/twg/ - Total War General

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>>163108789
Rollan!

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Second for Musicians and Banners FUCKING WHEN

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>>163108225
Muh boy Harn killed that chaos traitor knight on that screenshot. Later died trying to fight off three vampire doomstacks, two empire doomstacks and a dwarf stack. Manly tears were shed that day.

>>163108789
Old thread because OP is a fag >>163067716

>>163108950
>tfw I always roll a faction that I don't own

>>163109014
hopefully in the next installment

>>163108950
better not get beastmen

>>163109014
£20 DLC for all units ever, then £15 for the musicians to make actual noise, but it's only one note different for each

>>163109131
even worse

>>163109189
CA/SEGA might be semitic but you're confusing them with the utlra Jews at Paradox

>>163108950
Which DLC should I buy first besides blood

So do hills no longer give more range to your ranged units?

>>163109261
This, at least they haven't started monetizing user created content yet.

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>>163108789
Who's your favourite total war waifu? Can be from any games in the series.

They should have used the outpost system of the wood elves for all factions, so instead outright being unable to conquer somewhere, you'd be able to build a small outpost that can give a small factionwide buff

>>163109261
Yep their DLC schpeal is why I abandoned eu4, and CK2.
>oh you wanna go on crusade and establish kingdoms that'll be £15
>oh you wanna recruit some Templars to help your crusader kingdom £15
>another £15 if you wanna expel the Jews, btw they have the exact same coding for their religion as Muslims and you still bought it well done
>oh you want your monarch to abdicate, royal marriages to actually matter, see a family tree, ah we'll give you two of those features for £15 wouldn't want to spoil you now would we
Seriously I know it was harder to do Habsburg succession post 1444 but the Hanoverians did it in bloody 1830

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>>163109014
>historic total war games have bannermen and commanders
>fantasy doesn't
LMAO, the skeletons excuse is pathetic because only empire needs them and they can just use any of the human skeletons for that role

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>mfw it's stabby time

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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

>>163109321
The King and the Warlord and the Grim and the Grave are both good, but if they are worth the asking price is debatable, same for the Wood Elves.
Chaos and Beastmen are garbage and you should only get them on a sale.

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The time of men is over,
the time of Poo Poo Pee Pee has come!

>>163109864
MOTHERFUCKING 4 DAYS CANT COME SOON ENOUGH
IT BETTER FUCKING BE ON SALE PR I WILL DIRVE UP THE M4 KIDNAP ROUNTREE AND IMPALE HIM ON TOWER BRIDGE MYSELF

>>163109353
Nope welcome to modern TW

>>163109742
WE

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What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

>>163109729
>Rome 1 had commanders and so on
>Medieval 2 doesn't

Vanilla pisses me off a lot sometimes.

>>163110005
Do it London would be worth visiting then.

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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

Steam tanks on fire on the fields of Kislev.
I've seen rockets, streaking in the dark near a chaos gate.

All these moments will be lost, in time, like tears in the rain.

Time to die.

>>163109729

>Empire Total War
>Officers take out their flintlock and fire it when the enemy gets close.

It always looked cool to me.

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>>163110120
Kek

>>163109321
King and warlord
Grim and grave

Both are really good and change how each faction plays.

>>163110117
Med2 does have commanders though.

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>>163109795
Right up the bum!

>>163110046
T. Indy neidel

>>163110474
I meant captains for each unit.

>>163110509
kek'd

>>163110509
That phrase of his at the end of each episode got stale very quickly, I wish he would finally stop it.

>>163110302
how does grim and grave change how vc plays?

i had a few fun campaigns with vc, maybe i'll give it another go if the dlc shakes things up

>>163109498
Im wanna watch Glady and vampire chan cuddle!!!

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>>163109498
Vampire-chan, now and forever.

>>163110831
Corpse carts effectively act as necromancers on the field.
Mortis Engines continuously deal damage in an area, allowing you tu pull down the enemy over time while keeping your dudes in alive with magic.
Ghoulking is a really fun general.

>>163110831

You get some new low, mid and high tier magic chariot units that are worth keeping close to melee and protecting.

>>163110046
attila is better than any older tw game, especially med2 which is really broken

>>163110831
You get all those great RoRs and the Mortis Engine

Also V L A D

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>green is bes-

>>163111183

Vlad was free, not part of G&G

>>163111304
annnnnd thats why Skaven and Orks dont rule the world.

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I should do ambush battles more often. I'm learning to love 'em.

>played over a dozen multiplayer battles as durthu
>he hasn't fallen once

i'm in love

>>163110831
Regiments of renown

Corpse cart and Mortis engine allow you to field massive amounts of cheap infantry that both buffs and heals skeletons and zombies to make them cost effective, also mortis engine can whittle the enemy away faster than they can kill hour horde.

I think I figured it out.
Warhammer is Shogun 1: Total War 2.

>>163111304
>A comatose snotling

At some point I want a snotling/gretchin/grot unit just for the novelty of fielding like a few thousand of them against real troops.

>>163111051
why do people call her sexy? she's uggly ya know. rotten vag, manly face, sily hair, saggy boobs (held in place by armor tho), wrinkling skin, silly fashion, UGGLY ASS MAKEUP and stupid lips.
explain your attraction anon.

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>>163109498
Gladey; not even close

>>163111136
I like Attila but that's false.

>>163111987
glade lady isn't flat though

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>>163109498

Pic related obviously

Every waifu after her has been utter shit

SHIT

I need a quick MP army comp

>>163111136
Med2 had the best campaign Mechanics

>>163112107
Attila had the best Battle Mechanics

This vampire vs empire battle in the tournament was pretty neat

>>163112146
what army?

>>163112146
mass zombie + necromancer

>>163111136
Attila would have been perfect if cav didn't flatten everything on impact.

Also the fucking lighting making everything dark and grim, but that's just one man's personal taste.

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C R E A K I N G N O I S E S

God fucking dammit.
Nothing was more infuriating than watching my crossbowmen do 270 degree circle and not fire at the god damn mother fucking cavalry circling them.
Holy fucking shit. FIRE YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES!
You know what? I'm glad you're going to die. You deserve it.

>>163112197
I prefer warhams in battle mechanics. I don't totally see the med 2 best campaign mechanics though. Please explain.

>>163112123
Mlady Advisor from Empire was superior though.

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first time trying multiplayer
was there some 1v1 matchmaking or some shit somewhere?

>>163112197
Still false on both accounts

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>>163112415

>>163112117
Once you factor in the armour and underlying padding?
Yeah she is.

>>163112443
I hope this isn't going to do 2v2 because I wanted to meme with >>163112246...

>>163112559
just because you want an elf loli in game doesn't mean she is one anon

>>163112385

she was pretty good

Is there any scenario where you want to build orc or gobbo archer units?

Even against savage orcs with zero armor they don't do anything.

>>163112673
Gobbo archers are really good as Azhag.

>>163112308
>people are unironically mad that they don't look like naked women

>>163112673
>Is there any scenario where you want to build orc or gobbo archer units?
Fighting against chaos.
You want 2-3 archers to het rid of their marauder cav.
Also flyers.

>>163112856
I'm content with the spellsingers senpai

does anyone fancy an online game?

>>163112619
>Not knowing the difference between loli and pettanko
Get a load of this ingnoramus.

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When is Old Friend happening again?

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>>163113203
On the day.

>>163112382
med2 had the best map in a strategical sense, not overdesigned like rome2 or warhams, but not as bleak as rome.

It's also very adaptable unlike Shogun or Attila, building farms and
mines actually showed on the map, it's very modable and has enabled many great mods aswell.

Imagine the Third age Map with the Attila Mod Battle mechanics and models, would literally be the 10/10 Total War game

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>>163112856

Close enough

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And so Marii legions has the first testing against some petty rebels.
anyway to change culture of province in rome 1 as you can't knockdown the governor's house even if it's greek

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>Gobbo Archers

>>163113551
I thought you meant like crusades and pope stuff and so on, but I get you.

Shogun 2 farms and mines showed up on the map. Mines and resources shows up as well in Warhams.

>>163113551
Medieval 1 was better in terms of both campaign and battle mechanics.

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>>163112856
We got compensated

>>163114000
warhams mines and farms are
part of the base map though, while Med2 mad had progression depending on how far advanced your buildings were.

not sure about Shogun2, haven't played it in a while.

>>163114148
>medieval 1

when does this fucking meme die?

Medieval 1 is inferior to Rome 1 in every single way.

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>Playing dwarfs
By turn 10 notice all the welves have confederated
>By turn 30 most of Bretonnia and its factions are extinct
>By tun 50, Tilea, estalia, and the western border princes are also eliminated
>Turn 60, they're waging war against the eastern border princes

>>163114172
Well mines in med 2 are part of the base map too though with the resources. Mines(resources) gets buildings or structures around them when you build the resource building.

>>163114307
When it stops being true. The only thing Rome has over Medieval is siege equipment and putting troops on walls which comes at the cost of having the worst AI in the series.

>>163114410
christ yes but that's part of the progression.

Warhams just has mines sitting on the map regardless if you built them or not.

>>163114516
>Warhams just has mines sitting on the map regardless if you built them or not.

Pretty sure they get structures around them when you build the resource building as I said.

>>163114457
not hard to code a pixel with 4 options.

>>163114656
not hard to shitpost when you have no idea what you're talking about

what's the empire equivalent of Wildwood Rangers?

>>163114778

Greatswords.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>163114843

>he doesn't know

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>>163114819
What are Wardancers for then?

>>163114752
I don't think anyone even considered Med1 worth considering until you Nostalgicians brought it up.

It's not the best in the series, no matter how much you want it to be.

>>163114965
halberds

>>163114965
fagellants

>>163114965

for dancing?

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>beat back the unwashed rugian scum
>suddenly, my income turned to shit
>check the left-overs of my army
>mercenary onager, apparently captured in battle
>4 hunks of wood need 1k upkeep
>one fucking thousand
Wow fuck off. Even in defeat Rugians are ruining my life.

>>163112197
>Med2 had the best campaign Mechanics
Attila's better family tree, actual migrators that have proper hordes and not just stacks without cities, inner politic and governor system, and even the minor things like integrity make its campaign mechanics better for me, hell in med2 you can't even pick an heir

>>163112264
>Attila would have been perfect if cav didn't flatten everything on impact.
considering that cavalry in med2 is even more insanely strong, this is not an argument

>>163114984
I doubt you were even born when it came out because the only arguments you can bring up against it are "MUH PIXELS" and "SNES GRAPHICS". It's not an unpopular opinion amongst people who have played it in places such as the Org.

>>163115124
Too bad Attila has the worst time period of all the games

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>>163115062
Why would you give up Eternal Shields for Wardancers?

>>163109627
The problem there is that the Welfs specifically have only a tiny area of actual settlement

humans being able to conquer all the human lands as well as outposting everything would be OP, the outposts are there because elfs don't have anything else to conquer otherwise

>>163115215
this is a terrible meme, late antiquity is a great time period, especially for a total war game

Do I go ranged or melee with my glade lords? Forest Dragon mount seems like it would be better if you go with the melee tree.

>>163109729
>>163109014
It don't even need new skeleton/animations: Just rig the banner models into the left hand.
Use the normal sword/axe+shield animation, which would look great, as they fight with banner in one hand, and sword in the other.

>>163114965
Being fast as fuck.

>>163115289
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE LORICA SEGMENTATA, KNIGHTS IN PLATE ARMOR OR SAMURAI REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>163115270

Eternal Guard are supposed to hold units for your other dudes to kill.

Wardancers will kill what you put them against on their own.

>>163115082
Mercenary onagers used to be quite broken, but at the same time are absolutely necessary for a lot of early game situations. Giving them enormous upkeep was the only way to balance it.

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>>163115524
>Wardancers will kill what you put them against on their own.
But that's what Wildwood Rangers are for.

Greatswords kill stuff

Halberd kill stuff


What are halberds for?

>>163115124
>considering that cavalry in med2 is even more insanely strong, this is not an argument
Yes it is.
The fact that it was present in Med2 doesn't mean it's not a problem with Attila.

>>163115535
>absolutely necessary for a lot of early game situations
Like what? I can only think of instant walled city siege.

>>163115856

>Greatswords

Anti-armour

>Halberds

Anti-Large/Anti-charge

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>>163115783
Eteranl guard is your early-game mainline unit (get raped by chosen).
Wardancers with spears are your all-purpose fast halbeards, that can fight well against other infantry (but they get raped by chosen).
Wildwood Rangers are your mid/lategame mainline infantry, that can fight well against other high-tier infantry, and can do a little bit of anti-large duty (but they still get raped by chosen).

Moral of the story- use chosen, get mad pussy.

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G O B L I N S

>>163113957
yes we know, i just did a Azhag coop campaign on very hard, got my ass kicked because i forgot that if you recruit on the boarder on the first turn they will intercept you. so 2 turns later i lost because i had shitty army and gobboes.
"git gud anon" i blame the gobboes

>>163114965
killing everything, i think they even beat greatswords. feminists would be proud

>>163115783
yeah but they suck ass.

>>163116138
is there a unit that beat chosen?

>>163115783

They don't win against the same things. While both are anti-large, wardancers with spears are better at killing large creatures. Rangers have a very fast charge animation and anti-armor, which allows them to win out against most other elite infantry.

Basically, wildwood rangers are the more expensive and more effective version of regular wardancers. spear wardancers are the murdery variety of eternal guard.

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>>163116375
>is there a unit that beat chosen?
No, it's the strongest infantry in the game. Chosen halbeards beat any monster or monster-hero that is out there. Chosen with Greatweapons will kill any hero that isn't large.

>>163116375
>is there a unit that beat chosen?
Great Weapon Chosen

does the ai recruitment mod work if its activated during a game? tired of these 15 chariot chaos armies

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>>163116549
>>163116532
>>163116375
Are chosen the Spiral users of the warhammer world? Why do they even need chaos gods, they could probably destroy Warp by themselves.
>remember that they actually do after the End Times
How do we stop these madmen?

>>163116564
yes, but it won't affect arlready existing stacks.

>>163116959
>Why do they even need chaos gods,
Gee, I dunno, maybe their power comes from being the chosen of the gods

>>163116532
damn shame there just isn't enough variety for chosen since thats their whole background. Hopefully the second expansion will add some divided champions.

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>>163117064
Their power comes from their mad gains, brah

>>163114984
It is the best in the series though and Rome 1 is a straight downgrade mechanically. Medieval had great balance, great battle speed unlike the full retard arcade battles of RTW, competent AI on both the campaign and battle map, impassable terrain so you don't fight sideways on volcanos, and a boatload of features that were removed (then sometimes advertised as new in later games) such as dismounting cavalry before battle, named individual officers with stats and traits that can be landed titles and made general, three way battles, the option to betray an ally in the middle of a battle, and civil war mechanics related to all these officers that let you pick which side you want to play as. The game still holds up to this day and is only overshadowed by its sequel because of shiny 3D graphics and fantasy mods. Even with dozens of scripts giving the AI money and armies every turn they still manage to sabotage themselves in Rome all the time.

>>163116532
>>163116549
thanks good to know. i did not know they were that strong

>>163116959
>after the End Times
>remember
i can't remember. wot did they do?

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ROHIRRIM CHARGE!!!!!!!!

Why in the fucking nigger are my crossbowmen not firing at mother fucking will if there is a battle line in front of them? They're not engaged in melee yet. Do they just not fire over your god damn troops?

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So when did you realize that Rome and Medieval 2 aren't actually good games in retrospect and that Shogun 2, Attila and Warhammer are vastly superior?

>>163117693
Forth eorlingas

You fucking pleb

>>163117693
Pretty chivalrous my knigga

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>>163117693
Imagining this but with Grail Relique.

>>163117745

If the enemy is the same size as your front line, they wont. They'll freely shoot on cav/monstrous infantry, but not on two things fighting that are the same size. You can work around this by placing them on elevated grounds so they shoot down, or have the enemy on higher ground than your front line. Or just the good old box formation.

>>163111983
just to add on that, her """""""lipstick""""""" looks like Hitler's moustache

>>163117745
All ranged troops stick to the first target they see when on auto-fire which means that if the first target in range is a melee unit it will eventually not be visible enough to "lob" the bolts over your own troops when they clash with your own melee. You have to manually change targets to keep them effective

>>163117064
>>163117207
They've been working out for centuries in the chaos wastes which works out as a few hours in the Old World. The wastes are in perpetual war and daemons frequently come out and attack so your average warrior has a few decades of warfare over the most veteran Empire troops.

>>163117745
Yep, they won't fire because of high risk of friendly fire. But for some reason this never stops my fucking second line melee troops from unloading their javelins into the backs of my frontline troops and wiping out half of them in the process.

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>>163117693

>no Bretonnia DLC to flesh them out and make them playable

suffering

>>163117641
>wot did they do?
Archaon decided to get his gang of Varanguard and Chosen back together and they told Chaos Gods to fuck off, conquering their own place in the war and living free from CG's control.

>>163117242
easy to add in depth when your game is two lines of code away from a pen and paper game.

>>163115215
But I like late antiquity and early middle ages. Attila and Age of Charlemagne would be perfect for me if they were actually optimized.

>>163117813
Well, medieval 2 is the only of those two I have looked back at and thought "what a mess"(probably because I have played medieval 2 the most). The biggest "awakener" was the general responsiveness of the newer games.

All in all, I find most TW games pretty fun.

>>163115289
>>163118108
No it's a terrible timeperiod because most of the map is held by massive empires at the start of the game. Which essentially means you either play a filthy barbar or you play the good and interesting factions but end up bored because it's so easy when you start that well off.

The setting itself isn't bad, it's what it does to the campaign map.

>>163117917
Stop posting fan concept art.

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>>163117693
For the Lady

>>163118032

You do know we're getting that in February right? For free even.

>>163118281
My ancestors are barbars, so I'm fine with that.

>>163118075
>told chaos gods to fuck off
so where are khorne now? ded? or did he run away?

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>>163118327
>Bjarke Bjerke

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>tfw this is literally uncounterable

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>>163118327
>bjarke bjerke

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>>163118327
>Bjarke Bjerke

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>>163118327
>Bjarke Bjerke

>>163118457
This.

The wealth of germanic tribes in Attila is great and some of them play really different from the run of the mill barbarians.

What does CA need to add to Bretonnia in their update next year?

>>163116138
Early game just spam glade guard and micro until you're sick of the game

>>163118640

Grail handgunners (Lore of Gun)

>>163118640

Some unique mechanic.
Some units that weren't in the TT to spice up the faction.
Legendary heroes

>>163115332
ranged, your lord can't stand up in a straight fight against other lords

>>163118519
This makes no sense

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>>163118327
>Bjarke Bjerke
>>163118480
Slaanesh is rip in peperonis, the other 3 just sit in their corners of the warp, doing the same shit they did before, it's just now a good chunk of their followers is serving Archaon and his gang of Chosen. They also serve Archaon in a way.

>>163110715
Well he lives in Sweden so he's taken on the whole cuckery and doesn't realise war was seen as honourable as it was people giving their lives to the state
>>163111136
Atilla is the best base game to mod I'll give you that. But still everyone having greekfire in the current year was quite annoying. Also Varangian guard not being special mercs was quite sucky
>>163111448
Yes but he accompanied it and the OP hasn't played since then
>>163111541
Fighting rebel armies in Rome 1 is fun as you just keep on fighting on new maps, yesterday was a downside hill, today was a forest where we kept on maneuvring until my cav left the forest and found them literally right in front

>>163118640
The Lady's Path: To avoid difficult terrain.
The Quest: So that you can get a stack of questing knights to help you when you show your honor and chivalry.
Peasant Oppression (Corruption mechanic): To combat public order problems from serfs who think they have rights.

>>163117949
>>163117973
Thank you very much. Now I won't be so angry.
>>163118004
This much I understand. I remember first playing Rome 1 and I didn't know about alt-clicking so I hated the romans because if I targeted 1 unit with 2 of mine, they would cluster up and wipe out the edges of eachother when throwing their pila.
I wish they would aim up in the air and try and shoot over like in M2, but I get it. I'm just as likely, if not moreso, to hit my own troops in the back.

>>163118640
The option to dismount your knights for sieges.

Maybe seperate models for Yeowmen.

>>163118640
Grail Pilgrims

>>163118915
>Not the Grailway

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>>163118327
>Bjarke bjerke

>>163118313
it's official...

>>163118519
Which way's forward? I'll assume the pikes are on the right flank so this at least makes some sense

>run cavalry around left flank
>kill archers and slam into back of infantry
>left flank lost
>center breaks shortly after

Literally would only work if you massively outnumber the enemy and would win the battle anyway. No mobility at all to stop envelopment at all

>>163118640

special peasant rebellions funded by the empire and equipped with smuggled handguns.

>>163118519
I rip and tear it up with archers?
Then you charge like an idiot and now I didn't even need to try and flank you because my line is longer?

>>163118915

You forgot the holy book of vows

Every time someone does something dishonourable to your faction, it's written in the book, and the longer it sits there you get more negative stuff like decreased happyness and diplomatic standing with other HonHon factions.

>>163111983
Really you're the autist for wanting her to be a 10/10 and not just some mildly attractive lady.
Honestly the sexual revolution was bad for everyone
>>163112146
3 necromancers 5 corpse kart and 8 zombies, keep on ressing until your enemy alt-f4's
>>163112338
Have you ever had a car almost hit you when you were crossing the street, times that by 100 and you'll see why they're scared

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>>163118327
>Bjarke Bjerke

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>>163111983
GONNA
MARRY
VAMPIRE
CHAN
!

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>>163118813
Have they revealed where the Welfs and Bretonnia went? Also Skaven are just on some random planet right?

>>163118897
>But still everyone having greekfire
EVERYONE BUT THE FUCKING WRE, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A TECH CALLED IMPROVED INCENDIARY WARFARE

>>163118327
>SPURDO SPADRE

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When will Chaos finally get chaos god lores of magic and god-specific units?
Chaos undivided is boring as fuck.

Day 209
Warhammer is still shit.

>>163119403
2018, maybe 22019.

>>163114457
>worst AI
no that's empire or Rome 2

>>163119403
most likely second expansion, but why would you want them over the base lores? i only remember nurgles lore being usefull in more than 1 situation.

>>163119190
Well, they haven't confirmed that yet.

>>163119471
>22019

Fuck me.

>>163113203
April

>>163119591

>You will never long enough to see chaos made fun.

Alright mates, I'm planning a huge Shogun II campaign. What are some good mods?

Already have:
>expanded japan
>double bonus for specialty buildings
>extended unique clan bonuses
>various graphical shit

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>>163119471
>22019
just imagine the technology and how realistic the graphics will be

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>163119359
Welves tried to run to another world, got intercepted by Chosen. Rip.
Bretonians got taken by Sigmar to his realms in the warp. Yeah, I know it sounds retarded, but brets are doing fine.

>>163119403
Second expansion

>>163119672
At least I will be able to feel Daemonettes fellate me using my video game incubation chamber.

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>>163113957
I like this meme

>>163119471

>Year 22019
>"Games Workshop" would like to announce a new product
>Warhammer Fantasy Resurrected

>>163119471
>22019
>you have to wait for the Dark Age of Technology to see Chaos made fun to play

>>163115215
>worst time period of all the games
DESU Rome republic is the worst, as you have gaul and Germanic tech, MUH horse archers the sythians, MUH phalanaxs the Alexandrian states, MUH elephants and not! Machete carthagians and Romans are just a mix. Whereas late antiquity you have the greatest technology for a thousand years against the greatest tactics for a thousand years. IF CA had been bothered then the Germanics, nordics and goths could have had far more varied tech. Also the British Gauls should have been much the same as the conquered ones but Roman arms where they had the supplies. Honestly why do released Roman factions use the exact same tech and not the native stuff they would have mainly

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>>163119471
>>163119591
>>163119672
>>163119930

>have to wait until Dark Age of Technology

woo lad

>>163116959
Chosen are one of the best units on the tabletop so should actually be far better but you got >but MUH balance MP fags ruining it because they won't accept a simple price change

>>163120052
I agree that Attila should have had more love and could have been extremely interesting, but you're wrong about the Republican period. It's probably the most diverse time period combat wise and no two culture groups fight the same

>>163117242
>betray ally in battle
You could just retreat you know
Atilla had civil wars so I don't see anything unique here

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Gentleman,

How do we make the Greenskins interesting and fun again?

>>163119930
>implying Britain won't be a bunch of sunken islands by 22019
>implying there will be any Earth at all by 22019
>implying there would be Imperial Guardsmen willing to play Total Warhammer instead of fighting for their Emperor

What factions can vampires take over, can they take elves

>>163120469
Hero-level bosses and Lord-level shaman.

Give all Orc infantry more weapon options.

>>163120469
Literally impossible.

>>163120543
So? Games Workshop will be owned by Disney then.

>>163120469
no pigeon-holing factions into a short/long campaign victory where it's ideal to first conquer all of the southeast before meeting with humans
the issue is that it's endless dwarf/orc battles
so basically
GIVE US AZHAG THE SLAUGHTERER IN DA NORF

>>163120469
I never played them dont they have a lot of units.

>>163117813
Rome 1 definetly hasn't aged well in terms of responsiveness, historical accuracy, but it's kept me longer in a campaign than FotS did. and soon atilla, I quit because you can only beat the Sassanids by razing their territory and moving on, but after the war he got money back faster than me

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>>163118327

>>163117813
Rome 1 definetly hasn't aged well in terms of responsiveness, historical accuracy, but it's kept me longer in a campaign than FotS did. and soon atilla, I quit because you can only beat the Sassanids by razing their territory and moving on, but after the war he got money back faster than me
Also having to have a dedicated general is quite shitty and I prefer the scouting captain being promoted to full general more, especially when the AI has unlimited gold to hire another general so repeated assainations don't work

>>163118281
>so easy when you start that well off.
How many tries did it take you to beat the WRE legendary campaign >>163118313
But it's for festag anon?

>>163120303
To be fair, cheaper CGW would break the multiplayer harder than Nurgle breaking Isha.

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>>163120469
Make high number/swamping tactics viable. Also instead of having weapon variations be different troops, how about making like TT and buy the unit but have a menu to buy new gear.

You guys gave me the impression the elves in this game were gay, but they are pretty fucking hardcore. Fuck you guys.

>>163119471
Someone FUCKING screencap this

>>163121386

>He fell for the maymays and shitposting

No one to blame but yourself you stupid idiot

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>>163121386
Not as hardcore as Chosen. But nothing is as hardcore as chosen.

>>163121439
>dude epic typo lmao

>>163121439

No?

>>163120456
probably because you're retarded

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>>163119236
>implying Vampire-chan isn't a 10/10

>>163121470
>LOVE Chaos units and aesthetics
>concept of bringer of the end times makes for great roleplaying
>horde campaign is fucking retarded and boring as shit

What do anons?

>>163121659
she could use some work with her makeup

Gentlemen, why do Chaos Rifts not spread chaos corruption?

>>163120351
MUH skirmishers skirmish then my light infantry clash then MUH medium infantry clash then MUH heavy infantry show the boyz how da fight, then MUH cavalry get back from their skirmish with the other cavalry and hit you in the flanks routing you
Whadda I miss
Hannibal using elephants as shock cav is still cav

>>163121682
Get a mod that lets you settle as Chaos.

>>163121714
By that logic, every faction in every game fights exactly the same

>>163121838
But how can I be sure that it's balanced!?

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>>163121697
Vampires and mirrors have a tenuous relationship, stop bullying Vampire-chan!

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>>163121197
an addendum:

let the Black Orcs be as flexible as they are, not just can openers but low tier shredders and line holders as well depending on how you want to use them

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>>163121682

Wait for the true Warriors of Chaos to get modded in

>>163120469
Make them speak more cockney when selected
>>163121034
>breaking isha
How rude nurgle always ask for consent before touching her hair
>>163121386
Brettonia peasants do stumble out the forest with prolapsed rectums so your guess is as good as mine

>>163122024
KURGAN AND HUNG WHEN
CATHAY WHEN

>>163119669
Master of Strategy is a god-tier overhaul

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>>163121682
Get swole, become one of the Chosen

>>163121579
>Ad hominems instead of debate topics
Wow really winning me over there
>>163121702
Because they released an incomplete game because they were already accused of selling it with day 1 dlc

>>163121948
I want to KISS

>>163122025
Man, how shitty must it be to live in Brettonia as anything but a knight? Elves and weird fucking tree spirits raping your shit, a god damn senile giant tree with a red sword?, this lady of the lake bullshit, a feudal government. God damn. Being a human just all around sucks dick in this setting.

>>163121915
>Balance in TW
>With a faction that gets focussed by every other fucking faction in the game, with armies crossing the whole map just to fuck your shit Milan-Style
>While AI Wood elves have 4 armies by turn 25 and steamroll the whole fucking map

Just get the mod and enjoy a campaign with it.

>>163118085
what did he meme by this

>>163122173
>debating with someone that can't read
why bother

>>163120469
The only compelling factions in vanilla are Empire and VC, hopefully Bretonnia will be half decent though. Dark and High elves and Lizardmen might end up having shitty campaigns too.

>>163121960
Look at all that fucking taft for one unit.

No wonder WHFB got shelved.

>>163122285
Not if you're the Chosen.

>>163118640
Praying before battle. Giving opponent's better deployment options in order to gain bonuses. Or maybe you cannot move for a certain amount of time once the battle begins and, if you do, you don't gain the lady's favor.

>>163122089
I'd like them to be in, but it's impossible.

Apart of the fact that they have Terracotta Automatons, nothing we know about Cathay.

At this point we'll get a Kislev DLC first and then Araby with Empire skin for Tomb Kings.

Which is a big pity sadly.

And GW never bothered to expand on Cathay and other human nations further.

But if they send in some of their dudes to CA to help them out with the rest of the Warhammer world...

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woah! what a deal!

>>163122025
>nurgle always ask for consent before touching her hair
>implying he doesn't rape her 24/7 so hard that she has started to like it

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>>163121386
>>163121465
High elves can get pretty lame for reasons, they've had giant periods where they just fucked off back to Ulthuan with their tails between their legs after bad enough ass beatings, wood elves are always pretty neat though.

>>163122586
I wonder who is behind this...

>>163122285
if you are in the GOOD empire provinces is not that bad, same with the southern realms (except the Border Princes)

And Norsca, if you are into Chaos and are strong enough

>>163122586
thats over 44G/faction, I'd hop on that train to Bargaintown

>>163122597
Slaneeshfag please go

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>>163121386
glad you've seen the light

>>163123008
>cropped the part where the elf gets stomped
Elf-fags, everybody

>>163108950

roll

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>>163123123
inb4 some faggot thinks its a wood elf again

>>163122285
I said it in a previous thread and laid out some points, but even being a peasant in ye olde Sylvania was a MUCH better life than being a Bret peasant at virtually any time in their history. As long as your local lord or governor what the hell ever was a decent Carstein with their sanity, you were pretty fine.

>Your local guardsmen aren't as talkative and smell/look bad, but they'll leap to your defense without a second thought for personal safety or compensation
>The taxes are a shit ton lower, admittedly with the caveat that your local big bossman can and will order blood drives now and again, that or will leave it on people to pick out some troublemakers to attend a "party"
>You had a worry of some freaky shit being around, but at least you weren't under literal constant threat of elves coming and sperging the fuck out on you, while the beastmen come afterwards to fuck up whatever's left the wutelgi didn't
>You get benefits of living in a setting pretty largely Empire-ish but without the additional worry of a witch hunter hanging your ass or declaring work tools heretical

I could probably keep going but hot damn, suicide would be preferable to life in Bretonnia as anything lower than nobility.

>>163119661
I had fun with chaos.

>>163123304
it's not a wood elf?

>>163123123
I didn't crop it, i'm just shit at making webms and it took too long to add all of it together

>>163123514
it's definitely an elf; a human doesn't have the COURAGE to kill that many Chaos in such short order

>>163123514
its a shadow warrior

>>163123638
nice reading comprehension family

>>163123304
I mean it looks pretty welf-y, they've got the little celt scrawling on them, dressed pretty waywatcher-like, only standout is that's a pretty fancy lookin sword for one of them but otherwise eh.

>King Horik seems to have disapproved of these raids, for successful raiders constituted possible rivals. Occasionally, Horik even punished raiders. In 836, Horik sent an embassy to King Louis declaring that he had nothing to do with the raids on Frisia, and that he had executed those responsible.

>In 854, King Horik I was killed by a nephew whom he had driven into exile. While in exile, the nephew had become a successful raider.

>>163123913
https://youtu.be/KxTaQmhztVQ?t=57

they look exactly the same

>>163123340
>Wutelgi

I like you friend.
You played/liking Karak Azgaraz?

>>163123913
there are no wood elves in that game

Idiot trying out the Third Age mod for MTW 2, and I'm trying to decide between MOS and DaC - the pastebin doesn't say much about MOS (aside from it having some shitty scripts), so I was hoping someone more knowledgeable than I could point me towards the better one.

>>163122285
Go over to the empire then peasant.
>Get born with a weird deformity and be classed as a chaos mutant
>Have to be hidden from society your whole life so you aren't killed by literal retards
>Family constantly hounded by Empire witch hunters that get paid for rooting out chaos
>Family flees to the Norscan wastes to try and survive on thier own and hide you
>One night a tribe of wildmen come and rape and kill you ALL in that order, before sacrificing the strongest to Khorne and eating the rest

Even a life as a Greenskin would be better

Where is the time commanders with mat easton and lindy beige?

>>163124153
neither there are high elves in the forests of the Empire (there's SOME wood elves)

would not be surprised if they were cut early, but left them in the trailer because they completely nailed it

>>163122285
>Being a human just all around sucks dick in this setting.

welcome to warhammer

unlike most other settings where humans are the best.

>>163124547
>neither there are high elves in the forests of the Empire
I can tell you didn't play the game because there literally are in the campaign

>morghur's ability to give all units in his army primal fury doesn't work at all

and of course when I go to make a thread about it on their bug reporting forums that they supposedly read, they don't recognize my email/pw, and their support system doesn't even send my email the verification code. Fucking useless British

>>163124576
Considering the Empire survived two thousand years of constant fuckery from undead, chaos barbs and orcs and is still going strong (until End Times, anyway), I'd say Warhammer still counts as a setting where "humans are the best". Otherwise they'd be dead already.

>>163124442
Does Brettonia really accept mutants?

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DLC before next expansion

>Skaven
>Chaos god lords and half-factions
>complete brettonia
>playable northerners

First expansion
>high elves
>dark elves
>lizardmen
>amazon DLC

Second expansion
>tomb kings
>arab factions
>big Orc & gobbos upgrade (most of their lands aren't even in the game yet)
>chaos dorfs
>ogre kingdoms
>nippon DLC

thoughts?

>>163124627
I did, had to drop it because of fucking Windows 10

They are only there temporarly because of the recent Chaos invasion in the game and to stop the rising of Thorgar

>forests of the Empire
High elves are not the ones that go practise stealth archery in the woods alone

>>163124951
>amazon DLC
hahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>163124951
I really doubt any of those things for before first expansion, aside from Bretonnia.

>>163124951
Why would we get Nippon? Fucking nothing is happening there

>>163125051
you don't want half naked stronk thicc wymyn?

Gentlemen, how do we improve Greenskins so that they aren't easily demolished by the Dawi?

>>163124951
first expansion will be:
>tomb kangs
>chaos lords/half factions
>ogres
>chaos dwarfs
>more orcs and gobbos

Second expansion:
>high elves
>skaven
>dark elves
>lizardmen

add various dlc where appropriate

>>163124863
Eh, humanity sure as shit endures in Warhammer and has had periods of alright life in places, but it's definitely not "Humanity is the predominant force and super awesome" of a lot of other fantasy.

>>163124863
Didn't say the humans aren't effective.

They're just not the best society, the best at well anything really.

Humans get by and they survive. and they'll fuck shit up but they aren't the destined plucky newcomers that many other settings have. or the bastion of all that is good and a society that other races should strive for...

In warhammer humans are jacks of all trades, master of none. And in order to deal with all the masters they have very pragmatic views.

>>163125106
maybe they sent a colony to the new world

>>163125037
it's not a normal high faggot it's a shadow warrior nigger

>>163125106
because CA

>>163125213
>but it's definitely not "Humanity is the predominant force and super awesome" of a lot of other fantasy.


Well no.

>>163124931
Their peasants are so close to being mutants it doesn't really matter unless you get goat legs and horns

>>163125106
Neither do the wood elves do anything relevant outside the forest, and they are the prime expansionist force in the game
They can figure any bullshit to bring Nippon in the game, if they want

>>163120469
The Greenskins are my favorite desu

>>163125196
>CHAOS DWARFS LOL
>chaos lords/half factions

ebin

>>163125431
>they are the prime expansionist force in the game
They'll be nerfed.

>>163124931
No, but I don't think they would class you as a mutant as quickly or forcefully as the Empire would. They take that stuff very seriously.

>>163125431
Nippon does not even have models, they are just a sentence in the lore.

>>163124931
No. but peasants are said to be really ugly and almost mutants anyways.

But even peasants would cower and most mutants mutations.

CA said there would be 16 factions (not counting sub-factions) in the game, right? I can only think of 15, and that includes Daemons of Chaos, Chaos Dwarfs, and Bretonnia. What is the 16th race?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HdOHrc3OQ
Which warhammer faction is best if I want to live out my bleeding heart socialist fantasies?

All this talk of wanting weird, far off regions and people added is really gettin me close to playing some more Geheimnisnacht. Updated that shit recently since they're in the 1.0's of the mod now finally and it's neato if you wanna fuck around with the politics and stuff of Warhams.

>>163125287
fuck, forgot about those

my bad

>>163125785
Kislev[\spoiler]

>>163125792
Warriors of Chaos

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>here's a mod that does something you want
>oh but i also threw in this random tweak that nobody asked for and i could have easily made a separate mod for cause fuck you
why do modders do this?

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>>163124951

>no mention of naval battles anymore

>>163125785
1) Empire
2) Dwarf
3) Green Skins
4) Vampire counts
5) Warriors of Chaos
6) Daemons of Chaos
7) Beastmen
8) Woodelves
9) Dark Elves
10) High Elves
11) Tomb Kings
12) Skaven
13) Ogre Kingdoms
14) Lizard men
15) Chaos Dwarfs
16) Bretonnia

>>163123340
>tfw you'll never be a farmer's son being used by the local Vampire Baroness as she strings you along with lewd talk all the while using you as nothing more than a dignified blood pack.
Why live?

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What are your campaign map building tactics?
Build all recruitment buildings in the capital and then make everything else money cows?

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the game seems so much more cleaner than Warhammer

>>163125998
officially confirmed as axed

I'm sorry anon...

>>163108950
Roll

>>163126109

>tfw no raiding settlements in Warhammer like you can in Attila
>tfw no setting up barricades and chokepoints if you defend the settlement

feels bad man

>>163124931
No they get left in the forest, which is why brettonia had a bigger beastmen problem than anyone else

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What the hell is going on with this Ikko Ikki

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>>163126159
>officially confirmed as axed
What? Where? Why?

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>>163126227
can't even slaughter peasants with your chaos raiders in warham

>>163126509
they said they wouldn't be using the man o war ip which I guess is a vidya based on WH naval battles?