/twg/ - Total War General

>Oops, some Beastmen herds just spawned in your territory :)
>Oops, they spawned in Estalia, where you can't build any garrisons :)
>Oops, they went to war with you and are going to raze all of your territory :)
>Oops, you're losing money :)
>Oops, you got negative amber :)

My other campaigns did not prepare me for this, seeing as how Beastmen always seemed to spawn outside of territory I owned. Fucking hell.

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>>163067716
When?

Day 209
Warhammer is still shit.

>>163067802
well, the campaign blows dick in every total war

>>163067769
>elfs in charge of not getting mounted

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>163067881
Don't call Durthu an elf ever again, you piece of shit.

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>>163067873
>he's never played medieval

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>>163067769
Shoot them in the back

>>163068000
Why would I care what some angry firewood thinks?

>>163067802
Day 209
Poorfag who has never purchased the game still shitposts about it's quality.

Skarsnik > Grimgor

Mork > Gork

>>163068097
>it's quality
>calling anyone a poorfag with that public school education

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>>163068102
Gotrek > Gork & Mork

do any TW games or mods take into account the demographics aspect of war? That too much war would eventually exhaust your population and at a certain point you wouldn't be able to recruit more soldiers.

if anyone here remembers Seven Kingdoms II, that game's mechanics made it economically impossible to engage in more than maybe two wars over the course of a full game. the way it worked was that you recruited your soldiers from your cities and each soldier trained meant a peasant lost. and peasants were responsible for gathering food, serving as workers in mines and factories and getting you money from trade and to a lesser extent, taxes. and one city, linked to one or two facilites that require workers produced approximately enough food to supply one garrison (SK's equivalent to stacks, I guess) with a bit leftover.

past a certain number of conflicts, it would have been impossible to recover your losses AND support your economy. this meant that you had to do your best to stay out of war, until you could enter at the decisive time to win a game, or remove an enemy with few losses. or if you do get dragged into war, just defend your own territory without going on the offensive since that would lead to more casualties.

can something similar be found in any TW games?

>>163068262
Age of Charlemagne for Attila

>>163068003
is this an old screenshot? how did that situation turn out? if it's current, ur fucked m80

>>163068330
I beat them back to Georgia and Syria and they're currently overtaking Russia. I can't play on that resolution all the time because it's too small to read on my CRT

>>163068290
just googled it. are you talking about the war weariness thing? seems really simplified, like some arbitrary hit to public order. am i wrong?

>>163068417
That's it really. In RTW recruiting units takes a chunk out of your population and I'm pretty sure you can't recruit any more if it hits zero.

>>163068225
>being this new

>>163068397
how did you beat them back, you barely have any armies? or do you mean you just beat those two stacks in armenia and then they left you alone

>>163068262
define total war

So, spearmen without shields are useless or am I using them wrong?

One frontal charge with empire knights while they were fully braced killed 70% of them and the rest routed.

Are the ones with shields any better or should I just be using halberdiers?

>>163068262

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpscgdjDmM4

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>>163068482
I recruited a bunch of mercs. The Italians are attacking again though.

>>163068464
yeah, i do remember noticing that years ago but i was never sure if it had actually happened since it was so long ago and i never encountered it again. iirc one of the yugoslavian provinces had its pop drained by the AI player controlling it (somehow) before me and it had like 1000 people left and i couldn't recruit militia. but i have never seen any town's pop drop that low ever again, not even close

>tfw no good mods

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>Gobbo Archers

>>163068550
seems like it might be close to what i'm looking for. thanks!

Repostan

Just beat my very first succesful very hard campaign of FOTS. Hadn't picked up the game in over a year and I'd forgotten how annoying and frustrating some parts of it were

>your generals getting slaughtered by random foreign veterans
>if you want to counter them with your own agents, every agent action costs you a ridiculous sum of >1000 koku
>enemy clans are basically playing a different game that has no economic portion, since they can still throw three full stacks at you with two provinces left. ditto for murdering your generals and agents
>delusions of grandeur and upstart generals mechanics defacto make leveling up generals undesirable
>alternative is to savescum before every fight to avoid the "hurrr your general has -3 loyalty some of your max leveled troops have defected to the enemy you've been dominating for twenty turns and you now have to fight them :^)"
>ai makes garbage stacks that avoid your armies and prefer to take a random settlement three provinces deep in your territory than defend their own lands
>retreat mechanic means they get an extra move over your own army so they're a bitch to catch
>the fucking bug where your troops WILL NOT AUTOFIRE so they're stuck just standing there while the enemy units close the distance/slaughter them

fucking christ, and i still love the game. total war games are lightning in a bottle

>>163068710
dang that army is random. did you auto-resolve or did you actually fight the battle with these troops?

also show us your king's army. and aren't you afraid of leaving constantinople so exposed?

>>163067769
The trick with wood elves is to not care about any territory other than athel loren.

Don't care about keeping territory.

Rather just keep pressing forward.

It doesn't matter if your enemies burn 2 settlements to the ground.

As long as you take 3.

>>163068464
There should make a mix with this the recruiting system of rome I and medival II.
levie units cost populaition while noble units have a recruiting pool

>>163068097
>le epic poorfag meme
when will you faggots realize that not everyone that has a problem with warhammer didn't buy the game?

>>163069098
I fought all the battles but Mongols are annoying and have lots of heavy cavalry, horse archers, and heavy infantry with bows and shields. I'm not worried about leaving Constantinople exposed because the castle itself has 3 levels and because of my ship network, I can move troops from anywhere around my empire (that has a port) to Greece. I I'll be moving some of my garrisons around to try to attack the Italians before they besiege my castle since when you first attack a province, you only take the province itself and need to take the castle if you want the income and buildings.

so do you think we'll ever be able to create units made-up of different unit types?

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>>163069578
forgot my pic

How do you deal with Wood Elves as

>VC
>Greenskins
>Skarsnik
>Beastmen

For some reason, it feels like these are the four factions i'm having the most trouble fighting them with, unless I catch them in the Underway or a Beast Path.

>>163069507

Maybe consider the comment wasn't directed at everyone who has a problem with warhammer, but rather one faggot in particular who shitposts a stale meme?

>>163069708
Gobbo archers and wolf riders with Skarsnik.

>>163069718
I've seen people cry "LMAO POORFAG" at anyone saying anything remotely negative about warhammer

>>163069507

>I've never played it, but I know it's shit and I hate it

sounds like there are some deeper issues here

>>163069809

>Day 209
>Warhammer is still shit.

Isn't exactly the kind of comment that invites much more refined social discourse.

>>163070031
good reading comprehension

>defending marienburg in siege battle
>towers aren't firing
Is this a bug? Happened to anyone else?

>>163069578
lol yeah, i know that stuff dude, you think i would even know my way around the interface if i hadn't played this game to death? if it had a way to put your archers on top of walls and ship combat it'd be my favorite total war game. one thing i do remember about the trade network was that it's really easy to disrupt. if the italians take down even one of your fleets it's all ogre. and i see all your fleets are one ship each, so you better watch that

>>163069342
They burned my only source of income. I went down to -1500 and went to -4 Amber. I think keeping Estalia is pretty important.

>>163070372
The plan was to build more ships before getting attacked feom both sides. If I can make peace with the Italians I plan on building a proper navy.

>>163070526
It really isn't because beastmen like to spawn there.

Like I said Don't think about keeping territory as long as your armies are constantly pushing forward.

Also never spend down to zero amber unless its in units that you can disband if you think you're going to lose ground.

>>163070629
Alternately, go for a full roleplay experience. For every major region you take, deploy a glade lord there and turn the place into a new glade hall.

>>163070629
this

but take the other port faction on the other peninsular, the main city gives you more garrison than usual

What the fuck are some good unit formations?
I keep getting my ass handed to me in open field battles in Attila

>>163070835
actually a glade lord for damage control with a half stack can do wonders.

but it does get expensive and even then you're not protecting each individual region but rather provinces or closely grouped provinces.

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>>163070859

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Help me /TWG/! I fucked up

Where do I go after I secure Altdorf? It feels fucked up slaughtering humans but that is pretty much all that are on my borders.

>>163071052

There are more than one unique outpost, Couronne should be another, they alla have factionwide bonus

>>163070982
Shielded heavy infantry in the centre, spears on the flanks, missiles behind the main line, cav on the far flanks. Hammer and anvil until you win everything

>>163071342
You go after the eternal Mannlet or the brettonians.

>>163071342
Bretonnians are not humans

>>163071342

Kill the elf worshipping brets!

>>163071570
Excuse me, but we don't worship elves, we worship a human goddess known as the Lady of the Lake!

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>mfw it's stabby time

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>>163071735
>

>>163071898
dem sum pretty pointy ears m8

Is the warrior priest any good or should I just use the witch hunter?

>>163071342
Marienburg is essential
Every other empire faction is optional, but I would recommend going after Wissenland if possible as it's the best infantry recruitment province.

>>163071984
The Warrior Priest has a pretty cool healing skill, dunno if the Witch Hunter has anything worthwhile.

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how did CA get away with releasing a game like rome1? I am talking about the arcani, the egyptians and other retarded elements, the TW fanbase is extremely autistic about historic accuracy to the point where they complain about sandals and roof types, how did they accept roman ninjas and those egyptians?

Ballsarethere Gelded or iKarly?

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>tfw you realize the LL powercreep is to prepare you for the OPness of Tyrion and Malekith

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Hmm...

>>163072178
can't wait for chaos daemons to fuck over everything in OPness :^)

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>>163072254
>bloodthirster as strong as in the fluff
MA 200
MD 80
WS 900
Ward save 90%

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>>163072348
sounds good tbqh

So should I build Franz as a fighter, or should I power up my troops?
It seems hard to pass up Honest Steel.

>>163072540
w-what about MP balance?

>>163072702
>MP balance?
pure cancer that kills the game

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>>163072348
Well Lord of Change is already in the game and he is a joke compared to lore

>among the most powerful casters in the world, can incernate people with his glare
>giant monster to boot, with inpenetrable energy shield

I don't even need to tell you about that sick lore of metal he has

>>163072678

Build him as a fighter, but drop the two points in red necessary to get your whole army charge defense.

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>>163071301

Here goes nothing

What battle wizards do you anons recommend?

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>>163073071

Army positioned to take out reinforcements approaching from the rear first

>>163073071
Snipe their leaders as much as you can and you're done.

With Durthu this may be easy.

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>>163073163

After taking them out we re position immediately to tackle the main force, but we've lost 1 of the hawk riders to carelessness

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fugg didn't think he'd actually do it i guess i overestimated the intimidation factor of balthazar's army

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>>163073259

Things get messy fast but the archers slowly tear them apart

>>163073101

Amber, Jade, Grey are the top dogs. Bright and Light aren't as good but are still pretty great. Celestial and Metal are both poop.

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>Man I hate beastmen, they slaughter our men, rape and mutilate our women, corrupt our lands and burn our sacred forests: they destroy everything we hold dear and are really the only beings we go out of our way to fight
>Oh look, the humans who never bother us are committing genocide on them all over the world
>Hey I remember Franz, I saved his life way back and gave him a gigantic monster to ride into battle because I felt he would be a good leader for them, glad to see he's doing well
...
>On second thought, humans are fags lol

It can't be this difficult to get a simple NAP

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>>163073342

>G O B L I N S

Wew lads didn't think I was going to win that

>>163071301
Looks like tree hitler has to genocide some gobbos once again. Nothing to be concerned about.

If I just switch swordsmen for free company, am I going to die?
Like, a battle line of 10 free company.

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Any hope that they'll get the patch for Wood Elf AI confed and Marienburg siege towers out this month?

>>163073729
free company are ranged troops m8

any cav and you are toast

>take K8P as Belegar
>dwarfs have already taken over a majority of the badlands

Does this mean I go to war with the dwarfs now? Or should I just take over whats left of the other dwarf kingdoms? I think Thorgrim already confederated Zhufbar and Karak Kadrin

>>163073747
Play as the wood elves and don't get sieged at Marienburg.
>>163073830
Rrrrmmmmm.
Ok...
But I was like 50 turns in my other game and I fought like 3 units of cav total.

>>163073425
Wild Riders really are just the best cav in the game right now aren't they

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>Kharn WHAT??
>Is this sexual harassment

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>>163073970

Is that name real?

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>>163073320
nearly got my ass beat there no thanks to my skirmishing outriders running to the edge of the map while i wasn't looking but they did take out mannfred in the end. good work by my greatswords though and rip steam tanks ;;

>>163074125
>4 demis
>2 steam tanks
>pyrhic victory
what the fuck, what were your steam tanks doing? you weren't using them as artillery I hope

>>163074028
yep

I also had another chaos lord called "mercy" with no last name.
Someone at CA is trolling us with those names.

>>163074028
It takes 5 seconds to rename Lords and units.

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>>163074182

I know, hence why I was asking if the name was real.

>>163074159
i kinda lost track of them and they got rekt while i was handling my other units. very poor micro on that one.

>>163074159
>Don't use steam tanks as artillery.
Not that guy, but how is one supposed to use steam tanks?

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>>163074224

>>163074359

use them as a battering ram against enemy blobs

>>163072851
He'll get upgraded once we have Lore of Mr.Tz

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>>163074365

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>>163074482

>>163072074
It was their first TW, they were very young and thus easier to please, they keep looking at the game through the lens of mods refined for a decade

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>>163074550

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>>163074629

>>163072074
Because it's a damn fine game.
Lots of factions play differently. Killing units felt great.

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>>163074707

>>163074851
>Lots of factions play differently
eeeh, barbars felt terribly unfinished, samey and dull, there is a reason europa barbarorum started out as a barbar mod

>>163074879
Can't wait for Imrik and his star dragon. Show you kids what a real mount looks like.

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>>163074851
>Lots of factions play differently

>>163074945
It's 2004. This is the biggest strategy game out there. You get to slaughter thousands of soldiers in an extremely violent time.
As the Romans you can go north to fight barbars, east to fight phalanx, or south for something else altogether.

What I'm saying is in the campaign the neighbors you fight with your particular army style will be different.
You can have chariots vs phalanx as Egypt, or chariots vs barbars as Britannia. Phalanx vs Romans or phalanx vs sand people, or barbars.
You can't tell me the game wasn't great when it came out.

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Dwarfs a shit!
SHIIIIIIIIT!

>oh, it's an "ally drags you into a billion wars" episode

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Turn 14
what am i supposed to do

>>163075215
What is that broccoli doing to that manlet?

>>163075289
making it into a shishkebab

>>163075274

Why the fuck are you attacking Wissenland at turn 14?

>>163075274
Turn unit size to ultra.

>>163075321
they declared on me

>>163075341

Then go fuck them up with a full stack

>>163075453
that army is all i have

>>163075532

Recruit more then

>>163075584
i can't, they're raiding my province

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>>163074879
>HAHA
>MUSTARD

>>163075719
laying siege*

>in an actual battle their entire strategy can usually be summed up as being ranged cowards. Now ranged combat doesn't automatically make you a coward, but at least the empire and the dwarfs hold their ground, elves actively run away. Sure the usual excuses are "Gud Stratugy" or "smrt Taktix" and there is some merit to them, but it's a thin line between tactically withdrawing and re-positioning, and with just running away. Elves usually cross right over that line from pull back and provide cover fire, into run away until it's safe to shoot again.
Wew lad
I sometimes have a look at the forums to see what retardation is floating around that time but this.
"dey shudnt b ebul to run aweh from me bcuz das for babys. figt like manssz!!1!"
Dwarf and chaos fans are the fucking worst
antiochus 4life

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>>163075865
>romans

>>163075754
>>163075719
Why did you waste half your army settling a backwater shithole on the border of a country that hates you?

What's a suitable CPU to run warhammer?

What do you use anon?

>>163075965
they didn't, stirland came up to me with a defensive pact and i said yeah, then everyone declared on him

dumbass me, i guess

>>163074365
>>163074482
>>163074550
What's that guys problem.

>>163075865
I hope that guy does know that it isn't 200bc anymore.
In fact, almost 100% of our fighting is done with ranged weapons now. Ranged wasn't even enough, now all you gotta do to kill guys is poke around a corner and pull your finger and the thing shoots like 30 projectiles.

Ain't even armor anymore.
Yes, I know. Tanks. But every solder doesn't get a tank.

i5-4690, can run the game maxed out with 50+ framerate alongside my 970.

>>163075865
Only elves would call running away good tactics.

This is why they're in the book.

>>163076051

But what kind of battles are we talking about here anon?

AA?

>>163075975
I gots an i7 4790 and it runs perfect.

>>163076065
dude if it keeps them alive and their opponents then how is it bad?

>>163076018
Nuh-uh, bayonet charge is much manlinesserer way to fight
bulet is for pusy

>>163076097
you're being memed by a dawi
the guy on the forum though is 100% serious
chaos fanbois amirite?

>>163075215
beautiful

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ok they're coming at me, what should I do?

>>163076263
depends on the map

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Hey Mannlet, what do you think of fast?

>>163076090

Would my 3570k be bottlenecking me?

It's running at 4.2

>>163076347
is that some kind of mod that removes amber cost from units?

>>163076408
Probably not.
I'm running at 4.0, but I also have a 1070gtx.
This game runs better than Attila. Except for 3d portholes. It'll tank anything.

>>163076547

I get drops to like 20fps on a 20v20 spearmen map at ultra with fxaa

Im running a 1070 too

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>>163076318
nvm
flagellants + horse gunners 2 strong

>>163076583
beastmen just razed my settlement with my military building

>>163067769
>the faction which can never win in a straight fight rushes into the fight
It's a surprise they spawned out your borders before

>>163076567
Nevermind it's not that bad but feel like i should be getting higher

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>>163076347
His little baby legs were too short to catch me

>>163076567
Hmm.
Well the only 2 things I have turned down are shadows to ultra, instead of extreme, and porthole quality to 2D.
You did make sure to do that last one, right?
>>163076739
If you have to, just step a few things down bit by bit, until you've found out what you can sacrifice. You play mostly zoomed out anyway.

>>163068518
What unit

>>163076410
Nope, it just doesn't show them in this screen

I'd dx12 any good yet?

>>163076778

AA?

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tsuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I actually fucked up pretty badly by not signing a peace treaty immediatly after this battle, another clan declared a war on me and now I cant sign peace with any of them and I cant strike against one, without leaving my capital vulnerable to the other

>>163077027
x16

>>163077116
What?

>>163076797
Good to know, had no idea!

>>163071342
remove Marienburg ASAP. Just don't expand too fast and too wide becase it will likely fuck you over.

>>163077263
FUUUCK, I want them NOW

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reactionary dogs go home

>>163077413
So what faction is actually somewhat fun to fight battles with in Warhammer?
So far I tried Chaos and VC and both just didn't click with me especially due to everything being a bit too focused on melee infantry for my tastes.

>>163077263
wonder what they'll do with these, make them into some kind of leadership corpse cart?

>>163077486
empire and welfes are the most fun I think

>>163077486
Try empire, they've got a really well-rounded roster, and their campaign in general is pretty fun.

>>163077486
>fun to fight battles with in Warhammer?
I'd say
Skarsnik's goblin-focused faction (thousands of Goblins swarming into the badlands is fun!)
Empire (combined arms)
Wood Elves (strong overall, pretty shooty)
Beastmen, but only the Minotaurs

>>163077263
>Sire Bones crusade never ends

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>>163077263

Oh god they're actually adding the skeleton peasant chariot?

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I havent been keeping up with CA, whats the reason behind keeping Brettonia half-baked instead of finishing it as one of the earlier dlc factions?

>>163077739
Rereleasing first game in February with finished Bretonnia.

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What difficulty do you anons play on?

I'm getting pretty sick of VH because the AI is just overly agressive and can cheat with their 10000 stacks.

Should I try hard? Is it more balanced? It's a shame there's no way to change battle and campaign difficulty separatly.

>>163077836
>It's a shame there's no way to change battle and campaign difficulty separatly
you can though, it is in campaign options or maybe game options.

I usually play on hard with normal battle difficulty

>>163077836
But you can (unless you play on legendary).

When you're picking your faction, you can choose the campaign difficulty. In-game, you can go to the options to change the battle difficulty, so you can have a normal/very hard campaign/battle, or a hard/normal campaign/battle.

>>163077886
>>163077950
Oh shit! I thought they removed that option.

Why did they decide to hide it there instead of making you choose on the select screen like the old games?

And what mode of difficulty affects the achievs?

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>>163077836

>>163077836
VH campaign difficulty, normal battle difficulty. All of the fun of getting dogged by four enemy doomstacks in every single war but without them getting invisible bonuses on the battlefield so it still feels like a fair fight.

>>163078041
Campaign difficulty.

>>163077836
VH campaign cause its so easy to make blunders and I set battle difficulty down a notch cause having basic AI infantry fight like hardened vets breaks muh immersion.

>>163077719
>chariot
this meme again

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>>163078097
Nice. Time for a new campaign then.

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>>163078210
>this meme again

First I've heard

>>163077263
There's no way CA would put this much effort into FREE content, right? I mean, r-right?

HOLY FUCK HYPE

>>163077739
Actually a harder faction to do because TT-wise Bretonnia didn't get a proper update for 8th Ed, and they never actually had a fully rounded roster in the Total War sense, they very likely had to do well with some other factions to prove to GW that they could be given creative liberty to round out Bretonnia with stuff from the lore that was never given models and rules.

>>163078257
there was this endless discussion between two anons whether the battle pilgrims are a chariot or a 'normal' unit

>>163077263
>we're actually getting grail reliquae

Ok, now i'm excited.

>>163077545
maybe frenzy to nearby troops?

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>>163078420

I only jokingly call it a chariot unit because there's something amusing about a group of angry peasants carrying a skeleton on a wooden horse and crashing into the enemy.

>>163078367
>FREE content
I guess CA got a bit more budget for Bretonnia since they get released in the Old World edition which will surely bring a few bucks

>>163077739
They'll be released in February for free and are getting a expanded roster, like "we got the ok from GW to fill out the roster more using unused concepts"

Don't know what they've done or how much yet.

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>>163078494
in the end it doesn't matter what kind of unit it is, bretonnia's going to be fun!

>>163077836
>What difficulty do you anons play on?
legendary desu, anything lower than that is too easy, the AI is so retarded it really needs a crutch

>>163077263
I just want to charge things with calvary

>>163078494
It's like something straight out of a Monty Python skit

>>163078748
Bret peasants are a bit off

>>163078097
What's the difference between all the battle difficulties?

>>163078823
on higher battle difficulties, AI gets morale and melee attack bonuses while you get morale penalties

What's a good all-round faction for starters?
Played a few hours of dwarfs last night but it annoyed me how they can be kited so easily.

>>163079012
Empire, they have everything

>>163073918
Best at riding down G O B L I N S, but lack of armor/ap/bonus vs large means they can't hang with the big dogz

>>163079012
Empire are THE all rounder faction.

You just need to make sure you have the right tools for each job or else you'll have a lot of problems.

>>163079043
>>163079150
Thanks, which faction leader for them ?

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Have /twg/ accepted that Chaos Dwarfs are going to be the most complete & perfect fantasy tactical faction:
>Top line Dwarvan melee infanty
>Musket-type gunline infantry
>Top line artillery, including the most eye candy artilley in the game: rocket batterys
>Hobgobbo wolf rider fast cavalry & missile cav
>Bull-Centaur shock/melee cavalry
>Monster units & monster mounts
>Sorcerers

And most importantly, the best in-game unit:
>(Hob)Gobbo archers

They are completed dwarfs, have the dwarf strengths of infantry & artilley, but with magic, fast & heavy cav, and monsters. Literally a flawless faction with no weaknesses.

>>163079181
SUMMON

>>163079181
Karl "All Smiles" Franz, avoid Gelt

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>>163079212
:^)

>>163079181
Balthasar, of course.

Most handsome man of the Empire and also the most useful.

>>163079212
Except for never appearing outside of single WoC unit.

>>163079181
Karl Franz, best buffs, best fighter, Once you get him on death claw hes a real murder machine.

Gelt is cool but lore of metal is borderline useless.

Volk is not bad but even with all the faction/army buffs flagellants are hard to use reliably.

>>163079354
Any advice on building Franz?

>>163072851
He's ok for a caster lord, it's just that lore of metal fucking sucks. He'll become grat once lore of Keikaku is released.

>>163079404
For a first playthrough get his campaign movement first, then just make him a fighter. Also get Deathclaw asap

>>163079261
>look mum, I posted this unfunny picture again XDDD
no matter how often you post it, it's never going to be funny

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>>163079261
How can they be cucks when they are literally bulls? Checkmate.

>>163079181
Gelt is fine if you're using a mod that boosts magic. Franz is the easiest one to start with as he's a rape-machine.

>>163079404
Get campaign movement then go to the personal buffs and boost his offensive stats. Then start battles, right click on the enemy lord and see him crumble.

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MUH LADY

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>>163075215
nice kill, to bad he found his doom...

btw there were some more ideas on what to write down in the book.. but i didnt get the "make dwarfs insecure" by growing a beard.
soon the book will start on a new page and i am unsure how i should present it. should i have 3 pages? 2 up and 1 down?
so far i have 2 ideas
1. to only post the 2 pages with grudges and skip the first "introduction" page. but that would feel kinda wierd
2. post 4 pages. with elf laughing meme faces on the 4th page until the page is filled with grudges.

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after smashing yet another shogunate army I made peace with the Yodo faggots and took over the chang chong clan to the north of me, it took all of my melee infantry and ninjas, my economy is ruined, people are upset but at least I wiped out a clan of reactionary dogs

>>163077263
Are Grail Reliquary even a thing in the newest codex? What are they? Separate units or kind like sergant upgrade for grail piligrims?

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>>163079337
Chaos Dwarfs are in the Russian datamined leaks, we know CA have them on their roadmap.
>>163079523
Meant to post high res related

>>163079691

Why does this sound like it was written by some dumb slav with a learning disability?

>>163079723
>Beastdorfs
INTO THE BOOK

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>>163079212
Who?

>>163079460
>>163079526
Some of the leadership abilities seemed nice (esp. the melee defence) but if he's really that great at taking down generals that sounds pretty sick.

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>>163073415
Burn it

>>163079897
It's really hard to make a bad Franz, leadership or combat he will excel but he is slightly more geared towards combat

>>163079719
Upgrade for Grail Pilgrims.

Ca are obviously making them a sort of corpse cart for peasants.

BLOOD FOR THE TREE GOD

AND SKULLS FOR HIS BEASTMAN

>>163079780
which part? the book of the comment? i had issues explaining what i was trying to say in the comment
as for the book, well who knows. maybe i am just a retard. you could point out an example so i could correct it you know

>>163079691
Write "I love gobbos" in his with paint or something else that can't come off unless he shaves

>>163080056
>for peasants
Makes me wonder if there'll be a peasant-only campaign eventually. Something like Skarsnik, but for the best faction.

>>163080090
book OR the comment

>>163080109
daium, thats evil

>>163079719

>Are Grail Reliquary even a thing in the newest codex? What are they?

They're basically like an add-on to the Grail Pilgrim infantry unit, gave a boost to leadership rolls or something.

>>163079780
Do you seriously expect elves to get anything right?

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>ally with a clan
>it goes to war with all if its neighbours
>drags me into them
>dies
and now I have to deal with all these cunts, just you wait bastards, I am soon going to have 2 parrot guns and then you are all fucked

>>163079780
It's a shitty forced meme we'll all look back on and groan.

>>163072074
Because who wants to play Macedonians with a more diverse skin tone, and also Total War shouldn't even be used a phrase until the napoleonic era where everything could be towards war and not just meet a war aim
>>163072678
Legendary lords should be best they can be, as your normal lords should have the army buffs
>>163072702
Make him cost too much in multiplayer, best way for those fags to shut up when their beastmen, wood elves and tomb king alliance is beaten by a hordes of chaos army

>>163079523
they are bullcucks

>>163080327
it's your fault for allying with them then

>>163080367
buthurt dawi detected

>>163079523
You can cuck anything as long as you're tall enough.

>>163080396
absolutely

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>>163079523
>muh datamined russian leak

can't even imagine a more pathetic creature than the average chaos dwarf fan

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>>163067716
REMOVE SAXON

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>>163079691
Steal their gunpowder barrels, sell it back to them filled with ground up orc shit.

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>>163073425
>407 kills
If you'd had another Wild Rider unit or three it would have been ez

>>163079897
Leadership ones are great but unless you're getting extra ability points from mods the combat ones will be much more useful in the early game.

>>163080549
What happened here?

>>163080621
Oh, just Saxons losing their capital, like the little bitches they are.

>>163080725
>little bitches they are
>he writes in english

woden lad

>>163081314
yes, a language that borrows french vocabulary extensively.

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>>163067716

I'm thinking about replacing some of my Empire ranged infantry with a few units of those Helblaster guns wedged between the greatswords at the front, good idea?

>Want to play Dawi
>But Karaz Ankor is shit
>But Belegar doesn't move his capital to K8P so he can never get proper trade

>>163072851
Because he was designed as end game boss not one you'd actually want. MUch like how brettonia has OP units because they only have 6 units or so
>>163073415
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Karl_(general)
He was a Nazi so what matter is it.
Durthu wants to genocide anything that could possibly pose a threat to the forest and Orion has a pub crawl so don't expect them to make sense

>>163079780
t. hairy drunken midget

>>163081356
>oak of ages gotta be littered with the blood of the asrai

isn't that wrong?

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>FOTS sieges

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>>163079691

>lose your King's crown to two foot tall manlets
>make a notebook of """"grudges"""" instead of taking it back

>>163081563
The original is "The tree of liberty must be littered with the blood of patriots"

>>163081563
thats actually correct its everyone else that got the meme wrong, its meant to be the blood of the allies of the poster, don't forget that the original is
>tree of liberty got to be littered with the blood of patriots

>>163081457
Karl and Franz are common german names.
Might as well say that any person that has the Name adam smith is an economist.

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>>163081660
my mistake

>>163081563

5000 hrs in paint toiling over this oc... and you tries to break it down in one single post.....

this one is goin in the book

>>163081598
but anon-san, theres alot of gold to go around. we can just make a new one.

>>163081314
>english
>half german/half latin/half french language thinks it's some kind of good thing

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Anons.

>you will never live in a supremely comfy and equally unassailable dwarfen Karak, drinking with your dwarfbros and going on grobi hunts
Fucking hell, lads.

>>163082380
>you will never live in a filthy and skaven/goblin infested hole in the ground, drinking to hide your shame and constantly fighting for your life against hordes of greenskins

feels great man

>>163082378
if is vampire i reroll

>>163082378

>>163082556
>he doesn't want to TAKE BACK EVERY GRUDGE and make the Badlands great again
Time to beat the shit out of anon.

>>163082257
>languages evolve over time with different influences from adjacent languages


Who'd have thought? Also the most important sound 'th' is pure Saxon and a good way to sift out scum since they can't pronounce it correctly.

>>163082815
I thought it was "pay back every grudge". Take back doesn't make any sense.

>>163075215
CAN someone make a new version of this with the other faction lords
>>163075865
Is this some sort of roleplay forum
>>163076107
There's a reason Americans haven't done bayonet charges in thousands of years they're pussies unlike the noble Anglo who charges into the breech thus preserving ammunition and capturing prisoners
>>163076678
This is why you build wide not tall
>>163082378
For if I don't get the dlc

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>tfw you'll never ride with Forrest the Lord of the Forest cutting down yankees for daring to try and end shota slavery

>>163083069
>>163082378
Still DLC

Why is Shogun 2 so highly regarded? I get it's more balanced, but I can't get past All Rook Same factions. Oh, we're fighting guys that are exactly like us... again...

>>163083037
The Dwarfs take back the grudge because they issue it, in the same way that you take back an insult if you didn't mean it/its no longer relevant.

>>163083139
Because I can relive glorious katana charge like my ancestors

>>163083103
>tfw you will never serve a beastman
This is nice.

>>163083139
It's pretty polished. It has fast paced fun and feels tight. The game has "focus" in way.


If you don't like the setting then you don't like the setting.

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>>163083139

>game takes place during a civil war in a country
>w-why does everyone look the same

>>163083139
>but I can't get past All Rook Same factions

that's your problem, there's nothing wrong with it

How can i have more than 1 WE army?
My income becomes negative if i field 2 or more

>>163083286
acquire rich pastures.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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Why do the waywatchers in total war look like half naked hobos? It's like they fired all their concept artists. What the fuck is wrong with them

>>163083139
You could pucker up some cash for more unique units. It's just a halfway decent game.

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>>163082378
I dont have miniatures to paint

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>>163083139
>they all look the same
>somehow people still shilling for pike and shit

A lot of the diversity in total war is pretty much ahistorical. Luckily China:Total War can encapsulate many periods of warfare and many cultures for a diverse game.

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>>163083374
Because this is how models look.

>>163083494
Well then go out and buy some sigmarines KEK VULT

Why do people love Space Marines in 40k but hate Sigmarines in fantasy?

>>163083598
>not finding fantasy minatures
I bought some dorfs the other day.

>>163083269
asians do look the same you know

>>163083701
Because they were there for 30 years.

>>163083750
Also they have more personality and character.

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What's the best it's been on sale for, is this a good price and would you reccomene g2a

>>163083701
Space Marines are just so shit in terms of design, everyone laughs at their absurd tonka toy buzz lightyear power armour. People don't liek Sigmariens because they don't represent Empire at all apart from having hammers. The point of the Empire is just men standing against incalcuable horrors through faith steel and gunpowder not by having invincible automatons.

>>163083865
just type in pc game codes, click the first 5 websites and search them all

it's not rocket science

>>163083521

Let me guess, you'd want a meme three kingdoms game

>>163083701
Not every 40k fan is a fantasy fan and vice versa.

>>163082378
rolling

End Times Tyrion kill count:
>Malus
>Aislinn
>Orion, fucking orion
>A shitload of dragons
>Almost murdered Malekith, if not for Orion

Tyrion better be the best melee combatant in the game or I will riot

Red Duke get out

>>163083139
Shogun 2 is the most recent TW game that runs nicely on my toaster craptop, so it's fine by me.

What faction should I play if I want heavy artillery, the empire or the dwarfs?

>>163084209
wait, how does tyrion kill the avatar of kurnous himself?

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Man, horsefucker armies against VC are way too fun

>>163084209
Tyrion was really just a shell khaine inhabited so not that good really
>>163084226
EMpire as more variety

>>163084226

Empire desu.

Dwarfs have the problem that all their late-game artillery has too short range to be useful.

>>163084209

Who has the better kill count between Tyrion and Gotrek

And who would win in a 1v1

>>163084247

You hit it hard enough

>>163084302

I assume that if we get Tyrion, there will be a quest to get the Widowmaker.

But even without the widowmaker, tyrion was among the best

>>163082378

Just got done SUMMONING, give me something else.

>>163084209

>Using the Sword of Khaine

Literally doesn't count fag.

In Attila, how does navy compare to regular embarked units? Do they rip them apart or...?

>>163084578
No, embarked units dominate navies on the sea

What the fuck do you think?

>>163084630

>embarked units dominate navies on the sea

This was literally the case in Rome 2.

>>163082378
SAY MY NAME!

>fight welf player as vamps
>find his hidden waystalker w/ my cav
>tries to save it by sending his lord over
>btfo his lord
>he tries to get his lord back in the air but cant run away from my cav
>alt f4s

wew

>>163084391
Grimnir vs Khaine. Eternal stalemate.

>>163084827
>implying khaine wouldn't rek grimnirs stunted boipussy

>>163084793

>not just bullying vamps with a full horsefucker army

He asked for it