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RIDIN' IN STYLE edition

>What's new?
Two new heroes, Varian and Ragnaros announced at Blizzcon, along with a new brawl map and a couple of new skins.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327398/new-things-announced-at-blizzcon-2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4900jOY8cCM

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Where do I find you Odin-without-Master-Assassin-talenting faggots?
/join /vg/

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20379596/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-december-2-2016-ghost-protocol-12-1-2016

>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20379591/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-december-5-12-5-2016

>Official site, general news:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
http://www.heroesnexus.com

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips

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first for fenix when
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>tfw you could never make it out of gold
>tfw literally a complete waste of time to have done hero league

JUST
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>it's another starcraft shitty op
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>>162677671
HL is a trap, anon. More-so starting next season.
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>>162677671
I got placed in Platinum

your dreams will be memes next season, anon
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>>162677691
can't exhaust the never ever meme too much
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>>162677671
>gold

At least it doesn't look like you failed to get Diamond or Masters.

>>162677752
How do you figure? Just curious.
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>tfw start using Counter-strike at 10
Now THIS is maximum memes. It easily (especially at later levels) deals ~50% of most heroes' life. Twice in one game I got a 5-man Counter-strike and it absolutely fucking obliterates.

>>162678101
Low player-base. Lack of MMR/Rank decay. Easily abuseable. Able to duo and solo but nothing else. The awful queueing logic. A Master can't queue with a bronze but usually gets placed with and/or against bronze. Overall the entire ranking system is nigh-meaningless and is a joke. Oh and the whole "one bad player has a larger impact than one good player" is painfully true and damaging.

It's of no wonder many players don't care or try about winning or learning. Why bother? Keep your MMR/rank lower so you get placed with higher MMR/rank so they can do all the work.
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>>162677329
correction on the current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20395948/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-december-9-2016-garden-arena-12-8-2016
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>162678312
>all of this

Seems pretty spot on, actually. Cheers.

>>162678356
>weekly brawls

Any word on what the next one will be?
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Classic Xul when?
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>>162678516
maybe the punisher arena one
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>>162679359
it's in development, here's a sneak peek
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when are they going to add minimap on left
both warcraft and starcraft had it there
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>>162680320
Customisable (Scale HUD) when?
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>>162680320
Probably not for a while.

>interface improvements brought up on official forums and/or reddit
>being able to click on things to see their health lowers the skill ceiling of glorious game
>having teammate hp/mana frames lowers skill cap
>why would you need to tweak the interface in any way omg its perfection i love blizzard i met my wife at blizzcon
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>Ragnaros out in 1 day for yurop
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>tfw placed gold 5

currently on suicide watch
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>>162681384
You were so close.

Better luck in a few days.
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whats the best course of action against a greymane if you are a squishy melee? Mainly Xul, Greymane's tend to bully me because there is little I can really do besides bone prison, bone armor, and run and hope.
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tfw already winning consistently with diablo in anticipation for the buffs
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>>162681872

Xul does badly 1v1 against heroes that can dive him, especially early game.

Just avoid them 1v1 and focus on fucking them over in team fights.
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>>162682005
Yeah that's what I try to do. I guess Xul is just bad for solo QM. Hard to get a teammate to switch lanes with me.

I was just hoping there was somethng I was missing.
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>>162681872
>>162682087

I sincerely hope this is bait.
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>>162682087

All you can do is hope you get a map like Towers, Shrines, or Blackheart.

Xul excels on those maps but not many others.
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>>162682154
Yeah, that fuckin' zerg rush map is a son of a bitch.

>>162682148
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
not all of use are MLG 420 leet
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>team comp is anub, zarya, jaina, lili, sylvanas
>vs dehaka, etc, kharazim, li ming and samuro
>we come up with the bright idea to five man rush bottom and take the fort
>we manage to do so in under a minute
>team then proceeds to tard up and get so happy and confident about this that they each feed six deaths and we never take another structure ever again as the enemy team snowballs us to fucking hell
I guess this is what happens when you queue up for ranked a day before the season ends.
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>>162681872
>Mainly Xul, Greymane's tend to bully me because there is little I can really do besides bone prison, bone armor, and run and hope.

You are now aware that your W greatly decreases attack speed
You should also know that greymane works on an attack speed buff that goes away if he doesn't keep attacking, and you happen to have a talent that grants you evasion
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>>162682280
Neither, and that's why I played a lot of Xul, especially into melee Heroes reliant on basic attacks, like Butcher, Thrall, Illidan and Greymane.

Just curious as to when and how you're having trouble. Not here to flame, or anything.
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>>162681872
>>162682087
Xul is great in solo QM. In particular, for 1v1ing a Greymane, Backlash over Shade is the way to go. Either way your bone shield will be going down due to his swipes, so with Backlash not only is it a shield, but it's 15% of his max health fucking gone after he breaks it, which makes up for Xul's lack of burst damage ability. If the fight is in a middle of a lane, there's no way his minions die and don't become skeletons. He'll then need to deal with 15% of his health gone, plus whatever your melees and Q did to him, and minions and skellies. Yeah, you might lose a decent amount of health, but after 7 that means nothing with the skeleton heal, and he's getting just as punished as you are.

So anyway, never underestimate Backlash, I fucking love that talent.
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Since the game is dead until tomorrow let's make a new patch note 1 line at at time, I'll start:

Tracer:
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>>162682978
Deleted from the game.
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>>162683048
ETC
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>>162683142
Still rockin'
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>>162682978
>In an attempt to improve the health of the game this Hero has been permanently removed. No refunds will be offered.
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reminder
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>>162683048
New Hero: Sombra
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jaina
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How do I get back into this game? Is playing Malfurion still spamming heal & roots & ult during teamfights and being just fine?
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>>162683327
loves orc cock
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>>162683327
>Price reduced to 2000
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>>162683491
Is jaina going to be reduced? awesome.
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>>162682280

His waveclear for that map is only good if you are losing. His strength is in skeleboning up two lanes and AA slow/root for teamfights.
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>>162683407

As a support you will be focused a lot, especially in solo queue.

Malf is mostly the same though. The new meta is going Twilight Dream instead of healing ult because of mana regen and huge value in silence.
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>>162683720
Wasn't she reduced from 10,000 to 4,000?

>>162683491
>Azmodan was reduced from 10,000 to 2,000
>Gazlowe was reduced from 4,000 to 2,000
>Murky hasn't had his price tag removed entirely
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>>162683720

She's free if you do the tutorial challenge thing.
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>>162683867
>Murky hasn't been removed entirely
fixed
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>>162684138
>living the dream

godspeed
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>>162684006
So thats what that was. I couldn't understand why I was given a choice between 3 heroes one day. I picked Tyrande, which was a mistake, im a terrible Tyrande.
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Where the fuck is Rag?
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>>162684282

>no tits shooped on

2/10 edit needs work
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>>162684526
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>>162684779
Reminder: Tyrande fags are literally FAGGOTS
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>>162685641
>attempt pic related
>Sorry, we couldn't detect a face.
lmao
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>Tuesday
>no Ragnaros
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>win 8 of my ten placement matches
>only silver
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>>162686460
>being bronze in qm/unranked prior

unlucky
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>>162686460
>lose 6 of my placement matches
>silver
sheesh
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>>162686791
>>162686730
How else does it determine rank? I was pretty much support the entire time with Malfurian or bw
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>>162686858
I'm pretty sure it's based on Unranked/QM mmr.

So, if you play, say, 500 Quick Matches, and win 240 of them, you probably won't get Platinum, even going positive in Placements. Could be horribly wrong though.
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>instead of autistically playing the same hero and getting good, I play everything a little.

Now that I have 1000 games, who should I main?
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>tfw no bathtime/summer fun Li Li skin never EVER
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>>162688291
get 300 more games as a multiclass then we can talk.
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>>162688724

they should make a multiclass hero that isn't shitass then
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>>162688712
>no summer/beach/pool skins

it's like they hate money
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>>162688712
Maybe they should give lili a better face texture and more polygons first
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how do I make my team's jaina do more damage than the enemy rehgar
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>>162689301
root them so jaina's little icle rain thing hits more than once
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>Li Li's dragon talents synergize and make her strong
>she's in the meta

>Blizzard nerfs Li Li's dragon talents
>she's not viable

I wonder if there's some kind of middle ground maybe. Rework when?

>Li Li's
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>gazlowe doesnt have a rocket boots ult
one job blizz
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>>162689906

>Sprint isn't renamed to Nitro Boost and doesn't give him a streak of fire when he runs away

Literally remove him from the game
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>>162689906
should've been his trait, with scrap built into his turrets
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>>162689637
uther rework when
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>>162689130
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>>162690105
That looks painted on just give her chen's face textures so it looks like she has actual fur
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How is the new artanis?
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>>162688835
Fuck off cunt varian is a beast i bet you play him as prot and get your ass handed to you.
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>>162689301

Tell them to

1)Not stand where Li-Ming stands because she doesn't have that kind of range.

2)Hit their shit.

And then lower your own expectations, because Jaina's cds are twice the other mages and her sustain sucks.
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>>162690621
>beast
>easily kited
>gets cced after a colossus smash so no one dies
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>>162691056
>he's a beast play him prot
>colossus smash

i'm not him but cmon anon
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Anybody else feel like Warbringer might be a little overrated? Yes, it's good, but there are a lot of situations where flat out ignoring everything would mean a lot more.
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KINKY
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>>162691216
point and click stun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
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>>162689637
They are absolutely inconsistent with what they do and don't find fair or interesting and acceptable. I feel like they show a lot of double standards in their balancing.
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Dehaka is pretty fun
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>>162691393
Welcome to blizzard games. They can't balance worth shit
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>>162684347
>Murky with tits
Meh, I've fapped to worse
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>>162691109

>picking dw varian

what are you brain damaged/ foreign???
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>>162692650
>reading comprehension
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>>162692779

jokes on you, I am actually retarded quoted wrong post
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>>162690515
He's now fucking awful as a tank.
Now forced into mediocre bruiser role.
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>>162695737
Thats a shame, I had fun with him during his free week.
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>>162691216

It's not really that shield wall isn't great. It's that charge is SO bad without warbringer. You don't have a complete kit without it.
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Varian is overpowered
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>>162696971

under*
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>>162695737
He was always awful as a tank.
The only time in the game he's a good tank is at late levels when he becomes Sundowner.
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>>162696971
is this a meme

>>162695737
as the above anon says he was always pretty bad as a "tank"

his strength was his lategame ability to 1v3 bronzies who wanted to trade face
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>>162696971
*uber
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>>162697585
So they nerfed an already bad character?
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>Azmodan gets Taste For Blood
>and Demonic Invasion
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>>162697863
I don't know, actually. It was inevitable he would get a rework, though. Either because he couldn't "main tank" or because he was too oppressive at low mmrs.

>>162698226
>taste for blood
questionable
>demonic invasion
doesn't synergize with the former, but usually a fine pick until you reach mmrs at which your splits can be countered by globals

Azmo's W and E builds along with Demonic Invasion feel like S tier until at least Gold. Wish somebody good did a tier list by league/mmr.
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>tfw despite going 4-6 in TL placements and getting half my wins with meme comps, I still place in silver

Is bronze really that hard to get?
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>>162698670
Placements are just 10 regular games with wider MMR swings (potentially) That's it. They do not mean much.
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>>162698817
>placements pitted me against people ranked silver through diamond, and even two masters

would going 0-10 put me in the same place as going 10-0 idk about that
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>>162698481
Is the lol keal as edgy as Kael?
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Are healing wards ever very impactful? Feels like it's healing nothing at all.
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>>162699303

is turning into a pool of blood edgy

>>162699370

That's because it gets destroyed by a light breeze
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>samuro player calling his entire team trash
>he did less hero damage than everyone including our tanks
>did less siege damage than chromie
>called everyone else shit
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>Magatha Grimtotem next shaman hero
>Multiclass support/assassin
>Shaman water spells or twilight corrupted earth spells


y/n
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what's the equivalent of teabagging in this game?
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>>162699718
Only other cow that should be added is Cairne
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>>162699740

B-Stepping

Mash B and walk around over their corpse
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>>162698965
What does that even supposed to mean? Match-making is shit, more-so with the relatively low player pool.
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>>162699718
Sounds fun.
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>>162699424
No if is a medical condition.
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>>162699303
Whoops. Pic related in lol Kael, minus the ulti.

>>162699718
I'd be down.

>>162699740
>alternating between spamming B and S
>spamming B and moving
>spamming /dance keybind and S

>>162699832

I'll test it out next season.
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>>162699909
Kael is not bald or a nigger.
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>>162700887
how do you know

anyways brand has an extremely similar skillset to kael, even though vlad definitely looks a bit more like him
>>162699823
>tfw somebody whispers you saying they're reporting for bm and to enjoy ban
>whisper back asking wut
>ignored
these people are why we can't have all chat
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>>162700887
>the latter

oh reading comprehension I thought that's what you were calling me
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Reminder that Blizzard does not give two fucks about Gazlowe, Nova, or Anub'arak, despite being less effective the more competent your opponents are, but they'll pay all their attention to heroes that are already useful.
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>>162701230
>been playing hots since closed beta
>Gaz was always one of my favorites
>stopped playing when they added Butcher
>start playing again
>he's the exact same

Its still nice to go RoboGoblin and be the actual one man wrecking crew, but how the FUCK has he not gotten some sort of rework or touch up?

at least ETC's mouth finally fucking moves
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>>162701776
He did get a rework.

It was fucking nothing.
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>>162701230
>giving a shit about anub'arak

lmao
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>QM mmr rising steadily
>HL mmr falls every season

What could cause this?
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>>162701230
>implying this is bad
Gazlo is fine, hes situational as fuck but can turn a match around with enough camp spam.
While I like playing the ocasional Nova shes a shitty Zeratul but thats her niche I guess.
Anub is gud tank with a shit tonk of disrupt, now that artanis got nerfed he will probably see more action.
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>>162701230
Anub got buffed a bit, he's a nice tank if you have a dive comp. He isnt a must but he isnt bad either, he's a stun machine and that alone helps peeling shit.

Anub is fine.
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>Die 0 times
>Be the only teammate to do the objective
>Lose

Fucking sucks having a Nova that hits the tanks and dies, sucks losing when you're playing out of your mind.
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Stukov fucking when?

He is already in that dead sc2 mode that nobody plays, why he can be in our dead game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhAKcgMCK4c
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>>162706498
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>>162706498
>tfw no fem barb lewds
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What character you expect, but fear a monkey paw kind of curse?
For instance
>They add cyadea
>She is just a subpar azmodan
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>>162707539
pls no
not like this
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>>162707539
Andariel
>she gets added
>they censor her hard and give her the wow artstyle treatment
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Are they a couple yet?
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>>162707895
>>162707174
>brightwing lewds

moderately surprised
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>>162688291
patch that's coming tomorrow is doing good thing for artanis, diablo, and dehaka.

Now's a good time to main tanks.
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>>162708185
can you not
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>>162708056

That's not how JUSTICE works.
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>About to pick Azmo
>Zag tells me to switch
>Try to trust her
>She doesn't push or do anything while using her ult to save the enemy several times

How the fuck do you less siege damage then healer?
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>>162708281
>implying the Nightelves give a fuck about her doing JUSTICE on him
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>>162708432
>zag less siege than a healer

is this the deep bronze I've heard about
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>>162707539
D2 Druid
>He's just some OC bullshit and has little to do with the actual Druid from D2
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Why do you lie about placements /hotsg? Those are the most important matches you will play all season. Season before last I ended at Diamond 3, went 2 - 8 in placements thanks to the usual shitpicks and got placed in Plat 3. Thats a whole division.
Stop lying you bastards
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>>162708952
hidden MMR defines your general position
the placement matches just modify it by +/- a few ranks.
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>>162709132
It doesnt tho. I was placed in Plat 3 after the placements and got bonus points all the way up to D1, so that is where my MMR was
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>>162708952
>Went rank 17 to silver.
>Didn't even do that bad and went 4 and 6.
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>>162708952
Yes, they're the most influential and I'm not sure why people insist they don't matter. Well, in a sense they don't, but they definitely have the potential to save a ton of time.
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>ragnaros will be first ban
>nobody will pick samuro
>varian will be first pick and gets raped
enjoy your placement matches
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What would Varian need to not be shit, if he's so bad?
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>Guy locks in aba without saying anything
>Gets mad when someone on his team doesn't pick what he wants
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>>162710936
>smurfing
>say i'm going abba
>guy bans him
>decide to not hover abathur, let alone announce my intention of playing
>suddenly people don't ban him
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>>162710540
Probably more heath and damage starting then change the health and damage more at ult selection, he isn't even a hero before 10 so you get behind early since it's 4v5.
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>>162711217
I have a buddy that likes playing Aba, so we often get good games going in unranked. Isnt playing Aba kinda risky if you dont have anyone you trust to move well?
In unranked I started just hovering Gazlowe every game, works pretty well most times.
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>tfw no Garrosh hero
>tfw no Garithos hero
>tfw no Admiral Proudmoore hero
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>>162711528
Aba need someone to go off of. I had many games where he would try to stick to one guy but he would waste it so the game pretty much became a 5v4.
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>>162711748
All of those sound incredibly boring. Garithos would never live up to his campaign appearance in this day and age.
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>>162711528
Yes, at least that's how he feels. It wasn't really about winning in my situation, though.
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>>162711825
why not? garrosh is basically the orc version of garithos and his story was developed recently
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>>162710540

He's a great in double tank comps, it's just people see one tank and it's dps time.
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Local writefag back again, a cool guy wanted to see Cho'gall x Gul'dan and who am i to refuse a christmas gift like that, enjoy
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>>162712280
wtf keylogger
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>Whole enemy team is pushing hard
>That one guy who ignores it for one merc camp that dies straight away.

There is no justification for it.
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Question.

Has anybody here been suspended, silenced and/or banned, specifically for intentionally dying?
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>>162713529
No, but how did you fuck up that bad?
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>half enemy team is dead
>enemy missing top and mid
>teammate gets the dragon
>instead of just going down the mid with the entire party and destroying their core just just goes bot where they have two basses
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>>162713604
Oh, I didn't. Just curious as to whether they really hand out punishments, and for what.

Like inting.
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>>162711982
Yeah, but Garrosh was a Character of Color himself, so he just fought for his culture.
Garithos is a white male human.
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>>162713838
>>162713529
These questions sound like you are pondering being a cunt ingame
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>>162713929
right right
it makes me sad that if wc3 plot was written today garithos probably wouldn't have existed
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Friendly reminder that you can dodge placement matches without taking a loss, or drop in MMR. At least currently.

>you will have to play 1 unranked, qm or brawl tho
>this increases by 1 with each subsequent dodge
>not sure if there's a cap
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>>162714480
>or drop in MMR
stop lying
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>5 levels ahead of enemy
>Our Zag complains she can't hold her lane when she is facing a one person
>Win game without her
>Ends up saying we should have lost

Some people are such babies in this game.
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Anyone know how the reworked teamleague is going to work?
Assuming I queue duo, get matched with a 3 queue against a 5 stack. Is it like in unranked that the 5 stack is going to have a significantly lower mmr?
I like them trying to get TL going but Im not sure about allowing 5 stacks.
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Guys, how can I actually get placed in bronze? I tried loosing all the placements and I still end up in gold 5....

I genuinely want that portrait
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>>162715764
Lose all ten again, perhaps?
Say, what was the rank of the players in your last few games? Also gold, or bronze-silver?
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>>162714613
Though it's true that Zagara isn't the bully she used to be, now she will lose a 1v1 lane against pretty much anyone
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Threadly reminder that I'm going to marry Auriel
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>>162716465
Bait.

>Use Hydralisk
>Use it again
>And use it if they ever show their face again (they won't)
Wow so hard.
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>>162715764
Just make sure you lose at least 7 in a row like i did for season 2. If you're not even trying like I did, you'll get autolock novas/zeratuls out the ass and won't even have to try for bronze.

I love my forced coinflip, just as the balance devs demand. : ^)
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>>162715854
It started of as dia 4 and at the end it was gold 3. Guess I'll try loosing another 10 in new season. The thing is, some games were very close and my team almost won practically 4v5 despite me trying my hardest to sabotage it.

So I'm not sure if I will manage to do it again. Would this be easier in TL with full group? Does TL have separate MMR or does it still draw average from QM/HL?
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>>162715764
>Win almost all the placements last season
>Silver 3
>Lose almost all placements this season
>Silver 3
Placements are a mem
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>>162716523
I genuinely want to indulge in that cesspool. Its probably easier to get on fresh acc, doesnt help I have over 2k games.
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>>162716556
'Gotcha.

My smurf account journey began at Silver III-V
Ended at Diamond III 500 points

Zz. My team pulled off the 4v5 for the first four games, or something. Figured I'd get Gold or Silver, so just won the remaining games.

>>162716697
Yeah, definitely. Lose a few quick matches, level the 14 heroes to 5 in Vs. AI and then just lose placements. Should easily be Bronze.

>also reminder to raf yourself for free raynor/sylvanas/stim
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>>162716523
never forced 50
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>>162716758
>winning with best waifu till the end.
Here's to next season.
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>>162716515
Hydra does less damage and is more easily killed now, due to nerfs to both hydra and creep. Zagara herself has less life and does not constantly recc it like before, meaning if you kill hydra quickly then trade she will not come ahead anymore, at the very least you can force her to turtle behind her towers which old Zagara alnost never needed to.
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>Have a match going like shit
>Everyone is blaming everyone else
>there is an opening
>Enemy goes for the objective
>we go as 5 to the core
>We win
that was a refreshing surprise
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I want to rape Sonya!!!
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>game crashes during draft with no error message
>-600 ranked points
>leaver status for 2 games
>first time this has happened since i play HOTS
the fuck? has this ever happened to anyone else?
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>>162716628
gee anon it's almost like it's...
based on MMR
just like they said it would be
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>>162719039
That happens only when you're winning.
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>>162719039
Not my game crashing but I wasn't able to select a hero for the entire draft and I lost points down to demotion game and had 2 leaver games, even tabbing out and back in typing something into the search bar and deleting it, nothing worked to let me select a character.
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>>162718769
you mean you want Sonya to rape you right?
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>>162719437
Someone complained about the same thing last night in draft. He had Guldan prepicked, the enemies got him, and he couldn't select anything. Weirdly enough, he didn't get kicked out, and was instead given a random hero.
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>>162719039
Once it happened to me instantly after I pressed search.
Returned to menu like nothing happened but locked me from ranked and had to play 2 quick match with shitters.
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Which War would u craft?

Hard mode: No Sylvanas and Jaina
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>>162719925
Lunara
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>>162719925
Vashj
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>>162712280
Can I request some /u/?
Sylv/Jaina or
Valla/Ming or whatever you want.
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You hit grandmaster, right /hotsg/?
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>>162720242
>Grindmaster
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>>162720987
>he wasn't raised on the grindest MMOs of all time
I didn't have shortcuts until I was nearly a man and by then it was EZ
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>>162717584
old zagara was balanced 2bh
>>
POST
MORE
BLIZZARD
SLUTS
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When does Season 3 hit
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Ragnaros OP, pls nerf
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>be samuro
>enemy vikings longboat up during a teamfight
>sit on them with bladestorm, should kill all of them after longboat breaks
>our chen barrels them away when longboat breaks
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>>162719925
Maiev
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>>162724336
I don't judge people based on their choice of heroics, except for Chen fucking barrel and for Stitches Gorge. Those two tell me I'm playing with a mongoloid and I get instantly tilted.
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>>162724568
Chen barrel is good, it's just pubbies are fucking braindead.
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>be johanna
>enemy etc powerslides through me and mosh pits 4 people
>god bless iron skin
>blessed shield
>stuns the entire enemy team
>we crush them in that teamfight
i have never felt better in any moba ever
so THIS is why people enjoy playing tanks
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>patch not today
what the flying fuck
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>>162724568
Both are good.

>>162725793
It is. In a few hours.
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>>162726075
>in a few hours
I'm EU ;_;
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>>162724568
Barrel is for any Chen player that has balls and doesn't want to rely on some pussy Get Out Of Jail Free shit.
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>piece of shit retards that can't even talk during draft when you ask them a question
>in platinum
this fucking NEVER happened in LoL
god fucking damn it I love this game, but matchmaking is PURE SHIT

even fucking BRONZIES in LoL know the meta, and would understand that if you got Xul on BHB, you go 1 4
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>>162703619
Your HL mmr is only from QM the first time you place, afterwards it uses you're previous seasons. So despite your QM mmr rising you're only getting lower every season because you haven't actually raised the bar at all.
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>>162720181
No girls, only boyz
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>>162727268
platinum in hots is below bronze in league
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>>162727268
It's because people even on new accounts can be placed in Diamond 3. In league I think if you won all your placements on a new account the highest you got was gold 5 or something?
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anyone tried Diablo, Dehaka and Ragnaros in the PTR? are they OP now?
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>>162729781
Dehaka definitely is, Diablo seemed pretty good now too. I'm not sure what to think about rag since I didn't try him out, and a lot of the players seemed pretty bad who were playing him.
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>>162729781
Diablo is fun and works a lot better now, coordination turns him into a monster now, rather than it being a neccesity to coordinate or be dead weight.

Dunno about the 'haka.

Ragnaros shits damage like a madman with Empower, can chase for kills incredibly well with meteor and his explosion, his waveclear is good/absolutely insane depending on your ult and being a raidboss is fun.
>>
One Night With Kharazim when?
>>
How much longer until Ragnaros is out on US servers?
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>>162732548
probably like 3 or 4 hours
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>>162732548
What are you doing thwarting my plans?
>>
I've been playing titanfall 2 and it's a new and high quality game.

The online population right now? 3500 people

people in hots and starcraft 2 should be more gratefull for their 'ded' games
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>>162699718
come on anon that sounds WAY to complex for this player base
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>>162734334
their mistake for not doing an open beta on PC and releasing it in between CoD: IW and BF1
should have waited until people got tired of those two and then released it
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>>162734334
i'd rather have a small, dedicated player base than a modest one filled with complete retards
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>Button changed from play to update
Awwwwww shit boys.
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JUST
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>>162677329

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20405715/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-december-14-2016-12-14-2016
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20405715/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-december-14-2016-12-14-2016
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20405715/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-december-14-2016-12-14-2016
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MX_Heroes_Ragnaros_Alt.ogg - https://my.mixtape.moe/juqicg.ogg
MX_Heroes_Ragnaros_Full.ogg - https://my.mixtape.moe/zgnujt.ogg
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I wonder if we will get a Christmas present from the game
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since when is this in the files
it wasn't back in october i think
MX_Heroes_OriginalMenu.ogg - https://my.mixtape.moe/lfainb.ogg
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its live
>>
400s queue so far
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>>162737932
see you guys in silver 2
>>
what the heck is this
MX_Heroes_Muradin.ogg - https://my.mixtape.moe/dzbmsk.ogg
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>>162738492
Maybe they are going to give all characters a home screen you can switch to.
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>>162738492
OMG THEY ARE BRINGING MURADIN IN HOTS
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>>162738492
>>162738618
actually i could see it being related to this skin
also i'm done dumping music files for now
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Does anyone know if they ever removed voice line from the game? Because I'm pretty sure that there is supposed to be a line for when Arthas kills Jaina, he says "you broke your promise" but it's nowhere to be found on Sounds of the storm
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>>162736023
what's 1:18 to 1:42 from?
pretty good but it doesn't sound like any WoW track I've ever heard of
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Looks like their budget no longer covers 16:9 aspect ratios.
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>>162738867
on the full.ogg soundtrack, that is
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>>162738860
Jaina confirmed for Lich Queen
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>>162738656
Is that a stitches ultralisk skin?!

!?!?!?
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>>162739173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ETowT2Rhr8
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What are the first impressions on the Dehaka and Diablo changes?
>>
Mine refuses to patch
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>>162739613
>Brushstalker (Trait)
>Cooldown increased from 40 to 50 seconds
LIKE THE TRAIT WASN'T NEAR USELESS ENOUGH
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>>162739596
well shit
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>>162739613
>Diablo
Looks absolutely insane at first, then you realize they really fucked up his black soulstone talents.

He'll be slightly better, but only if you're very very good at Diablo, and only if you were playing him as a solo tank both pre and post patch. I only know one master who was, so for the vast majority he's probably barely equal or worse.

>Dehaka
Full-blown fucking retarded. People are gonna bitch about 10 seconds (wowie) on his Z, but he is F U L L - B L O W N F U C K I N G R E T A R D E D with his talent changes. Like I have no idea why anyone would be picking a tank that isn't Dehaka.
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Oi senpaitachi
who's up for some customs 5v5 between /vg/ meemers on EU last night we were missing 3 people
the trashtalk potential is mesmerizing
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>>162739901
Did they remove the talent that allows for slam to stack to 2 charges?
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Q build is not very good.

Going to test W next time.
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>>162739901
What build would you go for Dehaka then?
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>>162738901
Fine by me, I play on 16:10 then monitor.
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>>162740057
The answer to that is always "depends on team comps/how the match is going/who the problems are". That goes double for Dehaka, who is now one of the most versatile tanks talent-wise in the entire game.
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>>162738492
>https://my.mixtape.moe/dzbmsk.ogg
It's for the muradin marauder skin
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>>162740030

Q build is good against heavy Frontline teams and high HP. You took the melee build against 5 spell damage heroes, you're a fucking downie.
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>>162740320
you mean to tell me he's good at adapting?
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>>162740379
Is also map dependant, boe is not a lanning map.
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>>162739173
It probably turned into the butcherlisk skin
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>wait my 10 min queue to play rag
>they don't connect
>sent back to the beginning of the 10 min queue

:)
>>
>playing new hero on launch day

Literally making me lol out loud

Is there a splash screen easter egg?
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>>162741215
guess
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>>162741106
>playing with a friend
>On oce
>literally 5 am with no one on
>double assassin pick
>1 min queues as rag/greymane
feels good man
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Reinstalled game
Still no Rag
feels bad man
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>>162741548
we from EU have to wait one more day
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>>162741548
tomorrow my eu comrade
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>>162741612
>>162741634
For real?? This is torture!
>>
>being a yuropoor
>>
>>162741806
yeah but at least im not living in the USA
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>>162741889
neither am i
checkmate, mate
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winter veil trailer
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>>162741949
Is there anything lunara can't do?
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>>162741949
C U T E
U
T
E
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>>162741949
why is lunara so perfect
why is gingerbread nazeebo so perfect
why is the hots department so fucking awful at animating, is this a sc engine thing?
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>>162741949
>those whisps

nightmare fuel
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>>162742314
>>162742231
>>162742134
Lunara fags gtfo
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>>162742487
i was literally about to post the exact same fucking thing
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>>162738860
I heard it a lot back when I actually played Arthas and Jaina was a top pick.
Made me feel so fucking bad.
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>>162742487
>>162742697
They dont look like merry-ghosts but decapitated night elves that are cursed to serve some evil master who humiliates them by forcing santa hats on them
jesus blizzard
>>
The more important question than useless warriors
is
Rhegar back in the game lads?
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>>162742980
He never left
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>>162742980
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>>162743049
So is rag a member of the new anti-specialist class?
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>>162743109
Rag and Diablo are new meta.
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>lose first coin turn in
>GG IT'S OVER TRASH PLAYERS IM AFK

fucking bronze stay out of my placements REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162742487
>>162742697
>>162742882
i don't see what you mean
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>quick memes
also Ragnaros is great
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>>162743726
>11 deaths
what
the
fuck

are you like bronze or something?
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>>162743845
>against suicide butcher and probably kerrigan on 40 minute tomb

not entirely unreasonable

>>162741949
>wisps

ahhh why
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>Symbiosis
>Primal Swarm

Blizzard you fucking idiots.
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>>162743845
Not that guy, but I had the honor to play with #51 and #21 GM in EU in unranked draft and they managed to feed 11 and 12 deaths on Diablo and Illidan respectively.
Strange things happen in this game
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>>162744136
>2 tanks both able to pull them off him
>not sitting back till those 2 engage
>2 tanks
>no reason to be up front ever before a fight starts
No it is not reasonable at all to die that many times with 2 tanks, A few deaths because of lack of healer due to 2 burst characters.
>>
>>162744210

To be fair, in GM circumstances those two heroes are bound to have high deaths in unorganized setting because they are priority targets. Illidan dies without constant support and Diablo has no escape, so going in and your team decides collectively to fuck off means you are toast.
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>>162744193

AOE vulnerable on a spammable cooldown? What's the problem xddd???
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>>162745342
I know this might sound weird and foreign to you but just walk away?
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>>162745930
>Just walk away from a team fight.

Also Drag and Dehaka has increased movement speed baseline now. Good luck everyone.
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>>162746196
>increased movement speed baseline
in and out of a bush for 1 second.
just use your evasion skill once and he will turn around.
also drag has a pathetic range.
unless he manages to flank you out of a bush he has no chance to catch you
>>
Which blizzard franchise has the best sluts and why is it diablo?
>>
>>162746585
if valeera is really one of the next heroes soon you'll take back that statement
>>
>>162746423
Yeah it would be a shame if he had a global or something that was great at that. Also like I said good luck running away during a team fight.
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>>162747153
>just pick him
>just ban him
>just walk away from him
>just stay away from the bushes
>just kill him before he does anything
>just CC him
>just kite him
>just heal his damage
>just play safe
>JUST
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>>162747153
just make him first ban and allow me to pick something more reliable.
like ETC
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What is the veredict on Ragnaros?
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>>162747451
>Implying ETC is better than Dehaka.

Built in Global. CC. Tanky as hell. Great pushing ability. At 16 can chase while invulnerable. Some of the best wave clear in the game.

ETC I think it's time you stepped down from your ladder and realize who the new king is.
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>>162747678
he's really I CAN'T PLAY HIM BECAUSE I'M FROM EU RRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162747678
get on the rag
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>>162747678
Fun as fuck and strong as hell.
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>>162747678
Several versatile builds and abilities.
Huge damage and sustain.
Molten Core is fun as fuck.
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>>162738492
Is Maraudin' Muradin getting his own home screen, like Ghost Kerrigan? Does that mean we only get one week of glorious Ragnaros greeting us every time you log in, after a month of "Together, we are...together..."??
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>>162748313

It'll probably be at least two weeks from now before they release something, considering how sizable an injection of content we just got.

>wouldn't be surprised if it was longer desu
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>>162748414
>seasonal elemental mounts

i wish they would do away with this color scheme

even the fucking wod glad gronnlings didn't look this shit
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>>162746585

>not war craft

Loling on the floor laughing mate
>>
>randomly disconnected off bnet during champion select
>completely fucking random internet works fine so it is bnet's fault
>have to do 3 games with leavers
>leaver matchmaking is a fucking ghost town
>literally waited 30 mins no match found

what the fucking cancer shit is this?
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What the fuck witch doc?
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Dude Ragnaros is fucking broke
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>>162749497
you're right about that
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Is there any reason to not pick lava wave?
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>>162749365
>3 games with leavers

did they change the system? used to just be able to queue a quick 5 minute brawl, which had a normal 1-3 min wait

>>162749640
probably not, haven't played him yet

the hammer lets you nearly 1-hit squishies while in your trait, though, from chromie levels of range
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>>162749640
If you hate fun yeah
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>>162749640
the only thing I can come up with is that if you are fighting between lanes to get a tribute or something you don't have an heroic if you choose lava wave
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>>162749830
Any idea how much damage it goes to knight/giant camps that are pushing? Seems like it might be useful for relieving pressure in an off-lane during an objective, or w/e.
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Only 9 more games to throw lads this season going to go for 0/10 placements. I got that sweet, sweet bronze portrait
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Does lava wave award experience if there is no one nearby the killed minions?
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>>162750149

You get experience if you or a summon gets the last hit on anything regardless of position, so yes.
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>>162750149
Yeah, at least it should. Last hitting still results in experience, regardless of distance, as I recall.

>azmodan Q to 1-shot another lane
>soaking two lanes simultaneously

Although there may be some spaghetti where it doesn't last hit the minions, and instead just instantly kills them. Dunno. Might test in a bit, on the off chance it doesn't.
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>>162750149
Tested on the PTR, yes it does.
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>>162750149
The way XP works in HoTS is if you get the last hit on it no matter how far away you are you get XP.
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>New hero is OP
>No easter egg

rate the patch out of 10
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How am i supposed to build new diablo?
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>>162750919
>get to see tanks other than bearded manlet, indestructidyke and guitar cow
>gingerbread skin
>lunara skin
>fun looking new hero, even if busted
>new hero doesn't spawn shit and turn invisible

feels somewhat comfy
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>all this fucking damage reduction lately
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Can someone please tell me how I am supposed to play Azmodan correctly?

Every time I pick him I get most siege damage, most exp contribution, but my team always flames and blames me for losing.
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>>162751713
azmodan does damage that can be healed very quickly if the teamfight doesn't happen within 5 seconds of landing your dunks.

Since he's usually soaking from far away, if your team happens to be caught in a 4v5 teamfight and have no disengage, then they will probably get bursted down and lose.

Azmodan functions best when your team plays the map and the teamfights happen to be longer than 20 seconds. since every 10 seconds you can throw a orb.
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>>162751713

>don't take red talent at 1
>don't touch W until you get mana reduction at 4
>ideally D minions that'll go uncontested, but don't hold for too long
>heroic choice depends, but if low mmr, qm or w/e i'd go invasion

he just dumpsters lanes if left uncontested with a w/e and invasion build, but gets shut down after a certain mmr. q/pool build is a little trickier, but offers a reasonable team fight presence, which is sorely lacks. You're more or less just a ball of health if you go w/e.
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hello guys my name is kobe

i play a lot of hots and i am pretty good at it

in fact i think i might be very good at it
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>>162751713
If you want to dunkster people, don't do it in the beginning of a teamfight. E some diving nigger and put that health pool to use.
Wait until a squishy is down to 60~ish % and then dunk while hitting as much other stuff as possible. A short, unexpected burst will cause a lot of panic and might make him retreat only to get chewed up by your team. Azmodan works with a lot of sustain which drags out teamfights, so you can throw more balls per fight. That thing is fantastic for catching someone fleeing, by the way, if you notice someone's retreating to heal up on a fountain, kill that shit.
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>>162752373
Get fucked nigger
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>sudden urge to play azmodan

fug. might just play only azmo on an account and see where i end up
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>>162747678
>Ragna "Every Role in the Fucking Game" Ros
>tank talents, burst talents, sustained damage talents, assloads of utility, great backbone for a team, two retarded ultimates and a complete unnecessary '"passive'" that makes fighting within 50 miles of a keep FUCKING R E T A R D E D
>self-sustain for no reason just slapped onto his kit

He is absolutely broken. And he'll stay that way, because he's broken through how well-rounded he is.
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>>162750919

early 2016
>new hero's model in the starting page
>he had multiple lines when clicked
>easter egg

mid 2016
>new hero's model in the starting page
>he had one line when clicked
>sometimes there was an easter egg

now
>new hero's model in the starting page
>does nothing when clicked
>never ever easter egg
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>>162752489
why are u mad
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>>162752615
Nah, there's room to nerf his damage a bit, so building for tankiness and chasing doesn't allow you to still hit that retardedly hard.
Like, I'm fine with full Q build being a massive bitchslapping cunt to any squishy.
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>>162752615
he feels like a Raid boss, to say the least
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>>162752889
Okay, but "high base damage" was literally none of things I listed.
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The new lvl 1 talent is crazy good.
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>you will never lay down after a long day of playing hots to a shortstack waifu who will love you no matter what

Why go on
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>>162753462
fuck...
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>>162753462
Wait, you don't?
Man, I'm so sorry.
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>>162752875
You're a dumb bitch that's why
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>>162754342
normie get out
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>>162677329
i think my game bugged?
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>>162754342

Not one that's 4'3
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>>162755271

Everyone gets it for this event, but you keep it forever if you do the 25 games
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>>162754342
how tall is yours?
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>Friendly Ragnaros didn't take Lava Wave on Braxis
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>>162755623
Roughly 20cm. We've been together since we were born and we love each other very much.
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>>162753462
I want to fuck jemma so that my average dick looks big in comparison to her body
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>>162756821

Clever, little worm
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>>162757058
>inplying she don't got a huge loosie cause she's an actually good looking midget
she gets more pipe than girls that look the same as her but are normal height i'd imagein
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>>162756279
>he doesnt know it does like half damage to zerg
>he doesnt know what the other ult even is if he thinks lava wave is ever viable

???
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has anybody gone 0-10 in placements yet
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>>162756279

Only good when you are losing.
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What are the current Axoltol rumored heroes?
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>>162741949
LUNARA

Much too cute
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>raynor's trait: 20% increased attack range
>ragnaros his trait: turn into a fucking raid boss with broken range and massive damage that will fuck everyone up
?
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>>162758472
Raynor also has +20% vision range.
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>>162758548
oh wait yeah my bad that makes is totally OK thx
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>>162758472
comparing people to raynor really isn't fair
dude is fucking so boring i can't even get him to level 5
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>8 kills
>58k damage
>210k siege damage
>32k XP contribution
>0 deaths

Am I best abathur north America?
>>
arms fury or prot on Varian

which one is generally best; in which scenarios should I use the others
>>
>>162759338
Always go protection, because your retarded team will need it :)
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>>162752615
same can be said about Thrall. And Rag is basically a copy of Thrall.
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>>162759338
fury is shit, yeah you can solo bosses if they ignore you for 30 second!

arms is good if they don't have a way to deal with colosus like aegis or divine shield

prot is good because they cant scape with taunt
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>>162759338
Arms is garbage your health gets reduced by too much so anyone can focus you and kill you too quickly if you roam you can do some pretty good plays - 6/10

Fury is his best spec you're sticky as shit with the right talents, you can jungle and roam like a beast you can be kited by certain characters without CS - 8/10

Prot is by far his worst spec however it will be the one you play the most, hes a terrible tank and everyone else can do what he can but better, His taunt is average at best and doesn't do enough damage with the current meta in ranked however like i said this will be the most played spec because if pick or show that you're playing varian you will be forced to solo tank in a meme team even in Diamond/master games. - 2/10


If you want to play Arms just play a better burst assassin like Zera, If you want to play Fury play Samuro if you're forced to tank just play Mura or Etc
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How the fuck do you stop teams from throwing the match and letting the enemy team win because they feel bad about having an early lead

This is the wrong fucking time to express 'sportsmanship' via coordinated feeding
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>>162760963
Don't abuse your team mates that is the only time that happens.
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>>162760963
>people don't know how to play with a lead
>people don't know how to play when behind
>people don't know how to play

i wish this was enough to keep shitters down in bronze and silver
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>don't take Life Leech, it's a trap talent

patch ain't even a day old and there's memes already.
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>>162746585
>implying warcraft doesn't win the slut award
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wtf i hate blizzard now
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How to be good with Tracer
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>>162759338

Fury is only good in Bronze and woof league games, Arms is hard but rewarding, prot makes you an invulnerable peel god but no damage.

Obviously none of the spec is ALWAYS good in a game about adapting to situations, but twin blades has a vastly higher pick rate because it's easy and most people are scrubs.
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>>162763003
Get someone to play Tassadar for you.
>>
>>162762923
that reminds me: faye has purple hair now :3c
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why does rag do so much damage? god, and he's hard to kill too
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>>162762923

Who cares. Don't like them don't watch.
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>>162762923
kinda qt desu, would stuff the boipucci
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>>162762923
>faye and oddish

i just feel physically sad whenever i see them

>>162763192
>muh assassin

curious to see his week 1 winrate
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>>162763289
Because faye and oddish are failures as men?
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>>162763192
>hard to kill

I just played against one as Tyrande and all it took was me landing arrow stun, and 1 nearby teammate and he was dead. Each time.
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>>162763402
no reason or anything, just feels draining to see them

>>162763429
isn't that all it takes to kill anything that isn't johanna though
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>>162763518
Yes, so anyone saying "Rag is hard to kill" is a retard.
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>>162762923
>ask if he's a trap a while back on stream
>immediately get timed out for 10 minutes
i hate him and all of his ilk
they can never take a joke and all they do is create safe spaces for themselves
>>
Do you guys still like Grubby?
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>>162763889
I do, he is a terrible Chromie player.
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>>162763889
no
he gets shit on by people in this general on the daily and someone obsessively shilled him here a few months back
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>>162763147
who the fuck is faye
>>162763205
no
>>162763246
kys
>>162763289
that latvian girl is the only and actual girl entertaining one that i've seen promoted by blizzard
>>162763871
was going to ask why he mentioned "his pronouns" since there are only two genders but figured i'd get banned instantly anyways so cba
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Friend~
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>>162763889
I don't really watch streams, but recall enjoying most of what I saw on his. Usually just find some quiet Korean on Azubu if I ever get the itch.

>>162764440
isn't she great
>>
Wait, so is Haunted Mines actually in the rotation now?
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>>162764125
>I WILL get mad about shit that doesn't affect me unless I purposely go out of my way to watch it

also dont bully oddish she is not for bullying
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>>162764672
>another fucking map
when does it end

rotation or the ability to blacklist when
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>>162763763
so by your admission, no hero is hard to kill? you are the bigger retard
>>
First time seeing this ult in action.

And what a sight it was.
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>>162714613
>5 levels ahead of enemy
How?
Even when my team is getting stopped i've never seen a team more than 3 levels down.
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>>162763889
>have That One Friend who always knows better than you and keeps telling you everything you play is shit and non-viable in Masters
>he worships Grubby
>can't watch his streams without getting 'nam flashbacks to shittalks after Unranked matches

>>162764802
how new are you
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>>162759338
Tank or Smash. Fury is shit.
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>>162764902
I've been on the giving end of a 6 level lead. Its fucking brutal.
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>all teammates dying to the goggles do nothing wave in qm

yeah fuck this im out
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Diablo is balanced guys
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>>162764125
Name of the Latvian grill?
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>>162765252
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>>162765327
HencyHeccu
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>>162764902
Not him, but had a game with a 4-5 level lead playing Xul on Infernal. All I did was alternate between mid and bot/top, depending. Them getting wiped on the first objective was all it took.

>>162764928
not sure what it has to do with anything but i was here for the map in its first incarnation

>nam flashbacks
like, the average response to anything in mobas

>get into draft
>guy hovers rexxar and says he'll afk if anybody is toxic
>wtf lmao
>dies within the first 30 seconds of the game
>somebody pings him
>"muted and reported"
>bear man runs into towers saying toxic league players are destroying the game
>ends 0-20

i carry on but what sets these people off
>>
>>162764125
>that latvian girl is the only and actual girl entertaining one that i've seen promoted by blizzard

Rentaro and Selenity are grills.
>>
>>162764756
>she
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>there are bads IN THIS VERY THREAD that think forced fifty is real
>>
>Everyone in QM always wants to be epic bursts mages.
>Pick Naz and superstition.

Witch Doctor? This Doctor.
>>
>>162765684
I generally get 3 to 4 when i'm really tryharding. (It doesn't stay at 4 for long tho, so high end of 3 level advantage).
>>
So how's Diablo now? Solo tank, or nah?
>>
>>162765786
>want to play rag
>800s queue
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>>162762923
Holy fuck i knew it! i thought it was a dude got banned from chat during the championships at blizzcon for asking.
>>
I think i've only ever seen trans gamers on Blizz games.
Oddish, Faye and Scarlett.

>watch some casting
>dude says scarlett is transitioning
>the entire chat starts spamming the lenny face
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>>162765951
Ye, anything beyond 3-4 isn't terribly common, although I've seen it happen.
>>162766194
>tune into tournament thing
>is that a dude in a dress
>twitch chat being relentless
>oh
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>>162766067
>he didn't get to try and queue for rag at 6am in the morning Straya time
>Some queues were 300 seconds
>others were 2400
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>>162765789

>Samuro
>Varian
>Tychus
>Tracer
>every game

Nah
>>
Is Stitches any good or is he a meme hero?

How has Blizzard not been done for plaigerism over this?
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>>162766453
Not entirely useless if you're able to consistently hook squishies, ideally with somebody to follow-up on them with CC/damage, because the rest of Patchwerks kit is fucking garbage.
>plaigerism
pardon
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>>162766453
extreme meme
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>>162766318
Like it was a serious question i had no idea and the chat was bring purged when anyone would say a thing about it.
>>162766453
I love him back in pre season Azmo and Stitches got me to rank 1 from 40 after bad placements in a few days, i land a shitload of hooks tho.
>hook healer or their main damage
>gorge
>blink behind wall
>watch their team panic to try and save him and get aced
>>
>>162766673
>>162766667
I've got 7000g and don't know what to get.

Is Sylvanas good?
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>>162766453
>pudge is an based on a warcraft abomination
>stitches is a warcraft abomination
What's there to plagiarize?
Valve had to change Invoker's name
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>>162766796
Stitches probably isn't your guy in this case.

>sylvanas
Yeah, and was recently reduced. Anything else that tickles your fancy?
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EU here, where is Ragnaros + New Brawl?

WTF BLIZZ
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>>162767036
>yuro

you already know the answer
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>>162767080
but every other patch has landed by now :(
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Apocalypse is so boring. Lightnibg Breath is one of the coolest ults.

Fuck.
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>>162759754
Okay, but Thrall doesn't have Ragnaros's passive or ultimates even half as retarded as either of Rag's.

You can nerf the ults or argue semantics, but Thrall still wouldn't have Ragnaros's passive.
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>>162766056
see >>162765252
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>>162766414
Is that what Silver is like?

>>162766453
Hook or bust. I've actually seen terrible hookers just rely on Gorge to catch out retards.
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>>162768253
>silver

I think they were talking about Quick Match.
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>>162768452
If he was talking about quick match it would be
>Ragnaros
>Tracer
>Nova
>zera
>Aba
>>
hm, i wonder what'd happen if you did placements on an account with zero prior pvp games (leveled exclusively vs ai)

>>162768551
ye that sounds about right, tychus being the only one really out of place in that fellows list
>>
So how is the artanis rework now that people have had a chance to try it?
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>>162768764
I was actually thinking about making an account with just Johanna on it called Deus Vult might be a good idea to do.
>>
>>162765786
you prolly got carried by a god like diablo, 100% guaranteed. I bet he got MVP more than half the games, too.
>>
>rag
>dahaka
>varian
>diablo
>malfurion

every goddamn game. every moba gets rotating overpowered shit
>>
>>162768827
Q E combo is hilarious

but overall I think he is much weaker.
>>
>>162768989
He was feeding so much that our last chen had to threaten him with a report less than a minute into the game. Very sad.
>>
if ur not at least d5 ur probably shit at this game, it didn't occur to me how horrible people in plat and below were until I played with randoms to get my team league rewards.
>>
>>162769693
you must be retarded because they just significantly changed the ranking system and now anything below what was diamond 2 is now plat. Diamond got shrunk in half so most diamond players are in plat now, including yourself.
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Next Overwatch hero: D.Va
Next Diablo hero: Malthael
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>>162769693
>d5

Nah, not while you can be dropped at Diamond III fresh out of placements. I don't recall beginning to consistently encounter competent individuals until Diamond I or II.

I've met a few pretty okay players between Platinum and Diamond, but it can be quite the mixed bag, at least relative to League.

>>162769767
yeye need to get playing ranked again, excited to see how the ranks feel now

>>162770732
>not lucio
Okay, cool. Would've preferred Reinhardt, but still pretty cool.
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>>162770732
next warcraft hero: a female goblin
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>>162770907
muh
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>corki never
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>>162770732
Mike?
>>
ded thred
ded gaem
trying to make hots an esport was a mistek
>>
Hopefully now pubs will realise that BL is usually the better heroic. And that Pyro is usually the better heroic.
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>>162741949
So are Blizzard for fucking real with these prices or what

For the price of the classic bundle I could literally go buy Overwatch and play that instead, and as far as I can tell there's no other way to buy what's in it

The price of the new bundle is ridiculous too but at least you can buy the skin you want individually and not have to pay the whole $30
>>
>>162773427
>>
>>162770732
next warcraft hero: archimonde
next overwatch hero: reinhardt
next diablo hero: the druid
next blizzard classic hero: blackthorne
next map: rock 'n roll racing
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>>162773646
>BL lets people do 10x more damage
>If coordinated, your group can instakill someone if focused
>Phoenix does what, 1 DPS
>Pyro is an artillery AoE nuke
lamoing

I understand that the average skill-level here is mediocre, which is fine. But hopefully now pubs (including you lot) will realise.
>>
>>162773829
>ignoring the billion things that can stop pyro
>>
>>162773609
>still can't buy hots skins with wow gold

:(

>>162773829
bloodlust is underrated in my opinion

pyroblast is just a little bit too all-in, because a simple disjoint or immunity negates it entirely

BUTTTTTT, most people waste their counters to it, especially up until a certain mmr (joannas in diamond still using E before butcher brands, etc)
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>>162773829
you forgot your face anon
>>
that mines map is supposed to be in rotation, right? 5 hours and i didn't play it once. i thought new maps had increased chance of being played too
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>>162773892
>ignoring the billion things that pyro is good for
>ignoring people can literally walk out of phoenix

>>162773942
Or, you can just wait to use Pyro? You don't need to use it instantly.
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>>162774209
>waiting to use pyro

Yeah, that's what I was saying. It isn't nearly as bad as made out to be, just because nobody uses/expects it, and uses their abilities that counter it unwittingly, at least for a while.

>>162774208
>increased chances
I thought that was just the Gears of War event. What'd they change about the new Haunted Mines, anyways? Haven't kept up to date.
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>>162773609
You could buy Overwatch, a game that has microtransactions despite costing 40 bucks.
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Anyone else have the new goblin mount despite not having the event done?
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>>162774419
Boss doesn't spawn where it last died and the mines themselves have a balanced layout of undead with the big one being in the middle so that whereever you come from you have the same amount of travel time regarding getting to it
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>>162775278
Yes. I'm pretty sure everybody has it, but only for the duration of the event. Play/win 25 games before the event ends to "keep" it.

>>162775284
Ahh, interesting.
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>>162775278
Apparently event is to keep forever.
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>>162775278
doing the event only makes it permanent. you get a message about it.
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Festive goblin is being retired forever after this, which is why they are doing this event to allow people to keep it.
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>>162775237
To Overmeme's credit, you can at least earn the majority of its cosmetics without paying more than the initial entry fee.
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>>162774419
Man, LoL has such amazing art these days. Too bad the game is trash.
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>>162775720
Says the HOTS player
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>>162775593
It'd be sort of nice to have a way to earn cosmetics/skins without spending $.

>>162775720
if league is trash then what on earth is hots lmao
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>>162775968
Her model is great though. She's easily the cutest girl in the game.
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>>162775720
still better than this cuck shit with a skill floor so low it might as well be marketed to pre-schoolers
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>>162776407
Yeah, her model, sure.
I recall her in-game face replacing the splash in some tournament, actually. That was great.
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>>162776371
>if league is trash then what on earth is hots lmao
A fun and casual alternative to Dota with a meme esports scene that doesn't need to exist.

>>162776354
I knew this was coming.

>>162776531
You don't play HotS because it's a deep game, you play it because it's different from what's out there, and it's quick and fun.

LoL is just a shallower Dota.
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>>162776616
She looks like some wee wuz or some shit
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>>162776720
>hoturd going full damage control mode
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>>162776616
>lips
why

>>162776889
i mean he isn't wrong, is he

do people actually play hots instead of league/dota because they think it's better, more complex, or whatever

seems like it's just string-free, light-hearted fun
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>>162777008
gameplay mechanics from 1997 and a bloated hero roster does not a good game make. doto and lel are literally 100% shit.
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>>162777251
>gameplay mechanics
because last hitting is archaic right
>bloasted roster
because more heroes is bad right

sry i love hots and it'll continue to be my "main" game, but there's a reason nobody is jumping ship to play it
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>>162777008

yeah according to hardcore HotS fanboys

laning = bad
last hitting = bad
items = bad
individual skill and contributions mattering = bad

hots gets rid of all those pesky things standing in the way of dumb baby slapfight skirmishes, or "deeply satisfying strategic fights where teamwork really matters"

>l-l-league shill!

haven't played LoL in a year
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>>162777398
>100+ literal whos, 50 of whom are unplayable because of old ass kit designs

never thought I'd see someone defend lel's weakest point, but I guess there has to be mongs like that
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>>162776616
Why is HotS splash art so completely shit
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>>162777450
ok
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>hoturds getting this defensive about a primitive beat em up that requires no skill and only serves as a transitional game before getting into real MOBAs
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>>162777696
Blizzard doesn't want you waifuing anyone but the characters they want you to.
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>>162777251
Not to mention the fact that I personally feel like the majority of their playerbases bit the bait otherwise known as "E-sports", which is just marketing. But this also skews their views on it in that they feel the more bloated the roster is, or the more messy and convoluted stats/item stats in the sense of counters and whatnot are, the better the game is because "its competitive!!!!" and all that shit.

Something I genuinely like about HotS is that they went into it knowing full well they just wanted to make something that was flat out fast, fun, and easily approachable, with "E-sports" clearly being something of an afterthought, as they didn't have any plans or direction for the LONGEST time in regards to that stuff.

I remember back in Alpha "E-sports" was getting pushed onto the game by the community and streamers and all that shit, and in an interview, because Dustin was asked about it a few times, his wording was something akin to like "We love E-sports, but please don't push this so soon. The game is still very much in development...".
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Double Ragnaros is true suffering. Good lord the games go on for an eternity.
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>>162777781
>still trying to troll this hard because people aren't biting your b8 enough.
M8, these threads aren't fast enough to really give a fuck.
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>>162777830
I mean Li Ming is a literal 10/10, so apparently it's working.
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Wow, that new hots hero sure looks COOL and EDGY! Just what the literal ten year olds who play this need to sate their ADHD, a fire demon with meme voice lines and another stupid gimmick nobody will ever use. No wonder Riot is pulling big numbers and Blizzard is leaking players out its ass.
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>>162777450
>laning, last hitting items
these things being removed isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they didn't replace them with anything. You can literally just sit under tower and soak experience if you're too fucking incompetent or scared.

>people in masters still missing soak in offlanes in an attempt to get first blood in 5v5 aram mid because muh pros do it
>only somewhere between diamond and masters do people finally start using merc camps prior to objectives, not just mindlessly
i just wish the average skill level wasn't so fucking low jesus christ why can't shit players be in bronze silver and gold in this game everybody apparently deserves plat or diamond

>>162777883
nobody is trolling lmao
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>>162777906
You mostly have fan artists to thank for that, though.
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>>162777840
At least he's kind of garbage and doesn't meaningfully affect games too much. Oh, he can stop a lane push once every minute and a half? Big deal.

Now Varian in every game, that was suffering.
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>>162778123
At my Rank, the enemy Rag never uses his trait and the enemy team runs in lane to avoid lava.

still lost that game.
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>>162777932
because people who actually got gud at this game moved on to games requiring a bit more skill, like LoL. then they got put in their place there (silver) and killed themselves because even the worst LoL player on Earth could still steamroll the best hotos team
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>>162778123
idgaf how overpowered a hero is. I thought Varian and Samuro release still had fun qm.

But having a ragnaros on each team is utter hell.
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Can't I just like HotS because the time investment for a game is less than half of LoL or DotA's
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>>162778389
Yeah, that's sort of how it feels. Things got better between high Diamond and Master, but it's just easier to walk away from each League game thinking "I could've played that so much better".

>>162778523
I do enjoy the 12-20 minute games. It's not to not have things drag on for 40+, at least sometimes.
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>>162778523
No because I'm allowed to tell you exactly what you should and shouldn't like according to my personal standards, because I mean more than you. Sure, we're all just a bunch piles of shit that this Earth can't wait to squeeze out of it's ass to make room for the next sack of shit that means just as little as you do, but I'm more important than you, so just listen to me.

Also respond to this because I'm starving for attention. Fucking HotS baby.
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>>162778523
you're allowed to be as much of a casual as you want.
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>>162778745
>nice to not have games drag on for 40

Bloody hell I can't type tonight.
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>>162778745
>I have ADHD
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diablo is balanced guys
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>>162779081
No, but I don't always want to sit down for a game of chess, as much as I'd prefer to.

having to spend IP on runes is also bullshit
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>Artanis nerfs
fucking why
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What did they do to Artanis?
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Ragnaros is fun as fuck. Jesus christ. I love him so much.
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>>162724568
I've won game singlehandedly based on well timed gorges and barrels. Sometimes your team can't kill shit and you have to drag an enemy into towers for you to have a chance.
>>162766453
He's one of the worst based on win/play rate alone. The problem is that he doesn't have enough damage or ways to stop the enemy team from killing yours even if the enemy team can't ever kill him, they can just ignore him. He's not that bad against a team full of casters though since dampen magic makes him nigh unkillable.
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Ragnaros is underpowered.
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>>162780107
Can't have shield as often and lost shield overcharge. You can't have ability damage reduction + reduced cooldown on charge either anymore. 80% more shield at 25% health IS very good but with the increased cooldown and the fact that you don't get as much cooldown reduction anymore he no longer is an unstoppable machine at later levels. Plus seeing you have to be below 25% life for the 80% shield if they nuke you before you hit 25% and you get the pathetic shield instead you're just dead.
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>>162780431
I mean, him and Anub'arak got reworks to make them anti-mage characters and then they buffed AAers so much that mage characters don't matter any more.

Oh man, you hooked that aa-ing melee assassin out of position, I guess they lose now.
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>>162779954
>wanting the original incarnation of that hero to be good
literally why

he was fucking useless if against a team with kiting potential and/or cc
and an unkillable 1v4 god if you (somehow) don't have any of the above

also didn't bring tradition "tank" tools to the table, even if he still...doesn't? i guess they embraced his off-tank or bruiser role
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>>162780552
Honestly he should have been a Warrior. He doesn't have the damage of an Assassin and his Molten Core ability is too easy to just walk the fuck away from and wait until it goes away.
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Can we have Haunted memes back?
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>>162781173
Really? But his range on Molten is crazy long, the only problem is vision at that point.

I dunno, maybe it is because at my mmr, people just walk through meteor, but his damage seems pretty crazy to me. His sustain is pretty bad and I've been having to hearth all the time for mana, but I've never felt I didn't have enough damage.

Especially given the meteor quest.
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>yfw when using rag's trait on the enemy keep you just destroyed
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>it's an episode of abathur getting ahold of one of the nukes on warhead junction
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>>162780830
And now he can't do anything well at all.
bravo
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>>162782395
>artanis is more useless than he was before
>which hopefully means he'll be played even less, too

god bless. his kit was a mistake
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>patch is installed
>LUL CANT PLAY BECAUSE BATTLE NET IS DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE EVEN THOUGH IT ACTUALLY ISN'T
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>>162777840

>enemy rag uses lava wave top
>friendly rag uses lava wave bot

wow no one pushes ever
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>>162782583
I agree but my quick meme win rate with him says otherwise. Plus it really is the best feeling in the world when you just can't be killed and get top damage etc. Now he's worse than trash.
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>>162781173

>1.2k DPS
>not enough damage
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>kill enemy ragnaros with meme wave
truly the superior ragnaros
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has anybody successfully 0-10'd their placements

curious to hear results
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Ragnaros already bored me, next hero when and who?
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Ugh, so frustrating. I met someone nice who added me after the game, which was great, because I still haven't completed the nexus challenge.

But the next two games, they regularly go AFK to go let out the dog or get distracted by their new kitten.

Like, there has to be a balance between like "not gonna yell at me for being out of position" and "literally doesn't care about the outcome of the game".
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>>162784425
Yeah, it's just difficult to find.
>somewhat serious
>similar skill leve
>doesn't blow up
In any game, honestly.
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anyone else annoyed that you have to go to the shop to enter training mode? I just wanted to practice Chromies ult a bit so I don't job the timing in game but I have to "try her" in shop to get access to her ult right away.
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its been doing this for an hour now
>tfw will never play ragnaros
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>>162785554
tried restarting computer etc.? Even reinstalling the whole game if you're that desperate
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>>162785554
>europe

lmao
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>>162785830
damn son why you gotta be so mean
its a really offensive and rude thing to say
its really hurting my feelings
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>>162786014
His parents lost their lives to Europeans. He was just triggered, anon. Don't take it personally.
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>>162786102
i think its even worse than that
i think its the fact that he is actually descended from europeans, and he doesn't even realise it.

unless of course hes a nigger and then he should just kill himself cause it cant get any worse desu.
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>kill someone as diablo
>"I'LL SEE YOU IN HELL!"
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So how do you buy new diablo?
I feel like all the options can be good
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>>162787327
*build
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>>162787257
The best part about Diablo being reworked is that you'll actually see him now, and get to hear all of his yelling and shit talking..
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blizz servers shitting the bed.
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>yfw you hear DIE INSECT!
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A duo Q or 3Q can match with a 5Q
Who thought that was a good idea?
What is the point of doing a TL if you're not a 5 stack?
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so, ragnaros

what will his week 1 winrate look like
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>>162788130
>take 2 steps towards the left of the lane 8 seconds later
>100% unscathed
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>>162788645
47%
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>>162788171
QM's matchmaking is all fucked up just for that reason. 5-stacks can face whoever. 4-5 stacks get full control over their comp, and everyone else has to just deal with it and fight an uphill battle so long as they maintain voice comms, which they very likely are.
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>>162788645
53%
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>>162788651
People always find a way, Anon.

>>162788826
Mhm. Voice is a pretty dumb advantage considering that you can't falter individually and lose lane horribly.
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>>162782312
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reminder that a Greymane without a Tyrael or Uther is the most bullyable hero in the game
do your part
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Jesus Christ, Heroic Difficulty is fucking broken, why doesn't anybody pick this talent?
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>>162791185
>sulfuras smash
>heroic difficulty
>kill non-tank from several screens away while in trait
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I'm trying not to buy Regnaros until he's 10k.

But it hurts. I'm already getting Zul'jin Day 1, I don't want to spend more gold than I need to.
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>>162791185
>heroic difficulty doesn't give Ragnaros the ability to emerge out of a keep and walk on two legs
one job
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>>162791431
That would've really been something. Probably too much work for a talent that might not even be good.

Or too good and nerfed into oblivion. :)
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Rag's up on EU in 5 hours, right?
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>>162791431
>Heroic difficulty doesn't give Ragnaros the ability to be undefeated for several weeks
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>>162791712
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>>162791712
lol

arthas is crying in a corner with his plastic sword
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Show how does Ragnaros fair?
Is lava lane his best heroic?
What is his go to talents?
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>>162792890
lava wave is fucking retarded and gets 2 charges at 20
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>>162792990
Like it's broken retarded or just not worth using?
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>>162792890
Lava wave only kinda works in braxis hold, sulfuraas smash fucking destroy people in the center.

>>162793076
Not worth using.
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>>162793112
>sulfuraas smash fucking destroy people in the center.
Except you're not hitting non-retarded people in the center except people that will die anyway.
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>>162793112

It works well on maps where you spend a good amount of time laning and not roaming in limbo between lanes.You can effectively delete an entire lane of push that the enemy has on a lane with it, which is great for Curse, Warhead, Spider, Blackheart, etc.
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>>162793228
>what is cc?
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>>162793449
>except people that will die anyway
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>>162793486
>ccing someone means they die
Oh god I wish that were true.

I keep ending up needing to take Lava Wave beacuse I've been ending up with the most downsy teams all day.
I mean nova zera stacks that refuse to roam or aim, sylvs that can't hold lane, at least one person disconnects each game
I haven't even got my win of the day.
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>>162791712
kek
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>heroic difficulty increases ult damage by 50%

Fuck, Smash hits so hard with Heroic Difficulty. I bet wave hits like a 747 with it up too. I'll have to test.
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>>162793449
>get hit by literally anything that hinders your ability to move
>all ten skillshots from the other team are immediately launched at your face
>after a certain mmr of course
>>162791712
lmao
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Sulfuras Smash is basically a glorified Tyrande stun in terms of timing and since I can hit those, it's been of decent value from what I've played so far.
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page 10 wake up
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Does his Molten Core ability increase the damage of the ult or only his basics.

As far as the tooltip it states nothing about not increasing the ultimate damage?
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Braxis as Raggy <3
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>>162782986
>1.2k DPS

More like 0.52k DPS unless you perfectly land a meteor on someone who continues to run in the same direction as the meteor.

How would you be getting more damage out of Ragnaros on an unmoving target than 550 DPS? What sort of build do you use for that?
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bliz pls.
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>>162797378
You're gonna go on a losing streak now.
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>>162797030
Not him but in practice mode I chose his blastwave build by Oxygen and he does 800dpa. Don't know where that anon is getting 1.2
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>play Dehaka
>Cursed Hallow
>go into match with Rag and Diablo
>take all keeps before 10 minutes
>win with a 5 level lead
>in the end they were just running out and standing there, letting us kill them

So this is what it feels like to crush someone's dreams.
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For chromie buffs is Timewalker's pursuit worth getting or is the flat damage buffs of deep breathing and sandblast simply better?
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>>162798043
It really depends how good you are with chromie. The flat damage quests are probably better if you haven't played her much and probably better a lot of the time, but timewalker's pursuit is kind of a preference that lets you hit people over walls with the vision when you start learning how to hit her abilities better.
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Thinking about hots around this time last year, with the winter even and sugartits sylvanas.
You think the game is now better, worse or the same?
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>>162799420
>>162798043
I only use timewalkers if they have a nova or zeratul in their group. Otherwise I think pure damage is better
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>>162799504
Game feels the same to me, desu.
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>get shit on in placements
>get carried by skill bonus
>still have a negative winrate in diamond 2
Grandmaster with negative winrate?
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>>162797564
s'ok im still winning.
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>>162796879
Can't you test it in try mode?
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>>162800452
TIME TO INVESTIGATE
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>>162800312
how does one into vikings without nagging their team to build a roaming comp
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>>162796879
>>162800658
>>162800679
Just tested it in try mode
At level 25 sulfuras smash not in molten core does 1500 damage in the center.
During molten core it does 2300 damage in center and it's circle radius is increased
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>>162800452
It does deal 50% more damage

That is pretty big if you are playing on a pleb loser team and you get this

Can pretty much turn a fight in base.
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>>162800679
i dunno people, people in diamond just play really well with vikings, and I carry at 16 with olaf stun.
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>>162800961
ah, okay
guess i just haven't bumped into any good vikings players yet, or maybe the few were just unfortunate in having uncooperative teammates

>been too spooked to try playing
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tfw too scared to play vikings with randoms because i'm bad at them
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>>162802159
tfw too intelligent to play assfaggot games and just shitpost on this general and saving blizzard slut lewds
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>>162802234
xD!
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>>162802297
>he unironically tortures himself in a team game while having zero friends

why
if you have friends, why not

but just why
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Haunted Mines is Still absolute garbage , the golems do barely any damage to structures and just have a bunch of health
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>>162802719
>hots
>friends

question mark
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>>162802719
It's hard as it is since most people are incredibly egotistical and take themselves way too seriously. A lot of these people do lots of dumb shit, can't own up to it then get super emo when you bring it up.

Can't banter with them. Can't help them.
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>>162802737
Which is fine. They can tank shit.
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>>162802719
I'm not that guy you respond to, I'm saying xD because of the absolutely pre-teen response you gave.
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>>162802913
>tfw too intelligent to not get (you)s from butthurt assfaggot fanboys
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Does a molten core Ragnaros benefit from a reinforce structure Tassadar?
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>>162797569

Yeah the blastwave build looks really nice. A double blastwave that gives you shields, speed, slows enemies, and hits twice for double damage is real nice. I was using a blastwave build in try mode and the aoe, heals, and shields that Rag brings are pretty sweet.

AoE damage is really really great in team fights. Doing ability damage in melee is also very cool. His trait is really neat and he has pretty sick heroics. His abilities open up a lot of skillful play.

Yet my single target Rag's damage was 570-500 DPS on the sitting dummy (not using meteor). It seems like he's about the aoe damage, and that's okay, he's just not a single target brutal damage duelist like the Butcher. Unless I'm missing something big.
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>>162797569
>Blastwave by Oxygen

For one, I called that build out as being pretty ridiculous on day 1 on the PTR, like 4? Threads back now.

Two, any other retard could have figured it out, and did. Attributing a build to a single person is absurd.

Yes I'm triggered, that shit is always cringeworthy.
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ragnaros ruined this game
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>>162805415
>running WITH the meteors instead of out of them
>not looking at the minimap to avoid fire
>not looking at the minimap to tell where Molten Core is
>not just bursting him down anyway

Pretty sure you're just shit.
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>>162805521
pretty sure rag ruined the game
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>>162805589
pretty sure you're just shit
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>>162805415
KT is the only hero who runed this game, as he's the one that kickstarted all of this essential burst Mage bullshit. It's been downhill ever since him as far as Assassins go.
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>>162805923
Bit silly to say since most heroes the past year+ have been assassin. It's like, no shit some are going to be retarded and other roles aren't. Just statistics.
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>>162805923
Not Li Ming for mobility creep?
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>>162806224
I thought of her, but I feel like KT set the stage for her.
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ARTANIS IS WEAK NOW
PLS HELP MY NUMBER ONE MEMEPICK IS NO LONGER THE UNKILLABLE MEMETANK HE ONCE WAS
WTF BLIZZARD
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>>162805327
>>162804165
Focusing on blast wave is shit if the enemy has any range. They just kite you and you're dead
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>>162805923
hm i wonder how well samuro, li-ming, kael'thas and tracer have sold relative to like dehaka medivh and rexxar

>>162806224
>literally a better flash on a 5 sec cd
brilliant idea, this
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>Finally get 10k
>Buy fucking Abathur

Lost the first game but I got most damage at least. Should you go full meme splitpush build on haunted mines?
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>>162807335
I feel like Dehaka is likely catching on after "pros saying hes good!!!!!", so his sales are likely going up, as people are prone to bandwagoning shit.
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>>162807462
Yeah, true. Regardless of winrate it just seems like Kael'thas or Li-Ming would've sold better.
I've always liked Dehaka. He seemed like a pretty good addition to the roster. Glad to see him getting some attention, even if it's a bit much.

>>162807461
Uh, seems like it'd depend on what you have on your team, and whether you should talent into supporting allies.

and you bought aba you've already gone full meme
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>>162807665
I should explain further

I don't play with more than one friend and it's QM, our comp had at least 3 assassins
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>>162807780
>clone jaina
>delete enemy team
was this not an option

the split-push is usually pretty easily stopped, at least as i recall. definitely experience with builds, though
and can't abathur solo giant camps, especially after 16

getting the abathur itch now send help
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>>162807889
nah, it was Illidan/Tychus/Ragnaros, we had no CC at all and their team had like Gul'dan and shit
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>>162808024
>illidan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQxxiftWIcs
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>>162808074
Oh yeah no trust me I did the thing but it died pretty quick most of the time.
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Rag seems like he'd be pretty nice on an Illidan comp thanks to Blast Wave.
Doesn't feel like an assassin in the slightest though.
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get ready for ragnaros meteor nerf
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>>162809185
JUST WALK SIDEWAYS NIGGA
OR THROUGH IT NIGGA
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>>162809185
Their fucking fault they continue to give melee heroes better ranged abilities than some ranged heroes.
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>>162809379
>meteor has more range than jainas attacks
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Any way to look at a costumes bio without viewing it on the store?
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>destroy enemy fort they're trying to defend
>take it over as they think they're winning the fight and overextend
>BY FIRE, BE PURGED!
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>second pick is varian
>want to go bruiser
>nono go tank I assassin
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>>162809886
In fairness Jaina has the shortest range of any ranged assassin, her cone is basically melee range
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>>162808832

Unfortunately it isn't quite as easy as that. Your blast wave will always shield you, if you take that talent, not the target. If you talent for a second free blast wave explosion that too targets you, not the other ally you cast it on.

It's sort of a strange way to do it and unintuitive. Maybe they will change that.
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>>162810456
Her q with talent and blizzard with talent are both insane.
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>all these chromies in HL
>mfw more little girls to bully
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>want to replay WoW
>realize it's a mmo and you have to socialize with others
>will never learn my own mistakrs and just blame it on gear, trinkets, lag and teammates
>regret my idea

>want to try out hots
>realize it's an assfaggot where you have to communicate with others
>will never learn from my mistakes and blame others instead
>regret my idea

feels bad man
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>tfw you want to play teamleague but sit in queue for 800sec+ and get nothing
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>>162814408
nobody plays 3 man thats why
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>>162814548
probably. Ill try again sometime this afternoon, maybe more people playing then.
Anyone want to Team League in EU? Around diamond level would be good
>>
>>162813432

Maybe you'd prefer Chivalry dueling, Dark Souls PVP, Overwatch 1v1, a number of FPS, Starcraft 2, or any number of fighting games?
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>>162813432
Play heartstone, that way you can blame the RNG
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>>162813432
Go back to the perfection that is warcraft 3
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i need ragnaros now
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>play uther
>win a game
NANI?!
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>yfw playing new diablo

should a hero be allowed to have such power ?
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I keep getting Siege Abathurs. I get that Siege Aba does work. And hell, I've definitely won losing games off the back of a Siege Abathur.

But even so, if you have enough games as Aba to have a tint, surely you know you don't need to hat Monstrosity to keep it alive, right? It is plenty tanky.

I get hatting it to kill people who underestimate the locusts and try to 1v1 it with no AOE, but don't just hat it for attacking a keep It can attack a keep by itself.

Do you of ya'll do this? Is there some other reason for doing it that I don't get?
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>>162820043
get it to max stacks so that it equals two heroes and go demolish shit
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Is Ragnaros OP?
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>>162820043
It has been said countless times already in this thread but evolution is better than monstrosity even for siege purposes.
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>>162805923
>he thinks burst damage is bad
sounds like you just wanted to play the most flacid moba in existence

Release KT was probably the single funnest hero release ever, they should make every hero like that.
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>>162820985
Release Ming was pretty bad too.
You'd be down a tower before minion wave even got there.
Pretty much the sole reason Healing Fountains have a shield on them,.
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>>162821225
you now remember Ess of Johan
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>>162821284
>enemy team standing in minion wave
>d>w>w
>TEAM KILL
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>>162820524
no. Tho when you get combo'd in the lava wave you might think he is
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>>162774209
>ignoring people can literally walk out of phoenix
oh my fucking god who uses phoenix for damage?

its designed for area denial you fucktard like not letting the enemy channel the tribute in cursed hollow you imbecile borderline bronzie retard.
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>>162793819
>take over the enemy's destroyed fort as we push their core
>Lil' Rag on the other team starts running for his life
>hit him dead on with a Heroic Difficulty Sulfuras Smash just as he gets to the main fountain barrier

there was lava splattered everywhere
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>be rag
>pick lava wave
>always get MVP
Is this the hero for the baddies so they won't feel too bad when they lose?
>>
How do I git gud with Tyrande, boys?
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>>162823668
Fap to her harder
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>play a lot
>get worse and worse with every season
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>>162823668
Is it even possible?
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>>162823668
>find diablo
>do stun wombo combo
>cri because burst is dead
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Unannounced skin sighted in a bot game boys
Mecha muradin
Had flames come out of a spacemarine jumppack thing when he used dwarf toss
Did my best to try and get some pics mid game

t.ESOTERiC ~<3
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>>162825846
>unannunced
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>>162820043
>abathur
>taking monstrosity ever
Just no.
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>>162802737
The only garbage part about the Haunted Mines is my fucking teammates_________.
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>>162825846
>unannounced
kill yourself phil

https://youtu.be/q_1vmDm7uF4?t=204
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>>162826001
>>162826316
Sorry boys I didnt watch that vid
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>>162823668
Really just need to play her a lot, it's important to be able to follow up on stuns too and know timing for when to launch your stun say if a diablo does a shadow charge and flip to know if he has been flipping immediately (or someone is playing with you) to launch your stun behind the diablo so he flips the target into an immediate stun. Or when to stun after an etc slide + knockback combo. Or saving your vauln for kill targets, or even her combo of stun + vauln + owl immediately, or when is the best to hit her stun.

Tyrande is just one of those heroes that's hard to play well, and has a lot of synergy with other characters that you just get good with her with experience rather than anything someone can really tell you in a short post.
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>>162826524
Autists will get upset over anything
>>
Is Ragnaros worth making a copy of with Abathur?
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>>162826792
>Really just need to play her a lot, it's important to be able to follow up on stuns too and know timing for when to launch your stun say if a diablo does a shadow charge and flip to know if he has been flipping immediately (or someone is playing with you) to launch your stun behind the diablo so he flips the target into an immediate stun

not him but elementary school children form better sentences than this
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>>162827525
You can use Molten core once copied

It's good
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>>162827525
All those abilities with the recklessness of being expendable? It's great
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>>162813432

Play Hearthstone. Nothing but you and the RNG. And your opponents literally CANNOT talk to you. Statistics are the only thing that prove whether you're not shit or dog shit.
>>
>>162827724
I just tried, it wouldn't let me use the trait
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>>162828431
>Statistics are the only thing that prove whether you're not shit or dog shit.
That is if you have all the good cards and can make meta decks, otherwise statistics mean nothing.
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sup kids I bring you the latest meme
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>>162828735
wew
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>>162828735
damn, that some unfunny shit right there
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>>162828630

Oh yeah I always forget how brutal it can be as f2p for the first few months
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Just another day of playing hots and getting fools silenced
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>be Butcher vs Murky
>have full stacks before level 7
>kill everyone at least twice every TF
>run out of mana and die to poke because everyone might as well be Murky with early game death timers
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>>162828942
>first few months
You mean years, if you don't play 8 hours a day
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>>162828952
>kill everyone at least twice every TF
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>>162828735
10/10 amazing
tl;dr
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>>162828942
If you don't want to spend at least 400-500 on the standard set and adventures, you are going to have to be playing for about 250+ days that is just getting the dailies done and brawl free packs. HS right now is insanely brutal for new players.
>>
>can't use ragnaros trait with abathur copy
Literally useless hero to make a copy of
>>
>>162829803
This was off the idea that you get 50g on average from dailies and you win at 9 games (18 games a day assuming 50/50 winrate) to get the 30g from winning gold to get around 20k to buy 200 packs just from the standard set, not buying wings of adventures.

Hearthstone is definitely the most stingy of online TCGs.
>>
>>162829803

I could play Hearthstone for 2 weeks on a new account and craft card for card Pirate Warrior.
>>
>>162829082
2 minute team fights on towers of doom
>>
>>162830732
No you couldn't you need patches and leeroy
>>
>>162820631
>>162826013
I mean, I know that. But I can tell people what to do in game, but not after they've already picked ult. Some people are hellbent on that thing.

>>162820391
What? There's a monstro quest?
>>
>assasin is now the best lane pusher in the game
Nice roles you have there, blizz
>>
>>162831619
>There's a monstro quest
It gets bigger and deals more damage whenever minions around it die
>>
>>162830145
Is this blizzard admitting that his trait is basically just a second ult?
>>
>>162831835
He does seem to do a lot of damage to structures. I don't know if that is just perception or what. Molten Core can't push lane really.
>>
>>162832184
Literally one talent exists for it, hidden in level 20.
To be fair, it IS absurdly powerful.
>>
>>162832147
Man, now I get it. That also explains why defending against a hatted mons seems disproportionally harder.

Still wish they wouldn't hat the fuck.
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>>162832184
You can't use Cho's trait when you clone him, is it a ult?
>>
>>162828735
>banners are all "every spec"

You literally only ever take AP banner if you're arms and winning, and MS banner only if you're Fury and winning.
>>
>>162832436
you can't use something that doesn't exist
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will they ever buff Zagara?
she is a complete joke and the worst specialist by far.
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>>162828735
>nigger smash
>I'll never forgive you blizzard
I haven't laughed so hard in months holy shit thanks.
>>
>>162833926
They should increase her basic attack damage by 20% and make hydralisk more durable. All she really needs to not lose trades that often.
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>>162833926
How does that make sense with stuff like Gazlowe and co?
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>>162834921
Syvlanas is too strong desu senpai, the other specialists need to be brought closer to her level.

and FUCKING REMOVE THE ZOMBIE GRAPHIC JESUS CHRIST BLIZZARD WHY IS IT OKAY TO LET THE ENEMY SEE WHERE NAZEEBO PLACES HIS ZOMBIES HNOLY SHIT IM SO FUCKING MAD
>>
>>162834921
Gazlowe is more useful than her.
His turrets can zone and slow, he does camps fast and can wombo combo by himself.
Zagara is just a slow single target dps who gets outpushed by assassins.
>>
How come Ragnaros wields Sulfuras one-handed? What does he use his other hand for?
>>
>>162835265
he uses it to shoot his hot lava all over his enemies
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>>162835153
Maybe your build is different than mine or something, but Maw gives crazy teamfight utility and I never felt her abilities are single talent DPS. Sure, Lisk is, but her other two abilities attack all over. The splash on banelings is huge and the little guys do AOE on entering. Plus, his basics hit three targets.

I dunno. I'll admit she's not like she once was, but so many other specialists seem worse or more niche.
>>
>march of the murlocs is a bad ult
t. turbo bronze
>>
>>162835872
It seems fine on like shrines or bhb, but I don't get it otherwise. The slow is the important part, right? It is otherwise just a bad Hyperion?
>>
>still losing full points when someone on your team is a bot the whole game
why is this still happening?
>>
>>162833994
>lol he said the word mom told me not to say ECKS DEE FROGFACE
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>>162836429
That would make everyone gradually move up unless people stopped disconnecting. Since there are bots on both sides.
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>>162835972
>huge AOE Lunara DoT that you can cast from any position because Murky's death literally doesn't matter
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>>162836728
on a 100s cd
with unreliable targeting, a negligible slow and that can be avoided easily just by walking away as soon as you see the cast
when you could take a free kill every 50s
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>>162837170
Octograb is a free .25 kill for the enemy now, and has been for months. All it does is disable you from casting for a maximum of half a second before something kills you and ends it. If you take Octograb, you might as well not be taking any ult at all.
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>early game as Rag
>doing a good deal better than the enemy Rag
>things take a turn when the team cant stop focusing Chen instead of their healer
>other team gets a big lead on us
>we start getting stomped in fights
>lose
>"you have less damage than their Rag, you're a bad Rag"
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>>162837485
You use it in 1v1 scenarios to kill people. Can't cancel if you are grabbing them.
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>>162837170
If you remain alive for your whole Octo-grab in a proper teamfight you genuinely are playing in bronze.
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>>162838023
>you use it to kill bronze players
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>>162837647
>Play Rag
>Take the non-retard ultimate
>Everyone takes the retard ultimate
>Get criticized everytime
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>>162836626
Not true, league gives you lose prevention and everyone doesn't gradually move up. Unless you are suggesting that the hots servers are massively unstable.
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>>162836626
>reduced point loss for losing with a bot
>reduced point gain for winning against a bot

Alternatively offer remakes, and/or dodge people from draft who fail to lock in picks/bans.
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>>162838209
It really looked better on paper but in practice it reads "clear one minion wave, maybe two, every 100 seconds"
If you don't spam it you cna get some additional value out of it if you wait for a merc push to clear.

Anyway naything Ragnaros does is overshadowed by how absolutely bullshit Dehaka is right now.
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>>162839246
>>162839246
>>162839246
new bread
migrate whenever
>>
>>162828735
Not only is it not funny but you are also giving horrible advice
>>
So what is the worst talent in the game? something that you should feel bad for picking it

I think Dehaka's quest at level 1:
>Each time Dehaka collects 50 Essence, his Brushstalker Movement Speed bonus is permanently increased by 1%, up to 10%.

Over:
Enduring Swarm: While active, Dark Swarm reduces damage taken from Spells by 40%.
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>>162678312
I'm in diamond last season and was gm the season before and I never get matched with anyone under diamond. Did this actually happen or are you one of those guys who blames matchmaking for how bad you are?
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