Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

9 wins 1 loss on ragnaros

people who say he is not op are stupid

I don't like looking at sad KT :^(

>Do some qm
>Dehaka on my team just burrows to the middle of enemy team
First match of the new patch and I already dislike it

When go meteor build? when go sulfaras? when go blast wave?
bls resbond

>enemy rag possesses a fort and thinks he's gonna kick my ass
>I'm leoric and laugh as I demolish him

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>>162840506
>mfw i'm tychus and have my D ready for Molten Core

>Ragnaros can kill an entire Zerg wave by himself with Lava Wave and Molten Core

Literally how is this fair?

>playing abathur
>spend a couple minutes setting the lane pushing hard
>hat someone fighting the enemy heroes
>suddenly die
>rag used his ulti on the lane
>all your hard work gone with one click

>>162840791
He's broken on every map, but yeah he makes the objective in that pretty pointless.

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>>162840920
pls respond

>>162841083
(you)

>>162840842
If you can't avoid such a telegraphed move you have no business playing abathur

>>162841275
>have lane pushed up to enemy keep
>just as you hat someone to help them, rag casts his shit
>you literally don't have enough time to drop the hat and move out of the way

>>162841083
That talent was better when it was a quest for 15% flat movement speed increase

Also taking less damage from abilities isn't as relevant if you're fighting team comps with Illidan/valla/raynor/ and the like

Also I can't think of an utterly worthless and unusable talent, just talents that happen to be on the same level as really consistently useful talents but I don't play this game much I'm sure there's more than a few talents that are just trash tier

>>162841463
You can sit to the side of it before hand you nerd

>>162841463
>outplaying yourself

If you're that close to the keep/core then just sit further away from the lanes, perhaps?

They'll gut Lava Wave in the coming days, anyways.

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Daily reminder that literally everything about Rag is viable

>>162840882
Is he broken? To be fair I haven't played him myself yet, so I'm pretty ignorant of his side of things. Maybe not OP but it seems like a little much.
Azmodan can really push forts but he's kind of garbage in fights. Xul is fantastic at pushing and sets up kills but he can't really afford to be in melee combat that often. Ragnaros gets tons of health in combat like Thrall and Cho'gall, he has a speed-up that also does a good chunk of damage, and instead of chain lightning his meteor forces them to eat tons of damage running away or stay and get beat on by his team.

So he's excellent in fights but he's also the best (counter)pusher in the whole game and his ultimate is pretty low key so if you're in the middle of a fight you might not notice it. You can't defend your forts if the wave is coming or you'll eat tons of damage, and you can't push into his base without eating tons of damage. Especially once he hits 20 and can throw waves out once a minute.
Molten Core is super cool too, especially since it boosts sulfuras' range so much, but if it's going to negate objective damage it shouldn't be 100% risk free. Make it like longboat where if you take a stand and kill him dead he's stunned for 3 seconds or gets reduced to 1hp. He's just too good at everything for him to have 2 really great ultimates and then 180 seconds for a third ult that's better than the old Odin.

>>162842427
It's fucking fantastic
I can pick whatever build I want and still have fun with a fair chance of winning the match
And the enemy team is always down a member because their Rag is retarded

Ragnaros is fucking BROKEN

>>162844618
Break this *grabs dick*
BY FIRE BE PURGED

>>162844618
why
t. haven't played since patch hit

>>162844918
Because he's too well-rounded.

Also seems like he has the potential to stall the shit out of games, for better or worse.

>>162844918
Like Thrall, he's an alrounder, except he gets more damage and less sustain in exchange.
Like, a lot of damage, regardless of which build you go for.

His Trait is absolutely retarded good and I -love- it, as someone who hasn't even bought Rag seeing a teammate just punish two nigs who thought they could safely push is fun.

His ults are both great and Lava Wave will -completely- clear a lane and in <=gold leagues your idiot enemies will die to "announced with a loud noise, a huge blinking minimap icon, and a gigantic visual effect 1k DPS wave of DOOM" without so much as maybe bothering to step out of the way.

So yeah, he's broken because people are retarded, he's new so counterplay has to be explored first, and he's probably a bit overtuned like new heroes usually are.

What hero do I pick if I want to minimize my risk of losing cuz all I want to do is autistically farm lanes?
In other words, it would be better to participate in team fights, but all I want to do is play pve. Which hero is best for that?

>>162845610
Azmodan

>>162845610
the lost vikings

>>162845610
Raynor

>>162845610
>Xul
>Zagara
>Azmodan
>Sylvanas
>Gazlowe
>The Lost Vikings

Finding a game as a duoqueue takes ages, what the fuck is going on?

>>162845809

Also this, if you don't mind grouping up for the fights around 16 and 20, or at least the latter.

oh does rags trait allow him to soak sky temple and blackheart objective damage

if so how much, haven't played yet

>>162846268
No clue how much, but he does absorb it

>ragnaros is first ban
>nobody bans samuro anymore
>nobody picks samuro anymore
why does it always take another hero release for the shitters to notice?
Rag will be nerfed to shit in the coming weeks too.

>>162846268
4k at Level 1, up to 8k/12k at level 20 if you pick the Heroic Difficulty Talent.

On the other hand, BHB and Sky Temple deal a -fuckton- of damage, so you're probably only gonna block somewhere from 4-6 shots.

>>162844918
He's kind of like Thrall in that he's good at literally everything and has multiple builds for any situation. It's very difficult to counterpick him.

What I feel makes him broken is his ridiculous defense potential; Molten Core and Lava Wave will shut down almost any push attempt as long as you're not like three levels behind. I've won games by basically denying the enemy of any good pushes and stalling.

Molten Core in general is just insane, especially if you pick Heroic Difficulty at 20 (which I feel you should), because you can use it offensively too and bully the enemy team back. Being able to do that every 50 seconds is absurd.

>>162845928
not enough 3-mans in the queue
we all should be going into TL as 3 or 5 from now on

>>162846682
Honestly they should have just rebraded him as a defensive type Specialist (it would be the first), and focus on doing cool stuff with Molten Core, Lava Wave, and general anti siege gameplay

>>162846646
On the one hand it's only enough to save you from a couple shots, especially combining the laser's damage over time and the naturally diminishing health, but on the other it's a pretty gigantic defensive boost for one team to just shrug off 3 out of 12 cannon shots every time the objective comes up. Or you know the damage is all done to Ragnaros so even the base version of MC can totally protect a keep from a direct hit on warhead junction.

>>162846708
just spent 12 mins in queue as duo

that is not okay

How do you get the snowflake mount? is it in that one bundle only? do I have do buy this years specific skins or can I just buy any skin right now?

>>162847381
Only available by buying the Lunara/Nazeebo bundle.

>>162847381
This years bundle only.
It's for special snowflakes, after all.

>snowflake mount isn't a gold mount
I ain't spending €40 on a fucking mount.

>>162846682
>>162845398
Maybe that's why I am enjoying him so much. Thrall was always fun to play. I felt I could do anything I wanted.

Rag has so many little moments of shit going just right, whether it is timing a wave or shooting blind meteors or getting your quest complete in moments from a Samuro.

All these little feelgood moments.

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>>162847741
>still can't buy hots shit with wow gold

>>162847741
Itll come to the shop without bundle at one point or another. probably 9.99

For Ragnaros, what is the difference between E and Q build and when should I pick one over the other? I feel like Q is better in general but I'm not sure.

>>162847741
>>162848670
>wasting money on vanity items
buy heroes you really want when on sale.
waste gold on master skins
dont get new hero right at release. he will be first ban anyway until he is """balanced"""

>go aba
>clean all camps with montrosity
>tell teammates to go and capture them
>they don't do it
>enemy morales goes around capturing the camps
>manage to capture one before morales got there
>team bitches on how no one captured camps
????????

>>162849412
People aren't used to high level abathur play. They expect you to be sitting in fountain and assume you've been hatting people when they don't see any sine of abathur on the map for 40 seconds at a time.

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

>>162849412
>picking montrosity

>>162849412
>>go aba
thanks for the loss asshole

>>162849412
>montrosity
no thanks, I'll pass

>>162849412
>locked in a team fight
>It's 4x5 every time, starting to get tired of the opening engagments
>No clones, no hats on anyone
>"Guys one of you should peel off to make it a 3x5 to get these camps I spent the last 8 minutes grabbing by myself!"
>"lol my xp gain is fine for aba X D"
>"I haven't died lol X D"

kys

>>162849412
>montrosity
dude montrosity lmao XD

>>162850670
>8 minutes
?????
Stack a 40 monstrosity and it cleans shit faster than 3 heroes together

>>162849412
>le slug meme
>afk all game

>>162849412
I'm just replying because everyone else is doing it

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>That one Chromie who PERFECTLY predicts all of your movements, even in the dark
>Always know exactly which shots you are going to dodge and which ones you aren't
>If she thinks you are going to try to dodge, she always knows EXACTLY where you're going to dodge to
>Always hits every shot at max range, so you can never catch her

This is a fucking nightmare

>>162851038
I love Chromie when I predict the movement of enemies properly
I fucking hate Chromie when I never land my hits

>>162850670
>it's another "teammates break themselves on the five-man clump instead of getting objectives, camps and pushing" episode
why must you do these things
im not even an abathur player im an azmo main

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HOW THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING DEAF?
I haven't been hit by a single Lava Wave yet, but every fucking time enemy Rag uses it, at least on of my teammates gets globaled. It has a sound notification, it's visible through fog of war, it's marked on the minimap. And the fuckers still stand in lava. HOW?!?!

>play aba again
>top is doing 1v2
>manages to half bar a lili
>she goes into the bush that was full of mines
>she ded
feelsgood lelo

>>162852214
People stand in fire to this day in wow

>>162848978
E is superior unless you're playing with/against a comp that makes diving really hard

>>162852214
I mean, like, you can make it up to somewhere in Platinum or Diamond without even looking at the minimap.
The skill level of the average hots player is pretty fucking low desu

>>162852579
lmao

>tracer/zeratul/nova tries to rotate
>loses 60% of their health going from mid to bot
>either feeds free kill to laner or recalls
slug can be fun

Ragnaros is a GOD on Tomb

These brawls last too fucking long for me to give a shit about whatever free thing I can get, fuck I can barely stand playing one match of this shit.

>>162853715
Brawls in Hots and Overwatch are garbage sadly. instead of fast paced fun things its a dragged-out snoozefest

>>162854414
ghost protocol was fast and fun
this one just drags on forever and ever

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PAUL SHALL BURN

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RRREEEEEEEEEEE

I got placed in silver today and spent 18 hours of playing with Jackass bronze noobs and now I'm stuck in bronze 1
What do?

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>>162856645
>placed silver
>dropped to bronze
>in hots

what's it like

is it fun

>>162856965
make a new account and do quick match

>>162857080
Yeah, the MMR calibrates pretty quickly, especially if you win the first ten in a row. Sucky.

>wonder if i can drop from mid-high plat to bronze in placements this season hm

>play against and with a couple of pros
>it gets streamed
>when you do good and even get mvp

>>162857371
>hots
>pros
;^)

>>162857371
>trying to get from rank 5 to 1 in preseason
>queue into a zeratul and falstad that seem good
>nvm falstad died to abathur hat on minions
>falstad e'd into a fort and died
>check afterwards
>it's fan and kure

zz i just wanted the dumb portrait

>>162856210
too soon

hm quick match and unranked mmr doesn't have any affect on placements if you played ranked before, right

>>162857371
>get grubby
>pick zeratul
>they counterpick hard
>proceed to get raped
jesus that felt bad

>>162848978
just go Q build if you're bad with meteor

>buy ragnaros
>play it in QM
>high stats, always better than the ragnaros in front of me
>carry the game
>people matched with me are all retarded
>after three games ask a guy what is his rank
>silver
>check all the players of the game
>they got a portrait for being silver or gold during the last season
>I was diamond 1 during the previous season
What the hell. Is this just because I play ragnaros or... ?

>>162856965
It's like a hell or mental asylum you can't escape

>>162859098
>playing low level hero in qm

Doesn't this lower the mmr of those you play with/against?

>>162845610
Every specialist.

>>162857371
>>162857550
>>162858293
>play with mewn
>shittalk him
>play against mewn
>win in 7 minutes on cursed hollow

>>162859213
kek

>>162859475
I wish I could feel this feel. Shame I dont play on burger servers

>>162859764
Neither do I. I'm EU and had those two games with him here.

>>162859674
I could've sworn it was something they did, or at least suggested doing a while ago. Just places you against worse players when first playing a hero, or below a certain hero level, or something.

never really tested because i mean like unranked/qm, and all my heroes are 5+

>>162859475
lmao nice

Don't tell me Ragnaros doesn't have "DIE, INSECT!" line in the game

>>162859213
>>162859986
you're right, I think they have done that, I remember now.
But still, going from Diamond to silver is a bit too much even when I got ragnaros lvl 6...
I wonder if it's not also because of the number of people playing ragnaros.

>>162860537
I'm pretty sure thats what he says when the enemy Rag uses his lava wave

>>162839856
Sorry I was playing him for the first time

>>162860870
>>162859986
No source or any statistical data to show this at all. Why does /hotsg/ try to excuse and defend the shit match-making all of the time? Even in the useless trap that us HL, GM can be matched with and/or against Bronze. Just goes to show rank means and affects very little.

>>162861268
Yeah, I'll poke around for the source now. Keep in mind this is just Quick Match, and possibly Unranked Draft, where matchmaking rules are probably already loosened.

>>162860870
>amount of people playing rag

Might play a part in it, ye.

>>162861268
I've never heard of it before, either. Hero level means nothing outside of time spent. I've seen numerous 'master' heroes that are awful. Like genuinely terrible at that hero. Such as a Tracer that didn't know you can manually reload as her.

Even a few level 20s that do literally the stupidest shit that makes you think they're intentionally feeding.

Pretty sure it's just a troll on here that's either delusional or making shit up.

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>>162861631
>hero level

Yep, got Abathur up to 12 now, I think. All I've ever done is Vs. AI for the 600 and 800 gold daily. Hat somebody then alt-tab.

And I wasn't trolling about the "low hero level places you against lower mmr players", it's just something that I heard a long while ago. Recently played against a top 10 GM in a Quick Match on some account with <30 games played.

>forget everything i said about it pls i cannot find sauce am probably retarded

>when you sanct a 4man twillight dream

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>>162861268
Found it.

>>162863560
Seems extremely vague at best, and it's from heroesnexus.

Need an actual blue post that details.

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>>162863262
>When malfurion realize tyrael sanct his twilight dream

which diablo slut is the best?

>All these Rags
>They actually think they can 1v1 me as Alarak

Seriously though every time I've done the level 1 poke dance with a Rag they've tried to go in because of the self heal on q.

>>162864089
Ming for abusing.
Valla for love.

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>>162864089
u tell me

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>>162864160
>be uther and diablo against rag/auriel/nova
>rag thinks hes hot shit and gets near the towers
>diablo flips him against the wall and we both bodyblock him from escaping
>tfw we raped rag against a wall

>>162864338
>rag thinks he's hot shit
:^)

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Classic Xul when?

>>162864810
Fenix Dragoon when

new hero teaser when

>>162857371
>Play against a couple "pros" and their friend
>Play Rexxar
>Win and get MVP
>Their friend whispers me and says he's played with me before and I was an amazing Rexxar
>They invite me to party and the guy sends me a friend request

Felt good up until that point. I can't stand people, I don't want friends, and I don't want to play with anybody. Always puts me on edge when people do that party+friend bullshit, I hate it.

>pick rag+sylv on towers
>take a fort
>lava wave another lane as sylv rotates
>take a fort
>group and push to try and take the last fort
>if some niggas try to retake one of the forts just molten core it and fuck their ass
This hero is so good and is gonna make Sylv so much more of a cancerpick on ToD.

>>162865157
Sound like a shitter that's lying about being good. Sounds like you got abused, they invited you to abuse you more.

>>162865157
>play game
>receive nice whisper afterwards
>get friend request

this triggers the social anxiety i play anonymous online games to avoid triggering .-.

>>162863618
That's a transcription of a heroes panel from blizzcon. They go into much more explicit detail in the actual panel. Search heroes "state of the game" panel at blizzcon, they talk about it in there.

I really wish they wouldn't do the season change on the same day as a MAJOR patch.
>1st placement match destroyed by a piece of shit who picked Dehaka even though he had no idea how to play it
>2nd placement match ruined by a shitter playing Ragnaros who never touched a melee assassin in his life
>got called a nigger in draft chat since major patches attract the fucking retards who haven't been playing in ages and their silence expired
hurray for the hots community

>>162866168
nigger

>>162866168
>doing placements on patch day
you asked for it

>>162864810
if you want it so bad why not post in on leddit? Posting it here wont make it happen

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>>162848670
Nope. They're not releasing Winter Veil stuff separately, apart from the newest (this year's) WV skins. Next year those same skins and the mount will ONLY be available as a bundle and not separately anymore, and we get new shit instead.

To summarize:
>This year
>WV Lunara
>Gingerdread Nazeebo
>bundle
>old stuff as a bundle

>Next year
>new skin 1
>new skin 2
>skin 1 + 2 + something else bundle
>WVL & GD Naz & flake bundle
>even older bundle

Snowflake will never be sold separately.

>>162866168
>not waiting 1-2 weeks, before playing ranked, when a new season starts

you brought this upon yourself

Friendly reminder that you can safely dodge placements matches without penalty.

You'll just have to play 1+ Quick Match, Unranked Draft or Brawl matches.

:3c

Why does Rehgar's lightning shield talents feel so underwhelming. The fact that lightning bond doesnt make your shield talented too just hurts so much of its strength.

>>162866630

God damn it.

I just wish they'd offer some way to get skins without paying $, like that Hextech Crafting system LeL has.

>>162867249
That would be retardedly OP.
The shield talents are great if you're not the solo support and you have something like Diablo or Johanna on the team.

They're niche, but can be great.

I've never seen a 4-man premade that wasn't composed of bronze subhuman slugs.

What gives?

>>162867249
It doesn't matter if the shield is untalented. That talent has 2 functions: 1. to help you PvE faster on BHB and 2. to give you a huge early game damage boost. You can pick that and watch Diablo melt at lvl 1 if you're hitting him with both.

Requesting the Chogall / Abathur "holy trinity" image
Pls

>>162867812
>>162868187
>pick that talent
>laugh at Murky as he melts instantly when hit by both

>>162867946
I think Johanna would actually be beautiful if not for that shaved head

>>162868472
same

>>162867249
With that talent, you clear MUCH faster, as it also works on your totem. The fact that the mana return talent went form enemy Heroes to just enemies, but it much more useful for that. It also opens up the possibility of using it on objectives like Infernal Shrines or Mines or something, without losing mana in the end, as you're getting it back.

>>162868472
>>162868538
Do not sexualize the holy warriors.

>>162868167
>friends have interest in game because promo
>queue 4-5 stack qm
>win 40 games in a row or something just because we're in voice and I can direct people around
>they all get bored and go back to league
>"""master""" quick match mmr


idk about the people who queue with randoms from general chat tho that's just weird

>>162867812
>>162868187
It just seems like taking JUST lightning bond is the best choice then the rest in healing wave. Double the dps seems to be the best I could get out of it.

>>162868567
>The fact that the mana return talent went form enemy Heroes to just enemies, but it much more useful for that.

MADE it much more useful for that.***

No idea where "but" came from.

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>>162867946
i made something with hots models awhile ago

>>162866376
Nobody gives a shit either way, so here is the preferred spot of the two.

I also wouldn't post the idea without having the means of sketching it up or something, to help accentuate what I envision it as. But, maybe I will, who knows.

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>>162868889
oh my

bless you people and all the work that you do

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1-3 so far

What do you guys think about the new Dehaka?

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>>162869342

I think they went a tad overboard with buffs. He'll probably see tuning within the week. Hopefully Diablo overshadows him, though.

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>Hurray, it's patch day, time to play some unranked draft!!!
>this happens
what the fuck
it's as if everyone suddenly went RETARDED

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>>162869806
>0 kills
>murky
>jaina
>morales
>murky

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>>162869806

>start placements
>second pick on my team is nova
>on brexit holdout
>team captain bans cho and murky
>enemy team gets ragnaros first pick
ez dodge

>>162870195
>no penalty for dodging placements

at least somebody at blizzard has a heart

is it still something retarded like -600 for dodging an actual draft

>>162870265
yep

now is 1-6

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>>162870405
>you lose three times as many points for dodging than legitimately losing
i love this game but goddamn it lmao why

>>162870487
godspeed anon

>>162868472
>>162868538
thirded. I want to punch the nigger at Blizzard who keeps giving people this shitty haircut, first Johanna, now Sombra, who is next to be ruined?

>>162870928
I was able to safely dodge the 7th lose.

I bet they remove the ability to soak from Lava Wave. It isn't exactly OP, it's just that he might gain a little too much out of it, and I feel like the exp soaking is going to be the first thing to go.

>>162868705
isn't it still capped at returning 40 mana though (after spending 60 to cast it)?

>>162872009
lava wave is going to be dropped as soon the fucking inbred retards playing this game figure out how easy to dodge it is

>low damage
>classified as an assassin
Ragnaros needs a title change

>>162872175
Quite a few people said during PTR he should be a specialist. But, Blizz' has a hard-on for "m-muh assassin!" this year.

>>162872284
Well his damage is fucking trash

>All these Rags using Lava Wave pre-emptively for fights, expecting it to do anything
>All these retards ignoring Lava Wave and dying by being run over by it while trying to run away
Do people just not know how Rag works? Do they not have minimaps? What the fuck is going on?

>>162872484
Rag' just high-lights shitters. Samuro was similar, too. All of the,
>x is OP!
Just confirms it.

Meteor? Side-step or walk towards it.
Lava wave? Literally do the same thing as Meteor.

Too hard for majority of people. Read the forums and rebbit. All of the,
>r-r-r-rag is op! ;_;
Is amusing. And no I don't play Rag' so I'm not bias or some shit for him.

>>162872772
>Samuro was similar, too.
xd

>>162872070
It is, but that's 20 mana after mana returns, plus the glove you're getting from the wave. It's overall mana conservation if you're going to be soaking/clearing like that. Which, you have to osmetimes, because people are fucking stupid.

>>162872175
I've seen Rag easily do 200.000 damage in a game. Everything he does is AOE. He deals damage by pretty much existing.

I think a big problem is people don't spam the shit out of his trait and only use it like 2 or 3 times a match because now isn't the perfect time or some shit.

>>162873036
>>>>>>>was
reading is hard, i know.

>>162872772
Samuro is cancer tho

>>162872772
>hero has 60-65%+ winrate on first day
>lmao git gud

>>162873379
>something that happens to most heroes when they're new
>SEE HE'S OP!
:^)

>>162873379
These are people who said Zarya was fine when her win rate was like 80%.

>>162872772
his level 20 heroic mode talent is fucking retarded, and YOU'RE fucking retarded for not even mentioning it

fuck off you retard you can do 2200+ damage on a target from 2 km away, and it's AoE

>>162873325
>Playing Sky Temple
>Enemy Rag uses Molten Core erry time to contest our shrines if a team member isnt there
>Shrine's tiny size forces us to either back off, risking losing shots, or just eat his shitload of AoE damage
>Ally Rag never uses Molten Core except to defend the base
>Does it maybe twice, amounts to nothing both times
reeeeeeeee
Its situations like these where I want to play the hero JUST to show people how to do it right. Its by watching other people doing what shouldnt be done that I learn best how to play someone right.

>>162873505
Just walk away, anon.

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>>162873505

>>162873438
>most heroes

lmao what
Literally only the op heroes are like that.
Not even that guy.
Like the only new heroes that got up that high were samuro and rag. The vast majority were 55 or lower.

>>162873505
>level 20 talent makes something stronger
y'don't say

>>162873650
Zarya started at 36% was buffed the next day and hit 80%.

Have 11k, which hero(es) should I buy?

>>162873438
>on-release xul, kael'thas, li-ming, tracer, samuro and post-hotfix zarya
xd
>>162873505
just don't get hit by it hehe

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Holy shit, I've been away for a long time and come back to find the Deputy Valla skin. Why the fuck was I not notified of this midriff sooner?

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>>162873757
>All heroes that got nerfed like crazy.

You trying to prove he needs a nerf or something?

>>162873707
That's because she got that insane buff right after her release. Then she got nerfed a couple times after that.

I don't think there's been literally any hero that's been released at 55%+ winrate and not been nerfed. The majority of them release way lower than that.

>>162873509
I'm a newfag trying to learn how to Rag, enlighten me on how to best use Molten Core.
I've mostly been using it really offensively on enemy structures.

>>162873848

Quality skin. Easily one of the best.

>>162874008
What's the CD? Shouldn't it be up for every major fight over a structure?

>>162874008
>Is it off cooldown.
>Can I do some damage her.
>Use it.

It's that simple. Just think of it as a second ult. People hold onto to it because they think it's only useful if they are pushing. It's not.

A lot of the objectives can be contested by Boss Rag.

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>Ragnaros, the literal Lord of Fire
>his trait doesn't give him at least a weak "holy fire"esque AoE burn aura

D R O P P E D
R
O
P
P
E
D

>>162874063
It's 100 seconds. He basically has 2 ults.

>>162874063
The CD is only 100 secs. Now that I think about it, its pretty much Odin, but for free, and is actually a second life, and has a lot more versatility, and hits like a truck.
Having that as a passive is pretty fucking ridiculous. It doesnt even matter that you cant move, your range is half a lane.

>>162873325
Siege damage is not hero damage

>>162874289
I know it's not. I've seen Rag do 200,000 hero damage. He shits out damage. Everything he does is AOE. Stop being shit with him.

I think Rag's blast wave need a visual/audio change to feel more impactful.
Right now it feels really underwhelming even when it's doing good damage.

>>162874239
>>162874229

Wow, that's hilarious. I wonder how hard they're going to hit him, because right now he just shits damage.

>>162874506
All they can really do is touch his damage, because all he does is damage and everything he does differently is based on his damage. I could see Blast Wave getting a damage nerf, since its more for the move speed, and shouldnt really be a potent nuke. Meteor just does a shit ton of damage and can just melt people, so thats probably getting hit. Empower Sulfuras could probably go a little lower, to reduce the burst and his sustain some more. Any nerfs to those should also impract Molten Core's abilities... so yea, just reduce his damage.

>>162873848
It's even got new animations. She does a line dance thing and twirls her guns around and shit.

It's great.

>>162874239
Its range is insane too. He literally solos the zerg wave pretty quick on braxis making it useless, had to play a 40 minute game there because we kept winning the shrines but the waves were just obliterated too quick, the objective was literally pointless.

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>Rag is so good people are overlooking Dehaka.

My boy isn't getting touched next patch is he?

>>162874749
Yeah, yeah. Numbers stuff. CD increased from X to Y, make top talents less strong, damage from 150 to 120, etc.

>>162874937

Isn't Diablo the lucky one this patch? Haven't played yet, but he looked insane from in the notes, not that Dehaka was lookin' too rough.

>>162874937
He is just as good as he was before. I don't think blizz will nerf it for a while.

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Bets boys

>>162875193
composition-wise, red will win easily.

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>play on american server with a friend
>some guy calls me a nigger
>i tell him to shut up and play, there's no doubt that everything i do, I do better than him...
>i play the reported for racism :-) card
>he goes bananas
>says he'll kill me
topkek

>>162875393
>thinks the FBI tip line isn't going to investigate his ass for sending in stupid shit

>>162875069
Dehaka is even tankier, got a baseline speed buff whenever he globals and got an aoe vulnerable talent at lvl 13. Dehaka was really good before the change, he's insane now.

>>162875127
I hope not. He's fucking insane right now and the people I face are idiots that let me get him.

>>162875069
>>162874937
Dehaka is the one that got buffed the most. Diablo is mostly the same, just stronger--he is good. Dehaka however went from good to borderline overpowered. Noobs (most players) shy away from hook heroes so he'll be sleeper OP for a long time.

>>162874365
Prove it faggot. I can reach those numbers easily with a chromie and I don't believe for a second ragnaros can

>>162864089
Valla for hardcore vaginal
Ming for hardcore anal
Auriel for pure and loving hopejobs

>>162875703
Just watch any competent Ragnaros. They all just shit out damage. You know Chromie's dragon aoe spell that goes up and down. That's Rag. Onlly all of his abilities do that and he isn't crippled by being completely useless against dive.

>>162866630
Winter Jaina was eventually sold separately. I think.

Probably two christmases from now if the game isn't dead.

>>162875193
>TrapGod
don't even bother

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>>162875193
we lost :( was ahead for 70% then murky became useless and couldn't TF anymore

>>162875598
Diablo and Dehaka are still no solo tanks and Tychus is still a nobrain pick on any map against and team

>>162875598
What did they do to make Dehaka OP?

>>162876320
Read the latest notes m80.

>>162876269
Everyone has a counter (or more) Saying "Well warriors are always bad cuz Tychus!" is pretty silly.

>>162875884
only in the very beginning of the game, then they went over to doing only bundles for older event content.

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>>162864315
>that face

>>162876396
I asked because I don't wanna go through the notes
I also don't play Dehaka so I probably wouldn't notice it

$30 gets me 6 heroes but not even a single winter veil bundle.
tip top kek

>>162876546
>giving blizzard any money for this shitshow
I only play this shit when I have nothing else to play

>>162876540
>Dark Swarm - Cooldown: 9 seconds - Deal 139 (63 + 4% per level) damage a second to nearby enemies for 3 seconds, and become able to move through units. Deals double damage to Heroes. Can be cast during Drag and Burrow.
>Lvl 7 Talent - Symbiosis - Every time Dark Swarm damages an enemy Hero, reduce its cooldown by 0.5 seconds.
>Lvl 13 Talent - Primal Swarm -Dark Swarm causes enemies hit to take 15% extra damage for 0.75 seconds.
>Lvl 16 Talent - Tunneling Claws -You can move while Burrowed
>Lvl 20 - Essence Claws - Your Basic Attacks slow the target by 20% for 1 second. If the target is a Hero, you gain 5 Essence.

That's all you need to know really.

>>162876546
>these prices

fun game but good grief isn't this more than league

>>162875393
>all those meme tabs
>still fails to include the timeless classic gay sex with hats on
get >>>/out/

>>162876905
>woosh
>what was that sound?
>i think it was the sound of a newfag missing one of the oldest and most obvious jokes

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>>162876905

>>162876975
it's almost as if my post implies that i have more interest in your selection of tabs than your joke
woosh

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>>162877297

>>162876975 Isn't even >>162875393, you colossal newfag. Why is it newfags that get called out never admit to their fault? Not only that, they lash out--incorrectly, too. Fail after fail after fail.

>>162874937
not too sure about this dehaka meme, he's been underperforming in my games

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>tfw 11-1 with tlv this season.

>>162877452
That's because people who have never played him before are picking him now and have no idea how to properly play him.

People are jumping on because everyone is saying how strong he is and they have no idea what the fuck they are doing. Most of the Dehaka's I see don't even bother split pushing even though he's insane at it.

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>Assassincucks thinking they can 1v1 Rehgar

>>162877928
I mean the mages can't but any melee assassin easily can. Kerrigan might be the only one that can't but even then I'm not so sure.

>>162877406
>newfag
i've been here all summer and i still don't know what you're talking about

Should I even bother doing my placements?
Also, is Alarak already outclassed? haven't seen him in a while

>>162877868
What build do you usually go for?

>>162878139
Alarak requires a non-retarded player. That automatically rules out 50%+ of the player base.

>>162878139
He's hard to use right so many people don't bother. Why play Alarak when you can throw a giant ball of energy that fucking destroys?

Though you'd think with Diablo coming back more people would play Alarak. Pushing people into Diablo's ult is hilarious.

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>>162872772
>drop a meteor on someone
>they think they're smart for sidestepping
>redirect it at them since I took meteor quest

by the time they move again the meteor has expired and I've already won

>>162878337
kek

>>162878223
1. Primal Aggression
4. One-Who-Collects. On two lane maps I'd take Hero Stalker.
7. Symbiosis
10. Whichever Ult I need for the game.
13. Primal Swarm or Ferocious Stalker. Usually Primal Swarm.
16. Tunneling Claws.
20. Essence Claws unless I have no problem getting Essence than usually Apex Predator.

Fuck trying to play quick match

>try to tell people what to do
>they ignore it and continue to let Zagara solo lane for the first 5 minutes

Are these people brain damaged?

>>162878810
>WHY DONT YOU GO????
>you're auriel / morales

>>162877732
>TLV
>le uninteractive splitsoak 3 lanes bullshit hero that you literally can't stop from giving a retarded xp advantage no matter how many times you kill the individual manlets

"kys my man" -Viper

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>>162878985

>>162878139
>placements
Sure, although I suppose it depends?
>alarak outclassed
how do you figure
>no see him
Well, he does feel pretty bad if you're shit, which may not be why people are playing him as much. Sort of like Vikings. Still good if the pilot is.

>>162878810
>have multiple heroes who have short cd aoe attacks
>nobody is killing creep and the enemy knows where we are at all times
I hate idiots

>>162878086
Kerrigan seems really bad again. She has shitty ults, her combo can be avoided or ignored by every meta/cancer hero, her shield generation is usually ass and thanks to the 20->12 sec nerf, you can't farm shields in another lane before a teamfight.

>>162872772
I accept that getting hit by the wave is avoidable, but when you are in the last line of towers in a team fight you and your team will most likely die. Oh, you avoided the first one? well here comes another one like 5 seconds later

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>>162879095
Kerrigan's problem is simple. Why pick Kerrigan when Alarak exists? Kerrigan only gets a clear advantage on Infernal Shrines.

>>162878985
>no.1 fan of tlv named Viper

>Tfw no new posts

>>162879212
>Kerrigan is outclassed by Alarak
>Alarak is outclassed by most other people

Why does she have to suffer so much? She is the first hero I got and I feel bad that she is only good for about two weeks

>>162880524
>Alarak is outclassed by most other people.

He's not. His winrate is shit because he's harder to use than the average character. He's brought up all the time in the pro scene for a reason.

In fact when Denial was losing Blizzcon they kept bringing up the fact that Glau couldn't play Alarak as a big point.

>>162880524
>Alarak is outclassed by most other people
>this is what bronzies actually believe

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ty based blizzard matchmaking

if its not a murky its a master skin abathur who still tries to backdoor

>>162880524
>kerrigan is bad
since when
>>162880932
>4 stack
>lose
what the

>>162881023
I-IS MURKY'S FAULT

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>>162881023
>>162881060
But seriously, Diablo Dehaka, li ming c'mon meng

also interesting new match up LEL

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>>162880932
>Chen died 11 times.
>Lunara 8.

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>>162881140
I honestly forgot Sonya was in the game.

>>162881140
wow blue is fucking dead

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Is tychus made for Bully people?

>>162880524
Kerrigan is #2 in win rate?

>>162880932
>idiot named harambe
>died 11 dies
>going to play overwatch
Is he walking cancer?

>>162881381
Especially bullying big targets like tanks and Ragnaros.

>>162881375
s-shut up :( i-its not done yet

Primal Swarm is pretty fucking nuts

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>>162882258
That's what I've been saying and every tries to come up with stupid reasons why it isn't.

this patch is the diablo, rag, and dehaka show. why play anything else?

>>162882373
It's actually secretly the Tychus patch

>>162882448
>Do first placement as healer
>A Tychus on my team
>He destroys everything and gets MVP
I probably should get him and learn how to play him

>>162882639
He's one of the best assassin's in the game.

>>162882639
>and learn how to play him
dont stand in front of that end kid

>>162882373
>>162882689
>Tychus gets stealthbuffed because of warriors becoming powerful
>been wanting to buy him or Thrall
>decided to save for Abathur but am at 7k and can buy Tychus immediately

hmmm

>>162882764

Get Tychus.

>>162882448
how does tychus get in range to attack diablo without instantly dying?

>>162882764
I mean he's never a bad pick. Shit loads of health, does great damage to everyone, can melt tanks and has 2 good ults.

>>162882838
Wait for diablo to open up on someone else

>>162882838
How does Diablo get in range of Tychus without instantly dying?

% health, and at lvl 13 he heals off that damage and already has the highest health pool of assassins in the game.

>>162882947
you bait him with cleanse

How do I Johanna?
I honestly dont know what I should be doing with her.

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>>162881375
R0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o I JUST WANT MY MASTER SKIN
>tfw 200k till 9

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>>162883085
Disrupt the other team with your crazy cc
Blessed momentum is a must

>>162882947
Charge him into a wall. Overpower him, Charge him again(if you have the talent).
Tychus is strong, but if he gets out of position, he's got one escape and CC can wreck his face.

>>162883090
>Only lvl 9.

Good luck getting 10 if your already breaking down.

>>162883085
>W to clump enemy team
>Q to slow clumped up enemy team
>R shield stun to hold them still even longer
>pray jaina remembers to press all her buttons
>E the stim from morales, raynor W, butcher W, etc. Hold this to blind the important shit. Do not use for poke
>D to negate cc (guitar cow slide stun) or just reduce incoming damage

>>162883198
>Out of position with Tychus.

Why would you be out of position your a ranged assassin? He gets more range on his attack after using E with the lvl 1 talent, not to mention his Q is also a mini escape.

Diablo gets fucked by Tychus all Warriors do.

>>162883227
bah not breaking down its not fun duo/solo qm :(

>>162883513
My advice. Don't just spam one hero, if your trying to level 2 it makes it more manageable. By the time you finally hit 10 and get master skin you'll never want to play them.

>>162883619
>getting sick of hero

maybe shouldn't get their master skin maybe hehe

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>>162883619
NAh I absolutely love rag. FIrst hero i actually want o grind to 10

>also something something reee something angry pepe, etc.

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>>162883619
Bullshit, you come to find who you really truly enjoy when you play them extensively. At least that' show it works for me. Master skin on all my favorite except Kharazim, but he's next because I love him so much.

>>162885157
I dont really get heroes to 10 cause my favs have meh master skin, rag's the first i'm doing this lol

>>162885157
>can level a hero past 10

I had no idea

>doen't have Leoric in favorites

I had no idea you had shit taste.

>reconnect system

it's never getting fixed is it

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>>162885436
forgot pic

The ones that are level 10 i;ve been playing since beta. like i said i dont really care for much for level 10 other than rag.
>shando Illidan
>Yellow tint raynor
>blue tint ETC
>white tint storm mantle malf
>spess Lord Spooky man
>iron butcher

I think the next skin i want if anything will be ToC Colors Anub

>>162874937
This image is very well done.

>>162885157
>Level 20 Gazlowe
Muh nigga

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>>162874937
>That filename
He is not a fucking digimon, his name doesn't have to end with mon.

kek
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=2277913

is tassadar good"

>>162887270
>illidan main

goddamit

is sonya good or shit

i want to main this thick slut

>>162889775
Kinda subpar, but not unviable.

>>162873848
With Deputy Valla and StormGuard Zarya having big and uncovered racks, can we assume that under new director the skins will be more open to lewd?

>>162889775
With Auriel she's nigh-unkillable

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>>162889775
She have the biggest cock in this game.

>>162890154
How thick is Auriel...?

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Holy fuck rag is cancer late game, can somewhat stop a big objective push with stupid fort and clear lanes

What the hell happened with Artanis, he fucking flings people across the lane and does insane dmg now

>>162890694
Her thickness is holy

>>162889775
Solid, but requires a bit more finesse and practice than your typical hero. Play her more like an assassin.

Anyone wanna do 15 matches against easy bots with me for the Genji skin?

>>162890694
very thicc

no face, all ass

she even wears heels

>>162878948
>you go
>ppl in other lanes die
>"WTF NO SUPP?"

>>162887464
tassadar enables range AA dps to poke without losing health.

Forcewalls can gaurantee extra damage if placed right.

You can dodge cooldowns with your E and be overall elusive.

>>162891987
My. Fucking. God.

How does Blizzard keep getting away with this?

>>162892923
don't act like tassadar is anything but a super niche pick. The dude need some changes.

What is a good build for diablo now?
it seems like they moved everything around

>>162839246
Anub'arak buffs when?

>>162894738
Baseline beetles every third attack, every time he uses an ability, and every 8 seconds with the cooldown reduced by 1 second with every basic attack.

>>162894987

but what if we just buffed his base health regen and health pool by 4%

>>162895050
And then reduce the duration of his W by 1.5 seconds to compensate! That's way too tanky, anon!

>>162896012
>not just nerfing the hell out of his damage
Give him the artanis treatment.

>>162894272
pls respond

>>162849369
>he doesn't have 150k gold
>he doesn't have all the heroes
>he doesn't have all the master skins

Rag should have more talents that interact with Molten Core.

>>162898379
Each Q or E talent should have had an added effect for MC, this way if you want to spec into MC you also have to spec into melee range, so you can't spec for ranged and MC (Which is also ranged) and shit.

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I did it /hotsg/!
Game crashed on me no less than three times in queue, which slowed me down a lot. Game found, suddenly I get leaver. Thanks Medicom/Blizzard.
pls donate and subscribe

so how long until Ragnaros nerf?
next week seems likely since they wont work after christmas this year.

>>162899331
What is it that you want nerfed? Just got him and played him for the first time. Got MVP, completely destroyed the other Ragnaros who went all Meteor, whereas I went all Blast Wave with the Spellblock talent for Meteor. Was real fun, but he doesn't feel overly OP to me, the closest thing to OP I found on him was the soaking potential from Lava Wave.

New brawl is actually pretty great. I don't even care about mines being back, but playing a full game with shuffle pick is halfway between qm and aram and more fun than both.

Who is your favorite slut?

Hard mode: No Warcraft