/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

FC later the slutty witch will host

>>162647241
Hooray
How later is later?

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Why didn't you fuckers tell me before that this guy is fun as shit to fight with only a bow and daggers?

Reposting: any good gloves for mirrah chain chest best the ones from the set?
Everything else seems to show skin but I wonder if any at least look good

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Which is the coolest looking plate metal chestpiece?

My vote is for this one.

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>>162646683

Why is it so fun to fuck around with scrubs so much?

Also POST WEBMS

>>162647382
>bow and daggers
How did you do that? Constantly shoot his head for a dagger riposte?

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>>162647421

>>162647473
yup. It took a little while and it was pretty tense but totally worth it.

>>162647354
a bit

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Yes, indeed. It is called Lothric, where the transitory lands of the Lords of Cinder converge.

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People complaining about multi enemy encounters are one and done players that sully popular forums with ''remember this gem'' trite posts. Ganks add longevity to games as they add challenges to players that come back again and again. Nioh got ruined by pussybois before it even released. Do you want Devil May Cry 5 and Bayonetta 3 be about fair and honoraburu 1v1 duells with asian dick size leashes? They will be if this on- the-spectrum trend continiues.
Make games great again and fight this shit.

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>SL150
>Iron Keep Bridge
>Powerstanced Orma and Reeve's
>Full havel's and ironclad
>get Invaded
>hit with Dragon tooth R1
>100 damage

YOUR PUNY ATTACKS CANNOT DEFEAT ME

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>>162647421
I usually feel like bad if I kill a lone host fatrolling

>>162647382
he's pretty fun to fight with a lot of weapons imo

>>162647805
Does anyone still have chomper.webm?

>>162647805
My only regret is that Orma and Reeve's magic defense is too low, I had trouble against a dragonrider twinblade user who was chipping me away. I also need to maybe stack more poise / use iron flesh because I couldn't break the stagger

>>162647415
Alva

>>162647919

Whenever I dominate someone bad like that, while I still have plenty of life and estus left, I'll usually 2 hand my blesstus or shield and shield pump at them or hit them for low damage until they die.

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>>162647382

Yeah daggers are pretty fun...

>>162647919
>you will never password summon a pcpdbf to abuse you when you fail

>>162647805
>Summoned via red stone
>guy is a halberd user
>each hit does about 50 damage to me
>He keeps struggling against the shield
>starts chugging estus
>I cast warmth
>5 minutes later his HALBERD IS BROKEN AND HE'S RAN OUT OF ESTUS
>he's popping lifestones

holy shit this is great, I didn't realize that being an absolute tank means that estus chuggers are going to end up having no way to out-heal me.

WEAKLINGS

>>162650436
What's a good SM for pvp?

>>162650714
Anything under 45,000,000.

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>get associated with Oro's autistic covenant because I have crusader in my characters name

>>162648426
Hey that's me in your webm. What happened to the blue sentinel right before this?

>>162651295
I too was a bloodshade before peeve created it

>>162650714
There are breakpoints at 500k, 1m, 1.5m, and 3m.

1 to 1.5 is where you get the widest range ~SL100 to SL150

3m+ is where most combat is. That's ~SL 200 - 250

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>>162651527
Aite, thanks friends.

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>>162651440
do you even know what the crusades were you fucking teenager

>>162651668
I do, I just find it funny obobobo annoyed you guys so that was just a mockery.
Good luck ganking

I still bloodshade for my lord pevee...

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>wolf ring doesn't increase poise by equip load

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>>162651295
Well, did you expect a retard to come up with original name?

>>162651295
crusaders are fags anyway. nothing of value lost

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>>162647942

Why are people pointing down in the arena? Are fugs and pickaxe such hated weapons?

ENB's favourite spell?
Dead Again

>>162652726
Which area is this? Can't recognise it for whatever reason.

So what's the best place to invade at SL 102?

>>162653197
I like the reactions. Only after I started to point down did I get more frequent fanmail.

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this is actually pretty fun

>>162652224
>wear rags
>equip nothing but fume ultra greatswords in empty swords

>>162652371
>full heavy plate armor, entire body is encased in deflective metal surfaces
>using a bigass metal shield
Why though?

>>162652726
Thanks

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>>162653197
>not pointing down to achieve the maximum edge

>>162653583
because armor in dark souls makes no sense

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How did you guys feel about this boss in DS2? I liked the style, and while the fight wasn't hard, it was fairly unique. The fact that you had to avoid getting run over and make your way over to the gate could be considered gimmicky, but I thought it worked well and was much less infuriating than giving you very little area to fight on or putting a bunch of fires in the arena for you to walk over and get burned on.

>>162653525
BKUGS is probably the best weapon in its class.
Killed SoC on NG+7 with it earlier and it was a fucking breeze compared to most of my other ng+7 runs.

>>162653362
Brotherhood of Blood arena

>>162653740
It's probably the only DS2 boss that tried to do something different and i like him for this. Probably one of the few DS2 bosses i like and i fucking hate DS2 in general.
Also one of a few good pieces of OST.

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>tfw you haven't touched the game since launch and you come back for a second playthrough with fresh dlc

Has there ever been a better time to be alive?

>>162653740
Out of the various shitty "run to [objective] to win the fight" bosses in the Souls series - Dragon God, Bed of Chaos, Executioner's Chariot and Ancient Wyvern - I think the Chariot is objectively the best of the bunch. Not only do you still have to fight the horse legit after reaching the lever, the boss also has a secret alternate method of killing it for players with ranged damage options, with a unique death animation.

>>162653939
do a full str build, pick up millwood stuff and enjoy the comfy ride fagget

Hello /dsg/. I wanna play DaS1 again. Could anyone please post the image where you roll to determine your class and weapons etc

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Reminder Lost Bastille is a really cool level.

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>>162654049
k

>>162654149
many thanks friend, and roll

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Have you ever taken lore notes, /dsg/?

>>162653583
Because this is not real life.

>>162654115
Of all shallow, uninspired DS2 levels (all of them) it's probably the second best after FOTFG.

>>162654115
I unironically liked the door that feels like a silly newbie trap at first but turns out to be a shortcut you drop into from above for the McDuff -> Ruin Sentinels runback.

>>162653918
Some DS2 bosses had decent designs as far as looks, but few of them have that engaging of fights. The Rotten is probably my least favorite so far. Ugly as hell, its appearance and name make me think of smelly shit, lair is filled with fire (even though the area leading up to it was all poison...) and this is one of the few things that makes him kinda hard, the area before him is probably one of the most irritating areas I've played in DS1 or DS2, and the main threat is the asshole pushing you into a wall or making you accidentally walk over fire.

>>162654351
No.

I drew some maps before though

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Reminder there is only 1 snek.

>>162654351
That's very autistic thing to do.
your handwriting sucks dick

>>162654037
Would you guys count Micolash as a "run to objective" boss
>>162654351
No but I kinda wish I did, especially because my handwriting isn't that bad

>>162654458
>the area before him is probably one of the most irritating areas I've played in DS1 or DS2
Black Gulch? Really? I felt it was way too short to come close to irritation. I got headshot stunned once or twice by the statues and thought "well this could get annoying fast" but the next second I found myself at the boss fog.

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Post fun low-mid SL pvp builds.

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>>162654547
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DELETE THIS
WHY HAVE YOU SHOWN ME THIS

>>162654037
Part of it for me is that it actually LOOKS really cool (I mean, we have decent graphics on games now, so using them to make fantastic worlds is good). I can see why you wouldn't like the 'run to thing to win' bosses. I do agree that this is better than the Bed of Chaos. That was one of my less favorite DS1 bosses. The Bed of Chaos's whole thing was to make you fall in a pit and die, and while these can be fun in games, usually it feels a bit better when it's either more linear or not a boss fight. Like, the chariot runs you over, it kills you. The bed of chaos just destroys its own arena, which you have to go under to beat anyway, and it kinda seems silly to have the boss of a hellish landscape be something like that. Honestly, the Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith bosses were kinda disappointing relative to the rest of Dark Souls.

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>>162654547
REMOVE THIS

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>>162654547
Is it a hydra?

>>162654937
>Like, the chariot runs you over, it kills you.
Unlike BoC knocking you into a pit, this was not instant death, you could survive a few hits (assuming the skeletons don't chip you down) or even roll through the wheel spike if you had good timing.

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>>162654547
Wow its like its 2012 all over again.

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Nth for Son of Maldron

>you will never get a demon based dlc to bring back the demon great machete

Do we even know where the next dlc is stationed?

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>>162654547

>>162655402
No, its lazy writing and/or lore theorists grasping at straws.

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>>162654547
Kaathe, Dark Hydra of the Abyss confirmed for DLC2 final boss?

>>162654613
I really hate just trying to rush through stuff and run past enemies. This is one of the few parts of DS where they either encourage this or want you to go slow as fuck. Everything poisons you and there are a million things there trying to do it. They apparently don't count as real enemies because NPCs don't do shit to them. Whereas the gutter felt like a kinda fun place to explore, this was yes, fairly short, but just spammed with shit.

Like, Sen's Fortress in DS1 might have made you go longer without a bonfire, and it had traps that could kill you if you weren't careful, but the fact that it felt like actually exploring a fortress (and had some cool rings) made the length a non-issue. Black gulch would be like spamming all that shit into one room.

I guess a better way to say it is that compared to Blighttown (one of its closer relatives), it wasn't genuinely difficult at all to get to the boss. You could run through or tediously take out the statues. Blighttown might have been a pain, but at least it wasn't just tediously kill a million things to avoid getting poisoned, with the exception of one spot in there, which is optional.

>>162655736
Londor Castle

It's a rehash of the entire high wall/castle area but at night and in the past when Kaathe was alive and his serpents roamed the skies

>>162653305
>not yearn

>>162655641
Well, yeah, messed up the delivery on that. I only got hit by the spokes, but what I meant was the boss itself is killing you, which feels like a better fight. That's the same reason I dislike fire being in The Rotten's lair. If it was a fire based boss it would be different, but it isn't.

>>162655681
Why would you mod your game uglier on purpose?

I really want a dlc having something to do with angels/dark. Bring in some good hexes/miracles too.

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>>162655956
pls happen

leo and hornet ring shouldn't have made a comeback.

>>162656401
Leo Ring is fine.
Hornet less so due to shitty netcode.

>>162656401
>spams L2 from behind the cover of 3 phantoms
>lands eventual parry
heh... seems like you have much left to learn *cleans blood off blade with a stylish flick*

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>>162655817
I so wished for the sneks to show up as a hidden boss or something in dark souls 3. I got so happy when the lore/dialogue on that dark bitch that shows up namedropped kathee, but it never happened.

Imagine a hidden abyss boss fight against a giant snek hydra that you find out has been pulling the strings all along.

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>>162651428

He had a katana and I parried his 2H running R1 attack. Neat that I invaded a fellow /dsg/bro lol, sorry I rekt your shit but I needed that testing data for the deep dagger +4. I can believe it's actually you since I don't think you could've known there was a blue before (unless you're just really good at guessing but I doubt it).

Here you go, sorry for the wait.

>>162657348
>testing data
Are you testing the whole "crits ignore flat defenses" thing, or did that already get verified?

>>162656401

I can't even remember the last time I actually successfully landed a counterthrust, especially one that wasn't a direct trade which fucking sucks. I mean it's not even really worth it:

>A counter hit deals 30% more damage than a normal hit, from the same attack. The Leo Ring further increases this by 15%, which ends up at a total of 49.5% more damage than a non counter hit.

Like... I'll just take the 30% damage increase if I get it and not waste the ring slot. Hornet is waaay more important, not even just for parrying but also for guardbreaks and backstabs.

>>162657678

Pretty much what I'm testing yeah. Ultimately I wanted to make a parrying-centric build at SL36 +4 and have been seeing how much damage different weapons do, including testing stuff like greatswords and ultra weapons at 27/20 or str weapons around 30-35 str, someone on twitch recommended I try the deep dagger and low and behold it works amazingly. Even better that it has no stat requirements, so it allowed me to make a build where I could use Force and Tears (with priestess ring on all the time) and dump into VIG, works quite well because astora SS is so insane as is knight's crossbow. Dagger is also light as fuck so it's pretty easy to compensate for prisoner's chain's damage debuff with better armor.

I mean ignoring flat defenses or not, for whatever reason deep dagger does insane damage that, at this level, seems to be better than everything else even with damage stats invested. Which is great because you can still do huge damage but without investing any stats into str/dex or carry weight (either vit or waste a slot on havel's ring).

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>>162654351
>that handwriting

>>162654351
You write like a 7-year-old, wtf bro?

>>162654149
roll

>Finally getting around to the DLC
I found the Follower Sabre, it's exactly the kind of weapon I wanted for my pirate character back in Two.

I'm a little upset I cannot get a hook hand now.

But it's on a mage character so I slapped Crystal weapon on it, and now I'm a magic sword mother fucker.

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>>162649261

>>162659209
It's just a bland heavy CS, which means its 1H moveset is dogshit and it exists for nothing other than spamming 2HR1s and running attacks.

What a wasted oppourtunity. BAMCO even had the CCS nerfed just so that the sabre would because the new highest AR, and consequently top-tier CS.

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>>162659297

>>162659415
well I just generally felt awkward using the Moonlight Greatsword like I did, I'm liking the sabre a lot more.

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>>162653305

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Is this thing any good for a sorc build?

>>162660424
Was 2-3 patches ago

>>162660424
used to be alright on a dedicated build before halberds and glaives got fucked

ur too late senpai

>>162653939
>Has there ever been a better time to be alive?
Probably when the same thing happened with Dark Souls 1 except the DLC was actually good.

How would you go around building a greatbow build for DS2 pvp?

Lots of running speed and stamina recovery, I imagine, but what supporting spells and other weapons would I want?

Int-based greatsword is the highest damage pure-stat GS. It has a unique WA with strong hyperarmor, perfect tracking and massive damage on top of the unique property of firing projectiles from its charged R2s. It deals split damage but makes up for it with high AR and low stat investment

Pyro-based greatsword is the highest damage elemental GS, longest GS, and one of only 3 (as well as the highest damage among those 3) to have thrusting R2s. It's one of only two weapons in the game to naturally deal dark damage (the best elemental damage type and natural hardcounter to shields) and is the highest source of non-spell dark AR in the game. Its WA is quickly and easily refreshable buff that adds a 3rd damage type in a large enough quantity to be a relevant increase to its overall damage, effectively being a permanent increase to its total damage for no additional stat investment. Requires investment in two stats but compensates for it with appropriate damage.

Faith-based greatsword is the single lowest AR greatsword that scales from more than 1 stat. It's pure physical, but does less damage with full 40/40 in both its primary scaling stats than either of the above. It copypastes the generic bastarc sword moveset with no notable variation whatsoever, and its WA is an extremely slow, long-channeling spell that does less damage than the standard greatsword WA and can be reliably punished on reaction with a backstab. It's unbuffable despite requiring significant investment in a stat specialized for buffing and carries no natural enhancers of its own. It's the single least-efficient greatsword in the game as well as the 2nd lowest total AR at softcaps.

Why does faith get the shaft so hard in this game?

>>162660606
I know hyperarmor changes fucked halberd class in the ass, but wouldn't it still work if I tried some meme stuff like using tinder to cast flashsword and change timings of attacks?

>>162660943
Because fth builds don't deserve to ne good. Get fucked idiots

>>162660943
Faith has always gotten lower damage and utility due to having access to lots of healing, which nothing else can do. The mindset is that faith weapons suck because a faith build can walk through an area healing more and has less likelihood of dying.

From doesn't balance for PvP, they balance for PvE only

>>162658356
Yeah that's the thing, supposedly criticals ignore flat defense which means split damage weapons like a Deep Dagger deal obscene damage.

>>162653740
fucked me up the first time but i can just roll through it now. pretty fun if you don't just cheese him

>>162661279
But Faith sucks for PvE too now. All you have is healing, the damaging miracles and non-weapon buffs are shitty across the board; and because DaS3 is backwards in all the worst ways, you can't even buff most weapons anymore for arbitrary reasons. Wolnir's Sword would be decent if it could be buffed.

>>162661279
But healing miracles are literally worthless in pve when everyone has 15 instant estus. You will never both need more healing than that AND have safe points to cast a healing miracle.

They are literally only ever valuable in contexts where all consumable healing is disabled, which pretty much only means arena pvp.

Plus heal aid is available for only 8 fth and the chime WA (a direct upgrade to bountiful light) available at 10. Faith has nothing worthwhile beyond 15 and that certainly doesn't justify the ~40 point investment necessary to get damage out of wolnir's

>>162661874
To be fair, Wolnir's is basically a Quality weapon except you swap Dex for Fai, so you spend the same amount of stats overall.
The sad thing is you get fuckall else out of that Faith.

>>162661874
Again, From doesn't balance the game according to the 15 estus.
A new player will run out of estus during early areas but not if they're using a fth build

>>162662028
I'm starting to see a trend. You might as well sum it all up as:
>From doesn't balance

>>162662028
>>162661874

>A new player will run out of estus during early areas but not if they're using a fth build

Exactly. This is what goes through the head of From developers:

>"Choose your own difficulty"
>Make sure there is a class and upgrade level for people who want to play defensive
>defensive = lots of heals early on to help against bosses
>But not too easy, so give that class lower damage, healers don't need damage anyway.

>>162661874
This is something that always bothered me with the shard system. They're going to balnce it so people who missed a few shards won't feel helpless. Better if everyone has a set amount of estus from the start.

>>162662028
But early on, every build has access to heals. The low-tier heals aren't unique to a faith build.

That isn't "balance," it's a complete lack of balance.

>>162661971
That's the problem. At 40/40 str/fth it doesn't even break 500AR. It has less total AR than a refined bastard sword/claymore for the same total stat investment.

The only GS with lower AR than Wolnir's is the executioner's GS, and that's a buffable pure str weapon.

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>>162647382

How to fix Yhorm

>Reduce his health pool by half at least
>Make the storm ruler attack drain all FP
>When his HP reaches 0 will stand up and regain some health back unless you deal the finishing blow with Storm Ruler

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>>162662028
>A new player will run out of estus during early areas

Maybe until they reach Crucifixion Woods, but at that point you already have enough healing to pretty much never run out, especially when you add the fact that the game replenishes your estus at random intervals while clearing an area.

>>162662196
Literally the only decent pvp From Soft games are Chromehounds and Armored Core Verdict Day. And ACVD is only balanced because of things from Chromehounds.

ACVD was balanced in basically there are 1-3 weapons that were situationally insanely powerful because of them being insanely hard to use. Then 30% of the weapons were balanced and 70% were dogshit. But among the 30%, it was excellent.

>>162662462
How about not having him be a gimmick fight?

>>162662526
Also, right after Crux Woods two more Estus Shards can be picked up pretty much immediately. At the start of both Cathedral and Farron Keep.

>>162662316
Mate, the shard system is moot anyway - The intent is to sortof create this notion of resources and as your pool of resources grows the game accordingly scales up, all of that is rendered void when the game then turns around and gives a host infinite resources in the form of phantoms.

See,
>>162662196
From has never been good with balance - Both in PvE and PvP. Half the shit they do get right feels like an accident if anything.

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why the fuck do these people exist

>>162662365
>The only GS with lower AR than Wolnir's is the executioner's GS, and that's a buffable pure str weapon.
>literally a better Str/Fai greatsword because you can buff it with DMB and even regain some of the spent FP if you're using it for PvE, for buff upkeep

>>162662626
I miss ACVD now. Do people still play or would I be forced to migrate to JP servers if I don't want to join a circlejerk and just want to random merc?

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>>162662835
>BKGS

I hate that weapon so much. It gives me DaS 1 PTSD.

Are there areas for DS2 pvp other than the Iron Keep or brotherhood arena?

Do riposte/backstabs deal extra amounts of status effects? (poison, bleed)

>>162662462
Here's how I would fix it
Yhorm begins the fight with a whirlwind surrounding him that acts like a barrier and reduces the damage he takes while also deflecting spells and all projectiles excluding greatarrows.
A single hit of stomruler breaks this barrier, or it can be broken by hitting his head/arm enough times to trigger a visceral. Stormruler's WA doesn't do thousands of damage to him. Stormruler itself cannot be upgraded but its base damage is high enough to be equivalent to a raw +10 greatsword. It also has no scaling. Stormruler's fully charged WA consumes no FP but takes durability to use instead, and will break in 3 shots.

When the barrier is broken, phase 2 automatically begins. In phase 2, he takes normal damage anywhere on his body and a visceral attack can be triggered by damaging one of his legs enough. His firestomp now deals a small amount of pure fire damage with the shockwave, and the fire AoE of his attacks has been increased. He no longer attempts to follow up the firestomp with its followup if the shockwave knocks you out of his turning radius. He gains a secondary version of his two-handed slam in this phase where he takes a large step back before slamming, intending to punish players that roll forward and attempt to hide between his legs. Hitting him with Stormruler in phase 2 knocks him down, but has no additional effect.

When his healthbar is within range to die from 1 more visceral attack, He enters phase 3. His wind barrier returns and swirls with the fire from his body, both granting him resistant to damage and causing gradual damage to anybody that gets too close to him. The barrier can once again be dispelled via stormruler or by enough damage to his head/arms, but will periodically return every 20 seconds or so until he's finally killed.

Stormruler is no longer found in his boss room and is instead located in the church in the Profaned Capital, guarded by the 3 handbeasts.

I dunno what to do I can't find a weapon that is fun and still useful in PvP, should I just be a pyrocunt like everyone else and spam the fireball ring thing

>gaskets that bow
this triggers the fuck out of me

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>>162662835
>no range
>shit speed
>no hyperarmor
>shit damage
To be fair, your weapon is his weapon's worst matchup so there's no room for him to attack without running into a trade or miss completely.

On that note, how do we balance lmao2axe?

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My friend told me you shouldn't use estus flasks or healing spells in PvP because its etiquette.

Was he just trolling me?

That seems silly. First of all everyone can use estus shards so theres no disadvantage there, futhermore about not using healing spells. Thats like saying you can't use skarmory since garchomp users don't like it.

Isn't that the whole point of a meta? A is weak to B but strong to C?

Are turbo reactive players really this carebear about a video game?

>>162663953
ganker* stupid fuckin phone i want a PC that's supports wifi ;_;

>>162664028
2axe does like 400 damage per L1 and combos for 800. It doesn't really need fixed beyond it, like every other axe, needing to get the hammer treatment when it comes to animation buffs.

>>162664091
Your friend is a faggot, nothing else

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>>162663953
Duel bow triggers the fuck out of me, more than point down. It's so cheesy and ludicrous when you get raped in a gank or murked in a close fight because of lag or some other bullshit.
>>162664103
That's nice and all but whoever gets hit by them, right?

>>162664091
>in pvp
anything goes, do whatever
>in duels
No flasks, or else it will become a longass chugfest where mages are fucked. Healing spells are easy as hell to punish so its fine.

What's the strongest pvp build now? I assume it's either pyro spam or crystal spam

>mid level invasions are pathetically easy and everyone I invade are noobs
>high level ones are PvPfags and gankers

How do I have fun?

>>162664481

>defending from an invader makes you a ganker

I don't even have the proper reaction image to this

>>162664481
Same problem here

The only difference in lvl 20 and 80 is different weapons being used and they heal more often and for larger amounts

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>>162664028
>no range
>shit speed
yeah UGS are pretty shi-oh wait you mean him lmao
he could easily outrange me if he could space for shit and didn't spam throwables and partial parry like a fucking scrub

>>162664350
is duel bow the same on 3 as it is on 2 ?

>>162664091
you shouldn't heal in a fight club but if it's a random invasion then i see no reasons not to

>>162664381
>No flasks, or else it will become a longass chugfest where mages are fucked.

But its part of the game you dip.

>>162664091
>estus flasks
In "duels" no, in any other PvP setting it doesn't matter
>healing spells
In "duels" yes, in any other PvP setting see above

>>162664654
>you shouldn't heal in a fight club

You shouldn't use skarmory vs garchomp in a pokemon duel since it counters garchomp

>>162664847

Why shouldn't you use flasks in duels?

Thats like saying you shouldn't use 2handers in duels since its unfair to axe users

>>162664554
What else are faggots with phantoms at SL 120 summoning non stop?

>>162664604
I wish more people good at PvP went to lower levels, but seems the better someone is, the more they know about the game and more likely to abuse phantoms and broken stuff.

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>>162664848
You shouldn't use rebuttals that have entirely different context than drinking orange gatorade

>>162664848
justify it however you want bro. i dont health in FC, because i put my sight down for a fight to the death, not a fight till your win because youre not skilled enough to avoid getting hit well enough to kill me.

>>162664848
Healing isn't a counter pokekid
You're too shit to win without healing, quit trying to defend yourself

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>>162664971
It makes fights unnecessarily long to be able to use orange estus in Duels, where the goal is entertainment out of fighting than healing to kill a host

>>162664481
Think most people are having this problem. I stopped doing low and mid level invasions entirely because it's just boring. I just invade @ SL100 - SL120 now and deal with the ganks and bullshit.

>>162664554
Not that dude, but actual ganks are a thing at high levels - If you don't invade at that range, fair enough, but I don't consider a group of 3/4 people going through the game gankers. Gankers means: Seeded or cleared world, multiple phantoms and not progressing. Go invade @ SL120 in the dungeons and call me when you get spawn killed.

>>162663850
I like your idea a lot. I want to add that there should be stairs or high elevation where you can hit the other parts of his body but be more exposed to his hitboxes. It doesn't have to be stairs, it could be piles of burnt bodies or broken pillars you can climb on and a single high pillar that's hard to reach so you can jump off and lunge attack him for a fifth of his health like Tarkus demon; but this elevation is heavily guarded by his attacks that could push you off and kill you for fall damage.
>>162664630
His axes are small, slow and don't have HA to compensate so you end up either whittling his HP or outtank/range him with ultras. Those axes are difficult to followup on whiffs and you have to be dumb in order to allow yourself to get hit by the L1s. R1s are slightly better because of the patch but they can be interrupted by any light weapon. They're pretty mediocre in all aspects that the other weapons outclass dual axes plus it doesn't help that the WA is practically dancer's swords.
You sound like a salty bitch lol
Do you make up excuses when you lose using ultras?

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>>162664630
outspacing only works when latency is godlike. in your webm for example i get hit by those attacks most of the time.

>really like creightons armor set
>realize it looks like an apron
>I'm using chainmail while cooking
That or a really obese woman that tore her nice black dress

>>162664848
You should apples because oranges

The reason chugging in FCs is stupid is threefold:
Mages inherently have less access to estus than melee builds but are also objectively weaker than melee builds and disadvantaged purely in the function and numerical balance of their build. Adding "you also have half the effective HP" is just idiotic.

Estus is unpunishable for the majority of weapons, either because rolling backwards through an attack and healing is 100% safe (eg. vs ultras) or because they can't do enough damage ina pair of L1s to out-damage the HP restored by the flask (eg. daggers). You further disadvantage already bad and disadvantaged weapons and builds while favouring meta ones. You also needlessly draw out fights since 7 estus effectively means 7 heals with near-impunity, and adds up to more than tripling a player's total health pool. There's no reason for a 1-sided fight to last 9 minutes because the losing player has 5k HP and is encouraged to run away and play passively to draw things out despite not having any realistic chance of winning.

You only restore 1 regular estus per win, meaning that if you use more than 1 estus in a fight, you are immediately put at a disadvantage for the next fight. Since, as above, there's no reliable way to prevent chugging and many weapons can't even reliably punish it, any fight that gets close or particularly drawn out inevitably consumes more than 1 of the winning player's estus, and places a freshly summoned new opponent at a distinct advantage over a successful combatant. In other words, it punishes winning and turns the majority of duels into a situation where one side has a massive advantage of effective HP.

In other words >>>/vp/ with your autism. You know absolutely nothing about this game if you think that it's about "counters"

>>162663850
>Stormruler itself cannot be upgraded but its base damage is high enough to be equivalent to a raw +10 greatsword
that definitely wont come back to bite anyone in the ass, nope. i kinda like your ideas, but they dont fit yhorm. too much wind based shit on a guy that has no apparent connection to wind besides stormruler. my idea would be
>remove stormruler
>add some indicator to attack the weak point for massive damage
that's it

>>162665230
I feel really bored at low SLs, I beat up a few people using spotted whip, most of which were in either in knight or FK gear and that was in Irithyll. They hardly put up a fight and that's disappointing.

But when you get people that know (a bit, most gankers suck) what they're doing, they go overkill and kill every enemy with 2 phantoms and in a bad day, passworded reds

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>open kikebook
>see this
kek

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>>162659297

Would you ban me, /dsg/?

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I'm having a strange issue in DS2. When i load my game i can see signs just fine, but after a period of time (after they refresh most likely) they all just disappear. Can still reliably connect on arena and invade, but what the hell is going on with my signs? Never used CE or other shit and this doesn't sound like i was banned.

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Is there an easy to follow guide on how to complete all the questlines in DaS3?

I've tried doing them by cross referencing different character plots with wikis and shit but it gets too convoluted in terms of what order to do things in.

I need a simple sequence of events to follow and do, because I always seem to fuck up something in like Anri and Greirat's questlines.

>>162665794
Creighton's set looks great ... from a distance. The helm and such look absolutely ridiculous if you really think about it.

>>162665875
Killing yhorm by fishing for weakpoint hits is really boring because only a few weapons have the vertical clearance to actually hit his weakpoints and you spend most of the fight waiting, hitting once, and then waiting some more while he's stick in an ai loop.

Opening up his legs as a target but also making his "get the fuck off my legs" attacks more directly threatening makes him a far more interesting boss.

A raw +10 claymore still does less damage than a +3 lightning DSA with resin so I don't think stormuler would become a twink issue beyond just being slightly easier to get. If anything, you could make it automatically set weapon memory to +6 if it's acquired by someone lower than that to prevent twinks from abusing it. Yhorm isn't a progress barrier for twinks anyways since the dancer exists.

I'm thinking about making a dagger only PVE build. I'm eying a few daggers for the set.

Brigand Twindagger: These seem like potentially the main damage dealer of a dagger-only build.

Bandit's Knife: It seems good, but how useful is bleed overall? It seems like it could potentially outdamage the Brigand Twindaggers if bleed is good.

Corvian Greatknife: It's pretty big, so that much is interesting.

Tailbone Short Sword: The weapon art seems interesting, but how is it normally?

Rotten Ghru Dagger: Is poison useful?

>>162665794
>apron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabard

>>162666006
It might be your internet being interrupted or ports being blocked because of firewall.

>>162666165
Bandit's Knife is pretty much the best one due to how powerful Bleed is in PvE.

>>162666159
you're forgetting that the raw claymore hasn't yet been resined, it's pure physical (not that important for low levels but still) and most importantly
HAS
NO
STAT
REQS
whatsoever.

>>162665934
WE

>>162666165
Corvian is the highest damage and longest. It's the best pvp dagger by far and the best option against anything that can't be bled

Bleed is OP as fuck in pve and the bandit's knife curbstomps as a result. People used an unupgraded bandit's knife to cheese the dancer before the darkhand was buffed. It does the most DPS to anything bleedable and isn't actually weak at all outside of that either. Once you reach Carthus and acquire rouge, pve melts. I actually had to limit myself on my dagger-only run because rouged bandit's knife was too strong. I ended up killing Pontiff before he could even summon his clone.

Brigand's suck because their L1 is slow and shitty. You do less DPS with them than regular daggers and you lose out on the godlike 2HR1 that makes daggers actually decent. It's basically a terrible option.

Tailbone is mediocre because it lacks damage but its range is good. The WA is dogshit because it uses the weapon's AR, and consequently only does like 100 damage

Poison is not useful, and so neither is the ghru dagger.

>>162664091
You shouldn't in fight clubs, as your opponent might have used most of their supply the match beforehand and thus be at a disadvanatage since you have a full stock, and you're going to need your estus inbetween matches anyway.

In invasons you absolutely should chug, as the host has a 30% hp advanatage anyway, so there's no point in trying to find a fair fight.

>Thats like saying you can't use skarmory since garchomp users don't like it.
>Isn't that the whole point of a meta? A is weak to B but strong to C?
No, I don't think anyone at all sees estus as a rock-paper-scissors metacounter thing in duels. If anything it's like not playing your hand at all and just wasting people's time. I would also say counterpicking is only a part of what a metagame is.

And to add to that, claiming that counterpicks on principle should ever be banned it kindof bullshit. Let's suppose we were playing rock-paper-scissors-gun, a game identical to rock paper scissors but with the option to play "gun," which beats all other options. The fact that "ooh, it's a counterpick" doesn't mean it allows the game to compare the player's skill against one another any better; RPSG would obviously be better if you just outright banned the G.You're changing the game, but within a competition, the players come first and the game comes second. If changing the game allows the players to be more precisely compared, do so.

>>162666447
You can't resin stormruler, guy.

You also can't use a sword with 10 durability against someone with a shield and a decent stock of estus.

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>>162666452

WUZ

>>162664091
invasions have no rules whatsoever in any form
in duels it's kind of agreed upon to not use orange estus because it prolongs the fight to a bore for many. healing spells are easily punishable, tell him to stop being retarded

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>>162666741

>>162665173
>fight to the death not a fight till you win

Thats the same thing dipshit

>>162665212

Both players have access to estus. No one is at a disadvantage.

>>162665802

Its part of the game ergo if you say you shouldn't use it thats just autism

What does the physical attack stat in a shield with parry skill do? Does it increase riposte damage?

>>162666294
>>162666634
So I want to focus on using Corvian and Bandit's huh? How about Parrying? I heard that got a nerf.

>>162667037

Shield bash damage.

>>162666718
>You shouldn't in fight clubs, as your opponent might have used most of their supply the match beforehand

So you shouldnt use it because your opponent might have used it last game?

ok mate that seems completely reasonable and not at all carebear

Is it worth playing through ds2 with caster builds? I enjoyed my faith playthrough in ds3 so how's it in ds2? Got any good aoe/nukes?

>>162667096
So it's worthless in a shield that has parrying skill then?

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>>162667037

You can actually use shields as weapons once you git gud enough.

>>162667108
You don't know what fightclubs are, do you?

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>>162666986
>Its part of the game ergo if you say you shouldn't use it thats just autism
You're this thoroughly out of arguments already? Christ that was quick, I almost feel bad for you.

>>162667212
Your dumb webm doesn't answer my question.

>>162666986
if you need to use estus then stay out of fight clubs. if im hosting and someone chugs, they get ganked. that's the rules. it's not the other players fault you suck at the game and have to heal, and if they get you low enough that you need to heal but they don't then you're going to lose anyways, why draw it out and waste time?

>>162666730
you can with healbuff :^). most important is the 0 stat req. and you can keep a couple of repair powders. not to mention that you can get 2 SRs per ng to switch around

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6yuI5to8wk
>Japanese memes

>my rb stopped working mid fight, had to r2 to victory

>>162667338
It does though

>>162667338

Except it does, is this bait? It has nothing to do with riposte damage you fucking cunt, you can use shields as an actual weapon like a straight sword or spear or whatever. That's what the fucking attack stat means like any other fucking weapon.

You might as well ask what the physical attack stat on a straight sword does. Holy fucking shit people can't be this dumb can they? I didn't want to just spell it out to this kid but I had a feeling if I just called him an idiot and didn't spoon feed him he'd just keep it going, holy shit.

>>162667578

Like I was gonna just do what >>162667559 did but something tells me he'd be "YOU DIDN'T ANSWER IF IT'D INCREASE RIPOSTE DAMAGE THO" because he's just that retarded. Like he wouldn't actually get it unless explicitly told, ever, because he's just that stupid.

Fuck, 2/10 got me to reply.

>>162667559
I>>162667578
I didn't ask about a shield with bash as skill, I asked about a shield with parry as skill. Get some reading comprehension before replying to me again, retards.

>>162667184
DS2 magic is the strongest in the series.This is because everything has half the elemental defense compared to physical. Mages are definitely worth it, the only problem is that the good spells tend to only have a few casts, so you really have to dump stats into attunement to be a pure mage, or invest in some backup melee weapon.

>>162667390

>if you use estus you suck at the game
>I don't suck at the game the people using estus suck at the game

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>>162665934
>Incredibly racist character still being used
>and still actually winning invasions
>specifically with chucked spears

this makes me incredibly happy for some odd reason...

>>162667749
The answer is still the same... 2H a parry shield and it gets a bash

>>162667070
If you want a riposte-focused dagger, use a Deep Dagger. The way damage is calculated makes this the most effective choice, even over a Refined Mail Breaker.

>>162667749
retard

>>162667809
>cant defeat opponent with only 1 healthbar
yeah. you suck. how hard are you going to try and defend that healing in an honorable duel to the death makes you a shitter? its ok bud, i was bad once too.

>>162667772
Alright cool, haven't played it in a long time so it'll almost feel fresh.

>>162667892
That wasn't what I asked. I asked if it raised riposte damage, that's all. Someone already replied anyway. It's baffling how you kids can't answer a simple question.

>>162668049
if you decide to go on to ng+ make sure to stock up on amber herbs from ornifex before you do. helps alot with casters, especially if your ATT is shit

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>>162667890

He uses a great club too because it also fits the character's theme :^)

>>162668009
Its not dishonourable because you can heal too faggot

Also your confirmed for autism for saying honourable duel to the death in a video game

>>162667108
>ok mate that seems completely reasonable and not at all carebear
yes, it does

Your whole initial reason for saying that estus should be okay in duels was, and I quote; "everyone can use estus shards so theres no disadvantage there". If someone has less available to them due to using them up in a duel wiht someone else, which is completely unrelated to your own actions, then that point is voided, because they no longer have as much estus as you.

I also like how you were completely unable refutation to anything else I'd mentioned.

>I mean like why not be level 387, why make everyone duel at 120?
>387 beats 120, it's just counterplay

>>162667390
>>162666986
>>162665173
>>162664848

When you allow estus, you change the metagame in a way that makes estus optimizing the dominant strategy above all others. It will always be more efficient to build around chugging, or punishing chugging, than to try other techniques.

Allowing both players estus is fair, but it comes at the cost of diversity.

Players are free to use anything, including Estus obviously. But if you do use it, there's a consequence: You've advertised to EVERYONE that you care more about winning than enjoying than diversity of strategy.

>>162667749
>>162668349

>people are really this dumb

Nigga the shield can be used as a weapon are you retarded?

>>162666018
how to greirat: siegward's method
>get him out from the cell
>give him the bone from settlement
>do siegward encounter in settlement
>send greirat to pillage
>save siegward in cathedral by giving him his armor
>find siegward in irithyll
>DO NOT go to dungeon/profaned capital because that triggers onion's quest to progress
>send greirat to pillage
>defeat pontiff
>reach archives or just lothric castle, I don't remember
>send him to pillage
>find his corpse in archives and give his ashes to grandma merchant
>enjoy exploding bolts
how to anri
>meet anri and horace on road of sacrifices
>defeat deacons
>talk to anri in firelink
>reach catacombs
>meet anri for the first time near crystal lizard
>meet anri further in catacombs near the rope bridge
>go to smouldering lake and kill horace
>tell anri that horace is in smouldering lake lmfao pranked hard
>she'll give you ring of the evil eye (if you don't want the ring then when meeting her near the bridge for the first time, tell her you don't know where this bitchass nigga horace is and do below)
>kill vape lord wolnir
>meet anri in church of yorshka
This is where quest branches out for 2 endings
>kill assassin sent by Yuria in the church of yorshka (this fails Yuria's questline btw)
>use Anri's summon sign in Anor Londo and kill Aldritch in her world
>talk to Ludleth in firelink and he'll give you her sword
Anri progress with Yuria
>don't kill assassin in the church
>reach anor londo
>talk to yuria, she'll tell you to go to darkmoon tomb to marry anri
>do that
>reload the map and collect the loot in the tomb
>progress the game normally without healing your hollowing
>get usurpation of fire ending

>>162668876
You're the tard for replying to bait, """"nigga""""".

I really like the no healing in pvp rule but while were at it can we also ban weapons and armor and just use are fists?

That way everyone has an even playing field and only the skilled will survive

>>162668801
It's also fine to care more about estus. If two players really want to use estus and are optimizing around it, let them.

And in fact, ANY dominant weapon is going to reduce diversity.

What makes estus so bad is that it reduces diversity far more than any single weapon or strategy, to a point where it would be broken, or completely remove the benefits of the game if used that extremely.

>>162668681
it is dishonorable tho. what part of "to the death" dont your understand?

>you can heal too
>implying i play 3
>implying i don't have to deal with faggots like you all the time that try to chug
shitters like you are why i attune climax

>honor discussions in the current year
/soulbrandt/

>>162664091
Depends. Is it a friendly duel or invasion pvp?
It's usually agreed that duels (red sign summon) should go without estus, if you heal against someone during a duel they will usually jump off a cliff or refuse to keep fighting.

In invasion against randoms? Do what the fuck ever you want.

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>>162668916
Thanks a lot buddy, saved it for future reference.

>>162668968

Sometimes it's not bait, anon. Sometimes people really are that dumb.

>>162668974
>use are fists

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why are dorkmoons so bad

>>162668974
>he's never done bare fist pvp
lol. git gud

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Guys, it's very important to be honorable, the wiki told me so!

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>>162669370

>>162669370
I once had a darkmoon that killed about 7 invaders on his own, he still died in the end

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Anyone here watch Leto's stream? I heard he found the correct spot to do this. Is this true?

>>162668759
>If someone has less available to them due to using them up in a duel wiht someone else

If your not suppose to use estus in duels than why would someone have used them in the last duel?

>I mean like why not be level 387, why make everyone duel at 120?
>387 beats 120, it's just counterplay

Are you saying you shouldn't level to 387?

>>162668801
>You've advertised to EVERYONE that you care more about winning than enjoying than diversity of strategy.

I care about winning.

Someone come to Farron Keep and help me with Stray Demon. It's hard and I have no ranged attacks. Soul level 45, be gud please.

>>162669836
>if your not supposed to use estus in ducks thence why would someone have used them in the last duel
right, just gonna start my next fight without healing from the won i just won

>>162669836
>If your not suppose to use estus in duels than why would someone have used them in the last duel?
this is bait but I'm going to bite anyway as a means of explaining how poor it is

By virtue of the fact that noone is supposed to use estus, you never encounter the problem of anyone having more estus. Therefore, banning estus avoids the problem.

If you didn't ban it, then people who used it in the duels beforehand would have less estus than their new opponents. Therefore, not banning estus gives people a disadvantage.

>Are you saying you shouldn't level to 387?
not unless you like being alone

>>162669836
You don't use estus during FC while you are fighting another person. If you win your round, you can top off before the next fight. Why is this so hard to understand?

What weapon for hypermode pve ?

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>>162669249
Yeah whatever, just say if you need more.

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>>162666986
>Its part of the game ergo if you say you shouldn't use it thats just autism
So are ring/weaponswap for riposte, glitches and other metashit that guarentees a high chance of winning which is the objective of the game. You're working real hard trying to prove you're the best player in a arbitrary video game. Surely, we can't find any joy in this game other than to limit ourselves to beat others at all costs and sweat.

>>162670095
>won i just won
i feel retarded

>>162670023
Booting my dreamcast.
Password will be isuckcocks, sign inside AW arena

>>162670208
Depends, are you ToD trading or looking for no-hit stuff?
For the former it will be Yhorm's unless you are at a ridiculously high SL, at which point the split damage ultras surpass it.

If you're looking for the latter, Crow Quills, Carthus Sword or Anri's. Apply rouge and go to town.

>>162670368
Dark Souls is on Dreamcast?

>>162670410
Thanks babe

>>162670023
Let me boot up my sega genesis real quick and I'm with you.

>>162669249
Skip finding siegward. Don't talk to him in irithyll and save him in cathedral of the deep. Send grierat to pillage afterwards and kill either Pontiff or Old Demon King and he should be back from pillaging. If you talk to siegward, he may leave earlier than intended and you might send greirat to his death.

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Holy fuck you faggots this is a fucking video game. Unless your hacking there is no such thing as etiquette.

Fuck you guys are carebear as shit.

estus flasks are part of the game, if the developers didn't want you to use it in PvP they would have made it so.

You faggots are worse than the SSBM final destination no fox no items faggots. Atleast those fags actually had a reasoning for their autism (reducing RNG)

Whats next? No 2 hander weapons? No magic spam?

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I finally got around to finishing the Artorias DLC for the first time, and I have to say that Manus might now be my favorite boss in the series.
He hits like a motherfucker, actually moves reasonably fast, and has a wide enough moveset that it keeps you on the defensive a lot of the time.
The atmosphere is intimidating as fuck and the fight as a whole is pretty well done.
I don't know if being on NG+ made a huge difference or not, but I was getting my shit completely pushed in over and over for the first time in a long time and it felt amazing.
I'm sure there's some silly way to cheese the fight, but for now it was a good challenge.

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>>162669667
>fextra

Does anyone on PS4 have crystal rapiers or soul of crystal sages left over from their NG+7 runs? Would you care to donate two of them to a fellow /dsger/?

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>>162670684

>>162666018
If you're doing yuria's quest, you just need to talk to anri at every opportunity and not send her down to smouldering lake if horace is alive. If you aren't doing yuria's quest, kill the pilgrim in the church of yorshka.

Seigward has to have been saved from the well and not been sent to the dungeon when you let greirat pillage irithyll. Entering the dungeons while he's in the kitchen sends him there. Greirat always dies in lothric, but you can send patches to save him and patches will return with an extra hidden blessing. Killing a boss makes the game either kill greirat or send him back. Telling patches "you know who I am" when prompted in the cathedral or declining to forgive him in firelink will give you the prostration gesture.

Giving a tounge to rosaria before abyss watchers is required to summon heysel, which is in turn required to gain the proper bow gesture, however doing so will keep you from continuing sirris's quest. To get heysel's gesture with as much of the loot from sirris's quest as possible, make sure to not return to firelink after giving rosaria a tounge until you've killed the dog guarding the enterance irithyll and been summoned by sirrus to kill creigton. This will give you access to creigton's loot, but sirris will not give you the silvercat ring once you get to firelink. Obtaining that requires that you do not give a tounge to rosaria. You should also find hodrick before killing the greatwood to gain the mound maker's covenant from him without having to finish sirris's quest.

To gain the pale shade equipment, punch yuria three times then run away to make the shades invade you. Absolve yourself after killing the one in irithyll to summon a shade for the gesture and calm yuria down. You may also complete orbeck's quest to gain his ashes for yuria without killing him prematurely. After speaking to him with over 10 intelligence, give him two scrolls before killing too many more bosses, then give him the rest and buy everything.

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>>162670023
I suck but I can help out by being a meatshield. I'll boot my gameboy as soon as I find it.

>>162670684
Fight Clubs are duels. If you just want wanton slaughter, just invade. Invasions are anything goes. If you invade an ongoing Fight Club, just Black Crystal out and leave them be.

Why is this so hard to understand?

>>162670921
If I invade a fight club, the host is a faggot who didn't unember. He doesn't care about being helpful and wasting other's times, so you can bet your ass I'll hypermode hornetstab him.

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>>162670684
>waaaah im a bitch who cant win unless i play attrition tactics only

>>162670684
>unable to refute
>yeah man there's no such thing as rules so why follow them
>just play "gun" in rock paper scissors, rules are for fags
>its not overpowered you can just say "force field" and deflect everything

>>162671027
lol. enjoy being ganked by those(probably pretty good) reds bud

Can anyone tell me what level to maintain to avoid hackers from experience?
Im 80 trying to level the Aldrich covenant, its hacker after hacker after hacker...ridiculous

>>162670657
Siegward only moves his fat ass if you go to dungeon, otherwise he's glued to the kitchen.

Anyone on PS4 want me to help them in PVE? I wanna farm some sunlight medals.

>>162670762
>tfw killing him with bow before fog gate

>>162671162
>duelfags
>good at the game

Lol, maybe in 1 where I'd be scared of chainstabs.
Most reds in FCs suck and die easily even with 30% of advantage. They're half retards who think ultras are viable and half metafags who don't even know how to rollcatch with ccs

>>162671074

>waaaah im a whiny cunt who can't counter attrition tactics

>>162671091

These aren't rules.

Rules are thing made from the developers and enforced by them.

What you guys have is carebear faggots making up their own shit

>>162671190
I only had one pair of very bad cheaters using infinite health post-Pontiff at SL68.

People like that I just try to screw with and kill them via lethal falls.

>>162671460
[[[forcefeild]]]

>>162671460
well fightclubs will enforce their no-chug rule by ganking you if you chug in them, so checkmate

>>162671460
are you Brazilian by any chance? anytime i come across an asshole that doesn't want to have fun and only wants to win, i look at their profile, Brazilian

>>162671190
It's not SL, but the area. Go anywhere else

>>162671460
>Implying I can't make my own rules if I want
>Implying community doesn't have it's agreed rules since Demon's

>>162670798
The other fextra caps. Requesting Morne's Great Hammer in particular.

>>162671782
Typically when I encounter a BR, they're using CE and baby's first godmode

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>>162671717

thats like saying its ok to kill a pedophile because the cops won't arrest them.

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>>162671782
I guess that's why they won gold in football you rude nasty person

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>>162671460
>Dark souls aint free. The land of undead and curse gotta be litterd with the blood of casuls. miazaki is not my gme desiger. he is casul panderer and probbaly cashgrab as well :DD. ther are NO rules n fun in pvp ok. praise giant dad.

>>162671905
And where else can I be invading through the covenant? Im in the ariandel location so its kinda shitty if the post pontif is the only place

Duelfags ruined Souls PvP. 4-1 was a mistake.

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>You didn't deserve the mire...
What did she mean by this?

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???

>>162671945
yeah, dunno why they're such shitters.

>>162672060
but i dont care about football

>>162672252
She means she isn't 'mirin, dexfag.

>>162672298
>never seen morion blade/dragon form cheese

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>>162671970
It's not a matter of "okay" or "not okay," and the other anon is correct to say that there's no real such thing as honor or good or bad. The facts are that there's an institution called society, and like it or not it can punish you to whatever extent it's able to if you don't abide by the constructs it puts fourth. If he can get away with it then he's got nothing to worry about, but if he can't, he does. The fact that "oh, someone just invented those rules they're just made up" doesn't mean anything because that applies to literally every rule ever. I abide by fightclub rules because I like them and personally benefit from seeing them enforced, and I use CE to make builds because I can get away with it and personally benefit from it. That's the reality.

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>>162671970
>this analogy
So it's okay to kill priests and popes? I mean, the game supports it so...

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I was just invaded by a twink named Adolf Hitler at SL 15 and he was actually nice.

I cheered on while he dispatched my phantoms, we both bowed then had a lopsided but fun duel.

Remember if you happen to invade the world of Exal, I'm a bro like that.

>>162647403
Legion arms

Nevermind guys, I beat him on my own, my 2h is stronger than I thought, it took like four swings.

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>>162672546
>Remember if you happen to invade the world of Exal, I'm a bro like that.
>advertising
I'll be sure to remember that.

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>>162672298

>dark sword
>artorias

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>Fighting quickstep shitters with sorceries

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>>162672503
-and I should add that I like them because they do infact make the game more competitive. If that much isn't clear, refer to the RPSG analogy.

>>162671363
>sniping Maneater
>sniping Allant
>sniping Capra Demon
Are there any others? I'm sure there are.

>>162669009
What's up with Soulbrandt nowadays anyway?
Last time I heard Oroboro was streaming Hearthstone or some shit and Scott Jund went to play Pokemon.

>>162673064
You can snipe Sif over his arena wall. You have to activate the fight first and use Poison Arrows though.

>>162671945
I always assume players from third world countries are often matched up with 1st world country players with better internet and gaming specs so they have to compensate with tryhard tactics in order to win. This reasoning can be used for players in asian countries albeit more tryhard than playing with toasters. Also partly because they're frustrated living in a shithole and grief players as a form of escapism.

>>162673064

Sif.

>>162672546
>CCS on a twink
why tho

>>162672427
Probably because the average citizen of a socialist poverty country can't really afford luxuries like a high-end computer for recreation and decent internet. Most BRs you encounter are the spoiled rotten and entitled children of the relatively wealthy. In a shitpin like that, relatively wealthy is like being stinkin' rich, like being the equivalent to lower-middle class in a 1st world country puts you in the top 1% of Brazil. So, those kids learn nothing except that they can do whatever they want and rules don't apply to them because their dad has money and friends in the government and their mom is an 18 year old trophy fuckdoll.

They constitute most of what you encounter online because nobody else can afford it.

>>162673118
Can't pay bills as a PvP oriented DaS streamer - If you aren't doing speedruns or meme challenge runs you're wasting your time. Pretty sure they are just run of the mill variety streamers now, at least if the shitposting in here is to be believed.

>>162672985
Delay your hits or backstep farron flashsword. Parry, hyperarmor, tons of options open to you.

>>162672985
>Fighting sorcery shitters with UGS
Lately I just unequip my weapon and fool around rolling and gesturing until the time runs out

>>162673347
>summoned to world
>guy pretending to host a FC
>climaxes me while i buff
>look at profile
>BR
man, they're seriously fucking assholes. and if they use climax you know they're not doing it for souls. literally purely to be a dick

>>162673307
Consistent hits because of the retarded fast r1spam it can pile up dps quickly against low stamina players. It reaches full cancer boosters at high levels because damage scaling.

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>Making twitch fags mad enough to invite you to groups
he he he he heh

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>>162672858
He's called Artorias of the Abyss for a reason.

>>162673462
Can't delay if they never allow you to attack
Flashsword is meh, but the best choice here tbqh
>Parry, get backstab punished because of quickstep unpredictability
>hyper armor on sorceries

>>162673307

SL35 +4 is where real low-level invading starts at. "Super Low" invasions like SL15 are for assholes/trolls who just want to fuck with people because twinking is so incredibly OP at those level, you're like a demigod. Some people go the OP route and some people go the poison route.

>>162673613
Literally every climax-user is a skiddie, anon.
The general table had a safe script to freeze soul counter so you could climax repeatedly without emptying your souls

>>162673347
What a load of bullshit lol dude

>>162673852
I'd agree with you but i play on ps3

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>>162673713
>send "gg" to pvp opponent whenever I have a genuinely good fight.
>some person on /dsg/ will always interpret it as being mad.

>>162673742
Can you hold a CCS? two hand one and spam R1
It's literally that easy.

>>162673863
Does daddy know that he's paying for you to shitpost on 4chan, hue?

>>162673347
I hope that's pasta and you aren't autistic enough to actually think that.

>>162673742
If you're only using sorceries then I recommend diversifying your build with a new mainhand or offhand. If it was up to me, I always make a build that centers around whether I have a way to get around parries or shields because most players will come equipped with them. Unless you running a extremely light build, there's no reason not to use up your weight capacity to carry a reliable secondary.

>>162673713
>be retarded
>think someone complimenting you is mad

>>162673984
I pay my stuff. It's really no big deal having a computer and playing games. I'm poor and I do it.

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>>162673980
>CCS
I'm a caster not some typical meta spammer

>>162674043
I'm running a archdeacon staff faith hybrid, with poised sunlight spears for trading hits and emit force for freeaim knockdowns.

>>162673713
Twitch fags are the worst
You're doing God's work

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>>162673713

Nah, that's not mad

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>>162673347
I understand where you're coming from but that's some serious cynical skepticism if you really think every BR player is your case scenario.

>>162673970
>>162674126
He was definitely mad because he was being reactive so I decided to play his game gesturing him and throwing arrows in distance