/dsg/ - Dark Souls General

Are the new Sorceries shit?
I'm guessing so since Frostbite seems like sort of an afterthought but I haven't really messed around with them much yet.

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Second for best husbando

>>162581369
It's shit
Frostbite is completly silent though

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>>162581127
Xth for no ears

Repost for new thread:


Anyone here play the older armored core games on PS2?

I'm making a game hack for Armored Core Last Raven to make the gameplay more dark-souls like, by making it more ground based melee shooting with more stagger/impact and dodging. Except there's no quick dodge / roll and instead you have to use cover.

Anyone whose played both games got some cool ideas I could implement? I've already done things like implement a more DS1-like poise system so that your weight class determines how badly you get pushed around, and more deadly melee / heavy attacks so that people can be killed in 4-5 strategically placed hits like dark souls instead of requiring a lot of shooting, and a more slowly restoring stamina bar. Still keeping vertical flight though.
Basically, if you had the option to add guns to dark souls and remove rolling, how would you want them to work?

Souls should haven't gone back to fast

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>Who art thou? One of us thou art not.

Did this stupid bitch keep her legs closed because she thought she'd find "Mr.Right" Half-Dragon after thousands of years of waiting?

And she impales everyone else?

What a bitch

>>162581770
>should haven't
do you me shouldn't've/shouldn't have?

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>>162581398
I don't really understand what people see in Sillyman but I'm kinda sad part of the Pontiff lore got cut from AoA.

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What did he mean by this?

>>162581832
She was just pure.

>>162581973
So many people try to parry the 2h'd r1 on the spiked mace that I had to make a steam group to tell people not to

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>tfw Dark Souls 3 is what I expected Dark Souls 2 to be

>>162581938
>I don't really understand what people see in Sillyman
He's my boss husbando, perfect boss

I'm mad about the cut lore of AoA, I'M MAD. REEEEEEEEEEEEE.
I'M ALSO MAD AT ALL THE CUT CONTENT FROM THE BASE GAME.

>>162582218
>tfw Dark Souls 2 is what I wish every MMO to be
Maybe someday

>>162582225
>>162581938

From software is so desperate to regain DS1 nostalgia that they even named the DLC with the same acronym

>>162582363
>Ashes of the Andariel

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I'm back from work guys.

Not sure if I wanna go full melee with this character, or melee/pyromancy.

Its a character for PvE and coop only so min-maxing doesn't really matter.

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>>162582363

>>162582337
>>162582218

If DS3 was a purely single player game and DS2 was an open-world invasion-based combat arena, that would have been beautiful. Then they could actually release DLC weapon packs and stuff for DS2 without compromising the single player


Given their track record, I'm fully expecting the next 3 games to be:
1. A new armored core game
2. A pure multiplayer melee combat game / MOBA ("something very different") built on souls mechanics, but with entirely different gameplay.
3. Another dark fantasy RPG with only co-op and duel arena online based on souls gameplay, but with entirely new mechanics.

>>162581938
>>162582225
I still haven't heard much about cut AoA content, especially not anything *explicitly* to do with Sulyvahn. Are you talking about the 'lost child' dialogue, or whatever it's called?

>>162582543
Melee + pyro can be fun.
You can go like ~20 dex + pyro and use dark infused weapons alongside your spells. Most quality weapons end up really strong with the dark infusion

Or you can go hybrid str/pyro and use shit like the Demon's Greataxe

Or you can go with the Onyx Greatsword and basically have all your stats in pyro except like 1 or 2 to meet the weapon's reqs

You know what this reminds me of?

Balder Knights.

It's too bad that wasn't something that got carried over into future games. I liked a mid-tier knight that was still a threat in early game but not a rare encounter like the black knights.

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>>162582541
>not knowing that "the" is usually left out in acronyms

>>162582225
Does the Pontiff give you wood?

>>162582618
The "something entirely different" is probably going to be a mobage with anime art. Every japanese company is doing that right now because it prints money

>>162582752
Whoops, that was in response to >>162582543

>>162582752
It's a shame that, for all the DaS1 callbacks in 3, we didn't get the Balder knight set. I'd love to get the restored version of that.

>>162582731
I wanna be able to try out most weapons in game except the ridiculous ones, so I'm aiming for around 20-25 str, dex will probably stay around 15. The rest is for Int, Fth, and Vit + End as needed per weapon choice.

>>162582906
>all the Artorias fanservice in DS3
>instead of getting restored armor we get this shitty abyss stained turd
thx A team

>>162582796
>leaving out "the"
>not leaving out "of"

That's not how it works.

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>>162582676
Lost Child dialogue yes.

>>162582752
I liked the Lothric Knights better desu.

They were pretty much like the Blue Eyed/Red Eyed Knights from Demon's Souls except smarter and otherwise better too.

You meet them in the firat level of the game and then in the endgame just like Demon's. And then the game has other types of Knights for you to fight in the mid game.

>>162582809
From soft is here to make money for the publishers. Why would the publishers (sony, namco) pick from soft to make that over literally anyone else? It's not their niche.

Plus, they already have Monster Hunter Diaries when it comes to anime shit.

Given that their usual criteria for "different" is just the same gameplay in a new story, I'm imagining this is something like an actual fully new game with its own mechanics totally separate from AC, or DS, or KF.

Every game they have made uses the basic mechanics from KF and AC, the combination of which makes Dark Souls.

This is true for all their games, with the few exceptions like Lost Kingdoms or Enchanted Arms, or the times they were a secondary dev to a larger company like with Steel Batallion or Monster Hunter Diaries.

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>>162583223
The Lothric Knights also feel a lot more intimidating with their closed helmets.

The Balder Knights were fun enemies, but I always thought they looked kind of goofy with their open facemasks, skinny legs and general animations.

The Lothric Knights do NOT fuck around and are much more aggressive in their fighting style too.

>>162583150
There is no A-B dynamic anymore. All the DS2 devs got fired and all the BB devs got promoted and replaced with new hires, who made DS3.

The only people still at the company who probably worked on anything before DS2 are just a few upper managers and creative designers from DS1.

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Doing an Olgierd von Everec cosplay build, pls rate and help

The closest way to imitate his glowing red sword thing is with carthus rouge so i might as well use a bleed build with the carthus cancer sword.

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>>162581127

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C U T E

>>162583613
Is it just me or was she the most underwhelming character in the entire game? I was really excited to finally meet the fourth dragon slayer only to find out that she's a whiny NPC and fighting her isn't even an actual boss fight, or even a decent NPC fight.

What should I shoot foor, str/dex/int wise, if I want a SL120 build that uses immolation tinder and freide's scythe?

>>162583534
I liked the mix of open visor Lothicc knights and closed visor ones, but I somewhat agree, the closed visor made them appear more mysterious.

The Blue/Red Eyed knights in DeS were pretty dank too,with the helmets and weird glowing eyes.

I wouldn't say that the Balder Knights were goofy since their glowing eyes were still pretty creepy but using the Balder helm yourself looked goofy.

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>>162583770

>>162583898
This is the same reason I liked the Heide knights. They had the best helmets and were very myseterious. The movesets and the slumped, deceptively limp movements they made really intimidated me the first time I aggro'd one.

>>162583958
not the first time Gwyn has gotten cucked by a dragon ;)

>>162582676
Yes
I'm mad that they made her a simple ennemy.

>>162583850
Ciaran was a Lord's Blade, not a dragon slayer.

>>162582807
Every night. And guess what, it's always the night in Irithyll

>>162583613
If this armourset isn't in DLC2 I'm fucking bombing Fromsoft. I expected it and Gold Black Hemmed set in DaS2 because cloth physics and those 2 being prime candidates.

Not being in 3 basegame was beyond faggotry.

However, if they're lazy with it and just port it over like the other old sets instead of remodeling and re detailing it, I'll be even more mad.

>>162584110
>Ornstein
>killed dragons

>Gough
>killed dragons

>Artorias
>killed abyssal shit

>Ciaran
Some sort of assassin?

>>162584256
Yes.

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>>162583770
Very cute!!

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>>162583223
I really like the Lothric Knights but I think they were introduced a little too early. You reach them after like, two stretches of enemies in the first area, whereas you didn't encounter your first Balder Knight until Undead Parish. I could honestly see a completely new person being a little overwhelmed by the Lothric Knight. But, maybe that's not necessarily a bad thing. I've always been of the opinion that Dark Souls shouldn't be accessible for every retard, so maybe putting an enemy as smart as the Lothric Knight so early is actually a good filter.

Though, while I like every enemy in High Wall, it feels a little too cluttered in my opinion
>Hollow soldiers
>Giant hollows
>Screeching hollows
>Pus of Man
>Lothric Knights
>Dogs
>Winged Knights
>Dragon
>(and also a Darkwraith but you can't fight him for a little while)

I don't want to be one of those "it's not like DaS1 so it's bad" assholes but I thought the enemy variety in the Burg was good for a first area
>Hollow warriors
>Hollow soldiers to provide a little more challenge
>Some retard Hollows scattered about
>A black knight if you want a real challenge
Small, but picking up quite quickly through the next few areas, and a good way of easing you into combat after the super easy enemies in the Asylum. When I got to High Wall, I didn't dislike any of the enemies, but it seemed a bit confused in my opinion.

Not that enemy variety is a bad thing, of course. I love Dark Souls enemies.

>>162583770
>>162583958
>>162584553
Cute!

when did this arbalest offhand meme start?

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>>162584737
That's also cute anon!!

>>162584737
Lothric Knights still terrify me on every new character. Especially the greatshield ones that seem to always know exactly when to block

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>>162583534

>>162584994
Just guard break and riposte them.

>>162584810
When people said that magic was viable so we had to put them in their place

>>162585241
>magic
>viable
Out of all the types in 3 the only viable one on a pure build is pyromancy.
Pure sorcery relies on people being shit at timing roll iframes
Pure miricles have no variety

>>162585159
looks good tbqh

Do you guys think we'll see the final sister of the Sable church with this next DLC?

>>162585552
Pure miracles also rely on people being literal retards and staying in melee range of you while you do your literal 3 second wind-up casts instead of simply rolling away a short distance.

>>162585159
It actually looks cool

>>162585159
>can't see

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>>162585847
1000 hours in paint

>>162583895
I was thinking 35 dex/60int/base str for immolation tinder

Will that work out

>>162586104

CUTE

>>162585693
You already see her in the hollow ending cutscene.

>>162586197
Oh... What does she look like?

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>>162585241
>spam Deep Soul
>waste enemy stamina
>close in for the kill

When people say magic isn't viable, it's because they aren't being creative.

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>>162586286
Same outfit as Yuria, lel.

>>162586104
<3

>>162585552
Sorcery is perfectly viable, sadly pure miracle builds aren't since you can't hit anyone who isn't using a large and slow wepaon.

>>162586386

I don't use Deep Soul, does it just use very little stamina to cast?

>>162586386
>enemy uses deep soul
>strafe forward-left
>deep soul passes right by me without me using any stamina whatsoever to avoid it

Do millwood greatarrows knock people over like Onislayer or do I need to save greirat in irithyll to get the knock people off cliff arrows

Whats the best are to get summoned for quick boss kills at SL 34? I feel kinda underleveled since I've already made it to Catacombs of Carthus and I need some easy souls.

>>162586562
Yes! That's the beauty of it. Don't use Great Deep Soul. It even recovers about half of the stamina lost between casting back-to-back if you're wearing the Chloranthy Ring.

>>162586779
Are you surprised to hear that I meet nobody who does this?

>>162586889
Undead Legion or Deacons of the Deep. Not quick fights but what are you gonna do?

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>>162587127
>Undead Legion

Do you mean Abyss Watchers? That's the first time I've ever seen anyone refer to them as that.

Oh well that's good news, I love the AW fight.

>>162586831

Arrow type is irrelevant.

>>162587568
Well will the millwood greatbow do it?

So what would be a fun, gimmicky character to make in 3? I've run through over 15 so far.

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need ideas for knight armor that works with hoods
post fash

part of me wants to go and mod the ds2 fluted drakeblood into ds3 but i really cannot be fucked finding the ds3 drakeblood diffuse, normal, and specular maps in igp11

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>>162587693

No idea.

>>162587401
yeah I've been drinking and couldn't remember the name lol

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>>162587779
>knight armor that works with hoods
What the fuck am I reading.

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>invade in ds2 for the first time in like a year
>host instantly activates the seed
>he has 3 butt buddies
>his rapier has a reach of a fucking demon spear
Part of me thinks i wasted time making a DS2 invader.

>>162588118
why would you believe the ds2 is ok meme?

>>162588046
V I D E O
G A M E S

>>162583592
pls respond

>>162584737
Well, the enemy gating actually follows the line of Demon's Souls more than it does Dark Souls 1 really.

You fight the Blue Eyed Knights really early on in DeS too, complete with the first area having one Red Eyed knight.

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Why are hair rgb colors so skewed in ds3?
Why is hair lighting so shit everywhere but in darkmoon tomb?

>>162588405
weird zone specific tint filters

use a minimalist reshade or the brighter hair colour mod

>>162588046
>implying I'm not into the left

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>>162588405
>it's impossible to make a blonde character in ds3 so hair colour would fit the nameless king's crown
should've just went with BB character creator

>>162583592
>>162588353
>make a generic bleed build
wow it's fucking nothing

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>>162588405
Because DaS3 literally reuses the DaS1/Demons hair colour code shit where max 255 is actually grey, whereas Bloodborne and DaS2 have actual white hair because they did new things

>>162588591
I keep hearing about reshades getting people banned though, are they fine now?

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>>162588405
>hair colors are fucked
>almost every armor has different shading limiting the matching combinations
thx memezaki

>>162588774
nobody has ever gotten banned for reshade ever

unless its in a game like CSGO where things like that can upset the autistic competitive community

>>162588768
the sliders for most of the things in ds3 are the same as bloodborne, just extended arbitrarily, you can make more horrific abominations in ds3 but you should theoretically be able to port over your bloodborne character faces, colours are weird though as it seems everything is extremely dull for no reason

>>162588774

Sounds like something reddit would say. You don't browse reddit do you?

>>162583592

>Sharp instead of Hollow

Why do people say you shouldnt use heals in pvp?

Like what the fuck kind of casual shit is that?

Is that just melee trying to nerf casters or something?

>>162589287
>>162589252
Saw it on the steam community page when I was trying to find out how getting unbanned works, lots of people there were saying things like reshades and overlays (like shadowplay) were getting them banned.

Oh god beating the dancer at sl22 +2 weapons was a toughie for me. Glad thats done.

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when you're 6 items away from completing a covenant

>>162589458
Do you really want to have to fight metacancer pyros who can also heal?

>>162589458
Because only retards say that. If you can't punish someone casting a healing miracle you don't deserve to win anyway.

>>162588046
Is the girl that gets raped a main character or just some literal who used to insert strong images?

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>>162589682
>when you have 300 tongues in your inventory but can't do shit with them
really wish for rosaria's covenant shop run by Heysel or something

>>162588609
but why would you be into a shitty Berserk knock-off?

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>>162589458
turbo reactive players complain about this because it directly punishes their playstyle

>>162589579
i used reshade for awhile, the only reason to not use reshade is because it doesn't actually work perfectly in ds3, can cause crashing last time i used it so i removed it before ashes came out

i got some decent results aesthetically however

>>162589846
It's usually the turbo reactive shitters who carry the heal miracles though

>>162584994
you serious dude just spam 2hr1 with straight sword there's nothing they can do

>>162589458
You should always ignore retards who try to impose limits to the ways you want to play the game.

>One of several complaints about DS3 was that it was too easy
>Team doesn't know how to make a challenging boss fight.
>so the DLC only features two (2) bosses
>one has three phases because they don't know how to make a hard boss (just fight three easy ones in a row lol)
>the other has several dog enemies in its arena because they don't know how to make a hard boss (even though bosses with several dog enemies in the arena have been criticized as some of the absolute worst flaws of both previous dark souls games, they keep doing it)
>both fights feature one small fast enemy and one very large enemy whose main purpose is to create large white/red clouds so as to obscure the smaller enemy.
>both bosses can be VERY easily parried, which trivializes the fights.
>the DLC is required to access PvP matchmaking, which shouldn't be behind a paywall since DS3 PvP is kinda shit to begin with.

Oh dear. And here I was, trusting them too too much. Is there another on the horizon? I'll examine the shit out of that one before buying it, spoilers be damned.

>>162589802
Have you already collected vertebra shackles and sunlight medals? They're surprisingly quick to collect when you summon into fight clubs.

Also: good on you for 300 tongues! Think of it like a badge of honor.

>>162589802

Yeah, it's dumb. I have fucking 2000+ Pale Tongues, with nothing to spend them on. Let me at least buy some consumables or ugrade materials with them.

>>162589738

>my playstyle is better than your playstyle so you shouldn't play the way you like to play

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>>162588405
>this was kind of blonde in creator
>it's all washed up in game
why did I even bother?

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I feel naked and vulnerable without this ring

>>162589458
If you're joining a Fight Club: don't. It's just etiquette. If you invade or get invaded: chug away! Talismans exist for a reason.

>>162589981
i mean the ones who haven't invested into that stuff

i dont use healing miracles in arena because i think its a waste of time not fighting the enemy, i have never fought a healing player i couldn't punish

if you want angry people, spam buffered running r1s with the washing pole in 1v1 brawl, now THAT makes people salty

>>162590259
all part of the eternal pursuit for the perfect soulsfu

>>162589458
Healing miracles are so slow that if you use them, you deserve to be applauded for bravery, they're fine. Estus, on the other hand, often can't be punished, either because they're too far away (rare unless it's caster v caster) or because 2 hits/1 running hit does less damage than the estus heal, then they roll away, up hp from the trade despite getting 'punished'. Estus is just too fast in this game; DS2 estus was the good shit.

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>free milfanito
>she dies
>hear her singing when you go down the elevator

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>>162563370
>>162563550

>>162590473
>she dies

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>>162590282
not so different after all, eh?

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>>162590282
this is probably the best ring they've reintroduced from des
>no obscuring ring in ds1
>can't do real asshole thief invasions like i do in ds3

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>>162590324
Yeah, but in DaS2 I could actually have a blonde girl without getting cucked by game.

>>162590624
in ds2 all faces you could do ended up being potato faces so it's really not an improvement

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>>162590624
that's not blonde that's yellow

>>162590624
>blonde
>spaghetti

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>>162590294

>you shouldn't use heals in fight clubs since turbo reactive players don't like it

wew

Thats like saying you shouldnt use skarmony vs garchomp since garchomp users don't like it.

holy fuck turbo reactive players are carebear as shit

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See this guy? This guy's grab attack is bullshit. The game just takes the controller out of your hands and says "Sit there and watch while you lose 90% of your health, then get hit while you're standing up, game over for you fuckboy."

No skill, no strats, just sit there and watch yourself lose. Fuckin' bad game design.

>>162590447

But everyone has access to estus?

I don't get it. Why would you ban estus?

Why not just ban 2handers while were at it?

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The only thing I dislike about Healing Miracles in PvP is that people go around the pillars in the arena to cast them, but they also go around them to cheese you with cheap hits as you're turning around the corner, so if they turn the corner you're forced to follow them closely and open yourself to said cheap tactics. You can counter this by staying at a distance where they can't hit you but also can't safely cast the miracle, but I find it very annoying and they get point downs if I win when they're doing that.

Even worse when they go up the large pillar with the cat ring, using it to heal.

This is just bad arena design in my opinion, I don't know why it has to have all this gimmicky crap instead of being an open area without bullshit.

Some people are bound to disagree with me though.

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Explain why this isn't the best town theme in the Souls series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hoAyx3-0I

you can't

>>162590949
Lern2roll

>>162590123
But DS3 had challenging boss fights.
Dark Souls isn't I Wanna Be The Guy, the core of the gameplay relies is patience and observation. I doubt you went and one shotted every boss. If you and you observed the bosses if you died to them, and then countered them.

>>162590949
Why did you got hit by the grab in the first place you fuck

>>162591092
Too catchy, gets in your head and won't go away.

>>162590808
lol I fuckin' love Skarmory.

But nah. I would say don't heal in FCs because it's its own thing. Just crash the FC if you're going to use estus.

Then again, now that you can Undead Match to a no-estus duel, it's not so bad...

>>162591123
>>162591097
It's unavoidable you shitters, he just reaches out, grabs, and YOU DIED. Bad. Game. Design.

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>>162590949
>getting hit by his most telegraphed move
wew

>>162591092
I always find myself going back to Majula even when I have no reason to, it's just so nice there.

>>162590949
>getting hit by the grab

W E W
E
W

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What clothes most closely match Stingy's? All I can think of is Lucatiel's set

>>162590949
Ive never been grabbed by this enemy in my 700 hours of playing this. The goat guys on the other hand...

>>162591053
No, arena sucks. I wish everyone dropped red signs at HW.
Until they make an actual good arena I refuse to go there

>>162591092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY-CEFD8X1Q
because this is still the best

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>>162591259
Sorry to break it to you, you're just bad m8

>>162591092
>annoying chime noises
hahaha
no
NO

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>>162591259

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>>162591447
I've got 300 hours in DS3, have beaten the game three times and NG+ twice, and nowhere else (except those goat fucks) is the grab attack that fuckin' cheap. Don't fuckin' pretend to be a faggot in this thread because it won't work.

>>162591631
If you suck at something long and hard enough you'll eventually get to the end

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>>162591631
I'd say the dancer's grab is the worst, followed by the goats. There's so much wind up on the darkwraith's dark hand move that there's no excuse to get hit.

Also, how many hours do people have here?

>>162591631
>M-muh hours
And you are still fucking bad at PVE
How shit can you even be my man

>>162588405
michael jackson tier nose

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Does it have hyperarmor on the r2's ?

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>>162591959
Stop defending bad game design just because it's the only game your mommy bought you this year. Take some fucking criticism of your super most-favorite game for once, neckbeard fanboy.

>>162592150
Yes.

>>162592112
I'm shit at noses, can't get them to look nice

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Who else is /disappointed/?

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>>162590624
yes but ds2 had a horrific case of OBLIVION FACE, i did try really hard but facegen is cancer, it just doesn't work and never has

also the program used to generate faces based on images is absurdly processor intensive for no reason

>>162592112
any nose tips?

>>162592170
are you guys still going on about the darkwraith grab? because there are actual issues with DS3 that aren't the grab.

So you can stab with a spear and a rapier while behin a shield, why not every pointed weapon? Why not a straightsword?

>>162592408
I don't even know why you can do it in the first place

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>>162592352
>DS1
>DS1 spinoff
>BB
>DS1.5

>>162592408
Because that would require the dev to do something, they were busy copy pasting every ds1 animations

>>162592352
>not even an hour yet
>already disappointed
ds3 is slightly disappointing, but what are you disappointed at only 50 minutes in?

>>162592170
mad cuz bad

>>162592581

Because my PC can only run in in a shit resolution, and I've been waiting for my new PC.

>>162587779
Thorns with the hood you're wearing. Lorian's armor with the hood of his gay brother. Morne's armor with the bandit mask/hood

>>162592509
Take less damage while fishing for a counter hit? What I don't know is why you take damage at all if your shield is phys 100%

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>>162590949

>getting hit by Dark Hand

nigga those goatfucks 20m further are 10x worse

>>162592881
Does Dark Hand even get HA on its weapon art?

>>162591329

Clandestine Coat?

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>>162592352
It could have been so much more

I just got Warmth. What are some funny/annoying things I can do with it?

>>162592997

>Clandestine Coat

Sounds good, I'll use that

>>162592964
nope

>>162592408
History accurate techniques in my souls game? what the fuck

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>>162593035
using it at all

>>162592184
both the 1 handed and 2 handed?

>>162593339
touché

>>162593384
It doesn't have hyper armor unless you are using Stomp

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>>162592964

Nope, it's fucking trash. Sacred Flame is already pretty bad, but even that is ten times better than Lifedrain.

>>162592881
EVERY SOULS GAME HAS TO HAVE THAT ONE ENEMY THAT JUST FUCKING SUCKS

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>tfw no fluffy tail to touch in sequels

>>162593524
useless useless

>>162593584
yeah the whole point of that weapon is r1spam

i always thought dark swords where a bit overrated even when they where overpowered, atleast in pvp anyway

>>162593543
and Darkwraiths aren't them... but those goat motherfuckers are

>>162593584

Breaking news: Dark Sword is trash at anything but 1H R1 spam.

>>162593776
What are we supposed to whine about now? Katanas or greatshields?

>>162593878
Fire surge of course!

The true "boss" order of DS1 is:

Asylum Demon
Crestfallen Warrior
Black Knight (Sword)
Havel the Rock
Black Knight (Halberd)
Hydra
(blacksmith)
Hellkite Dragon
Capra Demon
Butcher
(back to blacksmith with the new ember)
Ingward
Four Kings
(back to the blacksmith with the last ember)
Undead Dragon curb stomp
Stray Demon curb stomp
Gargoyle curb stomp
Quelaag curb stomp
Iron Golem curb stomp
Priscilla
Gwyndolin (get that sunlight blade son)
O&S
(warp back to firelink)
Nito
(warp to quelaag's domain)
Ceaseless Discharge
(BoC doesn't count because he's not a boss)
(warp to Anor londo)
Seath
(warp to firelink)
Pinwheel (counts more than BoC)
Nito
Curb stomp everyone else, including DLC
Gwyn

>>162593767
yeah
also ds3 has the chain axe serpents as well, easily the real part of the wyvern bossfight is getting past that cunt without him slicing your asshole open, on ng+7 that fucker knocks off half my health when embered at 37 vigor

>>162593878
reactive gfs

So I've never done a dex build in souls. Can someone give me a rundown on how dex weapon types stack against each other in 3? Stuff like daggers vs katanas vs curved swords vs does anyone even use curved greatswords?

>>162593996
>curb stomp

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>>162593996
>Gwyndolin
delet this

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>>162593996

>crestfallen warrior

>>162594091
the only decent full dex weapon in ds3 is the crow rapier claw thingy, i might be missing something but pure dex is super disappointing in ds3

>>162593996
>killing nito twice

>be in oolacile township first time, clearing it and walking back to bonfire with the elevator shortcut outside arena
>some assfaggot invades me and instantly starts tryharding and spamming spells
>fucking run away and take the elevator shortcut back down, got mastermind trap planned
>he takes the elevator too and my plan is halfway there
>equip golem axe and blast his ass right as he comes down, he fucking flies off and dies like a cunt
>disconnects instantly

get fucking smashed fucking tryhard ds1 pvper babby

>>162594367
he's fucking terrifying at low levels

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>>162593996
I kinda want to try this...

>>162594171
Once you've got a +15 weapon none of the bosses are difficult until you reach the DLC.

>>162593996
>killing nito twice

What a noob

>>162594398
>and once before pinwheel

is this some kind of secret speed run?

>>162593996

>Killing Crestfallen

You heartless bastard. I'll kill Gwyndolin without batting an eye, but Crestallen is too pure to kill.

>>162594443

Same. Saving these run notes.

>>162594367
H-he's fast

>>162594376
Really now? I heard dex was way better than how fucked str got.

>>162594398
twice as nice

I was going to put Nito earlier on the list but then I remembered that BoC exists, just forgot to delete his old place.

Point is: Go the alt route. Spent the early game fighting the 'non-boss' enemies and skip all the bosses until you can upgrade your weapons +15, then go on a murder spree

>>162594505
this is true

>>162594583
looks like we'll need master key

>>162594091

There are about 8 Dex weapons in total, so you don't have much to choose from.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/126085
How's this for a STR/FAI build? I was doing a quality build at first but I felt like going for lightning with a dark sword. Should I redistribute stats?

>>162594683
"dex builds" have been replaced by quality. People just call fast weapon quality builds dex

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>Beat a fast roller in full exile gear.
>Point down
>Comes back with infinite i-frames

:^)

>>162594683
everything is pretty subpar in comparison to quality builds, the only build i believe can actually go toe to toe with quality is a "not a wizard" int build, because your damage scaling ends at 40 for most weapons so you can pump vig, end and vit like crazy

i haven't really gotten into the tryhard side of the game for a very long time ever since i got double gold in arena so im not entirely sure, i think pyro with onyx blade is perfectly viable too

>>162593996
>Ingward
????????

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>>162594837

>STR/FAI build
>18 faith
>10 attunement
>no spells
>FAII
>40 Dex
>STR/FAI

>>162595047
he doesnt give you the key unless you have the lordvessel

>>162594837
>STR/FTH
>more DEX than FTH

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>>162594837
>25 vig
>21 end
>sl101
l m a o

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Anyone on PS4 want to help me transfer some stacks of souls and +2 rings between characters of mine? They're all yours if you're inclined to savescum.

>>162595080
>>162595181
>>162595217
Glad you chose to ignore that I was doing a quality build at first.
I suppose I shouldn't expect actual advice here.

so, do we know or have any throeries on what happened to ornstein when he left anor londo?
his armor is on archdragon peak but no body.

>>162595289
This abomination is not quality, nor str/fth. It's just fucking garbage that excels at nothing.

>>162594607
>>162594367
>newbies don't even know how to kick him off the ledge

Every time I start up a game of DS1, if I can't kill the crestfallen warrior in a fair fight, as soon as I reach firelink, It's not worth continuing the rest of the game. If I'm particularly frustrated, I kick him off the ledge.

>>162594398
>>162594565
>>162594529

Amended list:

Asylum Demon
Crestfallen Warrior (only kick if you haven't gotten gud yet)
Black Knight (Sword)
Havel the Rock
Black Knight (Halberd)
Hydra
Titanite Demon
(blacksmith, get the basement key from the parish)
Blue drakes (valley of the drakes via the shortcut by the grass shield)
Undead dragon
Capra Demon
Butcher
Hellkite Dragon
(back to blacksmith via hellkite dragon path with the new ember, then parish shortcut to firelink)
Ingward
Four Kings
(back to the blacksmith with the last ember)
Stray Demon curb stomp
Gargoyle curb stomp
(parish > firelink > valley of drakes shortcut)
Quelaag curb stomp
Iron Golem curb stomp
Priscilla
Gwyndolin (get that sunlight blade son)
O&S
(warp to quelaag's domain)
Ceaseless Discharge
(BoC doesn't count because he's not a boss)
(warp to Anor londo)
Seath
(warp to firelink)
Pinwheel (counts more than BoC)
Nito
Curb stomp everyone else, including DLC
Gwyn

>>162595319

he died in the mountains fighting his last fight against the fucking biggest dragon ever

>>162595360
Okay then. How should I redistribute my stats?

>>162595361
why would you even kill him in the first place? he's not laurtec

>>162595047
>>162595135
That's why he's listed as a boss

You kill that motherfucker and he drops the key

Who the fuck waits for ingward to be nice? You've got an EMBER to get son.

>>162593996

Ok after analysing this list I'd make some changes.

>do hydra before bk halberd, even if it drops you probably can't use it
>hellkite wyvern doesn't spawn unless you enter the burg through the aqueduct, so maybe something needs to be changes here
>don't sit at fair lady's bonfire, use a homeward bone instead
>remove the first nito

>>162595527
kys

>>162595289

>''alright, I was doing a quality build, but now I want to a Str/Fai one, how's this?''
>posts a 40/40 Quality build with 18 Fai and no spells

nigga, what the fuck do you think?

Do you have brain problems?

>>162595567
You do BK halberd first so you can easily access the bonfire right next to the hydra

Hellkite will spawn no matter which direction you come from. You have to kick the ladder down to get him to actually come down fight you (unless you use arrows only).

>>162595319
some people suspect he ascended to dragon hood because you have to unequip your armor before you can use the stone, and the armor appears discarded, as if he didn't want or need it anymore

>>162594837
This is the best I could do to salvage whatever the fuck you had going on there.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/1260

>>162595661
Nah, I forgot to say that I found out I could redistribute stats with Rosaria so I figured I'd try something with STR/FTH and posted my current stats.
I don't see why you even answer if you're going to be a cunt.

>>162595770
>>162595661
Hellkite will spawn no matter which direction you come from but if you're coming from the parish, you have to go all the way to the end of the bridge, and then turn around and he'll show up.

>>162595249
No one's biting, so I suppose I can. How are we gonna do this?

>>162595840
>guy wants str/fth
>post pyro
? ? ?

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>>162595419

gee wizz, I don't know.

Maybe though.

This is a big maybe.

MAYBE if you want to do a Str/Fai build you could

hear me out here

MAYBE you could

just listen here

what if

what if you drop dex and increase faith?

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>>162590259
>>162588405
>Even trying to be blonde
>Not just accepting boring slavdom

Gives me conniptions.

>>162595770
>Hellkite will spawn no matter which direction you come from

He doesn't, kicking the ladder down only activates him if he's sitting above the gate. Either way, I got confused for a moment. Because the route is BK Sword > Havel > Darkroot you're obviously entering the Burg the correct way. I always go through the Valley of Drakes first, I wasn't thinking right.

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I sort of fucked up and heavily overinvested into offensive stats. How can I best fix this build, assuming a target level of 125? Should I just go vit all the way, a 50/50 vit/end split, or what?

>>162595954

kek that was not the build I made at all wtf

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>>162595382
this one?
>>162595484
>>162595838
ahhh ok. so his story isnt all that tragic if he got what he sought after right? so he could very well be one of those statues of the dragons performing the way of the dragon?

>>162596061
Never go with more than two damage stats in DaS1.
It's not hard. There are only four of them.

>>162596089
yes. he died killing it

he didn't become a stone statue

>>162595994
Classic animetard failing to give a proper answer.

>>162595929
Fantastic, let's meet at High Wall bonfire, pass: wolf

I'll summon you and drop the souls and stuff first then switch characters. While I'm doing that you can backup your save then after dropping me the souls back it up again and voila, you have a 99 stack of souls and some good rings.

>>162596089
That's a big dragon

>>162596061

You can't, get 50 VIT and be a Darkmoon.

>>162596272
forhim

>>162596061
What's your main weapon?

Get enough endurance to meet 50% havel's ring or 25% DWGR weight cap depending on your armor and weapons you want to use

then put the rest in vitality.

>>162596241
Nah I don't want to bother backing up the save. I'll still transfer it for you though. My character name will be Reikki.

>>162596340
Ok thanks, heading over now.

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>>162596237

someone fucking kill me

>>162596453
I'm already there.

>>162581896
should have not gone back to fast is valid
therefore should haven't is as valid as shouldn't have

Idea for a samurai fashion

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>>162596237
>guys i want to change a STR/DEX character to a STR/FTH character what do i do
>drop dex for more faith
>that's not an answer

>>162596501
Can you try using the red soapstone? I can't summon you with a regular white soapstone.

>>162596580
samurai """""""fashion"""""""

>>162596691
Done.

>>162595361
>Four Kings
>didn't kill sif
>instantly die

Nice list dickhead.

>start undead match
>loading screen is unusually long
>spawn in alone in an empty arena
>after a few seconds it tells me that everybody else went home and returns me to firelink
What is up with this? I've had it happen about 4 times in a row just now. I thought it might be my connection at first but I ran a speed test alongside the loadingscreen and it was totally normal.

Are the fromsoft servers shitting themselves?

>>162595361
Also, if you REALLY want to do this right, you'll start warrior, grab the zweihander, then get the wolf ring as soon as you get to darkroot. 2H it until you get enough level to 2H it with grass crest shield with havel's ring within the first hour of the game, which should be enough to take out the hydra and titanite demon before you reach the blacksmith. Also grab the elite knight set while you're there too. That should have you set through most of the game, unless you manage to pick up a BKH or BKS on the way.

>>162596745
Well I see your sign but every time I try to summon you it immediately says I'm unable to. I've never really had this issue before so I'm not sure what's going on.

>>162596651
drop VIT

you literally don't need it

>>162596994
Souls netcode apparantly. I don't even get a message saying you're trying. I guess it's not going to work out, sorry.

>>162597059
Ah oh well, thanks for the offer anyway.

>>162595361

senpai, it will take forever to kill the undead dragon with low level weapons

>>162597164
At least I tried, right?

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I've never had trouble with sullyvahn beasts, now I can't get past them at all, it's like their attacks are lagging or something and I'm getting hit by shit after I get out of the way

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>>162595995
Well, I just gave up on blonde hair creating second girl character, so yeah.

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>>162596651
Here lad.

Dunno what the fuck you needed the bow for desu. Especially considering with 4 more attunement

Anyone use Deep Protection? I've been using it but idk if it's actually been helping me. Maybe every once in a while it's helped me keep a sliver of HP.

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>Dragonslayer axe doesn't have it's moveset from ds2
Why is every moveset so bland

>>162597427
I mean shit, on second glance. If you want ranged ability, just start as a cleric and you get two att spots, leaving one free for sunlight spear.

>>162597210
If you don't like the challenge you could always do the same run easy mode:

>+5 zweihander, possible +2 BKH/BKS,
>elite knight set
>havel's ring
>grass crest shield
>wolf ring = 90 poise

>>162597427
>no earth seeker or sunlight blade lothric knight gs

>>162597597

Anon, I think I'll give it a try tomorrow.

>>162597508
Dark Souls 2 movesets are blander than Dark Souls 3's, look at the black knight stuff for example. It's only things like axes and greataxes that have very boring movesets.

And the unique weapons in Dark Souls 2 mostly consisted of just reused moves from other weapon classes pasted together.

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rate my old das2 girl. i think i did a good job

>>162598093
Why the long face?

Why don't I get called for invasions as faithful/red

I'm 47 at Pontiff

>>162598229
yeah i needed to work on the jaw.

>>162597683
>>162597427

>no Morne's Hammer
>no Wolnir's Holy Sword
>just 10 Attunement
>no actual spells shown

>>162598093

I have a slight crush on her, cute.

>>162598093
tumblr/10

>>162598229
>>162598321
hey man, some women have long faces. Nothing wrong with that.

>>162598093
Massive nose.

>>162598284
What's your weapon upgrade level?

>>162598414
Heretic/10 in general

>>162598734
+3

>>162598093
There's no reason to make a female character in Ds2, the bearer of the curse in canonically male and you will always have man shoulders anyway.

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>>162598848

what the fuck is going on with /dsg/ today

>>162598909
Prove it.

>>162598848
>pontiff
>47

>+3

Lol

>>162599272
I didn't uppgrade for a reason tho

>>162599331
>why am I not being invaded/invading?

>47/+3 at pontiff

Lol

>>162598093
looks jew

>>162599128
God only knows.

>>162597235
Yup no fault of yours m8 I blame froms brilliant net code. I'll check back some other time to see if a transfer will work

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>>162598093

I can't believe I found her in my waifusouls folder.

>>162599491
>tfw my character isn't in there
;-;

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Is there a way to make it good ? She is so pretty

>>162599595

Post your character, I have 100+ waifus in there.

>>162599680
It's not that bad in the few instances where a boss or tougher enemy has a pretty big weakness to frost

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>>162599714

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>>162599680
>can barely see the nice looking blade past the stupid ice glow

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>>162599714
I also had this one.

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>>162599835

She's not there. Please don't be sad, Anon. I have never seen her before.

>>162599680
Raise it's damage, make it frosty only after you enter stance/do WA attack and pray to from to revamp frost in general

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>>162599714

>>162600301
>dlc add frost weapon buff
>can't use it on weapons that already got frost effect
Why

>>162600030
Do you have that purple haired cutie from Dark Souls 2? If I recall one of her pics was in the Undead Crypt, but I may be wrong. She was kinda popular way back then.