/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

>>162589907
fuck the fucking fps death edition next?

>>162589060
Who cares. Beekeeping in DF isn't worth the trouble right now anyway. All beekeepers that show up at my fort are automatically conscripted.

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>>162590102
Shit, didn't notice how far down the last thread had slipped.

So yeah, add stuff like this onto the item_weapons entries as a default improvement (check out the item tool scroll sections) and put these into the reactions, end result is that the handles and shit show up with the relevant materials. [IMPROVEMENT:100:axe:SPECIFIC:HANDLE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:helve:NONE]

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my giant slug didn't do a damn thing about these snail men wandering into my property. gastropods can't be trusted.

>>162590780
Fuck, I bet making the floors out of rock salt doesn't do shit huh.

>>162590780
Gastropods are inherently nepotistic. How do you think they survived this long into earth's history? Perfectly happy to throw other species under the bus so long as it benefits them. Why do you think the dinosaurs went extinct?

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With a name like this I really wish I could use this in a digging machine of some sort.

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"""dangerous terrain"""

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does anyone know if there's a way I can get the shell off of this dead guy's back? I've already lost a dwarf due to the lack of shells available on this map.

>>162592172
You can't.

>>162592084
nice map.

>>162592084
I can never figured out what the hell your fort design is

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>>162592770

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welp, that's one way to go. having a floor built over you by your friends, dying of thirst.

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>>162593630
Thanks.

>>162593990
Me neither.

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dumb bitch that found urdim's body didn't give a fuck

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I've been standing in this spot for well over an hour, it's the entrance to a dark fortress or goblin fortress or whatever they're called . They just keep coming, they try to get inside and ignore me as I cut them down one by one. Will it stop only once the pit is empty and devoid of life?

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>>162592172
cursor over it
gui/gm-editor
flags1.dead_dwarf=false

Otherwise, no way.

>>162590780
>gastropods can't be trusted.
eminently quotable

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tfw only have ten militia dorfs

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>>162598692
Here's a cleaner version of the 16x16.

This thread is too young to die.

>>162601325
Too old to lock in the basement and hurl rabbits at though.

>>162598692
>always try getting a fortress started in max evil max savage areas,
>always get decently far ahead but then one thrall or other undead makes it in with a refugee or such
>fortress ends with frutration when all essential dorfs are killed

I don't know how to do it

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>>162602417
Have them flee inside over cage traps, and low pop numbers.

Set up regions where the only entry route is controlled and covered.

got a metric fuck ton o gold, what should i do? make gold crafts and trade them?

>>162603029
That and use them for nobles.
Try to arm a militia or a well fortified base before so.

>>162604053
DELET

>>162604053
Is the benis bearded?

>>162604358
I think this guy is boteposter

>>162604706
I forgot about that dude really quick.
I mean, it's not surprising, but y'know.

>>162603029
Get some fortifications n shut up before you go gold crazy

>30 idles dorfs
I've lost control

>>162606465
build them some taverns temples and libraries dude.

at least then its productive idleness.

>>162590780
The vomit is a nice touch and good attention to detail.

>>162607109
Not him, but I JUST got back into Df after a break, taverns/temples/libraries weren't in the last build I played. What do they do?

>>162607450
The wiki would do a much better job than I would at explaining.

Taverns basically act as a meeting hall for your dwarves, where they go and get served booze by a tavern keeper, can socialize, dance, sing and have fun. They can also attract outsiders from your fort, such as warriors and performers. These outsiders can apply to become residents of your fort, and if you accept them, they hang around, and become just like your own dwarves.

Temples give your dwarves a place to pray and commune with their gods, and gives good thoughts.

Libraries mean your scribes can write down stuff and make books and scrolls and shit, which can then be read by dwarves in search of mental gymnastics. Also they attract wandering scholars.

>>162603347
>>162606164
got anally raped by an undead invasion
was thinking of going straight down to the caverns for my next fort, for dat wooden spear warfare against the trogs

I lost control of a macro. Tried pausing the game, it muted my game and then saved and tried to make a new world.
How to cancel them if I spam ctrl p and lose control again?

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these fuckin toads won't stop bothering my statues man

>>162611792
Make a statue of a large toad getting killed in a horrifying way, to scare them off. a Scare-Toad, if you will.

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Worse than literally anything else

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>>162615575
They come in the giant variety as well.

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>It wasn't strictly necessary, as usual, but we're adding a few more cover identities to be used by agents sneaking into towns to collect information (they can also use the existing artist, scholar and warrior professions as cover). In order for the agents not to stick out for the player, their cover professions need to be held by real counterparts. So there'll be prophets, pilgrims, monks, peddlers and petty criminals. They won't get many mechanics, but they'll be around. The stuff we do add for them have a secondary purpose to set the stage for the myth release -- the prophecies are stored in a way which aligns with the myth generator we wrote (though that's not coming in yet), and it also relates to an expanded language framework (that's not coming in yet either). It should be good to toy around with those ideas a bit first before we get to the full implementation.
Seems like we're gonna have to be careful around those bards and mercs.

Question
if I lock traders behind a drawbridge can they starve? if so, can I have their stuff, without conflict?

>>162618416
Can you have their stuff? Yes. Without conflict? No.

>>162618416
I think deconstructing an occupied depot accomplishes taking their stuff without issue, I'm not sure I'm speaking from loose memory, but exploits like that feel cheaty.

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>>162615575
the worst.

>>162618416
Nope. Only citizens can starve.

The best way to get rid of traders is by using drowning chambers connected to pumps. Also make sure to dig a tunnel connecting to the edge(using fortifications) through which the water can leave.

>>162618416
No, but they will go insane after a while. Then you can have their stuff. If any of them turn stark raving mad those will eventually dehydrate, but they're just as likely to go berserk or melancholy.

>>162622413
holy fuck

Why aren't there slings in the game? That'd give a good use to heavier rocks and lead.

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Post PLM porn.

>>162622413
WTF i love pyrite now

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>>162618416
If the traders die in your territory for any reason the civ that sent them will treat it as if you killed them yourself.

Also don't listen to these other nerds talking about water pumps, all you gotta do is build your depot in a room you can seal and then throw corpses down through the roof so you can give them some tasty miasma. just Auschwitz those dirty knife ears.

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>>162618071
Expanded language framework? Toady, you're spoiling us.

>>162623330
fuck off to bay12 ponyfag

How do cliff indicators actually work on the embark screen? I embarked some place that was
00
44
and assumed there'd be cliffs in the south, but it's all flat.

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>>162625119
>being so obsessed with cartoon meme horses that you can't appreciate aesthetic geology

>>162590780
awesome drawing dude, you got any more?

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Ability to grip someone by the head and hold them harmlessly out of reach when?

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>>162627716
reminded me of this

>>162623302
There are catapults tho

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>>162628051
Parental abuse when?

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a fresh meme to stimulate the thread

>>162629879
>not the dead dwarf tile
one job

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>>162631383

>>162628232
That's just not the same.
I wonder if dwarves are physically capable of making slings work as well as humans.

>implying update

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Is this looking symmetrical? is it looking even somewhat good?

>>162633074
>Is this looking symmetrical?
Yes.
>is it looking even somewhat good?
No.

>>162633119
Thank you.

>>162618416
They won't starve, but I believe they might go insane after they're stuck long enough. That takes a LONG time tho.
A better bet is to unleash some captured monsters on them and hope for the best.

Without conflict?
No, the civ that sent the caravan measures with how much Wealth the caravan goes away, and with how much Wealth it comes back. If the latter is less than the former, the civ won't like it and will consider it theft.
This is why forcefully taking stuff is a bad idea, be it through the trade screen or just murderfucking them.
Hell, this even counts for caravans getting killed by creatures outside of your fort, which is an annoyance.

Take care of your caravans unless you want potential war. Granted, this doesn't count for dorf civs, only elves and humans

Newbie here. Last time I played was few years ago.

In theory I should be able to survive at least few years on just plump helmets right? I keep getting out of seeds until my farm plots dies off. My farmers, cooks and brewers get deadly bored. No idea what's going on with that.

>>162634962
Cooking and brewing the plumps destroys the seeds, that's your problem.
A medium farmplot should be able to sustain a 100+ fort.

>>162590780
>>162591291
>snails killed dinos
Salt will be given
awesome drawing honestanon, keep up

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>>162633074
>caring about symmetry
>using a non-square set

>>162635230
Dang... I need to get the farms running for longer time then before getting them to eat up then.

by medium you mean 5x5 or 10x10? I have no real point of reference here.

>>162604874
rude

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>>162635416
>Using a square tileset

>>162635492
I'm not that experienced with it, but I believe 10x10 should be more than fine.
Just keep an eye out on your food stocks and adjust if need be.

I recommend simply buying some plump seeds from dorf caravans from time to time.
Or just turn plump helms off for cooking and just eat them raw.

>>162635765
i personally cant play without square tiles.

I also cant play. I've tried a few times and am here lurking because i love the concept of the game.

>>162618071
>There are peddlers
>There are monks
>There prophets ready for the myth update
>there will be criminals
>All of them, and warriors, artists and librarians can be infiltrated agents from other civs, trying to steal your stuff and killing you from the inside

This is totally not gonna help my paranoia with vampires man

>>162627716
when the combat system understands how holding someone in the air and being unable to atack someone from your backside works
Also, you can already jump onto someone, have them fall in the river and hold them underwater from different z space so they drown
quite cool to me

>>162635916
I hear you thanks a lot.

>>162631671
red is darker

also, what letter style is that, I like it

>>162629224
desu, If we gave dwarves more freedom to unleash their stress, they would probably end up beating their families before throwing any tantrums
Better leave stress like that until psychology is fleshed out

>>162633074
>that file name
Armok Vult

>>162633119
>It is sad, but not unexpected

>>162635941
I feel you senpai. why cant you play, may I ask?

>>162636017
This is so rad tho
Visiting your old forts in adv mode was fun, but ultimately there was little to do unless it was destroyed by a FB

Now imagine all the rumors you'll get from artifact thefts, which you can then track down.

Hell, I imagine we'll have political murders at some point using the same disguise system.
And imagine this: they could just run back for payment after the deed is done, allowing finding out who gave the order, or continue living in the fort and leave everyone guessing. Imagine the latter scenario, and dorfs start to throw accusations. Imagine the FUN that could be had

We used to have loyalty cascades. Soon enough we'll have civ-wide accusation-cascades with not just dorfs murdering eachother in a fort, but armies being sent

>>162635492
>>162635916
Pft, I've sustained forts with just 2x10 plots of plump helmets and some cave fishing.

>>162622413
Pyrite ores are the traps of the mineral world.

>>162636323
was a quick edit.

Courier, Bold, Size 20

>>162635941
Try watching someone play the game. I'd recommend DasTactic and Joel from Vinesauce

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>>162633074
>>162633119
>>162635416
Overhaul + Square tileset. Is it even slightly good now?

>>162636415
>why cant you play, may I ask?

Mostly because im retarded. Im sure after a few more goes, something will click and i will have a moment of clarity where i see and understand everything and finally understand how to play.

Fortress mode i have little interest in, but adventure mode is really close to my dream game. Like an elderscrolls game with its depth of lore, but so much deeper gameplay. i could negotiate with bandits instead of having to fight. literally anything i want is possible. shit like that.

>>162637463
6/10 would explore with a slight sense of adventure

Well done on the sucessful square set transition/

>>162635230
No. Only cooking destroys it. Brewing preserves the seeds. You can survive forever on the sweet helm plumps

>>162635230
>>162635492

Brewing doesn't destroy seeds.

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My mason gives no fucks about ghosts.

>>162637884
While we're on the topic of growing and seeds, I want to make a larger argricultural industry with the other goods that can be grown.

What should I focus on growing that gives some variety? Sweet pods? Cave wheat? Never really messed around with them

>>162636875
>Soon enough we'll have civ-wide accusation-cascades with not just dorfs murdering eachother in a fort, but armies being sent
/dfg/, can you tell me why I enjoy so much mass destruction and horror like this?

>>162640693
Just do a little of everything. Most crops are seasonal, so you can just have a few small plots to rotate between them. Keep in mind that plumps are the only subterranean crop that's ready to eat right out of the ground. Sweet pods, cave wheat and quarry bush are all edible afrer processing, and their products make for some very valuable prepared meals.

>>162640693
Pig tails. You can't et them, but they can be brewed AND woven into cloth. Dimple cups can be milled into blue dye wich you can put into cloth to give it a higher value, but if you're new to the game I wouldn't recommend messing with it just now.

>>162637492
Good luck senpai, go at your own pace
>literally anything i want is possible
It really is going to be the definitive simulation

>>162640693
Aboveground crops. Dorfs can prefer eating aboveground stuff, and some of those can be turned into alcohol. You can get seeds from using up plants you dorfs gather outside.

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Question: Why isn't this farm recognizing mud? I built a pump to flood the field, and when i K inspect the ground it says there's mud, but the farm tiles won't confirm it.

>haven't touched the game in like a year or two
>want to play again
>dwarf therapist has apparently been out of date for like 6 months or something now
Am I missing something, and it's somewhere else? Have people just learned to play without it? Because that sounds like utter hell.

>>162641885
It is. The message is misleading. See how the X's where you're trying to build the plot are green? That means you can build the plot, which you would be unable to do if it wasn't valid spot for farming.
Also, it appears that you were already on soil. There was no need to irrigate.

>>162642418
I was on soil, I used the pump because of the "no mud" message. I thought it was weird because I haven't played in a while but I remember only needing to irrigate stone. Is the message just a bug?

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>>162639030
In my limited experience all dwarves who have had enough to drink react like that.

>>162641885
If you're using anything like the default tileset .png files will pretty much always have very much smaller filesizes than .jpg, even moreso if you run them through optipng, which comes bundled with DF. For example compare my picture to yours.

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How would you feel if one day toady decided to add rudimentary gunpowder to the game?

Complete with rudimentary firearms/cannons/powder kegs?

What stockpile category does paper slurry go to?

>>162642582
More of a strange quirk than a bug, because IIRC, there's an additional message that shows when you REALLY can't build the farm.

>>162641157
my thanks friend.

>>162642905
Not sure since I buy all my paper, but my guess would be the furniture stock pile, like the sand bags. It's in a container, isn't it?

>>162642891
I dunno about other people but I'd love it. Imagine if technological development could go to the renaissance age instead of stay at medieval.

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>>162642891
>Dwarf with gun sights goblin
>Shoots
>Good chance of missing or hitting other dorfs.
>Goblin sprints and kills him
Not really good for dwarf fortress, though maybe using TNT for mining sounds cool.
>explosive skill
>Can shape the charge to give it a specific explosion radius
>If the skill is very low this may fail
>Leading to too big or too small explosions
>Or maybe an early detonation

>>162642891
Confused
Toady has showed doubts about adding gunpowder
As it goes away in the time period the game is set into
>inb4 japan had steel
We all know the arguments, this has been discused in the past
Ask Toady, not us

Anyway, dont worry too much, he showed no special concerns about making alchemists create explosive substances

>>162643526
Yet alchemists have been gone for years.

what is the benefit of turning quires into codecies?

>>162642905
I don't know but why would you be stockpiling it anyway instead of taking it straight from the millstone/quern to the press?

>>162643592
I mean, in magic ridden worlds there is some market space for them dont you think

>>162643620
they be cooler
nothing else for now

>>162643654
I did put it straight to the press, but that doesnt mean it doesn't go into a stockpile in the meantime, and I'd prefer it go into my papermaking stockpile.

>>162643412
Im more excited about the chemical properties that every material should have so proper explosive stuff is created

>Go to the raws
>Now all elves are as flammable as paper, they suddenly start burning without reason, causing hilarity to the dwarves
or
>All elves now taste extremely sugar. Dragons devour them now, and they get butchered by ethic-less civs for their meat

>>162642891
>>162643390
Yeah, that'd be nice.

Do different civs have different languages?

>>162644043
Different races have different languages, but every civ of the same race has the same language.

>>162644043
>>162644459
Civs do have individual differences though, like technologies, domesticated animals, names of coins (Money from one civ won't be accepted in another civ), and eventually different cultural dishes.

>>162642000
Dwarf therapist is nowhere near as essential as you make it out to be. It's useful in a select few instances but you're better off learning the default interface, unless you enjoy moaning about not having it.

>>162645537
>Migrant wave of 40
Without Rapist
>Have to sort out who's a migrant and who's not
>Look at each one of them to figure out what skills they have
>Then have to individually set their labours using DFs clunky AI
With Rapist
>Get a neat tab with all your new migrants
>Simple square interface shows skills
>Can mass select individuals
>Also tells you if any equipment is missing

>>162645396
>technologies
Not really. They have different RNG'd instruments, though.

Also, depending on the clothing values in the raws, each civ will have a kind of "national costume" consisting of a set of randomly picked clothes. This means that there is some diversity even among civs of the same race. In some human civs almost everyone wear turbans and robes, and in some civs everyone wear caps and tunics, et cetera.

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>>162635765
>Using a non-square tileset

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>>162646407
problem?

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>>162646407
>Using a square tileset

>>162645892
>Have to sort out who's a migrant and who's not
when they arrive, in the (u)nit list it lists all the migrants

>Look at each one of them to figure out what skills they have
you could do that, or you could just see what their profession name is and assume from there, shown in the (u)nit list with nice color codes and all.

>Then have to individually set their labours using DFs clunky AI
only if you get something like bee keepers, or already have too many masons or something. And even then it's hardly all of them, unless you feel the need to be so anal about it so that you literally go through everyone of them.

>>162646743
>when they arrive, in the (u)nit list it lists all the migrants
So if i'm not quick enough to sort them or don't feel like doing it instantly i'm fucked?
>>162646743
Yea, expect half the time they have secondary skills, especially the military ones
>only if you get something like bee keepers, or already have too many masons or something. And even then it's hardly all of them, unless you feel the need to be so anal about it so that you literally go through everyone of them.
So now wanting dwarves to do specific jobs is anal?
Last time i checked having your mason go gelding because you couldn't check all of them was anal.

>>162647089
>Last time i checked having your mason go gelding because you couldn't check all of them was anal.
That's the opposite of anal.

>>162647456
Ok, then it's retarded.

>>162647089
It's not really the end of the world if you don't personally assign every dorf to the perfect labor every time. It's not anal to check whose the best dwarf for the job, but it is anal to literally check everyone and put them to the most optimal job every time. At that point you should open a calculating program and do some excel sheets and start drawing blueprints while you're at it, wouldn't want to build unnecessary corridors.
Of course not telling you how to play, just saying that that level of control is unnecessary in what is pretty much a glorified ant farm at this point.

>>162646524
Ugly! Beautiful!
I hate it! I love it!
Kill yourself! Make a square version!

>>162644043
yeah, but everyone is pentalingual it seems
Someone suggested on the forums once that abilities for each language should be added.
Dwarves would be born with dwarf language( or quicly learning it sine birth, feral dwarfs ftw) and if they wanted to communicate with another civ, they should learn their language, or use diplomats
Learning a foreigner language would simply require listening to gibberish from other races, and eventually, patches of the stuff they tell would start appearing as your language.
With enough time, you'd understand everything they say to you
This also adds the possibility of people not talking to you, or that the people that speak to you can verbalize so badly you wouldnt understand them

>his fortress symbol is an elf getting mutilated by a dwarf

>>162635528
If you're actually the dude that posted boats every thread, then keep in mind that, in the end, nobody cares about your posts. They might say it's cute when you do it, but you're extremely forgettable.

>>162650602
Who are you?

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>>162629879

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Phrase said by my homossexual expedition leader. Not sure if coincidence or sentience

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Ah yes, the dining room.

>>162648981
Quadrilingual, really. Kobolds and animal people don't have a language. They have [UTTERANCES], which means they speak with gibberish or glossolalia.

>>162642891
Honestly it shouldn't be in as any kind of gun/cannon.
The only thing that may fit is an explosive that's built as a thing on a tile. Will destroy a n x n x n area around it when triggered. Can be useful in some mining situations and for invaders. Cannons are unneeded, frankly, with other siege machinery already there, it's them that should be focused on to work better (>90 degrees)

>>162651749
wat happing

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>>162650602
I'M POASTING GOTE

>>162651215
An anon.
I mean, if you're trying to prove that he's memorable because I remembered who he was when someone brought him up, then congrats to him I guess. I definitely remembered something from less than a month ago.

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Tired of dealing with endless rocks cluttering my floor

Once I get some migrants to start doing cleaning, what's the fastest way to get rid of, say, a dining room covered in rocks?

>>162651749
if only we had a drawfag that specialized in drawing sceneries from the game...
>>162651934
>glossolalia
now thats a word I didnt know
>>162650602
Im actually not him m8, you were just being rude

>>162653128
Maybe a compacted storage room...
Like a dumping zone?

>>162653128
d b h

>>162653128
Turn them into blocks, then use the blocks to build watchtowers/walls/megaprojects/elaborate multi-tile fuck-off-elves monuments(fuckprojects), or just cover the surface in smooth rock to prevent too many filthy trees from growing.
Any of these options will require shitloads of blocks, and after it's done you'll wonder where all the rock went now that you need to build coffins and memorials.

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>>162653593
>if only we had a drawfag that specialized in drawing sceneries from the game...
A drawfag with a name inspired by a certain west African city, perhaps?

>>162654385
That's not a bad thing to do by any means, but it's also not a solution to his problem.
>I have too many rocks!
>Turn them into 4x as many rocks!

>>162655070
It's a long-term solution, innit?

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I haven't heard any good challenges lately, gib me something

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>>162625636
>biotite
>posting a shit mineral
>instead of posting best girl

>>162655070
They seems to fit nicely into bins though

>>162655181
Enter war with humans & elves as soon as possible
No helm plumps
no rock blocks
embark in a site with only copper and silver

>>162655215
Why would biotite be shit? Is it because it's common? Isn't plagioclase far more common?

I just like mica in general. Seeing it stick out of rocks is cool af.

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>>162655215
>>162655635

>>162654550
???????

>>162655958
Drew doing it, honestAnon doing it, ninedots doing it, these would all be great. We have an embarrassment of awesome drawfags.

Im trying to clear out a hamlet that was taken over by bandits but I can't find the bandits anywhere, where would they be?

>Let computer on at night to generate a large world and 1050 years of history.
>End up playing on a small maps with 5 RL minutes of history.

>>162656314
I like to generate smaller worlds with 1500 years of history.

>>162656138
ye, my doubt was who of them had a name like 'a west african city'

>>162655635
Shit taste

>>162655168
I guess if you're doing a small fort it is. Even moderately sized forts will produce boulders at a rate that exceeds any possible demand for blocks.

>>162655181
Build cage traps. After you catch a breeding pair of any two wild animals, deconstruct all your cage traps. Add [TRAINABLE], [CAN_LEARN] and [SLOW_LEARNER] to that animal's raws. War animals of that species are now your only allowed defense. No traps, no military, no walling off allowed. Bonus points if you embark in a low savagery region.

How do I tell one of my dwarves to go to the hospital?

He has a smashed and now infected toe but won't stop working

>>162656438
timbukdrew - timbuktu

>>162659779
You can't. The only thing you can do at this point is build a beautiful coffin to that dwarf. Dwarves only go to the hospital when they have severe wounds (Broken arms, severed leg, spilled guts, etc.)

Mac tec support pls halp

Game fills the finder up with files, I know this can be prevented somehow.

>>162659941
Fuck, he's a legendary macedwarf, wrestler and fighter

I had a siege from necro tower which was 2 groups of undead and bandits. Is it just randomness being weird or necromancer actually compelled a group of rogues/mercenaries to join him? Will this be reflected in legends?

>>162659801
:^). No
I would prefer HonestAnon

>>162660754
Drawfags 101 - Appreciate what you have. Don't be picky.

>>162660754
>betraying ol' timbuk for the newcomer

>>162661228
>>162661235
dont be like that
Timbuk is awesome for beings interaction, extreme history knowledge and relaxing style

9dots is awesome at surrealism, thought-provoking and wide sceneries

HonestAnon is awesome at painting selected scenes from the game as if it were from your imagination

each one is awesome in their own way

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>>162661728

>>162659941
They'll go for nearly any injury greater than a bruise. They won't go back after they've been treated for that injury unless they're injured again. That's his problem.

>>162659779
A longstanding bug is that some tissues that ought to be healable aren't. This includes nails. He's probably already been treated for the wound, but the tissue can't heal on its own so he'll eventually die from infection or bleeding (if it's still bleeding). You might be able to save him; go into tissue_templates.txt in your save's raw/objects folder, and add [HEALING_RATE:1000] to the entry for nail. Add it to cartilage, claw, and talon while you're at it. Check to make sure it's supposed to have the underscore, I can never remember.

Do you guys plan the layout of your forts or just build what you need when you need it?

>>162661883
Ok I'm still confused, is Indianon Jones frownanon AND comfyanon or was that just me misremembering something?

>>162662948
I start with a rough plan and then freehand around it. I never dig/build anything out of necessity, as my forts are always large enough to accomodate any amount of industry expansion my population could sustain.

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>>162662981
I made the adventurer travel log a few months back, and I plan on doing another one soon, but in another world.

I also play with my comfyset, so yeah.

>>162663652
Ok, so we need comfybro doing travel maps/layouts, honestAnon doing up close nitty gritty, Drew doing character designs, and colors/environment by ninedots.

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Does anyone know of a way within the base game to expedite the process of building individual rooms for dwarves and designating them as bedrooms? I'm getting tired of placing all the beds, chests, cabinets, and doors manually, and then going back and setting them all as bedrooms.

Macros maybe?

Also, what should I build next?
1. Hospital
2. Jail
3. Temple
4. Tavern
5. Library

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>>162664375
>those gulag bedrooms

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>Enjoying nice scenery of cool location
>Just pass the second migration wave
>Get a master engraver by chance
>Everyone's happy with beautiful dining room and bedrooms now being smoothed and engraved at light speed
>Engraver turns into weretortoise
>Slaughters fortress

Sigh

>>162664375
Macros would probably do it, and I think there was some way to do it with quickfort. I personally don't find it tedious, so I've never tried either method.
Is that list things you've already done, or things you have left to do?

>>162666593
Things I'm deciding between building next. Although I already started working on a jail, but its getting close to done

>>162666671
Tavern/temple/library ought to be your priorites. You should get them up and running way sooner than you have, as your starting 7 and first migrant wave are probably all already approaching distraction. But really you shouldn't have to decide between any of those. You've got enough workers that you should be able to designate the spaces for everything on your list and have it done within a few minutes. Then it's literally just plopping down some zones and a few pieces of furniture.

Why isn't this working? It should translate to "make up to 10 thrones if we have less than 5" but my mason is going ham and filling my stockpiles.

It's weird, because I have another conditional work order for tables that uses the same setup, and that one works.

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>>162667634
captcha ate my image

>>162663510
Would you mind posting one of your forts?
I'm currently looking for some design inspirations

How do I improve my storytelling skills in adventure mode?

>>162668057
tell stories

>>162668057
By telling stories. For reference, the skill is called "speaker"

>>162642891
Better yet, I want the game to have tech based on world age. Started too soon in world gen? No metallurgy for you, enjoy your bone armor and sharp sticks.

>>162667887
I'm not at home currently, but there are a couple of screenshots of my fort upthread. I don't know how helpful they'll be in terms of inspiration, though.

>>162592084
>>162594989

It would take ~140 screenshots to post my whole fort, but a webm or two would probably represent it better. If you aren't looking for a longterm project it probably wouldn't be helpful.

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>>162667887
here I'll post some of my layouts or layout ideas. I've got a circle fetish.

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>>162670682

>>162661883
yeah, yeah, and Frown-Anon should be actually be hired by some famous magazine to do comics, geez

>>162670682
SHUT IT DOWN

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>>162670867

If you forbid jail doors, can they still be used by the guard for prisoners?

>>162671126
No.

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>>162671041

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>>162671478
pic related current fort

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>>162671642
going to engrave just the bedrooms on these floors eventually, I think it'll look pretty dope.

>>162671819
Looks good and thanks for the help m8

>>162671642
hey that's pretty good

>>162671478
>>162671642
>>162671819
That reminds me of circular hobbit burrows. Nice!

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>>162671305
as a follow up: how do i stop kids from hanging out in my jail cells?

>>162673610
a child does what it pleases, you monster.

>>162673610
Reminds me of that oglaf.

>I'm strewing shit around like raccoons got up in there!
>Oh please sir, leave it as you found it!
>What's that? I can't hear you over the sound of crap falling all over the place.

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>>162673610
teach them a lession they won't forget

>>162602417
traps

>>162673812
Urist has been saddened by a massive slur on his personal conduct lately.

Why do my companions keep running off scared when I try to get them to confront a dragon

>>162673610
>>162673753
This is just like m- some japanese games. I just heard about them I swear.

>>162675662
Two kids, a boy and a girl, drinking beer in an isolated jail cell

what could go wrong

>>162675640
because its a fucking dragon.

Unless your companions are high-level, they're smart enough to realize that they ain't dealing with that shit.

>>162675786
*Are a high enough level to stand a chance.

>>162675640
Discipline is what they need. Get them some combat experience under their belts before taking them to fight dragons. Start with some wildlife, then hit a labyrinth under a town. Any survivors should be hardened enough not to run. Unless they're cowards.

Playing adventure mode as a fluffy wambler when?

Guys I just found an underground cave while diggibg with my dorfs.
What is the purpose of these?

>>162677512
What is the purpose of a mountain? There is no purpose, they are geological features.

>>162677512
You must conquer it. To own every scrap of dirt and every pebble stone between the sky and That Which Lies Below is the destiny of the dwarf.

>>162677512
Keep digging until you find some blue ore called Adamantine. You can make the best weapons and armor in the game out of it, so make sure to mine every last piece when you find it.

>>162677613
But it has underground trees and stuff.
I bet the elves did this.

>>162677805
I was thinking of exploring it first but that sounds good.

>>162677880
Will do thanks for the advice.
How does iron actually hold up?
I have three squads fully fitted in iron equipment and I have enough iron for 5-6 more.

>>162678548
>How does iron actually hold up?
It's just okay. Iron and bronze are mid-tier, steel is high tier, and the sweet, sweet blue stuff is tops. Or bottoms, I guess.

>>162679010
Note that this is correct, but steel and platinum are better for warhammers and maces, as adamantine is an extremely lightweight metal.

>>162679362
>platinum
Silver, you mean. Platinum is only available for weapons with either modding or excellent luck/careful micromanagement of a strange mood before you've dug adamantine.

>>162679804
Yeah sorry, I meant silver

Steam engines/power in DF

Yes/no? Why/why not?

not steampunk you fucks, just steam engines

One of my soldiers just killed another soldier with his hands and says he is feeling zealous after punishing someone with a beating.

Is there any way to see what the fight was about?

I'm thinking of having him killed

>>162680502
So what, you'd feed coal and water to a machine in exchange for power? What'd be the point over a water wheel?

>>162681234
Don't need flowing water

>>162681227

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Justice#Punishments

>>162681396
But flowing water is insanely easy to acquire. Even in an aquifer-less desert, you can just dig to the cavern and arrange for a perpetual machine with a pump or two, and the water wheel.
I also kinda doubt you'd ever have stagnant water allowing you to use the machine without also having flowing water or being capable of making it flow.

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>>162676838

Uh, I think my fortress is home to Urist McMarx. I have a philosopher scholar who keeps writing books about social welfare and state consequentialism. I checked his personality traits and he "finds the acquisition and use of power abhorrent and would have all masters toppled."

What do I do? I can't have this guy started some kind of commie dwarven uprising.

>>162618071
Was just looking over and thinking about this more.

Being able to set up as a peddler, transport shit around the world, new opportunities for criminal playthroughs, escorting groups on a pilgrimage, mmmhmmm.

>>162682045
>implying your fort isn't already composed of a heavily socialized working class controlled by a capitalistic nobility
dwarves aren't marxist, but they're as "communist" as north korea is, if not more-so since there's no micro-economy within the fort. in fact a dwarf fort functions almost exactly like how the norks function.

>A VILE FORCE OF DARKNESS APPEARS
>50 goblins and 10 trolls this time
>send squad of 10 soldiers
>invaders wiped out without my dwarves even getting wounded

>>162686414
Well, what are they armed and armored with?

>>162686579
Adamantine, they also have trained for 8 years

>>162655519
>silver
>incredibly valuable for trade
>insanely good for hammers
>challenging

>>162686750
Well what the fuck did you think would happen?
You've got combat masters in top-tier gear against shitter goblins wearing what's probably iron (at best) armor and armed with shit like copper scourges.

>>162686987
Will there be anything more challening?

Thinking of just abandoning the fort desu

>>162687101
If you have adamentine you already know the answer.

I made a fort earlier today, started it back up, got 26 dwarves so far.
An undead siege just started. Am I fucked? I paused it and haven't done anything about it yet.

>>162687550
Build a wall to seal yourself in and don't kill anything.
I hope you have water and your fort.

>>162687550
can't really do much to clear out undead from a new fort without using traps or crushing them with bridges.

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>>162687101
>adamantite armor
>"anything more challenging"
You know what you have to do anon.
You know who can help you end the boredom in these dwaves' existence.

>>162689738
I'm thinking either digging to hell

Or letting my one isolated werebison dwarf get back to society and see what follows

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>werellama comes to attack my fort
>raise the drawbridge before he gets inside
>apparently decides to take a swim while waiting for my guys to starve or something
>changes back into a regular dwarf in the middle of the river
>drowns
Everything went better than expected.

Do immigrants ever come from underground? I'm getting constant alerts that a couple of my dwarves are cancelling small animal hunts because they dont have a path available. Usually they look for vermin when they're starving right?

If I go to the alerts page and hit "zoom to location" it takes the camera like 80 z-levels down.

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>>162692020
Hmmm, maybe they got lost down there?

>>162692991
I haven't dug down to the cave layer, the "zoom to location" thing just goes to a flat black layer.

Also I should clarify there's no reason whatsoever for them to be starving if they aren't trapped somewhere, I have something like 7,000 surplus food. No idea how they got there though.

>>162693145
Hmmm, do you have any sections where sparring dorfs could teleport through a wall and fall down into the caverns?

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>>162693568
I have a barracks where my military trains, but it's not anywhere near the cave layer. Also the disappeared dwarves aren't in the military

>>162655070
I thought it was one rock = one block

>>162693990
1 rock = 4 blocks

What do you guys do when first starting a new fort.
Do you have some sort of check list you follow?

>>162681915
oh fug
Can you play as a dog? Or a megabeast?

>>162696590
Dig down
Farm food
Build trade depot

>>162698359
yes.
Even play as your created things.

>>162698359
Playing as a beast isn't as cool as you might think. The sabertooth in that screenshot is a giant lion sized bastich with big saber fangs I added in and I made them semi-megabeasts for the fuck of it.

>stalk into town getting ready to start eating people
>everyone flips their shit the instant you load on the screen
>can't go anywhere without the psychic "OH SHIT A SEMIMEGA" effect working

Is this what cipher meant when he says he doesn't even see the code anymore?

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>>162665394
>being decadent
Reported for bourgeois tendencies.

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Created my first world in the current version of DF, and stumbled upon this gem of a demon in Legends mode. He is currently the head of a goblin bandit group whose sole member and leader is himself, and has taken refuge in an abandoned human hamlet.

Things like this seem to happen much more rarely in the current version. I miss strongholds and I miss regularly seeing demons in control of human civs. I don't think I've seen a demon mistaken for a deity by humies even once since version 42.01, but this is a welcome development.

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>>162700918

As I recall, demons even once wrote books if they took over a human site, which they would leave all over the place. And they could even become slaves in worldgen. Once, in 34.11, I even had a companion that was a demon, which I pulled off by finding and freeing him from slavery under his human overlords. We absolutely annihilated everything that was thrown at us for weeks as increasingly large groups of goblins began attacking us in the night, until one day we both were entombed in ice trying to cross to a new continent during Winter. Was the first time I encountered the "sudden giant wall of ice encroaching on you as night falls" bug, and it was super scary.

That's another thing, I really miss the massive groups of gobbos and bandits that would hunt you down simply for being a famous hero. World simulation is super cool and satisfying, but I have to admit I miss the more game-ey mechanics. I would die happy if guaranteed escalating sieges and attacks on adventurers were a to be a toggleable option in DF v1.0.

>>162701081
People hunting you is something that'll be coming back with the artifact stuff at least to some extent. He put the quests and stuff back in with proper fame for them too now.

I did add [POWER] to various intelligent mega and semimegas and they take over sites and impersonate deities now all the time.

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>>162653593
Truly a mess to behold.

>>162701937
>loldixchair
Was that actually for the request cause daaaang, or should I say, OOOOHHH

>>162682045
step one: build a tower
step two: build something resembling a helicopter and connect it to the top of the tower
step three: put marx in the helicopter
step four: destroy the supports connecting the helicopter to the tower.

It's not pushing him out of a helicopter, but it's about as close as you're gonna get in df.

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>>162703427
Thanks!
It was.
OOOOOHHHH

>>162701937
daaang

>>162687101
deadly dust you noob

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>>162700918
>>162701081
So has anyone here actually managed to do the thing where you learn a demon's name then banish it to hell? Sounds cool af

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>>162705781
Yeah, I've also bound them to service and tried to set up a couple's resort since there were male/female pairs of hedgehog fiends and hedgehog demons on this one world.

>>162703757
Timbukdrew stepping up the game!

how long does 4/7 water take to evaporate?

>>162706681
It won't unless it's in a really high temp area. It only evaporates at 1/7 otherwise.

>>162706681
Even 3/7 doesn't evaporate, I use that for my dorfwash and with them running through all the time plus periodic pump cleaning it stays at 3/7 for years in game.

>>162711379
gross

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>>162711379

>>162711548
don't ever reply to me again.

how 2 nickname dorfs

>>162713279
I just call them bad words
(v)iew the dwarf then press zyn

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>banter an elf or an ooman
>they come back with this

ump

Joel about to start streaming the start of his second fort in twitch. Thought he was going to wait for the update, guess he got bored of waiting.

/vargskelethor

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>>162717719
wtf

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>>162717719
its a go

>>162717719
these meme shit is ridiculous
4chan has become a twitch comments section

>>162718297
It's twitch, what did you expect?

Anyone has an idea when the update is coming out?
Also where can I see what is getting added to fortress mode in the update?

>>162719143
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev.html

no idea, hopefully before next year.

i hope dfhack updates quick for the update

remember that one update that took like 3 years or something

>>162721572
>remembering someone of something
>can't remember it himself

2 years. June 2012 to July 2014.

>>162721749
I looked it up in the archives, and I was actually thinking of Sept 2008 (0.28.181.40d, around the time I started playing) to April 2010 (0.31.01)

>>162706567
Have you checked back on the couples? Has sufficient time passed?

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>>162722859
>>162723735
Love these.

So anon what can dwarfs who know myths do with that knowledge ?

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My dwarves are not as good at firefighting as I had hoped.

Can you save some FPS by disabling remains on vermin that cats can hunt and kill? Those remains are useless and never generate miasma, right?

>>162727379
>dwarf cancel firefighting interrupted by : fire

>>162728403
No. Vermin remains disappear quickly enough that they'll never be a significant source of fps loss. Even in extreme cases, like right after breaching a cavern 3 with a high creepy crawler pop, you'll never have more than a couple hundred at a time, which is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to the tens of thousands of items you're likely to build up over the course of a fort. You would save more fps by killing all your cats. Or just one cat.

Can I remove all corpses from map with some dfHack command?

>>162731582
You don't need dfhack to get rid of corpses. Just use an atom smasher.

>>162731675
But there are hundreds of corpses after a forgotten beast made one of caves his playground\hunting resort. It will take ages to get rid of all that mess!

Do you guys use minecarts a lot?

>>162589060
Bees actually migrate you dumbfuck.

>>162732964
I use them for QSPs and repeaters more than their intended purpose. There aren't many situations where a minecart's intended function is more efficient than a few dwarves with wheelbarrows.

Is there a way to edit the inis to disable cave mold spreading after you pierce the cavern layer?

>>162736451
Not the .init files, no. You may have some luck if you have DFHack but otherwise just build floors over any dirt tiles.

one of my militia dwarves got bit by a werewolf and I want to kill him, but I'm semi-new at playing and realized I haven't intentionally killed one of my own dwarves before? What's the best way to do it? Can I designate a burrow for him at the bottom of a river?

>>162734449
No you dumbfuck they stop flying and hobble together for heat. Are you retarded?

>>162683610
>You can play DF irl
>Just need to kill Kim Jong Un and replace with yourself

What awesome reality we live in

>>162724641
One of each pair kept wandering back to their (destroyed) dark fortresses.

>>162740004
Ah that's a shame. I hope that one day the game will be able to recognise when something is trapped when not observed. I'm not holding out any hope though, I'm sure it would be a nightmare coding scenario.

>>162683610
Are you retarded?

>>162721749
>remembering someone of something
>can't remember it himself
I see that you are trying to get acostumed to the new rumor system

Stages of knowing something
>knowing it yourself
>seeing somebody else knowing it at a location with your own eyes
>hearing from somebody that somebody was knowing it at a location recently
>hearing from somebody that somebody knows it (but not where)
>generally knowing in some legendsy fashion that it is said to be known by somebody
>and not having any idea.

>>162739806
>Knowing only one specific type of Bee.

Dumbass.