/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

>>162308505
Also, Fireden.net is down. Has it been down for a while? If so, I'll start looking around for a new archive.

>>162308638
In all the years I've been coming to this general I've never been to a link between the wiki and "this pasta". If I'm at all representative of the rest of /dfg/, then maybe replacing it is unnecessary.

>>162309338
Maybe. It's mostly there because it's always been there.

Guys what if in the myth and magic update, Toady connects the eerie glowing pits to a place even deeper than hell

>>162309510
Oh shit
Imagine that in adventure mode if you get powerful enough you can go to hell and see whats in the glowing pits
Or in fortress mode you can have a magic dwarf that can actually go into the pit and survive

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>>162309510
Underhell? Seems kinda silly, just connect them to alternate dimensions with those intestine dwarves being drowned by ghosts in bile.

>>162309510
Like uh... Superhell? Megahell? Infrahell?

>>162309986
>that filename

What happen

>>162310210
Look at the year.

>>162310454
Weirdest birthday ever, lemme tell ya.

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>A VILE FORCE OF DARKNESS APPEARS
>10 goblins and 7 trolls this time
>order squad of 2 archers to top of tower at fort entrance
>when the enemy comes one of them jump down 5 z-levels instead of shooting
>he shatters knee on impact with ground
>loses conscience and is surrounded by foes hitting him
>his friend also jumps down but lands perfectly
>proceeds to kill everything except 1 troll fleeing in horror in a matter of seconds
>his friend is somehow not dead and is carried to the hospital
>after hours of care he wakes up and instantly goes to spar

I have 40 more dwarves just like these two, is there anything that can bring my fort down?

apart from digging too deep

>>162309510
Phobos

>>162311613
fps death

why the FUCK is nothing happening when i assign jobs. i can't cut trees or gather plants, my dwarves just fucking stand around.

>>162312845
Maybe they just don't like you.

>I improved my fighting. That was very satisfying!
>Entrails has bled to death.

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>>162309510
I desire to know what this is.

Can you cook in adventure mode or something? How do I satisfy "eat a decent meal" need?

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>>162315607
This guy means business.

>>162315607
>>162317053
whoops, didn't mean to reply

>>162316907
Eat a preferred food. It doesn't have to be cooked.

>>162317053
This is the kind of beast you catch using bridges and path towards invaders. Probably worse than a bronze colossus desu.

>>162316907
You set intemperance to the absolute minimum because you can't fulfill it with an adventurer unless you want to dfhack roasts up or something, they don't work from reactions alone.

>>162313540
>Gruesome wounds. I must press on!
>Guts have been severed

>>162309510
We have "heaven" and hell

Purgatory?

Can someone kind of give me a size scale of a Elephant Man? I know they have somewhere like 35 times the amount of volume as a human, but I'm having trouble actually imaging the scope of my adventurer's size.

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>>162317194
I have other plans.

>>162317194
what about an adamantine colossus

>>162317604
Not a possible thing without modding. Unless you gave them some sharp attacks they would be a lot less effective than you might imagine.

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>>162317549
The forgotten beast is in the water. I might get to obsidianize it. Also this bugbat is having a hell of a day.

>>162317713
A slade colossus on the other hand is a fucking nightmare.

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>>162319376
Wtf I love bugbats now. They're baiting the beast toward the oncoming magma.

Got a 6 pack to myself tonight. How can I turn DF into a drinking game?

>>162320146
>identify meme reference: drink
>dorf does something stupid: drink
>dorf drinks: drink twice
>dorf dies: drink three times
>dorf dies of alcohol poisoning: chug

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>>162319713
Bax got out of the water, but now it's surrounded by fire and magma. Marcasite isn't firesafe.

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>leave world-gen going for a couple hours
>nap
>walk the dog
>get back
>stop it at 999
>disgonbegud.webm
>load save
>loading occupations...
>two minutes later
>loading occupations.....
>dang

>>162320403
I just noticed you don't have varied ground tiles on, and for some reason am disappoint.

>>162320770
I like your style honestanon.

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>>162320785
God what a frustrating thing.

>1.375 GB memory used
>still takes a dickyear

You need an anvil to make an anvil?
But where did the original anvil come from?
This is what is known as an "uncaused cause."
Hail to the Anvil God, Father to every anvil.

>>162320403
Well fuck. Bax has just proceeded to desperately parkour all around my damn cavern and has successfully avoided all of the fire and magma. He's back in the water where the magma is unlikely to reach before it runs out. I guess I'll reload and try again.

>>162320785
>varied ground tiles
Ew. That's almost as bad as using a rectangular tileset.

>>162320146
you can't really do much with a 6 pack my man
that's probably like a single serving for a dwarf

>>162322285
sadly, I lack superior dwarven genes that grant me an ironclad liver.

>>162320146
Start a marksdwarf training program. Set bolt production on repeat. Every time you see an "equipment mismatch" announcement take a swig.

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>>162317529
probly looking at something like this in comparison to a dwarf, 41x the mass.

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>>162313540
Maybe Entrails could come back next tourney, as a new and improved "Black Swordsman Entrails"

It seems I'm a retard. How do I run this in ubuntu?

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>>162322034
You're just trying to get my hangry up here aren't you?

>>162324739
replace it with windows 7 t b h

>>162313540
the tourney had a lot of anime-esque moments

>>162325291
What the fucking fuckity fuck shit did he do to you to deserve that? Rape your grandmother to death at your wedding before molesting your niece with granny's wooden leg?

How do I change the skin material of a bronze colossus to something like Adamantine or Steel with DFhack? Or can I only do it by editing Raws?

>>162324739
"I'm feeling a little stuffy, might have a cold." (caught a case of ubuntu)
'Well, you could eat some soup, and drink some nyquil.' (install literally any other linux distribution)
>>162325291
"Nah man, I know what you need to do bro, take this needle full of aids and shoot it right in your balls!" (installing an old as fuck windows version)

More seriously though, open a terminal, cd to your df folder, probably either df_linux or .dwarffortress, there should be a df file in there, and if you have dfhack installed there will also be a dfhack file in there, run ./df or ./dfhack and it'll launch. If you installed through the package manager you could probably also just type dwarffortress directly but it won't launch dfhack if you're wanting it.

>>162326675
windows 7 is flawless.

>>162326859
why is vista afraid of 7
because 7 8 9

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>>162326859
Imagine I put a picture of someone staring for a second before busting into laughter here.

Just passing through to say that this is my favorite general. Someday I'll sit my lazy ass down and create a new fort with some whacky megaproject for your entertainment

>>162327782
:c

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>>162329041
>show up for work my first day
>mfw my lady realizes she has no face

>get a huge goblin siege
>scared but it's going really well, they're dying by the dozens, even get in a few well times ballista bolts that caused huge damage to their ranks
>game crashes
>reload
>a few things go slightly differently and I end up slaughtered
TOOOOAAAAADYYYYYYY

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>>162330663
Could be worse.

>discover the bandits about to mug someone are actually a couple dozen weapon lords
>bumrush one off the ledge over the well area
>wade in and start hacking and bashing and fling them around with my trunk
>enjoying the chaos as I'm hacking away at the weapon lords while casually removing the facial features of a lowly axeman elf
>toss him into the crowd
>keep murdering
>get carried away and don't notice how many there were
>game freezes due to too many attacks queued up at once

>>162330663
No hard feelings: the joint/armour damage update made the sieges much harder.

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>>162331265
FUUUUUUUUUUuuccccccckkkkk, I knew I didn't feel like checking to see when last time I saved was. Back before finding where the dragon I had just killed was, or getting anywhere near that hamlet. Bleh.

>>162330663
Did Toady ever allow goblins to tunnel/dig out walls to penetrate your fort's defenses? I haven't played in a while but I thought this was going to be a thing

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Posting this while I still can.

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>artifact release

A dorf got a mood and made a pimp-ass artifact bow.

The hell do i do with it?

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>>162333008
The smiles and whatnot are bretty gewd.

>>162333082
Hit him with it unless you can make arrows and get them to use it?

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>>162330663

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the truth

>>162332230
No. He actually never finished the alleged military arc that all this overworld stuff was supposed to be about nearly a decade ago.

>>162317713
yeah, but they would be inmortal
Or If the creature was a giant sentient adamantine sword, he could just tackle people and bisect them
>>162319557
Truly a monstrousity, gods would fall easier than him

>>162320770
please keep drawing, your style is the comfiest shit ever
>>162320950
he has a name? great, a new folder for my archives

>>162323598
>that massive dick
can't wait for interbreeding logistics
thanks honestanon

>>162332230
It's still planed, dont worry for atleast 4 years more, hehehe
>>162330663
>>162331982
Honest question, should joint damage be nerfed?
>>162333038
Its gonna change the game so much, and it even isnt such a big update

>>162336379
>Honest question, should joint damage be nerfed?
I don't think so honestly. It's appropriate and both the player and adversaries can use it to their advantage.

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>>162336379
>Honest question, should joint damage be nerfed?
A bit.

It would be fun to see more actual broken and dislocated joints, and less torn nerves.

Also, it should probably be balanced so that it doesn't favour the larger force as much as it currently does.

Before joint damage, the battle in DF was basically Dynasty Warriors, with a small militia slashing down gobbos left and right, while every lucky hit the gobbos got ended up deflected or just leaving a bruise. Now, even one of those lucky hits will easily cripple even a legendary soldier on the spot, making your militia much more vulnerable against the gobbo hordes.

It might be more realistic, but it's not always very fun.

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>>162336928
I agree with you, but the problem is not too realism, the problem is the lack of realism

You see, most hits to the head shouldnt end up in broken necks, the neck actually have some very thick layers of fat, muscle and tendons, not to talk about the thickness of the vertebrae itself
A direct hit should break those tendons and ligaments before breaking the neck, as you point out with dislocation stuff
The current system is actually like having a crystal neck sorrounded by flesh. Yeah, you'r neck will survive, but with any moderately strong hit, your spine will shatter, and that isnt realistic

Although I love the combat system, there should be more proper escalation in a fight, not too much, because combat isnt like the movies, but people should definitely freak out about having blood come out of their throats and stuff like that, you get me?
Having some fly-man suddenly break your neck with a thrown spoon is hilarious, but only the first three times

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>>162336379
>train my attributes by swimming, knapping, throwing rocks, hunting animals for 3 hours
>become hero of my town by killing whatever my lord wants
>bretty gud, gonna gather an army and assault the dark fortress in a bit
>lucky bite from night hobo
>motor nerve severed
>Ability to stand lost

I felt like the guy from Born in the 4th of July

I don't know about joint damage, he should nerf nerve damage.

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>dedthred

>>162339219
Dwarf Fortress General is dead. It was inevitable.

It's been years and my dwarves have neve thrown a party. What gives? I normally wouldn't mind but the more social dwarves are getting stressed over it. And yes, I have multiple heeting halls.

>>162339506
Any particular reason that you haven't made a tavern yet?

>>162339543
I have. Two of them. Still no parties.

>>162339543
>>162339587
>>162339587
Ok apparently parties just no longer exist the way they used to. Nevermind.

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>>162313540
Oh shit I totally forgot this. If the tourney drawer anon hasen't decided on what to draw, then this moment would be pretty good.

>>162327536
I remember hearing this 7 8 9 joke as a kid and being confused as hell and always though it was one of those chicken crossed the road type of things. Maybe my english skills were too poor or I was literally retarded.

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>>162340079
>english skills were too poor or I was literally retarded
reminds me

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Recommend me a square tileset, with diagonal walls.
Also, is there any way to make double walls ont have those stupid looking holes everywhere, or at least make them better looking, like in picture related?

>>162340764
Taffers

>>162340872
Seems good, these holes are still bothering me though. Any way to edit the graphics to fill them up, or at the very least make them smaller?
Also, do I need dfhack to be able to see multiple z-levels below me, or can I get it to work in standalone?

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>>162341782
forgot pic

>>162341852
I don't know. I usually don't build many adjacent walls. So I never noticed that

Is there a way to deal with the ticks, snails, worms, etc. that are infesting my poultry coop? And do they even impact anything?

The soil layer of my fort is sprouting copious cave moss and and a few plump helmets outside the farm, but my dwarves aren't harvesting the helmets for some reason. How can that be remedied and why isn't the harvesting happening?

>>162343012
No they don't. Sometimes I think animals bring vermin with them, elk birds always are surrounded by creepy crawlers no matter where they are in my games. Cats hunt vermins if tha thelps.

>>162343012
Those are vermins, bring some cats along and yes, at least they give dwarfs unhappy thoughts. IIRC they also can spoil food, but I recommend consulting wiki on this question.
Dwarfs ignore wild plants as long they are not ordered to collect them directly or plant gathering area is not set.

>>162343440
I brought four cats along and stationed two of them in that room, vermin still remain. Thanks for the info about setting a gather area.

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>>162343012
>>162343170
When birds "root around" at their feet they uncover vermin. They can be assumed to be eating them but it's abstracted atm.
>>162343769
They are harmless, and will disappear shortly.

If wild plump helmets or other things are growing you need to tell your dwarves that you want them collected. Ass[i]gn a gathering zone, and they will do so.

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>>162340872
>>162341852
edited the dwarf icons as they were practically indistinguishable from humans. Pretty gud tileset otherwise.

>someday, toady will code in feedbags and feeding troughs to make raising grazers easier
>not too long after he'll finally implement hauling jobs for animals
Just imagine, my brother anons, how quickly we could haul stone if we just made those horses, donkeys and mules do all the heavy lifting!

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I've just spent I don't know how many hours mostly passively messing around with water in arena mode.

I'm not sure this is the best use of my time.

How soon do y'all think the new update will come out? This month?

>>162346826
You should test how long does it take for each creature to drown.

>>162346709
desu, we could have proper migrants bring items with them with pack animals when they enter your fort, that would compensate for keeping them in
The only drawback is that with adding pack animals, dorfs will lose their magic ability to carry tons of stuff, and using animals will be a necessity
All in all, I would prefer it

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Why haven't European authorities learnt how to v-p-l their migrants yet?

>>162347380
I'm 80% confident that it'll be out before 2017, 95% confident it'll be out before the end of January, and 99.9% confident it'll be out before spring comes.

>>162348156
>The only drawback is that with adding pack animals, dorfs will lose their magic ability to carry tons of stuff, and using animals will be a necessity
A good chunk of that could be fixed by implementing pockets, though I agree that it's a small price to pay for implementing animal labor. At first, they'll only haul, but then they'll power our pumps and mills...

>>162348660
Scandifag here. What does v-p-l do?

>>162348660
They can't figure out the interface, it's a miracle they've made it this far already.

>>162349012
Case in point.

>>162349012
>>162349092
dumb samefriend

>>162348753
Im just happy about using animals for anything else from eating
How much until whispering to horses, and gaining their affect?

>>162348753
im more optimistic, I think
80% december
100%january

>>162349815
>whispering to horses, and gaining their affect
human females can't even compete

>>162347950
D-does it speed up? I'm dizzy

>>162347950
Is that a burning artifact door?

>>162341852
>>162344017

I responded to the questions/critique here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=107924.msg7290704#msg7290704). Thanks!

>>162349815
>Im just happy about using animals for anything else from eating
And bones and leather, but yeah, we'd all be happy with that. I really hope it gets implemented before Toady implements plows.

How do fishes work now? If I divert a river to an underground channel and have it empty at the edge of the map, will my dwarfs catch stuff in there?

>>162348660
>my country's nobles will never be impaled on menacing wooden spikes
It is sad, but not unexpected.

>>162351140
Sweet, thanks for responding. I might play around with the walls myself and see the effects of having wider walls. It looked pretty good with the picture in >>162340764, with the holes being rather small.

>>162353636
>my country's nobles will never be impaled on menacing wooden spikes
>wooden
>not masterwork steel
Don't take chances, anon.

Where'd the rimworld general go?

>>162347950
Jesus Christ Bananas

>>162355208
People got so bored of the game the general died.

>>162336009
It's an honest interpretation of screenshots right?

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>>162355208
>>162355291
When it was new:
>hey DF spergies, look who has the most popular general, not so cocky now eh?

After a few months:
>pls merge, we're dying!

Now:
>...

For those of you who heavily use traps against the filthy goblin hordes, what do you do to deal with trolls? Trolls are harder to kill than goblins and more likely to crawl through multiple traps, which can be disastrous when all you've got is stonefall traps. So far I've been using a strategy of
>dig narrow tunnels into side of trap-laden entrance
>place statue at end of tunnels and fill rest with traps
>trolls, being building destroyers, path to statues, get killed or crippled by tunnel traps, leave main group of traps untriggered so that they're good to slaughter the goblins
and it's been working well enough, but I can't help but feeling there's something more efficient I could be doing.

Also, when I make the gradual upgrade for a trapline of stonefall traps to weapon traps, should I start at the front or the back?

>>162356194
On a related note, has anyone else fantasized about being able to forge metal "boulders" that you could load stonefall traps with, making them much deadlier? Imagine dropping masterwork lead "boulders" on your foes; not only are you going to get a lot more damage from the higher density, but you're also going to get more hits from quality.

>>162357814
[ITEM_TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_BOULDER]
[NAME:boulder:boulders]
[ADJECTIVE:massive]
[SIZE:1800]
[HITS:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:6]
[STONE]
[METAL]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:10:200:crush:crushes:NO_SUB:1500]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:4:4]

Now seriously

When do you think Toady will add boats?

>>162358948
I've heard it's going to be right after the 'scenarios' update, but don't take my word for it.

>>162358559
And will this fit into a stonefall trap or is it something for weapon traps?

>>162358948
probably never since water still works by teleporting entire fluid tiles without flow.

Boats will be a nightmare to code and will most likely have to be designated ala rooms or buildings to even begin correctly calculating mass and floating.
Or you can have memeboats that are 1x1 tile and hold everything like carts.

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>>162361834
Can't the flow just be abstracted, and separated from the actual fluids?

For the boat movement, they need to be able to move in at least eight directions, but they should only need to actually rotate in the four cardinal directions. Keeping track of different zones and shit on board shouldn't be that bad.

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>>162359812
Hmmm, not sure if it will work in stonefalls or not actually, but it'll work in weapon traps or chucked with a minecart.

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>>162363109
>but it'll work in weapon traps or cucked with a minecart
>cucked
wipe this meme off the face of the earth

>>162363109
Pity, I was kind of looking for something to bridge the gap between the huge amount of stonefall traps that I quickly and desperately set up without much regard for quality before the goblins show up and the huge amounts of perfect weapon traps made with masterwork mechanisms and 10 masterwork large serrated steel discs each. Ah well, I've still got those weapon traps made from caravan trap weapons and reclaimed goblin weapons.

>>162363649
But anon

It says chucked

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>>162363991
it was joke

>>162347380
Jan/Feb 2017 with latest version before next update being around april. Myth/Magic update Oct/Nov 2017

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>>162363649
I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU

>>162363838
Well, it might work, I'm not sure if there is a tag needed for use in stonefalls.

>>162363109
So, the uh weapon lord bandit group that froze me last night when too many got around and the "20+attacks at once=freeze" bug hit?

Well I managed to use the terrain better to keep them strung along in a line instead of clumping up, finally ran them off after like 50 kills. Usually morale is related to the size of the group vs losses I think, and 50 losses seemed awfully high.

Then I followed them back to their camp.

>811: Iferifemeli, "Tuskbristled", camp
> Owner: The Lilac of Mist, elves
> Parent Civ: The Mountainous Veneration, elves
> 920 goblins
> 376 elves
> 750 dwarves
> 1354 humans

Oh.

>>162366278
>when you stumble upon the /int/ userbase

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>>162366585
Wait which part, the "so I don't have to cuck myself into a river" bit or the "3400 assholes in a camp, over half of them children" bit?

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>>162366708
>tfw max remembers how the DF version of the meme started

>>162324739
Are you retarded? cd into the directory and run "sh df"

>>162361834
Toody said boats wll range from one tile to big boats that will be played like a fortress

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>>162367606
>big boats that will be played like a fortress

>>162367606
>to big boats that will be played like a fortress
You mean like fortress mode at sea? Huh, for once I won't need to worry about what to do with all my fishery workers once they've depleted the local supply of fish.

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>>162367958
>tfw you will be able to play a roaming fishing vessel, depleting entire oceans of fish
>tfw inhabitants of poor fishing villages will turn to banditry and piracy to keep their bellies fed
>tfw you'll end up getting your vessel hijacked by one of those villagers
>tfw he's the captain now

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>>162368347
>tfw hidden hatch leading to waterproof submarine that has a lever to disengage and sink main ship

>>162368826
Brilliant!

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>build a building on the surface
>decide it looks bad
>needs to be rebuilt
>deconstructing
>designate an entire floor of rock blocks to be deconstructed
>dwarves get to work
>ticks pass
>something has collapsed on the surface!
>granite rock block strikes the Carpenter in the head and the injured part is crushed!
>granite rock block strikes the Smith in the left lower leg and the injured part is crushed!
>granite rock block strikes the Smith in the throat and the injured part collapses into a lump of gore!
>a major artery has been torn!
>Carpenter has been found dead
>Smith has bled to death

>>162367958
>go to sea on fortress-ship
>haha, this is great, all the fun of fortress mode and no titans or forgotten beasts to worry abou-
>THE LEVIATHAN MOBY DICK HAS COME! A GIGANTIC WHITE SPERM WHALE.
>fuck

>>162369229
We've all done that at some point. It's a typical noob mistake.

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>>162369635
>DICK HAS COME! A GIGANTIC WHITE SPERM

>>162369229
>build a building on the surface
That was your first mistake.

>>162369635
Boats will have to be added after damage to constructions and the ground is added

Then, playing a sea fort will actually be the hardest mode of all
>Yay, Infinite food
Nutrition makes you have various deficiencies from only eating fish
>Sweet water?
I guess desalinization?, else you depend on stops for resources
>Enemies can destroy your ship, which ends in gg, unless you float up to the coast
Toady doesnt know if he wants to add canons and blackpowder sooo...

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>>162369956
>It undulates rhythmically.

>>162369635
>>162369956
SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH Urist Deerfruit's dwarf blood AND THUNDER
WHEN YOU SEE THE Giant White Sperm Whale
BREAK YOUR Upper Spine - Ability to stand lost AND CRACK YOUR +Sand Pear Oar+ MEN
IF YOU WISH TO PREVAIL
THIS -(Ivory Leg)- IS WHAT PROPELS ME
*Bismuth Bronze Harpoon* THRUST IN THE SKY
AIM DIRECTLY FOR HIS CROOKED BROW...................Difficult strike, very square
AND [l]OOK HIM STRAIGHT IN THE EYE

WHITE WHALE
SHINING METAL GRAIL

>>162371320
>Nutrition makes you have various deficiencies from only eating fish
There's whales and assorted other marine animals out there too as well as crustaceans, to say nothing of sea serpents and whatever fictional sea beasties Toady will add in before all is said and done. The real problem is where you're going to get your plant matter from...

>>162371909
farming on boats. that's how the chinese used to do it.

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>>162371876

>>162371876
Well done.

>>162371909
Well, it'll happen after myths/magic, and golems are a planned feature...
Seaweed golems anybody? Store em in the ballast and pull one out to munch on whenever the scurvy starts to set in.

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>>162371876

>>162369635
>>162371876
>Hello human, call me Ishmael.
>In 171, the human Ahab became Captain of the Pequod.
>In 192, the human Ahab's left leg was ripped away by the Leviathan Moby Dick.
>In 203, the human Ahab was struck down by the Leviathan Moby Dick.
>In 203, the Pequod was destroyed by the Leviathan Moby Dick.
>It was inevitable.

Multiplayer when

Anyone willing to share some embark profiles?

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just found out my dwarven civ is ruled by a necromancer.

>>162375889
male cat
female cat
5 pickaxes
2 b axes
a few buckets
a few cups
alcohol
some food
a pile of your favorite kind of stone

>>162376568
>a pile of your favorite kind of stone
For what purpose?

Finished more tests

Out of 100 rounds, the human won 51 times and the human200foc won 49. In the second set the human won 52 times and the human200foc 48.

Out of 100 rounds the human won 46 times and the human200wil won 54 times. In the second set the human won 51 times and the human200wil 49.

Out of 100 rounds the human won 46 times and the human200int won 54. In the second set the human won 48 times and the human200int 52.

These are all the test I did today, I've also updated the pastebin with the results http://pastebin.com/UJ7k2UjX

>>162376568
>2cat
roflmao

>>162377078
Not him, but the answer is obvious. If you get the chance to use your fav stone even when it's not present on the embark, then why not?

>>162377078
coziness

>>162377382
gelding

>>162377454
Because you're going to mine more stone than you'll ever use anyways, so what's the point of bringing more? If you were bringing jet so that you could minimize the weight of something you planned to make out of stone (like stone pots) that would be one thing, but I don't really see any other purpose in bringing non-economic stone.

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>>162377078
because I absolutely need my gates and depot to look like this, okay?!

>>162355208
>>162355291
>>162355653
what's rimworld

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>>162377837
>2017
>being a dwarf
>not being autistic about a specific kind of stone

>>162376387
she probably became a necromancer after queen

>>162378178
An open world 3D sex game about rim jobs.

>>162377837
Is it hard for you to understand that other people value the IRL aesthetics of some rocks and minerals above others? Is it hard for you to understand that when those people see them represented in DF, they imagine the real thing?

If you can understand that, then you should also be able to understand that people prefer certain rocks and minerals in the game, regardless of the economical uses the game ascribes to them.

>>162371909
>The real problem is where you're going to get your plant matter from...
Arr, just build a farm plot on the deck, matey... it's potentially no different than building a self-sustaining fort

>>162376387
What year is it now? If she is a necromancer she can be quite old. Also, what gods do your dwarves worship? I'd reckon having a necromancer ruler for long time might skew the type of gods to the unsavory.

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>mfw I learn about macros
holy shit this makes building rooms so much easier

>>162380809
it's year 168, I guess it's possible she still isn't the queen but I assumed she was because necromancer.

the shafts of shadow, the bloody powers, the hot flare, Thukkan are all worshipped among my peoples.

Are there any compelling books about stones and composition of mineral layers in earth? Reading wiki feels disjointed.

>>162377078
>hating on cobaltite
lad...

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In other news...

>>162382914
The pretty blue is nice, reminds me we haven't seen autistpatternanon with his crazy big fort images where they were all big flags or just geometrical patterns with next level color coordination.

So do you think in-game conquests of cities and such will be fixed by the next update?

>>162384151
What is broken with them exactly?

You mean how sites will take over other sites without having the necessary positions? You can fix that now to some extent with the right [GENERATED_POSITIONS:blah] stuff I think?

>>162382490
like real books or what?

Guys whats the definitive way to play this game like a casual? Best tile set?

Why is everything out of date. If i play the newest DF does that mean I have to play it vanilla or not at all. I just want to be casual.

>>162384983
Yes. Geology for dummies, that sort of thing.

>>162385665
Like a casual? Watch LPs, never play by yourself.

>>162385665
Just play with something like phoebus and dfhack

>>162384793
Like uh, you will never actually see an army take over a city. They just camp outside and do fuckall.

>>162371909
>>162373370
>harvesting on golems
Its like dungeon meshi is basically DF 1.00 final version
Such foreseen abilities

>>162387128
>>162386339
Just did some google and found this

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Utility:Lazy_Newb_Pack

Why isn't this in the op over things that are outdated?

>>162387765
Because people consider it a crutch

>>162387810
wow

>>162385665
someone made therapist work with the 32 bit version of the latest release. vanilla is just fine after you learn to edit the init files.

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>>162387429
The timing is weird yeah, it's rare to catch them, and they still get stuck in the sleeping army bug sometimes.

You can and I have seen armies take over a city, the whole 4k elf army thing I did was en route to a town when I intercepted them before letting them come all the way to the town so I could battle them there.

I was present in this battle here in legends, but it wasn't listed properly apparently since I actually killed about two thousand of them, the town was carpeted with elf bodies and stray bolts and shit.

>>162387474
Mmmmhmmmm.

>>162387765
it is in the OP.

>>162388487
Ah I must have got hit by the sleeping armies bug a lot then.

One more test

Out of 100 rounds, the human won 45 times and the human200kin won 55. In the second set the human won 45 times and the human200kin 55.

Same result in both sets.

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>>162388740
For sure, it's still the exception mostly to find armies actively attacking.

>>162385926
There's quite a lot more than geology in it, but Bill Bryson's A Short History of Nearly Everything has a fantastic geology section in it. A thoroughly good read regardless

>>162393264
oooooooo

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>>162383789
Aye they were always a sight. Maybe after the update.

>>162394396
Not "ooooooohh"?

>>162394993
Drew always has them going "OOOOOO" and whatnot.

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>>162396776
Aye but usually with two "h"s!

Looking through my collection though it doesn't seem to be an ironclad rule, so I will forgive you, fair anon.

>>162398397
Heh, I usually think of the "ooohh" as a reply to the other one/s going "oooo" for some reason.

>dwarves
>elves

What if they could breed and made dwelves?

>>162400080
You'd probably just end up with a human desu

>>162400436
>humans
>plump helmet men

What if they could breed and make plump human men?

>>162400436
how? dwarves and elves are both smaller.

>>162400707
>tfw you realize you just made americans

>>162401601
Yeah but there is the 'hybrid vigor' factor to consider.

You know, why is it always such a big deal that you're supposed to be staking vampires in the heart and cutting off their head to kill them, are there people that doesn't kill?

>>162402380
Not many, but there are lots of things that kill other people that won't kill vampires. Like if you made an exhaustive list of "things that kill normal humans", it would only overlap with a list of "things that kill vampires" on those things and maybe a few others. Like burning, or getting eaten by velociraptors.

>>162403580
>or getting eaten by velociraptors.
Awfully specific, don't you think?

>>162402380
You can also cut them in half

And now that I think about it, bisection shouldn't cause instant death, you should be able to keep living for a few more turns

>>162403758
I did say it was an exhaustive list.

>>162404025
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure being eaten by anything would kill a vampire if velociraptors could do the job.

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>>162403580
That last one would be the cutest little death ever.

>>162403968
Yeah, but still it's funny to think about that being used as a justification by a crappy vampire hunter.

'So you're SURE they were a vampire?'
"Look, I staked em, they screamed, I cut their head off, they died, what more do you need?"

>>162404182
Yeah, velociraptors are only an example. Getting eaten by people or rabbits or small space gods would do it too. As long as the vampire is subdivided into enough discrete vampire bits it's effectively dead. Swallowing them whole is probably not effective.

Reminder that Toady will eventually add vore

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>>162404905
my fetish.

>>162404905
He already made the game furry-friendly so this isn't too surprising.

>>162405782
Honestly, I'd prefer that savage areas spawn dinosaurs, sabertooths, wooly mammoths and shit instead of giant animals and animal people.

>>162406312
I think it would be nice if Toady got around to actually adding the fanciful creatures not currently in but have raws like Griffon and Centaur.

>>162406312
animal men are what make adventure mode fun.

>>162406517
I dunno, I've had plenty of fun running around adventure mode as a human demigod.

The Bay12 forum is giving me an "The message body was left empty." error whenever I try to post. Is this happening to other people?

Confess your sins regarding this game. Repent now and bare your soul for the community to see.


>I've never dug past the first five layers from the surface in fort mode.
>I only got into the game because I can make cute crossdressing traps in adventure mode and actually have them be cool instead of lewd all the time.

>>162408996
I prefer tilesets.
I think adventure mode is shit.
I play with invasions off

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>>162408996
>I only got into the game because I can make cute crossdressing traps in adventure mode and actually have them be cool instead of lewd all the time.

>>162408996
I genuinely appreciate the inclusion and design of elves in Dorf, and look forward to them meeting their developmental potential.

>>162408996
I have never made a perfectly symmetrical fortress.

>>162408996
Sometimes I like to take control of one of the elf girls in a dark fortress and run around as a half naked murderloli shanking people after dancing and bullshitting with them.

>>162409203

>invasions off

Nigga please, the only excuse I'll accept is to stave off fps death on your literal toaster.

>>162409232
I like cute males and I like going on fun adventures. Dwarf Fortress is one of the rare games where both options can be extensively explored, whether deliberate on the creator's part or otherwise.

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>>162408996
I mod out cave adaptation and keas.

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>>162411059
This is a pretty nice weapon rack.

>>162408996
I mod out aquifers and lower the baby/child cap to the point I'm lucky to get one.

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>>162411059
>no militia barfing on goblins
>no varied floor tiles
IT'S LIKE I DON'T KNOW YOU ANYMORE

>>162411009
One of my favorite things is running around as a cute little bearded lass.

>>162411292
Have you breached an aquifer before tho?

If so, you're all good in my book.

>>162411493
That's not a girl (male) though, that's just a girl.

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>>162411493
It's not like I don't have any vomit at all. There are at least a couple of piles of it in this picture. I think most of it belongs to mountain goats, but whatever. Some of it can fly.

>>162411573
No.

The only reason I'd bother with them is for water based megaprojects, and those cause fps death.

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So I'm trying out Masterwork for the first time, playing as Succubi. Anyone have any tips? Kinda the first time I'm building a majority of stuff above ground, not having the easiest time with castle/palace design since the floors take 100 stones per 10x10 square.

>>162412339
You're gonna need to keep the morale up so make sure to keep some petrified naked people and tentacle monsters around for the pleasure of your citizens.

>>162412157
Well yeah, I don't want there to be any funny business going on downstairs, the only cock I like is mine, but beards can be cute. I'd tangle my beard with Cheery's there.

>>162412213
Well, flying vomitbloodpiles are ok, but damn, I specifically used to keep my civvies underground and then after sieges have them all go haul junk downstairs to apply a fresh coat of barf to the fort.

>>162411493
>varied tiles
why though? I don't make super autism symmetrical forts but varied tiles just look like ass.

>>162412760
>I specifically used to keep my civvies underground and then after sieges have them all go haul junk downstairs to apply a fresh coat of barf to the fort.
But why? I used to do that too, but the vomit wasn't the point of it all.

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>>162412760
This was the female Dwarf concept art for The Hobbit.

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>>162412760
Different strokes I guess. If there was a cleaning designation I would have legendary cleaners in a season. It never rains on The Infamous Point and it drives me nuts that I'll have to turn to dfhack if I every want a pristine and austere spike of stone again.

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>>162413220
So just out of curiosity I was looking around the mountain at the absurd number of tiles with hovering contaminants, and I found this. It's the top of a 22z tall column of wolverine blood spatters.

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>>162412951
Once you get used to it, it's just weird looking at nothing but:
. . . . .
. . . . .
. . . . .

Instead of:

' . ` , .
, ` . ' ,
` , . ` .

Just says "grass and dirt" to me better now.

>>162412993
Keeping them underground so they could paint it because it just amused me having everyone super blissed out over their huge engraved bedrooms as they splut around knee deep in vomit.

>>162413062
Hmmm, nice beards on some but not cute enough under them.

>>162413220
Yeah, I like my awfulglaciers due to the horrid blue slime or elf blood covering everything.

>>162411059
Noob here, how do I make my game look like that

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Hey guys, Meph did an AMA on reddit, maybe some of you cooky masterwork players can check it out and have a nice read xD

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>>162414496
This with his color scheme.

>>162414886
Dear god, as if he couldn't be a bigger douche?

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>>162413785
>horrid blue slime or elf blood covering everything
I can dig it. Well, I can dig you digging it, at least. I liked reading about Cathelms. Exploding eagles and narcoleptic zombies and such.

>>162414496
What he >>162415092 said. The color scheme is vherid dark sand with a couple of small tweaks. The dwarves pictured there are the CLA creature "graphics", which look nice with pretty much any square set.

>>162416839
I think your tileset looks the nicest I've seen yet, but I'm still sticking with vanilla.

I'm just used to it now.

Am I right in thinking using coins to trade is an uneconomical choice? If I make coins from gold they have a certain value. But if I make gold crafts, some of them will be more valuable because of their craftsdwarfship. So coins are worth less than crafts, right?

>>162416839
Yeah, the color scheme has a nice comfy feel to it with that blueblackgrey thing going on.

>>162417647
Anon claimed not long ago that coins trade at a 1:1 value in the trade depot instead of merchants demanding a profit. I don't know if it's true or not, but if it is there are probably situations where coins would get you more trade value per job. A highly skilled negotiator and masterwork crafts will likely still be worth more when trading, and they're definitely going to increase your fort's created wealth more.

>>162414886
I don't into reddit and I'm not keen to start, but I'm curious about something. Could anyone explain how the points thing works? Can you turn them in for a decoder ring or something?

>>162409904
symmetry is overrated anyway

>>162419167
The more points a comment has in a thread the more visible it is.

Other than that, they do nothing whatsoever.

>>162419167
People vote on the comments and links, the points show the number of positive votes.
Comments with many points have preference in the post, and comments can be made to the post and comments themselves, and so they create this cascade effect of the branches and organize themselves by the points system.
You can select to show either top (amount of positive points), controversial (big number of points, both positive and negative, negatives aren't known), and other variations.
Comments with more negative points tend to be hidden and only show a placeholder like "comment below the threshold".
Points aren't unique to the comment/link though, they are added to the account which made/linked them, and so accounts with more points have visibility priority over those who have less.

Hence why it's so shitty.

>>162419574
>>162420076
So it's like a self-reinforcing echo chamber. Democratized censorship. That's pretty lame.

>>162420456
Tbh, the mainstream shit on reddit, like the front page and the default subs are really awful, just as you said.

Smaller subreddits dedicated to specific communities can be good, but they vary. I only use reddit to check for updates on games and to look at cool stuff based around several hobbies.

Also it has good porn.

>>162420456
yeah

>>162420456
yes but dick flapper shit coming out of my cock into your ears tits ass asss asssssss there are *farts* arguably benefits *belches* COCK in non-anonymous I M A G E boards. niggers tongue my anus. it's e z to explain as you CAN'T SEE CUZ UR A NUB

subjectively, of course. I personally only use anonymous boards. *vomits everywhere*

>>162420456
>That's pretty lame
It is, but it's really big, huge, so it has communities for things that are dead in other places, and many forums have basically completely migrated to it, many resources can be found there... it's cancer, but it has its uses.

>>162420650
I kinda agree, but even smaller communities can be shit. It depends on how much "culture" they take from the front page or avoid it. That said, even shit communities there are productive, and reddit is a bit more stable and up to date, plus their willingness to help for points makes shit easy to find.

>>162420942
Downvoted

When people talk about Demons, they talk usually talk about their martial prowess and how they will fuck your dwarves up. I just realized that Demons also have grand master in speach-related skills as well, so now I want to create a goblin adventurer whose ultimate goal is to win an argument against his demon overlord.

>>162421651
Worthy goal, raise your argument skills until they are shiny and chrome, worth of Valhalla, and I will witness you myself.

>>162421651
If you could convince a demon to value peace that would be something.

It's weird, reading through my old backlog of Discworld stories really is comfy when you're playing df in between, but god damn do I miss Pratchett being above ground.

>>162422472
Despite that, It was good he died when he did. Alzheimer is a terrible, terrible disease.

>>162422736
Well, yes, preferable to him wasting away losing that wonderful mind, but him being hale and healthy and writing another ten, twenty, thirty years, that would be much better... or at the least give hith brain to a good Igor tho they can put it to good uthe later.

>>162422973
You make a good point anon. I'm beginning to question why we didn't do that with a lot of other knowledgeable and valuable people who have died.

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After 12 or 13 years of diplomats never returning from Relicwebs, the elves wised up and sent one with a weapon, for all the good it did. This is the first time I've seen that happen.

>>162423491
Have they ever sent an ambush?

>>162424187
Nope. Just caravans and diplomats.
The diplomat's profession was spearman, so I guess that's why he was armed. I'm going to headcanon that he was an assassin sent take out the Duchess.

Requesting screenshot of a nice, bloody battle log.
If it is suitable it might be published in a magazine

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>>162424745

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nobunaga explaining what a musket is to some dwarves in a currently airing series.

Is there any way to mod the stone requirements for floors? I want to build castles and big buildings, but using a stone for every single floor tile is kind of ridiculous.

>>162424891
Use bridges.

>>162425091
You probably can't build workshops and beds and stuff ontop of bridges though

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>>162424745
More seriously.

>>162425128
You can't. So build a grid of constructed floors and fill in with bridges.

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>>162414886
Conveniently, he "forgot" to mention the MW donations when asked how he paid for all his vacationing.

Pls finish job, Lebanon-kun.

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>>162424745
this one has quite a bit of funny story around it. I needed to make helmets for my military, and I had a lot of mussel shells lying around the fort. so, I made mussel shell helmets. sortof imagined them looking like cool scale helms of sorts and hoped they would be a problem. well here's part of a battle where the militia captain gets his head popped by an ettin, the mussel shells did nothing to protect him.

>>162425541
Oh wait, he DID mention it.

Sorry, my bad.

Still can't wait until ISIS or Boko Haram gets their hands on him.

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>>162425590
shortly after this, an axedwarf proceeded to cut off the ettin's genitals, while making a passive comment on the death of his commanding officer. this was followed by a sword in his foot, and then a speardwarf landing a clear stab into his heart. I guess I never screencapped the ettin's death, unfortunately.

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>>162425541
WTF

Is this sarcasm?

>>162385665
Just download the game and play, like damn. It's pretty casual by itself.

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Some of these are hilarious.

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Wtf I love reddit now.

>>162414886
Who?

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>>162424745

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>>162424745

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So a slave showed up to my tavern, and she has a really fitting nickname. Gotta love the rng sometimes.

>>162424848
Are you throwing shit on goblins while flying around as a birdman? Gather some vomit next please :D

>>162428245
Let her stay if she asks you to. By joining another entity slaves basically become free again.

>>162428414
She looks like she has pretty worthless skills though, and I've already accepted a few very good bards.

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Shouldn't poopoo and peepee technically be moddable?

The "materials" exist in the game, under the names "brown filth" and "yellow filth". All we need is an interaction that makes dwarves spawn it at their feet every time a timer fills up.

>>162428515
Accept her because of her rarity, not her skills.

These characters are often tightly involved in the history of the world, and you can probably have a fun time finding out more about her after you've let her in.

>>162428646
Alright anon, I'll show clemency if she asks to join.

Just for you <3

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>>162424745

click this image at your own risk.

>>162425541
>going on expensive bike trips on nigeria
Now you really have to be dumb to do something like that

Guys where the hell do I craft an archery target. Can't find it for the life of me, point me in the right direction pls.

>>162426394
I got dengue too and nobody donated me money
>current year
>not being unlucky enough to get the hemorrhagic one
I-It's like he isn't even trying.

>>162429683
He's planning on going on along trip through west Africa.

Malian insurgents, Boko Haram, who do you think will get to him first? Here's hoping that at least they can teach him a lession about modding ethics.

>>162429875
With the state of things it's more likely US bombs him accidentally.
*unsheats drones*

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>>162424745

>>162429698
God, I'm stupid

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>mfw thred keeps dying

>>162393264
is this new?

>>162400080
Breeding stuff is planned for the future, there is some top notch discussion about it on the forums suggestion page
Race I think its called
>>162402015
Nah, that kind of stuff depends on the mixed races
>>162403968
Totally. Also wounds to the throat should make it difficult to speak, making dwarfs gurgle with blood, that kind of simple but true stuff is sadly out of the scope now