/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

First for 9dots a cute

>>>162901010
>an hibrid has been created
>an hibrid has been added to the list of beast of this world
>An Elflyn, a dwarf-sized creature , with a slighty mischievous character, red eyes and sharp ears!

Yeah good Idea senpai, adding another dwarf-killing race to the world, why the fuck not?

>>162902348
Second for TimbukDrew and lewdness

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>>162902808
>Call me Elflyn
how about no

>>162902923
shut up you elflyng
go kill a tree or whatever the fuck your kind do

How do I ensure that a great adventuring world is created guys?
My worlds always tend to be quite calm and without goblins

long

dorf

schlong

:DD

>>162903675
Lots of civs
Lots of sites
Lots of beasts
Lots of savagery

>>162904595
Has anyone ever acctually had a problem with megabeast populations getting too small in recent versions no matter what they started at? I haven't seen a world leave the Age of Myth since 2d.

>>162904717
0.34 often had had worlds entering age of legends and even age of heroes, while advanced worldgen often led to golden age.

The unchanging era thing seems to be a post-0.40 phenomenom.

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>>162902348

>>162905040
Is that a donkeywoman on a strip pole with a gun?

>>162903675
desu, its breddy impossible for now in a very precise way
the most you can do is>>162904595
Hopefully, the future will allow for more stuff like the sliders that are already planned for the short term magic update

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>>162902348

>>162905127
I think they're ninebolds.

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>>162906602
You're spoiling me now, dots.

Would you have a go at Kulur here for me?

>>162904595
>>162906329
High savagery doesn't really do much for adv mode. It only affects what kind of wildlife an area can have, which is probably the least interesting aspect of adv mode, and prevents civs from settling areas that have high savagery. Making worlds with high savagery leads to less civ interaction and bigger/more frequent wild gaps between them. I mean, if you really have to be ambushed by giant dingos instead dingos during that brief skill window when either is really a threat, then a high savagery world is what you want. Otherwise they just make the world less interesting overall for an adventurer.

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>>162903675
http://pastebin.com/M9pYZTxE

>>162903675

Every world I create ends up having too many fucking goblins.

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>>162909914
http://pastebin.com/Sg2ugpt7

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>captcha: KEEP Sprite
Well, I was going to anyways... but ok.

>>162910128
http://pastebin.com/1CXeCvet

Do we know which social skills are trained by which adventure mode actions?
For example, are liar, intimidator, persuader etc all trained by arguing in adv mode?

>>162911003
Conversation, Comedy, Flatterer, Pacifier, Lying, Intimidation, Consoler, Persuader, and so forth from talking/arguing/asking about feelings/expressing yours but with context stuff playing a role, flattering people when you argue raises it, being persistent and angry about flattery raises intimidation as I recall.

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OC

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Hello, so I just started DF a few days ago, my dwarves survived their first winter, and are now celebrating the first anniversary of the fortress with glorious dwarven wine.

But in the mean time there was this elven merchant exposing his goods in my depot, and when I tried to expose mine, my retarded keyboard decide to select many random stuff without me (retarded as well) noticing. It makes my dwarves transport stuff for ever, so I decided to remove the depot. Every item that was in it are on the ground and the merchant left just after.

Is it me or did I just acquire all his goods for free ?

>>162912280
Yes, you robbed the elves. You're off to a good start, even if it was by accident.

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Been ages since I played DF. I grabbed the latest version, stuck in my favourite world gen (that volcano near the middle always has a great embark), but upped the population and civs. This is the result.

Look at this carnage. The most bloody war there, "The Conflict of Eviscerators" is still ongoing.
Civilized World Population:
> 889 Dwarves
> 64 Humans
> 331 Elves
> 9791 Goblins
> 10 Kobolds

Total: 11085

I checked out the war page and, well...
There are wars that have been going on for over 100 years, though interestingly enough the most recent war, The Conflcit of Eviscerators, is the most bloodiest and brutal in spite of it being the youngest war.

The Attacker is a goblin civ that has humans in it, while the defender is a dwarf civ.

Here's the world gen parameters if anyone wants: http://pastebin.com/NV8z9s5i

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>>162912894
Neat, should I expect retaliations from the elves ?

Also the entire fort

>>162913437
Looking into it some more. All the humans who are alive seem to be necromancers, or combat veterans (some of whom are the sons and daughters of aforementioned necromancers.

For anyone playing, I'd say turn down the beasts a bit, it'll make some more civs survive.

>>162913437

>Thrushralder
>1 +0 population

Why does this happen?

>>162914191
The civilisation is one kobold dying alone in a cave.

>>162913762
Probably not. It usually takes a lot of provication to get the elves to attack.

Also, dig down. You have tons of vertical space on your map, no need to settle the soil layers. Dwarves living in dirt is unseemly.

>>162913437
>Export legends.xml to test this tool, that looks absolutely better than WorldViewer.
>.xml is 1,4GB big
>The legends_plus.xml is another 400MB.
How did Toady compress that all down to the 100MB the save folder is?

>>162913437
I see a lot of dead civs in your world, so the wars that have been going for 100+ years are likely to be mostly wars against those civs. With no one left to make peace with the war is considered to be ongoing even when they have no sites left to conquer and no citizens left to kill.

>>162914616
because the data is only 100MB-ish.
The reason that it's gigs of data as an XML is because
XML FUCKING SUCKS
XML is a lie, all of it, including the X, and the ML.

XML is a fucking cancer, most of that file size is the XML 'tags' that enclose every little bit of data. In XML you often have tags that are larger than the data they contain, and not a little bit larger, a LOT larger. That's why you can compress/archive an XML file down to a tiny little size. Try it, stick that XML file in a .zip, or even better, a .7z. Look at how fucking small it gets.

t. web developer who has occasionally had to work with XML.

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>>162914508
ok thanks man

>Also, dig down

Yeah I know, its just that I couldn't figured out how stairs worked and since I come from rimworld I didn't focus on layers much, but it's ok now.

What are the most vital ways of saving valuable fps? I had about 80 dorfs with constant 100fps until I dug my way into caves. Then it instantly dropped down to 10fps and I couldn't pick it up again until I opened gates and let raid in to murder half of my fort. Now with 35-40 dorfs I manage about 50-60 fps at best.

Caves were a mistake... I bet trolls did it.

>>162916052
Reduce pathfinding calculations:
less items, less space for creatures to path to, less creatures.
And to a lesser extend - less temperature and flow calculations: check the wiki page for pumpstacks to see how to do those right.

>>162916665
Aye I hear you. I'll look into that. Thanks, looks like the final boss of DF for me will be my own PC.

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>>162914430
Jesus, that is actually sad as fuck

>>162910604
>>162910128
>>162909914
You are my hero noble anon

>>162912894
My dwarfs envy your spacious bedrooms

>cant make world older than 100 years because it always gets overrun by gobbos

I fucking hate it ..

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>>162919260
>>162914430
Poor cutebold ;(

>>162920415
Happening to me too now. I have a 1050 years old world, goblins represent 50% of the population.

Also is it normal that there are so much fewer dwarves than other sentients? And like 90% of dwarves seem to be relevant historical figures.

>>162910604
>end year 3k
why

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>>162920752
My newest world after i made a few changes to raws.
>dorfs max age is now 250/300
>dorfs get adult at 6
>gobbos has to eat and drink
>max gobbos age is 25/50, adult at 5
>they are half the size of a dwarf ( 30 000 cm - like dog )
>multiple litter 2 - 8

Still did not helped ;(

>>162920159
There should be some differences due to the different raws you use, but they should still be nice and interestingly mixed up for adventuring with some cool spots to fort it up at as well.

>>162920902
Usually you stop well before then.

>>162903675
lots of demon types I believe helps. The more demon types than the more demons will get a sphere associated with a deity who will raise them up and construct a vault and form a gobbo civ.

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>>162921089
Year 1050, large map.
Dwarves barely colonized anything, and big mountain chains remain untouched.

been a while since I played, do animals still give 1 leather no matter their size? If so, is there any mods to fix this?

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>>162921882
yes, but you can change this by hacking apart their bodies in battle and the individual pieces like limbs, feet, heads, all give 1 leather.

Whats the most bloody war you've seen /dfg/? Just saw this war where like 1/12th of the world pop died in less than a year.

Toady a shit

>>162922676
I wish there were "real" borders in the game, and that some civilization wouldn't randomly plop down sites in another's territory all the time.

>>162922996
no u

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>>162922676
I had a war where the humans and elves completely wiped each other out, both had barely 20 people left in their civilizations.

>>162923020
Nation states, including borders are a pretty recent thing in human history, In the past people just moved through lands.

>>162922676
I can't say I've seen anything close to that.

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>try the game out again
>spend four hours looking for a site
>close it

>>162923517
>not just picking up a good pregen
Why subject yourself to needless suffering?

So is there anyone left who still thinks the update is coming out this year?

>>162923959
Keep hope alive fucker...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3N_Lkgftc4

>>162923363
Stop justifying toady's lazyness. City states had spheres of influences and these were quite large. If you waltzed in some random place people would notice and your movements would be known. Also that's bronze age, and DF clearly takes places in high middle ages where kingdoms do exist.

>>162923959
I do, you unfaithful elf-fucked

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Is bronze better or worse than iron for weapons and armor?

>>162923820
post some

>>162923363
>borders are a pretty recent thing
there's only one border. the human border.

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>>162925031
>Is bronze better or worse than iron for weapons and armor?

>>162925376
It's a valid question mayne, methods of forging iron can leave it less desirable than bronze for different purposes.

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>>162925717
Dorfs have one method - that one that makes iro superior in every instance.

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>>162922676
>1/12th of the world pop died in less than a year.
Jesus. If that were to hapen today, it would be 900+ millions people
That's three times America, or more than 20 times Spain. Almost whole Africa would die in a war like that
If the alpha version of this game is this brutal, Im not sure if I wanna play a war in the final version

>>162926480
An Lushan rebellion

>>162924724
This is heavily dependent on the region we're talking about. Yeah Athens is gonna notice a bunch of Thebans on its chora because they're tiny and pretty damn close to each other. But Alsaice Lorraine/Elsass-Lothringen was a pretty vague "border" for ages

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>>162922676
Not the bloodiest but definetely the crazest ...

>dat bodycount
>no victories
>against treehuggers

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>>162925031
Bronze is better than iron in real life but harder to produce since tin was a limited quantity, iron was just easier to get in bulk and it wasn't until steel making got going that bronze was obsoleted finally.

>>162921535
That will never be significant factor in the number of goblin civs you have. For one, there's no stricture that prevents multiple demons of the same time from being goblin civ rulers. Even if that weren't the case, your demon types would have to be less than 1/5th the number of civs generated for it to make a difference, which would require the player to reduce it by a lot in most advanced worldgen setups. As it is, though, the only way your number of demon types will limit goblin civs is by setting it to 0.

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>>162924724
Well, I doubt we can say DF has a middle ages setting anymore.

As early as when Toady added the new towns and hamlets, he was pretty open about the fact that he had looked at maps of early modern cities when designing them.

And now, with the newly added libraries, lots of inventions described in the books are obviously early modern inventions (i.e. camera obscura).

Of course, it will be even moreso once it comes to implementing sea travel.

It would be pretty cool to have different kinds of civilisations and states develop separately in different parts of the world, and when they ultimately encounter each other we might see one of them ending up as a colony of the other.

>>162927297
Remember when humans, dwarves, and elves were in radically different technological levels of development?

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>>162927297
Varied customizable tech level in DF WHEN ??!

If I embark on a world where there's no dwarven civilization, can I somehow retire my first fortress and let the history generation run again and have a new civ develop from my fortress?

>>162927297
THERE WERE NO COLONIES IN THE HIGH MIDDLE AGES

>>162927449
Not yet, no, repackaging for world-gen isn't a thing apparently.

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>>162913762
if you dig down and crack open a cavern, wait a season or so, and then take another screencap of your bedrooms I'll draw them a second time.

>>162927297
>enter dungeon
>it has a camera obscura
>the characters comment on the ghostly wall where everything is upside down and backwards

>>162927297
Thinking about that, you are right
Stuff like cameras oscuras werent a thing until the renasissance
And as many people, I think Toady will want to add galeons, which as Timbuk pointed out some threads ago, are more of a renaissance thing than a medieval times invention
>It would be pretty cool to have different kinds of civilisations and states develop separately in different parts of the world, and when they ultimately encounter each other we might see one of them ending up as a colony of the other.
That would be so rad. I would love if I could make dwarves access steel age while elves are still starting to make pottery, and most animal people civs still living in mud huts for me to colonize

>>162927027
>Bronze is better than iron in real life
Not really. Some bronzes are better than some irons in real life. On average, iron is usually harder and holds an edge better, and bronze is universally heavier and more resistant to environmental damage. The metal source and smelting methods can have a major impact on the final product.
DF's raws do a good job of approximating that, making them very nearly equivalent in terms of efficacy as weapon and armor material. I doubt we'll ever see regional differences in material composition to any degree that would make one source of iron (for example) stronger or more easily worked than any other, so the raw values as they stand now will probably not change much.

>>162927598
Well, first, there were
and second, thats not exactly something that can only happen in modern times
The fact that it wasnt as common in our history doesnt mean it couldnt happen in a parallel time-line

>>162927857
>new embark
>start digging in the mud, carpenter putting some shit together out of logs
>150 mounted humans in steel with gunpowder weapons stroll up
>"we demand your gold and wives or your lives!"

>>162927598
There were, they just mostly didn't involve European powers

>>162928176
I wouldnt even be that mad actually
It's still a slighty fairer, and more amusing, early death than polar zombie bears or so

>>162921882
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=122003.0
Be warned, it is a bit too strong, and breaks parchment making in recent versions. It should be a small additional raw edit to fix parchment making, but I haven't been motivated to figure it out.

>>162927857
Alternately:

>some random animal people tribe develops metalworking before the rest

>Might tigermen empire outta nowhere that dominates the traditional races.

Now that'd be something.

>>162928324
Yeah, I would definitely prefer some bandits kidnapping the two women of my starting seven than lose all of them because some nigger-doggo got randomly revived by a near necro

>>162928142
Why don't dwarves have non-linear time perception and eat exclusively butter? That is something we don't have today but could have been possible in a would be dimension. Why don't we actually play a indescribably game with things that we can't comprehend and have not been discovered yet? Those aren't common either, at least not on our present time.
>>162928195
>Chinese military protectorates are now colonies
Colonization is a different effort than the one employed by them. And of course there were norman, greek, minoic, phenician colonies etc. But that is settling somewhere and living there. The poster said invading someone and saying "we are coloni nao" like Britain did to India.

>>162927257
>of the same time
Should say "of the same type".

>>162928402
*mighty tigermen empire

>>162927671
lol

i'll start digging under the rooms then.

>>162927416
Right now. You can mod any civ to have (or not have) access to any existing "techs" you want, and you can add new techs to your heart's content. Allowed building/allowed reaction/ allowed profession entity tokens together can radically alter a civ's ability to use and access almost any material in the game.

>>162928620
>And of course there were norman, greek, minoic, phenician colonies etc. But that is settling somewhere and living there. The poster said invading someone and saying "we are coloni nao" like Britain did to India.
The Normans, Greeks, and Phoenicians all did that too.

Indians a bit in Indonesia as well.

>>162928620
ayyyy senpai
Romans brah
>>162928843
>Civs gaining proc. generated glory names for their relevance in the world
Oh god, arm the soldiers, we are leaving for constantinople

>>162929010
Romans didn't colonized. They assimilated, invaded, murdered or bought.
It seems most people here are having trouble to see difference between settling, military conquest and colonization.

t. historian

>>162927963
http://anthropologist.livejournal.com/979113.html

Iron breaks, bronze bends, iron rusts, bronze doesn't. If the game tracked humidity and rust for weapons it would be fitting.

>>162928620
the chinese definitely did things that could be considered colonization by modern standards. redefining "colony" to "military protectorate" is semantical, especially when there was a large movement of cultural artifacts into these locations. nice poetry.

>>162929240
It's almost like it's vaguely defined and just a bit arbitrary.

Now tell me how Macedonian military colonies throughout the near east don't count.

>>162929567
>led by military
>commanded by military
>intent of killing and subduing natives so they wouldn't trouble main china of the time
By your logic the chain of causality that allowed things such as the indo-greek kingdom to come into life are a deliberate colonization attempt such as described by the frog poster that started this.

>>162929894
you mean the chain of causality that included deliberately settling Greeks and Macedonians in Bactria?

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>>162929614
greek*

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>>162930073
>implying

>>162930056
From what I've read he built fortresses and cities around them to stablish his presence in a very hostile region during the goosechase after the traitor bessus. Again like some other dude said you people are thinking military conquest and colonization are the same thing. They are not. And taking things so far back into the bronze age when there wasn't even the idea of a nation and talking about colonization is presumptuous highschooler logic at best.

>>162929894
considering a large amount of "colonies", particularly african and american ones, had arbitrary borders that remained post-colonization defined by their colonists and were only meant to harvest resources, yes, I consider the differences you are drawing to be arbitrary and your arguments semantical.

europe likes to make their brand of stuff look different and superior from other people's stuff. the fact that europe is a "continent" is a prime example of how deep this mentality runs.

So is DF /pol/-approved?

>>162930312
He settled a number of his veterans and their families to live there indefinitely leading to a resident Greek and Macedonian minority throughout much of the known world for centuries.

>And taking things so far back into the bronze age when there wasn't even the idea of a nation and talking about colonization is presumptuous highschooler logic at best.
>Hellenistic period
>Bronze age
what did he mean by this

>>162930417
Fuck off to >>>/mlp/ poltard. They made a containment board just for you.

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>>162930417
>caring about that bunch of brownshirt cucks

Who cares ..

>>162929348
I'm not sure if that comment/link was intended to agree with me or not. In any case, that's not a very good source. It's a fantasy writer asking a question and a bunch of people saying, essentially "I guess bronze is better." Of those 16 comments only 2 of them were sourced, and both of the sourced comments agreed with my more nuanced response.
Also everyone there saying that iron is heavier is objectively wrong.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/metal-alloys-densities-d_50.html

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MAKEDONIANS ARE HELLENES

>>162930073
hello /eog/

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this invasion has brought me down to 4 FPS, I was hoping my new PC would be able to handle 100 z levels on a 7x7 embark, guess I was wrong.

I don't want to start a new fort I like this one T-T

>>162931078
>7x7 embark

Radical as fuck.

>>162930602
Fuck, looking at it I blame the woman for distracting me while I was copypasting, I thought that was the link with the guy bashing bronze and iron together, but apparently it wasn't.

I thought I had the link with the first guy here doing testing but I cleared a bunch of clutter out recently and can't find it anymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjMtzJ6xgQ

>>162930575
>building into dirt

>>162930417
definitely
In what other games can you toggle off gays and blacks?

>>162931509
That was a good video. Thanks for linking it.

>>162930575
Fucking pleb embark.
Go tundra(or even harder, a glacier) and a volcano for an easier development.

>>162933343
It's not as good as the other one where they had replica iron and bronze weapons and armor and tested them but it isn't coming up in my searches.

>>162933480
Old screen, back from my noob days.

Nowdays i almost always embark on deserts or tundras - mostly evil.

bamp

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I was fairly amazed by the brutality depicted here.
Could you share yours?

is there any way to draw up local maps in legends mode? as in, making what is viewable in adventure or fortress mode viewable in legends? I'm not very familiar with the mode.

>>162936442
You can export maps of the settlement sites of the main races.

>>162899660
Choose "multi-attack" in the strike menu.

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>>162936031
my favorite will always be my militia captain getting his head popped while I was trying out my fancy new mussel shell helmets.

>>162936730
that's a shame, legends mode would be an incredible tool for tabletop gaming if you could acquire local area maps at will. "incredible" would be an understatement, it would be the best. especially after artifacts and magic get updated.

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>>162936031

>>162937140
>that's a shame, legends mode would be an incredible tool for tabletop gaming if you could acquire local area maps at will.
wut. I just told you that you COULD get the maps. or did you mean a different kind of map?

>>162937878
as in having a three-dimensional map object of any specific spot in the game viewable, as if you were in fortress mode. having a tile-by-tile map including walls and objects where creatures occupy tiles is important for dnd-style tabletop gaming. there aren't any map generators out there as sophisticated as dwarf fortress.

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>>162937878
Yeah, I think the site maps aren't as detailed as they were hoping, though they are still handy for broad planning.

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>>162936031
pussy
lern2brutal combat
Treasure this pic, I only get this gems once in a while

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>>162936031
my favourite

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>>162939175
>human foot
>brutal
>pfft

>>162936856
yeah, but it has drawbacks that should dissapear once you become a good fighter
It should be easier to access

>>162939175
wew, I almost wanna retire my post about Toady needing to add more combat brutality stuff

>>162939090
yeah you could easily use a map like this as a resource for building a city for your party to have encounters in, but you would have to build the maps for encounters manually, even though the engine supports this feature in fortress mode.

I've DMed quite a few games, and if I could zoom in locally on sites with ease, as well as get into the caverns(underdark), I would never use anything but dwarf fortress again when generating encounter maps. if there was creature/character/artifact information available on these maps as well, I expect DF would start seeing tabletop play regularly once someone designed a system. it would save DMs literally up to 95% of their time in game design, nothing is more tedious than encounter maps.

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>>162939362
>literally severing/tearing with a blunt atack
>pfft

m8, he kicked someone so hard his foot came out flying. Literally the hardest thing to do that has been posted
what else do you want?

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>>162940115
Well, I do know how to teleport an adventurer around in travel mode.

You could also see if you could get isoworld working.

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>>162940445
That combat log I posted had a whole hydra head punched clean off. It's actually harder to do with squishy folk because their heads just collapse instead of flying off.

Though if you want challenge level, I present: embedding a thrown elf corpse into the head of another elf.

Is it possible in any roundabout way to create a 'fort' as an adventurer and play in it in Fortress Mode?

>>162940536
yeah, even teleporting an adventurer around is pretty tedious as you have to explore and record regions of the map you're using instead of simply using screencaps or projecting. I wonder if toady would consider adding a few tabletop resources to legends sometime. dwarf fortress can easily btfo dnd by accident.

>>162941281
With dfhack and advfort, you can also embark on an adventurer camp but it can crash if you aren't careful about removing zones from the campsite before embarking over it.

>>162941281
y tho

>>162941574
J-Just wanted to roleplay as a Conan-type barbarian and eventually found my own kingdom once I become famous which I could then continue in Fortress Mode.

>>162941281
>>162941782
Patience
It is intended that the lines between adv mode and fort mode slowly blur over time, so perhaps one day long after our deaths

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What did he mean by this ?

>>162942287
cloth made from wool

plant or silk cloth won't do

>>162942287
>>162942689
Basically you are shit out of luck if you dont have an animal that can be sheared :)

>>162942287
he meant he wants to starve to death because you don't have an alpaca walking around.

>>162942287
Time to wall that fucker off and wait for him to die.

>>162944830
>there are people that wall off dwarves in case of a tantrum
Why do you hate fun?

>>162945341
>tantrum
Failed moods lead to insanity, not tantrums.

>>162945341
Because I'm just a dirty dirty casual.

>>162945754
Oh! in this case I can accept SOME fun I guess. Anyway it's not me suffering the lethal lack of yarn cloth luckily... yet.

do you guys listen to music when playing dort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GhWTGXtlgc

Is it impossible to eat fish in adventure mode?

>>162927027
Forgot to include the world-gen for that one, it's partially vanilla style terrain settings with a bit of tinkering for adventuring stuff: http://pastebin.com/yDqnBhKq

>>162917069
That's the way it is for everyone. Remember, losing is fun.

Does arguing with civ leaders to a point where they change their values leave any sort of impact in the world?

>>162927297
>As early as when Toady added the new towns and hamlets, he was pretty open about the fact that he had looked at maps of early modern cities when designing them.
I distinctly remember him specifically mentioning using maps of medieval cities for research. I tried to find it in the devlog with no luck. Do you have a source?

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>>162793812
Gottem. Sorry for delay.

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>>162793812

>>162947843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiJae5yZhXY&t=163s

dorf will always be baroque for me

Why are bogeymen in the game at all?
And how do they not prevent civilization from existing?

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>>162950760
they aren't in my game

>>162950760
he he he

>>162949306
>>162949460
Oh fuck. These are great.

>>162950760
Bogeys only attack when you're alone. Strong incentive to civilize, no?
It's strongly implied that bogeys aren't even real, that they're just mental projections of the player character. Your nightmares come to life, or something. Creatures with [NO_FEAR] are even friendly to bogeys.

>>162950760
They can't go indoors, and they provide a challenge when you're weak enough. They're a neat idea but it'll be better when they're an emergent feature of the world instead of a parameter.

>walking through a wooded area said to be haunted
>You hear shuffling footsteps and groaning!
>The dead begin to rise and chase after you just like bogeymen.

Most of the dorfs in my embark party are wimmin. Should I be concerned?

>>162952492
Nah, if they pop out kids that's an extra shield.

How far can a creature with max swimming skill swim? I'd like to know if it's possible to swim to another continent in adventure mode if it's cut off by a narrow strait or if I'm stuck on the landmass I spawn on.

>>162954124
It's entirely possible to swim to other continents
You just have to be careful you're not in an area where the ocean will flash-freeze at night and kill you.

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>>162954302
Yeah, it's rather terrifying having walls of ice close in around you.

Another option: get a minecart and ramp yourself across it!

>>162954124
No maximum distance, at any skill level. Swimming only tires you out if you swim faster than the default speed.
The biggest threat is the ocean freezing solid.

I want to make a fortress that spans generations with only the descendants of my original seven. How doable is this?

>>162954501
>>162954465
>>162954302
This is why it's best to start at night while the oceans are frozen, then have them thaw during the day and swim the rest of the way.
Assuming that thing that happened to me doesn't happen where the ice just kinda melts in one spot and you're stuck in a giant square swimming pool surrounded by ice walls.. I don't remember how I managed to get out of that one

>>162954302
>>162954501
Okay, that's a relief to hear.

>>162954465
So it could make a fort on one side of the strait, make a giant minecart ramp, and launch myself to the other side of it with an adventure mode character? I have to do this now.

>>162947843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYc1-Ic1vJg

for some reason I find weird 70s/80s synth goes well with dorf fort

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>>162955271
Yes, fair warning: WEAR FULL ARMOR, ALL THE ARMOR.

Make the ramp HUGE btw, I can get myself capped on cart speed with a buffed 10.0 spd adventurer but normally you're gonna have to push at a slower tick rate.

If you can get impulse ramps going that could work to get your speed up too!

>>162955124
It's tricky. For one, since you have an odd number of dwarves you'll only have 3 pair, with one being foreveralone. Two, dwarves will only marry with 10 (I think) years of their own age, so you have to either get really lucky or embark scum a million times until you have 3 compatible pairs. Simply being the right ages isn't enough; they also need compatible personality traits, and some shared prefs makes it easier as well. Then you have to get them to actually hook up, which dwarves with even a moderate workload won't do. Honeymoon suites are the way to go for this. Basically jail cells built and stocked for two that you confine your pairs to until they decide to get married. They need to be idle, and able to socialize, while also meeting incidental needs. This can take a long time. Months or years. Luckily you have a foreveralone fortbitch to keep them supplied in the meantime. You'll need to wall in to keep migrants out, and an easy no-fuss way to kill them, and your foreveralone will need to take time out to make slabs for them. You'll want to avoid trade to keep from attracting more migrants and passing the strange mood threshhold, and should probably ignore the liaison as well.
If you can do all that, you'll get babies eventually, and then wait 12 years for them to grow up and repeat the process with gen 2.

>>162957164
I just want to be pure.

>>162942287
don't you know what yarn is

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can you do anything with caged plump helmet men? anything at all besides a zoo?

>>162955162
No, it's best to only cross the ocean in summer or in a tropical region, because you really do not want to be caught anywhere near an ocean repeatedly thawing and freezing, especially if you can't fly.

I have a save archived in which my mosquito man vampire has been flying for IRL hours and still only crossed half the ocean due to lag.

>>162957847
You can use them to safely traumatize recruits.

>make outdoor fort
>year 3
>dragon appears
>recks my shit completely
>some dwarves manage to hide in certain parts of the fort
>A VILE FORCE OF DARKNESS APPEARS
>160 goblins and trolls attack
>the dragon won't have any of that
>mows down 80 or so of them before it finally falls
>goblin search parties rounds up and kill the last dwarves

Didn't expect high savagery to be this fun

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Kitties+Classes=?

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>>162961459
kitty litterate

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>>162962806

Begone fear!

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I've encountered an extremely weird problem. I'm not sure how to best describe it, but basically, I'm trying to construct something (literally anything, but specifically two floor tiles or maybe a single wall tile in the middle of wide open dug-out space on top of rough cave floor, nothing special at all), and at a specific location the construction cursor just bugs out and shows "no access to building material", even though it's literally a wide open floor with plenty of access.

The exact situation is this: down at the magma sea, I have a couple of levels mined out, so there's like 3 floors above each other, and lots of staircases leading to a completely safe and walled-off underworld. On one of the lower levels, just above the magma sea, there is an area of space where the cursor starts showing "no access to building material". Like a line that you cross, and after that you can't build anything anymore - for absolutely no reason. There's smoothed stone floor, there's diorite around, it's really completely accessible - no holes, no open space, no nothing. If I move the cursor further into this dead-zone of not having any access to building materials, it sometimes switches to a green cursor on single, disconnected tiles, allowing me to build there - but the only building materials it shows is diorite (there is some diorite scattered on the wide open floor), but with a distance of -15130, and a number of 100, not 99 like I thought the max was, but 100. What is going on here?

I'm on 40.24 and extremely attached to this fort, and I definitely don't want to abandon it. But I'm moving everyone down into a hell palace, and I want to continue digging out the entire map and eventually fill the magma sea (I've already started in parts). But what the fuck is going on?

>>162966110
>40.24
Copy it and see if it works in 43.05, the weird cursor bugs from dfhack planning mode were a thing back then but I can't recall what was going on exactly as it's been years.

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>>162966571
that's a great idea, thanks... i'm just scared there's more to it then that, since they've ignored a simple smooth job (pictured) for a few seasons. it seems they can't path too close to the magma sea somehow? but only in a few very speicifc locations?

>>162966110
>40.24
it's time to move on, son.

*pats back*

>>162966110
>40.24
I'm pretty sure pathfinding used to just occasionally glitch out for no reason in one of those old versions. Have you tried upgrading?

>>162966110
http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=4372
>fixed in .42.03

Update. There's no reason to keep playing .40.24, as it has no benefits over current versions. If you were playing 34.11 I would understand, there were some game mechanics that were changed radically in .40 that not everyone liked. But .42+ was a strict improvement on .40.24. And if I'm guessing correctly about who you are based on you pop count, you've been told this on numerous occasions. U P D A T E.

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>>162966998
>>162967029
>>162966998
>>162967029
i can't just flat out upgrade, right? i mean, won't it be weird? i'm mostly concerned about the wear and tear on armor that was introduced, since my military is in full adamantine. they don't really see any combat anymore, but... can i just flat out upgrade? i mean, i know i won't get some new things like books and paper reactions and stuff, but i'm wary of some other things that were changed... i couldn't name something explicitly, but i feel like a whole lot of things where changed, and i really wanted to finish this fortress before moving on.

and the thing is, the pathfinding worked fine all this time - i've dug out sooo much of the map, too. it's really just this particular area. i'm scared of changing the lives of my dwarves too much, they've become extremely complacement in their sort of utopia. i guess i'm specifically concerned about the new needs system, i feel like i have too many dwarves for them too start with all these abstract needs and wearing of crafts. ideally i'd really stay with them in olden times until their story is done, but i guess if there's no way around it... isn't there?

picture is the partly obsidianized magma they started digging into before stopping.

>>162967398
>http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=4372

thank you so so much for this. i'm heartbroken, but i guess i'll have to upgrade... i really wanted to avoid the needs system and armor degradation, as well as the entire locations thing, but i guess i don't have a strong enough reason not to.

but: won't it be weird for the dwarves? they don't have any temples or taverns or anything like that. they just had freeflowing booze everywhere, 43.x seems like such a drastic change to their lifestyle. what will i need to change for them? just constructing a few locations (tavern, temple), and providing them with wearable crafts for "feeling extravagant", is that it? and i can't have a scholars or books or libraries ever, right?

>>162967686
new fort.

>>162967957
>>162967686

Temples/taverns/libraries are as simple as putting down a zone literally anywhere. There's nothing else to do. You obviously have plenty of space for it. They can be as arbitrarily large or small as you want. You're kind of right about libraries, they won't be of any use to you probably, but maybe dwarves will ponder/discuss things? Not sure, let us know if you try.
It really is as simple as just updating. Copy/paste your region folder and you're golden. It will take a little time for your fort to move into the new swing of things, and one update changed how weavers path during web collecting jobs in a way thay won't carry over into new saves. If your weavers walk through every web they see on the way to the one they want to collect, that's why. Other than these things everything should be fine.

>>162968463
Oh, uh, and make mugs. Put a couple of chests in each location zone, like you did for your hospital.

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>>162968331
never ever

>>162968584
Curious how moving to 64 bit would help, and the wear only applies to damage, not time based wear on armor.

To wear candy you need to bash it with better than candy stuff basically.

So what's the word on dfhack for the 64bit version? I haven't been following since spring or so.

>>162968463
>>162968545
hmmm, thanks. i'm not too concerned with providing grand facilities, but i'm worried how my dwarves will adjust. so temple and taverns will be all i need to construct to fulfill their new needs? will they have a need for scholarly thinking as will, and if so, would i ever be able to fulfill it without any paper?

is it really that simple? they just want a tavern and a temple, and optionally a library? for some reason i thought there were a few more changes with their psyche. so i really only have to worry about potential bad thoughts from lack of tavern or temple?

>>162968773
yeah, i've been really curious about that too... so realistically, adamantine won't ever degrade in fights against goblins, because they will never be able to damage it? i haven't had a fall in a while, but my dwarves do generally like to tumble down holes. a large fall still means i'd have to reforge their armor, right?


thanks for everything, guys.

>>162969102
There are additional needs, yeah. But nothing that requires any features you'll be missing in order to deal with.

>>162969102
>so realistically, adamantine won't ever degrade in fights against goblins, because they will never be able to damage it?
Almost. Their strikes won't damage it, but being knocked down or dodging into walls can, depending on the density of the material being hit and how hard the dorf hits it. Should be rare, but not impossible.

>have 99 dwarves
>Small military, only 10. Fully geared in steel though
>A plains Titan that breathes fire comes knocking and climbs over my half built barracks.
>Killed my military, set the entire world on fire
>Waltzed down into the main fort, no traps stopping him
>Last one alive was the mayor and him
>Can't see the final fight because I keep getting "the surface has collapsed, omg!!!!!!" Spam
>Mayor dies
Well, that was my first fort lost and I must say I expected to lose from something beneath the earth, not above

>>162969938
>climbs over my half built barracks
>building on the surface without already having fortified properly underground
You goooooooooofed

>>162970007
losing is fun my dude.

>>162970007
I wanted a surface farm and pasture. Watching the entire world burn was fun, the collapse spam was not. I think next time I'll have a siege hallway

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>>162970050
Good man.

>>162969102
>for some reason i thought there were a few more changes with their psyche
There were tons of changes that all end up boiling down to just needing a tavern and temple. Actually, if your fort is running well enough in other areas, you don't even need those. The only emotional need I can think of that can't be fulfilled without the new locations is the need to pray. But not all dwarves care about god(s), and the ones that do can put up with not worshiping if everything else is going OK. They just will work slower/worse.

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>>162969347
It's hard to hurt candy, my dragonbone gear is between candy and steel and even full speed wipeouts in a minecart only put an x or two on it, artifact gear is totally impervious btw.

>>162930459
He meant that he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about

>>162928586
>interracial breeding
oh god no

>>162971274
I don't see exactly what the
the big deal about interracial or
or interspecies breeding would be
be that would inspire this sort of
of response, honestly.

>>162969102
Some dwarves have a need for abstract thinking, and fulfilling it properly without any books might be tricky. You can assign a dwarf as a scholar and he'll just sit there pondering things, but I don't think dwarves can do that on their own to fulfill their personal needs. It's possible that if you have a bunch of scholars, they can discuss things with the plebs, giving happy thoughts for everyone. You'll have to try it out yourself.

It's not a crippling problem either way. Temples and taverns are really easy, and should definitely work, so most dwarves should be at least content. Worst-case scenario, some dwarves will be distracted and work slightly slower.

>>162971274
>half-elves
>half-demons
>mules
Interracial breeding is amazing.

>>162933513
Well what happened in that video

>>162968919
using the linux version
works okay, just wanted the manager and to auto dig ore veins

>>162966110
>>162966571
>>162966998
>>162967029
>>162967398

so i upgraded from 0.40.24 to 0.43.05, it didn't change a thing. i mean, i did go up from 6 to silky smooth 7 fps, but i still can't construct anything on arbitrary tiles. exact same symptoms, a lot of tiles in that spot near the magma sea just can't be built on for lack of access to building materials, and the few random tiles within that "dead zone" that can be built on just show the negative diorite again. it didn't change anything, so i don't think it's that bug...

this sucks extremely hard, i went through a lot of vanilla crashes (treebranches...) and fps hardships, but it never became flat out unplayable. is there anything i can still try? i wanted to avoid retiring because i really can't afford to lose any dwarves.

>>162974250
Do you have temperature turned off?

>>162974357
no, but i once had it off for a while. strangely didn't have any impact on fps at all, so i turned it back on. it's been on for a while, but it was off for a few playsessions a few weeks ago.

>>162974026
Just more in depth bashing of swords and armor together and shit.

>>162974250
I mean, you're venturing into pioneer territory when you start terraforming entire maps. it's possible you've come across some sort of conflict in the design that's uncommon as your fort has ran for so long. maybe consider uploading the file and doing a bug report.

>>162974250
it's weird, the bug got a bit better - i could only locate the one tile that showed a negative distance for the single diorite listing. the other inexplicably accessible spots in the sea of forbidden constructions only show 1-4 diorite now, or occasionally all the building materials that i actually have access to. there really aren't any holes or anything that would disrupt pathing, like smoke or whatever. some arbitrary cavern floor tiles just can't be built on, and they're all clustered around this area. but it seems to me that there are more accessible tiles there now in general, and the material list for those ghost tiles doesn't seem as extremely bugged anymore.

still, i'm having the same problem. the only option i could think of at this point is moving everyone to hell and caving in the entire map on top of the magma sea. i'm beyond lost here.

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tfw no sedimentary layer

>>162974250
I'd suggest that you make a couple backups from the savefile, and proceed to try basically everything. Cave in the floors. Drop test dwarves to the unpathable tiles from above to see if they can move. Build some walls in tiles you can reach, just to distract the pathfinding algorithm. There's no reason to assume any of it will work, but you might as well give it a shot.

>>162974747
but i just turned a tiny bit of the magma sea into obsidian, that can't be that weird. digging out the first layer also doesn't seem super out of the ordinary.

>>162975030
yeah, i guess i have to. i just wish it weren't so frustrating. i spent way more time fighting the game's bizarre technical issues rather than actually facing any problems ingame. all this arbitrary bullshit really sucked the fun out of it now, i've built some walls and messed with traffic designations and started teleporting dwarves in, but it's obvious that this is just how things are now, and how they will be forever. maybe someday i'll somehow manage to retire and unretire the thing without losing almost all dwarves, or maybe repainting everything to open space or whatever... but this whole affair is just so arbitrary and inscrutable. i can already see myself wasting hours with pointless testing, knowing it won't change a thing. this constant reality of being only able to play the game in a very specific way, not the way that you want to play it, it's so exhausting.

still, thanks for everyone's help. if anyone still has any ideas how to fix it, it would be immensely appreciated. but i'm probably already too bitter to keep having fun despite this bug.

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this is whats going on now in my fortress, im waiting your requests, guys

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>>162978642
don't build any chairs, your dwarves can squat.

>>162974978
that's what u get for embarking on a valcano u lazy piece of shit

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chalk, limestone and certain kinds of marble are composed of calcium built up of ocean organisms living and dying and dropping their calcium-based shells and such over millions of years as it gets compressed and maybe undergoes some metamorphosis. jet and flint are formed the same way. flint is from silicate organisms.

>>162979153
pupperz

>>162981093
Many islands with limestone bedrock are believed to originally have been great coral reefs. That's cool as fuck. Too bad that worldgen can't do shit like that yet.

>>162981354
Thansk to Tarn "Useless shit" Adams

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Post your top 5 bay12 games. Ill start

1. DF
2. LCS
3. WWI Medic
4. I'm voting for myself!
5. Star Zoo

>>162981457
Armok 1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LCS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dwarf fortress

>Adventurer mode.
>Night soon.
>Site close by, maybe I can sleep there.
>nope
What do I do now? I can't go out I'll just get mauled by the bogeymen. Game won't even let me wait the night out.

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WE WUZ SPONGES N SHIET

>>162982068
>>162950996

>>162982068
For some reason, the last few releases prevents you from sleeping in monster lairs, in goblin sites, or on beaches. That's a shame, because exactly those places used to be perfect hiding places from the bogies.

You can still sleep on mountains to avoid bogies, though.

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What do I do with all these freeloading jobless faggots? I'm tempted to wall them off and drown them, they're draining all my fps and my booze. I also have a weretapir walled off who I can unleash on them.

>>162982357
Made them soldiers ?
Or some dedicated stone haulers for some biggg stone stockpile.

>>162982396
They're all non-dwarf entertainers and dwarf children, some puppies too. None of them can work

>>162982649
So leave them alone, its not like they can harm you.

>>162982760
muh fps
they outnumber my actual dwarves 2:1

>>162982860
Then get rid of taverns and lock down the fort ? And flood the entire thing with magma.

>>162982357
You can change the maximum number of visitors in the init.

>>162925117
Read the thread, I have, and so have others:
>>162909914
>>162910128
>>162910604
>>162913437

>>162978642
>tilling the soil like a human
Dig deeper. Find yourself some proper stone to dig your rooms into.

>>162981457
What about Corey's Mystery Massacre?

>>162949306
>>162949460
nice

>>162982357
Stop inviting them into your fortress you tavernslut. Set the location preferences to only allow citizens.

>>162984861
It would take the sixth place. I never quite got into it, but it seems like it has a pretty solid gameplay. It seems like a nice mix between roguelike, real time strategy and base building.

The rest of them are shit, except maybe Kobold quest. They're fun nontheless. Especially those with original soundtracks and voice acting.

>>162956691
I dont even know how minecarts work
If my max speed is 10, will the minecart even go faster?
Because I sure cant jump from one continent to other by swimming

>>162957847
is this you frownanon?
Thats fucking beautiful

>>162971274
>not wanting horny gods to create new intelligent species in-game
>not wanting that race of semigods to form new civilizations and new religions that force them to rightfully reclaim the world for them
>Not wanting to find this out as they come to invade you right after you embark

You really have some pleb tastes regarding DF improvement

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>>162985349
nah, the lines are too thin.

also, my knowledge of anatomy is too shitty to properly draw a skeleton. incidentally, I also found skeletons hard as fuck to draw when I added them to the comfyset.

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Hey /dfg/. I haven't posted here in like over 1 year or almost 2. It's been a long time. This is still by far my favourite general. Most chill, best dwarfriends and a joy to read.

That said I wanna talk about picture related. Now I know the general for that game died, but I also know a lot of us dwarfs lurked there for good reason. Sometimes you don't want a steak dinner but a tiny cupcake and that's what that game is for me.

This is something they are going to add in the next big update, which is supposed to be the biggest update so far. I'm looking forward to it. Just spend a few days playing the old patch 15 and experimenting on drugs and deep mining.

That being said it's been 2 whole years since I played dwarfs. So much seems to have changed. I think I'll have to get into dwarfs soon if this new update isn't coming out soon.

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Just started playing this game, this is not normal right? The sidebar takes up like double the space It needs to, tested several tilesets and toggling the settings like truetype etc.

>>162986042
smash dat mf tab button

>>162986041
The update will like come sometime in january.

Don't waste any time waiting. The current version is enjoyable enough.

>>162986042
Never mind I got it, wonder why googling "resize the sidebar" didn't show me this solution right away.

>>162986118
I got it like one second after posting lol, but thanks anyway my dude.

>>162986041
>that pic

You guys know what would be cool?

A world viewer utility that projects the detailed map on a sphere, and then lets you explore it like in Google earth. By using the height map, you should also be able to slightly alter the shape of the sphere according to the terrain.

You should also be able to choose how much of the planet is covered by the map. For unipolar worlds, it would be natural to have the map go from one of the poles to the equator, and for bipolar worlds, it should be stretched between both poles.

The only problem is that map projection isn't accounted for by the world generator, which will result in distortions and lost detail near the poles.

Even with this problem in mind, it would still be a pretty cool utility.

>>162986471
Combined with legends viewer and adequated to the upcoming features like pillars connecting worlds, it would be an awesome tool

>>162930612
[citation needed]
Also, wrong thread.

>>162986471
You could make the map generator output maps twice as long as they're tall, that could fit a sphere a bit better.

>>162986041
What game it is ? Looks nice.

>>162986894
Anon, 2016a: We wuz greekz n shiet. 4chan: /pol/
Anon, 2016b: Why do modern Greeks still believe that they descended from the ancient Greeks?. 4chan: /int/

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Found this in the battlefield General.

>>162987609
I'm not sure I get it (not a battlefied player), but I love all the faces.

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>>162987106
The picture related stuff isn't out yet, it's going to be though. Maybe in January, who knows. This is what the game looks like right now (max zoom and my current base).

It's RimWorld. A dwarf like clone with no Z levels or liquid physics and an emphasis on space and tech.

>>162987609
>there is Timbuk OC Im not saving posted in other generals
I dont think I feel okay guys...

>>162987961
It makes me feel slightly stressed.
I don't frequent BFG at all, I saw the image while cursing the pages.

>>162987961
Don't worry, Timbuk is a DF player more than anything else. /dfg/ is his main thread. The other generals are just his sidethreads.

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>>162987802
I was talking about screenshot.
I know Rimworld very well.

>>162987786
EA boasted about finally making WW1 accurate by including blacks and sand people, except they're basically all there is, at the wrong places, at the wrong times, making it inaccurate.

If I channel a large pit on ground level and then build a floor over it, will grass still grow?

>>162988567
Is that it? I wouldn't know, since I haven't played it, but I heard someone on 4chan (I don't remember where) say that, despite the provocative cover art, their presence was actually pretty marginal in the game.

>>162988301
>>162988276
i dunno mane, My autism is starting to realize that I may not have everything posted from all the drawfags in this general saved on my computer
My autist anger is a force to be reckoned with
>>162988637
no, its a construction
Wait until Toady adds terrashaping and you can send people to put dirt there

>>162988720
And if I build walls and put a floor over grass...?

>>162988720
He has been posting his stuff for a very long time. he used to live on /tg/ years ago, back when he was really shitty.
It might be for the best that not all of his stuff is recorded.

>>162987609
>>162987961
TIMBUK YOU SLUT

>>162989091
sorry m8, cant

>>162989147
>he used to live on /tg/ years ago
You are not helping

>>162988637
If you mud it then yes.

>>162984932
There used to be a bug with this, which caused all prior visitors to be unable to leave until you 'allowed' them to be there again.
Has that been fixed?

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>>162987609
>>162987961
>>162988276
>>162988720
>>162989586
I feel like a crappy husband. It was a one time thing, I actually did the soldiers on to by themselves and thought it would be funny to make it into a BF1 joke, the only time I ever posted in that thread, was when I would ridicule the game for messing up the uniforms.

that one guy is right though, my old stuff was nothing to write home about at all.
< Proof

Give requests so I can make this up for you lot.

>>162990440
Make a goblin Cortez marching into the dwarven capital on a artificial island in the middle of a mountainlake.

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>been offline on steam for months
>realize it's my birthday
>don't want to login as it would make me look like an ass who just wants happy birthday wishes
>I do though

I guess today is the best day to sink some hours into DF. Too old for that birthday shit anyway.

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Holy fuck, its the first world in a loooooooooong while that dont have the goblin supremacy ... I guess my modding changes work after all.

>>162990875
Happy Birthday motherfucker.
At least you have someone on Steam as a friend, i have exact zero ;)

>>162991094
The term friend is highly overrated online. You're not missing out. ;)

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>>162990440
nah drew, chill out
I was just kidding. I know, for example, that 9dots posts in bay12 or his own forum, but I dont think about it that much
With that out, If you could draw me pic related, I would love you very much

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>>162991094
>>162992094
>;)
>>162991094
What changes did you make?
Is it still a war-ridden world?

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>>162982073
bitches don't know about muh diatoms

Why no diatomous forgotten beasts bros? Toady is biased for metazoa.

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>>162992524

Those changes : >>162921089

>>162983648
>You can change the maximum number of visitors in the init.
What will happen if you do this for an ongoing game?

>>162992649
you basically made them mortal inteligent doggos
How come they win everyfucking time?

>>162992701
The game'll select randomly what extra visitors it has to make dissapear. But its a bit buggy, so they may explode instead of just dissapear
Its a good random game actually, I call it Fortress Roulette
I think it just doesnt make anything, but it may work

>>162992859
And if I just forbid the tavern to visitors again for awhile, what happens?

>>162992980
yep, then they should leave

>>162992859
>you basically made them mortal inteligent doggos
>How come they win everyfucking time?

They are outnumbering other races by giving birth to 2 - 8 babies at once ;)
Desptie those changes, its the first world i see them in minority ..

ok question for modders
Can I mod something so it lets me shoot anything I want?
I was thinking about creating a sling so I could be able to just pick anything as ammo and throw it
Is it possible?

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>>162990771
1/2

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>>162990771
2/2

>>162994552
>>162994642
nice additions to my timbuk folder

>>162994708
Thanks!

>>162990875
Urist was born today.
>>162992452
I will take some time on this one. Like a day or two. I have an Idea on how to portary this one.

>>162994926
Wow, thank you drew. If you want any ideas just ask

Is dwarf fortress becoming civ or something?

>>162995502
What did he mean by this?

>>162995502
je ne comprehend pas
pls explainu better

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>>162995502

>Played a long time ago using the Genesis mod, which was exactly what i wanted
>It died
>Take a long break
>Played long ago using masterwork which was exactly like i wanted
>Take a long break
>Want to play again
>It's been transformed into Masterwork Genesis
>It's not even half finished yet
Well fuck this.

>>162996137
meh

>>162998036
dumb post

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>embark in perfect comfy place
>dig in
>make temporary quaters
>secure the exit with a bridge
>dig deeper
>no iron ores, no coal and small amounts of anything usefull

I hate this game ....

>>162998606
>i embarked in an area without a sedimentary layer
>i found no iron
>this is somehow toady's fault

>>162998569
>>162998569
Your dumb forced meme is dumb you dumb dummy.

>>162999531
Nigguh, thats like my 10th embark in the same tundra with the exact same embark paramiters ( deep metals, shallow metals ).