/scg/edg/ Star Elite: Citizen Dangerous General 99

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For real tho no one has anything to say about my retaliator autism? >>161616674

I think the secret to making the tally good is shrinking its crew to like 4: Pilot, one dedicated gunner, Flight engineer, EWAR officer.

Its primary defense should be diversion and running the fuck away, not getting into gun battles.

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>>161618791
>>161619310
I gave you like five minutes to do it. I literally warned you twice.

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>tfw I fell for the ship kits meme

Whats easier for mouse and keyboard, Gimbals or non gimbaled?

>>161619602
Woah the F8 Lightning is hangar ready?!

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>>161619602
I just got it for the tail and bumper
All that shit that disrupts the original silhouette is hideous

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>>161619685
gimbals

>>161619685
I cant stand gimbals desu, and I only fly MKB cus my hotas is an X55 first run and as such is shit, I feel like they make maneuvering sluggish and unresponsive for a tiny gain in tracking speed and accuracy, that only starts to matter on ships like connie sized and bigger.

Basically if your ship can turn fast enough to keep the larger fixed guns on target why bother with gimbals at all?

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>>161619706
Really stimulated my hippocampus.

>>161619602
Ramp up Anti Aliasing and Supersampling when you take screenshots dude. That aliasing is burning the yes.

>>161619927
that thing just has way the fuck too many fins.

Why is everyone so salty about the flight model speed change? I think it looks great.

I'd rather actually see what i'm shooting at, rather than just an orange circle off in the distance with a small render on my ship's screens.

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>>161619991
>burning the yes

>>161620129
>Why is everyone so salty about the flight model speed change?
Are they? I don't follow the SC community anymore for reasons you can probably guess. The slower speeds are a good thing. The speed creep was causing a fuckton of problems for everything in the game.

>>161620129

Because they don't want hornetniggers to get an even more powerful ship.

>>161620129
People don't like change.
I think slowing down SCM will make the game more babby friendly, but then the boost/burner stuff being available all the time instead instead of being a mode switch and the maneuvering loss being a scaling thing rather than a toggle adds complexity.

But for real, people will screech whenever they have learned something and are comfortable with it and then it changes, just the nature of humans, change means adaptation, adaptation means work ans humans in general/gamers in particular, are aggressively lazy. I promise you that accounts for 90%+ of the crying.

>>161620273
I think the issue is the change has been made for the PU, but people are judging it on the arena commander balance.

The top of the line military fighters (hornet/Sabre) absolutely should outclass civilian racers or whatever. The real question to me is how a Hornet will perform in the PU - will it still be great at dogfighting? Yeah, probably. Will it have the fuel tank/cargo hold to be really useful long-range/inter-system? ...eh, probably not.

>>161620129
tfw I really loved the showcase of arena commander we got, including the bulky laser effects

>>161620273
Pretty much this >>161620642

Ship balance shouldn't be like gun balance in CoD or whatever, you shouldn't be on equal ground with every single-seater with weapons. Some ships should be superior, at the cost of, well, additional cost and difficulty to acquire in-game.

This has been bypassed fairly significantly by ships being available for purchase, but that's an entirely different issue. The game's design shouldn't be influenced because too many people bought Hornets in concept sales.

>watch ATV
>hey you can set your own custom cameras up so you can make cinematics while you play and shit

They do realize that this is going to be exploited to all fucking hell if you can do it in the game itself right?

>>161618646
I wish the Starfarer didn't have that dinky little bridge at the front. It looks pretty great from this angle obscuring the tiny bridge jutting out.

>>161620887
The drop cams only work in spectator mode. Tho a deployable drop cam would be neat as heck.

The over the shoulder"corner peak" cam is gonna be an issue if they allow third person of any sort, but the lack of hud keeps it from being a directly a combat advantage.

Also, SC is not an MLG competitive game. Having shit like cinematic cameras is literally more important than tactical shooter competitive integrity.

>>161621129
No thanks, I don't want to be fighting on a ship and then some faggot camping a corner in third person pops out and 1 shots me

>>161621241
Move slowly, check your corners, don't be alone, for every play there is counterplay.

The obsessive pursuit of "game balance" and competitive purity has killed a great many games recently. Many great games from the past were heinously imbalanced and had all sorts of exploitable mechanics but it didn't matter because they were fun.

>>161621483
>walk down a long corridor, guy is sitting at the corner and knows I'm there but I have no possible way of knowing he is there
>pops out and 1 shots me when I get close enough

no, there's no counterplay to that.

>>161621528
Have you actually played the game? You can camp corners right now and it doesn't help a fucking bit. If you're camping on a trigger happy motherfucker he's going to gun you down the moment you round the corner anyway.

>>161621528
The point is that you dont remove or disallow a promising game mechanic from an alpha because of what some faggot might do with it. You try it, if its an issue you either develop counter play or reconsider it. A simple counter to what you are describing would be a heartbeat sensor and a frag grenade.

>>161621682
I'm still waiting for a valid counter argument

I'm a LEM in CSGO and a Diamond in R6:S
There's no counterplay to third person faggotry because it gives you all of the benefits of peeking around the corner yourself with none of the downsides

You can say "Well listen to footsteps!" and yeah, but that's completely different because then you're still guessing exactly where he is and he will have his sights trained on that corner.


>>161621763
>might
What everyone WILL do with it, this isn't really a difficult concept.

>>161621528
>walk up to the enemy's castle, guy is sitting behind an arrow slit and knows I'm there but I have no possibility of knowing he's there
>pops out and 1 shots me when I get close enough

Pls remove castles devs wahhhh

>>161621834
Except you know he's there because you can literally look into the hole or just assume he's there because you're attacking a fucking castle wall and people are stationed there

Try harder next time bud

>>161621824
A guy third person camped a corner, I rounded the corner, and his "advantage" helped him out none. I shot him in the fucking face and there was nothing he could do to stop me because of how jarring the switch between 3rd and 1st person is and the fact you don't know where your guy's pointing when you're in 3rd, but you're still moving him. Or, if you want better camera controls, you have to completely divorce the control of the camera from the control of the person. That means you're going to have to readjust the moment you pop back into 1st, and that timing could be fatal.

You've got no HUD in 3rd person, and CIG will never give you one.

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what is it about star citizen that brings out the crazies in droves?

Last stand mode in star marine is oddly fun despite how simple it all is. I hardly play FPS so I have no idea what the official term for this 'capture and hold resource nodes for as long as possible to gain points' style game is. I've only ever seen it in WoW's Arathi Basin battleground.

They seriously need to put a flashing light on grenades, they're nearly invisible.

>>161622070
>i killed someone that is bad and let me actually get to the corner so it's fine

You wait until he's away from any cover and then pop out and shoot him because you know exactly where he is, any skilled player is going to win that engagement 95% of the time.

If you've never played an fps in your life then don't try to argue with me.

>>161621903
>Guy sits in corner of blackout room with shotgun, completely invisible facing backlit doorway.
>I walk down the hallways towards door, he hears me coming and one shots me as soon as I round the corner into the blacked out room where I have no idea he is and cannot see him.
>Wah devs light up every room so that every enemy can been spotted easily.

>Guy sits in security room of bank I'm robbing. >Sees me approaching the door to his room on his monitors, just as Im about to reach his door he pokes his MP5 around the corner and magdumps on me when I don't even know if he's in the room or not yet.
>Waaah devs remove security cameras.

Star Citizen has permadeath
Every corner and doorway is being camped.
Every firefight must be taken slowly and treated as if it is a tournament match with no respawns, because it is and the prize for winning is your life.

The same stupid ass "I should be able to run and gun" "best damage person second is automatically best" mentality that dominates CoD and BF and Planetside is being promoted by the arcade mode testbeds and it is simply not applicable to this game.

GO SLOW, be paranoid, use grenades on any suspicious rooms, slice the pie, wear armor, LISTEN twice as much as you look. your ears are harder to trick than your eyes. I could go on and on about how correctly unfair the fps mechanics of this game are going to be, but I'm not going to. All I'll say is that something like a freecam for shooting movies is way move valuable than a potential balance issue which they are already taking measures to mitigate.

>>161622169
>Ignoring the rest of my statement
>Ignoring changes to the armor system enabling survival of significant numbers of hits in heavy armor.
>Ignoring locational damage and differing damage amounts for different firearms.
>Ignoring the way the 3rd person camera controls and the lack of significant tells of where your character is pointing
The lack of a HUD and proper third person controls makes third person combat or aiming unviable. As you round the corner after camping nothing will stop your opponent from murking you just as hard as you expected to end him.

So today we learned that /SCG/ is completely garbage at fps games.

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>>161622836
>these are the people I'm gonna be farming in Star Marine

Hopefully it gives some decent REC

>>161622759
are you fucking retarded
if you have permadeath, all the more reason to (((not))) have third person, i'm not about to carry 500 grenades just because I need to blow up every fucking doorway because some retard might be peeking using third person.

Play Arma and you'll realize that third person is the most broken fucking shit ever in cqb, the defender gains an absolutely ridiculous advantage if they can just watch you walk up with absolutely no signs of them doing so being projected

>>161621824
you can't listen to the footsteps of someone whos standing still waiting for you

would honestly contemplate suicide if cig actually put third person camera in the pu, foot combat dead overnight tbhfam

>>161623390
That's what I meant though, without third person the camper would have to rely only on footsteps, which still gives him the advantage of surprise, but he won't know exactly where you are to just line up a headshot when he strafes out.

I can't believe there are people that don't see a problem with third person cam in a permadeath game

>>161621528
maybe come back when you've been following the game any longer than the last ATV

theyve been talking about on-foot radar and manual sonar detection for months and months.

is it in the game yet? no, it isnt.

>>161623968
So you need to bring a scanner to counter defenders third personing around corners, and even then they'll just see you pulling it out and gun you down while you can't even fight back

Nice bro!

The third person arguments are a rather silly considering you have an actual radar in your helmet hud. In some ways it helps to keep things moving. because going for run and gun is the only way you'll really ever take people by surprise people because they'll see your dumb ass inching around trying to be Mr Bad Ass Operator if you go too slow.

SM will need ways to fool or disrupt radar of course though. But I hope to god they never add some bullshit optical camouflage invisibility shit

>>161622092
what makes people watch live streamers at all is the real question

there is no possible way to convince me that 1/4th the screen being taken up by an average D.Va main is improving the gameplay people are watching in any way.

and literally what are they watching anyone stream? people pay sub money to sit there watching people play arena commander in a highly unstable pre-pre-pre-alpha testbed?

what is this world i'm living in today

>>161624239
They've already said a solid "no" to ship based invisibility technology. I doubt they've going to put in something person sized instead.

>>161624082
if you can't play around someone who's lit up on you and your squad's HUD like a christmas idk what to tell you

grenades are in 2.6 btw, their main purpose being to clean out covered fighting positions.

supressing fire has been in pretty much any game i can think of that has guns

You know what, I'm honestly impressed by how bug free Star Marine is so far. I mean, it's as basic bitch as a FPS can get but it's still "hell froze over" territory for something made by CIG. The only real bugs I've run into were falling through the ground a couple of times and every so often you'll respawn half in the floor and need to spend a couple of seconds to unstuck yourself. The only other issues are netcode related, or simple dumbass game design (the respawn points are fucking awful, I've lost track of how many times I've spawned right in front of someone)

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>>161624342
It's a surrogate friend basically. The result of the death of normal social structures. A lot of lonely people out there anon.

So we're going to see exactly where everyone is at all times? no need to even spot them?

>>161624739
>just throw a grenade at every single corner because someone might be there third person spying you!

do you even listen to yourself
I thought reddit was the cult, but you fags are even worse

>>161624342
>Watching streamers with fuck huge webcams
I just want to watch/listen to vidya while I'm doing other stuff. Most of TV sucks. Big webcam streamers are cancer.

>>161624985
So far, yes. Though that still doesn't seem to stop people from running right up to hack a terminal and not notice me squatting in the corner ready to literally shoot them in the ass..

>>161624739
you are retarded
foot combat will die if you have to clear or suppress every corner because someone might use magic shoulder camera to spy around it
please either stop smoking or suck start a shotgun

>>161624985
the radar doesn't cover the whole map, just maybe 30ft or so around you.

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Post waifus

>>161624239
>wanting childish run-and-gun instead of tactical combat in a sim
Just go play Battlefield or CoD or something. Maybe ED will have arcadey shooter bits when it gets spacelegs.

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>>161625448

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>>161625448
Best waifu

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>>161625448
Not even in it for the hype just loved the idea from day one.

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Cause she's gotten thicc

>>161625602
friend owns one, will be using it as the "mothership" for our group of about a dozen or so, mostly auroras however

>>161625650
stop posting cutlasses i can't afford to spend more on this

>>161625650
What the fuck happened to the cockpit? Why are there so many struts, and why are they so thick? Why is there a goddamn steel plate right in front of the glass?

>>161625478
it is a freaking in-game arcade shooter mode.

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>>161625730
Reminder that this is going to be the old busted shit.

>>161625741
its old concept art, not new redesigned cutlass

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>>161625730
What's that? More Cutlasses? How about the rework? It's looking pretty good for the old girl.

>>161625650
Anyone have any interior shots of the rework?

What was the gun that very early backers were supposed to get for free? All I remember about it was that it was supposed to be a crazy area-denial gun, like a Mantis on crack with smaller bullets. Had a really fancy name, but just can't recall anything more than that

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>>161625730 Oh god look at how sexy she looks on the inside. Being inside her feels nice.

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>>161625831
Done.

>>161625910
>dat fan
was considering buying it for just that, huge hardon for mi-24s for whatever reason

>>161625919
Damn that's a lot of space in the crew area. That has to be cutting into what used to be the cargo hold, right?

Have they said any plans for what'll be in there where the camera is (a table/shitter or something)?

>>161625106
>>161625336
i'm clearly being baited since what youre talking about isnt even in the game while not spectating but maybe you don't quite understand the aeons-olde concepte of how a minimap works in FPS games?

if someone moves or shoots near you theyre gonna show up on that minimap. then you toss the nade and or cover the position as you freind with the shotgun flanks him. obviously your dumb ass isnt going to waste nades or ammo, right?

Idk any other way to explain this man, i know it's been in literally all team based FPS games that have minimaps for the last decade and a half. if you've been playing too much call of duty and battlefield and don't understand the concept of strategy anymore i can't help you.

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>>161625997
I bought it for the toilet.

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>>161625448

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>>161626028
Probably going to end up being the crew living area a la the Freelancer or Constellation. They haven't said anything about it though.

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>>161626137
I'll be so glad when that old, busted shit can is replaced by this.

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>>161626093
Nobody is this retarded don't feed it

>>161625997
hopefully they keep it, it's a nice little touch but i doubt it's gonna be there - new cockpit looks to be much more verticle

>>161626648
they better not drop it
best part of the cutlass imo

>>161626137
>2016
>heavy UEE
enjoy your 15 degree field of view

on that topic is the view for armor changed in 2.6? kind of triggers me t b h

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>>161626412
I'm going to miss this beauty, and the toilet. But I'll gladly welcome her million dollar makeover.

>>161626925
I havent seen anything that isnt the basic bitch flight suit or the 1 set of marine armor thats in SM

hopefully that and all the massive issues caused soley by the armor you equip got adressed in some way

>>161626925
>on that topic is the view for armor changed in 2.6? kind of triggers me t b h
only tried the default armor and the medium outlaw armor so far , but the default helmet overlay is much less obnoxious and screen blocking than it used to be. The outlaw helmet (the one that's basically goggles shaped instead of a faceplate) is still fucking obnoxious though

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3.2 can't come fast enough.

I just want maximum comfy flying brick, and anything bigger than a Starfarer.

>>161626959
what's with so many scam citizen ships being made out of cheap riveted sheet metal?
That isn't going to hold pressure

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>>161627491
You call it cheap sheet metal.. I call it Drake Interplanetary.

oh fuck me guys I'm gonna buy a Cutlass Black and an F7C Hornet how stupid am I

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>>161627961
Ditch the F7C and end up with only a Cutlass and you'll hate yourself less. Never thought I'd say that.

>>161627961

>F7C Hornet

Pretty stupid. F7CM or bust.

>>161627449
How likely is it that the Terrapin will retain it's 1x s5? I want to twin link fixed s4 lasers and just melt everything in a straight line in front of me.

>>161628632
Wasn't that a utility only hardpoint?

>>161628704
No, it originally had a blurb that hinted at a s5 main chin weapon, alongside the huge radar on the top.

Fuck storefronts

>>161628632
The Terrapin only has a dual S2 mount.

>>161628814
Yeah, I know the default loadout is dual s2 gimbaled, but I want to dream of dual gimbaled laser mantises

>>161619432
That looks like an aegis-restyled constellation. Interesting.

>>161620129
Weird combinations of plain old autism and too tight a focus on "realistic space combat" instead of FUN.

We're just going to have to wait until we can actually play it.

For what it's worth, I tried playing some vanduul swarm last night in a mustang alpha and gladius with stock weapons and the combat did feel far, far closer. I had a much easier time hitting enemy ships. The trouble is, they did something to the vanduul HP where it takes an insane number of shots to kill them. I think it's probably just a bug, or has to do with server desync because the AI kept stealing my kills. I think I only got one kill attributed to me in about 4 waves before giving up. Hitmarkers were appearing but it seemed like I had damaged components to a point where they'd no longer take damage, and might have been blocking hits on the ship where it could have taken actual damage. I dunno, it was weird. The enemy AI did derp out quite regularly, and flew in straight lines when they should have been evasive. They even came to a complete halt several times, just getting shot so much my weapons overheated. the "match speed" functionality allows you to follow much closer to an enemy now.

Other anons were right, the M-series Behring laser cannons are now red, and have different sound effects and stats. Lower RoF, feels more "punchy". Similarly bulldogs have a lower rate of fire. The Scorpion ballistic gatling cannon on the nose has an initial warmup time before firing the first shot, then a sliding RoF increase until is furiously spitting lead, with MUCH better sound. Projectile speed changes mean the gladius stock loadout has a smaller pip divergence too, which is nice. I forgot to test missiles (I don't usually rely on them)

>>161620642
Maybe afterburner/cruise speed fuel tick rate is the long-awaited explanation of what "ship range" is. I hope not.

Has no one even touched a 85x?

>>161629351
its not out yet, is it?

>>161629419
>>161629351
Its out in 2.6 PTU. Doesn't have a QDrive so not much you can do with it.

>>161629351
>>161629419
Don't think they've put it in Avocado yet

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>Waited till I got a Fer De Lance to start dabbling in RNGineers
Was it a good decision?

>>161629478
>Doesn't have a QDrive so not much you can do with it.

Do you think you could fit one in a reworked Cutlass if you tried really really hard?

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>>161629628

Probably not. Like the Merlin, the X85 is supposed to be docked to another ship. You can barely fit a Merlin into a Starfarer.

>>161629906
>Like the Merlin, the X85 is supposed to be docked to another ship

Like what?

Also, have they even talked about docking mechanics at all yet?

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>>161629979
>Like what?

>>161629628
>>161629478
85X's main selling point made by CIG was that it DOES have a QDrive

>>161629979
85X comes stock on 890 jump, and likely with the alleged 600 series that's been hinted at assuming that's a connie sized ship

Constellation has a merlin snub fighter attached to the underside in the rear if you didnt know, not playable yet.

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>>161629979
CIG has been quiet on ship docking. Still a WIP as far as I know.

>>161630132
I haven't heard about that. You got a source, Anon?

>>161630061
I meant like what kind of ships would it dock with.

>>161630260
watch any video from this past week i'm not digging it up for you lol. mutliple devs say it throughout the week whenever the 85x comes up.

>>161629597

Doesn't really matter. You have to grind up the RNGineers to rank 5 to properly mod the FDL anyway, and that's best done in a ship that isn't the FDL.

Modding is also best done with other ships and then transfer modules because loljumprange.

For instance the FDL shares the same FSD size as the DBS and the same thruster size as the AspEx.

reminder that monoboating hornets will be the only relevant fighters next patch.

>>161630587
>what is a Sabre

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>>161621075
But the MISC "turtle head" cockpit is a staple of MISC design language, like the double-delta of Aegis or the RSI cockpits being sideways greenhouses.

>>161620887
Probably, they're hopefully just testing community reaction and it'll be disabled in a hotfix after a week.

>>161621129
I could get behind a gadget drop-cam, but it'd need to be able to take damage, limited range, take up a slot, yada yada.
Having ordinary 3pv disabled in combat has always been the plan, and it must eventually (once these new camera options have been tested for a while) go.
...
Discussion devolved from being about 3pv cornershittery to "camping" in general, with some of the worst analogies I have ever seen in any discussion, ever. Probably mostly bait, but at least one of you is clinically retarded.

>>161630838
>what is a decimal point in the shield HP shift rate stat

>>161630838

a ship getting it's shield fixed and slowed down immensely due to the overall speed reduction.

next patch will literally be .8 all over again with only the hornet being relevant.

>>161620129
Because the SC community outside of /scg/ is absolutely retarded

I mean more so than most official forums. Its fucking embarrassing.

>>161620129
>I think it looks great.
Second.

>>161630972

>scg
>not retarded and shit

less shit by comparison but still shit

There will likely be issues with the new changes (especially with so many ships going though it at once) but so long as a middle ground can be found which makes the new system simultaneously viable for combat, racing and long-distance travel in the PU, we'll be alright.

>>161630941

As it should be.

>>161620129
>people always bitch that you never get fights like this in space games even when its always advertised like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE7TFnSl9y4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rQDDc7Pxlc
>get upset when changes are made to make this more likely

Slow ships with high maneuverability is how you get 'chase' combat, where pulling quick turns to throw his guns off while preparing a smart maneuver to get someone off your tail and in-front of your guns happens. This is a good change, SC community is just retarded and doesnt know what it wants.

>>161631180
At least /scg/'s suggestions are not cancer, in fact there are some people here who have a pretty good idea on what makes space fun.

Other forums though are literally irredeemable. God fucking help you if you try to talk about PvP anywhere else, its the biggest carebear safe zone in all vidya.

>>161622092
Apparently this was an extra life thing, dude did this due to some goal being hit.

So no crazy, just a charity thing.

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>>161631505
>PvP is suffering the same fate as E:D because of forumfags yet again
I hope I'm just misunderstanding and its not whats happening

>>161631567

>cr
>listening to forums

that said 90% of the game world is going to be npcs

>>161631567
Chris isnt a nostalgic forumdad like Braben is, and he has plainly thought about the game as a PvE and PvP experience since day 1.

Our only hope is that he sticks to what that and ignores everyone else who wants PvP gone.

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Rapid Fire or Overcharged for Multi Cannons?

>>161632052
>Weapon that relies on continuous automatic DAKKA for its damage output
Rapid Fire of course. If you're running 2 MCs on a Vulture Rapid Fire will let you set WEP to 1 almost always with how low the distributor draw is.

>>161632120
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5fyrn6/star_citizen_around_the_verse_315_uk/daob24h/
>I believe Elimination has all three camera modes (Fixed, Follow and Free), Last Stand has only Follow (on your teammates).
(F42 Gameplay Programmer)

How does the Avenger handle in 2.6, evocati anons?

>>161632445
it's at least as irrelevant as it was in 2.5, maybe slightly less

>>161632493

So same issue as the Gladius.

Shame, I really like the design of both of them and they're the only two ships I own but it's not really worth the time at the moment to take either into Battle Royale.

>>161632551
I was flying the Gladius last night in VS and it feels way less drifty.

>>161620492
>and the maneuvering loss being a scaling thing rather than a toggle adds complexity.
Could you clarify what would have been a toggle for you ? Instantly loosing control if one of the maneuvering thruster get it ?

>>161633085
he means the SCM into cruise mode

since anything higher than SCM speed wasnt in AC to begin with im not sure what he's saying since AC combat will actually be faster assuming you can boost to top speed

>get FDL
>target hud obscured by window bars
so my hud elements are projected to outside my fucking ship?
that's some impressively useless technology!

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>>161631660
>Our only hope is that he sticks to what that and ignores everyone else who wants PvP gone.

And ignore the bunch of noisy prick who want to force competitive PvP in (by making npc crew shit so no one can fly an Idris alone)

>>161633579
If you're talking about the locked elements that show on an enemy ship, thats displayed on the window itself, thats why it isn't visible anymore when the canopy shatters. Everything else is holographic inside.

>>161633315
Feels like you can in vanduul swarm.

>>161624897
This, its also an added layer of carnival freakshow-ism, the streamers are compelled to do/act weird in order to get more attention. The most obvious ways of doing this are cosplay, and for females- titty cams.
People that watch this shit are lonely people who are being incentivized to "subscribe" for a surrogate friend who is just as "haha ur weird" as they think they are, because that must be the reason they have no friends in real life.
Its a sad sad broken world.

Thinking of upgrading my Cutty Black to a Connie Aquila if I don't end up liking the rework.

Do we know how exploration will work in this game or what the point of exploration-based ships will be? Isn't everything going to be 100% explored and mapped out in the first week? Is new stuff going to spawn randomly?

>>161635339

I'm guessing that after everything is mapped out, it'll follow a similar vein to the ICC missions at the moment.

>"We heard rumours of a jump point, can you investigate?"
>head to co-ordinates
>snoop around
>find jump point
>travel through it
>report back to mission giver for credits

I kind of hope it works on a system where if you want to use most of the jump points, you have to find them first. So the major mapped ones are available to everyone, but you'll need to find the others yourself.

At least then if other players get the first, there's a gameplay element of "hey can you give me the co-ords for the jump to <x>"

>>161635480
I'm sure it'll be like this, Freelancer had this.
I have a feeling too that there was an ATV or similar where it was mentioned that there will be procedural systems outside the known galaxy, and these will be ripe for exploration, discovery, and potentialy minable assets etc.
CIG obviously can add more hand crafter stuff over time aswell once theyve done their 100 base systems and the game is live.

>>161635581

Aye they'll probably flourish there. The art team is extremely talented. With all the stress of the game's core functions and mechanics finished, tested and released; giving them time to design new systems and stuff in-engine will probably produce some amazing results for future expansions.

>>161627961
Just wait if you can, I did a similar thing after that free-fly week for everything in the summer. Two months later every ship in the game goes on sale and my whole hanger has been swapped around for more quality and LTI memery, there will be many more sales of pretty much every ship. That said, the cutlass is a solid choice.

Does anyone know of a fix for this Lobby bug - arena commander -> spectrum -> public
Shows 2 teams, i'm lsited as "client player" - if i try joining I get booted to main menu, no error code.
?

>>161634523
you can boost to higher than SCM but it's not your top cruise speed like will be achievable now thru boost

top speeds arent being changed too much from what i understand, youre just gonna be burning fuel going anything above SCM

>>161635480 >>161635339 >>161635581
Last time I heard about this, some player wanted to have the game recognize them as the first one and give them an unique prize for that.

Frankly I would prefer the quest approach much more. I don't have 100h to waste scanning stuff at random and it would be pretty unfair to let that one guy who bought an Endeavor get more merit for that.

>>161635581
>future expansions
once again some players were pretty delusional, thinking CiG's team would procedurally generate enough new system for the game to expand continuously (like you know, the game's promises that can be interpreted much more conservatively)

>>161635581
Search scqa.info for that, because it sounds like bollocks.

>>161630898
>But the

it's just my personal preference on the starfarer, I think it looks garbage and takes away from what can be a badass ship design without it.

>>161638670
>Last time I heard about this, some player wanted to have the game recognize them as the first one and give them an unique prize for that.

That's not "some player" that's very specifically what CR has said about finding a new system JP from the very beginning. If you are the first to discover a new system and register it with UEEs mapping/navigation authorities it will be named after you or you will get to name it(with restrictions)

Thats not a pipe dream, that's the holy grail of exploration and will absolutely not be a repeatable generic npc dispersed quest.

>Would be unfair to let that one guy who focused himself entirely on science and exploration do the science and exploration thing.
You can find and jump JPs in a 315P, thats whats its meant for. On top of that, of course the science and scanning focused ships are going to be better at science and scanning.


>future expansions
>once again some players were pretty delusional, thinking CiG's team would procedurally generate enough new system for the game to expand continuously (like you know, the game's promises that can be interpreted much more conservatively)
Except that is, once again, exactly word of mouth from CR himself saying what the plan has been from the very beginning, game will launch with 100 systems, but like ~25 of them will be hidden, undiscovered JPs, as those are found more systems will be generated either beyond them or attached to other existing systems.

By the very nature of JP/wormhole short cutting rather than FTL new systems can be added literally anywhere at any time And as theyve been demonstrating, making a new system, particularly an unnoccupied system full of lifeless rocks, is something they can do very quickly and easily.

You are the one making up headcanon and applying your delusion as though they are fact.

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Decided to download the latest build and give Star Citizen another shot last night.

>Fall through floor of freelancer
>Once trigger is pulled, guns on lancer won't stop firing/ making firing effect
>Repeating audio glitches
>View controls stop working upon respawn, can move my character but mouse is now worthless
>need to restart game to fix issue
>repeat this 3x
>Finally get back in with a buddy and warp to comms array
>Game crashes for us both upon arrival to array

Yeah fuck this.

>>161642836
>the alpha is an alpha wtf
Bye then, please dont come back till general release.

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>>161642836

Its called an Alpha for a reason. At least you could bait your hook with their development timeline being all fucked up and slow as shit.

>>161635339
From what I understand, jump points, at least most of them, won't be static. Some major ones won't move, but getting to non major systems will apparently require finding a jump point and it won't always be in the same place. I could have misread all of that though.

>>161636953
If you followed one of those guys suggesting you get rid of the opening credits animation movie, it can cause that bug.

>>161642898
>>161642982
Even the earlier builds were more stable than this. It's just concerning that the most core components are this broken, yet they are pushing so hard for more additions such as Star Marine.

>>161642836

Hey guys decided to taste test a cake last night by eating a bag of flour, it was absolutely disgusting what a waste of time such a shit cake guys

Ok so, I fucked up pretty badly.

Does anyone have a Warlock, or CCU to warlock they'd be willing to sell? There weren't any $0 CCU to Warlock were there?

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>>161643202
That's what happens when you add shit during development: You break things that were already in, the things you add are broken, and computer resources get used up. So, you have to debug the shit that you added, find why it broke the crap you already had working, and optimize the game so it doesn't run like shit.

>It's just concerning that the most core componets are this broken,

Most of the stuff they had previously is getting replaced whole sale. I know that the network code is getting replaced in 3.0 which SHOULD fix all the issues with frame hitching, fps, and lag. I say should because its going to be broken for 6 months after they release 3.0.

>>161643202
> I'm not complaining about development time lines or any of that shit.

>>161643375
Try the trades subreddit I guess. Last time I checked you could get most ships with LTI more or less at cost.

>>161643375
Check star hangar I guess

Why do you want a Warlock?

>>161643526
>star hangar
Overpriced as fuck.

>>161643375
I could unmelt one for you if you want. Dunno how you'd plan to conduct the trade though.

>>161643526
By itself, the EMP is pretty worthless, admittedly. Since you dump your own shields and thrusters it's pretty hard to use it to any affect.

However, if you're working in a team, it can be devastating. Your friend(s) stay back, plinking the target while you rush in and hit them with an EMP. The moment the EMP hits, your friends let loose. Even if they recover shields and engines in time to avoid destruction, they're almost certainly going to be severely damaged.

Even when you are alone, you can still use it to some moderate effect, it's just a lot harder: Missile lock, EMP ready, as you get in range, fire missiles and EMP simultaneously.

At any rate, it's just kind of fun.

>>161643425
>All of this actual insight

I suppose you're right. I've only taken a few programming classes in my life, so I'm not the most knowledgeable on these things. It just gets frustrating as hell when you have very limited free time to play such things only to have what was a previously enjoyable experience turned to such shit.

>>161643876
I'd prefer a CCU since I have $70 in credit and don't want to spend more realbux than I have to, but I really miss the Warlock. My intention was to rebuy it immediately but I'm a retard and didn't realize it was limited.

I'm guessing the trade would just be via Paypal invoice.

>>161643526
Oh yeah, another detail. It has the SH style HUD and not that shit excuse of a HUD the regular Avengers have.

>>161644060
The avenger hud is a result of 2.5 catching them in the middle of an update.

I'd wait to see what's going on with huds in 2.6 first my dude.

>>161644259
That may be about the HUD, and I hope it doesn't just get stuck with the physical ship screen HUD like the other Avengers, but I still want that EMP.

Were there any other ships known to have an EMP planned?

>>161644060
If you want a CCU /r/starcitizen_trades really is your best option. You should be able to get a 325a->Warlock CCU for like 20 bucks if you're lucky.

>>161644378
>>161644060
Actually, here you go.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Starcitizen_trades/comments/4rkb5m/wts_various_lti_ships_ccus_upgrades_retaliator/

325->Warlock for 20 bucks.

>>161644643
Awesome, thank you. I was just clicking through the threads and hadn't come across that one yet.

>>161644342
remember to turn your thrusters off before it detonates anon

>>161644713
Yeah, I did that a few times. I may be missing something about the timing with that, but it didn't seem to have much of an effect. I'd still be pretty much out of control.

>>161643304
Wow, thanks. Replacing IntroMovies.pak in /_fastload/ fixed it.

>>161643364
probably a buggy server. The game is stable as fuck if you're in a server with less than 20 people in it

>>161633085
What I meant was that previously it was a toggled state you either had high-agility low-speed or high-speed low-agility, but no happy medium for high velocity pursuit, now you have a sliding scale of speed v agility which is controlled by your use of afterburner rather than set by a binary state change(SCM vs CRU).

I am not strictly talking about AC, Im talking about flight mechancis in general. AC is a tiny, meaningless part of a much much bigger game, and it is in that bigger game that flight controls and IFCS modes and available options for chasing down a target or evading pursuit yourself will really matter. Having the control be more about clever application of tools and lass about "fast mode" vs "slow mode" will lead to a deeper game.

>>161645538
it's true

it still triggers my autism though that needing to use afterburner to hit and maintain cruise speed basically implies friction, in space.

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>>161645640
I suspect the maintain part wont last. If it does then long distance cruising will be a really tedious, impractical and not fun game of cruising a way recharging, cruise more recharging and so on. I just don't see that staying. Though the solution might be to get up to max cruise and then decouple, that *might* remove the need to keep spending fuel to maintain velocity(a mechanic which I agree is absurd, you should only be spending fuel of any sort when you are altering velocity, be it acceleration on current vector or change in vector.)

I have some faith that chris will agree and not leave something that low fidelity and immersion breaking.

Also the afterburn isn't really an afterburner as much as it is loosening the IFCS velocity restrictions that keep you from blacking out or going so fast you wont be able to react in time to avoid space junkWhich is really more like going so fast you'll break the game engine..

>>161645640
Just pretend the IFCS system is like a speed limiter on your ship that you can't disable - once you get past a certain speed the thrusters automatically start to slow you down :P

>>161646208
>:P

>>161646208
yeah that's a valid explanation but it should also be able to be turned off

Whats the current weapon meta, ballistics feel shit with really quick overheat?

>>161646623
depends which ones you use, Sledge II mass drivers overheat quick, but Strife mass drivers have a lower rate of fire and ammo count, and I think they draw more power. Strifes are the way to go I think. All gatlings overheat pretty fast.

>>161646623
APAR Strife mass drivers on gimbals to instagib niggas.

>>161646870
I just tried Strifes in BR, lag seems to equate to Strifes dont hit reliably, and when they do they dont instagib.

>>161646623
>>161646841
>>161646870
furthermore, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13LzkKzDOKIdrhwL5E2n2Co6THa74A2izxn8lykDuPAk/edit#gid=1241570521 and starcitizendb.com

>>161647021
RTV twitch cigcommunity

is overcharged the best mod for multicannons?

>>161648304
R A P I D F I R E

>>161648530
alright thanks fampai

>>161648970
np, just be sure to go for the roll with the least Jitter

>>161643885
U can just bind weap, sheilds and thrusters power down to a single key. Use EMP then power back on. Works good with she ships with huge sheilds

I'm impressed by elite.
It manages to make even space combat in the rings of a giant planet feel boring.

>>161649192
If you're talking about the Warlock itself doing this, there's some things to consider
1) Power down weapons also loses your EMP charge, so it doesn't matter.
2) Power down shields accomplishes exactly the same thing as EMPing them. They lose their charge and have to recharge back from 0. They may start recharging slightly sooner.
3) Power down thrusters is the only one that might help. As it stands the thrusters lose all power and have to recharge back to full. I don't know if normal power down+back up has the same effect as the EMP doing it.

>>161649192
>>161649674
does the "power throttle" affect it at all?

>>161649974
To be honest I'm not sure what that even is. I assume it's the amount of power your engine generates to feed into components? It might be worthwhile to turn off shields and leave them off for a moment if only to get your thrusters working faster, or vice versa.

What I have noticed is that ships are disabled for a certain delay. Very very short though, 0.5 to 1.0 second, then they begin recovery. Shields start to recharge, thrusters start to store power (They work, but at a very reduced effectiveness based on current power buildup.) My weapons seem to work again pretty quickly, but they're just ballistics (Longswords and Tigerstriek.)

Some ships also seem to recover much faster (both thrusters and shield.) Namely Sabre, and SH slightly slower than Sabre.

>>161650230
something like that, I'm not too sure what it's supposed to do either. I know it reduces your signatures, but once you pass a certain threshold it fails to give enough power to your coolers meaning your IR spikes.

IDK its weird.

What weapons can actually kill sabres in 2.5?

>>161650451
Sabre are weak to Ballistics. Broadswords do well. In the other corner is the SH, which is actually weak to Energy.

>>161650436
I honestly couldn't tell you.

So besdies r_motionblur 0 what lese can you do for better fps in PU?

>>161650935
nothing

>>161650935
Not much really except pray you get into a low pop one or use the offline hack to play the PU offline.

>>161652221
Are there any good ways of increasing AC framerate? My machine isn't terribad, 3.5ghz quad core / gtx 770?

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>>161652218
>>161652221
>nothing

>>161652484
reduce the resolution

>>161652484
>AC frame rate

AC is how you can tell if your machine will run SC. If that's giving you issues you may have a problem.

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>>161652484

No. Quality settings are not programed into the game right now. The network code is also fucking up your FPS because of how the ships are made. Too many objects in the level causes the Cryengine to shit itself, lowering frames per second. Hopefully, CIG will get around to programing in graphics setting for our Slav Brothers with their potato CPUs and wooden memory sticks.

>>161652484
Look up config file tweaks. That "boredgamer" cuck has some on his site.

>>161652653
Literally, the framerate in PU has nothing to do with your computer. Frame rendering is choked by the netcode right now.

someone said there was a leaked video of a second fps map? anyone have that?

Schedule-report update when?

> Front caterpillar prongs do nothing confirmed on RTV
wtf CIG.

>>161629351
it's model is bugged. the cockpit and hud was invisible last time I tried it, so no idea how fast it is. The outside does look very nice and 4xS1s seems like a fine loadout for a snub ship.

so i heard a unemployed/homeless nigger, with diploma mill phd, keeps bashing this game, is it really that bad?

>>161632445
maneuvering went down a bit, but it has a relatively fast ab burner/cruise speed now that should help it actually function as an interceptor for a change

>>161653831
I genuinely feel bad for caterpillar owners, it was announced as pirate cargo ship capable of boarding other ships with those spikes, i fucking remember that pitch from 2013th, now its just a worse hull C

>>161654103

i suppose we'll have to wait and see what they do with the "modules". might turn out more retaliator-like than we imagine.

>>161654221
>>161654103
the only weapon-ish module that was clearly hinted at was a missile module...

Sure, let's put the most useless and expensive weapons while sacrificing cargo to make it decent.

Like, with current loadout you can't do anything beside shifting cargo in UEE guaranteed safe™ space.

>>161653478
I've got a load of tweaks in user.ini already, AC with low player count - 50fps, AC with high player count ... ... anywhere between 10 to 45fps.
Is it more due to shit netcode/cryengine or is my hardware struggling?

>>161654471

netcode. i can guarantee it.

wait for the new patch and pray to god they fixed that shit.

>>161654432
Source: Your ass

>>161654557
Alright, good, 2.0 AC was smooth as buttery the way I remember it.

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>>161654103
perhaps you should wait until we even know what is the actual size of the command module's hardpoints and the thing can be actually be piloted without a dozen bugs getting in the way before making these judgements?

>>161654913
It's gimballed S1, so S2, said yesterday's ovacado.

>>161655196
Caterpillar
>2x S1 gimbled on the "escape bridge" (Max S3)
>1x Gimbled S5 tractor on the tractor controller, acts as remote gun apparently but not crewed it (can't fly it) ( Max S6 fixed?)
>2 unmanned turrets with M5As mounted (Max size dual s4)

later correction:
>Meant to say the gimbled escape module/bridge guns are max S2, not max S3

>>161655196
Certainly sounds final :^)

>>161655196
>yesterday's ovacado.
the hard points on the command module are currently bugged so that we can't change it or even see what size it actually is. All we know is that it has gimabled m3a's on it. But it seems rather unlikely that the cutlass would have 4xS3's, the hearld 3x S3s', but then the cat would only have a couple of S2's for ship guns

>>161655483
> Feedback about <ship>
> Wait until final version before you say something, you fool!

The Caterpillar greybox a while back had a bunch of cool shit like the tractor, remote-access doors, cargo locks, bay doors with decompression etc

Is that all in the 2.6 cat?

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>>161653803
>Schedule-report
CIG... CIG never changes.

>>161656056
No for remote access and I think the tractor, so probably not the rest either

Wonder if we'll even have the breakaway cab

>>161649674
1) use emp then shut down all systems cus there is a delay
2) no shields don't have to recharge after u power down then power up

>someone successfully landed and launched a M50 from a catapillar cargo module.

Well that's one thing the ship has going for it.

>>161655683
Well yeah d00d alpha is to see what is broken not to discuss balance

>>161659484

Source?

>>161633984
you should be able to fly an idris alone, but it should cost you a shit ton of money for upkeep and npcs should never be better than a competent human

human ship > ai ship

>>161660608
If the Idris is being taken out with only one actual player on board it should probably cost so much it becomes a net loss really.
Otherwise everyone will be doing it and any smaller ship is just something to grind past.

>>161654913
God damnit, is that bar really right below the crosshair? They couldn't have put the bar level with the display screens? Roberts Strut Industry strikes again....

Reminder that if you write CIG with a lower case i or call Chris "croberts" no one will take you seriously.

>>161661423
>Write CiG all the time
>Don't ever do so consciously sometimes shift just slips

I don't use Croberts though, that's just silly.

>>161661423
>tfw I type CiG a lot for no real reason, just poor typing discipline
>tfw I have literally never visited SA and am in no way a goon or goon affiliated.
the "croberts" is a sold tell tho, I ve never seen anyone refer to him that way except goons raiding this thread.

>>161661423
Those posts, as pitched, will never be delivered.

>>161661559
>>161661623
Whenever you do that I dismiss whatever you said as the opinion of a fully-brainwashed Applefag that thinks every i in the world should be lower case. FYI.

>>161660905
flying an idris by itself, even manned by a all human crew, should be a net loss

>>161661756
>things that are not going to happen.png

>>161661756
What's mega map?

>>161662009
>Fully brainwashed apple fag

I own literally ZERO apple products.

>>161662102
The system that will allow players to switch game modes, loadouts and whatnot without having to go back to the main menu

>>161662174
Then stop typing like a fully brainwashed Applefag, problem solved

>>161662174
>>161662391

Both of you fuck off, jack off and calm down.

>>161662447
>Calm down
>Have literally not said anything which would imply any sort of anger

What's your problem?

>>161662391
>Literally explained that shift occasionally slips

I know what your problem is, autism.

>>161661416
It's annoying, but nowhere near constellation tier bullshit. I find the herald's cockpit to be much worse due how close/low your view is set to the instrument panel. It has the same claustrophobic feeling I get from the Merlin. Though I suppose some people might like that due to how much it feels like a wing commander cockpit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UPa52ETgTs

http://imgur.com/a/0slVA

https://vid.me/Iipt

http://i.imgur.com/Cx880Pm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cvLGolG.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkpmxNVL2Vw

^gay music

>>161662992
>Vidme

Goddamn. The smoothness, it looks so good just for this one reason.

>>161662674
Would changing the FOV help with the displays being too large?

If I were to listen to all the angry kids on 4chan I'd never buy a game, read a book, read a comic, watch a movie or do anything.
Because all you do is bitch and moan and put down everything, ever.
Perma-angry, spoiled, self-entitled children.

>>161663856
You in the wrong thread, champ?

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>>161663856
princess bride was pretty good

>>161663856
Yeah, it's like you can shit talk things without getting downvoted out of discussion.
Gross.

>>161663856
This general veers towards blanket CIG apologism to the point where I sometimes feel like I'm on RSI or Ribbit.

>>161641557
> headcanon and delusion
Well excuse me but I would like to see your sources to have the exact wording. If that's the same likely-to-change or left-to-be-decided mechanic we already have enough of those.
Plus the other mechanic that will influence it, like jump point having to be remapped, npc who also discover system themselves, mechanics of stealing and reselling of data, there's even a Q&A about reported system not instantly appearing on the starmap.

So I'm not wrong in pointing out that's only some players made it their own headcanon that it will "inevitably" be that exact mechanic (as if we had near infinite amount of stars for it to work like ED).
The same magic that allow every players to be some quest savior would allow that as a repeatable mechanics until CiG decide to declare the discovery canonical.

You want some real delusion ? We know that CiG isn't going to spam empty system with nothing to do in and they won't change the game universe every month, so new system will take a lot more time and will be much more limited that some people here make it out.
Sorry if I gave the impression of minimizing it but for some people it mean "CiG will finish the startîng area then produce at least 1 system per month for explorer and orgs to claim"
That's right, for some players "have an impact on the universe" mean "Org should be able to overthrow the UEE and declare war against the Banu".

Last,
Finding a system with a 315P that was only available to pledger would still not be fair. Nobody care the Endeavor will print science-money it's fair and doing that first bring no bonus.
But everybody will care if only whales get to discover & name system first. Since it goes against CR's aim for we are likely to see a little clarification or backpedaling that change everything. It's not like it's hard to change a reward system.

So go on, please give us yours source that assure it will be that mechanics and they aren't likely to change.

>>161662992
The bar looks like it's from the new deus ex. I bet those montreal fruits made it.

>>161656056
>>161656893
There's a tractor beam on that little wing.

>>161664247
No it doesn't CIG have just been doing some good stuff lately, for a long time in ages, so there hasn't been anything to negatively critique or derride for being abject shit- aside from the general long term dissapointment of waiting forever and poor showings at citcon.

>>161662992
>https://vid.me/Iipt
I really hope we will be able to turn the spacedust off.

I dont want zillions of little grey dots ruining my space vistas and screenshots.

>>161664256
Wow, this guy is triggered. Who the fuck let him out of RSI forums?

>>161664256
Learn English.

>I flew the smuggling lanes through the border worlds at war
>running guns from all the freeports near the core
>my fortune paid by all the souls of those who died
>my thirty coins of silver carried back with pride
>I never understood the gears and wheels that turn beyond
>I always thought I would survive
Is there a planes in space game that gives as good feels as freelancer?
Alternatively, what's the best mod for singleplayer?

>>161664971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1oF2C7iN_A
>FREE LANCER, How much hope did you Betray!

Ok, I'm going to guess this is common request to Evocati 4chanistas but, do you guys have Star Marine, if so could you doctor the footage and post it there?

Do you have names for any of your ships yet /scg/?

>>161665197
Names need emotional attachment first tbqh

>>161665127
stop it

>>161665280
Most ships have some sort of name associated with them before they sail, it's considered bad luck to sail an unnamed ship, since the lack of name kind of labels it as expendable or expected to be lost.

>>161662992
How did you manage to get out of Olisar? I keep dying when I try to exit through the airlocks

>>161665076
Unironically one of my favourite bands

>>161665523
Maybe if this was post release but not only have we simply bought our ships with real money but ship destruction is also meaningless for now.

>>161665197
I'm calling my Hull-C the Serenity, I'm going to use it's modular points to hunt down Javelins and tear them apart with suprise stealth attacks before they even know what shot them

>>161665671
not my vid. stolen from /r/starcitizen_leaks

>>161665671
not sure if b8 but there's a wardrobe in your room and at every airlock, put on your space suit

>>161665843
}><)))o> J

>>161665981
Problem is, my character model is missing so even if I try to put on my space suit the game ignores it and I die anyways.

I'm talking about 2.6 by the way

>>161665843
I am believing the wind, watch how I'm sore

>>161664247
The only thing that amazes me is the amount of anons here who have spent thousands of dollars on ships.

>>161663856
thats /v your talking about.
you can actually get some good opinions on /vg

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>>161667036
This shithole is sadly the best place on the internet to talk about the game. So people who are heavily bought in, who by extension almost certainly are very into it and wanna chatter, end up here.

>>161667435
>in over $1500
>no merchantman
pretty shit desu anon

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>>161667435
linked an out of currency autism banner. Gotta be factual and all.

>>161667578
I had one but swapped it and my cat for the Hull E, agaisnt all my jewish instincts, despite the fact that its sure to go up in value and be swappable for something better I just don't like the thing. And at the end end of the day if Im spending $250 on a jpeg it had better be a jpeg I like.

>>161667435
>Best place to talk

Yeah, sadly enough. Anywhere else and you get reported or censored with downvotes. We can get leaks here without insane faggots freaking out.

>>161667771
Banu will be flight ready before the Hull-E, melt the Hull-E and get the Banu, it'll go up a fuckton soon in CCU value

>>161667772
Its fucking comical how 4chins has gone from being a fringe board full of anime fappers and nerds to the literal last bastion of free speech on the internet. Like how the hell did it get this bad?

Used to be this is where you went to shitpost and meme and find weird porn, but now it's the most reliable place to find constructive discussion in multiple different categories simply because it doesn't have a mob accessible/groupthink way to silence people.

>>161668048
I never had a banu hull always a CCU on a another token, so I cant buy it back.

>>161668167
>Last bastion of free speech

Well, that is until you get an autistic janitor on a crusade against your thread topic.

>>161668570
and then he gets fired and you make your thread again, instead of you getting permabanned for complaining like every other site.

There's no way to prevent abuse of power if you have positions of power, what marks a good moderation system from a bad is whether it protects abusers or removes them.

>>161668167
>last bastion of free speech on the internet.
DELETE THIS !

>>161668167
>>161669127

">last bastion of free speech on the internet."

Mods can ban you or delete your posts whenever the fuck they want, wise up

>>161669208
uncensored where?

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Welp--any news on the next Elite cash cow?

>>161668570
Janitor's protect us from org wars and yiff. I for one welcome them as our overlords.

Do any 2.6 Flight balance testers know if Sabre shields have been nerfed in-line with normal fighters, or are they still rocking sub-capital ship shields?

>>161670209
fuck knows

MB is FUBAR and everything else is poverty tier

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>>161668167
>but now it's the most reliable place to find constructive discussion in multiple different categories

I have to agree with this.

>haven't thought about SC for years since I first kikestarted it
>popped over for the anniversary sale
>now cant stop thinking about it
>not going to be done for years
This game is pure fucking torture

>>161668715
>And then he gets fired

No, that's the opposite of what has happened. But I'm not going to continue this topic.

>>161671495
A very important part will be done with 3.0, which will go live next year. Everything after it (multiple systems) will be just icing on the cake imo

>>161662992
>space dust
I understand the why, I just dont agree with it

>>161671685
all i care about is being a dickass thief

so until piracy is properly in with cargo and players being real traders this game isnt complete for me

So the Cutlass main engines can do a full 360 rotation right?

So can it pull off a fantastic Cobra maneuver and basically come to a standstill instantly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-VNSJMiNt0

>>161672774
Literally all the ships can.

>>161672774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTqFyYg46-Y

>>161672874
I mean without rotating the ship, I mean obviously in a vacuum all ships can just toggle and spin while moving forward then use their main thruster to switch, but can the Cutlass do it while facing forward and better than other ships?

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>>161665076
Thanks for posting this, I like it a lot. Have some ancient concept art in return.

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>CIVIL UNREST in 17 draconis

>>161672380
Lucky you then, because cargo and piracy mechanics are planned for 3.0

>>161673171
>mission board superfucked
>system not spawning CZ

good luck with that shit

>>161673323
System wouldn't spawn a CZ during the initial exploit. Civil Unrest typically progresses into Civil War.

>>161673497
I know that, that's how the skimmer exploit started. seriously why do skimmer count as ship kills, not that I'm complaining

problem is, the mission board is literally FUBAR. Last time I checked, last week, it took me an hour and a half to get 5 missions there

>>161672774
Yes, that's how it works right now, but the cutlass is a large ship compared to some light fighters, and the strength of their retro thrusters and smaller size might mean it feels more sluggish in comparison. Check out AC footage of the cutlass in its current form, I don't think the rework mentions anything about the cutlass engines having any smaller a range of motion than we've come to know.

...But it could still change.

>>161673097
That's what we're saying. You don't need to move the ship in any direction to peform a space break, it's bound to a button for maximum reverse thrust to stop you in place.

>>161673820
wouldn't work laterally though.

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>>161673636
We probably broke it. Until it unfucks itself I'll be sticking to the lucrative but more "legitimate" method of CZs+Massacre. Set a filter to Empire factions and I get to grind out Empire rank while I'm at it without having to grind it out specifically.

>>161672774
Not instantly, not in 2.6 at least....

>>161674032
you don't get what I'm saying

the mission board is fucked up beyond all recovery, EVERYWHERE

It's a global issue, not a local BGS issue

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>>161673243
>Lucky you then, because cargo and piracy mechanics are planned for 3.0
This is great news

>>161673820
Well thats stupid as shit, the other ships shouldnt be able to stop as fast with those puny forward thrusters

>>161674137
Uh not in my experience m8. I was having issues at 17 Draconis towards the end of the Civil War but everywhere else is handing out missions just fine. I would know, I spend most of my time in Civil Wars. If you're having issues I'd just chalk it up to the mission database being fucked as usual.

>>161674137
Nah, I'm farming ceos/sothis and I can cap out on data transfer missions no problem.

>>161674137
>>161674338
While its very possible the database is bugging out for you I think the Mission Board got retooled to include more of the other mission types for Civil Wars like data scans, skimmer destruction, and data transfers.

>>161674170
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report

updated today

>>161674310
Have you even READ The Little Engine That Could?

>>161674638
It definitely seems like Horizon mission types are alot more common now.
I wonder if thats the case for people who don't have Horizons

>>161675549
Oh that'd be a low blow.

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QT
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Is the news letter released yet?

>>161675108
>3.3 – Farming & Rescue
>Rescue – Rescue NPCs from a variety of dangers (powerless stations, damaged ships in decaying orbits, evacuate personnel, etc.)

Oh boy this will end well when /scg/ makes a corp whose whole objective is stopping black people boarding rescue ships