/scg/edg star citizen elite dangerous space general #100: REEEEEE

>>161764149
no extra embeds....

RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

redditfags have to go back, apologetics and dev-can-do-no-wrong gets you where Elite is now

>>161764338
This. Fuck CIG at every turn.

>>161764338
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>161764149
>No option to turn the Caterpillar into a giant fuckall railgun

>>161764505
That would upset the Cultists and Dad-gamers. Remember, we can't have any sort of fun in the game.

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>>161764505
>cant turn Cat into a broadsiding monster
Although it is modular, I mean they could do it

>2 guns per module
>have to be manually loaded from inside
>ejecting, loading, firing shells
>cat v cat broadside fight
>having your crew die around you as you desperately try to reload over and over

>>161764505
>Remember when retailator owners thought they were getting a railgun module that would totallyjustify their ship when it actually turned out a non english speaking dev had just mis-translated "gun mount"

>>161764731
Why the fuck would you intentionally design your guns so that they have to fire from your largest and most vurnerable angle.

Sailing ships only did it because of space and design limitations.

>>161764505
You'd need a bigger ship attached to it to even power such a thing. At which point you're just some capship's gun.

>>161764731
you would only use the left side since the cockpit sits on the right and no one would want it facing any form of fire anyways.

The hole idea is stupid despite being fun.

Anybody know a good Hotas brand to buy?

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>>161765017
>'Member when Caterpillar owners saw "undergunned pirate salvage vessel that needs an escort and isn't a bulldog" and read "specialized ship destroying broadsider that is fine in combat"

>>161765317
depends on how much your willing to spend

be ready for 150+ for anything worth while

>>161765430
Was thinking of the 130 dollar for the Thrustmaster t.1600m Hotas on newegg.

>>161765360
If it was up to the Star Citizen community every ship would have zero fucking cargo space, ten layers of shields, be covered in guns and have a bubble cockpit 30 yards away from the actual ship for maximum visibility.

>>161764338
>apologetics and dev-can-do-no-wrong gets you where Elite is now
Braben is how you get Elite. But we have Chris anon, and he shall deliver us from evil, say it with me now

Our Father in RSI,
Chris be your name
your game come
your will be done
on SQ42 as it is in PU
give us this day, our daily jpeg,
and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgive our
reckless spending
and lead us into temptation
but deliver us from forumdads
forever and ever

amen

>>161765641
I don't even know whos baiting whom anymore.

>>161766248
All you need to know is SC will be 'done' in 202? and we are too far in the deep end to get out now

>>161765517
How do you explain to your housemates when you get your big "thrustmaster" package in the mail though? Keep in mind that when you take it out to show it to them and prove it isn't a sex machine, none of them have seen a joystick, part of it looks like a cyberpunk dragon dildo and the other part looks like the next generation of sybian.

>>161765317
Thrustmaster's new hotas is quite nice.

>>161765317
please remove half your flight keybinds from the game for the sake of immersion

-sincerely, the m/kb user pirate community

>>161765641
No, we would expect a sizable cargo hold as well. Basically a constellation Andromeda that had a canopy designed by someone besides a half blind retard

>>161765641
If it was up to the community every ship would most likely be superiority fighters with outrageous black hole cargo space.

>>161766956
what 3rd world soviet era slum do you live in where you share living space?

>>161767221
Bitch please, half my hats are still unbound because I'm waiting for them to add enough functions to actually fill them. Seriously though, when is the missile selection feature coming?

-CH Products hotas user

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>not using leak images in the OP

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>>161768145
Can you set it up to have a fuck ton of fighter bays

>>161769292
no

>>161769416
Can you physically jam some piloted Merlins in and then, with significant effort and probably extra help, force them out during flight anyway?

>>161768145
you can stuff it with dragonflies and supposedly fit a few m50s

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>>161769583
only one way to find out m8
i'll see you on crusader when 2.6 launches

>>161770009
>slow-crash an avenger into a bay
>close both doors and hope for the best

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>>161769416
That's mad gay.
I only play high skill: deadly at the moment, but was thinking about maybe shekeling up for SC recently.

>>161768145
I'm so happy were getting more big ships.

>>161769583
Well if the structural damage model of Star Citizen is as good as they hope it'll be, getting a merlin through a space too small shouldn't explode the ship but instead just take off a wing.

So this master plan will require a repair ship or really fucking good pilots capable of flying at handicap.

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y no herald leaks? ;_;

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So i have this big module idea..

>>161766956
I ordered some star wars ship models and some extra thin tamiya glue for them once and the cheeky fuck labled the two packages "figures" and "body cream".

>>161771216
That's the vandaluur mod. To be flown together with a swarm of scythes.

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How would you fix it /scg/?

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>>161771000
Because they took a neat little goofy niche ship and turned it into a big fat lumpy uninteresting ship.

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Will SC eventually have any homages to 70's Sci Fi?

>>161763393
>>161763578
If you go Hotas, make sure your throttle has an analog stick on it. I think dual stick or hojam would be better.

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>>161774827
What is hojam?

>>161774964
hands on junk and mouse
the only way to fly really

>>161774964
Left hand joystick, right hand mouse.

You can either set it up so that the joystick replaces keyboard directly and have analog strafe thrusters, with roll on the twist, allowing more fine grained maneuvering, or leave the left stick as yaw pitch roll, using a slider for main thruster and hat for strafing. This lets you fly the ship totally decoupled from your gimbal/turret gun aim.

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>>161774238
I like that asymmetry.

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dead thread

>>161777049
too bad faggot, they changed it

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>>161777310
That's okay.

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Space and stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-txg9TmZYj8

how are people playing 2.6 offline?

>>161778723
Mo' space. Also Cryo Chamber is what happens when someone listens to Sleep Chamber and doesn't know latin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_JAvVjKeWI

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>>161779357
>not waiting for 2.6 to go live so it's bug free and populated.

>>161779510
>bug free
>Star Citizen
I don't think that will ever be an achievable goal after any amount of money and any amount of time.

>>161779510
got nothing else to do tonight lad

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>>161779425
I wonder if we get one of these stars that are casually 800 times bigger than ours in SC

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>>161779705
fuck muh dick

>>161779705
The only thing I want in SC is scale portrayed properly. Stars in ED are lackluster because of our perspective and how we view the scale of objects, that and the distance you're allowed to be to them

>>161781139
>The only thing I want in SC is scale portrayed properly.

We know for a fact it isn't going to be real scale and never was going to be

>>161781319
No, you don't understand. I want large objects and bodies to look large to me. If I warp in next to a star, I want that star to wow me with its sheer magnitude. If I get near a capital ship, I want it to seem like a colossal vehicle compared to me.

>>161768145
>See a catepiller with its bays open with a bunch of smaller ships around it in the distance
>Decide that I'm going to fly through one of the bays at full burn
>Aim and rocket in
>Suddenly realize I'm in an Avenger and not my mini fighter
>At least 3 other ships were destroyed in the blast

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826280080&cm_re=hotas-_-26-280-080-_-Product this is what I was planning on getting, yay or nay?

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>>161781406

You get a better sense of scale in ED with VR but even then it's subtle with something as large as a star.

The one change they could make to huge stars, without letting you get unsurvivably close to them, would be to model them more accurately. Our current understanding is that giant stars have very uneven surfaces due to factors like the distance of the outer layers from center of mass. They are not smooth spheres like our sun. Direct imaging of Betelgeuse in particular by Hubble revealed that it has a doughy appearance.

If you were to jump to such a thing the surface features would make its size pretty clear even though you're 6000ls out.

>>161783197
I hate how SE did this years before ED even came out and yet they couldn't manage it.

>>161782349
Space is for dual stick silly

>>161784751
I've decided to get it, watched a review on it and the guy said that the throttle has a controller analog joystick thingy that was similar to having a second joystick.

>>161783197
what is the time period on this gif? an hour?

>>161784967
Up to you, I'd rather use a mouse than either anyways

>>161786569

More like a year. There is no way currents can shift across a surface that immense in a matter of hours.

>>161786780
use two mice

>>161764731
I assume you're saying that because you know there are broadside modules and you can affix all slots to it.

>>161774238
ABLOOBLOO

>>161771000
literally videos or images covering every square inch of it

hope you didnt expect any of it's ewar features or l33t hacker stuff to be in 2.6 lol. it's a very fast armored aurora til at least whenever the major exploration mechanics come in

>>161784751
youre saying that like its a fact.
why do so many cockpit models in the game have a hotas

>>161783412
>I hate how SE did this years before ED even came out and yet they couldn't manage it.
Can't manage things that you don't even try.

whens the next update? i thought it was either around now or the 8th?

i cant seem to find anything on it

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>>161792791

>>161792934
thanks

>>161773918
Make the floors solid.

>>161773918
has anyone actually taken this thing into crusader with a full crew and proved it's too weak? maybe it's just weak in that full crew are required for anything close to full effectiveness. might be a good way to balance the capital cracker.

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I just saw the flight model changes and boost/afterburn refactor. What does /scg/ think?

When I heard that they were going to slow shit down again I instinctively thought they were going to fuck it up worse than it was, but after showing some of the stuff off I think I really like it. It changes the dynamics of maneuverability dramatically.

Afterburn ignites your main engines so you can make it to cruse speeds and only affects your main engines. This finally gives them a more solid purpose thanks to how powerful most maneuvering thrusters were. It feels better than the arbitrary SCM/Cruise toggle and puts cruise speeds under an energy/fuel limitation if you do it too often. Racing will now actually be interesting. It opens the door for speedy ship niches where building a ship around using afterburn often may be advantageous in some situations where a more weapon or armor oriented ship would struggle.

Boosting only increasing maneuvering thruster output also ties into all of the Afterburn stuff and adds another layer of maneuvering depth to the game.

>>161797678
I admit I was a bit worried it'd just turn me into an easy(ier) target, but after seeing the atv footage it may not be too bad.

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>>161796245
One man in a gladiator can deliver 8 S5 torpedoes.
Seven men in a Tally can deliver 6 s9 torpedoes.

For its size it does not comparatively offer much of an increase in punching power, while being a much larger much slower target than its alternatives. It's use of internal space is abysmal, literally more than 50% of the internals are functionless corridors.

Thats not even the primary issue though, the primary issue is the combination of realtively weak turrets compared to what they are supposed to defend against and abysmal turret placement preventing more than a a couple of the turrets from reliably focusing fire on a given target, Its a fairly small ship with 5 turret gunners, but the turret are place so poorly that most of them cannot focus fire at all, most of them have extremely limited fire arcs and perhaps worst of all its least defended arc is directly behind, the area it is most likely to be attacked from.

I do not expect CIG to rework the base hull, at all frankly, but I don't want to just accept that its going to be second rate in terms of efficient use of the hull, so I'm fishing for ideas. Also I want to keep beating the drum of it being a sub par ship right now in hopes that it staying on radar of both players and devs keeps it in mind as a ship that needs some love. It ios one of SCs most iconic ships and it should be a viable choice for both its intended bombing role and also its advertised civilian refit role.

>>161795576
Also this for fucks sake. the cramped spaces and glitchy everything mean you bug through the model literally every time you fly it and every tally play session ends with me being ejected into space and having to suicide.

live

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>>161800251
The Tally turrets loadout is actually quite good. You can have between 2 and 3 turrets facing any direction at any time, including the rear just by modifying a little the firearc.
All their weapons are on par with what the fighters hardpoint are being rebalanced to be, at worst you make the front turret gain a size so they double as (pilot-linked) front firing guns to match Connie (assuming you don't blow up connie with torpedo already)

There is no need to cry because it's not an dedicated anti-fighter gunship. It will be fast and stealthy and they'll probably be forced to redesign it anyway because they now have a definite size of missiles and the Talli can only carry so much.

But I agree entirely with the rest of the criticism, the space wasted, the pointless corridors, the lack of internal bay for small missile and I'll add "too many landing gear".

>>161777115
Saved. Every time an Anon uploads some sexy scifi I keep it for future thread.

Do the changes make it less or more impossible for an Aurora LN to barely participate in a fight?

>>161803936
In my Aurora, I flew near some pirates at a comms relay, and they blew apart my engines before I could even land a shot. Auroras are space Reliant Robins.

>>161806114
>Aurora, I flew near some pirates at a comms relay, and they blew apart my engines before I could even land a shot
Well, i got any pirats on my LX, aurora not bad at all even in pvp.

>>161806114
I think you were the problem, not the Aurora. Those NPC pirates shouldn't be a problem in any ship.

Where's the cat pictures and footage coming from? Is it evocati leaks or is ptu out?

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someone please post sandi + roberts expressive hand getures webm, I need a laugh

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>>161810259
>that face
it gets me everytime

>>161810247
Evo content is publicly available to download because the patch team is incompetent

>>161800251
>A retaliator needs a full crew complement to be effective

loving this meme!

It is a great meme, I give it 7/8 meme points

>>161807942
im not sure how you managed to fuck up
i couldnt get 2.6 to work properly but i was able to try out the survival mode with a mustang alpha
i did pretty well but the shitty guns it has made anything take forever to kill. wasnt damaged too badly after a few waves
you just gotta learn to handle the boost button a little so you can avoid absorbing all the damage
by the 4th round my right engine was scratched up but still did alright

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>>161768145
That just makes me want to fit a buttload of tripod mounted guns into the cargobay, fly right next to someone, open all doors and have the redshirts go to town.

>>161812174
They did something to the vanduul damage absorption or hit detection or something in VS in 2.6 which makes it very difficult to kill them. I tried a Mustang Alpha like you, as well as a Gladius, and it took me significantly longer than it ever has before to put even one of the bastards down. I couldn't even get the wings to blow off after pumping them full of ballistics, so I suspect some kind of bug where fully damaged components stay stuck to the ship and block incoming shots, yet generate a hitmarker. May also be network/server related since the AI seemed to have no problem stealing my kills.

I might try it later with a bigger ship like the Gladiator or Constellation, which you can apparently fly in VS now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfGxdnWscQ4

>>161797678
I like it a lot

>>161812916
Are we actually going to have moveable turret guns?

>Flying around in your cutlass providing firing from the three cargo doors, forward guns and turret

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Senpai when is the next buyback token? Imma get my UEE Exploration pack.

>>161812916
>>161815551
no go back to planetside 2

>>161815368
The proportions look fucked

All that space dedicated to the back half and so little to the modules, I hope to god they have some really special plans in mind for modules or else its just a gimped trading ship.

>>161815368
watching this guy attempt to press buttons is painful

So question, we know that Endeavor will not make it to release/beta etc...at that time there will be placeholder or loaner ships system active still?

Will Endeavor people get a loaner Carrack? What happens when they lose it? Since economy will start to kick in etc..?

So, when is the cutlass rework coming into PU?

>>161816061
3.0, maybe 3.1

>A single Cutlass can ravage a mid-sized transport and a pack operating as a clan can easily take down larger prey. STOL adaptations allow these interceptors to operate off of modified transports or pocket destroyers; the most common warships that make up pirate caravans.
>modified transports
>STOL
So the Cat is going to get a flight deck

>>161815368
>the door between the living area and the open-to-space cargo hold opens automatically by proximity
Drake quality. or maybe they shouldn't be reusing misc assets where they make no sense.

>>161816157
>A single Cutlass can ravage a mid-sized transport
all this info is outdated.

>>161816093
dammit

i knew i should have just gotten a gladiator

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>>161810259
>tfw dislike 2/3 people in this webm

dont ever post it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la_TGGLjhR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Bq51HW6QA

>>161816765

There's nothing new in that Area 18 video apart from the huge amount of missing textures.

What's a good eagle loadout for BHing?
No projectiles, I'm in hima and the one good station has no reloading service.

So, npc in sc when?

>>161820274
There's a vendor already.

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>drake is now the new hotness

Sugoi

>>161820391
And other nps when?

>There will never be more space shuttle Avenger designs so it stops being the black sheep

>>161820798
>Shitdeemer isn't the "black sheep"

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Is this thing bugged? The Vanguard in drone sim i can fire the main gun without it constantly staying on, but when I join AC and fire the main gun it stays on.

>>161820895
What other aegis ship looks like the space shuttle?

>>161810259
>>161816408

Yeah I definitely wouldn't miss it.

But I can't ever forget it ;_;

>>161821145
Aegis ships all look spaceplane-y / aerodynamic

>>161821327
Not that anon, but the Avenger sticks out like a sore thumb and always has by looking like a fighter variant of 20th century space shuttles.

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>>161821327
>>161821718

Indeed, and the yiffers have a hard-on for those ships, so there's that too.

>>161821145
>>161821327
>>161821718
>>161821779
>mfw I just came back to the game and I have an aegis avenger

>>161821954
I have an avenger. I'm just not going to pretend it's not a black sheep among aegis design.

>>161822063
Any chances it's getting reworked anytime soon-ish?

>>161821718
>>161822063
Wings
Aerodynamic design
Fighter-style cockpit
Looks like a spaceplane

Meanwhile the Redeemer (none of the above) doesn't at all stick out, no

>>161822182
Stop strawmanning the redeemer, nobody gives a shit about your hateboner for it.

>>161822168
Not that I'm aware of. The 300 series is before it, and the Auroras are as well from what I know.

>>161822182
Yeah everyone hates that ship too, but we are talking about the Avenger, which has not fit in for a lot longer

>>161822342
>Stop strawmanning the redeemer, nobody gives a shit about your hateboner for it.

Its an aegis ship.

You're talking about aegis ships and how of the aegis ships, the avenger sticks out.

:)

>>161822452
>It's an aegis ship

No, it's a fan design. It's not an aegis ship. So fuck off now, child because nobody gives a shit about your continued strawman.

>>161822517
>It's not an aegis ship.

Yes it is.

Its the Aegis redeemer.

One of the content areas was being judged on how it stuck to the company design.

:)

>>161811525
For every turret you leave unmanned you are carrying a bunch of pointless mass and leaving a fire arc vulnerable.

You might be able to launch your torps solo, but you are barely able to defend yourself when fully manned and each turre you leave unmanned makes you less able.

The tallys entire defensive armament consists of 10xS2, realistically you can get a max of 6xs2 on any given target. That's less firepower that a hornet with its turret on a target 4 times the size. And realistically you only going to be getting 1-2 turrets on target most of the time. Even a single unmanned turret is going to reduce that to 1 reliable turret or less, due to turret layouts making it so that every turrets field of fire is limited and few of them overlapping for more than a few degrees.

I am not and have never been advocating for a massive increase in firepower and am certainly not in favor of giving the tally s3 guns. The only boost I would consider giving to its turrets is making them quad s2 turrets instead of dual. Since that would maintain the gun type restrictions while giving the turrets more bite.

>>161803206
The tally turret loadout could potentially be good, if they had overlapping expansive fields of fire, but they dont and won't be getting it. YOu cannot have 2 or three turrets in any direction at any time, you can have 2 turrets facing in most directions, 1 turret facing in some directions, combine that with the relative difficulty in aiming turrets, erratic and evasive flight path the bomber is going to have to run to not just die and the fairly weak per turret power and your end result will be a bomber that does not have enough turret guns to deter direct attack from even a single well shielded fighter.

Again I do not advocate S3 turret guns, thats too much of a buff and would look absurd as well. I advocate perhaps 4xS2 on the turrets giving each turret less sustained fire through heat and power draw, but more burst fire.

>>161781406

Something bugs me about the perceived size of ships or buildings in SC is right now.
Ships l look smaller from first person view than they do on pics comparing a ship to a human.

Wonder if it's a field-of-view thing.

>>161822636
What I do advocate is giving the ship owner the ability to fit other defensive systems into those turret slots to both cut crew requirement and give the ship some non-gun defensive options. Ive always said its primary defesne should be speed and evasion, it should be able to outrun most fighters eventually.

If you're using torpedos on a constellation you're a moron. And I have never said it should be an anti fighter gunship ive said its turrets are not up to the task of defending the ship from fighters, there is a difference there.

>>161822743
>Then on pics

I would need to see an example if you can provide it. I watched a starfarer trying to park one time and the scale (to me) was great as it kept getting closer and closer

>>161822636
Or you could realize that the turrets are a token / supporting defense for a reason.

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do you guys feel that the turrets will be a useless meme in the release? most people will stick npcs or replace them with other shit like antennas etc?

>fuck u dude i aint gonna man that borin ass turret

>>161823128
Turrets won't be useless, but you won't have people sitting in them for an entire play session.

>>161823203
This.

>>161823128
If they don't rework the current way that turrets work and/or remove turrets from anything that shouldn't have it, yes I do.

>>161823128
>>161823268
Keep in mind that we are still heavily biased towards tiny fighters in how we see the game. In the full game larger ships will be more of a threat, and turrets will be better at keeping those at bay. Really thats all turrets are realistically; a deterrent

>>161823203
>shit man dem turrets are on the other end of ship, our shields cant hold till I get to it

They are memes, will be used by npcs only. It takes too much time to go and enter one, and start shooting mediocre hurt.

>>161820601
You mean like crew NPCs? Much much later. They aren't even on the schedule up to 4.0 yet.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report
There are some references to buying from NPCs, and rescuing them, but that's it.

>>161820962
Yes that's a bug, check the issue council.

Also since we are arguing about the design language of Aegis ships I really don't think the Idris or Reclaimer fit in. Idris looks RSI and the Reclaimer kinda looks half RSI half Anvil. I mean I get they're bigger bulkier ships, but the Polaris ended up looking more Aegis than either of them.

>>161823454
Big targets will have bigger volleys if your ships is not small. So again, you might not even make it to the turret cockpit.

or CIG will buff the shit out of hitpoints for ships and shields, where battles will take longer.

>>161823454
That's why I mentioned "remove them from anything that shouldn't have them"

>>161822990
The ship was sold as a long range bomber able to operate on its own. Mandatory escort is both fan fiction and a terrible idea for balance. Take the 7 crew medium ship and making it require fighters and even more crew to potentially do its job is ridiculous. Fighter escort to do its job in relative safety is reasonable, fighter escort to do its job at all is not.

Furthermore it was also sold as a surplus hull for civilian refit into non bombing roles, for that to be true it needs to be able to fly in dangerous space without babysitting. For that to be viable the turrets need to be more than a token.

>>161823728
>The ship was sold as a long range bomber able to operate on its own.

No it wasn't.

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>>161822168

It really needs it, the Avenger's design is pants-on-head retarded. I mean, we have some doozies in SC, but the Avenger takes the cake.

>>161823973
... I like the Avenger.

BUYBACK TOKEN WHEN?

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Should I buy Star Citizen now or wait until it releases?

>>161792791
Literallya weekly updated official schedule on the website

Link needs to be in future OPs desu senpai

>>161824245
I like it too, but it looks too out of place

>>161800251
> it's a "trust me I know how torpedos function - my dad works at CIG" episode

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>>161824660
If you have to ask, wait.

>>161824789
That's the point though isn't it, the Avenger is a relatively early design that proved sturdy sop its still around. It's that ship that was designed in the 1970s but was built well enough that were still using it in 2016.

Serious question

Does scg have/ produce any memes??

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>>161824789
>>161824245
I'd like it more if it wasn't bent in half.

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>>161825116

Not really, all the fun ones were ding dong banu

/scg/ groups got butthurt

>>161825559
I don't understand this.

Do people not realize Chris was rich long before SC was even a thing?

>>161825846
Most of the people don't realize that this isn't Chris's first attempt at a game nor do they realize he produced, directed and wrote an actual movie.

>>161826035
Don't forget the saturday morning cartoon series too.

>>161826035
Lord of War was actually pretty good, not a fan of Punisher tho..

>>161825846
Sure he was. But ever since the kickstarter, his pre-existing house and cars, his infrequent vacations, meals, groceries, everything has been paid for with backer money. Same with the offices, office furniture, break room appliances. It's outrageous

>>161825846
It personally amuses me how they're all like "how dare he take vacation days with his little child! People whose company I've paid money to for work should either be working or dead at all times."
Even if he wasn't rich from previous ventures, there's a reason employers are required to give their employees, including themselves, days off, and what they do with that time off is their own business.

>>161823475
If you let someone get right on top of you like that you deserve to get gibbed. However if you actually use common sense and your scanner the guner should be able to walk casually to his post before the enemy is within a couple kilometers.

>>161797678
It's a really neat concept and the video of them putting the different thrust modes through its paces really sold me on it. Adding that extra dimension on expands what you can do as both a fighter and a racer significantly.

Remember kids, some of us were actually alive when Crusader No Remorese and Wing Commander were released.

>>161827227
hopefully you'll still be alive when SC releases too

>>161827227
>tfw old
>will transform into forum dad next 10 years

>>161827435
A man can dream.
>>161827517
I will never be a forum dad, pvp competitive to the bone m8.

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Is he running with our money

>>161827953

Two weeks.

90 days tops

>>161827517
Oh it doesn't matter how old we get, we'll never be like the babyboomers. They're a special breed of privileged. They want things how they were, how they think they remember and nothing too difficult.

The GenX'ers and Millennials just want good gameplay.

Why would they even make the Herald flight ready if there is no use for it right now. They should've made more combat ships to be ready instead.

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>>161827953

>>161828063
I think they mentioned that it appears in S42 at some point, but I'm not sure.

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>>161826268
>be CR's daughter
>dad regularly pisses off to another country for months at a time
>when he's in-country he stays at work till 3 AM
>some nerds in their mom's basements somewhere hate him for going with me for a vacation once a year

>>161828531
his kids should be forced to work too, it's MY MONEY after all, how dare they waste it like this! I want all of them working on it!

>>161828531

By the time the game is finished, she'll be old enough to do mocap and make a cameo

>>161829656
yeah, she'll be like 12 or 13

perfect

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>>161828531
>be rich as fuck female
>neckbeards think I have a hard life

>>161831579
>>/a/
>>/r9k/

>>161832271
Money doesn't replace a dad
not that you'd know considering you have neither

>>161832384
Of course it doesn't replace a dad you dumb fuck but she's still set for life.

>>161773918

Ctrl+A, Delete

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>>161777049

>>161832812
Being set for life sure is great when you're plagued by mental issues
Besides Chris Roberts doesn't seem the type to just let his kids loose with a trust fund

>>161833943
Yeah, thats how you end up with Derek Smart.

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>>161822636
The Tali turret do have overlapping expansive field of fire, and I'm starting to think you are just trolling. But I'll give you that it make sense if you assume that a turret with no crew is basically offline. While it's a good worse-case to work with, there's other possibility. Between "basic auto-tracking" (while crew repair) or several turrets being linked to a manned one.
(see dev comment on AI tracking)
http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Retaliator_Bomber
Having 2 turrets capable of tracking a single target is already a luxury, and the Tali can have 3 in many situation.

Same goes for the assumption that turret will stay hard to aim, it would take one perfectly "realist" change of point of reference (auto-tracking galactic plane) and you'd give turret a cheaty precision that no fighters can hope for (rather than missing 50% of the time when you aren't maneuvering, you would be hitting 90% of the time with no need to maneuver).

Lastly : THAT'S IF THERE'S NO REDESIGN. Remember that the Constellation was remade entirely despite being a medium ship.

Frankly at this point I wonder why we even bother making prognostic. Maybe when the game is out we will be begging to nerf it.
So discussing its waste of space and lack of small missile rack (for the principle of the thing) would be much more constructive. For example I don't remember a radar/ECM-console and I would say that's needed for anything relying on stealth (even an "old ship")

>>161773918
fix the simple bugginess of it and maybe overhaul the textures later when it's worth their time to do that

or did you mean functionally? because we can't actually use it for it's function yet in any way

>>161836053
I mean it makes short work of Starfarers, which is close...

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Dead thread dead game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTwYGtRkm0

>>161839947
>ladders are stil a <USE> item

When will they stop this shit.
We've had perfectly climbable ladders in video games for DECADES.

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Environmental and atmospheric effects in ED when? I want to land on some jungle moon and listen to the rainfall hit my cockpit or echo on the hull and wildlife gently hoot and holler in the distance.

>>161840112
The interior ladders on the Starfarer for example don't have the 'use' prompt.

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>>161833413
Better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8XX7C84aVk

What is the best space ship in SC?

You can qualify it however you want

>>161840174
Well the environmental effects expansion is $60, then you need the atmosphere penetration expansion for $60, then get the planetary expansion parts 1 for the body and 2 for the planetary assets for $120.

>>161840112
And in those games do the ladders exist as fixed objects on mobile structures that can move in 3D space?

>>161840706
Part of me wonders why on earth they bothered to make that ship ahead of anything else.
Its a good shuttle I guess.

>>161841074
LTI tokens print money and it'll inform 300 series rework and I think there's a 60 series coming also.

Easier to do a trial run with a smaller ship.

>>161840892
Avenger, it's basically an A-10 warthog in space.

>>161841061
Mandrills not included..

>>161841074
Production chains

The people who work on interiors for the big ships that take a long time to make are not the same who do stuff like textures, so they have to keep art design/texture guys busy doing something

Which is exactly what they said in the introduction video, it uses all new 'parts and textures' not used by anything else.

Basically this is where all our money is going, pointless busywork. This ship literally has no reason to exist and is never going to get used outside of one faggot with buyers remorse.

>>161841212
that turret on the bottom is retarded

>>161841212
>A-10 warthog

Meme plane

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>>161840892
Avenger Titan - Best Value
Constellation Taurus - Best Solo Freighter
315P - Best Starter Ship Experience
Hornet F7C - Best Introduction to Dogfighting
Cutlass Black(New) - Best Multirole
Freelancer - Best NEET Camper.
Hull E - Best Dragon Dildo

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>>161841657
I'm sorry I an't hear you over the sound of how BRRRRRRRRT I am.

>>161841861
You forgot Gladiator best torp boat

>>161841074
Becasue its really fucking simple and quick to make and they needed to develop the new style for Origin before they rebuild the 300s, start work on the 890 and concept to 600.

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>>161842001
No.

>>161842001
I left a lot of "Expensive for type" best ships out.
Part of best is being affordable

In case its unclear the Hull E part was meant in jest. But you know when it comes to dragon dildos bigger IS better.

>>161842235
>bigger IS better.
This reminds me of a joke; there are 3 women in a bar talking about how loose their vaginas are

One woman says 'I can fit a whole cucumber!'

The second says 'I can fit a whole beer bottle!'

The last one looks at them and then slides down the bar stool

This has been your joke of the day

Do you play Elite Dangerous with kb&m, controller or joystick/hotas?

I have played with controller and hotas and while the hotas feels much better i kinda like the controller more for combat.

>>161842538
KBM

my only issue is finding a good way to control my throttle. Mousewheel is great but for some reason doesn't work in FAOFF

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HERALD CONFIRMED FOR 3X S3 HARDPOINTS

HAHAHAHAHAH GLADIUS PILOTS GET FUCKED

>>161842538
>Do you play Elite Dangerous
No

Why the fuck would you want to do that

>>161842697
Yeah but it turns like the poop

Since when have Gladius pilots not been fucked

>>161842675
>Control throttle

W+S

>>161835009
was derek smart a fundy kid?

damn. he's fallen low.

It's a sports car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8XX7C84aVk&feature=youtu.be

>>161843676
>>161840706

>>161843890
Whoops, missed that post.

>>161842538
Controller and K+BM for specific things that can't fit on the controller like FSD, landing gear, cargo scoop, etc.

>>161840112
On the bright side, at least they're interaction system/Item 2.0 <USE> items!

>>161843890
What the fuck is with that landing gear?

>>161844414
bug. you should be asking what the fuck is with the turret.

>>161844659
well yea that too, doesnt look like it can fire forward.

>>161843279
>Fallen Low
>Didn't start there.
Rich trust fund kids who've had the world handed to them by their parents are literally the scum of the earth. They're all completely self centered, egotistical snowflake shitheads who feel that anything they think is correct and ultimate truth simply because they thought it.

Trusties have always been the sort of scum that most millenials have become in recent years.

>>161845120
Yup.
>ship with huge centre console so you cant pitch down and see where you're going
>half the firepower can't aim up.

>>161841861
>Freelancer - Best NEET Camper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTwYGtRkm0

>>161845865
>>161839947

https://i.imgur.com/AvbsZJO.jpg

So what's the deal with star citizen? Is it still give me all your money here's one ship you can do isolated instances with?

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>>161846315
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/feature-list
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report

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>>161846315

>>161847417
probably not happening any more due to logitech eating madcatz

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>>161847417
>using a stick for SC

>>161847605
It was never gonna happen. Peripheral manufacturers do mock-ups like that all the time to help devs to drum up sales.
https://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/razer-unveils-artemis-prototype-controller-for-mechwarrior-onlin/

>>161848220
>EDads right now

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>>161848220
As always, your bait pales in comparison to the real thing

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>>161847417
>Using keyboard and mouse or joystick in a space sim.

Step up Scam Citizen!

>>161841392
> a small and handy biplace shuttle in a game with many multicrew ship
> never going to be used
Bait are amusing sometime

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>>161848368
>kills:soon

>>161764149
>fund game in 2011-2012
>joke about it never coming out until 2015 with roomies
>almost 2017
>laughing about it not coming out until 2020
Why are there tears mixed in with the laughter. Why did Star Citizen break me so.

>>161848910

Witnessed!

>>161842697
Literally on par to outgunning the crappypillar right now

>>161849732
I'll suck my own cock if the Caterpillar has s1 guns

>>161849306
The funny part is that picture is years older than that movie. It's from when grills were popular.

>>161849837
It's retaliator tier except with no missiles and three less turrets

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>>161849837
It has 2 double s4 manned turrets and two guns on the command module which I think are max s3, but they hold a pair of shitty gimballed m4as or something stock.

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>>161850107
Take that back now my bf has it

So now I want to make a roleplay faith based corp based off of Immortan Joe. Have dozens of PCs using alts as roleplaying warboys in Auroras and Dragonflies. Just like a joke group that gets together on the weekends to fuck with cargo transport dads.

>>161850430
turrets visible here
>>161768145
>>161815368

>>161850506
You'll have to take a ticket and a seat

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfGxdnWscQ4

1st for Caterpillar being a rushed buggy mess for 2.6 that clearly was not ready, and does not belong in the game until 3.0 anyway

>>161845865
Where are you gonna store your collection of figures and manga in there? where are you going to paint you're waifu?

>>161851204
Isn't this guy playing the offline version of 2.6? Isn't there a metric shit load of features missing with the offline version?

>>161851204
>The alpha is an alpha.
SHOCK AND DISAPPOINTMENT.

It's good enough to be stuck into an alpha so they stuck it in. As I've said hundreds of times at this point, If you cannot handle broken shit then please fuck off until general release, I can handle broken, buggy shit and I want to do exactly that, and your whining interferes with that. The internals and evolutionary process and and fiddling around with half done content is what makes SC dev so interesting.

>>161851204
That's why it's in the Evocati build. It's clearly not finished, but good enough for people to do some basic testing.

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>2.6 flight changes completely break the Reliant's transformation set up.
>This inadvertently makes the ship handle, land, and fly better than it ever has and allows pilot to freely enter/exit seat at any time.

Skip the xi'an bullshit and just make it a delta wing ship, CIG. Clearly that's been the fix it needed this whole time.

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>>161841997

>>161851323
features are missing, but clipping into and out of the ship, literally impassasable hallways blocked by ladders and too small to fit the character that are steps backwards from what theyve been reworking ships to fix?

theres major design issues involved that somehow made it past the devs months ago when they were playing (clearly they werent walking around in the caterpillar at any point) the version of the cat thats in PTU currently and will require actual model changes on the ship which could force 2.6 into another month

i'm not saying i didnt expect bugs, or that it's not a good thing for players to be seeing all this bullshit, i'm just wondering how it managed to get passed as a playable ship in that state at their current level of development

>>161851204
>first
lolno
>>161815368

at least ctrl+f the thread for the EXACT SAME LINK you retard

>>161851949
>features are missing

no, I mean that I've seen claims of missing essential files with this workaround.

>>161851775
How does it fair against Global Sedition raiders?

>>161851949
the guy isn't in evocati, he's just replacing game files to get it to spawn, of course half of it is broken.

>>161852107
Well fingers crossed that's the case

if this is what the devs were seeing in an actual iteration of the ship ingame and said "looks good to me, put it in evocati and see if they can find something wrong with it" i'd be a little worried

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>>161851892

A-10 is cute!

>>161851775
lol 6 scu
it puts the "mini" in "mini-hauler" I guess
get video nigger

>>161851949
Clipping into and out of the ship happens to every fucking ship you can walk around in. If anything this proves how consistently shit the QA process is.

>>161852107
The patcher literally downloads the entire 2.6 build ETF uses.
If there were missing files they would have to be given out in some sooper seekrit way and then copypasted into the game but even then that wouldn't work because they have to be signed so you're talking shit. Post proof of these "missing files" or fuck off.

>>161852595
>so you're talking shit. Post proof of these "missing files" or fuck off.

Wow, who pissed in your cereal nigger? calm down.

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>>161852554
>can you open this?
>is this it?

>>161851775
It should be completely voluntary
So insane pilots can flip it to reduce profile from threatened angles

>>161845336
I meant more as in he's poor as fuck from bad investments and lost all his good boy money

it's pretty easy to maintain/grow your wealth
it's the starting out that's the hardest

>>161852990
Ey fuckign tell me about it, I'd Id been playing the stock market with real money for the past ten years Id be a fucking millionaire. but instead im shitposting on 4chan and playing with imaginary dollarydoos.

>>161852309
It's actually worse, though not because of any direct nerf on the ship. The gun range reduction means you tend to be *much* closer when your target explodes and I swear to to god, you'd think there was some sort on magnetic effect on the fiery husks, because they almost always seem to fly right at your ship. And due to the Reliant's wide ass profile that means it's really easy to get a wing sheered off nearly every time you actually manged to shoot something down.

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>>161841997

>>161853729
also you still can't use the hardpoint on the left wing tip, nor does it have it's missiles yet. When they said "all missile racks have been replaced with new models for the new system "They actually meant "all... but those weird ships that require special custom rack systems."

>>161853516
pharma is safe and prints money at a steady rate

>>161853846
ok my post was avenger bait you can stop now.

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>>161854480
no

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>>161824660
>>161827953
these are bad and not funny because you are unoriginal and know nothing about the game to base your criticism on, they're all the exact same sentiment. here, I made one that's actually funny and based in reality.

>>161850430
there are command module guns? news to me but the proof is in the picture I guess. everybody from RSI to Reddit and here seems to be sure the pilot has no guns to fire. maybe they're only active when you break off?

>>161855038
see
>>161768145
hardpoint on the left of the command module is clearly visible, lowest red section on command module.
>>161815368
here too probably i cant remember this video is too long.
and here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkmPnG4z4B0

I destroyed one of the canisters for a Salvage Operation mission.
Am I screwed?

>>161855883
Salvage is hot commodity. You could literally get them from anywhere and be fine.

>>161855038
No they fire, but you currently have to manually set them to a weapon group in the mfd, and the gimbals don't seem to work at all.

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>>161856139
These have the (Unique) tag to them.

>>161856268
You're screwed, yeah. It clearly states in the mission pitch that the items cannot be replaced and stuff

>>161856321
I slammed onto one of them. FML.

>>161856389

Next time be less shit of a pilot or get a collector limpet controller.

>>161840112
interior ladders in any ship that has them are automatic

ladders that animate your character climbing into or out of the ship are <use>

>>161857368
>hit engine boost instead of engine full stop
>inside station
>while silent running
I'm a REALLY shit pilot

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>finally get around to playing ED after impulse buying a few months ago
>every station personnel at starting station is super fucking rude because rank 0 noob
>"Can't believe we let scum like you on our wonderful station, by the way none of our station services work because civil war"
>FSD to next closest station and request landing
>go to highlighted pad with plenty of time to spare I got this shit almost-YOU ARE LOITERING
>ASP suddenly smashes into the top of my landing Sidewinder and I get fined
When you guys mentioned the Vision... I... I didn't know. How real it truly is.

>>161860384
>go to highlighted pad with plenty of time to spare I got this shit almost-YOU ARE LOITERING
>ASP suddenly smashes into the top of my landing Sidewinder and I get fined

That wasn't your pad you filthy loiterer.

The pad holograms are visible to everyone. Make sure it's actually your number. Also your compass will point to your pad after you request docking.


https://youtu.be/FLBon8U1Ez0?t=120

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>>161853729
>>161853964
This is good! It'll be easier to attack the Hypergate.

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>>161860862
What the fucking shit that makes perfect sense thank you

>>161860862
this vid is great

it's true, suffering is the catalyst of the most poignant art

>>161861316
when did a dog make it to the ISS anyway? it was the fucking Russians again wasn't it

>>161860384
>>every station personnel at starting station is super fucking rude because rank 0 noob

The NPCs worship you once you're reknowned which is frankly even more obnoxious.

Kind of worth it though for factions you're actually hostile with because they're utterly terrified of you.

>tfw you will never be a fresh recruit on a giant spaceship going on adventures and finding love
It hurts

>>161863283
you can always erp your org leader up

>All those bullets you miss will keep flying until they hit some other poor sods ship in another system or a settlement

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Not to bad of a score for an Aegis vanguard, my guns arnt messing up that much. Just wish I could change the weapons.

>>161863904
Were you Rednite?

>>161864063
Urlond.

>>161863634
The chances are l i t e r a l l y astronomical

I keep getting mining missions worth up to a million credits. How long do those take to complete?
It's stuff like "expansion effort needs X units of Y". Does it take long to mine?

>>161864508
Well---yeah. There are tools to make it faster, though. Depending on what mineral or metal you're looking for you need certain rings in which to look for them: Icey, metal rich, or rocky.

There's a planetary ring database here: http://edtools.ddns.net/index.php?s=

Take an escort if you can.

>>161865462
Nevermind then, thanks.

>tfw Hornet Ghost and Freelancer DUR

What ship to buy next? I think I've got combat and exploration pretty well handled. The caterpillar looks awesome, should I wait for it?

>>161864260
With how many shots fired in RE sites some of them are bound to go towards a planet

>>161865625
If they hit atmosphere they'll more than likely burn up, detonate, or dissipate.

>>161865615
>What ship to buy next

Go all out and buy the 20,000 dollar package.

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>>161865806

>>161865717
Most planets don't have atmospheres

>"assassinate target" mission
>ranked as mostly harmless
>get to location
>target is mostly harmless
>he's surrounded by deadly wingmen
>at least 8 ships in here
Who the fuck made this shit.

>>161867032
I said if...

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>>161867437
NOW DO YOU SEE THE VISION? THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED!

>>161867507
Can't SC come out already?
I want to play a space game. Fuck everything.

>>161867437
>! Hostile ships may be sent against you
Is usually an indicator they have an escort.

>>161867437
The ranking for those missions are fucked, ignore them. Always assume the target may have high tier escorts.

>>161867798
But if the escort for a harmless or mostly harmless mission is 8 'deadly' or 'dangerous' tier ships how the fuck is anyone supposed to do these missions?
You mean to tell me I need an endgame ship before doing entry level missions?

>>161865717
Not using large mass drivers to orbital bombard, or to not worry about atmosphere.

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>tfw with VR

>>161867958
I'm with what >>161867946 says that the rating is utterly fucked for Assassinations and needs to be retooled. But you don't need a late-game ship to kill the target, load a ship with Torps if you're a small ship and just unload on the target then gtfo.

>>161868149
Guess I'll do it that way then.

Should I replace the Gatling gun on the Vanguard with something else?

>>161867946
Just eboug everything in elite is fucked in some way,yet they keep churning out useless addons instead of fixing them.

>>161868306
fixed M7A