SWTOR 5.0 general

>>161549916
I love my potato!

>>161549916
We underestimated bioware.
It takes real skill to make your game worse with every patch.

>>161550212
that's not a very vuffy pulva

>>161549851
>you'll just have to farm your best-CXP-gain-per-hour warzones twice as hard
>on every class you want to use, since the command ranks are not legacy wide
>there's a limit of 2000 command points per week
>RNG can fuck you over so you'll get shit by the time you could get full PVP gear and some nice PVE stuff in 4.0

It's nice that you're defending the devs so hard, mr Musco. But you won't get clients to resub by name-calling them. How about promising a brand new reskinned mount or HK-55 underwear for a 6 month subscription instead?

>>161550321
>>there's a limit of 2000 command points per week
lol what kind of shit are you reading, retard
I've gotten more than that just today

I know people say that KotET pretty much cornered itself with an ultimate goal that can't really be topped, but I can see how the expansion might end in an open-ended trilogy.

Knights of the Galactic Armada:
>a massive war between the Empire and Republic breaks out like everyone knew was going to happen
>the Alliance gets involved
>has to choose a side, make peace or take control
>four possible endings: Rise of the Empire, Rise of the Republic, Balance of Power, Return of Zakuul
>an unbroken control of the galaxy for however many hundreds of years until the next piece of the story takes over to tilt the scales, long after our characters are dead

>>161550321
it's 27k on pts, not 2k. don't know why but i saw people on the fleet talking about 2k cap.
27k is still shit though. getting to tier 3 (lvl 180) will take ~6 months. it'll slow progression guilds ridiculously and new pvp people starting 6 months later will never catch up with the ones who farmed stuff before that. assuming the rng will give them set pieces by that time.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz

daily reminder

>>161550392
Judging by how BW manages things, 6.0 will be just a bunch of alliance alerts, so you could get the "new" companions they took from you last year desu.

M M O
M
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So basically

>2011
>fans: we want KotOR III
>BW: ok, here's a new MMO for you

>current year
>fans: so we're not getting new raids two years in a row?
>BW: fuck you nigger. single player 4 life, biatch!

>>161553887
>muh raids

Very few players solely participate in Operations. Flashpoints are far more popular and they added new pseudo-flashpoints in Uprisings.

Can I blacklist the arena warzones? There's always bizarre matchups like 2 healers vs 1 healer, how do I avoid this shit?

>>161553887
there isnt going to be more solo shit until the end of next year, retard

>>161554182
>reading is too hard

>>161554180
>fastest way to get CXP in the game
>blacklist it

dumb

>>161554563
if they were really "single player 4 lyf" like your retarded post implies they were, they'd be jamming as much single player shit down our throats as humanly possible instead of shunting it to the side for other shit

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Best alien races for bounty hunter that aren't zabrak or white balds?

Or should i just go for human bimbo redhead with some freckles and bt4

>>161554658
>instead of shunting it to the side for other shit

>virtually all new content in KotFE is soloable (except for 2 new WZ), even some of the old stuff (FPs) became soloable
>virtually all new content in KotET is soloable (except for hard mode uprisings, but that can change once you get better gear)

you are retarded, aren't you?

>>161554758
lore wise: only zabraks, rattataki and humans / cyborgs
there was one Chiss BH called Spiker in Shadows of the Empire, but that was before their culture was established in lore, so we can pretty much call him a special snowflake.

>>161554886
>something is soloable by skilled players therefore its intended to be soloed by unskilled players

having fun moving those goalposts?

Not enough gain for the amount of effort put into Galactic Command. Points rewarded for doing activities have to be buffed
Fuck this shit

>>161555087
>by skilled players
you mean those able to use two hands, retard?

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I quit about 2 years ago and gave away everything I had in this general back then. This was shortly after housing came out.

Is there any point in playing again? How active is the player base, how frequent are the updates? And how good/bad was the time skip angle?

>>161555101
>amount of effort
>literally do whatever content you want and get rewarded for it

>>161555315
>Is there any point in playing again?
Only if you're interested in the story. It's not nearly as good as vanilla though. KotFE didn't even feel like SW. KotET feels much better (comparable with vanilla at moments), but still far from being great.

>how frequent are the updates?
KotFE had monthly updates, but they're probably not what you'd imagine. Only solo chapters, 2 new warzones, eternal championship (arena fights against 10 bosses) and some minor crap (getting new companions). KotET will probably have even less, since the whole storyline is already there.

>And how good/bad was the time skip angle?
Bad, but it's the locations that make it worse. Literally nothing of SW atmosphere left in the story.

>>161555685
Thanks, guess it's not worth buying a sub for that then. I kinda miss my Tatooine mansion, but oh well... sad to see a game that managed to improve a lot go down like that again.

>>161555685
>Literally nothing of SW atmosphere left in the story.
Explain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkgzXpKbVGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbpDxrew4A0

Feels very Star Wars to me.

>>161557307
>Zakuul being completely shoehorned into the lore (how come no one mentioned it ~3600 years later?)
>army of Zakuulan Force users other than Jedi / Sith
>some weird ass Zakuulan organisations (Followers of Zidrog or whatever) we're suppose to care about, even though we never heard of those fucks
>Vitiate's backstory and family drama, that's basically a retcon of a retcon of a retcon
>Force insensitive classes using Force because ghosts and shiet
>both Republic and Empire rendered meaningless and going out of character because Muh Alliance

Aside from that the story doesn't center around your character anymore. So the game lost the best thing that made vanilla content great.

>>161558108
>Zakuul being completely shoehorned into the lore (how come no one mentioned it ~3600 years later?)
Most of SW canon is shoehorned and takes time to get canonized (if it does).
>army of Zakuulan Force users other than Jedi / Sith
Which are well-explained, they're so strong because of their loyalty to Vitiate who's known for buffing up lesser beings.
>some weird ass Zakuulan organisations (Followers of Zidrog or whatever) we're suppose to care about, even though we never heard of those fucks
To add flavor to the lore, so you know what you're up against.
>Vitiate's backstory and family drama, that's basically a retcon of a retcon of a retcon
It's actually a decent family drama
>Force insensitive classes using Force because ghosts and shiet
They're being protected by the force, not actively using it.
>both Republic and Empire rendered meaningless and going out of character because Muh Alliance
It took tons of defeats to get the Sith Empire to fully join forces. And keep in mind Zakuul was raised by a Sith.

>>161558108
It does actually center around your character as the messiah that is destined to claim the eternal throne.

Problem is that it strips pretty much everything class specific to reach that goal.

I'd like to call it a lame attempt to give us KoTOR 3, but I can't do this with clear conscience because:
>Action takes place in area they made up on the spot to write themselves out of the corner
>Central conflict of light vs dark is all but gone with nothing appealing to replace it: It's your colorful kettle of "the Alliance" against the guy in control of the invincible droid army.
>It's linear like a jRPG, levels are literally just corridors with enemies spawning at regular intervals.
>Interaction with the party is restricted to cutscenes with impact on storytelling boiling down for the most part to your morality bar.

Do achievements from the dark vs light event work for you?

Noticed my lvl 26 knight did not get credit for being raised to lvl 25

yeah bw mentioned that any achievements from dvl now are displayed as 0%

Who writes the story for The Old Republic? It's quite obvious what paths the story will take and I'm never really surprised. And who created Lana the sue? I've romanced her but she sure doesn't feel or act like a sith.

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>Age of the Eternal Alliance

What the fuck is the MC smoking? There is absolutely no reason for the Alliance to exist anymore.
At best, MC is the emperor/empress of Zakuul (almost as bad as Arcann if you went full retard/dark side).

>Theron and Lana are preparing for a war against Republic and Empire

U wot m8s? How exactly are we gonna fight them when like 90% of the Alliance are reps/imps?
What the fuck is everyone inhaling? I want some.

On an unrelated note, I'd fuck Empress Acina.

>>161561453
Acina is the best thing about this expansion tbqh

>There is absolutely no reason for the Alliance to exist anymore.
True. I imagine some of the people who feel they have nothing to go back to could stick around Odessen and continuing to follow MC as his gang though. It's funny thing though. How would you describe it? Military state? Technocracy? Corporation?

>At best, MC is the emperor/empress of Zakuul (almost as bad as Arcann if you went full retard/dark side).
Well last person who held the title was Vaylin, at this point Zakuulites are probably happy with anything.

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>>161558706
either master contrarian or Eric Musco

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>>161562071
>How would you describe it? Military state? Technocracy? Corporation?

My warrior has declared it is Separatist Gorilla Warfare Confederate Theocracy.

>>161561196
>And who created Lana the sue? I've romanced her but she sure doesn't feel or act like a sith
Because she's pragmatic

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>A bunch of people following MC because he's just so cool
>A hero of legend
>Not beholden to any nation but sought by all

hmmmm

>>161566691
Looks fun

>>161566691
better endgame content than the one provided by BW, i suppose

So has BW stated the story is continuing after this? The ending was kinda fucking unsatisfying. Especially since your only options are to go full oppressor evil or go fuller retard and say
>"I'm not an Emperor because muh morals are more important than helping stabilize the galaxy with a strong center of power during reconstruction :^)"

That was fucking frustrating.

>>161562145
You're right, how could anyone possibly hold a different opinion than you?

>>161570225
>water is dry. this is my opinion and i'm entitled to it.

>>161569806
Could be you against splinter factions of the Empire/Republic. The mails you get after finishing kotet imply some of them getting sick of your dominance already

>>161572374
It's really not that difficult to justify military action against some violent insurgents. Only difference is whether you keep it "asserting your rule" or "keeping the peace"

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who /pragmatic/ here?

>Play consular
>Get to Voss defence speech
>Pick option 2 because "we fight for peace", or option 1, seems inappropriate
>WAR'S IN OUR BLOOD
[cringe]

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This is the weirdest game ever. I am having fun but they must be smoking some powerful stuff to come up with this stuff.

a powerful bounty hunter group that the sith empress thinks is nothing more then a fable turns out to be hunting you and her on DK. The former Republic prime minister is able to pay them to do this work. Sounds like the black list for bounty hunters! HA

I had a blast finishing this story on my goodie two shoes smuggler. Now I am running it on my edgelord sith assassin and I am curious to see the results if they will be any different.

Haven't tried any of the new stuff yet so I am looking forward to seeing what those are. So far I am enjoying this expansion MUCH more then the last one.

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>>161573565
The weakness is in your blood!

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So you either baby sit the Republic and the Empire, or you simply become the ruler of a third power.

Eternal Alliance is a shit name, I want to conquer the galaxy for the Empire while dicking Acina in the process.

>>161574195
And next year you get to lose it all to some ANCIENT EVIL

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>>161561196
I think they went to a writers workshop at a junior college in seattle and asked those crackheads for some fan fiction and then used that as the script.

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>>161558108
What we're seeing is not merely developers being lazy. It's coordinated. It's deliberate. It's moving the game into the completely utter grind mindset of stuff like Perfect World does.

Reputation systems with tiers? Lockboxes? Story missions that don't even really make sense if you group up, but are seemingly specifically designed for single player? End-game content that not only requires endless grinding but rewards nothing but more grinding?

Star Trek Online laid out the template for this YEARS ago.

>>161558883
>It does actually center around your character as the messiah that is destined to claim the eternal throne.

Well, yes and no. The Outlander is bound to pick the path some of my characters would never use. Knights, Warriors, Agents, Troopers and others have became the same fucking Mary Sue. In the vanilla stories some choices actually did have consequences. You could really feel that you're the one creating the story. Now it's like someone forcing you to sit on that fucking throne and sometimes make you say things you'd never spoke otherwise.

Our characters aren't ours anymore. They're became BW's actors playing in some weird fanfic loosely related to Star Wars.

>>161576350
Almost forgot. Notice that the camera was always with you trough the vanilla story. Now the narration jumps to show us Arcann sitting on the toilet trough entire KotFE and bitching to his retarded sister about daddy issues. Literally the
>Sorry, We Really Don't Give a Fuck Anymore: The Game

>>161576350
I don't know, I've never really felt like my choices mattered, even in the vanilla stories. Except maybe with agent. And most of the classes have always been mary sues, especially knights. Not really defending the writing in kotfe onwards, but to think things took a nosedive in quality is nostalgia talking. The writing has never been great.

>>161576645
Let's be fair even if BioWare doesn't deserve it. Those toilet-sitting scenes helped immensely in establishing Arcann and Vaylin as characters and antagonists for you.

>>161576350
While I agree with some of your points, I'm not understanding the whole "this isn't what my character would have done" bit. It sucks, yes, but this was always around. You could apply this to Vanilla as well. An SI who hates the empire and its slavery is stuck there, a self-interested smuggler suddenly goes Republic Privateer, a Jedi Knight not staying with the emperor post-influence resistance, etc.

>>161577219
I hope you're being sarcastic

Anyhoo. We're just a vessel to experience Bioware's table-top story about some fucked up family drama on Zakuul. Your character was shoehorned into it and tried being given a fair narrative but feels misplaced.

>>161577008
>most of the classes have always been mary sues, especially knights
No, they were just archetypes. The Knight was OP indeed, although that was actually in line with established canon (Karpyshyn's Revan novel). Still a bit cringy, but not that bad.

There are class stories other than Agent that actually make your decisions meaningful enough to somewhat bond with character. Like Warrior's vision on Tatooine, Trooper's outrage while coming across the traitor in the Senate, BH's decision whether to join Mando clan and so on. Yeah, they're not choices that will decide the fate of the entire fucking universe, but they help you decide who your character actually is. Interaction with your companions was also important for the same reason. You'll find nothing like that in the last two expansions.

>>161578123
>Like Warrior's vision on Tatooine,
Still mad there was no option as light side to say you don't believe in the peace/temperament of the jedi, but the passion of the Sith can be turned towards good

>>161577261
I played the vanilla stories twice on each class. And while some choices did feel restrictive, they weren't any near what KotFE did to the game.

Anyway, there was no reason for SI to hate the Empire itself. He was a slave because he was weak. Once he gained strength, the chains were broken. SI's story is literally the embodiment of Sith Code.

>>161578249
There was another great Warrior moment on Belsavis, where you were forced to work with a holier-than-thou Jedi. The most glorious dick move in entire game: refuse to kill Baras' sister, forcing the asshole Jedi to violate his code and murder a defenceless prisoner.

This is the kind of stuff that made vanilla truly great.

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>>161579120
My feet say otherwise.

>>161578634
You're not the only one. The SI could have
hated it for a variety of reasons. Systematic slavery could have fucked over his loved ones in the past. He could hate how self-destructive the faction is and view it as a sinking ship, or he may want nothing to do with the constant fear of a higher up suddenly going "I feel like killing you now" and have essentially no way out.
Btw, you aren't made a slave because of weakness, read the game's codex entry about it. They didn't start to even give them the chance to prove themselves until entry requirements were relaxed during the Prologue.

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>veteran mode chapter 2

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>>161579610
topkek

>>161580712
SI was a slave because his family has been enslaved in the past. And that happened because Lord Kallig showed weakness by being defeated by Tulak Horde. This is how the Sith see things. It's not about fair chances. A Sith living by the Sith Code wouldn't care about being treated like shit in the past. If anything, he would embrace the rage and use it against his enemies.

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>>161581192

The Monolith is some fucking bullshit.

>>161583164
Try hatred for the life leech.

>weekly heroics 60-65
>two alliance crates
>66-69
>just one
>70
>still one, plus cxp tip
why

>>161583232

I don't know how to play Hatred.

>>161583164
Oh I meant DK on KotET.
I managed to kill the dogs with kiting.
Then that first Genofucker dude with LoS.
Then pussied out at the leader.

>>161583520
It's not hard. Keep dots and death field buff up, use leeching strike and assassinate on cooldown and meanwhile spam trash and saber strike when in need of resources. Deception is currently better but I can't stand skills that require me to stand behind enemies to use it.

>>161583732
That last part with three dudes is impossible on veteran, I can't keep all of them off my comp and they're hard to kill.

>>161583164
>No cooldown timers

ew

>>161584184
I'll try again when I finish the story, that's the only chapter that I was not able to finish so far on veteran.
Apparently you don't need to waste an interrupt on that long ass cast 1hko ability since it stops on any damage, so you can better use interrupt/stun/whatever on that bullshit hail of bolts.

I wish assassin would have more force powers. Maybe sorcs being overloaded with different powers is the reason them being gutted.

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>>161581192
>Does story mode
>has great time
>Finishes story and feels good
>hears people bitching in fleet about how hard and how bullshit this or that is
>grins as I am now starting my 3rd alt through the story mode.

Stay angry!

>the general is back

YES

NOW I CAN POST MY TOGRUTA SLUT AGAIN

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>>161550212
>>161572876
>>161573834

Need more sluts

Post more you fools

>>161583232
Life leech doesn't even heal that much. Not to mention the spec itself is not fun to play at all.

>>161587267
>unironically wanting to do this more than once in a row, maybe twice to see faction specific lines, as many as there are

>>161587267
>angry
but anon, I'm having fun

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>>161587682
1 - Goodie two shoes alt
2 - Edgelord alt
3 - For me

>>161587604
I have always liked dot specs. Maybe I'd play deception if maul wasn't such a center part of the discipline and forcing you to be behind enemies. The proc should allow you to do it from the front like that concealment agent passive. Or give that retardedly strong lethality passive also to hatred.

>stay subbed for 3 years straight
>forgot to renew after I cancelled my CC
>don't get early access

fug

this wait til friday is killing me

already got spoiled on the expansion too so fuck my ass and call me shirley

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>>161549916
missed this thred

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>>161588289
HA! I thought I was the only one that used that expression

See you Friday! (its awesome)

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Bioware just reminds me of having a really bad DM. They don't understand how the meta of gameplay and storytelling works, and most of their ideas, good and bad, are just stolen and water down.

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>>161588556
this is one of the few times, i actually like capes in games. Because you got the screenshot of it just right during a battle

rest of the time, fucking hate them unless their some weird shit like two ribbons hanging from your back or something

>>161588556
Chestpiece?

>>161588556
Bioware storytelling has ALWAYS been like this, I don't get why people are surprised. They're strong on Lore and Narrative, not Consistency and Flexibility.

>>161588206
>The proc should allow you to do it from the front like that concealment agent passive
Oh, I agree. Its the reason I played serenity (equivalent of hatred) for a long time because a tank companion doesn't do it's job half the time so I like to aggro them myself and have a healing companion.

Thats being said. Kinetic combat (tank spec) is my favorite spec to play with dps gear. A shame that it's for tanks only. If only it had a dps equivalent.

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>>161589528

Black Vulkar

Is XP on F2P gimped badly?

>>161591463
Thanks mate!

>>161591463
not gonna lie homie that looks pretty good

>>161575291
it's Chuck Boyd's shitty tabletop campaign from like 15 years ago forced into a linear storyline

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>>161588985
I just hate how capes and hoods ruin so many sets. Malak's sets would be so much better if the cape was replaced by piece of cloth like on every other side it has. At least Malak is acceptable with cape and how it moves when using lacerate looks good.

>>161590419
>(tank spec) is my favorite spec to play with dps gear
This is what I always do on all my "tanks".
Vanguard/PT is the funner-est.

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>>161592309
I wonder what the next storyline will be.

Yuuzhan Vong? I can't wait for the next hack writers guild meeting.

>>161592891
>Knights of the Foreverial Empire (KotFvE)
>VITIATE had YET ANOTHER empire in some even more hidden place in the galaxy and is now back with his FOREVERIAL CLONE ARMY!
>PC will be THE STRANGER and fight him gathering allies for his CONSORTIUM

>>161592891
I almost want it to be the Vong for the sheer amount of buttfrustration that it will cause

and apparently at the end of KOTET there's something about exploring beyond the edge of the galaxy, which is where the Vong come from

>>161593807
>and apparently at the end of KOTET there's something about exploring beyond the edge of the galaxy, which is where the Vong come from
Were the 9 chapters they shat out not the whole thing? Were they planning to push out more chapters?

How is this game even alive? I'm literally shocked that there are still people enjoying running 3 year old raids every week and calling it progression raiding lol

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>>161587389
Togrutas are cute

>>161593887
they've already said they gave up on the episodic chapters idea since people just binge-played them anyway and that they wont be doing more story content until 6.0
and BWA always takes fucking ages to finish storylines, the Dread Masters stuff took from launch until late 2013 to finally get resolved

The Republic's descent into being a shit tier government continues.
>Space Saresh's life
Jace and Satele prepare for another war despite this.

Meanwhile, Acina has been making the Empire great again for almost 6 years now, offered an truce with the Alliance, and generally the Sith Empire finally has it's shit together.

I'm very happy with how this turned out. My Empire's Wrath main is, at least.

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Action!

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>>161592891
As much as some fans hate the Vong, those Clive Barker's rejects still fit in EU better than the entire Zakuul storyline. And with 20 novels they at least got some decent lore when it comes to their history, civilization and religion.

Also, Canderous Ordo in KotOR told the story of discovering a coralskipper or something close to it, so they are around somewhere.

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>>161550212
>>161595614
Love them crotch shots! MOAR

>>161594239
Killing Master / Blaster and Revan on Hard Mode is still a challenge for 99% players. Mostly because of insane mechanics though.

>>161592864
I would still play the tank spec in dps gear, but isn't gear you get from the Galactic Command boxes tied to your discipline? I don't want to end up with specific tank gear.

>tfw been using the same outfit for years at this point

I just can't find anything that looks like that nice cross of armor and Jedi stuff without going overboard or its colors looking like shit because the robes and armor aren't distinguished properly.

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>>161550212
>>161595614
>>161595897
I timed mine wrong. Regardless, jumping over droids is cool.

let it die lads. we're all in the discord anyways.

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>>161596121
I am the opposite. I need a new outfit for each place I go.

I am really loving this expansion so far. (Story mode - haven't tried Veteran mode because I want to enjoy what I am doing not tear my hair out in frustration)

I hope we get to keep this cute lil robot that follow me around

>>161596025
I believe the system will give preference to whatever spec you have selected at the time you open the crates, so if you open them as DPS you'll get your class DPS gear.
You will end up needing at least 2 sets, and/or maybe replace mods/enh with lower DPS version from GTN/crafting by yourself after getting all tank armoring pieces. Huge time/resource investment, I guess especially if you also want to tank decently on the side.

>>161596314
I don't use the discord

>>161596753
then get on it so we can stop wasting board space

>>161596834
The entire board is wasted space, what the fuck are you on about

>>161596314
the discord is like a dozen people at most that actively play TOR and even less would post here

>>161566691
I remember that event! Do those guys still exist? I am thinking about coming back to this game.

>>161596314
>>161596834
I don't know anything about that discord, but thread will probably die naturally as soon as expansion hype disappears in a couple days/weeks/months, no reason to forcefully kill it before that
can you link it anyways?

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This place is beautiful in an abandoned city way.

what time does KOTET release for us plebs that didn't stay subbed from the required time?

is it 12 am est tonight or what?

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>>161597401

Imagine if Bioware came out of the gate swinging and Taris looked like this

>>161597598
it would still be shitty disgusting rakghoul-infected Taris

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>>161597682

A pleasing aesthetic can go a long way when contributing to game design. Much better than scattering around the equivalent of 3D clipart that is Taris.

>>161597401
I just made that my wallpaper. Thanks! I am looking forward to getting to play

>>161596834
Can't get on it without a link or name shit for brains

>>161599058
oh... well this is awkward

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>He doesn't change Arcann's shitty lightsaber color
ISHYGDDT

>>161599058
the server admin is AFK and I think he's the only one with a link, unless there's some kind of server browser that you can search "Space Dress Up Artists"

>>161599538
>Arcann living

what is this non-canon heresy

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Whats your favorite planet /swgg/?

>>161602207
Quesh

>>161602207
Despite never really enjoying the quests there, I really liked the permanent Autumn feeling Voss had. Belsavis as well just for the uniqueness.

>>161602207
Hoth

>>161602207
Manaan

a pity its so criminally underused in TOR

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>>161602796
>>161602207
>>161602905

Super contrarian opinion coming through

I like Hoth the best. The wide open spaces. The gentle music. Snow is nice and I enjoy the sense of exploration of vastness.

>>161549916
when is Revan coming back again

>>161603646
never, he's dead for good

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>>161603471
>we will never have a manaan stronghold

>>161602207
Nar Shadaa.

The very first time I went there, the huge cityscape gave me a massive scenery boner.

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>>161602207
Coruscant

I go to my stronghold to just gaze at the beauty there. It is my favorite place.

Is there a /vg/ guild in swtor?

>>161604673
Sluts R Us

>>161604673
not any particularly active ones

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>>161602207
Mine goes back to SWG

Dathomir was my favorite hunting planet. Naboo was my favorite planet to hang out. Pity we will never have either of those in this game.

But at least we have Vette to play with. if you think I am choosing that fag over Vette my waifu you are insane. Snorian gets to die

>>161602207
Coruscant or Nar Shadda. I'm a sucker for Ecumenopoleis.

>>161604673
There's one on Ebon Hawk that has some light activity now that the expac is out

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>>161605034
I don't get you potato fags or blue fags.

Mako is where the fun is.

>>161605505
>Mako
>literal bargain bin clone "waifu"

>>161605034
>"Wait, you're just... abandoning me?"
"This is war, Vette. A Mandalorian soldier is just a more valuable resource."
>"That's all I am to you? A resource? Well at least I know where I stand."
You're waifu a shit.

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>>161605505
Where is Mako? hhmm?

>you will never see Mako again

So I will stick with Vette and Lana lovers can have their waifu.

Yours is gone forever. So keep crying

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>>161605719
ok.

go with the emo kid that cuts himself. You two deserve each other. I will stick with the one that can open doors and looks good

>>161606015
>I will stick with the one that can open doors
Great skill set, that.

>>161605719
I killed him because after what I did to mandalorians he was a ticking time bomb against me. I wasn't gonna wait around before getting vibro knife in my back.

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>>161606184
Yes. Considering I always end up in old dungeons and graveyards and ruins it is nice to have someone around that not only knows tech but can figure out ways to get to things I want.

Snorian is just a common emo thug. Dime a dozen.

Vette can take me where I like to go.

>>161606247
>mando
>sneaking up and attacking from the back like some rank and file agent

>>161606523
At this point I'm pretty sure we're powerful enough to just tear a door open wherever we see fit. I don't need a cowardly little worm at my side when I'm charging the fray.

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>2016 almost 17
>still no legacy credit storage

>>161607280
it would be far too convenient and BWA hates that

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>>161607280
>2016 almost 17
>People still care about other people's waifus

>Increase the amount of points needed to level DS or LS tenfold

What was the point of this, the first level is where the last used to be

>>161607637
you get DS/LS points from basically everything now
I ticked back up to Light V from killing the first few packs in a solo star fort after recruiting Akghal Usar

>>161607637
I haven't played on a newer character yet to make sure, but I think from the beginning you choose an allegiance and literally every sidequest, crew skill and enemy you kill gives you points.

I got a few thousand points from training slicing last night. Not that it matters much since I didn't decrease in rank at all.

Oh shit, I just realized, with all of these mini point increases and odd numbers, it's going to be near impossible to get the Darth Oculus (neutral) ending for Inquisitor, isn't it?

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>>161603489

>>161608259
it never was exactly 0

>>161606015
the fuck is that weapon on your back?

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>>161607980
>choose to be light side
>go around murdering everything you see
>rack up tons of light side points doing so

why

>>161608259
anything other than Nox isn't worth getting anyway

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Post characters

>>161608582
>Noxfu
Mah nigga.

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>>161608654

>>161607637
Pick diplomacy and whichever side you want. All missions will be what you chose and it feels like they grant you more than before. I only arrived at Tatooine and I'm at 8k.

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>commit your allegiance to the light/dark side of the force
>playing as something other than a force user
doesn't really feel right does it

>>161608582
Nox sounds best but most of inquisitor's dark side choices are short sighted so I always end up being Imperius.

>>161608949
A lot of this doesn't favor non-force users, so you have to use mental gymnastics to make everything fit.

Look at it as more Evil vs Good, or Empire vs Republic, then realize your character is at the least a force sensitive even if it never grew to a point you could use it for anything useful.

>>161609197
wasnt it confirmed a while back or something that pretty much anyone can use the force if they train for it since the force flows through every living thing in the galaxy?

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>want to buy a Stormtrooper helmet on Amazon for Christmas
>Black Series edition is temporarily out of stock in all Europe

Fuck, come on Yuros, get your shit together. I want to create new sluts while wearing a fucking helmet this Christmas desu.

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>>161608492
Veteran Outlander Duelist's Saberstaff

>>161609549
well that's what force sensitivity is, you're able to sense the force

part of what Valk does in ch12 is expand your force sensitivity, so storywise tech classes are a little bit force-sensitive but still nowhere near the level that the force classes have

Random question. Did they ever fix the animation bug for force quake? This bug has been around for 2+ years.

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>>161607247
Many traps are set to be gently moved if you know where they are and how to find them.

Vette is great for getting into tight spaces and doing her thing. Plus she is fun to be around and provides creature comforts that snorian can't.

Plus she is a hell of a shot with those pistols.

But I won't argue with you if you like your emo boytoy

I will stick with Vette

I think it's funny how the game went from "your level 1 companion solo everything while you AFK" straight into "you have to use every DCD on every fight, maybe even heroic moment, and you still can die in 2 hits vs golds" if you play on veteran mode.

>>161610298
Fair enough. You have your preferences, I have mine.

And mine is still wearing a shock collar.

>>161610298
And you can have your own headcanon about keeping your buddy Wrath happy by saving his girl. Friendly Wrath is worth far more than one mando.

I know it's mine since I'm lightfag and both of my characters see that Empire needs to change.

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>tfw no Senya gf

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>>161605719
I regretted saving her right after I spoke to her..while Torian fit the lost comrade better, I regretted not choosing him. Still it was interesting having Arcann actually referring to Vette by name.

>>161611163
>you will never impregnate Senya then abduct her child, send it back in time and turn it into the perfect weapon against Arcann and Vaylin

>>161611163
>she'll never sing for you

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I am loving this expansion.

killing Saresh, Senya and Koth feels so good! Turning that rat on DK into a slave felt even better. I wonder who else I get to kill

>>161613009
WAIT WAIT, YOU GET TO KILL SARESH?

.....i have never been so aroused...that cunt has needed to die since i first did taris as a republic character

Having Shae as a companion is pretty funny.
>Told old Mandalore to take his honor and traditions and shove them up his ass
>Beat her in combat and wanted to kill her after she threw in the towel
>She goes on to become the new Mandalore
>Get all her men killed and then blamed her for her poor leadership
>She's now an outcast looking to regain her honor by fighting for me
>Put her in a slave outfit so she knows her place
I have never made a bigger bitch out of someone nonsexually. This is sad.

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>>161613275
HA. Spoilers my friend.

Oh yes. Wait till you see what she does this time. It will feel soooooooo good

>>161613454
Make sure you make her goth Shae. She is vain about her red hair.

>>161613636
Can it be worse than turning republic into empire?

>>161613636
>"Kill me. It's what I would do."
"It's what you deserve."
>Her face when: (oh my god he's actually going to do it!)

>>161613724
I did. That is one sexy skin, which unfortunately if they take away the ability to customize her, we will never see as that skin doesn't have a helmetless version.

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>Killing Saresh
>Not putting them in a prison under your jurisdiction to humiliate them and demonstrate to the galaxy that no one, not leaders of the the most powerful governments in the galaxy, are beyond the reach of the Alliance's justice

>>161614382
When did Archer become a lawyer?

>>161614437
You've got a lot of free time to pass the bar when you're spending eternity as the composite spirit of humanity's bitch.

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>>161550212
>>161596267
You are right. Jumping over that robot was fun!

>>161614382
You do have a good point. But....
Saresh has a lot of powerful friends. People she has blackmailed or is getting kickbacks from her. They will do everything in their power to free her and then you have a rebellion on your hands. You always put down those that could hurt you. Never play with your food.

>Legacy Sacrifice
>Oh cool, when did I unlock that?
>Blasts Dorne with dark energy
>Mild kek

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>>161616864
dat ass! do want!!!

>>161616864
Do you think Valkorion intends to get fucked in every way when he posseses a body like that? he does tell the JK he wants to experience an thousand different lives

>>161611163
>Those flirts that went nowhere

I just wanted a milf waifu in-game desu senpai

>>161617275
probably
he was grooming a smoking hot Pureblood to be his Voice when she found out what was going on

what a fucking terrible ending

>>161617878
welcome to nu-bioware quality writing

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>>161608654

>>161618257
no this is just chuck boyd being a fucking terrible writer, he was responsible for the trooper story

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>>161608654

>Large Common Data Crystal Container
Oh fuck me, I forgot I had these on my Trooper.

Shit, I could have turned those into companion gifts or something. I wonder what they'll even give me now.

>>161618719
the RotHC mail that gave you 5 basic comms/data crystals just gives vendor trash that sells for the equivalent of what they'd be converted to so likely the same as that

>>161619153
Not worth it. I'll hang onto my new novelty items and remind future generations of our struggles.

so when are the next chapters out

>>161619784
probably february goyim

thanks for the 15 bucks

>>161619784
6.0

>>161619973
>implying it will be that soon

>>161620065
good point

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>>161613454
I did the same thing! HA. She is my healbot now.

>>161620191
so when does her alert actually pop up
is it locked behind one of the regular ones or do I have to do ch14 again or some shit
or does using the communicator disable it, unlike Niko's

please come back kira

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>>161620538

>>161618272
This is pretty shit looking mate. Should stop posting it.

>>161618634
Back when the Colossus set was actually rare and worth something.

Still pisses me off desu

>>161620318
Mine just popped up right away. All you do is speak to her and she joins automatically.

I'm not sure if the token disables it, though. I didn't use it.

>>161620689
pls

So is sorc a completely gutted class now?

Aw man, all of the heroics on my Trooper were showing x2 lockbox rewards. I thought they increased the payout, but the moment he turned 66 they dropped back down to one.

>>161621374

Actually taking this a step further which of the force classes is least annoying to play now or least nerfed?

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>>161620538
please come back smuggy

>>161621374
>gave sage/sorc an additional stun
>gutted

what

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>>161620875
yeah, im kinda mad about the kell dragon weapons being made available
I remember getting into a proper team for the first time cause I wanted on so bad. now its just token shit

>>161622063
All of their damage skills were nerfed. No sorc has used saber outside of korriban and they're not going to start now.

01 - 8980 - +5.85% --- Mercenary - Innovative Ordinance || Commando - Assault Specialist
02 - 8964 - +5.65% --- Sniper - Virulence || Gunslinger - Dirty Fighting
03 - 8892 - +4.81% --- Sniper - Engineering || Gunslinger - Saboteur
04 - 8844 - +4.24% --- Operative - Lethality || Scoundrel - Ruffian
05 - 8809 - +3.83% --- Marauder - Annihilation || Sentinel - Watchman
06 - 8717 - +2.75% --- Assassin - Deception || Shadow - Infiltration
07 - 8682 - +2.33% --- Mercenary - Arsenal || Commando - Gunnery
08 - 8673 - +2.23% --- Operative - Concealment || Scoundrel - Scrapper
09 - 8500 - +0.18% --- Juggernaut - Vengeance || Guardian - Vigilance
10 - 8493 - +0.10% --- Marauder - Carnage || Sentinel - Combat
11 - 8352 - -1.56% --- Marauder - Fury || Sentinel - Concentration
12 - 8256 - -2.69% --- Powertech - Advanced Prototype || Vanguard - Tactics
13 - 8226 - -3.05% --- Assassin - Hatred || Shadow - Serenity
14 - 8127 - -4.21% --- Sorcerer - Madness || Sage - Balance
15 - 8116 - -4.34% --- Powertech - Pyrotech || Vanguard - Plasmatech
16 - 8098 - -4.56% --- Juggernaut - Rage || Guardian - Focus
17 - 8072 - -4.86% --- Sniper - Marksman || Gunslinger - Sharpshooter
18 - 7917 - -6.68% --- Sorcerer - Lightning || Sage - Telekinetics

>top 4 dps has 3 agent specs
lmao

>>161621374
>>161622010

I should also mention this is with regard to PvE only.

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>>161622216
So the most fun of each spec is the literal worst spec in terms of actual damage? Sounds about right for BioWare's level of competence.

>>161622216

I'm so glad to see Lightning sorcs at the bottom of the pack. They've been Bioware's favorite for too fucking long.

It won't last, of course, but it's neat to see.

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>>161620689
>>161622014
Is gone forever

Same thing with Mako and Jaesa and everyone else. You will never interact with them again.

>>161622705
I miss when it was easy to abuse the glitch that made their single best spell an instant cast. Made grinding shitty heroics bearable.

>>161622675
>MM
>fun

basic animeposting retard

>>161622216
Heal rankings.
20,277.28
16,279.23
14,401.48
on three targets.

Take a guess which one belongs to who.

Agent
Sorc
Merc

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>>161622216
Well that just makes my evening.

The best classes in the game (IMHO) sniper (marksman) and gunslinger (sharpshooter) and of course Sorcerer (Lighting) and Sage (throwing pebbles) is now the worst.

I bet someone in the dev team got raped by a sniper sorc team or gunslinger sage team.

>Eternal Alliance

You've got to be fucking kidding me with this shit.

>>161622865
>Implying I play Sniper
I meant Sharpshooter

>>161623012
literally identical, retard

>>161622993
We can't have light armored, self healing, long range dot /burst spec be any good, so we buffed heavy armored, self healing, dot / burst spec to be top tier.

>>161622993
I feel bad for marksman, the only reason they keep hitting it with a hammer is because they cant figure out how to balance it for pvp so they just keep ripping damage off it's abilities so it has shit sustain.

>>161622216

Where are these from? The ones I can find on the official forum are different.

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>>161622993
>mfw healed by shield and rolling heals from DoTs in WZs

literally unkillable coupled with Force Barrier

>>161623318
It would literally be beginner's job to create different stats to be used for pve and pvp but Bioware is incapable of even that.

>>161623403
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=9111241#post9111241

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>>161623286
>looks like this Jugg is dead >:^)
>pops "Health Bar 2: Electric Boogaloo"
>healer respawns

>>161623491
nah, there's a fix they could do with the procs or something that would make no change to their pvp burst but elevate their sustain to an acceptable point in raids. make using followthrough grant a damage bonus on the next one or something

I really wish they'd implement a 3 channel mechanic to open world.

>>161623556

I'm going by

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=9135766#post9135766

>>161622993
MM/SS and Lightning/TK were the worst specs of their ACs all through 4.x, retard

>>161623431
Then the solution would've been to tone down the healing outside of corruption skills, not doom the whole class.

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>>161623706
yeah, but same end result. Bant is pretty trustworthy too, though I dont agree with his tank aggregator as he doesn't take into account replacing DR stats with health like was common and kinda needed in 4.0

>>161622941
>on 3 targets

yeah no shit the classes with better AoE healing have better HPS you fucking moron

>>161623706
Pretty much the same results except inquisitors are looking even worse.

Why can't the victorious side of the DvL war help defend the WB?

It would have been way more fun to have a mix of PvE with PvP now that PvP gear no loner exists.

Like if there was an announcement where the boss would spawn and then battle would ensue to claim the kill.

There would be a division of responsibilities like half of each side would have to commit to trying to hold aggro and heal tanks while half would try to gank the opposing side.

Missed opportunity desu.

>>161624006
it's 3 cause in the average pve encounter it's a safe assumption that's how many you'll be able to maintain full effect on. even in raids it's unlikely youll actively be healing more than 3 at once averaged out over the fight, any burst on to more targets is balanced out by focused healing later.
It's not the be all end all rating of the dif healers but the gaps only get wider past 3 targets, and they don't shrink as much as you'd think going down to 1, at least based on previous rankings and information from prior expansions.
What would be useful to know is like a max burst over 10s, like potential output in small windows instead of the constant.

>>161624173
>world PVP existing after focuses

l o l

>>161624403
make it instanced then

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>Travel to Hoth

Oh my god, professor fat fuck still won't shut up about the angry furball.

I wish they'd fix that already.

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>>161624784

>>161623286
makes perfect sense! if you are on crack

>>161624784
>this meme is still a thing

damn

you niggas really don't forget anything

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>>161623736
don't cut yourself on that edge bro

Those 4 classes were the most fun IMHO.

You happen to like other classes. Good for you. Now go piss up a rope

>>161624869
>that moment when you realize a Star Wars alien species was created based on the looks of a snoutless chihuahua

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>>161625292
I think he means worst in terms of performance senpai, not 'f u n'

>hundreds of crates turned in
>still can't get the one headpiece I want
Serenity now!

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>>161626110
insanity later!

HA

So when does access to kotet start for people without early access? Sometime tomorrow?

What are the best pvp classes right now? I always enjoyed Swtor pvp even though it was an afterthought

>>161625292
>4 button rotation
>fun

ok mr literal retard

>>161627769
9 am cst

Are classic commendation vendors not a thing anymore?

>>161628376
not since 3.0 my man

IS THERE A HIGH HEEL FEET SLOT ARMOR YET?

FFS MY TWI'LEK SLUT WOULD BE COMPLETE WITH SOME BLACK STILETTOS!

>>161628715
there are some boots that have a slighter higher heel but thats about it

>>161628715
Can't go wrong with gogo boots.

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>>161626868
what armor set and crystal is that?

>screwing around in character create
>female zabrak horns 15 and 16 switch places on the slider depending on certain head types
One of the strangest bugs I've seen.

>>161629149
Which ones?

>>161631041
seen em around on fleet every now and then, they arent that much higher, like not even approaching mens heels from the 70s

>>161631368
Sounds like its better than nothing

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>>161613009
It gets better!

Scorpio and Arcann are next.

>>161629575
Head - Glorious Charnel Mask
Chest - Opulent Triumvirate Body Armor
Gloves - Opulent Triumvirate Gauntlets
Belt - Opulent Triumvirate Belt
Pants - Cassus Fett's Greaves
Boots - Opulent Triumvirate Boots
Wrist - Cassus Fett's Wristguard

The Crystal - Black-Yellow Color Crystal. It is only +4 Enhancement - It comes with the Founders Kit. It looks great with this outfit which is why I use it.

>>161631445
do you have to kill senya to kill arcann?

my life is pain

>>161616950

>Saresh
>Friends

>People who she blackmailed
>Not ecstatic about her being locked up in unknown space

She may be dangerous political creature, but she lost all her accumulated capital when she attempted the coup. She would no doubt recoup if she got the opportunity, but at that point in time she's pretty harmless as long as she's locked up securely

>>161631704
She's also completely harmless if she's a corpse

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>>161631630
Yes

http://dulfy.net/2016/11/29/swtor-kotet-story-chapters-guide/

>>161631704
You actually get a mail after you kill her from the current Supreme Chancellor who privately praises you for it even though because of his position he had to publicly shame you for it.

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>>161631704
Even if you are not sith you should know leaving a dangerous foe alive will always come back to hurt you

In kotfe, Valkorion mentions that Ziost changed everything and implied that he was substantially different from himself as Vitiate. This is never addressed in kotet, is it?

>>161633000
Nah, he's just bullshiting you. He goes back to Full Retard Vitiate Mode at the end.

>>161633192
good stuff

Any old companions returning, or none?

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These walker battles are AWESOME!!!!!

>>161633192
let me guess, they didn't even bring back based Doug Bradley to voice him

Tell me.

Quinn.

Why can't I space or skewer that traitorous bastard?

>>161634386
Because it was during launch time and people could not comprehend they'd be without a healer before they killed him, whined about it, BW removed ability to kill companions.
You might be able to do it at some point now that they allow for killings.

>>161634570
>bioware revising existing content

rofl

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>>161634062
None .

Who knows they might surprise us.

Lana is looking better then ever even if she is pragmatic

>>161634597
I meant you can kill them now, in KotFE/KotET

I've already killed Tanno FUCKING Vik, Xalek, Kaliyo and will also dispose of Vette, Quinn and Corso whenever I get the chance.

>>161635031
>l also dispose of Vette,....and Corso
But WHY?

>>161635091
Not him but Corso is a major asshole and a pathetic cuck. I would kill him in a heartbeat.

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>>161635091
Vette is an annoyance and has been such since day 1. Enough is enough.
Corso is a fucking white knight and I've grown tired of sleeping with everyone except him.

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>>161635031
V-Vette? Why? She is so cute!

>>161635625
Vette has to go out an airlock. I would shove Mako and Risha out with her.

What does /swgg/ think about the uprisings

>>161635031
What's so bad about Vik? I have yet to complete any of the Republic class stories besides Smuggler's, they are all so fucking meh.

>>161635625
just because shes cute doesnt mean she isnt an annoying cunt. All of her negative qualities can be outweigh her positive ones in a heartbeat. I am finally glad we get the chance to kill that uppity little bitch.

Torian may be a mando, but at least the mandos you know will honor their deals.

>>161638132
Stems from the old days where you actually lost affection with companions over answers they don't approve of.
Vik is a loose cannon and gets offended if you just say 'hi' politely to your commanding officer.
Trooper is meh and Consular puts me to sleep. Rest is ok.

Holy shit, they seriously took away all of the Assassin's lightning skills. That was half his fucking aesthetic for me.

>>161639183
Same here famalam. Now only specs with lightning are darkness (depredating volts which is now at 10 instead of 58), and Deception, (ball lightning unless they changed that as well.)

is this worth playing f2p?

>>161639367
What's worse is they didn't even replace them with anything. Do newer players just start out with one attack now and have to wait several levels for their next skill?

>>161639580
No, unless you like being reminded you're poor scum by the game every now and then.
Also, you don't get any expansions either.

>>161639721
Only one way to find out.

I will get back to you

>you don't get vanguard/pt charge until 59
god damn, bioware