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Rest in peace, sweet prince

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2nd for taking on pirates where they live!

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>I'm 400 Ly away from dream ship
I'M COMING

>>161155881
o7

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>implying SC is ever coming out

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Shooting sandniggers when?

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>>161155881
I got mine A rated this morning.
Sweet Fer-De-Lance-chan

>>161155937
the pc term is sand google

>>161150502
Not so much half-way as the right way. Ships will have as many npc as they have room, the npc are needed for player to teleport in at will.
Only prize ship like the Bengal or that Cruiser won't since they can't be bought
Npc will need to work for us to get a game (SC or SQ42) anyway, so it's only a question of game balance
Make sure NPC death is penalizing and you won't abuse them.

>>161150997
So far, 90% of the people I've seen questioned
a) want to fly Idris/Jav solo to have mindless fun
b) want to keep it away from trolls (there is support for the PvE sliders)

>>161151318
>Since when have dads been FOR player interaction or agency?
The way I heard about them they want immersion (and VISION) even if it mean taking hours to do the stuff.
I can see preventing one man army (cause npc don't count silly) and needing to physically retrieve their crew sound like a wet dream for them.

>>161156975
A large population of dads play in Solo only because to them a player could ruin the "immersion" by doing something that wouldn't "fit".
Its really fucking backwards logic.

>>161156975
When you see PvP lover asking for player to never be safe outside of base, I kind of understand dads thinking
Disconnecting during battle is shitty game design, but never be able to disconnect as well.

Currently have a Freelancer MAX but I have a Prospector upgrade sitting in the hangar gawking at me. Do I do it or wait?

>>161157612
I'd wait until the Freelancer variants are reworked and mining mechanics + the Prospector are in.

>>161156975
Other then the fact they said there wont be an NPC for every slot just enough to hire for a larger ship to function, sure they will give you nav,copilot,radar,engine npcs but dont ecpect a free hand out for every single turret and dropod and seat.

>>161157557
I fly a combat ship but I play in Mobius because I was tired of interdictions, ganks and just outright fire without hail whenever I would try to do a CG or get anything done with friends.

>friend gets the game
>try to teach him how to play, on Eravate
>get attacked by A rated FDL three times (and him and I killed, because I was just flying an Eagle to teach him) until we leave for Mobius

Fuck Open, I'm glad Solo and Private Group exist. All my interactions in open have been overwhelmingly negative.

>>161157965
that is cause all the good people are carebears

>>161157965
Surprise surprise, when you have a system with no punishment for clogging people are pretty fucking aggressive. But in all seriously Eravate is the worst case, theres plenty of player-populated systems that aren't totally rife with shitheads. Eravate has been a shithole since the start.

>>161158815
Eravate was just the most infuriating one, that guy was killing a noob and someone trying to teach him how to play.
Lesson learned, play solo or private group only.

Also I've been attacked and killed when doing CGs on non combat ships plenty of times, including many times when I had no cargo.

People just want to attack players for no reason, fuck that. I just wanna chill in elite. Now that I did that 17 Draconis exploit and am gonna be flying an A rated Corvette and soon have engineers upgrades on it I'm gonna play in Open a bit more to see if people still try to attack me for no reason.

It's very easy to gang up and kill Sidewinders, Eagles and Cobras when you're on a Python/FDL/Fed Gunship.

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Is there an ETA for when Elite will become a good game?

Will it ever be a good game?

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Havent played in a couple months. This seems new.

>>161159489
Three or four years when all base game features are out and are only 60 dollars extra in total

>>161159707
>when all base game features are out

anyone wanna take a guess as to how the dads are going to gut and strip out all the fun out of this features?

>>161159683
Yes, White Dwarves have those jets now. Neutron Stars now have proper visuals as well now including have jets like that, except a Neutron Star's jets are rotating.
Pulsars are also in which are a type of Neutron Star whose jets are spinning so fast they appear as really vibrant cones.

>>161159683
>>161160161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQDteEISQG4

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>>161159683 again.
They finally patched out the "launch then quit to the main menu" exploit? fuck this game.

New to ED.
I have a mission to destroy some Carpuli Company ships, and it says to check conflict zones in system, but all conflict zones are classified as high intensity and only have imperials and system defense forces.
Where should I look?

I cant get my hud to change color for the life of me, i never had an issue before, but im not sure i ever even tried doing it when it was installed from steam, what am i doing wrong?

Also what should i equipt my sidewinder with for draconis 17? i saw one guy say dumbfire missles and something else, but i forgot and cant find the last thread

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I have My Retaliator back, all is right with the world. Used my store credit, Buccaneer and 30 bucks.

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Anything I could modify during the last day of the sale today? Thinking about melting something for the BMM because noncombat ships are hot shit, but it would probably overlap with the Starfarer to some degree and the Hull D.

>>161162023
Someone else that still holds hope the retaliator won't be the bastard child it is now

>>161162293
>sh AND sabre
>85x AND dragonfly
>herald AND terrapin

Choose one of each, these are all doubling up.

>>161162469
Also
>sabre AND superhornet


>>161162386
Wait for armor to be added, it'll be a tank

What would be the smartest and cheapest upgrade/purchase for an aurora LN owner? I don't have more than $35 to spend on this.

>>161162469
Sabre is part of my game pack and the Hornet is upgraded from a referral reward Gladius and can't be melted, so I can't really do anything about either of them. Plus I have the F7A kit, which is confirmed to be the Mk. II skin. 85x is just an LTI token I'll probably melt for store credits at some point just to have it in my rebuy list. Also yeah, there's some overlap between the Herald and Terrapin, but they still have somewhat different roles and I really like them both.

>>161161853
Whether their Imperial/Federal/System Defense depends on the superpower the faction they belong to is owned by. Your Faction is in there its just either the Imperial or System ships.
Although if you're new I'd stick to Low intensity.

>>161162867
If nothing else Terry the Turtle will make a great hangar queen

>>161162867
Don't put the F7A kit on a non-LTI hornet. That kit is selling for $110+ currently on the trading subreddit

While playing games, I like to watch movies/series that fit the genre on my second monitor; Waterloo while playing Europa Universalis, Rome when playing Total War etc.

Are there any /scg///edg/ approved moving pictures?

>>161162906
Yep, I lasted all of 5 seconds.

>>161163160
Cowboy Bebop

>>161163160
the Expanse

>>161162386
>>161162553
My hope is that the armor, the new higher speed and stripping out a couple of the least useful turrets, and popping in cargo bays will make it a rocket of a blockade runner/hostile space transport.

Also Im thinking that the Dropship module and a cargo bay will make it a good transport and resupply ship for an infantry raiding party.

>>161163160
Mass Effect 3

>>161163160
Firefly

>>161163141
That's certainly tempting. If I found a buyer I could take the profit from that and craft the 85x and Cutlass into a BMM. Not sure if it's a good idea to primarily run high-end ships though. Having something medium and supposedly cheap like the Cutlass might be nice. Plus the rework is looking good and I'm not sure if I want to sell the F7A kit, considering we don't know how hard it is to get ingame. The Mk II Hornet looking great doesn't particularly make me want to sell it either.

>>161163160
Star Wars: The Next Generation

>>161161194
What was that "exploit"?

>>161162770
Depends what you want to do. LN seems like an ok combat-leaning starter.

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>>161163945
>playable piano
holy shit I forgot this thing even existed

>>161162770
Either stick with the LN or go for the Avenger Titan.

>>161164081
you would think at this point it might actually be cheaper to just make a real grand piano

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>>161157085
Are you sure it's not just because E:D is extremely punishing ?

For some guys here seeing too many Idris and Jav would break their immersion, and if making them ridiculously costly don't work because SC have too many korean grinder, they'll want arbitrary rule so only Org can do anything with them.
You do have whales who buy ships for their Org as a sort social status.
Stupid logic as well but as long as the game isn't out we are all riding expectations. I fear the wave will crash hard

>>161157829
The plan is to have as many people on board as there is room for them, it's needed to have as many player agentsmith in.
It don't mean 1 person per turret but other than server capacity there's absolutely no reasons not to have as many npc as the ships' beds fit.
You don't expect a player to solo/soloboard an Idris any more than you expect npc to fight equal against players.

If it turn out players suck against AI CiG will just dumb them down, problem solved.

At what time do the sales change every day? I wanna buy my ships and get some sleep.

>>161164727
in 2 hours and 30 mins

>>161164591
I don't think you fully understand how much real grand pianos and digital organs cost, especially for the actually good ones that do what that one's supposed to. It gets fucking nuts.

>>161164858
i was joking because people say the same thing about star citizen itself

>>161164848
Thank you.

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>>161165123
Oh. Yes. I suppose I should've realized.

>>161164286
>>161163857
I want to fly around the universe in my cozy ship doing odd jobs here and there. I want to be able to walk around and chillax on my ship even like I'm flying the ebon hawk or millennium falcon. That's my dream tbqhwy

>You can jump away without having a target in SC
How are space battles even going to be a thing? No one would ever stay in an engagement they wouldn't win

>>161165848
SC is an actual alpha not all the features are in yet.

>>161165848
>How are space battles going to be a thing?

You can do the same in ED, so how are they a thing? The answer is that it may be reworked because still in development, escaping will be easy like ED, or that tractor beam, interdiction will be used to prevent people from escaping.

>>161163160

Farscape

>>161165647
Millennium Falcon-like you're looking at upgrading to something larger, which is going to cost money, like a Cutlass, or Constellation.They also come with turrets, and are multi-crew ships.

The Avenger interior is pretty small, but it has more of an interior than the Aurora or the average single-seater fighter. Consider the Mustang Beta too, it's like a camper van. Might be the cozy you're looking for. You shouldn't need to decide today, all those ships are on sale/CCU-able normally.

300 series is due a rework as well, it might get more comfy. There are the Reliants too.

You can rent most of these and try them out.

>>161166487
Currently, I'm eyeing that Herald. I tried out the reliant and avenger already and I'm really liking the avenger. Was just curious if it's really my most cost-effective option for what I want and/or if there's any neat deals for ships later today.

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Any suggestions on a final destiny for my 85x? Leaning towards a Lancer D for solo touring with a dragonfly in the hold. That's a SH btw.

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>>161166849
As always, my recommendation is to not upgrade until you've flown the ship you're upgrading from. That said, the Freelancer is a pretty good ship, but I have a soft spot for the multi-role and more combat oriented nature of the Cutlass.

>>161166849
Melt the Carrack and SH and buy two more Merchantmans, sell them ingame and spend the credits on a Polaris

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Drake Interplanetary Capital Ship when? Pirates need their Capital.

>>161166650
I've got the Herald.

If you're going with a Herald just keep in mind that those 'odd-jobs' you'll be doing won't include cargo hauling or space combat since it's got 0 cargo room and lackluster hardpoints compared to others. But you will be able to do data moving which might just be a different kind of cargo.

Besides that, if you're set on being alone in there, I'd point you towards a Hull A or Hull B if you plan to stick with hauling over combat, or a Reliant Kore if you still want some combat, or the Reliant Tana if you want more combat than hauling but still want both.

But from what I've heard from Reliant owners is that they're in a pretty bad spot right now, so keep that in mind.

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>>161166650
Fuck, it, I'm not normally one to jump on the avenger titan memetrain (pic related) but it's p comf and in your budget. I don't think there will be any deals you can take advantage of today though. Herald is slightly out of your budget at a $50 LN-Herald CCU, and it seems like a more specialised, less generalised ship, and nobody's flown it yet in the general population. More risky.

>>161166687
>Here is the orginal Stuka siren of the StuKa Ju 87
>It's actually just from The Wall

>>161167476
unless you REALLY want the FBI meme-skin version of the CARGO HAULER variant (even though it should be the Stalker) and a couple of hours worth of REC-grinding weapons (absolutely not worth it IMO)

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>>161167376
Not soon enough, but until then the Caterpillar with all four cargo holds replaced with dakka will probably make a decent gunboat.

>>161167792
>>161167476
>>161167435
Didn't they give away some ship for $0? That's not gonna come back today? Otherwise, guess I'm looking at the avenger or mustang B. I still want to be able to defend myself but I don't need anything too focused on any given style.

>>161167069
Thanks, the MM is still an 85x + token so i'll get to try it anyways but I bought the 85x's as LTI tokens. If a dragonfly does end up fitting in a cutlass then my decision is going to be much harder.

>>161167364
From your advice I take it the MM is going to be hard to acquire in the PU, or just much more expensive than now? I personally want to stay out of the cap-ship game otherwise I'd be up for that, might still be if it turns out to be super lucrative

>>161168196
The cutlass has holding and deploying a dragonfly as a specific requirement capability in the redesign, that is 100% going to happen.

>>161155645
finally a good commie

>>161168196
You need to get on good graces with the Banu to be able to buy a Merchantman from them, which is basically getting citizenship on one of their worlds. So pretty dificult as well as rare.

Is there any info about Carrack's scout ship ? Anything known at all ? I'm not sure if i`ll need 85x if i'll have it..

when i upgrade my normal 3 monts insurance starter pack to an x85 with LTI will i get LTI?
if yes, will further upgrades have LTI aswell.

normaly you keep the insurance level of the original ship but ive heard somewhere that you get LTI when you upgrade to an LTI ship

>>161168163
The mustang omega? yeah that was a kinda weird deal with AMD where it was given away as promo for a graphics card etc. It's functionally identical to the mustang gamma. Deffo won't be happening again and AMD are kinda pissed about it apparently.

>>161168748
If you have LTI, anything you upgrade to should also have it. If you don't have LTI and upgrade, you will not have LTI.

>>161168552
Fuck all but I'd imagine it would have QD
I wouldn't keep it, LTI on such a small ship as the 85x is probably pointless anyway

>>161168409
Didn't know that, glad to hear it.

>>161168536
Gotta keep a look-out for another sale now, glad I have the one at least.

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o7

>>161169656

I thought they banned that faggot?

>>161169656

literally who?

>>161169841
Ben Parry is a graphics programmer at CIG, formerly Frontier, you seem him spamming the Devtracker sometimes
dsmart is just some dude

>>161170032
Ben Parry also does some of the best Q&A in the ask a dev forums for SC.

>>161170258
That's what I meant by saying he's spamming the Devtracker

>>161169841
>>161169774
>>/somethingawful/

>>161169656
Is this recent?
Why would Smart still be saying players won't be flying to a planet and leaving and such?
He must realize the maps are divided into systems not planets by now right?
He's even said himself other games have done it first like Space Engineers and Elite.

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>using EMP's in vanduul swarm

>>161170479
He's got a dick so far down his throat he can't can't see past the ballsack, of course he's still spouting the same shit

>>161170562
Gotta be tactical against those artificially flimsy targets

>>161170452
But that's the ED forums.

>>161170767
and take out all players with you... i tried to kill that cunt but got kicked

>>161170775
He got banned and un-banned or something. This is either his second or third ban lmao

>impartial moderators

>>161171676
ED forums have a strike system, one strike 24h ban, second strike x days ban, third strike a month or so, fourth perma

>>161170612

Right now he's alienating more and more of his fans with his hate of the God Emperor.

>>161170562

Wait what happens if you use an EMP on vanduul?

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>>161172193
Everyone has a bad time

>>161172320
noob here, what am I looking at?

>>161172472
the little ship (Avenger Warlock) has an EMP and it tried to use it to disable the big ship (Starfarer), but it also disabled its own thrusters and crashed into it, killing them both.

Will they have the dragonfly on sale today?

>>161172614
Yus

>>161172614
Everything except the Polaris will be on sale today.

>>161172320
>EMP on Avenger is working

Holy shit, awesome.

>>161172796
And Vanduul ships and Idris M
And maybe 890?

>>161172732
>>161172796
Oh baby, my setup is complete. Just need to wait for the cutelass rework

>>161172919
Sure, sure, and scythes too... no.

>>161173124
almost fell for it

Which one of you retards was in the last thread arguing that if you're going really fast in space and you accelerate sideways inertia will kill you? Leave space games forever

>>161172919
Yes to all.
890's already been up for their Origin Jumpworks day, so yes.
It's now $890 too. :^)

>>161172606
Pretty cool last ditch revenge act though

It would be pretty satisfyin to EMP the shit out of a capship's shields and smash into the bridge

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>>161169656
I'm starting to wonder if Derek Unsmart is really a bad things for Star Citizen.

Anything he say on money is... well, not entirely nonsense, just keeping us on toe, and when it come to programing, game design and co, he is the apotheosis of the old school "developers" (bullshit I know) who downplay everything, dismiss stuff as impossible (even if he couldn't recode a Half-life to save his life), and Yet Cloud Imperium Game keep making the impossible true.

So all they have to do is do their work and Derek unsmart is free advertising of how great the project is (despite the continuous sales of jpeg).

Do you have more post from him ? I kind of want to avoid digging for his most funny errors.

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posting some DS because there's nothing else to do but laugh

>>161173501
I'm the guy who said that you could avoid collision with an asteroid with a milli-g rated drive. (if you start burning really far away)

You could die burning sideway... but it will be because you burned in "any" direction with an acceleration unsafe for human.

WHERE IS THE SALE?

>>161168498
>amerifats

>>161174483
>>161174483
an hour from now

>>161174524
6 minutes.

>>161174496
>pinkos

GRAND FINALE

>>161175103
Is not actually quite up yet. Or at least, I can't load the damn post.

The store page for the finale doesn't fucking work lmao.

So which one of you fuckers is DDoSing RSI website?

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Aurora-MR-SC-Starter-UEE-Warbond-Version

THE PACKAGE DOESN'T HAVE THE SQ42

FUCK THIS

>>161175363
It's me, I admit it.

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>DUE TO SOLAR FLARE INTERFERENCE, TODAY’S GALACTIC GEAR TRANSMISSION WILL BE SLIGHTLY DELAYED. CHECK BACK SHORTLY FOR JAX’S REPORT FOR THE DAY.

>>161175363
it's not a ddos it's just user traffic

>>161175415
3 month insurance only too.

>they really aren't selling the Polaris on the final day
Man, fuck you RSI, really. Fuck you.

>>161175573
:^)
TFW $625 LTI Polaris

Wait

How is this a sale?

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>>161175573

>no longer selling 350R CCU
>have to wait a whole year to buy it again
Good job, really.

>>161175687
Cool beans man. Wanna sell it?

>>161175707
Because all the ships that are typically not for sale are up for purchase, at significant upmarket, with diminished insurance plans. What do you not understand about the word "sale" goy?

>>161175707
$10 discount on starter package
Some insurance on others.

>>161175707
because things are for sale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WTvS6nSSvQ

>>161175809
Not a chance.It's worth $750 just as an upgrade token.

>>161175809
>>161175815
>>161175862
I guess I figured the cheaper ships would go on sale. Not the $350 ships going on sale for $275 or something.

will the mustang package be on sale or should I just grab an aurora?

wow banu slave

So I got an Asp Explorer, with everything on it rated at B or better exept my guns
I literally would need to pay 1.5 billion credits to pay off the insurance cost
What ship should I aim for next, for multi-purpose duties?

>>161175992
no mustang sale

>>161175921
Upgrade token?

>>161175992
It's Warbond version so unless you're dumping more cash into this to gift it to a friend, don't bother.

Or you're just getting started, in which case yeah, grab the Aurora.

>>161176091
As in I paid $625 for it, but If I were to upgrade it to a more expensive hull I would still count as a $750 Polaris, same with my Starfarer that I paid $180 for way back when, it's now a $300 hull and counts for $300 in hull to hull upgrades.

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Should bear in mind the cheapshit Aurora doesn't include SQ42.

>like a banu slave, I can only have hope for the future

wew lad

>>161175815
are they already all sold out?

they added more javelins for sale

>>161176184
You might want to re-check that anon. Pretty sure it's melt, and upgrade value is what you paid for it, and no more.

>Endeavor mods on sale.
>Tally mods not on sale.

>>161176293
>CIG
>consistent
Pick one.

I could find a starter package + sq42 for 35 dollars in black market. fuck this shit.

>>161176256
no,over 1k left

>>161176275
It's melt is what you paid, it's upgrade is the default hull cost, I am very certain and had made use of the difference to gain a few bucks in ship value several times.

>>161159094
kill Cobras on a Python/FDL/Gunship

Only one of those that has any chance of killing a Cobra-3 that doesn't want to die is the FDL, and even then not so much with G5 dirty drives on both ships because that widens the gap to 80-100m/s

>>161176385
so only the aurora without sq42 is on sale?
well fuck this then i thaught i could melt my mustang+sq42 package and rebuy it cheaper

Why do you care about sq42 so much,you'll prolly be able to pirate it

>Discount aurora packs
>Up to $35 this year and that's without SQ42.
Christ, those greedy motherfuckers. They're also cash only, but frankly this one of the few things where a cash discount makes sense.

>>161176619
Oh yeah, no. Warbond only sale, so fresh cash only, no credits anyway.

>>161176619
What would you do with a couple of dollars in store credit anyway


>>161176687
lolno

So which ships are going to go up in $ sale value and thus yield better upgrade potential in a year's time?

>>161156006
I was well on my way to my FDL, been a dream ship for a while. Started at 19m and an A rated Vulture. Sitting on 590m now and still have the Vulture. For some reason I thought I needed close to 300m for an A rated FDL with reserve cash for insurance, but I just built one on on coriolis.io and it came out to around 93m. At this point I'm saying fuck it and seeing how much money I can make before the civil war ends and I just have to find somewhere else to do this.

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>>161176690
>Greedy
>like half the price of a similar scope AAA game

>>161176713
buy weapons once the remove REC weapons from the PU

Anybody have suggestions for a good 200$> HOTAS

>>161176817
banu mm

>>161176876
>half the price of a AAA game
>and half the content
You're a wizard, Harry.

>>161163850

Kicks you out of the station when you log back in so you don't have to fly out of the mail slot yourself.

Basically an exploit only scrublord pilots would care about.

>>161176267
wow looks like they added 100 more warbond

>>161176898
TM T16000M FCS HOTAS
if they ever release it on europe

No origin racers in ship upgrade?

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>>161176860
>FDL
>dream ship

get ready for spaghetti looking route plotting because NO JUMP RANGE

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>>161177254

>>161174116
Just got though Ben Parry's post history
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/member.php/27895-Ben-Parry

>>161176860
Get it at a station that has a discount active, you could get it A rated for like 75 and your insurance will be permanently lower as well. Check BD-15 447, it's where I got mine

>>161159953
by making everything take forever, require tedious searching for random crap to access, cost a fortune, and continuing to nerf all revenue streams

Do I go for the reliant and upgrade to the reliant skirmisher?

Nothing will ever beat getting an Aurora LN plus Squadron 42 for $35-45

is there any way to buy squadron 42 as an addon to a game package?

>>161177769
yes

The fucking site is dead, 502 / 504 , spamming F5 on all of my 7 devices.

>>161159489
It's clearly not a game for you if you don't like it already.

>>161177710
Why, don't they cost the same?

will any richfag send me a starter package?

[email protected]

>>161177936
$10 difference I think?

>>161177992

buy it yourself commie

>>161178021
That's the researcher

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5eqmjt/galactic_tour_exotic_ships/daewijj/
This is actually interesting

>>161176940
oh yeah man, I forgot that big single player campaigns come for free with every MMO. Sorry about that.

Is it worth trying to go for a clipper if I've got a net worth around 40m, but I'm only master rank(at 89% though)?
I feel like by the time I do enough missions to hit baron I'll have enough money for a python at least

Neat, a discounted Starter Package after all!

>>161178076
pls

>>161177810
h o w

>>161177810
does it cost any less to add it or is it still 45?

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>>161177769
>>161177810
>yes

but how?

>>161177769

Step 1: Buy $45 Squadron 42 package, put $15 Aurora Package in your cart when it offers you.

Step 2: Wait 24 hours and melt Squadron 42 for $45 in store credits.

Step 3: Buy $45 Mustang Package, put $15 Squadron 42 package in your cart when it offers you (it will).

Step 4: Wait 24 hours and melt Mustang package for $45 in store credits.

You now have Aurora package and Squadron for $30 + $45 in store credits.

You spent $75 in total, but instead of having both games + $15 in store credits, you have both games + $45 in store credits.

>>161178442
It's literally listed on the game package/pledge page. Aurora MR Starter + SQ42, $15 more than just the MR starter. No, it's not on sale with a discount.

>>161178558
>is there any way to buy squadron 42 as an addon to a game package?
>as an addon to a game package
>Aurora MR Starter + SQ42

>>161177625
Will do, thanks. I might just be going for a Imp clip or Fed corvette at this point, so I'll definitely make the trip for a discount ship whatever I end up doing.

>>161176817
Bmm
reliant variants
Prospector
Maybe buccaneer

>>161179071
I have feeling that big industrial ones will as well, Orion, Reclaimer, Crucible maybe.

>>161178732
well yes sry that was poorly worded... I wanted to say SQ42 addon to this particular aurora sale but I think I will try my luck on LTI packages in the black market they seem even cheaper so yeah thx anyway

do you guys think SQ42 will go on sale closer to its launch?

>>161179420
It will jump in price once they show the vertical slice

>>161179420
$15 seems pretty damn cheap to me.

would I be able to play the game NOW if I have a -no alpha and beta access- package that I got fromt he black market but also a 50$ ship that I bought with money from the RSI?

>everyone trying to check RSI for the final day to see if the ship they wanted is listed in the sale
>it DDoS the site
>the ship i wanted isn't on sale, even tho all the other variants are

Give me the m50 upgrade CIG
This isn't funny

>>161179752
you can play if you have a ship package that says "star citizen digital download" in the contents

>>161179806
I woke up early for this bullshit too.

so this is the grande finale? fucking kek

Scam Citizen 101

guess I will just stick to "f2p" EVE

hoped for cheaper package WITH s42

>>161180294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ikpBr9_nQ

>>161180418
Guess you're just a greedy cunt then aintcha

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>buying ships

did previous discount packages came with sq42?

>>161180519
You dont get an other access to the game without buying atleast ONE ship

>>161180604
Yeah they're snipping the foreskin as development goes on

I guess they said they would

>>161180604
yes

>>161180604
SQ42 wasn't separate previously.

>>161180632
I have friends who would buy this game if they were just buying the game, actually.

One guy I know said it would be interesting to start with no ship. Just be on a planet and do FPS jobs, or join other ship owner's crews.

He'd absolutely buy SC access without a ship for $25-$30.

>>161180674
Frankly that was a horrible PR move to do. They should have waited till Sq42 was only few months off for it.

>>161180778
your friends retarded the mustang and aurora are free

>>161180869
>Horrible PR move

It's pretty much standard now to increase price as time goes on. So it probably didn't hurt them PR wise at all.

>>161180909
I get that it's included in the game price, but no they aren't, they have MSRP and upgrade value.

And it's less about the overall cost than it is about the "I'm buying internet space ships? lolnopay2win"

Which is also not really wrong. I got an MR and it's godawful. Literally a space turd.

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>>161180778
tell him to buy a starterpackage. wait till his 3 month insurance is over and then crash it

>>161155937
>implying they don't call them sandparrots as the equivalent derogatory term for Tevarin

>>161181131
It's played time mind you

>>161180778
Tell him to buy the Aurora package now and pretend it doesn't exist. This is a space sim, don't know why there are those select few people that are adamant on never using a ship.

>>161163160
Gay Niggers from Outer Space

>gamescon was medicore
>citizencon was meh
>this "event" total failure

hype is dead

Guys, can someone link me to the store item that adds SQ42 if you already have an SC game package? I can't find it, need it for a friend

>>161181093
>get something
>it has value
>somehow you paid for it now
he can sell it anyway or better yet upgrade it to a dragonfly

>>161181296
He didn't say "Never using a ship." He was talking about -starting- as a gun for hire until he could afford a ship. Poor man's start basically, not privileged white male spaceship owner.

And that's exactly what I told him: The starter ship is ignorable. Still, it's buying a ship.

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>>161180418

>>161181438
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Squadron-42-Standalone-Pledge

>>161181501
Did you tell him they're never going to let you buy into the game without a ship?

>>161181420
oh, come on. you only have to wait +3 more years for a bare minimum beta of the game.
you can do this ;)

>>161181540
>make ONE package cheaper
>it does not have s42

yo

>>161181689
No, because I don't know why.

>>161181689
source on claim

>>161181689
Well they might on release
Considering the end of SQ42 gets you started easier

>>161181501
>Hey man, I want to play Call of Duty, but I don't want to start with a gun, man, I want to just start playing as a completely unarmed civvie man, I just want to try to take down an operator with my bare hands man and really earn that AK and combat knife man. I ain't buying the game AND a gun man, fuck that noise

>>161181805
There is no source. But I can argue beyond reasonable doubt that they're not going to fuck with the possibility of giving people the game without a ship, without having to rely on others. Too much backlash. Millions of comments screaming:

>What the fuck, I bought Star Citizen and they didn't even give me a ship. What the fuck am I supposed to do? 0/10 Fuck this scam

>>161181818
I don't recall SQ42 giving you a ship. Just credits. And if you want to play SC, you need to buy SC. They've probably determined that the minimum viable way to play the game is through the Mustang or Aurora.

>>161181992
Heh, I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's not like what he proposed was unrealistic.

>>161182097
>There is no source.

o

>I can argue beyond reasonable doubt

no you cant lol

>>161182119
just get a mustang starter... its not like he'll be able to earn any money with that ship

Can I buy this discounted package+sq42 for 50$? I didn't see the option.

>>161182097
>>What the fuck, I bought Star Citizen and they didn't even give me a ship. What the fuck am I supposed to do? 0/10 Fuck this scam
So then they are buying a ship?
Pay to win!

That said, if they ever bother to release the game AND as they say, stop selling ships for cash, it becomes a moot point. At that point, it becomes buying a game that has space ships, rather than buying a space ship that has access to the game.

>>161182271

It can equip a cargo box like the aurora though, just not a big one.

>>161181992
>Hey man,i want to start at level 0,I want to earn my levels,fuck buying the GAME and a LEVEL

>>161182119
your friend is mentally challenged

why are you friends with him?

>>161182251
>This literal retard writing

Fuck off retard. They're not going to let you buy the game without a ship (Aurora or Mustang). End of.

>>161182312
The Aurora MR and Mustang Alpha will most likely be for sale well past the game's release. There's a reason why these two ships are called Starter Packages, because they're required to start the game.

>>161172803
has been for a long time

>>161181992
Did you also buy a wow account from ebay?

>>161182501
>he doesn't have mentally challenged friends
you are missing out

>>161182285
no

>>161182549
>no argument or evidence for shit you can't know and that they haven't said

End of? It never even began.

>>161182573
>tfw you buy a wow account but the only character is level 10

>>161182767
So where's your source saying they'll ever make it an option? :^)

>>161182549
Then here's an idea, stop selling Ships that have a game attached and start selling a game that has ships attached. Don't tell me the ships are free if they have MSRP and upgrade cash value, and can be bought totally separately from game access.

The way it's presented is a huge problem to anyone who wants to buy a fucking game. No one, literally no one would complain about buying a game that you start out with a space ship in, but that's not how it's presented and that's not what you're buying.

Why is it so hard to understand that this way of presenting things is retarded?

You shouldn't be buying "Aurora MR Package" but "Start Citizen" and the Mustang/Aurora choice should be a sidenote, secondary.

>>161182613
I can't
people who set themselves up for failure make me angry

>>161182829
>tfw you buy a wow account with a max level character
>It's blizzard who sold it to you
>Try the game again, it's still shit

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivq5icJnGXk

>>161182935
If you press the giant "FLY NOW" button on the front page of RSI, this is exactly what you're presented with.

But you just want something to complain about because you're a whiny cunt

>>161183002
Why should we watch this video that appears to have nothing to do with fucking anything?

>>161182853
I don't need to provide evidence for a claim I never made.

can i get into trouble when i change my billing address to a country with no VAT?

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>>161182549
If they're required to start the game then what happens if your last ship is uninsured and you get it blown up?

I agree they might sell those though, not many people will want to crew up or load holds or whatever the fuck when they want to fly around in space.

>>161182972
lel, LFG ruined it

>>161183180
you would have had 3 months to figure the game out

161183145
I'm not giving (You) a (You) any more. You saying that I'm wrong is claiming that the opposite is true. You're just a shitposter however, so you won't ever dare try to source your claims.

why do so many elite ships seem like they were designed by people who didn't know their scale? The lakon ships especially all have absurdly huge cockpit areas

>>161183002
are abos the furthest divergent of homo sapiens?

they look the least "human" to me out of all ethnicities

>>161183321
But if they put in missions for shipless players that wouldn't change.

>>161182935
Technically, you're not buying a game, you're donating towards the development of one and receiving goodies for that

>>161183543
geneticists recently found them to have high proportions of DNA that appears to be from one of the other human species that used to exist before we came to their lands as peaceful innocent refugees and culturally enriched their societies

>>161183062
Yeaaah, no one with half a brain sees it as buying the game. They press the "Fly Now!" button and it's "What ship do you want to buy?"

And for fuck's sake you dumb niggerbrain, I've already bought into the game, and have no problems with it. I do however understand the other point of view, and just screaming "You're wrong and retarded" doesn't change that point of view. It just makes you look stupid as fuck.

>>161183180
If they really did keep selling ships for cash, that would be a horrible mistake. Even if it was just Mustangs and Auroras for $5 (MSRP $25, what a deal!)

Shit, make getting a "used" Aurora cost all of one foot mission's credits. Doing a mission on foot with no ship is punishment for being bad and not getting insurance.

>>161183602
Can't argue that for all the ship and such purchases, but it doesn't convince someone that they're buying a game and that it's not just pay to win.

>>161183180
They'd probably borrow you a starter ship

>>161183782
>Even if it was just Mustangs and Auroras for $5

No, you don't understand. The Mustang and Aurora are going to be sold long past the game's release because they're the two starter ship options given when you buy the game. Imagine if ED gave you the choice of a sidewinder or Hauler at launch when you bought the game instead of forcing you into a sidewinder.

>>161183782
>Choose your ship
>OMG I THOUGHT I WAS BUYING A GAME

>>161183997
>>161184161
You seriously don't understand that it's all about presentation for some people?

Elite offering the Hauler as an alternative to the Sidewinder would be a perfect example of how to do it right.

Start selling SC as just SC, then offer them, in game, one ship or the other.

You can keep buying your Javelins, and when I tell someone "You should just buy SC already" I will really mean SC and not "An aurora"

All of my friends who have doubts about SC always reply with "I'm not buying a spaceship" because that is what you're buying, not a game, or game access.

But you all have your heads stuck so far up your asses you can't see anyone elses point of view.

>>161184547
Yeah bro it's us who are wrong,not your friends

>>161184547
they have that option
they can wait and buy the PU and SQ42 for 60 dollars each at release

>>161183384
have a (you) faggot who cannot into logical argument

>x will never happen
source pls
>they never said it but pls believe me
so you're just sharing an opinion
>YOU CANT CLAIM MY ARGUMENT SUCKS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST WAAAH
lol

There's a big difference between me pointing out the fact that you have no evidence for your claim and me making an opposing claim.

I never claimed they WOULD sell a shipless game package, because if I did, someone might oh, I dunno ASK FOR ANY KIND OF EVIDENCE OF THAT CLAIM.

And guess what? If I can't provide any evidence, then there's fuck-all reason to believe the claim, just like there's fuck all reason to believe you when you say they will NEVER sell a shipless package.

Do you believe in god as well?

>>161184760
I know I ain't buying shit at release.

This game has so much hype and wishful thinking behind it I'm going hold off for a while until I see plenty of ACTUAL gameplay and what the universe is like before I spend a cent on it.

>>161184760
You mean they WILL have that option. As far as we know. I just hope the presentation isn't shit. If they really do present it as "Which ship are you buying" there's a lot of people who won't give it a chance.

>>161184742
Bravo, 10/10, you've totally convinced me with your stunning argument and logical consistency.

>>161184898
that will be 3.0 in december 2016+1

>>161185261

>there's a lot of people who won't give it a chance.

Whew. Less autists. You are doing God's work Roberts.

>>161185469
>Irony

>>161184547
>Don't understand it's about presentation for some people

I get that. I just don't really care. It's not like I'm Roberts trying to get more money. Also

>All my friends always reply with "I'm not buying a spaceship" because that is what you're buying, not a game, or game access

Did you know that you can buy spaceships without actually getting game access? your friends are wrong.

>>161185563

That is the point. We have enough autists. We don't need more.

161184854
>X will happen
>Source pls
>No need for source, it's logical based on xyz evidence
>YEAH WELL YOURE WRONG AND IM RIGHT HAHA FAGGOT

Kill yourself, por favor.

you two, shut the fug up fucking autists

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>made $40 by selling something from my unmelts
>can effectively upgrade Cutlass+85X to a BMM for 60 bucks now

>>161185743
>it's logical based on xyz evidence

you missed out the part where you don't have any evidence

>>161185614
>Since ships don't come with game access, you're buying the game, not the ship that is primarily featured as the item to be purchased on this page.
You're right though, that may be a working argument if I find the right phrasing for it.
Do you think I can convince them I didn't buy a spaceship with a fancy paintjob, but a hangar poster that just happened to include the spaceship?

>>161185651
Nah, we could always use more autists, and people in general, in the game. More people to pirate from and watch sperg out.

>>161186108

>More people to pirate from and watch sperg out.

Boy are you going to be disappointed.

>>161186149
Oh, are the dads going to make sure everyone has a safe space and non-contact anti-violence bubble around them?

>>161186039
>Can get a bigger ship for more money

wow what a deal

>>161186108
>Do you think I can convince them

If they think they're buying a space ship first and game secondary, they're retarded and you shouldn't waste your time.

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>you will never stop goons from posting here >>161186252

>>161184547
All i knew about SC was that were people buying ships for hundreds of dollars.
Until i tried it out during free-fly

so what is a realistic release date for sq42?

>>161186480
They say next year

So spring of the year after

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>>161186386
faⅿ I want that lurking on SA back right now

>>161186372
It's literally what they're being told though.

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>>161186772
>Please note: Starter packages INCLUDE a ship

>>161177332
Point me to a pure combat spec ship that DOESN'T have piss poor jump range. Not everyone is a trade fag.

>>161178530
>$15 Aurora Package
it was $35 though?

>>161171842
But he was apparently "permanently banned" before but god unbanned

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>>161186480
From what i've heard, they don't even have a single mission done yet. I wouldn't really expect much until the flight model and fps stuff is finally "done".
If I was feeling optimistic, i'd say the end of next year or spring 2018

Should i do the half mil donations at draconis, or will it not help really in the long run, i mean there are still missions here and there that im not friendly enough or whatever with them to get them

Buccaneer + Cutlass Blue or Super Hornet + Cutlass Black ?

Those will be my only small ships, so i must choose wisely. Also i'm not really interested in combat, but i need to have something reasonable, in case i`ll have to help friends.

I'm not in a hurry, but i can only upgrade once. Currently i have Bucc + Blue.

>>161187995
wait im already allied with them... so maybe it doesnt matter anymore?

>>161188113
If you don't want to focus on combat entirely I'd go with the Hornet and the Black. Since the Black is multirole you could probably use it for salvaging and such to some degree and the Hornet carries a bit of cargo as well if you remove the turret.

>>161187995
More money doesn't get you much more experience.

>>161188249
I'd prefer to focus small fighter purely on combat, it`ll be its only role.
As for cutlass, i'm just not sure if i can remove cells on Blue so i could have dragonfly in there like on Black. If it's possible, then it might be the best option to keep Blue with bigger shield.

>>161187478
It's a special package only available when buying the standalone Squadron 42, apparently. Haven't tested it myself though.

>>161186947
Pointing out that tiny line doesn't change that the overall page/store impression is selling a ship that happens to include game access.

>>161188659
>Change that the overall page/store impression is selling a ship that happens to include game access

I don't know what else to tell you. You click Fly Now, it brings you to a page that says Starter Package, it tells you that your options are one of two starter ships. There's not much more they can do to make it seem otherwise.

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>>161186039
Actually, help me out here.
I have a Hull C, a C->D upgrade ($150) I haven't applied yet, 150 store credits and my $40 trade profits sitting on my paypal account. If I melted the Hull upgrade I could get a BMM and would still have $50 left. With my trade profits I could grab a Cutlass for example. If I kept the D I'd have to spend $60 extra to get the BMM. I definitely want to keep one of the Hulls.

So the question is if the BMM overlaps with the C enough to justify not having both and if the D could even be run properly (with a medium sized org) in early stages of the game.

>>161187479
no he wasn't

>>161189756

would fuck

>>161189756
Do they sniff quantum fuel too?

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>>161189756
i hope there is a trophy mount system for my ship's rec room

>>161189968
they stay inside their nests and masturbate scratchings of females

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>>161189756

>Space Japan got destroyed by Space Rome

The West wins again.

>>161189756
but what about female Tevarin.
This is important.

>>161190830
Anon those are clearly female
You might be gay

>>161190907
No, they're definitely male. Most specie's females don't have fancy crests or whatnot, it's more typical for the males to be the fancy ones in courtship.

So light fighters basically have no actual role in this game, correct?

As in you'd 100% be better off in every engagement with a Hornet or, better yet, a Sabre?

Currently have a Sabre LTI, Aurora Game Package & Sabre to Vanguard Warden Token worth 80$ in store credit.

/scg/, Should I just fully embrace comfy space adventure mode by getting a Herald, a Buccaneer and a Dragonfly in exchange for my Sabre & Upgrade token?

>>161189756
We have
>spaceturtles
>spacedogs
>spacebirds
>NO spacetentacles
ROBEEEEEERTS

>>161191697
Eh... Pretty much, with some rare exceptions.

At least until 2.6, in which case a Sabre is less than a SH due to nerfs. probably

>>161191720
You know you can only ever take one of those out at a time, since none of them can haul the others?

>>161191720
Maybe but LTI is probably more useful on more expensive ships as you'd expect the bill to be higher too

>>161191697
Light fighters might be good to let an org put more people in fighters (like credits for 4 mediums would be 7 lights)
But for 1v1 final destination these space sim games always have shitty lights yeah

>>161191720
>LTI buccaneer
>LTI Herald
>LTI caterpillar
>Game package aurora upgraded to dragonfly

This is the only real way to go.

>>161192876
>Caterpillar after price hike

Mad

Mad man

What're the best dog fighters right now?

>>161191914
spacedogs?

>>161193236
Super Hornet and Sabre

Protip it's the expensive ones

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This is my 'fleet' so far, only the Aurora MR doesn't have LTI.

I'm not planning on getting anything else but might decide to upgrade one depending on how I feel flying them.

The Herald is for my personal use and I have a friend that I pretty much always play games with that I'll have in the Terrapin with me probably, unless he's off being Jewish and I wanna try just setting up a listening post instead of moving around finding stuff.

The Carrack is my shipfu but at most I would only have 2 people I know irl (friend & sibling) to fly it with me and I don't have much in the way of disposable income so I'm not planning on getting it.
>/blog

Post poorfag fleets? https://raylehnhoff.github.io/SCFSD/

>>161193702
>$200 scout ship.
>Poorfag fleet.
M8, you could have a way more useful ship than that for 200 bucks.

>Buy two ships that are on sale
>Suddenly get inundated with clan invites even though I've never posted anywhere
How?

Who /upgradingalotof85xs/ here?