/scg/ /edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous General 94

>Thread 94

Weren't we on 180 something??

>>161049763
Last one was 93, anon.

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Also today's Galactic Tour video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vE6wrgZ3vw

Today's ATV is in the op.

https://imperium.news/elite-dangerous-much-immersion-leads-drowning/
more and more of these are appearing
what will we call it when we drive the dads back in to the sea?

>>161050181
What the fuck would it take to wake up Frontier anyway?

>>161050326
star citizen becoming an actual game and literally everyone going to play that instead, except for a handful of brain donors who think flying in a straight line for minutes at a time is great, and who want an MMO where you never interact with other people. This is not a large demographic

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>>161049968
I feel like the Gladius is more maneuverable than the Avenger while packing more modular armaments. The Avenger packs a cargo bay, however, and seemingly better armor, making it a more rounded choice. I enjoy flying both, but like the Avenger a little more.

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https://imperium.news/elite-dangerous-much-immersion-leads-drowning/

>But, of course, I’m probably wrong. These “realism” based, “immersion” based decisions are what’s going to bring players. The players don’t want to have fun, they want to have a job in space. They don’t want to interact with each other, they want to fly their spaceship in a straight line for minutes and sit back as their ship flies in a straight line for 45 minutes to Hutton Orbital and say “yes, I am a space trucker in real life now. I can feel it!”

>>161050015
>You rhye nal
What the actual fuck.

>>161050835
Ok but i do hope SC has some level of tedium and inconvenience just because it makes the world feel bigger. it's a part of what made vanilla wow good imo. also a part of what made people actually interact.

>>161050181
>>161050851
I actually posted this article on the forums

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/310684-Elite-Dangerous-too-much-immersion-leads-to-drowning

Come watch the Dads shit there pants.

>>161050993
I agree 100%, nobody likes "world" of queues and teleports. But endless stretches of flying in which you are literally just going in a straight line, not even touching the controls, and you just wait, is terrible. For all the shit about wanting to be space truckers, driving is at least somewhat engaging.

>>161051017
That was quick. They're already replying.

>>161050993
>Some level

Already has that, and they applied it properly. For example, want to go to Grim Hex station? Jumping there takes maybe 20 seconds at most. 10 seconds to jump to ICC probe, 10 seconds to jump to Yela. But to actually fly to the station hidden in the asteroids? It takes a couple of minutes to fly through the asteroid belt of Yela. That's how inconvenience should be addressed in video games. Because with that large player area, you can potentially set up other systems such as hauling routes.

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>>161051017
How dare you attract dad attention to a well written article from a fan decrying the biggest problems with the game. Now they're going to harass him into oblivion and it's your fault.

We're getting mechs, right?

>>161051487
Power Armor

>>161051017
>He doesn't like the game, I hope they tailor the game to us and not him

Why can't this faggot get drafted and die?

>>161051017
Why are these old men so afraid of human interaction and challenge?

>>161051017
jesus christ, is this the level of discourse on the frontier forums?
>how dare they voice dissent!

>>161052219
Pretty much. The forums are filled with subhumans. I don't want to ever get involved with SC's forums. From the carefully selected examples I've seen I can already tell they're subhumans too.

>>161052414
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/310662-No-Atmosphere
fucking jesus

>>161051017
This is a form of griefing

>>161051510
All we have to do is put a gun on top of that mining walker.
Bam
Battle Walker/Strider/Mech.

>>161052414
I regularly question whether ftroop or blizzard has the more insufferable fans.
It's one thing to like eating shit, but at the same time acknowledge you're eating shit and you could be eating not shit, but right now shit is the only thing available to eat. It's an entirely other thing to be in denial about eating shit which the dads are.

>>161051017
>Fucking dad's saying
>He just wants an arcade style game not a simulation!
No, we want to enhance the simulation by actually having meaningful interaction with other players throughout the game to give the galaxy a better sense of being alive and giving us more options.
But these fucking idiots somehow see that "detrimental" to immersion when it would only enhance it for anyone with half a fucking brain.

>>161053674
One of the first responses even pointed out that Elite is really arcadey and not really a simulation.

But of course that gets lost in the echo chamber and no one wants to or is capable of arguing against it.

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>>161053330
>Genuinely like what E:D offers
>Still think it could do with a multitude of QoL changes and improvements
>Game needs alot more options in interacting with the world and other players
>Everytime Frontier makes a good decision towards these goals its hampered because they still listen to these fucking dads on the forums
If they just gave them the finger and focused on making it a sim thats not tedious and has legitimate multiplayer elements they would be completely and utterly golden. I'm fully expecting these faggots to get Massacre and settlement assault type mission payouts nerfed because its good pay for the best thing about the game and actually requires risk for making money quickly (depending on your ship of course)
BUT NO WE CAN'T HAVE RISK AND REWARD. ACCORDING TO THESE FUCKS REPETITION AND TEDIUM SHOULD BE THE ONLY LEGITIMATE WAY TO MAKE MONEY
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>161053997
>ACCORDING TO THESE FUCKS REPETITION AND TEDIUM SHOULD BE THE ONLY LEGITIMATE WAY TO MAKE MONEY
This is honestly the most disgusting thing about dads.
It makes you the epitome of a fucking complete manchild when you think your way is the only right way and should be the only one catered to; every other way should be fucked over.
If FDev never takes the risk of losing this % of their playerbase by breaking the mold these fucks keep trying to enforce we'll be stuck in a stale mold indeed. I'm holding on to the hope that The Commanders is the big step in the right direction. Its something they've always said they want to add since the beginning, its the next expansion around the corner, and the dad's are already bitching about it while so far FDev has had no response to their bitching about The Commanders.

>>161053997
Elite is a game with amazing potential that is let down by questionable design decisions and terrible development practices.

If I worked for Fdev it would take every ounce of self control I have to not go off on the dads, telling them to stop defending our fuckups.

>>161053997
Game will keep me in because all the big boy changes of the next patch are to combat and will bring alot more viable setups to the table. I'm sure forumfags are already frothing at the mouth

>>161054612
>Go off on the dads

If I worked at FDev I would be putting all my effort into getting these terrible decisions reversed.

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>>161054719
>>161054612
If I worked at FDev I'd do BOTH
Tell them to fuck off and reverse the shit they influenced

>>161054832
>Both

Nah. Best thing to do would be to convince them that this is the best train of thought and keep them funding the game. Because at this point, they must be the only ones funding the game. Otherwise Frontier wouldn't be picking up other games like Roller Coaster Tycoon.

>>161054909
They evidently have all the funding they need from them. Get the rest of it from the players that actually want to pick up your game when you start designing the game for people who actually like fun.

>>161054909
>>161054992
Let all come full circle. The dads have funded FDev to this point and then some so far for E:D since they also have put out Planet Coaster
Planet Coaster has exploded as being the new and improved RCT, especially with big streamers like DansGaming getting really into it which is free advertisement to thousands. That has to be making them good dosh right now and isn't really a game that needs anything else added to it with how seamless the integration of the Steam Workshop is with it.
Focus efforts on E:D away from dads now with those dollarydoos.

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is there any current non-nerfed way to grind imperial ranks right now?
I've been trying stacked massacres for imperial factions but stacking takes forever now

>>161055427
Stacked Massacres is easily the fastest way still, with the occasional settlement generator or skimmer destruction.
Does stacking take forever? It went by relatively fast to me but combat is the only way I get lost in this game so my perspective may be a bit warped. Could depend on ship or how modded out you are.

>>161055564
I just can't seem to get the missions to show up. It doesn't help that depending on the type of station it can take up to a minute to open the menu and flip from open to solo

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Since I'm done ranting I have a question for SC folks.
As an E:D player SC is the thing I've always kept on an eye as the ship on the horizon I jump to if E:D never evolves from its current state when SC releases or is at least near completed. Right now I prefer E:D's flight model and combat pace but SC's is still very solid and is shaping to have more actual game behind it so that would be the main deal breaker to me.
The main question though is M+KB really as superior as people we're saying the other day? I personally use controller in E:D which works perfectly with some fast keyboard presses but from the reasons I saw M+KB seems like the way to go for SC because of how gimbals and lateral movement works. Will I need to adjust to M+KB if I want to be a serious combatant?

>>161055656
>I just can't seem to get the missions to show up
Thats odd, every warring system I go to usually has the factions at war offer 1-2 of them to start out and then they start offering them in droves with higher pay the more rep I get off of doing them. Could probably chalk it up to Mission Server fuckery unfortunately.

>>161055909
I've used a controller for SC it works ok, the controls do have a learning curve to them. I"m not sure if you will be the best pilot ever but you can be competitive.

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Forty-Forth for EVE: Online

>>161056143
>they nerfed the trial
Explain. I was going to at least give it a whirl because how could it hurt to do so when its free.

>>161055909
if you want to play a fighter as a space-plane, fixed guns work and should probably work better with stick, etc, as well as flying the very large ships i imagine would be comfy with a stick

but SC is omnidirectional movement. unless you want to add several modifier keybinds to allow these movements to be possible on stick, it's not working too well for you. youre removing half of your mobility options by flying most ships with stick.

aiming wise, it's a matter of comparing a f18 flight sim with fixed guns to a FPS where aiming can be as fast as your mouse allows. gimbal mounted guns instantly move with your mouse and allow for free aiming while moving your ship seperately

TLDR, yes, m/kb user has the advantage currently unless they nerf gimbals to the point where fixed guns are the only option. and then they still have more intuitive mobility control.

>>161056143
On one hand I like what they're trying to do. Hopefully more players will rejoin for frigate fun and breathe some life back into it.
On the other hand as a former 2007 player with access to pretty much every ship, being limited to battlecruisers just seems too restrictive for my taste. But then I spent most of my time in a covops, or my prowler.

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>Even the livery panders to the dads with the sheer amount of them available for the Cobra and ASP E
I just want an FDL body kit Frontier. You made a good bit of the Vulture one look good which I wasn't expecting so I want to see what you could do with an FDL.

>>161056143
when does eve online gameplay become a MMO and not this weird space point and click RTS i've been playing for a few hours?

>>161056190
you can F2P indefinitely but many skills are limited now, like you can only pilot ships of the race your clone is now

>>161056190
It's not a real nerf.
The trial now is pretty much just a free account that's a bit more limited than the trial used to be. Though at the same time not really because there is no way anyone would have the SP to properly fly the best ships the old trial would allow in 2 weeks.

>>161056001
I went to a station where the imperial faction is in control, and here they're handing massacres out like candy. go figure

>>161056190
Reduced skill training speed, trial account skill list is significantly smaller, level cap on most skills
Basically, trial accounts can't train out of a shit income

The old trial account only lasted 27 days, but you could earn enough ISK to buy a PLEX during that
It takes a longer than that with the new system, significantly longer if you aren't]t killing yourself inside
But you aren't limited to 27 days, and your limited skill list has most of the essential PvP skills available
So the new trial system gimps players harder, but is more player friendly

>>161056417
When you start doing shit with other people instead of doing tutorials and mining by yourself.

>>161056417
As soon as you start taking advantage of the chat box

The skill training being a harsher timegate than the economy is kind of weird, but
> this weird space point and click RTS i've been playing for a few hours?
no idea where you've gotten that impression, you certainly haven't been a Fleet Commander

>>161056415
I may be an entitled millennial but I feel like Lifetime pass holders should get a monthly skin stipend.

>>161056570
so it doesnt get any better than clicking things and waiting for stats and %'s to sort out results?

i see how it could get interesting with large fleet combat... This "gameplay" tho

>>161056773
It would depend on what you consider lifetime. Because Horizons being a Season Pass didn't start out as being a Season Pass it was an entire edition of the game that even existing players originally had to buy into to access.
Eventually it obviously changed but like I said it would depend on which point in time FDev would consider life time it'd probably be the poor sods who actually paid $60 again

>>161056812
To be honest, most of the game is shooting the shit with corp mates in IRC while barely focusing on the game in the background, while you have something else to do on the other monitor.

>>161057140
Pretty much this. It's not exactly engaging, but damn is it comfy.

>>161050851
This why I will never buy Elite: Egg Timer in Space.

Did Coriolis fuck up the stats or is those resistances real. I can't imagine the difference between a 4D and 5D is 60 integrity and 17.5% of resistance to everything. Especially since its a Size 4 vs. Size 5

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>>161057454
Forgot pic

>>161057454
>>161057537
Those are 100% fucked up stats. You're not getting resistances like that without Engineer tuning.

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>>161050993
That's the wrong line of thinking that led to angers, anger that lead to becoming a dad.

Take Idris filed with npc, everybody fucking want it and it have been confirmed so player can teleport into a npc body without the hassle of an actual queue,

what you want is convenience that don't look stupid, like needing to do 10 trucking missions to amass money rather than 1000 because VISION

>>161058964
>10 trucking missions to amass money

and then what? Normal players reach their goals quickly and hardcore players reach them in a flash and thats it. Nothing else to do. No accomplishments when everyone is driving around in an idris in month 2. Some level of difficulty and time consuming tasks is a must.

>>161058964
achievements have to be progressive. high end items must take MONTHS for them to be worth something.

>>161058964
I'm just saying if you make things too quick and easy it becomes more boring not less.

>>161058964
Nobody wants dad level shit. But if you make things TOO easy to obtain thats even more boring.

>>161057537

Somebody misplaced a decimal point. Class 4D HRPs have 2% resistance, not 20.

20% resists would require a godly roll on a grade 5 heavy duty mod in both primary and secondary effects.

>>161059123 >>161059276
Don't confuse progression and mindless grind.
You want to do trucking until you are satisfied with the gameplay and wish to do something else.
Change 10 by whatever you think fit but if at the 10th route you only do it because you are forced to grind, it mean the balance is fucked up

>>161059313
Again quickness isn't the problem
Waiting 10 hours to load cargo or to gather a crew is realistic but pointless. The only things you actually want is to have fun doing that so you can dismiss the 5 minutes cheat and think fondly of the hours of what was interesting.
The only reason to keep travel time to a minimum for example is to profit of the on-board stuff (and we will love npc doing the boring stuff for us)

>>161059439
I agree of course but there's easy and there's fake difficulty
ex : you want an epic mission to get a super-weapon, but you don't want it to be only available on night of red full-moon with a drop rate of 1/100th just because it's technically difficult.

>>161060485
people are going to create their own grind, if x activity makes the most money, they are going to do it repetitively in order to be competent unless everything gives the same amount of money/rewards in which case people WILL grind the easiest activity

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>>161060740
> people are going to create their own grind, if x activity makes the most money, they are going to do it repetitively in order to be competent unless everything gives the same amount of money/rewards in which case people WILL grind the easiest activity

And so what ? You would make the easiest activity take 100h to make enough money ? That's the thinking at the cause of E:D vision.
You don't want it to take a month to get high-end items, you want the player to have so much fun that they don't even want to speed rush to "the only thing fun".

You only have things take time if it's directly correlated to how much you appreciate it (you can't have a nice animation seating into your fighter if a click teleport you into it, but it mustn't take too long as well)

It's not my place to tell CiG their job but what you describe is why you make economy fluctuate and 80% NPC controlled. You want the player having fun going to the Market Center with a suit, immediately identify what make money or lead him where he want and do it.

> pict unrelated

>>161061460
>100h
Enough money to what? Enough money to get low tier items? no its too much. mid tier equipment maybe. Godlike equipment not a chance. The progression needs to escalate.

> you want the player to have so much fun that they don't even want to speed rush to "the only thing fun"

thats just a dream that can only be accomplished if the highest tier activities are less rewarding than lower tier ones

there are plenty of games that offer instant gratification, an mmo isnt.

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>>161060740
Dog Fighting is fun?
Shooting the space mans isn't fun?
Finding cool shit isn't fun?
Running an org isn't fun?

Fuck off back to Elite, Dad. Chris Roberts said there wont be progression or a +1 enchanted space ship to own.

>>161061914
I am going to give you 1 chance to reword your post without exaggerating. When are capable of replying in a rational manner then shot me another message.

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>>161062091

fuck off, Prof. Dad.

>>161061914
>Chris Roberts said there wont be progression or a +1 enchanted space ship to own.
Anyone who thinks this is bad is a fucktard
Progression was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
having "Make numbers and bars get bigger" as your primary motivator is the cancer that killed MMORPGs
The draw of an MMO should be playing with other people. Having adventures and doing things in a big wide world with a bunch of other people you can make friends with and/or kill. Grinding to 'get to the endgame' is a pointless waste of content. There shouldn't be a grind and an endgame, there should just be a fucking game.

>>161062225
>>161062225
kek

>>161062430
>Progression was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.

Nice opinion you got there. I guess it can be backed up by the enormous amount of no grind mmos out there such as.....

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>>161061673
arbitrary number for rhetoric purpose, it's surprising but none of us can instantly imagine a working balance.
ex :
A Hull-A doing legit trucking would take 1000h gathering money for an Idris, but 50h doing high-risk contraband flawlessly
Meanwhile a Hull-E doing legit trucking would take 50h but could be hill suited to contraband (can't pass a small jump gate)

> thats just a dream that can only be accomplished if the highest tier activities are less rewarding than lower tier ones

Let me raise your hope then, SC don't have tier leveling, a player in an Idris or Javelin don't have the same sort of fun than one in a fighter or an Prospector, and a prospector don't have the same priority with an Orion.
Big ship don't have to be less rewarding, they just have to cost more to operate.

MMO never offer "instant gratification" because most are paid with a subscription, they literally live of any time you waste and they keep you addicted by your emotional attachment to the stuff you spend hours grinding for (And there's a lot of power-leveling to hide that it's the same shit every level).
"instant gratification" is a pejorative buzz word for cheap phone game who have to be catchy.

You have been poisoned for too long is you think grind is the only way to play a game, Star Citizen is popular because it promise to stray away from that.

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Just a reminder

>>161062430
>having "Make numbers and bars get bigger" as your primary motivator is the cancer that killed MMORPGs


One of my biggest complaints about Fallout 3. Once they made the move to a FPS engine why do they need the XP bar? Why not make the setting and world really interesting? Stalker and Metro 2033/Last Light were good games that didn't have a stupid pen and paper advancement system unnecessarily strapped to them.

>>161062876
but you do realize a lot of people enjoy the leveling system in the fallout games

thus the reason it is still being implemented

>>161062869
What about CIG? Need same pic about them.

>>161062782
well then you do as you want

if you want to just go and have fun with multiple fun activities thats great but dont expect to get the same rewards as the player whose end game is being efficient and amassing wealth by doing whichever activity is more profitable

because there WILL be high end highly sought after things wether it is an lti scythe or building the highest reputation with a certain faction

>>161062869
>Glassdoor

>>161063016

Okay, that system had a place in the older games (1&2). Because it wasn't the player pointing the gun and pulling the trigger I get that. But, lets talk about #4, the one where the neutered the leveling system where some people complained that skills were removed entirely replaced by perks. You think that they could have just removed all of that from the game and make it about what type of equipment and weapons you were packing instead of skills and perks?

Fallout 3 =/= Fallout 4

>>161063160

From what we know there is only so much you can do and earn with a single operator ship. Eventually, you will have to get something intended for a crew and the game will change for you at that point.

How the fuck did this become about grinding. original discussion was about how if an activity doesn't take a decent amount of time to complete it gets boring and feels meaningless. You don't need any fucking xp bars for that.

>>161063209
yes they could have but people like perks and progression

even cod and minecraft have them because thats what most people want and it is a fantastic way to keep people playing your game

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>>161061460

>>161063434

COD baked them in after a while and so did Minecraft. I remember when Minecraft was just lego simulator. Minecraft still has creative mode! Call of Duty used to be just about shooting the mans, also no XP bullshit in the single player and if you go off Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw opinion that's all that matters.

>>161063160
You certainly won't take on a Vaandul fleet with an Aurora (Operation Pitchfork will be fun), but you won't take on an Idris, even filled with npc, with a Super-hornet no matter how high-tier equipment you put on it.

Same as what I said for Trucking reputation building isn't a problem as long as it's fun all along and not DADS' VSION.
You shouldn't be forced to grind rep point until you can at least "play right", you should be getting reputation with a faction because it's fun to.

Said another way, a game shouldn't start getting good at the endgame.

>>161063397
Because meaningful = grind in the eyes of a dad.
You have Korean grinder on one side and you have players with a family who can't play 10h per day to grind for a Javelin, even wasting 1 hour to physically gather crews is pointless if you can teleport at will into npc crews and get the same result

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This is my current fleet, what else should I buy while the sale is on guys?

>>161064525
Friends to crew them for you.

Please stop using words that you don't understand. It's embarrassing. If you feel like putting other people down and making yourself look like some super 'hardcore' gamer, at least come up with something interesting.

Let's go over what "Dad" means, in these threads, which unfortunately have to be shared with E:D posters.

"Dad" is the equivalent of an older, slower-paced gamer who play Elite: Dangerous. They are the type of people who like "grind". They want to take 1 hour to travel from A to B, and they vote against shortcuts, as demonstrated in the last community poll.

A "Dad" does not hate grind. Do you understand?

The next time you call someone "Dad" for wanting to skip something that is meaningless, tedious, or just plain shit, please be aware that you may well get ignored because you are an idiot.

Thank you for reading this public service announcement.

>>161064525
This is your last chance to buy a Merchantman for $250, it'll be hitting a pretty significant price hike after this.

>>161064525
Get rid of the shitty Auroras, one of the Cutlasses and maybe something else and get a bulk hauler like a Hull C or the happy merchant.

>>161064674
All of the ships are split across multiple accounts, so the auroras are the base packages that I'm planning to CCU this week, just trying to decide what to get, Banu Jewship is looking good at the moment.

>>161064525
>M50
>350R
Why 2 racers?

>Aurora MR
>Aurora LX
Why 2 shit starter ships?

>Cutlass Red
>Cutlass Black
You need 1 pirate ship and 1 pirate ambulance?

>SH
>Avenger Titan
Why not a Sabre?

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So we know that the three missiles on the right are S3. Do you think the other three are S4 and the torpedo is S5 then?

>>161064525
No orion/reclaimer/hull, you filthy casual.

Does anyone know if you'll be able to attack planets from space in SC? Or vice-versa, shoot ships is orbit from the surface?

How will planetary bombardments, or bombing/strafing runs in atmosphere work?

>>161064525
Stop wasting your money this is enough dude.

>>161065395
No one has mentioned anything about this. Honestly i doubt it.

How does one enter Caterpillar btw, is there anything except the front ramp ?

>>161065395
Projectiles/missiles disappear/explode after traveling certain distance.

>>161065681
There's an elevator in the base module.

>>161065717
What's that? where the cockpit is?

>>161065869
Yeah. You can see it here at about 2:08.
https://youtu.be/yi7OMugknAw?t=2m1s

>>161065942
I think i remember seeing that in whitebox? it was a platform held on one end of a hydraulic arm that drops to the ground.

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>>161066224
Yeh.

What's the difference between the Sabre and the Sabre Comet?

>>161065152
none of this matters if they cant't hit anything

>>161066532
A shitty paintjob. Also the Comet has 2 S2 mass drivers (not the cool ones) and 2 S3 plasma shotguns instead of repeaters.

>>161065681
>>161066392
>>161065717

Do you think it'll be possible to load anything into the Caterpillar via that elevator?

I'm thinking along the lines of ground vehicles and large cargo. The lifts on the side and front don't look particularly sized to hold an Ursa Rover.
Possibly a module will be specialised for such a thing in future?

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>>161065152
I am so glad they didn't go with those absolutely full fucking retard sword designs for missiles.

Fucking guy on the forums asking if it's "morally just" to take players out of their comfort zones (read: require human interaction) and he's trying his absolute hardest to try erudite.

I don't know why i browse that shit hole.

>>161067529
It's ok to stop anon I won't judge you if you do.

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oh good, properly tryhard guns to match my armor

>>161067380
19 is the only real bad one, the others are at least semi-acceptable.

>>161067787
I just want my Han Solo pistol.

>>161067787
le "50 cal" face

>>161067787
>.50 CAL
.50 what

AE? GI? BMG? Beowulf?

>>161067972
>yfw it's not even a kinetic weapon

>>161067972
Whatever it is, it obviously doesn't go in the magazine that doesn't exist and wouldn't fit in the grip with holes through it.

>>161068046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX0MB7pJtKs&t=13s

>>161067529

It's such a needless conversation to have for a video game.
If people don't like interacting with other players, they'll find a way to adapt or just not play the multiplayer.

Talking about this shit just needlessly politicises a fucking video game.

>>161067972
>>161067876
>>161068046
>900 years in the future, long after the historical weapon enthusiast market was courted by a superficial 'remake' of the deagle .50, the poorly understood designation .50 CAL has lost all meaning beyond a derisive mark of generic babby's first overcompensators

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>>161067787
I made a thing.

>>161068546
But where is boolets?

>>161068582
Ask the original artist, I guess.

Though a side-fed magazine like a Sten gun would look awesome.

>>161068582
It's a .50 energy pistol powered by his own smugness.
>unlimited ammo

>>161068582
Jam em in the top

>>161068546
>"FIDDY CAL"
>tiny ass suppressor stored in grip
Yeah, this checks out.

>>161068676
What has the size of the suppressor got to do with it? Are you saying no technological advancements would be made with weapons? Oh OK.

>>161068676
makes slightly more sense than a tiny ass mag sliding up there. maybe it's a .50 cal laser?

>>161067787
That's neat and all, but will there be revolvers?

Also, in general terms, how will ballistic weapons compare to energy weapons? Both personal and ship mounted

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>people who get unironically mad when they miss a sale or a ship isn't put on sale.
I'm a little worried for these people.

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>sprint mantling and ledge hanging
we UNCHARTED now?

>>161068843
It works pretty well in the new battlefield

Playing other shooters has felt really awkward after trying the great movement in it

>>161068794
currently on ships the difference is infinite ammo vs shield piercing, not sure if heat loads are different. the laser pistol somehow runs out of ammo so idk if they're balancing hand weapons differently

>>161069007
The laser pistol works exactly how ship weapons do.

They both have capacitor type "magazines", its just the ship ones are connected to the reactor so recharge.

>>161068820

"I WANTED TO BUY <X>"
"Just wait 'til next time or get it in game whenever it finally releases"
"NO I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOOOW"

>>161068721
>technological advancements
Unless you have a device to teleport hot gas to the surface of the sun then you can't suddenly stop gas from expanding regardless of your tech level. Never go full retard

>>161067787
we /dayz/ longhorn g2 contender now
and i've never been more excited for a new handgun

>>161069062
"Just buy it in game when it's fifteen times the price, with no life time insurance, goy!"
M'kay.

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>>161069373

>Telling people to play the game instead of spending real world money now makes anon a Jew

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>>161055909
>if E:D never evolves
Hahahahahahaha

When does the next "day" start? I want to see if they'll let me upgrade my LTI 325 to a sabre

>>161070770
In like 8 hours. Also it's Aegis day, so they'll obviously let you do that.

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>>161070806
>aegis day.
Well TOO BAD THE WARDEN LOOKS LIKE FUCKING SHIT.
Aaaah

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>>161071002
>dat evil poofer

ok am I missing something with the star citizen sales, where are the reduced starter packages?

>>161071341
On Saturday.

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>mfw all the cucks in the rsi chat bragging about how many ships they bought

>>161071341
>>161071410
I hope they will include SQ42 as well so that I dont have to buy package to my friend from the Black Market

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>>161071512
>RSI chat
What are you doing, anon?

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>>161071512
>>161071642
Yea m8, what the actual fuck is wrong with you RSI chat is like drinking from an open sewer.

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>>161071642
Losing my faith in humanity

Is the Caterpillar going to be hangar ready in 2.6?

>>161071910
Due to improvements to their ship pipepline they can pretty much just skip the hangar ready stage now and go directly to flight ready. Also yes.

>>161071959
I Know it wont be flight ready till 3.0

>>161071983
No, you don't.

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tfw I could upgrade a Terrapin to the BMM while it's still relatively cheap, but the Terrapin is my shipfu

RTV in 40 minutes at twitchDOTtv/cigcommunity

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Has it been retconned?

>>161074182
nah dude remember the tevarin lost :^)

>>161074182
In what way?

>>161074227

They've been completely silent about it for a year and a half

>>161074182
>So terrible the Hoplite was shoehorned in

I'm still laughing

>>161074182

I assume it will be redesigned once the non-fan-made ships have been sorted out.

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>>161073742
>giving up your shipfu because of shekels

>>161067837
19 looks like a fucking nuke warhead with a tiny ship built around it. when it was concepted as I recall it was meant to some higher class of ubermissile

>>161073742
Terrapin will be more readily available in the PU than the Bmm.

Just saying.

>>161074182
unfortunately it appears they still remember its existence due to it being named in the Prowler FAQ

RTV started

>>161075807
KAY

Keep me posted

Let's say my friends are happily mining asteroids on the Orion and i'm flying around on my Hornet Tracker as an excort. And then i spot incoming Prowler who is obviously up to no good. What should i do ? Wouldn't i become a criminal if i attack them first ? But i sort of have to, or else they might get too close to stationary Orion and board it. How are they gonna figure this shit out ?

>>161076803
judging from similar games, you'd have to let the prowler shoot first, then shoot back

weapon attachments may be locked to specific weapon manufactures. alien weapons are in concept, and a railgun is being worked on right now.

Melee fist fighting combat confirmed at some point in the future.

>>161076883
Why would it even bother shooting if it's purpose to get its troops on board of Orion ?

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>muh derek smart

>>161076978
>Melee fist fighting

God, this is going to be weird as fuck with an FPS system(?) that is pretty much ARMA

>>161075807
Germans right? Do you have to sub to ask questions? Someone ask if we'll see illfonic's SM maps again

>>161076803
Unless this is their first ever criminal enterprise they'll have no recourse if you shoot first

>>161077062
so long as its better then skyrim fist fights

>will you have capture-the-idris mode?
>hurr we've all had ideas about it
>it would have to be unique to star citizen
So no, then? Just make the content FFS.

>conquest mode
>Battlefront style map
>Idris vs Idris
>turrets shooting each other across the map
>choosing redeemers or prowlers to land marines on the enemy idris
>set the self destruct to win

>king of the hill mode
>capture and the Javelin bridge for 15 minutes until your team gets reinforcements (wins)

>air superiority mode
>land your ships on a bengal to capture it
>hold it until the enemy reinforcements run out (see Warthunder and landing strips)

Just make the content, stop coming out with generic designs, and we have only 2 maps to look forward to. This shit is so delayed already.

>>161077241
Maybe we'll be lucky and it will be like Chivalry.

>>161076803
I imagine that you can open fire on anyone with a reputation without much consequence.

There is also the fact that this game only has local communication. information cannot travel FTL. If you kill someone and nobody is in range to hear a distress call, nobody knows about it.

EMP grenades will effect the environments such as lights in the future. Humans to use Vandal weapons to determined, humans will be able to use other alien weapons.


>>161077169
Never happening the Illfonic maps were built to the wrong metric.

49 designers working on Star Marine.

>>161077289
1st iteration SM is for testing fps, all that other shit would interfere with feedback

>>161076803
Hail them somehow, tell them they're spotted and if they approach any closer they'll be destroyed.

Prowler relies on stealth, remember.

Outside of monitored space, you can shoot whoever the fuck you want, and they'll know that too.

If you're assuming this is happening in "monitored space" which is where you can be marked as a criminal then they're probably already marked as a criminal.

If they're not marked as a criminal, but they have the intent to board, either they have to shoot the orion or perform some other hostile action to disable it before docking, and at the very least, docking/landing on the orion will be considered a hostile action, at which point the prowler is a sitting duck.

>>161077356
This is going to be the gamechanger and nobody realizes it. You have a team of chumps who take the burden of a petty crime rating for tampering with the local comms and you have free reign anywhere.

>>161077524
It was nice to see that they already put it into the mini-pu, because Oblivion guard tier policing really boils my piss

>>161077708
>Oblivion

Or GTA and their fucking literal animal cops.

>>161077708
one major benefit of them taking the time to actually build all those underlying systems rather than faking it; gaming the system is actually possible because it works as it claims to

I do wonder how reporting crime in protected but unmonitored space will work, seems like yuge fraud potential

>>161077356
>>161077524
>>161077708
I think there should be an indicator of pirate/bad karma players,

say someone who regularly pirates or has been caught doing the naughty will be label in a galactic watch list.

This translate to in game when targeted as a hostile target or potentially hostile target,

witch then can be made into a system of spoting or information on wanted players to local bounty hunters

>>161077932
skyrim had chicken narcs too

>>161077389
>1st iteration SM is for testing fps, all that other shit would interfere with feedback
I remember a long time ago, I think it was Citizencon 2015. Chris Roberts said he asked his team where the Arena Commander improvements were. He said it should have evolved and grown and there were only 2 maps. He sounded like he was annoyed with the team. Oh and a year later, we still have not much to show for it.

I'm not even hopeful any more. I was hyped at CitizenCon but they are just so slow.

Why does Star Marine have to be 100% final shipping product polished, yet Arena Commander sucks? Suspicious.

>>161078091
Did it really? I hated that game when I played it, I'm amazed I'm still discovering more and more shit about the game.

>>161078159
yep any tame animal could spot you and report your crimes
>>161078139
>arena commander sucks
fuck off goon

>>161078265
>goon
>hyped at citizencon
Stop posting.

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>>161078139
because star marine holds way more tech in it for the PU then AC does, AC boils down to flight and ship characteristics and nothing else both SM and PU work off many more systems

>>161078139
If you actually watched Citizencon you would have known that they're planning on adding more to Arena commander for the next update along with SM.

>>161078364
t. hillary clinton

So this is the Anniversary Sale. Will they do another one for Christmas holidays, or is this also it, kind of a doubled up thing?

>>161078139
>Why does Star Marine have to be 100% final shipping product polished?

SM is a massive opportunity to have a huge wave of FPS players spend money on SC.

They want to get it to at least a point where it's playable so they don't all immediately refund it.

>yet Arena Commander sucks?

So you missed the bit where 2.6 includes huge ship combat adjustments.

>>161077354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBijzwFq5vs

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>>161078372
>star marine holds way more tech in it for the PU
That doesn't mean they have to delay the release for months while they get the map lighting right. They could literally release the maps to play in grey box. Pic related, such a high fidelity map that no one complains about.

>>161078391
>If you actually watched Citizencon you would have known that they're planning on adding more to Arena commander for the next update along with SM
Just like they said a whole year ago.

Now (read: whenever 2.6 gets released), instead of Vanduul bots, you can shoot human pirate bots. Just like in Crusader.

>>161078492
His duck gets me every time. It's amazing

>>161077354
they just said in RTV that it won't be like that, it will be at most simple punch/dodge/block mechanics.

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people liked those xi'an scout webms so I went back and pulled some more from that fight, even though everyone's gonna make fun of my bad aim

> this is the multi-kilometer engagement combat hard science fags want

>>161078159
Yeah Ive had cases of being tagged for a murder when the only possible witness was a horse.

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>>161078663
>simple punch/dodge/block
still more complex than skyrim and 90% of shooters

>>161078678
>Both terrible
>Wonder why combat is boring

lol

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>>161078873
it was actually a really fun fight

>>161078542
CIG understand that most of the people reporting issues on the IC are retards and will post endless reports about the map having no textures/lighting and people on the forums will complain about players standing out too much against uniform backgrounds.

How is the ability to test pirate AI in different ships a bad thing? This might have something to do with the issues pirate AIs have in Crusader right now. If you don't want it in in 2.6, would you prefer to wait for 3.0 and have the same shitty pirate AI that fucks off into space and explodes? Yeah that will make mining and cargo interesting.

>>161078542
>implying greybox doesn't make the spectator side boring as fuck

You're right we should be getting it but I think CIG is becoming more and more concerned about showing jank due to everyone expecting steam ""early access"" from any alpha.

>>161078542
while I agree they could release grey box kits even Ghost in the Shell uses greybox test maps, however there is so much map interaction like lock doors and such since even the FPS maps are hosted in a open sandbox space that getting everything right the first time effects things greatly both in PR and in user approval

>>161078678
>People liked those xian scout fights

Yes I did. Thanks

>>161079239
>>161079196
>>161079157
Thank you for not insulting me or calling me a goon. Your replies were polite.

No, I don't have any problem with pirate swarm, it sounds cool. My problem was how long it's taken from CR's statement to actually being implemented.

They have enough assets and tech in place now to release way more content than they are planning to. They have enough creative talent working for them that they could create a dozen interesting game modes, not just 2 types of swarm survival modes.

It sounds like CR micromanages everything so much that hardly anything gets a green light for release.

>>161079015
God that DOF / blur is fucking obnoxious

>>161079510
I don't think a lot of it is a matter of green light for release so much so that almost everything they are working on is FOR the PU so while its nifty to have all these different modular modes and areas its more of a fan service to give us something to do while we wait for the REAL game to be developed.

And since the real game is so complicated most of the systems they are working on now tie into to each other so only releasing links of the chain instead of whole segments doesn't make to much since on grand scheme of things or in management terms.

It would be nice to see more frequent QA passes and updates but with how grand the whole game is and company workings are the slow pipeline of things and such is to expect.

It's only been 4 years and in terms of some games with more funding larger backers and same size studios Star Citizen has accomplished a lot not just in terms of where we are not but how the gaming industry works and how transparent they have been compared to any other game in history

rtvbrah what else

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>>161079875

>>161080072
>Flamethrowers

Are they trying to make Rising Storm in space??

>>161080072
>may be non-lethal options

Well how the fuck would you take bounties in alive without them? Wounded states?

>>161080271
Dead not alive

>>161079510
>My problem was how long it's taken from CR's statement to actually being implemented.

That's most likely heavily related to the point in time at which it's going to be useful. Remember AC is a testbed. They want good pirate AI for 3.0 so they're working on the pirate AI in AC in the preceding patch.

Just like how they want good pirate (and vanduul) AI in 3.0 because they want good AI for S42 (though that will come later).

Similarly with SM, they want FPS stuff now because FPS will be in S42 and they have to work on it now to get it looking good for S42, else development of SC will break shit in S42 later.

>They have enough assets and tech in place now to release way more content than they are planning to. They have enough creative talent working for them that they could create a dozen interesting game modes, not just 2 types of swarm survival modes.

You want another Capture The Core? That to me is the epitome of a useless game mode that serves no purpose for the PU, and was effectively abandoned about as hard as the first implementation of the missions system AKA, the Basic Flight Training tutorial. And the last update that had was its total removal because of how badly it was affecting the new player experience.

The problem here is that they need to spend their time developing parts of AC, the alpha PU, and SM in such a way that they can be effectively promoted/marketed (hey FPS players, come play our cool new shit that works generally OK!), inform useful balance and development changes, especially from the perspectives of new players, and have all of the systems they rely on working together simultaneously without breaking things like S42 later. That is an extremely hard thing to get right, and Illfonic's SM was pretty much an example of them getting it wrong, so now they're more wary.

>It sounds like CR micromanages everything so much that hardly anything gets a green light for release.

There's probably an element of that at work too.

>>161080271

>down the road

They'll be available later.
Just kill bounties for now.

>>161080302
but muh credits

>>161080072
>mag boots aren't a thing anymore

gay

>>161080271
>>161080072

There are non-lethal takedown options in Cutlass Blue owner's and Voyager Direct right now, so them saying they "might" be in is hilarious

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Add-Ons/Advocacy-Tools

>>161080530
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Add-Ons/Advocacy-Tools

>404

>>161080412
Non lethal bounties may not even be an option for players. I really don't see how they can do it without severe griefing/unnecessary inconvenience towards one party.

>>161080072
>>161080492
"EVA will be handling that and will keep you oriented to a surface properly"

Sounds like they're ditching push/pull too.

Megagay.

>>161080530
Yes that answer came from a modelling guy so just because he hasn't seen them doesn't mean that none are planned.

When are bounty hunting mechanics supposed to come in anyway? 3.3 or something?

>>161080767

I can't remember where but it was discussed that the mechanic would work as follows:
>You incapacitate a player with non-lethal method
>Proceed to capture
>At this stage player can choose to respawn at a hospital or stick around and play along
>If player respawns, their body is then assumed by an NPC of their character that you can place in a cell
>Can then take NPC to location to sell for bounty or slavery whilst the original player continues on as if they were downed as normal and woke up in a hospital

No idea if that's still the case but it seemed like a simple enough mechanic for them.

>>161080492
Probably just means they aren't needed right now; suit thrusters and grabby feet will let you 'walk' on walls etc in zero g

>>161080767
>Get tased or bleeding out
>Lasts a reasonable amount of time, not much more than the "casualty retrieval" cutscene that plays on "death"
>If they put you in a hold you are turned into an NPC and you can respawn normally
>bleeding out obviously triggers "death"
>recovering from taser effect just wakes you up, can give up early to become an NPC and respawn normally

So a glorified downed state basically

It would be cool to break a captive out to avoid penalties but I don't know how to pull that off without people busting themselves out of jail

>>161081067
>>161081193
>Become NPC, spawn early
>And woke up in a hospital

That's not too bad. I was mainly thinking about the footage I've seen of ARK and how that shitty game does player capturing, which looks horrible for the one being captured.

>>161080271
>>161080492
>>161080919
Yall must keep in mind these autistic germans are only speaking in the context of star marine

>>161081123
>grabby feet
stop muddying the already shit-filled water with garbage terms please

>>161081315
Yeah fuck that.

There's actually a lot to learn from that game, like not having insurmountable gaps of power between players, and not devaluing structures to the point where they're spammed everywhere like a fucking favela.

>>161081329
You're a garbage term, what he describes sounds like grabby hand animation without push/pull.

>>161081315

Aye I think allowing the player to respawn at any time during captivity is a nice compromise. They can suffer the hospital fees and the captor can go and sell the NPC as normal. Or execute the NPC if they're into that sort of thing.

>>161081435
In what world is player built favelas a bad thing

>>161081435
>There's actually a lot to learn from that game

Yeah. One of my biggest peevs with what I've seen is how out of place literally everything looks in the game thanks to their generic art style.

>>161081672
Definitely a smart way to approach it. Allows the autistic roleplayers to do as they please and others to not have be restrained from playing for stupid amounts of times.

>Squadron 42 supposed to be "almost done"
>"we have Vanduul weapons in a concept stage"

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>>161081615
>grabby hand animation without push/pull

>grabby hands having anything to do with locomotion

no YOU ARE THE FUCKING GARBAGE TERM grabby hands is picking shit up and moving it around, the push/pull system was always about moving around by interacting with surfaces and they're totally separate.

>>161081846

There's an emergent gameplay idea there as well.
Could you imagine being captured and respawning then like a week later you lead a boarding party onto a Caterpillar or some shit and seize it from its crew and find your own NPC locked in one of the cells from where they still haven't sold them on?

>>161081871
Again they clearly mean in an SM context; they mean player usable

>>161081871

The first episode is in grey-boxing and animation.
"Almost-done" isn't something to be taken seriously when uttered by CIG.

>>161082005
>mario 1up sound plays
>>161082158
Pretty sure they said the furthest-behind area is in greybox, obviously the animations are 90% done since mocap is long over

Will Genesis Staliner even have a real purpose ?
I just imagining all those sad lonely captains pitch-spamming general chat, offering free-for-the-first-time rides and driving single passengers around the verse.. this is kinda sad and hilarious at same time.

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How will grenades work in zero gravity ?
And is there going to be a limit on how many i can carry with me in the persistent universe?

>>161083961
>how will they work

There's a webm floating around of grenades in zero gravity.

>>161083961
these questions seem very specific, anon what are you planning

>>161083801
"NPC hauling" missions you silly baka
No one is going to sit in the 890 jump much either

Less than 24 hours until the ALL-BIG sale, right?

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What does each of the numbers on the weapons mean?

I understand on the fixed that it got two size 2 slots, but does it also mean that each of those slots got two guns? because of the "2x NN-13 Neutron Gun(1)) in this example?

Also what does the number in the paranthesis means?


Another thing, how many missiles does 2x S1 - 8x Dominator FF(1) mean? Two size 1 slots where each of them got 8 missiles? What if it stood (2) at the end of the name instad of (1)?

>>161085117
Don't even refer to that at all, anon. Its inconsistent, confusing, and straight up wrong in places.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13LzkKzDOKIdrhwL5E2n2Co6THa74A2izxn8lykDuPAk/edit#gid=961439180

he's the hardpoints for every ship in 2.5, everything else you're going to have to wait for anyway because they lie about hardpoints before they're in game anyway. They change too much.

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>>161084439
>>161083961
oddly enough after I made this they used this exact scene in AtV

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>>161085381
Thanks fammypammy!

Here, have some latex.

>>161085512
what's interesting here is that it drifts in zero g, then seems to animation-hitch as it hits the gravity, at which point it arcs until leaving the far side and going straight again. not unexpected I guess, but nice to see it doing what it should

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>>161085624

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>>161085117
the ship status page is a clusterfuck of outdated design.
Basically that mess means that the ship has;
-2x S2 hard points with a fixed S1 Neutron Gun on each hard point

-2x S4 hard points with a gimbal puck and S3 gatling gun mounted on each hard point

-2x S1 missile pylons with 4x S1 missiles mounted on each pylon.

-an unmanned turret that can equip two S2 guns

-an unmanned turret that can equip two S1 guns

>>161085381
So what does #-# mean in the spots?

For example 1-2

one size 2 weapon?
size 1 at the PU, but will be updated to possible size 2 afterwards?
Originally size 1 but can be upgraded to size 2?

That sheet explains just as little as RSI site...

>>161085887
Every x-x is a hardpoint
1-1 is a S1 hardpoint (Size 1 to 1 weapon)
1-3 is a S3 hardpoint (Size 1 to 3 size weapon)
3-3 is a S3 hardpoint that won't accept anything smaller (like avenger nose cannon)

>>161084645
>Some of you guys are alright, don’t go to port Olisar tomorrow.
having restrictions on gameplay would suck i would rather that throwables and rockets cost a fortune then nerfing them into being a useless gimmick

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>>161086040
Thanks again!

Have some more!

ded

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>still no 2.6 on evocati today. Maybe monday or tuesday.

I just wanted to fly a herald while it was still up for sale...

>>161089778
/waiting for aegis sale to go up/
superded

Gotta get me some best dynamics, Ive traded all my dynamics in for drakeshit.

Still cant decided whether to make something into a basetally or not.

>>161090121
I hope the GT guy comments on the ridiculous amounts of spaceplanes. Also, don't get a Retaliator. You'll just get disappointed.

2.6 won't come till chrismas and it won't have SM, only other changes.

>>161091004
If you say so it has to be true.

>>161090773
I have a bomber for three years and just recently upgraded it into a caterpillar. I know exactly what Im getting, but the tally is my shipfu. I really want to have one, but was having a hard time justifying a 250 useless ship, 150 is more tolerable, I wanted it initially for non combat use anyway and was more than a little annoyed when they gave me a straight upbomber instead of the comfy RV with turrets that was pitched.

The only thingI see the tally actually being good at is as a troop carrier and support ship, It has lots of turrets to cover a landing, support for titan armor and the second bay can carry a shitton of ammo for the squad, which can be flown quickly and safely to resupply points. Given that the tally is a combat ship from the ground up and not a converted hauler.

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>>161073742
>>161074924

How can she be your shipfu if you're thinking about replacing her.

I know I will stick to mine 4eva

>>161091307
part of the problem is we don't even know how useful it will be for *non-combat* roles. There's no definite number for how much cargo it will hold yet with the cargo modules. Some say 126+units, some say only 44 units. The living modules seem redundant, and neither add private cabins to the ship.

>>161091906
Im well aware of the various and legion problems with the ship, like I said, I bought one in 2013 and had it until a week ago.

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>>161091498
I'm still waiting to see if my shipfu keeps her curvy canopy in the rework and if she'll still be able to replace the useless cells with cargo area like promised or if she'll get Reliant Tana'd to keep her from being a "Super Cutlass"... otherwise I'll just go with her cheaper sister.

3 hours to El Grando Saleu?

>>161092470
55 minutes

>>161092470
Grand Finsale is tommorow, today is just aegis.

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>>161092265
They said they were going to work on the Blue to keep the shape, especially of the canopy. I forget where, but I know I heard it. I'm looking forward to seeing how they make it look and work.

>>161092265
>>161092752
The curved cockpit was shit and didn't look like Drake at all.


All 3 Cutlass will share the same cockpit in the rework.
Get fucked.

>>161092821
>didn't look like Drake at all.
That was the point. At the time Drake's style was pure 100% ugly

Is the Grand Finale saturday gonna put everything back on sale?
I only just got wind of the sale and have missed everything so far.

>>161093720
Source?

>>161093754
Weekly newsletter just went out.

>>161093567
yes, everything previously available and a couple that day only things.

>>161093720
Looks like sort of the intermediary between dinosaurs and birds
neat

>>161093754
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/if73u12bro8clr/source/Tevarin-Heads.jpg

>>161093720
Kroot

Will tomorrow's discounted package sales include SQ42 or do I just have to buy a cheap SQ42+ package from the black market?

>>161094521
wont know till tommorow, theyre different every year, but Id guess not.

>>161094521
not yet known

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report

updated now

2.6 release date aim: Thu 08 dec 2016

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Would it be possible to be pure Empire?

Like, the second you can, buy an Imperial Eagle, use that to buy a Courier, then buy a Clipper, then farm for Cutter.

About how long would this take you?

>>161094973
Neat

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>>161094973
This was posted about a week ago...

>>161095587
l2read fgt

>Last update : Nov 25th, 2016

actually they typed "216" but whatever

>>161095587
Yes, but they updated it today. As they said they would.

>>161076803
Put yourself in-between the prowler and your friends on the Orion first of all, then IIRC the scanner can ping people "loudly" which was intended to be a side-effect of operational incompetence but you could very well send several sloppy warning pings at them in quick succession. They might just think you're a scared shitter, but you'll have their attention.

There's also the old fashioned shot across the bow, just make sure it's far enough off that they don't think it's just shit aim.

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So any of you commandos going to buy the Anvil F6 Lightning next month?

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>>161096556
>it's another Agent episode

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15616-Intergalactic-Aerospace-Expo-Day-Eight-Aegis-Dynamics

>DUE TO SOLAR FLARE INTERFERENCE, TODAY’S GALACTIC GEAR TRANSMISSION WILL BE SLIGHTLY DELAYED. CHECK BACK SHORTLY FOR JAX’S REPORT FOR THE DAY.
reeeeeee

>>161096556
That looks like some blender tier amateur hour shit.

>>161097167
So cig-tier asset then, cmdr?

o7

>>161093720

I like it

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>more expensive than a Super Hornet
>doesn't even have the nose turret

>>161093720

I like the slightly avian design.

I'd fuck it.

Retaliator or Sabre?
I have an LTI 325 and I'm really unhappy with what it currently is and I'm willing to spend some so I'll have LTI on something I like

I know it's early alpha etc. but I really don't like anything about the 325. Is there any good info on what the Retaliator will be like, or should I just go for the Sabre?

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>>161097642
Retaliator is shit unless you're a fan of wasted space and bad interior design.

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>Hornet Wildfire
>$175
>doesn't even have a gun mounted on the chin hard point.

Christ, and they didn't even bother to change old hornet s4 hardpoint stats on the ship's page.

>>161097640
Oh please, you'd fuck anything alien, just to know how it feels, probably even vanduul.. i know i would..

>>161097642
Why not cutlass black or blue ?

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Just bought my best dynamics shipfu.

>>161093720
Awesome.

>>161064525
man you people lack self control

how about melting all of it for the 2-3 ships you actually plan on using instead of owning so many small ships that do the same thing, or do nothing useful at all

i mean youve already spent so much money without having anything useful you might as well skip right to your endgame

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>>161093720
They're the chozo?

>>161093720
this is perfect for the range of emotions I expect from the defeated but rebellious Tevs. I hope their feathers ruffle when they're angry

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>mfw i kind of dislike whales and only try to stick to a small fleet of few not so big ships then suddenly realize i have a concierge button..

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>>161098550
Welcome to the "how the fuck did I get here" club, buddy.

>>161093806
I have never scrolled to the bottom of one of these emails in 4 years. do they always sneak shit in there?

>>161092752
hopefully it maintains the slicker shinier police SUV kinda look. maybe even sneak it into the lore that it's an Aegis/drake combined effort from the same old era when the avenger was relevant

>>161098709
it's not gonna have this paint job right? hoping that's something for pu or sq42

>>161098362
nah, theyre a cheap way to make it so they dont need to build a new animation skeleton

literally human head reskin

>>161099235
have you seen the full body? there will definitely be a unique animation set

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>>161099217
I imagine that paint job, COVALEX included, will be in the game, but not mandatory. No paint scheme will be mandatory once they get the proper tools in place for player customization.

>>161067787
Why are there holes in the grip?
Where does the magazine go?