/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

1st for ded

>AWESOME NEW ENGINEERS UPDATE
when will this be true?

>>160688486
literally never
unless the marek and the nuKeen are successfully gassed

>>160688539
are the real devs all busy working on skynet?

>>160688771
No, they're working on ruining spengos to the point that people stop playing and they don't have to update anymore

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>>160688771
>KEEN
>real devs
There are only cultists and the brainwashed they have bound to Him.

>>160688998
>>160689032
then who are working on that AI project?

>>160689238
Nobody.

Friendly reminder Reinhard did nothing wrong.

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>>160689238
>goodai

>>160689797
>keen's goodai
>keen go die
it was a message

>>160689238
Probbably just the marek when he's not crying about his dev team's incompetence

#NotMySponges

RIP getFreeDestination

Threadly reminder to gas marek.

>>160688548
>and it's totally legal
I have some bad news for you.

>inb4 the entire /egg/ userbase is on one or another czech watch-list for repeated threats

>>160692694
They changed it?

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>>160691874

Avorion no longer dead. Amazing!

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>>160689797
>goodai

I thought this was an epic dev meme like the Homestar Runner thing, but then I looked it up.

It looks shady as fuck.

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>>160693643
the best part is it has its own soundtrack

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>>160693959
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdBhluje9KahmlnU6cibZfg/videos

>more soundtrack than demo videos

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>>160694525
what's even better is that every single one of the demo videos was absolutely elementary shit

nothing we haven't seen in the last 20 years, literally

>>160688548
>two round burst
>totally legal
Anon, unless you live in Canada or somewhere, I suggest you double-check that. Unless more ATF fuckery has occurred (which is possible), then it's still considered a "machine gun" because it fires more than one round with one pull of the trigger AFAIK.

>>160695186
There was a specific technicality dealing with the Mini-14 staple trick and solely to that configuration of an induced malfunction that enabled it to be technically legal to do, and it was an open secret for a while. If that's changed recently due to legislation then oh well.

>>160695431
>>160695518
I'm not familiar with how a mini14's trigger group works, but that sounds dumb but plausible.

Man, fuck the ATF.

>>160695186
>>160695518
>>160695583
Oh, right, it was with the exact wording. 'Pull'. The second shot fires on the release. IIRC they recently changed the wording to be closer to 'actuation' or 'operating cycle'.

>>160695632
>second shot fires on the release
Yeah, I'm 99% certain the wording was changed and that would be illegal now, unfortunately.

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>>160695632
>pull

Shit, that's actually really clever.

>>160696429
You have no idea how long people have had to pour over existing regulations to come up with backhanded mechanical solutions to exploit loopholes.

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>>160696592
I'm not American but I've heard tell.

>>160696790
That's not the even least of it. We used to have something called a 'burp gun'.

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>robocucking
>team is useless fuckwads and are getting steamrolled
>notice 2 guys are AFK
>type "are you guys even playing?"
>guy on my own team types back "U MAD BRO?" as our base gets destroyed

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>join 50 player server on empyrion

>choose PVP planet as a starter planet

>giant fucking holes litter the surface of where newbie bases used to be

f-fug

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=800643498

The fuck? Is this a mechanical PID controller?

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>>160698662
This is engineering.

>bought FtD in a bundle for ridiculously small price
>installed it
>my first skirmish in tutorials ended with me running ashore
I am up for a fun ride, am I not?

>>160698534
Can you feel the smell of freedom?

>>160699493
>I am up for a fun ride, am I not?
Indeed. And remember THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

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How does /egg/ build their ships?

Subsystems first, or appearances first?

>>160700572
Subsystems first, and then i try to build a nice looking casing for the subsystems.

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>>160700572
a little of both really, if it's a small ship. i usually start from the cockpit and work back through oxygen and into the main reactor block,then start laying down the hull lines a little.

>>160698534

Do people not build offline protection modules?

>>160701243
offline protection modules only kick in like 5-10 minutes after logging off, and they only last a set amount of days while being offline.

That said it's also the starter planet allegedly so people just creep newbies and there's nothing they can do.

>>160701243
it's disabled on this server

wew

>>160688139
not that hard to prove
his games are rather expressive, there's a lot you can do. in kohctypop, spacechem, infinifactory any conceivable puzzle is solvable given infinite space (and if all output blocks/elements are available one way or another, which is trivial to prove).
all of those are turing-complete as well.

>>160704194
I should clean my electric grill.

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1 2 3 4 TURTLES

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neat

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>>160705265
WWHAHATAHWHWTAHWTAH

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>>160705265

Turtle power dude.

>>160700572
>make general exterior design
>place thrusters
>find coziest cockpit layout and size
>interior systems like powa, gyros, piping, and whatever else is needed
Most of the time I end up with catwalks on the flat exterior surfaces because I needed more interior room than the outer walls allowed
it works out eventually though

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>>160707205
pic related, reverse thrust was stuffed inside the nose because muh classic lines

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>>160700572
Definitely has more pulling power

>>160708853
mirin that hydrotrucc

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>suicide into base turrets so many times that it runs out of ammo

WEW

>>160707027
>nx15's house

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>>160709134
Thanks, I'm pretty happy with it.

Has anyone ever made a hovercraft that's really effective in any gravity? Like, the idea I had is that it'd use hydrogen thrusters rather than ion or atmospheric. You'd have two sets of 'hover thrusters', one set that's always burning, but just weak enough so that the gravity is still pulling it downwards. The other set would pulse on and off to ensure you stay at the desired altitude.

Of course, there's really no reason to not just use aircraft, though I was figuring it'd have something to do with staying under the radar or allow for a bit more armor. After all, if you don't have to worry about thruster clearance on top at all, and with reduced clearance on the sides, and you really don't have to worry about armor on the bottom, you can focus on specializing it for combat.

Or it'd just look absolutely bitchin'. Get one with a fixed forward cannon so you can go tank hunting.

Speaking of land vehicles, did anyone make anything resembling Kapisi or any of those Coalition cruisers yet?

>>160700572
I've tried both, but they definitely have their drawbacks. If you build subsystems first, like your picture, you're gonna end up with a brick. No offense, of course.

If you focus on appearance first, you're probably gonna run out of interior space, like >>160707205 says.

Personally I try to think of the silhouette first, how it looks from one side to another. I have a big thing for modularity, too, and I've tried to build cargo ships with detachable pods in the past.

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>>160712358
>armored hovercraft
>with fixed forward cannon
Found fellow spandex enthusiast.

>>160712745
VS best.

Though I actually wasn't thinking of the Vanu when I was writing it, I had played a game of Battlefield 4 on one of those Final Stand maps with the hovertanks, they follow the same basic premise. It can angle up and down, but it can't turn at all.

Obviously it has disadvantages, but there are some big perks you get with the bonus to maneuverability. Though, what I had in mind was less 'penis gun' and more an offset cockpit with a gun opposite it. A penis gun would likely work better, though, as the recoil is in line with the forward thrust.

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>>160712745

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>>160713164
and his bigger brother

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Somewhat engineering-related: is there a whatever-person shooter where you design your weapons?
I recall there being two or three games about that but for the life of me I can't remember any names.

>>160713000
Something like Nemesis maybe?

>>160713525
Im gonna try to do this in spungos...
Maybe using rotor displacement and wheel friction can get the legs and its movement. moves like a bug???

sperm

>>160713525
I think you're referring to Blacklight, the idea was that you had different receivers of varying types, and depending on the barrels, stocks, grips or ammunition had different effects. The same receiver could be used for a close range bullet hose carbine or a long range marksman's rifle, usually.

And yeah, sorta like that but probably on a smaller scale. I figure that if you're going with a fixed forward gun, you're either going to:
>Sacrifice armor to get the biggest gun on the smallest frame you can, closer to a self propelled gun
>Have no other option, the weapon is too big to fit on anything smaller and still keep its effect
The latter is along the lines of the Gaalsien railgun cruiser that >>160713309 posted. It's a giant fuckoff railgun with antigravity propulsion built around it. I'd adore to build one in Spengies or FTD, if only they both had decent land combat.

Speaking of which, I haven't looked at FTD in almost a year, what's happened lately? Any news on land combat? I want my Kapisi with hovertanks and shit.

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>>160713965
>railgun in spengos
projectiles are too slow if they are dead weight only, happens with lots of man made weapons, they are somehow limited to 90m/s

>>160713918
>sperm
>reminded me of that one time someone calculated how much raw data storage was in one jizzload
Out of curiosity, anyone know what the theoretical read/write speed is for shit like this?
I know that quantum computers are the new mainstream meme next ebin thing, but how viable is it for frankenstien to start making storage drives?

>>160713525
There was loadout, not sure how it's looking now but I got into the alpha back when, they had a lot of variety in accuracy, projectile type, damage variant, RoF and such. There was also guncraft and I think Ace of Spades were you could voxel guns. Guncraft required the gun to be voted on the workshop before you could use it though I think. The notable feature of all these games is that they're ded and/or dildos

>>160714235
Obviously not right now, I was thinking if someone ever made a FTD style mod for custom weapons. As it stands, FTD has no real land combat (and I absolutely SUCK at flyers, holy hell I can't build something to stay in the air at all.) I'm just not a fan with how the weapons are handled in Spengies, you can't build a specific gun for a specific job/craft, and the vanilla guns are terrible.
>>160714406
>tfw the Adeptus Mechanicus probably has semen-based databases somewhere
>>160714431
Holy shit I forgot about Loadout.

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>>160714406
>and of course I forgot the picture
Fuck mobileposting, and fuck apple.
Hate being forced to do this.
>you're using a vpn even though you're not so we'll ban you for one month, autorenewing

>>160714235
If artificial gravity was still usable on blanets (maybe with increased power draw or something) that would be bretty cool, fuckhueg tonks with gravity cannons that can rip bases in half. speedcap mod would probably necessary though
>tfw shooting a projectile so fast it phases through the first layer of the target and blows out the other side

>>160714634
Speedcap mods are fun, I got one ages ago that upped the limit to ~100,000 m/s or so, I can't remember.
This was back before jump drives, so what I figured was that you'd build space stations with 'jump rings' that're just a crapton of gravity generators, and stick a single artificial gravity block on your ship.
Let's say that you have three generators on a side, per layer, each set to 1 G. Then let's say you have, just to be even, ten layers, with each layer being 5 meters (two blocks, alternating between gravity generators and the base they're attached to.)
So that's 50 meters and approximately 120 G, round it out to an even 1200 m/s^2. You're probably not going to be in there for a full second, but if you took the effort to spread the layers out (say, put them ~20 blocks away from each other for a more even and longer lasting acceleration), you can get some mad acceleration.
Hell, this still might be a cost effective strategy for smaller ships that can't afford a jump drive.

And completely unrelated, do the physics break if you try to make a space elevator?

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>>160712221
>>160708853
Now we space truckin

>>160715273
Colored from what is on them?
oxygen and hydro?

>>160715861
See how easy that makes it?

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>>160716564
muh space panama has the same.
i wish there was specific cargo types, that increase the capacity of specific items.
That would increase the colors.
except for those, the rest are recolors of regular cargo containers.

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>>160698662
>>160699194
>@A wizard man Game bug, under certain conditions wheels rotate on their own

Disappointing desu, but the idea of mecha-PID briefly inspired me to make pic related.

It uses the tilt of a balloon to drive a pair of brakes through a reducing geartrain. Closer to bang-bang control than PID though.

>>160717078
That's fucking great though, how well does it work?

>>160692826
I'm sure anything that modifies the firing group to get a gun to fire anything other than semi auto without going through proper paperwork and all that is a goodbye to your dog.

>>160717518
We already solved the discussion. It was a loophole in the wording that allowed fire-on-release.

>>160715273
>Color coded by cargo type and in convenient crates
Oh man. I'd love to have these with, like, a big depot connected to a space elevator.

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>>160717161
I'm actually not that sure.

Testing with a pinned balance rig suggests they don't have enough correcting force, plus the brakes have a huge dead zone where the copter is free to wobble about. Bringing the brakes closer risks CLANG. In practice, however, having a balloon on a long stick is really good for stability in itself, so the copter is stable as fuck.

Instead of brakes, I might try using pairs of opposing screws similar to what Algodoo anon was doing. To generate a net thrust, he tilted them so that they faced the same direction.

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>>160718681
>opposing screws

Fuck yeah, I had a feeling this would work.

It's so much simpler and more effective than the brakes, and it doesn't demand much torque from the balloon so I can actually use a speed-up gear.

>>160719863
seems like it'd work for mechanically-driven airships though, especially those with clutched or brakeable chaos engines.

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>>160714431
>Loadout and AoS
>PvP-based

>Blacklight
>PERFECT WORLD
>PvP-based
>also PERFECT WORLD
>judaism running wild
>Did I say PERFECT WORLD?

>Guncraft
>minecrap modpack becomes a game
>Corneroids-ded

>>160720510
D-don't remind me about corneroids, dear anon.
I still remember that modpack I was working on, hell I think I have the files around here somewhere...

>>160720510
daily reminder
no fun allowed
ever
it seems to be a universal rule

degg

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>tfw looking for a publisher
>tfw all the advice I can find about talking to these fuckers is "short and sweet"
>"Mario kart as a 2d platformer" would describe SpeedRunners

How the good fuck do I describe REM in less than ten words?

"Robocraft without the jewery"

"World of tanks, BUT YOU CAN BUILD THE TANK"

"Freespace, BUT YOU CAN BUILD THE SHIP, and also have physically simulated structural physics, including the ability to bounce rounds as opposed to simply absorbing them into a health pool."

"Robocraft without voxel cubes and shitty laser guns?"

>>160725795
stem grenlegt

>>160725795
"you can build thing which actually works"

>>160725795
Typically, you should avoid using another game as comparison but unfortunately publishers don't get that. The last one you mentioned should be apt, how many ships and players can the game currently handle?

>>160725795
"Space arena with deep customization and simulated structural physics."

>>160725795
"MOBA with MOBA physics and MOBA MOBAs"

>>160725795
"Minecraft with guns"

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who wants to join a stupid empyrion server with stupid scripts and faceroll punks all day long?

When /mscg/ dies can we come here?

>>160725795
"Battlefield 1942 but with a sprint button"

>>160727697
Absolutely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7sZzkCJSl8

>>160727605
if I could afford the game, sure

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>>160727605

>see your taxes you have to pay

>>160727781
Thanks we're already on death's door

>>160728564
it's a whole lot of bullshit you don't even worry about unless you build on stupid fucking donator planets to feed the donators' greedy pockets.

>>160728571
Sad but understandable.

>>160727697
My Summer Car is not engineering
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>160729143
But anon you can use piss as radiator coolant how is that not engineering?

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>>160729387
>you can use piss as radiator coolant
Fucking finns.

On our next server can we mod in a ghost ship that has a .05% chance of appearing during a pirate attack and tell nobody?

>>160727605
already got banned

>>160732979
Wat? explain.

>>160733018
spawned a ton of motorcycles in someones pvp cube to the point they couldnt get back in it on a pve area

>>160733148
good job

>>160715036
Someone made a space elevator a while ago, it didn't end too well

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r8 my bote

>>160734565
Breddy gud/10

I always wonder what people put in those huge sections fore and aft of the guns. I know it's there to look nice, but what's inside there? My ships usually end up being around 50% gun, and if viewed from above it's basically either gun or superstructure. None of this empty deck stuff.

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>find a moonbase, fucking fortified to shit on top
>eventually clear those turrets out only to find an elevator passage below with a personal turret fucking us up super hard
>eventually clear THAT out
>below THAT is a large room with a massive turret in it
>finally clear everything out, massive haul, decide to take CV next
>not too hard, core next to entry door
>start pilfering the base, someone flies nearer and nearer with a CV and we rush loot everything
>fly away just as bullets start plinking

>>160728648
>stupid fucking donator planets
Have anyone tried to glass them yet?

>>160734895
While it is mainly for aesthetics, I tend to scatter a bunch of ammo storage compartments in there in case one gets blown up, otherwise I just make them more cramped compartments with more armor to keep the guns safe in a bow on engagement, as for the Aft I usually either place batteries or a backup engine in there.

What's empyrion?

>>160737103
A pile of poorly-optimized disappointment.

>>160737159
Fuck it, I'm used to 15 fps standard on Starmade.

>>160737223
>tfw your pc is so bad that you find 20fps to be a high number

>>160737276
I feel you.

>>160737159
it's still more stable than spengies

>>160737481
>than spengies
LIKE IT'S A FUCKING ACHIEVEMENT

So I managed to make my first helicopter-ish thing in FtD. Not entirely sure how good 22m/s speed average is but it was pretty fun to fly especially since it's able to effectively land on water.
Just gotta work on the engines and weapon systems. Also gotta try to see if I can't make it less volatile because as it stands one good hit completely fucks it up.

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>>160737223
>play Starmade multiplayer
>meet up with about a dozen other players above a planet in ships of various sizes
>3 fps at best

The game usually ran pretty well whenever I went off to some bumfuck system by myself though, but at that point I might as well just play singleplayer.

>>160738072
If it tells you something, 22m/s is around 49 mph, that's slower than a Toyota Prius.

Also my huge heavily armored missile battleship can do 25 m/s


Not to discourage you, but you need to work on making it speedy speed boy

>>160738152
Specs?

>>160738239
Yeah there's a lot more I could do to improve my designs in general. Speed is definitely one of them.

And not to make any excuses but lately I've been trying to be more conscious of material costs for campaigns and whatnot. Not really sure what numbers I should be gunning for there either since a lot of AI ships have extra cosmetic stuff.

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>>160738256
Granted now that I recall this incident I remember said planet was being strip mined to death. That would partially explain the single digit fps.

>>160738664
I used to have this exact same CPU, and can confirm, there is nothing abnormal about that fps. You need to update your hardware, my dude. a 8150 would suffice. Should probably even fit the motherboard.

>>160739213
Yeah, I plan to do that soon. The cpu and mobo are pretty much the only parts I still have from the original build of this computer.

>>160705265
>these holes for ammo inputs

just blow my shit up desu senpai senpai

>>160738486
You should try not to worry about cosmetic stuff until you have enough to build ships without thinking about it.

I started with an ugly ass boat in the campaign and ended up with a huge battleship with a bunch of useless decorations (of which im building a new one)

>>160740040
Not worried about cosmetics but I'm worried about what my costs should be since the AI boats are all over because of their cosmetics.

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>>160738072
>see if I can't make it less volatile because as it stands one good hit completely fucks it up.

One good hit from almost everything fucks up a helicopter, the key to ftd is defeating attacks before they hit your vehicle.

>>160740145
If you build ships that can handle a few enemies alone, then around 30k material should be a good number, unless you're early game, but 30k shouldn't be too hard to get.

>>160688456
>"The general that quite literally cannot be named. The Mexican scam artist one. With the shitposters. Fuck off."
what general dis

>>160740904
robocraft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjweUYtpNq4

>>160738239
>If it tells you something, 22m/s is around 49 mph, that's slower than a Toyota Prius.
What a fucking useless comparison.
Consider the speed of a missile in FtD, and compare it to its real-world analogue.

>>160725795
>World of tanks, BUT YOU CAN BUILD THE TANK
sounds bretty gud

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This is shaping up to a world of problems.
At the very least, I need a clever way to ensure that the pipe assembler doesn't hog iron, leading to a shortage of gears.

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Been fucking around with steam engines in FTD for a few hours, first fully functional engine is an 8W/9L/4H block setup which produces 9676 hp, and generates 594 electrical energy per second, consuming 4.8 resources per second. With the turbines removed it can produce 10280 hp.

>>160745175
Why are you using the steam pressure release pipes?

>>160740904
Killing Space Penises

>>160746401
to keep it from reaching the max speed they can get to before making annoying boom boom sounds.

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>>160745175
I have reduced the width of the engine by 4, and streamlined the pipes so they're less of a clusterfuck. Turbineless engine produces 10343 hp, Turbined engine produces 9739 hp and 592 electrical charge.
>>160746401
There doesn't seem to be any detrimental effects to having them attached, they look cool, and this >>160746509

>>160747406
>all that wood
Jesus christ that would be really heavy an inefficient

WTFactorio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgfwwqwxdxY

>>160747690
>inefficient
You don't understand how to properly use that word.

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Doubled the power of both engines, although the turbine one still generates the same amount of power. I only had to increase the length of the engine block by 2, however the resource consumption is twice as high, obviously.

>>160748076
I mean that it's uneccesarily heavy with all that wood

>>160747720
literally how

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>>160748542
>how
a u t i s m
https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?t=37490

>>160748605
Smart
Had he to program each node alone or was there some optimisation

>>160747690
they're probably prototypes, wood is easy to work with

>>160747690
I think only 2 of those guns use actual wood, the rest looks like textured plastic.

>>160748682
blueprints obviously. he likely also used a tool to generate the image data blueprints

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>>160749057
>>160747690
Pretty sure it's all bakelite

>>160748479
>>160746753
>>160745175
So all in all turbines are useless?

>>160749535
Well if you don't need electricity for anything on your vehicle, then yes obviously you'd not even bother attaching the turbines. If you do need electricity though, they generate plenty, far more cost effectively than RTGs. My small engine (with two tiny turbines) produces almost the same amount of power as a large 3x3 RTG, but the 3x3 RTG costs 10k resources to build. Meanwhile the engine costs only 560, and it also provides 9739 hp to drive wheels or propellers or whatever you need. The RTG provides only 115 extra electricity but is 17+ times as expensive.

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I should start fitting all my planes with retractable landing gear, fixed gear looks wrong on anything except biplanes good thing wing panels and propellers are the only thing that causes drag in this game

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>>160751271
>that nozzle

>>160748530
>>>wood

NEW
SERB
WHEN

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>>160753989
>NEW SERB
More like new game, not even DE fucked us as hard as Keen does accidentally

>>160740472
Makes sense.

>>160740481
Alright, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the advice.

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>>160753989
When new netcode make it playable?

>>160749863
Meant compared to the "normal" alternator, the one used along with pistons

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>>160751732
That engine mod looks p cool indeed. The throttle option is nice too

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>>160688157
Why wont rotors work?

>>160755958
aerobrakes?
that would be the next step.

>>160749518
Top left grip, bottom left butt plate.

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>>160756627
Several of my planes used to have airbrakes like in this webm in the past, but they're not really necessary. The elevator provides enough braking force

So terratech is finally starting to show the first signs of becoming worthwhile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF8erUJG6AM

What do you guys think? Another year of development and it could be good?

>>160757732
pushing against the ground?
what about canards? does they help there?

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Quadcopter with the new proportional attitude control.

At the end I turn off the attitude control and almost immediately crash it.

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>>160757876
It's not so much pushing against the ground as it is the massive drag caused by wing panels, webm related. That's 400+ m/s to 0 in like 5 seconds

The small wheels have very little drag, it's why I use them as landing gears instead of normal wooden wheels which refuse to go any faster than about 30 m/s on the ground and are therefore useless on most of my planes which have a much higher takeoff speed.

>>160757743
i have it, and its really fun until you have a mobile fortress which takes some time, i do recommend it, tho more content would make it better

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>>160758480
Close up of the control mechanism. It's really damn simple.

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>>160758484
holy shit

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>>160758480
>>160758585
Rotorcraft are still wizardry to me, I've perfected planes but I've never managed to make a properly flyable helicopter or quad

Also I miss the scramjet glitch so much ;_;

>>160758673
>from wet to orgasm in 10 seconds

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>>160758729
tfw the Mach 3 car is dead

>>160759176
We can always use crashtastic for speed races. I managed to make a super high speed suspension system several years ago.

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>tfw spongo racing never again
daily reminder
gas the nuKeen

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>>160760917
I haven't played Crashtastic, I'll have to check it out some day What is it about destruction physics that's so immensely satisfying to watch?

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>>160761090
racing at 5 fps doesn't look very exciting so why is it that spengies is literally the best /egg/ racing game?
>besiege and simpleplanes and those games are all singleplayer
>machinecraft a slow
>starmade is boring and controls like shit
>robocraft is a pvp game and also slow
>FTD could potentially be a really cool racing game but runs like shit and is ugly as fuck

now that i mention it why hasn't anybody tried racing in FTD? something like firing up a custom map with a bunch of canyons, giving each player a set amount of resources to start and 20 minutes to build a racer and then going at it

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>>160761960
sponges seems to have the highest available speedcap, although I do remember some people hitting rather hihg speeds in FtD screenshots. Never got very much into it but if it does sanic then that could be cool
>tfw nuKeen can't just dump sponges so the community can eventually unfix it

>>160761960
>now that i mention it why hasn't anybody tried racing in FTD?

There's a race mode, but let's be honest, the way it is now, boat races are slow as fuck, for land races you need flat worlds since the tiniest bump on the ground can flip your vehicle, sky or space races might be the only way


And for that /egg/ racing game i'm doing, i'm still working on making collisions right

>>160761960
how do you even move that fast

>>160762391
custom jets

that jet guzzles its fuel supply, which takes up 1/3rd of the volume of the thing, in less than 2 minutes

>>160762391
custom jets from before the speed nerf. Some anon managed to build a plane that went at ~3km/s

>>160762510
>speed nerf
oh no

how bad is it?

>>160762594
Just forget custom jet engines exist and slap a ton of single block jet engines

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>>160762510
>speed nerf
Why do devs always nerf the best things?

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>>160762651
RIP every single one of my heavy aircraft

>>160762737
No fun allowed

>>160762594
>>160762651
>how bad is it?
Hold your pants:
water propellers: 50m/s
>implying you can get faster than 30m/s anyways
jets: 120 or 150 m/s, can't remember, probably 150m/s
custom jets: 175 m/s, because fuck supersonic flight
ion jets and wheels: unlimited speed because Nick

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>>160762845
>175 m/s

>>160762845
>jets: 120 or 150 m/s
But there are propeller planes IRL that can go 200+ m/s

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just picked up factorio lads

finished the tutorial, is the "new hope" campaign worth playing or should i jump straight into freeplay?

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>>160762937
>Have a plane that guzzles oceans of fuel per second to achieve mach 12 speeds
>Nick happens
>Have a plane that guzzles oceans of fuel per second to reach a hardcapped 175m/s speed
>mfw

>>160763048
It needed to be balanced because the fastest missile only goes to about 110 m/s

>>160763048
it's to keep people from building designs that are invulnerable to everything but lasers.

>>160763158
That one and the Nyancatformer were both amazing and terrifiying

>>160763067
freeplay that shit

>>160763067
Yes.

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>>160761960
>machinecraft a slow
>machinecraft
>slow
YOU FOOLISH MORTAL

>>160763067
campaign is good

>>160763596
holy fucking shit what wizardry is this

my crap loses power trying to go over 600 on 999% charge rules

>>160763096
>>160763101
Does the game have a single player mode without retarded limitations like that? It should

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>>160763596
you're going to have to tell me how this was achieved, thank you

>>160763753
NOPE!

>>160763860
>>160763596

>The FZero-a-like map with 2000kmh

kek it was barely controllable at 900

i'm up for this chaos

>>160763869
Well fuck it then

An engineering game where you can't build hypersonic machines is no engineering game

So, seeing that /egg/ racing is up again, i one question for you all:

"Where would you like to race?"


I-it's not like i'm out of ideas for racetracks or a-anything

>>160763991
BUT ANON! THAT WOULD BE *GASP*
FUUUUUUNN!!! WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!

>>160764090
redout has cool settings

f-zero has cool settings

star-wars episode 1 pod racer has cool settings

basically all sorts of different colorful areas. go low-poly no normals meme graphics so you can churn out many stages.

>>160764090
you could do a castle/underground mine level

like something out of dwarf fortress

that'd be cool

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>>160763096
Except for the fact that it would very easily be balanced by simply changing the values of the already in fucking place world drag sliders.
Instead, Nick "The Manbaby" 'Smart' has to hard code it into the fucking game, preventing anyone from going fast ever again under any circumstance.
Everyone who counts loves Nick Smart!

>>160764090
>>160764179
F-zero did have some bretty cool tracks, the city-setting races were always neat

snowy mountains could be gud racing too

>>160764239
>>160764336
One of the racetracks i had thought was "Besieged land", which would be set on the ruins of some castle/village, and that would feature some clanging machine that could damage the racers or something like that

>>160763991
it's supposed to be a game where you fight. it's a sandbox-but-not-really

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>>160764421
also
>JB Crystal best shipfu

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>>160764490
sounds good m8

>>160764402
except that only fixes missiles and not other guns.
care to explain how you'd like to fix the rest?

>>160764490
What about a very wide and long track that is constantly bombarded by artillery? Most of the challenge would be dodging the explosions/craters as they appear while trying to push a opponent into one of such hazards so that they get wrecked

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>>160764090
Just put in every level in Plane Crazy and you're done.

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>>160764490
>Besieged land
>Clanging machine

>>160764604
You what?
Ramping up drag would easily slow everything down. The guns part is solved quite simply by not making the slowest pieces of shit also the most powerful in the first place.

AI Racing Egg game when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lJuEW-5vr8

>>160764653
If i manage to make ground destruction a thing, sure

I was planning on ground destruction since the beggining, but i hadn't thought about what you posted.
What i wanted to do was like in kirby air ride, there are certain racetracks that have breakable obstacles blocking shortcuts

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>>160765513
>Set stats for each car (int, speed, maneuverability etc.)
>Custom cars (with stat limit)
>Singleplayer puts yours against different numbers of CPU
>Bet on which car at beginning of races for multiplayer
>Checkpoints for respawning etc.
It'd be like watching a fucking Mario Kart race with methheads playing

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>>160763596
>>160763860
we found it
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=715331859

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Welp

>>160766871
>saltybet
>the 4CC
>Mario Retardy

>>160767139
Stop using jets and put the rears on a common axle connected to whatever power source.

>>160767139
A large amount of that could be being caused by the friction pads, since they're all separate objects rather than one wheel (so when one grips, the one directly next to it won't and starts to move away).

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>>160767273
I knew jets were going to cause trouble like that, I just wanted to see how spectacularly it would shit itself
>>160767397
It's a shame these modded wheel weren't ported to 0.30, they had amazing grip and allowed cars to achieve insane speeds

>>160767163
Mario retardy?
Explain

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Fucking nito

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>>160768704
Play it in god mode and this is what the aftermath looks like

A bit grotesque

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>>160767075
i'm gonna leave this server up for a couple hours

this shit is fucking fast

>>160767715
I just wanna see more mechanical drivetrains.

fun when?

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Oh god what horror have I unleashed

>>160769694
GREAT NEWS FELLOW EGGMEN, CLANG REPRODUCES BY LAYING EGGS

>>160769674
What are you, some kind of casual?

>>160769796
>clangegg cannon when

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LUDICROUS SPEED.... GO

>>160770845
10 oudda 10

>>160770845
That doesn't look like 2500 kmh

>>160771047
that's because the scale is completely off

2000kph is probably a reference to each block being one "meter", this is closer to being accurate for example >>160767075

Ooookay, so I've made through FtD tutorials and I think I remember something from them.
What should I do now?

>>160772293
A bote

>>160772405
U funny.

But okay, my shitsung is getting uppity, time for a break from '''''gaming'''''

Should I start with campaign, or do I even have a choice?

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>>160772293
Make bote

>>160772508
If you don't have anything built, when you start with the campaign, you'll probably end up wrecked by angry neighbours.
Start making botes in the vehicle designers and build something combat worthy before starting campaigns

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>>160772508
>>160772510
Play around in the vehicle designer first, make something that works. Then make a better one
Learn to make bote good, or at least functional, so you have something to bring into the campaign
You can also spawn in ships and stuff from enemy factions in the designer. You can learn a lot from taking them apart and studying how they work

>>160772631
K.
So I need a several classes of vehicles that will allow me to not die on spot.

From what I saw /itg/ I can conclude that combat efficiency/price is the most sought ratio

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>>160772825
this

>>160772863
>combat efficiency/price is the most sought ratio

Only at the beginning, at some point you will just stick a million missiles, a laser, and a fast firing advanced cannon on a huge ship and make like 10 of them.

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No grease on these rails

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>>160774917
>mfw
Fucking terrifying

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Thomas thought he was a dolphin.

I think he learned his lesson, don't you?

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>>160774917

>empyrion HWS
>ship got punked by an asshole
>lmao your 1 day progress cv only protected by a turret rofl u mad bruh bruh??? bruh???????

and that's enough of that server.

>>160769694
Can you cut it into 5 parts and end up with two of them?

Post besiege drivetrains

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Space is cool

>>160779121
space is fun?

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>>160780049
As long as you don't have to be a physician

Far as I can tell empyrion is spengies-like. But for power-poor systems. Am I correct?

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>>160780339
>Imperial units
I FUCKING KNEW IT

>>160775192
10/10, A hearty chuckle was had.

>>160771047
It might be to scale with the gravity.

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>~650 m/s to a stop in about two seconds
How hard would a human body disintegrate if exposed to deceleration like that?

>>160780662
kinda

you still need a decent computer but it runs a lot beter than spengies

>>160781620
If my math is correct, that's about 33g
If only applied for 2 seconds, you might be able to survive that

>>160782119
I might be on round christmastime. Maybe. Fucking pc's been bricked since July.

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>>160780339
>pound-seconds

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>>160774917
Sweet jesus

>>160781620
>325 m/s^2
Surprisingly enough, it looks like that's likely survivable. Not even remotely safe, but high-speed car crashes are worse than that. That "about two seconds" really matters here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(acceleration)

>11 768 m/s2 1200 g Deceleration of the head of a woodpecker
wow
>102 000 m/s2 10 400 g A mantis shrimp punch
jesus christ literally HOW?
>1 000 000 m/s2 100 000 g Closing jaws of a trap-jaw ant
I am scared. Very scared.

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>this game will never have multiplayer
>I'll never get to wreck niggas in muh planes
https://a.uguu.se/gtrnHLkMqoZG_tank.webm
>>160782785
>Several Indy car drivers have withstood impacts in excess of 100 G without serious injuries
Well fuck

But I suppose the acceleration in those impacts only lasted like 0.1 seconds or something

>>160782184
Last I knew some scientist put himself on a rocket sled for 100G, he ended up blind for a few weeks.

>>160783617
Lower mass means higher acceleration

>>160784059
That's understandable for the ants, but mantis shrimp can literally punch with the impact of a handgun round.

>>160783889
46.2 g actually.

During testing one of the things they wanted to measure was the force on the straps. This was to be done with electronic strain guages.

So they do the test with a chimp and measure zero force. Somebody didn't wire them up correctly and a poor monkey suffered 4 no reasons.

This is where murphy's law comes from

>>160784181
The kinetic energy of a mantis shrimp club is much less than that of a handgun round

>>160784813
Then somebody on the internet lied to me. Maybe it's you.

>>160783856
Yeah. When you ram a wall, the speed change is near instant. You get an obscenely high momentary acceleration, but it's over quickly.
>>160783889
It was "only" 46.2g.
The scientist, John Stapp, was completely fucking bonkers, and did a lot of work on studying the effects of acceleration.

>>160784813
people hold them in glass aquariums.

>>160785817
They have a known ability to break said glass tanks.

>>160785893
yes, but they don't puncture them like a handgun round.

>>160786018
Nigger that does not in any way refute anything what the fuck.

>>160786018
>>160785893
>In captivity, some larger species are capable of breaking through aquarium glass with a single strike.
that's nowhere near a handgun round

weaponized combat laser shrimp when

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we're reviving fast in machinecraft

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>>160783617
>>160784059
>>160784181
>>160784813
>>160785817
>>160785893
>>160786018
>>160786149
>ENGINEERING games general
>it's a handgun shrimp
>no it ain't
>yes it is
>no one gets the force and compares it to the force of a bullet

>>160786149
>pedantic americans /k/ucks arguing with physicians
Reeee get out of my egg.

>>160788403

fuckin beaut

now to make myself an actual racer rather than just super fast thomas.

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>>160788403
Don't go too fast in REM, not yet. Else, bad stuff.

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I want to play spengies with someone in a new save. Who'd be up for something like that?

>>160791253
>thinking spengies can be played right now
Bakadesusempai.

>>160791253
Is there a better way to mine on planets yet besides the hand drill?

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>>160790435

>>160791582
Building a mining craft.

>>160788523
>force of a bullet
physicians get out

You mean "physicist". "Physician" is a medical doctor.

>>160793732
Seriously, how do we keep getting newfags?

>>160793885
This is how
>Hearthstone, found in the hearthstone general, /hsg/, not in this general.