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You farmin' your abrasives, son?

>Previously on /tosg/: >>160230446

>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=730

>Latest Q&A
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=725

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Karga)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>>160307649
Remember to plant your seeds!
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>>160307649
I'm trying
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>>160307854
Can i plant mine inside of Mia?
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>>160308235
I'm going to plant mine inside of (You)
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>>160307649
>>160307854
>>160308001
Its hotfixed

>>160308235
No!
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I want:

1x lv 8 green gem for my dagger.
4x lv 7 yellow gems for my armors.
2x lv 6 green gem for my crit resist set
2x lv 8 red gems for my weapons (ok, 7 will go)
4x lv 7 green gems for evasion/accuracy (pvp)
2x lv 7 blue gems for my mdef shoes
6x lv 7 gems for my alts weapons (blue/green/red)
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Hi! I'm LeBugAbuser!
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>>160308770
Too late, fun is over.
>green gem on dagger
Uhmm no.
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>>160308770
Why green gem on dagger? Red gives straight up Phys attack, which is even better than Red on main weapon.
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anyone here have the sailor heart hat? how does it look?
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>was out all day
>everyone else has level 9 gems and exp tomes and battle bracelets and practoniums after today

KILL ME!
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>>160309174

I'm a Fencer and I went some con so I give up on some total dps to sustain a greater critical rate with a green gem. Epee garde demands too much and I don't want to see white numbers when a chrono is not holding hands with me.
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>>160309394

holy shit, that hotfix

I fucked up my schedule, overslept and left to play other games, waaaaaaaa

barely made a second lv 7
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>>160309471
Still not worth losing that gem slot.

Grab your stat reset and awaken items for more HP instead of getting con.

Or use monstrance scrolls.
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Are red or yellow gems better for shoes?
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I'm thinking about giving this game another try, spoonfeed me on cataphracts, p-please

>>160310000
Nice quads m8
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>>160310000
Blue
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>>160310363
Oops, I meant gloves. Crit attack vs Block pen.
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>>160310226

pvp or pve
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>>160310470
both
PvP
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It's ded, throw red orbs around fuck everyone everybody
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I was able to share a plant with one other person, but didn't get it while spamming in a crowd. Maybe you need precise timing, since I held the window open until the second it was supposed to become harvestable, then started spam clicking, and the other guy was spam clicking the whole time.
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So they closed up the bug.
But...
1. Did nothing to undo this shit, creating an insurmountable gab between those who did it and those who didn't.

2. Did nothing about the people who willingly exploited the fuck out of this bug, knowing full well it was totally an exploit.

This is why I hate korean MMOs. When shit like this happens, I instinctively avoid it, because if these were ever run by sane or competent people, you wouldn't be able to get away with it, no matter how much you screamed on the forums that you dindunutin. But the result is always "well, sucks for you. You should've cheated the system like all these other guys when you had the chance."
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>>160310607

catacancer build:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111777ff.2333495f6a.112f3f5865.152a314155

swordsman: optional: double slash to help leveling as concentrate sux at r8, but still something at pve

cata: optional 1 point into steed charge (they might buff it again)

dragoon: optional gae bulg attribute, more levels in dragontooh (increase casttime) or soar (slash)
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>>160310902
>creating an insurmountable gab
>this is what low level plebs actually believe, that 1 or 2 level 7 gems is an "insurmountable gap"
If you spent half the time you spend complaining about how "insurmountable" everyone's advantages are playing the game instead, you'd catch up easily.
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Is Lancer good or shit?
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>>160311247
>GVG
Good.
>TBL
Mediocre, but because the alternate option is dragoon2 and it's so massively inferior to dragoon2, it might as well be shit.
>PVE
Shit
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Now people are crashing channels fuck
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>>160310902
See
>>160311163
Even if people farmed it nonstop from the moment the event started, it wouldn't be enough for a single Lv8 gem.

>>160311247
PvP class. Inferior damage to Dragoon2 but more futureproof abilities.
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Updated Gem chart please
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>>160311163
>P-Please don't ban me, IMC.
>W-What I did wasn't that big of a deal, honest!
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>>160311471
I didn't even go to the farm yet, my level 218 friend, let alone abuse the bug myself. I'm just not poor enough to give a shit about a couple level 7 gems, and neither is anyone else who has 2 or more 290+ characters.
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>>160311152
What about the stats? I've seen so many debates about STR and DEX that i don't know where to put mah points.
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>IMC needs hours to put in gacha maintenance and break 10+ things
>but can patch out the spirit of Thanksgiving with sharing bounties of harvest without restarting the servers
cant make this shit up
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>just found out you can use iron hook while mounted

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11117778h.2333495f6a85.112d3f415a65.15253471.1135415365

What do you think of my GBL/5v5 cancer build?
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And i missed like half of the Event.
Pretty sure some Autists have a lot more.

Im glad its over. Finally free of Farming
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>bug that prevents people from questing together
>left untouched for two months

>bug that lets us get as many runs in a dungeon as koreans or sharing items
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE HOTFIX NOW
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>>160311641
Your attempt to mask your nervousness would've worked better with a smug anime girl pic.
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>>160312219
You don't get this shit for free, what the FUCK do you think this is?? A GAME???? I NEED MY FUCKING SPORTS CARS, PAY UP YOU FUCKING GAIJIN SCUM.
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>>160310226
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Because IMC made it so only one person can have the dialogue up at once you can literally sit on someones plant and cuck them. Go forth my children and start the cuckening
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>>160312352
How do they even fuck that up?
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>>160311885
It works but let's face it: Iron Hook basically kills the main advantage of cataphract: Constant moving.
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>>160311885
pls respond to my cancer lancer
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>>160312352
Do I do it?
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>>160312584
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>>160312506
I thought the main advantage was spinspinspinspinspinspinspin
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>>160312584
YES
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>>160312670
The spin is nice but what really kills people is not being able to fight back. Desync is the major defense Catas have.
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Did anyone here play Granado Espada?

Did IMC handle that game like they do in ToS?
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>>160312851
They can't fight back while hooked either, and the hook is for 3 targets, it's for bigger fights like GBL and 5v5. You can also use steed charge while hooking to gap close and do hook into knockdowns into rush into another hook. Also people won't be expecting a hook to come out of a Cata.
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>>160312870
Well, it's dead now, so what do you think?
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I want to hold hands with a Chronomancer!
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>>160312321
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>>160313485
I am not saying it's bad. Hell, I'd make that exact build if I were to ever jump into the cata cancer bandwagon. Just saying that it's a conflicting mindset, though it does give you quite a bit more flexibility than an average cata.

Have you ever played Corsair in PvP? Iron Hook isn't a magical skill, it takes some ability to use.
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I agree, lancer is either pelt (for guard switch and guardian) or lancer 1, dragoon c1 is trash class, always was.
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>>160313653
The mobs spawn in pretty big groups and they suck at fighting back. Plus it's a map that can be teleported to.
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>>160313783
Yeah, I have a Corsair C2, no bully.
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>>160314294
That's one Corsair too many, anon.
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>>160313801
>dragoon c1 is trash class
Is this true
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If someone has your seed hostage, blow a red orb and kill the seed. Better than giving in to raiders.
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If Julie was here the exploits wouldn't have gone on for more than an hour.
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Wait, they really fixed the event bug?
No more leechers, "Sharing is caring"?
Please tell me IMC made something good for once
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>>160314458

It only had a few multihits with decent damage but much worse than fencer c2 infinite spam e higher burst, doppel c2 dps, hop 2 cor 2 shinobi was better too even memelero after the buffs could do something more interesting.
in fact spamming the new spear throw of hop 3 should do more damage than serpentine+dragoon tooth from c1 dragoon, kek

they had to stack deeds 5 on a hop3-doppelgoon build to do decent damage., it is a fun class to play with a good outfit, but my friend, it felt as a rank 6.

Catagoon worked because s3 cata3 is a beast by itself for pvp and well, you didn't had much options since lancer was not confirmed yet

Dragoon c2 changed everything. Dethrone absurd high damage, low cd, tier 3 CC (root) and range plus serpentine's debuff that made the skill retardly better (the first hit already applies the debuff so the skill itself was doubled + decent scalling with lvs). the rest is just made better by serpentine itself
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>>160312651
>>160312785
I was caught.
I'm nice so I gave it up. jk I'm just beta.
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>>160314885
Exactly, now bots can open a chat with you plants instead and hold it on hostage until no one is around
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>>160315061
I bet the only reason they fixed it was because the event was too much stressful for the servers with Tenats perma on 105/100
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If anyone sees Texugo put down a plant please post the location.
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>>160315000
So what would be best for Sword > ??? > Cata3 > ??? > Lancer
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>>160314885
>Please tell me IMC made something good for once

They put out the fires caused from the bug with oil
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>>160315192
That build is only useful in GBL so take pelt and more swordsman for pain barrier. It's useless at everything else.
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>>160315048
I bet it was you who posted the first one anyway
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>>160315223
Yeah because gem market destruction and silver inflation from dungeon voucher were such a good thing for this shit game
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>>160315385
Yes, previously only rmt people could get high level gems. Now they're easy to get and honest hard working players can have a few nice gems too
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>>160315468
Greetings newfriend! There used to be no cooldown in the treasure goblin map gimmick in Demon Prison 2 and you could very easily make a rank 6 gem with two hours of effort. This was present for the first 6 months or so. Enjoy Tree of Savior!
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>>160315385
it's more like they fixed an unintentional bug with an even more retarded bug
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spent all my silver again...
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>>160315385
Yea, and AFK warlocks farming small maps with invocation 10 dungeons vouchers a day will help with silver inflation
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>>160315162
You better be a diev
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>>160315661
Was it a good investment?
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>>160315661
Please say it was on hats so you could play the silver lottery
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>event now works as intended
>bug
Go back to Uphill retard
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>>160315737
I sure am. He hates my guts.
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>it seems we released the event with a bug that allows people to share the rewards with everyone
>fuck that, hotfix it and rerelease it with a bug that let's anyone lock it out by opening the message box
Kim
Kim come on man
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>>160315257
Why pelt? Seems kind of pointless without murm.
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>>160316128
>pelt
>the best single circle in sword except arguably corsair 1
>pointless ever
what
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should i spend all my for a token?
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>>160316346
Yes
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>>160315967
no
>>160316048
it was on hats and fire res enchants
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>>160316346
Token is one thing no player should be without, ever. Buy one.
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>>160316128
Swash and guardian is nice. The class attributes too but I can see how its pretty forgettable
Murm is pretty standalone desu.
If you go the build anon suggested, I'm not sure if lancer has an attribute for one hand spear, if it doesn't, weapon switching seems very unappealing in that situation
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>tfw missed the event exploiting
>tfw now living in fear of people taking hostage my plant
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>>160316180
For GBL? Not really. Plus he wasn't talking about one circle of pelt.

>>160316554
Yeah, seems to kind of clash with the build IMO.
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Did they fiix the farming exploit?
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>>160316669
>defense, max hp, and evasion aren't good in the game mode centered around 2 fps and getting hit by retreat shot and shit you can't see off screen
You shouldn't give anybody any advice.
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>>160316865
Yes and added in the cucking exploit
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wheres ohayou on the gvg rankings? i want to join a pvp guild
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>>160316965
They are not.
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>>160316901
But I'm asking, not giving. Stop being so aggressive, you're embarrassing yourself.
You have a point, but switching seems like it would be detrimental. Still it might be worth it for the hp and whatnot.
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What is the path to the shinobi murmillo build?
S1>Pelt2>Rod3>Shinobi>Murm?
Or S1>pelt3>rode2>shinobi murmillo?
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>>160317043
who did fp even win against
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>>160317043
oh i thought that was their focus? is futureproof the right call then?
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>>160316965
Not with that grammar
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>>160317045
>asks for help
>gets help
>says "nah nah" when he doesn't understand it
>is a dick to the people helping him
Why don't you fuck off and figure out your own build then?
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>>160317118
Ohayou has some real good pvpers but pvp isn't particularly their focus. Ohayou's focus is now what Cover's focus was which was to just chill and play the game
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>>160317118
Their focus is memes and shitposting mostly. None of the tosg guilds are good at GBL but FutureProof is the best you're going to get.
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>>160317157
That never happened, I just expressed doubts because you didn't explain your opinion and agreed with another poster who disagreed also. Are you on your period? You have serious issues. I'll keep getting advice from this thread and there isn't a single thing you can do about it. Stay mad!
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>>160317118
idk. Don't expect anything.
>>160317095
aegyo I think it was again
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>>160317240
>but FutureProof is the best you're going to get.
You mean Crimson.
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>Forgot to pick the stat reset potion

Guess it's time to quit.
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How i make my hawk follw me?
Everytime i use circling or other skills the hawk fly away, call and then the it doesn't move from anymore
He doesn't even rest on the roost
It's annoying because there are huge delays between the cast of a skill and the hawk comming from the other side of the map to do it
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>>160317338
I changed my chronolinker to full STR
one day I'll be linker3 and useful I guess
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>>160317389
Pet are fucked up in ToS.

But you can always try to do a /comeon in the normal chat if the pet gets stuck.
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So I actually went and bought all 25m worth of Circling: Expand attribute, not even being sure of what it does. I don't even know what I want to do with this character, I just felt like making this for fun. Will post results as I explore it, I guess.

>>160317389
That's how it works, you have to Call the Hawk every time you use a skill. The Roost is there so it flies to the Roost instead, and you can use skills in sequence. The thing about it not moving or following anymore even after Calling is a bug.
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>>160316669
Honestly if you were to make a lancer ( since >lancer, I'm assuming its for pvp), just go sw3cata3x.
>>160317389
I'm curious, did you buy any of the pet attributes?
Anyhow, it's just fucked like that ever since some patches ago. It used to just happen every now and then but now its just a pain. I'm also certain they fucked with roost somehow too
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isn't the mobility lancer offers kind of overkill with cata3? dragoon2 does more damage so why wouldn't you go with that in all situations.
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>>160317796
>Honestly if you were to make a lancer ( since >lancer, I'm assuming its for pvp), just go sw3cata3x.
I'll probably do that with a circle of pelt for the Hp boost.
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>>160317976
Lancer exists to wipe the enemy team's block and magic circles. They are effectively an initiation/linebreaking support class. They are strong in GBL, one per guild, but otherwise inferior in all situations.
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>>160317976
I thought lancer was for effects.
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>>160318027
Lancers with Cata can get to the enemy teams side in TBL and destroy Ausrine before people have a chance to buff up with it
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>>160318027
Having 15 lancers on a team would be OP as fuck. Imagine 15 lancers trotting around rushing everything in sight and breaking every magic circle
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>>160318181
You don't TBL.

Dragoons cross the arena fast enough to throw a dethrone before everyone's done circling ausrine and it roots them all before they can finish. They're far superior to lancers for that.
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>>160318327
lol no
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>>160318327
Destroying Ausrine is scarier than meme dethrone root which can be blocked by clerics casting prophecy/BL at the start
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is this game worth playing without spending a single dollar?
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>>160318415
I'm pretty sure dethrone root pierces CC immunity. Could be wrong I guess but I think it does.
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>>160318415
>Destroying Ausrine is scarier than meme dethrone root which can be blocked by clerics casting prophecy/BL at the start
Now it's REALLY obvious you don't TBL.

https://tos.neet.tv/misc/buffs?q=dethrone
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>>160318415
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>>160317551

jesus pan

it repeats the damage on another target
you can easily see it using sonic strike (a fake multihit skill) it will do like 6k 6k 6k 6k on mobs and then 24k on another.

yes, only one extra attack on a random target, not a massive splash to anyone (that's why some people has circling on their damage list

but if you do lots of hits on lots of targets like a multishot lv 9

10 hits, 10 targets. each hit on each target may proc a 'expand' and that hit will affect another monster

A get hit -> expands to B
B get hit -> expands to C
C get hit -> expands to F
D get hit -> expands to B
E get hit -> don't proc shit
F get hits -> Expands to C

Overall you will do +75% total damage, but one target can take more and other may not even be affected
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I want Fedimian carebears to leave.
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>>160318849
This, it's like Joint Penalty but bigger without target or hit limits but affected by RNG
It's still a top support and a futrueproof build
Best paired with a Linker
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where2cope https://tos.neet.tv/items/501205 ?

And why does this shit even exist? https://tos.neet.tv/items/503132
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>>160318952
But then we won't get more lewd of Capyba
https://my.mixtape.moe/blqoay.jpg
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Help me out with my fencer dilemma lads

Dagger or Shield?

Basically 15% more damage or more Raw damage? which is better?

for the aggression attribute, is the 15% only for skills or for everything? i mean does my hpysical attack factor in the 15% at all? like the 15% is calculated with both skill damage and physical attack? or is it only for skill damage like 15% more lunge damage?

im asking whether raw damage is better than 15%
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>>160318983

yup, linker still stronger because lel, imc went back on removing the 200% damage thing (after icbt 2 and before r8 and a few patchs ago it just shared the damage), now you hit a aoe spell on 8 linked mobs and it's basically 200%
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>>160318423
please respond
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>>160319276
Yes. Most of us only spent money on the early access pack.
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>>160319276
TP/Cash shop is useless unless you like to gamble or want fashion. You can get the "subscription" item with one day of farming even at a middling level. This is one of the best F2P MMOs for F2Plebs right now.
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>>160319232
to make it more clear is it (Final damage)

physical damage + skill damage x.15

or

physical damage + (skill damage x.15)
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>>160318415
Dethrone is a rank3 debuff you dumb fuck. It cant be blocked outside of a PD's beak mask and can't be cured outside of a PD's fumigate. Play the goddamn game before you meme people. Jesus Christ.
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>>160319437
>surprised that the people suggesting Lancer is decent anywhere but GBL are retarded
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>>160319232
>>160319364

dagger will always outdps the shield but there's one expectational scenario: didel tower shield in cause of green gems. Dagger has one slot (11 dex +153 fire damage + one slot for green gem), didel tower shield has two slots, so much more critical rate

fencer c3 case is literally crit or do shit (r8 tier) dps so you could do almost the same dps (although smaller) wearing a shield and enjoy it stats (con and mdef, garde kills your shield's def) and access to C block, assuming that the extra green gem made a real impact on your critical rate (so, higher critical chance vs higher firepower, and dagger still wons)

but since the gem changes, well

people go full dex/nearly full dex to abuse red gems so green gems are out

the question now is: karacha dagger 153 fire (and +61 medium) attack + one red gem phys attack and that 15% vs two red gems for extra physical attack, right?

Well, the 15% goes almost at the end of the formula (and it's bugged, even works for non-slash skills, kek) so the dagger always wins now since epee gardes proc chance is the same on both
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>>160319774
Thanks anon!
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>had a full str swordsman
>forgot to pickup the stat reset
>now with the gacha IMC will never give a stat reset again


Forever a cuck
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>>160320218

assuming around 700k each gacha hat (market)
each hat gives 30 medals
potion cost is 990
you'll need 33 hats to get a potion = 23.1m
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>>160320821
Hats bought from market or traded can't be exchanged
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>>160321023
You keep on believing that then
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Somebody is camping my plant...
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>normies, quitters and casuals complaining about gap made by this bug because they didn't exploit it themselves
>jews complaining that they fixed it too fast
Fuck off all of you.
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>>160321718
What do you expect?
Tree of Savior is all about exploiting to close or create power gaps between players if you don't want to invest money.
We are full shit freemium mobile game now
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Question Fencer 3 anons

whats your current Total Physical Attack unbuffed?

I just want to know whats the standard (acceptable) phys attack for end game, i heard for doppels its 2.5k-3k unbuffed
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Does Rexhiper summon still auto-skills?
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There's nothing wrong for a fletcher3 to be full dex, right? (the most fullest fullness with 8 ellaganos, etc.)
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>>160323667
>DEX build
>Ella cards
???????
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>>160323710
I'm creating a new meta of having as much DEX as possible.
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>>160323752
Which is pointless on a Fletcher because you won't GBL with it and in PvE the evasion is capped on 80% and going overcrit is retarded
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>>160323985
>you won't GBL with it
Why not? Missile Hole is a TBL-only meme.
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>>160324118
If you don't think every guild in GBL has missile hole up 24/7 without even trying I don't really know what to tell you. You know in GBL the whole guild is considered in one party right?
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>>160324118
>TBL-only meme.

LOL
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>>160324192
I blocks 16 (20 with DM) hits and that's it. You can't refresh it before it expires.
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>>160324280
>his guild only runs one sage
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What do all of you listen to while you PvP?

Here's what gets me in the mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7GmXJvc7w
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>>160324528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9dnc5URIlw

Depends on the PVP, though. I like chill stuff like this for 2v2, but for 5v5 or GBL I like something a bit faster, such as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDiJiGuUeBo
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>>160324584
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>>160324360
shitmo, you can't refresh missile hole before it expires even if it doesn't have any block charges left.
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>>160324584
>he doesn't like hip hop
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>>160324359
Use it in the 145, obviously.
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>>160324528
>Unironically listening to this kind of filth.
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>>160324359
145 is definitely the way to go
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>>160324725
This is simply incorrect.
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>>160324820
If block charges run out, the buff icon doesn't disappear and you can't remove it manually. And when you re-apply missile hole again, it will refresh the timer, but it won't refresh the block charges.

Did they change how it works recently?
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Can somebody post the cookie cutter SR build please? Also is ranger absolutely necessary to be the best SR I can be?
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>>160324528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKNxeF4KMsY
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Ohayou is recruiting!
Missing the company now that they fixed the harvest bug?
PM or add Karga, and I'll get back to you.

>>160316965
>>160317118
GvG (GBL particularly) is our focus, out of anything the game can offer anyway.
We can't participate much right now since Beet is away (I can queue maybe once a week for us).
He'll be back soon, we're focusing on improving our lineup, we're even passing on Cat's open GvG so our members can get grind parties no problem.
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>>160324528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Join9bi95k
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>>160307649
I want to fuck that tenant!
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there are no hp potions on the market.
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>>160326543
at 10 and 100 you get an achievement/title
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>>160326356
drink this
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>>160326543
Just keep donating go- anon, you'll see!
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I'll join the 5hammer meme, is it possible to trade it via team storage after slotting it 5 times? Or 0 potential locks items even from team storage?
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>>160326847
0 pot items can still be team stored
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>>160326659
get cucked
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>people still get mad at losing GVG skirmishes after playing this game for like a full year
wew
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What?
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Does fwee take up a character slot like other pets?
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>>160327804
ye
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>>160327804
Unfortunately.
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What's the most up to date evasion formula? The one on ToS Mechanics gives strange results for r8 values (830 evasion vs 380 accuracy gives 23% evasion)
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>>160327636
He's probably not mad, he calls everyone retard, trash and garbage all the time its just the way he was raised.
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>>160328070
Is he a MOBA player?
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>>160328070
>he calls everyone retard
Is Jace tosg?
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>>160328197
retard
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>>160328197
retard
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JACE?
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>>160328197

He's probably that poster who calls everyone retard.

I blocked him ages ago and I'm surprised more people haven't. He's fucking annoying and never shuts the fuck up.
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>mfw Dragoon c3 should really be good
>mfw the implications of Hop 2 Fencer 2 Dragoon 2
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>>160329634

>Should be good

IMC will fuck it up by giving it one useless ability while the other rank 9 classes have broken shit everywhere.
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>>160329634
100% + 100% + 50% + 15% + armor break
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>>160329701
And the class would be still good because Dethrone and Serpentine will just boost whatever rank 9 class comes after
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HOLY shit golden red truffle = 350k
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>>160330109
>hes not a doppel

lel
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>>160327636
>That poor Chaplain kneeling in despair.

She just wanted to grind but was unable to keep her Boiboy alive.
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>>160327636
>GVG skirmishes
>killing a bunch of 225s at a grinding area

Rance mad his rank 8 gets oneshot I guess
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>>160330181
I meant in silver dingus
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>>160330704
what did you think he meant?
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>>160330704
>hes definitely not a doppel
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>>160330658
>jace's chrono
>225
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what cards are generally safe to use as fodder for other cards? i have a bunch of necroventers, harpieas, mineloaders.
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Did that Orsha soldier cutie quit?
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>>160331812
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>>160331849
Api is still playing! I stalk her daily.
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>>160331913
>Obscene
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>>160331812
All the ones that drop from a World Boss or a Dungeon Boss.
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>>160331997
A cute name for a cute

ty anon
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>>160332000
Sher is a very Obscene cardslut
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/47389
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Can someone explain what is this AoE attack/defense ratio?
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>>160332853
AOEAR

Small monsters = 1
Medium = 2
Large = 3
XL= 4
Players = 2

You have 10 aoe attack ratio which means you can hit 10 small monsters, 5 mediums, 3 large and 5 players at once or a mix of all of em

AOEDR is the opposite
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>>160332979
So for a dps class, higher AoE attack ratio is okay while higher defense ration is bad?
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>the higher level the dungeons I can do the more I get bullied for not using a token and reset vouchers
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>>160333249
Something like that, most skills are limited by your AoEAR especially swordsmen, particularly fencers.

Aoe def is for tanks
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>>160333290
Why the fuck don't you have a token if you're at a level that can do dungeons?
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>game is dying, community is split
>imc fixes the only thing that has put so many players together since the game release
>not even an announcement
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>>160333892
If you want tomes, dungeon resets, and abrasives, just use Gachapon!
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>>160333695
You did something to make the bulletin board mad. Try sneaking up on it from behind.
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>>160333892
>WAAA I WANT FREE STUFF WAA
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>>160333504
Because 2 runs per day is enough for me.
>>160333892
What did they fix?
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>>160333892
>game is dying
retard
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Is anyone else bothered how the only way to buy hats in the future is by buying tp with real money so that you can use the tp to buy gacha and roll items so that you can trade the items to buy medals and use the medals to buy the hat?

before it was just buy tp buy hat, now you have to use real money to buy in game currency and use it to buy another in game currency and use that currency to buy medals
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>>160335282

I can just buy from the market either way, so whatever.
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>>160335282
Shit game, shit system.
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>>160335282
>Buying TP hats

99% of them look like shit
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>>160336154
>look at the most greedy cancer on pc gaming
no
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>>160336351
kys blizzshill
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>>160336154
HEY KIM WORKS REALLY HARD ON THOSE OUTFITS. HE DESERVES THAT 30 DOLLARS. I DONT SEE VALVE WORKING HARD ON DOTA OUTFITS.
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Guys guys? Should I go with a2hunt3fwee3 or a2hunt2scout1fwee1musk2? I know the latter is annoying in pvp, but what does a huntfwee offer to the table!
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Why don't you have friends this close?
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>>160336981
literally nothing, hunter C2 is a PvP meme only and C3 is worthless
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>>160337039
homosexuals get out
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If there is anyone interested in a comfy guild i am recruting
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>>160337064
How about the fwee part?
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what frustrates me the most about Kim is all the lost potential

this could have really been a fantastic game
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>>160337701
>all the lost potential
What would you have done to fulfill its potential? Don't just start whining about muh framerates either. What would you do to realize its potential also to make enough money to keep it running?
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>>160338098
Not him but I'd start by hiring a dozen decent programmers and a proper QA team.
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>>160338098
Game needs a proper game designer.
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>>160338098
The game is undeniably cute. All they had to do is capitalize on this. Add more emotes, even interactive ones like hugs and hand holding. You could even put some shit in the cash shop like an "expression" you could equip so your character's neutral face is smiling or pouting

Your character select screen is a lodge. You can customize it. You can even visit other people's lodges. Why not add items in game to decorate it further, personalize it a bit? Make the furniture interactive. Let people visit your lodge in real time. Have a little board to write messages on. For fucks sake, make a Halloween event where you go to other peoples lodges and give out / receive some candy.

The game has a mail system. Let people mail each other gifts and messages.(I know, muh RMT prevention. Like its fucking stopped anything at this point)

There is no reason to hang out in a guild hall. Add more farming items. Add a little crafting station. Add non-combat pets you can pet and play with in the hangout. Jesus, this took me 3 minutes to type up, but a bunch of gooks couldnt serve this up after 7 years, and everything I named could be $1-5 cash shop items. There's your money to keep it running.
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>>160338874
>All they had to do is capitalize on this.
Are you literally a rtrd?
The lack of "game" is what killed the game.
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>>160339091
Try using your brain for just a minute? My short list of ideas is not the only things wrong with the game. An MMO needs a niche or a gimmick to keep it from being just another generic koren grinder, and ToS's potential was in the 2.5D presentation and the cute visuals that came with it. If IMC bothered to expand on this at all, the game would have the revenue stream needed to make greedy jew execs have their teams keep putting effort into it, rather than churning out new shit like Wolf Knights.
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>>160339502
>An MMO needs a niche or a gimmick to keep it from being just another generic koren grinder
Yeah. But you need to have an actual solid base for a game. With proper, functional, balanced game mechanics. Then you can decorate it with gimmicks.
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>>160338874
>Your character select screen is a lodge. You can customize it.
You know, how come they never added more lodge backgrounds? They play the game so little that they forget about more ways they could be getting money.

Lodges were originally going to be tied to how many characters you could have, and nothing became of that.
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>>160339502
>churning out new shit like Wolf Knights.
Wolfknights has been in development as long as ToS has (and still isn't even done.)
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>>160339691
>Yeah. But you need to have an actual solid base for a game. With proper, functional, balanced game mechanics.
Nah. There are other solid functional games one could be playing. You need a gimmick.
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>>160336154
Poorfag please.
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When we will be finally free?
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>>160340062
>Existing gimmicks attract enormous attention before release despite zero marketing
>Everyone quits because nothing works
>Clearly they need more gimmicks
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>>160334750
Tibia, a 20 years old mmo has 3 times tos playerbase
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>>160334750
Dota 2 masterrace
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>>160340432
People didn't quit because "nothing works", people quit because of IMC's mismanagement, restrictions, feature removal, and the fact that when the servers hit 50k players, their response was to close them off until the population dropped to a more stable amount.

Also Brazillian's eternal butthurt and ddosing their own servers while cheating IMC out of money and giving bad reviews on steam, preventing new people from joining.
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>>160340875
>Brazillian's eternal butthurt

what happened? I quit after iCBT and wasn't here for release
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>>160340875
I mean even in beta when parties literally didn't work, the game crashed when bosses shot bullets at you, servers crashed and locked your character in an area forever, people were willing to still play. IMC intentionally drove away players instead of getting better servers and didn't even have a wat to make money off those people when they did play. If they had this hat gatcha back then, this game would have been more than funded.
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>>160340791
do magetower main questline
do father aurelius questline
do demon prison questline (not because stats but because lots exp cards + fast)
do bees questline

coast by on more halloweens until you can get to the good quests
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>>160339642
Had a ruff day eh?
>>160339691
Very obvious you never designed or marketed a successful game.
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>>160340864
kys cumgarden
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>>160341115
>Very obvious you never designed or marketed a successful game.
retard
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>>160341134
isn't that patsch's avatar
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>>160341267
No that's Adelaide
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Where can i see all of these "new" loading screens?
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>>160341624
You should use clear vouchers in solo anyways
You only get like 10 or 15% more with a full party (with the right classes) from matchmaking
But you lose on a lot of silver that way that you could use to buy MORE clear vouchers
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>>160339802

Lodges were suppose to be more than just a background/character capacity.

They were suppose to be your home base where you'd do stuff and shit, but I guess that's just another in a long list of things IMC never delivered on.

I think Kim might be related to Peter Molyneux.
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>>160341040
They complained for a local server, and for a character transfer, but then the ones in their region kept getting ddosed (which may have been caused by people trying to log in repeatedly when the server wasn't working properly), which the host would respond to by turning of the servers.
The server for them was then moved back to America and as far as I know is still there.

As said, their responsible for most of the early negative reviews, which mostly consist of "this game isn't RO" or "this game sucks"

They also were using some Brazillian money transfer service to cheat Steam/IMC and making a bunch of accounts and getting lots of TP buy buying early access packs but then getting their money back.

They also would whine about racism all the time too, but then it's not like they didn't get huehuehue'd at.

Also general whining about being free players, not wanting IMC to do the 3 month open beta but instead going for 1 month, complaining about pricing differences in different regions, falling for the "our local publisher is worse than IMC" meme.
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>>160339642
Get fucked faggot, if you advertise it then fucking use it you piece of shit. You advertise for THAT run, trying to trick people into doing the dungeon with you is fucking asking for them to just leave.
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>>160341707
I think they just honestly forget fucking everything about the game.
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>>160342043
And why wouldnt they?
They're enjoying driving through the strees of korea in their facy sportscars while they have GM interns deal with community issues
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>>160342110
They don't even know how to monetize the game enough to buy a bike. They could have been making money right when it opened, but they chose to wait until now.
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Guys, I did it! I hit Rank 5!
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>>160341848
that's pretty shitty. was release that bumpy everywhere? at least they fixed the DIC back in beta
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>>160341705
You don't play the game, do you? Matchmaking literally gives you like a 300% bonus to EXP.
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>>160342263
The joke is that even if they monetize the game poorly they still made shittons of money because pinoys and americlaps are absolutely retarded superwhales that love throwing money at literal shit in large quantities
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>>160342337
Great job! You can now join TBL (Team Battle League) and start farming points! OwO
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>>160342372
You're fucking retarded but I guess its understandable that you don't know what you're talking about because IMC keeps feeding you misinfo.

However you're still retarded for pretending like you know shit. I actually tested this with 2 coupon clears on 145 and I got 2.6 mil exp in a solo run and about 2.9 mil exp in a matchmaker run.
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>>160340875
>restrictions
Aside from market jews who everyone else hates, the main problems with restrictions were they didn't stop bots and RMT (they didn't work), and they had severe implementation failures such as items getting stuck with unusable market price limits.
>feature removal
The most common reason for removal was bugs.
>close them off until the population dropped
Because nothing worked when the servers were under heavy load. Their workaround for the load-related bugs was reducing the population.
>ddosing their own servers while cheating IMC out of money
So you're saying their security and payment systems didn't work.
>mismanagement
This could mean anything, including nothing works.

>>160341047
Beta turned into a ghost town after the bullet crash bug. Most of the people I played with in beta didn't come back for release.
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>>160342380
Even so, I can't help but be pained they didn't want to get money when there was like 20x the population.

Winter, when people get out of school, is like pretty much their last hope to attract a larger base, but they probably will just keep cheapening out on servers instead of wanting a nice sized playerbase.
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>>160340791

Don't skip any quest. It's true you might not get stuck at lower levels, but at higher levels you will.

You need 1.2 billion exp to hit 281 (after 281 levelling up is as easy as doing quests). You will get 720ish million exp from all the quests upto Mavens.
You need to grind that remaining 500 million or so exp from somewhere.
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>>160342380

To be fair, I've seen videos of Korean players, and they are the true ultra whales.

It's insane how they spend money on gacha.

Truly gacha is a Korea thing.
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>>160342380
>Peenoise
>Whales
Good joke anon
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>>160339642
Namedrop him please I need victims to bully I'm fucking bored.
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>>160342721
>Truly gacha is a Korea thing.

yes
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>>160342756

Whale is a relative term here. Since the game has regional pricing they can spend like $1 and walk out with 10000 gachas because $1 to them is a hell of a lot.
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>>160337180
>Coffee
>comfy
>/tosg/
pick one
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>>160337180
but comfy is dead
>>
>want to play
>every second post is "the game is shit" or "dead game"
>still want to play

This is what cute does to a person
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>>160342470
Should I? Will people bully me for not being Rank 8 with 10 billion silver in attributes and gear?
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>>160342981
What happen with comfy anyways

Did Katz quit?
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>>160342518
>The most common reason for removal was bugs.
No, the most common reason was muh RMT/lost potential restoration.

While potential restoration is technically a bug, it's not a bug in the same way crashing is a bug, it's just them not being able to screw over players properly.

>So you're saying their security and payment systems didn't work.
No, that's not what I'm saying. It's not their fault the BRs were committing fraud. Literally, since it was between BRs and Steam.

The rest of your shit is stretching too hard, and so I'll just say you're reaching too hard.
>Durr how am I reaching too hard? I meant nothing metaphorically works as well as mechanically not working hurr
>>(you)
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>>160342625
You should skip any quest that you can that gives less xp/hour than Alameth. Doing every quest is stupid.
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>>160343018
Yes, don't do it I was kidding.
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>>160343018

of course they will, that's the fun

but it's fine if you're a cleric like cleric 2 diev 3
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>>160343017
Don't listen to those people. They're the ones that go around every mmo calling it dead and doomposting to no avail.
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>>160343064

>he didn't boleto'd

It was not just the BRs, kek
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>>160343018
Depends on your class
I personally started arena doing with rank 5 because I was kino3 at that time
Worked out pretty well actually

As long as you're full con and something like cleric2priest3 or cleric2diev3 or kino3 or hunter2 (2v2)
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>>160342903
Coffee is comfy retard
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>>160344086
>Coffee is comfy
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>>160343347
>>160343018
>Drop Ausrine

Congratulations you can automatically win half your games already and be higher ranked than Swaaz.
>>
I need a addon to delete almost every effect on my screen from other players except from heal tiles and safety zone

fps savior kills everything ;_;
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Hows the anons in Varena?
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>>160344475
>Varena
Anon....
>>
If you guys want to kill Jace he's at Dina Bee right now.
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>>160344338
>>160343272
>>160343223
>>160343182
>>160343347
I'm Archer without Hunter, so I'll just go afk. Thanks guys!
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So Elemental attack ignores MDEF and is only reduced by elemental resistance?

Maybe its viable to stack elemental attacks for high hit counting spells
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>>160334750

I know you want to shill cause you believe in it but let's be real.
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>>160344841
Can you please stop? I'm really sad that my favorite gook grinding simulator is dying.
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>>160344841
that hurts
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>>160344841
Can we revive /rog/ now?
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>>160344841
And nothing of value was lost
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>>160343064
Potential is a core game system and cheating it to remove the limit on a limited resource is the very definition of bug exploiting. I'm sorry they didn't let you use game genie until hook64 came out, but blatant cheating isn't the intended game design. Besides, the list of features removed over potential is very short. How many features did they remove over RMT besides trading? Not many compared to the long list that didn't work as intended.

>It's not their fault the BRs were committing fraud. Literally, since it was between BRs and Steam.
Then why isn't the standard way to buy anything on Steam using a BR middleman who gets it for free? Other developers don't have this problem, and others manage to set up other payment systems when they need to.

>The rest of your shit is stretching too hard, and so I'll just say you're reaching too hard.
You're doing nothing but bullshitting, so of course you can't do anything except set up your standard greentext strawman and run away.
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>>160344841
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>>160344841
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>>160344820
The problem is you can't really stack elemental damage because there's so few sources of it and you can't upgrade elemental damage with trans/enhancements.
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people are selling any monster card for a minimum of 100k on my fucking server

thanks to the 290 dungeon. holy shit kim, why you didn't put a card into those boxes
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>>160345581
It's just Kirito trying to get more tp from gvg
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>>160345581
>Dasom
>Mosad
fucking jew agent
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>>160344841
>There were people who bought early access for this
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will i win the contest?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZkkTkYpaYI
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>>160346174
>no gachapon costume

nope
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>>160345164
No cutie you're stuck here forever
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>>160346174
No. You're not allowed to use zoomy.
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>>160346318
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>>160346174
someone teach her how to properly jerk off please
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>tfw had a dream of fighting Rance and Cats 2v2 in tbl
Anyone else dream of ToS sometimes?
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>>160346910
Yeah, I sometimes dream that it's actually a good game.
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>>160346910
You need to get a life anon.
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>>160346174
Yes! You will win a fucking ban for using the zoomy hack.
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>>160346174
dumb doggo enjoy your ban
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You know the worst part of /tosg/? Before launch the presence of external shitstains was minimal, but then something had to go wrong, most likely LoliPantsu's stupidity, and the generals got bloated with forum trash new to 4chan like joeswaaz and other imbeciles.
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>>160347948

Closed beta was the prime time.

We were all young and dumb and no one knew much of anything so we all just had a week of fun.
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Hi im new to fencering, i find Flanconnade pleasant just strutting and hitting people with my rapier, sad that its slash though

how is composee compared to flan? do i max it?
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>>160347948
GvG time before restrictions was the best shit ever
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>>160348000
>forum/reddit niggers ruined tosg
fuck yes. gas them now
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>>160348065
>1 week
Uhmmmm
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>>160348417

>2nd CBT

I'm talking about the first that was about 5 days long.
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>Swaaz
>Rance
Prove that this isn't the same person
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>>160348560
First CBT was 100% Highlander Barb though, and Archers were so dumpster they might as well have not even existed.
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>>160348563
retatd
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>>160348880
rance wins tbl
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>>160348560
>no one even getting to rank 5
>prime time
Right
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>>160349115

You wasn't there so you couldn't understand it.
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>>160349007
>you couldn't even finish the 130 in the 1 hour time limit
there was no limit
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>>160349373
I have an armband, what happens when you wear one?
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>People really thought they were gonna get an armband
>People really wanted an armband while knowing what happened when you actually equipped armbands

>>160349430
Nothing, nowadays.
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>>160349115
I thought 2 people made it to Rank 5? I thought someone made it to Corsair, but I don't remember the other one.
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>>160349479
no, there was not.

i did solo 190 runs each day after i hit 200. grinding class exp. for like a week. sometimes i was slacking a lot and the run took 1.5-2 hours.

they added dung time limits when dungeon server was full in KTOS
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>>160349430
It used to crash your game on every loading screen.
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>>160349007
stfu avatarfag, your cringy stream shit and stupid webms are the worst fuck off
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1st CBT was the best, we had party events and the focus was on grinding areas in a group. Even reaching r3 was an accomplishment. I don't know why so many of you are so nostalgic for CBT2, it had all the linearity of the current game with less stuff to do and the knowledge it was all going to get wiped.
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>>160349648
>>160349430
no, but it made loading take like 3minutes
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>>160350072
cause they didnt let me in
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did they patch the event yet?
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>>160350417
yes
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>>160350417
no
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>>160350072
iCBT2 had the best bugs, but I had a ton of fun in iCBT1.

The quest bosses took forever in iCBT1 though, especially as someone who played Priest with a Cleric friend. People also called Priest shit back then, but as with my Cleric friend the old Divine Might we got level 15 Sacrament, and thought it was amazing. People spend forever grinding Tenant Garden to get past the bosses in Tenant Chapel, which were actually hard.
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>>160350417
maybe
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>>160350667
I miss my friends in iCBT2
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Nostalgia faggotry is making me look through old news for shit they said in the past

>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=346&vp=3&c=31
>Q) Are there any Doll Masters in the game such as Catherine Torche in Granado Espada?
>A) There will be a classed called Puppetier which is a high ranked class, but controlling Puppetier will be slightly different from controlling Catherine Torche in GE.

>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=350&vp=3&c=31
>Centurion

>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=331&vp=3&c=31
>Q12) How big is the world in "Tree of Savior"?
>A12) Our plan is to have more than 200 territories in the game when we launch OBT. It will include 3 major cities.
>Advertising Wolfknights

>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=333&vp=3&c=31
>Shit that still doesn't work

>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=330&vp=4&c=31
>Q7) Is there PvP in the game?
>A7) We are not planning PK system which players can be engaged in PK anytime they want on the fields. However, we are planning some kind of Tournaments which will be held periodically.
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What's the DPK for manahas items?
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>>160350667
>iCBT2 had the best bugs
Someone post the one where two snowballs roll into each other
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>>160351589
There isn't one. It is entirely random and can take anywhere from 2 resets to 8 hours.
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>>160351472

>People started calling me Hebrew Young since I picked Hebrew as the first language to test

Top bantz. Shame all these people are probably no longer working at IMC.
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>>160351439
Yeah, most of the friends I made in iCBT2 also quit.
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>>160350417
Can you repeat the question?
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>>160351829
bring her back !
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help me, anon

what's the name of the orsha questline that gives +3 stats?
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>>160352617
https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/4nyguv/how_many_bonus_stat_points_do_you_have/d48178f/

and Kalejima Visiting Room Main Story line gives 3 points
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Help me

Fencer vs Doppel, which one becomes a meme later on and which one actually deals damage?
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Kim HATES you

He HATES prosperity, he HATES GOD
HE HATES CHILDREN
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>>160352890
>https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/4nyguv/how_many_bonus_stat_points_do_you_have/d48178f/

Thanks.

>>160352890

Doppel is the highest dps in the game by far. Not even a lolopanther fencer would do the same damage. Transcendence + deeds broke the game forever. Deeds had to be capped at lv 10 (so 100% def loss), but they fucked up, anon.

Fencer at least is okay for pvp.
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>>160353046
>Deeds had to be capped at lv 10 (so 100% def loss)

what?
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>>160352890
Anons is it true?

That Fencer is all about class and grace in the battlefield?

While Doppel is all about becoming the personification of brute force?

that Fencer is about knowing your pace, taking only 2-3 enemies at a time

while Doppel is about taking them all at once

that fencer is literally the virgil of this game, silent, cold and sophisticated

while Doppel is the dante, rushing head on into armageddon

that fencer is muhammad ali, "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee"

while Doppel is mike Tyson "I'm gonna fuck you till you love me faggot"

that fencer is my chemical romance

while Doppel is poison

that Fencers are vampires

while doppels are werewolves

that fencer lifts for aesthetics

while doppels lifts for strength

that fencer is crossft

while doppels are SS

Fencer is griffith

Doppels is Guts

Fencer is Hashirama

Doppel is madara

Fencer is bleach

Doppel is one piece

Fencer is vegeta

Doppel is goku

Fencer is the 2nd silent edgy motherfucker protagonist

Doppel is the main NAKAMA DATTEBAYO NEVER GIVE UP protagonist
is this true?
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iCBT2 was the best period of this game for GvG and general exploring of the game and content. Everything was new, unexplored and, better of all, fucking hard. No hand-holding, no boosters, no power levelling, nothing. People were rewarded for the time and effort put into the game, and even the shittiest builds had potential back then. The feeling of reaching Rank6 was amazing, and once you cleared the 186 EXP reset and finally managed to card to 200, it was like winning the world. We looked at people at Lv200 and thought they were badass, similar to how you'd see people in RO with Auras and think they were cool.

My favorite period of the game was Pre-neutrality patch iTOS, but iCBT2 holds a special place in my heart, specially because of some anons who no longer lurk this general, but also because of the general's atmosphere as well. Everything was bright and positive, we looked past all the bugs and issues, there were several drawfags and we made OC every day.
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>>160352890
Both deal damage, Fencer is propped up by their buff at C3 that gives them shitloads of crit damage or something. Fencer also doesn't have a level 315 weapon.

Doppel has good sustain and burst, and has a 315 weapon so it's probably cheaper to gear. It also doesn't need an offhand.

It'll be funny when R9 comes out and one of these builds just gets completely fucked over. Like, what if there's no 2h sword class at R9? What if the R9 skills aren't compatible with Rapier?

Honestly the only futureproof Swordie builds are Catagoon and Rod Mumillo because even if Catagoon doesn't get a R10 class (if R10 even exists) it can go back and pick up a rank of Lancer and be fine. Murmillo is only 1C right now, so it can last until R10 and it'll still be good because of the % scaling with Rod/Pelt skills.
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>>160353239
>iCBT2 was the best period of this game for GvG
I meant for PvE, fuck me.
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>>160353239
>no power levelling
How do you power level in this game?
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>>160353295
Doppel is futureproof from deeds 15 alone
As long as weapon damage and transcendence exist it will never fall off
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>>160353435
Workers Lodge, Uphill leeching, Halloween event
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eh I thought there were no token on market for klaipee, but it turns out its just broken search function.
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>>160353435
party with a Warlock2

1-40 in West Siauliai Woods
40-10x Royal Mausoleum Constructor Capel
12x-18x at Dina Bee farm (with afk sorc/necro)

sometimes it really slow, but you do absolutely nothing while getting lvls
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>>160353693
Some new items can't be searched in market. Hipster Glasses is one of them.
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>>160353295
>What if the R9 skills aren't compatible with Rapier?

thats impossible, matadors wield rapiers
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>Been opening up practonium cubes since the start of R8
>Still no practonium
>Friend finishes his quests two days ago and gets it today
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>>160353770
didnt they say they were going to fix it in the patch note
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>>160353295

any r9 class + deeds 15 will outdps a memegoon build.
even if that class is something like a axe viking that demands a new weapon type: axe. cyclone 15 can be used with any weapon, deeds too.

any class that does pierce damage (don't even need to be huge) and allows rapier will be a beast with epee garde. this is the least futureproof scenario thou, but rumors of matadors aren't new

dragoon c3 has a chance to be good but can't compete with the above classes now and will hardly do after that excpet if imc totally fucks up and gives then a 20k base damage 30 multihit skills that prolongs serpentine's nerfed debuff from 5 seconds to 20 or so

they reshaped dragoon to be a burst and buff combat class and have no reason to change that

I can see murmillo c2 getting only numbers and a shit new skill


so basically: new slash class = cleave from barb + deeds 15, cyclone will stay relevant, weapon type doesn't matter
pierce skills without weapon requirement? epee garde
spear (pierce)? hoplite 2 dragoon c3/lancer c2 / [cata 3]
strike? rodel (slithering, high kick) murmillo (headbutt).
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I wanticipate to revive my old swordie character and make a doppelgoon. Is this build okay? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449ff.23314555.15243541.1f2a3f516171.14354155.1525314555
Also how should I stat? 2:1 DEX STR? 50 STR then rest in DEX?
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Help my fencers lads!

I started going 2:1 Dex Str in hopes of getting future STR buffs but i change my mind so im stuck with 75 str, 150ish dex and 0 con

is this still salvageable if i go full str now?
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>>160354423
why str? go dex
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>>160353594
>>160354003
I'm betting they'll nerf deed's effect but increase the ease of use.

>>160353840
Matador isn't confirmed C9 though, could be a second hidden class or further up, who even knows.
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>>160354518
shit, i meant full dex now

is it still salvageable if i go full dex from now on*
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>>160340864
>Dota 2 masterrace
/d2g/ is fucking awful shitfest.
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>>160354285
>>160354423
>trying to play anything Swordie without Cata
lol
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>>160354423

75 invested str or 75 total str?
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>>160354681
/tosg/ is literally a fucking trashheap during american hours
I think its actually one of the worst 5 generals on all of 4chan and it has to compete with powerhouses such as terag, xivg, sc2g, ksg etc etc
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>>160354553

Imo they should cap it at lv 10. Makes no sense gaining 150% when def can only be reduced to 0 (-100%).

>they could add extra damage from negative a-

just stop lol, people already do infinite ausrines combos
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>>160354646
I think you will ended up at like 600, 650 dex at 317
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>>160354964
75 invested im level 205 so its 75 str and 150ish dex
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>>160353865

ask his proctonium and give your's when you finally get it!
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>>160355276
oh wait thats not str, I'm retarded
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>>160355127
One of the problems with deeds is that Dex is really valuable to it, all 3 stats that Dex give benefits it ALOT
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>>160355325

just

I have 50 and I'm almost necking myself

it's okay i guess if you don't mind going 0 con and putting every single small point into dex
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>>160355634
i-its techincally -75 critical rate at r8 r-right??
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>>160355680
Don't take chaplain.
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>>160355056
>/tosg/ is literally a fucking trashheap during american hours
>I think its actually one of the worst 5 generals on all of 4chan and it has to compete with powerhouses such as terag, xivg, sc2g, ksg etc etc
Don't even compare it with /tosg/. I've got banned on this general more than ever on 4chan even for posting something completely SFW and harmless because local janny or mod is so too sensitive and wants this place to be "clean".

/d2g/ is a shitfest with braindead shitposters and no moderation whatsoever. It's easily the worst general of /vg/.
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Is this even a good roll?
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>>160355941
No this place doesn't talk about the game at all during american hours

Its just
guild shitposting
name dropping
drama
name dropping
autistic erp posting
name dropping
swaazposting
namedropping

It's a fucking cancerous general that never talks about the game
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>>160355738

more, lol.

the more dex you have, more bonuses you get from that stat

I think you can do fine. people now uses full dex + red gems on weapon/dagger, you can use green gems on yoru dagger to make up for some of that critical rate loss, str is shit but not that bad, it gives block pen and some dps too, lol it's not like you went spr for sp XD
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Guys, I'm calling a new merchant class for R9.

>Artificer

>Skill 1 can spawn bombs
>Skill 2 can detonate said bombs
>Skill 3 can anvil patterns of items together to craft new one's
>Skill 4 anvils a weapon with rare ores and parts of other weapons to randomly in- or decrease it's power
>Skill 5 can give a random, permanent buff to an item after killing a couple of mobs
>Skill 6 can fire rockets that deal quite some damage
>Skill 7 can make gems fit slots even better so that they are stronger
>Skill 8 can craft consumable, artificial body parts that can regenerate some Stamina/SP/etc...

Alchemist had such a potential,IMC just really hates them
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>>160356091
hp is ok, rest is poop
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>>160355680
Its shit.
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Guys, I'm calling a new Rapier class for R9

>Matador

>Skill 1 0cd skill that allows you to dodge attack with 100% dodge for half a second like Flannconnade (red cape taunt), dodged enemies will take 25% more pierce damage and skill used immediately after dodging would be 100% faster in animation

>Skill 2 'Focus' each time you dodge an attack you gain 1 stack of 10% more damage on the next skill youll use max of 10 stacks
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>>160356846
Rate my new R9 Archer class

>Fuk u

>delete missile hole
>delete invincibility
>delete opponent character/monster
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>>160356846
>>160356198

>R9
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>>160353239
I remember when lolipantsu was so annoying over shout that I finally blocked him
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WHERETHE FUCK IS THE AGNI NECKLACE YOU FUCKIBG KOREAN KOBOLD NIGGER>>160356961
>>160356961
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>>160357054

I think the first ever dungeon run I ever did was with Lolopants and he got a Beetleback out of it while all I got was talt.

Ever since then I've wanted to kill him.
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>>160356954
Rate my new R8 wiz class

Fuk u

missile hole, deletes archers
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>>160357219
>I got something better than Lolipan
>Ever since that I've wanted to kill him
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>>160357119

Agni Necklace next week! Please Kim I'll really quit the game this time if it's not added.
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>>160357328
See you in 7+1 days, without Agni
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>>160357315

This was back in iCBT2 so we didn't know anything back then.

Quit being a retard.
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>>160357328
>>160357119
What does the Agni necklace do again?
I can see on KR itemlist that it increases fire damage but what are the actual values for each skill?
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>>160357267
DELETE THIS
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>>160357456

Fireballs do 380% damage.
Flame Ground, Fire Pillar and Hell Breath do about 250% damage.
Every other fire skill (meteor, incinerate and so on) deals about 200% damage.
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>>160357448
But we did. You didnt?
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>>160357780

I can get about 2400 matk right now and still haven't transcended my rod past stage one, upgraded it much and still need to add another gem to it.

I'm also an Enchanter so add 500 lightning damage to that (plus 153 fire from arde) and since I'm a Thaumaturge and soon they'll be getting a buff, you can add another 370 or so damage on top of all that.
A few upgrades + transcends to my rod and these buffs and I can easily break 3000 Matk + 700 elemental damage, probably closer to 3500 matk.

That is enough to damage anything in the game. It'll still be shit damage on the mobs with 3000 mdef, but there is less than 10 of those in the entire game anyway.
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thauma 2 already 500 + matk
linker 2
pyro 3
r8 is free

full int so 1.2k base matk (you can transpose the fuck up if needed, 315 staff stage 4 and you can do more damage than old elememe at r7 content, right?
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>>160358135
>r8 is free

What?
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>>160358135
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222aa77
uhmmmm
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>lolipan's sweaty smelly loli pantsu
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>>160351472
USTC WHEN
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>>160360171
What's USTC?
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>>160359972
anyone else fucking LOVE Lolipan?
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>>160360369
I do, she's really dumb, but really cute. She's helped me do a lot of stuff and is my favorite guild leader!
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>>160358649
free to choose, sage, linker 3, enchanter, thauma 3
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>>160360438
Nigger you have the starting rank in wizard1 too.
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>>160360438
>>160358649
>>160358741

oh I went pyro 3 on that one? kek well you can give up on linker 2 or pyro 3 or thauma 2
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Haven't played since founders months, is the game still bot-ridden, buggy, stuttery mess with maintenance every day and retarded changes every other day?

>>160359972
loli pantsu a best
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>>160360419
neck urself cuckgarden
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>>160360586
not each day but yes
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>>160360369
YES
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>>160360369
Yes. Lolipan is the Messiah of /tosg/. Just like Jesus himself, Lolipan was rejected initially but over time people are starting to see his love and selfless in the face of opposition and with that his following only grows. Someday we will all unite behind Lolipan and all of /tosg/ will join Futureproof for paradise on Klaipeda.
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>>160360298
United States ToS Championships
>>
Let's face it, /tosg/ is almost dead. We need to reform under one or two banners. Who should lead Guild A and who should lead Guild B?
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>>160361565
3j and swaaz
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>half the boys in Futureproof have gone missing since declaring war on CNL
Explain this.
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>>160361565
3j and swaaz.
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>>160361625
It's really uncomfortable when you're trying to plant your seed and CNL swarms around you...
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You're welcome, /tosg/.
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>>160361894
Share your bot.
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>>160361565
We need
Rance
to lead us
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>>160361928
I'm buying off the market, I'm just crafting it into pots for you greedy people. But like 20k Uosis were already potified simply for you to get cheap pots.
>implying anyone in their right mind would farm uosis
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>>160361614
>>160361682
fuck you niggers

>>160361565
we need swaaz and 3j
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>>160361565
Lolipan and Cats
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>>160361565
Korasai and Murbish
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>>160362430
no we don't need you
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>>160361625
I've actually come back since the war on CNL, but I'm low level so it doesn't actually matter.
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>>160361565
namedrop and namedrop

kysmm
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Ok I have a +8 9/11 weapon. What are the odds of pushing it to +15?
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>>160361565
The problem is, this general have a lot of cry babies faggots who make dramas for nothing incluiding the mod and also faggots from reddit who invite normie friends to the guilds of the general see ohayou, clover and the deceased F.O.E and also this >>160363227 you faggots love to be memes with legs.
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>>160363475
>9/11

Fucking triggered. Have some respect, asshole.
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Give me fencer builds
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>>160361565
We should merge guilds instead. Everyone should merge into FutureProof and CuteNotLewd.
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Did everyone give up on the seed event since they spent all yesterday farming it? No one's mentioned killing people's plants or anything
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>>160363867
fencer3
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>>160363930
Nice meme
>deleting the containment guild called Ohayou
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>>160364151
This. Ohayoutards should stay away from tosg guilds.
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>>160363541
>Not including cry baby king swaaz
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TFW you actually can exchange hats you buy from the market
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>>160364315
he was from clover.
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>>160363475
14,78%
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>>160363867
>memencer


https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111138eee.2333455f6a.14213541.15253174.11213142617185a5

all your dps comes from fencer skills (pierce) because epee garde is huge and only works with pierce so all you take before fencer is utility os buffs

>s3
pain barrier 15 for the huge uptime, you don't want to be knocked down while doing huge deeps
restrain is good and complement your infinite composee spam on mobs, good for pvp too. optional: rest of the points into concentrate or gung ho or double slash to help leveling (slash damage to combo with lunge on cloth mobs is great prer8)

>pelt 1
one of the strongest one circles of the game. guardian = +18% evasion and a huge def bonus when needed (you switch this over gung ho), taunt and the super C guard for over 2000 blocks when needed
>corsair 1
purely utility. jolly roger for 2,5% extra miss, some extra drops/silver and iron hook/dust devil for CC, good for pvp too. cute outfit
>fencer 3
all the core skills is there, rest is purely optional depending on playstyle

any doubts?
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>>160365068

what the

barely 15% chance? anon! I just want a shinning rapier
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>>160365152
don't you lose the armor denial from highlander? i thought that was pretty huge?
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>>160365296
Actually I forgot to include you were starting from 8 and not 5.
Oddly enough that just raise your success rate to 15.68~%.

Just stop at +10.
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>>160365296
Look at it this way, each + is a 51% chance. Good odds!
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>>160365549

It is, but as a fencer you have that skill

https://tos.neet.tv/skills/11104

[Physical] - [Strike] Attack an enemy with the guard of your sword. The enemy's defense is ignored when attacked again with [Pierce] attacks.

you will only use pierce when you hit fencer 3. Lv 2 + venier = 8 seconds debuff, 8 seconds cooldown. I recommend lv 3 on that one through to true 100% uptime, lv 2 usually ends up with one un-boosted composee
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>>160365570
>>160366001

What if I try that method?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC4HeuakYY4

>fails two upgrades on trash weapons, proceed to upgrade your main weapon

PRD manipulation
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>>160366368
swaaz
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>>160366230
That would only work if its "RNG" is simple enough that you can make a prediction that there's always a success after you fail twice of if there actually is a success mechanic.

If you really want to succeed, take something you care about more and pretend to upgrade it and don't give a shit about the thing you actually want to upgrade. you'll get that thing to +19 while the desire sensor makes the other item fail.
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>>160366368
Onkoviren
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>>160366230
That never worked.
My only guess is that he has some kind to program manipulating the packets sent to the server in the background.
Failing enchants probably is just there to tune it.

You're free to try however, the silver is yours.
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>>160366368
formerly patsch

felt like he hated everyone though
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>>160366368
Sandvich I miss you, come back
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>>160366461
>in the guild
fuck off
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>>160367042
Never!
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>>160367170
>one guy
>them
retard
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>>160367272
I don't want to get banned for posting gore on blue board, so go to gore thread on /gif/ and see some examples of things I want to do to you.
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>>160366764
>>160366521

Yeah, some people said that they managed to do it, others are raging that they tried this and failed hard. I don't mind "wasting" 15m to get a +15 weapon (Venier) I even have some golden anvils to work on it but the fear that it may end like +12 0 potential kills me.

They should give us some way to do reliable upgrades like the transcendence system. I hate dealing with this kind of rng on mmos, lol. I always farmed hard and bought what I desired already upgraded
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>>160366912
I told you kirito he don't hate you.
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>>160367282
retard
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>>160367379
why are you so angry
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>>160366368
literally can't stop shitting up the thread with pointless namedrop reply baits
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>>160367503
Just wait for that thing that doubles gem slots first before you waste any more potential .
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>>160366912
I'm just busy with my cutie all the time so I had guildchat 90% of my online time turned off
There's only few people I see negatively or at least care enough to see negatively

Also it looks like American namedrop hour has begun as prophesized
>>160356157
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>>160367503
>+12
That's already great.

These should give you a genera idea of what you're getting into, but they were made with 11 potential in mind, not 9.
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>>160348000
ive been here since ICBT1 you autist
$20 says youre threejane or one of beets tranny boipussies
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I'm going to wear Viper on a Wugushi for maximum poison!

Also, is https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/306012 the most valuable attribute of all time?
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>>160367953

well, assuming that we need more slots since the new system is now a reality on ktos >>160367819, we have only 7/11 potential to work around

I, well, I don't want to play this anymore
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>>160366368
There's at least 5 who hate me in my guild
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Did GBL rankings reset this week?
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>>160369959
Only for some guilds :^)
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So which warrior build is overall more flexible/capable of handing content solo when needed, Dragoon 2 or Fencer 3? Which one is more futureproof?
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>>160370052
that costume is really ugly you looks like a trans person.
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>>160370417

dude, epee garde is 240%, fencer hit way harder

and if you went high dex you have a absurd evasion with guardian and restrain 10 + iron hook takes care of mage mobs

but dethrone is really broken, I give you that one
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Is STR viable?
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>>160372476
>Is STR viable?

Viable at getting you killed
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>>160372476
It's viable in PVE for certain classes
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>>160372476
No

>>160372724
No it's not, even doppels scale better with dex.
inb4 Rogue.
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>>160372476
>>160372724
>>160372895


Viable for archers and some points for finestraman, but don't drink too much from this water.
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>>160370167
At R9, Dragoon's guaranteed more damage in Dethrone, but C3's can always be either good or bad. Since swordsmen got overall great R8, R9...might be more on the bad side. Meanwhile, Fencer3 will rely on either another Rapier class, or weapon-neutral class, but Epee Garde is great scaling and boosts all previous Fencer skills as well. Fencers also have an innate defense ignoring skill.

>>160370417
Flash has a very quick animation, overheat, and good range for hit and run. Balestra Fente's aoe is gigantic and 10 enemies guaranteed, on top of keeping you mobile by lunging forward a good distance. The attack range buff Fencers got a few months ago was great, I haven't felt constrained since.

But yes, Dragoon has more mobility overall, and Fencers have to do very close quarters and riskier dodging. Lunge buys some time to get nice hits in against physical and bosses at least. Nobody has fun against mage mobs.
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2 months since I last logged, did they fix the performance?
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>>160373292
"we're working on it"
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>that one awkward as fuck guy in your guild who has no friends
>constantly acting like a retard and no one likes him
>he finally leaves the guild
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>>160374060
I wonder who could be behind this post.
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>>160374060
tell the drama
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Anyone know where Raventails guildtower is by any chance?
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>>160375028
You are the shitpsoting retard who shits up the thread with irrelevant drama.
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>>160373728
>Be a new member to a guild
>Greeted nicely on day one
>Nobody will talk to you after their first forced hello
>Have tried to be helpful, nobody wants it, not from you

Why are guilds so tight?
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>>160375409
>join a new guild
>instantly accepted
>get along with everyone
>get into the inner circle within the first week
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>>160375409
Should have joined FP, anon.
I've been in it since the early korean days and I like everyone currently in it, old and new.

Besides the traitors, cursed be their names.
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>>160375915
That's exactly the shit I mean, nobody will talk to you, and would go so far as to talk over you if someone else responds instead, and not a fucking word if you dare try to start an open conversation
You'll get left out of guild activities, or just end up forgotten if the leader doesn't care/is part of it

>>160375943
Maybe if the guild ends before I quit myself
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>>160375943
why is FP the only guild with a hardon for hating people that left?
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>>160376626
Because they all went on to more successful guilds.
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>>160376813
>FP is the only /tosg/ guild in the rankings
>Crimson is literally falling apart
???
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>>160376951
crimson is 12-1 you retard
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>>160377050
>he doesn't know what's happening to crimson right now
kek play the game
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>Guy dies while necroventer has sliver of health left
>Doesn't wait for res
>Faggot teammate keep unloading on it despite knowing full well that someone's coming

Every fucking time.
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>>160377050
Crimson is kill, anon.
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>>160376951
Wasn't fp 3-20 before the reset ?
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>>160377268
>>160377115
proof?
>>
>the guy spamming this hot fresh "proof" meme about everything everyone ingame already knows
>>>/pol/
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>>160376951

>only /tosg/ guild in the rankings

Are you guys really bragging about beating a guild that queued with 1(one) person when you guys were 3-20 pre-reset, while Ohayou played way more GvG games then you and had close games where they regularly took wins from guilds like Lotus, Diamond, and Alpha?

Lolipan just talks and talks and talks but he won't queue vs a decent guild and just gives bullshit excuses as to why and has never achieved anything ingame
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>>160377174
most people are on auto pilot for these events and dont notice something like that
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>>160375915
>>160376596
Problem with tree of savior is that everything in the game can be done by a group of five, so the members of the guild will close themselves in a bunch of small groups and will barely talk to anyone outside of them. Honestly, there's literally no reason to have a guild in TOS outside of the shitty GVG.

Also, MMO players are mostly anti social retards who can barely hold a conversation.
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>>160378149
Eroc has been MIA due to family matters lately and a decent amount of the better players have just outright quit the game because they are not masochists wasting their life away on this kusoge like the rest of us.

They can probably still remain on top simply because the game is kinda dead and you don't really need all that much when your competition is just ungeared guilds who play for "fun", weekend warriors or hook64 guilds like Diamond.
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>>160377174
>guy dies while necroventer has a sliver of health left
>doesn't wait for res
>my poisons are ticking, better be quick nigga I can't take them off
>WHAT THE FUCK ASSHOLES WHY DIDNT YOU WAIT FOR ME??????????

Every fucking time.
>>
Asking again...
What is the shinobi murmillo build?;_;
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>>160378613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jHuqDQ0qyE
Here friend
>Swordsman1 Peltasta2 Rodelero3 Shinobi Murmillo1
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>>160379000
t.lolipan
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>>160379000
Hasn't been here for the cuckening
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>>160379000
yeah but can you clasp your hands behind your back?
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>>160379000
>anime posting futurecuck
you cant make this up
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>>160379347
Can Lolipan see why kids love the cinnamony taste of cinnamon talt crunch?
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>>160378613
PvP or PvE?
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when is the ex boyfriend atom going to come back into the picture and slap Lolipan's shit back in line she's been a bad girl lately and her ego has really gone through the roof
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>>160379000
kill yourself healniggamage
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>>160379120
thanks cutie

>>160379520
both, ot at least the best I can do while being relevant on pvp and pve.
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>>160379000
he shitposts, he just doesn't use his name when he shitposts retard
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>>160379553
That chapter of ToS is over, Anon.
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>>160380176
>competent leader
>COMPETENT LEADER

I wonder who is behind this post, HMMMMMM
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>>160379000
>Cares for his guild.

>Makes absolutely non useful garbage builds that won't help the guild in any way
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>>160380176
I'm >>160380113 and I'm behind probably half the pro-Lolipan posts but it's pretty obvious he shitposts just like the rest of us. I like FP and Lolipan, but every guild/leader has their flaws and they aren't perfect even though they try to pretend they are.
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>>160380176

>competent leader
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>>160380342
>>160380592
>>160380176
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>>160380724

Hey, I'm no more a fan of Lolipan than the next person but that was the gay catboy, not flower branches.
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>>160379000 (Dead)
> (Dead)
> (Dead)
BTFO and stay away faggot
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>>160379823
https://youtu.be/0pjrI_0s5pg
Sw>pelt>hop2>cor2>shinobi>murm
I made this build purely for 2v2 and 1v1 to counter my diev and other clerics since you can permanently have someone cced with knockdowns and hooks.
It's pretty comfy in PvE because of swash and jolly roger
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>>160381372
come back retard
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>>160381372
>murm
what the fug are you doing?
>>
Cannoneer is a lackluster class that needs either a damage boost or have the cooldowns reduced.
They handle pretty well in mobbing.
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>>160381958
can't you see all the deleted posts fucking retard?
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>>160381958
>say the faggot who nobody likes
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>>160381958
anyone else fucking HATE trappe?
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>>160375409
>he joined ohgayou
didnt we warn you?
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>>160382084
But, I didn't
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>>160382084
ohayou is one big clique now, there is nobody in the guild that isn't spoken to
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>>160382084
Surely the memeclique guild will memeclique me too.
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>>160381661
Murm has great base damage, filler while you have them hooked, also clones can copy synchro thrusting and murm gets a bonus to it and the helmet is great
>>160381482 soon
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>>160378303
its all FP has
even if you kill them 20 times, the second loligag kills you he will screenshot it and accompany it with a short sentence on how his progress for his build is going well and that his skills do indeed deal damage as the wiki says.
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>>160382070
does me thinking he was 100% completely useless in my halloween mission run mean I hate him?
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>>160382252
This is so true
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>>160382070
he scammed me out of 1mil, I'm calling the police
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>>160382191
>one big clique now
If it's all a clique then how is it a clique? Isn't it just a guild at that point?
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>>160381958
It was cats who coordinated the open GvG though
Give him the credit for that shit anon

cute and CNL are better
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>>160382249
What about when they buff Corsair C3?
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Tons of new mid-level purple weapons on ktos.

For why tho
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>>160382504
retard
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>>160382508
>cute
Do they even do anything? I never see them in the threads except for the threadly recruit message.
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>>160381958
>Open world wars thanks to cat's constant bitching to loligag about how he never does pvp.
>Advertises guild as endgame, never does ET, never does guild raids, never even theorycrafted solmiki floor ET builds with his community
>GvG never happened once, name one time since clover disbanded that FP has ever done gvg? Not once.
Loli is a great guy (except for the fact he is sexually attracted to children and feels the need to identify online as such a person) for keeping the dream alive, but all these pathetic delusional members hes handholding is clearly a forced meme. The sooner you gain mutual respect and not force your cuck members to "defend" you the faster you will become #1 tosg guild.
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>>160382693
Aesthetics
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>>160382731
dont bully cute, they did nothing wrong
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>>160382535
Murm will still be better in PvP the helmet alone makes the class great I think if they buff corsair they will do so by makeing clones copy corsair spells (hexen, pistol shot) still making corsair 2 strong
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>>160382753
I'm in FP and I bully Lolipan here all the time. It's really fun because it's like I'm a mole on the inside.
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>>160383003
Hey I'm ex-FP and all I do is defend Lolipan and talk about how great he is. It's fun because he will never suspect it's me
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>>160382918
Clones copying Hexen would be overpowered as fuck. It'd be cool to have Pistol Shot be worth something, though. It'd be like another Kunai.
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>>160382731
I'm pretty sure cute is sleeper good at PvE but they don't blog or anything.
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>>160382731
It's the comfy guild of klaipeda
They don't show up in the threads since they don't shitpost about anything or talk about themselves

Except one
>>
You know lots of these items in the files could be 10k dpk drops off the r8 zone mobs like venier and nobody would ever know or find them.
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>>160383374
Someday when everyone has +1000% transcended doppels, we're going to find those items!
>>
It seems they improved tab-targetting (longer range), and some monsters can now resist Physical Link or something.
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>Come back
>Sit on computer
>Refresh /tosg/
>Every other post is namedropping me
>18 matches found
>Even my old name was namedropped

Excuse me, what are you guys doing?
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>>160383842

the onlt ime I mentionedyou was when I explained circling to you

oh, and have another (You)
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>>160383003
You also bully him in guild chat, Rance.
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>>160383842
cant you let healniggamage suck your dick already? so he can stop these shitposts?
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>>160383842
>hes trying to act like he didnt beg his guild to kiss his ass and create an illusion of him not being a giant cuck
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>>160383842
retard, ilu
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>>160383842
If you were a girl I'd want you to step on me.
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>>160384117
That's not true, we do it for fwee.
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Critical Attack gems on an off-hand affect all physical crit attacks, right? Not just the ones from the off-hand.
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>>160383907
I am still grateful for that. I can obviously see that my DPS went up though I can't tell when the effect triggers 99% of the time because of the number mess. Still uncertain whether investing 25m on Circling alone, plus god knows how much I spent to put Sonic Strike on 50% attribute, but it's hella fun.

>>160384574
Yes.

>>160384220
Who says I am not?
I am not though.
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>>160384697
retard
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>>160383842
>i swear to my mum

take this (you) and fuck off
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>>160384697

It's totally worth imo, that's what upgrades our damage to r8 tier

but for parties, well, joint penalty broke the game since icb1 anyway
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Swaaz, where is your repair shop? I don't want to fall for the blatant Barry shilling.
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>>160385570
disgusting art

When we will have good ToS porn
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>yfw a guildm8 helps you
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More new images, from Pixiv.
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you can only reply to this post if you were in cbt1 cbt2 and preordered!!!
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>>160385973
There's been some good stuff, but it'll only ever feel fulfilling when there's actually doujins. The plots write themselves.

I hope it's vanilla, though knowing the people who make MMO doujins it'll most certainly be rape.
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>Hit SR3
>Game is fun again
Assault Fire is just too good.
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>>160386539
get some sleep
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pls based crimson destroy diamond so FP can get its welfare TP
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>>160386539

go pvp with marching fire

it's awesone at 2x2, shit kills people out of your screen
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>>160386539
>Hit Wugu3
>game is still shit
Jincan Gu is just too shit.
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>>160386564
I´m fine
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>>160382731
speaking of which, we are still recruiting!
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>>160386539
it took you a while you lazy fuck
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>>160386851

>fell for the wugu3 meme
>didn't go full sapper3 wugu2 falcon instead
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>>160386539
>yfw no attribute
>yfw it doesn't get +1 from buffs or pistols with +1 to SR skills effect
>yfw it shoots harmless jelly beans against r8 mobs

A-at least it's broken in pvp!
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>>160386851
why the fuck did you go wugu3
>>
>buy all gold bar in the market (50~55k)
>sell to npc (50k) so barely any loss
>sem your own gold bars for 70k
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>>160386962
PLEASE WE'RE BEGGING YOU
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>>160387328
You are the very definition of retard
>>
>>160387123
>Getting any wugu
Better go falc3 m8.
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>>160387123
Wugufwee is cute but honestly, Wugushi is the worst thing to pair with Falconer.
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>>160385928
i havnt sold repairs in awhile now, have little interest in setting up a shop when i can just run 290 daily
i mean no disrespect here, but barry killed the class
im sure you all will freak out and complain once theres zero profit alchemists and pardoners. but those require more effort so i doubt thatll happen
ill prob go back to the squire grind once i start my new job next week, so itll be all ill have time to do
tl;dr i dont bother afking because MUH FREE ZERO PROFIT REPAIRS and when im online i have better things to do. appreciate you reaching out to me though, keep being you.
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Does that fuckpets addon make pets untargetable in pvp?
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>>160387602
>shitposting about someone who isnt T1
>who has proven to beat meta builds with sheer willpower
>can 2 hit beet's inquisitor AND HAS DONE SO multiple times
>beet can only win if he hides in ausrine and only approaches during ausrine otherwise he runs away until its back on rotation
>needing to be a tryhard against a squire3
for fucks sake, my rank is low because it hasnt reset from when i used to que as squire3. for the 50th god damn time i cant even get into TBL matches because my rank wont reset. i que for 60 mins and not once do i get into a fight.
stop implying im shit how about you 1vs1 me then? my rank isnt resetting and you have no right to shitpost and damage control against a squire3 low-tier class like really dont you have something better to do like complain about ausrine or getting 1 hit constantly?
fight be bitch if u think ur soo good, judging me based off of my squire3 rank 7 rank which cant be reset? youre trash
headbutt does 15k damage twice, unless you run around like some pussyfooted faggot who only approaches during ausrine and uses dispellers so i cant use arrest in town pvp then you legit have no reason to gloat when you need to be meta T1 just to beat lowest tier ingame.
heres video of a scenario in which 100% of any cookie cutter sheeple glass build would of just gotten 1-hit from any of the clerics moves, and again i literally get into NO matches at all. id have a ton more footage if i didnt que for 60 mins straight and never get in a match
>HAHA XDXD why you soo autistic stop sperging out spastic

wtf u want me to do when these jackasses insist that im shit but refuse to fight me 1vs1?
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>>160387706
Destroying Ausrine is scarier than meme dethrone root which can be blocked by clerics casting prophecy/BL at the start
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>>160387602
Just so you know buddy, some Ohayou fags are openly trying to destroy you.
Barry is actually an alt of one of them, next they're gonna try to bully you out of PvP scene.

Trust nobody, not even me. Only other Murmillos are your friends now.
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where can i find a list of the /slash commands? like how to inspect people from far away, stuff like that.
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>>160388547
Hello and welcome to the Akiyama household!


My name is Tionishia Izalith, but everyone call me Tio, it's shorter and cuter! I'll guide you through the mansion, but first please let me introduce myself!

I am twenty-one years old and have been working as the head house-maid on the Akiyama estate 3 years now, in the company of the Kitchen maid, Ida Honoka, and the Lady's maid, Annabelle Winter. Together we serve our Master, his wife and their 2 children.

I come from a small village in France, close to Germany~

I am glad to be working at Akiyama, Master is really kind and his wife is really caring. Their kids on the other side... It's not allways easy to take care of those 2 little monsters~

Although I am a hard worker and I always do as I am told (in fear of being in trouble) I do spend a lot of my time watching anime, reading mangas (Master teached us how to read and write~) and playing video games. You can see that our Masters are really gracious toward us, teehee ~

Now please follow me, and don't get lost!
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Welp QS3>Can doesn't have much synergy.
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>>160388547
I'm having deja vu here
Is this a new meme I'm not aware of?
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>>160388629
Attack damage is added to each hit individually.

Each hit in Dragontooth deals 100% + 716 damage.
Thus the total damage is 600% + 4296.
Just like Snipe's total damage is 400% + 5997.

Holy shit I know the average /vg/ user is an autist but c'mon.
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>>160386504
Fuck yes, thanks for this one
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>>160387174
I'm going Musket, so it doesn't matter that much.
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>>160346910
>>160346910
It wasn't a dream

>>160382508
>>160382508
You da real MVP
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>>160388629
A new pasta birthed yesterday by some lancer shitter.
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>>160387353
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>>160388750
What're the common musket builds anyway? Isn't QS3 dead since R8 mobs have so much HP?
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>>160389742
ranger 3 because steady aim works with buttstroke's +100% attribute extremely well
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>>160389837
Oh, I see. I've seen 4-5 Ranger 3s in my group for missions and I've been wondering what they're working toward since Ranger 3 Fletcher 3 is dead.
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>>160386504
Where the original of this one? iqdb, and pixiv don't seems to have any clue.

I want more from this artist.
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>Person with 200+ kills on the Manahas squirrel mob

I don't understand the kind of person you have to be to kill 100 hours worth of a mob instead of just rolling an oracle.
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>>160388575
wut?
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what grynas pieces are worth using? is it a mix between that and virtov, or is it better to just go full virtov?
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3141666gg.1a284a5161.15243145.2f4f5a75.1a213a517581

How's this Musket? I'm not sure which are the good skills. Should I save the last 2 points or put them into Penetration Shot or Birdfall? I'm not quite sure how Penetration Shot works, it has the charge time attribute at C2, so I'm thinking it's like Multishot where you need a lot of levels for it to work?
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>>160390313
Full virtov is better than grynas overall but rarer and more expensive.
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>>160390454
>wugu3
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>>160390152

I bet that this is one desperate QS wanting a new cafrisun

QSs are retarded by default
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>>160390548
Wugushi is love, Wugushi is life. I have 2 Wugushi characters and I'm not changing. I love Wugushi.
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>>160390313
grynas is shit
you need 4/4 to get the low set hp bonus

get white 220 or virtov
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>>160390748
I know. I'm a bigger wugu fan than you are, but wugu3 is a bad choice even though I'm one myself.
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>>160390835
So what build is good?
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>FP in 3rd place
Is FP the BEST /tosg/ gvg guild??!!
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>>160390780
>a bit worse than virtov and cheap as a fuck
>WAAH It's horrible because there is something better!!
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>>160390936
DAMN

WHERE DO I SIGN UP?!
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>parthian shaft
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>>160390975
grynas vs white220 is barely a difference tho
and white does not force you to use all 4 items
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>>160390930
Keep wugu2, just switch out wugu3 for something like scout for utility.
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>>160391107
You sing on Loli's feminine cock
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>Cats is going to host a TP pizza party for everyone in /tosg/ with all the TP he's getting

Save me a slice!
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>>160390194

Bucheplus
>shilled for Barry hard enough to make swaaz quit selling repairs
today is a good day

3jane
:P

Csiko
Now you just have to get him to quit queuing for TBL
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>>160391798
Ugh, what the fuck Ohayou?
This is disgusting, never expected them to be this vile. They literally lied in these threads about not doing anything, and here is a proof.

I wanna throw up. Can we please ban these toxic shitlords fron /tosg/?
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>que 2vs2
>lv150 shitter
>tell him hes shit
>"haha its not ranked :D"
>round 1 starts
>he logs off immediately
>i lose 100 rank points
you cant make this shit up
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>>160392296
He got you good famalot
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>>160392296
10 talts says it's Ohayou alt.
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>>160391798
uhm.... if you think selling repairs makes money you are wrong. its a service for the people
shitters like you just afk on your necro and make 10x more money, then try and make actual merchant classes rage quit? how autistic are you?
i didnt "rage quit" selling repairs, i gave up offering a service that people need. enjoy depending on barry. im fine repairing my own gears.
this is why everybody here gives zero fucks about you threejane, the autistic shitstain. hsahaha xzxdxdx
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ToS Mobile Demo Gameplay

http://steparu.com/latest-news/2216-tree-of-savior-mobile-remake-g-star-2016-demo
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>>160390936
But Crimson is 1st, what do you mean?
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>>160386539
>>160387151
Hey, I was planning on doing SR3 too, can you clarify to me if increasing levels in Concentrated Fire and Wild Shot increases the number of hits and exactly how the hell Limacon and Retreat Shot work? It seems to be just auto attacks on the videos I've seen.
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>>160391174
Wugu3 is one of those things that's so beyond terrible they HAVE to fix it. I'm putting my faith in it. Scout doesn't really seem that great for PvE, and Archers are dead in PvP anyway because Missile Hole exists and they weren't even strong before it existed either. Also wugu3 costume might be something really really cute that changes the animations to be cute too.
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>>160392629
Why make a mobile version of a game with less than 5000 players worldwide?
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>>160392563
>"I didnt rage quit! You're the faggot haahahah XDXD !!!1!!one!1"
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>>160392629
>If you check out the Inven gameplay video below, the game seems to run close to 60FPS!
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>>160393010
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>>160390936

>Alpha beat Crimson
>Futureproof is higher than Alpha

Futureproof > Crimson confirmed.
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>>160392845
Yes, conc fire gives extra hits but takes longer to charge to higher level. I was doing around 18 hits at lv 13 or so and I never bothered to check my hit count once it reached 15 but I'm guessing probably around 20.

No one takes wild shot so no clue.

Limacon is basically just a buff that makes your auto attack via C button a lot faster and stronger (hits 2 enemies with circle 3 attribute too). It's a decent enough filler if you are a Ranger SR because you are lacking in filler skills, but mostly unneeded for QS3 SR because running shot is better.

Retreat Shot is basically THE skill that people go SR for. AoE damage potential and synergy with a chronomancer is really high. You basically shoot very fast in wide aoe with high damage in the opposite direction that your character is moving (you only shoot while you are moving). This skill is however extremely gimmicky and a general pain to use. It can only unleash its highest potential if you run into a wall or slow yourself down with other skills AND have a chronomancer in your party to cast pass so you can use it again faster since the cooldown is very unwieldly.

SR is a good aoe class in a party, but with rank 8 their single target is very unimpressive and their lack of synergy with linker doesn't quite let them become an aoe powerhouse. They used to be (and were expected to be) a lot stronger when the attacks were considered strike instead of gun and they could take advantage of lethargy. Archer 2 Whatever Fletcher 3 Mergen 1 is a more well rounded archer build for rank 8.
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>>160392563
>i didnt "rage quit" selling repairs, i gave up offering a service that people need. enjoy depending on barry. im fine repairing my own gears.
nigger please. nobody needs barry, there are 9001 repair sluts doing it for almost free. and if they quit, new will come or i make one myself
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>>160393815
I see, thanks for the input man!
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Do we have any Musketeers here that can help me out?

Does https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/311005 apply to Rifles?

Is Penetration Shot worth putting points into?
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>>160392563
Projection AND Entitlement the post.
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>>160394342
no
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what are some builds you guys never see in game ever e.g.
pyro3 cryo3
hunter3 falcon3

i'm wondering what the rarest ones sighted in game are
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>>160390936
No, Crimson is. I'm not even in Crimson.
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Hey /tosg/, I played your game a few months ago, but it was barely playable cause it lagged so much. Heard that there were some balance patches, has anything changed?
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>>160394553
anything with centurion ;_;
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>>160394553
>pyro3 cryo3
>hunter3 falcon3
i've seen both of these
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>>160394752
Fuck this shit.
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>>160394689
no go away
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>>160394689
>changed?
yes
but not to the better
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>>160394532
Please help.
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What the fuck do Squire2/3 skills even do?

What do you get for increasing levels in Refreshment Table? It says it "increases food effectiveness" but by how much? I doesn't even say what the food does in the first place...

What about Base Camp? Do you get ANYTHING for going past level 1 in it? It has no cooldown but lasts for over an hour, do extra levels really only make it last even longer? What's the point of increasing duration when you can recast it forever?

And Reduce Penalty? I get the reduction in durability loss and gems since they're droppable, but "silver penalty"? "Blessed Gem/Monster Card" penalties? What even are those?

Is Deadly Combo even useful? Because it sure as hell doesn't look like it
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>>160395215
>What the fuck do Squire2/3 skills even do?

they turn you into a autistic fuck, see Swaaz :^)
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>>160395215
>What do you get for increasing levels in Refreshment Table? It says it "increases food effectiveness" but by how much? I doesn't even say what the food does in the first place...
You unlock new meals at level 6, I guess it's worth maxing.

>What about Base Camp? Do you get ANYTHING for going past level 1 in it? It has no cooldown but lasts for over an hour, do extra levels really only make it last even longer? What's the point of increasing duration when you can recast it forever?
More camp duration, not really worth maxing. You can extend it over duration, and you save some money on kits.
Food buffs also last a bit longer for each level in this.

>And Reduce Penalty? I get the reduction in durability loss and gems since they're droppable, but "silver penalty"? "Blessed Gem/Monster Card" penalties? What even are those?
On higher level maps, you drop silver and other precious stuff.
This saves you A LOT of stress in the long run. I wish I could get it on my alts.

>Is Deadly Combo even useful? Because it sure as hell doesn't look like it
Very good skill, and it got an attribute in Korea last week, can't wait.
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>>160395564
Oh shit I wasn't expecting to actually get answered, thanks.
What do the new meals at level 6 do though? And do you know by how much each level increases meal effectiveness?
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>>160394342

It does, and no, you only put 1 point into it.
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>>160394689
The constant lag was what made me stop playing initially. Started playing again like 2 months ago and there's no lag.

There are obvious other faults, but at least the game is playable now.
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>>160394553

hunter 3 falcon 3 is a cliche, half of the falcon 3 are this builds, but falcon 3 is somewhat rare

pyro/cryo is really rare
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>>160392869
They actually just fixed wugu poison overlapping last week in ktos. Now poisons can stack, but only wugu poison and not other poison/bleed/debuffs.
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>>160390664
>new cafrisun
What set might that be?
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>>160395831
That post was bait.

Max table and tent, don't bother with c3 skills, they suck.
Don't make squire if you don't go c3 either.
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>>160396151
https://tos.neet.tv/items?name=manaha&group=Equipment&f=1

its a pain in ass to farm. there is some guide pic but i dont have it, someone post it
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>>160394553
I've only seen two icyhot ever, one being @@@buff when guy
I see a few hunterfalc but most don't play their char. Same deal with actual sadhus
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>>160396242
Well now I'm just even more confused.
Why max tent?
Why go C3 if you say the skills suck? Does the small damage increase on repair weapon make such a difference?
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>Played ToS back in closed beta
>Have characters on Orsha
>/vg/ plays on Klaipeda
Well fuck. It takes so fucking long to level, though.
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>lv 10 braodhead arrow
>killed a 47k hp chronomancer

top kek this skill
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>>160396537
Not if you have silver
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>>160396151
>>160396316
rose innerwall9
lawngnome miskan forest
awoo mollo forest
nutt lhadar
I think I got that right
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ded af
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>>160344841
>that May to June drop
Holy fuck, what a hit. What in the fuck happened? Was that when people realized the game had no content?
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>>160397487
Maybe.
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>>160395918
Thanks, you the best.
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>>160392274
buche isnt even ohayou
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>>160396125
Yeah, I already saw that. I'm wondering how it works though. Can I stack my poisons with themselves? What if I have a Pardoner in my group that extends my poisons to 50+ seconds? If the boss lives long enough will I have infinite poisons on it?

Still waiting for Jincan Gu revamp, Zhendu scaling, and Needle Blow and Wugong Gu scaling with attribute level. You can do it IMC!
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>>160397273
This looks like it's cropped from a porn pic.
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>>160397487
The devs didn't fix some shit for a longass time and weren't adding content either. All they'd have to do is keep us only a patch or two behind Ktos and we'd maintain players but they are constantly putting us on ice for months at a time leaving high level players with nothing to do but dailies. Then they get bored and quit because there's nothing to work for that isn't tied to bullshit rng cubes.
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>>160398320
Kim is busy with Wolfknightsâ„¢ and Tree of Savior Mobileâ„¢. Leave Kim alone.
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>>160398320
Just how much more content is in KToS than our version?
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>>160398425
He's also pondering about which Ferrari to get and it's giving him insomnia.
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>>160397487
Game opened for peasants, BRs flooded in, they saw the game wasn't RO, left bad reviews and went back to Tibia or whatever.

Also once it hit that max of players, IMC closed the server to new accounts until June. It may have hit even more than 50k players if not for that and have had more retention, but instead they just didn't allow people to make accounts during the month the game had the most hype, and hype died down.
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>>160398560
Nothing really. There's like a couple new quests in existing areas and a few items + that new weapon appraising system.
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https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/103301
The fuck?
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>>160397487

IMC had stability problems because of the number of players and closed the application for new accs until things stabilized
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>>160399428
That is, until enough people left.

Not letting Nexon handle the game was a mistake. They would have been able to get servers running to handle the, obviously larger than IMC expected, population and people would trickle in from seeing it among their other games.
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>>160392845
Wild shot is just awful, dont bother about it.
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https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/490131
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I can't decide on a class to play to reroll on Klaipeda.

>Wanted to make a Cannoneer build
>Realized that the build I chose was good single target damage but awful multi target damage
>Every fucking quest is kill 20+ of some bullshit mob
>I did no damage outside of skills so everything took forever
>Didn't get AoE damage until cannoneer

Yeah so. How do I class that can actually level at a decent rate? Because the laundry list grind is why I quit playing to begin with.
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i need an adult
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>>160392845
wild shot is terrible dont get it, more points in concentrated fire increase the duration so its good to put at least 10 in it. Limacon gives you a buff that increases your pistol auto attacks and lets them bounce. Retreat shot adds 1 more target per skill and hits everything behind you so its best to use it while running into a wall its also your best skill.
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>>160400472
I doubt people would agree, but I have played a lot of different builds.

A simple and easy one, that you can even use to grind money later, is QS3>SR
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>>160400472
Let me guess QS3?
You're really going to have problems with mobbing due to lack of AoE and whatever it has is subpar.
QS3 is better off going MUS than CAN
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>>160400918
I don't remember it was back when the game launched.

I was just annoyed that the only way to level was to quest, and the quests were just laundry lists of WoW shit.
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>>160393815
>>160400757
What exactly is the range of retreat shot? I've noticed it hits stuff behind well off screen.
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>>160400287
>>160400757
not that guy but why is wild shot so awful? It seems to have multiple hits... does adding points not add hits?
at least 1 lvl cant be too bad
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>>160400472
>Want to make a Cannoneer

There's your problem.
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+movement speed bow and rapier

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/163302
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/313301

Pretty cool shirt
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/533301
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>>160401387
>crit rate
>crit damage
>movespeed
That bow's not bad.
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everyone uses 5 hammer for alts, okay, but archers use what? chap crossbow is lv 40 too and has 3 slots, I guess that one will do fine + arde and a random bow for flyer, right?
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>>160401385
>le epic cannoneers are shit meme
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>>160401385
Cannoner is fun tho, and has it uses if you don't care about minmaxing.
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>>160401387

>+1 ms rapier

decent for switch but my man, what the fuck those stats lol
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>>160400837
>jace and friends wait until rance isnt online to try and start a fight again
theyre smarter than you think
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>>160401385
Cannoneers suffers from long CDs and somewhat subpar damage which you have to supplement with other classes.
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>>160401864
Well, with FP having 1~2 good players, it's not too hard to figure something. But for Jace thats a lot I guess.
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>>160401665
250 attack (it gets max and min attack) seems pretty decent. Do rapiers have amazing secondary stats?
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>>160398560
We can't get the new orange items, we don't have Miko, we don't have new white items for new areas, no updated defense formula, and we have tons of skill specific bugs KTOS got fixed within a week.
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>>160364706
How about those pots?
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>>160401523
+15 Grand Cross
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>>160402157
>updated defense formula
Nani? Beito dess?
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>>160402152

Venier has (+2 fencer skills and ~290 holy attack), but the base attack is almost nothing. but venier is still the BiS bar et 20/40 so let's consider the others;
>magas
226 attack min/max
22 critical rate
+136 damage on plate

>catacombs
242-242 attack
1.6k hp
202 critical attack
>sharp rapier
40 critical rate
203-203 attack

and those are the 170 ones, the 220 ones hav a a higher physical attack.

it's complete shit, but I'm afraid that it will be used on a stronger recipe...
+1 ms is good to chase people/explore/run and the model is cute
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>>160395215
refreshment table's food gives increased stats + increased duration per level
base camp's ability to extend buffs + debuffs increases by level, lv10 is 300% buff duration and 200% debuff
squire3 skills are trash, but get deadly combo if u need something for dps rotation. its getting an attribute soon so instead of a turd its a polished turd
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Can3 has an attribute for bazooka that allows players to use cannon skills while in that stance.
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>>160402269
You can trade in TP pots too. HP is worth 5 each and Sp is worth 10 each. Same with the gacha anvils, gem abrasives, and repair kits. Basically everything from gacha but outfits I think.
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>>160401387
DID YOU SAY NEW RAPIE-

>can't compare to venier as always

I should've expected.
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>>160402734
also, your refreshment table's food duration/stats also gets increased according to the level of your tent aswell. both skills seem to work with eachother in terms of their maximum capabilities
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>>160401539
Not a meme, they are shit
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>>160403106
How can you tell when you don't have one?
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Cleric > Wizard > Swordsman > Archer
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>>160403271
Someone who actually has a cannoneer here; they're not shit.

THEY'RE EVEN FURTHER BEYOND SHIT
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>>160403271
But anon, I do
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>>160402734
>base camp's ability to extend buffs + debuffs increases by level, lv10 is 300% buff duration and 200% debuff
Holy shit I didn't know Base Camp did that. Does that go for all your own buffs or only food ones? Does it work on buffs people give you?
How does it work? The buffs last longer if you use them near the tent?
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>>160403426
That's most of it, yeah. Doesn't work on EXP tomes, worked on dumplings though.
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>>160402785
I wish can/ musk had that for kneeling shot
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>>160403484
That's hella neat man, thanks.
I think Squire2 still sounds like a pretty good deal though, with 150% buff duration.
Was the thing about extra foods at lvl6 true?
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I want to join Futureproof for free TP!
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>>160404456
no you
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Lolipan can you log in?
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>>160404456
>Futureproof
>free TP
but I didn't get any
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Fucking monkeys, always cheating

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/edit-perfect-10-top-model-event-vote-here/336947/14
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>page 10
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>>160405406
Let it go
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>>160405406
>Bump limit
RETARD
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>>160392629
This doesn't actually look half bad!
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>>160405502
>No new thread
double retard.
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>>160405065
>the video is a showcase of the game's amazing 10fps hoglan (now up from 2fps thanks to our hardworking devs!)
>character literally dresses like a feminist
Holy shit if I knew it was so easy I'd have signed up
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>>160405594
>>160405594
>>160405594
>>160405594
>>160405594

Forgot to erase the thing about abrasives. Ignore it.
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>>160405406
>>160405441
>>160405502
>>160405553
>making a new thread at this time of the day
retards
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>>160405709
Classic 3j
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>>160405882
class 3jazz
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>>160387596
Whats wrong with Wugufwee? Like, Fwee3?
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