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You farmin' your abrasives, son?

>Previously on /tosg/: >>160307649

>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=730

>Latest Q&A
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=725

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan and Catss)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Karga)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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I'm not going to ignore it. I'm looking at it right now.
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Which one do I vote for
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>>160405719
>shitposting intensifies
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>>160405748
>>160405719
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>>160405981
W-why would it want my seed
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>>160402706
>>160402802
How about this dagger at least? Seems good for Fencers. Of course the 315+ ones are better.
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/113302

>>>160392629
Basically a legal botting app. I hope the game is on its own server.
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>>160405594
>Futureproof (Lolipan and Catss)
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>>160406094
Hmm, Karacha has the same dex, so it's 61 medium target damage and 153 elemental vs 30 crit rate, which is about 4.2% crit chance.
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Hi! I'm Le3jazz!
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>>160405904
Do NOT vote for furries like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdRH0Rj1z0M
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>>160405981
I want to exchange seeds with Murbish!
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>>160405981
>>160406252
Wait-
It...doesn't seem to have any sockets. At all? Uh.
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>>160406371
>murbish is in heat but doesn't seem to have any sockets
LEWD
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>>160406153
I hurried because I was afraid the old thread was going to die anytime. Don't judge me.
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>>160406424
>>160406094
What a misquote, whoops.
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>>160406354
>not voting for best CnL girl
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>>160406371
>>160406498

None of the new items have sockets or anything listed for them. e.g. https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/123302

Dunno why. They're also all purple 120 and 170 items.
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Vote for chupa schoolgirl, she's /tosg/
Don't let fucking br monkey's win
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>Korasai is back in Futureproof now
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>>160406759
If this is real ohayou 100% on suicide watch
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>>160406790
yes, nah
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>>160406759
>>160406759
>tfw Kora only jumps to guilds earning the most TP

I don't blame her though
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>>160406641
It's even weirder because IMC said they wanted to add more items to the 270+ range, and these items look too fancy to be midlevel, they don't match any dungeon around there.
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>>160407003
>>160406759
/tosg/ begins and ends with FutureProof. They were the first of the still existing guilds on kToS, they'll be around forever because they have people who unironically like this game and won't ever quit.
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>>160406790
F
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>>160407018
they are from the new free dungeons
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>>160407052
/r/equesting Sonic Cycle adapted into FutureProof Cycle
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>>160406790
>>160407003
she left to kill jace
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How long does it take to reach a level where you can PVP/Guild shit nowadays?

Still literal weeks of grinding 10 hours a day?
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>>160407636
Tell her thanks, I didn't feel like going to alemeth
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>>160407823
MMORPGs aren't for you.
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>>160407823
Things were made easier now, it's take a few days to get a 317 character with enough discipline.
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>>160407941
Not if you start from scratch.
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>>160408006
Just buy exp tomes :^)
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>>160407823
Two weeks of 10 hours a day is just 140 hours, which really isn't a long time. If you had started in the middle of April, getting there now would be just 40 minutes a day. You can't play a game for 40 minutes a day even though casuals with full time jobs and real lives spend more than 40 minutes just commuting to work every day. When the Tree of Savior Mobile Remake is out, you'll even be able to play while commuting and reach the level cap without taking any time out of the day!
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>>160408147
But I don't want to fund Kim's new car.
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>>160408314
>implying IMC can keep affording sports cars when wolfknights is falling apart at the seams
You'd just fund another set of genderlocked character armor, that's all. That game is never coming out.
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>>160408924
>wolfknights is falling apart at the seams

how do you know that
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>>160409119
Just trust me. It's a mess, and they know it.

t. insider
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>>160409370
Julie please
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>>160409119
>In development as long as ToS
>Still not ready to play
>Using the same engine as ToS
>With higher graphics, particle effects etc
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>>160409435
>tfw Julie was brutally removed from IMC because she actually cared about us and exposed some inside information about incompetence of the company
>tfw retards bullied her and said she's not suitable for work

Julie was a saint and died for our sins.
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>>160409435
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>>160409595
>>Using the same engine as ToS
>>With higher graphics, particle effects etc
IMC can't be this retarded.
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It's still possible to get into a pve instance (Halloween and Saalus here) with someone you're at war with. Pet battles ensued. The check for joining a party with someone who recently left a guild is different from the check for a current member so you can open both party invitation windows before either accepts.
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>>160410058
They can be. This is the company that admitted they did all their performance testing for ToS with only one player on screen.
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>by the time I finish my daily chores on other games and log on ToS the GVG is over
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>>160410058
>IMC can't be this retarded.
I didn't mention that this engine Wolfknights and ToS uses is also the same engine Granado Espada uses.

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=331&vp=3&c=31

>We are using the internally developed engine which has been in use and updated since the start of "Granado Espada". This engine was customized to meet the needs to express the impressions of 2D characters, hand drawn art and etc. Except for the graphics side of the engine, we are using the same engine which is being used to develop "Wolfknights", the other game that we are currently developing.

Although it does at least say the graphics side is different, so maybe they have a little sense. But then it's the implementation more than the graphics themselves that messes up ToS...
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Julie posting time?

>>160410073
They were killable INSIDE the instance? I've been in missions and dungeons with people I was at war with before and they weren't killable on the inside. That's not how it should work.
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>>160410238
>having daily chores in another game
>playing ToS after that
Seriously anon stop wasting your life
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>>160405981

Please delete this. It was a mistake. And I've never had so many death threats since I posted it.
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>>160410370
Yes, they were killable, which made bosses a bit more complicated. Friendly fire is fun with temple shooter around.
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Hi Maribel! I voted for you so please win.

If you do win I hope you have a nice roll!
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>>160410484
I'll save it just for you
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>>160410553
that was fun in ktos
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>>160410575

Pull your pants back up anon. I'm not Murbish, I'm just the one who made the mistake of posting that image yesterday.
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What's wrong with Wugu3Fwee3 again? It sounds fine to me.
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>>160410818
retard
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>>160410818
Wugushi is R4, Wugu3 would be R6.
Falconer is R6.
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>>160410818
There are more chance posion ticks doesn't trigger the circling attribute, also most of endgame monsters are posion and ET on higher floors has lots of poison too
You would get a better Fwee with Sapper really, especially when we will get the Broom trap buffs
And you can't make Wugu3Fwee3 withour rank 9 out yet
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>>160410818
wugu fwee when you realize your damage is shit.
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>>160410818
First because it would be impossible, as >>160410937 and >>160410972 said. Then there's the fact Poisons aren't affected by any of the Fwee skills, meanung they have 0 synergy.

Go Sapper, they're fun and lewd.
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Next week we will get gatchapon with Practorium and lv10 Abbrasives
And i will finally quit
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>>160411179

If we don't get Agni Necklace next week I'm quitting!
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>>160411338
see you in 7+1 days
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>>160411409

I mean it this time!
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>>160411338
Like Agni will save your pyromancer or this game
It won't.
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>>160411468
Sure sure, just like the last time
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I can't wait for all those people to finally get their hands on their Agni necklaces and finally realize that a 400% modifier won't fix Pyromancer.

It's a final modifier, not an attack modifier. You'll do 500 damage instead of 100 on Rank8 monsters with it. There's a reason why all the Agni memevideos only show mission bosses and stuff from pre-Rank8 content.
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>>160411618

Anything is better than nothing.

Besides, I already do over 2000 damage per hit of a fireball to rank 8 monsters.
And all the actual end game content (ET, library) has more normal mobs, not ones with 3000 mdef.

If I had the time and money, with a few more transcends and upgrades, I could be sitting on well over 4000 MATK (and 700 elemental damage).
That's more than enough to damage anything in the game.
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>>160411507
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>>160411752
>4000 MATK

Literally impossible unless you account Chapparition Cards, which only last 4 seconds and are of little relevance for a sustained damage class such as Pyromancer. The best people with transcends right no have 2000 matk sticks.

I don't want Pyromancer to be shit, I jsut find it highly unlikely Agni will makes things much better for your kind.
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I rerolled and still can't get over not doing every single quest on the map.

HELP
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>>160412164

I'm a Thaumaturge anon. I get 587 free MATK and over 100 more int at the moment.
Thaumaturge is also getting a buff sometime to give int scaling to swell arms and more base value. I'll get almost 400 more damage from this buff.
Add two red gems for 0-360 more damage (180 average).
I have two Wizard Bracelets for 64 magic attack and could upgrade them to Wizard Bangles for 80 more.
Hats that give me 170 magic attack.
My weapon currently has 472 damage (+2 windia rod only transcended once). I've got the money to upgrade it more and could also transcend it more with ease. Getting it to +5 and stage 3 transcended would give it 739 matk, and this is not unreasonable.
I've also got 1042 base magic attack

All of that is about 3300 magic attack.

I'm also an Enchanter so I get 500 lightning damage and have an arde and a hat with some bonus elemental damage, bringing the total up to about 720.

This requires very little funding either. All I need to do is upgrade my weapon 3 more times and transcend it twice more.
To reach 4000 MATK, I'd need a +10 weapon transcended to stage 5. Which is still not stupidly hard to obtain.
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>>160412596
This is now facebook, get friends.
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>>160412596
Make a few more characters and you'll crack.
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>>160412596
buy tomes and make x8
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>>160411752
Library
80 of these to kill in less than 90 seconds
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/58512
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Reminder this single RO server has double the population of any ToS server
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>>160410378
>MDEF 2553
RIP
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>>160412598
>+10 weapon

You have no idea how many S.Corona's I have ruined just to get my +12 with 0 potential forcefed with golden anvils. This seems like a terrible idea for a Practonium weapon.
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>>160413239
Library is piss easy, these Madakias are easy and fast to clean, for physical DPS
My party kills them with average 20 seconds left without any wizard in the party, not even Linker or Chrono, just an Inquisitor and a Murmillo are more than enough.
Magic DPS is dead
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How do I get to know and hold hands with, MonsterFker-chan?
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does the +% from attributes only apply to the skill itself? or the final damage with the skills?
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>>160413357
I find funny that IMC literally have no idea on how to balance things, they either overnerf or overbuff with no middle ground. Like, it's already retarded enough that they think mage classes had the highest DPS in the game, since the tree was mainly used for CC and support, but to actually go as far as making the mdef of mobs five times higher than their physical def while not giving any decent DPS skill to rank 8 mages is just totally absurd.

I'll not be surprised if that completly changes in some update though, TOS is one of the most caotic games I have ever played in terms of updates, your class can from garbage to God-tier and from God-tier to garbage in a matters of a week.
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>>160414087
>or the final damage with the skills?
It applies to your final damage, meaning that hats, weapon, magic attack and etc will count
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>>160413203

>ToS was suppose to kill RO
>Gravity were so scared of it they even filtered the words Tree of Savior and ToS on their forums
>RO private servers have more players than ToS and official RO servers still have more active players than ToS ever had

What went so wrong?
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>>160414278
S E V E N Y E A R S
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Name one thing that actually functions without any problems in TOS.

You literally can't.
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>>160414413
hook64
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>>160413972
I want to be Papi for Api kids!
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>>160414413
tree root crystals
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>>160414278
>What went wrong
IMC, f2p and rushed release.
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>>160414278
Team change. People play the content from A team that got reallocated to WOLFKNIGHTs while B team got hold of tree of shittivior.
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>>160412598
>I've got the money to upgrade it more and could also transcend it more with ease
Protip: Don't transcende weapons with red gems, use blue gems instead.
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>>160413972
Just submit
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>>160414795
>Content from A team
The only part of this game where it looks like an actual effort was made is the skills and classes, everything else looks subpar tbqh. Maybe the team needed more time to polish the game
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>>160414823

I thought transcending didn't take gems into account?
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>>160414918
It does, it takes everything that increases the base damage of your weapon into account.
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>>160414527
Tree root crystals have different models depending on the zone they're in, and some use the basic model instead of a model that fits the zone.

If you count addons, which technically aren't part of the game, tree root crystals stop restoring stamina when the graphical animation is turned off.
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>>160414967
So fr a physical weapon what would be best?
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I've been looking at reviews of this game and it's mostly negative, what happened?
I was really looking forward to play Ragnarok 2.0 too.
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>>160416015
DIE
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>>160416015
see
>>160398982
>>160414639
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>>160416015
>what happened?
Greed
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>>160416015

It's honestly just not a very good game.

Buggy as fuck and every maintenance they have breaks something.
Runs like complete shit even after many patches to improve performance.
Balancing is basically a joke.
In terms of content, the game has almost nothing and saying it feels half finished would actually be praise.

Honestly, the game was released years too early and now IMC seem to have ditched it for other things while leaving nothing but a skeleton crew to work on it.
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>>160416112
>>160416165
Fuck, that's sad, I assume the little posters in here are people who invested too much to give up on the game then.
I might try RO for old times sake
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>>160416015
They tried to copy a dead game, nostalgia fags thought that they could go back in time by playing the game - which is impossible.
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>>160416273

The game would have actually been better if they did just copy RO. I think most people went into the game expecting a more modern RO and were seriously disappointed by what we got.

Also, RO isn't dead. Even now it maintains a larger player base than ToS has ever had. There are private RO servers with more players than ToS.
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>>160416356
Tell me the name of the server pls, I wanna give it a try.
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>>160416492

Image was posted earlier on in this thread.

Or you could just play on the official servers. I'm pretty sure there is a F2P option now.
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What class actually synergizes with corsair, or benefits from it skillwise?

None of the corsair skills increases dmg for other skills through some kind of debuff. It's a rank 5-7 class with mediocre base dmg skills, super minimal support ability through jolly roger and has one okay pvp skill.

Seriously, corsair is a rank 5-7 standalone class period that has no real benefit for anything. You need to build around it, which should not be the case for a class in the middle of the class with like 10 total ranks.
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>>160415574
I never transcended a physical weapon. However, I did heard that red gems aren't considered in the transcendence. I would probably put green gems since critc rate is always a must for physical dmg classes.
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>>160398982
>Trying to act like people didn't leave due to lack of content and/or quality of the game
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>>160416546

You mean: >>160413203 ? Because there's no name ever mentioned in these threads.

>>160416568
Corsair is a dead end job currently. There's no benefit of going it, unless we get a R9 in February who benefits from dual wielding and can abuse subweapon assault and gun wielding attribute it will stay that way. Even before R8 it was already mediocre. IMC doesn't give much thought to stuff since they don't actually play the game.
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>>160416492
Just go RateMyServer and pick whatever server suits you.
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>>160416356
>Also, RO isn't dead
Besides the japanese server, everything about RO is dead and people nostalging about.
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>>160416898

More people play RO than ToS. A lot more.

If RO is dead, ToS was stillborn.
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>>160416898
If RO is dead then what the fuck is ToS?
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>>160416938
>>160416946

I never said that ToS was 'alive', why you would assume that?
ToS wasn't even designed to have such a low population, just look at the original mechanics - and they are trying to fix it with the recent changes, making the game less party interactive wise and making some clear strong classes, less class combos and etc.
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>>160416938
Might that be due to toasters being able to run RO better than TOS?
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>>160417073

>they are trying to fix it with the recent changes

So explain rank 8 to me.
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>>160417073
>they are trying to fix it with the recent changes
>R8
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>>160417073
>they are trying to fix it with recent changes
>transcendence
>r8
>upcoming appraisal
>300+ mobs stats
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>>160416015
>Lack of content
>Leveling up is tedious, time consuming and repetitive
>Game has no end game apart from shitty daily activities that you do because you must and not because you want
>Almost everything is restricted or limited. The game literally forces you to play they want you to play, with little to no freedom of approach in almost all aspects.
>One of the most buggy and badly optimized game you will find anywhere
>One of the most incompetent video game companies I have ever seen in my life
>Atrocious balacing issues
>Daily shit
>90% of the mobs in the game are reskins of mobs from the first areas
>All the maps in the game are giant, claustrophobic corridors
>Money sinks out of the ass
>Time sinks out of the ass
>Dungeons are copy pasted field maps with nothing to do besides killing a bunch of reskins
>Daily shit
>Pvp is broken, unbalaced, has no option for a pre made match and only opens for 2 hours in specific times of the day(That's right, you cannot play pvp when you want it)
>Gvg is incredibly simplistic and isn't able to maintain the FPS above the one digit mark
>Daily shit
I could go on. There's really no reason to play this game, the only factors that may attract you are the cute artstyle and the variety/depth of the class system, but that's it. A pile of garbage won't smell like sunflowers just because you added a little perfume to it.
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>>160417130
>>160417185
>>160417240

And by recent changes I mean the way skills on R8 scale compared to everything else previous to it - and gems being more stronger, as well transcendence.

Lower circles become less and less relevant unless they have debuffs/buffs

You don't need need a full theory-crafted party with people helping each other like most skills interact with other pre-R8, not each class buffs itself(KrivisTao, HopGoon, BarbDoppel, Fencer with Epee), and the clear supports just mash some skills.

As long you have enough transcend levels in your main dmg dealer and a cleric/maybe a chrono, most content can be done.

And by enough damage I mean 315 weapons, not old shit like Doppelmemers using Magi2hand.
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>instead of trying to make people play this hell with us now we send directly to AtlasRO and alike
Are we RO general now?
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>>160417418
>Lower circles become less and less relevant unless they have debuffs/buffs
That's why you should always pick utility/support classes when making a futureproof build. Classes like Chrono, Kino or Diev will never become obsolete, no matter what they add to the game.
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>>160417553
its just the retarded doomposters at it again, just put it on filter.

>>160417412
>>160417240
>>160417185
>>160417130
>HONEST TO GOD BELIEVING THAT IF THOSE WERE "FIXED" (protip, theres nothing wrong in that) THE GAME WOULD BE IN A BETTER STATE

My fucking sides, the only thing dragging the game down currently is the community. Everyone keeps trying to exploit shit like the event and IMC can't keep up track, and when shit happen (people leaving because of >+40 equips exploited, gem farmed to rank 8, hat exploit, etc) people point at IMC like they were the ones at fault. Just admit you faggots haven't played the game in the last months and the only reason you post in these threads is to shitpost, it's fucking obvious. There is content every day, R8 is fucking fine, everything was scaled up, see Murmillo or Doppel, PvP is one of the best in the market.

Just fucking leave if you don't play the game. Are you so fucking desperate for (You)'s you stay ALL FUCKING DAY posting on a game you don't even fucking play spewing shit from you computer?
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>>160417691
>My fucking sides, the only thing dragging the game down currently is the community.
Apologist detected. Community is a problem in literally any online game, exploits are a problem in literally any online game, difference being that some of those have a company that actually fix its exploits/bugs and punishes players that use them. Difference is also that most of those games have more/better content to compensate for this so called shit community.

If you really think that there's nothing wrong with TOS itself and that's all the community's fault I feel sorry for you.
>people leaving because of >+40 equips exploited, gem farmed to rank 8, hat exploit
Read above, exploits are a problem in any game, players will always abuse mechanics for their own gain if the company doesn't stop that. Also, I find these problems that you mentioned the least important things from all the things I mentioned in my other post.
>There is content every day,
Right, the same boring content you did the day before and before and has to do for the rest of your life because that's the only way to upgrade your character.
>R8 is fucking fine
Oh right, everything is super balanced and has no problem, got it.
>PvP is one of the best in the market.
Oh my

>Just fucking leave if you don't play the game.
Stop being a white knight faggot, the game has very serious issues and acting like they don't exist is the epitome of delusion.
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>>160418027
>Oh right, everything is super balanced and has no problem, got it.
>Oh my
What are you going to do next? Snap your fingers and roll your eyes? That's not how arguments work faggot.

>Right, the same boring content you did the day before and before and has to do for the rest of your life because that's the only way to upgrade your character.
Is this your first MMORPG or are you actually trolling?

>Stop being a white knight faggot, the game has very serious issues and acting like they don't exist is the epitome of delusion.

The only "argument" you posted can literally be attributed to ANY FUCKING MMORPG IN EXISTENCE. I'd rather be a fucking 'white knight' for not sitting down while you shitpost without any idea what the fuck you're talking about than be a retard shitposting about a game I haven't played in months.
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>>160417691
>PvP is one of the best in the market

(You) are the one that doesn't PLAY THE GAME
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>>160418139
>That's not how arguments work faggot.
I don't need to make a counter argument when there's no argument to counter. You just made a statement without explaining your reasoning, so I just replied without explaining mine.

>Is this your first MMORPG or are you actually trolling?
Name one MMO with a content that's more based on daily shit than TOS.

>The only "argument" you posted can literally be attributed to ANY FUCKING MMORPG IN EXISTENCE.
Like?I made several points in my post, are you implying that any MMO in existence has all the problems I mentioned?

>for not sitting down while you shitpost without any idea what the fuck
So you're implying that doing the same boring thing every single day, playing a unbalanced and laggy pvp and going to a gvg where your FPS can't reach the 2 digits mark is fine?That's not to mention all the million problems
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>>160417691
>There is content every day, R8 is fucking fine, everything was scaled up, see Murmillo or Doppel, PvP is one of the best in the market
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>You can only used appraisal service for eqs thats drop in free dungeon
No Ten Hammer then?
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Jesus chrism,
how hard can it be for IMC to add a class reset scroll/potion.
Even DN has one of those, I can change from a crappy inquisitor into a fucking guardian for fucks sakes,
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>>160418646
>how hard can it be for IMC to add a class reset scroll/potion.
They can barely make simple events without a bug or two appearing, imagine handling something as class reset.
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>>160418697
It worked for skill and stat reset.
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>>160418807
Sadly, I don't think that class reset is that simple
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>>160418646
Stop. Class reset potions shouldn't exist.
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>>160418864
In ToS, they should.
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>>160417553
Fuck off ROfags. Nothing is more pathetic than coming to the thread for a game as dead as this one to beg for players. Live games try to drive new people away, and only dead ones beg for more.

>>160418646
Fuck off and kill yourself. Go play a mobile game if you want that crap.
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>>160418864
It should but at $200 a pop
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>>160418864
I was just like you in my first two months playing, the little I knew.
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>>160418940
t. Kim
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>>160418864
>>160418932
>hurr durr people shouldn't be allowed to reset, they should all waste a vast amount of hours/days doing the same boring quests they already did to make another character, just like I did!
Not having class reset in TOS is literally insane. Games that are much less time consuming and have less balancing issues have them.
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Oh man, they really """"fixed"""" Missile Hole and now it actually has nearly 100% uptime for real.

This game is dead.
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>>160419250
What's the problem with missile hole?It's basically the only thing stopping sage from being total garbage
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>>160419145
If you think it's literally insane to keep players playing instead of making them all stop playing, you might as well apply for a job at imc.
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>>160419319
Immunity mechanics are cancer. It should be common knowledge for any kind of game developer.
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>>160419390
Stay away from my Ausrine
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>>160419345
You're basically saying that the only content the game has is spending a incredibly amount of time doing tedious and repetitive quests that you already did just to test another build you want. There's very solid arguments to give in favor of a class reset, while the only arguments in favor are either giving the lack of content of the game as a excuse, or wanting players to do brain dead quests for longer.
>>160419390
Agree, but I can't be bothered with missile hole when Ausrine and revenged exist.
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>>160419250
You're saying you can recast it while the old buff is still up and it'll refresh the hit count too?
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So how hard is it to go one day in this general with out falseflagging or pasta spamming?
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>>160419569
Yeah. Once the hit count expires, the buff disappears and you can recast it.

This is pure cancer for archers.
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>>160419583
As hard as non doompost
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>>160419647
Debuffs still bypass missile hole, meaning that's useless against fletchers, stone shot and etc. The skill is really not very good outside of pve
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>>160419558
That is the game's main content, and no matter how much of an endgame fag you want to be, there's still no worthwhile endgame and almost all the content is in the midgame. What exactly do you expect players to do when they have no reason to level new characters and even if they want to, nobody else will do anything below the level cap?

Don't tell me you need resets to be competitive in pvp when the rankings don't even work.
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>>160419763
>The skill is really not very good outside of pve
TRIGGERED
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>>160417691
Work harder on your game if you want more people to play.
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>>160419583
I'm sad to say the pasta spam is my favorite part of the general these days.
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>>160419775
Still not a good reason why it shouldn't be in the game.
Resets are there to help those who fucked up their build and can't be assed to start over due to them valuing their time more.
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>>160419939
They need to learn that their time is worthless and the presence of people actively doing group stuff at all levels is more important than whatever else they could be doing. They should make attributes teamwide, though.
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Resets are literally required if this game is to live. Once R9 hits and people build's go to the shitter and everyone is forced to reroll or be shit, most will simply chose to go to the latest cashgrab that isn't tos rather than go grind to R8 again.
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>>160419763
>missile hole bad in PVP
>it's literally reshaped the meta for GBL singlehandedly
anon what the fuck are you talking about
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>>160420193
They said the same thing about rank 8. If that were a problem, it would've happened already. Besides, everyone will quit for other reasons before they ever get around to working on rank 9.
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>>160420297
And the population dipped fron R8 rather than doing the expected and increase the playerbase. Denial doesn't feed a family.
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The game went to shit exactly because people endorsed the extreme casualization of every feature that wasn't babby's hand-holding -tier. Class Resets is the last casual barrier they haven't broken yet, let's leave it that way.
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>>160420193
Yeah, just add class resets so the early game dies instead so the game has 0 chance of getting new players and the retards at the """""""""top""""""""" can keep jerking eachother off instead.
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>>160420250
People have to be close enough to fornicate with the wizard to get the buff, and aoe always did the most damage in GBL. Of course, the other guy is still a faggot and missile hole is great in pvp, both GBL and TBL.
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>>160420437
Enlighten how adding a class reset would scare-off potential new players rather than the notion of doing the long grind again just because someone fucked up a rank.
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>>160420384
Neither do bugs that crash Fedimian, dungeons, and missions every 5 minutes. A real solution would be to restrain mudflation, improve weak classes, and rein in outliers so they're not forced to reroll or be shit, but imc can't handle that, either.
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>>160420565
Because there would be literally no one in the low level dungeons.
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>>160419775
>That is the game's main content
I know that. Problem is that leveling up in this game is very time consuming and tedious, which can be okay when you make one or two characters, but becomes unbearable after some time and you will most likely give up on making new builds as time goes on even if you really want to make them, simply because you can't be bothered to lose so much time doing the same quests again(not to mention all the money sink that comes with each new char, but that's another story). So even if making new builds is the only content the game has, vast majority of players won't have the patience to make them and will end up quitting due to lack of content anyway. At least class reset would give them the power to test the builds he want it, being in pvp or pve.

>What exactly do you expect players to do when they have no reason to level new characters and even if they want to, nobody else will do anything below the level cap?
Use their new builds in gvg/pvp. Besides, not everyone will use class reset everytime they want a new character, most people would probably just use it in one or two of its characters.

>Don't tell me you need resets to be competitive in pvp when the rankings don't even work.
No, but I need class reset to protect myself from IMC's inability to balance the game.They can make classes that were OP in pvp become literally garbage with updates in a blink of a eye, which they did a bunch of times, making the character that you invested so much time in subpar for the content you want it to play.
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>>160420565
>New player joins
>Nobody to do low level content with because all the old players just reset their characters when they have to

The fact people have to reroll is the only thing that keeps new players interested. When you queue for low level content you see their names and faces, unknown to you. But there's also old players rerolling new characters. It'd be pretty fucking empty otherwise.
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>>160420647
>>160420687
That's already the case because people would rather fucking leave rather than level again. It's fine if everyone leaves but unthinkable to not force old players to reroll to make the 30 min queues at lv50 dungeon happen.
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>>160420881
retard
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>>160420250
>>160420491
I play as a sage and believe me, missile hole isn't that great in pvp. It's the only good sage skill but it still pales in comparison to pearls or malleus from inquisitor. It would be really OP if it wasn't for the fact that you still suffer all the debuffs from archer skills, As it is now, it's just a good skill.
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>>160420647
Already the case, what's new?

>>160420687
>Implying old players would spend $100(or more) for a class reset.
Anon please, to those that don't have money but a lot of time, they'd just grind.
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>>160420398

The current state of the game means class resets shouldn't be an issue.

The levelling process is the same for every character. It doesn't change, it's not fun and no one wants to keep doing it everytime something in the game changes.

If the game had more content and it was fun to grind, people wouldn't mind making alts. But this is not the case.

The game needs class resets because of how badly made it is.

They should be limited though. Something like once everytime they add a new rank.
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>>160420687
>>160420647
I don't think people would buy a class reset for every new character they want to make, it would be mainly for their main.
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>>160421021
Class resets wouldn't be 100$ but even if they were, don't underestimate people's laziness. Also, you'd be surprised by how many people reroll and make alts.

Seriously, everyone who would be fazed by IMC's bullshit has already left a long time ago. Everyone that's still left loves taking it in the ass from IMC. You and I included.
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>>160420398
>casualization
I love how people try to be elitists over nothing.
The process of leveling up in TOS is hard?No.
It's fun?No.
It's dynamic?No
It's open ended?No
It's just time consuming, nothing more, nothing less. Only reason people do it is to test new builds, otherwise they would never ever touch in the quests of this game.

Literally why you want to force players to go through this shit?Only reason is the lack of content of the game, so doing boring quests over and over again gives the illusion that there's something to do.
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>>160420653
Testing is no reason to have resets. If you want to ask for a try out mode that just sends you into a small mission with any build, ask for that instead. Somebody with a wide variety of high level characters is already insulated against big changes, and if leveling is so time consuming, the vast majority will not have played through the game that many times to begin with.

>gvg/pvp
Try again when these are actually working. Most of the pvp audience quit when they put in neutrality and released a completely broken trainwreck for GBL.

>most people would probably just use it in one or two of its characters.
>They can make classes that were OP in pvp become literally garbage with updates in a blink of a eye, which they did a bunch of times
These conflict. You're going to hop onto the flavor of the week build every time imc poops in their pants, and everyone else will, too.
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>>160421312
>if leveling is so time consuming, the vast majority will not have played through the game that many times to begin with
And the steamcharts prove that.
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>>160421292
It's BECAUSE it is time consuming we don't want resets, all we have is time over normal people, the reason we hate P2W is because casual normies can pay to bypass the grindwall and be on an even ground with us who played for months and have more than 3k playtime.
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bad game
0.21 fps
yadda yadda
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>>160421398
>still 50 most played
Congrats, you played yourself.
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>>160421524
>casual normies can pay to bypass the grindwall
> bypass the grindwall
Call me when they start selling EXP scrolls or instant 100lvls scrolls.
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>>160421601
>Less than 10% of what it was
Congratulations too.
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>>160421616
They already sell EXP tomes though
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>>160421734
Which just accelerates the grind not bypass it.
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So why is the Rhevisan bracelet so expensive?
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>>160421734
Helo where if proof
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>>160421793
go farm 160 and tell me why
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>Testing is no reason to have resets.
Testing how a build works is the only fun thing about this game. What isn't fun is going through the same 2000 quests you already did before to achieve that.

>and if leveling is so time consuming, the vast majority will not have played through the game that many times to begin with.
Well, the vast majority didn't. The people playing now are just a small fraction of the original playerbase

>Try again when these are actually working
I don't know how pvp/gvg being broken is a argument against reset since the entire game is broken anyway.

>These conflict. You're going to hop onto the flavor of the week build every time imc poops in their pants, and everyone else will, too.
You're overestimating the willingness to buy TP of the ToS player base. Only whales would buy class reset everytime a small update happens, most people would buy only on rank updates and very big patches that really nerf your classes.

Justifying class reset with the lack of the content of the game is cheap anyway. We should demand more content for end game and not go against class resets just because the only thing to do in the game is repeating farmville-tier quests ad infinitum.
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>>160421793
You have to run the 160 dungeon seven million times to craft it, and you could be rushing 290 instead.
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>>160421951
>>160421943
But is it worth the 4 mill I need to shell out?
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>>160422007

If you PVP you should get some, if not then they're not that great.
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The grind wall stopping every single cleric from rolling cleric 2 diev 3 oracle kabba inquisitor and other pvp meta builds is literally the only thing stopping TBL from being complete garbage and people want everyone to be able to just change class on a dime.
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>>160421524
>It's BECAUSE it is time consuming we don't want resets, all we have is time over normal people
I would agree with you if this was a argument in favor of skill, intelligence or creativity, but it's just a argument in favor of people who not only have more time, as have more autism to do thousands of boring quests with tons of characters without getting tired of it. I will never be in favor of something that favors nothing but brainless grind.

>the reason we hate P2W is because casual normies can pay to bypass
Class reset is no more P2W than Token though.

>bypass the grindwall
He still has to grind a char to 330, which is time consuming anyway. What we are trying to do is saving him from doing for the 1202102310 time.

>be on an even ground with us who played for months and have more than 3k playtime.
That will never happen though. Please, tell me how a new player can have as many blessed shards as a player who played since the beginning?Also, tell me how a new player can have as much money as someone who played since the beggining considering that's almost impossible to earn money without doing daily shit.
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>>160422138
I made a cleric a week ago, he's oracle now grinding in alememe. With leech, halloween still going, and seeds giving abrasives and xp tomes making a new char has never been easier - it's not like cleric 2 diev 3 is weak in pve, owls are quite nice, I had a harder time with priest because of flying mobs (and you can just buy pardoner buffs anyway)
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>>160422365
>HE

Gross!!!!!
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>>160422365
Good for you, but lots of people aren't willing to do that and would rather hold onto their old characters and hope/wait for a meta shift in their favor or just learn to play what they have and that's a good thing We have a game with a lot of classes and people just want to make them fully interchangeable with each other.
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>>160422138
>They made blessed shards tradable, breaking one of the only walls that stopped people from having weapons with a 7k base damage.
>And he thinks that class reset is the thing that would make pvp broken
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>>160422450
Even with the ability to roll a meta build, many people wouldn't want to roll the same thing as everyone else, that's what people forget. If your logic was correct, no one would build a archer for pvp and everyone would just roll Kinos and Clerics.
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>finally getting frustrated enough to consider quitting this game for real so I can focus on the other one
>the other game nerfs my element into the ground as soon as I do
FUCK WHY DOES THE UNIVERSE FORCE ME TO KEEP PLAYING THIS KUSOGE
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>>160422138
What stats does that build focus on? Like 100 con and rest into int for pvp?
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>>160422791
>Int
All cleric builds for pvp are full con
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I sold a 2 costume and one hipster glasses, why do i have to wait 24 hours for this shit? i thought it was instant?
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>>160422791
>>160422846
Except Priest/pardonner, in that case you go SPR.*
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>>160422920
Nice try, RMT-kun. Kim knows how to stop you.
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>>160421946
>I don't know how pvp/gvg being broken is a argument against reset since the entire game is broken anyway.
Since pvp is broken, there's no serious competitive scene to keep up with, and therefore it's not necessary to let players reroll so much for pvp.

If testing is fun, why not take a try out room instead of class resets? As for the masses who already quit, resets won't bring any of them back. The only thing they could hope to do with resets is retain existing players.

We don't know how much a reset would cost, but if it's the same as a skill reset, then every guild that can get 500 TP a week will prioritize resets. Everyone in Crimson would reset every time a small update happens. If the resets can be sold on the market for silver, the whales can supply the whole server with them.

Demanding more content and a better endgame is fine, but resets can wait until after we get those.
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>>160422920
>24
It's 48 hours
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>>160423002
They lowered it to 24 this patch.
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>>160422756
Get fucked, fatty enabler.
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>>160423002
PLAY THE GAME
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>>160423093
>he doesnt like thicc
I bet you play a swordsman you massive cucklord.
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>>160422756
I used my Mongolian magic to stop you from leaving because I need you here.
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>>160423165
No, thank you.
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>>160422925
I feel spr just isn't worth it right now in tbl, maybe in open world pvp where stoneskin isn't nerfed - but even with 35k hp my old oracle still explodes to syralai's SR, and that's around 200+ points into con and 120 or something into spr. You need to stack as much hp and crit resist as you can manage, because r8 damage is just through the roof
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>>160423212
STOP

JUST LET ME GO ALREADY
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>>160422990
>Since pvp is broken, there's no serious competitive scene to keep up with, and therefore it's not necessary to let players reroll so much for pvp.
It's not a matter of being competitive, it's a matter of you being able to have fun. People will literally wipe the floor with you in this game without a build suited for pvp.

>If testing is fun, why not take a try out room instead of class resets?
That's not ideal, but would actually solve many problems. Still, it wound't save you from retarded patches and updates.

>The only thing they could hope to do with resets is retain existing players.
Well, I know I would come back if they add class reset, at least for some time.

>We don't know how much a reset would cost, but if it's the same as a skill reset,
In my opinion resets should have limitations, like only being usable once per character or once for every three ranks(meaning that if you are rank 9 you are able to reset 3 times). Problem is that IMC probably wouldn't do that because it would decrease their ability to monetize on it.
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>>160423348
You knew what you signed up for when. We joined this game on different day, but we shall quit on the same one.

>Is now playing Civilization VI

Taking a break is fine, I guess.
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how are you people still playing this mess
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>>160423621
Stockholm syndrome
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Is there a more fun build than Cryo Kino?
I don't think so!
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>>160423621
I log on all my dead games to do my dailies just in case somehow they are brought back from the dead.
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>>160423621
Sorcery, apparently.

On the real, though, the game has charm. I can't quite put my finger on what it is, but it's charming. I think RO had this too, but was a good game on top of the charm. ToS just has the charm.

The game has a lot of room for theorycrafting/minmaxing which I enjoy, but obviously isn't for everybody. It allows for progression while AFK or mostly AFK akin to how EVE used to, which is great for people (like me) with busy schedules or normie lives.

The PVP isn't balanced but it is fun at times, namely during the periods after big changes (new gearsets, new circles/classes, etc) shake up the meta and nobody really has established and rerolled into what's strongest.
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>>160423950
Yeah, ones that're useful.
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>>160424075
Tell me your dead game list.
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>>160423621

Only reason I'm still playing is because of a few people. It's basically a chat room at this point where I can do silly and cute things with people.
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>>160424240
>Kino Cryo
>Not useful
It's one of the best builds for pvp
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>>160424338
Shadowverse, Hearthstone, Black Desert Online (I have it running in the background 24/7 fishing), Dragon Nest, Tree of Savior.
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>>160424428
>PvP
>useful
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>>160424452
Is black desert worth it?I'm just starting it
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>>160424938
>PvE
>Useful
Checkmate atheists
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>/v/ is playing this http://panel.atlas-ro.com/

maybe we should too :D !
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>>160424338
Maplestory.
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Whats better for a dex doppel, red veris or vubbe?
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>>160425183
I can't find the server rate anywhere.
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>>160425183
The thread 404'd a while ago on /v/, there's a ton of people playing this.

There's a /v/ guild in there and people are doing power levelling parties and stuff. There's also rampant item duping going on and everyone else in the server is already loaded.

Judge for yourself if it's worth your time.
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>>160425183
>average nostalgiabait 50/50/25 and pay2win private server
nah
official or go fuck off
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>>160425183
Playing RO yet AGAIN would be worse than playing this kusoge.
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>>160416273
Truest thing. I don't want to play old RO anymore and I sure as fuck don't want to play new RO.

I wish RO faggots would just fuck off from this game and go play their new furry characters.

Meanwhile
http://pastebin.com/qCHDJgyS

>New ‘Unidentified’ items and an Appraisal NPC has been added.
More copy of RO? I forgot that was even a thing in RO.

>You can acquire Unidentified items through the newly added Free Dungeons. (17/11/2016 Maint)
>Unidentified items cannot be equipped, enhanced, socket added, transcended or awakened.
>You can appraise these items from the Appraisal NPC 'Sandra' located in Fedimian.
>When appraising an item, the socket & potential can increase by 2x the default amount.
>These items cannot be appraised more than once.

So this is why >>160406371 and >>160406641
It probably only applies to these items too, so once again people that flip their shit every time a new system is added are wrong about every aspect of it.
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>>160425603
Appraising is only for the unidentified items? Odd, why would they add a mechanic like this at this point? Nonetheless, it's good news. Being able to double sockets on any equipment would be retarded.

What's with these dungeons being "free"? Does that mean you can run the an unlimited number of times?
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>>160425903
prolly RNG key drops or something
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>>160425903
I think they're "open" dungeons, but I don't play KR, so I don't know.
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>>160425903
I think it's non-instanced, open world dungeons like legwyn.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS MY GOD DAMN PRACTONIUM
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>>160426064
Oh I see.

Basically they want us to hunt equipment in those places and, upon appraising, we get a randomized number of slots. I wonder what kind of equipment comes from there.

Do you think they scrapped the idea of having an Appraiser class entirely?
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https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items?order=cdated&f=1

>All this new gear with good stats

What the fuck? Did IMC just hire someone new to make these items because some of this shit is really fucking good.
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>>160425903
At least it may mean that only https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/313301 will be able to get like 4 sockets and 2x potential, making it not quite as useless

Also they may still be able to be awakened after being appraised, unlike before where it was thought that appraised items couldn't be awakened at all.
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https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/503306

>221 Crit Resistance

Fencers on suicide watch.
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https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/513305

Pretty good boots.
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>>160427002
>pvp
>crit
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https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/533301
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/523301
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/513301
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/503301

>Level 120 set of armor
>181 magic attack
>52 int
>20 holy damage
>54 magic amp

This is crazy. Just think what the 270 set will be like.
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>>160427317
The idea here seems to add mid-game equipment, between what we had and Proctonium items. Almost everything in this list is good, one way or the other. Still 100% uncreative but it's a step forward for once.

This doesn't say how many slots they have. If some of this gear has 2 slots, they could potentially end up with 4. Could potentially be as good as Proctonium weapons.
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>>160427317
>Just think what the 270 set will be like.

Anon 270 armor us just reskinned virtov with slightly higher armor values
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>>160427513

IMC said they would be adding more rank 8 gear at some point because right now there basically isn't any except practonium weapons and solmiki gear.

Just imagine what it'll be like if it's this good.

Also when IMC say "free" dungeon, do they mean an instanced dungeon or just a dungeon anyone can enter.
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>>160427598

Nah. The new gear all comes from unidentified items. They'll probably add more unidentified items for higher levels. And it's going to be insane.
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A bunch of this equipment, specially Swordsman-only items, seem to have massive -magic attack effects on them. Inquisitor damage is based on enemy INT and MATK, right? If so, it makes Swordies less vulnerable to them.

Though to be honest, they seem to be preparing to introduce a Swordsman class that uses magic. That means, they would not want to use this particular piece of equipment. IMC would not have added those effects otherwise since nothing in the Swordie tree scales with MATK. Yet.

Spellswords when?

>>160427642
Maybe it's just a map with no quests, like Legwyn.
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>>160424967
It's okay. I like the combat, but the gearing is fucking AIDS. Almost requires as much silver as fucking ToS, and you can't even do dungeons for it, you have to grind in the wild.
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>>160427791

Yeah, that is what I was thinking. "Free" isn't a very descriptive word.

Hopefully we get gear like this for all level ranges, it might actually make rank 8 onwards bearable.
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>>160425603
Tree of Savior won the 2016 Korea Game Awards in Online & Technology category and also Character Creativity Award, Thanks so much for your support and encouragement guys.

W H A T ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

T H E

F U C K ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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>Leather solmiki gives you INT
>Cloth Solmiki gives you CON
Why this is allowed?
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>>160427896

Koreans don't particularly make very good games anon.

If ToS actually won awards, how bad do you think the other games (we'll never get) actually are?
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>>160427896
What do you expect from a country that's lead by a female cult.
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https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/123302
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/253301
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/103302

Items with -MATK and -INT that are Swordie only.

Maybe we magic now?

>>160427896
There has to be sauce for this somewhere, I refuse to think we wouldn't have known about it yet.
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>>160426553
>those plate pieces with STR CON resist and magic def

Jesus fuck, I'm so ready.
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>>160427896

Korea pumps out trashy MMOs on an almost daily basis. Hundreds of them every year. Most of them are so shit they die relatively quickly, which is why Korea had to pass a law that would entitle people to full refunds if the game died within a year of it's launch.

We never see the vast majority of these games because they are that shit.
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My pardoner buffs keep disappearing

Does it happen to anyone else?
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>>160426232
>I wonder what kind of equipment comes from there
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items?order=cdated&f=1
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>>160428050

>-3000 magic attack
>Swordsman only

Umm... For what purpose?

I could understand putting negative magic attack values to dissuade spellcasters from using the plate armor... But making it Swordsman only seems a bit weird.
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>>160427642
They seem like normal open world dungeons.
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/zones/4780
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/zones/4800
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/zones/4820
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/zones/4840

http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=548 has a little asterisk explaining it, but I can't read dongspeak.
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>>160428085

Was a bug introduced in the most recent maintenance. Maybe they'll fix it sometime this year.
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>>160428185
IMC is retarded. Some gear status simply don't make any sense honestly
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>>160428185
Like I said, they're preparing to add a Magic based Swordie class. And it helps against Inquisitors too, I would assume?
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>>160428260

That's not too bad then. Might also work as decent places to grind at lower levels.

Fuck having to do even more daily chores.
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I rolled a Chaplain solely because it's the closest thing we have to spellsword and now IMC is cockteasing me with m attack swordie items. This shouldn't be allowed.
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>>160428359

I hope they do add a magic swordsman (hidden) class. I might actually roll swordsman if it ever happens.
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>>160427791
I would say they're to take away matk from inquisitors and paladins themselves, but two of them are 2h swords. I have no idea. I can't think of anything in sword even in the future (matador, luchador, centurion) that would even have magic spells. Maybe there will be a 2h using cleric or war-wizard instead.
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>>160428392
>You can only get X items per day

I wouldn't doubt this actually being the case.
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>>160428489
Fuck that, Archers still don't have a hidden playable class
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>>160427896
>Korea Game Awards
>2016
did any other game even get released this year
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>>160428646
It's a hidden class, it's going to be shit, stop being jealous your class has no trap ranks.
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>>160428581
You people need to get through your skulls that Lutador, Matador, and Macumbeiro are NEVER EVER EVER going to happen. The only Swordie class we know exists and isn't implemented is Centurion, all the others will definitely never be put into the game for real. Might be costumes, but not classes.
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>>160428793
But Sapper is the trap rank
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>New art assets
>Equipment with decent stats

What's going on? Did IMC finally hire more people to work on the game??
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>>160428074
>>160428050
>>160426553
Remember, these are all items from the new dungeons that need to be appraised as well as hunted down.

They will probably mostly end up with like 0-1 slots
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>>160428803
>centurion
>ever

Macumbeiro have more chances.
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>>160426232
If anything, they probably just added the Appraiser master.
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>>160427002
>https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/503306

this is fucking ridiculous
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>>160429002
I know, right? One of the spears even looks like a Pole Axe. Might be a reason for people to use that new Alchemist attribute that makes items look like other items.

>>160429179
In that case, still leaves the doubt: What do appraisers do?

>>160429084
Macumbeiro will never come out because it's offensive. Centurion is already half working and, even if it never comes out, they'd just have to give Templar the skills instead. It fits.
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>>160429274
It's the only item with disproportional stats that I found. It's like equipping two Aias on your hands AND it comes with AoE Atk Ratio 1.
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Archer Hidden Class

Mechanic
(requires Sapper 3)

>Skill 1, buff, next laid trap deals 300% damage
>Skill 2, combine three traps in front of you to make Sentry that attacks any monsters in its vicinity
>Skill 3 Combine 3 traps infront of you to make Ward that reveals invisible items and units

>Skill 4 combine 5 traps in front of you to make mechanic bear tank that you can ride, mount lasts 1 minute and launches missiles every 3 seconds to any monsters in its area
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>>160428803
Why would there be costumes but not classes? Honestly, IMC's had all the classes since the start, even hakapell is in old previews, but is being secretive about info on them for some reason. Still don't even know what pied piper does and it's been in previews for both ToS and ToS mobile.

What I'm saying is Luchador and Shepard will definitely come.
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So it's confirmed, no >4 slots gear anymore, right? Can I buy lolopanther now?
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>>160428050
Both INT hoplite on suicide watch
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>>160429573
Yes
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>>160429285
>it's offensive

Nope, every brmonkey is waiting for the class, we love when companies use something from our country and IMC usually do a nice research in what the name of the class actually means.

t. Brasileiro Macaco
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>>160429573
There's no evidence anything but the new items will get 4 slots.
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This game is shit.
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>>160429924
yes, and?
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>>160429678
They certainly can't call it Macumbeiro though, I know for sure that the word is misused to label their religion or something.

>>160429595
I refuse to believe someone fell for that meme.

>>160429548
Please no more classes with pre-requisites. It kills the idea of flexibility. Sappers don't need more % modifiers, they need more attack scaling. A Mechanic class would be nice, though.
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>>160430076
>Please no more classes with pre-requisites
Classes that would have their C3 at R9 would have at R10. Musketeer > Shapshooter ; Cannoneer >Artillery
>Implying game would survive til R10
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>>160430076

>They certainly can't call it Macumbeiro though

They probably will and wont give a fuck.
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>>160430076
The right term is not macumbeiro, but everyone uses macumbeiro either for good or bad.
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>>160430076
KR isn't BR. They can call it "Brazilian Monkey Wizard" there if they want to. It may not be called Macumbeiro in BR version, but in JP, KR, and English INT versions it will be.
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>>160430646
There's a brazilian monkey version?
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>>160430338
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>160430732
No
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>>160430646
>Brazilian Monkey Wizard

I want to use stoneshot on a Macumbeiro!
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In a PvE setting are there enemies that can block besides the shield carrying hogmas?
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>>160430338
They really need to advertise. I mean they've done shit-all since the game was actually released to get the word out. They were still relying on pre-beta hype even when it was first released.

>>160430732
I mean in the BR translation, but what happened to the BR version that was going to be hosted by some company, level up or something? Oh right BRs ruined for themselves. I forgot.
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/end-of-partnership-between-level-up-games-and-imc-pt-br/310323
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>>160430972
I don't think I've ever seen any other enemy block so I don't think so. Enemies using stone skin or other spells would mix up the game though.
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>>160430972
A very few can but usually you hardly notice them unless you're a meleeing mage.
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Someone on Korean server tell me what the 1 hour token is from/for
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>>160431117
>>160431137
So i can go dex heavy on an archer build and suffer no repercussions?
I was thinking of putting 50STR 40CON restDEX.

I'm making a scout3 that i would take up to either MUS or MERor even CAN
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>>160430998
Level up is worst than IMC.
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>>160430338
that made me feel sad please stop that
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>>160430338
Huh, I actually felt sorry for IMC, that's something new
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>>160430338
I feel sorry for the PR guy.
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>>160431316
Why scout3 into musket? You do know the only redeeming feature of scout3 is the spammable oblique shot? Unless you like constantly swapping from musket to xbow
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Monster overhaul when?

I want to be

>Burned
>Poisoned
>Shocked
>Armor Breaked

instead of just knock backs
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>>160431869
To be honest, i don't really know but it sounds fun.
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>>160430998

Even level up dropped the game, lmao
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>>160431937
>Burned
>Poisoned
>Shocked

All are already ingame just not as numerous.
There are also ones that inflict bleed
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>>160431937
Yeah, me too. I really like how the status effects monsters put on you scale with your ele damage, so you get instantly raped by them as an archer.
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>>160431937
The entire status system is just shit. In PvE you are immune to everything relevant via dispellers. In PvP you are either status immune via an oracle/PD or probably going to lose.
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>>160432179
dispellers were a mistake, but so is being chainfrozen for minutes on end
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>>160431937

this, lol knockback is rertarded
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>>160431869
Not him, but scout 3 into musket works because you have 0 single target damage without it.

Musket skill CD are long enough that you auto swap on occasion, and the lag when auto swapping is no longer significant like it used to be months ago.

Granted, as a "farming" build you'd be better off with falcon/mergen/whatever but musket is perfectly fine for scout 3 as a way to add versatility if you plan to do more than just farming.
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>>160431937
Yeah I bet you want to be shocked and have your armor broken by monsters you fucking whore.
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>>160432047
>There are also ones that inflict bleed
I haven't had this happen since pre-200.
>>160431937


Like fucking everything poisons you though, just like in every RPG. If not that, sleep. Or Ice pike's freeze. For all the logout change, slimes basically disappeared (they cast raise and death sentence on you). PoA and MF are cancer, but there should be some more skills in use.
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>>160432495
I'm planning to take it all the way into one of the three options.
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>>160432519
How did you guess?
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>>160432636
Uhmmm, this is a Christian general for a Christian MMO, please stop this.
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>>160432636
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>>160432495
Honestly, even though Cannon 2 isn't great, I'd prefer to go Cannon than Musket with Scout3.
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>>160432615
Falcon Mergen if you like farming/burst aoe. Cheaper route because you only use one weapon.

Falcon/Whatever Musket to gain versatility via single target, but splitting focus between farming and single target will make you master of neither and you will have to upgrade two weapons.

Stay away from cannoneer.
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>>160432636
>>
>mergen or cannon 2 without falcon 1

what
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>>160432941
Falc is bugged as hell
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>>160432941
Falcon is overrated. I would never cripple myself with a shit version of Linker.
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>>160432941
Have you actually played either class?

Falcon 1 is pretty disappointing for both of them.

Mergen:
Triple arrow works well enough once you get +3 aoe ratio from equipment. Minor gains from circling.

Arrow Sprinkle gets 0 benefit from Falcon 1. It gets huge gains via aiming, but you can't be Falcon 3 and Mergen until r9.

Homing arrow does benefit greatly from circling, but it's mechanically an awful skill that takes too long to charge, will fall off in r9 and is not worth building around it. Best usage for Homing is TBL, where you can basically one shot anything that isn't under an invincibility skill.

All other mergen skills are obviously irrelevant and no one uses them.

Cannoneer:
I have one and I hate it so much that I will just say cannoneer is shit in PvE and Falcon 1 is mostly a PvE choice. Mechanically speaking, the synergy isn't that great either but that's mostly due to how disappointing cannon skills are.
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Someone let me leech bees!
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>when you gain the power to control space-time
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>>160433591
>using a taco as hat

lol
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>>160433539
Ch 3, right by the bridge. Not a great spot but the party's yours if you want it.
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>>160433426
Falc with Can works but god the setup time along with the chance of the fucking bird bugging out makes it a chore,
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Any fencers here? Virtov plate robe or Shade and full leather?
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>>160433680
You eat some strange tacos, mister!
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Based Patsch.
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>>160434550
>lunarRabbit

I hate that hue
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>tfw looked at ToS shortcut
>tfw said not today
Is this how it begins the dropping?
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>>160434550
Lunar is trying to put a party together in shout to KS him now. This is the most care bear PVE autism I've seen in a while.
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>>160434858
It's not a party to ks him, dumb retard. He just renamed his sotrage grinding party.

How retarded can you get as to defend utter autists like Patsch?
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>>160434967
Nah they had a 5 man party grind and I broke it up (Kirito was in there too)

I just wanted to get better exp by following their group and out killing their spawns
Its better than being alone in a whole map myself
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>>160434967
>
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>>160434967
t.huerabbit
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>>160430338
: (
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>>160435126
>Wizard 3
ok
>Linker 3
ok
>Warlock
???
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>>160435152
You are such a manchild.
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>>160435291
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fucking hues i swear
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>>160434967
>It's not a party to ks him, dumb retard
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Is this any good? How 2 rogue?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31138b997
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>>160435351
>>160435463
Okay kiddo you can stop now. Pretty sad for somebody supposed to be a """""""""grandpa""""
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>>160435490
>How 2 rogue?

You don't pick it.
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>>160435490
Yo Patsch, hit me up.
You just do your thing, say "fuck off" at me, I'll make a screen and get money from that retard.
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>>160435490
Someone's assblasted enough to create a KS/griefing party.
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>>160435557
Not whoever you think I am megacuck try again
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>>160435490
kek, i'm going to ks that retard too for the lulz
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>2016 Korea Game Awards elections were heavily rigged and the judges were all in Kims pocket as well as multiple Chinese voter-bots were used, funded entirely by Kim
How we can stop Kim?
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>>160435224
my build too
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>accidentally opened the crafting window after i looted a new material to my inventory
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>Guy fails to ks me because he's slow around the map and I have quest warp
>gets buttmad and tells me I'm running when I just easily warp from room to center everytime to get

cant make this shit up

I'm having a blast
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>>160436401
I mean saying you're beating him by avoiding him is sort of like saying you're winning a fight by dodging all your opponent's punches.
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>>160435490
That's a terrible build. You realize that you cannot use half of those abilities while mounted right?
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>>160436401
That's why you have no friends besides your subhuman erp partner.
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>>160436719
Most of everything I'd use is said to be used while mounted by tosbase. I'm actually concerned whether I can use hacker skills while not mounted

Either way I have no idea what to take with it.
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>>160436401
lunar is prime mute material but I don't know what you're bragging about either
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>>160436635
Not really
I just grind with almost no interference while he wastes his time on his 317 SR to try to ks me with his mergen friend

>>160436832
My cutie is worth more than the rest of the server so I'm fine with that
Also I have friends, not you though
I don't like bitches like you
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>>160436832
>american telling me sub human

Ha ! don't me laugh cletus.
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>>160437207
>american
>subhuman
>american
>rules the world
>world is ruled by subhumans
>you aren't american
>you're ruled by subhumans
rly fires up those neurons
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>>160435971
Make a better game.
Or server emulator.
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>>160437162
>I just grind with almost no interference while he wastes his time on his 317 SR to try to ks me with his mergen friend
What do you want him to do you fucking autist?
You ended his grinding party out of pure autism for no reason.

What's sad is how fucking Rance somehow thinks it's praiseworthy.
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>>160436923
You can't use them while dismounted

Reroll something else tbqh
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>>160437295
>american rules the world
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>>160437426
Like what? I asked how2rogue. It's the only thing I'm really interested in for archer classes.
>>
>my plant disappeared before 1h

what the fuck
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>>160437597
Mobs killed it.
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>>160437476
What's the most powerful country in the world?
What country has the most military bases and missile emplacements around the world?
I know you're mad because you're not part of the greatest country in history, but come on.
>>
>>160437295

>americans rule the world

lol jews rule the world
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>>160437484
Rogue goes better with Mergen than Hacka, especially if you're trying to be sneaky with stealth/burrow. Rogue 3 with archer 2 gives you a lot of evasion and feint takes care of accuracy. You can go full STR and still have the necessary stats you get from DEX filled by your abilities.
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>>160437623

LOL, is this even possible? I left mine at green manor, aaaaaaaa
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>>160437396
I didnt end it for no reason

I was merely using the same room to make use of the spawns
In fact they tried to KS me first
But it doesn't matter I just enjoy some competition either way in the boring grind
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>>160437295
>american rule the world
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>>160437720
Even if that was true, that doesn't change America from being the most powerful country in the world. It just means the most powerful country in the world is ruled by Jews.
>non-Americans attempting logic
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Monster's critical resistance is based solely on his CON?
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Are you cute yet?
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>>160437757
Is there anything that bleeds enemies besides hunter and fletcher?
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>>160438297
Yus
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/bullies/ when?
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>>160438225
Yes
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>>160438346
Hak's Storm Bolt has a chance of inlicting bleed.
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should you even bother with parthian shaft?

i mean, i am all for gimmicky builds, but using it denies ALL your other mergen abilities, including motherfucking arrow sprinkle, and you also lose the ability to use any of the reiter abilities, unless IMC plans to give them the dragoon treatment i just dont see the good points of using it.
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>>160438389
Agapi and Mia?
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Homunculus when? The wait is worse than with RO's homunculuses and I didn't even survive that wait.
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>>160438389
>>160438389
I'm very proud of your hard work keep it up
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>>160439235
How could they let this happen anyway. It's a core part of a class and they took several months to fix it in korea.
How is this even remotely possible.
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>>160439397
they dont actually play the game
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>>160439397
>It's a core part of a class and they took several months to fix it in korea.
Fix what? Can you even make it with the drops? There's still no videos.
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>>160438575

Thanks, anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2Kf_ZqgQ-A

>lv 9 transbow

top kek. of course aiming helps there to connect all hits but still impressive
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>>160438297
pretty /comfy/ if you ask me
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Anyone have the new green gem values? This chart is a bit outdated (it was before the green gems small buff).

Currently my lv 5 green gems gives 26, and the charts shows 22 (old value). I wanna now how much lv 6 and lv 7 green gems gives.

Rest is okay.
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>>160439701
>Fix what?
The fact that you can't craft it because one item doesn't drop (Yekubite Teeth). This was fixed only recently in ktos.
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Meanwhile the monkey that has the advantege of their monkey comrades is still winning. TFW

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/edit-perfect-10-top-model-event-vote-here/336947/
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>>160440263

Homunculus isn't even properly implemented in iTOS anyway. Even if the items did drop you couldn't make them.

Also, I specifically remember IMC saying the items did drop a while back. Shows how little IMC actually test shit.
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>>160440363
>you couldn't make them
Why? I have all the materials so far, minus the yekubite crystal.
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>>160440292
dumb frogposter
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You nerds still play this game?
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>>160440494

Homunculus just aren't implemented in iTOS yet. Same reason you can't get to rank 9 yet, shit just doesn't exist in the games files.
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>>160438389
>>160439221
Agi is rude af!
and spooky noface
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>>160433591
>that hat

Cuuute
but not as cute as this
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>>160440902

I just wanted to say you're pretty cute!
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>Monster:
>The 'Blue Wendigo Searcher' in Ruklys Hall of Fame will now drop Red Gems instead of Green Gems.

>Nuo:
> Fixed issue where the mob was dropping kepa skins.

GAME FUCKING SAVED


>【New Additions】

>Free Dungeon:
> 4 new Free Dungeons will be added. You can acess these areas from the maps listed below:
> - Gytis Settlement Area → Nakhon Prison (Recomended Level - Lv.150)
> - Dina Bee Farm → Nataeu Watchtower (Recomended Level - Lv.170)
> - Ruklys Street → Tatenai Imprisonment (Recomended Level - Lv.190)
> - Stogas Plateau → Neiport Cathedral East (Recomended Level - Lv.210)

>'Giant Monsters' will spawn in these newly added Free Dungeons.
> - The Giant Monster acts like ringleaders and can be denoted with an aura surrounding the monster.
> - This monster drops 2x the amount of items dropped by normal monsters, you also can obtain 2x exp and silver from it.

>New ‘Unidentified’ items and an Appraisal NPC has been added.
>- You can acquire Unidentified items through the newly added Free Dungeons. (17/11/2016 Maint)
>- Unidentified items cannot be equipped, enhanced, socket added, transcended or awakened.
>- You can appraise these items from the Appraisal NPC 'Sandra' located in Fedimian.
>- When appraising an item, the socket & potential can increase by 2x the default amount.
>- These items cannot be appraised more than once.

nice too i guess?
http://pastebin.com/qCHDJgyS
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>>160441276
Only for the new items?
lame

>- When appraising an item, the socket & potential can increase by 2x the default amount.
>- These items cannot be appraised more than once.
no increase, get new item, no increase, get new item, no increase, get new item, no increase, get new item, no increase, get new item, no increase, get new item, no increase, get new item..
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>>160440292
A vote for Chupacabra Schoolgirl is a vote for /tosg/ #MakeKlaipedaGreatAgain
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>>160440627
But it is, the only thing missing is the yekubite crystal (or teeth)
https://tos.neet.tv/items/649608
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/58571
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>>160441276

They also added almost 50 new pieces of equipment. It's all low level stuff (120-170) but a lot of it has amazing stats.
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>>160441938
>https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/58571
>3D model
*unziping intensifies*
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Reminder to vote against WatchGintama because he uses JP voices which is against the rules :^)
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>>160442307
There's people who use korea dog voices?
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>>160416705
but we are getting r9 before the year's end
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>>160442529

Korea might. But we sure as shit wont.
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>>160442441
>There's people who use voices? and sound at all?

>>160442667
probably not even KR
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>>160441974
>It's all low level stuff (120-170) but a lot of it has amazing stats.
>Double socket & potential at them
not bad for armors, but base dmg at these weapons will be shitty
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can i put more points into Toucher than Lunge? with this you can now use Toucher->Lunge both skills in one second, Total of 9 hits

>mfw that samurai delayed damage
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>>160443745

The weapons aren't so good, but the armor is really fucking good for the level.

I hope they add more armor but at a higher level.
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>>160443869

Toucher is fun for that combo alone and to try your luck before a cata engages you.

you can also cancel it into sept etoiles, unfortunately you can't double both skill with preparation

also, toucher cooldown is too high, seriously, it's not worth more than one point (you could do two more boosted lunges), you just got composee so you'll understand that in a few more hours
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>>160440201
lv6=38
lv7=52
both main
>>160443869
lunge cd is shorter
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>>160443869
neat
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>>160444406

Thanks, anon! 52 really keeps my interest in green gems. This will save my build since I had to use the reset potion in another char (my fencer is a 1:1:5 build) so I'll just pump the last points into dex and keep green gems. As long as I'm critting I'll do fine, less than min-maxers with red gems but at least I keep my block pen and Con
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>>160446219
oh no, it's retarded
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>>160440201
Reg gems on gloves really give so little crit atk?
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Kirito here
I just would like to say that I love you Beethoven
Please come back I want to have your babies
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>>160447663

Yes, they didn't buff gloves gems

they should buff at least block pen, full con ~wizards and clerics~ at pvp is pure cancer, a swordsman needs to spread toward dex to hit, dex to crit, con to not die and str to block pen and still be shit

unless he is a cata, dev's pet class
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>>160448293
>Yes, they didn't buff gloves gems
Nice game. It's very possible that they simply forgot that they had "Gloves" slot.
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>>160448293
RIP archers, not even worth mentioning
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>>160448293
>dev's pet class
>not cleric
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>>160448293
>full con
B-But m-muh b-base damages, and n-no scaling. ;_;
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is archmage bangle worth crafting?
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>>160448670

>all the problems in the world swordsman tree (pvp)
>tbl stats demands too much spreading on a game that punishes you for doing that
>there's only one class that does well in pvp for that tree is arguably broken
>Rush buffed from (yourbase atk that is actually huge thanks to the 315 spear + skill damage) * fucking 32 hits that chain stun you forever unles (cleric) is envolved to (YOURBASEATK THAT IS ACTUALLY HUGE THANKS TO THE 315 SPEAR + <<<<<<FUCKING 50 %>>>> + SKILL DAMAGE THAT IS DECENT ALREADY FOR R6 VALUES * 32 MOTHERFUCKING HITS THAT STILL CHAIN STUNS YOU FOREVER UNLESS ((CLERIC)) IS INVOLVED
>PAIN BARRIER NEARLY INFINITE NOW IF YOU'RE SWORDSMAN 3

hey kim how about the other sword guy that likes the class diversity, highlanders, barbarians, hoplites and shit that enj-

ARE YOU IMPRRYING THAT SWORDSMAN IS WEAK? CHEAT THOSE DRAGOONS, THEY ARE SWORDSMAN RIGHT? Y-YES AND THEY ARE DOING WELL, HERE ENJOY THOSE CATA BUFFS THEY ARE GOOD AND RUN AS FAST AS OUR BELOVED SPORT CARS

b-bu

Kim Hakkyu run from the conversation holding a wooden broom, entered his convertible Ferrari and left their building at a very high speed with spinning the wooden objetic over his head and hitting random pedestrians with it
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>>160450162
>RUN AS FAST AS OUR BELOVED SPORT CARS
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>>160450162
>Cata is a lower rank than Corsair
>Corsair is one of the weakest C2 and C3 classes in the game

just
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>>160414827
Why can't I hug Api!!!
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>ToS Mobile looks unironically better
Anyone else feel the same? I might actually return to that version.
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>>160451708
It's weird, the mobile version doesn't seem to have the FPS problems.
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>>160451942
w-why
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>>160453367
Phones have better processing power than your toaster.

Now kys poorfag.
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I'm holding out hope they add Spr scaling to the holy damage on Sacrament+last rites. Make auto attack builds great again.
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>>160453642
>Make auto attack builds great again.
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>>160453507
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>>160453642

dude, if they boost spr too much the game is over

there are +90 spr bracelets at the p2w shop
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>>160454074
who thought it was a good idea to put 90 spr BRACELETS in the tp shop - 90 block pen, 90 mdef, and you can use two, like wtf was IMC thinking
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>>160454247
90 spr is not 90 mdef
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>>160454247

tried to psychic pressure a guy whearing two + max peta

kek

he could walk away, in and out like I was just slapping his back, rarely chained three stuns to keep him on my range
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>>160454247
>like wtf was IMC thinking
$$$
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>>160454458
psykeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Hey, here's how to save the game!

Alliance vs Alliance GvG
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>>160456497
>save the game
>PvP

No.
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>>160456497
>The biggest issue the game has is pvp

Yeah
Nah
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>>160456497
>Crimson, Lotus, Diamond vs x, y, z
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>>160456904
Lotus hates Crimson though.

It'd be more like Lotus/Diamond/Impetus vs Crimson/Alpha/Ohayou
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>>160456497
>game can barely handle 5 players on screen at the same time
>you want to put more than TWO GUILDS on screen at the same time

Madman.
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>>160457135
>Ohayou
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>>160456904
Nobody wants to do an alliance with crimson tho
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Our Crimson servants will destroy Lotus today and make us take the second place.
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>>160457135
>Ohayou
>He thinks Ohayou is relevant in anyway
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>>160457921
>tfw this was Lolipantsu's plan all along

She really is a futureproof genius
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>>160457135
>Ohayou

LMAO
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>>160457823
>>160458049
>>160458452
Post your guild
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Defend this game.

Now I'm going to take a nap, and when I wake up I expect to see some good defenses.
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>>160458687
Api plays it so it gives me a reason to live!!!
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>>160458751
Api is a grown man with a wife. And since you're not his wife...
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>>160458612
Ohayou

Now, you post it.
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>>160458612
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>>160458687
It's a cute! CUTE!!
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>>160458803
no!!!!
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>>160438742
You can use it unmounted
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>>160458961
nice thumbnail
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>>160459797
>>
Rate my Wugushi C3 redesign!

Jincan Gu - Throw Jincan, spreading your Needle Blow and Wugong Gu to all affected targets. Enemies who die this way spawn poison insects.

New! - Poison Detonation:
Deal x damage and detonate your poisons on the target, dealing damage equal to (skill level + 5) of the remaining time left on your Needle Blow and Wugong Gu to enemies within a radius around the target.
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>>160460405
>dreams come true.jpg
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>>160460501
Detoxify has been turned into an attribute. Makes you immune to poison (wugu 1v1 will have to use other circles)

Bewitch is now a 2 second stun with a 27 second cooldown.

Zhendu now also increases your party's poison attack by X and isn't removed on the first attack.

Throw Gu Pot poison pot cost reduced to 10.
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>>160460405
>Currently in 3rd place

Stop living in the past.
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/fan-vid-rigged-conspiracy-or-coincident/336971/

Fashion event conspiracy? Or dumb people?
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>>160416015
The three things that made Ragnarok great:
Grinding.
MVPs.
WoE.

TOS failed at all 3.
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>>160461569
>Not first
Get good
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>>160457823
>>160458049
>>160458452
Ohayou is on the same level as Impetus, so it evens out.
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>>160457135
>Crimson and Alpha working together
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>>160462739
who can stop them
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>>160462739
>>160462972
>Crimson
F.O.E.
and they already did stop them
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>>160462972
Future proof!
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>>160462120

that helena is a qt
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>>160461532
>>160460501
No one cares! No one cares about Wugu!
>>
west siauliai born and raised
on the streets on klaipeda is where i spent most of my days...
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So what does a proper Dragoon build look like these days? Thinking about going the Sword > Pelt > Hop 3 > Doppel > Dragoon 2 build. Is full dex overkill with Finestra? Can't find a decent skill layout on google
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>>160465549
who cares, just hit that dethrone key
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>>160465549
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449ff.23334455.153545.1f3f6571.153555.112155
>full dex
grab some con then
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>>160465549
Sword 3 Cata 3 Dragoon 2

Anything else is pointless.
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>>160465549

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449ff.23334455.11213541.1f3f516571.153555.112a314155

Pure PVE? Well, I would roll something like 50 con 50 str 250 dex, saving leftover points in case things change (again)

skillwise is this: max pain barrier over concentrate because conc is useless at r8 (imo)
pelt = guardian 1~5, depends on your personal taste, but I must say that def plate armor + asp 17 + guardian 5 is sexy

>hoplite
finestra 15, spear throw 5, stabbing 15, rest are one point wonders, leftovers can go on pierce for an extra burst early on

>doppel

no brainer, cyc 5 to kill slash, deeds 5 for super attack buff wheen needed, double play because mords is useless and demands a two handed

>dragoon c2
core skills is serpentine max (since the first hit applies the debuff and you always use it fist, max it, the damage is nice, memethrone 5. gae bolg (optional lv 5 for attribute), dragon soar (another slash), dragoontooth (strong pierce multihits, but higher levels takes more time to charge so I'm not sure if it's worth a 10 points)

you can pvp with it but I would chance hop 3 for corsair 1 at least
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>>160466491
>pvp
>with a dragoon without cataphract's block pen attribute
You are going to regret this. A lot.
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>>160466998

works well for 2x2. memethrone is cheating.

>full con cancer cleric inq
>beware of seven memes (specially pets)
>equip block penetration gear (brandish, 2x glass, bone gauntlets)
>dethrone 2x (dethrone's snare bypass prophecy/bloodletting so only beakmask saves your ass
>hook (ez hook o nstopped character) or chain knockdown
>combo combo
>knockdown
>dethrone again
>cleric can't walk over healtiles when dethrone
>rape him softly

>archer
>equip accuracy spear and leather gloves
>pssh, nothing... personnel.

>swordsman (dex)
>equip accuracy spear and leather gloves
>pssh, nothing... personnel.

>wizard int
>equip accuracy spear and leather gloves
>pssh, nothing... personnel.

>wizard con
>pray he's not a full con cryokino
>proceed a cleric
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>>160468432
>anything with con
>blocks every attack
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>>160468673

nah

spears/swords have ltos of options to deal with block, plus, you on't go full dex your retarded
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>>160468826
>making the mistake I did
>ignoring advice to the contrary
You chose this.
>>
these market price limitations are retarded
>item takes 3 hours to farm
>max price i can list it for is 200k
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>>160468889

post your character. hide teamname if you want. stats, gears, and skills
>>
Consider the following.

A hidden spellsword class for both Swordsman and Wizards. The class is the exact same regardless of which base class you started as.
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>>160469851
I wish.
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>>160469851
I'd rather them have slight differences between them. Maybe like 1 unique skill.
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>>160469851

paladin had to be the sword/cleric crossclass but lel, they made that shit barrier maker
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I'm weak and bought a gacha.
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>>160468826
>3500 block using C shield without stone skin
>thinks his spear will get through
how cute, just because you wreck dex/con or str/con builds doesnt >imply that a well built tank cant sit there and face tank all your attacks with ease
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>>160471251
>see Swaaz
>play keep away
>dethronewebm.webm
bye idiot!!!!!
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>>160471251
>shitposting about someone who isnt T1
>who has proven to beat meta builds with sheer willpower
>can 2 hit beet's inquisitor AND HAS DONE SO multiple times
>beet can only win if he hides in ausrine and only approaches during ausrine otherwise he runs away until its back on rotation
>needing to be a tryhard against a squire3
for fucks sake, my rank is low because it hasnt reset from when i used to que as squire3. for the 50th god damn time i cant even get into TBL matches because my rank wont reset. i que for 60 mins and not once do i get into a fight.
stop implying im shit how about you 1vs1 me then? my rank isnt resetting and you have no right to shitpost and damage control against a squire3 low-tier class like really dont you have something better to do like complain about ausrine or getting 1 hit constantly?
fight be bitch if u think ur soo good, judging me based off of my squire3 rank 7 rank which cant be reset? youre trash
headbutt does 15k damage twice, unless you run around like some pussyfooted faggot who only approaches during ausrine and uses dispellers so i cant use arrest in town pvp then you legit have no reason to gloat when you need to be meta T1 just to beat lowest tier ingame.
heres video of a scenario in which 100% of any cookie cutter sheeple glass build would of just gotten 1-hit from any of the clerics moves, and again i literally get into NO matches at all. id have a ton more footage if i didnt que for 60 mins straight and never get in a match
>HAHA XDXD why you soo autistic stop sperging out spastic

wtf u want me to do when these jackasses insist that im shit but refuse to fight me 1vs1?
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>>160471617
>bullying Healmage
This will not stand. I'm going to log in and fuck her myself.
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>>160471617
>bullying healnigga
great!
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>>160471251

gatos sends his regards
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>>160471251
Any time I have swaaz he's a nonfactor if we win or the last person to die if we lose.
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>someone put joint penalty gem on the market for 5m
>I go to the team storage to take my money
>gem is gone

yjghjreg
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>>160471813

he had like 5 frames to use C guard and he just keep walking, top kek
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>>160473208
>Not lugging around your whole wealth
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>>160474120
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>>160461203
why did you post a webm of healmage in real life?
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>>160472060
but healmage is a 20 something girl that's 1/4 japanese and 3/4 chinese in real life
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>>160475280
>3/4 chinese in real life
>close to 30
gas it now
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>>160471617
>my lowbies asked nicely earlier
They seem to forget how they bullied not naming names with their 3 top memes in a low level area yesterday.
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>>160475280
I'm also a 20 something asian girl irl but I don't go around whoring myself ingame.
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You know what? RMT buyers are more legitimate than AFK silver farmers. At least RMT buyers have to get real money to get what they want. That means they may work a job or have a disability check or something. But AFK silver farmers? No, they just leave the game on and rake in enough silver to crash the economy. Fuck them, they are cancer.
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>not even a single build feels appealing anymore
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>>160475447
They don't have any other options. Every time a fight breaks out the chat log is filled with FP killing like 4-6 of them for every one of them that dies. I want to feel bad for them but I just can't because of Jace.
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one fire burns out anothers burning
one pain is lessened by another’s anguish
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>>160476161

worst combination of costume, hat, hair, hair color and weapon that I ever see
and I play since icbt2

someone help this girl
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>futureproof is almost second place in GBL

i-im sorry for ever doubting you
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>>160476481
there's no cure for retard, we'll have to put her down
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>>160476161
looks pretty good. cute
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>>160475986
>Not leaving your Necro in game while you go to work
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>>160476161
Honest opinion
The hat looks so out of place.
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>>160477117
That's almost as powerful as your Corsair...
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>>160475507
>brown indian girls thinks they are cute too
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>>160477117
If only more cards have effect on wugu.

Idiot question, where does steam place the recorded vids?
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>>160477117
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>>160477480
steamapps/common/treeofsavior/release/avicapture

>>160477227
no bully please
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>>160477480
steam>steamapp>common>tos>release>avicapture
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>>160475507
>filipina
>asian
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>>160475507
I too am also a 12 year old girl, but I whore myself everywhere teehee!
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>>160477929
but anon
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What's the range of money you can get from the silver boxes in the exchange shop?
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>>160477673
>>160477736
Thanks
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>>160478252
50k to 10mil. It's almost always 50k-500k though. You're much better off selling whatever you gacha
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>>160477570
I forgot to include Canceril, but I have an old webm of it on my first Wugu.

Reaverpede knocks down monsters, but I'm not sure if it knocks down players.
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>>160478252
Pitiful 10k to 10m but you'll get 300k on average.

10k, 50k, 100k, 300k, 500k, 1m, 5m, and 10m
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>elememe can't dps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2RSceiDb00

now even his final form
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>>160477335
>>160477929
I'm 1/2 Chinese, 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 Singaporean.
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>>160478629
will this become another /tosg/ selfie episode
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>>160478629
Show me your dick
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>>160478327
>You're much better off selling whatever you gacha
I was considering buying cheap hats and turning them in. they're starting to drop to like 400kish.
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>People using P2W potions in 2v2

Pure cancer, I'm out of this semen slurping game mode.
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>>160479050
If you're floating in silver and have a gambling problem then follow your dreams anon. You may make a profit but it is quite a big risk. I can say that I've done it at least 20 times and the most I've gotten is 1mil with 4/5's being under 300k.
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>>160479172
step it up poorfag
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>>160478843
>1/2 Chinese
>3/4 nigger

Kim approves of this math
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>>160478885
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>>160476497
>3 wins 14 loses
>ranks are bugged, simply entering makes you top 10 because nobody que's
>even if you lose 100% of the time youre still in top 10
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>>160478629
sounds 100% cute i hope
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>>160478346
what does honeypin card do?

does 1 card stand out in all scenarios as the best option?

do all these cards deal around the same damage but have different hit boxes?
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>>160480328
literally free TP for being in a guild.
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>>160480572
droplets fall on you, I htink it kd too
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>>160478608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm0FeRAh-W0
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>>160480572
I don't have Honeypin card, the cheapest one on Klai is 800k and I'm a poor Wugu.

Canceril card is probably the best general use card, it hits more times and more reliably. Reaverpede is better in PvP, it knocks down players in a big AoE and keeps them in your poison for at least a few ticks.

They all deal around the same damage, ~200, and have different hit boxes. Hitbox is why Canceril is so useful, that and the amount of hits it does. You can spread your Wugong Gu really quickly with Canceril because it hits quite a few times and is hard to miss.
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>>160481000
appreciate it, looking forward to knowing the final card wugu has in its disposal and what its hitboxes are some day in the future
i bought 1 of each just incase they ever get buffed. not including honeypin
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>>160481182
Is Alsheyra Italian?
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>>160481000
You're on klai?
I have a honeypin card on a card i'm not using, you can have it since i moved to Telsiai.
I can't stand the horrible 300-400 ping
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>>160481629
who the fuck is aleysera
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>>160481000
You there anon?
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>>160480917
Fuck doggey for throwing those matches earlier, but at least in these matches there were heals and an mdef buff. Also, thanks for the song
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>seeing your crush sit with someone else

I have no reaction image for this feeling.
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>>160482586
Yeah, I'm here. Meet me in Klai channel 4 next to Cleric Master!
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Scroll through your monsters tab in your adventure journal and post your highest damage!
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>>160441105
I know this character!
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>>160483101
thats my gf
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>>160483253
you fucking wish
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>>160483424
nvm ur too ugly to be my gf
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>Inner Wall District
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>>160482586
>>160481739
Thanks a ton for the card! Here it is in action.

It's comparable to the Reaverpede. Has a much wider range and duration, but is more delayed. It'd probably be better in 5v5/GBL than Reaverpede.
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>>160481739
How's Telsiai? Is comfy still there/alive?
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>>160443869
>Don't speak to me. You are already dead.
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>>160484064
Alive but kind of laggy (mostly on every ch1 and ch2) due to IMC fucking up something on SEA server after the last update/maint.
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>>160483968
You're welcome and i also did it for my own benefit.
I want to see what it does with wugu since i am planning on making one.
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>>160449947
it's BiS for damage :^) wizards, but it's a tiny increase so it doesn't really matter
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Cute is full of ERPing degenerates, they should be purged.
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dead game, dead general and infested with normies >>160486929

let's play ro with /v/ instead
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>>160482859
8/10 of my matches last week were with having doggey as a partner
this was the only match he tried helping on, and i believe its partly due to the fact that i cursed him out and put him on ignore for being a piece of trash in the match prior.
its a good song, but big daddy doesnt want me using dank music in my pvp montages or else it gets struck with copyright infringement and puts ads on my videos. so ima have to stick to remix's for any videos that i take seriously.
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>>160487026
Way ahead of you!
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>blow off TBL today to play another game
>think this is it, I'm finally gonna be free, this is the first step
>really regret skipping it and wish I queued within the next 3 hours
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>>160481747
a crimson tryhard shitposter who spends his days afking on necro 24 hours a day and buying lv100 attributes on his 3 full con cleric accounts then proceeds to brag about beating squire3's in arena 5vs1
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>>160487026
>>160487178
Bye.
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>>160487395

>>160471813
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>>160486929
They're too busy ERPing to post here.
Really makes you think.
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>>160487178
FUCK OFF DEMON
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Which skill do I use Preparation with?

Assuming Fencer has 1k Phys attack (low)

Fente lv 7 deals 11k + 1k, with prep it deals 24k (1 hit)

Flash lv 7 deals 3.3k + 1k, with prep it deals 13k total of 3 hits

Sept lv 7 deals 302 + 1k, with prep it deals 10k but with 8 hits total with more chances to crit
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WARNING: GESTI IS A WHORE
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>>160488958
AND NO I WON'T DELETE THIS
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>>160488958
>whore
>>160489079
>virgin loserbitch

uhm
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>>160488902

My Fencer with lv 7(9) skill, lv 40 sept attribute deals more damage with Sept + prep than Fente lv 5 (7) + Prep if Coquille is involved AND I crit all the 8 hits (which is a reality if I use fente first to reduce's mobs's crit resist).

Fleche loses to both but it's close, but will falls of even harder when I upgrade the other two skills more.

Sept attribute is cheaper to upgrade so... I'm not 100% sure, but it depends entirely on your phys.attack and I don't remember mine. Sept will probably beat Fente on all scenarios past 1.3k +physical/critical attack/elemental damage imo (better weapon, thauma buffs, enchant lightning and etc).

but keep in mind people advise sept l 1 now so it may take a few more attack before it beating fente.

others scenarios like serpentine/spear lunge on leather mobs, (maybe even on plate if a hop2goon2 is envolved) are also better used with sept than fente since you'll hit the damage cap and waste damage. When I do crossguard into prep fente combo I hit the damage cap vs leather, but sept deals around 300k total damage iirc.
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>>>/v/358017105

new thread
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>>160489492
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>>160489624
THIS IS ALSO A WHORE
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>>160489451
Your Sept that deals more damage than Fente is just level 1? im still confused if I want to go 5 lunge and 10 Sept since Lunge past c2 isnt that useful anymore damage wise as you will be losing DPS by casting it
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EVERYTHING IN THIS GAME IS A GACHA CUBE
GACHAPON HALLOWEEN EVENT
GACHAPON SEED FARMING EVENT
GACHAPON BOSSES
STORE REPLACED WITH GACHAPON
REMEMBER TO DO YOUR DAILY GACHAPONS

I WANT TO STUFF KIM'S BODY PARTS INTO A HUNDRED SEPARATE GACHAPONS
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>>160489667
yes ofc
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>>160490469
Kim's car is a gachapon too. He's almost at it though so keep going and get him his car!
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>>160490518
wow...
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>>160489798

Sorry, my Sept is lv 7 (9, venier) +40% from attributes vs Lv 5(7)Fente with 30% attributes.

Lunge 5(7) is enough to hit 2k evasion, but I don't see lunge as a DPS loss, it does 4 hits very fast.

But I understand your doubt, specially when they buffed composee's damage a few patches ago and well, while lunge's attribute is cheaper to upgrade (rank 6), improving both skills will not be affordable later when you reach around 85%++.

Lunge 15 attack power is 1281, Composee 1141. but there's one thing, are you a badass enough fencer to roll with lv 10 attaque composee? the sp drain is insane. I think that you already saw that pic...
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How are murms pve wise? Are they on par with goons and fencers or are they more pvp meme
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>>160491254
All rank 8 swordman are top tier PvE
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What did she mean by this?
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>>160492181
Slut.
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>>160492181
Obviously her poison reservoir
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>>160492181
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lol dead thread
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Fuck mouringaka
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>>160492291
>has left.
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>>160492181
She's crying because it hurts but (You) won't stop
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DAD
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MOM
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>>160494993
MOMMY
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>>160494993
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>>160494993
R.I.P. BIG FAT
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Dadth!
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What is the crit cap anons?
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A question does crit damage get added during or after the spaghetti damage calculations?

I mean , if i have 1k crit attack would it be a flat bonus or would it be modified?
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>>160496339
100%

>>160496627
Before modifiers
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>>160498019
I can whistle, but I never quite got down the trick of shooting lighting from my mouth.
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anyone else fucking love (_Me_) ?
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>>160498114
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no>>160498114
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>>160498098
>she cant shoot lighting from her mouth.
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Any full STR or STR heavy fucks in here?
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>>160498207
yeah alright! i dont like that guy too.
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>>160498331
yea what do you want fucker
>>
>>160498550
Do you use Red, Green, or Yellow?
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>>160498645
green but you should just go full dex
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>>160498741
But i already have 100 points in STR and 50 in DEX.
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It's worth using 5 lvl 6 reds on a 5 hammer?
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>>160498780
Only 150? Easy to reroll.
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>>160498905
There's also that 50 CON and 38 unallocated stats.
inb4 >unallocated stats
I just like putting them in bulks.
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>>160499019
what class are you
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>>160499153
Scout 3 > CAN1

Kill me.
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>>160499193
lol
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>>160499214
It's fun though it's an SP whore
>>
with a saalus map being removed from ktos, does that mean magburk + kirmeleech cards dont drop anywhere anymore?
>>
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=733

your annual "answering questions we made up" thread is up boys and beet trap lovers
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Im confused with the whole appraising thing, does it only apply to unidentified items? or can they apply to normal items too?

because im thinking of awakening my venier
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>>160500389
2
T W O

QUESTIONS
Why make a post for TWO fucking questions, that aren't even relevant. Is IMC that short on money or they just don't care?
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>>160500389
10/10 as always
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>>160500425

Unidentified items only.
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>>160500495
Or they're drowning in t that they don't care.
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>>160500425
As far as I can tell it works like this.
They are adding new area's they are calling free dungeons or something.
Mobs there will be harder than normal area's and drop new gear.
That gear comes with ???? sockets
You take it to an appraiser and the ???? because 1 socket or more.
No idea of maximum sockets.
It only works with the new items from these new area's so go ahead and awaken, upgrade or transcend your current gear.
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>>160500495
>Is IMC that short on money
They just make thousands of dollars with the gachas, what do you think?
>>
>>160500425
>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=733
It would take like 10 minutes for them to add an option to the hotkey settings in game for you to be able to assign a hotkey to talk to NPCs while in mouse mode AND make it so you could offhand attack with the right mouse button.
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>>160500495

I honestly can't tell what the fuck is happening at IMC anymore.

They go weeks adding long patches of mostly minor shit in Korea as if they've got one person left working on the game. Then they surprise us by adding a bunch of new dungeons and 50 new pieces of equipment that are actually well designed and even have new art assets.

It makes no sense, they're so fucking inconsistent.
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>>160500495
Hotfix within a day (weed) or two (anvil)
Resolved SEA server issue (not laggy anymore for me anyway)

>>160500903
They probably got enough funding to throw at the game thanks to gook whales
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>>160501163
Did you have to restart everything or anything like that? Not getting the retarded lag from before but still a bit here and there
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>>160501550
I had to quit my client and restart the game.
Though i would admit the lag is still there but you won't notice unless you specifically try to find it.
Another one to check is your ISP.
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>>160501829
Yeah after restarting it seems to run a bit smoother, surprised they fixed it this quickly. Was expecting it to run into next maint
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wait i have been lagging since maintenance, did they fix this a few mins ago? because i havent restarted yet
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>>160502312
Yeah more or less, restart everything I'd suggest
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>>160502312
Restart the game, they might have added a small ninja patch/hotfix.
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>join saalus party
>2 times a row the druid uses henge stone crashing everybody and not letting them get cubes

10/10 game tostards
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>>160500389
I always thought beet was a boy(man) was I wrong?
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>>160502712
Do Saalus
Druid uses Stone Henge
No one crashes
Everyone get cubes as usual
What?
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>>160503139
Luck of the draw, some druids were destined to be real druids
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>>160503139
1/10000 occurences aren't relevant
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>>160502712
>>160503524
>Crashing from henge stone
Time to upgrade your toasters boys.
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>>160503619
But this isn't a peripheral problem, what do you mean.
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>>160503729
I don't crash when druid uses henge.
Moreso during the weed exploit
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i dun hav tepee how do i get a penguin?
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>>160503952
>missed out on weed exploit
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160503619
Henge Stone crashing is very random
Sometimes the Druid won't crash you
Sometimes the Druid crash you and the whole party
Sometimes the Druid himself
Sometimes the Druid crash himself and the whole party triggering auto dungeon fail
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mfw friend quitting
mfw tearing up while he tries to give me his stuff
mfw i remember all the good times
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>>160505464
Quit too
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>>160505464
>>160505540
Try to give me your stuff before you do
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>Last 24 hour peak was 5026 players
We are losing people daily
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>>160505464
At least they tell you when they ditch you, I literally rolled a linker3thaum3 gimmick build for our group and the whole party practically left me and the game without even telling me in-game about it.
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>>160486536
well i already have wiz bracelets
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>>160430338
>>160505748
: (
>>
Remember to support your local /tosg/ guilds and vote Chupacabra Schoolgirl https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/edit-perfect-10-top-model-event-vote-here/336947
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>>160508198
Healcrafting is the only good one and way better than that furfag shit.
>>
>>160508198
I only voted for you because I know you won't win. Just like Trump.
>>
what is uphill carry and can i get lots of exp from it?
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>>160509597
defense i mean
>>
what a sad thread
>>
>Barely got to lvl 60 before I got fed up with all this fucking non-stop grinding.

Oh well, it was fucking repetitive as shit.
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>>160510108
Dead thread for a dead game. Who even plays this game, hehe
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>>160510164
>not just afking for 2 days to level 200 while playing hearthstone
uh??
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>>160510164
>60
>grinding

man you can LITERALLY do the dungeon till level 70 and halloween to 120+.

either way the game is fucking shit but c'mon

>>160510258
if you have heartstone WHY THE FUCK would you play a game like tree of savior?
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>>160510336
>if you like a shit game why would you like a different, equally shitty game?
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>>160509731
>>160509731
>uphill carry
lol shitter
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>>160510258
>playing Hearthstone
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>>160510181
retards from these threads and 3k others.

>koreans dropping the game quickly as fuck
>skeleton crew desperately adding shit to make sure they don't leave (spoiler it doesnt work)
>kim working solely on WOLFKNIGHTs
>imc funding tos mobile because they know ToS is fucking dead
>brToS dropped the game hard, which was one of the territories they wanted to cash in
>pandering to whales, gacha, exponential number masturbation like this was some ugly baby of maplestory and disgaea, trying hard to inflate gametime, putting such a massive distance from new players and veterans that the game becomes overwhelming, 'casuals need to git gud' mentality with the most errantic developers known to men

seriously, you'd have to be VERY special to stil play this game
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>>160510397
how are you measuring shitty games, because you'd have to be really good at making shit games to compete with ToS, and I honestly don't believe Blizzard has nearly the experience of IMC of making shitty games. You are really underselling IMC years of successes in producing the shittiest MMORPGs in the korean market.
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>>160510553
Hehe, they should just quit and move on to a better mmo.
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>>160510621
>I honestly don't believe Blizzard has nearly the experience of IMC of making shitty games.

IMC has made what? ToS and Granado Espada. 2 games. ToS is obviously inspired somewhat by Diablo 3, also an example of a shit Blizzard game.
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>>160510745
>they should just quit

Do you feel in charge...?

>>160510757
Black Citadel and Solitaire League.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfMce9wmK9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HHaWHMAQRA

Also just because they don't have a billion of games made doesn't mean they haven't got the best team of developers to make the shittiest games ever.
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>>160510908
Hehe, silly anon. I am giving a suggestion.
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>>160511016
hehehehe
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>>160511069
Hehe heh
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>>160510757
>ToS is obviously inspired somewhat by Diablo 3

So, this where all the faggots come from
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>>160508307
Wow nice edge nerd lord
Careful not to cut yourself on that
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>>160511208
Other than muh RO nostalgiafags, I don't have any idea where the others come from. Like half the shitheads make complaints that could be made against any MMORPG out there like this is their first one.

Thought there's also the typical portion who are somehow tired of WoW(/FF14) and go to play new MMOs, but then complain it's not WoW and go back to WoW to get bored again.
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>mimi was fired

ayyy enjoy your new mod
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>>160511736
This, ToS is literally fixing every issue it has patch after patch and the feedback the community gives is like, wow, "let's complain about all the things that this game does not do wrong". I mean look at these threads, the game is practically perfect and every thread we get some fucking retard talking out of his ass about a game hasn't played since June. I wish they would just fuck off back to WoW illidan boogaloo and A Realm stillborn and leave us the fuck alone.
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>>160512067
??
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>>160512162
>ToS is literally fixing every issue it has patch after patch

>Still haven't fixed the game running higher then 10 fps when 3 or more people are on the screen
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>>160512162
haha retard
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should i use all my lvl5 exp cards at lvl 170?
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who drops maledoom recipe?
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>>160513164
yeah xp reset soon
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>>160512795
They did. For the mobile version.
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>>160513393
still not enough where the hell do i grind?
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>>160512162
I play tera actually lol
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>>160513457
kysmm
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>>160513457
Literally why? What is or was even good about Tera? Those gross doll headed fat legged Elin can't be the reason, because all you can do is spend money on them.
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>>160512067
>Mimi was the janitor
Wow so she knew when I was samefagging...
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>>160513480
Wow rood. You don't have to be so tsundere. If you want to erp just let me know
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>>160513550
not him but it has its fun moments

instances can take a while to learn and it's rewarding when you clear

I stopped playing it a while ago but I heard they added two new classes, so people are probably rolling those too
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>>160513720
>instances can take a while to learn and it's rewarding when you clear
Describe in detail why they aren't repetitive shit. Note that I'm not saying ToS's dungeons are fun.
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It's even worth making a virtov plate at this point, or should I just wait for a new 315 set or something. I have it almost complete because the pants recipe were bugged, it's only that missing.

I'd rather just sell now while the price is high if it's worthless compared to 315 shit that we have(?) or will get and save my lvl 6 gems for that.
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>>160513550
I just erp random sluts like I used to. I told myself I'd stay away from it, but it's so tempting. I've spent I've $100 in the 3 weeks I've been back on rng boxes and got Jack shit. Good stuff
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>>160513450
kill counts, map exploration and halloween event
170-186 is a few days if you're really lazy
otherwise just pick any map around your level and kill stuff, you'll be surprised how fast you get xp
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>>160513823
learning them is the fun and challenging part, they do get boring after that of course

it looks like this guy >>160513848 is just playing an erp simulator anyway
/terag/ needs to be nuked into orbit
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>>160514026
There Is literally nothing wrong with terag
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>>160514026
>learning them
Learning what? Spawn patterns? How to rush them like in ToS? The specific way to beat a boss? Path through a maze? Mini-game gimmick?
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>>160514267
yes

I'm not trying to defend or promote TERA, any game where a party has to git gud together (not just through acquiring better gear) to be able to beat an encounter can be fun
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>>160514776
I'm not asking you to. I'm just asking you to explain them or link to an example or something so I can understand what "learn them" means
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The best part about tera is taking an innocent, inexperienced erper and slowly turn them into your personal pet/toy.
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>>160514972
I think it's pretty standard MMO stuff. you can get an idea by reading one of the guides

http://yggdrasilguild.shivtr.com/forum_threads/1145690

this particular boss had a debuff minigame in addition to a bunch of different attacks. it doesn't seem like much but in practice managing all these things while controlling your character and reacting to stuff can get difficult
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Talk about other MMOs in their own thread.
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>>160515850
>I think it's pretty standard MMO stuff.
I dunno people who say stuff like that usually mean "WoW is the only mmo and everything is like that"

>>160515889
Say something about ToS that isn't "it stinks."
In fact, say something nice about it.
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>>160515968
>Say something about ToS that isn't "it stinks."
>In fact, say something nice about it.
What the fuck are you smoking? I'm saying that if you want to talk about other games, do it elsewhere, you cock choking manchild.
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Fencerbros, why is the Fencer skill list full of redundant skills that are literally shitter versions of other skills? Like is there any point in getting Esquive Toucher when theres Lunge? How about Flanconnade when there is Attaque Composee? How should I place my skill points? This is what I think so far https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112367eee......1a2f31618595a5. Also can someone relink that addon that lets you hold down a button to spam a 0 cd skill with no delay? Thanks, friends.
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>>160516061
Why are you flinging insults instead of talking about ToS? go to >>>/s4s/ if you just want to shitpost.
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>>>/v/358017105
>>>/v/358017105
new thread
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>>160515591
I wish someone would do this to me
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>>160515968
The class system is nice
But plagued by the simple fact th game promote altism not because having multiple class combination in the lodge it's fun but and useful because you need Saalus slave and boring farmers
80 combination and only like 10 with a real use
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>>160516097
You even heard of cooldowns and damage types?
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>>160516473
>>160516473
>>160516473

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