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Stuck in the old thread on a night of the hunt? You poor, poor thing >>160166274

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp

>Google Document for all the above, but easier to read.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
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Remove Hunters

Gas the Beasts

Destroy all Kin
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AHH
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>>160297137
>Remove Hunters
>Gas the Beasts
>Destroy all Kin
>The real cancer is still around, but with less enemies
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Is The Old Hunters on sale? I heard people were able to get it for like $9/$10???
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>>160297162
That's one weird Amygdala.
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>>160297162
How much insight do you have?
>0 Insight
Just a bird
>1 Insight
A falcon with eyes
>30 insight
You see the baby bird
>60 insight
You see the face
>99 insight
You see the demon riding the falcons wings.
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>>160297331
Oops, didn't realize when I posted we had migrated.

Mind giving me some advice old chaps? I'm an edgeblades/claws/stakedriver kind of guy and would appreciate some input and anecdotes on those builds I mentioned.
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>>160297472
>Rifle Spear Build

40-50 SKL and 25-35 BLT. END/VIT are up to you.

Abuse the shotgun. If you put good gems in it, it's strong as fuck.
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Can anyone please help with Chalice Rom?

pass is bbg
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>>160297472
I replied to you in last thread tell me what you think in this one plz.
>>160297528
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>>160297610
lol what chalice?
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>>160297640
Every weapon that doesn't have split damage/bloodtinge scaling can be good with full elemental gems.
You can also use Logarius' Wheel and Holy Moonlight Sword with nourishing gems (those weapons are for 50arc, 25str), Tonitrus with bolt gems and Kos' Parasite with arcane gems.
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>>160297373
>only 60 insight

I need more eyes.
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>>160297757
>being this new
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>>160297757
Lower Ptumuru layer 3

The only non-root chalice with Rom in it. If I was farming Radial Nourishiings in an FRC I would have said so.
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Anyone care to do a run with me through Cainhurst?

Ringing at the first lamp, pw is RATHALOS

if you join and I'm not moving don't freak out, I'm just busy watching another screen while I wait for people
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>>160297830
I just never co-op for chalice before I killed rom alone but fine be a cunt.
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Ludwig kicked my ass. I also didn't even know there was another lamp by the 2 big guys so I was running all the way from that other one.
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>tfw you fell for the wheel, HMS and claw meme

Strength build is a MISTAKE. The only saving grace is the Wheel Dash memespam.
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Holy moly lads that was fierce! Thank you for the help Alfred and Segalt!
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>>160298026
Always happy to help. If you need help with more of old hunters give us a shout
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>>160298026
It was good fun, lads. Glad to be a part of it
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>>160297851
Cumming for you
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>>160298008
HMS and Wheel are both STR/ARC weapons, Claws are a quality weapon.

If you actually use Str weapons then it's one of the most powerful build's in the game. Whitligig, Beast Cutter, Kirkhammer
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>>160297851
Im ringing but no summon
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Coming to Cainurst on my third playthrough I JUST noticed this:

>The horses that were pulling your carriage are dead on the ground

how far away IS Cainhurst?
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>>160298294
>Kirkhammer
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>>160298094
I might take a run through the Research Hall in a minute, but I have to get past the two church gals first, would you be up for it?
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>>160297610
>>160297848

Is anyone coming?

Twin Shards and shitty 7% Nourishing gems await!
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>>160298393

You do know the little house you fight the Witches in is the basement of Cainhurst right?
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Hey, our general is finally as desolate and depressing as the game itself!
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>>160298393
It's not. The horses were magic.

>>160298495
That's just fucking factually wrong. But you CAN see the "Witch's Abode" from Cainhurst, and it's really quite far away.
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>>160298495
> You do know the little house you fight the Witches in is the basement of Cainhurst right?

Uh....
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>>160298410
Count me in. ill be ringing in the hallway in a min
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God damn it alfred wtf was that?
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>>160298141
>>160298359
You coming back?
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>>160298647
Bless you, my friend

The Church guy and gunner are still here
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Is Boom Hammer a meme or does it actually do damage? I only have so many chunks to waste before I start farming FRC
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>>160298764
He smashed and pounded and grounded
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>>160298767
I'm kain The Beast
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>>160298424

Give it a shot a few more times. I will join later if you still havent killed her after I take a shit and shower.
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>>160297589
I've never gone korean on gems before, I'm guessing you mean get all BLT gems?

>>160297628
I said that I followed a very old version of that image that was used as the OP and posted inthread back when the dude made it and was posting his picture all the time. He was a chill guy and I'll miss him.

As I said in my reply in the last thread (sorry), I'm looking for nonconventional arcane weapons so more of what make s a good or bad arcane weapon.

I assumed that any weapon you could get the gems slots for (uncanny/etc) could be an arcane weapon but I think someone corrected me on that a long time ago.

>>160297904
Someone will always be an ass about something.

>>160297810
So if I get you, you're saying that most weapons are either Phys/BLT or Phys/arc and any of the latter can be good with arc.

>>160298405
What's so bad about Kirkhammer? I've loved it since launch. That feeling of smashing a boss's face in man.
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>>160298803
It does big damage on str builds with blunt gems, but it's very awkward to use.
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>>160298954
The Kirkhammer isn't "bad," it's just inferior to Ludwig's in nearly every way.
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>>160298764
Said id give anon a hand at research hall then ill be back for logarius if you need
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>>160298954
>I'm guessing you mean get all BLT gems?
No no no. Just regular ol' 27% Physicals. This video is me. I did this with something like 25 BLT and 25 SKL at BL80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBbfiB0JSeI

It's probably insane with BLT gems, but then you're stuck with nothing but a big twohanded gun. The spear functionality is good.
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>>160299104
>using that stupid burned hunter set with the stupid collars that literally clips through every hair style

Do I even wanna watch the rest of this?
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>>160298954
>and any of the latter can be good with arc
Nope, only the ones I mentioned.
Blade of Mercy, Amygdalan Arm and Burial Blade have innate arcane scaling, but it's so low that even appropriate gems can't make it good. The fact that they're split damage also means that you can't convert them entirely.
So, weapons to use:
Weapons that don't have split damage at all (like Threaded Cane, or Church Pick)
Wheel
Moonlight
Parasite
Tonitrus
Flame Sprayer and Rosmarinus

Weapons that you should avoid like plague:
Blade of Mercy
Burial Blade
Amy Arm
Boom Hammer
Any blt/half gun weapon
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when you guys co op, do you use mic/party chat or just play?
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>>160299197
>not liking the burned hunter set

Do you want to fucking fight m8
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>>160299267

Why would you voice chat?
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>>160299197
He's blad and it doesn't clip with Tomb Prospector. How the fuck else am I supposed to dress my Powder Keg?

And yes you want to watch it. It's god tier RNG on Ebrietas' behavior like you wouldn't believe and there's even a tricky moment when I barely escape harm and manage a charged R2 that triggers a visceral.
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>he just watched as I was eaten alive by a gargoyle

You truly are a beast.
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>>160299302

lots of people do it? its nice to talk to someone while co op. idk. it just seems bloodborne is unique in that no one chats.
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>>160297851
Sorry Rathalos Gargolye cant be killed while he grabs you I'd like to help more but gotta go to the gym before it gets too late.
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>>160299427
>it just seems bloodborne is unique

Have you played any Souls game or gamed before the year 2001?
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>>160299427
Bloodborne doesn't have in-game chat.

>>160299474
Dark Souls games have in-game chat.
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>>160299427
Kills the mood, imo. Bloodborne is all about atmosphere, it's hard to get immersed when some fat nerd is talking into your ear the whole time
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>>160299427
Can you even talk in BB without using 3rd party party software?
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>All these noob posts

I don't how to feel about this.
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>>160299516
You can still voice chat with people in Bloodborne by making a group on PSN.
They often add me to the chat when they summon me, they're either chinese or americans.
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>this new generation of kids is all about social networking and voice chat

Time is a cruel mistress
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>>160299648

with the pro and all the new holiday christmas presents and black friday deals, there will be a huge influx on new players. and with the game for so cheap these days along with old hunters going on sale for first time ever in usa, it just amplifies it.
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>>160299648
Every non-shitpost is a good post.
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>>160298970

I cant wait till fucking gems. I need to dick around with something now.

Fuck this I'm upgrading this Uncanny Saw Cleaver then. Fuck you Miyazaki.
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>>160299648
It's the sale.
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>>160299748
This

You can find actual newbies in co-op and pvp now.

>tfw wrecking people at Cainhurst on my Chikage guy
LEAVE MY QUEEN ALONE. FILTHY EXECUTIONERS.
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is there any physical version that includes the dlc and the latest patch??
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How much endurance should I have to use the boom hammer effectively?
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>>160299821
VILEBLOOD SCUM
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>>160299946
20 or less
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>>160299798
Most of these noob posts probably qualify as shitposts.
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>>160299043
Yeah but I've always had a thing against huge swords in souls games.

Back when DeS was new I saw some pretty revealing shit that you can't stop seeing later on throughout the series so now whenever I see someone who mains Ludwig's or any fuckhuge sword I look at them like they're carrying the Drake sword.

>>160299104
Writing it down as we speak. Holy fuck that fight is fucking awesome. You should have set it to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMxDASE7yIE

>>160299223
Ok, so I'm guessing Kirkhammer and claws fall in ok weapons but stake driver is a no?

Thanks for helping a tard.

>>160299267
I used to help people run the chalices if they were too spoopy for them, or they were just bored of running alone, and when we did that while party chatting since it could take a long time sometimes.

>>160299679
Truly. I have kids almost as old as some of them who are shit talking me in other games. Even the ones who are productive or polite it's hard to explain that after taking care of your kids all day you just don't feel like playing with a bunch of kids.

I need to talk to an adult god damnit.
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>tfw ganked by 10 screaming women in Cainhurst
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>>160299980
how low would you go? I'm trying to min max this while min maxing my effort because otherwise I get too autistic.
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What did she mean by this?
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>>160300054
>I need to talk to an adult god damnit.
>has petty prejudices against something as trivial as weapon choices
Nigga you still need to grow up.
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>>160300225
It depends. What BL do you want to stop at?
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>>160300074
Ill give you a hand once I'm done here
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>>160300404
whats the meta? like 90? seems appropriate.
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>>160300238
Hunters collect Blood Echos by revering their fallen.

That your a Hunter implies that you have good blood; better for her to use to embolden her sickly spirit.

Though why that matters to her considering that she can no longer dream is anyone's guess.

Also
>attacking best character
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>>160300487
It used to be 98, but no one stops there anymore.
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>>160300054
>Ok, so I'm guessing Kirkhammer and claws fall in ok weapons but stake driver is a no?
Kirkhammer is a yes, Stake Driver is also a yes since its damage is purely physical.
Beast Claw can be an arcane weapon, but beasthood only affects physical attacks, so it will be pretty shit with elemental gems.

>>160300487
The meta for /bbg/ is 90-117, but 98 is the preferred level.
Outside of /bbg/ most people go 120, some even 150.
If you want to stop at 98 or lower 15 end is enough with end runes.
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>>160300487

Do not stop at 98, it's a meme.

Go anywhere between 108~120 if you'd like. But I recommend stopping at 117.
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>>160300673
>>160300656
lol, i'd love to see how everyone landed on specifically 98. If I'm playing pvp it'd be with you guys, I'm sort of doubtful there are many rando's who play co-op anymore anyway. I did love helping with bosses though.
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>>160299648
>new players

Oh no
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>>160300806
why 117? does it keep you in some kind of bracket for invasions?
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>>160300845
>i'd love to see how everyone landed on specifically 98
It's a strategic level that /bbg/ chose to avoid bl.150 players.
150 is the Reddit number.
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>>160300507
>not experiencing all the possibilities and events

>>160300845

98 avoids 150
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>>160300845
>I'm sort of doubtful there are many rando's who play co-op anymore anyway
Random co-op is very much alive.

>i'd love to see how everyone landed on specifically 98
Part calculated griefing, part mathematical happenstance. Take a builds, give it 50 Vit and 50 in a scaling stat, and it approaches BL98.
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>>160299909
Game of the Year Edition does
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>>160300993
Yeah -- it's the highest BL that can invade 98.
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Ringing for Logarius

pw is RATHALOS
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>>160300845
98 allows you to play with 80s and also cannot be invaded by 120's and can't even invade 150s.

117 allows full connections with 98's while being significantly higher level. But you end up pvping with 150 shitters if you go to Mensis. Also coop options are more limited.
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>>160300656
All of my characters are done leveling before 90
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>>160301176

Wrong. 117 lets you co op with as low as 74.

Level 98 let's you play with 60's, which is whatever I guess if you really want to pug coop at Cainhurst that much.
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>>160300249
Sorry friend, perhaps I wasn't clear. It isn't a prejudice, it's stereotyping.

When I see a dude with a huge shield and spear, I think turtle. When I see a dude with a fuckhuge sword, I think he wants to smash things with a big rock. But the secondary part is I think he may be afraid of combat where you trade blows and dodges, learn enemy moves, etc, so he probably is defensive until an enemy is stuck in recovery, then just smashes his hunk of metal on him and hopes he's dead so the fight is over.

It always seemed like a fear thing because I helped so many people in Tower of Latria and if they couldn't smash the flayers with one hit they died, and often times they died running at them. Dex/agility based players maybe died as much while learning but not as easy since their plan required them to be mobile and expect to dodge blows.

That said, you didn't try to understand what I was saying, you either:
>A: Sought the worst in my post so you could shitpost in reply for no other reason than to post
>B: Are being defensive because you're a claymore/zwei guy to whom I'm not offending

>>160300673
So I'd have to find the appropriate version of those weapons and then gem them.

Sweet. Now I just have to start learning/remembering/memorizing how gems work and fit together.
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>>160301325
Yeah I'm not reading all that.
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>>160301393
Then your opinion probably wasn't all that well thought out to begin with.
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Heeeeyyyy, if you guys are done arguing could you join me for Logarius?
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>>160301325
>Now I just have to start learning/remembering/memorizing how gems work and fit together
Simple, three gems of the same element convert your weapon's damage entirely.
The elements are fire, bolt and arcane, each one is very effective against certain types of enemies.
Nourishing gems are another useful arcane resource since they boost both elemental damage and arcane on weapons with innate arcane. This makes them ideal for Moonlight and Wheel.
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>>160301286
That's kind how I feel too, but ultimately getting 50 in a stat is a pretty big difference maker.

>>160301474
No because you use silly passwords instead of simple three letter ones. I'm sure Segalt is already ringing though.
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screenshot time

I am very fond of this picture. I just wish I had it without all the ui stuff.
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>>160301474
I'll join in a second, gotta boot up
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>>160301556
>because you use silly passwords

They're not silly, they're just longer than three letters. And I have no trouble typing them in!

>>160301643
>just now beat Rom for the first time

heheh okay
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>>160301643
>December 2015

Anon please
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>>160301643
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>DYING
>TO
>THE
>MEMES

I swear I'll do better Alfred
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>>160301825
Im just helping with logarius ill be on after
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>>160301958
Coolio I'm gonna get a quick snack
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>>160301779
Did that ever happen again, or was it only once?
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>>160302146
Just that one time.
Here's another spooky screenshot.
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Remember when Hand Lantern was a thing?
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Genuinely curious

http://www.strawpoll.me/11662165
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>>160302278
Do you have the glyph for that? I hate giant, creepy holes.
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>>160301549
I know but I forget which gems do what and what gem shapes can be what element.

Say I wanted 1x Kirkhammer for each element. Which one would be best for what?
>pic

>>160301703
Check the date on the screenshot. It's Dec16th 2015.
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>>160301117
thats the red one that only came out in europe right? damn
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>>160301735

I didn't buy it until black friday for like $15 and then didn't play it until I was on winter break from uni.

working through old hunters now since it finally went on sale. gaming for me is me just buying whatever is cheap and good. I will rarely ever get things on release since I know I have other games I bought for cheap that I can play and that I know if I just wait a year it will be a lot cheaper.

like this month for example. I want to play ff15, but I will just wait it out since god hand went on sale for like $3 and so did jak collection for like $5.
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>>160302383
Sorry, not anymore.
That giant hole was in a boss room too, I fought Celestial Emissary here.
Another anon found a similar room in Pthumeru and tried to throw Pthumerian Descendant in the hole, but turns out it's surrounded by an invisible wall for bosses.

Here's an interesting creature I found in the dungeons. Spelunking is fun.
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is there any performance upgrade on this game on ps4 pro?
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>>160302367

I decided to go for plat so I am probably sitting around 60-80ish hours since I did that.

Now I am wondering who here has the plat? do most people? you should do a poll on that too.
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>>160302460
It depends on your gems, but Lost is generally the recommended option for weapons with elemental gems.
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How bad is it downscaling your health Alfred?
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>>160303086
Pretty bad Its at like 700 or so. Get almost oneshot by logarius
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>>160302812

http://www.strawpoll.me/11662230
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>>160303312
Yes, and I was barely trying to get it.
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>>160303286
I have 700 health and he doesn't quite one-shot me
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>>160303432
i probably gotta git gud. ill give a couple more tries with you.
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Ready for the memes when you are, Alfred, but take your time.
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>>160303529
You didn't go for backstabs as much as you could've, but he was kinda flying all over the damn place near the end there.
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>>160303585
Lets plot a course for the Memes. I am ready
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Good place to farm for levels? Just got to the Yahar'gul Church, and everything's fuckin me up. Currently level 62, and people recommend being lvl 70-80 at this point
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>>160304178
Nightmare Lecture Building
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>>160304178
Executioners at Hemwick drop close to 10k a run with moon runes or the Lecture Hall which drops around 15k
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>>160304040
Aye my internet isn't the best, so that didn't help me there,
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What bosses can be backstab chained?

Are the Witches of Hemwick the only bosses slow enough for that to work on?
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If I'm at the end of the game and I've never done chalices but I've sold all my chalice related ritual components (not the actual chalices themselves) do I have to wait until NG+ to get some of the components that will allow me to do all the story chalices and then the other ones? Or can I get enough to start one of the story chalices and then just get ritual components in the chalices themselves?

Alternatively I can beat the game and start a new character and do the chalices with that through the game properly (right now I'm pretty much doing just a first run through quality build, not sure how good it'll be for pvp or co-op)
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>>160304464
HMPH can be in phase 2
>He begins to split his weapon into two
>Backstab before it happens and visceral
>He dashes once and tries to split it again
>Backstab before it happens and visceral
>Repeat until old cunt is kill

It saves having to deal with the 'ebig bullshit throw my stick through the wall and shred your health move'
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HOO BOY thank you, Alfred! Those fucking meteors took three years off my life there.
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>>160304514
you need exactly 1 blood ritual (1) for the first chalice, if you cant buy that at the bath shop then yes, you would need to
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>>160304742
That was clenching at the end of it there. I almost got killed by the meteor too. You up for Maria?
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>tfw cutting down groups in Cainhurst with my Chikage on my "Cainhurst Noble" theme build

This is the best. This new player surge has been fucking great for invasions. Even just with decent Cursed Hamlet Droplets I'm dropping niggas left and right.

I should probably rush chalices and turn this up to the next level. I want to unzip entire groups and kill them all with one glorious stroke.
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>>160302664
I would pilot it
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>>160304854
Yeah, sure! Let me go activate her ass
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>>160305634
Ringing now.
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h-hey can you guys backtrack for a bit after Maria?

I'm gonna need help with the pony man
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>>160305220
its a shame chainhust is a aptional area and the traffic is not that high for BL's >100, ive never invaded in there
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>>160306298
I'm at 75.

You gotta have some low level builds for invasions.
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>>160306284
I'm not one of them, but I can help you with Ludwig real quick. Got a pass?
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>>160306369
yep, im too lazy for it, and too shit at punishing sippys
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>>160306375
>real quick

I'm still running through the area and picking up weapons, shards, and other loot.
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>>160306482
My man, it'll be quick enough. Don't worry. Give me a pass and I'll ring wherever. Ludwig is my favorite, I can take some time.
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BOY I ONLY SURVIVED BECAUSE I GOT A SLIVER OF HEALTH FROM RALLY

Alfred, you are a bro and a cool guy, thank you for helping out so much tonight!
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>>160306554
pw is bbg, and I'm ringing at the first lamp.

Well, I'm going to be running to unlock the shortcut and then I'll be back at the first lamp ringing.
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>>160306783
On my way.
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>>160306562
That was some tense shit.
Unfortunately i can't help you further as I'm heading for the night. Good luck with the rest of the dlc. I'm always happy to do co - op mate.
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>Bagmen have a grab attack
Fucking what
Six playthroughs and I only just found this out for myself
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>>160306904
No worries, my man, your help was very much appreciated.
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Even after all this time and dissection of the game, there is still so much more to discover. If any game ever deserved an expansion/DLC, it's BB. It seems like every time I pick it up, I form more questions. I guess it's good that the lore is so open ended.
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>>160306783
Oof. Let myself get gunned down. Try to run for the shortcut. I'll be right back.
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>>160306783
Do you want a third?
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I just wanna get the boomhammer and then we can run straight for the boss
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>>160307280
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>>160307679
still ringing, join if you can
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>>160307859
I remember when this was initially posted, though I am not familiar with the source material. Miyazaki had a lot of inspiration for this game.

When Moon Presence embraces you, it is to give you a hug and accept you as its surrogate. You can only reject it by having consumed three thirds umbilical cords.
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>>160308309
Gamera.

He's basically like Godzilla, except he's a huge turtle with tusks who can fly and shoot fireballs/breathe fire.

Strongly recommended for Kaiju lovers.
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>>160307869
Go get the Nightmare Church lamp
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>>160308309
The movie is called Gamera 3: Awakening of Iris.
The monster you see in the screenshots tried to embrace the girl in order to assimilate her and make her part of its body and mind. When the girl is in the monsters embrace she has nightmares and hallucinations. It has so much in common with MP.
I totally expect Miyazaki to reference Shin Godzilla in his future games.
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>>160308654
that is where I am ringing
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Anyone wanna take a walk with me through the forbidden woods?
Pass is 'bbg' and ill be at first lamp
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What the fuck. You fuckwads lied to me and said the DLC is good and told me to buy it when it was on sale for $8. It's just fucking reskinned areas with new enemies. Fuck you, fuck you guys so much, I could have spent that $8 somewhere better.
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>>160309113
Ring-a-ding-ding.
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>>160309189
>reskinned areas

Confirmed not not being able to get past Ludwig
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>>160309338
I haven't tried to go any farther because it's just a reskinned area, are you telling me there are actually new areas that aren't shit after Ludwig, because if that's the case, I'll stick with it.
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>>160309189
Sorry to hear that you didn't like it, anon.
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>>160309317
>>160309317
I'm not trying to die, I swear!
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>>160308932
>>160308436
Awesome, I will definitely look this up. I've broken the lore of the game down to the point that I need to look further into source material to get more. Other than art, most of my interests do not align with the rest of his inspirations though.

Does Iris (presumably being a character in the material and a part of the eye) have any significance to eyes referenced in BB?
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>>160309467
stick with it. not him but after you beat ludwig you get some pretty neat environments, especially if you're into the lore
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>>160309467
>>160309189
please stop being a shit, desu
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>>160309601
>three rapid backsteps canceled into a short jump
He's playing mind games now.
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>>160309673
>Does Iris (presumably being a character in the material and a part of the eye) have any significance to eyes referenced in BB?
No, but it has significance to dreams and alien dimensions.
The antagonist of the second movie in the trilogy, Legion, is also perfect Great One material.
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>>160309176
Anyone? Its quite spooky in these woods.
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>>160309176
Me
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>>160310002
You are what they should be scared of.

>>160309914
This reminds me of FFIX. I will check this out.

It's too bad that we'll likely never get any more BB content. There is so much left to explore and learn.
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So I decided to make a new character a few days ago, been playing on and off. Got to the first chalice earlier today.
Coming to the third floor, I found this mob hiding in the same spot it always is. Instead of killing it straight away, I decided to leave it. Few seconds later, I heard the soft pattering of footsteps, followed by the equally soft sound of something like chimes.
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>>160308309
>>160308436
>>160309914
Milkweed is Matango mode.
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>>160310284
If you piss them off they can throw very powerful magic at you.
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>>160310284
I left it to it's own devices, and it started roaming about, eventually coming to a stop there, staring at a wall. I'm not sure what to make of it.
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>>160310420
I have a screenshot lying around of the charm they carry around the wrist. I don't know if there's any meaning.
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You died during a cutscene?

Also I'm officially OUT of silver bullets.
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>>160310287
Fuck, that movie is rare.
It does look like Milkweed though.
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>>160310035
lol fuck forgot about the canon sorry i have nott been in the woods for a while
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>>160310392
It still turns to face me if I approach it, but otherwise it stands there, staring at that wall. This game continues to surprise me.

>>160310392
Really? Damn, good thing I'm not messing with it this time.

>>160310478
You mean this one? I wanna say it bares some resemblance a real-world symbol of some kind, most likely related to hospitals, but I may be wrong.
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>>160310635
They're super easy to kill though and drop like 5 vials or bullets, they're basically walking vending machines.
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>>160310606
Im returning to the lamp, we can do the second part of the woods
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>>160310635
Oops, I forgot that screenshots are darker than the in-game visuals.
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>>160310635
Chalice dungeons are great if that sort of shit appeals to you.

I lost the fucking glyph, but I found a unique enemy in there once. It was one of these guys except without a box. And he had no behavior beyond running at full speed to try to murder me, and no aggro radius either.
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is this racist?
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Favorite weapon?

Most used weapon?
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>>160310854
>Favorite weapon?
Too many to decide. I love Wheel, Bloodletter, Church Pick and Reiterpallasch.

>Most used weapon?
Wheel and Saw Spear, which is my go-to weapon for the beginning of the game.
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>>160310786
Speaking of unique enemies, I've always found it odd that this particular enemy has only ever spawned in the third layer of the Pthumeru Labyrinth. In all my hours playing, I don't recall ever seeing it in another labyrinth.
I've also never seen those bizarre giant worm things that that apparently have a low chance of spawning in tunnels in Chalice Dungeons, too.
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>>160310392
Pilgrim is harmless, stop being a shit
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I'm gonna have to give Ludwig a break.

There's no way I can beat him with my health/defense this low, even with a full squad.

Sorry guys...
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>>160310854
>Favorite weapon?
Stake Driver
>Most used weapon?
Saw Spear

Saw Spear is too strong, the theoretical best weapon in the game. It also has the best moveset and cost so little stamina that you can shred enemies.
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>>160310775
Similar to the staff of Hermes used as the symbol for Medicine. It almost looks like two slugs rather than snakes because of the eye stalks/antennae though, which would make sense considering the status of slugs as familiars in game lore.
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>>160310775
It's a stylized sword of hermes with a saw hunter badge hanging a little lower.

That said, I honestly want to say it's the devs way of telling you what this guy said:
>>160310719

They're like a more gruesome version of that megaman mainstay of a friendly thing that just gives health or enemy that just gives health/energy.

>>160310854
Fav: Beast Claws
Most Used: Stake Driver (beast claws are too big a pain to get to use all the time, wish there was an early game method)
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>>160310420
Notice that it actually takes damage at one point, only a little, and I don't know what from
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>>160311049
All good, later anon.
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>>160310854
Beast Claw
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>>160311042
Try to attack it without killing it and see what happens.
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>>160310719
>>160311113
If that's all they're for, why don't they run away when you find them like Crystal Lizards or the horrible amalgam creatures that give blood shards?
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>>160310854
>Favourite weapon

Too many to decide. I suppose I'm very fond of the Amy Arm.

>Most used

Probably Whirli or Church Pick.
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>>160311065
>>160311113
Ah, that's what it is. I had a faint idea, I just couldn't quite put my finger on it.

>>160311126
Oh shit, you're right. I checked just now and it's actually missing a small chunk of HP. I don't recall ever seeing any damage numbers come up, either.
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>>160310854
Vanilla beast claw
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>>160311218
So darkbeasts were a sort of species or race of beasts. Where did they come from? Most beasts are human enough in nature that it's not hard to imagine that they came from a human that was overcome by the scourge of beasts. Darkbeasts are an exception as their proportions are much too large to be even Pthumerian in origin.

Then considering the only named darkbeast, Paarl. What was it doing in the cemetery between Old Yharnam and Yahar'gul? Particularly with the door locked from the *inside*?
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>>160310854
>Favourite Weapon
BoM

>Most used weapon
BoM
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>>160310967
>>160311059
>>160311113
>>160311274

>people's most used isn't their favorite
disgusting
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>>160311551
I can't use it for every build.
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>>160311551
Amy Arm is fun, but it's damage is verging on poor.

The Whirli and Pick are problem solvers, I use them for fighting harder bosses and/or in co-op where we're trying to clear and area quick or beat a boss fast. Were the Amy Arm's damage less lacking, or it could be buffed, then it would take both places. But it's a 'for fun' weapon.

Honestly, I can't even give a straight answer for either, they are rough estimates.
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>>160311783
>fun

more like gross and weird, I hope I never see that thing in pvp
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>>160312162
But that's part of the fun. 70% of it in fact.
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>>160311065
>staff of Hermes
Actually, the symbol for Medicine is the Rod os Asclepius, which only has one snake.

The Staff or Hermes, or Caduceus, is a symbol of commerce.

And now, back to Bloodborne.
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Surprised to read so many people are down on the Amygdalan Arm. It's my personal favorite. I love grotesque/aberrant stuff, and wielding the arm makes me feel like a true monster.

Plus, at 50 strength it doesn't seem too shabby.
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>>160311447
Paarl was Djura's ally, look at his hunter badge
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Me and a friend are trying to do a bloodtinge build. Since this is the second time I've played the game (first was a str build). We're planning on sticking with Rifle Spear, Chikage, and Evalyn. Is there something we need to be mindful of?
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>>160311551
To be honest, it's a close tie between Stake Driver and Beast Claws.

If I didn't have to complete so much to get to the beast claws I'd probably use them 51% of the time.
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>>160313189
Yes, drop the Rifle Spear and pick up the Bloodletter
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>>160313257
Will do later on
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>>160312232
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>>160312337
In the US (where I practice) the Staff of Hermes is commonly used to represent medicine. Although I am in a for-profit healthcare system, so take from that what you will.
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How many playthroughs do you guys have? I have about 5. Fact is I try to go back and play DeS/DaS, or finish DaS 2 & 3 but they all make me wish I was playing BB.

Fuck why is it so much better. No shields ?
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Rate my Hunter
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>>160313859
>White hair
>Red eyes

Send it back to DeviantArt and try again.
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>>160313853
It feels the most complete out of all the games in the series, IMO. Dark Souls 1-3 suffer from issues that smack of a rushed release, and Demon Souls is kind of a messy experience. There isn't an area in Bloodborne that doesn't feel the way it was intended. Plus, the story and setting are a lot more focused.
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>>160313859
can't beat Ludwig/10
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>>160314118
I find the weapons a lot more enjoyable and fun, even if some of them are meh in terms of damage. Dark2, I felt, was the only thing close as it had a ton of weapons and each of them were pretty viable
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>>160314065
Once I see a video of you beating Ludwig at level 35 you can shit-talk. Until then, shut your mouth.
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>>160313853
I think I've done about 8 playthroughs including the one I've just started and probably won't touch for a while and my first one which I deleted. Besides those two, they've all gone through CD's as well.
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What do you guys do when you're kind of bored of doing playthroughs
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>>160314591
goes to
>>160314279

stupid modern 4chan and not being able to delete posts with any kind of speed (if at all)
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>>160314642
I play Titanfall 2 in between playthroughs.
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>>160314642
i'm kind of looking forward to picking up Killing Floor 2 when it comes out Friday, so I'd be doing that in between playthroughs
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why does it need to be such a massive trek from the nearest lamp to every boss in the main game?
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anyone want to help me with orphan of kos? bl80, pw bbg, ringing at fog
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>>160315117
PC to console ports never really do well. How can you look forward to a lesser version of the already perfect one on steam?
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in what situation would anyone use a saw cleaver over the saw spear?
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>>160315826
When they're on their way from Central Yharnam to the aqueducts to pick up the Saw Spear.
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>>160313735
Since it was adopted in the US, makes plenty of sense Anon. See this is you'd like:
http://annals.org/aim/article/716360/symbol-modern-medicine-why-one-snake-more-than-two
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>>160315826
If you've got more strength than skill, cleaver will do more damage
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>>160315720
I'm in, will ring shortly
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>>160315721
DOOM
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>>160316148
thanks, I'll be waiting
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>>160315826
Because when it's been a month or more since I played last, I start a character who is the cover art hunter.

Usually about 50% through I choose to change fashion, weapons, etc.
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>>160315721
I dont have a computer capable of newer games
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Can someone please help with defiled Amygdala?
Password is bbg
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>>160316359
sure omw
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>>160316359
havent really done coop with dungeons before, but i just put on the password and i search for coop at the first tombstone, right?
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Do I have to get all the weapons in one single playthrough for the trophy ?
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>>160316663
You need to get them all on one character, but not on the same playthrough.
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>>160311447
Paarl is guarding Old Yharnam. Paarl is the final ally of Djura we never saw in-game.

He's probably the reason that Djura decided to save the beasts.
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>>160316183
Sorry about that, I don't know why I'm getting slapped this hard.
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fuck help again plz he just started spamming jump non stop
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>>160316932
its fine lol, I died right after you did both times
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>>160316956
np ringang
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>>160317037
I goofd
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>>160317027
holy shit haha he 1 shotted me mb
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>>160317271
is aite, I'm studying while im ringin anyways so i dont mind!
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anyone has that chicago BT build ? The weaboo one
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>>160317402
25skill 50 bt 3x 50% Blood ATK up gems
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>>160317293
That lightning AOE is bonkers.
It's also a free backstab if you're lucky
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>>160317293
hold up let me go buy some more vials then ill ring again
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>>160317294
Why is it so hard man
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>>160317561
we can do it! I think i will try to focus on attack its head instead of the arms, go for some viscerals
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>>160317618
Whatcha fighting?
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>>160317541
jesus my hands are sweaty

if anyone wants to join us im still ringing at orphan fog
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Anyone wanna go through level 4 Lower Pthumeru and BLB? I finally just beat that cunt of a bossfight Rom
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>>160317803
FUCK that was dumb of me mb again
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>>160317716
Cursed amy could use a hand password is bbg
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>>160317716
Im helping defiled amy anon
it's giving us a spanking, but we'll get him we're getting close!
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what the FUCK is the strategy for the brainhead monsters?
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>>160317876
>local squid bullies beach-going hunters
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>>160318168
someone please hold me this is ridicolous
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>>160317980
NNNNNOOOOO how did we all die so close
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>>160317979
fuuuuuck that collateral jump
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>>160318128
Stand behind a corner and hurl Arcane at them, ready a sedative and wail on them, parry their grab, equip a rune that boosts Frenzy resist
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>>160318275
we'll get it this time im sure, i know how to wear it down consistently now if I stay on his right side

>>160318128
thi
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>>160318370
>>160318128
whoops meant to say
this works better on skill builds, but I parry their grab move and time the visceral so that the frenzy bursts during the visceral animation so i dont take damage
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>>160318168
wtf he did a one shot as his first attack
those screams are giving me nightmares
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>>160318543
Don't forget that there are opportunity attacks in this series, so sometimes a hard blow otherwise becomes a one hit because of WHEN you are hit.
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>>160318275
are we still going? im still ringing rn
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Sorry Joffery my internet went off Hey everyone I'm having another try at cursed amy the password is bbg if anyone can please help
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>>160317980
>>160317979
>>160317876
>>160317803
Alright guys, I'm leaving work now. When I get home I'll jump on ASAP.
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>>160318807
>>160318808
quick lets beat him before he gets home!
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>>160318876
fuckkkk I almost got him he had 3 or 4 hits left then I died. ringing again
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>>160318876
I'm ringing
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>>160318949
Odd im not getting anyone
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>>160319061
let's wait for other anon first?
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>>160319105
im ringing at orphan rn. just need to repair weapon
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>>160319149
nah man we're the defiled amy anons, orphan's oover there
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>>160319105
alright im there again fuck lets wait\
>>160319149
We are doing cursed amy
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>>160319224
AAHHHH
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>>160319195
Thanks man that was easily the most intense battle ive had in bb yet thanks for sticking with me
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FRENZY RAPIDLY RISING

how do people solo this boss with no damage taken at ng+6
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i've played souls for a long time but i'm new to bb

are there any real left-hand options for pure strength builds?
the cannons and the fist seem pretty bad and i don't want to use the shield on this run
maybe the gatling gun?

should I just stick with the blunderbuss?
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>>160319740
cheers!
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>>160319760
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>>160319740
can one of you come help at orphan please
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>>160319883
sure omw
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>>160319883
wait what pass
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>>160319974
bbg
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>>160319974
RATHALOS
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need help with Celestial Emissary, password is bbg
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ive died more to the fucking elevator down from mensis middle loft than ive died to any boss
how do i consinstantly go into that dumb window
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>>160320058
You mean trying to get to the blood rock?

I like to make the camera completely level with my character so I'm looking dead on instead of at an angle for that roll, makes it a lot easier to notice when you're gonna hit the arch, remember to roll just a little later than you think you should. If you're still having trouble it's a bit easier if you're going up instead of down.
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thanks guys, we got him

and thanks to that anon who stuck it out with me for over an hour

what an experience
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>>160319993
alright im ring for you now
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>>160320242
Bootiful, I'm glad to have helped
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>parry a enemy
>hear parry sound
>still get grabbed
nice nice very good game
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>>160319760
Cannon and Gatling Gun are okay, Blunderbuss isn't a Strength weapon but it has a heavy feel. Ludwig's Rifle too but it's usually shitters who can't parry who use it. No one uses shields moderately in this game, but Wooden is good for blocking bullets. Fist sucks.

If this is your first playthrough it's best to leave and play it blind without spoiling yourself.
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>>160319993
are you still ringing?
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>>160320468
no fuck off
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>>160320468
no, we got him

>>160320308
haha we got 1-shotted like what, at least 3 times each?

time to fight gehrman and finish off the game, then I'm going to start a new character and run through it again trying to solo the bosses instead of summoning. Will probably do the chalice dungeons too. What kind of build should I do for a second playthrough if my first one was a strength-biased quality?
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>>160320381
i mentioned the blunderbuss because it seems to be a pretty safe weapon to parry with
the cannon put me off because of the high bullet cost but i'll give it a shot
>fist sucks
yeah, i figured. that's unfortunate

>If this is your first playthrough it's best to leave and play it blind without spoiling yourself.
i hate this meme
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>he doesn't spend all his inside on bolt/fire paper and beast blood pellets
laughing_anime_school_girl.avi
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>>160320560
Bloodtinge-
MV:40+/10+/14/15/50/6. 28 Strength for Church Cannon and Gatling Gun with some damage on the Bloodletter untricked. Or 25 Skill for mediocre damage on Chikage and Bowblade untricked plus extra visceral damage but you could just unzip after parrying for more damage so 15 Skill is fine.

Arcane-
CF:40+/12+/10/9/5/50+. Hunter Tools scale well past 50 so 70-90-99 Arcane is common for Pure Arcane builds. Or you could do a Str/Arc hybrid for the HMS, Wheel, Boomhammer and Tonitrus with 25/12+ Str/Skl and Nourishing gems.
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>>160320848
>If this is your first playthrough it's best to leave and play it blind without spoiling yourself.
>i hate this meme

just curious, why? The game got spoiled for me by one of my friends, and I honestly wish I had managed to get through to the end blind instead of knowing what kind of cosmic shitstorm was going to unfold. Still one of my favorite games of all time though.
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>>160320891
Thanks, I'll probably end up doing arcane or arcane / strength, something about bloodtinge doesn't seem too fun to me.

How does an arcane build work outside of hunter tools though? Do I just have to get arcane scaling gems and stack them up on whatever weapon I'm using?
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>>160320848
Use Blood Bullets before shooting the Cannon to help cut the bullet cost a bit. Blunderbuss and Hunter Pistol are really all you need for melee builds.

Playing blind first time around is fun, wish I could do it all over again.
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>>160319760
The L2 moves on 2-handed weapons are your friend. Axe, Hammer, Ludwigs, Whirligig all have useful attacks (and even attack strings) mapped to L2 when tricked.

When you are one-handing though it's good to always have a pistol/blunderbuss for easy parrying, and a Cannon can make a great FUCK YOU button for emergencies (upgrades it'll one-shot most basic mobs and even pvpers, or do a huge chunk of boss health if you hit a weak spot), or Gattling Gun for nice chip damage and stagger lock on enemies who have no poise/hyper armour.
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>>160320986
For most weapons to convert to Fire/Bolt/Arcane you'll want 2 +65 Cold Abyssals and an elemental gem. Early game a Fire Waning after BSB and 2 Pthumeru Hotdog Radials (run the first chalice twice) on a Saw Spear will get you through most of the game. At the end of the DLC you'll have access to 20.3% Bolt gems from the Lightning Wizards.

Ludwig Blade and Kos Parasite only need one Cold Abyssal. Arcane weapons will benefit from having Radial, Radial, Triangle while Fire/Bolt should be Lost versions (Radial, Triangle, Waning). Isz Watchers drop 27.2% fire/bolt/arcane Triangles, Fire/Bolt Waning Abyssals from Hotdog/Abhorrent. There's a guide in the OP that can help before getting FRC gems.
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>>160321143
Is Chikage's L2 any good? From all I can see it's a simple thrust, not much to it.
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>>160320906
>>160321008
i played demon's souls blind and decided against doing so for the rest of the games
i have more fun if i know ahead of time how the stats work and where/when i'm going to get a weapon i want to use
it doesn't take away from the thrill of exploring the areas or fighting the bosses for the first time

i'm also spoiled on the story, which is a shame, yeah
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>>160320848
>i hate this meme
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>>160321248
The first L2 doesn't do much but a followup L2 shreds whatever gets in its way
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>>160321249
oh, in that sense yeah, I also look up the stats and look up a build or general outline to aim for in my first playthrough of soulsborne games. I try not to look up the story or bosses and use one of the starting weapons with a quality build to get through it the first time around. If I find something better, I'll use it, if not then w/e, I look shit up after I beat the game. I guess it comes down to however you enjoy the game the most since you're the one who paid hard earned money for it haha

>>160321218
Shit, sounds good, thanks. Going to finish the game tomorrow then and roll up an arcane character.
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50str 25 skill
what weapon should i use
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>>160321482
beast cutter
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>>160321482
Every Strength/Quality/Skill weapon with Heavy Abyssal gems.
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>>160321482
pizza cutter
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>>160321553
no that weapon sucks
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>>160321614
>what weapon should i use?

>nah lol keep suggesting stuff till you say the thing i had in mind
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>>160321482
Cleaver
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>>160321482
You know the answer already.
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>>160321482
>>160321553
>>160321613
Pizza Beast
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>make new character
>spend 6 hours doing chalice dungeons immediately after bsb
>get great fucking gems
>have 400~ AR at level 20
>play game as normal and get gems from mensis

i really wonder if the chalice shit was worth my time, i could have just rushed straight to mensis
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>>160321986
What gems for steak tho ?
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Can I only get the top-tier Blood Rapture rune from the crow of cainhurst, or can I possibly find it in a CD?
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>>160321482
pizza
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>>160322193
50/25 wants a heavy abyssal and two 27's. It's an easy grind for a delightfully fun weapon.

If you do a run with it, challenge yourself and finish off every boss with a rocket punch. Maybe even several.
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>>160322184
You could've just stopped at Lower Pthumeru for Lumpy gems (20.6%) and gone through the whole DLC with them for 22.3% droplets before Shadows. Should take less than 6 hours to get the gems and they help BL4 runs a lot.
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>>160322516
Where is this 22.3% droplet in DLC?
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>>160322451
I have a 50/25 character with FRC accessible but that still need to grind. I will do that thanks
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>>160322598
Before Orphan the two Winter Lanterns drop em.
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>>160322665
Dayumn, hmmm. Debating about making a new dude just to grab that shit. Would also have access to a blood rock too.
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>>160322730
If you haven't done a Strength, Quality, Skill, or Bloodtinge character yet go for it. Or make a Twink with these gems. Maybe a BL4 run if you haven't already.
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>>160320381
>>160320848
>not parrying exclusively with the Auger of Ebrietas
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>>160323005
I've done just about everything except for an arcane character. I just really enjoy rushing and getting good weapon/upgrade/gems in these games. I never took into account the Winter Lanterns near Kos, my goal is to at least get a +10 and gemmed out before Shadows and before 2 hours if RNG lets me.
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Any suggestions for a headpiece to pair with the doll clothes?
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>>160323416
Knight ponytail, Black Hood.
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Does anyone know a chalice glyph Depth 1-3 (that isn't Rotted Offering) that contains some Inflicted Organs? I hate farming the Greatsword Chalice Knight in Lower Pthumuru, the drop rate is atrocious.

>>160322184
Mensis gems are obsolete by Depth 3 Chalice's, which can be done right after BSB without progressing any further in the main game.
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>>160323321
You could still do it with an Arcane character I suppose, whenever you're up against enemies resistant to fire/bolt/arcane or find BB pellets to be more effective those gems are good to use.
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>>160323416
Bone Ash Mask with Rifle Spear for maximum witch.
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I feel like playing a chikage build was a mistake. is there a point where this is gonna get more fun?
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>>160323789
Some people were born to be katana shitters, others weren't.
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>>160323789
For me, it was as soon as my BLT got to about 30 because it was ok regularly but it was jack the ripper mode vs most shit when tricked. The later game the better, going into chalices even.

I wasn't very happy with it in pvp because it's not great for punishing sippies, and so your only other option IT SEEMS is to unzip at people nonstop.

The more you use a weapon the more you find it's little secrets and goodies, and I never used it in PvP outside a few matches but in those matches I got an immediate bad taste in my mouth. It was either one/two hit the person or waste a shitton of time slowly dying while watching them get crunk on blood.
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>>160323789
Try out the Bloodletter. Chikage is okay but most people don't experiment with its moveset outside of the l1, r1 unzips and r1s.
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>44 VIT and 90 ARC,

or

>40 VIT and 94 ARC
on a BL120?
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>>160324071
go for more vit. If you're at bl120 assume people have 50/50 saw spears
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>>160324071
Won't make much a difference but I'd do 40/90 with some points into Str/Skl for weapon requirements. Or more Vit, 94 Arc looks weird.
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Does Bloodborne have better enemy variety than DaS3?
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Just got to Pthumeru Ihyll and this dungeon is fucking ripping me apart the first boss is just destroying me.I'm losing to him just barely I think the fights before this have worn me down a bit. Any tips for this dungeon ?
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>>160324246
Parry HMPH. At 50% you could chain-backstab him with a fast weapon if you're quick enough.
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>>160323467
Knight's might be nice if I had hair to match the ponytail
Hood is just a no go cause that floating shit just triggers my autism badly
>>160323616
might have to take a look at this, though I need to actually unlock the set first
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>>160324206
I would say yes by far almost. I just fought an alien abomination, ancient horror, Legendary warrior, pyromancer , Ghastly beasts and a beast on fire. That's not counting the regular enemies or story bosses.
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>>160302706
never played it on the regular PS4 but loading screens are fairly short and considering people are complaining about them, I'd say it probably improved on that. I've also not noticed major framedrops throughout my first playthrough.
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>>160324358
My man I'm a strict beast claw user I don't parry or back stab I can only out skill him. it's at 25% that he becomes and issue. I will on the very least try to chain back stab tho.
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>>160324119
Man I hate that ARC builds are basically required to level so high

>>160324137
Honestly there aren't many weapons that tempt me enough to put points into other stats. Between fire spear, bolt cane, and Kos Parasite I'm happy. Maybe if Tonitrus' moveset wasn't so boring.
> 94 Arc looks weird
lol I agree. The 4 points would probably make more difference in VIT anyway
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>>160324469
>Arc builds are required to level high

But my arc build is BL98 and it does just fine.
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>>160324206
Yes. Dark Souls 3 is filled with generic knights and rehashed enemies.
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>>160324469
11 Skill for the Saif is a good investment, makes a better Bolt weapon than the Toni.
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>>160324358
Also does it hurt that I'm only level 68 for this dungeon? I forgot to level up because I felt so comfy at that level. But I'm wondering what level people are normally for this chalice.
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>>160324605
Probably higher or around that level. Since you're using Claws it wouldn't hurt going a bit higher. A lot of players put the dungeons last so it's common to see 80-120+ running through em.
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I'm not too knowledgeable on chalice dungeons, but I have been taking notes and have compiled information from a couple of posters posting here the last couple of days to here are my notes if anyone is interested.

Saw Cleaver+10, +62.9% ATK UP before Shadows: http://pastebin.com/29daLKyP
This one requires DLC.

Uncanny Saw Cleaver+9, 72% ATK UP before Shadows: http://pastebin.com/LbvRJQxR
This one anyone can do and doesn't require any special online glyph, so players like myself (who don't have PS+) can try.

Total time should take 2 - 3 hours on both of them, less if RNG is on your side.
If you know of anyway I can optimize or get better gems without the use of online glyphs or passing shadows let me know.
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>>160324519
I don't doubt it, but it would constantly bother me that ARC wasn't high enough to do at least near max tool damage. Part of me really wants to take it up to 99
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>>160310854
All the skill-based weapons have a soft spot in my heart. Chikage hits a soft spot in my edgelord heart.
I think the Hunter's Axe has the most mileage.
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>>160324779
The 14.9 secondary for the 16.5% Hintertomb gem is flat, not %. Plus if you're already up to DLC Winter Lanterns 3× 22.3% Droplets would beat the other 20.6% gems, drop rate isn't too bad.
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I'm BL 49 right now, having pumped my levels mostly into VIT and then BLT. My END is 11 right now, should I drop a few more levels into that instead of trying to pump my damage further with BLT?
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>come back on my str/skl quality build
>realize I've upgraded the normal cleaver to +10
>mfw I've wasted a rock for a non optimal weapon

It depressed me so much I switched characters again
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>>160324975
Pump Vit and damage stats to desired levels first. Base End is enough with a Stamina Rune, but if you feel that you need more do 15-20.
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>>160324960
Ah, my mistake, and yeah you're right about the droplets. Not sure why I let that slip my mind.
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Which area fills you with the most dread? That place that you absolutely do not want to go back through?
I wish the Upper Cathedral Ward collapsed on itself with these tentacle faced fucks inside.
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>>160324519
What's your stats at 98?
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>>160324975
phampai, endurance is the most useless stat. There's no equip load, and managing your stamina is super easy since dashes require almost 0 of that stuff
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Holding X and moving the controller will perform the gesture assigned to that motion.

It's really quite maddening to accidentally sit down while trying to skip through dialogue.
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>>160324779
>>160324960
>>160325042
Droplets would let you use any weapon too, so you don't have to feel limited to just a saw cleaver.
So after BSB find a weapon you want to use and then continue on your first pastebin as normal, I might try this with something I've yet to try and something I can get early. Maybe BoM from making Eileen fall to her death or something like whirligig or beast cutter.
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Why the FUCK am I not allowed to use Pyromancy?

Shadows of Yharnam can. Pthumerians can. Why the fuck can't I?
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Please tell me the Burial Blade can be a good weapon when converted to fire or lightning and scaling with ARC because that's what I plan to do

(p.s. protips on where to find the sexiest gems pls)
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>>160325059
It could definitely be better, but I built this character with the Wheel in mind back before the DLC was announced. It's served me well, and while it would probably be better to shave points off of end and put them into, say, strength, I'm quite content with being able to throw four R2s in a row.
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>>160325219
Nope, can't be converted and is shit in Arcane builds. Same with BoM and weapons with Bloodtinge. 27.2% Physical gems from Watchers.
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>>160325292
>can't be converted

W H Y though
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>>160324779
+6 Weapon with 20.3%, 20.3%, 16.5% +14.9 flat is possible before Amelia on a Hunters Axe, Threaded Cane, Rifle Spear, Stake Driver, Kirk Hammer, Uncanny Saw Cleaver, Uncanny Saw Spear.

Sadly Ludwigs and Tonitrus have no avalible varients with Triangle slots at Depth 3, and there are no sources of Waning Gems either. Although once I get 2 more Inflicted Organs I'll be able to make a Rotted Dungeon, which has Witchs of Hemwick, who drop Waning gems no matter the dungeon. But I have no idea if they are good.

I'm also still trying to figure out the mystery of the Cursed BLT gem. A shotgun Watcher gave me this in a Depth 2 (obviously not cursed) Dungeon, but I can't get any other shotgun watcher to drop similar gems.
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>>160325237
Not bad. Is the tool damage satisfactory tho?

I have a similar build using HMLS and as much as I love that weapon, it just feels like "just a greatsword", eats stamina, and requires significant investment in other stats to do much damage when I could just use conversion weapons and more tool damage from higher ARC. I've actually grown to enjoy Cane and Parasite more as Arc weapons
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Can Rakuyo be converted to fire?

Church Pick?
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>>160325351
Split damage, plus the Arcane scaling is horrible so don't bother using gems to add Arcane damage unless you're a Twink with Flats, even then physical gems beat it.
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>>160325351
You can slap flat ARC gems onto it to boost its Arcane damage, reaching upwards of 570 AR in my experience. Not *bad* but nothing spectacular. Good for rally and reach though
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>>160325415
Yes for both. Any purely physical weapon can be converted.
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>>160324975
End is based around what you're most comfortable with. Some people here can play comfortably with 8 end, others don't like less than 20. Its all about how much you need to still . Also keep in mind that end runes give a decent boost to the stat.

>>160325351
Burial Blade, BoM and Amy Arm all have built in arcane scaling. Its not noticeable but it being there doesn't let you convert them. Same goes for Reiter, Rifle Spear, Chikage and Bloodletter
Besides, who the fuck would want to dashr1 with a bolted BoM. Totally not me haha

>>160325415
Both can. Church Pick is probably one of the best options for fire conversion.
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>>160325502
How could a level 40 arcane build character get to the Rakuyo?
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>>160325531
Jolly co-operation
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>>160325603
I tried that at level 35 and Ludwig was one shotting me.
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>>160325531
By being really good at the game. And most likely summoning help.

The gems from early Chalice's people are discussing would help get you there.
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>>160325531
By not being shit and gitting gud. Or co-op. What are your stats?
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>>160324779
>>160325379
Is this a wee-bit autistic lads?
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>>160325531
Its literally impossible to beat the streetsharks solo under lvl90 :^)
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>>160325642
Stop getting hit.
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>>160325706
> a wee bit

You don't need to sugar coat it. 30 hours playtime preparing for Amelia is lots autistic. But ever since I accidently got a Cursed 19.8% Radial from the Watcher in lower Ptumuru and posted it here earlier this year I wondered exactly how powerful you could become before Vicar Amelia.

I didn't have time to play for a while so I only started the character a week ago, and it became apparent there is a shitload you can do before Amelia in dungeons and a lot we don't understand about gem effects and drops.

Also: for reasons too dumb to repeat explaining I did it at level 10, which made progress a lot slower than it could have been.
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>>160326012
>for reasons too dumb to repeat explaining I did it at level 10

What was it ? "Video purpose" right ?
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>>160324779
65 min total just to rush through game to mensis and farm droplets

saves you more time and you dont have to wasting 3 hours "preparing for shadows"

>>160326012
shadows and amelia dont require you to prepare
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>>160324593
I do like the saif. I might do that actually and have like 2 weapons for each conversion type
Fire
Spear and Cleaver (Cleaver for hitting Amy and Darkbeast in their stupid suspended heads)

Bolt
Axe and Saif

Arcane
Cane and Parasite

I like Beastcutter too but the D arcane scaling is offputting
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>>160326315
Cold Abyssals will fix your Beast Cutter
>>
Weapons I like:
Stake, Saw

Weapons I do not like
Everything else
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>>160326315
A weapon's Arcane scaling doesn't matter much when there's Cold Abyssals. Plus it's fun to pancake Abhorrent with tricked r2s.
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Ringing at Nightmare Church lamp for Ludwig

password is zzz

you're all invited
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Anyone wanna help out with ludwig? Pass is ludwig1
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anyone for ludwig? pw is dsg
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>>160326459
>>160326482
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>>160326523
Sign down at bonfire. I'm wearing purple though.
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>>160326201
> shadows and amelia dont require you to prepare

Yeah, that's why it's titled "The Overpreparer's Guide to Vicar Amelia", basically everything you can possibly do before Amelia, who is basically the guardian between early-game and late game (you can reach FRC Loran Dungeons before Shadows).
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>>160326532
I'm ringing now m8
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>>160326432
Y-you can pancake Abhorrent?
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>>160326459
Sorry m8, I'll ring again
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>>160326627
What's in FRC Loran Dungeons?
>>160326201
It just gives me something to do, I'm not "preparing for shadows" I'm just seeing how strong I can make myself at that point. Besides, steamrolling the game after that point is more like a reward to me. Spending the hour or two doing that is a lot funner than grinding lecture hall with fire hunter axe for 20 hours.
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>>160325386
The tool damage is respectable. It isn't quite as impressive as 70+ arc tools, but it's definitely serviceable.

As far as the HMS is concerned, I actually love that thing. It feels like one of the most satisfying greatswords in a Souls game to date, and while I wish the moonbeams went even just a little bit further, swinging around lasers at things is some of the most fun I've had in Bloodborne in all 2k+ hours of my time in it.
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>killing Paarl just to befriend Djura
>then backstabbing him
I did it for the pants, baby
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Is the Arcane element super effective against anything? Fire = beasts and Bolt = kin, but what about Arcane? Pthumerians maybe?
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>>160326772
Yup, the 2nd r2 does it. Abhorrent, Darkbeast, and Hotdog are weak to Arcane so I usually use an Arcane Beast Cutter if I already have 1 or 2 fire/bolt serrated weapons. Plus Amy is weak to all elements equally so the BC is good for slamming the head.
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>>160327008
3 bullets pushes him off the ladder, no paarl needed.
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>>160326567
Ringing
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>>160327042
Yeah Pthumerians, some beasts are as weak to Arcane as they are to fire or bolt.
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>>160327087
yeah see, that's never worked for me for some reason
either he dodges out or just doesn't get pushed that far or something, but the only time I've had him die to falling was when he dashed off himself
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>>160327119
i solo'd it
i saw 3 other ludwig posts so i figured i try alone
thanks tho
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>>160327154
Damn, i got him half way before he rekt me
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>>160327042
Yup, Pthumerians are all super weak to Arcane.

Also sneks in Forbidden Woods, and certain types of Beasts, seemingly ones that arnt connected to the Church. Paarl is weaker to Arc than fire, Abhorrent and Bloodletting are equally weak to fire and arcane, but some other Beasts (Cleric, Amelia, Ludwig, Laurence) resist it.
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Should a pure Arcane have 30 or 40 VIT at BL 98?
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>tfw no fast way to get church pick without killing ludwig
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>>160327154
Would you be willing to help me out I'm >>160326482
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>all this shitposting
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>>160327267
CF:40/12/10/11/5/70 at 98.
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>>160327362
Yeah it was either exactly that or 30/80 in VIT/ARC
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>>160327269
That's exactly my predicament.
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>>160327423
40/70 for PvP, 30/80 for PvE. Though the extra Vit would probably benefit you more than extra Hunter Tool damage
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>>160327362
>>160327423
>tfw Saif and starter weapon requirements, VIT, and ARC fit perfectly in a BL 98 build
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>discovering an area in the game for the first time despite having 200 hours in the game
i never ever been out to the balcony in research hall before
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>>160327839
plip plop, plip plop
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>>160327839
I kinda feel you. I've never been to Lady Yharnam before. Everytime I get deeper into Chalices trying, it's awesome and spooky but I end up quitting because a bad build makes it hard and I'm scrubby.

I got the game on release and I'm fairly sure it's the last trophy I need for plat.
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>>160328173
>a bad build makes it hard

Just make a good build then
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Any kind hunters wanna help with ludwig? He's second phase is killing me
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>>160328232
>he's
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So on weapons like the Burial Blade, you can't force it to be 100% arcane? The damage will ALWAYS be split between physical and arcane, and the physical damage will ALWAYS scale with STR/SKL?
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>>160328232
Sure give me a like 5 mins to boot up
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>>160328269
His*
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>>160328291
Yes
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>>160328308
Awesome I'll ring at church lamp. Pass is ludwig1
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>>160328291
Yes! Do you like it?
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>>160328419
>Do you like it?

no ):
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>>160328406
ringing now
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I'm going to make a whirligig character!
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>>160328591
Shit. My bad, ringing again
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>>160328702
Okay
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>>160328190
If I could, I would have. I was talking to someone earlier this evening on advice on making a 3x kirkhammer arcane build so I could have a useful hammer for each boss/enemy type.
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Anyone need any help?
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>>160329062
Yeah.

With Ludwig.
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>>160329151
Sure whats your pass?
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In case anyone actually wants to co-op and not just meme, I'm still ringing at the nightmare church lamp.

Password is zzz
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>>160329276
dam son you been at this for almost 2 hours
id help out if i had ps+
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I already put some points into skill because I was being ambitious and thinking I could use the super cool fun scythe and that waste of stat allotment is bugging the HELL out of me.

The next weapon up is the Rakuyo but it has no business being a purely Arcane weapon with its base 20 skill requirement.

Other than the church pick, are there any weapons that require at least 12 skill and can work well with an Arcane build?

And is there any way whatsoever I can maybe -- just MAYBE -- get the Burial Blade to work as well as a fire gemmed hunter's axe for PvE?
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>>160329574
>that build
disgusting
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>>160329574
Rakuyo can be converted just fine.

Also no, unless you try to throw on some flat Arc gems, in which case it will still be shit. It's better as 25/50 with Temperings.
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>>160329574
Keep SKL at 12 and raise STR to 16, 18 or 20 depending on how much levels you can afford. That will let you use Ludwigs, Kirk, Stake, Whirligig and Wheel, which are all potentially great Elemental Weapons (except Wheel, which is great anyway). And you need 12 SKL for most of those anyway.

SKL/ARC really isn't viable because there's no synergy. But STR/ARC is one of best and most versitile build's in the game.
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>>160329574
Burial Blade will never outperform converted weapons on an Arcane build so just drop the idea and move on. 16 Strength for Ludwigs, 25 Strength for HMS, Wheel, Boomhammer and Tonitrus with Nourishing gems. Your build is very much salvageable if you keep on leveling. Something like 40+/15/25/12/5/50 is common for Str/Arc hybrids. I usually get 14 Skill for the Church Pick. 20-25 Skill is okay for the HMS.
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>>160329574
12 Skill is great if you bump strength high enough to use Moonlight Sword, Ludwig's, Whirligig, Wheel etc. Failing that, I think Church Pick requires 14 Skill and it's supposedly a great weapon
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>>160329695
Rakuyo is extremely tempting because it has speed on its side, but that really doesn't justify the stat cost.

>>160329781
>>160329797
>>160329816
Looks like I'm going to be converting Ludwig's Holy Blade.

Though for now I'm using a Threaded Cane just for giggles.
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I hate how Papa G always gives me problems and I beat this game 8 times now
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>>160329856
Cane is fun. It's really grown on me lately
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>>160329891
It's not very good until you get it to +5 or better which is probably why I've avoided it for so long. Always left a bad impression in Yharnam.
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>>160329918
I tend to use fire Saw Spear until picking up some arcane gems and put them on the cane. That range, attack radius, and fashion with church gear is rad
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>>160329447
I'd buy you some PSN if you could help me make a build. I'm fucking terrible at it because I like playing more than planning.

I need an arcane Kirkhammer trio build to take me to the moon and beyond.
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>>160330045
25/25/50
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>when you try to roll but jump and die instead
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>>160330045
Physical kirk with papers works perfectly too anon, and you only need 50 str
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Well, at least I can say Ludwig hasn't killed me the same way twice in a row...
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>>160330372
i dont want physical
>>160330391
same
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>>160330372
I've done that, but in my experience arcane, even shitty arcane builds, fair better for damage through defenses (because of solid weaknesses per enemy type) through late dungeons.

>>160330176
I mean like which hammer type to use, where to get it, what gems in what slot, and where to get those, for each of the three elements of arcane, bolt, and fire.
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The hardest thing about Ludwig is the fact that I can never seem to re-adjust myself to the delayed sword swings of his second phase. Delayed attacks ALWAYS throw me way off.
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>>160330453
Hard for me is his charge when im point blank
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>>160330045
Are you serious? Not that guy but my PS+ ended and I've been itching to get back online. Wouldn't mind carrying you all the way if you paid for it.
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>>160330451
>in my experience arcane, even shitty arcane builds, fair better for damage through defenses

I'm really not sure about that, especially when you see the shit you have to do to get good arcane gems
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>>160330520
I'm currently slamming my head against Ludwig on my Arcane build and I keep dying super early into phase 2 because of the delayed attacks.
Doesn't help that I'm also incredibly rusty and doing a build I've never tried in BB before, as well as going through the game in a different order.
Normally I wouldn't do the DLC till end-game.
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>>160330593
phase 2 is easy, its just phase 1 getting to me
im bl20 trying to rush to hamlet for 22.3% atk up gems
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With the help of Alfred, Ludwig hath been slain.
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>>160330654
I wish you the best of luck.
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Ok who needs help with ludwig ? I'm itching to do a HMLS vs HMLS for the first time
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>>160330672
It took some trying but we got through it. Just let me know if you need a hand with anything else.
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>>160330705
I'd ask for help, but I've been dying so consistently that I'm sure it'd be a waste of time.
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>>160330768
ill help too if you want. I'm just at nightmare church now
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>>160330703
thanks, just cleared, wish you the best as well
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>>160330536
There are tons of small steps to getting mediocre gems along the way so if I struggle I can do a little grind to get a slightly better gem or two to increase damage.

Honestly, I'm stuck on arcane because the furthest I've ever gotten in the dungeons is with one from the guide from like 6-7 months ago before it was fleshed out like now.

>>160330528
I typed out a response to you but deleted it because I have trouble with brevity and it was too much.

Yes, I'm serious. I'm not rich but I don't mind helping out BBros when I can.
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>>160330828
Okay, I'm ringing my bell at the nightmare church, password is bbg.
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>>160330654
>BL20 trying to rush for Hamlet gems
Trust me, you are much better off going through the main game and coming back later, or following the Overpowered Amelia lad's idea on getting to Lower Pthu for similar level gems.
Even if you manage to get past Ludwig, there's still Failures and Maria. Failures can probably be chainbackstabbed but Maria doesn't take shit from low levels
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>>160330903
ringing now
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>>160330979
You can parry Maria pretty much infinitely, but you'd run out of bullets long before you'd get her health bar down to a palatable amount for a low level.
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>>160331093
There is that but even mistiming a parry means your health bar gets shredded, and at bl20 that's not a big bar
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Alright I give up: how the fuck do you summon Gascoigne for Cleric Beast? I was hoping to find his OHB by myself, but this nigger's nowhere to be found.
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>>160331162
You find it by the fountain near his house
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>>160331162
He's back near that closed gate where you find the torch
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Thank you, Alfred. I am most grateful.
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>>160330878
My PSN is AnemicBeast if you wanna message me. Sorry to sound like a moocher but I'd be more than happy to help.
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>>160331272
>>160331289
Oh goddamn. I thought it was on the bridge.

Near his house makes more sense though.
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>>160330979
ludwigs done, and maria is a joke, she can just be stagger locked forever.
i level vit last so it doesnt feel any different from a regular playthrough just i do less damage
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>>160331294
No problem! Always happy to help. give us a shout if you need help with any other bosses
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>>160331162
So where the first lamp in the game is there is a closed gate.

When you open that gate by going through the path by the bridge, and starting from the lamp:
>go through gate slowly down those first few steps before baddie
>look to left for message
>ring bell on message for gascoigne

Done. NPC messages look special.
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>tfw cant think of a fun build or weapon to use

someone just yell at me any suggestions idc at this point
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>>160331436
Skl/Blt
The plot twist is that you farm offshapes and put them on a rakuyo
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Did they patch out the ludwig cheese where you sit at fog gate and let the witch mob grab you, getting ludwig stuck behind the fog gate letting you use a long range weapon like the whip and slap him to death?
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>>160331436
Blood Flail or Hunter's Claws
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>>160331436
Full 32.6% Blunt Beast Cutter
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Is Waste Of Skin The Most Efficient Origin Class To Pick?
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>>160331564
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>>160331564
Depends on your build but if you're going in blindly Waste of Skin has the least mistakes.
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>>160331508
No but it still warps you in during Phase 2
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>>160331564
Not if you're minmaxing but if you don't know what you're building for, its alright.
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>>160331615
>>160331690
>responding seriously to that obvious reddit foreigner

pls
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>>160331774
>CallIng Me A Redditor

>2016
>ISHYGDDT
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>>160331564
Fuck Off Back To Twitter, Jaden
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Ooga Booga where the ayylmaos at?
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>>160331774
Fuck off, anime poster.
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>>160324779
Is it possible you or that Amelia fag can make one of these for Arcane/Bolt/Fire builds?
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>>160331863
WHOA THIS IS META LEVEL NOW
>know your meme constanza image
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>>160332105
start saw spear
bsb
depth 1 layer 1 farm fire axe guys in the first room for 2x 9.7% fire gems
get 8% waning gem from cath hall
should carry you until the end of the game
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>>160332105
That's what I was asking about. I'm the dude who was offering psn+. I would love some kind of build that maximizes the potential of the three versions of the kirkhammer so I can enjoy it and smash dungeons with one of each element.
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Anyone need any co-op?
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>>160332331
Anon, surely you want some co-op help as well right?

Give the thread a chance to pay you back some time.
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>Log out to come ask about where to find Papa G's summon
>Can't bring myself to log back in and play

Even with all the new blood I'm still just too damn burnt out to play.
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>>160332419
Co-op is pretty fun, i find it enjoyable helping out.

Ive done pretty much everything else with my character anyways other that farming for Blood Gems.
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>>160332225
>depth 1 layer 1 farm fire axe guys in the first room for 2x 9.7% fire gems
I have never seen those dudes drop gems.
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>>160332509
Next to the fountain right after running past the crowded area with a burning Scourge Beast. Should be close to the Brick dude banging the door.
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>>160332651
Nah I got the answer already. I just... don't want to play anymore.
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>>160332105
>>160332228
Problem is Phtu offers nothing but fire gems, but then you fight a boss that has fire immunity.
But since you cant get chalice until after bsb and hypon goel whatever the fuck its called gets opened up you can get tonitrus for a bolt secondary since you wont really get any gems

i dont know a lot about chalice outside phtu has 9% fire gems, but yuou also fight a boss that has 9999 fire resistance so it be good to have a back up weapon

you're going kirk hammer so get 25str anyways, it will help with early game

gonna need someone with some bombing chalice knowledge

before amelia you have access to all of phtu and all of hintertomb, might be a good idea to look into what drops what

the "clarence guy" in his amelia guy drops arcane gems as well from my experience, so lower hintertomb layer 1 for a + arcane atk triangle
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rate this fashion
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>>160332768
You could always switch out the fire gems and put in the mediocre physical gems picked up along the way, pop a BB Pellet and Bolt Paper for Hotdog.
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>>160332768
>Problem is Phtu offers nothing but fire gems, but then you fight a boss that has fire immunity.
Depth 1 Hotdog is a joke. +3-6 your Saw Cleaver and gem it with thatever phys gems happens to drop on the way; even at base stats all you have to do is break his nose and he falls apart.
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>>160332105
If you grab the waning Fire Gem from Cathedral Ward, and kill Hotdog twice for two 10% Radials, and drop them in your weapon, that can hold you over until Mensis.

You don't have access to Arcan gems, that I'm aware of, until the Forbidden Woods. Failed Emissaries will drop 9% Arcane triangles. You can either farm them for off-shapes (not recommended), or hill Central Pthumerian HMPH twice for Cold Gems (also not recommended because frankly Arcane damage is kind of garbage in the grand scheme of things).
Earliest access to Bolt that I'm aware of are the wanings that the Silverbeasts in Nightmare Frontier drop. You can either farm for off-shapes there, or hit up HMPH for Colds.
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>>160332861
generic anime slut
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>>160332861
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>>160333332
>kill hotdog twice

How can you do that? Is there a way to reset bosses?
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>>160333520
savescum
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>>160333520
Either run through the chalice twice or get summoned to layer 3
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>>160333530
How would that net you two gems?
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>>160333520
Run the chalice twice. Once you've made a chalice once you can search and open the same kind of chalice for free.

>>160333530
That would only net you one gem, anon.
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>>160333520
Just remake the chalice, 2nd option let's you remake it without consuming materials but if you picked up everything the first time you went through it you should be able to make it again.
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>>160333572
So I'd remove the chalice and then just redo it?
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>>160333650
Either that or search for another.
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>>160333686
>>160333625
>>160333604
Alright, thanks
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>>160333760
Happy hunting.

You're gonna get real sick of passing up 16-20-something% phys gems to stick to elemental damage, but it pays off in the end.
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I'm starting to think that watchers arcane triangles are a legend. They keep dropping physical gems on my arcane character with no fucking end. With like one fire gem from time to time and still NO arcane gem

Fuck
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>>160334065
Settle for a 26.9% from an Isz Beast-Possesed Soul.
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>>160334102
Glyph ? It's not in the datasheet
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>>160334291
Oh, my bad; Loran* BPS. (So it's gonna be a waning, sorry)

The one in, IIRC, Layer 1 qe7igj98 is where I got mine.
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>>160334381
Fuck, it's also only ("only") 26.3%

I'm just fucking full of shit this morning.
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>>160334381
Thanks, but I need a triangle for Cane and Kos parasite...
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>>160334497
You don't *need* a triangle, surely? Getting a different shape Arc just means needing a different shape Cold Abyssal.

Unless you +10'd two weapons without Waning slots. Regrettable, but I'd still rather waste two rocks than farm Watchers.
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>>160334581
Not +10 but I already got my radial cold abyssal so I don't want to refarm a waning one. Why didn't you allow character sharing items, Miyazaki ? I'm sure I have one on another character. And perfectly useless of course
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>>160334676
>Hunter's Dream would have been a great meta-device for sharing items across hunters
Too bad, so sad
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>>160334676
Again, I'd rather do that than farm Watchers lol. But yeah it's your time m8. Good luck.
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>>160334751
I'll just stop for now and farm from time to time I guess
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>>160334890
You could try Ebrietas? She's not too, too bad solo, and will at least get you a triangle in the 20%s. Unless that's what you're trying to improve upon.
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>>160334998
>there's a 21% in a coffin layer 1

Oh baby. Farming can wait
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>>160335130
Oh yeah I forgot about that one.
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>>160335169
Well it turned out it's not better than the +67 arc damage +8.8%arc triangle I had. Back to farming I guess
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I think I will try an arcane build for my next character. Anything I should be wary of when doing one?
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>>160335550
Yes. You will farm. A lot. Apart from that just follow Arcane 101 and you're settled. That's what I did and got no major trouble
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>>160335550
you'll need gems to convert basic weapons into elemental ones, and you'll need bullets if you're going to go hunter tool-heavy. Lots of bullets.
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>>160335550
start ->base str and skl needed for desired weapon ->25 arc -> 20 end ->20 vit 50 arc ->30vit
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>>160335662
I see. So runes that give me more qs bullets and vials would be useful or a waste of time?
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>>160335550
Lots of farming once you finish chalices. Chalices are very easy with 70+ arcane because of tools. Still not bad at 50 just because fire saw/bse. If you set it up properly you can be very strong during the entirety of your game. Arcane is very powerful. I have beaten the game/chalices by only leveling that stat to 99 and it wasn't hard at all.Its very fun too.
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>>160335550
And what about a Str/Arc hybrid? Is this topic also explained in arcane 101?
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>>160335738
I think that may be a matter of preference. Personally I could see the use in Oedon runes, especially when using tools like A Call Beyond that chews up 7 bullets per cast. You can always (and probably should) supplement with blood bullets when you can, but late game, or if you're going to start dungeon delving hard, it may not be as much of an issue since you could just max out your storage with bullets for all the echoes you'll be gathering.
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>>160335515
>Well it turned out it's not better than the +67 arc damage +8.8%arc triangle I had
Be aware that that +67 isn't modified by attack modifiers.

Meaning an attack that has a 1.5 modifier, say, will do (your AR -67)*1.5 +67.

Even if the nominal AR value looks lower, it might actually be better.
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Gonna start a STR build, because apparently I've never really done one throughout the entirety of the souls games. Assuming I'm going for at least 50 STR, what should I raise other stats like SKL or ARC to ensure I have a large variety of weapons to play with?
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>>160335979
25 str -> 25 skill -> 50 str
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>>160335810
25/12+ Str/Skl, Nourishing gems for HMS, Wheel, Boomhammer and Tonitrus.
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>>160335909
Oh I didn't know that, thanks
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>>160335979
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>>160335979
25 Skill and 15-25 Arcane.
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>>160336071
>hunter axe
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>>160336041
>>160335874
>>160335795
>>160335693
>>160335662
>>160335618

Thank you
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>>160336176
Yes, it is actually amazing, especially for CC in extended mode.
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>>160336176
Don't respond to the tripfag.
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Anyone need a summon for Ludwig?
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>>160336063
Yeah it took me as quite as a shock.

There are builds that those gems work for (and I think some kind of Kos Parasite build is one of them), but generally speaking +x damage gems are never better than +x%s.
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>>160336449
It's quite scary how complex is the gem system and damage in general in this game. I'll settle for the new gem then
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>>160336574
It feels a whole lot more complex than it is at first. Once you get familiar with it it's actually quite natural.

The whole +x attack thing was probably the most surprising thing since the stat screen lumps it in with the rest of your AR.
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>>160336812
Kek if you say so. I'm almost at 300 hours in the game and I still don't fully grasp all those info. I'm actually glad people put those builds and set ups because I would be fucking lost without them
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just started my arcane dude and got 2x 10.5% fire attack radials and that 8.% waning on my saw spear and am hitting like a truck with 25arc and havent even killed amelia or witches this is fun
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>>160337109
Wait till you get Exe gloves, Amy melts with them.
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>Just killed Papa G without using the tombstones for the first time in probably half a dozen runs

Feels good man.

Although I fought him on the stairs which is probably almost as cheesy. Thanks based speedrunners.
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why is it sometimes i phase through enemies?
i'll go to swing but they're immune

or ill parry and viseral but instead of viseralling i go inside them
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>>160338613
am i shadowbanned
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>>160339440
yes
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>>160338613
It's a glitch that happens if you're too close. Usually happens when you dodge in after a parry to get close, hit just goes through.
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Is Pthumerian Queen very hard? Only played through the game once and wanna platinum it pretty soon but I read that Chalice Dungeons don't even scale with NG+ so the later ones must be difficult by default, right?
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>>160340545
She is actually really easy if you have throwing knives.
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>>160340545
Not really, medium difficulty at best.
It's a fun boss though, I recommend it.
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If I am trying to get some uncanny weapons from the chalice dungeons and I make a dungeon with all the rituals, can I then use the glyphs with the same chalice but only fetid and cursed offering?
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>>160340591
>>160340872
thank you.
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>>160341397
Yes
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>tfw offline mode poorfag
>tfw can't join my jolly confederates
>tfw can't use glyphs, have to grind materials
>tfw can't beat FRC Ihyll HBLB solo
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Who wants to join a BL58 arcfag's trip through the Fishing Hamlet to get that sweet ass Kos Parasite?
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ded ganearal
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>that one fucking fishcunt who drops down on you in the hamlet near the shortcut

HURR I CAN JUST HYPERARMOR THROUGH YOUR ATTACKS TIME TO GRAB AND ONESHOT YOU HOPE YOU WEREN'T ATTACHED TO THOSE ECHOES
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>>160343693
g__ g__
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>>160341995
where you from?
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>>160322451
>rocket punches do less damage than a visceral
what am i doing wrong?
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>>160341995
Iirc then you could create a new account from the US or so and that account would get ps plus for 7 days. Then you just set that account to primary and all your other accounts have playstation plus now too.
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fuck chalice dungeons
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So I goofed and accidentally bought a PS+ card from a country my account isn't registered to. Could I create another account, register it to the same country as the card, enter the code and that should give my "main" account PS+ aswell, right?
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I fucking finally did it guys I solo'd the whole dungeon I noticed my skill level go up in pvp too. It was so fucking difficult but none of the bosses are on the level of Cursed Amy. The last thing for me to do with this character is get the optimal gems and runes. After that shit fest it should be manageable at least.
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>>160347529
>Defiled Amy
>hard
wew
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>>160346671
As long as you activate that account as your primary one, yes
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>>160347923
Don't be a faggot anon it's a pain if you main a short weapon. This is not dark souls general take that shit somewhere else.
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>>160348186
Gotta love how Playstation support just straight up lied to me, jewing me into buying another one
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>>160348536
So it worked?
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>>160348536
Can't test it until tomorrow. I just read on several sites that it's possible but last week when I contacted support they said it wouldn't work and stopped responding
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>>160348896
meant for >>160348647
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>>160348481
>bitch post
>calls others /dsg/
ok
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>>160349090
>bitch post
I was just saying I beat some bosses that gave me trouble that is not a bitch post.
Can we leave this dumb shit on /v/ please? BBG is where we come to enjoy the game not shitpost. I'll be glad to shit talk with you there some other time.
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>>160347529
>defiled amy
>hard
kek

>I noticed my skill level go up in pvp too
yeah i don't believe you
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>>160349384
This is a bitch post >>160348481
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>>160349967
god forbid someone wants to express joy when they overcome something they've struggled with
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I beat Orphan at the 4th try. I am incredibly shook right now. That was thrilling.
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>>160351443
I beat your mom.

Now that was thrilling.
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>>160351443
Truly the best feeling
>Laurence first try
>Ludwig 2nd try
>Maria 2nd try

Orphan took me a bit more, maybe five.

>tfw Living Failures took me at least 10 tries
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Anyone want to help me get the Hamlet Blood Rock and take out Orphan? So close to that Kos Parasite...
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Let's say From announces their next IP as bloodborne 2.
What would you want to see changed? What shouldn't be touched at all? What would you want to see added?
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Gonna be posting some webms of funny stuff, close calls, etc.

YOU BETTER BE OKAY WITH IT.

>>160351443
>>160351710
But at what BL?
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>>160352154
About 80. It was my first playthrough and I only had DLC, Ebrietas and the final boss left
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>>160352050
If you're still stuck on orphan in like an hour ill jump on and help ya.
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>>160352108
New lore. No Dark Souls 3 recycling garbage. I just want jumping to be like in DaS2 instead of this godawful B-jumping
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>>160352108
Be able to reset areas/restock at lanterns

Only one type of ritual materials, no having to seek out specific shit, Ritual Bloods or just Ritual Materials

Chalices have distinct architectural designs instead of different filters, helps prolong longevity when the chalices aren't horribly boring to look at and be in, visual design really does matter

Just fucking remove bloodgems except for converting into elemental damage

Leave all else as it is
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Anyone wanna go through the second part of forbidden woods and take out shadows?
Password is 'bbg'
Ill be at first lamp
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>>160352108
Beast Blood Pellets are affordable and are sold at the blood echo vendor instead of insight.
Fire Paper and Bolt Paper more affordable.
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>make arcane character
>have fun
>realize I can't get any arcane/fire/bolt games in the main game and have to chalice grind

You guys have it rough, also think I wasted chunks on a Tonitrus when I should have used it on my Church Pick.
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>>160353065
Cathedral Ward has a fire waning and you get bolt gems from the Hamlet my dude
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>tfw beat ludwig on my level 30 arc/fire saw spear +6 guy with no problem
>struggle with my 25str/25skl +9 Beast cutter character

aaaa
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>>160353248
I already have 2x 10..5% radials and the 8% Waning, I'm set with my fire weapon. It's my bolt weapon that's lacking. I got the 18.5% Waning Bolt from Unseen Village; didn't know about the Hamlet ones shame that Living Failures are cockblocking me hard atm.
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>>160352154
90. I skipped most of Fishing Hamlet though by luck. Went straight for the boss instead of looking around under the lighthouse.

Man, this game was difficult.
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>>160352154
Ludwig 1 try (Phase 2 so much easier than phase 1)
Living Failures 1 try
Lady Maria 1 try (r1 r1 parry zzz)
Orphan of Kos 15 tries (mostly learning parry and backstab timings)
Laurence 9 tries

I kept dying to Laurence because I wanted to play aggressively and you can't really do that phase 2.
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Anyone wanna Co-op through Upper Cathedral Ward with me and a friend? Pass is 'eyes'. I'll be ringing at the first lamp in about 20 minutes.
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>>160354034
Shit, forgot to say. BL 65
I remember being low because I kept bitching about not having enough health
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>>160352746
Anyone?
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>>160352108
Late response, but here goes.

Change frenzy somehow. Something like, it still takes away a chunk of your health, but not a huge amount. Or something else, like making you more susceptible to certain kinds of damage.

Make Insight do something other than let you see crazy shit or be currency. It's good as it is now, but it needs to be expanded on.

Make Arcane and Bloodtinge builds less impossible to start with; have at least one weapon of each type hidden somewhere earlier on.

Different Great ones and eldritch bullshit. Bloodborne feels complete as is, we don't need to retread the same ground. Instead of a childbirth theme, we could concentrate more on evolution and add another theme, like what death means to a Great One.

And more weapons, of course, so long as each one is unique in some way. Same for Fashionborne.
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>>160352050
You still needing co-op in hamlet?
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>>160354528
I' up for it. I am currently bl60 and at byrgenwerth though
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>>160354528
ringing now
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Defiled hotdog is continuing to wreck my shit. Pass is /bbg/, ringing at the fog gate. Anyone is welcome to join.
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>>160355045
/bbg/
/bbg/,
bbg
which one is it
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>>160355129
/bbg/

No caps, slashes included.
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Ringing at Upper Cathedral Ward now. Pass is eyes.
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>>160354578
Absolutely, if you're still there!
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Okay so here's a quick arcane/fire write up for anyone interested.
http://pastebin.com/jntJcYgS
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>>160355831
ill be ringing at start of hamlet in a min whats the pass?
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Thank you Alfred
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>>160356052
No problem.
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Strange. It seems I can't join other people's session with a password. My PS+ sign is still there though. Anyone experienced something similar?
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>>160356024
Lighthouse now, going for Orphan, pass is kos
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>Wanted to make a Kos Parasite ever since the DLC released
>Haven't bothered because I hate the idea of needing to clear the entire DLC and whatever else leading up to it with a janky ARC build.

>BUT YOU CAN GET THESE SPESHUL GEMS IF YOU WANT ANON!
I'm not grinding gems so I can grind more gems.
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>>160356406
shadowbanned
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>>160356643
For what though? Didn't even touched mp since I redownloaded this game.
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>>160356750
For being a memeblade user
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has anyone by chance translated the lyric from ebrietas theme. specifically at 1:03 secs : https://youtu.be/PajtbXEK9cc?t=1m2s
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Oh God I'm only doing chip damage to this guy
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Need help with Logarius. Trying to get the edgeblade early.
Password is bbg
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Alfred, I have zero vials, need to buy some real quick
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>>160357738
no worries I'm restocking too
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>tfw hunter's mark resembles a hanging fish
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>>160357824
God bless Hypogean Gaol pigs' echoes and drops, ringing again
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>>160356598
You don't have to grind the early fire gems, just kill Hotdog twice for two Radials and pick up the Waning gem. DLC Bolt gems need a little grinding, just two 20.3% Radials and a Bolt Waning near the Blood Rock. That'll get you to FRC well enough.
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>>160358425
>just kill Hotdog twice
That's exactly what constitutes grinding anon. It's not even like Hotdog is a layer 1 boss.
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>>160358335
ringing too
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Outermost layer Dura Mater(Tough Mother) = Cursed the Hunters = Kos
Beneath that is the Arachnoid Mater(Spider Mother), Looks like a cellophane wrap = The shrouding/holding back of the rituals = ROM
Last Layer is the Pia Mater(Tender Mother), Interposed within the CNS = Still birthed brains and constant cries because its away from mother, who is weeps for its return = Mergo/Yharnam
These all coincide with major points in the story of Yharnam. The Original Sin, the pulling back of the veil, and the silencing of the Nightmare Newborn so it can return to its true mother.
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>>160358658
It's literally the first chalice dude, and it's only twice.
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>>160358736
If you're lucky.
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>>160358763
No, he always drops a fire gem.
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>>160356002
thanks, anon
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>>160358425
Killing hotdog twice and getting the waning gem takes 45 minutes from creating your guy to getting your last getm from hotdog

saw spear +6 with the 3 fire gems at 25 arc is enough to kill ludwig, living failures, maria and get to hamlet to start farming your bolt gems which will last you until end game chalices, from here you will have enough materials to +10 any weapon of your choice and +9 another while having 3x fire gems and 3x bolt gems to swap out if you wanted to

overal time shoud be 2-3 hours, 3 if rng is bad

this entire game is grindy, but the grind you're complaining about isn't as bad as other grinds
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>>160359119
Wrong dude, I'm not the one complaining.
>>
A third want to join us for Orphan? A full squad might just do the trick.

Pass is kos, ringing at the lighthouse hut lamp if you're up for it
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>>160357103
I-its getting cold on these stairs...
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>>160359414
Sure man, who's with you right now?
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>>160359587
It's myself and Alfred, screaming beach man is kicking my ass, Alfred is being very patient
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>>160359661
I gotta see this though to the end. Lets squash the orphan
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>Get urge to play
>Play for a couple days
>Get to Shadows/Rom
>Lose interest
>Drop game
>Repeat every couple months

Man I'm on the urge to play again, knowing I'll drop it after a bit
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>>160359661
Fug i've been ringing for a bit

couldn't work yesterday either. Guess I can't join ya. Net has been weird since two days ago
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>>160359414
Unfortunately I am not that far in the DLC. Good luck though.
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>>160359932
No worries, anon
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>>160360126
>>160359770
Godspeed, you two.

Somewhere out there, I'm rooting for you
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>>160359910
Shadows is my game killer. Just like how post anor londo and undead settlement are in the other games.

I like to do everything I can before shadows. That includes cainhurst, nightmare frontier, chalice dungeons and dlc
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>>160360260
I don't think I've ever done those places because I followed a "which boss next" infograph
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>>160359661
Shit sorry that was my bad.
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>>160359484
I'd help you if I was at home, anon :p
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Your favorite Bloodborne enemy(non-boss)?
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First playthrough here. Not gonna read the thread to not spoil myself but i want to share my current experience to hear you opinions

>play BB after being a mediocre DK and DK II player
>actually do quite well against bosses, defeated some of them (Gascoigne, Cleric Beast, BSB, Rom, Hemwick witches, Shadows of yharnam) at my first, second or third attempt.
>Struggled a bit with Vicar Amelia
>red moon part
>lots of paths
>also start the DLC
>start performing shit against normal mobs, get destroyed by enemies in the first area of the DLC
>getting destroyed by mobs in upper Cathedral
>struggling with Yahar'Gul unseen village

Is it normal or am I just shit and got lucky with some bosses?
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>>160360992
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>>160360992
>>160361096
I wonder what sex would be like with these two?
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>>160360992
Winter Lanterns, for design.

Scourge Beasts too. They're kinda cute, in a way. Just snarling, angry wolves with adorable nub tails.
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>>160361047
DLC and Yaharhar are pretty tough so it's normal. Make sure you have at least 30 Vitality while tackling these areas.
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>>160360992
These things are by far the most badass enemies I've ever seen in a videogame.
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>>160361172
If a madman had his way with a snail woman the snail wold get torn to pieces
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>>160332105
> Is it possible you or that Amelia fag can make one of these for Arcane/Bolt/Fire builds?

Amelia fag here

Do it yourself you lazy bastard.

There are no early sources of Arcane or Bolt gem except for 1 in a million drops from Watchers, but by farming Depth 3 Flaming Weapon Skinny Mummies you can get powerful Fire Radials/Triangles.

If you get to Loran as soon as you can, you can now get even better Fire Wanings, as well as Bolt Wanings by farming Flaming Weapon Madmen for the curse effect + x2 seondary and if you get a root dungeon with Bone Ash Hunters in it, you could even get Radial fire/bolt gems.
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>>160361395
Forgot pic
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Gotta go get some vials again after this, Alfred, this lad's eating through everything
>>
Which lamp is supposed to bring me to the nightmare lecture building/hall?
>>
>>160361746
No worries I'm gonna restock too. give us a shout when your'e ringing again
>>
>>160361881
You get taken there via getting the tonsil stone and getting grabbed by the Amygdala to the right of the Grand Cathedral
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>>160361987
where is this stone you speak of?
>>
>>160362234
Forbidden woods, if you speak with an NPC in a wood house he gives it to oyu
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>>160362234
Go into the Forbidden Woods (just needs to be unlocked, at least get to the lamp there), then go back to any window in Yharnam or Cathedral Ward with a red lantern outside it, speak to the NPC inside (talking to Gilbert's window at the Central Yharnam lamp is easiest) and you'll get an item called the Tonsil Stone.

I know, sounds like a meme, but there's a lot of obscure stuff in this game.
>>
>>160332768
> the "clarence guy" in his amelia guy drops arcane gems as well from my experience, so lower hintertomb layer 1 for a + arcane atk triangle

Do you have proof of that? Because I killed Clarence 30+ times and got nothing but Tempering/Murky and for secondaries got nothing but flat Phys, both types of poison and ATK VS Beasts up.
>>
ALRIGHT ALFRED

LET'S GO
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>>160362954
Lets smack us an orphan
>>
Anyone willing to help out with orphan?
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>>160360992
Hear me out

Huntsmen are the only mods to my knowledge that have dialogue in all the from games, everything else just grunts or howls or whatever making the world seem like it's dead and only inhabited by monsters while Yharnam felt alive because of the constant screaming and whispering, they just added so much to the atmosphere.
>>
>>160363482
Ye, just got home, anon. Can't say no to Orphan

I'll join if you'll have me
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>>160362710
yea, I'm lvl 62 and stuck at the yahar'gul church, and I never knew about this place :/
>>
>>160363608
Cheers mate, Pass is kos and i think the host is ringing at lighthouse hut
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>>160363674
Thanks, man. I'll be right with you guys in a minute or two
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>>160363608
>>160363674
Lighthouse Hut with kos pass, let's git im
>>
So I borrowed my cousin PS4 and he had the game and I've been playing it. I'm enjoying it immensely actually and saw the DLC on sale recently it's now not on sale but I want to try it however I'm on the fence about purchasing it even for 20$ as I'm not made of money. What does it add and is it worth it to pick up?
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Fucking goddamn Christ

Sorry about that
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>>160363949
I'd say it adds between 5-10 hours of new gameplay, some great new weapons and imo has the 3 best bosses in the entire game in it. But I honestly don't know if it's worth it if you just borrowed it and don't have too much money to spare
>>
>summoning takes insight
I knew summoning Alfred for BsB was too good to be true.
>>
>>160364310
god damn he slapped my shit in
>>
I can't believe people actually like gherman
This boss is so fucking shitty that i hope whoever on the testing team okay'd him to go through was fired.
>>
Someone beckon for orphan
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>>160364367
It's no big deal I'll be borrowing my cousins PS4 for as long as I like he's fine with it. I can expend 20$ I was just curious if it was worth purchasing. I'm using Hunters Axe and Kirkhammer and the chalice dungeons apparently drop various versions of them so I'm waiting to see those in the dungeon I'm currently in, I fought the big fire mutt and died several times due to how much damage he inflicts with that charge attack he can do if I got caught off guard. Was a fun fight, I cringed when I remember Dark Souls 3 reused that boss and made it really shitty
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>>160365142
low quality bait
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>>160316921
Speaking of whom, how are you supposed to make Djura your ally? The Wiki states you have to enter Old Yharnam from either the Grave of the Darkbeast, or the Church of the Good Chalice.

But the only way to access either of these places without going through the main entrance to Old Yharnam is to first kill Vacuous Rom, then slog through Yhar'gul to get to the cave leading to Dark Beast Paarl.

So basically you can't be friends with him unless you kill Rom and go through Yhar'gul without going through the main way to Old Yharnam?
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>>160365483
literally my least favorite boss in the entire game
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>>160365630
Kill BSB and then Paarl
>>
Alright lads, let's go once more, I'm starting to think I might be too weak for this, I'm doing chip damage and he two shots me with his wombo combos
>>
>>160365630
No. Just get captured by a snatcher after you kill BSB and just make sure you don't kill him your first time through the area.
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>>160365890
we'll give it another go then we shall see
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>>160365890
What the fuck is a wombo combo ya moron?
>>
>>160365814
>>160365896
But that makes no sense, I thought you couldn't reach the BSB without first going through the main part of Old Yharnam and being seen/shot at by Djura? Unless you're saying you can still talk to him after he's seen you as long as you go back later from the CGC or Darkbeast Graveyard.
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>>160365890
I think this'll be my last try. If you wanna level up and try in a few hours I'm game
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>>160366264
Killing Paarl resets Djura.
Just don't attack anything in Old Yharnam while you visit Djura
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>>160366264
>you can still talk to him after he's seen you
This, that's what was said.

>what is reading comprehension
>>
>>160365368
If you're doing the dungeons right, you won't find different versions of those weapons until you complete the non-root dungeons and created an FRC Depth 5 root. Only DLC weapons in different versions can be purchased if you picked up the normal version and find a Bath shop in a dungeon. You'll have to search for glyphs to find different versions of non-DLC weapons, which are pulled from online sources.

They're nothing too special, only difference is the gem slot shapes and if you're running a physical build you already have the best versions of the Hunter Axe and Kirkhammer.
>>
>>160366348
>>160366416
Got it, thanks
>>
THANK FUUUUCK

Thank you so much for helping out Alfred, Segalt, you are both scholars and gentlemen, that was the true nightmare
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>>160366989
We fucking did it. It took some time but damn that was worth it. Was good fun getting through the dlc with you. Have some happy huntings with the Kos Parasite.
>>
Migrate:
>>160367250
>>160367250
>>160367250
>>160367250
>>160367250
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>>160366989
That was fucking neat.

I really appreciate you letting me join you two. Orphan co-op is endless fun
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>>160365368
In that case I'd go for it. The DLC is really good
>>
Anyone wanna fuck around in the Forbidden Woods with me?
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>>160301735
>he needed the crutch for rom
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