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Old thread! >>160296947


>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp

>Google Document for all the above, but easier to read.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
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anyone need any early game help? I'm up to amelia
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>>160367656
I can help you beat Amelia if you wanna run through the woods with e.
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>>160369890
I'll run through the woods with you if you'd like?
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>>160369951
If you've unlocked it, I'll be ringing at the lamp with the pass kos
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>>160370469
You mean Kosm ?
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>>160370568
This reminds me of when I once vactually tried to use the pass rom
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>>160370568
>>160370469
Password is kosm?
Are you running through mine or are we running through yours?
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>>160367250
wtf, use the kenneth version for fucks sake disgusting
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>>160370783
It's Kos or some say Kosm
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>>160367250

>That pic

The Choir is not for lewd!
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>>160370920
yurie a cute!!
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>>160370783
We can run through yours first then mine if you want
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>>160370915
Well what password are you using and who's world are we running in?
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>>160371030
Kos ! No wait, I mean Kosm
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>>160370920
Yurie is for bullying
I don't have that pic of a Yahar'gul hunter with a rope around a Choir member, but if I did, I'd post it.
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>>160371089
Which one is it! Which one is it!?
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>>160371109
Got you covered famygdala
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>>160371190
There's another guy shitposting

Forbidden Woods lamp, pass is kos, we'll run through mine just to open it all up, then yours
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>>160371190
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>160371214
I can always count on you, anon
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>>160371298
Without ID's is hard to really know who's who well there is a way but I'm too lazy. I'm not getting anything with kos when I ring the bell I'm at the first lamp also if it matters.
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So what would your dream/ideal trick weapon be, guys?

Mine would be something like Blades of Mercy/Rakuyo (minus spin2win), but when tricked one blade does fire damage, and the other does bolt. R2 attacks with the right only, L2 with the left, and R1 alternates. Scales off both SKL and ARC.
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>>160371467
BECAUSE ITS KOSM. DONT LISTEN TO THE OTHER ANON HES THE ONE LYING
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>>160371485
Isn't that in Dark Souls 3?
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When is the earliest you can farm for decent bloodtinge gems?
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>>160371710
Something similar, but I think it's fire and... dark? Besides, moveset is different from what I described.
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>>160371924
>>160371710
The Dancer's weapon, right?
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>>160371894
Centeral Pthumuru Root dungeon gave me this

For some reason Shotgun Watchers in preset Chalice's don't drop BLT gems. Exact mechanics are still a mystery. A Depth 3 version of this gem could drop at 24%. But apart from guns there's little point because you can't even get the Lost Chikage until Ihyll Root Dungeons. And it's definetly not worth farming Offshapes until Depth 5. I guess you could put it on a Lost Bowblade to help you through later Chalice's and DLC on a pure BLT build.
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>>160372601
Thank you. Also is the lost chikage the way to go for a pure BLT build?
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>>160372712
yes, if you are leaving SKL at 15 and never using the untricked version you want Lost Chikage because it has a circle slot for BLT gems, which go up to 31.5% but only boost tricked mode. 27.2% Physical gems boost both forms of the weapon but are obviously less powerful. It is possible to get Radial BLT gems, but you have to rely on either offshapes (where a gem drops a shape it normally doesn't) which is about 1/100 based on estimates, or get Merciless Watchers boss to drop a Radial or Triangle BLT gem, which is possible, but probably 1/100,000 at least.
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What classes would you take on your first day at Byrgenwerth college, anons? I'll take eye removal 101 and basic arcane knowledge, maybe even blood chemical research if i'm feeling like a fucking nerdboi
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>>160372712
If you're going to farm for offshapes? It's dependent on what drops you get, really. You might end up getting a perfect triangle before you get two usable radials, so then you can just use the default one if you're lazy and don't feel like running to get a lost one.
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w-what happened, John?
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I lost connection with you Grigori what happened on your end or was it both of us?
Anyway we didn't get all the way through it.
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>>160373395
Whichever classes based micolash is teaching.
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>>160373395
Everyone says Professor M's classes are a hoot.
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>>160373395
I'd take some theoretical cosmology, and How to Fuck Everything's Shit Up (taught by Laurence)
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>>160373551

>Wanting to attend eye granting 101
>Wanting to learn how to open portals into the nightmares
>Wanting to go NEAR that fucking freak at all

Well, enjoy your free bird cage on the first day of class I guess
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>>160373395

I'm majoring in Runeology, teacher is a guy named Carryl. I'm also enrolled in the laberynth archeology elective, I thought it would be nice to get away from campus on field trips. Had to sign a billion wavers though, but they're just catacombs, there can't be anything actually dangerous down there, right?
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>>160373395
Rune Etchings I with Master Caryll
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>>160373469
I don't know man let's try it again. My internet was fine albeit a tad laggy but nothing bad on my end. Also how do you deal so much damage?
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>>160373395

Gimme basic trick weapon forging and bloodgem research 101. Also maybe Caryll rune research for my amped up characters

>tfw I can only draw low tier blurry runes
f u c k
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>>160373861
Got kicked out of that class for drawing a dick as a rune.

But I fucking swear I was only drawing what I heard. Caryll thinks I'm fucking with him
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>>160373395
Sex ed. Gehrman's a great teacher, I hear
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>>160373395
Whichever class lets me post on Yharnam /pol/
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>>160373737
>>160373830
>>160373861
>>160373949

> All these rune-bro's

How's my final assessment looking guys? I spent so long listening and carefully drawing this out, it seems to be related to the Pthumerian Queen.

I hope I get good grades, I need a 3.5 GPA to keep qualifying for the Cainhurst scholarship.
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>>160374260
Shit, man that looks pretty damn good. You'll do fine.

I'm still only a beginner in rune interpretation, but does that one say Loss?
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>>160374260
I'm at a loss for words.
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>>160374260
Why did you quote me
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>>160374260
>>160374354
Loss...some say, lost.

Do you hear our keks?

No. We will not abandon the meme.
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>>160373395
Taking Pthumerian ruin excavation & archaeology. We're going on a field trip to some place called 'Defiled Pthumeru'. Sounds scary.
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>>160374423
He meant to reply to the guy above you and misclicked.
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You guys signing up for the excursion to the Coast? Apperently there was an amazing discovery in some backwater fishing villiage.
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>>160373830
Ringing again, sorry I didn't see this!

And I've got some disgusting bolt gems from the DLC
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>>160373395
Shared a few drinks with Professor Micolash and let me tell you he is into some weird shit.
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>>160374601
Fuck yes. I can't wait for some hands-on research. These books are insightful, but just imagine what we'll see. I'm sure it will be good material.
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>>160374638
Give me a moment I'll be in the washroom for a minute. I'll set it up though.
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>>160373395
Arcane Studies, gonna be up to my neck in phantasms
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>>160374074
Caught that guy peeking into the girl's bathroom the other day. He's pretty weird
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>All these ignorant plebs not taking metal shop with Prof. Archibald
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>>160374601
Hope we'll get to do some volley ball on the beach. There are a lot of girls who want to join the choir this year, and it's their last chance to give their blood to someone else than the church if you catch my meaning
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>>160374601
Nah, can't. Going out to the Hemwick Countryside with some family that weekend. Shame, though: I love the sea.
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>>160373395
Did you guys see that fucking fight out in the hall the other day?

One of the fuckers casted A Call Beyond, I shit you not
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>>160373395
Gardening in the Forbidden Woods
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> he wears the uniform with the cape

How embarrassing, only tryhards like Laurence wear the cape, Micalosh is the only person I've seen who can pull it off, but he's crazy. I caught a glimpse of his scrapbook once, lots of drawings of animals with different animal's heads.
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Has anyone seen those weird hooded guys that Professor Micolash has been seen talking to? They give me the creeps...
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Did somebody bring their fucking dog to class?

I keep hearing some howling in the building.
No dogs allowed, faggots. Willem said it a thousand times.
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I said before that I don't want a sequel but after the 10th playthrough it's hard not to
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Guys, i'm pretty sure the sedative that the nurse administers is blood. Like actually just blood, not mixed with anything.
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>>160375184
Yeah, and since they arrived some weird shit has been going on.There was a new guy who went missing last week and I swear the last time I saw him it was when they took him behind the school after class
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>>160375381
BLOOD NOOOOOW
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>>160374782
Fucking hell man. He did a sweep attack going backwards into me and I died at 60% of my hp bar left what crap.
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Somebody help me kill the crowcunt at cathedral ward, I have no vials or poison knives left and all he wants to do is parry me every fucking time when he has absolutely no fucking health
Pass is bbg
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>>160375587
What boss are you on and what level are you?
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Someone post that arcane guide pls
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>>160375587
I didn't see that, but damn

Sorry about that, I was doing disgusting damage to them, I wish you had gotten the echoes

Want to run through your world now?
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>>160375672
You don't know how summoning works, do you?

>>160375731
Read the fucking OP you mong
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>>160375672
Nevermind, APPARENTLY I CANT SUMMON HERE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160375685
I was in someone else's world and I'm level 59 at the moment.
>>160375758
It's okay and yeah we can do a run through mine.
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>>160375672
You can't summon for him, technically all the bosses are dead in that area and he doesn't count as a boss. You can cheese him by drawing him down the steps of the cathedral and to the doors, he can't actually leave the building so you can cheese him with a long range weapon.

>>160375731
Here ye go, famicus
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>>160375765
Right sorry
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>>160375184
I heard rumours that Micalosh somehow got a grant to begin construction on an entire villiage, but it's all top secret. Maybe these hooded blokes are involved with that?
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>>160375685
Nope I'm level 51 my bad. It was some boss in the Forbidden woods.
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>>160375876
What's the pass my man?
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>>160376108
Same as before kos
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>>160375939
Thank you kind person
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How many hot girls do you think you've co-oped with before /bbg/?
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>>160376174
have you gone full broccoli mode since you got the kos parasite?
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>>160375984
That guy running an entire village? I'd hate to see what goes on there.
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>>160376274
I'm a hot girl (male) and I've done a load of co-op.
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>>160376278
I hear that the contractors are rushing to get it done that people are falling into the wet cement and shit and they're just building around them anyway. Like they're actually building people into the walls and shit.

Probably just a spooky story, but god, could you imagine?
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>>160376343
Same, but I just started co-oping recently since I only bought the game about a month ago.
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>All these Church weenies going to school
>Nobody following the path of the Hunter
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>>160376343
>>160376643

Post pics or you're full of shit.
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>>160376670
That guy Ludwig came around to my section of town yesterday and was trying to recruit regular townsfolk for the next hunt, he even offered them armor. Seems like a nice enough guy if a bit overzealous
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>>160376275
I've got the Milkweed, but the parasite does very little damage. I underestimated this, wanted to do an arcane brawler type guy, but it'll need some beefy arcane gems.
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Post your favorite enemies.
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>mfw i posted that byrgenwerth college question expecting 1 or 2 (you) at most
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Where does the PS4 save screenshots there's an item I don't know how to get as it's around a bend I don't see.
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>>160378213
Look in the PS4 home screen for Capture Gallery, screenshots are sorted by game and all
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>>160378170
Bravo Anon. it was well received
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>>160378170
byrgenwerth /vg/ meet when? Leaving class rn anyone else want hit up the cafeteria and kick back with some blood cocktails?
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>>160378038
A classic.
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>First day at Byrgenwerth college
>Got my student's uniform fresh, clean and ready
>Got my cage fit perfectly on my neck
>Even decorated my notebook with +12% memory bloodgems for good measure
>College is full of Byrgenerds and a couple of Yharnam jocks playing football with a beast's head
>Faggot emo vampire kids drinking blood behind the college's graveyard
>Enter Caryll's rune transcription 101
>Have to sit beside this choir qt of silver hair
>Become self-conscious about cage on my head
>Start sweating silver bullets
>Messengers start fucking creeping out and offering me Yharnam porn subscriptions
>Spaghetti out of the class and sprint the fuck home

Well, there go my grades, lads
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>>160378170

Bloodborne bully game fucking WHEN?

>Choir qts
>Byrgenerds in student uniform
>Literally dozens of subjects from rune etching to pthumerian archeology
>Running around the halls as a Yharnamite jock putting bats into Byrgenerds' cages and shoving them into lockers

Fucking fund it
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>>160378594
>Byrgenerds

My sides have ascended to the Nightmare
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>>160378594

>Messengers start fucking creeping out and offering me Yharnam porn subscriptions

fucking hell, lads
fucking hell
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>>160378594
>>>/Yharnamr9k/
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>>160378594
You get used to it, man.
>be me walking to my next class in the right wing one day after lunch
>fucking Golden Pinhead gang members are chasing some Vileblood guy for straying into their territory
>they're holding wheels
>fucking wheels
>they mash the poor fucker to goop
>Bunch of other Vileblood gang members show up
>it's a fucking brawl
I just noped the fuck out of there. Fuck these gangs
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Autism
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>You will never earn enough points for a Cainhurst scholarship
>You will never get into a class full of choir qts studying advanced arcane knowledge

At least i'm not a dirty Yharnamite peasant
>mfw Byrgenwerth janitor calls me a plague ridden rat on my first day
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Anyone wanna help with Micolash?
Pass is bbg
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>>160379205
>Cainhurst scholarship

Yharnigger it's a castle full of shitty nobles, not a school
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>>160379205
>try to walk over the floor a janitor is mopping
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>>160380080

>Implying Cainhurst doesn't have the biggest libraries
>Implying ghost bride waifus aren't best waifus

0/10 go see principal Logarius after class
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I hear Groundskeeper Gherman keeps a life sized Doll in his shed.
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>>160380541
It's no joke. I wandered into his shed by accident on my first day and saw that thing there.

Gehrman wasn't even being secretive about it. He just winked.
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>>160380541

>that kid who constantly lied about the Gherman's doll actually moving in the shed
>that kid who kept coughing up beast blood pellets
>that kid who ran with his arms flopping around in P.E. like he had a milkweed rune
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>>160380764
>that one time a Brainsucker was spotted nearby and the entire campus was put into code red for the whole day
Fucking wild
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>This thread
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Anyone have good tips for a skill/tinge build? What's best to start out with, scion, veteran, or professional?
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>>160380965
> Go into the library to study
> Only one seat left.
> mfw right next to upperclassman Yurie
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>>160381317
Scion.

Stick with saw spear or Rifle Spear early on. If you can manage to cheese Simon for an early Bowblade, you're golden.
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>>160381446
Any leveling recommendations? Recommended tinge, skill, and strength numbers?
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>>160381593
Crank SKL/VIT until you've gotten your final weapon. Once you've got the Chikage or whatever else you want to use, then you can start investing in BLT.

This will make your life easier. Also, if you're going for Bloodletter, replace SKL with STR obviously.
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>>160381702
I'd recommend going for 30 STR if Bloodletter so you can use the gatling gun and cannons. Especially because you don't want to be stuck ONLY using tricked mode with Bloodletter.

If it's Chikage or Bowblade, it's okay to go for something more like 20-25 SKL. I prefer more though, but that's just me.
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>>160380370
>implying vilenerd shits aren't the worst little bitches in Byrgenwerth
>implying it wasn't a vilenerd who stole that blood and took off
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I swear to god mate, this fucker in his tower that keeps shooting at me is a fag.
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I need help guys

>professor Laurence tells me to stay after class
>says he needs me for experimentation
>k
>shoots some weird red medicine shit into my arm, nothing wrong with that I guess
>that was 3 days ago
>now I'm starting to grow hair in weird places and have very vivid hallucinations
>not only that, but all the black church chads won't stop looking at me weird
What the fuck is happening to me? Am I going to die?
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>page 6

pls
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>>160382204

>Letting professor "fuck my blood up" Laurence inject weird shit into you

Enjoy shitting lava and turning into a cleric beast reskin, m8. You could try and flirt with a healing church nurse qt and get into the upper cathedral ward so they can heal your shit.

But for the love of god don't go to the college infirmary. Fucking Iosefka is batshit crazy and smells like rotten phantasms
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Which bb enemy would you fug?
I want to get fucked by the blue eyed werewolves in upper cathedral ward
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>>160382510
The brainsucker is an asian's best nightmare
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>>160382494

>tfw cut myself trying to snipe some rats during recess
>fucking Iosefka tries to turn you into an ayy lmao in the first fucking week of school
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Fire saw spear
Bolt Church pick
Arcane... I need a weapon senpaitachi.
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>>160381391
>took Trick Weapon class my third year
>had this golden helmet faggot in my class
>our final project was to make our own weapon
>we all had two weeks to get it done
>everybody works diligently during class, except the Executioner guy, who was a known slacker
>fast forward to day of presentation
>that morning, as I'm coming into campus, notice one of the professors grumbling about about his wagon being fucked up
>whatever.jpg
>continue to class
>everybody is presenting their work, pretty good all around
>Executioner's turn to present
>he pulls out
>a
>fucking
>wheel
>starts mashing it around a bit
>we're all confused as fuck.
>professor breaks out into fucking applause
>says it's a marvel of a weapon, the most unique thing he has ever seen
>Executioner looks smug as fuck
>mfw I find out later on that he slacked off and waited till the last minute
>literally stole a professor's wagon wheel and presented it to class
>and got a fucking passing grade
>it ended up becoming a staple Executioner weapon and was nominated to represent them
What the fuck is wrong with this school
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>>160382786
Arc-cane.
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>>160378594
>cage
>Byrgenwerth

Fuck off
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>>160382510
Sluggirls from the Hamlet.

Only right answer.
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>>160382786
Tfw wasted points in str for tonitrus and it's actually a shit arcane build weapon
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>>160382510
Snailgrills
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>>160382938
>and it's actually a shit arcane build weapon
should be
>and it's actually a shit weapon
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This is the best kind of autism
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>>160382827

>working into a pizzacutter project for trick weapon class
>it's hard as fucking nuts
>end up just bringing my modified cleaver with tempering bloodstones

Got a C, I'll take it
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This thread is fucking gold, I love you all
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>>160383017
New ideas of a higher plane.
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>>160382827
my fucking sides
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>This entire thread
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Post the worst three weapons you wasted Chunks on

>Logarius Wheel
>Beast Claw
>Holy Moonlight Meme
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I'm 26 strength right now at level 51 where should I stop with strength or should I shoot all the way to 40+?
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>>160379046
>/yhar9k/
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>>160383872
>HMLS
>Meme

Beastly idiocy.
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Been playing Bloodborne for a while now.
Really feels like the first time I played demon's/Dark Souls.
Witch of Hemwick had me sweating bullets even though I killed her on the first try.
Love the weapons, even though only 1 caters to my Strength build so far.
The areas are huge, really well-designed, and feels like a better, fresher DeS.

Should I buy the DLC before or after finishing my first play-through?
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>>160384320

Buy that shit famygdala. Bloodborne's DLC is a fucking ride. It is one of the best experiences I've ever had on playstation. Together with the base game, it's just unforgettable.
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>>160384320
Before
The DLC is like Artorias of the Abyss, easily the best parts of the game
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>>160384320
The DLC is god tier, some of the best bosses and weapons, it's essentially an entirely separate thing, too, so you can dive in now or in NG+ or a new character.
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Anyone wanna fight Ebrietas with me? Pass is bbg
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Could someone please tell me which fucking nigger keeps knocking shit over? Anytime I walk into the library the books are scattered fucking everywhere, hell, my slugs 101 class pretty much has to sit on the ground now because all the spare chairs have been broken.
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>>160384582

>2016
>Attending slug 101

I bet you expected to meet some snailgrills too. Fucking baited
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>>160384551
What BL?
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>>160384775
72
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>>160384842
Alright, ringing in a moment at fog
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>>160384664
S-shut up, all the choir qt's are into slugs.
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Jesus fuck Great One Nomenclature IV is kicking my ass. Why the hell is Kos pronounced with an 'm' sound at the end of it? I'll never understand this shit.
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>>160384880
Thx anon
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Need help with Lower Loran layer 2 abhorrent beast
Pass bbg
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>>160385082
No worries

Creative character, heh
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>See the qt Cainhurst Uni dean Annalise visiting between classes
>Pulls me aside
>Tells me she wants to "corrupt my blood"

What does this mean bros? Am I in or what? Am I gonna get my dick wet with this milf?
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>>160385125
On my way.
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anyone can give me a hand with Cainhurst's boss?

Want the wheel, bl 52
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Anyone want to help me kill Blood Starved Beast?
Pass bbg
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>none of you fags will ever get to do field research with Professor Micolash
>none of you will ever chat into the wee hours, discussing new ideas of the higher plane

Aah, being a grad student has its perks.
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>>160385125
If someone who hasn't accessed that yet rings the bell can I join you also?
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>>160385387
On my way
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>>160385390
I'll help >>160385390 and then >>160385387. About to ring at BSB fog
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>>160385531
does it help if i put a password ?
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>>160385557
What weapon was that you had my friend?
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>>160385387
>>160385531
>>160385557
>>160385649
pass bbg, ringing at lamp
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>>160378789
I need this in my life.
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>>160385649
Was that you that I just helped? becuase Logarius got triple penetrated
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>>160385856
Saw Spear. It was the gems that shredded him though
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>>160385949
nope
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>>160380080
No shit.

But Cainhurst is a place of nobility and lots of wealth, they give out a few scholarships each year to reward academically gifted Yharnamites attend college.

Ever since those Exevutioner guys started protesting against them the Cainhurst nobles have been trying to improve thier public image by doing some philanthropy stuff. But it hasn't worked, and I hear Mr Logarious and his legions of cone head follows are planning on actually visiting the castle. I don't think it's going to end well.
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>>160386012
Well im ringing again, is there a password?
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got Charmaine for Logarius, spot for one more
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somebody post a fire gem guide pls
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>>160386241
Early game gems or endgame fire weapon setup?
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hunter's axe feeling shit at 30 STR anyway I can improve the damage more than the three physical gems I got on it?
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>>160386320
Endgame at this point, since Rom is the next story boss.

I need some good fire gems that give more than 10%

and I do mean FIRE. Not Lightning or Arcane. Maybe I'll use those on a different weapon for fire-strong enemies, but not my main weapon.
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>>160386443
How many Chalice's have you done?

If you have defiled Ptumuru open, cooping to kill Hotdog will get you some very good Cursed Radial Fire Gems. Otherwise you can farm the skinny dudes with Fire daggers/Halbards in Lower Pthumuru or Lower Hintertomb for decent radials/triangles. Likewise in Loran waning fire gems drop all over the
shop, but if you farm a Madman with a flaming weapon you could potentially get 18-19% +20 flat fire. Even better if you get to Lower Loran.

Once you reach actual endgame what you want is a Lost weapon (one gem slot of each shape) and either 1-2 Cold Abyysals, a Fire 27% and maybe a Hotdog Abyysal or a red-aura Madman gem depending on your weapons. But you need to have cleared Mensis to even unlock the Chalice's needed to unlock the glyphs for that stuff.

If you list your build and what weapons you intend on using I could show you how to work out the best possible setup.
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>>160387002
I've killed hotdog is a fire gem any good for specific places?
I got a 13% fire gem so far.
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I just got bloodborne and I am getting absolutely rekt by the blood starved beast even though I'm a souls veteran
Is it just me or is he actually pretty hard? (if you don't cheese him with blood cocktails that is)
Also having to farm healing items again what the fuck were you thinking Miyazaki
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>>160387317
Literally dodge left
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>>160387317
Just get behind him, you don't even have to roll/quickstep

And be sure to backstab him when he goes to drop a poison cloud in phase 3
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>>160387002
>Sinister Isz Root Chalice for a Lost Ludwig

yeah that's a ways off
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>>160387181
There are multiple Hotdog's in the dungeons (potentially infinite if you keep doing Root dungeons).

Gem quality is determined by Chalice Depth. Hotdog is first found in a depth 1 dungeon, but he also drops a Depth 2 chalice, if you explore this chalice you will get higher rating gems than the first, and then you get a depth 3 chalice etc..

If you can reach Depth 3 (Lower Pthumuru) then that's where gems start getting actually good. There's no Hotdog in the preset depth 3, but there is guys that drop Fire Gems you can farm as much as you want.

If you've killed Amygdala and also gotten enough Ritual Blood (4) you can reach Ailing Loran Chalice which has lots of fire waning gems. After fully exploring Loran and also beating Lower Pthumuru you can make the defiled chalice. Which is a bitch to complete but also has good gems and hotdog on layer 2. This hotdog drops 20+% gems, and if you helped people with him by cooping you could amass a small collection of these gems.
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>>160387751
So where do I go to find some good Lightning gems then?

It's gonna be a little fucking difficult to farm hotdog with a FIRE WEAPON
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>>160387317
You can avoid basically every attack why going left around him, it sounds like a meme, but just try it

And if you're running out of vials, you're doing something wrong somewhere, enemies tend to drop more than enough, a good indicator of trying a new strategy is 'why the fuck am I running out of vials'
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>>160387847
Bolt and Arcane gems are a pain to get.

The last area of the DLC has good bolt gems, and Ailing Loran Chalice also has decent ones (only Waning shape though).
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>>160388073
>only waning
not if you grind enough!
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>Played the game again yesterday after many months
>Getting 70%HP'd by bosses

Uhhhhh time to learn how to think again
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>>160387317
>even though I'm a souls veteran

Now here's the problem with being a Souls veteran.

All the Dark Souls games are easy. Not just in comparison to this, but in general. Bosses are large, slow, telegraph their every move, have a huge wind-up and cooldown before/after every attack and have incredibly obvious weaknesses.

BSB is the first boss in Bloodborne that really gives a Souls veteran trouble because he's the opposite of that. He's fast, vicious, doesn't let up, and doesn't telegraph his attacks for very long at all (compared to other bosses) before committing. He's a stark contrast to the Cleric Beast which is more Dark Souls in its design, and can hardly be compared to Gascoigne as he's not a human-like enemy.

You need to re-evaluate how you play the game, what kinds of risks you're taking and how good the reward is for those risks. Don't fight him like he's a Souls boss, fight him like he's a goddamn unpredictable wild animal.

This is something you should take to heart, because there are many bosses ahead of you that will give you even more trouble due to their erratic patterns and BSB is just the beginning.
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Anyone wanna go through the dlc with me?

Ill be at the first lamp ringing.

Password is 'bbg'
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>>160388460
So many people have helped me, I think it's time I try to pay it forward.

I'll be there in a minute.
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>Get stuck fighting Rom the spider
>His little shits aren't affected by my weapons at all and I deal no damage
>Take 60% of my hp bar in one shot
what the fuck is with this game and why is this happening now?
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>>160382510
Keeper of the Old Lords

I don't care if they are an incorporeal fire spirit bound into a lattice armor of ash, they walk the walk that my cock would rock
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>>160388945
Hit the spiders in the butt, their heads have like 90% damage reduction.
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>>160389173
Oh I'll have to try to get around them then if that's the case is Rom the same?
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Bad timing with the dodge against the squid dwarf
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>>160389482
Look at Rom's face, it's a goddamn boulder.

>>160389579
I just realized I'm wearing the vileblood rune because the last thing I did was kill NPC hunters

I was wondering why the fuck I was purple.
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>>160389820
>take care of spiders hit him once
>He just spawns more
>Get behind him and deal a good amount of damage
>Just spawns more
I eventually got stuck between his fuckface and ten spiders at once. What a wonderful boss fight.
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>>160389482
Some weapons are fast enough that you can hit their underside after staggering them first, like the threaded cane or saif
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>>160390383
Rom's bost stomp attack killed me because it has a rather large AoE what a pain in the ass.
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>>160367250
Looking for a hardcore memer to help me with Logarius, no pw just ringle ur dingle outside the boss arena
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Meet me at the 2nd lamp in hunters nightmare
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>>160390725
> no pw

Why? Just why? It takes a total of 2 seconds to make one and without a password you arnt garunteed to even connect with someone from here. Or if they are out of level range you won't connect at all.
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>>160391013
Alright then, I'll set the password as: logarius
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>>160390331
Rom spawns a fixed number of spiders each time she teleports (even if the animation is interrupted) and she teleports 3 times, so that's 30 spiders to deal with.

If you can deal enough burst damage just ignore the spiders and beat the shit out of Rom until she's dead. If you don't, kill all the summoned spiders each time she teleports.

>>160390554
Her magic after her third teleport gets to be quite bullshit. You can't outdodge it so get used to running around the arena.

>>160390923
Is that you moonman
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>>160391145
Yus
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The NPC hunters in the nightmare are absolutely savage.

Ridiculous reach and damage with their main weapons on top of bullshit guns that do entirely too much damage and are almost guaranteed to hit unless you hide behind something.
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>>160391326
trick is going there late and steamroll their shit
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>>160391145
Oh fuckiing boy also Rom is female?
It's hard to tell since the uhh.. transformation.
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Bro you may want to find someone else for Ludwig. I had enough trouble with him myself last night, and that's without my health being downscaled.
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>>160391610
I almost got him myself damn, I ran out of bloos vials though.

Anyone else wants to join against Ludwig?
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why do people say that the beast cutter is a "regrettably inelegant" weapon? it takes some finesse to handle a chain-based weapon like that
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>>160392106
Because it's literally a giant slab of iron that you use to crush beasts. If I tied a bunch of metal hunks to a chain and beat someone with it, would you call that elegant?
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>>160388378
Bb and souls difficulty are about the same, bb just plays differently and is more aggressive focused over souls methodical approach

The soulsborne games aren't designed around difficulty, difficulty is left for the player to control. You decide how easy or hard the game is
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pls dump webms
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>>160392650
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>>160392496
>If I tied a bunch of metal hunks to a chain and beat someone with it, would you call that elegant?
depends on how fancy you threw it around
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>>160391914
Still want help?
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>>160393058
Yeah, give me a second, i went to take a shit while I was waiting, password will be 'bbg'
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>>160393124
Gotcha, ringing
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> Chalice Knights are cyclops with one large centered eye on thier head

What does it mean? Arnt they Pthumerian like everything else down there?
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>>160393550
That's just a hole in their mask
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>>160393495
Wow, I dodged right when he landed
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When should I delve into my first chalice dungeon?
I beat doggy lady Amelia and am level 33
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>>160393845
Dodging that jump can be abit of a toss-up at times.
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>>160393762
THAT FLAIL, THE FLAIL HUNTER, WE'RE NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO USE A FLAIL IN BLOODBORNE OR DARK SOULS
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>>160394171
I'd care about this if flails weren't shit.
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>>160394171
I can throw you around does that count?
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>>160394171
MUH FLAYUL!

FRIEDE
BRING ME MUH FLAYYYYYYYYYYYYYUL
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>>160394014
Thx for the help anon
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am I kawaii
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>>160394509
Always a pleasure to help
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https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/5daloq/for_anyone_interested_heres_a_chalice_dungeon/

I'm been waiting for this for a long ass time. Bastards are the biggest barrier for FRC Root generating.
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>>160394523
No, sorry anon. That hair colour doesn't go with anything at all. The face is a nightmare.
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>>160394523
In a word, no.
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>>160394741
>That hair colour doesn't go with anything at all

It goes with the damn wig. It's the ONLY hair color that goes with the damn wig.
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>>160394656
>linking to reddit
i think you can get banned for that.
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>>160394829
Fuck off and grow up.
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does anyone have any *unzips katana* webms?
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>>160394450
Fuck that shit, literally a whip with a club moveset
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>>160394804
You couldn't have chosen a warmer colour? See how the muted browns in the clothes and skin mesh well? Even the white of the sleeves is good--it visually breaks up the form into something cohesive, lining the collar as well.

The eye is a bit too warm. Over-saturated just slightly, and that, with the warmth of the skin really makes the ashy hair stand out terribly. It's distracting and doesn't at all help your colour balance.
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>>160394921
Sorry, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to hang out with your mature reddit friends L^:
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Can you reach the very topmost level of the Research Hall once you've changed the position of the rotating center pillar with the stair cases? Turns out I forgot to grab a Brain Fluid while I was up there, and I'm totally lost as a result. Damn place is a maze.
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>>160395120
I'm a better fashionista than you, get ye gone with this high school level color theory bs
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>>160395207
You never lose access to anywhere.
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why do the Hunters cover their weapons in bandages?
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>>160395289
Sure, let me hear your argument. I'd like to hear you defend your character.
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>>160395426
Okay, thank god. I was terrified that I'd just fucked up my Arcane build completely by forgetting to grab the Brain Fluid. I just need to find my way back up there now.
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>>160395436
For grip.
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Can somebody tell me what the difference is between FLAC and 320?
Im talking about the OSTs linked in the OP
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>>160395491
you're not gripping the saw cleaver by the teeth famalam
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>>160395559
There are bandages on the handles of weapons too. Anon's not wrong.
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>>160395436
Because when you have a ridiculous shaped weapon and you can't sheathe it, you wrap bandages around it to protect it.

Better question is why the good hunter is too lazy to take them off.
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>>160395463
My argument? My DEFENSE?

Here's my argument:
I think the outfit is pretty damn classy and her hair doesn't detract from it at all you FUCK.

You don't change your hair color every time you want to change wardrobe, damn.
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>>160393762

>Official Artbook

Got a download link for the whole thing? Been looking for a while.
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>>160395710
Have
you
considered
reading
the
fucking
OP
?
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>>160395797

Thanks, anon.
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>>160395436
I thought it was for soaking up blood
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>>160395616
well obviously putting bandages on the handles make sense, I was wondering why they strapped them all over the blades as well
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>>160395685
>You don't change your hair color every time you want to change wardrobe, damn.
Except that this isn't real life. As in, you now have a conscious decision from a design standpoint to create something you feel is appealing.

That being said, in real life, certain clothes work better on different bodies, skin colours, hair colours, etc. It's all about how the design is considered, how the colours work together, how the clothes are meant to form the body, etc.

>I think the outfit is pretty damn classy and her hair doesn't detract from it at all you FUCK.
Cool. Where's your argument, though? It had better not have been everything I just replied to above.

Anon, playing a fashionista 3DS game doesn't mean much. That isn't a defense. At the very least, with more awareness of fashion, I'd expect you to offer a better argument. You've disappointed me.
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So who wants to go through the research hall and then bully lady maria?

Ill be at first lamp and if one of us dies somehow, just ring back at the lamp.

Password is 'bully'
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>>160396118
To protect the blade from wear and tear and chipping and shit while not in use.

You know, all the things you use a sheathe for that aren't holding your weapon when you don't want to.
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>>160396210
bro fashion isn't a math or logic thing, it's about how things make you feel

if I like an outfit, that's good fashion

if you disagree you're just, like, autistic or something
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>>160396220
on my way
>>
>have never played BB before
>read a tiny bit of it, really
>go to halloween party at a friend's house
>he has a ps4 and BB
>it's on PS+ or something so no online
>bored out of my mind, so I load up BB
>make a character
>don't bother with sliders and wanna try bloodtinge
>start playan
>almost kill the beast as soon as you start, but die
>not too angry about it, game's just begun and I saw that you're not really mean't to kill it with your fucking fists
>go to hunter's dream
>get cane/pistol
>get out of the dream after about 10 minutes of wondering how the fuck i get out
>realize i am fucking retarded and should put the game down
>keep playing
>AWAY AWAY
>sweet, this isn't too bad
>axe guy kicks my shit in
>can't keep echos or spend them on anything meaningful
>eventually just run past everything, since it just wastes vials anyways
>get to boss beast
>use molotovs and vials to kill it, not too hard but it did use all my vials
>friend ends up commenting on how i make it look really easy
>???? reply that the game is not too difficult it just promotes a different style of play
>eventually manage to get the hunter's outfit along with some saw weapon which is much better than the shitcane
>end up having to leave because my ride arrived

what am i in for if I head back over there?
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>Fighting Ludwig like usual
>This time however, my little 2 year old niece is watching
>Kill him and he fucking explodes
>She goes "where did it go?!" doing literally this: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>I don't like saying edgy stuff around her like "death" "kill" etc, so I go "Uhhh he fell down"

>Go talk to Ludwig's head
>He goes nuts and does the horse thing
>"Why is he crying?"
>"Because I made him fall"
>"Poor monster, don't cry"
>"Even in this darkest of nights, I see...the moonlight..." [BREATHING INTENSIFIES]
>"Is he alseep?"
>"Y-yeah"
>"Good night monster :)"

Goodnight sweet prince ;_;7
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>>160396210
>Animefag disappointing someone
Wouldn't be the first time they've heard that
>>
Spending your every waking moment wishing you were hunting beasts and missing the euphoria of the hunt
>>
just beat bb for the first time, time to do an arcane build playthrough. Did not expect gehrman and mp to go down that easy, you guys weren't kidding when you said the dlc was way harder than the base game.
>>
Holy fuck, I'm so stupid. It turns out the "well hidden mystery path" I thought I was missing to get back to the top of the Research Hall was a fucking open pathway on the left side of the floor with lab room 5.
I'm so embarrassed right now.
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>>160396590
So about that, gotta loooong ways to backtrack
>>
Good god I am sorry, do you wnat me to ring infront of the failures fog?
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>>160395542
FLAC is lossless, 320 I'm assuming isn't. It's an audio quality/compression thing, FLAC, I believe, is better, but has a larger filesize.
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>Played Bloodborne on launch after playing every souls game since Demon's
>Wasn't a huge fan
>Didn't play for a while
>Came back after the DLC
>Started to love it, played through it a couple times
>Drop off
>Play DaS3
>Like it at first
>Realize over time it's the worst souls game
>Finally come back to BB


Ahh, you were at my side, all along...
>>
>>160396617
One of the best games of recent years, you'll eventually desire a PS4 and the game and you'll be in the dream with us.
>>
>>160397950
I gotta get some blood vials from the shop, just ring at the lamp, i dont think itll let you ring on the stairs
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>>160396673
Well, he is actually, you can go up to him and he's breathing peacefully. Kind of surprised she didn't find rapehorse terrifying.
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>>160398118
>rakuyo
shoulda stayed in das3

but shitposting aside we're glad to have you back. it's almost a shame that BB is so good, because it's set such a hard bar for other games to meet, especially souls titles.
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>>160398370
Demon's Souls works for that.
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>>160398118
No...we shall not abandon the dream...
>>
haven't played bloodborne since dark souls 3 came out

has anything interesting happened? any meta changes?

i miss bbg fight clubs but they were basically dead back last march.
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>>160398370
>Rakuyo
I pretty much exclusively PvE and work as a summon, so no PvP shittery here. I tend to use the Burial Blade anyway. I was just using Rakuyo to maximize damage there for a mid-ish level character.

3 is just too reliant on nostalgia for my liking, and the PvP isn't very fun, except for brawls in the arena. It lacks the tools to deal with ganks like BB does
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>>160398287
I beat the failures, now its time to bully.
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>>160398441
>tfw was an xbone fag last gen
>tfw DeS remaster/port never
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>>160398758
>People talk up the boss of the DS3 DLC
>Get to it
>It's just a super shitty rehash of Maria with less health, less damage, an NPC, a passive phase 2, and is generally less dangerous
>>
>>160398356
She's a weird kid, every time I fire up the game and she's watching goes "more monsters!" when I die, as in, she wants to see me smashing more bitch ass beasts.

Although she got scared shitless by my Jason costume this Halloween, I've never seen her scared much by anything on tv, guess she knows it's not real?

Cute kid.
>>
>>160398795
I know that pain, brother, I'd love to play Demon's. Can just about keep PS+ afloat for /bbg/ funtimes, but another console and tracking down a copy of Demon's is out of the question. Is backwards compatability too much to ask for?
>>
>>160399135
Demon's Souls is on PSN buddy, can't you just borrow a ps3? It's seriously a good game, worth checking out.

Also I heard Bloodborne is on sale this weekend? Might we get some shitters to invade again?
>>
>>160398758
Dammit, she bullied me back
>>
>>160399227
>>can't you just borrow a ps3?
>Implying I have friends
>>
Have Living Failures always hit so incredibly, deceptively hard, or am I just bad? One solid hit brings me down to 10% HP. Then again, I also only have 25 VIT.

I know, I know
>getting hit by living failures
>>
>>160399227
>can't you just borrow a ps3?

If I had more than one irl friend I could

Consoles pop up weirdly cheap in thrift stores every so often, I picked up a perfectly functioning OG Xbox for 5 eurodollars, it was a steal. I'm hoping a PS3 pops up the same way.
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>>160399323
They hit bizarrely hard, don't underestimate the retard flail.
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>>160394523
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>>160399550
I mean, they are a boss. They should hurt.
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>>160398475
There hasn't really been anything new metawise. Pretty much everything is still viable with some standouts. We got a maintenance patch sometime ago which did just about nothing. FCs are a little more lively now after being pretty much dead for months. There was a good mix of oldfags and newfags at the last one if that's anything to go by.
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>>160399135
It'd be nice to have something to play on PS4 other than Bloodborne, good game, but not a $500 game.
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>>160399550
What is it with soul games and retard flailing? Ever since the beginning, retard flails have been the most powerful move
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Anyone else wanna join the bully? I think were struggling a bit here.
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>>160398475
FCs are better than they were. The hardcore PvP lads are pretty much still there in full, and new people are showing up again.

It's not like the two months after DaS3 came out where it was like three 'tinge builds circlejerking alone in an empty chalice. It's alive again.
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>>160399796
I think I'm getting some latency; landing parries has been difficult.
Staggering's spotty too.
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>that one time DSP beat 2 (TWO) invaders from /vg/ on stream

You guys suck
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>>160399796
>>160400014
I'll join. BL and pass?
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>>160400014
I usually dont have a problem with her, I just can'y use the chikage well against her, I gotta go fist the pig and get more vials.
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>>160400325
just farm the dude outside Ludwig's for vials. Way easier
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>>160400325
I really hope by 'fist the pig' you mean 'Clear the first room in Ailing Loran and buy 100 blood vials' because if you're actually farming pigs for vials you are suffering needlessly
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>>160400393
Forgot about him, nevermind the pig will be spared
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>>160400393
Not him, but Mensis and Gaol yield at least 6-8 vials (in Mensis even more) a run plus echoes to buy more, corpsebro yields only 5 and negligible echoes.
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>>160400564
but for the corpse you need to to nothing but swing once, maybe twice if you want to kill the witch. It's not as time efficient, but has no chance of failure
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>>160400072
Ringing at maria now
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>>160400786
Forgot to mention, password is 'bully'
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>>160400786
I'll be right there. Just changing runes
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What's the build for the bow blade?
Lost or regular?
What kind of gems?
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Thanks for helping me stand up to Maria lads.
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>>160401160
Regular if you want to use both arrows and the sword form, with 27.2 temperings. Lost if you only want to use arrows with a 31.5 blt offshape radial, triangle and circle gems. The 27.2s are a shitload easier to farm.

>>160401257
No worries
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Is it long to get to Queen Yarnham so I can get the damn trophy?
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>>160399778
Retard strength is a thing.
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>>160401365
How should I split my stats for the regular version?
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>>160401456
It all depends on how much use you'll make from the arrows. 50/25, 25/50 and 40/40 are usually suggested. Each with their own pros and cons. If I was picking from those 3, I'd go 50/25 although the 25 in blt is a bit of a waste.
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>>160401397
From the very beginning of the chalices? A decently long time seeing as how you cant just go through the chalices in order, you have to go to unrelated chalices just to get ingredients for some.
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>>160401397
Hard to say. If you know your shit, what you're going and what you're doing, it can probably be done in a few hours. If you get stuck on a boss or explore a useless side area, it can easily take much longer.
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Uh, guys.

This isn't meant to drop in Depth 3 Pthumuru is it?
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>>160404020
It is.
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Even the best laid plans...
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Final request of the day

Anyone up for Orphan of Kos?

Pass is bbg
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>>160404376
I would love to kick his ass for you if it weren't 2AM and I wasn't literally already in bed.

Maybe tomorrow, if no one else helps you out tonight.
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I am ashamed to admit that for the first time ever, I feel like I need to farm blood vials. I'm on my Arcane build and I'm down to 21 blood vials. Maria's absolutely destroying me.
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>>160404552
>Arcane
>Maria

Auger spam my dude
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>>160404552
One clearing of the Lecture Building 1F lecture room is enough to buy 35-40 Vials.

No shame my dude.
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I've made a guide for anyone looking to start an arcanist character. This guide includes getting a fast +6 +29% Fire ATK UP before Amelia and then transitioning into a both a +9 Fire weapon and a +10 +60% Bolt ATK Up weapon before Shadows of Yharnam in under 3-4 hours.

http://pastebin.com/Mq1Unu6s

If you see anything wrong or if you know of anything more efficient I can pick up hit me up. I
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>>160404376
Nevermind, beat him second try
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>>160382827
kek
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>>160405162
Just two things I'd pick at
>Logarius Wheel available pre-Amelia
Its only available after he's moved near the Forbidden Woods gate. Killing him before he's moved won't drop the badge needed to buy it.

>Bolt weapons
Amy Arm, Reiter, Bowblade and Rifle Spear can't be converted. Amy Arm is in the same boat as Burial Blade and BoM with its arc scaling, and the other three are already split between physical and blt.

Other than those, good job anon.
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BB is slowly becoming my favorite soulsborne game.
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>>160406339
I will update accordingly, thank you.
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>>160400016
>that one time when DSP quit the DLC after Ludwig killed him 60 (sixty) times
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>>160406675
>60 times
I never understood people dying any more that 10-15 times to a boss, are they not learning movesets and just running in, R1ing and hoping for the best?

First try to a new boss you just focus on dodging and observing. Try your hand and see how greedy you can get between attacks.
You'll die to something unexpected like a new move or a phase, in ludwig example 75% hp charge or spit. So now you died but you learned from it. Try two, you're aware of it and now learning it. You're now at phase 3. You don't know phase 3, you die to HITBOXES™ and learned not to stand by his leg when he swings despite the sword being nowhere near you.
Try #4 you win GG, you brag about it on /bbg/
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>>160406957
To be fair, it was NG+ and dsp is awful
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>>160405162
thanks for this gonna try doing fire saw cleaver and bolt uncanny saw cleaver because im boring
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>>160405162
>http://pastebin.com/Mq1Unu6s
Lots of grammatical errors and little oddities, but I guess I won't complain.

I have my own way of doing things already so the guide didn't really tell me anything new, but it's probably okay info for a new player, although I think the section on the DLC bosses is a little dubious, solely because I don't see a new player being able to take them on at such a low BL.

A good Triangle gem early on is the 9% Nourishing from the poison bog between Iosefka's and the Woods.
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is bloodborne's framerate more consistent on ps4pro?
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>>160407654
never tried it on the regular but I haven't noticed any major framedrops so far
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Ahh, Cos
Or some say Cosine
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>>160408075
AHHH, JIZZ

OR SOME SAY JIZZM <3
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>>160405162
wow, thanks for this. Not sure what weapon I should use for my second (bolt). Right now I've cleared the watchdog once, have to get it one more time for the second fire gem. By the way, does it matter that the fire gem it dropped is only 9.5% fire attack? Should I keep killing it until I get 2 10+%?
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>>160408250
Difference is too small to matter, just stick with them and move on.
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>>160408250
9.5% is fine my dude.
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>>160404627
Got no boolets, almost no vials.
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>>160408773
hit the lecture hall or middle loft piggies for 5 mins
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>>160394523
Maybe if you could beat Ludwig.
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>>160408937
but I did
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How good BB gets on the pro?
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>>160408986
60 fps
3 second load screens
its the dream baby
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>>160408986
it runs in 4K at 60fps minimum (uncapped)
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>>160409042
>>160409072
hello, Sony interns
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>want to do chalice dungeons and make OP build
>don't have ps+ so have to hope for best
bleh
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>>160409341
Same here but I have PS+.
What's your op build? I want to make one with 3x arcane kirkhammers.
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>>160405162
While your guide is good, you should focus on physical attributes until later, like, even your guide suggests using physical gems on the DLC. So might as well take the time to grind out the 20.6% and continuing down to Lower Hintertombs and getting the 16.4% +14 flat physical. You can still level ARC or whatever, your damage can come from fire paper/bolt paper and beast pellets.

Shame this is a offline/no PS+ route as if it you had access you could go for Lost Saw Cleaver/Spear instead as Radial - Triangle - Waning is usually better for ARC builds.

There is a Fire Triangle in hamlet directly near Rakuyo well.
There is a Bolt Triangle next to blood rock.

Even after hamlet your physical attack gems will still likely beat out your elemental ones, so kill the lantern for 3x 22.3 gems and move on to completing Ailing Loran, Defiled Chalice, and Lower Loran so you can farm Elder/Descendants for Cold Abyssals.
After cold abyssals your bolt gems might start to edge over your pure physical, but your fire gems need some replacements. Continue with the game until final boss and then clear out the rest of chalice until depth 5 FRC phtu root for cold abyssals and hotdog for fire or FRC lower loran for bolt/fire/arcane

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0

tl;dr just farm for physical atk, ignore fire shit until end game
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>>160409341
Could you explain to me how PS+changes things?
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>>160410216
You can't search for glyphs on PS+ so remaking dungeons for specific bosses/gems can't be done
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>>160410298
ah, thanks
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>>160410298
Without PS+ I mean
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>>160405162
What do you mean uncanny saw cleaver is guaranteed in root? Isn't it random?
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>>160410015
Phys gems will certainly look better on paper than elemental ones for the entire game. That's not the point.

You're disregarding that the player will be leveling their Arcane stat. A set of 20% phys gems with base phys stats will be outclassed by muck weaker elemental gems with enough Arcane.

Also, the reason phys+paper is better against the early bosses is damage ramping via Beast Blood Pellets, and only that reason. It goes right out the window fighting mobs.
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I always forget; does Hypogean Gaol become inaccessible after Amelia or Rom? I want to rush the unzip.

Speaking of, anyone want to carry me through Cainhurts instead of making me wait til I can beat Logarius on my own?
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>>160410607
I think it's Rom
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>>160410607
Hypogean Gaol is accessible after bsb.
Yahurgul, Unseen Village is accessible after Rom.
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>>160410435
It is random, but the loot pool in Depth 1 root dungeons is tiny, I'm pretty sure Uncanny Saw Cleaver is the only weapon that can appear, so the chances of finding it are actually pretty good if you explore an entire root dungeon that you make.
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>>160410607
You want a co-op pal for Cainhurst, right?

Give me a password.
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What's this new strain of autism where people wanting to farm chalice gems so early? The game isn't that difficult to require you to get end game gems before Amelia, I understand she can give you trouble but you can do it...
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>>160399851
Bloodtinge is still everywhere though
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>>160411186
After beating the game so many times and steamrolling your way through chalices it starts to become appealing to do it the other way around.
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>>160411186
You gotta spice it up.
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>>160411186
> The game isn't that difficult to require you to get end game gems before Amelia, I understand she can give you trouble but you can do it...
> months later and people STILL arnt getting it

It's not about needing gems because Amelia is hard, she's actually the boss I've died to least in my entire time with this game. And the stuff you have to kill to farm these gems and get early runes/weapon varients is much harder than Amelia herself (Chalice Rom is 50% more beefed up than regular Rom, and you can do her before Amelia).

It's an interesting way to play the game, to see just how much stuff you can do before Amelia. And it has to be Amelia because she is the bottleneck that seperates the game into two halves. You can't get Chunks before Amelia, you can't reach Depth 4 dungeons before Amelia, you can't do the DLC before Amelia. This means the traditional ways of becoming powerful arnt avalible to you, but if you go to effort of exploring Depths 1-3 Chalice's you can end up with 20.3% Physical Radials, 16.5% +14.9 Physical Triangles, a bunch of Uncanny Weapons, a bunch of low tier runes (+ 100 poison/rapid poison/frenzy resist) and even Great One Coldblood.
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What a fucking shit gem.
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>>160410607
You still there, guy?

>>160410863
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>>160411186
I find the game after Shadows/Rom to be excruciatingly boring. The only reason I replay this game is for the DLC, I like to prepare and plan for fightning Ludwig, Kos, and the like after Amelia. I could prepare by grinding souls, but that shit's boring. I'd rather prepare by getting OP gems and shredding bosses.
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>>160411793
Damn
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>>160411793
That's Lower Pthumuru fire weapon mobs, right?

It should go up to 16.5% (rating 12) and if you care about secondary effect ATK vs Open Foes is the best, flat physical will do almost nothing because you end up splitting your damage so the +8 flat damage gets hit by the enemies physical defense all by itself, leading to a total of 1 actual damage.
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>>160412250
Central Pthumeru is where I got it, actually.
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>finally get home after a long, stressful day and night of work
>all I could think about was how badly I wanted to just get comfy and play Bloodborne
>boot up PS4
>snuggle up under my blankie
>can't fucking play because I have to wait half an hour for my shit Australian internet to install an update
>mfw
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>>160411793
Rathalos is worst monster
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>>160412305
Ah ok, then 13.5% is the best you will get from Centeral Pthumuru.

Once you reach Lower Prhumuru I'm pretty sure there's a spot with 3 fire-mobs in the pre-lamp bonus area of layer 1. I remember farming there on my Arc build to get decent fire gems.

If you've already reached Byrgenwerth the eye rune from Willem helps a lot.
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>>160410607
When I looked at that thumbnail, I thought it was a giant, flaming torso version of Scorpion from Mortal Kombat
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>>160412458
You are a saint.
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>>160412371
I've just been using the name a lot recently. I had to pick a name for my character in an Otome and couldn't think of anything "fitting" and somehow I managed to put in RATHALOS as the name.

And for the last few months now I've been using it for characters in singleplayer vidya. And Bloodborne.
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>>160410863
I still had to kill Amelia, get the Summons, and clear Hemwick, but I'm at Cainhurst now if you're still up for jolly co-op.
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What a rude fucking cunt.
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>>160412701
>ghosts climbing ladders
I'll never get over this
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I hate this shit.
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except when it happens on my end, then it's okay
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>>160413027
I know that feel. HMLS is really bad about under-killing.
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>>160414885
This meme is not dead. It has just transcended our reality and is on another plane of existence
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>>160414885
in an alternate cut of the game, Micolash's boss fight is three times longer and at the normal end of it he takes off his cage and it plops to the ground extremely loudly and makes a huge dent to indicate how heavy it was and then he cracks his neck and says "now the real fight begins" then the arena opens up and he rushes at you in the blink of an eye
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>>160415385
I also remember there being a monologue of his where he talks about having played college ball or something.
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>>160412356
I think of the struggles of people with shit internet every day.
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>>160412356
Yeah, its fucking shit. Pray for the NBN to someday get to you and make it less dogshit.
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Would you play a steampunk like BB/DaS game?
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>>160396617
No lie, I just bought a PS4 for this game and so should you. BB doesn't profit from the PS Pro so you can get an old PS4 used for like 150-170$
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>>160415774
Nah, steampunk is played out. Cyber punk is the new hotness.
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Anyone want to carry a BL40 through Logarius? I thought I'd enjoy Reiterpallash more while I fucked around and leveled/gemmed up, but I'm really not digging it. Just want to get to unzipping.
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I'm dying of boredom and could use some echoes, anyone want a co-op buddy?
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>>160416002
The reiter is perfect for taking out Logy solo though.
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>>160416002
Where are you ringing and what's the password, I'll be there in a hot minute
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I'm been fighting micolash for 3 hours. Everytime I've dropped down to fight him he call of the beyonds me as i falling and i eat every single orb in the air
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>>160416093
Cool beans. I haven't actually gotten to Douchbagius yet so if you'd like to meet me at the lamp that'd be cool. Otherwise I'll just book it to him.

Pass can be bbg.
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>>160416147
ringing at the lamp

I'm gonna kill every single ghost in that damn castle
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>>160414885
>tfw you will never die sitting on a fancy chair surrounded by half naked girls
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>>160415385
Oh shit I'm crying
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>>160383872
Gatling Gun
Bowblade
BoM (is there any reason to use these when Rakuyo exists?)
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>>160416447
>BoM (is there any reason to use these when Rakuyo exists?)
Funsies? BoM is pretty stylish and can still do more than just R1 spam. Then again, Rakuyo can also do more than just R1 spam, both weapons just rely on capable hands.
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>>160383872
Tonitrus
Holy Moonlight
Burial Blade
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>>160416485
theres no reason to use anything that isnt saw spear outside funsies
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>>160416245
Sorry, I got stunned by one of the headless bitches.

I'll be ringing at the lamp, you can call me in whenever.
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>>160416545
And funsies is a perfectly fine reason for using anything other than the Saw Spear. Because Saw Spear is boring as fuck.
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Thanks to Arcanist anon, Shadows of Yharnam anon and Amelia anon, I've enjoying making new characters now. bsb -> chalice -> amelia -> chalice -> dlc -> Chalice -> rest of game is so much more fun than just playing normally
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after I have set up my current build for pvp what other builds or runs (I am thinking of pve for them though) can you suggest me that are fun to play?
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>>160416637
What builds have you done so far?
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>>160416637
What've you done so far? I could recommend a heavy STR build with say, the Kirkhammer and/or Beast Cutter. Kirkhammer is underrated and amazing for both PvE and PvP.
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>>160416637
bl4
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JESUS that room is HELL

You get the loot from it yet?
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>>160416554
I can't get back to the lamp without dying again so I'll ring for you at Logi's fog if that's ok?
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>>160416668
>>160416683
Well I mindlessly initialized my ps4 and all my other builds were erased, so currently I am running only one build which is aiming for a 50 str, 25 skill hybrid using kirkhammer, ludwig and saw cleaver. I already did a chikage skill tinge build so I thought of giving arcane a shot, but I am not too fond of farming for more than 3-4 hours, so there is that.
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>>160416447
>Gatling Gun
>Bowblade
Those are decent though.
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>>160416738
I have just saw a speedrun from nortorious or so and I was really impressed by that run. Abusing saw cleaver with paperz and pellets looked very cool. And the funniest thing is going to be twinking other people with that build.
I might try that one out
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>>160416829
99 Arcane and stick to Hunter Tools primarily. The farming isn't that bad, much easier than farming Korean OoS gems. Or 50/50 Str/Skl and use mostly everything.
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>>160416929
99 ARC makes you too squishy if you want to remain within pvp levels though
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>>160417000
40/90 Vit/Arc then, puts you at 116 if you start with Cruel Fate.
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Ok guys what the actual fuck. How do I beat Orphan of Kos?
I can get him to second phase easily, using 1-2 vials, but then it just turns into a goddamn clusterfuck of BULLSHIT and AAAA YOU FUCKER
Seriously second part of the fight is so weird and random I can't even understand what the fuck is happening and just hope for the best.

Any tips? I'm chikage man on ng+ btw
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>>160417068
Use the Bloodletter instead if you're a 50 Blt build, which you should be for the Chikage.
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I'm going through Blood Vials faster than Halloween candy.
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>>160416751
Thanks a bunch m8
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>>160417115
I tried but it's actually worse. But maybe I tried from the wrong end, what's your point exactly?
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>>160417068
He's a little simpler in the second phase. Don't panic dodge and just watch his moves. He jumps around a lot, but the funny thing is that he'll jump away from you as often as he jumps toward you. Stay calm and dodge carefully, to the side when he does that lunge run in the second phase.

When he jumps in the air next to you, count one second and roll. You can hit him as he comes down, but be very wary for a counterattack or animation cancel slam, cause he does that shit. He usually never jumps more than twice at a time.

If he grabs the placenta and jumps, roll in a semi circle to avoid the projectiles and hit him when he comes down.

Be careful when fighting directly in front of him because his projectile toss can fuck you up. If you're in range, try dodging to the side, timing it with your I-frames.

When he slams the ground a couple of times, just backpedal and be wary of a third follow up attack. If you get within a certain range, you can get him to stop the slam with no follow up and hit him a couple of times.

Fight him in the water. You get more space and it's easier to dodge his bolt attack that way.

Good luck, anon. Don't panic dodge. That will be the end of you.
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>>160417138
Yeah, any time!

Sorry about those times I died, I'm not so great at the "don't get hit" part of this game sometimes. It's why I usually level vitality before other stats.
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>>160417274
Dash r1s are nice, I had an easy time with him using it. Probably staggers better than the Chicago and you don't have to keep tricking/untricking your weapon. Reach is good too.
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>>160417117
Git gud
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>>160417310
Thanks, good tips.
I actually don't panic dodge, I got ingame balls of steel from 200 hours and reaching ng+4 with my main char. It's just that I cant figure out his patterns, they seem so random. And his melee attacks are ok, but the main issue is his projectiles, where the fuck does he throw them and why - I don't know. Projectiles kill me 99% of the time

>Fight him in the water
Never tried that, always fought him near the entrance. Will do now!
Thanks
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>>160417645
Yeah, his projectiles are ass. It's best being near his sides or behind him, because directly in front gives you a good chance of getting pelted.

He usually throws them right in front of him, jumps behind you and throws again to trick you into dodging right into it. Try dodging to the side, or back but forward again quickly.
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>>160416623
We are born of the slightly-higher-AR-numbers, made men by the slightly-higher-AR-numbers, and undone by slightly-higher-AR-numbers.

Fear the Rating 12 Cursed Gems
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>>160418252
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>>160417000
Squishy you say? Anyone wanna help a future squid with BSB? Pass is ARC.
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Does anyone know where I can farm 2 Arcane radial gems early in the game? I know there's that one triangular one in Forbidden Woods.

Already have my saw spear infused with 3 fire gems. Now I wanna put some arcane type gems on my cane
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>>160419227
Sure thang. ringing
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>>160419227
Nailed it
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>>160419227
Aww fuck, m8. Did it count?
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>spend all my insight and Madman's Knowledge opening Root Ihyll FRC dungeons
>all 7 of them end in HBLB

Fuck, I wish I had PS+
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Running through Lower Pthumeru if anyone wants to SRRC in.

Password is gggg

at layer two, ringing while spelunking.
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>>160419427
Yeah, no worries. Wasn't expecting that combo
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>>160419562
I couldn't see what happened behind the spraying of my flammenwerfer
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>>160419456
If I am not mistaken you can create new accounts from a specific location that gibe you ps plus for seven days. Just create those accounts and set them on primary.
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Does anyone have the video by any chance that showcases the world of Bloodborne and showing it's subtle design features? I remember seeing it a while ago and i can't find it anymore. I think the description said something about finding beauty in video game worlds.
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>>160419639
That's what killed me, one second he was melting and them I died poisoned.
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>>160419259
Nowhere really outside of CD's as far as I'm aware. Best bet is to rush to Mensis and get the two droplet gems there.
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>>160419259
I been making arcanist guides and sadly there are none outside of dinky arcane gems from kin mobs in forbidden woods (radial/Triangles)
And the nourishing and arcane triangles in forbidden woods to iosefkas
Not really any arcane gems pre-Isz chalice my friend
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Is this one of those doors that opens up later in the chalice? Lower Pthumeru, btw.

>>160419896
So you know a lot about gems...

What's the highest that health recovery goes on gems? They can be slotted on guns and the passive health recovery continues even if your weapon is two handed and it's really useful for a non-BLT character.
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>>160420081
+5 for guns
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>>160420285
Any particular place they can be found semi-commonly?
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>>160420081
>So you know a lot about gems...
quite the opposite, i only researched into fire/bolt/arcane gems you can get before shadows of yharnam because i have autism
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>>160420439
Any glyph with those fireball witches walking around surrounded by a couple of mobs. There's stuff in the OP you could check out for glyphs. I think pwmf22gu has one in layer 1.
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So if someone makes a glyph for something I don't have and I SRRC in, does that mean I'll be able to get the loot from that chalice before I unlock it legit in my game?

Also if that's true can somebody let me SRRC into glyph qtpuhk46 or any other that has a Lake +7% rune in it?
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>>160420845
You can't SRRC into dungeons you don't have the chalice for. And you can't pick up chest loot as a summon.
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>>160420934
well can someone at least tell me what dungeon that is?

Game just says "you don't meet the requirements" and won't tell me what specific dungeon it is.
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>>160421015
You have to complete all the dungeons and create one FRC Depth 5 dungeon to access all glyphs (aside from Sinister glyphs but they aren't commonly searched for). The list of glyphs in the OP should tell you which dungeon it's in, but I wouldn't bother searching for it until you've made it to FRC.
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>>160421173
>You have to complete all the dungeons
Not really. You just need to possess the root chalice.
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>>160421602
>to access all glyphs
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>>160421678
Ok?

You don't, though.
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>>160421750
Unless you're talking about not killing Yharnam, you do.
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>>160421907
That was basically the joke I was trying to make, yeah.
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>>160416623
>>160418252
whut?
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>>160422575
¿que?
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>>160422707
what does he mean
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>>160422847
What do you mean?

What does any of it mean?
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>>160422895
what the fuck is he fucking talking about for fucks sake
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>>160422939
>what the fuck is he fucking talking about for fucks sake
WDHMBT?
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>>160423015
LOOK
>>160416623
>>160416623
WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT WITH ALL THAT CHALICE SHIT
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>>160423086
"Chalice shit"?

Chalices can shit?
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>>160423179
...
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>>160422575
http://pastebin.com/xdd7L37f
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>>160423086
You need more insight to understand, anon.
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>>160423367
this is stupid
>>160423376
your stupid
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>Unzipped for five minutes
>Already bored
Fuck.

Screwing with that anon just now was the most ""fun"" I've had all day.
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i wish beast pellets were free
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>>160423895
See, this is why I fucked with you instead of explaining it.
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>>160424348
you can go back to dsg if ur going to fuck with people tho
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>>160424496
>go back
>Implying I'm not posting in /dsg/ right now

But more importantly
>implying I made the wrong call about that anon, or telling me to go anyway
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>>160424669
u have to go back
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alright gents
first character was a skill build (cane)
currently playing BT (pretty fun, though I have been ignoring chalices so I might start farming soon)
what should I do next? STR, ARC, or both in the same build?
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>>160425129
STR
Quality
ARC
BL4
STR/ARC (why tho unless you usin tonitrus/whee)
Skl/arc (y tho)
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>>160425129
CF:40+/12/10/9/5/50+. From there you could choose to go full Arcane or Str/Arc, latter has more weapon options. 25/12+ Str/Skl if you go that path.
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Farming watchers on FRC ISZ chalice layer 1 can anyone help?
Password bbg

I'm really bad at watchers sadly
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>>160425457
BL?
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>>160425457
I would if I had PS+. Wear Clawmark Runes and parry/visceral them.
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>>160425518
>>160425518
68
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>>160425616
Ew, why?

I guess I'll drop in for a couple though.
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>>160425614
god damn it i use beast claws
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>>160425614
>I would if I had PS+
Why even bother posting? All you do is say "oh how I would love to help you my friend but alas my mother hasn't paid for my ps+ as my grades are currently unsatisfactory so I can't!"

Go away
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>>160425665
?? whats wrong with 68 i got the yarham stone solo
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>>160425709
Oh you're that dude, no wonder you're having trouble. Why don't you parry/visceral again?
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>>160425795
>whats wrong with 68
It's about 30 levels too low.
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>>160425845
Strict role play I know it makes the game harder
but a beast looks dumb as fuck to use a gun
>>160425665
Sorry got one shot i guess that whats wrong with 68
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>>160426029
Well you're pretty much a sentient beast but okay. Blunderbuss looks kinda cool with beastmode though. Tricked R2s and backing away could help.
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>>160426029
Again I got some thrust bull shit I will bring a gun this time.
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What's your FRC rune setup? Lakes to avoid 1-shots? Clawmarks to kill asshole saw spear hunters faster? Eyes for maximum loot? I'm guessing Clockwise is basically useless since your max HP is reduced so low.
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>>160426314
Wow gun made that much easier but i only got a damn fire gem
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>>160426830
Clock-Clock-Anticlock is my go-to for everything.
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>>160426830
Doesn't really matter but if I was planning to parry all Clawmarks, farming for Chunks/Rocks all Eyes. If I'm rushing through Clock, Clock, Anti-Clock, extra Vit can help a bit even in cursed dungeons and it's what I normally run.
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>>160426843
Fucking fire again
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>>160427315
Again plz im so bad
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>>160426830
Clockwise 3 Clockwise 2 and Clawmark for bosses/hunters
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>>160420081
>Is this one of those doors that opens up later in the chalice?
That kind of door is one way only when it comes to opening it. You'll get a chance to come around to the other side eventually.

>>160420081
>What's the highest that health recovery goes on gems
5.

I hope you know you can even get HP Recovery as a secondary effect on a Phys gem.
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>>160427615
This grind is longer then i thought
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>>160427963
Every gem I've gotten has been a Phys 25% or 27%

Don't even care because I'm using an Arc build.

Gotta love that desire sensor.
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>>160428180
i'm only getting fucking fire gems
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>>160426013
>FC is the only thing to do
Co-op and invasions are important. Go above 80 and you;ll be limited to SRRC and Mensis.
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>>160428417
i need you
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>Kinda wanna run that dungeon with 14 Bastards of Loran in it so I can spelunk lots later
>But also kinda wanna play Enter the Gungeon instead

Fuck.
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Wew getting fucked up here. Lag and bad luck are a hell of a combination.
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Playing bb the last 3 days has done more damage to my hands than my entire career of professional knitting.
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>>160428913
Killed em after you died but still need you plz
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>>160429268
Still ringing bruh. Hopefully my connection evens out soon.
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>Lower Loran FRC Darkbeast
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>>160429379
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>>160429497
>>160429379
>Pungent Blood Cocktail: The Boss: The Movie: The Novelization
>Hard

Just bring ten cocktails and toss them all over.
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God I hate this boss
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>>160429371
holu crap its the worst thing in the world when a parry fucking fails and i just r 1 I'm not even sure what triggers it. He is on his knees but i dont do the animation.
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>>160430084
>>160430084
one more then i gotta head to work
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Previous character:
>ludwig done with ease
>logarius runs roughshod all over me

Current character:
>ludwig rapes the shit out of me
>logarius passes into the afterlife with no problems

I just don't know anymore.
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>>160430336
fucking animation glitch man last time plz
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>>160430693
Never mind i gotta go ill try again later last time i got a 26% so maybe ill settle thanks for all the help Inka
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>>160430693
Instead of farming them again for Wanings if you still need to, consider settling for 26.3%s from the lone Watcher in ghkigx8g. Much easier.
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>>160430807
>>160430860
>for Wanings
Radials*.

But yeah, no prob.
Glad you got a 26. I got nothing usable for my purposes.
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Well I tried my best, but I just can't masturbate to the Maria fight.

It's too hard to avoid her attacks and jerk off at the same time, and even with this 99 Vit character I can't get my rocks off before she kills my character.
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>>160419896
> none before Isz

Unless you get really, REALLY lucky. This dropped for me in Lower Pthumeru from a Crossbow Knight.
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>>160425129
50str 25 skl is pretty fun. You get access to most of the weapons and a tiny bit of extra damage for the saw cleaver
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>>160432292
______git gud_____

Seriously though, 2 clockwise runes and lake paired with the loch sheild can make a massive difference. as long as you dont attack and just keep strafing backwards you should be able to get off in time.
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anyone have a good str/arcane wheel build? which starter class also?
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>>160434069
Cruel Fate: 40+/12+/25/12/5/50.
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>>160434209
>25/50
>Wheel
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>>160434314
???
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>>160434383
I don't know. Never mind. I can't really make sense of its doc info.

It would seem that it gets 1.05 Arc scaling, the 50 Arc base damage gets bumped to 150, and it gets an extra flat 50.

But since its base damage is pretty low that doesn't seem too spectacular to base the build around. I guess Nourishing gems would make a difference, though.

Just seems like having the phys would be better.
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>>160434826
Yeah it's for Nourishing gems, tricked mode is best mode but it let's you use the whole Wheel effectively. Plus the revs will get a lot out of it. 25/50 is common for Str/Arc, HMS, Tonitrus, and Boomhammer along with converted weapons and the Kos Parasite can be used. Don't go 30 Strength for the Cannon, with 50 Arcane you're better off using Hunter Tools.
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>>160435129
I stand by my original assumption.

Going from 25 to 50 Arc only bring its base damage from 50+14 to 50+23, so even with Nourishings and the 200% bonus you're looking at a loss of, what, 60 damage?

Those 25 points have got to be better spent on the phys stats. That looks like a gain of 110AR or more.
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Any lorefags about? I've got some ideas about the Moon Presence. Short version, Moon Presence is perpetuating the hunt for sake of collecting Blood Echoes, Oedon is a red herring.
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>>160425753
He doesn't have to go away but he could at least stop saying that. There are two people who don't have PS+ who post here regularly and at one time or another I've offered each to buy them some time if they helped me be lazy by making a build details for me.

So obviously they don't want it bad enough.
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Why did DogGirl Amelia turn herself into a Doggy?
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>>160435383
>I stand by my original assumption.
Wow didn't mean to come on that strong. Thought I typed "I dunno I think I stand ..."
Fucking always hitting that window key.
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>>160435383
Point of 25/50 is to be able to use Hunter Tools and the weapons I mentioned. With 50 Strength you're better off using Blunt gems and sticking to the untricked mode but where's the fun in that without HTs and revving.
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>>160435437
Uh, I gave you my PSN so we could message but you didn't reply back. I'm still willing to help for the PS+. Did you want help going through the game or how to plan out the build with specific gems?
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>>160435437
It's a fucking scary proposition bro.

I want to play FFXIVARR so goddamn bad, well some dude in /v/ straight up offered to buy me the game and pay for a three-month sub a couple weeks ago.

But here's the thing, that's like 40$, and a huge social contract that I just don't have the heart to back out of, in case something goes wrong. What if the dude's annoying as shit? What if I don't enjoy playing? Now I got this dude expecting something from me, and I gotta feel guilty as fuck if I can't deliver.

Taking free shit isn't easy just because it's free.

>>160435649
>With 50 Strength you're better off using Blunt gems and sticking to the untricked mode
But if my numbers are even close to right, full 50 Arc +Norishings only gains 60 Arc damage.
50/25 Nourishings for Wheel seems better. I figure Boomhammer if not Tonitrus would tell similar stories.

But yeah missing out on Tools could suck.
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>>160435953
Iirc the Wheel does more damage than the AR tells, same with Toni. Boomhammer probably does better with 50/25 but my 25/50 does excellent using all those weapons with Nourishings. You could do 50/25 but it's basically a Strength build at that point. Most people would recommend 25/50 here though.
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>>160435863
I never saw the PSN. I was in the thread commenting alongside someone else all night, and even helped someone smash orphan.

Must have glazed over it.

Here's what I need: Stat allotment, where to get the right version of the kirkhammers asap, which ones to use for maximum dps for each element (fire, arcane, bolt)

I can clear the levels and bosses myself, I just can't be assed to do all the planning and minmaxing that I deem needed. So I end up playing another game while I chill here waiting to help someone else.

>>160435953
I don't give stuff away for free for that reason and one other. The last thing most people on 4chan need is free stuff. If you want to help them you need to give them the opportunity to help themselves in small ways.
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>>160435440
Anyone?
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>>160436434
AnemicBeast is the PSN. 16/10 Str/Skl and 50+ Arcane is really all you need. Lost version for Fire/Bolt, regular for Arcane. 2 Cold Abyssals and a Fire/Bolt/Arcane gem, preferably Hotdog/Abhorrent Abyssals or 27.2% Triangles for higher modifiers.
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>>160436409
>Iirc the Wheel does more damage than the AR tells
Yeah allegedly it gets a hidden 200% modifier, but that's what I'm talking about.

At 25 Arc the base damage is 50+14. At 50 Arc it's on;y 50+23.

So even with the 1.617 from three Nourishings and the 2.0 from the hidden arc modifier, the difference is only about 60AR.

If I'm right. I could be dead-ass wrong.
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>>160436792
>I could be dead-ass wrong
I'm forgetting the extra .5 Arc scaling. That could make a little more of a difference.
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>>160436947
From my experience, 25/50 is a monster with Nourishing gems. Haven't tried 50/25 so I can't have a say in that. I'd prefer having 25/50 for the Tools and all the other weapons I mentioned, plus farming Amy for Nourishing Abyssals is way easier with 50 Arcane, Oil Urns and a Fire Stake Driver if you jump cheesed.

I suppose you could aim for 25/25 Str/Arc, acquire the Wheel all set up and savescum before testing 50 Strength or Arcane.
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>>160436601
I don't think anyone turned themselves into anything. I think anyone affected wanted something and got something but it was never what they wanted.

>>160436746
Jesus christ that was concise. On it's way now.
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>>160436947
Actually nvm. That's not the issue.
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>>160437175
>I suppose you could aim for 25/25 Str/Arc, acquire the Wheel all set up and savescum before testing 50 Strength or Arcane.
I'd totally do it if I had the heart to play through and gem it all out.

I was working on a 50/25 but I'm just burned the hell out.

I mean, we know how the numbers work so it's not a mystery. It's just a matter of doing the math.

Now I'm only using MugenMonkey and extremely basic calculations, but all things equal they should bear out the truth of the matter.

If someone actually has a 50/25 getting their first-hand input would be great.
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>>160437176
Just to be safe, I'm from the US so if you're from somewhere else I don't know if that'll render the code useless for me.
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>>160437648
Yeah I checked your PSN account's tag first.
Got a weird knight helmet avatar right? Looks vaguely like Lair game?

I just bought a 3 month on Amazon and it says "Pending Verification" so it made me a little paranoid so I checked my account and funds are there. Amazon just acting weird?
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Which glyph has the Lost Tonitrus?
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>>160437792
Yeah that's the one. I don't have experience with purchasing stuff from Amazon really so I wouldn't know.
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>>160438336
Kos bless you, anon.
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>>160438398
Sheeeit. All these niggas talkin' about Kirkhammers and shit.

Doc says fmkivi7n Lower Loran or 4i5efewz Sinister Lower Loran.
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>>160438551
Ah, thanks.

Can you post the doc? I must've missed it in the OP.
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>>160438686
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848

It's in this patebin: http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv
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>>160437904
Don't know an exact glyph (check the op), but it's Lower Loran Root Dungeons, so if you are the guy making the Arcane guide it's technically possible to have it before Shadows, but pretty impractical. Uncanny Tonitrus is Ailing Loran Root, which is a bit easier to get.

Only lost weapon pre-Amelia is Saw Cleaver I think, but you can have Uncanny Saw Spear, Saw Cleaver, Rifle Spear, Stake Driver and Threaded Cane all before Amelia if you try hard enough.
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>>160438046
>>160437648
>>160436746
It should be in your PSN inbox now.

Offhand do you know an early place to get a lost kirkhammer?
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>you will never beat Mercure in a 1on1

;_;
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Sup guys, anyone wanna coop nightmare frontier and onwards a bit? Currently 84, lovin the game so far.
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>>160442142
aecve32n from Isz root, no extra rites. Dunno if you could have it earlier but it's pulled from the Bloodborne Sheets. Thanks again dude.
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>>160442293
what system? Fuck you
I did it alone at level 2 with a torch

wait...this isn't /dsg/

I can ring right outside of the chapel.
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>Pre-Amelia Guy

Look. Dude. Give it a rest. I have no idea why you're so fixated on this when it's easy to just kill amelia and advance the game further so you can get proper FRC gems. Shit, even Hamlet gems outstrip this nonsense. Why are you so obsessed? Nobody really cares anon
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>>160442905
>people still think its about making amelia easy

Anyway carry on anon, I'm still waiting on that video
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>>160442654
Yeah wasnt on vg for a while and didnt know you guys split from soulsgen so at first I posted on there. Anyways, I rung at the first lantern, pw is bbg as always.
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>>160443078
I know what it's about. It's autistic and fucking pointless and you won't just fucking stop talking about it. You're bringing it up nonstop. PLEASE put your autism towards something more fruitful and meaningful.
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>>160443204
I'm not him but okay.
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>>160443189
I'm ringing now friend with pass on. I'm beast claws.
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>>160443189
Still ringing? I'm down to join you
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>>160443573
>>160443317
Yep, still ringing. No reaction just yet. Currently killed the boulder-golems and in the vicinity. Bell hasnt picked up anything yet.
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Need help with Lower loran layer 3 darkbeast
Pass bbg
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>>160443832
Oops just realized I had my faction rune equipped. Trying again.
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>>160443204
There's like 3 Anons doing a early gem farming stuff now.

I'm the original Amelia guy, and I've deliberately not been posting much because I know it gets obnoxious. All I do is answer questions when people have them and post updates on Amelia thing if I discover something new.

I spent 3 hours farming for inflicted organs yesterday to unlock Fedid/Rotted root dungeons before Amelia. Now I can farm Ritekeepers for early healing gems, and maybes even get rating 13 versions of Lumpy/Clarence gems. Still working on a reliable source for cursed BLT gems, and blindly doing Hintertomb root dungeons until I get the 5% physical damage reduction rune.

If you ever want to check if a post is me or another anon, just look at the spelling. Mine is damn near illegidable at points and often "l's" get replaced with "k's" and "pthurmierans" gets spelled different each post.

but if you hate it so much, it should be done soon, so hang in there another week and this will all seem like a bad dream. although let's be honest, I'll just move into something even more autistic
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>>160444489
I'm in front of amygdalas arena now, still ringing - maybe write via psn - if it doesnt work I'll just solo him and we could do some other areas/bosses later.
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>>160445368
I'm rooting for you, Amelia anon. I'm sure the video will be great. I owe you a lot for those Lumpy/Clarence discoveries--really changes the pace of my new builds.
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>>160445428
Okay, ringing again.
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>>160445634
Beast claws dude here, sorry I had punctuation in my password

I can go to amy's fog and ring right outside of the fog.
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>>160445762
>>160445428

Also I'm pretty sure I just saw both of your silhouettes chilling in front of the gate.
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>>160445934
I am slouching forward in beast mode or doing the salute.

Just standing outside of boss fog.
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>>160445934
Was wearing crow/kirkhammer but sadly I already downed amy solo - I'mma go play some more later. Thanks for your help regardless.
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>>160446149
Ah, damn. Congrats though!
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>>160446149
Look man, I'm glad you got him but it seemed like you fucking didn't bother wait for us at any stage.

The further away from our ringing you are the longer it will take to get us. If you would have just waited at the beginning for a minute you'd have two people (you probably didn't need anyway).

But that you just ADHD cleared the level while keeping us strung along in the thread is maddening because I could have been helping other people or playing myself.

I don't mean to be an ass but it reeks of fear and being unsure so you asked for help but then it was easier than you thought and you just smashed it out but didn't bother say that along the way or even tell us you were going to try yourself for the boss.
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Anyone wanna run through Great Ihyll with me?

I dispise bloodlettling beast and pthumerian descendant.

Pass is 'bbg'
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>>160446404
other guy here, I rang three times for 5+ minutes each (in front of the fog wall)
calm your autism, it's not his fault bb has terrible netcode
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>>160446404
Sorry I was reading some bullshit then, since otherwise I would have waited. Just recently bought a ps4 just to play bb, and somewhere online I read when you ring the bell, it doesnt matter where you are in the level people will match with you, which I found neat compared to soulsigns that were bound locally - turns out I was wrong so next time I know better.

So sorry for my rude behaviour.
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>>160435426
I personally don't think Fauxsefka got pregnant from Oedon, I think she was somehow granted eyes via her experiments.
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>>160445368
Thanks for being self aware anon. I just had to comment. I felt like nobody was saying thing about it.
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>>160444350
[please assist]
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Come ring in Loran if you want to get your shit pushed in by a korean bloodletter
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>>160446827
You're right that no matter where someone will match, but the further you are away the closer other people are who are more likely to be populated into your cooperative and invader pool.

>>160446805
Don't be a dick. There's a difference between autism and being held up. I was at least polite about it and only posted to vent frustration or else it would have been a regular ass shitpost that didn't try to convey any message.

Don't blindly defend. In this situation everyone did something.

>>160448103
I'll be there shortly, have to change characters.
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>>160448103
omw
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>>160447118
I was actually just thinking about this, right now I'm thinking it could be both. I'm getting this in particular from the Umbilical Cords.

Some context, apparently real life umbilical cords have the same kind of fluid that's in your eyes. Wharton's jelly, blah blah blah. That could explain, sort of, why the chords give you insight.

Another thing that gets me is that it's not a singular third, it's the sequential third umbilical cord if we go by jap names.

Now let's try to figure out where the chords came from. We can safely say Arianna's came from her pregnancy. I would think that the one used to beckon the moon presence and the one used to have an audience with Mergo came from Kos and Queen Yharnam. Not sure which came from which, but circumstances make me think Yharnam's was used by the School of Mensis, since they managed to get to Mergo, and the one to get the Moon Presence was Kos's, since Gherman has some kind of connection to the Nightmare despite being the host of the Dream.

So the question then is, where did Fakesefka's come from? She could've stolen and eaten it in desperation, but I don't know why she would suddenly feel pressured to do that. The only thing that changed was that the Paleblood Moon came out. And we know that what's associated with the Paleblood Moon is ladies getting ayyy preggers.

Cont.
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>>160448738

Consider also that Fauxsefka has some connection with Cainhurst (numbing mist, the Cainhurst Summons, it wasn't there at the start of the game). Maybe her blood was dirty enough to get Oedon transparently rock hard, but not enough to get her to conceive. We might have had another stillbirth here.

But then, what's with the writhing in her head? Well, if you get to her before the red moon thing and kill her, she drops Oedon Writhe. It could be that, even though it seems largely to be a coincidence in word choice. It could be she found some amount of success in her experiments that gave her some brain eyes, stimulated by the moon descending. It could be the influence of the cord inside of her.

Also, I know this has been brought up a lot, but I can't just ignore how ready she looks to give birth. They could have put her into any position, but they went with one that didn't just make her look like she was sick, but like she was ready to squeeze a baby out.
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Are there easy to farm non-bosses that reliably drop 24~26% gems?
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does anyone have any advice for the watchdog fight in pthumeru chalice? I'm pretty fucking bad at this game, was able to beat him once by luck for the first radial but now he keeps stomping my shit in. I tried summoning the prospector guy to help out but all he does is roll around spamming his pistol and then get taken out because he won't heal 1/4th of the way through the fight. Right now what I'm trying to do is
>wait for dog to "tell" attack, roll in direction of head rearing back to get behind him
>hit legs 2-3 times, roll away, go back to first
and I usually end up getting side swiped or dying of a 1-shot.

Tips please? How did you guys get gud at this game?
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I just invaded while wearing the charred hunter garb, and for some reason when I invaded the black cape disappeared
Is there any reason for this?
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>Speedrun new characters all the time and get them ready to do Chalice dungeons for a specific build
>Always quit since It gets lonely and bored after a while

Fuck me how do I stop this
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>>160449746
Stand in front of him and bait out his full bite combo by walking in and out of range. If you're out of range, the combo will stop, but walking back into range will have him continue it. Wait for the last hit of the combo for an easy opening to do some damage to his head.

When he goes into second form, the combo gains another 2 attacks, going from I think a 3 hit to a 5 hit. You should only have to dodge the last bite of the 5 hit. You can walk out of range for the others.
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Does triple Eye runes and Milkweed help farming abyssals?

Getting shit gems from FRC headless desu
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>>160449901
I have the same problem, if they added in some "reroll character once per NG(+)" item like in souls that'd be perfect. Running through the first half of the game to get to the best part gets old.
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>>160449746
Saw + BB Pellets + Bolt Paper. Bait the head and keep slapping it. If you're an Arc build just remove the gems from your weapons, put in the mediocre physical ones you've picked up along the way. The BB Pellets and Bolt Paper will do most of the work.
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>>160450003
No. Eye runes only increase the chance that a drop will occur, not what the drop will be. Against something with a guaranteed drop, they're useless.
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>>160450003
Doesn't effect boss gems, only Chunks/Rocks.
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>>160449994
going to go boot it up and try this, thanks familia

>>160450178
Won't bb pellets make me take way more damage too? Also can't get bolt paper yet, I'm having trouble killing darkbeast paarl too.
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>>160449746
If youre getting one shotted by anything but his charge at that point you need to up your vitality
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>>160450582
>i usually end up dying of a 1-shot

taking more damage won't matter then will it
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>>160450634
Should I go and run through hemwick to get some more twin blood shards and level up my vit a bit?
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>>160449670
Red Aura Watchers guarding chests or levers in Depth 5 Cursed and Fedid dungeons (Rotted won't help with this). There's a glyph in the OP I think.

>>160449746
What weapon are you using? A +6 Saw Cleaver with physical gems (you should have some 12%ish ones from the Layer 2 boss) destroy him even without any points in STR or SKL.

By attacking his legs or head repeatably you can "break" them individually which causes him to stagger and take 1.5x damage to that location until he repairs them. Attacking the back legs is the safest option, just learn the tells that he's about to charge or AOE. Bolt paper helps if you have it.

However, if you are doing him just for Fire gems, I strongly advise just making the Central Pthumuru chalice and farming some of the flaming weapon mobs. They drop up to 13.5% gems and you don't need to run an entire dungeon to farm them again. Only downside is they don't always drop gems (high item discovery helps a lot) and they are cursed, so you can get useless gems. But I think there's a spot on Layer 1 or 2 where two drop down into a dark room about 5 seconds from the lamp. Stock up on bold hunters marks and keep killing them.
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>>160450729
It wouldnt hurt, either that or summon someone from /bbg/ to help you with him.
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>>160450582
At low levels it won't make a huge difference, and if you keep baiting the head it's easy not to get hit. Bolt Paper can be found in Hypogeaon Gaol, also farmed from Snatchers but I wouldn't bother doing that. There's also the Tonitrus Hunter near the Rifle Spear Hunter to the right of the Grand Cathedral, he drops some.
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>>160450678
fuck, good point

>>160450816
it's not +6 yet, it's currently +5 so I need to get 8 more twins to get it there. Might end up doing your way of farming for the 13.5% cursed gems if I can't get him in a few more tries

>>160450829
I'm trying to solo bosses on my 2nd playthrough so I can get better. I might end up summoning if I can't beat him after another 5-10 times, but that kind of defeats the purpose of trying to get better haha, no?

>>160450897
thanks, I'll go for the hunter to get some paper then
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>>160448738
>>160449336
If Kos's umbilical cord was used by Gherman and co., how did Rom ascend then?

Did she get knocked-up by Kosm?
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Anyone wanna help me with lower phtumeru layer 1 watchers boss?
Pass is bbg
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>>160451301
Piece of advice, you could lure the Tonitrus Hunter without alerting the Rifle Spear Hunter if you creep up slowly. Toni Hunter is easy, Rifle Spear Hunter only drops 12 bullets and is more trouble than his worth.
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>>160448559
>>160448407
Are you guys still here? I've been ringing for a while and got nothing
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Doing a pure strength build on my second playthrough now. Currently using the Hunter's Axe and it's pretty good. What other weapons are good for strength builds? Not interested in the pizza cutter
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>>160451545
still need help? I'll get on if you do
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>>160452082
I don't know if they're here, but i'll help anyway. What level you at?
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>>160451545
Nevermind. Did it.
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>>160452198
BL 80, floor 3 near the lamp
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>>160452182
>hurting the chapel dweller
meet me in frontier faggot ill put you in youre place
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>>160452184
With 50/25 Str/Skl and Heavy Abyssals, pretty much any Strength/Quality/Skill weapon. Beast Cutter is fun, full 32.6% Blunt gems for maximum damage. Physical HMS, Blunt Wheel, Blunt Boomhammer are kinda rare but worth it. Kirkhammer, Stake Driver, and Beast Claw can be fun.
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>>160452385
Ring-a-ding-ding
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>>160452082
Just got back on. Down to help if still needed
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>>160452874
Scratch that, don't have lower Loran materials yet. Time to farm some ritual blood I guess
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>>160452874
Sorry, we murdered it pretty thoroughly
Im doing Great Isz next if you want to help with that
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>>160452402
im waiting at the grand cathedral, nerd....
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>>160453181
Honestly I love crowsteel's fashion and i hate that I can never use it without just being him.
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>>160451407
I've been stuck on this for a few days now, actually. It doesn't seem to strictly be about umbilical cords, because even if we eat all four of them, we still don't ascend, we need to take out the moon presence first. And besides, how would Rom have ascended with only one cord?

Thinking about it this way, Kos is associated more heavily with the Church because of how they anally destroyed the Fishing Hamlet. Why, then, would someone so associated with Byrgenwerth like Rom be fucking with the Church's stuff?

In contrast, Mensis is fucking obsessed with spiders, someway somehow. They might have been the ones who decided Rom was a spider in an attempt to categorize what she had become.

So Rom is concurrent with Kos, but predates Mensis. This has turned into a tangent, but probably Kos was discovered by Byrgenwerth before Laurence and co. split off into the healing church. Likely, he thought blood had something to do with it.

Going off of what the Church seems to be doing with Ebby, Laurence must have thought imbibing fluids from Great Ones was the answer, and since Ebby was the closest Great One at hand, they do it with her blood.

Considering those Fish Fuckers ended up all transformed and shit, and Kos looks like a fucked up beached whale, the transformation could have been caused by eating parts of Kos. Take that a step further, Rom may have eaten something from Kos that made her ascend, but no one figured out what or why, etc, and shit spiraled from there.
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>>160453059
Sorry, I've neglected chalices until today so I don't have the materials just yet. Down to run through late game or DLC though.
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>>160396617
>you're not really mean't to kill it with your fucking fists
>he couldn't kill a basic mob with half its health using his fists
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Holy shit bbg, I just lost 18 insight to those insight sucking monsters at choire.
Wh-What happened to me :(
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>>160454350
You got succ'd it sounds like.

Who gives a shit, insight is plentiful. Sure you suck dick for losing that much, but its not like it's a huge detriment.
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Anyone down for the headless bloodletting beast in pthumeru ihyll? I hate this fucker's hitboxes.

Pass is bbg, ringing at the fog gate.
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>>160454709
Coming via SRRC
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What's everyone's favorite track on the ost?
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>>160454893
The First Hunter followed by Cleric Beast.
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tfw played dungeons for so many months have forgotten the feel of the base game
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>>160454893
>Ludwig, the Holy Blade
>Orphan of Kos (Phase 1)
>Living Failures
>Laurence, the First Vicar
>Gehrman, the First Hunter
>Cleric Beast
>Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos
>Hail the Nightmare
I might as well say every track at this point.
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>>160454893
Surprisingly, Witch of Hemwick.
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>>160454893
Laurence is pretty good imo
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>>160454709
Still ringing?
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>>160454836
Cheers, mate
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>>160455289
Happy to help
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>>160454893
It's gotta be Gascoigne's theme

Honourable mention goes towards Living Failures and Cleric Beast
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Who is up for some ebrietas action if I am not going to down him?
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>>160454893
Horseguy, the venerated sword
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>>160455925
Jep
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>>160455925
Me
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>>160455925
>daughter of the cosmos
>him

how dare you misgender her in 2016 cis scum
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Can anyone help me breeze through Ayyling lore an? Got 100k souls on the floor somewhere and I only need the beast claw for my plat
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>>160456723
pass bbg first lamp
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>>160456650
>implying ebrietas cannot be genderfluid

Check your privilege shitlord
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>>160455989
>>160456118
Ffs gonna buy some vials and then we could start coop. Where should I ringedingeding?
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>>160455925
I'll help
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>>160451407
>how did Rom ascend then?
With insight
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>>160445634
>really changes the pace of my new builds

I don't get why people would bother with these guys. I guess if you just want to get the strongest gems with as little main game progress as possible for the novelty of it, it makes sense. If all you care about is getting a strong weapon as quickly as possible, then beating the main game and getting the gems from Yahar'gul and Mensis is much faster. You can get a +10 weapon with 18/18/15 gems in like 40 minutes, and presumably you're gonna want to clear out the main game, anyways, so the net time cost for doing this is "basically nothing." Farming chalice enemies for gems that you will eventually replace seems like a waste of time.

>>160436792
>>160436947
I think you're leaving out the fact that the physical damage is reduced by 70%. When tricked, the wheel's stats are:

140 base phys, 1.1 STR scaling.
150 base arc, 1.06 ARC scaling, +20 flat.

Furthermore, you'd have more than 1.617x damage from three nourishings, I think? Unless you're using pretty weak gems. Gems stack multiplicatively, so you'd have something like 1.195^2 * 1.215 = 1.735x damage.

So at 25/25 on a wheel with 2x 1.195/15 gems and a 1.215/15 gem (all flat phys secondary), you'd have the following:

(140 + 140 * 1.1 * 0.5) * 1.195^2 * 1.215 + 45 = ~422 phys damage.
(150 + 150 * 1.06 * 0.5) * 1.195^2 * 1.215 + 20 = ~418 arc damage.

Going from 25 to 50 increasing BNS from 0.5 to 0.85, so 50/25 gets you:

140 * 1.1 * 0.35 * 1.195^2 * 1.215 = ~94 additional damage.

While 25/50 gets you:

150 * 1.06 * 0.35 * 1.195^2 * 1.215 = ~97 additional damage.

For a total phys/arc split of either 516/418 or 422/515.

In other words, it's a very small difference in terms of total AR. Here are the main pros/cons of each build:

>50/25
-Can use STR weapons effectively, as well as some quality weapons with Heavy gems.
-Can make better use of Beast Blood Pellets.

>25/50
-Can use hunter tools effectively.
-Can use convertible weapons.
-Stronger when revved.
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>>160453290
>They might have been the ones who decided Rom was a spider in an attempt to categorize what she had become
Rom was a spider before Byrgenwerth was founded. They found her in the chalice dungeons.
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>>160457489
are you ng+?
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>>160457752
>reduced by 70%

Reduced to, not by.
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So, for a pure arc build, the normal Parasite is garbage, right?
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For Ebrietas: pass is "negan" without the quotation marks
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>>160457825
If that were true, then how would Micolash know she was granted eyes by Kos? And why would Rom be holding back the moon instead of just letting things happen like Ebrietas and the Amygdala?
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>>160457957
Yeah you want the uncanny one
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>>160457897
No. NG with bl 68.
Also I am ringing before the foggate.
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>>160458141
Yes

Story Ebby or Isz?
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>>160458141
alright got it
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>>160458034
what BL? so i know which twink to use
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>>160458205
Story ebby, for all the other hoonters
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>>160458064
>how would Micolash know she was granted eyes by Kos?
Because that's precisely what Byrgenwerth studied.
>why would Rom be holding back the moon instead of just letting things happen like Ebrietas and the Amygdala?
"The spider hides all manner of rituals, certain to reveal nothing, for true enlightenment need not be shared."
Holding back the moon is actually bad for Mensis, that's why they shit talk Rom in their notes and Damian wants to kill her.
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I think I've found my calling in bloodborne. Im just gonna get summoned and bowblade boss visceral points.
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>>160458416
Rom was a student of Master Willem before ascension. It fried her brain though, hence the description vacuous.

Also, the hiding of rituals is not necessarily bad for Mensis, I think. They're conducting a hidden ritual of their own in Yahar'gul. Rom's hiding of the blood moon could inadvertently be masking the Mensis ritual too.
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I have you in my prayers, Extremist, Eddie. You have been very helpful for us. May we see again for chalice eddy..
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>>160458748
>Rom was a student of Master Willem before ascension
Source?
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>>160458416
I'll believe that Byrgenwerth studied that, but how would they make that connection if Rom is from the chalices, and Kos was washed up from/killed at sea?

Yes, holding back the moon is bad for Mensis. But why does Rom care? No other Great Ones aside from those involved in conducting it seem to give a shit.
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I hate Chalice Rom.

It sucks in every conceivable way.
> it's possible (however unlikely) to reach her before story Rom, which kind of ruins one of the most important moments of the game. No other story boss appears in Chalice Dungeons before fighting the original.
> fucks with the Lore, see the argument going on right now about whether Rom was a student (several cases of evidence) or found in the Chalice Dungeons (since she appears there).
> is a pain to kill
> first (and only until Defiled Amy) source of farmable Nourishing Gems. Except they are useless because of the "this boss drops gems with neutered primary effects" attribute applied to Rom.

I have no greivejces against regular rom, but Chalice Rom is a collection of poor descions.
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Between Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear, which is generally considered the better of the two?
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>>160459643
Spear.
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>>160459517
She isn't that hard; she is just super tedious.

>>160459643
Spear, just because of the serration in both forms.
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>>160459643
Generally spear but if you go for 50 str 25 skl then cleaver is recommended
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>>160458109
>tfw wasted valuable upgrade material on shit tier parasite
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So is anyone else sad that the DLC and Bloodborne as a setting and souls game is done? I mean as much as I didn't like Dark Souls 2, I was happy there was a continuation of the originals mechanics and "lore" for the most part.

How long do you guys think before Bloodborne goes full dedborn?
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Does anyone have a level 544 character (or around that) they could let me kill in an invasion to get a whole lot of echo's at once.

Or just summon me into a NG+ world and kill a bunch of mobs letting me soak up the echo's?

>inb4 boosting is wrong, get gud etc...

That's not why I'm doing it, I reached Chalice Rom at level 10, and I want to level up from 10-49 all in one go, and I can't keep that many echoes on me because the game is really hard at level 10.
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>>160460118
Was going to go 40/40 Str/Skl
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>>160460735
Do not go 40/40

Go 50/25 or 25/50
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>>160460825
Oh okay, is it that big of a difference, I thought 40/40 was the "Quality" build.
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>>160460735
40/40 is garbage in Bloodborne because stats don't softcap at 40, they softcap at 25 and then 50.

50/30 (softcap is at 25, but if you willing to spend 80 points on damage stats this is an accurate comparison) is always better than 40/40 on STR focused weapons and 30/50 is always better on SKL focused quality weapons. But with a Heavy Abyssal gem you can make any weapon into A STR scaling at least, so 50/25 allows for huge variety.
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>>160461067
I see, guess I should reroll then lol
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>>160460570
People are still playing Demon's, a last gen console exclusive. A modern from action RPG won't die, especially not on a modern gen console. So stop dedposting.
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>>160460580
Anyone?

It would only take a few minutes. Summon me into your NG+7 Centeral Yharnam and kill some stuff. please, I'm sick of being 1-shot
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>>160461067
Plan is to do a "Standard" Hunter. Saw Cleaver/Beast Cutter w/Blunderbuss.
Looking at
Vit: 50
End: 20
Str: 50
Skl: 25
Arc: 15 (for tools)
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Does an Arcane build really need the Lost version of all the weapons they want to use? Isn't Radial, Radial, Waning/Triangle good enough? I really fucking don't want to have to glyph search for them, farm bloodstones, and upgrade again unless the difference is significant. If it's like a 5% difference in AR I won't bother with that fucking autism
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>>160461148
What's your current build?

Also when do you plan on stopping leveling. A true quality build is 50/50 and Saw Spear and Ludwigs Holy Blade at that point are beyond broken.
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>>160461453
>>160461401
This is what I'm looking at, not necessarily going Quality, was just asking about it, seems I"m going to be going Str. That is the build I think I want to do. Tops off at 115 w/ Cruel Fate.
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>>160452182
>didn't even get to the dialogue where he apologizes to YOU and acknowledges that it's HIS fault that you're beating him.

Chapel Dweller is fucking heartbreaking. I always leave a note next to him

>have mercy, Hunter, treat malformed thing with care
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>Playing last night power goes out.
>Finally comes back on, turn PS4 on to resume, told it has some issues.
>Save corrupted have to start all over.
Well fucking damn it. Anyone wanna give me a hand getting back to Rom the vaginal Spider?
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>>160461817

>Save corrupted
>is worried about getting back to Rom

KEK, have you done chalice dungeons?
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>>160461401
Did this, now have 200+ hours on the build

50 VIT
20 END
50 STR
20 SKL
7 BLT
20 ARC

Saw cleaver, saw spear, whirligig and beast cutter my mains, backed up by blunderbuss, pistol, cannon and chaingun, with tactical flamesprayer or rosy use

Also support hunter tools for fun

Can use every weapon viably minus bloodtinge and deep-end arcane tools
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>>160461442

> Fire gems:
Pthumru Hotdog (radial) = 24.8% with no good secondary effects
Pthumuru Cold Abyysal (radial) = 65 ARC scaling with no good secondary effects
Loran Hotdog (waning) = 24.8% Fire with +15 flat fire
Loran Cold Abyysal (waning) = 65 ARC scaling with +15 flat fire
Isz Watchers (triangle) = 27.2% fire

> Bolt gems
Loran Abhorrent Beast (waning) = 22% + 33 flat bolt
Loran Cold Abyssal (waning) = 65 ARC scaling with +15 flat bolt
Isz Watchers (triangle) = 27.2% Bolt
Isz Cold Abyssal (triangle) = 65 ARC scaling with +15 bolt
Pthumuru cold abyssal (radial) = 65 arc scaling with no good secondary effects

Having a lost weapon is much more important on a Bolt Weapon than on a Fire Weapon because there are no good Bolt Radials so two radial slots can really hurt your AR.
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I've never seen a Hemwick Witch (the kind that summons Mad Ones) in a dungeon until today. Now every dungeon I've opened has at least 2 of them per floor. Was there a stealth patch or am I just getting a streak of bad luck?
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>>160460580
I've got a 544
Put on the best Heir runes you've got and you're golden
What pass?
Where can you summon me?
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Holy shit I just realized Micolash is a lot like the Fool's Idol boss fight in Demon's Souls

even the OST is similar
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So I just got bagged by the bag man for the first time to unseen village. I am by all meaning getting my shit slapped, mostly because I have no vials and I'm not going back to hunters dream. Any help?
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>fighting Laurence
>doing pretty decent
>he loses his legs
>fucking shitting fire all over the place
>so much fire and reeeeee happening that I can't tell what the fuck is going on
Jesus Christ this fucker is crazy.
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>gigantic chest that literally sings out when you open it
>Ritual Blood (3) x1
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>>160463052
You'll find a pair of circulating stairs just by the prison where you spawn.
At the top of those stairs is your Lamp to safety.
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>>160462731
Actually I have no Oath runes, so we can't be hostile to eachother. We'll need another person to host (wearing Vilebloof rune) and you join wearing Execuirioner rune so you spawn as an adversary, and also summon me.

Then we kill you and reap lots of echo's.

Or you can just summon me as coop into your (presumably NG+ or beyond) world and kill stuff while I watch. I can be summoned into any area before Forbidden Woods, or any Depth 1-3 chalice dungeon.
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>>160463272
Well then let's get you to Cainhurst then. I've got a level 25 twink too.
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>>160463459
> Cainhurst
> before forbidden woods

Centeral Yharnam, Cathederal Ward, Old Yharnam, Hemwick or Hypereon Gaol are avalible areas.
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>>160463193
ah, thank you. I haven't played in a long time. I rescued all of the patrons including the nun at the forseen village, I sent her to the clinic. I guess my next step is to explore the unforseen village?
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>>160463617
I mean it's just a quick bully for Amelia and you're at the Forest.
If you want to kill Henryk (as he is the only point of no return worthwhile in the early-game)
Just get a Blunderbuss and shoot him while Eileen does the damage.
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>>160462050
I'm not worried about getting back to that specific boss, that's where I lost power last night and where my save corrupted, I take a long time doing random bullshit anon that was a 15 hour save so far I guess I could go off and do that chalice dungeons instead but how am I to deal enough damage to the bosses if my weapon is only +3 plus if a fuck up once I essentially die in one hit I'm not perfect.
>>
>can't even Auger bully Maria properly because she always catches me somehow during the final phase
>tfw living failure
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>>160463729
>Sent her to the Clinic
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>>160464078
killing my whore-fu
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>>160462106
Having two cold gems is fine on most weapons. By going with RRW, on most weapons you're just changing secondary rolls. Lost, you'd get a cold with 15 flat bolt. Radial, you'd get a cold with +% vs. Open Foes or something. So it's not a huge loss.

Also I guess there are 23.1/14 bolt gems from bone ash hunters, but fuck those guys.
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>>160463870
> I mean it's just a quick bully for Amelia and you're at the Forest.

You havnt realised what this is, have you? I'm the guy making a video-guide to being as overprepared as possible for Vicar Amelia. I don't want to kill her yet because I still need to level up.

The reason I want a shitton of echo's all at once is so I can show the leveling process in one take, from "hello, I am a doll" to level 49 in one seamless recording.
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I sent the whore and the one guy who didn't trust me to her, went back and she was giggling maniacally about dosing them with something, I deduced the bitch was insane and not to trust her ever again.
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come fight me 1v1 at fishing hut. I'm level 98.
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>>160464078
Really, in most cases sending them to the clinic is the moral thing to do. The whore goes mad and dies from giving birth to an abomination, the little girl gets eaten alive by a pig, the nun breaks.

Turning them into ayys is probably the right thing to do.
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>>160464308
The suspicious man goes to the opposite of what you tell him, so if you told him to go to the clinic, he'll be waiting in the cathedral.
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>>160464078
>>160464131
>my girlfriend's name is Arianna
>immediately fond of the character because of that, design, and personality
>find out about what can happen to her

I just want to protect Arianna's smile.
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>>160464359
Yes, and you're rewarded for it too, which is a plus
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>>160464218
Well i haven't ben in theese threads for a while now.
So i havent heard of this project.

Anywho.
We're gonna need a volunteer who matches those other requierments if you're gonna get some blood echoes from me.
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>>160462106
How about on an Arcane weapon? Namely Cane and Parasite
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>>160464859
Arcane weapons NEED radial, radial Triangle.

A waning slot is dead weight on an arcane weapon. Which is ironically what the Defaulf Kos Parasite has.
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>>160464218
I found it impressive that you got out geared but grinding mobs for levels is boring 2bh
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>>160465026
So bolt and fire radial triangle waning
And arcane radial radial triangle
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>>160464712
>>160464218
I'll host for you guys at Cathedral Ward.
I will have Radiance equipped and password will be: autism
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new thread?
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Migrate

>>160465454
>>160465454
>>160465454
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>>160465303
wait fuck scratch that, all of my characters passed Amelia. Sorry
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>>160465406
I'll never understand why people ask for a new one instead of just fucking making one.
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>>160465503
What about Chalice dungeons?
He said he had cleared the way to Lower Phtumeru so that should work.
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>>160465260
Yep.

Then for split damage weapons: it depends.

Although none of this makes a huge difference.
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>>160465636
All right, give me a minute and I'll ring at the first lamp at the first story Pthumeru dungeon.
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>>160465636
alternatively If a twink could help me kill Rom in Lower Pthumuru it would be mightly appreciated.
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>>160465548
Becaus imagine if all 98 unique posters in this thread just made a new thread oncce it hits 750
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>>160465883
then it's settled
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>>160465883
>>160463272

BL: 544 here.
I have rung my Small Resonance Bell
Oath: Corruption
Pass: autism
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>>160466665
or...
nah, he's on the other thread doing Rom
nvm then.
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>>160466825
This can still work if he still doesn't have enough echos.
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Anyone for Lady Maria? Almost out of blood vials and I already beat her by myself some time ago.

BL85 pass bgg if anyone answers
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>>160474015
omw
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>>160474369
nvm i did it sry
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anyone up to clear fishing hamlet?
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>>160373737
>>160373949
>he
>him

"Caryll was a genius runesmith who, through unknown methods, could listen to the scratchings and utterings of the Great Ones. While she could not understand the inhuman words they spoke, she managed to etch them into visual symbols that could be identified."

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/edit

(page 6)

Although to be fair, one writer's assumption of Caryll's gender doesn't really invalidate the use of "he", but this just made me realize we don't actually even know this much about Caryll.
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>>160474905
I need a hand to get the rakuyo if anyone feels like it
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>>160475462
done
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