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Rotten Painted world: >>160237007

>Regulation v1.22 patchnotes - Nov. 11th
http://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/366309728590281257

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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First for fuck twinks
:^)
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Lautrec did nothing wrong.
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HUMAN
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Your reaction when you see this
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Is there any reason to use uchigatana over the washing pole?
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Anyone on PC mind helping me move a few rings between characters? I have every weapon, armor and ring if you need anything.
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>>160275724
ez pale tongue
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>>160275724
>Wow, cool armor!
>Why do you smell like piss tho?
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Fourth for the correct pronounciation of the zweihander

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoyRcGkDnJo
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>>160275758
No
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>>160275895
ZWEE
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>>160275535
OFF
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Reposting because i'm desperate

Where can i watch/read about cut content and various other interesting stuff that is hidden away in the files?

The anon i was talking to yesterday (I'm assuming it was Zullie) doesn't document any findings.
I'll take anything, be it youtube channels or tumblrs.

I already know about
>Crestfallen
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVYeVjIlZGFXpt3pgdkxbGQ
>Sanadsk (Huge faggot, but i'm starved for content)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2EFhJTQESvy0vT3u-sxofw
>Illusorywall
http://illusorywall.tumblr.com/
>Gibbed's Demon's Souls cut archstone video stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA9c01YsEFM
>Wulf2k9
https://www.youtube.com/user/Wulf2k9
And that's about it that comes to mind.

Do you have anything i haven't listed?
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>tfw lost interest in DS3 DLC invasions after 2 weeks
>no new patch
I miss BB pvp and even DS2 pvp.
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>>160275948
ZWEEHENNER
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>>160275895
Tsvai-hen-da(r)
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>He hasn't done a no summon challenge run
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>>160276116
You mean a normal playthrough?
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>>160276116
>no summons
>a challenge

do you mean a normal run?
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Haven't actually played video games since DaS2 release. I finally have time to play a video game again for the rest of November and I'm thinking about buying DaS3.

What's the general opinion on it here?
I've played DaS Das2 next to 500h, so how does it compare?
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>>160275952
IT
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>>160276150
>>160276148
There are people STILL biting this.
What the fuck.
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>>160275267

Xth for that sweet, sweet Gwyndolin boipucci

>>>/r/14962600
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>>160276179
Why do you ask? Get your own opinion first
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>>160276179
it's the worst of the series but it's ok for one playthrough
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>>160275491
preferably in the ass
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>>160276007
BB invasions were so fun, I wish they weren't fucking gimped with the bell maiden mechanic though.
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>>160275724
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>>160275491
> fuck twinks
Enjoy being at the bottom ;^)
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>>160276179
>What's the general opinion on it here?
General opinion is that it's shit.

For me, I loved it.
It's very fast, if you played Demon's Souls, it compares to that game the most out of the series, especially now that the hyper armor is actually a thing.

The PvE is very solid, kinda too many bonfires ( the same problem as DaS2) and the NG+ is shit, but otherwise a very solid game.

Level design absolutely BTFOs DaS2.

It's very linear, but also very decent game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVUJu1vPNcU
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>>160276179
it's worth it if you like souls. get it on sale or something. the only people that really didn't get their money's worth are people who cashed out for the deluxe edition in anticipation.
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>>160276581
You surely meant ON the bottom?
Because twinks are bottoms anon. They are bottoms. I can't believe that I have to explain this to you.
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>>160275724
Want.
>tfw everyone had the same thought
>tfw it attracted the worst cancer
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Why does the Cathedral Knight set look nothing like what the Cathedral Knights wear?

Something is off a lot. I think it's the skirt or something.
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>>160275267
Name of the artist in OP pic?
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>>160276007
Wait a fuckin sec. There was 1.22 regulation? How much pvp has changed?
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>>160275813
I can help. Drop a red sign at high wall, pass dsg
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>>160276637
>Linking to the fat, salty spic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zBa1_-YOPk
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>>160276709
>literally a 'no u' post
Upgrade that bantz skills you butthurt nerd.
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>>160276756
>using an ironic build and doing the most faggot gesture in a fight club
You deserved it
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Who here uses a dagger in DaS3? How does it compliment your build or playstyle?
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>>160276371
>flashbacks to 2014
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>>160276961
Corvian Greatknife is excellent for bullying heavy weapon users.
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>>160276756
I don't get this

The guy was using a bleed build with claws and cheesed him and then pointed down

It's not like he started sperging out over the build, he was just upset and confused why the dude would come to one of his fight clubs and then point down at him

and before hurr durr just a gesture

everyone knows point down is almost never used in a 'friendly' way unless someone dropped an item


Yeah it's funny, but his reaction isn't abnormal or anything
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>>160276839
I have no money to settle in straya anon, sorry. The current skills will have to suffice.
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>>160276756
>that fucking loading screen is so long he has time to contemplate everything that happened, decide to ban a guy for winning, and whine to his chat for an extra 30 seconds after that

wow
so...
this is...........
the power.........
of the....
sony........
playstation.......
4
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>>160276280
No, not that one
Why the fuck did the artist give her dog nips
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Whats you opinion on low level invasions where you only use equipment that can be accessed from the beginning and is completely un-upgraded?

It's the most fun i've had. Not trying too hard if they're obviously new, and if they managed to kill me i would drop my white sign and destroy all the enemies for them.

Am i a faggot?
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>>160276980
Savage. Is he forcing himself to stream and earn yt money at this point?
>>160277034
Make videos or stream. ez
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>>160276961
Mail Breaker is underrated and also my weapfu.
140 crit rating, fast as fuck attack speed with decent scaling and range, and a weapon art that can break shields all for only 1.5 weight. Fits into almost every build I use.
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>>160277065
/v/....
not....
here....
tho....
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Why is the Carthus Curved Sword so superior to the Carthus Shotel? they have the same moveset except for the kick, the shotel has slightly less AR but has shield piercing effect.
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>>160276754
Thanks lad
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>there are people playing through these games with infinite health
>to no one's surprise they're completely retarded

He switched from a fire halberd that actually did damage, to an unupgraded falchion to try and kill me. I don't understand why but it enabled me to bully him for ages. I later made him attack one of the mimics, and watching him struggle to kill it, even with infinite health, was one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.

I honestly think this person had a disability, or they were a child. I started to feel bad and just B/C'd out eventually (after bullying him for like 25 minutes).
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>>160277163
>SL30 invasions
>guard break into pocket hornet raw mail breaker
it's too good, makes phantoms trivial
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>>160277243
It's me who should be thanking you. About to start a new character.
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>>160277109
True faggotry is high energy griefing. Can you call yourself a faggot when there are nerds who resort to crutches or hacks when they're desperate?
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>>160277197
3 Sony™ Big Boy™ Dollars have been deposited into your Big Boy™ account!
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>>160277215

And also the shotel has better scaling
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>>160277215
All CS are same shit. It's weapon class for bots like katanas. CCS is longest - more phantom range
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>>160277027
Literally banning someone from their stream because he was a little rude is not abnormal?
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>>160277109
You are very okay. White sign might be an overdo though, but whatever rows your boat i guess.

I do the same, it's not like there is a shortage of good weapons early anyway.
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>>160277260
>calling people who googled "dark souls trainer" hackers
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>>160277215
>>160277358
I think it's the range and look. Small AR difference on a DPS weapon is also a big difference considering it may be 1 hit less to kill.
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>>160277401

W-what if I use the storm curved sword? I'm not a shitter right?
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>>160277451
It's just an easy way to identify them.
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>>160276754
can I ask for a quick hand too to swap some rings also please thanks
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>>160277065
sad isn't it?

>cant experience BB in glorious 60fps 1080p on max settings because Sony are cucks

>>160277419
Why would you go to a streamers fight club if you were just gonna be a dick? The guy knew what he was doing
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>>160277027
Banning them was that guy's intention to mine salt and he succeeded in making him salty. If anything he was baited and rused.
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>beat THE CHAMP on my second attempt with parrying and dodging in the second phase
>I had more problems with the Dancer than what is considered one of the more challenging bosses

I don't even know anymore.
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>>160277604
ok, cutie. just a minute because i literally died to a mimic bullshit grab hitbox
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>>160277148
>Is he forcing himself to stream and earn yt money at this point?
He's whoring himself out hardcore.
He's now uploading Twitch vods on Youtube like Lobosjr does, banking on the Youtube moniez on top of the Twitch shit while having minimal interaction with his Youtube fanbase. Although having the videos up on Youtube is better for people who don't want to deal with his cancerous fanbase or Twitch in general.

He managed to stop playing Demon's Souls YET AGAIN and cucking everyone who wanted him to stream Bloodborne after he made some half-assed Bloodborne "speed runs".

Now he's been uploading some DS3 fc videos on Youtube despite saying that he hates DS3. Can't really figure out the guy.
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>>160277746
yay thanks
high wall dsg et cetera
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>>160277027
Why do you post

like

this?

did elementary only had music sheets?
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>FASHION SOULS but there are not many crowns

What is this bullshit Miyazaki.
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>>160277842
I'm there, drop your sign.
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>>160277575
Storm is longer than CCS and can combo WA. It's not "meta" because of less AR. If you remove CCS from game it will become cancer.
>>160277620
>cant experience BB in glorious 60fps 1080p
BB will be pro patched for sure in 2017. It's SCE game after all
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>>160277027
>and before hurr durr just a gesture
>everyone knows point down is almost never used in a 'friendly' way unless someone dropped an item

Are.....are you really this triggered over "mean" gestured in Dark Souls?
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>>160277261
And that is a good thing. Fuck phantoms.
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>>160277748
Think of it as a means to an end. Banking on e-celeb cash and revenue are shameless but it works like working on part-time at mcdonalds or a job you hate going to are only means to earn money. He probably learned to keep that shit separate from his personal life albeit I'm sure he's also getting harassed by people living near him. This is likely why people like me are turned off from the idea despite it being easy moneygrab.
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The painter girl is cute. CUTE!
>running out of images of her to post
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>>160277931
it'll still run at sub 60fps
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If I want to do co-op invasions in DS3 using the sunlight covenant, is there anything special the host needs to do in order to get invaded by two sunlight warriors?

Trying to do a gank invasion team with a friend (it's themed if that makes us less faggoty)
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>>160278019
I want to pin her down on the floor and make love to her.
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>>160277984
I know, I have full stacks of tongues and shackles on that character
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>>160278019
Post webm when she waving to Ashen One or when she wiggling her feet
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>>160277924
halfway there
gimme one minute to make sure my backup replacement worked sorry sorry this is not my area
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>>160277620

Why fight a streamer for any other reason except to crush his fragile ego live in front of his whole audience?
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>>160278129
Not big deal. And isn't 140FPS is new minimum for /v/ autists? Liek no 140fps = no buy
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>>160277895
Reddit code needs two returns to make a new line. It's fairly easy to tell who comes from reddit based on this alone.
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>>160278270
I want to lap fuck her while caressing her chest and french kiss her lips, sucking on her delicate tongue while we moan!
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>>160277924
ah I don't have the red soapstone on this character yet
will a white do, or shall I go make a mad dash to the cathedral
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>>160278184

>>160278234
You're magnificent, anon. How did you get this angle though?
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>>160278263
>ego
>making video of how some streamer banned you
Irony
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>>160277915

It doesn't matter, wolnir's is the only one that cou nts.
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>>160278339
Do you have a 144hz monitor? It's actually really nice to play games at 144fps that way.

I wouldn't say the difference is as harsh as the difference between 60 and 30 fps, but it's really nice. Always takes me a few hours of readjusting if I play a 60fps game after playing 144fps games for a while.

You come across like a gigantic faggot for calling people autists because they have strong preferences by the way.
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>>160278147
>if that makes us less faggoty

Why would that make you gay in the first place? The host has to use a dried finger which means they want to be invaded by multiple players (and/or be able to summon an extra player).

I don't even know if the sunbro invasion thing even works, I pretty much only invade with it on as well these days.
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>>160277260
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>>160278390
You can drop a white, I got some embers from that other kind anon. However we will be at risk of being invaded, so come to the starting area of the level, the small room with the lordvessel on the floor up above and we should be fine. And remember, you can black crystal out instead of dropping all that spaghetti, even though I found it to be unbearably cute.
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>>160276213
DUDE
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>>160278532
>The host has to use a dried finger
Ah, I didn't know that. I thought you could just generally always duo-invade with warriors of sunlight.

Do people really use the dried finger commonly then? I've dual-invaded randomly a fair bit in the past.
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>>160278384
and I though people were fishing (you)s all this time. what does one key hit do then?
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>>160278604
YOU GOT STABBED IN YO CHEST
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>>160278445

I wasn't the guy who made that post/made that video, I'm just making a point.

>making a video of how some streamer banned you because you kicked his ass and cried about it

I mean yeah, it makes sense if you're gloating over the reaction you got out of the streamer. Now he can relive that moment as often as he wants, share it with his friends who also think yukas is a faggot, etc. Especially crushing him with the claws of all things, I mean jesus christ how bad can you be to lose to the claws that badly?
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>>160277952
That guy REALLY lives up to the stereotype that people with colored hair are (((THAT))) kind of person
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>>160278538
>server with sanctus and replenishment
holy fucking shit a nigger of mine has been found
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>>160278715
Literally nothing.
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>>160278000
I don't think less of ENB because he streams and whores himself out for Twitch monies. I think less of him for lying about his reactions to DaS2 (which is why you'll never see him play it on stream or talk extensively about it since he hates the game but shitting on it would make people question why he praised it earlier) and to lesser extent about Bloodborne's beast mode, but BB was great and if it was only for the BB thing I wouldn't even care.

All the harassment he gets in the online or offline is just desserts for being a fucking garbage shill and having a terrible work ethic in regards to his Youtube channel and he's transmitting that horrible work ethic to his Twitch channel as well by cucking his viewers out of The Old Hunters . Call me crazy but I don't think ENB ever played The Old Hunters for himself outside of working with the guide. He says DS3 DLC was the "best Souls content From has made" and when confronted about TOH he says that TOH was 2 DLCs in 1. Yes, that's true, and TOH did have some garbage bosses like The Living Failures, but while Ashes of Ariandel is great, Old Hunters is simply better because the other bossfight of AoA is kinda crap and even if you only took half of TOH into consideration, it'd still be better as a whole than AoA. This is probably the biggest reason you've never seen him play it on camera.

His family doesn't need to get dragged into the mess however, it's not his wife's fault that ENB is a lying scammer nor is it his daughter's fault that his dad is a DSP-tier deadbeat who just happens to be nice enough that people don't see through his bs.
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>>160278384
>>160277895
Might as well quote everyone who types this way too.
Faggots.

>>160277952
No because I use it myself, and I've literally always used it to mean "git gud, shitter". I'm not triggered by it, I just don't know how anyone could use it and then be surprised when someone reacts negatively towards it. I want people to be angry when I use it, personally.
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>>160278556
thanks a bunch! is there anything I can give you in return? if you could use more embers I have more than I need

and I might have forgotten about the black crystal, I don't use it often
it was pretty embarrassing
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>>160278498
>You come across like a gigantic faggot for calling people autists because they have strong preferences by the way.
I'm gomenasai. It's about some people who cares only about fps race
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>>160278752
WHAT DID I TELL YOU
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>>160278234
Oh Jesus Christ..
When i opened the image all i saw was this, and instantly thought those were her knees
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>>160278882
I can 100% understand if sub 144fps is a dealbreaker for someone in this day and age. I don't personally share that sentiment, but I think it's fairly reasonable.

Again, you come across like a butthurt faggot when you try to make it seem like there's something inherently wrong with high standards like that.
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>>160278629
I guess it's not ridiculously common but I still see it a fair bit when I'm invading. It'll be pretty unlikely for you and your friend to invade the same guy though, I think. If you both invade the same area for a few hours it might happen like once.
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>>160278853
The only thing I might need right now is a dragonslayer's axe. But you don't need to repay me. Some embers would be fine too but not that important, I can cruise the game fine without them
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>>160275724
Doesn't look like anything to me.
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>>160278885
NO RESPECT WHATSOEVER
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>>160279073
I can do that! do you want it upgraded or infused at all?
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>>160279165
no, regular+0 is fine. I plan on doing an entire playthrough with it.
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>>160278780
That's not entirely true. He probably did enjoy ds2, but then shit happened in his real life and he was trying too hard to enjoy it. Which just made it end up as a game he couldn't enjoy because of associating it with those times. I know this happens because I've experienced it myself.

I don't believe in the jewtube conspiracies that he made it all up for money, or was paid off by Miyazaki or whatever nonsense you people could come up with. He just simply had too much shit going on in his life.

That said he's a faggot for ditching youtube over comments.
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Where should I put my last four points? My weapon is a +5 immolation tinder.
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>>160279241
sign's down!
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>>160279037
>high standards like that.
8k 200fps or not buy
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How to get into PvP / which weapons do I use to learn it? Do we have a weapon tier chart?
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>>160279292
>immolation tinder
>no sorcery
w0t
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Is it possible to delevel a weapon through CE? would my matchmaking still leave me at current level?
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>invade in cathedral of the deep
>there's 3 faggots, the host and two buddies, according to steam playerlist
>I'm all alone
>wait near the boss door because I can't fucking find them
>they don't show up

It's been 15 minutes now. What the fuck do I do? They're not fighting anything, or I'd be seeing damage numbers pop up or something.
I think they're legit just holed up somewhere, scared to move. Scared a lone fucking invader might catch those 3 people by surprise. And I can't find them.

Man, I hate invasions like these
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>>160279362
I use the tinder purely as a melee weapon and cast sorceries from the other hand.
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>>160278810
I would totally do that for a couple of months and it would probably work too.
Although doing dsg meme posts can be tiring
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>>160279292
>SL100

For what purpose?
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>>160279424
Pyromancies I mean, not sorceries, fuck.
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>>160279359
Eh, I'm using a 1440p screen and you do notice it least when gaming. It's essentially really good anti-aliasing for "free". The huge amount of space added in windows is insane, though.

Nice professional chart, tho. Which scientific method did they use to determine wether it's "appearing to be equivalent"?
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>>160279343
>>160279241
*in the little lordvessel room you said before
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>>160279596
I'll be there in like 3 minutes. Let me just open the shortcut to vordt
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>>160279292
This is such a shitty build, god damn.
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>>160279650
sure sure sorry I thought you might be looking for it at the bonfire
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>>160279525
Access to the huge amount of people who are at end game about 80 and people who've gone up to 120, while avoiding the cancer above 120.

>>160279686
Does me just fine friend :v)
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Poverty, why do insist on trying to parry fish long after your opponent has seen through your faggotry? Out of the ~5 times our paths have crossed, you havent managed to parry me even once.
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>>160279575
https://carltonbale.com/new-thx-spec-for-home-theater-thx-loudness-plus/
>home theater
anon probably just picked up from google images
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Bought DaS2 since i'm almost finishing DaS1.

Will I need some DSFix like modification to play it on 60fps and stable on max settings (playing on a GTX1070)?

Got the regular DaS2, not the Scholar edition.
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Does anyone know what kind of Spin Slash combos the big weapons still have, like the Black Knight Glaive and Spiked Mace, since the full R1-L2-R2 combo doesn't work anymore?

I've heard people say R1-L2-R1 works? Or just L2-R2 by itself?
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>>160279292
That weapon barely benefits from the STR/DEX. Drop that shit for more INT. Probably get more FTH too for more pyromancy damage.

It's kind of a bad weapon for a pyro build.
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>>160279910
>Got the regular DaS2, not the Scholar edition.
I don't like all the SoTFS changes, but why? No one is going to be playing DaS2 Vanilla if the servers are even still going.
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>>160279360
Pick your current favorite wep and go duel outside pontiff room. Try out different weps. Rinse and repeat
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What is the current Dark Souls 3 PvP meta Soul Level? Is 99 too high?
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>>160279721
Thanks a bunch, dude. Now I don't have to do that obtuse quest and not get my proper bow gesture.
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Anyone know a good helmet to go with the Millwood set for fashion's sake?
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>>160280151
Got it from leftover money after buying some games last sale, which was not enough to get SoTFS. Maybe i'll buy the upgrade thing on steam next sale. Hope it isnt too shitty im comparrison.
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>>160279276
>He probably did enjoy ds2
I'd be willing to believe that in terms of the network test and pure gameplay because the DS2 Network test played a lot differently than the rest of the game.

Saying that DS2 had areas with atmosphere comparable to Tower of Latria? He had to be lying at that point. While the gameplay was indeed changed between the versions, I really doubt the areas in the game changed THAT considerably to go from "Tower of Latria"-tier atmosphere to "bleh" in a heartbeat.

>I don't believe in the jewtube conspiracies that he made it all up for money, or was paid off by Miyazaki or whatever nonsense you people could come up with.

He simply felt pressured by the fact that Bamco gave him the opportunity to work with From and thus if he shat on the game, he wouldn't get anymore chances to do that. Standard pr stuff.

That's why every Soulbrandt faggot shilled DS2 and DS3 really hard as well, then shortly after the release starting to whine about the games being shit again.

The difference is that I never respected Soulbrandt members, but thought that ENB would at least not flat out lie about the quality of DaS2 and the difference between ENB and the Soulbrandt people was that ENB got to see much more of the game than they ever did since he was working on the guide.

He literally said he's liking DS2 better than DS1, which is inexcusable since the things he claims made DS1 better than DS2 were also the things that didn't change between the development cycles at the point when he was working on the guide that much i.e the world design, level design and bosses.

However, I think he was genuine about liking the multiplayer in DS2 since he maintained that stance even after the game was released and he was admitting he didn't actually like the PvE that much.

>Which just made it end up as a game he couldn't enjoy because of associating it with those times
That was with Bloodborne which is a real shame since it's the best Fromsoft game thus far.
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>>160279417
BC out and find another match you faggot autistic whiner
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>>160280257
I hope you enjoy it anon
thanks again
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>>160280208
Most people stop at 120 for PvP, the way that it's always been.
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>>160280208
120 if you want to play with 130~140
100 if you want to play with ~120
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>>160279910
DaS2 is better optimized on PC than DaS3.
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>>160279910
>Will I need some DSFix like modification to play it on 60fps
No.
If there's one thing that DS2 did well is the pc port. Which y'know, I didn't get to enjoy since I played it on the PS3 but still.
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Cute!
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>>160280541
I'm going to assume that I dont need third party software to run it on 60fps then.
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my gank run is a lot of fun so far

I can see why people enjoy it
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gud invasions will come to u only if u reply "o shit Wave"
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>>160280580
Glorious
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>>160280667
You do not.
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>>160280686
is that fucking voice chat, anon?
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>>160280414
they ended up advancing. I killed both phantoms, host ran back to resummon them, they came back 3v1 again, and I killed them again one by one.

I'm not a pussy like you
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I actually like the look of HavelMonster
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>>160280748
>the Bonewheel shield weapon art isn't rolling with the shield like a wheel skeleton with r2s extending the rolling distance
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>>160280849
I have no idea I don't even have a mic
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What are the best waifus of the series?
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>>160280875
Me too. I even like how Havelmom looks.
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>>160280875
The funny thing is that people kept using the same getup long after the patch that made the Gyrm Greathelm the superior headgear choice.
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>>160280943
(You)
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>>160280436
>>160280462
thanks
one other question, is there any necessity in levelling DS3 vitality if I don't need it? I heard it gives decent phys reduction but I've not seen anything that proves it
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>>160280321
No helm best helm.


>>160280040
R1-L2-R1 works
L2-R2 usually works too
Last hit of R2 then L2-R1 also works most of the times, only tested with the Lucerne though.
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>>160280943
priscilla, even though she's a goof and accidentally sits on the Chosen Undead! the poor soul, I hope he didn't get crushed!
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>>160281104
Poise is now relavant, you having enough to tank 1 attack of small weapons and win the trade is good to have.
Also fashion.
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>>160280851
Congrats on your victory autismosama but i dont have all day for 45-minute long invasions. Think of how much more killing you could have gotten in faggot
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>>160280748
o shit Wave
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>>160281276
DELET
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I...

...what?
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>>160281104
Once you reach your other soft caps and have points to spend there's no reason not to.

There's a noticeable difference between base vitality and when it's softcapped, though it's not really significant otherwise. I usually just level VIT until I can roll with whatever I want to use and then the rest goes into VIG.
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>>160281301
I dont even care because of how satisfying it was
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>>160281157
>No helm best helm.
Maybe I'll just stick without one, yeah. Previously I was using the thief mask but I've kind of grown tired of it.
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>>160281371
People usually get bored of the actual game and start doing something else.
Always happens with Souls games.
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>>160281157

Last hit of R2, what do you mean?
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>>160281278
>>160281404
I see, thanks
One last question from me
Can you drop NG+(+) rings for online players?
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Hey niggers, what do you think of playing DaS2 for the first time with an enb preset? Does it make the game feel "not right"?
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>>160281563
yes
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>>160281629
Fantastic; I'll get onto my new build right away if that's the case
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>>160281496
If they truly got bored, they'd be playing some other game. Fucking around in souls games is almost better than the actual gameplay and I'm pretty sure it's a part of it
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>>160281496
>heavy flamberge is a better STR greatsword than executioner GS at 66/15
ffs I've already used a slab on the executioner GS...
and I don't like GSs with no no scabbards
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>>160277748

> Twitch vods on Youtube like Lobosjr does, banking on the Youtube moniez on top of the Twitch shit
Can you tell me with a straight face that you wouldn't?
Why the fuck wouldn't you?
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>>160281503
Like this.
See here how I delay enough after the L2 to use a regular R2 instead of the smash?
When the last hit of the R2 hits, it connects with L2-R1
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Do the first 2 swings of the follower sabre WA at +10 still guardbreak a 40 END +5 BK Shield at full stamina, or did the nerf fix that?
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>>160281740
It happens all the time too. If the host is being silly it's pretty likely everyone will follow suit.
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What did From mean by this?

P.S. Post more webms, dammit.
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>>160281903
>Can you tell me with a straight face that you wouldn't?
No. The other guy asked me what he's doing and I replied what he was doing.

I don't judge him for making bank on fools who have more money than sense (though I'm ashamed to admit that I subbed to him but it was through Prime so it was free to me)
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>>160281921
was this always possible? I swear the spin2win always had long recovery frames
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>>160276980

>tfw I wrote this
I feel nothing
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>>160275758
No 18 str requirement, lighter, less stamina usage, and more durable.
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>DS1
>Roll cleric with vague plan to roll a miracle user
>Not dex/faith SLB/DMB cancer
>Find BKH
>BKS
>BKGS
>Visit Snuggly to get all the twinkling titanite I can amass before Sen's or Great Hollow
>Sit at bonfire
>Looking at weapons
>Can't decide which to use
>Turn off monitor
>Go to bed
>Wake up
>Turn on monitor
>Still on the reinforce weapon screen
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>>160282271
thanks for sharing
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I want to live in Ash Lake
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>>160282235
I don't remember trying to use the R2 to bait like that before the poise rework, where I stopped using Lucerne, so I don't know if it was possible before.
I do know that the BKGlaive used to combo that unique R2 into L2-R2, so it might still combo L2-R1
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>>160282221
>What did From mean by this?

They don't playtest their PvP
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>>160282221
Doubt that is actually a true combo. The dude probably don't know where his roll button is.
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>>160282556

It is as long as you have a decent enough connection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCzGqNTNgPY

Only thing keeping it from being completely broken is the total lack of poise HA.
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>>160280392
Its not, some of it is actually better imo as the new enemy placements are fucking silly in some parts. DaS2 is a different beast entirely to DaS1 though, be aware that nothing is going to work similarly although it looks similar. Also invest in ADP early, get at least 20.
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>>160282221
Are those... staggered L2s?
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>>160277748
I want to have a cute daughter too but I would arrange that someone abducts her when she hits puberty because teenager girls are the worst.
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>>160282628
Well that's broken as shit then.
Time tho unzip my Drang Hammer once again I guess
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>>160282692

No, they're spammed L2's.
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>>160282236
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>>160280748
o shit Wave
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post gwyndolin
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>>160282660
Nice
Does stats above 40 still useless?
Meta is SL100-125 too?
Any useless stat that should never be increased?

I just need to know this before starting
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>>160283267
CAN WE NOT?
MY DICK IS FUCKING SORE
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>>160283371
make it sorer
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What are /dsg/'s thoughts on dual wielding in DaS3?

Kinda bored with my spear turtle build, but I still love spears and would like to be able to use them in invasions. I was thinking maybe if I dual wielding, since spears don't really suffer from any downsides between 1H or 2H, it might be viable? I was thinking of using the black knight GS. It has the highest defensive stats for ultra weapons afaik (45 stability, 65% physical and otherwise 50 across the board) so it can reasonably function similar to a small shield, does huge damage without needing any buffing, doesn't weigh TOO much (for UGS's anyways) and in the offhand does a huge horizontal sweep (compared to the straight pokes of the spear). Feel like they would compliment each other better than say, an offhand yhorms.

Thoughts/suggestions?
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>>160283490
Get a GS instead
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pcfcbf where
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>>160283479
Give me that artist then
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>>160283479
sauce on image
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>>160283490

The ONLY reason to dual wield would be to mix a high range weapon with a low range weapon, a stabbing moveset with a wide slashing moveset, etc. imo
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>>160283598

I thought about it but GS's don't have poise HA when 1H'd to my knowledge, and aren't as long.

I mean I used to try this sorta shit with AGS in the past but then they nerfed that shit. Also I think the spear is better in the main hand so you can run people down if used in invasions, also the rolling 1HR1 donk on the head isn't too bad.
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>>160283680
>>160283704
don't tell the mods
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How do i turtle poke build
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How do I into enjoying DaS3? This game is so dreadfully mediocre.
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>>160283890
Hold L1
Press R1
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>>160283750
Well yeah that was the idea with the gargoyle FS + offhand BKGS. Main problem with spears are their one dimensional moveset, I like the BKGS because I believe it could also function reasonably like a small shield with 40 END, at least for straight swords and the like and for enabling turtlepoke backstabs.
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>>160283789
>GFS
That weapon literally no weakness.
Wielding a UGS IS the weakness.
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>>160283929
You don't, pretend the series never had sequels and come enjoy 1 with us
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>>160281804
Why bother with 66 str? All GS are better at 40/40 and 66/15 is basically the same stat investment
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>>160283826
oh god is that Germanspy
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>>160283960
GFS has no chance versus BK shield
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is collage man still around?
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>>160284149
Why aren't you using a shield yourself?
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>>160283890
your shield loses stability and absorption when you turtle poke, BKS with magic shield will still take around 75% of the incoming damage. It's better to just use a hyperarmor weapon like a claymore and take 100% in exchange for being able to dock half their health in a stunlock if that's your game. Shields are literally just for backstab fishing, and aren't even required for it. If you really want to use one, you're better off using it with a stance straightsword so you can hug people with the shield and catch them as they roll away with R1's, then use the stance thrust to go through people who are hyperarmor trading.

>>160283960
that is incorrect my good fellow

someone with a parry tool out is going to be more of a threat than someone with a BK shield
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>>160283890

You poke them while blocking shit and then when they inevitably unzip the caestus you run at them and feign running R1's over and over until they try to parry it and instead you just run at and around them and press R1 while holding L1 behind them, preferably with hornet ring equipped, until they put away the parry tool or more likely, die. Their other option is to attack into your shield at which point you tank 1-2 R1's and then roll back, recover your stamina, and run at them again. If they just keep doing that you eventually actually DO fire off a running R1 (which they've proven they won't parry), then they'll think you're doing running R1's again and will try to parry you, at which point you turtlepoke backstab them. When you turtlepoke for a backstab it uses a special animation that is much faster than a normal R1 and sucks them in faster, making it very difficult to escape. I think the range of spears (compared to thrusting swords) also plays a factor in sucking them into the backstab, but I don't know for sure.

Other than that: backpeddle. Backpeddling is your friend. The trick is managing your stamina properly and spacing, knowing when you can attack. In arena though it's mostly about punishing parry fishers over and over.
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>>160283826
Why is that pumpkin filled with fruit punch?
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Are they still good for bleed build ?
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What the heck is going on.
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>>160283929
You might be burned out on the series.
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>>160283890

https://www.youtube.com/user/enisle2004/videos

you're welcome
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>>160284336
Archdragon Peak is falling apart.
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>>160283960

The weakness is that it's shit for dealing with invasions/ganks. The UGS provides the needed crowd control.
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>>160284287
Meant to reply to >>160284149, not >>160283960
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>>160284317
What is your build friendo
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>>160284287
>someone with a parry tool out is going to be more of a threat than someone with a BK shield
Those are free frag because lmao backtab
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You are chillin at the Great Hollow with your girl Sieglinde then this motherfucker comes and slaps her ass.

What do you do?
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>>160284412
Wrong, DS1 and 2 feel just fine when I go back to them.
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>>160284654
nothing to be done, that probably killed her.
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>>160284654
Drop a prayer for her soul, she fuckin' ded.
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>>160284519
Anything will work in invasion/ganks as long you can oneshot the host.

>>160284654
We enjoy Estus soup filled with mushroom. Dungeon Meshi style motherfucker.
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>>160284654

succ shroom tbqh
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Does the follower sabre got a kick or the backflip thing ?
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>>160284715
What builds have you done in ds3?
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>>160284715
Well you are a meme then. Try taking out the nostalgia glasses and having fun the current game.
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>>160284582
only if they're fishing

And you can backstab people who are walking backwards with shield up, you can literally backstab anyone. Just keep walking diagonally towards them until they start walking backwards without facing you; since it's impossible to walk backwards without locking on, if they're walking backwards without facing you directly, that means you're in a different position on their screen. Once you know that you can just sprint up and backstab them and you'll get it to connect before they can do anything.
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>>160284560

Quality with 18 faith for the swordspear, I was mainly looking for the highest (physical) damage spear with good reach I could find for getting gold in arena because if it wasn't already apparent, I knew I'd be backstabbing parry fishers a LOT. It also has a lot of other benefits too though (having a horizontal slash while 1H'd is very useful, and of course the WA not being garbage like other spears). I was using 37 endurance but I'd suggest going up to the full 40 at meta level, sacrifice some VIG and maybe not go full 40/40. Honestly you can probably get away with using a BK shield for the most part instead of taking on the huge weight of the havel's.

You can do it with thrusting swords too, estoc is great for reach while quills are great for the high damage crits.
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Why are all the strongest weapons in this game not even good because they have a varied moveset? They're all just retarded R1 spam and their R2's are usually terrible
>Carthus Curved Sword
>Washing Pole
>Estoc
>Gargoyle Flame Spear
>Follower Sabre
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>wolf greatsword has UGS reach

lmao
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NG+ is so unsatisfying. Everything feels exactly the same if not easier.
I want enemies to be twice as dangerous, to require 2x effort to kill.
>inb4 use shitty/no armor, unupgraded weapons and don't level
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>>160284864

Kick, only the weapons that have Scimitar R1s have the backflip.
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>>160284087
I made a str build and wanted a a gs
the 15 dex is for gundyr's halberd
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>>160284717
>>160284786
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>>160284949

>scythe
>fallen knight armor

lmao
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>>160284654
Start picking up the remains
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Anyone want to watch DeS world record speedruns with me?
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>>160284871
PS4
>Profaned GS magic parrier
>Great Scythe sorceress
>Ganado cosplay (handaxe+pitchfork+torch)

PC
>Corvian Scythe bleed build
>Old King Greathammer build
>Greatshield build
>Ganado cosplay twink (handaxe+pitchfork+torch)
>The Flash cosplay (lightning fists+lightning miracles)
>wild king build (Leohart+WKGS)
>Dovahkiin cosplay (broadsword+compbow+Emit Force miracle)
>Yhorm's little brother (Storm Ruler+Yhorm's Great Machete)
>Harry Potter cosplay
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>>160284791
>anything
>oneshot

There are very few things that can one shot people, especially hosts, anon. Even a hornet riposte probably isn't going to kill a host with 40 VIG and potentially life ring as well, not without taking some damage first, even worse if they have tears.

Better to have high damage output combined with versatility so you can deal with a range of situations but still kill a host or phantoms in only a few hits. Honestly being able to fuck up phantoms immediately is usually the benchmark, not hosts, since the phantoms aren't embered.

>>160284936
>And you can backstab people who are walking backwards with shield up

Not anyone who knows what they're doing. That's like saying you can guardbreak anyone with their shield up if they just sit there with their guard up letting you hit them until they run out of stamina.

It's the same problem with parrying, it's good against bad kids but simply doesn't work against anyone who knows what they're doing. That's why most people invade at SL70 and below, because fighting against ganks isn't so bad when the people involved are idiots who R1 spam and who hold their guard up all the time without understanding backpeddling against a guy with a 2 handed straight sword out.
>>
O-oh.
>>
How much poise do I need to tank through all R1 attacks from a Greatsword? If I'm using a Great Hammer.

I know the poise values were buffed in the latest patch, but I'm not sure how many fewer points I could get by with.
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How much damage the follower torch wa does and does it have HA when two handed ?
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>>160285045

It doesn't have 1 handed HA though unfortunately.
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>>160283807
Gwyndolin is the reason Im at least 20% gay now
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>>160282221
>>160282628
>>160282765
already found one of you idiots doing this
Literally the entire match he just kept trying to do the combo
3 minutes of chasing this asshole around attempting to 'bait' me
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>>160285797
lmao
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>>160285797
someone got you mad enough lol
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>>160283336
There is no sl meta
Soul memory matches you based on how many souls you've ever gotten, ever. Level up at all possible opportunities and don't lose your bloodstain. Keeping your sl low means you'll be paired with people potentially a hundred levels above you because you have the same soul memory.
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>>160285797
>gotthards

Like you're any better lul.

That said, notice the BK Shield in the original webm. There's a reason for that. And the reason is 0 fucking poise HA even though it's a hammer because fuck you From.

That guy you fought was an idiot 2 handing it. Honestly in nearly full havels he probably had wolf ring on too and thought he did have poise HA and that's why he lost.
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>>160285797
So are Gotthards still frowned upon since the nerf? Did the nerf even really change anything? I mean theyre still left as straightswords with the best of paired weapons and the best of being a straightsword.
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>>160285797
>gottards
>buckler
>pointdown
This is fake right
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>>160285537
>Not anyone who knows what they're doing.
No, you can do it to literally anyone unless they unlock, in which case they wouldn't be "walking backwards," which I'd already stipulated as the required condition for doing what I'd said.

>It's the same problem with parrying
which is my point
saying "haha GS beat everything" is as retarded and newfaggy as saying "haha just parry everything". Anyone smart enough to play unlocked can beat the shit out of a greatshield, especially with something like carthus.
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>>160285492
My hexer/pyro playthrough was pretty fun. Pyro early game and get the izalith staff as soon as possible together with deep soul.
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>>160286009
They're slow enough to where the roll poke spam is now free parries.
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>>160283336
>Does stats above 40 still useless?

In DaS2 you get returns up to 99 on some stats like endurance.
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>>160285610
is Vordt especially weak to lightning or is that weapon+buff just silly strong
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>>160286009
>tfw newfriends will never experience the horrors of prenerf gotthards
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>>160286009
They're actually comparatively more useful than they were before since the L1's have an easier time breaking poise.
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>>160286054
>That face
Does that artist thinks Sirris is a dude?
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>>160285797
>point down
>make webm
What a tough guy
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>>160286009

They're still the literal longest SS's in the game, they're still straight swords, the L1's are all still insanely good (especially the running L1), it can still combo for a million spin2win damage, and the rolling L1 still works it's just a tad bit slower.

So yeah, they're still absolutely cancer. But I use a gargoyle FS and poke them from a distance and block their shit with a shield until they die so I'm not much better, really.
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>>160285537
oneshot the phantoms then fag
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>>160286161

That reminds me: Drang Twinspears still work and have even longer reach than the Gotthards, senpai. They're lowkey underground cancer. Sure their tracking is a bit worse but all the better to require a slightly higher skill ceiling.
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>>160283336
>Any useless stat that should never be increased?

I think I should mention this too. Unless you're doing a dex build you should leave leveling dex last. Dex scaling is only half as good as str. What this means is that C/C isn't a quality weapon in DaS2, C/A is.
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>>160285996
No, he started out using the shield, and I knew exactly what he was trying to do so I just out ranged him and played cautiously knowing I'd be 1 shot.

Then he went full tilt and started running around just trying to catch me with the weapon art.

It's a shit gimmick and I'm going to trash every one of you using it.
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>>160285910
>>160286108
Got it
Sounds better than DaS1, both in stats and SL pvp range
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>>160286354
twinspear is literally garbage
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I don't get why people complain about people with phantoms so much, are you guys just using shitty builds that can't combo an unembered phantom to death or are you running into 3 people swinging at once and expecting not to get blended?
I killed some guy in a single GCFO and then the other one died in a couple mace swings and then the host was totally worthless without them.
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>>160286462
If you're on scholar and going to the arena, there's soul level matchmaking that's +-5 levels difference.
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>>160286390
I see, going to keep away from dex weaps for now then
I hope they didnt fuckup my claymore in DaS2
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>>160286457
I hope you point down at me and put it into your youtube collage f᠎᠎᠎a᠎᠎᠎᠎mpai
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>>160286114

The latter. Raw DS Axe has incredibly high AR while maintaining incredibly high lightning AR as well, and then can be buffed with resin or lightning blade on top of all that. It's why it's a popular twink weapon.
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>>160286462
Regular DaS2
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>>160284126
yes
>>160275895
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoyRcGkDnJo
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>>160286610
Claymore is still great. Try power stancing it with Artorias's sword in left hand.
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>>160286575
My bad, I meant for >>160286741
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Anybody wanna join my adventure through Profaned Capital?
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>>160286457

It's really not that hard to bring more than 1 weapon to a fight, famalam. No one said drangs couldn't be played around, in fact they have plenty of weaknesses, it's just that if someone who knows what they're doing lands an R1 on you and the connection is decent, you're probably dead, so they're viable now and great for murdering people who don't know what the drang guy is trying to do.

It's like when I hornet backstab people who unzip the caestus against my pokey weapons, especially spears. I could say the same thing: he pulled out the parry tool and I knew exactly what he was doing so I ran at him feigning a running R1 until he threw out a parry and I punished him in recovery frames for it, it's a shit gimmick and I'm going to trash every one of you trying to parry, etc.
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>>160286970

Yes.
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>>160286871
Nice

Last question: Upgrading normal weapons is still better than going Magic/Lightning/Fire, etc, if you take good care of your str/dex stats, right?
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SL31, +4
Good stage for crystal sage coop?
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>>160282236
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>>160287126
early on elemental infusions can sometimes come out better if you're investing in health/endurance, but by the time those infusions readily available you'll probably be able to invest enough in str/dex to not need them, save for preinfused things you might find like the fire longsword or a heide knight sword
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>>160287031
Cool, give me like 10 minutes and I'll be at the bonfire.

Pass is dsg
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Bucket helms are garbage
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>>160287421
Shit taste.
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>>160287354
Very nice
Already downloaded DaS2 here, just need to kill the 4 Kings and Nito to finish DaS1 and then start the second game.
Thanks, my negro
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>>160287421
take that back right now anon
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>>160287005
It's literally a gimmick though. The entire plan is to hit someone ONE TIME with one of the slower shorter ranged weapons and you can infinite them. It's a big fucking stupid meme and now everyone is gonna be ruining the arena with it. But I guess it's 'fun' right?

The least you could do is go use it in invasions instead of ruining duels. We already have GFS users, gotta roll fast magic shitters and crossbow faggotry ruining the arena.
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>>160287562
What set is that?
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>>160287587
>complaining about arena in a game that wasn't originally balanced around 1v1
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So why does only one rapier have the off hand parry?
Why does the parry dagger block with l1 in the offhand?
Why do only some curved swords have an offhand parry while the other half assume I want to block with them?

How do these amateur inconsistencies even make it into the game, let alone get ignored as if they're ok for months after the game's release?
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>>160287668
one you cant get. an elite version of the cathedral knight set
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a lot of backlinks to replies on posts appear twice. anyone else got this? i didn't change anything
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>>160287710
Because DaS2 was an abomination, every single Linker of the Flame ever is right handed, Miyazaki cant do wrong, and offering full movesets in the left hand would be too confusing for the new players.
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Is there a list of parry frames and offhand parry weapons?

Not sure what I want to use but caestus has given me the most success so far but I'm just wondering if theres anything more AESTHETIC I can use that also has the same frames.
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How many pvp characters do you guys have?
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>>160287807
Try updating 4chanx and resetting it's settings
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>>160287693
Nice straw man
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>>160287710
Because muh superior ds1 mechanics. What Dark Ssuls 2? What's that?
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>>160287901

It's not even DaS1, it's something new DaS3 brought.
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OnlyAfro and Iron Pineapple are the only true (((pillars))) of the community.

Out of all the content creators, InfernoPlus is the best video maker because he doesn't fucking speak, at all.
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>>160288086
Limit Breakers is the best, get out
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>>160287875
Every fist/claw weapon has the same amount parry frames, you could pick any of those and be fine
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>>160287901
Ds1 didn't have parry dagger block
Ds1 had every curved sword and rapier parry in the offhand

Say what you want about Ds1's offhand system but at least it was consistent. Unlike this fucking supposed sequel which introduces more issues than it fixes
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>>160287587
Sounds right up where cancer should be. This is what you duelfags deserve
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>>160287901
nice FUCKING MEME, you SPERGLORD FAGSHIT
>So why does only one rapier have the off hand parry?
all rapiers parried offhand in 1
>Why does the parry dagger block with l1 in the offhand?
PD 1hl1 is a slash in 1
>Why do only some curved swords have an offhand parry while the other half assume I want to block with them?
all cs parried with 1hl2 in 1
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>>160287884
one, and one backup save with five remaining respecs from rosaria and like six titanite slabs
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>>160287710
Which rapier has an offhand parry?
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>>160288086
Limit Breakers>Otzdarva>Iron Pineapple>Malcolm Reynolds
everyone else is irrelevant
everyone
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>>160288383
This. Limit Breakers is hands down the best
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>>160285797
>buffed gotthards
>point down
Only way you could have made mote a fool of yourself is if you wore the poopypants set
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>>160288383
Emarrel is the best forever
I will fight you
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>>160288345
the plain rapier

and it's a fucking parry dagger animation not even the rapier one
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>>160287884
Had like 6@120 on my main account and 2@120 now on my family share. The other 4 slots on my main had invaders for lvl 72, 55, 30 and 15.
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>>160288383
>>Iron Pineapple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqXF1lADrX4
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PERSONAL COMPUTER!

FIGHT CLUB!

BOYFRIEND!
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>>160288639
Hey fuck you, Naruto and Beyblades was funny
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>>160288639
Fuck, I forgot to mention MrAlbinoLama
I'd rank him above Otz
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>>160288484
>buffed
they're infused

In this trinity of greatswords, flame spears and katanas you bitch at someone for using gotthards, which have been nerfed a long time ago, nice

what are some approved weapons then, you mug
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>>160288802
They're still SS and the longest ones.
Anyone pretending Gotthard's nerf only made them not be broken but still top tier is stupid
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>>160288802
>katanas
the only relevant katanas are WP and 2kat
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>your arena rank can drop
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>>160288740
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>>160289015
>caring about arena rank
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>>160289015
Nobody is that bad.
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>>160289034
be my pcfcbf
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>>160288940
>>160288986
still waiting, give me your super balanced approved weapons
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>>160289190
Only if you let me skin you alive and wear you.
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>>160289194
great wooden hammer
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>want to invade the catacombs
>sl40 recommend
>don't know what to build
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is there any way to invade a specific person with cheat engine in DS3? im currently hunting an alt+f4 ganker
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Is raw still the best infusion for a quality astora straight sword build?
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rate my 69.9% equip load
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>>160289194
There's nothing wrong with being a metafag anon, just accept that you're one and move on
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>>160287884
seven or so
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>>160289378
Nice pose, shit fashion. 100% minmax
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Welp, dat booty wrecked me. I didn't expect two bosses in a row. Her grab attack one-shot me.
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>tfw finally finding a good weapon that people don't use, then a youtuber makes a video on it
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>>160289378
onlyworksinthatparticularlighting/10
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>>160289443
>>160289306
That's exactly what I thought.
outside of obvious shit weapons anything would be complained about.
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>>160289619
>I didn't expect two bosses in a row.
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>>160275724
I used to love this set, until I found out about the pee pants. Fucking gross.
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>>160289015
arena rank was a mistake
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>>160289619
>dancer grabs you using her ass cheeks
>crushes your body with the power of goddess pelvis
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Would'st thou summon me?
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>>160289851
Cover your arms, no skin allowed
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>>160289619
W-what's that sticky white stuff?
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>>160289357
bump?
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>>160289851
Yes.

I got 80 something thousand souls on the line here. Fingers crossed. You still around Nana?
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>>160290048

Yeah, let's do this.
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>>160289357
Why would you do that? ASS is a buff carrier for casters and twinks. If you want decent damage and the looks of ASS, use anri's
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>>160290186
I think you're thinking of the SSS, which I'm using on my off-hand for exactly that
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>>160288086
Let's settle this :
God tier :
>Lobosjr
>Youtube ENB
>LimitBreakers
>Emarrel
>Zullie

Great tier:
>Otzdarva
>thepruld
>SunLightBlade
>Martyrsbrigade99

Tolerable-tier:
>Peeve
>rbFrosty
>DSP
>Sanadks
>VaatiVidya
>Peeve
>rbFrosty
>A German Fedora(his content is decent)

Whiner-tier:
>Oroboro
>Yukaslegion
>Scottjund

Projects abandoned halfway to completion-tier:
>Twitch ENB

Faggots who should die in a fire-tier:
>rest of Soulbrandt
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Why is invading so much fun.
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>>160289015
If you lose way too often, yes. Ranks are infant babby shit tier compared to DkS2 arena though
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>>160290337

Pretty good.
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You fought valiantly soldier.
We did it!
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>>160289624

Which one was it for you? For me it was the gargoyle FS, I still remember when everyone thought spears were a joke ez parry. Then jund turned my favorite class of weapons into washing pole 2.0, and he's STILL absolutely shit at spacing with them, it's a disgrace.
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>>160290424

Nice, it still counted as a win for me too.
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>>160290304
Raw ASS>SSS for carrying a buff

anris>ASS for unbuffed damage
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>>160290304
But the sss is an ugly piece of shit. No, I meant anri's.
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>>160290337
martyrsbrigade is a whiner too, but your nostalgia goggles won't let you see it.

cue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOpwrnfI6oU
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>Trying to do arena at lvl 60
>Nobody in matchmaking below lvl 80

Overleveled meta scrubs, all of you
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>>160290612
>>160290565
I really don't want to use Anri's, I've already done a luck build, now I want to try and play in specific with SSS and ASS, Maybe Gothards later in the game, undecided.

Please understand.
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Is 2kat best hollow or uninfused? I like the higher overall damage of uninfused with fire resin, but what do you guys think?
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>>160290789
Are you stupid or something? Who is gonna play through the arena for SL60 duels and brawls? All the fun at that SL is in invading and 80 is the bare minimum "serious PvP" meta.
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>>160290407
Because you go against pve babies who suck really bad, so you can have fun while making fun of them.
Basically, you are the bully now. Not that there is nothing wrong with it. It's exceptionally fun when you manage to kill 2 phantoms, a blue concord cuck and then the host shitting itself.
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>>160290660

That first clip is my all time favourite gank spank.
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>>160290459
the pickaxe, also Jund that made a video on it. i was using it for my peasant build and the poise and counter damage are nuts
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>>160290337
>DSP tolerable
The only reason to watch him is because he's cringeworthy.

>VaatiVidya tolerable
Yeah, if you like incorrect lore explanations.

Also where's anyone I mentioned, and the others missing?
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>pyro starts casting black serpent
>gets AGS WA to the face
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>>160290960
Yea There was a blue too, but I couldnt fit him in the webm
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>>160284654

>Emarrel
Doesn't deserve any recognition, hasn't made a dark souls video in 2 years
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>>160290831
>please understand
What the hell? Understand what? You don't need my blessing to make a build, just do it. Plug the stats in mugen and see
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can someone drop me 40 sunlight medals on ps4 because honestly I'm too lazy for this I just want the trophy for miracles
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>>160290948
uninfused with bleed resin/fire bundles unless you already have a hollow build and want to use it on that

>>160291152
can't drop covenant items or miracles have fun with those medals
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>>160291152
lmao
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>>160291043
DSP is in the Tolerable tier because it's fun to watch /dsg/ troll him in Dark Souls. He's absolutely miserable.
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>>160291095
Are you serious my dude
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>>160290660
>crystal great scythe
and closed
fuck cheaters
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>>160291152
can't drop covenant items, famalam

gotta do it the hard way like the rest of us
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>>160291289
Are you? With your stupid /v/p/ memes in a completely unrelated general?
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>>160291418
Not even the guy who posted but please understand
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>>160291305
Why do you think /dsg/ sucks his cock? Just cuz it black? He whines and cheats like 90% of the people here.
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>>160291289
Well, excuse me that I don't keep up with the dankest jap memes
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>Distinctively shaped helmet worn by the Knights of Smelter
>Often ridiculed for its anus-like shape, infuriating the country's proud knights, but the masterfully forged curved design makes it very effective for deflective blows.
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>>160291487
Get off it dude
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Rate me
Claire if you see this it's already too late
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>>160291583
how do you put this on
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>>160291632
What do you want with t. Claire?
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>>160291734
I played some arena matches with a Claire in the morning
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>>160289619
>fight Dancer
>get turned on during the fight
>concentration goes to hell
>have to rub one out to be able to fight her properly
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>>160290960
hard to feel like a bully when the host has so many advantages, i outlived 3 fucking blues in an invasion today
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>>160291729
the helms of the knights of smelter are forged around their heads
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>>160291095
I think you might be retarded
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>>160291583
God, that looked so fucking ridiculous, I'm glad it's go and has stayed go so far. Why couldn't we get cool ranch helm, it looked amazing.
>>160291884
I think you may be a faggot
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>>160290953
Sounds like you suck and can't beat the game unless you're overleveled
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>>160291257
I want that armor
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>>160290337
>Limit Breakers, letsplayjr and other random trash
>God Tier
>not even 100k subscribers
>no video with a million views

LITERALLY FUCKING WHOS
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>Walking side ways is perfectly enough to avoid throwing knives
>For some reason isn't enough to avoid tiny magic missiles even when they're 50ft away from you
Why is the phantom range and hit boxes in this game so fucking memetacular
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>realize I haven't done dungeon & profaned invasions
What SL range is this, SL50/+6?
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>>160292210
>popularity defines quality
Hurrr
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>>160292053
I can beat the DLC at 60 easy but I don't want to use the arena at SL60 because I would rather invade than fight in the arena populated almost exclusively by people who want more structured PvP and thus use their finished PvP builds in it, which are just about always going to be 80+ because that's when most people consider their builds ready.

I would much rather do Aldritch pvp or invade the SL60 areas than go to the arena because you get a specific kind of PvP there that people don't bother with at SL60 when there are delicious shits to wipe in the base game. When I go through the DLC I either want the loot and ez souls or I wanna rush to the arena.
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>>160292541
Generally. The better your videos, the more people you get watching them, and the more people subscribe for notifications on new videos.
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>>160292665
Or you can be a meme uploader with lowkey dark souls videos like Albino.

>nigger got 3k subs over the course of 1 week because of one trump video
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whats the best place to co-op bosses at sl100?
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>>160292753
No name loser who's most popular video is why he quit Dark Souls 3
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>>160292665
Crestfallen makes some of the most interesting dark souls content I've seen and has like 100 subs. Oroboro is the one of the biggest and most obnoxious faggots I've had the displeasure of seeing and he has a fuckton.
>>160292936
Anything past road of sacrifices should be good for ng+. You might catch some people earlier or even in the kiln.
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Okay, who and why the cancer?
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>>160293220
Oroboro is quite entertaining to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYkMp8kU56U
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>really like how Dark Sword moveset and looks
>really like Carthus curved sword moveset and looks
>really interested in trying Gotthard
>Don't want to be a shitter

fucking From Software just balance your shitty game so I can use anything without remorse
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>>160293320
>I really like the most broken weapons in the game the most I s-swear!
Yeah anon, we all do...
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>>160293220
Oroboro was interesting when he didn't talk and just posted shitmail he got while pvping in the Woods.

He's about as washed up as OnlyAfro is now.
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>>160293320
The only way I would justify using those are cosplay or RP since they look really nice on some sets. Won't even be mad if someone pulled a really good Cathus Skelly cospoor
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Anything more satisfying than a DC?
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>>160293320
>>really like how Dark Sword moveset and looks
Use the full moveset ten, not just 1hr1
>>really like Carthus curved sword moveset and looks
Don't just 2hr1 theb
>>really interested in trying Gotthard
Don't just rollpoke then
>>Don't want to be a shitter
Don't be one
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POST WEAPONFUS
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>>160293559
If I put the Dark Sword in my left hand and 1hL1 is that better?
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>>160292753
>Albino

Literally a dumb nig who tried to ride the robbie rotten memetrain for subs because he prefers DaS2 since it didn't rupture his anus as hard as DaS3

I would put money down on the wager that he is the one constantly shilling DaS2 and causing shitflinging contests, the worst part is he probably wouldn't even do it for (you)s, just genuine shit taste
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>>160293697
>blocking with dark sword

If it fancies you, sure
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Are you REAL invaders?

>Well... uh, technically, ah... na.

Have you ever killed a good guy? Like a... like a real sunfag?

>Na.

Have you ever tried a false white ring?

>Na... na.

Alright! I can see that I will have to teach you how to be invaders!
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>>160293559

Why should I gimp my movements when FS is the one who should be balancing the game
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>>160294054
fuck off afro
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>>160290337
Yung Maestro is Great Tier.
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Reminder that kicks are for dicks and parries are for fairies. Real men bash each other to death.
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So should I just install CE already or what?

Like him or hate him one of the most popular streamers in the community constantly talks about how he uses CE and openly brags about it, even. Even after the softban wave he doesn't seem to give a single fuck.
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>>160294180
Here's a little lesson in faggotry!
This is going down in PvP!

If you want to be invader number one, you've got to use a washing pole on the run!

Now follow my lead, and sneak around, be careful when you make your mound!
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>>160293502
A tongue
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>>160293963
>i dont like this uploader so he is the boogeyman
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>>160293573
>exile greatsword
>use fire bundle
>become this nigger for 10 seconds
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>>160294379
>>160294180
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>>160294379
>You've got to use a washing pole on the run!
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>>160294332
i dont think there will be any consequences if you use it on a familyshare. not having to farm and do estus-gathering busywork for every playthrough makes the game a lot more fun
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>>160294468
Who's that semen demon
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>>160294462
>Grape casts warmth
No, don't cast that!

We are number 1!
Hey!
We are number 1!
Hey!
We are number 1!

Ha ha ha!
Now look at this Lloyds, that I just found!
When I say go, be ready to throw!
>Talisman noise
Throw at HIM, not ME!
Eugh, let's try a different meta.
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>>160293286
>DMB WP
I don't think I have seen that before. But how?
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>>160294603
Phoebe Terese from The Magic School Bus
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>>160294332
Whats Miyazaki gonna do? Personally ban him forever? Nobody cares if you just use CE to make builds, but dont complain if you get caught. Literally every big DaS content creator uses/used CE, and they ALL got banned when the wave hit. But now theyre unbanned or something, I know I got unbanned.
Nobody really cares. Saves a lot of time, thats for sure. You can get an entire build ready in minutes instead of a few hours fighting the same PvE enemies all over again.
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>>160294589

How the fuck does family share work anyways? I've heard about it before but idk how the fuck that works or how to do it.

Can I play on an alternate account and if I get banned it's just that account that gets banned, and not my original main account with all of my other games on it?
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>>160294385
I already got two from the blue though :^)
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>>160294403
Shishio uses katanas, my dude.
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>>160294763
He uses swords that have been stained with the fat and blood of his enemies. Do you give a shit now faggot?
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>Smough was a cannibal
>Aldritch used to eat men
>when you kill Aldritch you get Smough's stuff
Smough became Aldritch?
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Ok, I just started this today after going through Bloodborne. Played for a couple of hours and satisfying but will take some getting used to... That guy with the katana must have literally killed me 10+ times.

Can someone recommend me a class/build?

So far I've tried knight. It's ok - without the shield I'd be fucked, but I want armour where I can see my character's face. Would be good to be belt to try a range of weapons, spells etc. later on.
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>>160294956
Aldrich ate Smough
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>>160294849
I give a big shit you unsuferable cunt
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>>160295024
>I want armour where I can see my character's face
Kill yourself my man.
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pcfc
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>>160294956
>Aldritch used to eat men
When you fight him I'm pretty sure he's in the middle of digesting a man.
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>>160295024
I don't think this game is for you.
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>>160295165
Gwyndolin is a female (male), thank you very much
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>>160295024
>but I want armor where I can see my character's face
Shit taste but you can get one helmet like that soon-ish as a drop from the soldiers at the High Wall.
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>>160295024

This game is piss-easy after clearing BB + TOH, how do you even have any problems at all? And why would you need a shield?
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>>160295024

Just take off your helmet.
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>>160294956
No because Aldrich was originally a cleric and Smough is just a executioner. Aldrich is in the cathedral because he just recently ate Smough and ruminating on his meal because a fat prey that ate good must be a delicacy for him.
>>160295101
>unsuferable
You got that one right. It's nice that I'm not suffering from being illiterate.
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>>160295367
You take a flat Defense drop from that. Literally no reason not to have at least something in every slot since rags give the same flat Defense as superheavy plate armor.
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>>160295162

bf?
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>>160295405
Oh shit you got me :^(
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>Saves are all in a single file so you can't swap single characters in and out
Gosh darn it to heck
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Why is Archdragon Peak not under the affect of the Darksign Sun? I'm seeing a MOON here, a MOON.
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So, if I summon the Fire Keeper after the Soul of Cinder, then kill her during the cutscene and then decide not to go into NG+ immediately, will she be gone from Firelink Shrine?
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>>160295508
>used "because" twice
>didn't get called out for it
I gave that one for you. I'm so sorry anon.
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I'm going in blind never having done a faith build or bought a miracle in Demon's Souls.

Anyone have any tips or experience in doing a faith run in Demon's? Gonna do some kind of blessed weapon but unsure about stats yet, or amor. I'm going female because waifu you fucking faggots
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How do I into medium shield parries (lothric knight) in DaS3?
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>>160295691
I don't give a shit since english is not my first language
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>when you sacrifice 98% of your HP for that one hard counter
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>>160295758
Press L2 5 seconds before an attack
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>>160294636
Now watch, and learn! Here's the catch!
He'll run down this hall into my lifedrain patch!
HAHAHAHA!

WHAT ARE YOU DOING
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>>160295758

More on prediction so add a little more delay on your parries. Quit trying to do it on reaction and just toss them after whiffs, during combo or straight-up running into a attack instead of using running attack.

>>160295792
It wasn't mine either.
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>>160295998

Alrighty. Is it really as unreasonable to parry with like people say? I really want a 100% physical block shield but I"m seriously considering using an iron round shield instead for the small parry frames while still having decent (67%) physical block and 62 stability.
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>>160295856
>Level 128
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>>160295659
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>>160295997
Now watch, and learn! here's the deal!
You slip and and slide with this Quickstep skill!
Ha ha ha ha!
>Redsun quicksteps into an AoE attack
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
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Guys, I'm going to try a low level, faith based PvP-build.

How am I looking? I have no idea what I'm doing.
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>>160295659
no, not going to newgame basically keeps everyone under the ipression that you never finished the final boss, save for yuria if you summon her in the fight; she despawns and leaves her equipment behind.
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Did we ever figure out the brackets for the arena?
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>>160295646
Because Archdragon Peak exists in a different timeline.
You can see Archdragon Peak from Lothric, but you can't see Lothric from Archdragon Peak. ADP is possibly before Lothric Castle appeared near Lordran.
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>>160294728
vertebra shackle
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>>160296542
>but you can't see Lothric from Archdragon Peak.
You can
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>>160296346
stop posting this
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Do FCs still happen or are we dead game?
Haven't been around for a while
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>>160296542
In addition: Consumed King's closet won't show the Darksign sky either. This might seem like an oversight, but there's snekman shit in there and it also leads to the most timefuckery area, which is the Untended Graves/Dark Firelink.
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>>160296791
>Dark Firelink and Ludleth's dimensional fuckery will not be explained in DLC2 because it will star a brand new literally who villain and bring in more questions than it answers
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>>160296736
When there are enough people in the mood for them
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What would you want to be the second DLC?

Dark Souls III: Sulyvahn of the Deep
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>>160296736
Everyday or so, yeah
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>>160296736
of course
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>>160296984
You already wrote what I want
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>>160295720

Start Temple knight(this will also give you the best starting armor), go to 5-1 as soon as you can, get the Blessed Mace+1, come back, go into Shrine of Storms, kick ass with your Mace and save St. Urbain.

Then do 3-1 to get poison cure items, then head off to 5-2 to get the Mirdan Hammer / Large Sword of Moonlight.
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>>160296718
dont tell me what to do...
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>>160296183

I had to get a few extra Vit for the fashion, son.
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>shitting on gank
>steam dies
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160296984
>Sulyvahn comes back
His voice actor is actually terrible and doesn't fit the role at all
But no, Sulyvahn won't be coming back.
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>>160296871
>>160296984
>Second DLC comes out
>No Angels
>Too much lore on the Profaned Flame and Deep in the main game already for them to get a DLC, so the community will never be able to agree on what they are
>Will be some 'literally why should I care' plot
>More Londor wanking but nothing we want to see like Primordial Serpents
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Is there an updated version of pic related yet?
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>>160297439
If you go to Londor you'll probably see Kaathe and he'll suck your dick if you decided to become the lord of hollows. Friede brings it up if you took that ending.
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>>160297402
>implying you can truly beat a man who summons his own phantom from across the multiverse
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>>160296984
I want it to be good.
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>>160295319
I guess it's just an adjustment period. I'm used to more stamina and an aggressive playing style from BB, I was impatient..

Anyway - should I just go for a quality build? Do I need to dedicate a lot to the spell classes for them to be effective?
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>>160296240
pls respond
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>teammate sucks so much dick they just ragequit and go afk after they manage to go 0-5
>teammate is using the great mace
>teammate doesn't spawn
post your pet peeves in arena
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we in here
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>>160298408
700hp mages
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>>160298408
>One person left before match starts when matchmaking suddenly cancels
>Teammate doesn't spawn
>Other team has some caster fag who smashes you with a chaos frisbee or crystal soul spear every single time your eyes are off them
>Anon on /dsg/ doesn't like me using a great mace when I'm on his team
>Tears of Denial
>Member of either my or enemy team just runs away endlessly at low health until their team mate gets a kill that refills their estus
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Hey /dsg/, I'm thinking of making a DS2 playthrough dedicated to wearing the full jester costume and nothing else. What weapon should I use? I'm hoping to eventually get the Channeller's Staff but what else?
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>>160298974
Double pyro flame.
There's no alternative.
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>>160298396
Faith builds are only useful for damage at low levels. If you expect to do damage with spells, you'll only be using Lightning Stake, and you wont be as good as a pyromancer at that level.
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>>160297638
I've heard people claim that Yuria's dying words if you kill her are more accurately translated from the Japanese as, "Kaathe, your dying wished went unfulfilled."

Not sure if that's true or not though.
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Post Ashen Ones
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>>160298446

Told you it works, lol. You should still really consider using a BK Shield or WK Greatshield with it though, you're generally just trying to land that first R1 on everyone, which is a lot easier since they buffed the attack animation of hammers to be faster and take a nice big step forward so the reach is a lot more reasonable.

Main problem I have with it is that it can be difficult to get in there against a good straight sword user (or other similarly fast small weapon), since you have 0 fucking poise HA and if they hit you first they'll knock you out of the attack animation every time. Find a way to deal with that and you're golden (for me it mostly involves a lot of backpeddling)
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>>160299192
I am mostly gonna rely on buffs, dead again, and such shenanigans, as well as dex melee. Not gonna be using projectile spells, as I have a different character for that.
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>>160299335

mmmmm, you lookin' fine, girl. *smacks lips*

where you live, wit cho fine ass?
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>>160298581
>until their team mate gets a kill that refills their estus
You only get refill when you kill, if your teammate kill, only he gets.
I've got the last hit after running around and making the other team mad a lots of times though.
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>>160299415
Dead again is trash don't bother. Waste of FP, time, effort, attunement and points
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>>160299523
WE
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Would you summon him ?
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>>160299651
WUZ
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Hello /r/leddit, here's my blog post.

I have a fever, lost my voice because of it, and now I'm dead inside.

And now I'm going to play SotFS.
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>>160299090
That's boring though. There's gotta be something better.
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>>160298581
The great mace is the worst in class and inferior in every way to any other GH. It's deus vult shitter bait and a personal insult from Miyazaki to all Strfags. There's slightly suboptimal like the painting sword, the falchion, scimmy, bastard sword, etc, and then there is the great mace. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so terrible and gimpy, especially if you get shit on while using it and can't make up for it.
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>>160300075
>painting sword
>slightly supoptimal
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>>160300296
so what is it then, REALLY suboptimal?
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Archdragon Peak is the Northern Undead Aslyum right?

>prisoners locked away for thousands of years after DS1 and the gatekeeps died
>only thing to do is to meditate
>ascend

Plus the area opposite to the Nameless King literally looks like the area where you left the Aslyum in DS1
>>
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http://dakkpasserida.tumblr.com/post/153211010857/i-found-a-tts-voice-that-was-perfect-for-an-audio
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>>160300296
So I get that no one uses the painting sword but did you know it can stunlock for an absurd amount of time? I ran into a guy in the arena using it and he kept trying to I think WA me with it. He wasn't hitting me so I just walked up and let him. Stupid thing did practically no damage but stunlocked me for 5 or 6 hits. If it did reasonable damage it might be a fun weapon to use in FCs.
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>>160300075
don't care :^)
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>>160300296
It's fun and has a unique move and is useful for parrying or offhand use. Super niche and short but not totally garbage or
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>>160300846
Is this the DLC?
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>>160275267
Picked up Dark Souls 3 and I feel like I fucked up something.

I found Anri in the catacombs twice, and talked to her and exhausted dialogue twice. I didn't find Horace anywhere in the catacombs, so I didn't think anything of it and proceeded to kill the boss.
Then I found the secret path down the collapsed bridge, and ended up finding Horace in the cave.

I went back to tell Anri, but I didn't find her there. She left a prism stone, tho.

Without too many spoilers: Did I fuck the questline up by killing the big skelly man or is this how it's supposed to go?
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You didn't fuck up the questline exactly, just changed it a bit.
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>>160301323
Ok thanks, I'm glad.

I'm just having flashbacks here to previous souls games where I miss a single NPC appearance and the NPC seems to vanish from the game completely
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>>160301037
The knights can actually use it and they have a unique WA no other weapon fills the role of, yet another example of Miyazaki cucking us. It's just bait for crusaderfags trying to emulate the OG church knights, same with the cathedral GS which does strike damage but is low tier on the UGS hierarchy
>>
Somebody kink enough to drop an avelyn?
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>>160301483
I will. Where you want to meet?
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>>160301216
You somehow managed to fumble your way in to doing it correctly. Good job!
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>>160301473
I'm not a le deus vult memer, I swear. I just thought the Cathedral Knights were very cool and wanted to emulate them by using their weapons, even if they do suck. I've also wanted a great mace since Dark Souls 1 when I tried to do a Berenike cosplay and had to use a tiny little mace.
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I heard the Way of White Corona got buffed.
By how much? Is it worth using now?
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>>160301483
Yeah hold up gimme a second to back up my save. Add wesgizmo365 on steam
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>>160301576
>>160301694
sure, first bonfire of dlc, password dsg
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>>160301596
>I tried to do a Berenike cosplay and had to use a tiny little mace

Oh man I know that feeling
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>>160301783
You want it upgraded or nah? Cause it looks like you're getting two
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>>160301659
It went from 50 damage to 70. Just accept that miracles and faith will never, ever be viable again. It'll be years before the DS2 lightning spear backlash is over.
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>>160291305
Is it impossible to get a crystal great scythe legitimately?
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>>160301898
Sure why not.
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>>160302023
Did they change the stagger duration at all or was it purely a minuscule increase in damage?

I remember it doing fuck all for stagger
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>hit someone with caestus before getting hit by the followers sabre
>immediately r1 out of stun
>his start up is quicker than mine
>????????
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>>160297402
>voice actor
Am I missing something?
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>>160302468
so you're confused about sabre being faster than caestus?
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>>160301898
thanks man
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>>160302061
Aight. Have fun with the rest of the weapons too.
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>>160301473
> cathedral GS which does strike damage but is low tier on the UGS hierarchy
You can't even imagine my disappointment when I found out everything about it sucks and strike damage+look isn't even worth it.
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>>160280748
o shit Wave
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>>160302623
I just started using it yesterday
I swear the hitbox is smaller than the model
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>>160301171

Yes.

You're going to get filtered now, so I won't be able to respond further.
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>>160302470
>he didn't unlock the boss fight cutscene
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>>160302535
im confused how any weapon is faster than fists
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>>160302887
the attack animation is slower
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>>160303053
no way
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>>160303102
of the fists i mean
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>>160302763
It looks like Bloodborne though

>>160302776
Pretty sure he has no lines
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Dead thread? Whered everyone go?
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SL 29, WL +4, at Anor Londo. I need 18 more ears for DMB. Did I fuck myself out of invasion range for WotB? Ear drop rate from the Silver knights is so fucking pathetic, even at 360 item find.
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>>160304203
Crying myself to sleep
>>
What would you say if I told you that my waifu is the cutest in the entire existence of /dsg/
>>
Can someone post a Dark Souls 3 roll chart
>>
Lothric Knight Sword

Yes or no?
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>>160304203
its tuesday night
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Too busy invading scrubs, sorry. If you want something to do, make new webms and post them.

I'm still pissed we only get 3MB for webms, trying to do anything anywhere near half a minute is fucking hellish.
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>>160305287
you're a fucking faggot for using a GFS at all.
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>>160305483
Just parry it :^)

git gud faggot lol'ing at ur life
>>
It's just me or this game was more balanced at launch? The pvp is such a mess right now.
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>>160305287
t. faggot Aerthas scum hacker
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>>160305707
I love getting notifications on someone calling out my name when I'm not even playing.

Always great to see what people will falseflag as me even though I ALWAYS wear the same edge armor.
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>tfw DS3 PvE as a sorcerer
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>>160305707
What? Doesn't Aerthas usually wear that faggy leonhard mask and cheat in arena/fight clubs?
>>
Anyone here have the mark of the conqueror copypasta?
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>>160305826
>>160305870
Fuck you, cheater. Your webms are shit. Stop posting them.
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>>160305910
I love how mad you are at an imaginary person :^)
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With the time ive been farming darkwraith for slab i could start ng+ and get a fucking slab from another stray demon

Jesus, with the rng+ ring and 10 humanity i got 40 chunks and no slab yet.
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>>160305287
medium shield parrying was a mistake
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>>160305967
Alright? Stop posting them though.
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>>160305287
>>160305910
>>160305910
>>160305967
>>160306037

>someone that is better than you posts a webm
>"It's Aerthas!"

Kind of proud.
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Playing DS2 for the first time it released and after a few hundred hours of DS3

Holy shit is it terrible. It's floaty, the difficulty relies too much on "lol, more enemies"
B-team is so fucking right it's sad
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>>160305681
Launch balance was fucking awful.

The meta is a mess right now because there's a tonne of shit that's viable, and the meta is at peak diversity. That means all the raging faggots like you who used nothing but a carthus sword for 8 months are totally lost against a multitude of playstyles you've never had to figure out until now. It will take people some time to adjust to the fact that more than 6 weapons are usable, that's all
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>>160306102
>meta is at peak diversity

Thanks for the laugh.
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>>160306083
Sure showed me by quoting all those posts.

You forgot the webm is of some dude killing a really bad player though.
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>>160306185
You do know Aerthas doesn't even exist right?
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>>160306232
Oh man my mind is blown right now. Fuck off, retard.
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>>160305287
that first GS swing was pretty dangerous though
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>>160306232
le mind games meme
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>>160306102
It was better than now.

The difference is at launch a bunch of things were super strong while the rest was just viable.
Now the number of stronger things has gone up, but the rest has become garbage or a straight downgrade from something else.
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>>160306265
>>160306313
>le hakur boogieman in a silver mask is coming to get me!

Please tell me this is bait
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>>160306102
this is correct

though UGS are technically less viable than they were on launch, but thats predominantly due to the AGS nerf, which was more of a fix than a nerf.
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>>160306345
Just fuck off aerthas
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>>160306345
Are you autistic or something? Because you keep replying to posts about you as if it fucking matters.
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>Ds3 is made up of BB assets
>One of the bosses in DLC2 will be Loran Darkbeast tier with a mad as fuck wank demon shit tier camera making lock on retarded as shit
>Another boss will borrow from Orphan and have a batshit crazy phase 2 with a full healthbar again full of smashes, jumps and generally punishing any sort of methodical rolling
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>>160306345
le denial meme
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What's goin' on, /DSG/?
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>>160306404
>DLC2 Final Boss
>It's Blueflame Friede
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>>160306373
Greataxes are actually viable weapons and the closest there is to a greatsword hardcounter, which puts ultra-users in a pretty good spot. Just don't forget your poise.
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>>160306373
All ultras are now less viable than they were at launch. There's no reason to use ultras right now if you can just use a greatsword for about the same damage, more speed and less weight, meaning you have more poise than most ultra users because they have barely any equip load left after equipping their 1 ton weapon.

The only ultras that are somewhat viable are the very light ones, like great club and zweihander.
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>>160306336
>""""viable""""
when will this meme die

this is just a phantom distinction people invent when they want to ignore the fact that the top tier is small

>uh yeah I know metaknight is broken in brawl, but look at all those VIABLE characters!
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>>160306182
Quite true though.
A lot of things are viable to play against decent players.
GS, curvedz, spears, rapiers, straightswords, halberds, katanas all have more than one good and usable weapon for pvp.
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How do you guys hold your controller while playing DaS3?

Being able to fight while unlocked is really important when trying to fight ganks, but I'm used to holding my xbox 360 controller in the standard way (just index fingers to work the shoulder buttons, left thumb switching between using the left thumbstick or d-pad, right thumb switching between pushing buttons or controlling the camera with the right thumbstick). Trying to do stuff like run or dodge roll while moving the camera around using only my right thumb has been a complete shit show.

So I've started practicing, at least while running away, by switching my grip so I could hold down B to run away while using my thumb to control the camera at the same time. And now today, I've started trying to have my middle finger take the place of my index finger to be able to control movement/camera/abxy buttons/attacks at the same time.

Is this the "claw grip" I've heard about before? Or is there even more advanced shit to get into? Because controlling the camera at all times seems pretty damn important, even though it feels weird and I need to get used to it.
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>>160306570
vi·a·ble
ˈvīəb(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: viable

capable of working successfully; feasible.

>>>/school/
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>>160306497
>Blueflame Friede is secretly Friede's 4th phase but locked behind DLC2
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>>160306540
>All ultras are now less viable than they were at launch. There's no reason to use ultras right now

So they're exactly as viable as they were on launch?
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>>160306384
>>160306381
>>160306406

>constantly talking about someone that doesn't exist makes them exist
>no proof that they even exist
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>>160306651
Then there are just as many viable weapons as there were beforehand, because broken SS has been "capable of working successfully" since launch you retard
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>>160306703
le mind games mémé
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>>160306680
Even worse. They nerfed them.
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>>160306680
AGS was a beast when it was broken.
>Rolling R1 comes out fast as fuck
>Unparriable
>Does thrust damage
>Trades for half HP
>70% of their HP if it wasn't a tryhard player build
I wish I could have my fun back
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>>160306703
I guess you must be going through some sort of existential crisis. Which is fine. Just go do it somewhere else, faggot.
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>>160306269

True, mostly just getting used to using a claw grip and trying to practice it for the first time, honestly I should have gone for backstabs more (I did do that later to finish him off to be fair). Trying to control the camera, abxy, and shoulder buttons all at the same time all the time, it's tough getting used to but only gonna learn by practicing and maybe losing while trying to use a new style.

People are often awful at parrying GS's because they're slower, so many caestus shitters in particular don't know how to delay their shit and parry way too early and get rekt. Still not entirely sure whether a GS or UGS is better to use in my offhand though.
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>>160306680
At least they had true hyperarmor before. Now they lose dick measuring against greatswords wearing havels.

They weren't very good, but got worse. That's not to mention things like the BKGA which got nerfed into oblivion.

>>160306529
You mean Yhorm's and Yhorm's alone. Use anything shorter and you'll get outranged by almost anything.

>>160306570
Retard
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>>160306871
Wish they kept all the broken shit in the game. Game would be funner.
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>>160306967
>true hyper armor
>that can break randomly during fights because of some badly implemented poise system
It's somewhat consistent now so I consider it an improvement at least with how it's handled.
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>>160306967
Yhorm's, DSGA, GMach and EarthSeeker are all longer than greatswords while having almost identical startup, and all have naturally higher poise health and poise damage. Yhorm's and DSGA are pure strength weapons, meaning they significantly out-damage greatswords for literally half the stat investment. Great Machete and Earth Seeker are less good, but the former is light and long while the latter can combo 2H consistently.
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why the fuck does yhorm's machete always stun me for 2 hits but people usually escape after my first hit with it
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>>160307008
Yeah, look at this shit >>160306967
Almost 650dmg in a fucking rolling R1 that had a long as fuck range.
And that was without resins.
I loved running around with bundles before going for the roll.
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>>160307279
I also loved spin sweep on glaive.
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>>160307225
God hates fags
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>>160307225
Because you don't scream loud enough when it hit you
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>>160306232
>>160306265
>>160306313
>>160306345
>>160306381
>>160306384
>>160306406
>>160306703
>>160306830
>>160306879

Would you all kindly fuck off and let me play overwatch in peace.
>>160306703
I exist and you can fuck off.
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>>160306967
>Retard
No, you.

expanding the top tier should be the only goal of gamebalance, either by bringing down the top or by bringing up the bottom

claiming a bunch of mid-level weapons are """"viable"""" then complaining that some things are too powerful is retarded. If they're actually """"viable"""", what the fuck do you have to complain about? Ultimately when anything's allowed, there's the top tier, then there's the not-top tier. The word """"viable"""" on this board is used as a cop out so that you can point out how other weapons are top tier without appearing to complain about your own, so that you won't get told "git gud" when you point out that some weapons are shit. It's a preemptive defense mechanism used by hipsters who can't bring themselves to use anything anyone else has, lest they lose their special snowflake status.
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>>160307673
Will you please calm down
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>>160307673
Turbo retard.
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>>160307790
>u mad? haha I learned that from 9gag when I was 10, it's still clever
less a meme than the word """"viable"""" I guess
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>>160307334
They should have just nerfed the smash damage a little instead of making it not connect. Shit was so good.
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>>160307881
settle down my friend
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>>160307935
>>160307847
learn to play, my friend
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>>160307673
I came here to laugh at you
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>>160307985
I came here expecting counterargument instead of misused /m/ memes
whoops
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>>160307673

Is this Ghru serious?
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>>160307673
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>>160307673

Mainly they should give every weapon a "niche" that it's better than other weapons at. Take curved swords for example. Maybe because pontiff knight CS is shorter than carthus and doesn't have bleed, you make it do more damage than carthus, or carthus CS does less than it. Have stuff like one weapon is the longest of a class but does less damage, one has less reach but does more damage, one is faster than others at the cost of reach and damage, maybe one is kinda in the middle of reach and damage but has some really useful WA, maybe something weighs more as the price for better stats, etc.

The main problem is you have weapons that are literally just better in every way than all other weapons in their class. A good example is CCS vs. Follower's Sabre, now they're both meta but they have their own niche. CCS is a little longer and does a little more damage and has bleed, while sabre has an insanely more powerful WA than the carthus. One isn't "strictly better" than the other.

That's what we need for weapon balance. Everything is "OP" you could say, but in different ways so nothing is strictly better than something else, they're all just good at different things.
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>>160308183
That's literally the opposite of what the meta is right now.

One thing being a upgrade over another isn't even limited to weapon class.
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>>160308145
>>160308128
>I use a scimitar instead of CCS, so I'm not a faggot!
>It's just viable okay!

>>160308183
Exactly; if everything is OP, nothing is OP.

>>160308307
So? There really don't need to be more than maybe two of each weapon type, save for the versions that are actually really different. I'd rather have one top tier weapon exist for each class than have every single curved sword be equally powerful.
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Has the Souls series achieved the Zelda Cycle?

>DaS2 comes out
>Its apparently shit
>DeS is now godlike
>DaS1 is now better than DaS1

>DaS3 comes out
>DaS2 is now godlike
>DaS1 is considered archaic, but good
>DeS is mostly outdated

And now when DaS4 comes out, dumb niggers like Inferno "I can only use Carthus Sword because i'm bad" Plus and Albino "I resort to Robbie Rotten and trump videos for easy views" Lama are going to backpedal impossibly fucking hard and DaS3 is suddenly going to be good again

Fuckin queers
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>>160308435
Jesus, go back to school your reading comprehension is terrible.
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>>160308513
>DaS1 is obviously better than DaS2*

Is what I meant by that fourth line
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>>160308538
at least I'm better at the game
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>>160308627
Ok lucifer
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>>160308307
>That's literally the opposite of what the meta is right now.

I know that, I'm saying what I described is the proper way to balance a game, any game really, DaS3 or LoL or Hearthstone, doesn't matter. It's what I'd call "going wide", where everything is on the same level of powerful but in different categories than each other so they don't have any strictly better things, rather than "going tall" which is basically power creep (this month we release carthus curved sword, next month we released the platinum carthus curved sword which does everything the carthus does but with more AR and less stamina consumption or some shit and is literally jsut an upgrade).

>>160308435
>Exactly; if everything is OP, nothing is OP.

The important thing that I can't stress enough though is that they're OP at *SOMETHING DIFFERENT*. Like you have a longest curved sword, a highest AR curved sword, a really good WA curved sword, a curved sword that's faster than other curved swords, etc. There's no strictly better, it just depends on playstyle which one you'd prefer (and obviously if a weapon is good in one thing it's bad in other things, the more powerful being good in something is the worse the sacrifices have to be for that power, obviously).
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>>160308680
That's still not necessarily the case, because of the way the game mechanics may compliment a faster weapon compared to a more damaging weapon. It's the main problem with UGS's right now, and the fast curved sword will probably be way better at catching rolls or inflicting bleed with carthus rouge
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>>160308513
>And now when DaS4 comes out, dumb niggers like Inferno "I can only use Carthus Sword because i'm bad" Plus and Albino "I resort to Robbie Rotten and trump videos for easy views" Lama are going to backpedal impossibly fucking hard and DaS3 is suddenly going to be good again

There won't be another Dark Souls game but you're probably still right anyways. DemonBorneSouls whatever it is will be called as garbage, and 3 will be hailed as the series savior.
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>>160308679
>being good at the game somehow makes me lucifer
Okay lucifer

>>160308680
Obviously incomperables should be introduced, but that's a given. If everything were equally OP at doing the exact same thing the same way, they'd be litteraly the same thing. I'm obviously not suggesting we make the game have only one weapon to choose from. Besides, I directly stated:
>I'd rather have one top tier weapon exist for each class than have every single curved sword be equally powerful.
which is getting at the same idea in a broader sense
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DaS2 is shit.
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>>160308981
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>>160308981
but there were plenty of builds that were viiiiiable if your opponent wasn't using the meta!
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>>160308847

Like I said: the more powerful something is, the more they have to sacrifice in other areas for that power. That's what game balance is all about.

Too bad From doesn't give a fuck about us or game balance, they made their money already. Best we can hope for is with >>160308885 where we at least have every weapon class viable, even if there's only 1-2 "best" weapons to choose from with each weapon class.
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>>160308435
>So? There really don't need to be more than maybe two of each weapon [...]
Dude, read my post again.

Like I said:
There are whole weapon classes that are straight upgrades from another one. The balance is utterly fucked, the game is broken and the pvp is a mess beyond repair.

The ultimate proof is that they somehow made weapon classes that were already the worst (greataxes and other big retarded weapons) even worse by robbing the only thing they had (hyperarmor). They need to stack poise with armor but they can't because their weapon weights a ton, so they have to invest in vit, but also need end because their weapon consumes retarded amounts of stamina, but also vig because they rely on trades.

I actually feel bad for ultrafags while I easily kill them with a few pokes, they are just worse greatsword users that get outdamaged by any true combo, while having none.
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How's the Farron sword? I want to do anime breakdances and shit.
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>>160309379
less damage than a greatsword
less ha than a greatsword
same range than most greatswords

the only thing it has, the l1, can be reaction parried

don't bother
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>>160309379
Literally garbage
Use it on brawl though, the breakdance is really good at stealing kills.
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>>160309379
its pretty meme
if you wanna be anime use the 2kat, that weapon art has hyper armor and leads into like 800 damage
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>>160309156
>There are whole weapon classes that are straight upgrades from another one.
Not really. There are weapon classes that are better, but even when you compare UGS to GS, which are arguably the closest two classes, there are plenty of distinctions. UGS are unparriable, and can use R2 pokes way more safely due to reach and the aforementioned unparriability. I'm not denying that they're bad, but they're definitely unique and you shouldn't be using a UGS like a GS, as it has far more useful R2's and can charge them far more safely.

>pvp is a mess beyond repair
Save for ultras it's the best they've been, and honestly, ultras are essentially a joke anyway. By design they'll either be unapproachable due to poise or garbage due to slowness and punishability unless you change their identity completely.
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>>160309450
katanas are for fags
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>>160290337
What is /dsg/'s opinion of AlbinoLlama, given that he's from here, is the reception of him here good? Just discovered his YT channel, and him fucking up Peeve, Oro, and yukas' stream was pretty hilarious especially when they enter inspirational gamer mode where they do speeches why it's wrong to cheat
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>>160309718
fags win games
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>>160309431

Holy fuck is anything more than 2 man brawl bad, it's all just shit like that and pyros/mages or curved swords, all stuff designed to steal kills basically.

I actually really like 2 man brawl though, it's great for testing builds out imo since you get to fight someone who can die to your shit and then try to adjust to it, so you can learn how people try to counter you and then try to think of how to counter their counter in turn. Very useful I think (plus it lets me meme without losing my gold medal in dueling, as worthless as that may be)
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>>160309734

Attention whore.
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>>160309751
yeah but they're still fags
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>>160309734
ds2 shill, but simultaneously also the only ds2 player worth watching
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>>160309379
The l1combo shits hyper armor and is a guaranteed two hits if you land it. Don't let them parry the dagger.

Damage really needs a buff though. Lmao2scythe is a great anime weapon.
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>>160306640
a-anyone...?

plz respond invaderanons, trying to git gud at fighting ganks here.
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>>160296542
I've always assumed Archdragon Peak was an astral projection of some sort.
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>>160309717
> it's the best they've been
best it's been*
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>>160309760
It's fun when most people are using ultra weapons.
Recently I noticed that everyone starts hunting the mage as soon a they see one instead of fighting and letting the mage steal the kills.
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>>160309873
>fighting a kumo user with a farron
>we both land our r1s on each other and hyper through them
>he hits his r1 again as i follow up with an l1, swing goes right over my head before i hit him
that felt really good
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>>160299523
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>>160306640
I sometimes hold it normally, but I usually lay my finger over the B button and let it wrap overtop of my R1 button, then put my thumb on the aim stick
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>>160309874
>>160306640

Hold it or claw if I need to fight multiples or run away and look behind. I use a DS3 though which are held in a different way compared to an Xbox controller, which are usually gripped.
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>>160309954

That's even worse though, and most likely the mage will probably get off at least one HSM and do some damage and the other people will probably do some friendly fire so a pyro in the back can toss a big ass fireball and steal kills for himself. Not like there's just 1 pew pew guy or something.

I'd much rather do 2v2 or 3v3's in all honesty, only problem with those is when people d/c.
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>>160310039
This was a lot of effort put into an anon's character made to be racist and maybe not all that effective in invasions. Good work though.
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>>160309717
All they need to do to fix ultras is give them 4 swing+roll with 40 end and speed up the animation a bit.

I don't understand why people think ultras would be broken if they had more speed, it would change a thing, just make ultras less easily punishable. It doesn't matter how fast something as long as you can react roll out of it.

Speed and less stamina consumption would be the bare minimum for ultras to be competitive because as they are right now they can't pressure for shit, I just walk backwards and poke them to death and it works 100% of time.

If from actually wanted to make ultras something to be feared they need to look back at Demon's Souls, which in my opinion had one of the craziest and fun est metas.
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>>160308435
>I'd rather have one top tier weapon exist for each class than have every single curved sword be equally powerful.
>t. No balance
You just listed the main reason why everyone is bitching about the balance. If that's what you want, you're the cancer everyone is talking about. Being angry about this when you got what you want makes you all the more retarded. Just stop, holy shit.
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>>160306640

Don't forget that you can remap all actions in DaS3.. just put your run on R2 or something.
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>>160310041
>>160310086

I'm basically starting to have my thumb on the right thumbstick for the camera movement, index finger to hit the abxy buttons, and now my middle finger to hit R1/R2. Think I'm going to practice using this grip all the time so I can always have free control of the camera, I've just found it's too important to be able to manipulate the camera without being locked on since I started doing invasions regularly. In duels you don't have to worry about camera movement that much because you're just fighting one guys all the time so that's what I got used to before unfortunately.

Even in duels though, being able to free aim without being locked on can be incredibly useful for a number of reasons.
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>>160310174
You're not supposed to pressure people with an ultra. It's not a dagger. You're not supposed to play aggressively with ultras. You need to bait people into your attacks which you can easily do against most retards with a delayed R2.

Ultras already kill people in 3-4 hits max. If you make them faster and boost their recovery they will become godlike.

Also you need to take off the rose tinted glasses m8. DeS PvP was unbelievably broken compared to what we have today.
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>>160306640
i use this thing. best controller i've ever used honestly

i have B, R3, and Y bound to the bottom buttons and never really have to take my thumb off the stick
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unpatched dark souls 1 is the worst game ive ever played

>unique enemy drops have to be looted
if you pushed black knight off cliff, guess what no bkh for you bitch ass, same with lautrec
>enemies do not have aggro leash
>enemy aggro radius is unlimited
I sat at the bonfire in burg and was curious what would happen, sure enough 10 fuckers swarmed me. The part where you run across the little bridge with the two dudes throwing firebombs? they jumped down and joined me in the rape building and proceeded to fuck me

I went to Havel and had 20 hollow soldiers jump in mid fight

i had all broken sword hallows, the channeler, and two baldur knights chase me into lautrecs room

jesus christ
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>>160310174
>I don't understand why people think ultras would be broken if they had more speed
I don't think that, but at the same time I think you'd be making them less unique by doing that. That's all really.

>>160310179
>I'd rather have [at least] one top tier weapon exist for each class than have every single curved sword be equally powerful [as opposed to having anything from any other class challenge them].
why would you rather have 10 Ryu's that are all equal instead of 10 different character types that are each powerful and unique? The problem with the games weapon roster isn't "oh, one of these two near identical weapons is superior," it's "oh, these two weapons are near identical". We don't need a dozen curved swords when their movesets are mostly identical, the game would honestly benefit from focusing less on quantity and more on quality. Even from a PvE perspective having to see those little white item orbs everywhere is just an eyesore. I'd love to have half as many weapons in exchange for twice as many new weapon classes.
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>>160310338

I know, I actually just removed jumping entirely from the game since it'd only fuck me over when fighting by accidentally pushing the left thumbstick down when shit got too intense, causing me to jump randomly in fights for no reason.

All the shoulder buttons do important stuff already so I wouldn't change those. It's more about changing my grip so I'm using more fingers instead of having my thumb alternate between 2 important things that often need to be done at the same time (running/rolling while controlling the camera, and potentially attacking too). I think this is good enough though with my middle finger controlling the shoulder buttons now to free up my thumb to control the camera.
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>>160310486
>Ultras already kill people in 3-4 hits max
Every weapon already kills people in 3-4 hits max
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>>160310624
anything smaller than a GS is going to take more unless you're scoring a bunch of R2's or ripostes something
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>>160310567

Neat. I just use a xbox 360 controller on my PC and it's always worked quite well for me. To each their own.

Just interesting how after 400 some-odd hours I'm to that point where I actually need to rethink how I physically play the game if I want to get better, lol.
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>>160310624
No they don't. Not embered people with 40 vig. Stop lying.
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>>160310739
Yeah they do.
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>>160310486
But all other weapons are able to pressure somewhat efficiently.

>Ultras already kill people in 3-4 hits max. If you make them faster and boost their recovery they will become godlike.
But these 3-4 hits are so hard to hit, they aren't equivalent of the 6 needed for a greatsword at all, specially since greatswords can do true combos.

To give you a practical example, each hit of my spear does about 250 damage, but almost every time if I hit once I stun for a second hit, for 500 damage. If I do this 2 times, my opponent is almost dead and I just need to poke him once more, which is easy with my weapon of choice.

That's 5 hits, but I actually only landed 3 hits. Those 3 were with a weapon with great range, low weight, fast speed and low investment. Compare this to a greathammer, which has none of those 4 qualities and also has to hit people 3 times to kill them.
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>>160310578
>enemies chasing you instead of all the sudden forgetting that they want you dead is a good thing
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>>160308513
>DaS2 is now godlike
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>>160306640
Pointer fingers on top buttons and switch to trigger/R2 whenever I want heavy attacks. There's no setup where you need both same-sided buttons so there's never a need to use anything but thumbs and pointers press buttons. Xbox on pc since it's cheaper and less of a hassle.
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>>160310739
I mean technically a hornet riposte is three swings tops, and afterwards you can always kill them with a hidden fourth
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>>160310739
Most do because of combos.
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>>160310824
they're hollows, not enemy soldiers
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>>160310824
there should be a way to shake off the cops though

not the "oh, you walked too far away from my special spot, I must go home now" stuff we have, but still
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>>160310578

Unpatched DaS is so different it wouldn't be wrong to say that you haven't played DaS if you haven't played it pre-patch.
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>>160310739
The arena is unembered.

PvP now is all unembered.
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>>160310865

How do you do running attacks while controlling the camera at the same time though? You'd need to have your thumb on the camera thumbstick, one finger holding down B to run, and one finger to push R1 while holding down B. That's why I'm saying I need 3 fingers instead of 2 on my right hand to do all the shit I need.
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>>160310806
No they don't retard. At 40 vig people have about 1600 HP embered.

A straightsword or a katana isn't doing 550 damage per swing unless you've buffed it with DMB and are scoring counterhits.

>>160310818
They're not hard to hit.

You need to do more than just press R1 and expect your opponent to walk onto your sword.

They delayed R2 when someone rolls into you is a good example. Another would be to delay your second R1 or train your opponent to think you can only swing twice etc...

Ultras require you to use your brain.
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>>160310578
I just realized how much better das1 pve was.
Thanks for reminding me.
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>>160310739
not even unembered people, I've never had more than half my health docked from two carthus swings
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>>160310875
>>160310913
I'm talking about 3 R1s not hornet ripostes FFS.

An ultra will kill you in 3 R1s, 4 if you're embered, and some retards want to make them faster. Gee I wonder what could go wrong here...
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>>160311171
katana and straight sword hits for a free second hit everytime. So yeah, you can say they hit 500+ each time
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>>160311171
I dueled someone in the arena with who used an ultra with crow quills. If I estimated his stamina and just rolled around until he was done wiffing/trying to bait by wiffing, I could hit him a few times and back off and he couldn't do shit about it.

I bet against a thrall axe and a skilled player, a 1v1 is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE with an ugs.
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>>160311171
I'm not saying there's now way to win with ultras.

But the amount of efforts needed to do so is not proportional. It's way easier to hit people for 500 damage with my LKS than it was with my FUGS.
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>>160311137
Nobody plays arena anymore.
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>>160311171
>They delayed R2 when someone rolls into you is a good example. Another would be to delay your second R1 or train your opponent to think you can only swing twice etc.

As the person who'd brought up how UGS could do more with their R2's than GS, the last part of what you're saying only works on people once really, if at all. For all you know, jund could be reading your stats before you even load into the arena, not to mention that people could just start throwing shit at you instead of playing risky business between your swings.
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>>160311376
Everyone plays arena now.
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I want to make a build that can use all spells in the game at sl 120-130.

I started as a pyro and I was wondering what catalysts I should pick up to use as few as possible but with the best dmg(?)
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>>160311243
I can take four R1's from an ultra usually. I think the real solution would be to make the arena embered so that they aren't as screwed over by hitrounding.
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>>160311142
>You'd need to have your thumb on the camera thumbstick
No. I'm just used to lock-on and whenever I don't use lock-on I use my thumb to make sure the camera will be at the angle my character will be facing. I think being used to the magnetic draw of the lock-on camera and having spatial awareness of what's 180 behind your character helps. Like, if there's a cliff behind me would put chills on my ass spine and treat it like a untouchable wall.
> I need 3 fingers instead of 2 on my right hand to do all the shit I need.
I have my thumb on the roll button most of the time. Whenever I need to fix the camera, I make sure roll enough then quickly move the joystick.
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>>160311243
We actually made them faster in DaS2 with CE and guess what.

It doesn't change a thing. They still consume shitloads of stamina and weight a ton.
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>>160311313
>I bet against a thrall axe and a skilled player, a 1v1 is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE with an ugs.

That's why you carry a backup weapon. I used to carry an offhand rapier with my UGS. It worked quite well and also gave me the ability to parry if required.

All in all, a 1v1 against a skilled player is going to be tough.

>>160311257
UGS R1s combo to so in that case they 2 shot you.

>>160311330
It's not really that much effort. It just requires your opponent to make mistakes.

I agree that occasionally you will meet a player who just dodge all your shit and won't fall for any of your b8. In those cases you just switch to a faster weapon and hope for the best. You can't expect to win 100% of the time with any weapon.
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>>160311595
Except no one with half a brain would give a free hit for UGS.
It's literally HARD to let them hit you, you can walk out of the range on reaction. If you use the roll button there is literally nothing they can do ever.
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>>160311380
Once is all you need. I've literally one shot phantoms with a counter hit charged R2. It will take more than half their HP guaranteed.

>>160311420
No they don't. Shut up.

>>160311474
Are you sure? I've never seen anyone take 4 R1s from my Lothric Knight GS buffed with gold pine resin.

The problem with making the arena embered is that it would be a huge nerf to caster viability.
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>>160298446
Wouldn't this + a 60fth/int buff just demolish everything? How long is From going to allow this to continue?
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>>160311595
>That's why you carry a backup weapon.

That's not a valid argument.
Why spear users don't need to carry a backup weapon?
Why estoc users don't need to carry a backup weapon?
Why SS users don't need to carry a backup weapon?
Why katana users don't need to carry a backup weapon?
Why GS users don't need to carry a backup weapon?

The fact that you NEED a backup weapon for ultra weapons is just another way of showing how handicapped they are.
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>>160311796
Everyone is in the arena bitch nigga
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>>160306841
To expand upon this, poise was increased on ultras, but hyper armor frames were nerfed, heavily. They now start so late into the animation that your poise doesn't even matter anymore, because anyone with basic competence will stagger you out of every attack with ease.

If you're using an ultra and the other person isn't AFK, you're going to lose with no chance of victory.
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>>160311796
>The problem with making the arena embered is that it would be a huge nerf to caster viability.
That's a good thing.
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>>160311670
And yet I hit people with them all the time. Everyone makes mistakes. Ultras capitalise on your opponents mistakes harder than any other weapon.

Maybe ultras just aren't suited to you. If you want a slightly faster weapon just use a greatsword. I hear they're pretty viable.
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>>160312003
Stream now.
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guys I am reinstalling DS3 for some fucking dumb reason fuck convince me not to please its so shit.
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>>160311848
They do you moron. Any good player carries a backup weapon.

>>160311860
No they aren't you faggot. Only scrubs play arena now. Got my gold the first week and never touching that shit again.

I can literally 20-0 in arena it's so full of scrubs. Duels are much more of a challenge.

>>160311953
t. retard who got a CSS/CBV shoved up his sphincter.
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Anyone playing regular DaS2 or will I be alone while everyone plays the SoTFS edition?
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Would anybody mind helping me with Nameless King?

I'm on PS4, pass is dsg. Standing right in front of the great bell lever.

Thanks bros.
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>>160312042
I'm not set up for streaming buddy boy, nor do I use ultras anymore. Trying other builds now.
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>>160312165
Arena is where the duels are.
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>>160312234
Alright, give me a few to set up
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>>160312290
Thanks so much!
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>>160312165
>They do you moron. Any good player carries a backup weapon.

Carrying a backup weapon out of option is different from having to carry one.

I don't need a backup weapon for my spear. I could have, but I don't need one. There's nothing I can't handle with my spear.
I bet katana and ss users can say the same.

Ultra users NEED a backup weapon to compensate for how fucking weak they are. I remember the one time back when I still was an ultrafag, I put a estoc in my left hand while using the FUGS. The estoc was my "backup" but it was so much better than the FUGS that in the end the big sword was just a decoration my character that I used from time to time to bait people into my pokes.
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>>160311443
Crystal chime for sorceries and miracles, it is actually a really good catalyst. pyroglove for pyros. For dark sorceries izalyth staff and for dark miracles sunless talisman. Avoid white hair talisman it is shit.
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>>160311443
If you're doing an allcaster, use the crystal chime (casts miracles and sorcery) and parting flame (good for black flame). You can cast the chime weaponart for free 6hp/s regen, and it stacks with actual replenishment miracles (base replenishment is 5hp/s, goes up to 10). You need to keep it on hand for the regen to continue, but it's not like you'll ever need to twohand your pyro flame. Bear in mind that you won't be able to poisecast if you're using that chime though; you're probably better off just having a regen miracle so that you don't need to use one of the miracle boosting rings (since regen miracles don't scale).

>>160311848
I semi-agree with what you're saying to him, but if a weapon has enough good matchups, one bad one isn't too bad. For example, TPGS is as good if not better than any other greatsword unless you're fighting another GS user who's actually good with their weapon, since your only poke is the beam, which is good if they play campy but is actually a parriable and generally just punishable attack if spammed, so I often hardswap to the flame spear since they have near identical scaling and identical weight. If you've got a hammer that's really good at hammering nails and a wrench that's really good at twisting nuts, and you can use either one as needed, swiss-army tools that can't do either one as well get invalidated. I think the problem with UGS is that anything you might want to hardswap to is typically something that would have been better to use either way. Not to mention that you're usually using less of your equipload when you hardswap off of them since they're heavy, plus your poise becomes a waste, etc.
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>>160312281
Look at this scrub desperately trying to defend the arena.

Just fuck off kid. Nobody gives a shit about the arena. Just like nobody did in DS1 or DS2.

Duels are and always will be the standard. You're obviously a scrub so you can't hack it at Sully P's porch at SL 120. kys nigger.
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>>160312248
Yeah, I figured you would backpedal like a fag. Thanks for confirming.
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>>160312332
Alright, signs down. Hopefully I'm not complete trash
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>>160312429
whoops, forgot my sorrylegolas.webem
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>>160312339
>I don't need a backup weapon for my spear. I could have, but I don't need one. There's nothing I can't handle with my spear.
>I bet katana and ss users can say the same.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you clearly lack PvP experience.

There are weapons and playstyles that counter katanas and spears pretty effectively. You'll learn that as you progress.
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>>160312204
I'm playing through scholar and barely noticing any activity aside from one player invasion in the gutter.
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What weapons do you hope to see in the next DLC?
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>>160312430
>This bitch trembles in fear of the arena
Look at him and laugh
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>>160312468
>backpedal

Did I claim I would stream or something?

Get off my dick faggot.
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>>160312562
Don't take this the wrong way, but you clearly need to get your head out of your ass and be more humble.
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>>160312659
You claimed to be good and can't prove it.
Prove it by streaming or keep backpedaling.
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>>160312653
Bitch I'm double gold on 2 characters. Been there done that.

The arena is shit just like it was in previous games. No surprise at all.
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How to fix pvp

>make arena embered

>boost magic damage by 34%
>make the magic damage boost rings reduce FP consumption
>add more recovery frames for all instant cast spells such as combustion, so they can be punished and can't be spammed
>boost miracles power, but make softcap 40
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>>160312713
Sorry if I triggered you. Not my problem if you're an easily offended pussy.

>>160312761
Where did I claim to be good? I claimed to be better than you maybe but then that's not saying much is it?
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>>160312771
Gold is literally nothing. You get it in half hour. It's nothing compared to holding the rank in the DS2 arena
Still, arena is where the duels are.
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>>160312641
quarterstaves
a decent looking tetsubo
some more dual weapons that aren't just the same weapon copy pasted into the left hand slot
a longbow type bow that is actually useful
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>>160310578
How are you playing the unpatched version of the game?
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>>160312856
Keep backpedaling pussy
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>duel with my sorcerer
>meleefags just hide behind the pillars the entire duel and come out once in a while with a mocking clap until it's a draw

Why are meleefags so afraid to duel sorcerers? Literally all they have to do to win is stay in their face so that you can't cast shit.
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>>160312641
anything with an interesting, already existing weapon art instead of adding new gimmicks to the pile

>existing weapon art
>interesting
>pick one lol

now before you say that: think of a heavy weapon (UGS, GS etc.) with quickstep, or a claw with blind spot

dual straight swords with quickstep would also be nice for remaking my Vindictus character on Dark Souls
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>>160312867
LMAO at this cuck who thinks arena is hard or a display of skill.

Try invading and winning 1v4 then I'll respect your skills.

Beating unembered scrubs in a sandbox is childsplay.
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>>160312904
>a decent looking tetsubo
It would just be another useless greathammer anyway
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>>160313036
And the moveset would be the generic greathammer moveset, with perseverance WA.
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>>160312964
Because you just need one help from your latency to eat 70% of their HP?
I love cuckolding mages from their only gameplan.

>>160312974
>ugs with quickstep
Ok my dick is very hard right now
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Is the grass crest shield worth the weight added in this game? DS1 it was worth it but ds2 it wasn't.
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>>160312852
>make arena embered
this

>boost magic damage by 34%
I'd rather just remove the young dragon etc rings and apply their 12% bonus as a general buff so that sorcerers gained another ring slot

>make the magic damage boost rings reduce FP consumption
FP should just be reworked and the att stat should reward you with more FP/flasks should give more. Attunement slots should be removed, and instead attuning spells should lower your max FP, while at the same time we greatly buff the amount of FP gained from leveling att. That way you can level it fluidly instead of having to hit a hard benchmark.

>add more recovery frames for all instant cast spells such as combustion
at most BF needs a damage nerf, it's honestly fine otherwise

>boost miracles power, but make softcap 40
why this in particular?
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>>160313036
>>160313075
I don't give a shit you fags, I just wanna be an oni
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>>160311595
>That's why you carry a backup weapon

this is when pvp becomes a shitty rock paper scissors game between weapon classes
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>>160313001
And beating pve baby scrubs is any display of skill? Fucking lol fag
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>>160313145
its not
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>>160312974
>greatsword with quickstep
pic related

>>160313146
>I'd rather just remove the young dragon etc rings and apply their 12% bonus as a general buff so that sorcerers gained another ring slot
That's my intention. 34% is exactly how much the two rings give. Then because from wouldn't remove something that is already in the game, my suggestion was make them reduce FP consumption, but it could be something else, really, like giving slots for just one school of magic.

>at most BF needs a damage nerf, it's honestly fine otherwise
The way it is now, BF can be used to immediately counter being hit. It's too fast and can be spammed too easily and, even if you miss, there's almost no recovery.
It's just strong all over.

>why this in particular?
So they have the advantage of being less investment heavy, as doing just as much damage as other schools would kinda kill the purpose of having different schools in the first place.
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>>160312964
i'll get in your face and you'll just keep running away to get me out. fighting any kind of backpedaller is just irritating in a game where its so easy to run away
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>>160312859

Fresh from the oven.

>>160313383
>>160313383
>>160313383
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>>160313001
LMAO at this cuck
>unsheaths katana
try invading and winning 1v4
>teleports behind u
maybe then ill respect ur skillz
>slashes u 3 times
beating unembered scrubs in a sandbox is...
>licks blood off of blade
...childsplay
>tips fedora then disappears

God you sound fucking unbearable
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What if the second DLC added an ember that allowed you to change the WAs?
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>>160313391
>pic related
WAs are awful, just embrace the anime at this point
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>>160313224
Well yeah that's what PvP has always been. Certain weapons and playstyles are better against others.

>>160313229
At least when I invade I'm fighting 3 of them at once which gives them a bit more of a chance. In the arena I'm fighting one PvE scrub who's unembered.

Anyway what's you steam ID tough guy? Let's duel if you think you're hot shit.
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>>160312581
Just imagine my regular edition then
170 players online, peaking 400 daily
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>>160313141
>>160313141
>Because you just need one help from your latency to eat 70% of their HP?

you have to be literally retarded to get hit by a CSS in 1v1 context
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To the anon helping me with NK, I got him! I think your character name was Chermaine. i managed to beat him after you died.

Thank you so much for your help!
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>>160313840
No worries. Sorry about me being trash for a good part of that.

Charmaine
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>>160313669
Yeah that's what they say to themselves after letting the lag do the job
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>>160313965
It's all good, I was trash too. Between the two of us, we made one good player. That's all we needed.

Thanks again.
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>>160312852

How to fix pvp

>get rid of dodging
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