/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

>>160255594
Fuck alex kidd

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shameless self bumb

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does /sthg/ do any Sonic sprite editing/pixel art?

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AW YEAH, THIS IS HAPPENIN'

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>30 years of Sonic
>still no penguin character

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Reposting it here
>>160255594

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>>160258049
windows 10 is better :^)

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>>160258149
>that build
holy fuck

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>>160258271
Bark is still stronger

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>>160258149
sweater sally was fine

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>>160258579
I quite like this artist.

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>>160258967
artist or character design?

>>160258579
Sally/Erma lewds when?

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>>160259123
Both

Does the previous artist have a tumblr or anything?

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>>160258579
Sweater Sally you say?

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>>160259242
I think there is one

>>160259312
I have no idea

>>160259334
I love Tails, Eggman and Rotor in this

>>160259859
bottomless sweater wearers are one of my fetishes

>>160260406
He is the best Sonic character!

>>160258579
Didn't they get Pendered?

>>160261164
yeah...

Previews for SU are out.

>>160263409
post it

>>160263597
Can't, at work. Hopefully someone else will.

>2 hours old thread
>25 posts
amerifats wake up

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>>160264556
I'm awake, I just got nothing I want to post about.

Previews are here if anyone wants to post them
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sonic-universe-comic-features-detectives-pirates-a/1100-6445440/

>>160265072
>detectives and pirates?! Sonic games never had those!

>>160265174
>Expecting game journalists to play Sonic games

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>>160265174
uh...

>>160265468
>Tells Rouge to give up her booty
Lewd
I kind of wish Chronicles Sonic was the norm. From what I've seen of him he's probably the most entertaining Sonic

>>160265468
And Sonic Rush Adventure, not to mention the Chaotix have been detectives in like 95% of their game appearences.

>>160265072
I'd post the previews if I had time, but looking at them now, this is gonna be a fun time

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>>160265979
>Trigger finger

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>>160267417
HIROSHIMOOOOT

>>160267417
confound those /ovg/ and their bugchasing mischievery!

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End of preview

>>160267667
Poor Pink furry thing.

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>>160267807
>he cucked out

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>>160268030
Just now putting together how awesome Espio as an unlockable in Shinobi would be

>>160267417
>>160267529
>>160267667
>>160267807
>>160267930
these faces are great
I am starting to really like the Chaotix

>>160268824
I'm liking that Vector is actually competent, if not a tad rash.
Before now I always saw Vec as the "Leader" while Espio as the real brains behind it all.
I have no idea where I got that from either.

>>160269451
>>Before now I always saw Vec as the "Leader" while Espio as the real brains behind it all.
>I have no idea where I got that from either.

well on one hand, you have the impression that a lot of wisdom comes from being a ninja, but on the other hand, Espio was pretty dumb not figuring out their clients real identity in Heroes
>"A relative, perhaps?"

>>160269805
Like to think Espio is really just a massive fucking weeaboo.

>>160269451
>>160269805
Espio tends to be more competent when it comes to small-scale stuff but sucks at looking at the big picture, while Vector is the opposite.

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>>160269451
The thing is, Espio's the "serious one". He's the straightman. But he's not any smarter than the others. In fact, he's so straightforward he's pretty narrow minded.
Vector's much more intuitive and can read situations easier. All things considered he's the real detective and Espio's good at espionage. Oh shit, that's his name.

Had a dream last night about mania

Sky sanctuary comes back and it's a mix labyrinth zone and aquatic ruins. Youll get shot into water in a background plain and follow a trail of bubbles to be shot back into the main plain

The other one is a ice cap and lava reef where the lower you go there's lava under the ice and stuff. The gimmick is basically just things fall or whatever and lava shoots out to block your path.

Fucking mark this post because if any of this comes true im some kind of prophet

>>160270441
kek

>>160272215
What would Sonic sing about?

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>>160272458
Here ya go,

>>160272794
going fast

>>160272794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weedx0MfQfo

>>160272794
He'd sing so fast you would not be able to tell. Like an auctioneer had a kid with speed metal singer and that kid was put on steroids.

>>160272458
>The other one is a ice cap and lava reef where the lower you go there's lava under the ice and stuff.
>Sonic Mania: Fire & Ice

>>160270107
I want Weeaboo Espio to be a thing now. And for him to meet the Chun nan crew and accidentally be horribly offensive

>>160274063
Oh hey, I recognize you

>>160274240
I'm not the artist. I just liked the pic and saved it

>>160274240
who is it?

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>>160274712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNgxyL5zEAk

>>160267930
Poor Echo.

>>160267930
I want to see Espio meet Abyss now

>>160272794
Chilidogs

Havent been here in several months (maybe even close to a year). What did I miss? Are the comics still a thing?

>>160278017
Try scrolling up even slightly? Christ.

>>160278017
Nah, comics are dead.
Sonic went mobile exclusive.
We're just here lamenting.

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>>160258082

Yummylicious.

>>160278017
Well you missed Unleashed ending, the Mania and 2017 hype, shitposting, Boom season 2 starting, ABT swinging by, a visit from Senpai, among other things

>>160278746
I love everything in that set.

>>160278017
So you missed one of the most hype years of Sonic since Generations? Man, sucks to be you.

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It's time to stop.

>>160280681
Stop what?

>>160280681
>Reading comments

I almost commented on some fuckwads dumblr post on 06 that was trending, saying how SEGA was calling the kettle black by making fun of 06 but not Boom. But then I remembered that no matter what I say, these retards think they have a point.

Just ignore there comments, no matter how stupid they are.

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>>160280681

>youtube comments

>>160281080
The Sonic dumblr community is a hard one to deal with.

>>160281080
>>160280681
Is it just me or has there been this weird growth of people defending 06 lately?

>>160281364
Sonic fans will defend anything Arin bash now no matter what is the quality of the game.

>>160280681
I swear everyone dicksucks every 3D fan game regardless of quality just to make "Sonic is bad lol" jokes

>>160281589
Explains why people defend most of the games in this franchise. They're blind fanboys who can't stand the mean man saying bad things about their favorite game

>>160280681
>Youtube comments
Though to be fair, Utopia is real good.

>>160281364
>>160281589
>>160281726
No. Autistic Sonic """fans""" defend 06 because they forget about objectivity and believe "shit on it because it's Sonic" is unfair even though it's entirely justified. It has little to do with that mouthbreather's shitspewing.

>>160280681
But they're all correct though. Sega should just let the fans do the games and stuff from now on. Cancel 2017 and let stuff like Mania become the norm because Sonic team can't make good games

>>160281978
You can't blame reviewers and journalists for shitting on Sonic when it's been so bad for so long. Yet some people get butt hurt when they rightfully insult Sonic's many bad choices and games

>>160281364
I blame nostalgia. However I mainly blame the fact that people feel that 06 was the last time Sega tried to do anything 'ambitious'. Which is *partially* true, they just want to see a return to Sonic being taken 'seriously' and having multiple characters. Despite the fact that it was really only with Sonic Adventure that Sonic started to attempt being 'serious' rather than just a standard platforming game with both light and dark elements. Also despite the fact that no game post 1998 really clicked with everyone like the original games did, what 06 did was really just bring all the problems people had with 3D Sonic games to a head. Dodgy camera and control, cringeworthy characters and melodramatic plots, and a general sense of identity crisis.

I agree, that turning Sonic into a Saturday morning cartoon character is something of a stab in the back to people who grew up with 'muh serious Sonic'. However the only real flaw it has are bad jokes from Pontac and Graff more than anything.

>>160281080
You saw that too? I nearly bit the hook myself.

>>160282172
Honestly Pontaff are fine. People are just mad it's not super serious. Their writing fits Sonic to a T and I hope they return for 2017

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>>160282074
...no. I'd like to play the game first before making any judgements about the franchise's future, thank you very much.

>>160282172
I agree with you 100%. Out of all the cool things Sonic provided these last few years, the Johnny Test writing 'team' was the lamest.

>>160282074

yeah dude let's give everyone who has made a slightly decent tech demo in their freetime a shitload of cash and a deadline there's no way this could possibly backfire

Why hasn't Blaze come through a portal in Boom yet

>>160282446
What's wrong with having Sonic be a bit more comedic? Sonic's a naturally snarky character, and that lends itself to comedy, and as the Boom show and Twitter have proven, it's a good direction for him

>>160282446
Fluffy sanic :3c

>>160282297
I laugh at a couple of the lines, but I can see why people are upset. I honestly think they could stand to get better writers like those who work on Boom.


Also, wasn't the OP for that post the same guy who ships Chris Thorndyke and Dave the Intern?

>>160282446
>i'd like to play it first before passing judgement
How many chances are you going to give them? How many tines are you going to pay them money and say, "well that sucked and they got my money again, but NEXT TIME they'll get it right"

Companies are motivated by money and you are encouraging their production of shit. There's maybe half a good game released every 6, those odds aren't worth the price.

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>>160282297
It's too early for shitposting, anons.

>>160282812
This. At least with fans they'd be more motivated by passion and love
>>160282498
It'll likely end up more playable than Sonic team's next flop
>>160282446
How many times will you let the play you for a fool. Use your money wisely and buy something like Mania which is made from love rather than 2017 which will be another bad game

>>160283004
Go away, anon. Let's not shit this thread up.

>>160282954
How is preferring the games to be more comedy focused shitposting?

>>160283107
Claiming that the only reason people don't like Pontaff is because it isn't super serious.That's how.

>>160282593
>What's wrong with having Sonic be a bit more comedic?
After building up you just can't change gears all of a sudden. Now only will it cause tonal whiplash you'll be betraying your fans you grab over the years.

>>160283196
But it's not wrong. Most people I see complaining about Pontaff are people who want stuff like the super serious Adventure games to be the norm and I question why. Why go back to being serious when the funny route had been successful

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>>160282593
I didn't have a problem with the TONE of Colors and Generations necessarily - it was a nice step back from all of the grim supernatural tomfoolery in Unleashed - it was the DIALOGUE I had a problem with. If people want Sonic to regain its footing and shed off some of his stigma, having the most unexperienced, unfunny gaylords in charge of the games' primary motivation is a step in the wrong direction.

>>160282812
>>160283004
You "two" you're being extremely obvious are dealing in false absolutes. Bitching about a game that isn't even out yet because you THINK you know how it's going to turn out isn't forming an unbiased opinion, it's perpetuating an inferiority complex.

>>160283310
I see it as realizing that the serious direction they were taking it in was not the best choice so they decided to correct their course so to speak. I mean, how many non fans would be able to take Sonic seriously? Something like Colors and Generations just has a wider appeal
>>160283386
Actually I think the goofy nature of Pontaff helps his rep more than anything. It, along with the Twitter creates this image of cynical detachment and mocking itself, which is appealing to a lot of people

>>160283318
Except that's not true at all, as tons of people who do prefer a light-hearted tone, still doesn't like Pontaff's writing, because the writing is shit.

>>160283310
Has the fanbase been growing? Or has it been draining away game after shitty game until sonic team realized they were left with a dead franchise that should only appeal to children under 12 and they were letting a vocal minority of a couple hundred autistic furrys steer them away from an actual demographic?

>>160283386
>two people recognizing the low quality of the sonic series must be samefags
Is this your first day on the internet? Sonic 06 literally marked the moment that most gamers recognized how bad sonic team was and they haven't recovered their dignity since

>>160283531
How is the writing shit? The characters are pretty in character, the plot's simple but it does what it needs to do and fits Sonic, there's just the right amount of characters, and the tone is fine. The only bad plot Pontaff wrote was Lost World and that's because it tried too hard to be serious and dramatic
>>160283597
Why do you think the comedic direction has worked so well? It's bringing people back to Sonic, including those that would probably have never played it if it had stayed the course

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>>160283597
Someone's fucking projecting.

>>160283746
>le Sonic was never good meme
Why are you in here again?

>>160283746
And this is why the fans should take over. Sonic team can't mAke good games. The fans can. Give it to them
>>160283386
It's Sonic team, it'll be shit. Give it to the fans and they'll make a good game

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I knew this was coming

>>160283747
>How is the writing shit?

The plots & jokes are garbage. Simple as that.

>the plot's simple but it does what it needs to do and fits Sonic,

Kek. The plot's nearly nonexistent in Generations, weak in Colors, & shit in Lost World. And it's not because they tried too hard to be serious.

Again, please save this shitposting for another thread, anon.

>>160284054
>The plot is garbage
How?
The plots are there there, it's fairly obvious to see. They're just simple ones, and that's okay for Sonic. Something like Generations especially doesn't need a huge plot, just an excuse to go on a nostalgia trip

How is liking Colors and Gens shitposting? Do you call opinions that aren't your own shitposting?

>>160283814
>"sonic 06 was bad" implies "sonic was never good"
wat

>>160282172
>However I mainly blame the fact that people feel that 06 was the last time Sega tried to do anything 'ambitious'.
What about the storybook games? I've never played them, but I know damn well that they, especially Black Knight, have to be ambitious in some way.

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>>160284219
>How is liking Colors and Gens shitposting?

Colors & Gens had good gameplay. The stories had nothing to them,other than unfunny jokes.

>Do you call opinions that aren't your own shitposting?

No, it's just that you post this shit every other thread.

>>160284346
To a degree, yes, in a similar way Unleashed was ambitious. However a lot of 06 defenders are Black Knight defenders, even though the plot for that game was overly dramatic dross which would only appeal to some overly emotional Lifetime Movie viewer.

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>>160284334
>most gamers recognized how bad sonic team WAS
Past participle.
>and they haven't recovered their dignity SINCE
In reference to the present.

Not everyone has the same opinion as you. There have been plenty of well received Sonic games since 06 came out, but that doesn't seem to fit your shitposting rhetoric so you conveniently ignore them every time you bring the subject up unnecessarily. It's time to fucking stop.

>>160284473
I think you have me mistaken for someone else. I just like Colors and Generations' plots and don't get the hate. And you keep saying the stories had nothing to them but don't ever elaborate on that point

>>160284219
Nothing's wrong with liking Colors and Generations writings unless you're acting like the people who dislike them are wrong or dumb

>>160284473
The core of the stories of Colors and Gens were fine, it was the implementation of said stories and the writing of them that was the issue.

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>>160283495

>Actually I think the goofy nature of Pontaff helps his rep more than anything. It, along with the Twitter creates this image of cynical detachment and mocking itself, which is appealing to a lot of people

bullshit

there's been 3 Pontaff games in the past 6 years and people still act as if the last Sonic game was Ow the Edge or 06

the fact of the matter is that people just like to shit on Sonic and Sega, which is why mememan's self-deprecating tweets took off

and unlike Pontaff, mememan has actually played Sonic games so he knows what resonates well with Sonic fans and gamers in general

>>160284823
You do have a point. Pontaff hasn't done much for the games' rep. Perhaps they'd be better received if the games adopted the same tone as the Twitter?

>>160284532
>even though the plot for that game was overly dramatic dross which would only appeal to some overly emotional Lifetime Movie viewer.
06 or Black Knight?

>>160284665
yes, i used past participles sonic 06 was released in the past
because 2006 was 10 fucking years ago
you autist

>>160284532
Black Knight's plot was just fucming trash, especially it's version of Sonic. Would rather have something like Chronicles. At least that Sonic was entertaining and still had his trademark attitude in tact

>>160284671
OK, I'll elaborate. Colors had a shit ton of jokes that all fell flat. Eggman using the Wisps as fuel is a fine idea, but the execution was completely lackluster, imo.

Gens plot barely exists, as it was just "Sonic & Tails save their friends, who then do nothing. while Sonic & younger Sonic beats up the Time Eater," & for a game like Generations, where Eggman & classic Eggman were tearing through time, that's a complete waste of a pretty cool idea.

>>160285056
Both.

I honestly don't get why people like the plots to those games, the whole thing feels like it was written by a teenager.

>>160282593
>>160283495
>>160284890
The only reason the Twitter is so popular is because non-Sonicfags didn't think SEGA had any self awareness to begin with and were pleasantly surprised. I don't think that means they should put memes into every cutscene because it'll "surprise" players.

>>160285130
Keep ignoring the important stuff, buddy.

>>160282593
Don't put memes in games, EVER.

>>160285272
>the whole thing feels like it was written by a teenager.
>Fanbase is nothing by teenagers and manchildren
Well doy

>>160285281
>>160285368
I mean more the whole self deprecating attitude. Not the memes. Memes in games never go well

>>160285423
How would a self deprecating attitude help the series?

>>160285419
When you put it like that...

>>160285423
I think that would have worked for Generations or a similar landmark title. However doing it for every game would get tiring.

>>160285539
Wouldn't do much for gameplay, but it'd be kind of funny to have a plot where everyone else is trying to take things seriously and Sonic is 100% done with everyone's shit and commenting on how ridiculous it all is

>>160285419
Ah, don't be so hard on yourself anon.

>>160285423
Being self-deprecating while also being over-the-top cheesy is horrible, horrible writing no matter what way you spin it.

>>160285772
Remove the cheese then.

>>160285884
That only solves half of the problem and pretty much undoes the mountains of shitposting you were doing for the last hour

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Sit on my face Blaze!

>>160285976
You keep calling it shitposting, but all I'm trying to do is have a legitimate discussion

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>>160286157
Clearly you're going at it the wrong way, then.

>>160281364
I first played 06 when I was 9, and now I'm 19
This means there are people who played 06 when they were 4 that are now 14
Should explain everything

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Hey, how about I take some new drawing requests to lighten the mood a bit?

>>160286542
Echo swearing at Vector, but instead of fuck it's just dolphin noises

>>160285212
I thought the twist that the Eggmen were the one controlling the Time Eater was refreshing. Also was the TE some sort of a robot that the Eggmen had created or the Eggmen was able to create a device to take control of the beast?

>>160286542
In honor of 06's 10th birthday, draw Shadow kicking Silver in the head.

>>160286542
Razor's dark swimming chao stealthily swimming under the pool surface to chomp Sonic (who's wearing a swimming vest).

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>>160267529

So, taking bets.

Jellyfish girl is just a reference to Bonne Jennet

Y/N?

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>>160286542
WereSally infecting another mobian with lycanthropy.

>>160287660
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
Fatal Furt reference when? Buster the Wolf when?

Are you fast, /sthg/?

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>>160288824
no

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>>160288824
When we want to be.

What is the best version of Sonic as a character and why is it Chronicles?

>>160288824
Faster than Sonic ever will be.

>>160288908
I love this picture because it looks like a good Sonic movie.

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>>160288945
planet freedom sonic the best

>>160289178
A Sonic movie we will never get.

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>>160289249
with that attitude you can let anything slip by.

>>160286751
After Colors, Eggman (plus Orbot and Cubot) were stranded in space, until he found a mysterious entity called the Time Eater. After building the necessary machinations to control the entity (thus making it not betray Eggman, for once), he found that it held time-manipulation properties, and decided to use these to undo his past defeats. After scattering all of Sonic's friends (plus Classic Tails) across various points in time and sending Classic and Modern Sonic to the White Space, Eggman then captured his Classic self to help control Time Eater. I don't know why Unleashed Eggman was kidnapped, but that was probably to throw suspicion off themselves. After Time Eater was destroyed by Classic and Modern Super Sonic, Classic and Modern Eggman were stranded in the White Space until Sonic Lost World.

>>160282206
I was so tempted. But I knew it would end up in a shitfling where one side can't take a point, that and I couldn't be bothered poking holes in that wall of text he put out over several posts.

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>>160289235
sara is a cutie

>>160267529
>I have otterly no idea...
>OTTERLY
Dang it!

Also, I guess this throws out my "Razor was Abyss' crewmate" theory, huh?

>>160289235
He's good too, but Chronicles is better

>>160286542
TF2 Engie Rotor

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>>160289701

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>>160284890
Pontaff never even played the games. The bulk of the backstory for any of their writing came from reading wiki pages on characters, this self unawareness coincides with the SEGA side of things, where the people at the top are completely ignorant as to what Sonic is. I.E. Mememan getting the crowds opinions on Chao and certain characters like Tails/Shadow. Shadowfags btfo. right in front of the execs.

The Pontaffers need to go and I think Mememan has successfully clued the execs onto this, which is why we're seeing newer writers.

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>>160289943
what is with the missing red of her hair, come on people

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but you just cannot deny Elise's legs

>>160286542
A sleepy Gold in PJs

>>160289778

Not necessarily. My bet is the "philosophical difference" he got thrown out for was the crew joining with Abyss' fleet

>>160290367
Delicious girl.

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>>160286542
I'd adore if you did another Pirate Sally pic

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>>160290384
the line is drawn at cute Gold, you don't want to tear something

>>160290142
>which is why we're seeing newer writers.
We won't know until 2017 shows up unless I missed an announcement

>>160290367
I like the idea that human girls have a thing for Sonic and vice versa

>>160288824
I was when I caught a domesticated baby wolf from going into the street

then I got fat

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>>160290619
Oh I'd tear something if you know what I mean

>>160289431
Dude, your summary makes it sound like the story is quite decent (or there's even a story at all) in generations. I thought Unleashed Eggman is the Modern Eggman who was only pretending to be captured just to fool Sonic for some reasons.

>>160290367
But she got chicken legs, anon

>>160290739
It's the same for me only with men!

>>160291205
The thing with Pontaff games is that there is story, or at least backstory, but you have to look everywhere hard and low to find it.

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>>160289178
>>160288908
>cg Apotos by Marza

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Candle.

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>>160291393
She's a Chicken Mobian. Why else would sonic find her attractive?

>>160292174
Omochao

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3. MORE. DAYS

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>>160292174
Blaze, rather clearly.

>>160292482
Are you really looking forward to it that much, anon?

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>>160286041

For farts?

>>160292174
Holiday Blaze

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>>160292550
Amy too cute!

>>160290619
What about her lying in bed with her PJs with another girl
Holding hands

>>160292760
Actually I'm half and half.

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>>160294316
Happy Smelly Cat!

>>160284532
I never got the love for the Storybook game plots. They were conceptually silly yet tried to make the player take them seriously and devolved into melodrama in the end. No, I can't take beating up Evil Robin Williams seriously. Nor can I take the ridiculous looking Darkspine Sonic seriously. Like, that shit's almost as bad as Dark Sonic. And Black Knight, while slightly better, was still pretty dumb. Sonic with a sword, fine. I can deal. Talking sword and it turns out Sonic is King Arthur? That's retarded

>>160295205
But muh feelings.

>>160295290
No, it was dumb. Oh god, I forgot about that corny ass ending ot Secret Rings. "A mountain of handkerchiefs" jesus fucking christ.

>>160292760
I just want to look up the cutscenes and voice lines on youtube and see if these writers can make something more interesting than Pontaff.

>>160295205
>melodrama
I don't think you know what the word means.

Both of them were standard kids cartoon plots.

>>160295372
That's what I was getting at.

>>160295434
To be fair, Sir Knuckles trying to commit sudoku was a bit over the top.

>>160295434
Did you miss the entire fucking climax of Secret Rings? Shahra dying after betraying Sonic, Sonic getting pissed, that whole thing? That was awful. And Knuckles almost killing himself in fucking Black Knight. Or Merlina going evil because muh eternal life. It was dogshit

>>160295538

Merlina being the actual antagonist was a decent twist for a Sonic game.

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>>160295503
>>160295538
Sudoku is treated comically in Japanese kids shows. I'm not even kidding. To them it was a gag, not anything serious. Obviously any explicit violence is a big no, but they have no problems joking about that kind of subject matter.

>>160295503
Honestly, when I saw that for the first time I was more concerned that they got chivalry confused with bushido.

>>160295807
It was, but her motivation was dumb. I dunno, just felt really out of place in a Sonic game.
>>160295827
I think Japan has a really fucked up sense of humor but that's for another time

>>160295827
Well it is a big part of their culture so no surprise there.

>>160295882
Death is talked about in western shows and western dubs all the time too, they just have to say shit like "destroy" or "sent to the Shadow Realm" instead to get around retarded parental groups. Again, no explicit graphic violence is shown, but it's understood what they're talking about, because kids are precious snowflakes who will mentally break once their innocent worldview is shattered.

>>160296094
I dunno. I'm pretty sure I've heard kill and die more often in cartoons nowadays.

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>>160295827
>Sudoku is treated comically in Japanese kids shows.
I never understood why
I like the game :^)

>>160295882
>her motivation was dumb

Keeping her kingdom from being destroyed sounds like a good motivation to me.

>>160297198
This is correct. Some kid's cartoons/film/video games at some point said those words.

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>>160297198
It depends on the decade and where it was made.

Like, this was okay for a comic sold in newsagents and also ran comedic stuff like Billy Bunter. Back in the 1970s in the UK, but on television a few decades later they had to rename Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to 'Hero' Turtles because ninja weapons were banned. Censorship never really makes much sense a lot of the time.

>>160295205
>Talking sword and it turns out Sonic is King Arthur? That's retarded

I find it odd this breaks your suspension of disbelief in a series about a talking hedgehog that runs fast.

>>160298824
Tails and Sonic are not for sexual

>>160299058
You're right
Replace Tails with Knuckles

>>160299491
Or better yet Replace Sonic with Honey

>>160298391
Because I can only suspend my disbelief so far

>>160300319
Wait, it's not his speed, he's using the Chaos Emerald to warp!

>>160295205
I felt that Secret Rings had some nice ideas but ultimately failed in execution. I always love it when heroes get emotionally charged, like in Fist of the North Star or G Gundam, so seeing Sonic actually getting pissed off at a villain was refreshing. I also loved that bit where he used the lamp against Erazor. Everything else sucked, though, I agree.

With Black Knight, it was largely the exploration of Sonic's character that's barely been done in the other games. I really feel like it's the only game in the series where his values and motives get some spotlight.

Also, I'm one of those guys who thinks Sonic can be a bit more serious than a child's comedy cartoon and still be done well.

>>160300319
That Sonic doesn't look very cute.

>>160301109
>With Black Knight, it was largely the exploration of Sonic's character that's barely been done in the other games. I really feel like it's the only game in the series where his values and motives get some spotlight.
What exploration? "I don't like people doing evil things" isn't exactly the height of character

>>160300529
So a talking blue hedgehog is fine, but a talking sword, which is a old concept for fantasy, in a game taking place in a classic fantasy setting, is too much?

Sonic being King Arthur was dumb, though, but I wonder if it was supposed to be meant that he had earned the title, rather than he's just Arthur because he's Arthur.

>>160301283
Yes. Because Sonic and Arthurian myth just clashes in the weirdest way. Why a talking sword? Why King Arthur? It screams of desperation

>>160301410
Why a bunch of magical crystals? Why the standard, run-of-the-mill evil scientist?

>>160301227
The fact that he's willing to go against a legendary hero to do what he thinks is right? How he remains standing up against Merlina despite being constantly beaten down, not out of some principle or code, but because it's what he feels he should do? How he went to save the villagers from the dragon even though he was running out of time to return to the lady of the lake? The entire core of Sonic's character is that he doesn't follow some kind of set morals or do what's commonly considered the "good" thing. He just does what he personally feels he should do at the time, and to hell with whatever anyone else thinks of his actions. It's what his theme in the Adventure games is all about, even if it doesn't actually show up much in those games.

>>160301283
>>160301410
It's called the storybook series for a reason. They're stories, and Sonic takes the part of a character playing a role, just like how all the other characters pop up in story roles like Knuckles, Shadow and Blaze as knights or Tails as the blacksmith. In Black Knight, Sonic played the role of King Arthur. Nothing more complicated than that. It would've been the same if they did that Greek mythology game they were thinking of.

Although I still say they should do a Black Knight arc in the main comic because the potential for shenanigans are endless, but that's another story.

>>160301410
Now you mention it, I never recall there being a talking sword in any take on the Arthurian legend.

In fact, for a game set in the Arthurian legend, there's not a great amount relating it to the Arthurian legend apart from the names and location.

I mean, you'd think a game where Sonic gets a sword would be a rather jolly jape through some swashbuckling adventure. Rather than some hammy attempt at saying 'you should live for the moment rather than trying to prolong everything' or something like that.

>>160301640
Because they managed to fit the original aesthetic and tone Sonic had. Sonic was built for more sci-fi/low fantasy stuff as opposed to the high fantasy of King fucking Arthur
>>160301738
>I mean, you'd think a game where Sonic gets a sword would be a rather jolly jape through some swashbuckling adventure. Rather than some hammy attempt at saying 'you should live for the moment rather than trying to prolong everything' or something like that.
Yeah, makes you wonder why they did it. And my god was that message conveyed in the corniest fucking way possible. Jesus fucking christ
>>160301731
>It's called the storybook series for a reason. They're stories, and Sonic takes the part of a character playing a role, just like how all the other characters pop up in story roles like Knuckles, Shadow and Blaze as knights or Tails as the blacksmith. In Black Knight, Sonic played the role of King Arthur. Nothing more complicated than that. It would've been the same if they did that Greek mythology game they were thinking of.
But why do that in the first place? Why put him in these mythological locations? What's the fucking point?

>>160301837
>But why do that in the first place? Why put him in these mythological locations? What's the fucking point?
What's the fucking point in making any game? They felt like it, there's no other explanation necessary.

>>160301726
>He just does what he personally feels he should do at the time, and to hell with whatever anyone else thinks of his actions.

Isn't that a bit selfish though?

I mean, he does follow a moral code, it's just his moral code. However it's clearly based off other moral codes and the whole 'do unto others' stuff. I mean, there's nothing he did that wouldn't be considered outside the normal spectrum of a hero who does things for other people.

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>>160294316
I'm going to have these images confiscated you do not show cats in this light

>>160301731
>Sonic played the role of King Arthur.

So... he dies at the end at the hands of his own son?

>>160302348
Merlina did say that was to be the eventual fate of the kingdom, but that happens some time in the future.

>>160302182
>Isn't that a bit selfish though?
Yes? Nothing says Sonic isn't selfish in certain ways. He also has an ego, among other character flaws. He's not a perfect goody-two-shoes by any means.

>>160302348
Presumably, Sonic left before that could take place, if you believe he's telling Amy the truth in the first place.

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>>160293287
Playful Gold is kind of untouched

>>160302579
I like the idea that it was all a lie to get out of a date with Amy.

>>160302427
Isn't fate what we make of it? I mean not every telling of the legend ends that way.

To be quite honest, the whole plot just isn't fun. I mean everyone takes it so damn seriously, except Sonic, but Sonic's too busy being a 'lol, you faggots and your principles, we're just dust in the wind dude', fucking hippie.

I mean, fuck, how do you take putting Sonic in a medieval setting and manage to make it so melancholic?

>>160303097
>how do you take [...] a medieval setting and manage to make it so melancholic?
Very fucking easily.

Besides, it's not like the entire plot was soap opera melodrama. It was adventurous more than anything else. You seem to think it's serious just because it isn't Pontaff "let's pretend we're funny even though we clearly aren't" shit.

>>160303097
>I mean, fuck, how do you take putting Sonic in a medieval setting and manage to make it so melancholic?
Bad writing that's how. How people give this plot so much love but shit on Chronicles because it has characters not be 100% baffles me

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>>160286542
Honey and Sonic sparring.

>>160293287
Seconding this.

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>>160303097
>I mean, fuck, how do you take putting Sonic in a medieval setting and manage to make it so melancholic?
You're missing the point. Merlina wants the world to continue forever, but doing so turns the world in a bleak, sterile hellscape. Yeah everything will end, but that's why it's important to live every day to the fullest and go off adventuring beating up ancient water gods and egg-shaped scientists and shit instead of sitting on your ass being content with everything being the same. Black Knight is in fact extremely close to Sonic's original classic-era messages, which is why people like it so much.

>>160303097

>I mean everyone takes it so damn seriously, except Sonic

it's almost as if that's the point or something

>>160303350
>Bad writing that's how. How people give this plot so much love but shit on Chronicles because it has characters not be 100% nice baffles me
There, I fixed it

>>160303350
I don't think anyone shits on Chronicles for the story unless they're "classic characters only, Pontaff are great" fags. Out of all of Chronicles' weak points, story isn't one of them.

>>160303916
It's a damn shame that I had to watch all the cutscenes on Youtube because the gameplay was hot garbage
But I've seen people bitch that Sonic was "Too mean" for some fucking reason or that everyone was out of character, which I didn't see. In fact, I liked Sonic being a bit rougher around the edges.

>>160303236
>Pontaff

I forget the term, but just because I think Black Knight is bad doesn't mean I think his writing is good.

I mean shit, maybe it's the voice acting but I never got a sense of adventure out of this game.

Also, no Dr Eggman, fucking worthless.

>>160303629
But Sonic doesn't have to live with the consequences of his actions. He doesn't have a Kingdom to run, so his attitude just struck me as selfish rather than endearing. I know characters don't have to be likeable but Sonic is a character whom I prefer to like. And if you are going to be unlikable then at least be fucking entertaining about it, rather than some self-righteous twat.

>>160304025
>but Sonic is a character whom I prefer to like. And if you are going to be unlikable then at least be fucking entertaining about it, rather than some self-righteous twat.
Which is why Chronicles Sonic works. He could be unlikable at times, but he was so endearing about being a complete cock to everyone

>>160304025
Again, you're missing the whole point. See >>160303620

>>160304232
So? Just because Sonic can afford to freeload off other people and travel the world doesn't mean everyone else can. Can't the guy show some empathy and realise people have responsibilities to uphold?

>>160304369
I don't think you even know what you're arguing about right now. The world isn't going to end tomorrow. Everything will end eventually, and turning a world into hell just to make it last forever is no way to live. Sonic himself has to live with his own philosophy because he too will die at some point, and he's fine with it. Live life as one giant adventure, so you have no regrets.

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>>160304369
Sonic is all about Freedom. Knuckles is the one representing Responsibility.

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>>160304528

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>>160304528
>tfw they're getting old and need quite a bit of warmup

>>160304518
Yeah, well just kill Merlina, give the crown to some twat and go home for tea and crumpets. You don't have to wax philosophical over this shit? It's fucking turgid.

>>160304528
I was there when he came out on stage, everyone was fucking ecstatic. The energy in the room was unreal.

>>160304724
Merlina started. Sonic just answered her.

You're being a lot more melancholic than the game was.

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>>160304725
>tfw it was ruined by the stream faggots

>>160304805
Okay, I'm just rewatching this.

I realise why I hate it, it just keeps going on, and it's not as clever as it thinks it is. Maybe it's because the cutscenes are all slideshows but I'm just getting this sense 'Get on with it' from a much better take on the Arthurian legend.

In fact, the only part I really like so far is Sonic and his attachment to chili dogs at the start. That conveys his laid back attitude a lot better than any dialogue in this game so far.

Also, as someone who's played more than a fair share of Warhammer, Arthur's pauldrons are stupid and I hate how the Nips do fantasy designs.

I mean, seriously, what's wrong with realistic armor design?

>>160304164
But Sonic would only be a dick in Chronicles if you chose him to say dickish things.

Otherwise, you could also have Chronicles Sonic be a nice guy.

>>160305082
>why is this game about a blue fast hedgehog who falls into a book and ends up with a talking sword and a magician waifu not realistic!?!?!?
Because it was a phantom created by Merlina to look intimidating and act as a ruler to keep everyone in line, you dumbshit.

>>160302732
I love the idea that Sonic made up this whole grand adventure just so he can make Amy think that's why he didn't show up.

Kinda makes it funnier that Amy didn't buy it.

>>160305256
Why is this game about a fast blue hedgehog with a talking magical sword not fucking fun?

>>160305090
I know that, but the dick options were the best ones, but people bitched about the option of doing that, since that's "Out of character" or some shit

First time I've heard some fans arguing over the storybook stories.

>>160305416
Because Wiimote waggling

>>160305416
Because the gameplay is dogshit and it's trying to take itself too seriously for what it fucking IS

>>160305451
To be fair, Sonic shouldn't be too much of a dick. That's why people didn't like Fleetway Sonic, or House of Cards Sonic.

>>160305562
>it's trying to take itself too seriously
You've already been proven wrong on this point, stop pretending you're right.

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>>160305616
He wasn't too much of a dick. He still cared about his friends, just in his own way

>>160305616
I wouldn't mind Sonic being a dick if he was like Lord Flashheart, but maybe not so sexual. Then again, if Sonic was voiced by Rik Mayall he'd be the best character ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP1vSIOmCc4

Honestly, that ending was how Sonic reacted to all of the smaltz in Black Knight I'd love it.

>>160305362
I mean, would you really buy that story?

>>160305616
Britfags liked Britfag Sonic. House of Cards is overstated because Sonic realized he was full of shit and apologized immediately once Tails actually told him.

>>160305725
I find this, strangely adorable.

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>>160305725
cute

>>160305901
Considering the things Sonic, Amy & the others encountered, yeah.

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>>160304121
>those paws

>>160305812
Also forgot to add, he's much more appealing when he's a gigantic bellend who very, VERY deep down cares

>>160306542
I liked how they put it at the end of the most recent Knuckles arc. He mocks his enemies, he teases his friends.

Wait I got it.

The reason why I hated Black Knight was because Sonic kept on talking and explaining himself, when really, his actions would have spoken much louder than words. I mean, if all he did was more like Boom Sonic and just completely unphased by most of what happened it would have been much more enjoyable.

>>160303995
He was only mean if you made him mean. You could make him Amy's knight in shining armor if you wanted.

>>160307070
>He was only mean if you made him mean. You could make him Amy's knight in shining armor if you wanted.
Yeah but making him a literal white knight was boring as sin

>>160307312
Either way it was up to the player.

>>160307687
>Can _____ be sexualized?

Yes.

>>160307687
Maybe to a girl robot. But I highly doubt he could be sexualized to human tastes due to his emotionlessness.

>>160305941
>Sonic realized he was full of shit
But he was right.

>>160308350
Yes, but he went at it the wrong way. Plus, he dated his bro's crush. That was a dick move.

>>160308603
>Sudoku is treated comically in Japanese k
>Saving from a psychotic bitch
>Dick move

>>160308603
Sonic did nothing wrong
>Saved his bro from being fucked up forever by psycho bitch while scoring with emotionally damaged pussy
Win-win right there. He learned what Antoine did YEARS before: Always go after the damaged ones

>>160307848
He orgasm to destructions

>>160308793
>>160308870
Fiona wouldn't have dated his ass anyway. Sonic did it cause he was on the rebound but lied to himself that he was doing it for Tails to justify it and then acting like Tails shouldn't be upset.

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>>160292776
because her butt is so cute I want to see it up close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srj2ZS5xxbE

>>160309062
He still ended up saving his ass from being even more hurt, so he still did nothing wrong. What Tails did wrong was not going for Li Moon or Barby. That's where he really fucked up

>>160305026
Yeah I heard the stream was awful

Wouldn't know, I was too busy playing mania and meeting izuka :^)

>>160309289
But did you have some #STUFFEDNACHOS?

>>160309208

I like that Station Square is in the background of Emerald Coast.

>>160309208
There's a bizarre lack of coin placement in those clips

>>160309234
>He still ended up saving his ass from being even more hurt

Did he? If Sonic never dated Fiona, Tails would just continue to pine over her until Scourge eventually swept her up. Sonic dating her didn't make him care for her less since he begged her to stay. Except now he wouldn't be suppressing resentment against his bro for so long.

>Li Moon

The reboot fucked that up.

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>>160309372
Yes and they were mediocre

Also had chili dogs and onion rings.

>>160309458
>Coins

8/10 triggered my autism

>>160309580
>Did he? If Sonic never dated Fiona, Tails would just continue to pine over her until Scourge eventually swept her up. Sonic dating her didn't make him care for her less since he begged her to stay. Except now he wouldn't be suppressing resentment against his bro for so long.
Yeah. IT did make it hurt less. Now Tails knew he had no chance instead of trying to go for something he thought could work. Besides, he quickly forgave Sonic anyways

>>160309664
>Besides, he quickly forgave Sonic anyways

He didn't forgive him until House of Cards though.

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>>160309660
I never thought I'd say this, but that chili dog looks really good.

oh god

Why are we talking about that horrible Sonic/Tails/Fiona/Scourge storyline?

>>160309821
When we were in line Aaron came out and talked to us for a couple minutes and he said there would be food, and I said later to the people i met if it's not chili dogs and onion rings this franchise is fucked.

Way to go sega.

>>160309783
Well, after all was said and done

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wait hold on; carnival night is in lego dimensions? what song are they going to use?

Sonic rush is underrated

>>160310131
should Blaze be brought to 3d lads?

>>160310106

neither

all the songs are "sorta kinda not really" renditions of their respective tracks except for maybe the SA1 songs

>>160309087
kek

>>160310201
Already happened. In Sonic 06.