/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

Explain to me why AI Germany always fucks up when I do the 1939 start?

They can't even handle the Netherlands/Belgium for some dumbass reason.

>>160007030
1936 start, I mean, not the 1939 start.

>>159996712
Looks like Dirty Red from Mahoyo.

>>160007030
>>160007087
What game you cunt.

>>160007030
Balance is fucked up

>>160006986
Based.

>>160007136
Crusader Kings 5

>>160007134
>>160007064
Is it a comfy game? Did you just focus on industry all game?

>>160007308
>Is it a comfy game
Yea its alright, if you are into that. I like seeing pops assimilate.

>Did you just focus on industry all game
Hardly just build liquor factories and oil refinery.

You can take the advice other people gave me and just spam prestige and maybe ships to become GP and independent. Also reminder that I cheated to get Kars from Russians.

>>160007603
>just build liquor factories
Ah, so you're just shitposting. A shame.

>>160007645
>Ah, so you're just shitposting
I am not, its just always works. That is why its a meme.

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Reminder that the M&T mods are retards who can't tell the difference between pressing a button in a video game and slaughtering thousands of people in real life.

>>160007898
mod it back in senpai and post it in the M&T forums as a minimod

>>160008219
Jesus I can imagine the salt and the repeated attempts to get it pulled off and the uploader banned.

>>160008290
they don't even have to know, just make a minimod that has nothing to do with genocide and secretly include the 'attack natives' button back in

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does this trigger people here?

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>>160008219
I don't think that would fly.

>>160006686
Asking again

>>160008464
>GroB Spainiums

Latin Union tag when?

>>160008502
you don't even have to mention the genocide feature to the devs when you discuss your minimod for release

what don't you understand by 'not mention at all'

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>>160008665
That would require meta-culture groups, since it would be a union incorporating several culture groups.

HoI4, is dispersed industry or concentrated industry better?

I feel like the whole efficiency thing really makes you have to go dispersed, but I'm not sure how much of an effect that extra ten percent output you get from focus would have.

>>160008716
Well I mean they can just pull it off, I'm pretty sure they're basically mods within their subforums.

>>160008756
>option to reply underneath the post
Why did you make a reddit account?

>>160009209
>>160008756
Wait, that's your own post. It has the option to edit. What the fuck man?

>>160009239
KEK

>>160006986
W&B

>>160009209
Because reddit is better, I'm just here as part of our domination of /gag/

>>160009364
We still got HPM bitch what modders does le redito have?

>>160009415
Idhrendur makes converters.

>>160009415
Rangerage
Meneth
Wiz
Paradoxplaza mod team
Floris

Basically every nodder is in reddit.

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>>160009364
>>160008756
Found your account

https://www.reddit.com/user/ToaKraka

This is a goldmine, by the way.

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>>160009532
:^)

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>>160009532
>/r/4chanarchy
god what a fag

>>160009605
what an obvious shop

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>>160009710
I don't see what makes it obvious.
>Weird fonts
I use custom styles.

>>160009710
>shop
What's he selling?

>>160009532
>>160009636
why does reddit have dedicated board to talk about 4chan?

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>>160009532
He even donated money to reddit.

>>160009810
They can gain upvote points by screencapping and posting stuff from here.

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>>160009828
That was literally one time--and it was in protest against the r/paradoxplaza mods' unreasonable censorship.

>>160009810
4chan is scary

>>160009872
You giving your money to reddit sure showed them. How will they ever recover?

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>tfw M&T's spaghetti provinces will never be rationalized

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>>160009872
>Srbija Strong Remove CENSORED
Jesus, what a shithole.

Tell me a story /gsg/

What do you listen to while playing /gsg/?
Link related for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWun7O-jM5c
Anyone got some more comfy post-punk they can recommend me?

>>160009948
what is this

...Marco...

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>>160010073
It's the result of a computer program that automagically removes border gore.

>>160010127
Who would be this autistic?

>>160010127
>The Netherlands

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>>160010172
Is writing a moderately-complex program for fun really that autistic? Tell that to /g/.

>>160010230
but the results look like shit

>>160010230
It is when the point is to turn complex shapes with no discernable pattern (ie real life borders) into simple brightly colored polygons

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>>160010230
>>160010127
>>160009948
>wanting shitty square/rounded provinces

M&T's map is a simplification of real life while keeping it true to the spaghetti-meister that is the HRE

>>160010230
Have you tried playing with this map

>>160010230
Why not just turn it into a hex based game then?

>>160010325
The close-cropped edges introduced horrible anomalies in the map of Spain. The other two examples look okay, in my opinion.

>>160010409
Taking hours to mess with the nudge tool and the positions file would be a lot more autistic than merely writing a cool program. This was just a random project--totally for fun.

>>160010486
The entire point of this program is to make the map as close to a hexagonal grid as possible, but without changing any of the existing province sizes and adjacencies.

The code is here, if anyone cares: http://pastebin.com/JTw68YR0

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Americans are white and based

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>tfw 2 (You)s in a single reply

>>160010703
I wonder if American culture would have went the same way if instead of the English colonizing the East Coast, it were a latin country

What is the best way to end the Oriental crisis for Ottomans - to take over the land of Egypt or tomake it a puppet? After doing the first, the Nyle turned into a neverending rebelfest for decades to come, which forced me to stop the party alltogether. Will there be a decision to reintegrate Egypt later if I take it as a puppet? I'm also worried someone will start digging the Valley or build Suez.

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In the Warhammer mod for CK2, are regular the Dwarf/Chaos Dwarf factions fully fleshed out or are they still using placeholder decisions/events?

>>160010839
You would have Mexica the size of a continent. With Western coast probably occupied by Japs.

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Both Crusader Kings 2 and Hearts of Iron IV keep crashing for me on autosave. I've tried reinstalling the game from multiple sources/torrents, switching "decompress saves" from on to off and off to on, changing the save intervals, running the game as an administrator, running the game in various compatibility modes etc.

What do I do to make the game playable again?

>>160010389
I don't know, those look pretty smooth in comparison to the lagged mess that is M&T. You know you fucked up in the genetic race when the HRE draws better borders than you.

>>160010950
Yeah latin-dominated America would have been absolutely dreadful. What about a French culture being the dominant force in the colonies? We would be colonising other galaxies by now.

>>160010230
>>160010127
>>160009948
Anyone have a link to M&T?

Too lazy to google it myself tbqh

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>>160011079

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What the fuck? I just realized belgiums primary culture is this protodindu french shit, why isn't it flemish? they are the majority culture and much better in my opinion than these Wallooons.

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>>160009872
>kebab
>against the rules
>kebab
kebab
>kebab

>>160009872
Fuck off back to Rabbit, just because you choose to associate with a orwellian circlejerk shithole doesn't mean you get to come here and cry about it here. You made your bed.

>>160009973
>late autumn evening in a bad part of a town in 2014. Serbia
>30 year old washed up lowlife small time criminal M, that is on every government blacklist, has 8 euros and a lot of time
>Ms favorite small time dealers 1 trough 3 are not available, they are all watching champions league
>M is desperate for some weed to complement his cheap beer drinking night with his lowlife construction worker friend M2
>M2s house is cold as fuck but no one is there to bother the two drunkards
>M2 is tired from his manual labor job but he calls his dyke acquaintance,20 something Maya, from the rich part of town, to score some weed
>she doesn't deliver but says that M can come to her house for weed and to fix her computer while he is there
>M despises dykes and homosexuals but he is a stoner desperate for weed so he goes to Mayas house
>young girl opens the door of a big richfag house, it can't be Maya because she looks cute and feminine
>M pretends to think she is Maya and starts asking her about the computer and weed to finish the deal as fast as possible
>girl responds a bit confused but with a look in her eyes that M didn't see in long time
>it has been a while since a girl looked at M in that way, like how a caged bird looks at a free bird

>>160011219
Comparing lands colonised by French people to subjugated Africans and towelheads isn't fair though. The British ahd the right idea of erradicating and displacing the savages, which is where the Spaniards fucked up.

>>160011282
No, Belgium was invented by frogs with the help of the Eternal Anglo.

>>160010839
That already exists, it's called "Brazil".

>years later
>still no mod that removes mana gain and use altogether from EU4

fuck me

>>160008464
>golden horde in 1821
How

>>160012225
Someone was contemplating it on the forums: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/972399

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I installed MEIOU (EU3) correctly and it crashes while loading. What do

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>>160010970
P-please respond

When would it be justifiable or acceptable to blob?

Not that I'm asking because I avoid blobbing, I treat gsg's like I'm bob ross. But I'm curious.

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Which one is the best to start with?
I'm thinking Sieg, Shogun on the Far East Empire
but im not sure?

Also, custom character is cheating.

>>160012878
You just gave me unexpected nostalgia

>>160012868
https://steamcommunity.com/app/203770/discussions/0/617319460912953437/?ctp=3

Did you even try looking up a solution?

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>>160012815

>>160012815

reinstall
make sure you have both versions up-to-date
Should it still not work, put your pc into the trash and buy a better one that can handle that shittty mod

>>160012875
Uniting cultures, historical basis, colonizing.

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Feels good

>>160012875
Geography and economical value while paying attention to which of your neighbours are weak are your friends. You know, kind of like most conquest happened historically. Ignore retards who do nothing but autistically recreate anachronistic empireblobs.

>>160009872
this is some impressive bait

>>160009948
>>160010127
>>160010230
you don't understand
what you propose is the definition of bordergore. jaggy borders all around the place are perfect when historical, as they often were. nobody has square borders.

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Nice

>>160013758
Looks like they elected Drumpf about 80 years early.

>>160013812
>Looks like they elected Drumpf about 80 years early
you fucked that up, you should have said that they elected Trumps father

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>>160013430
det känns bra

Can someone explain to me the difference between VickyMod, HPM, Commiemod etc?

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What's going on here?

There's two popes, one is Chalcedonian, the other is Catholic.
Chalcedonian pope rules the Papal state of Rome.
Catholic pope rules a symetrical Papal state but rules from Orbetello.

Chalcepope and all his vassals are Chalcedonian,
but only Catholicpope is Catholic among his faction. His vassals are all Chalcedonian.

Btw, the great schism hasn't been triggered yet, to my knowledge. Is this the start of it?
I've never played this far into the game from Charlemagne start on CK2+ so I don't know what the fuck to expect tbqh familia.

>>160014452
no

How do I become Germany in EU4?

Is Brandenburg > Prussia > Germany really the best way?

>>160014493
When I played CK2+ the schism started over the bishop of rome and the bishop of constantinople getting into a hissy fit over some mercenary company's faith.

I haven't played it in a while though since I switched to HIP. I hope they bring over the 1000 AD start, the schism mechanics and some of the heresy stuff over to HIP and then it'd be perfect t.b.h.

>>160014737
>I hope they bring over the 1000 AD start, the schism mechanics and some of the heresy stuff over to HIP and then it'd be perfect t.b.h.
The HIP modders have stated that they won't do anything with Chalcedonian Christianity, since the schism had already happened de facto (if not de jure) by 867.
They do plan to move the 1066 start date back to 955 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lechfeld_(955)) eventually, but they're doing it gradually--the next update will be for 1043.

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WE WUZ INDIANZ N SHIET

>>160014959
Awh. I liked the chalcedonian mechanics they had in place for CK2+, very sad to see they aren't doing it. Have there been any news for importing any of the other CK2+ mechanics that still aren't in?

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>>160007030
Because Germany winning would be another Shoa

Which Paradox Game has the best combat system?

>>160013812
DAE le Drumpf is Hitler xDxD

>>160015826
Crusader Kings 2

>>160015918
You always take the bait, BENIS. I knew you'd show up.

>>160014737
>getting into a hissy fit over some mercenary company's faith.

So this could be a trigger for the schism?
Do I have to pick a side soon?

>>160006986
Absolutely based.

>>160015826
Cities: Skylines

>>160016159
It happened around the 1000's for me. Although your situation with the catholic pope just randomly appearing might be a bug, since that didn't happen. I just got an event chain and since I was the byz emperor I ended up orthodox automatically.

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>>160010389
Good lord, why are krauts so autistic

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>>160014680
It's not the best way. It's the only way

>>160015826
hoy4

Playing HPM as the Argies, I got into a war to puppet Paraguay during their war with Brazil, were there any events I missed by doing so?

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>Ottomans is a member of The Protestant League

>>160014680
did teutonic one
felt good
I hear they added a lot of brandenburg events though

>>160018461
they did join the 30 years war though

>>160010975
>implying the borders are 'jagged' in game

Does the game seriously not fucking tell you if you lose convoys?

I'm completely out all of a sudden, no longer receiving anything from my overseas holdings and I can't move troops from the mainland anymore.

I mean, there were a few times where british boats killed some of my convoys, but not nearly to the point where I suddenly ran out.

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>>160020753
Bad idea, lad

>>160020831
We decided it. Now you can be immature and deny it or do the right thing and accept it.

I'm just mocking the idiots who talk in the name of the whole general.

>>160020923
Pretty bad meme, I rate it 4/10

>>160020923
I can fundamentally say all of /gsg/ is /pol/
>>160021012
>that high
lad..

>>160008756
>That would require meta-culture groups, since it would be a union incorporating several culture groups.
Or rework how the cultures work, based on quantitative cultural proximity.
(you can form the Latin Union if your primary culture is Umbrian or up to 10.0 distant from Umbrian. Any culture closer than 12.0 is accepted as part of the cultural union.)

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What do familia?

>>160021659
Democracy

>>160021659
Start with stop talking like a retard

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>>160021860

>>160021659
>there is an option for monarchy
>this fag is still asking questions

>>160022012

>le reactionary meme

>>160022061
>meme

>>160011079
What about Prussian?

>>160022061
>meme

what post was >>160000000

>>160022254
>German autism spread to the new world
Please no, the world isn't ready

>>160021659
If you actually want to get anywhere you have to be a democracy, if you're going full meme then presidential dictatorship.

>Historical Project Mod 0.3.6 - 15/09/2016
>15/09/2016
So HPM is dead?

>>160022410
>steamcordplaza running wild

>>160021860
Not him.

>Start with stop talking like a retard
>WAAAAAHHHHHH HE ISN'T USING ONE OF MY APPROVED MEMES!!!!!

>>160022929
Memes should require a licence.

>>160023025
Do you have a license to meme then?

>>160023025
We decided that no licenses are required.

Any functional mod of WW1 in HoI4?
Also, I've seem AI in Millenium Mod is retarded, is that MOD intended for online play or just unfinished yet?

>>160023717
>HoI4

>>160023717
Hearts of Iron 4 by Paradox interactive is not a good game and you shouldn't be playing it. Play Metal Gear Rising instead if you haven't yet.

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>>160024074
>>160023851
Sure mates, now tell me about the mods.

>>160023717
>>160024074
We aren't talking about HoI4 games, and we decided you shouldn't be playing it.

>>160024203
I am serious. You should no be playing that game. Play a different game. Valkyria Chronicles is a fun game. Try that.

>>160021551
On what landscape would this "quantitative cultural proximity" be measured? Is the space of human cultures 1D, 2D, or 3D?

It sounds a lot more complicated than metagroups, which can be extracted from Wikipedia with ease.

>>160024203
Lad, go ask /r/ paradoxplaza, we don't like that shit here.

>>160013430
post liquor

>>160024370
>On what landscape would this "quantitative cultural proximity" be measured? Is the space of human cultures 1D, 2D, or 3D?

For the purposes of the game, 1D is fine. Just a number to show the relationship between two cultures - the larger, the more distant.

>It sounds a lot more complicated than metagroups, which can be extracted from Wikipedia with ease.
You can only extract metagroups from Wikipedia with ease if you confuse culture with linguistic families. (Language is only part of the culture).

>>160024568
>hoi4 babby gets so mad at being BTFO that he scrolls through half the thread to find a vicky post he can post the liquor meme at
Pathetic.

>>160024568
>>160024568
already did in previous thread

were can you pirate hoi4 1.2?

>>160025479
Right here
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/9458028/Metal_Gear_Rising_Revengeance-RELOADED

>>160025670
ebin

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>Good healthcare
I want a revolution too

>>160002223
Don't know if you're still having trouble anon but it's cause with the Purchase of Alaska you get cores on the uncolonized land.

>>160026463
In EU4, suppose you're weak as fuck and the enemy has direct access to your capital but your allies are far stronger than your enemy. What would be the sensible thing to do with your army? Merc up or blackflag it?

>>160026574
Is replying to V2 with EU4 posts a new meme?

>>160026143
did you blob to nigeria?

>>160026652
Sorry, I didn't mean to quote it. I just clicked the post to open the quick reply.

>>160024836
>For the purposes of the game, 1D is fine. Just a number to show the relationship between two cultures - the larger, the more distant.
I think you missed my point.

Let's say that the distance between English and French is 2, and the distance between French and Spanish is 1. What's the distance between English and Spanish? If all cultures exist in a 1D space, then the answer MUST be either 1 or 3--no other values are possible. If all cultures exist in a 2D space, then the answer can be ANYTHING between 1 and 3. (Note that a 3D space has similar prior-constraint problems when considering three cultures, a 4D space has problems with four cultures, etc.)

In contrast, in the metagroup system, each culture, group, metagroup, etc. is effectively its own dimension (I think, though I could be wrong), and no such constraints exist.

>You can only extract metagroups from Wikipedia with ease if you confuse culture with linguistic families. (Language is only part of the culture).
Still, language families are a useful starting-point, and tweaks based on non-linguistic culture can jump off from there.

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Are there any map mods for EUIV and HOI4 that make them look more like Vicky II or HOI3?

How do I go Serbia-Yugoslavia?
I'm bored out of my mind because Russia won't fight the T*rkroaches for me and I'm just durdling

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is kaiserreich for vicky any good?

>>160026574
Depends on how strong is your enemies army.

In my Theodoro game Crimea starts with 11k troops right next the only province I had.
So I dumped all my admin and diplo mana into development and sold all my ships and went into dept to recruit 13k troops. 11 infantry and 2 cav.
Going ~150 ducats into debt payed of and I won the first war that let me grow from 9 development to ~60. Then the game becomes less hard. 150 gold early is much more valuable than later, as you get bigger the relative value of the gold is smaller .

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>>160026143

>>160026843
>Let's say that the distance between English and French is 2, and the distance between French and Spanish is 1. What's the distance between English and Spanish?
Larger than both Francien-English and Francien-Castilian for sure. _How large_ can be solved by two ways:

>the hard way
Give real life cultural differences arbitrary values, and sum them up. Different religion, time since the last common linguistic ancestor, amount of borrowed vocabulary, habits and customs... this would require lots of work, but it would be great if you see EU4 as a historical simulator. [I can extend upon that if you want]

>the easy way
On the other hand, if you see EU4 as a game, you can begin by the gameplay elements already present: the culture groups. Begin with those _initial_ distances:
>cultures currently belong to the same culture group = 0.50
>cultures currently belong to different culture groups = 1.00
As such, it would behave the same as culture groups. But then you can tweak the values to the effect you want.

Do you want Catalans to revolt a bit more under Castilian rule? Increase the castilian-catalan distance from 0.50 to 0.75, then playtest.
Do you want them to revolt a bit less under Gascon rule? Decrease the catalan-gascon distance from 1.00 to 0.75 or 0.43 or whatever, then playtest.

Then, for the Latin Union thing, the requirements could be simply "primary culture is less distant from Umbrian than 0.95" or whatever.

>>160028060
I'm Holland, trying to get independence from Burgundy; allies are France and Austria.
At the first attempt, Burgundians simply wiped out my 5 starting troops.

>DDRJake is streaming RIGHT NOW and you're not watching
wtf

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Any tips for playing as a fascist Greece in Hearts of Iron 4?

We start out with no air force, no tanks, no artillery, a pitiful army, and somewhat decent small navy. It took me half of 1936 just to get full supplies for the divisions I started with. However, I do have 2 battalions of towed artillery in each infantry division now; plus some interwar fighters and AA guns in my major areas. I have 11 offensive divisions who are trained to rank 3, and are on the border with Turkey. I also researched radio, and some basic industry-boosting stuff. I'm building a heavy cruiser for my surface fleet, which will then be 2 heavy cruisers, 1 light cruiser, and 8 destroyers. I also have a fleet with 6 submarines, and each fleet has its own admiral. They probably won't be able to do much besides shore bombard Istanbul. I have no clue where the Turkish navy is.

Politics wise, I've become officially majority Fascist, and I've joined Germany in the Axis. I'm also improving relations with Italy, Romania, and Nationalist Spain, and I'm empowering the Iron Guard in Romania so it will be easier for them to take-over in the future. I'm preparing to take Istanbul back from the Turks as a war goal. I was hoping to get Italy to help me, since they are closer, and not drag Germany into the war. Is there any way to get Italy to join the Axis faster, then get them specifically to help me fight the Turks?

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>>160028349
forgot pic

>>160028713
>24,000 employees making 9k profit is impossible accoriding to you

>>160028310
Just disband your army and wait for them to win the war for you.

Watch flyingdutchy on youtube. he has the Holland into Netherlands campaign.

>>160028371
Forgot to mention that I built a basic synthetic oil refinery in Macedonia.

Greece starts out with a shit-ton of aluminum, but no oil. I've been trading for oil with Romania and Iraq up to this point. I was afraid that my Iraqi oil would get cut-off by the British when WWII starts, because they would lock-down the Suez Canal.

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>>160028371
>and I've joined Germany in the Axis.
Ya dun goofed

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>>160028940
>>160028349
Why are the PR shills so overt now?

>>160014537
Thanks.

>>160028310
In 1.18 Burgundy will abandon the PU if you get enough powerful support for independence. If they do this you don't retain the supporters as allies but it's quicker than fighting a war.

>>160018461
>I know nothing about history xdxd :(((

>>160029132
Anytime, friend

By the way what's up with that HoI4 DLC ?
It looks sweet, I'm glad I bought that season pass.

>>160029259
>eu4
>anything to do with history
xDxD

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>>160029027
>not removing Tommy and Kebab, then cleansing the Black Sea of gommies

>>160029375
>le sparda meme
Fuck off, you're only one step above vikings

>>160026843
IMHO the problem with metagroups is they aren't flexible enough. Iberian, French or Italian groups doing the Latin Union? Fine, but what about Romanians? You'd either need to add them as an exception or allow Slovaks and Transylvanians do it too. And what about the Angevin Empire?

Cultural distances allow this kind of stuff in a way players would see as legitimate. And they also allow cultures to drift - this would be amazing for the New World.

>>160028984
Thanks mate, I'll do it.

>>160029256
I'm in 1.17, though. (I couldn't find the "free" 1.18 patches for Linux yet.)

>>160029446
>vikings
>not based aryan warriors that civilised all of europe

>it's a big benis forgets to take his adderall and throws a fit episode
epic

>>160029557
>vikings
>aryans
Fuck off, snownigger

>>160029594
What are you even talking about?

>ally doesn't want to join on promise of land
>use favors
>ally keeps sieged provinces for himself anyway since he does actually want them
>peasants break out in his country
>peaces out
>all the forts get returned back to the enemy instead of me
>le ebin 1.19 fort meme :^^))) t. Johan
>literally trapped inside enemy land with no way in or out because of zone of control
Thanks for the update, paradox

>>160028208
>On the other hand, if you see EU4 as a game, you can begin by the gameplay elements already present: the culture groups.
But that's exactly my point. Why do all this ultra-complicated fiddling around with numbers when you can just use metagroups?

>Same culture group (Castilian vs. Leonese) = brothers = distance 1
>Same culture metagroup (Castilian vs. Parisian) = first cousins = distance 2
>Same culture metametagroup (Castilian vs. Austrian) = second cousins = distance 4
>Same culture metametagroup (Castilian vs. Mashriqi) = third cousins = distance 8
And so on.

Remember also that all this information must be represented IN THE GAME. I'd be REALLY annoyed if I had to flip through an external PDF manual to check the distance between any given pair of cultures--but metagroups would be MUCH simpler to check with an in-game decision-triggered event, and MUCH simpler for the player to understand.

>>What's the distance between English and Spanish?
>Larger than both Francien-English and Francien-Castilian for sure.
Using some kind of logarithmic or exponential distance sounds like the very worst kind of unnecessary complication.

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>>160029515
>gypsies
>Latin

>>160029446
Don't be so harsh on Spartans. They were militaristic and kinda dumb, but at least they didn't live in mud huts like niggers/vikings/abos.

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>theres no such thing as perfect borde..

>>160029831
>militarism
>bad
sup schlomo

>>160029831
I'm talking about meme status

>>160029858
give it all to banat

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>>160029858
Good god

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>>160029993
Banat is actually the tiny dot in the centre, the rest is Hungary, a puppet they released. I didn't even think the AI could release puppets.

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>>160029831
>>160029889
>spirited part not subservient to the logical one
U N J U S T

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>give hoi4 another chance after all these big patches and time since i played at release
>ai is still literally braindead and cant handle attacking or defending or plane usage or anything
>get an endless naval combat locking my whole navy stack against 11 subs

How can you fuck up a game and not fix it that much?

>>160030239
>the paid DLC will fix it, which makes Paradox such a good company that cares about it's fans
How do you achieve these goy levels?

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>>160030168

>>160030423
Fuck off, antisemite

>>160006986
white

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>>160030098
Are you saying the Tartars don't deserve an ethnic homeland, anon?

>>160030239
honestly AI was always brain dead on hoi games
I actually prefer 4 ai to 3 ai

>>160031118
hoi 2's ai was really good if you ignore naval invasions which are really hard to pull off to begin with.
Meanwhile in hoi4 the ai cant react to new events like a new front at all or keeps reshuffling forces and then leaves whole provinces empty.
Its so bad its hilarious.

>>160029801
>Why do all this ultra-complicated fiddling around with numbers when you can just use metagroups?
It isn't complicated.
For the player, the concept is quite simple: "some cultures are closer to yours than others." For the devs or modders, it's literally about changing numbers.

>Remember also that all this information must be represented IN THE GAME.
Select the Culture mapmode.
Click on a province with Castilian culture.
Hover the mouse over a province with Francien culture.
"Cultural distance between Castilian and Francien is ###."

>Using some kind of logarithmic or exponential distance sounds like the very worst kind of unnecessary complication.
Nah, far from that. I'm not implying log or exp should be used at all, I used 1 because 100% and 0.5 because 50%, that's it.

>Why?
Because it's flexible, believable and it can yield the desired outcome. Think on how you would solve the following using metagroups:
1. Galicians should be easy to control if your primary culture is Castilian or Portuguese. However, Portuguese should be unruly to Castilian rulers and vice-versa.
2. Savoyards should be allowed to form both France and Italy, but Milan cannot form France and Provence cannot form Italy.
3. Maltese culture. Both Tunis and Italians blobbing into the area is believable, but metagroups wouldn't allow you to make them both Indoeuropean and Afro-Asiatic.

>>160029858
quite like those borders, not memeing

just dismantle Turkey and give Basqueland and Cataland to Spain

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Did you lads hear about America voting in a fascist, who subsequently couped the government and became president for life?

>>160031226
>keeps reshuffling forces and then leaves whole provinces empty.
oh yeah
there is one thing where ai takes entire army from a big front for a few days, probably assigning them to another front and taking them back in, which is hugely exploitable

I'd take it any day against Germany sending half their army from ostfront to africa the moment they have land access like in 3 though

>>160029801
Also, regarding linguistic groups: don't take them too seriously. They're being slowly replaced by the innovation wave concept, that deals better with things like linguistic continuum and Sprachbund.
(Biology-like clades don't work so well with languages because languages are far more promiscuous to share concepts and innovations than species are to share genes.)

>>160031504
>that prestige
Memes need to end

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>>160030168

>>160031504
>Germany first in industry but third in military

>>160031809
Dismantled France and Russia and occupied a lot of shit. My army actually did very well because I put tanks and planes in there.

>>160029858
Ugly Germany. Anything East to the Neiße river should be Polish.
Free Czechoslovakia.
26+6=1 makes prettier borders than the current ones.
Remove Turds from the Balkans.
Annex Bulgaria, it would make your own borders prettier.
As other Anon said: give Basques and Catalans to Spain.

Otherwise, quite good. How does the New World look like?

>>160030239
Just pirate ffs

>>160031504
why does the silver legion have to be america's fascist party?

>>160032074
>Anything East to the Neiße river should be Polish.
>Free Czechoslovakia.
Slavs leave this board

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>>160029858
>>160032074
And if you want, break l'Hexagone (France - more like le Pentagone in this case, but w/e) into France (north) and Occitania (south), but give Brittany to Kalos France.

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>>160030168
>Romania anything more than a glorified puppet
Lad...

Also, rate muh balance of power in Europe.

>>160032256
Nope.
I don't even know if I count as Slav.

>>160031278

>It isn't complicated.
>For the player, the concept is quite simple: "some cultures are closer to yours than others." For the devs or modders, it's literally about changing numbers.
But it's a LOT of numbers. IIRC, MEIOU & Taxes has LITERALLY 100 culture groups. Grouping those cultures into umbrellas is NECESSARY, because calculating the distances for each of 200 * 200 = 40,000 culture pairs requires at least SOME streamlining before it's feasible for a developer.

>Select the Culture mapmode.
>Click on a province with Castilian culture.
>Hover the mouse over a province with Francien culture.
>"Cultural distance between Castilian and Francien is ###."
I don't think that's possible for a mod.

>Because it's flexible, believable and it can yield the desired outcome. Think on how you would solve the following using metagroups:
>1. Galicians should be easy to control if your primary culture is Castilian or Portuguese. However, Portuguese should be unruly to Castilian rulers and vice-versa.
>2. Savoyards should be allowed to form both France and Italy, but Milan cannot form France and Provence cannot form Italy.
>3. Maltese culture. Both Tunis and Italians blobbing into the area is believable, but metagroups wouldn't allow you to make them both Indoeuropean and Afro-Asiatic.
IIRC, MEIOU & Taxes has an interesting solution to one such edge case: A hidden BYOA event flips provinces and countries between "Burgundian" (in the Dutch group) and "Bourguignon" (in the Langue d'Oil group), depending on the situation.

I think we're talking past each other, to some extent. I'm discussing a mod, but you seem to be thinking of changes that would require editing the EU4 engine, which modders can't touch.

>>160031713
Very interesting--but, again, not coding-friendly or player-friendly in a mod.

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time to keep the run going

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>>160032074
>Ugly Germany. Anything East to the Neiße river should be Polish.
heh
>Free Czechoslovakia.
heh
>26+6=1 makes prettier borders than the current ones.
heh
>Remove Turds from the Balkans.
They're allied with UK and Germany, literally impossible.
>Annex Bulgaria, it would make your own borders prettier.
Don't have the infamy.
>As other Anon said: give Basques and Catalans to Spain.
Not changeownering.
>Otherwise, quite good. How does the New World look like?
Same as always, Canada, America, Mexico, South America. The only differences are Chile owns a bit of Patagonia and there's an Abo state in Northwest Canada.

>>160032318
Occitania doesn't exist in HPM.

>>160032332
Accepted cultures?

>>160032558
>hoi4

>>160026714
I blobbed to Warri, but then gave my colony to the UK to be able to take the decision for the Congo.

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Hey guys, is Fuze Cat grand strategy ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIzbd2eFDus

>>160028951
you mean 240,000. 24x10,000

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>>160032751
>Accepted cultures?
___________none_________

>>160033054
I am horrified

>>160028713
The worst part is that nobody knows where all that profit goes once the factory coffers are full.

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>>160033054
Isn't it time you gave that land back to it's RIGHTFUL owner?

>>160006986
Based and white

>>160033519
its*

sorry kiddo looks like you should delete your post and try again

HPM, I know you said you'd be busy this weekend, but I still have those suggestions to get to you and I'm usually pretty busy during the week. Are you here so I can post them?

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TAKBIR!

>>160033115
You should be, dirty kaffir.

>>160033519
"no"

Any decent modern day mod out for HoI4? I'm not looking for ultrarealism, just want to blob with somewhat modernish looking sprites and Head of State pictures rather than 19th century ones as in the Vicky II Modern Day Mod.

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do you guys have a good download for the game?
every torrent i find moves at half the speed of smell or i need to crack steam

can you guys help

>>160032531
Do you really think you'd need to mess with cultural distances for pairs like castilian-min or yamato-francien or tunisian-creek? They would just be left with the default, that would be the current "not in the same culture group".

The _only_ numbers that would see some changes are inside the same culture group (as castilian-catalan) or neighbouring culture groups (as catalan-gascon), and ONLY IF you want to mess with their behaviour. And if you just implement the system but don't bother with the numbers, the system works exactly the same as current vanilla.

Again: the default would be something like
>currently under different culture groups = ### (1.0 or 100 or whatever)
>currently under the same culture group = half the above
Or something like this.

>MEIOU & Taxes
Well. I was thinking in vanilla and its 332 cultures all this time.

>>160032531
>I think we're talking past each other, to some extent. I'm discussing a mod, but you seem to be thinking of changes that would require editing the EU4 engine, which modders can't touch.
Pretty much.
Regardless, this discussion has been interesting for me, even if not very fruitful...

Can the current engine even allow the metagroups you're talking about?

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>>160034281
realised i didn't specify i want ck2. sorry

>>160034281
Why is the average Windows user unable to get what he wants? Come on, I've found even the fucking Linux version of the game, do some googling by yourself.

www.skidrowreloaded.com/crusader-kings-ii-the-reapers-due-proper-skidrow/

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>join comitern
>axis takes moscow

>>160032751
there is literally nothing wrong with HOI4

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>theres no such thing as perfect borde..

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HPM, you should add an option for a fascist Israel to claim the promised land, it makes sense for a fascist Israel to reclaim what is promised to them in their holy books.

>>160033758
n-no.. Thanks, anon, I won't make this mistake again.
>>160033896
Can the Ottomans even make Israel?
>>160034881
>there is literally nothing wrong with HOI4
Enjoy your paid DLC and broken as fuck game, laddo.

>>160035232
>Enjoy your paid DLC
hah

after patches and multiple expansions, hoi3 is more broken than vanilla 4 brah

>>160034293
>Do you really think you'd need to mess with cultural distances for pairs like castilian-min or yamato-francien or tunisian-creek? They would just be left with the default, that would be the current "not in the same culture group".
>The _only_ numbers that would see some changes are inside the same culture group (as castilian-catalan) or neighbouring culture groups (as catalan-gascon), and ONLY IF you want to mess with their behaviour.
I really dislike special cases. Allowing exceptions to flout the established rules makes everything a whole lot more complicated.

>>160034424
>Can the current engine even allow the metagroups you're talking about?
With scripted triggers, I think it's feasible. E.g., for M&T's implied metagroups of French and Italian:
same_minor_metagroup = {
or = {
and = {
or = {
culture_group = langue_d_oil
culture_group = langue_d_oc
}
owner = {
or = {
culture_group = langue_d_oil
culture_group = langue_d_oc
}
}
}
and = {
or = {
culture_group = latin
culture_group = napolitan
}
owner = {
or = {
culture_group = latin
culture_group = napolitan
}
}
}
# Etc.
}
}
It's still somewhat cumbersome--but it's not nearly as ridiculous as defining everything pairwise.

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>>160035232
Jews deserve to be gassed.

So maybe I'm wrong but it seems like the general consensus here is that hoi4 is bad. I haven't had a chance to play it yet, why is it considered bad?

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>>160035578
>hoi3 is more broken than vanilla 4 brah
hmm..

>>160035638
True, but a fascist Israeliums should still be able to claim it for memes.

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Ukrainian AI single handedly created a coalition of the willing to rek Russia, subsidising all of them right now.

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>>160036101
Chechnya pussied out but Ukraine is meming HARD

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>>160036347
I don't know what happened, Ukraine demanded Don Host and the Cossack Hetemate released and instead the Cossack republic was released and Don Host stayed Soviet.

>>160036347
>Russio! You is ou gïving clay to Ukraïne!
Chochoł's wet dream.

>>160032921
Casse-toi.

Is Transcaucasia worth playing?

>>160036847
>getting butthurt over a video game
eastern europeans everyone

>>160036995
Not butthurt or Eastern European. Just mildly amused.

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>>160036664
Amazingly both the genocide and our transition to democracy happen on the same exact day. I suppose I can RP it as a Rwanda style change of government.

>>160035895
3 has too many things that trigger me that they fixed on 4

>manpower doesnt make sense due to point system, which makes all the non majors have limited manpower despite their real populations
>industry has no connection with population or land, making it possible to create a great industrial complex at himalayas
>decisions giving free manpower to majors
>training troops with factories, which again makes it frustrating to create an army as a nation without much IC but big population
>German AI breaking when Turkey joins Axis
>Japan taking china every time in a really short time and creating a border gore with no option to select where to take
>Japan simply walking over india since UK takes entire indian army away every game
>USA drops a few division on japan and end up annexing it every time as Japanese AI doesnt give a crap
>a shitfest with borders when war ends like Japan taking everything UK has that you couldnt touch when you menage to pull off sea lion as germany and many more stupid stuff if you ever dare to add a single war goal in a major war
>random rebellions from provinces with no life
>diplomacy pretty much non existent for single player
>doctorines doesnt have any speciality since they can all be researched at the same time by all the majors
>game still randomly crashes


While I love the equipment system of 4, I do prefer the supply system of 3. Wish paradox didnt get too lazy on fuel

Will a tributary Christian kingdom fight with me during a Muslim Invasion of a Christian nation?

>>160037164
HoI4 has too many literal memes for me to like it.
>lol trotsky just comes back for no reason because LA REVOLUTION!!!
>australia becomes EMPIRE OF THE PLATYPUS!!!!
>bhutan is a glorious THUNDADRAGON EMPIRE
>three ideologies because that is literally the minimum the game can still function in any meaningful sense with
>political power that can be spent on everythign from "justifying wargoals" to annexing austria to "dismissing ministers"
>paid DLC for stuff like blitzing that should be free
>the fact their retarded fans actually like this
Combine that with the fact you can only have a single member of government (No based Edward VIII/Mosley dream team) means it's shit.

Is liquor worth building?

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>>160037135
Britain declared war for no reason, but America's on our side so they'll probably get dismantled.

>>160037164
True. Hearts of Iron 4 had some good ideas, but the game is ruined due to to the fact that AI is brain dead, and plenty other issues. Its not even worth going through all of them.

so i'm on my first playthough of ck2 and i have a few questions

how do i adjust the resolution or make the text bigger? i have great eye sight but i have to scoot a foot away from my screen to read anything it's annoying as hell.

is economy and trade pretty much non existent? i can't believe there's no tab for economy and i have no idea if i'm making money off of trade or if i'm even trading

how do i change into a feudal system as a tribe? how do i get my title beyond a count so i can start getting research points? the intrigue thing says i need the title "absolute tribal leader" but it doesn't say how to get it.

i feel like this is just a family dynasty simulator with a tiny drop of grand strategy. i was expecting eu4 with families but i just got the sims with risk.

>>160037631
i really, really like this meme

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>>160037695
>give our people true democracy for the first time ever
>they immediately re-elect fascists

>>160037429
-they added a coup/civil war scenerio if you dont do the purge as Soviets and get consequences

-they fixed the meme names last time I checked

-three ideologies actually has much more gameplay than 3rd games 9 political parties had. The biggest thing I managed to get out of 3 was raising dissent as USA so I could switch to another party at election to join axis. They are mostly just fun to look at as a part of game

-using political points is better than using research points to increase threat of everyone around you to be able to declare war imho. But its pretty much personal opinion. and annexing austria is a NF that takes time and has prequests to complete unlike hoi3 where its
>"press x to annex austria when this date comes"
>"press x to start ww2"
>"press x to get shitload of free manpower to turn the war around and push back germany like soviets did historically"

-with you on blitzing. But its minor as hell, only there to save you from microing a blitz and let AI do it

>>160038398
>having FPTP
You deserve what you get Gyspy

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>>160038398
NO, they're killing Israel! How could this shoah happen?

>>160037429
I only play it for the multiplayer

>>160038704
Israel is 30% Ashkenazi? I thought the Ashkenazi were the european jews.

>>160038576
>raising dissent as USA so I could switch to another party at election to join axis
what? All that's ever done for me was switch to Republican (President MacArthur) which still drifts you to Allies. How do you get commies or fascists in charge?

>>160038698
I like how First Past the Post is promoted in real life as 'keeping radicals out of power' but it can easily be used by dictatorships to have an illusion of democracy while keeping the exact same elite in power.

>>160038959
I had to read a guide for it but when you cut the consumer goods, your people in general get really sassy and elect another side as a result. I dont exactly remember which party was it, but it allowed me to join axis before japan could declare war on me and automatically making me join allies

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Tell me anons, does Barron Trump /gsg/?

>>160039327
He's too young to fully grasp how amazing history is. Give him another 2-4 years and he'll be making ebin germanys

>>160039327
Remind that /vg/ is about video games, not about the son of some nignog tribal chief of a Mexican colony in Africa.

hit me with the CK2 dlc mega senpai

>>160039327

Unlikely, his father only lets him play with a 4D chessboard

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>>160038704
>all those countries declaring war on Israel
Heh

>>160039170
All this ever does for me is swap parties from Democratic (Roosevelt) to Republican (MacArthur), both of which are still blue "democracy" parties and therefore drift to Allies. I wonder if you were playing an earlier version or something.

I've also read that neutral USA becomes Comintern if Axis Japan starts a limited war against them, but I've never seen it happen.

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>>160010839
I prefer the alt history where the Dutch won out over the English and established the USA.

Mostly because I like the hilarity of imagining Dutch dominated world and everyone in the world learning Dutch and all the songs and movies being in Dutch.

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Game over, anything you memers need to see before I sign off for good?

>>160038846
Israel is white and based.

>>160040801
Pops, homeland borders
Am I correct in guessing your colonies are puppets?

>>160032447
>I don't even know if I count as Slav.

What are you, Bulgarian or Baltic?

>>160040801
Post liquor factories

/gsg/ needs its own board.

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>>160041153
>waits 6 minutes until just after I close the game before asking
great, lad, great
The colonies are puppets, but they all started declaring independence in the last two years because I'm democratic and they're fascist.

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>>160041565
>asks question on a relatively slow thread like /gsg/
>wonders when people take longer than one minute to respond

>tfw want to watch some HoI4 BICE gameplay on youtube
>every person recording it is American with shittily added German word in his name

I just know they secretly masturbate about their "Prussian ancestry" after they finish recording and that pisses me off too much to watch

>>160041565
sorry lad
Thanks for re-opening for me.

>>160041351
New Worlder, half Polish. But I don't think I count even as half-Slav, since I don't speak the language.

>>160041820
I just looked and on the first page I only see bundeswhr bob that fits the description

>>160041941
>since I don't speak the language
What kind of logic is that?

>>160042084
>What kind of logic is that?
Well, how would I belong to a linguistic group if I'm not a native speaker of that group?
(I share some other cultural stuff with Slavs, but it's mainly details. That's why I don't think I count as one.)

>inb4 I'm discussing with a /pol/tard who confuses races with cultures and thinks Slav is a race

>>160042407
>confusing language with culture
Didn't we have this conversation ~2 hours ago?

I have some questions about the Seven Years Mod.

How many coalitions did it take to beat Austria?
What was there greatest extent? I want to see the borders.
Who was the Napoleon Bonaparte of Austria?
Why is France so strong?

>>160042467
Regardless. Let's go back to the games, shall we?

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>>160042407
>>inb4 I'm discussing with a /pol/tard

>>160042407
>waah /pol/ pls go
Perhaps you should go to reddit, where you can be sure there are no "/pol/tard"s?

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>>160043021
>implying there are no /pol/tards on reddit
>implying /pol/tards don't try to spread their cancer even into another cancer
>implying /pol/ isn't /r/stormfront
>implying /pol/tards aren't from reddit

I´ve been resetting a brandenburg game for several hours now. Still getting silesia as a mission claim. Should I just give up and try to fight bohemia and silesia early?

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Is it possible to reform the Roman Empire in CK2+? I wanna try playing with CK2+, but I need my dosage of ebin romiums

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>Use Austria to win the war with Egypt without sending any of my own troops into the desert
>Hungarian independence war triggers later on
>Intervene on Hungary's behalf and destroy the Austrians who only had 30 units remaining after the attrition in Egypt
>Add Hungary to my sphere

What's the most /albion/ thing you've accomplished in a game?

Massive retard here, how does the DLC activator for CK II work? I have all but Conclave and Memer's Due, do I just download them and the thingy makes it's magic?

>>160034281
Look in the description.

#Where to get these games

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How is everyone's campaign going today? I'm playing as Fascist Turkey and pushing slowly into Africa.

Why the fuck is the German AI struggling against netherlands/belgium in the mainland?! They're keeping half their divisions on the soviet border despite there being no war, this is gross.

Also how are you supposed to defeat England if you can't land in England due to their fuckhuge navy!?!

>>160044096
i can safely instruct you that you are good to go.
you don't need either conclave or rape's due.

conclave just makes the game 20x times more restrictive and tedious than it already is.
rape's due adds a ridiculous amount of detail into diseases and injuries. of course in ck2 diseases/injuries aren't very common, so they also increase the chance of a disease/injury happening by 2000%. expect to get in 10 years what you normally wouldn't get in 500 years.