Spessmen on a spess station - /ss13g/

First for I hate this game

second for I also hate this game

Third for snow map when

>>159735027
Fourth for space station not snow station

>>159735182
Station on a snowy planet

>try to request any type of Pill from Chemist
>he denies you

useless bastards

>>159735315
medbay attracts the biggest autists, what did you expect

>>159735315
Chemists are ironically the worst chemists. I have yet to play with a Chemist that actually did his job properly or at all.

>>159735578
>be chemist
>people keep walking by and wanting shit
>tell them to fuck off because im experimenting and making grenades 4noraison
why cant you just understand that we're not here to help.

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REAL AMERICANS WHERE WE AT

SMASH THAT MF LIKE BUTTON

I BETTER NOT BE PLAYING WITH KILLARY SUPPORTERS

>>159733434
Deff doesn't have a singulo and people will never stop complaining about it

It's crazy how many engineers don't know how to set up another engine

>>159736646
Hillary voter here, fight me

>>159736808
whats your ckey you piece of shit

>>159736675
But senpai, deff does have a singulo.

>>159736818
DrCelt

>>159736832
I don't actually play this game anymore I just shitpost in the thread

If you're not talking about the one that's disassembled in storage than just fuck my defficiency up

>>159736853
but celt is a terrorist he doesnt get to vote

>>159736832

it has an unwired, unbuilt singulo with just the parts in storage in a fucking jumble cause duny didnt leave crates cause hes a worthless nigger

>CANT WELD FIELD EMITTERS TO THE CATWALk

RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>159736978
>but celt is a terrorist he doesnt get to vote
He's also not an american, genius

>>159737272
You're allowed to vote if you aren't American

It's the reason Democrats are so opposed to people having to show ID at the polls

>>159736646
>Be britbong
>Random stranger asks me who I would vote for if I was fat
Fuck off with this shit

is the server fucked?

>he unironically uses the singularity

We've decided to make mining a part of Science, rather than removing the asteroid and its materials. Should be merged within a week or two.

>>159736832
>Expecting engineers to put forth any effort to build their engine.
Its the reason why singulo the second most built engine, it requires no skill of effort to make and as you can see with deff as soon as you have to do anything remotely close to effort they can't pull their shit together.
SME is a much better engine and all stations have it pretty much 80% done for you. But I never see a variety of engineers use it.
CEs are the worst offenders as they never teach other engineers now to build anything else let alone know how to set up another engine. If you only show engies to make singulo they only build singulo and the cycle repeats.
I've never seen a CE, in my time observing, offer to a new engineer how to build an engine. Just a fuck off I'm going to autism this done and tell you the short after I finish.

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>>159735315
Grab a grenade and head to the bar.
Electrolyze sale, electrolyze hooch, add water.
Store in autoinjectors, give one to the barkeep as a tip.

The rout the chemists and reclaim the Promised Land.

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>Having a great time
>lets go home
>everybody says yes

Space the PA. Engine war now!

>>159736675
Literally all you need to get to set up the Deff singulo is Maint. access.

>>159738150
>actually spaced the PA once as CE
>Engineer sperged out and called Security
>Stalked me like a shit
>Arrested just after having finished SME
>8 Minutes for Grand Sabotage
>Demoted to Assistant
>The Singulo Engineer is the new CE

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>>159738337
>Engineer spaces the PA "just in case" it's vox ops

B a n H e
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H
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>>159738337
I used to disassemble it and keep one of the parts myself, spacing it is probably going too far

It helps if you give a speech to your engineers while doing it, so they don't think you're crazy and/or griefing

>>159738337
That's fucking retarded. If I was the HoS I'd fuck that engineer's day up. Wouldve ahelped this shit too.

Is there a way to order to order more department headsets (eg Supply) or convert a normal one into a supply headset if you run out?

>>159738898
Probly could just ask centcom for it anon.

>>159738898
>Is there a way to order to order more department headsets (eg Supply)
No.
>or convert a normal one into a supply headset
Yes.
>if you run out?
No.

>>159738337
>Not putting the pa part in the sme chamber/teg burn room to force engineers to look at a superior engine running and producing infinite times more power than singulo ever could.

>>159739141

>or convert a normal one into a supply headset
>Yes.

is this just an autistic way of saying put up a new one? or do you have a solution

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>>159739413
>is this just a way of saying put up a new one?
? ? ? ?
? ? ?
? ?
?

>>159737980
If they would ask, I would be glad to show them.
But it's hard to see whether an engi is inexperienced or just lazy.

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>>159735315
>>159735578
I play a ton of MD and I don't understand this meme. I've had a ton of obviously new chemists that didn't really accomplish shit (though not for lack of trying), a few chemists making dude mindbreaker lmao xd, and a fair share of good chemists too. I'd compare the shittery level to Cargo, but it's far from the worst and it's definitely overblown in the thread. To say you've never had a good chemist is to either lie or to admit you have only played MD twice.
I've never had a chemist freak out or try to chloral me because I started using a chemdispenser, either.

>>159738337
>>159738720
>>159738746
>>159739213
Eat shit, powergamers.

Idea to decrease win rate for rev.
Add a in an immovable safe to CE, RD, CMO, HOP offices. The safe contain a .45 pistol with a spare lethal magazine and a basic set of armor. Safes can only be opened remotely from communications console and only when red alert has been declared.

Y/N?

>>159740898
>only when red alert has been declared.
This never happens

>>159741042
It'll require some coordination at least and will happen more often if there is this benefit.

>>159738746
>nigger spaces the PA as non-antag
That's fucking retarded. Wouldve ahelped this shit too.

>>159740898
>basic armor
>ballistic memes

Not even worth the tile space it's taking up to be honest

>>159736646
>LPF
wait, the US has more than two parties?

>>159740898
Sounds fair to me, with code red being a need for it that means two heads must be in an office and not forting in sec. If two heads can't organize to go red, the game was over from the start if they don't know how to use :c.

>>159741134
Probably would be a wall safe or something. Would egun be a better option?

>>159740898
Sounds like another thing for admins to bait 'power gamers' with and so everyone will be afraid to open and use them and have less reasons to call code red

>>159741205
Fuck off surfer

>>159736646
>American """voting"""

>>159741916
>Surfer
No and I'm glad the jew stopped playing head roles and almost all together.

>>159739992
>Hating shit game design is powergaming
>Getting rid of a nonessential piece of machinery in your department that can be easily replaced is powergaming
Fuck off faggot

>>159739413
No, but seriously.
What did you mean by that?

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>>159739992
If by powergame you mean power from my engines, I take that title willingly.

>>159739940
I play MD very often and most of the time there isn't a chemist and the other times they are highly incompetent.
Apparently I just have very shit luck.

>>159741149
yes

but no one votes out of democrat or republican these days

not more than a few meme votes anyway

Can you use an emag on the identification computers ?

>>159742950
sure
does it do anything, no

>>159742839
Honestly I feel like this would have been the perfect oportunity for third parties to rise.
Trump seems terrible and so does Hillary

>preparing a shitload of chems at roundstart as a chemist for all types of possible injuries
Totally fine
>ordering extra crates to be prepared for station needs
Great engineering work
>Doing research to prepare for the station needing tools from the protolathe
Absolutely fine
>Gearing up with security gear at round start when you already have handcuffs
Acceptable
>setting up cryo with the most autistic mix imaginable
Fine
>Getting rid of an engine that is both inefficient and is the most dangerous and can be activated and accessed by someone breaking a window from space or hacking two doors
FUCKING METAGAMING SCUM
>securing the mix to be sure it doesnt accidently get flooded into the air distro
METAGAMING SCUM ADMINHELP ADMINHELP

>>159743058
*great cargo work

>>159743058
The singulo can be a traitor objective. Spacing it is therefore not allowed.
How the fuck would someone accidentally flood the distro? That literally doesn't happen. You are grasping at straws faggot.

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>>159743058
>Shit in line with the job where people just do their fucking job
>Shit where people specifically do something to prepare for something completely fucking unknown that has no other purpose for their job

Ordering shit early and preparing vaccines for known injuries and viruses to humans is fucking fine

Preparing for shit the crew knows fuckall about like ops or specific traitor objectives, no, fuck you

>>159743058
Doing your job
Doing your job
Doing your job
Doing your job
Not doing your job (you should secure it/make it redundant)
Not doing your job

>>159743057
The problem is third parties are bumbling idiots and crazy people who don't expect to actually get anywhere, and so don't try

>>159742507
She's a jew?

>>159743402
So order the parts from cargo or make a pr to remove the objectives. I never space the PA but I secure a piece in storage.

>>159743480
Improving atmos and making sure it works as efficiently as possible with as little potential for station destruction as possible is absolutely an atmos tech's job
Come to think of it, what the fuck is the explanation for why plasma is in the atmospherics system ready to be flooded into the station at a moment's notice to begin with

>>159743470
Yeah let me just leave a black hole that can tear apart the station and takes ten seconds to be released if it wasnt turned on.

You can still sabotage the SME or AME. Why is this such a big deal? Its not even done to prevent traitors its done to prevent chucklefuck engies from setting the shit up when there is already plenty of power.

>>159743550
>Remove the objective
Or how about you stop spacing the PA every time and control your lethal autism?
Just hide a piece of it somewhere if you really don't want it to function.

>>159743707
A destroyed SME is also a shuttle-caller. Should we remove that one as well?
Nobody wants to work in a fully-emp'd station so everyone just agrees to call the shuttle.

>>159743673
You mean why it is on station or why specifically in atmospherics?
Atmos techs are the most qualified to handle plasma so it's normal they have it rather than leave some giant plasma miner to some fucks in R&D or something.

>>159740898
Make it a non-electric safe.
Publicly announce the passwords on code red.

Stop arguing like retards and let's get down to the meat of the issue here
The singulo is retarded, getting rid of it was the one change goon did right
We should improve the other engines that are more fun to set up and maintain and less destructive when sabotaged

>>159743740
I do hide it. I dont personally space it.
>>159743816
I'd be far less salty about a sabotaged SME given that it's the actual engine being used.

>>159743895
Other engines are not more fun to set up, you're just less used to them.

>>159743818
I mean why is it specifically hooked up to the station's atmos system, a few button presses away from being mixed into the breathable air supply
Or at least, that's how it was last I remember, I haven't fucked with atmos in a long time

>>159743707
Powersource. Unsafe but still a power source in line with the job that's absolutely fine unless a tator specifically goes for it
go fuck yourself

>>159744108
It's hooked to the gas mix lines, because it's atmos job to provide certain mixes if needed.
The real question is why is there a pump from mix to distro.

>>159744045
>Singulo
>Wrench some shit down
>Turn on the field
>Turn on the PA
>Sit around babysitting it for the rest of the round or the entire station is destroyed
How are other engines not more fun
Even if you're so used to it that it's boring, fighting off some plasma fires or something is way more exciting than being gibbed by singuloose

>>159744396
>push a box in
>wrench injectors
WOW SO FUCKING FUN YOU GUYS
SME is only fun to you because you don't fully understand pipes yet.

>>159744276
>that's absolutely fine
It's not absolutely fine
Do you not understand why people don't like it

>>159744671
>people
mate, you're the only one arguing against this shit, there are more people disagreeing with you here

>>159744671
Because they're not snob so they perceive not using the singulo and setting up an awfully retarded SME setup as some form of "graduation"

>>159744567
Do you have to check on it every minute to make sure nobody fed it after midnight
Does the TEG have that same problem
What about solars, those power the station just fine and are at least comfy to set up

>>159744776
*because they're snobs

>>159744784
Can you talk without moving goalposts?
Setting up solars is the least fun fucking thing imaginable.

>>159743057
>the perfect oportunity for third parties to rise
Nah, that was 1992. Ross Perot got 20% of the popular vote.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_sucking_sound

>Trump seems terrible and so does Hillary
One of them is terrible, the other is merely bad.

How much chloral do you put in a smoke for an OD kill?

>>159744980
>mobile poster
back to >>>/pol/ with you, fag

>>159743503
That was shitposting hot topic about a week or two ago. >She hasn't denied it yet either iirc.

>>159745017
15u is kill, I think.

>>159744885
>Setting up solars is the least fun fucking thing imaginable.
You go out and do them once on a nice spacewalk, and then they're fine forever and you can go fuck off and make a dumb 5x5 bar in the middle of space or whatever
Seems more fun to me

>>159744885
>setting up the engines at all
>fun

theyre all shit, the only fun thing is getting the biggest numbers out of them. The process getting there is usually boring as fuck outside of the most autistic engineers and mommis

wow i have my plasma at 4 kelvins but it only further advanced my carpal tunnel and took an hour but now i can get 50 niggerwatts from a slightly radioactive sandwich

man there's nothing fun in engineering. no thanks for having the power on, no gratitude for fixing the air problems and the giant gaping holes incidents leave

fuck the engines, engineering is bland as shit

>no complex high power to transformer to low power in maint and behind departments
>no actual air filtration system that needs filters to be replaced or else people are coughing/sneezing/wheezing/the floors are covered in soot/diseases spread like plasmafire
>no actual maintenence on the station needed

baka

>>159745017
The whole blunt needs to be choral.

>Long answer:
At/above 30 it deals 1 tox per 2sec/0.2u
At/above 81 it also deals (amount - 50 tox)

Without going above 81u, you need to metabolize 20u to take 100 damage.

And that needs to be 20u while *above* 30u. So, 50u. Which is the most blunts hold.
Bearing in mind that you get one hit *at* 30u, you can make it work with 49.8u

>>159745613
When (you) code it

>>159745086
>REEEE /pol/ /pol/ /pol/
of all the days to bitch and moan, this day is not it, as this is election day, the day of all days

>>159745613
>no actual maintenence on the station needed
Janitors get to replace lights and vending machine stuff

Engineering would probably be pretty fun if the coders were actually good at stealing shit from goon and we didn't end up with half-assed replicas like the current mechanic systems and pods

>>159735578
Whenever I play chemist, an MD barges in and does my job for me, even if I've already expressed that the pills are done and the cryo mix is almost ready

It's like more than 90% of the people here don't speak english, there's no fuckin winning

>>159746231
It's not your fault.
Most MDs assume that chemists aren't going to do that, even if you're competent. They should listen to when you speak, but it's not completely their fault, either.

What's the most fun traitor weapon?

>>159746231
medical comms would be easier if it was another color honestly
plenty of people just filter out the common channel and medical looks too much like it

>>159746701
Normal ass shit you find on the station
Or goon's emperor palpatine engineering gloves that we stole awhile back if we still have those

>>159746894
we do

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>>159746231
same desu
>make all chemicals
>MD barges in and makes all the chemicals again
>IN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DOSAGES
>mfw Alkysine (4 units) pill and Alkysine (5 units) pill

>>159747059
>alkysine (5.31728376718548172 units) pill

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Non-coder ideaguy here: add shortcut or macro to toggle what bodypart you're aiming at, so each body part gets a number, feet being 1 or 0 and 10 being head. So you'd have a key to toggle up (feet -> legs -> torso, and so on) and a key toggling down. Though I'd prefer it if eyes and mouth was toggled to after Head

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>>159747059
>dex+ (2.5 units)

>>159747059
>27 pills Ryetalyn (10 units)
>10 pills Bicaridine (9 units)
>4 pills Cryoxadone (12.5 units)
>1 pill Dexalin Plus (90 units)
>4 Plasma bottles
>6 unnamed pill bottles

>>159747059
>fun pill pill

>>159747059
>"4 pill"

>>159747279
Numpad works for that actually, IIRC

>>159747637
I only see cycle intents and swap hands, for any body related stuff and that's it

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>>159747059
>Skeleton Steve/(Steve Skelton) has made 5 pills, each named 'Revive' and containing 1u of dexalinp and 12u of tricordrazine
>Nuklearcellphoneg/(Big Boss) has made 10 pills, each named 'Emergency Treatment Nontoxic' and containing 1.5u of kelotane, 1.5u of dermaline, 3u of bicaridine, 3u of tricordrazine and 1u of dexalinp
>Sara Velme (killette2) has made 2 pills, each named 'ironsugar' and containing 25u of iron and 25u of sugar
>ScottDP/(Graeme Carr) has made 2 pills, each named 'Everything except Water' and containing 2.5u of tungsten, 2.5u of sulfur, 7.5u of space_drugs, 2.5u of sodium, 5u of hyronalin, 5u of anti_toxin, 5u of fluorosurfactant, 1.5u of sacid, 2.5u of phosphorus, 7.5u of thermite, 2.5u of methylin, 0.5u of fluorine, 2.5u of copper and 0.5u of carbon

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>>159748042
>Everything but water

>>159743057
Trump is amazing, kill yourself.
>>159746701
Explosive implant, if you get caught by sec.

Trigger word: smugloli

>//quick fix for stunglove overlay not working nicely with boxing gloves.
So when is this getting fixed properly?

>>159743057
DUDE
ALEPPO
LMAO

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Any R-UST success stories? I spent a whole round doing this, and it doesn't seem that useful

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>>159734369
>Latest version of VG is bugged
>Antags not getting any objectives.
>No map voting


Was it Celt or Cluster?

>>159748981
>that much temperature only makes that much power
BUFF
TEG

>MoMMi autism goes so far it gives pressure to space and heats space up to over a million celsius

>>159747335
>Plasma (5u) pill

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>set up to different burn chambers, thermal plates if I want to cook gasses, a gas mixer for a burn mix, and a giant cooler for my burn mix
>set up grilles then place rglass on them so my gasses stay in the burn chambers and the pressure doesn't break the glass
>get delayed because some idiot MOMMI managed to not only raise the temperature in the R-UST room to stupid degrees centigrade, but it did it to the space tiles outside too
>finally go to turn on the gas flow
>go check on my burn chambers and find plasma everywhere
>set it on fire outside the burn chambers then watch the fire to see where it starts getting into the burn chambers, maybe I can find the leak
>the fire doesn't get into the burn chambers until the pressure and heat gets high enough to shatter the glass
>left with no idea where the heck the leak was

>>159749151
I saw an atmos do 1.9 GW with just the heater. Like, the thing that looks like the freezer connected to cryo, but for heating

What's the most robust greytider equipment setup that doesn't involve sticking out like a sore thumb? (assistant with hardsuit from other departments, etc)

>>159749185
>kills the spider queen 2 whole rooms away through sheer thermal radiation

>>159749138
>VG
>not true
>not true
try harder

>>159749185
DrCelt is crying somewhere

>>159748653
wyci

>>159749381
toolbox
disarm
aim for groin

>>159749367
Really? Man I should really look up the TEG code.

>>159749485
What does aiming for the groin do? Most people I see aim for the head.

>>159748981
>101 MW
Holy shit how?

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>>159749306

>>159749534
It was only for a second though, probably from all the accumulated pressure in the heater's pipe

>>159749591
better chances to push someone on the ground
when they are on the ground aim for the head with the toolbox and you might knock him out

>>159749591

Higher knock down chance.

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>>159736646
>legitimizing the system
good boyim

>>159749185
>flying back and forth in space like a carp because ZAS reaches out even to the stars

>>159749185
Did people die because they wanted to have a space adventure and then burn up?

>>159750054

I think 2 died.

>>159750054
the heat luckily did not reach out that far, but almost all of engineering was unusable already and if the round would go longer i am sure he could have made it worse

>>159750140
Yeah I got fucked pretty fierce by the radiation, and made it to Medical just as I collapsed.

>>159744291
The problem is that that one pump is the only outlet for mix.

>>159750054
I nearly died twice.

>>159749216
I would much, much rather people put plasma in pills instead of bottles. Bottles clog up the place and are useless in that circumstance if you're just planning to put the 5u plasma into a beaker to make dex+ or cryox. Since, y'know, pills can go into beakers just as easy and leave no empty bottle.

>>159749151
Something fucky happened to the gases.
They're weird mixes, or something.

>>159751024
I think differently, but I see why you're thinking that.

>>159751024
also you can't spill a pill

>>159752363
P u t L i d s O n B o t t l e s

>>159751024
I don't quite agree but I see your point.

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>weighted voting

tell me the statics of people who support hillary so I can griff them

>>159752573
[your waifu's ckey]

>>159752573
cl*sterfack

>>159752573
Me

>Make a safe little area where I can rummage through garbage
>Even weld off the vents and scrubbers, I'm not using em I've got internals
>Just as I get the wood flooring down, the clown flies through the cargo window as the station becomes plasma and fire
>Aw shit, better call this out, as I weld the door shut and back away
>Comms are down, so I get a walkie talkie from the autolathe and chat to survivors
>Suddenly, a mechanic appears from disposals
>"Heya!" I say
>Talks to himself "I'm burning up"
>He smashes a few of the windows till he finds the open windoor
>Then gets to the door, UNWELDS IT, THEN HACKS IT OPEN
>WHILE I'M SHOUTING NO
>THIS KILLS US BOTH
>He apparently didn't see me saying anything, so assumed he was alone, and thought it a good idea to break down some doors

People really need to read the chat more.

>>159752842
Nevermind the chat, why would you break down a god damn window in a plasma fire? The plasma would leak in before you could close it.

>>159752842
Jesus, and I thought people who crowbared through firelocks without closing them were retarded

>>159752842
Should've stopped him, fampai

>>159742556
>deliberately making a known objective unwinnable just because you can

That's not powergaming, it's metagaming. But either way it makes you a fag because that super-optimized TEG produces far more power than anyone could possibly use, in effect making it all completely pointless.

>>159752842 ¿ B u t D i d Y o u R e m e m b e r T o S u b m i t T h e B a n R e q u e s t ?

>>159753509
>Produces more power than anyone could possibly use
>Doesn't destroy the station and force a shuttle call if you so much as blink a little too often while standing your eternal vigil

>>159753790
I forgot to add the last half of that post, but that makes the sing pointless, not the TEG

t. non-antag Atmosian

>>159753630
I ahelped it, zealotron picked it up and said 'Should I activate it'

I said yes, so he tossed a goat at the station

>>159753790
>implying that it's not your fault you can't turn the PA to zero when the singularity turns pink
>implying that the "turn on and forget" engines aren't even MORE boring because they have so little risk

I can't help it if you missed exactly one trivial step and blamed everyone but yourself for it.

>>159753887
>implying having more power than necessary doesn't make the more autistic engine that takes longer to set up anything but a waste of time

>>159753887
How can you be an engineer when you're this much of a chickenshit coward? Your whole job is built on the assumption that something will go wrong, if you're that afraid of taking risks you may as well stick to the fucking PACMAN.

>>159754162
>implying that the "turn on and forget" engines aren't even MORE boring because they have so little risk
Being able to fuck off and do what you want isn't boring
Having to be a glorified rent-a-cop sitting around doing nothing all night watching for asshole teenagers that may or may not show up is incredibly boring, and the "risk" is the single most disastrous thing that can happen to a station outside of nar-fucking sie, and it can happen five minutes into any given goddamn round
The entire engineering department is fucked, even science at most is usually only in danger of blowing themselves up, and they get fun and interesting stuff to do in return

>>159754036
>http://game.ss13.moe/logs/2016/11-November/08-Tuesday%20admin%20only.log
Are you DragonBro? Ain't nobody ahelped that.

Also wasn't a ban request, though you aught to know how to make those.

>>159754510
When I set up the singularity, I turn it to 0 when it's at a good size, and nine times out of ten I never need to even look at it again.

If you have to ogle it constantly for fear it'll loose when there's no reason to assume a traitor is targeting it, you've fucked up horribly and shouldn't be an engineer to start with. Besides, those same asshole teenagers can fuck over the station just fine with all the other engines, even if you're too much of a wuss to admit it.

Plus, if it happens that soon in a round either the antag in question is capable of acting at lightspeed or it was set up wrong in the first place.

>acting if all the risks in engineering are inherently bad

If you want to autism with pipes all day, just set up a test server for yourself and stop bitching because people are able to take risks you're too cowardly to make.

>>159754510
>complaining that engineering is shafted
>but also complain that there's no reason to use most of the engines

Dude, you should be asking for more engine types, not less.

>>159754835 I wish to fuck up the station using solars. Give me your secrets.

how to mostly defuse the singulo in a completely circumstantial way
>set up the containment field
>turn on the PA
>turn it off when the singulo forms
>claim you turned it off once you had another engine because you didn't need the singulo anymore
>most people won't bother to turn off the containment field and get another beacon from secure engineering storage

>>159754835
How do you fuck up the station with the AME?
How do you fuck up the station with a TEG in ways you can't already do roundstart?

>>159755192
Underrated.

>>159755340
>AME
Delamination.

>TEG
Atmos sabotage that simultaneously cuts power.

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>>159755159
set the solar SMESes to max and watch as everyone wastes forty five minutes trying to figure out what's wrong before calling the shuttle
po' man's power sink

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>>159755509
>>AME
>Delamination.

>>159755192
>demoted to assistant
No fucking real engineer would turn of an engine because "you don't need it anymore".
You don't need any engine you chucklefuck, why don't you just wire the solars then if you're running "just" on what you need?
A real engineer will squeeze every watt of power the station can provide for no reason other than compensating for their small genitalia.

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>>159738337
>>159738583
>shard singulo generators roundstart as mommi
>watch as carbons try to turn the singulo on after finishing the 9 shards supermatta

>>159755340
>How do you fuck up the station with the AME?
Set injection to something stupid high, like 40. You now have a large hole in the station where it used to be.

>How do you fuck up the station with a TEG in ways you can't already do roundstart?
As>>159755509, but also things like opening the burn chamber into engineering to create a massive flow of white hot plasma.

Only reason these don't happen more is because antags are too lazy to try them.

>>159755129
Coders are already perpetually distracted incompetents half the time, spreading out work over multiple power sources just leaves us with a bunch of half assed options
Like how tg added their new totally-not-singulo which is just the singulo with added electric shocks that can fuck you over

>>159755509
>Atmos sabotage that simultaneously cuts power.
yeah the station is gonna feel that power shortage 25 minutes from now when the shuttle is already docking at centcomm
>>159755658
yes you do need an engine dipshit
no you can't power the station on JUST roundstart solars (you haven't been able to for a while) and it's easier to set up another engine than improve/expand them

>>159755340
The AME can be rigged to explode.

>>159755678
>breaking your laws

Trashing the engines doesn't fit in the KEEPER lawset, shithead.

>>159755749
Because removing content just because it might distract you from all the nothing you'd be doing otherwise is such a problem, right?

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>>159755773
>no you can't power the station on JUST roundstart solars
but that's bullshit

>>159755726
>>159755839
you now have a medium-sized hole in bumfuck nowhere that causes 0 powernet or pipenet damage and killed nobody and has been of absolutely no consequence to anybody at all, unless there was a SME set up at which point there is not going to be an AME
hardly fucking up the station

>>159755726
>You now have a large hole in the station where it used to be.
A large centralized hole that doesn't get any bigger is way better than multiple departments being sucked away and the entire station potentially being bisected just within a few minutes
The station is built to handle breaches, and even a lack of an engineering department
It is not built to handle being continuously eaten by a magic space anus that deletes anything it passes over and only gets bigger over time

>>159755924
Keep moving those goalposts.

>>159755905
do it and screenshot for proof
you used to be able to, you can't anymore for some reason, solars just don't give enough power now

>>159755897
>Because removing content just because it might distract you from all the nothing you'd be doing otherwise is such a problem, right?
The point is to have good content instead
The goons did it years ago, and they're functionally retarded
The rest of us have no excuse

>>159756028
Bags of holding, your argument is invalid. Besides, half the time singuloth just fucks off into space but everybody's too lazy to rebuild.

If you can't do that, you deserve a Singuloth.

>>159755924
>you now have a medium-sized hole in bumfuck nowhere that causes 0 powernet or pipenet damage
It'll cause powernet damage, and you'll need to rebuild a new engine.

>>159756178
>Bags of holding, your argument is invalid.
you are so fucking stupid i am going to stop replying to you

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>>159755897
>removing ancient engine to use it's collectors and emitters before anyone ever finish gearing up
>not improving the station
>"b-but you're involving yourself with not yet existent matters!"

>>159756058
Just wire the solars directly to the powergrid and forget about the SMES

>>159756161
Besides the fact that everyone here would rather have references to dank memes and pigmen than good content?

>>159756178
>Bags of holding, your argument is invalid
Holy shit anon

>>159756028
>A large centralized hole that doesn't get any bigger is way better than multiple departments being sucked away
Both of which are far worse than nothing happening. Use TEG or Solars.

>>159756315
>removing perfectly workable engine because of your own pigheaded biases
>"improving the station"

You build shit, not break it.

>>159756354
We should've used Goon's TEG, they actually make you suffer if you fuck up making it by flooding everything with burning plasma.

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https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12431

Make sure to emoji-vote if you want this, I'm closing it otherwise.

>>159756326
Goon has those too
Their shit memes are even directly disruptive to the gameplay as well as the theme

>>159756468
You can't do a thing if there is someone working on it, but as long you can build a SME and nobody is using it there is literally no problem with removing dangerous engines to use safer and better engines.

It's like you're saying you can't break default lights to replace them for better ones.

>>159756468
>We should've used Goon's TEG, they actually make you suffer if you fuck up making it by flooding everything with burning plasma.
Now this we can agree on, that thing is fucking amazing
And the plasma flood isn't an immediate danger to the entire station unless all the doors are open and the power's already out
Not to mention that goon's plasma fires aren't as dangerous on a personal level, so you can run around dodging bursts of flame from the thing for a good long while trying to fix the problem before it kills you
I really should play engi there more one of these days, I still don't know what causes it to go demonic

>>159756839
>removing dangerous engines not in use
>when nobody is using them, thus not making them dangerous

Let's not touch on the fact that you can remove the lights without breaking them first, or that the only difference between normal and hi-efficiency is that one draws marginally less power.

That's a good metaphor for all of this really, since the benefits one offers over the other are so negligible as to make it pointless unless you're a turbo-autist.

>>159679959
>>159681367
Please see this new example of PJB sperging out hard over the most arbitrary and useless shit.
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12506

>>159757084
It's called code review, you shitter

>>159757303
At least a third of those are nitpicks over fucking nothing.

>>159757389
Those nitpicks are how we maintain coding standards in our codebase. Trailing returns, for example, are looked down upon due to being literally useless, so we want them removed before the PR is merged.

>>159757084
>https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12506
how the fuck is this sperging? he's just genuinely helping and cleaning up a code.

>>159757606
Parentheses are not a standard
The SECONDS define is not a standard (in fact the vast majority of spawns do not use it)
He's nitpicking over a fucking stray else
Trailing return is a stupid standard

>>159752842
Should have ahelped honestly

>>159754162
>that takes longer to set up
That's not true. You need about the same time for both if you're doing a basic setup

>>159757606
>>159757784
You also gotta love the "hey, you know how every single NPC bot uses a HTML interface? well I want you to port THIS one to laggyUI (!!!) but not any of the other NPC bots so that we have two competing standards, make sure you don't use too many or too little spaces or I'll pepper you with comments about that too"

DragonBro has decided to quit as an admin and go play/code on TG.

Jump ship with him if you agree with his decision, thanks.

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>>159757606
>my flavor of literally useless is superior to your flavor of literally useless

>>159758265
wait for real? i really liked dragonbro. this sucks.

>>159758323
Do you believe everything you read?

>>159758265
Does tg have more players?

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>>159758323
>>159758429
>>159758462

>>159758429
no thats why i asked

>>159756482 I see no reason not to merge it.
It's extra content that doesn't effect roundstart.

>>159758553
>green admin name

He said this in the ivory tower (/vg/ coderbus controlled discord) the madman

>>159758775
He's upset that he wasn't made a headmin who could boss around coders.

>>159757084
>steals 55u blood of your blood
>pays you an 18u blood cookie

>>159757084
this is really fucking good though

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if I'm to be mad at something, it's the fact he didn't even come explain himself here
I'm not mad desu

>>159760119
>Come explaining himself here
>In the thread

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>>159760628
That's why I said I'm not mad
Now however
>daily routine:
>check github
>check thread
>check discord
>see unsolicited drama and reasonable explanation
>decide I'll sorta try to solve the drama before it grows from lack of communication
>greeted with this
Fuck you too PJB

>>159758579
Say so in the PR, then, where it actually matters.

>>159760983
Are you suggesting the thread hasn't been filled with shitposters at any given time?

>>159761119
I'm rather kinda annoyed that the one trying to ease things up a bit just gets shot down as "one of the shitposters"
but let's leave it at it

Is playing the detective a good intro to playing security? i feel like moving into playing security or play Doctor for a bit

>>159757084
this is not pleasant for anyone, but it's kind of necessary in an open source project with many collaborators unless you want the code to end up looking like goon's

it probably took longer for PJB to type out the comments than it will take kurfurst to address them, they're mostly trivial 1 minute fixes. I doubt he's upset over it and you shouldn't be either

joy masks make you valid when

Flamenco Flamingo did nothing wrong

>>159761708
Detective is a pretty different job. Normal sec does the brute work, while detective finds out whodunnit. I only do normal security stuff if I'm the only sec.

>>159761708
officer -> det/warden -> hoss

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>that HoS
>those lings
>that AI
>those borgs

Everything about that shift was just so terrible.

>>159761767

The tone he uses makes he look like a cunt or a teacher correcting a child's homework. I can sense the autism through the words

>>159762141
>>159762174

Fuck it ill just do Sec officer one round and try not to be shitcurity

>Tailgate into sec
>HoS shoots me with lethals without hesitation
Wew

>>159762103
there were too many shitters that round but the biggest ones that I know of were bill and dragan

>>159762141
>Normal sec does the brute work, while detective finds out whodunnit
Only in theory
In practice, detective takes part in the team deathmatch while looking marginally cooler, with the ability to fuck off without much consequence depending on the size of the security staff

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>>159762283
>HoS straight up murders 5 people in the brig

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>>159762283
>Trespassing in brig
>Expect not to be shot in the face with lethals

I don't know what you expected

>>159762283

Gotta get them valids

>>159762405
Sec to not be shitters, would probably be my first guess
Non-lethals exist for a reason, and they're even more effective

>>159761072
>making a github account
Naaaaaaah. Github a shit.

>>159762802
>sec to not be shitters
>trespassing in brig
>not shitter behaviour

What are you trying to prove, that ones' shitter behaviour triumphs over the other? In the end it seems like you escalated the situation so it's entirely your fault, boy.

>>159762802
>shitter complaining about being shit on

>>159761708
Best way to learn sec is to join as an officer, and stick with another officer. Detective is a different role altogether.

>>159762802
>all of those shitters mobbing up to break into the brig and beat anyone who they even slightly suspected of being a ling
got what they deserve

>>159762964
>>159763051
>Implying I'm that guy
Keep trying to explain your shittery
Trespassing under mildly annoying circumstances is not proper escalation to murder, ever

>>159762240
yeah, I know perfectly what you mean about the tone. coders as a general rule are at least a tiny bit autistic

repeating the same things many times also makes you care less how you come across, it takes conscious effort to change this

don't confuse being robotlike with pedantry, at least in this case

>>159762959
This mentality is why coders get to merge stuff without any player input.

>>159763216
HoS here, maybe you haven't noticed, but I was a late join and there were like 5 shitters prior to that breaking into the brig, killing a sec officer and trying to push me over and doing the same, and as you suspect the armory had all of it's eguns cleared out with only shotguns left, so obviously the only situation left is to take the shotty and try your chances, it's not a matter of sublety anymore, it's a matter of life and death. I'm not gonna waste my time dealth with a shitter with the intent of fucking over my capture just because of their inherent need to fuck over my job because they're no good assistants. Yeah I let a bullet in that one shitters head, because I told him to stay away and he didn't listen, and in that moment of loss of focus I got robusted by the person I captured and killed. I'm not complaining about my death, just that that could have been prevented without shitters getting in the way.

>>159763764
Then get the repo moved to gitlab.
Or have Pomf host it.

>>159762031 There's almost always enough escalation to ice them.

>>159762103
Tryingtobanevadeplzignore did nothing wrong

>>159734369
Is it against the rules to stun security guards, and steal something from them as a non antag?

As long as you don't remove people from the round, pretty much everything is ok? Right??!?!??!

>>159765085
No, and no.

>If you aren't an antag, you don't pick fights without an IC reason.
"I don't want to wait through a search" is a fine reason to pick a fight.
But "I want his nice boots" is not.

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>>159765285
>Being inpatient is IC
>Being greedy is not IC

Wew lad.

>>159761767
Very important distinction:
SOME of it is necessary
The rest, like you said, is not pleasant for anyone and a waste of time

>>159765481
Wanting their shit is a fine reason to break into secure rooms (armory, etc.).
It's also of fine reason to nick things if you come upon them while their injured.
But it is not, by itself, a reason to injure them.

>>159765743
>like you said
Where?

>>159765743
whether it's necessary or not depends on the code quality standard PJB is aiming for

but that's where it gets subjective so I'm not going to argue you

>>159734369

[01:17:47]ADMIN: HELP: 2edgy/(Old Man Logan): I'm conflicted - heard by 3 non-AFK admins.
[01:17:54]ADMIN: PM: Zealotron/(Rat Prince Sawbones)->2edgy/(Old Man Logan): whats gucci
[01:17:55]ADMIN: PM: Kolith/(Grant Day)->2edgy/(Old Man Logan): me too

[01:17:59]ADMIN: HELP: 2edgy/(Old Man Logan): My validhunter persona is conflicting with my rp persona - heard by 3 non-AFK admins.

[01:18:07]ADMIN: PM: Zealotron/(Rat Prince Sawbones)->2edgy/(Old Man Logan): 2 edgy

[01:18:08]ADMIN: PM: Kolith/(Grant Day)->2edgy/(Old Man Logan): my character is a CRAZY VALIDHUNTER

[01:18:23]ADMIN: PM: Zealotron/(Rat Prince Sawbones)->2edgy/(Old Man Logan): just be yourself


[01:18:28]ADMIN: PM: Kolith/(Grant Day)->2edgy/(Old Man Logan): do you want my honest opinion?

[01:18:30]ADMIN: PM: 2edgy/(Old Man Logan)->Zealotron/(Rat Prince Sawbones): BEE


[01:18:31]ADMIN: PM: Kolith/(Grant Day)->2edgy/(Old Man Logan): real talk?

[01:18:33]ADMIN: PM: 2edgy/(Old Man Logan)->Zealotron/(Rat Prince Sawbones): YOURSELF
[01:18:37]ADMIN: PM: 2edgy/(Old Man Logan)->Kolith/(Grant Day): Yeah?
[01:18:41]ADMIN: PM: Kolith/(Grant Day)->2edgy/(Old Man Logan): just be yourself

[01:19:34]ADMIN: Zealotron/(Rat Prince Sawbones) jumped to 2edgy/(Old Man Logan)

why is this allowed

>>159766284
???

>>159765915
Stunning is not harming.

>>159766284
just be yourself

>>159766284
I fucking hate Kolith

>>159766601
Oh yeah, sure. Go for it.

Don't ahelp if you get caught.

>>159766284
>2edgy having an rp persona
LMAOING MY ASS OFF

>>159743058
>>Gearing up with security gear at round start when you already have handcuffs
So you are one of the "HURR HELMETS ARE FOR FAGGOTS, WHY WEAR ARMOR IF ITS CODE GREEN? NO THE VOX IS NOT GUILTY BECAUSE IT WAS NICE TO ME ONCE"

>>159764020
Gitlab sucks, we tried it and it was awful

>>159765085
>>159765481
>>159765915
>>159766601
i got banned for like a month for doing this to a vox officer and by that time i didnt have shit on my back, i also got an assistant permaban for a shit ton of time
Don't be a faggot
Rule 0
Also, people have been banned for WAY LESS

>>159757084
Nothing in that review is bad. And believe me I would say so if I thought it was, I'm still annoyed over "no one line if" autism.

PJB is mostly good, and all of the style changes he suggested in that review are things I agree with. In fact, 90% of the problems were because of copy/pasted code which should not really be done in the first place because oldcode is badcode. It's a time save but you have to end up going back and formatting later.

[01:54:18]ADMIN: MOD: Kolith/(unknown) : whats he doin

[01:54:29]ADMIN: MOD: JustSumGuy/(Wilt) : straight fucking killed two dudes

[01:54:41]ADMIN: MOD: Kolith/(unknown) : what the fuck nigger

[01:54:43]ADMIN: PM: JustSumGuy/(Wilt)->Taidabes/(Gary Hunter): What's the dealio with killing those dudes?

>2 people try to execute the clown without captains permission
>captain steps in and corrects them with his bullets
>gets banned
so this is the power of the admin team

>>159767675
Might as well kill people for killing a catbeast faggot
The clown was valid, the captain could just stunned them and called security, that's it

>>159767675
>immediately killing people as first resort
Nah, that's the mark of a shitter

>>159767675
>captain steps in and corrects them with his bullets
Should've taken them to medbay afterwords.

>>159767794
>The clown was valid
Out-of-game, yes. But there where still in-game repercussions to the murder.
It's not like the clown was a Nuke Op or a ling.

>>159767932
repercussions for killing someone thats valid is either nothing or brig time, not murder

>>159767317
Strictly more features than github, and the owners aren't as big of cucks.

>>159767794
>>159767930
>>159767932
the clone fed LSD to A SINGLE PERSON

the captain didn't get a chance to drag them to medbay because he was immediately banned because one of the admins metafriends died in the shooting

>>159768086
>buggier and slower
>M-MUH OWNERS
When will we get past this retarded notion that you can't use something if you don't agree with the political views of the people that created it?

Hippi station is the worst station I ever went to be sec on
>start of the shift
>not even 5 minutes in there is already people breaking into shit
>2 minutes later greys are killing
>going to the situation and arresting the person I get pushed by a fucking grey and he stuns me
>chase the guy down and realize he already got sec gear on.
>tases me then beats me to death
closed the game after that how is that fucking station even floating with that amount of people? it's nothing but greys being non antags

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>>159768052
Really gets the ganglia reflexing.

>>159768142
To the admin's credit, the captain has being deliberately unhelpful in the ahelp.
Which is the main thing that led to his ban, frankly.

>>159767794
>>159767930
>>159767932

[01:47:13]ADMIN: HELP: Scalymanfish/(Gary Tide): Mindbreaking people is grounds for being valid, right? - heard by 2 non-AFK admins.

[01:47:19]ADMIN: HELP: Scalymanfish/(Gary Tide): or should I let it go? - heard by 2 non-AFK admins.


[01:47:26]ADMIN: PM: Kolith/(unknown)->Scalymanfish/(Gary Tide): i'd say so

kolith told him to let it go, went to validhunt anyway, got his shit kicked in, then the defendee got banned

Really pathetic really, the validhunters in question were not even directly involved with the person that was fed LSD, they just happened to be nearby at the time
[01:40:18]ADMINWARN: <span class="admin"><span class="prefix">ADMIN LOG:</span> <span class="message"><span class='danger'>Clowny Spunk (freakyfred) fed Cassiopeia Komanov (gatanotoah) with Clown LSD pill (INTENT: HURT).</span> (Reagents: space_drugs(9 units); ) (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=219;Y=219;Z=1'>JMP</a>)</span></span>

>>159768609
See? The captain in question was completely within his right, he was upholding spacelaw.

They held an unauthorized execution and the captain excercised spacelaw unto the heathens

Are you that fucking thirsty for bans kolith?

>>159768609
>>159768730
so the assistants can't execute the trial but the cap can?
GEE

>>159768786
That's what "authorized" means, you fucking shitter

>did that clown just fedded you lsd?
>yeah
>GEAR UP BOYS WE GOT TO GO KILLS ME A CLOWN
>murder clown
>get executed by the captain
>captain gets banned

>>159768786
Without*

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>>159768786 >>159768871

>http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Space_Law

>>159767794
If they are on the crew manifest, catbeast or not they are a part of the fucking crew

Daily reminder that the only thing of worth to come out of /vg/code, the only thing good enough for every other server to steal from us after all these years, is mommis

>>159769065
>killing catbeasts is bad now

>>159768786
>>159768871
>>159769025
CAPTAIN IS FREE TO MURDER THE SHIT OUT OF WHOMEVER HE SEES FIT

HOWEVER, CENTCOMM (READ: ADMINS) ARE FREE TO COME DOWN ON HIS ASS FOR IT IF THEY SO DESIRE TO

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>>159769025
>>159769371


Alright so. From the logs we have

>1 clown that fed LSD to ONE(1) person
>2 validhunters that tried and successfully killed the clown
>1 captain that excercised his right to execute these two murders

>1 admin that fudged the ban details

It was not "several" people, it was two first of all.
It was not "shitter clown" it was "clown that fed LSD to a single crewmember"
It was not "because they were evil" it was "because they were murders"

Why is it so hard for admins to write coherent bans? Why do you try to fudge the details so hard in your favor?

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That HoS really, really needs a secban.

>>159765085
>As long as you don't remove people from the round, pretty much everything is ok? Right??!?!??!
No you insufferable greytiding shit.

>>159769638
Why? He wasn't wrong. Nanotrasen are just advanced lings

>>159769638
name?
reason?

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>>159769552
And to reiterate, the admins did not really give him enough time to justify his actions since kolith had to do his little ebin "do me a favor" bit and immediately daybanned him after saying "DONT EVER PLAY HEAD ROLES EVER AGAIN"

>>159769552
Because they don't want to look stupid when other people check the ban details.

How do you open safes? I have no diea whatsoever since theres basically no feedback. Do you start with + then - then +? how do you reset if you fuck up?

spend about 15-20 minutes and kept fucking up

>>159769638
>HoS beats a guy to death with a bible
>HE'S A VAMPIRE WHY ELSE WOULD HE DIE AFTER I SMASHED HIM IN THE HEAD WITH THIS HEAVY BOOK FIFTY TIMES INCINERATE HIM NOW
Comedy gold

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>>159769174
Catbeasts are valid to kill.
"Valid" and "good to kill" are fundamentally separate concepts.
Whether or not they're good to kill is not the discussion we're having.

>Get called in as a xeno Nanotrasen Navy Inspector on a job to inspect and fire someone
>I am also a changeling
>As soon as I go into the bridge the HoP goes wild and stuns, cuffs, and strips me
>Eventually the captain arrives and apologizes and I demand to have the HoP fired and detained
>A plasmaman slips me and bullies me
>Eventually we get him arrested and I tell the HoS that I will show him how we do it over at Centcomm
>Axe him in the chest and begin the succ
>The officers are confused but I assure them that it is merely a disciplinary action and nothing more
>After I am done I throw him on the table and we go out to look for the HoP
>Centcomm messages that there was no inspector and I agree to come quietly with the HoS to explain myself
>In the brig we have a short talk until the warden cuts my head off
>Time passes and I get my head sewed back on
>I revive and get killed immediately by the captain
>I revive again and manage to hold them off from killing me while the HoS stands for me
>Changeling ERT shows up to rescue me
>Back at centcomm the ERT stabs me in the back

That was a great round, 10/10.

>>159756856

bad flow and gas build up makes it go ape shit

>>159769776
Well good job, kolith looks fucking retarded because of this ban now

[01:52:38]ADMINWARN: <span class="admin"><span class="prefix">ADMIN LOG:</span> <span class="message">Zachary Hensha (carshalash) injected Clowny Spunk (Freakyfred) with hypospray. Reagents: Chloral Hydrate (INTENT: HELP) (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=195;Y=221;Z=1'>JMP</a>)</span></span>

dont forget this

carshalash is a metaclub member, who was also involved with the clowning incident.

The metaclub is real, it isn't a myth, it isn't an injoke. It is fucking real.

Kolith needs to be deadminned

>>159768634
>reagents: space_drugs(9 units)

okay what the actual fuck, it wasn't even LSD/mindbreaker

>>159769848
It's gotta be more than just that
That thing has multiple stages of fucked up

>>159769847
I literally singlehandedly saved the rep, and killed the invaders, and once we got sent back to base, my game froze for a solid 5 minutes, and I return to find the other fuckass ling ruined the mission by beheading your ass after we fought through hell to save you.

>>159770117
I think those two had an objective to kill me. Which explains one of them lasering me before we reached centcomm.
Still it was great.

>>159770117
no, all 3 of us had the mission to save you.

What is the ideal inventory setup for sec officer at round start?

>>159770243
>assassinate squidbilly the assistant

We were traitors not lings

>>159770325
2 flashbangs is a must
2 handcuffs is a must
2 tasers is debatable but doesn't hurt

>>159770325
12 donuts and some wet floor signs labeled (NO CRIME)

>>159770325
box of tools in backpack, secbelt full, spare taser, pepperspray mixed with water, spare cuffs

>>159769857
No one significant will remember this by the time they review Kolith's trialmin status.
> U n l e s s Y o u L e a v e T h e R e c o r d O f A B a n A p p e a l O n T h e F o r u m s

>>159770505
I'm not even that guy, I'm just tired of these shitty ban details when it's clearly made in favor of the admin >>159769552 except it was 9u spacedrugs instead of mindbreaker

>>159770325
Shotgun and a license to kill.

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>>159770505

Kolith is a shit admin and this ban will be lifted for sure if the guy appeals it.

The captain wasn't able to know that the admin gave the go ahead to murder the clown over something completely unrelated to the guys who were killing him.

The captain was fully within his rights to defend the clown from being murdered by two assistants.

Make ban appeal, help get kolith the banhappy deadminned.

Where did the guy who ate the space drugs complain?

Did those two guys actually adminhelp after getting killed for murdering someone?

>>159770787
>Did those two guys actually adminhelp after getting killed for murdering someone?
No.


>Where did the guy who ate the space drugs complain?
They didn't, all they said was "yes" after one of the shitters asked if the clown fed them mindbreaker (which was just spacedrugs)

I'm not going to make a ban appeal, I am not going to risk my neutrality on the server, I am not here to make an enemy of the metaclub
I've posted almost everything related to the incident, feel free to do it. I am not down to be meta'd by koliths angry friends

>>159770949
If they didn't even adminhelp being killed, then this ban is even shittier than it first looks.

Make an appeal and I will lift your ban for you.

t. totally an admin

>>159769963
literally watched him set carsh up as a catbeast earlier this morning without any ahelp asking, loaded him up with the tajaran specific medpacks and serwind as an asimov borg tased a human to stop him from validing his metabuddy