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Dueling Network/Yu-Gi-Oh! General #2360

Last thread: >>159534583

Yugiohprices Edition

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DN is ded.
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Useful Links:
Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/
OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists
TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/
Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/
Official /dng/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Booster SP: Fusion Enforcers (November 12th)
●OCG: Dimension Box Limited Edition (November 26th)
●OCG: Pendulum Evolution (December 23rd)

●TCG: Invasion: Vengeance (November 4th)
●TCG: Destiny Soldiers (November 17th)
●TCG: Pendulum Domination (January 20th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP.
● Read the careful cards.
● Lurk and read the archives.
● Read carefully the cards.
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above.
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play.
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something something xth for Invoker is eventually gonna get banned instead of Terrortop.
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>creates a ritual spell for a fusion monster
What was Konami smoking?
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tfw opponent attacks dark law instead of utopia with ultimate falcon
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>>159644363
First for the pet deck to end all pet decks
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When!?
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Post superheavy samurai decklists
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>>159644232
Why is spark dragon rising in price?
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best rank 4s to poop out next to dark law that don't take specific materials?
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>>159644802
Rafflesia
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>>159644932
What trap holes do you like?
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>>159644363
>kill madolches
no way T_T
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>>159645016
Trap Hole
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>>159644363
yugioh really needs a standard rotation so that old cards from 2011 don't need to be banned in 2016
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MAXC leaks when?
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>>159645016
floodgate is probably the best followed by bottomless and then maybe treacherous (can be an awful dead draw though) or time-space.
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I enjoy Crystrons.
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Lightsworns (budget extra deck edition), Monarchs, Shaddoll Trains.
Any of them particularly better than the others?
Only got Lunalights since I started playing again and thinking of getting another, perhaps better, deck
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>>159645016
not that guy but bottomless, floodgate, treacherous and traptrix trap hole are my favs in that order.
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>>159645016
Not him but i run

Traptrix nightmare
Timespace
Bottomless/treacherous

Not a fan of treacherous desu since i cant use solemns prior
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11yh Eternar reminderthat Red-Eyes is the best Dragon Bro.
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>>159645398
man, they should release more alternate arts of red eyes
fucking blue eyes has like 7 or so
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>>159645483
>dark magician, dark magician girl, and blue-eyes horde all the alternate art sets
>neos gets nothing
>stardust gets nothing
>utopia gets nothing
>fucking ODD-EYES AND PALS GET ONE WHAT
To be fair to Red-Eyes though, the latest alt art is actually really cool. I don't think they could do better.
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Magician Girl viable when?
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>>159645483
Red-Eyes has 4 or 5 too but yes, he deserves another two or more
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>>159645236
>Smiger, Thystvern, Rosenix, and Sulphanir get robots
>the turtle doesn't
Level 3 Synchro/Tuner that Draws 1 on summon and can Synchro from hand when
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>>159645728
>>dark magician, dark magician girl, and blue-eyes horde all the alternate art sets
Kaz has a Kaiba vs Yugi boner which is why their aces get all that art.
For Jounochi he's a strong character with the potential to surpass them both... that's it, doesn't even duel in the new movie but gets rescued by Atem.
>>159645814
Never.
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>>159645728
of that list, only stardust deserves new art and that's kinda fishy given its alternate synchro and assault mode
>To be fair to Red-Eyes though, the latest alt art is actually really cool.
which one? the one of the anniversary pack? pic related
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Should I spend 206.00 Brazilian Dollars in this set?

>3x Meteor Dragon Red-Eyes Impact
>3x Meteor Black Comet Dragon
>3x Catalyst Field
>3x Red-Eyes Insight
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>>159646002
>buying Red-eyes
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>>159645928
Yeah, that's the one. It's really, really good.
And I guess you can explain it away with alternate forms not making alternate arts a necessity, but Dark Magician and Blue-Eyes have an assload of those now themselves.
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>>159646002
no
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>>159646002
lolnotunlessyoulikelosingwithgarbage
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>>159646052
Come on, it's my favorite archetype since the release of the first structure decks.

>>159646079
I know, it's really expensive just because of the Meteor fusion.
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>>159646002
>Red-Eyes Meteor Dragon
God no, it's awful

>x3 Spark Field
you only need two and two terraformings

the rest is fine
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>>159645889
The turtle needs more love. I've been playing Yugioh for almost 5 days now with nothing but a crystal beasts deck, and I've gotta say these Crystron motherfuckers are quite the upgrade
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>>159646152
No
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>>159646002
>red-eyes meteor dragon impact
Huh. So the TCG does still sometimes come out with cooler names than the original.
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>>159646173
>spark field
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>>159646073
too bad that fucking card is like 15 bucks and said art has not been reprinted fucking ever
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>>159645879
this is the best red eyes art
this is a fact
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>>159646152
it's a fun pet deck but its very briky, heck /dng/'s only prominent Red-Eyes player is ConcreteGiraffes a.k.a Red-Eyes reminder, and his deck is very inestable, try to look at his deck and use it as a template
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>>159646173
>you only need two and two terraformings
not him, can you explain why not 3 of each?
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>>159645153
I just want to see how are they going to fix this mess.
Buster Blader is not only inconsistent but it's slow as dirt, even when you add engines to speed it up you just end up bricking instead half the time.
Let's not forget the Dragon Destroyer lock being too damn easy to out even after all the effort you put into making.
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>>159646591
>fixing buster blader
lol nope
Konami will just make it even worse
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>he doesn't pick paper every time
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>>159646591
rip chicken game
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>>159646591
What's your list? Make sure you max out Memories since that's one of the best ones. The really isn't that bad how it is already.
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>>159646552
I only run 2-2 because I try to speed up the FTK as much possible, with the Geminis as a support option via bruteforcing with R7NK or Ultimaya stuff if the FTK/OTK fails.
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>>159646854
Oh I was thinking of a non FTK deck needing 3 of both, but what you're doing makes sense.
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>>159646652
They didn't make BLS any worse did they?
It was basically impossible anyhow, I still don't understand how could they mess up a ritual deck this badly after Nekroz. You'd think with Chaos Form being a thing they'd at least try to promote synergy with Blue-eyes or Dark Magician as a supplementary engine to help but they just went with that stupid milling trap and Origin STILL being a -1 instead of an ARA clone.
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>>159646854
why not run 3-1? isnt that the same?
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>>159646964
you can try the gemini build its fun and all, but be warned, it relies in AoD and SSoSS to unbrick and REMD is a horrible card to draw into.
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You know what desperately needs an alternate art?
plain old Stardust Dragon
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>>159647198
nahh, I use Terraforming to thin the deck an extra card. I mean, Insight is a free -5 cards from the deck, Terraforming help me with a secondary option if needed but mostly is for deck thining shennanigans
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>>159647318
go back to the garbage deposit Yusei
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>>159647247
thanks for the tips, appreciated.
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>>159647539
you're welcome.
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>>159647318
>shooting star and stardust chronicle are complete shit
>stardust spark is only barely better than the base form since it can actually protect its babby 2500 body
>quasar and sifr are never used outside of gimmick synchro masturbation that takes 15 minutes to finish their turn
>don't even get any alternate artworks
>red dragon archfiend gets a retrain, a red nova retrain, and new archetypal cards in addition to its manga counterparts
>is actually a much more viable and simple to play petdeck on top of all the individual cards being more useful in general
Just kill me now.
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>>159647318
You could say that's a pipe dream.

gets off d-runner and tips duel disk
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So how will they fix BEWD.dek after they fix Buster Blader?
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>>159647437
I'm playing this build online and it's decent so far, can't see anything to change, only the meme FGD card.

That is why I need 3x of each. It rarelly bricks.
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>>159647810
>is actually a much more viable and simple to play petdeck on top of all the individual cards being more useful in general
>compared to the hero's
seems familiar
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>>159647810
>expecting main protags to get anything out of arcV
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>>159647810
Just wait until Yusei appears in Arc-V to defeat Zarc with the other legacy Yus
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>>159647884
Red-Eyes Fusion kind of reminds me of EMA Force of Will art.

Also, you can't use Red-Eyes Archfiend for the Archfiend Fusion from deck, btw.
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>>159647884
since you are playing black stone you could try to play Kinka-Byo and One for One to speed them up, also First of the Dragons isn't a bad Idea since he works as a lightning rod, but instead try to fit Labradorite Dragon it doubles as Falling Meteor material and gives you access to Ultimaya, thus Crystal Wing and Beelze
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>>159647884
at least put in one for one for free red stone into gemini normal summon
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>>159646746
Scissors ;)
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This list isn't good but it's fun.
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>>159648601
10/10
take it to worlds
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>>159647993
>Magnet Warriors are complete shit
>ABC is the best deck Pre-RATE
>Dark Magician is a joke
>Blue-eyes was the best deck Pre-ABC
How bad was Yugi asspulling throughout DM to beat Kaiba?
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>>159647884
take out archfiend and claw of hermos, they are garbage
add 1 summoned skull
take out also 1 dragon shrine, this deck sends lots of red eyes monsters to the graveyard very fast
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>>159646972
ARA is -1 though.
At least Origin can summon from grave.
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>>159648365
>>159648243
I had One for One in my old build, don't know why I removed it.

Labradorite for Ultimaya is a nice idea, thanks for the tip.

>>159648235
You can make it with Dragon's Mirror.
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>>159648601
>>159648678
forgot my pic
-embarrassed-
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>>159649076
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>>159649076
You could build a house with that.
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>>159649225
>>159649225
I said it's not good.
IDGAF about it being good because Red-Eyes will never be competitive with its current support.
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TAGS FUCKING WHEN?!
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>>159647862
Kisara
Lv 1 / LIGHT / Spellcaster / Tuner
One per turn, you can discard 1 card; special 1 Blue-eyes monster from your deck. You can tribute this card; special summon 1 Blue-eyes monster from your hand. You can banish this card from the graveyard; special summon 1 Blue-eyes normal monster from your graveyard.
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>there are 31 union monsters in the entire game
>there are 32 spirit monsters in the entire game
>there are 42 gemini monsters in the entire game
>there are 65 ritual monsters in the entire game
>for comparison there are 276 fusions, 308 tuners, 270 synchros, 334 xyzs, and 188 pendulums

Konami getting on the ball fucking WHEN
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Hi guys Konami here,

We decided to go ahead and remove Maxx "c" from Machine Dragon Re-Volt as we dont see it having any place in the deck.
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>>159649478
several hours from now
not even late night time yet
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>>159649478
Never, CG fucking ruins them.
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>>159649514
I think it's kind of sad that geminis, unions, spirits, flips, and toons are all recognizeable to me from when i played in 2007ish, and the only new card types that aren't a new card color are just tuners
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>>159649514
you forgot Toons
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>>159649571
guessing this also means no allure in the DDD one either?
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>>159649427
>Making a deck intentionally worse because it's not meta.

Why?
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>>159649571
Put Gold/Silver Gadget instead.
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>>159649662
>still mad
get over it already
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>>159649734
We dont feel it would be fair to offer a card like allure in a deck thats supposed to be a taste tester, also silva is now banned
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>>159649865

SHE HAD FUCKING LAWNMOWER AND DIDN'T USE IT BECAUSE "LOL IT WOULDN'T BE FUN"

SHE'S LITERALLY FUCKING RETARDED
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>>159649076
read-em and weep
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Given we have yet to receive monkey, rooster and dog in zodiac beasts, what would you like to see?
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CG?
what have I missed these last two months?
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>>159644586
>Predaplant
>Preda
>Not Predator
Fucking Konami of America.
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>>159649514
Dragon Buster to 1, Hangar stays at 3 for Union support in the future. ABC doesn't justify how bad Unions are.
Spirits are a mess and should have never been printed, just stay in the filler arc.
Gemins were a mistake from GX
Rituals need actual love, stop nerfing them.
Most of Fusion might be HERO or thos vanillas from the DM era, print more generic fusions like Dolls or Metalfoes
The Tuner to Synchro ratio is off balance, print more level 3,4,5,9,10 and 11 synchros please Konami.
Xyz needs to stop, enough is enough
Pendulum needs more development outside of being an enabler, Arc-V has 5 months to accomplish this.
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>>159649662
Last I checked cute girl was just some australian shitposter.
The people ruining tags are tripfags and redditors.
Sometimes even redditor tripfags.
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>>159650012
sun wukong, a cuck-a-doodle-doo to make jokes with bullhorn, and shiba-warrior taro
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>>159650058
Hi Kinami here,

We want yu-gi-oh! to be a family friendly game so any references to violent films must be removes (star wars is exempt because its twearts fav though)
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>>159650012
Something that gives them more varied plays than doing the same combo into the same chain of Xyzs every turn. I don't know how, but they need some variance to stop being so gosh darn helmet.
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>>159649662
>>159649947

calm your tits its just a game

>>159650057

a meme duelist
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>>159650234
CG, as in ConcreteGiraffes or CuteGirl?
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>>159650058
>>159650190
Konami does these kinda name changes to inoffensive cards to rustle autistic weebs.

It works
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>>159650325
CockGirl
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>>159649947
why are you impersonating me?
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>>159650907
sup diamante, what'cha doing?
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>>159649947
>>159650234
oh nvm, he does this in every tag
epic, just epic my dude
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>pendulums STILL don't have differing numbers for their red scale and blue scale and the show is almost over
KONAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>159649662
>ywn pound Cute Anime Grill in the ass
>ywn make CG live up to his name through rape and sissy training to become your personal fucktoy

Just kill me now.
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Greedy Venom question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtlLZQrS-_4
3:48 how does he fusion GV with 1 card?
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>>159650613
lewd.
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are cubics still shit?
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>>159651340
kingii and the other plant are 2 cards, not 1
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>>159651451
Yes
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>>159651340
He used starve on the field and squid drosera in his hand
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>>159651451
cubics are practically cloudians 2.0
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>>159651056
jacking off to milf hentai
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>>159651698
wonderful
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>>159650135
>cuck-a-doodle-doo to make jokes with bullhorn
Please no, we have enough shitposting as it is
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>>159652062
I don't want to sound accusatory but if you're offended by cuck jokes, what does that make you? Does that make you the bull?
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>>159651595
>>159651536
b-but Duja comes out soon!
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>>159651698
What, didn't Diamante died in a Shadow Game?
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>>159652324
yes, and Yami Kaiba has lost like 3 yet he also keeps appearing
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>>159652237
And do you know what else comes out soon?
Zodiacs AKA our new meta for most of 2017.
Better stock up on those Terrortops and Invokers.
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>>159652145
It doesn't offend me, but we have a surplus in shitposting.
/pol/ has enough cuck jokes to sate me
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>>159652324
yea but desu i got tired of the anon life
>>159652381
yeah but yami kaiba is a joke lmfao
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N-Nani?!
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>>159652508
>terrorshits
>good
that fucking rat will get the ban hammer instantly on release
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>>159652508
>Implying Dante wont sacrifice TT to stay at 3 come next banlist.
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>>159652639
nah its getting bumped to secret
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>>159652604
>tfw i watched the replay 5 times today because i was looking through my replays
gives me a hearty laugh everytime
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>>159652604
this never gets old
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>>159652604
What happened.
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>>159651340
>only played against pet decks and hot garbage
>still lost to Toons, and a terrible Ra.dek of all things

Why are Predator Plants such hot garbage?
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Wait, I just realized. If they wanted Red-Eyes to have "technically vanilla monsters that still have effects", they should have just made Normal Pends for them. Not that it was ever going to happen, but it would've been a bit more useful.
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>>159651340
>triple fucking poly
Shit. Even for Predator Plant standards.
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>>159653330
For some reason nostalgia faggots hate pendulums for whatever the reason. Beats me why.
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>>159653625
Nostalgiafags don't hate Xyz and Synchro too?
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>>159653625
Recurring fodder as a mechanic is pretty degenerate. Its probably why so much floating is on non-pends so people don't have to worry about Pendulums overshadowing everything. Pepe/EMEm being allowed to exist sorta justifies the hate too.
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>Dark Magician is a joke
>It is trash won't ever top
>Just recently won 1st and has been topping consistently as of late in OCG and TCG

Is /dng/ getting btfo again?
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>>159650059
This
Xyz has too many fucking cards
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>>159653883
Everything floated before pendulums though. And the graveyard was basically your second hand.
Not saying that still isn't the case or anything, but Pendulums if anything have only helped to move the game away from being solely focused on the graveyard. The game has also gotten far more options to get rid of monsters, in such ways that would not put pendulums ontop of the extra deck, which naturally works on non-pendulum floaters too.

The game has improved from pendulums being introduced.
I can't imagine people who claim that pendulums ruined the game by floating having played the game much. Because floating was already the hot thing and leading trend.
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>>159654146
Jeez, I wonder how I'm gonna get out of this.
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>>159653330
It would have been even worse.
Pendulums only work when archetypes have search power out of the ass but Red-eyes has only like 1 or 2 decent searchers.
>>159654146
>has been topping consistently as of late in OCG and TCG
One top every once is a while is not topping consistently.
Even Road of the King's weekly OCG breakdowns don't even mention his ass and other meme shit like Yang Zings are getting tops.
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>>159649514
Can't wait for the day we get gemini pendulums and they finally work well.
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>>159654325
>Those outs for days

Feels good meng.
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>>159654146
Aren't most of those just by the same guy anyways?
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>>159650012
Rat to 1
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>>159654219
As far as I'm concerned, the biggest problem with Pendulums is in creating ways to stop them that both aren't Pend-specific hate and that won't also murder most things that aren't Pendulums. Against Pends as monsters, banishing or sending them back to hand or deck works, but those also work against nearly every other deck. Meanwhile, using banish or spin against Pends as Spells is fine, but it's overkill against most non-Pend backrow.

I think in that sense, the mere existence of Pendulums has been a major event in the removal arms race.

>>159654365
It certainly couldn't be much worse than leaving them as Geminis. Aside from the minor searching boost from Summoner's Art, REAoL being vanilla in the deck would make it valid material for Archfiend Black Skull via Red-Eyes Fusion.
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>>159655807
>ways to stop them that both aren't Pend-specific hate and that won't also murder most things that aren't Pendulums
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>>159656397
You're not quite wrong, but it's still a weird situation when that card's the best way to attack the problem. I'm just wondering why they haven't been giving us more ways to just directly attack the Extra, like with Mega Zaborg.
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>>159656397
The card absolutely murders non-pendulum decks though.
There are good reasons for why it's one of the most played cards in spite of pendulums not being the most common or even most powerful decks.
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>>159656921
There's a reason that card is not meta since 2008.
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Will we ever get cards that make D.D and D/D cards work together? We need to make the ultimate D deck guys.
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>>159656980
Yeah. It has had a tendency to royally screw over your own deck.
Make no mistake. The card is not meta because of pendulums. The card is now meta because decks can make boards even without it. Like ABCs most prominently. Play your field and then activate Anti-Spell Fragrance and you've pretty much won since you can just loop your monster effects over and over again. And yet, even in the mirror the card will grant you victory since it prevents the opponent from playing their field. And other decks too have spells they rely upon. Even if they don't need them after they've been played, allowing them to also main Anti-Spell Fragrance.

Do you honestly believe that if Pendulums were to be suddenly purged from the game this very instant, people would stop playing Anti-Spell Fragrance and it would disappear from the meta?
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Why is everyone in Yugioh anime a deck stacking faggot.
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>>159657424
They play this instead.
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>>159657434
Dennis isn't.
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>>159654146
meh, is just abc dying to side deck again
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>>159657434
Pretty sure this counts as bricking.
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>>159657792
He still beat /dng/ incarnated aka Sawatari, so either he didn't or sawatari is really bad.
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>>159644232

Actual functioning Linux port when?
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>>159657554
Cmon ABC can't use this shit.
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>>159657407
wtf is that cat?
schrodinger?
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>>159657697
I still don't understand how he won.
Dark Magician was just a low tier rogue deck over in the OCG and never won anything relevant yet here it managed to beat ABC.
He must have sacked the side like Jones did against that Blue-eyes player at YCS minni
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>>159657554
That's almost the opposite of the case though. A lot of decks can play their spells and forget about them after they've done their job. Which is also pretty much why Desires is so easily played because you don't really need to worry about what you banish after you've already played your spells once.
Also, Imperial Iron Wall even messes up your Desires.
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>>159658370
>He still beat tripfags incarnated
Fixed
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>>159658724

Its called D/D ghost, people are sayign its a schrodinger referance.
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>>159658370
>Be Sawatari
>Against this pendulum dual haired weirdo
>Playing Yosenju
>Have game
>Decided to Pendulum summon and then tribute summon even though my opponent has no back row and one monster.
>Lose

He's bad.
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>>159658643
They just use other floodgate that effectively murder other deck, like Chaos Hunter, or shit like that, since after all, ASF doesn't fully murder the other deck.
ASF will just be a niche tek in ABC for a while, then disappear completely.
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>>159658912
>tripfags
>bad
Excellent meme my lad
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How do we make Crystal Beasts work...

Make up two cards that stop them being shit
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>>159658370
>open 3 Shadow Veil, PK Spear, and MST
>not bricking
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>>159659158
1 coming to tcg
2 oh wait
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>>159659158
crush your deck then make it regenerates as a Gem Knight deck and then it will be slightly more competitive
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>>159658954
i remember hearing an interpretation of schroedinger's cat where the cat lives or dies based on a container with a radioactive compound in the cat box that is cracked open (or is not), based on a timer mechanism.
maybe that's the popular one, but if i'm remembering right and it is the actual reference, the cracked brown thing and being called a ghost would indicate the cat is dead.
jewart beat them to it though
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>>159658828
There's a lot of other side deck material that can outright murder non-pendulum deck.
ASF is used because it kills pendulum deck AND somewhat cripples the other.
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>>159658815
he cheated?
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>>159658912
>tripfags are bad and all the anons are expert players
LMFAO YEA RIGHT KID
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>>159659875
X = ~Y
Y = A
X =/= ~A
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>>159659875
That's not what Sawatari stands for, dumbshit.
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>>159658815
The same reason as that Red-eyes top in OCG.
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>>159660048
shut the fuck up you trash player
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>>159660173
I keep hearing about this but I haven't seen it, what did he faced? any link?
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>ancient gears got their support in the same set that introduced Drancia Tiger King draw 5 set 4 pass, and after the deck that introduced Tsukuyomi ABC set 4 pass
>Chaos Giant has no monster effect immunity
thanks Konami. they're trash cards that suit me perfectly
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>>159659516
Schroedinger's cat was a thought experiment that Erwin Schroedinger came up with to illustrate a problem he had with the Copenhagen interpreteation of quantum mechanics.
As for the cat and the box, it's a box that you can't tell anything about what is inside it without opening it. Then there's a vial of poison that gets broken if a particular radioactive atom decays, radioactive decay is governed by quantum mechanics and is a truly random process. The point of this is that people would say the particle is in a superposition of two states, but by linking this to a cat surely that's absurd, but people just turned round and agreed that the cat was in a superposition.
I may be remembering this slightly wrong, and who really cares about quantum mechanics in a card game thread, but I like physics so why not type this out.
D/D/D cards being named after a bunch of scientists is pretty cool. Wish I could play the deck without bloody fifty quid extra deck cards
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>>159658954
>>159659516
Time for me to post this image.
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>>159660318
I wonder why I can't find this one in ocg.xpg
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/archives/7661704.html
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>>159660641
I wish I could play the deck in TCG at all

But Jewrat was so scared of it beating Kozmo (which it did) he made sure you can't play it until powercreep proactively raped it.
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>>159645236
What build have you been using?
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>>159660791
>ABC was so polarizing that even Red-eyes tops by maining floodgates to it.

I shouldn't be surprised, even Charmers could beat Nekroz by maining floodgates.
Floodgates sure are healthy right :^)?
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Probably a dumb question: let's say you have three Cherries in your Side Deck. How many do you side in for Game 2? Do people normally side in all 3? Only 2? Largely depends on what you're playing against?
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>>159654194
That card isn't good even with its summoning condition
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when are we getting destiny soldiers tcg leaks
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>>159660791
>main triple Chaos Hunter and Maxx "C", triple DDV, triple main REMD, Starve Venom, FotD and galaxy

SD treetoad, how the fuck did he summon fuucking treetoad?
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>>159663005
Ghost Reaper
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>>159663005
Why is Chaos Hunter even good? Her effect may be ok, but she wasted a card to be summoned and has only moderate stats for a high-lvl monster
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>>159663305
>opp goes for tsuk
>summon chaos hunter
>can't summon ABC
>kill tsuk
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>>159663305
r7nk and the discard sometimes works as grave setup for red-eyes and/or gospel
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>>159663421
>>can't summon ABC
Oh...
>>159663490
Yeah, now I noticed I can run her in OEM
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>>159663305
Metal can Pendulum summon her.
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>>159663005
>idiots see Cherries in the ED
>still ask stupid shit like this
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>>159663728
Oh yeah
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>>159663678
OEM shouldn't be using the grave that much so i don't know if the discard outlet will help, but you can still use her for rank 7 and flootgating banish
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>>159662612
You side all of your Cherries. Running 3 cherries maximizes your chances of getting her in your starting hand. Running anything less than 3 defeats the purpose of the card (slaughter their ED boss monster before they even summon it).

>>159662947
Next/this week most likely. The deck features will also drop sometime this week.
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>>159662612
If you plan to only side in 2 cherry then why did you have 3 in your side?
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>>159664289
>>159664473

I pretty much figured you'd want to side in all 3 to maximize your chances of seeing her (a friend was trying to tell me that siding in two, for some reason, was plenty), but I just wanted to confirm. Many thanks.
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>>159650059
>>159654194
Shitters.txt
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>>159662612
>Put 3 Cherries in the Side
>Only side 2 every time

Oh boy, retard hour.
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I miss TCG Ignition priority.
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>>159665085
I miss my unlimited Fusion deck filled with stuff that I was even unable to summon
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>Dark Magicians will never be meta
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>>159665318
>149 person regional
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>>159665479
>1 top is meta
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When will Rank 4 stop being the dominant Rank in the meta?
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>>159666216
when Konami realizes that there are other ranks
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>>159666216
when they #FreeBlaster
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>>159666216
archfiends will make r6nk great again.
and will get beatrice banned like lavalval chain was
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>>159666349
So never?
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>>159666216
Before ABC, you can argue that R3 is the dominant rank in the meta.
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>>159666417
What, these archfiends? Are they getting support?
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>>159665318
>actually maining Cherries
Even Cubics topped doing this.
That's just pathetic.
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>>159644363
>invoker could possibly get banned
N-no...
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the other day I played against an Harpie fucking faggot deck
kill yourselves if you do this
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>>159666827
>I intentionally choose to lose game 1
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>>159666620
commander and giant, mostly.
no support since 2013, but I'm just praying they get revisited sometime like the other archetypes legacy support because I like rank 6
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>>159666827
Your fault for playing a deck that dies to cherry.
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>>159667150
>Harpie's Brother will never return

This card won me duels back in 2002.
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>>159666216
Never, thank God.

>>159667150
Why so upset over titty birds?
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>>159667412
>Why so upset over titty birds?
HURR DURR RETURN TO HAND
SPECIAL SUMMON ANOTHER FUCKING HARPIE
>REPEAT 4 OR 5 FUCKING TIMES, TAKE 3 FUCKING MINUTES TO FINISH HIS SUMMON SHIT
>LAUGH WHEN THEY EAT A QUAKING MIRROR FORCE IN THE FACE
>FUCKER RAGE QUITS

I hope that faggot burns in hell for making me lose my time
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>>159667548
>QUAKING MIRROR FORCE
What shitty deck are you using?
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When is Konami leaking FIRE EIDOLON?

It's been two whole weeks of nothing.
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>>159667705
blue eyes chaos turbo
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>>159667705
probably stunshit
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>>159667548
Have you ever played against Zodiac?
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>>159667705
>Quaking Mirror Force
>Shitty

Those don't belong in the same sentence retard.
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>>159667808
>>159667839
Whatever it is, it's always funny to see people playing with shitter decks complain about other shitter decks.

>>159667907
It's not good to lie.
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>>159645046
>>159667039
You'll live
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>>159667907
He didn't put it in the same sentence.
>>
Here's a different version of an image i posted forever ago.
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>>159668029
>MUH META
fuck off
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>>159667548
>deck has massive s/t hate with searchable hunting ground and searchable feather duster and lightning chidori, although the duster search will admittedly probably never happen unless the opponent drew their own feather duster
>quaking
i have a feeling you got mad because your quaking didn't actually go off
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>>159668029
>lying about Quaking
>getting cockblocked by degenerate shit like Vanity's Fiend to simply perma-flip it facedown along with one or more monsters to only have your opponent scoop at regionals and locals

It is a great card. Drowning is great too.

Just you and the anon bitching about Harpies are shitters.
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>>159668101
>MUH SHITTER CARDS
Fuck off
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>>159665085
That was the most dumbest shit ever. I am glad that we no longer have to suffer from that retardation.

Why the fuck do they so often try to make the TCG into an entirety different game? Do Konami of America hate YGO so much?
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somebody said TAGS?
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>>159668079
>Construct and Winda art overlaps a bit
Damn, I thought I can easily edit it into card art.
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>>159668302
still a couple hours
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the other day I got hate mail for finishing a duel in a draw with this
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>>159668079
>Much Fusion. Very Construct. Wow.
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>>159668201
Yeah, shame that never happens unless the player is some shitter cuckold.
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>>159667779
aren't we just getting the set on friday?
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>>159668079
See. I am telling you. It is Tool, not fucking "Scout".
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>>159668201
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>>159668398
out
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>>159668292
KoA, or probably just Tewart and his team choose to make this game retarded.

I enjoyed having the OCG/TCG banlist being the same fucking shit. At least it would give you roughly half a month to prepare for it and let you either update your deck or drop it entirely for something better or take a break while things settled down.

Instead we get shit like Kozmos and BAs being eternal float shit that still can't even compete in the OCG without needing OCG to hold it's fucking hand by providing a more reliable engine that guarantees it's niche to be seen while giving it additional support to make it actually degenerate rather than just shitty degenerate.
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>>159668393
I trade you some keks in exchange of proof
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>>159668517
Anon, you or I might not even make it to Friday. I just want to know if it is another shitty vanilla who only enables mowing over shit like Infinity.
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>>159668769
I like how Kozmo is boosted by Zodiac Beast of all things over there.
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>>159668909
I doubt the japs care whether you make it or not
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>>159668497
And I fucked your wife, mom, and daughter last night.

>>159668585
That card is just as acceptable by still negatable with Titanic shit.

>tfw it wasn't called Utopic Harbinger Dragon Titanic Galaxy
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>>159668292
Be glad it died during Dino Rabbit.
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new mirror force card when?
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>>159669016
more than that I soubt that anyone else here cares if he makes it or not
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>>159668982
It's literally boosted by 3 engines.

Speedroids and Juunishishi.

Both guarantee deck thin while providing some form of disruption.

Same thing happened with BAs.

Speedroids and PK provided deck thin and Beatrice was added in to provide disruption through Farfa and that other thing that I forget his fucking name.
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>>159669410
>*2 Engines

Fuck my life. I can't type 2 for shit.
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>>159669187
It doesn't need you to pray that opponent doesn't wipe your S/T and attack blindly.
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Tsukuyomi is shit.
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>>159669549
>set 4 average and pass
>worst case scenario is opponent literally going two Twin Twisters balls deep on that backrow
>literally one Xyz play is available now if they didn't exhaust resources to that extent

Wao.
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>>159669857
>set 4 average
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Can lava golem be used in anything cool thats not just a burn mashup? that org list with dolls reminded me of that card
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>>159669857
>not just summoning denko
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>>159669952
>not running nuevo novo new neo tier 1 deck Dank Magician and Cherries

It's like you're some sort of cave man.
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>>159669187
At least you can admit that you're a shitter who likes awful cards.
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>>159668029
>It's not good to lie.

But people play it in the new Toadally Awesome Paleozic decks and it works great
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>>159669231
add in drowning for the right
so they're almost set and will probably want to make it really good unless they start up anew
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>>159670137
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>>159670203
>rogue at the best of times deck runs a card
>must be good
Convinced me.
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>>159670137
>Dark Magician
>Tier 1
Is this the new ebin meme? First it was Cyber Angels after that top in the last format and even Cap hyped it up and then Dark Synchro after it won that regionals.
Now lets up hype up Dark Magician and watch it fail like the other 2 decks everybody hyped up only to amount to nothing.
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>>159670203
They're running Photon Thrasher in ABC, so it must be good in every other deck.
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>>159670735
He called it shit even before they mentioned the deck, which is objectively not true since it sees play in something that grabs frequent tops
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>>159670865
Jar of Greed sees play in something that grabs frequent tops.
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>>159670984
>jar before maxing yata
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>>159670865
Keep on being delusional.
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>>159652604
Didn't you lose to Darklords and then bitched about Kristya for like an hour on the discord?
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>>159668909
>might not even make it to Friday
thankfully i'm not american and unless trump immediately bombs my country, i should make it to friday.

hope be with you.
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anyone got any windbitch decks?
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r8 my meme
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>>159672572
y/10
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>>159672572
awful/10
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What's the best yugioh vidya to emulate so I can go into a nostalgia coma for a couple hours.
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>>159672572
Just shave it off a bit and you can play highlander.
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>>159672572
it's kuso

t/n: "kuso" is japanese for "shit"
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Yo i need a 6 (though pref 5 or even 4 actually) card engine that revolves around either warrior (5+) or spell casters. It can have additional extra deck cards
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>>159673038
Define engine.
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>>159673038
Empowered dudes
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>>159673038
3 malicious 3 apprentice illusion magician
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>>159672889
>highlander
nani?
>>159672918
>>159672849
i want advices too
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>>159673181
enables plays
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>>159673615
gemini elf summoned skull tribute engine
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>>159673615
Performapal Life Swordsman + Mooyan Curry
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konami please show dino deck
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>>159672447
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>>159673526
play a better deck
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>>159674006
Not until I have a couple dozen of each Evolzar, Super-Ancient Dinobeast, and Fossil Dig.
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>>159670305
oh shit
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>>159673830
Second Level 4 or lower U.A. monster NEVER EVER
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>>159672447
Same guy who posted the Speedroid WWs; this is the other main hybrid that works.
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>>159670305
what's the one on the center?
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>>159674421
Here's the leaked artwork for the second level 4 U.A.
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>>159675203
Why you gotta bully me anon? I just wanted to dunk on people with Jersey turbo with a build that doesn't brick harder than Cubics.
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TAG DUELS WHEN?!
I'm getting bored of dueling losers :/
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>>159675327
I actually didn't mean to come off as rude, sorry anon.
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>>159674825

Shining Silver Force.
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>>159675670
what a piece of shit, wow.
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Stardust and Synchron support when
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>>159675670
>when your opponent activates Seven Tools to negate your Trap so you counter with this and blow up his entire backrow
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>>159676023
5ds legacy
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>>159676085
>entire backrow
>face-up S/T only
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How do I make use Tune Magician in OEM?
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>>159676216
First off, if you are going to impregnate a card with magic pendulum sperm, do it with a ritual monster next time. I want friggin ritual pendulums.

Second, it depends in what palys you want. As much as Tune Magician seems like a great tuner, that banishing thing komoney did really screws up the deck. So, Psy-Frame Omega and/or Scarlight, things that do stuff to turn the tables are your best bet. Omega also retrieves cards to the grave, which is a big difference in using her.

Third: Xyz. She is a 1-card r4nk, which means she is an instant Dire Wold, or Lightning or shit like that. And shit like that is good shit nowadays
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>>159676616
>ritual pendulms
that chance went away long ago
>>
When will Konami get the memo that people don't like Blackwings anymore?
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>>159676216
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>>159677221
blame japan's shit taste
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>>159677221
BIG
BLACK
WINGS
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>>159644232
>finally reach 1700s playing fucking mermails
>game crashes next match and drops me 50ish points
Fuck you too percy. Sometimes i wonder what's the point.
>>
>>159677221
i don't get how anyone ever liked them.
>>
>Fairy Tail - Sleeper
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>159676616
Is it a good idea to main this to helps with Tune and Tuning Magician restriction and murder ABC?
Is there any other card with similar effect? Preferably the one that can be applied on my turn unlike Lancea.
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>>159678005
They were meta
It's the same reason people like Zodiacs
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>>159678090
>worst effect
>hard opt
>shit rename
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>>159678291
At least you don't have to buy ketamine to rape her, though.
>>
>>159678250
Can you splash Blackwing in every deck ever?
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>>159678169
That's a good card, but to help with Tune and murder ABC at the same time, it seems like the only card. Then again, A 1-card lvl 8 synchro or r4nk is a big advantage. Summon a Tune together with Chaos Hunter and use Tune to go Abyss Dweller, you will be basically raping ABC more than Tuning Magician raped Yuya
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>>159658441
There was one.

wine sucks
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Is Zexal I really as shitty as it's made out to be?
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>>159678516
no_
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>>159678516
I actually really liked the two Zexal.
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>>159678516
i think arc-v is better or at least has better parts, early zexal is pretty horrible in my opinion, even more so than early arc-v.

i don't acknowledge my nostalgia opinions about the rest of the series.
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>>159678459
Sometimes I wish Chaos Hunter affect both player.
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>>159676085
>seven tools
>inflicting damage
retard?
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>>159676216
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>>159678250
gale was at 1 for a reason retard
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Better main deck monsters when ?
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>>159679609
RIGHT NOW
ON THE RING OF HONOR
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>>159679609
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>>159679609
If and only if Rituals and Fusions are finally allowed to have recur.
Fusions require 3 cards (min)
Xyz require 2 cards (min)
Synchro requires 2 cards (min)
Ritual requires 3 cards (min)

Therefore, logically, as soon as Synchro Monsters appeared, on-archetype Rituals and Fusions should have allowed players to draw 1 card on-Summon to maintain equal advantage with other Summoning methods.
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>>159678516
Not at all.

Just the first few episodes post-Shark and pre-Kaito have the GX feel which makes it slow as fuck since it is literally a "Monster of the Week" sort of niche. But afterwards it picks up pace quicker than GX ever did.

GX is shit no matter what anyone says, and 5Ds peaked too soon.

Give it a try. You will love both Zexal and Zexal II.
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>>159680090
>Elise

My fucking dick. She is the best.

"Not as in triplets, three times the fun..."
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>>159680575
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>>159680437
I actually agree with you, anon
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>>159680437
sartorious arc was great

sent to the stars was shit
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>>159676948
Here's an image of Tarotrei just because.
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>>159681496
Oh hey, Tarotrei pics exist on twitter, time to dive
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Whats a good card that has a discard affect that is preferably a low level tuner?
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>>159682038
cute loli and ugly loli
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>>159680420
The advantage both Ritual and Fusion have is that you usually can use material in your hand.
Ritual from grave also becomes a trend nowadays, and with Pre-Prep exist, you effectively just use 1 card to Ritual summon.
Esprit can do this if they use Trade-in and use Hino in grave as tribute.

Fusion can fuse from deck and I hope it won't becomes a trend.
Miracle Fusion seems too powerful, but ABC is strong because the floating effect and Eidolon seems balanced enough, so it might be what fusion will becomes in the near future.
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>>159682038
It depends on if you mean discarding itself like the handtrap harem, or discarding other shit like Fabled Raven does.
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>>159682103
which lolis?
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>>159678169
Iron Wall is that card that just gets better with time, like Emptiness or ASF:

>fucks over ABC
>practically autowins against N O I D S
>fucks over Pot of Memes
>fucks over Psyframes
>fucks over pet decks like Shiranui and Madolche
>fucks up Ugly Loli
>autowins against Kozmemes if they already didn't bring out a ship
>throws a wrench in Burning Ass
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>>159682038
Unizombie?
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>>159682038
On-discard effect, effect that needs you to discard, or can discard itself?
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>>159682296
ghost ogre is cute loli
ghost reaper is ugly loli
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>>159682534
>>159682316
>>159682292
>>159682103
like if im running a few cards that say "discard a card to..." which i am, i want a couple of fodder that also act as tuners, since im currently running 0 and want to open up that option
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>>159682304
That's only because Konami is retarded and wants to force the banish zone as the new graveyard
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>>159682608
oh i always thought reaper was pretty cute
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>>159682103
>>159682608
>ugly loli
She is cute! Cute!
>>159682765
Yes she is super cute!
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So I don't derail this thread into an Elise thread.

R8/H8/B8 my deck familia.

>>159680782
Keep it coming anon.

>>159680953
Joule sort of made me appreciate lolis a bit, but not appealing as Elise.

>>159681107
GX's pacing was utter garbage. Never in my life have I ever chosen to allow myself to fall victim to something so shitty like that again.

Arc-V is the same thing except it redeems itself with a few great quality duels, something GX lacked until literally after it was halfway done.
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>>159672852
Joey the passion.
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>>159682961
>Arc-V is the same thing except it redeems itself with a few great quality duels
lol
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>>159682649
Fabled Cerburrel, Fabled Catsith, and Mist Valley Baby Roc.
Baby Roc can miss-timing though.
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Why do prediction princesses exsist?
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>>159683362
Because Cookpal doesn't.
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is there anything we can do with him boys?
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>>159683090
>shitty pacing for 30 something episodes until Yuto gets killed
>plot picks up for 10-20 something episodes to slow the fuck down again for another 20-30 something episodes
>picks back up and slows the fuck down again
>rush Xyz Dimension to help fix this
>literally does nothing but add more Kaito face-reaction gold and waste budget
>Fusion Dimension finally happens and slows the fuck down with shit that no one cares for until Yuri hype and Yuya going Satan-EGAOing hype

It is literally GX all over again.

>>159683224
Thank you for being beautiful, anon.
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RANK 4 PHANTOM KNIGHT FUCKING WHEN
RANK 5 PHANTOM KNIGHT FUCKING WHEN
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>>159683280
how does it miss timing?
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>>159679889
what are the child dollars doing in the impact zone?
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>>159683876
It says WHEN not IF.

So it misses timing in under almost every fucking circumstance if it's not involved in the first chain link.
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>>159683727
Climax Wing Synchro Dragon, Dark Ragnarok Xyz Dragon, Ending Venom Fusion Dragon when
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>>159683876
because it's a "when: you can do this"
it has to be the last thing to happen in a chain (even if the only thing to happen after it is a negated effect resolving for no effect (but negated activations won't cause missed timing since they don't resolve))

"if: you can do this" doesn't miss timing and can occur as long as the thing happened at all in the last chain, and "if: do this" and "when: do this" are mandatory which means they can't miss timing, and there doesn't appear to be a difference between "if" and "when" for mandatory effects at all
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>>159683657
No problem.
Also, I binge-watched Arc-V. Guess if I was one of the guys acompanying it weekly, I would have those issues with it too (most my issues is with egao). Still my second-favorite series.

Gonna go sleep now, good night guys!
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Picking up one of the new Force of Will starter decks either tonight or later this week. Should I go with the Darkness deck or the Water deck?
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>>159682961
trade the kaijus for the lv7 DARK one since it works with allure
3 illusion can be too much at times, up to you
Max out Allure
Invest in Chaos Hunters
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>>159684812
What would I swap out to squeeze in the Chaos Hunters?

I started a new job recently, so money ISN'T an issue. I plan to rarity whore the fuck out of this deck since I already invested so much in it.
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When am I no longer a shitter at yugioh?
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>>159685137
when you've won Worlds twice
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>>159684798
neither
go with the light/yellow for cheap +6s like nothing
"t" sore loser of starter tourny that got paired against it
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>>159684386
I accompanied Zexal and Arc-V on the weekly basis and I cannot for the life of me forgive Arc-V.

Some duels are fucking great because of the animation and quality thrown into it, along with the faces made by certain characters, you know the face.

But overall, Zexal didn't beat around the bush as much as Arc-V did.

Good night, based ASGanon.
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>>159685194
>check grave 10 times a turn
>lost to Madolche
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>>159685194
>win worlds
>twice

I want to be first non-Asian to win worlds and I will do it if I figure these event organizing shit out sooner.
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>>159685320
Every fucker does that at locals, regionals, and YCS'.

I attended my first Regionals in San Jose this year with DM and was 5/2/0 but hunger got to me and I quit early because I was retarded and brought only Chips Ahoy and Dr. Pepper.

I lost to a mirror match where I misplayed because I forgot what Chocolate did and lost to a Kozmo Demise shitter because I didn't know Demise prevented battle damage.

In every game every fucker would ask "Can I check your grave?" like five times and ask "How many backrow?" like four times before doing anything and then proceeding to scoop for game 2 or forfeit.
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>>159685371
>I want to be first non-Asian to win worlds
You're extremely too late for that
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>>159685320
To be fair, he was misplaying hard throughout G2 and G3.
He should have used Wingblast earlier and not held on to the Effect Veiler for so long.
It's to be expected when Madolches haven't been uses for like 3/4 years over in the OCG, he didn't know how to play against them.
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>>159685661
Fuck. Explain more, love.
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>>159685663
I heard somewhere that he mained Madolches before?

I am quite certain he lost because it brought him back and he had a whole nostalgia trip like the soft Asian he is.
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>>159680420
>Fusions require 3 cards (min)
fusion needs 1 card at minimum, mats can come from anywhere, deck or grave circumventing all their issues.

>Ritual requires 3 cards (min)
ritual needs 2 at minimum because even if we have ritual-summon-from-grave and banish-from-grave or tribute-from-extra/deck, we still have no true 1-card ritual summon.

synchro still needs 2 or more cards but we've gotten many cards that can synchro summon with one card, some even without setup.

xyz now gets a full archetype of 1-card xyz summons on top of many 1-card xyz summon, plenty without setup, which has proven to be absolutely stupid and retarded.

pendulums don't really count, for this analysis.
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>>159685912
>many 1-card xyz summon
Other than Solitaire summon Unizombie, is there other 1-card Xyz?
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>>159686067
Molmorat is a one-card 2 xyz summons

Tour Guide

Terrortop

Evil Thorn

Rescue Rabbit
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So, the Speedroid pendulums are Scale 3,4, and 8, counting Fast Dragon. Those are some atrocious scales for the archetype.
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>>159683727
never ever

>>159684386
>>159682961

>tfw you're not the only GV poster here
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>>159685234
Fairy Tales are obnoxious, but I'm going with the Dark or Water because I'm either going to build Nine Tails or Sol when the next set hits.
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>Red-eyes has a 1 card fusion spell
>Dark Magician has a 1 card xyz trap which also banishes if Circle is on the field
>Blue-eyes doesn't have any 1 card synchro plays
Wow, such equality and fairness Konami.
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>>159686354
you know that passing Rider has an effect that setups Double Yoyo, Ohajikid and plenty of Speedroid support, right?
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>>159686497
soul charge is a 1 card synchro :^)
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>>159686471
everyone was shitting on and saying water was garbage
id go with dark since it seemed to have some strength`
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>>159676023
Hopefully never.
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>>159686176
>a total of 6
>2 is limited, 2 is irrelevant, the last 2 is very, very splashable
Based on track record, I don't think including 1-card Xyz into the analysis is fair.

And Nekroz technically have a 1-card ritual, but only if you have Djinn in grave.
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>>159685371
Already been done plenty of times.
Try being the first Amerifat, they're the only country shit enough still to not get one yet.

Hell, even Central America and Canada pulled a worlds before the U.S.
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Post some fakes /dng/
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>>159686497
>Dark Magician has a 1 card xyz trap
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>>159687017
Used to have this one.
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>>159687017
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Classic.
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>>159684984
imo take out the 3 twisters for chaos hunters
trade 1 kaiju for another twin twister
or get rid of the deck viruses
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Can i fusion Archfiend Black Skull Dragon with red-eyes and B. Skull Dragon? or does it have to be from the main deck? If so what arcfiend is even worth running
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>>159686748
That monkey that's a buffed Rasputin will be fun with Adombrali. Between the monkey and Alice's Little Scout, an Incarnation of it will usually plus in card advantage while netting burn damage on the side. The water deck is kinda underwhelming right now, but Sol will tie together the water Ancient Magics with the fire Ancient Magics, allowing for more options and flexibility.
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>>159687761
there are only 2 valid targets for the fusion spell

Run 2 Summoned SKull
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>>159687873
man i feel like they deiberatly made red eyes shit
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>>159687761
is B. Skull Dragon level 6 or a normal monster

has anything ever said "the deck" and meant the extra deck
>>159687873
the spell actually can use targets on the field, so you can use the SS gemini.

he should be not using the archfiend fusion at all, and should be using the meteor black dragon fusion, however
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>>159687761
Run 1 Summoned Skull at most. Meteor is a better fusion monster in general - it has higher ATK, burns, mills, and floats.
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>>159688060
dont forget its level 8 so it can be revived with return of the dragon lords
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>>159687165
>darkly big rabbi
Holy shit am I laffinj
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>>159687989
using the gemini is even worse

but yeah, I agree that he should be using only Meteor Dragon
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>>159683636
>Dag Daggerman
>Yusho stabs Yuya in the back
deepest lore
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So this is more or less how overlaying works right?
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>>159687989
>has anything ever said "the deck" and meant the extra deck
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>>159686934
that's only the ones that need no setup, including things that need setup you have things that special summon from grave like altair, wolfbark, norden, etc. and everything that special summons multiple monsters like bujincarnation, rekindling, soul charge, etc.

i mean, there's a bunch of shit that with setup can 1-card xyz/synchro summon, kinka-byo, swap frog, superbia, etc. while ritual only has cycle/claus with djinn in grave and pre-preps esprit with mats in grave.

there's also galaxy worm and diva for no setup 1-card xyz summon, and every single zodiac beast can 1-card xyz summon into their own stuff or into anything with a rat in grave.
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>>159688545
Some prefer a more sexual connotation, but I suppose that works
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>>159688545
c-cute!
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>>159688749
Most of those 1-card Xyz with setup can also be a 1-card Synchro though.
And tuner in general have way to summon their material from grave, so if you include those 1-card summon with setup, synchro should have more way to do it than Xyz.

And just to throw this, Terror is also a 1-card synchro, and Rat is a 1-card level 5, 6, 10, or 11 synchro.
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>>159689240
I can never see Beatrice on Dante as anything other than him having a facesitting fetish.
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How many matches in a week should I play if I want to be good?
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>>159689556
It's funny because their actual relationship was more akin to cuckoldry than anything else
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>>159689568
You're asking the wrong place. this place is casual-scubshit central.
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this guy slaps you GFs ass while he has all 5 pieces of Exodia in the graveyard with obliterate!!! on the field with him, what do you do?
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>>159690513
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>>159690513
I summon literally anything that can get to 5K or higher on its own because obliterate is dead
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I commisioned hentai art of Madolche arts.

Am I going to yugioh hell?
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>>159689568
but people here aren't good.....
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>>159690923
he also has 2 more copies of himself + contract with exodia and Exodia necross in his deck. Obliterate is very much alive
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>>159691002
That all depends on what you commissioned
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>>159691002
no, heaven
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>>159690513
>summon wyvern search box search gadget
>power bond with some other gear on hand
>overload fusion with all the gears in grave
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>>159691093
I guess I summon Gameciel then.
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>>159687427
Would this look better?
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>>159690513
;)
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>>159691292
oof much better, don't forget to add ABC for cherries
gl anon
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>>159691315
better have a spellcaster ready :^)
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>>159691292
btw i forgot to show you mines, your build is really close to mines so you should be alright
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>>159691617
chain MST
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>>159690513
Tune Glow-Up Bulb, Chiwen, and Denglong to Bixi to summon a Trap-immune Glyongandr to banish all four of Exodia's limbs from the grave, reducing him to 1000 ATK, then Denglong summons Zefraniu. I banish Glow-Up Bulb to revive Spore, and Synchro Summon Baxia, who shuffles either some other backrow Exodia's got, or his iconic trap if nothing else. Baxia destroys Glyongandr to revive Spore again, and Glyongandr revives the banished Left Leg of the Forbidden One. Level Eater revives off of Baxia, and I Synchro for Trishula to secure another card from hand/field removed and banish Exodia's head from the grave, leaving him powerless. Then, I proceed to kick Exodia's ass with his own foot.
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>>159691002
You'll go to heaven as long as it contains Magileine footjobs and Puddingcess pee
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>>159691617
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
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>>159691617
Untargetable as well ;)
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>>159692226
whats under card #2?
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>>159692419
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>>159692637
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>更新停止のお知らせ

whyyyyyyyyy
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>>159692637
Miss this card.
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I want to walk in on Pretty Heroine while she changes.
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>>159692726
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>>159692972
I want her to make my dark ruler rise
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>>159693042
>falling for the Chain meme
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>>159693238
>being predictable
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>>159693339
right back at ya
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>>159693339
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>>159693808
>chaining a non-counter trap to a counter trap
judge
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>>159693597

>>159693808
>chaining a Normal Trap to a Counter Trap

More like Shunned.
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>>159693808
>trap stun to a counter

JUUUUUUUDDDGEEEEEE!!!
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>>159693894
>>159693910
>>159693943
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>>159693910
>reading
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>>159694126
>obliterate
>solemn warning
>dark bribe
>vanity's call
>counter counter

Did you, by chance, activate that from your hand, anon?
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>>159694374
thats not mine i only used those first 4 not counter counter someone else did counter counter
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>>159694126
>>159695004
Since when did we get 6 spell and trap card zones?
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>>159695004
>Glad Beasts in Exodia
>Negating a Spell Card

Good job. :)
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>>159694126
fuck your shit I said no

>>159695153
Temple of Kings
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>>159693339
>>159693597
I don't understand.
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>>159695004
>>159695229
>gladiator beats
please dont butt in on my exodia stuff
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>>159695229
>temple of the kings
You might want to read the card.
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TAGS WHEN
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Chain link deck where
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>>159695426
like 20~30 posts above you, in a chain.
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>>159695349
TAGS NEVER
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>>159695349
host them and ill join
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>>159695229
>activating other 5 traps despite having Obliterate!!! on the field
>doesn't know how Temple of the King works

So Exodiafags were all Shun players all along.
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>>159695254
Holy shit, I had to check to make sure this was real at one point in time.
Bravo Konami.
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>>159695676
not him but I'm hosting.

USA server
/dng/
the usual pass
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>>159695678
>implying thats me
thats guys a retard who came into the chain to late and didnt read up
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Need two more to start the tag
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>>159695229
>not discarding Makyura for Destruction Jammer
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Are tags over?
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>US server
>no Blue-eyes, Dark magician, Pendulum or QUASAR
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>>159697009
they are up again
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Requires 3 Tributes to Normal Summon/Set. This card's Normal Summon cannot be negated. When this card is Summoned, cards and effects of Spell/Trap/non-DIVINE Monster Cards cannot be activated. Spell/Monster Card effects affect this card only until the End Phase but this card cannot be destroyed or sent to the Hand due to Spell/Monster Card effects. Trap Cards cannot affect this card directly except for altering the Attack/Defense of this card or for preventing this card from attacking only until the End Phase. Control of this card cannot switch. During the End Phase when this card is Special Summoned, return this card to where it was Special Summoned from except from the Hand. This card has an Instant Attack effect which allows it to attack during the turn it has been Special Summoned, regardless of the situation. When this card is Special Summoned, it can only activate one effect. If this card is Special Summoned in face-up Defense Position when an opponent's monster declares an attack, that attack would target this card instead. If this card is Special Summoned in face-up Defense Position when monster(s) on your side of the field would be affected by a card effect, that effect will affect this card instead. Your opponent cannot Tribute this card. This card is unaffected by the effects of Obelisk the Tormentor and Slifer the Sky Dragon due to its Hierarchy. When this card is Normal Summoned, its original ATK and DEF become the total respective ATK and DEF of the Tributed monsters. You can activate One Turn Kill effect by paying all but 1 of your Life Points to increase this card’s ATK and DEF by the total Life Points you paid. You can also Tribute all other monsters you control to increase this card’s ATK and DEF by the total ATK and DEF of the Tributed monsters respectively. Then, this card can attack all monsters your opponent controls once each and if your opponent controls no monsters anymore, it can attack your opponent directly.
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>>159697449
If De-Fusion is used on this card, this card's attack will be negated (if this card is attacking) and the attack of this card will decrease to 0 and your life points will increase by the amount of this card's ATK. You can activate God Phoenix effect by paying 1000 Life Points to attack and destroy all monsters your opponent controls including Obelisk the Tormentor and Slifer the Sky Dragon if this card was Special Summoned. God Phoenix will not be destroyed by card effects/cannot be destroyed by battle and the controller will not receive battle damage.

Can anything in the current TCG/OCG card pool defeat anime Ra by itself? You can't even Kaiju it
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>>159697559
summon kuriboh activate Share the Pain
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>>159697449
>>159697559
Ra's face when he loses to a furry holding a meme shield
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>>159697449
>>159697559
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>>159698204
>what is God Phoenix
>>159698224
there were no effects that returned to the deck when Ra was created, so I bet that the mofo also prevents himself from being returned to deck
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>>159697449
>>159697559
I thought this was a fucking CaC
the anime was a mistake
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>>159698204
>guy uses it in DM to fetch Wonder Wand by using dead Circles

Fucking innovative Japs.
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>oh this hand looks decent
>guy summons 2 omni negators and sets 4 solemns.

Can they hurry up and hit strike to push barrier the lesser of the two evils.
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>>159697449
a direct attacker should be able to defeat the user therefore defeating Ra
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>>159697449
>This card is unaffected by the effects of Obelisk the Tormentor and Slifer the Sky Dragon due to its Hierarchy.
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>>159697449
>>159697559
am i retarded? i don't see why couldn't you just kaiju it.
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>>159699231
>your opponent cannot tribute this card

It literally says so on the fucking card
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>>159699231
>Your opponent cannot Tribute this card.
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>>159699291
>It literally says so on the fucking card
???
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>>159699291
>>159699363
ah fuck, i saw it now. fucking wall of text.
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>>159699427
>posting the nerfed piece of shit that is IRL Winged Dragon of Ra
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>>159699427
for real, is there any nerf more infuriating than Winged Dragon of Ra? He went from the most powerful monster on the entire YGO game and even being Kaiju-proof fucking 15 years ago to being a shitty monster that can't even use both of its effects
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>>159698378
>I bet that the mofo also prevents himself from being returned to deck
Then what's the point, numbnuts?
>Here's how you can kill Ra
>Well, that should work, except I bet it wouldn't work.
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>>159699852
ok then
Judging by what happened with Soul Taker, if something were to take away Ra from field it will still return to the field at the end phase
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>>159697449
>>159697559
how about swords of concealing light/book of eclipse and literally anything else, preferably something like pirmais that returns to the deck while facedown or psyframe overload which banishes face down?
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>>159700082
>Field? What Field?
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>>159693910
what got deleted?
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>>159700349
>Trap Cards cannot affect this card directly except for altering the Attack/Defense of this card or for preventing this card from attacking only until the End Phase

combos are legit, but my point was if there was anything able to defeat Ra by itself alone
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>>159700440
destruction jammer
who knows why
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>>159699680
well he was sort of buffed with immortal and sphere (although fuck sphere since it cant ss from grave, making the loop meh).

"The winged dragon of ra - DIVINE form" when?

better effect and "this card is always treated as the winged dragon of ra" when?
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>>159700540
Eclipse is no Trap.
And only God Phoenix is immune to battle destruction. So if you insist on one single card, there's Goodwitch.
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>>159700540
There is, but you will recur to
>Doesn't work because I say so.
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>>159700540
If my reading coprehension is right, either D.D Warrior Lady, D.D. Assailant and the other D.D.kiddo can remove it from play but I'm unsure if it stays removed or if if it returns during the end phase
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>>159700980
>Spell/Monster Card effects affect this card only until the End Phase
It should return.
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>>159700938
he was talking about Psyframe Overload, I told you that combos would work
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>>159700965
we already talked about how monster effects will only get Ra out of field for one turn and that isn't an ass pull or because I say so, it's literally on the monster effect

I want something that gets it out of comission by itself alone
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>>159700540
Petdek-ing Ghostricks has taught me that "can it be set" can get by a lot

>>159700938
BoM to 3 wheeeeeen
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>>159701087
Well, then here's the card that can defeat Ra by itself alone.
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>>159701213
... you're forgotting that Ra attack increasing and defense increasing effects are quick effects
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>>159701289
>You can activate One Turn Kill effect by paying all but 1 of your Life Points to increase this card’s ATK and DEF by the total Life Points you paid.
>You can also Tribute all other monsters you control to increase this card’s ATK and DEF by the total ATK and DEF of the Tributed monsters respectively.
Nope, no during either player's turn clause.
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Is there anything more bullshit than anime Ra? Hard mode: no draw cards
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>>159701434
heart of the cards
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>>159701498
Alternate win conditions were a mistake
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>>159701434
>Your opponent must pay this card's maintenance cost.
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>>159701369
>no during either player's turn clause
there's no need for that clause because on the anime/manga you can use Ra effects either turn, as demonstrated here http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!_-_Episode_139

unless it doesn't count because you say so
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>>159701610
no worries, im running darkworld
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can't towers kill ra?
it's it's owner the one sending it to the graveyard as a resolution of an effect, not the effect of the monster actually doing it.
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>>159701613
I can't see anything wrong with what I said.
He uses it in his turn before BP.
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>>159701761
is this fucking bait?

>Turn 6: Yami Yugi
Yami Marik has just managed to Special Summon "The Winged Dragon of Ra" in Phoenix Mode. Since a monster was summoned on Yami Marik's side of the field, the second mouth effect of "Slifer the Sky Dragon"' activates, which would lower the ATK of "The Winged Dragon of Ra" by 2000, but it doesn't work as the second mouth effect of "Slifer the Sky Dragon" can't affect "The Winged Dragon of Ra" while it's in Phoenix Mode.

Yami Marik then activates "The Winged Dragon of Ra's" effect to pay 1000 Life Points (Marik 4000 → 3000) to attack and destroy "Slifer the Sky Dragon". "The Winged Dragon of Ra" then returns to Marik's Graveyard. Yami Marik then activates his face-down "Zombie's Jewel" to add "Monster Reborn" from Yugi's Graveyard to his hand and allow Yami Yugi to draw a card (Aside from "Monster Reborn", Yami Marik's hand is shown to contain "Bait Doll" and "Mask of Remnants".) Without looking at it, Yami Yugi sets the card he drew (NOTE: Ishizu mentally reveals the card is "Fiend's Sanctuary", the card Seto gave Yugi before the Duel started.)

HE'S FUCKING USING RA EFFECTS ON YUGI TURN
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>>159701739
I think you can make them send Ra to the grave, but it'll just come back during the end phase. Towers to 3 when?
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>>159701829
God Phoenix effect, which activates when Ra is special summoned.
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>>159701739
>not the effect of the monster actually doing it
Tight helmet, hum?
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>>159701859
why is it banned? ocg has it at 3
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>>159701938
Tewart forgot about it
Same with Construct and tons of other cards
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>>159670305
WIND-LIGHT-FIRE
EARTH-DIVINE(?)-WATER
NON ELEMENTAL-???-DARK
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>>159701935
>When the "Once per turn: You can make your opponent send 1 monster from their hand or their side of the field to the Graveyard (their choice)." effect resolves, your opponent must send 1 monster from their hand or their side of the field to the Graveyard. If they send "Shaddoll Falco" to the Graveyard, since it is not treated as being sent to the Graveyard by a card effect, the "If this card is sent to the Graveyard by a card effect: You can Special Summon this card from your Graveyard in face-down Defense Position." effect cannot be activated.[4]
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>>159701829
>You can activate God Phoenix effect [...] if this card was Special Summoned.
Here's the effect.
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>>159701886
>Turn 6: Franz
Franz draws. He then pays 1000 Life Points (Franz 2200 → 1200) to transform "Ra" into its "Egyptian God Phoenix" mode and destroy all of Jaden's monsters. Franz then activates the Point-to-Point Transfer effect of "Ra", reducing his Life Points to 1 (Franz 1200 → 1) and adding those points to the ATK and DEF of "Ra" ("The Winged Dragon of Ra": 3300 → 4499/1800 → 2999) while also merging himself with "Ra". "Ra" attacks directly, but Jaden activates the second effect of "Damage Off Zone" to halve his Life Points (Jaden 1800 → 900) and reduce the Battle Damage he takes to 0 by send "Damage Off Zone" to the Graveyard. Franz Sets a card.

>http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!_GX_-_Episode_085

Ra can use God Phoenix when normal summoned, but Marik literally only tribute summoned Ra one time, because it's much easier to special summon it
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>>159702023
see
>>159702025

>>159701739
>>159701859
and yeah, Towers should be able to kill anime Ra, nice
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>>159701859
it's not being send by a card effect so "Spell/Monster Card effects affect this card only until the End Phase but this card cannot be destroyed or sent to the Hand due to Spell/Monster Card effects." this crap wouldn't even matter.


>>159702019
source on this ruling, http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=13408&request_locale=ja
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>>159702025
Well, the God Phoenix should be
>You can activate God Phoenix effect [...] if this card was Summoned.
then.
I still can't see any indication that Point-to-Point Transfer effect or One Turn Kill effect is SS2 since even in that example Franz use it in his turn before BP.
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>Towers can kill anime Ra

Holy shit, the power creep

Then again, if the Ra player has literally any other monster Towers can't do shit right?
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Why Qliphort and Shaddoll faggots cry about their cards every fucking thread?
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>>159702249
Yep, that's the sad reality of Towers.
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>>159702249
right, specially if they have a monster on hand.

but this guy wanted a 1v1 scenario, so if the other guy has other shit in hand, you might as well just put it face down and do whatever the fuck you want with it.
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>>159702249
towers can do shit to that monster, and then probably get run over
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>>159702124
God Phoenix effect =/= ATK change effect.
Kozmo Goodwitch can kill Ra by itself then.
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GGs guys
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>>159702338
and so can fairy tail snow, tsukuyomi, raideen, etc.
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I lost because Strike negated my sole comeback play which clearly means it's a broken card that deserves to be limited.

Or something like that.
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Dakini can also do the same thing. Or Ferret Flames.
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>>159702338
>>159702415
Winged Dragon of Ra can activate God Phoenix when attacked even if facedown

>http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Egyptian_God_Phoenix
>When this card battles, you can pay 1000 Life Points to destroy the monster this card is battling
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>>159702473
Strike doesn't seem like a card that would be unlimited, considering Warning and BTH.

Guess Pendulums are a bigger cancer, so may as well allow it.
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>>159702327
trying to run over Ra in battle is futile, so yeah, Towers should be able to send it to grave and kill it

Bless player affecting effects
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>>159702652
>pendulums are a big cancer
No, they've been banned to hell and back already. Strike is just to slow down the game some.
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Just use Crystal Wing on Ra.
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>>159702494
>Ferret Flames
I fucking hate this card.
There's people using it in HERO and it wipes my fucking field.
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>>159702652
We have ASF at 3 already and that instakills pendulum cancer anyway. Strike accomplishes too much for only 1500lp cost at 3 and I think we should have a 1-1-1 on the solemn brigade (one judgment/warning/strike - scolding is fine as the cost is much higher).

Judgment should come back like in the OCG since the game has sped up considerably so cutting your life points by close to 4k for one negation (and it does not negate monster effects like strike) is not as bad as the flood of omni-negators we have now if it as one (more than one would definitely be too much).
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>>159702338
The power of the Force understimate you must not
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What did he mean by this?
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>>159702617
oh, yeah, and inb4
>it still gets destroyed by battle durr hurr

God Phoenix specifically makes it so Ra can't be destroyed by battle and you don't take any battle damage when it's involved in battle

>>159702494
those 2 can work too

is there any other card that makes the player send something to grave?
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>>159702617
That's God Phoenix.
Ra can only become God Phoenix of you activates the God Phoenix effect when its SS'd, and only until EP.
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>>159702994
He didn't need it.
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>>159702994
>quag
he's a big shit
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>>159703029
>when it's ss'ed
I thought this was already covered, holy shit, see >>159702025

>and only until EP
so what? It's still not getting defeated by any monster that flip it facedown because the moment it gets attacked it goes God Phoenix on your ass and it destroys the monster

Dakini, Towers and Ferret Flames can defeat Ra
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since /tg/ doesn't play anything besides MtG.

>haven't played YGO in years.
>decided to make a performapals/entemate deck.
>I play with a friend locally for fun.

Should I just buy a few of the Yuya starters or
something? Is there going to be a Yuya collection or something like that coming soon? If not what set has the best performapals/entemate support?
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>>159703120
>the moment it gets attacked it goes God Phoenix
You can't activates God Phoenix unless Ra is summoned.
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>>159699012
>Basic derivatives and indefinite integrals
>Middle school level geometry
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>>159703261
>source: your ass
I provided links and specific situations to demonstrate why Ra is able to do the shit it can

and you go "nuh, huh, it can't because I say so". Just accept that you were wrong, holy shit.
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>>159703120
it cannot remember it was god mode after being facedown, that's just not how this game works.
when attacking a face-down ra the game state resets it to flipped face-up, not flipped summoned or tribute summoned or special summoned or anything else.
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>>159703120
You can't activates anything that isn't related to ATK/DEF changing in damage step.
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>>159703202
>performapals/entemate
>fun
they killed it off because how cancerous it is
OEPD-magis come from that with more soon
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>>159703202
Pendulum Magicians apparently will receive support in the next special pack after Fusion Enforcers, but that will take a while.
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>>159703202
You should probably buy three copies of a Structure Deck to get the best cards out of them to get started. If you can wait until January (and Tewart gives us all the D/Ds) you can get Pendulum Domination which was disgustingly over-powered in the OCG until better engines arrived, but if Tewart Jews us Rise of the True Dragons can give you a gimped Blue-Eyes deck which runs on auto-pilot.
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>>159703332
And I said because the effect is
>You can activate God Phoenix effect [...] if this card was Summoned.
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>>159703362
My bad. Not in the next special pack, in the next structure deck.
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>>159703340
God Phoenix says "when this card battles an opponent's monster". Unless you're not battling a monster on the damage calculation, of course.
>>159703427
and I already posted evidence that Ra can use God Phoenix any fucking time it wants
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>>159703202
buy 2 of the ones with Oafdragon, Dragonpit and the rest of the Magician pendulums, it's the one with the Odd-Dragon Synchro and Xyz in the cover and two copies of common Eccentrik Archfiends
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Treatoad is some bullshit.
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>>159703202
If you want to play Performapals, I'd recomment picking up 3 of the "Master of Pendulum" structure, as Skullcrobat Joker is very important and the Magicians and Odd-Eyes hold synergy with the Performapals over a few cards. Then, pick up 3 of the Yugi Mega Tin - it has Pendulum Sorcerer (the best 'pal) and a few packs that might get you some staples and/or a beginning for another deck.
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>>159703528
treatoads just one of those cards thats so splashable and bs you just wanna quit till next format
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>>159703528
Treatoad is toadally awesome.
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>>159703481
But Ra isn't on God Phoenix mode when face-down.
And you can't change it to God Phoenix on damage step.

>I already posted evidence that Ra can use God Phoenix any fucking time it wants
On summon only. That's what your evidence said.
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>>159703481
Here's some evidence that Ra in fact can't use God Phoenix on either player's turn.
>"Glow Moss" then attacks and destroys "Ra" (Franz 4500 → 4200)
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!_GX_-_Episode_085
Franz didn't use God Phoenix effect nor the attack changing effect.
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>>159703751
Wait, I mean, whenever it wants.
It can use it on either player's turn if Ra is SS'd on opponent's turn.
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>>159703481
face-down monsters are flipped face up during the damage step, "when this card battles" effects happen during the battle step and that that point ra would still be face-down.
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>>159703609
餅カエルはトーだりーあーサムだ。
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Impact Call!
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THIS HAND OF MINE...!
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>>159704879
...IS BURNING RED!
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>>159698378
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>>159704879
>>159705016
Go away RD4.
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>>159705152
Literally whooooo
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>>159705185
tripfag that has been around a while

he's been known to reply to himself
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>>159705059
I ACTIVATE MY HIDDEN EFFECT OF RA, DOMAIN MODE
ALL MONSTERS FROM THE OPPONENT'S DECK TARGET THE PLAYER'S SOUL
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>>159705296
> targeting
that means its bad right?
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>>159705059
>Spell/Monster Card effects affect this card only until the End Phase
Ra will detach itself back to the field.
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>people getting butthurt when I use Second Coin Toss in a Saiou deck
>same people get butthurt when I rig the RNG so it always lands on heads when I don't use Second Coin Toss
There's no fucking pleasing these niggers, holy shit.
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>>159707507
shun.jpg
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https://ygorganization.com/ocg-07112016-ocg-japan-and-china-and-korea-decklists/

This meta is really diverse
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>>159709536
What can I say? That's the anime effect.
Yugi use Soul's Taker or whatever its name to sent Ra to grave but it comes back.
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>>159710478
Zodiac Beasts were a mistake. When I heard they were making cards based on the Chinese zodiac, I thought it would be a cool petdeck at best. Instead, we got another "play this or lose" deck.
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>get into Force of Will
>eventually see the power creep
>the meta cards
>it's no different from any other card game

Damn. I thought here would be a cheap and enjoyable card game that wouldn't be like anything else, yet here we are with this bullshit. I wish I could just play Vanguard, but it's too fucking expensive.

Anyone have a good Shion or Red Wizard deck? Something cheap but not complete trash.
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I hope they don't rarity bump the fuck out of the Darklord stuff when we get it.
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>>159711396
The powercreep is as bad as VG, I thought multiple people has said this already.
At least it's pretty cheap to get into.
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>>159712039
The powercreep might be just as strong but at least it feels like there's some kind of variety. FoW seems to be just like Yugioh in the sense that there are staples, like running 1-of that one card that destroys a J-Ruler.
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>>159711396
Having a card game without meta or power creep is actually impossible, I hope you realise this by now.
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I got into an argument today, can /dng/ help me settle it?

What is the difference between a stun card an a floodgate?
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>>159715812
One is a counter trap, one is a continuous effect
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>>159715961
>One is a counter trap
If you're counting cards like Solemn Judgement as stun cards, then what is a control card?
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>>159716010
Stun is Trap Stun.
Floodgate is Royal Decree.

Stun is Breakthrough Skill.
Floodgate is Breakthrough Skill.

Stun is Dimensional Prison.
Floodgate is Vanity's Emptiness.
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>>159716010
Control is a combination of floodgate and stun
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>>159716154
Fuck it, can someone here just post some definitions of control, stun, and floodgate? Either I've got it all backwards or one of us doesn't know what they're talking about.

Is it at least true that all floodgates are stun cards, but not all stun cards are floodgates? I think we can agree on that.
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Why do you faggots keep bumping the thread ?
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>>159716274
Floodgates are cards that stop your opponent from playing that are usually a continuous effect like anti spell and vanitys
Control decks let your opponent play to some extent but let you pick what they can and can't do, cards like kirin and solemns fall here.
Stun decks are just fuck you no fun allowed like barrier statues. Stun decks use more floodgates and often use stuff like demise compared to control
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>>159716283
Fuck off tripfag
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>>159716459
This I agree with, but with those definitions I can't see any meaningful distinction between a floodgate card and a stun card.
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>>159716010
Control is a deck arche
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>>159716531
Stun stops your opponent from making 1 play
Floodgates stop your opponent from making any plays
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Just got broken up with, give me a deck to ploay around with.
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Fuck it, I'm going to start making a thread on /tg/ until it stays.
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>>159716596
>Stun stops your opponent from making 1 play
Then what's a control card?

That's really the problem here, I can't seem to find a definition of 'stun card' and a definition of 'floodgate card' that doesn't get in the way of a definition of 'control card'.
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>>159716779
There are no control cards
Control is a style of play that uses stun and floodgate cards.
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>>159668769
TCG and OCG need to stop being separate, even with just set releases. Magic is just one game and I haven't heard any complaints about US, Euro and JP players being able to play at the same events with no problems.

There also isn't bullshit 'translation' stuff in the US. Just call a judge and they'll get the text from their database.
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Why are all of the high skills decks except for DDD degenerate?

Synchrons/Junk Dopple/Quasar Turbo - touchmyself.dek, your opponent will either fall asleep while you combo, or just scoop when he sees 3 Quasars. It's honestly no better than Exodia FTK.
PSY-Frames - I won't let you play YGO.dek
Rock Stun - You literally can't play YGO.dek

Seriously - name one high skill deck that isn't degenerate, I fucking dare you.
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>>159688597
That doesn't mean the Extra Deck in the same way Compulsory Evacuation Device saying 'hand' means Extra Deck. Fusions, Synchros and Xyz can't exist in the Deck, so they're instead returned to the Extra Deck due to game mechanics, like how Pendulums go to the Extra Deck from the field, or Equip Spells are destroyed when their monster is no longer face-up.
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>>159717540
OEM. Although it lost some consistency due to the banlist
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>>159701723
I can't read weeb but Dark Worlds don't work off of maintenance costs.
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>>159717921
Why must both Pendulum Call and Insight be limited? Why must Ignister be limited? I just want to play OEM.
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>>159714714
Only if it's eternal. Magic's Standard is pretty weak.
It's impossible without meta because even if people are running Jinzo, Summoned Skull becomes a good meta pick. A rotating format generally allows for a pretty flat power level
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Please post here
>>>/tg/50158938
I want to prove /tg/ wrong and show them that we can have a good Yugioh thread.
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>>159718079
>Yugioh
>good
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>>159717540
What do you mean by high skill? Do you mean easy to mess up? The strengths of the best decks are that you can make suboptimal plays against worse opponent's and still win.

ABC, Nekroz, Dragon Ruler, all of these aren't without skill and the mirrors are incredibly skillful but the deck gets easy wins against bad decks. Every time I play PSY-Frames I have to work really hard to win, even if my opponent is playing a bad deck.
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>>159718026
Due to Dracopals
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>>159718216
DracoPal didn't run Pendulum Call or Insight
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>>159717739
>how Pendulums go to the Extra Deck from the field
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>>159718284
When they would otherwise go to grave. I thought Yugioh players knew the fucking rules.Guess not, this is shitty DNG and DN was fucking cancer.
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>>159645117
Go back to >>>/tg/ magicfag
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>>159719075
you're just upset that Konami's handling of the better of the two games magic and ygo sucks compared to WotC. I am.
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If I want to play Monarchs, is Domain my best bet?
Also are Six Samurai any good, clearly not meta, but I played them a bit a good few years ago and I liked them, so I wouldn't mind playing them again.
Also if anyone has any lists for either that would be appreciated
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>>159719348
If you want to play Monarchs your best bet is a time machine.
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>>159719348
>6 Sam
Only if you like to lose.
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>>159719997
I figured.
>>159719748
I know they got hit, but I was under the impression they were still half decent
>>
Any fun decks you've started playing lately?
Paleozoic chain burn is neat.
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>>159721004
Just play this
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>>159721098
Was more thinking of playing irl, so can't exactly play a deck with the goddamn rat
>>159721067
List? That sounds fun
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>Wake up
>Zodiac Beasts now control %60 of meta.
I feel sorry for Nipponland.
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>>159718161
>What do you mean by high skill? Do you mean easy to mess up?
I suppose what I mean by skillful is that the deck is such that the way to reach the optimal result given the resources available to you is non-obvious at any given time.

For example, Synchrons have such a massive decision tree that any given hand probably has at least 10 good plays, but it takes a lot of skill to first know that those plays exists and second to know which play to make. Similarly, Psy-Frames are seen as high skills because they've always got many choices as to how and when to disrupt the opponent, but only a skillful player will be able to pick the best way to do it.

>ABC, Nekroz, Dragon Ruler, all of these aren't without skill and the mirrors are incredibly skillful but the deck gets easy wins against bad decks.
I won't debate that Dragon Rulers and Nekroz were high skill, many would go as far to argue that Dragon Rulers were the most skillful deck of all time. Otherwise, I'm a little behind the times so I can't comment on ABC but the biggest issue that I have with the other decks is just plain and simply that they're now unplayable due to the ban list (sadly DDD and ABC may even go down that road some day).
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>>159721345
>PSY-Frames

We either need an Omega reprint or a hit to Omega and a buffed version that's archetype restricted. I want to play these guys so bad, but the Extra Deck is a bit too expensive for me.
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>>159721863
Keep waiting Ice Barrier fampai.
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>there's only 2 D/D pendulum monsters with scales high enough to summon level 8 monsters, which are an important part of the deck
>one is okay, the other lowers its pendulum scale by two every turn and destroys everything above that
Why the fuck is this allowed?
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For the guys discussion Ra. Can't you just Share the Pain him? Or hell, use him with Super Poly for a Fusion Summon.
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>>159722387
You don't pendulum summon Abyss Ragnarok and Thomas, silly.
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>>159722540
Cannot be tributed.
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>>159722540
>Super Poly
For what? There is no generic Divine fusion monster.
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>>159722905
Why not?
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>>159723137
Because you don't use Kepler as a scale. You summon Thomas off of Swirl Slime and summon Abyss Ragnarok off of Thomas.
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>>159723273
fug
I've been trying it as a Pendulum Summon focused deck. My eyes have been opened. Thank you, anon.
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>>159712039
What this anon said, the powercreep in Vanguard is pretty strong, but at least if you stick with one of the good clans then you can always be somehow competitive if not meta already, also buying boxes is worth it.

>>159723405
>I've been trying it as a Pendulum Summon focused deck.
Just don't, D/D almost never make a P.Summon.
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>>159722994
>For what? There is no generic Divine fusion monster.
Metalfoes Crimsonite.
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By anime rules, you can probably use Super Poly to fuse Ra with yourself instead.
I mean, it was a card that could fuse dimensions, so it's totally solid logic.
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>>159724187
(or Adamante)

>>159724296
Fusing your soul with a God's? Not advisable, probably equivalent to shooting yourself mid-duel.
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post yfw there's no fire eidolon
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>>159724371
Um its a little biggoted to assume all of us identify as having a face. I know this is an imageboard but just because you CAN post images doesnt mean you need to. And actually assuming that i identify through a picture is ridiculous because you have completely generalized me as a certain type of poster when in fact i am a text poster. Furtheremore do you have any idea how many pointless data is spent on image hoarding? Statistics show that 90 percent of images are OC with 99 percent being posted less than 5 times. I feel like we as text posters need a little more representation. I mean this is called an imageboard but what about being called a Image & Textboard. Honestly i think 4chan is best when we work together. Please be more considerate next time you post.
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>>159724296
>fuse Ra with yourself
Ra's absorb LP effect is considered a fusion, since you can de-fuse it.
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>>159675203
When's the new Cobra anime coming out anyway?
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>>159718235
Then maybe because it would compete even more against the current meta. OEM with Majespecters is still a viable deck and all, if it had 3 calls and 3 insights, it would be consistent even without majespecters in it.
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r8 my crystal wing tunnel vision.dek

are my speedroid choices alright?

no i am not removing msf
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>>159725098
>tfw your girlfriend's deck can do what your deck is supposed to do, but with only 3 monsters and going +0

Do you have replays, bro?
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>>159721251
That's gonna happen to us as well my man, i can only hope that TT gets banned/limited before the cosplayers arrive.
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>>159725440
if i knew how to work a replay id sure record a few
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>>159724431
You're trying too hard.
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>>159725098
Why not use the new Speedroid Pendulums?
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>>159725663
not really had a look at them in action, so im not sure how to fit them in, any ideas?
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>>159725663
Because speedroids are literally Crystal Wing.dek
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>>159725779
>>159725804
Yeah, maybe it's better to wait a bit. Domino Butterfly's effect is:
Pendulum EffectYou cannot Pendulum Summon monsters, except WIND monsters. This effect cannot be negated. You can discard 1 WIND monster, then target 1 of your banished WIND monsters; add it to your hand. You can only use this effect of "Speedroid Domino Butterfly" once per turn.
Monster EffectCannot be used as a Synchro Material, except for the Synchro Summon of a WIND Dragon or Machine-Type Synchro Monster. If this card that was Special Summoned from the Extra Deck is used for a Synchro Summon, banish it.

But it doesnt seem useable yet
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>>159725986
>Synchro Summon of a WIND Dragon
Only Stardust and that Oriental Dragon are even usable with this. The rest is SS/Quasar and Dragunity
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Yo. Iv'e been thinking fo coming back to yugioh.
I remeber playing alot of spellbook before i quit around the end of 2013.
Any decks that can reteach me the fundementals of the game, and are not terrible atm? a friend told me i should try gadgets or lv10 trains, are they any good?
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>>159725663
yooo sempai
https://youtu.be/t-anf-xAJUE
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>>159726959
Odd-Eyes Magician will teach you synchro, fusion and xyz and with a few tweaks is viable in the meta. The side-deck would be expensive though, as it is in most of the decks
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>>159723679
I made a P.Summon once with D/D. My opponent was at 2000 and I was saving Raigeki. Topdecked desires, drew scales, played Raigeki, SS Ragnarock, win.
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How to make Blue-Eyes rage-quit:

Step 1: be at 500LP.
Sttep 2: use Tuning Magician to Scarlight and FUCK UP THIS MOTHERFUCKER!!!
...
Profit?
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>>159726891
and crystal wing, clear wing, fast clear wing...
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>>159726959
For srs, the rulebook.
For real plays, Metalfoes or ABC and just put in time with the deck(s) and practice. You'll git gud again.
Gadgets and trains are not great.
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>>159727032
Yay! Pick a waifu
>>159727245
I think he was joking
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>>159727306
Different guy, but are trains really not that good? Cause that was a deck I was thinking of getting
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>>159727482
Powercreep. Curent good decks are about stopping your opponent from playing or being able to survive that and run over him. Trains can do neither
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>>159727482
Maybe if they got another train Xyz that had a good effect. As it is, they're just spamming Dora, and while she's good she's not the end-all be-all.
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>>159727669
Dam, that was my main plan for a more competent deck, seeing as all I have irl right now is Lunalights.
What else is there that's not too expensive?
ABC is pretty cheap ain't it, but that doesn't really interest me, plus they look dreadful, especially when compared to the VWXYZ cards
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>>159651469 >>159651572
Oh, didn's saw that. Thanks

>>159727369
No.
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>>159728338

Metalfoes aren't too bad as long as you disregard things like crystal wing and pot. You can do fine with out either at a local level.
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>>159727369
>>159727245
I was referring to everything other than those two. There doesn't seem to be many, but I guess you don't need more now
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>We’re not playing a game of robot against robot, where the robots are unaffected by factors outside of game play.
Wtf, I like Hoban now
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>>159728336
They need a better way to R10NK instead for 1 Dora per turn.
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>>159728590
Pure or what? Don't even know if pure is a thing, if it was doesn't look like it would be too interesting though; they're mostly vanillas.
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>>159729205
That too.
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Let's say i want to build a deck,superheavy as an example, how do i choose which cards are the best and how many?
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>>159729462
For more competitive decks, you could look at the decks that win tournaments. For casual decks, like Superheavy, here's a general guideline:

Easy-use searchers: 3x
Conditional searchers: 2-3x
Themed draw: 2-3x
Terrible searchers: 1x
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Is trying to stuff Magicians into Odd-Eyes Dracopals a bad idea?

I just want magicians to be good again;_;
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>>159729348

Only list I have on hand is an old photo of mine irl.

You pretty much play every metalfoes monster and shove in good stuff that works well with them like Bunbuku/Kirin, goufu, jowgen.

They are vanillas but you can fuse them into effect monsters with your tutorarble recyclable fusion spells.

The deck is good so if you google it you'll find tons of more current lists to get a better idea of what it is than my half assed explanation.
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>>159729895
Might as well look into it. Wonder if Alkahest gets used, cause that is a really cool effect.
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>>159730174

You pretty much use all of their fusion monsters. Maybe less so Crimsonite in tcg because we don't have super poly but he does still have his uses.
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I don't know how price works. Which one push booster sales more, ban a card or limiting it?
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>>159729873
Just jam in Majespecters in OEM
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>>159719348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqpyJO7H5kk
There's this shit that you could maybe tweak and make better
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>>159731782
One would think limiting a card would push sales since it's easier to justify getting one expensive card rather than three.
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>>159731836
bunbuku is expensive, so no
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>>159732630
But Kyuubi isn't, and she searches the counter trap, and Oafdragon can be tributed for it
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>>159731782
You ban old good cards that don't help the shit you're shilling, and limit or do not touch old good cards that help the shit you're shilling, unless the shit you're shilling has an improved version, then you ban them.
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>>159732741
>traps
majespecters just don't seem worth it without raccoon anyway.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcGYok0MSMc
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>>159734204
Fuck it all the way from ass to mouth
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>>159734437
Why so upset?
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>>159734501
I dont like Bahamut Shark
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>>159731782
#freeconstruct

>>159734727
Vector, pls.
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>>159734727
Why though? It's not the one at fault here.
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>>159722387
This is late because I was asleep, but it's because it was the first pendulum released for D/D and it suffers the same fate as vanilla Utopia did in regards to Xyz (albeit vanilla Utopia is far better off) - They actually tried to give it a downside to balance the shiny new mechanic before saying 'fuck it' to all restrictions not too long after.
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>>159734850
Yeah, it's the Toad, but they kind of deserve a boss. Bahamut is what made it so overly exploitable.
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>>159734850
Do you consider CDI to be a problem card as well? Genuinely curious.
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>>159735668
What does that have to to with anything?
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>>159735749
Baha Shark/Treatoad being equal to the Ptolemaeus/CDI situation.
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>>159736828
Still not seeing it.
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>>159737049
>ptol gives wide-scale access to an omni-negator
>bahamut gives wide-scale access to an omni-negator
Come on, it's not hard.
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I have absolutely no problem summoning this, should I run at least 1?
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>>159737278
Yes.
But only if you shout CHOU HENSHIN when you summon him.
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>>159737049
Are you being daft on purpose?
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where did konami get this picture of me and my friends?
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How do I make a Masked HERO deck that uses more than Acid, Dark Law, and Anki?
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>>159737808
I'm afraid that people likes to be stupid on purpose
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>>159737120
Right.

>>159737808
It's generally not wise to respond seriously to blatantly obvious bait.
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>>159738234
You don't.
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how do I build a star dragon world deck
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>Mithrilium buyout
fuck this gay earth
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>Oscillation Break
>CaCtinuous Spell Card
>Pendulum Monsters in your opponents possession that would be placed face-up in their Extra Deck are sent to the Graveyard, instead.
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>>159729873
I think you meant MAKE MAGICIANS GREAT AGAIN
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Psst...

Hey, over here!

Hold on to this, it might come in handy some time soon...
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>>159739680
>wanting shit cards for cuck archetypes
You deserve it.
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>>159740462
>gemini

LEL
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>>159740335
this guy gets it.
I hear that this fella here is going to be OP soon, cannot wait to make a Performapal Turbo Fusion deck
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Any lvl 5 (discard a card to ss this card)?
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>>159740462
Frontline base is better, but is still bad even though unions are meta.
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>>159740987
have you never heard of the tricky before
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>>159741020
>unions are meta
ABC being meta does not equal unions being meta, retard
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>>159740987
Tricky and Quickdraw
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>>159741375
ABC is a deck that uses unions retard.
Since I said that unions are meta did I meant all 31 union monsters were meta?
If HEROs were meta, that wouldn't mean all HERO cards were automatically meta.
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>>159741020
Frontline base doesn't work on geminis tho
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>>159741675
Doesn't make unions meta, retard
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>>159741838
Who said it does?
ABC doesn't use it because it is SHIT, just as if there was a meta Gemini deck it probably would not use Herculean Power because there are much better options.
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>>159741932
>zodiac beasts aren't meta because they don't use all of their cards
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>>159742141
that's not what he said though

an archetype being meta isn't the same as an entire mechanic being meta
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Thread?
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>>159744150
>>159744150
>>159744150
new thread
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