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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>blobs
>grey pride station wide

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA [Embed]
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o [Embed]

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/u40ABfJz
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Hi i'm morena
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they were the raiders,
the treacherous vox
they didn't rock, i say
they were chicken pox!

they wanted to thief
all that the crew had obtained
they could have just left
but they gave us no say!

the first bird was nosy,
around space he slid
then came the miner shuttle
and the first bird was gibbed!

then all the birdies
with their magical ship
flew around space, but
didn't accomplish a bit!

the last bird was brave
but all on his own
he bust in the shuttle
but his face got blown!

and so they all failed
and at the end of the day
it's better to get a job
with Nanotrasen that pays!

repost for new thread yep yep shameless
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>Agent ID as manifested captain
>Voice Changer/Obscured face
>Orders borg to do something

You do it. No questions asked.
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I want Julia Brandt to digest me!
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reposting for all your centcomm pissing off needs

Let me list the reasons why poo is funny:
- Most poo is brown. Relatable.
- Most poo comes out your ass. Relatable.
- Most people poo. Relatable.
- Poo is not expected in space. Quirky.
- Poo can be thrown. Slapstick.
- Most creatures poo. Relatable.

I hope these reasons are enough to make you see the real humor in poo.
Honestly I think there is simply not ENOUGH poo in our station.
Poo is an everyday aspect of life, and should be incorporated into everything to do with life accordingly.

Here are some things I think would be better with more poo:
- Meday (Sometimes people get constipated and can't shit.)
- Janitors (I highly doubt that as a janitor, they do not run into large amounts of poo on a daily basis.)
- Security. (They're already shit, may as well add it to the department.)
- Toxins. (We simply do not see enough real time poo bomb simulations.)
- Ghetto Bar (The adult nature of the area means that poo would fit nicely into the atmosphere.)
- Any rag cage. (Not enough mid-fight pitstop shits.)
- Any R&D research. (Your research does NOT have enough shit in it. 0/10.)
- The Captain (>Implying the captain has enough poo.)
- You (Doctors say that atleast two shits a day is healthy. Hit that bathroom.)
- Department Game Night (I always said that shit flinging was a family friendly sport.)
- Atmospherics (Our air should be ATLEAST 10% poo. The clown is making progress, but they need our help.)
- The chef menu. (Slider? More like Shitter.)
- The solar system. (Uranus is a good start though.)
- The universe. (If every quark of my being was shit, I would be happy.)
- Everything in general. (Poo is just fucking great, aint it?)
I hope these reasons are enough to convince you that poo is a great thing, and there should be more of it.

With shitty regards,
- (Name)
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Protip:
To defeat the Creatine Demon, shoot at it until it dies.
The Creatine Demon cannot shoot back.
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Feature request: preset /me's
This would improve roleplay while also triggering the No-RPers, so it's a win-win
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>>159587253
Wouldn't that kill you?
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>>159587927
Right click the menu bar while in-game, select Macros.
Someone posted a pastebin a while ago showing Angelite had a /me smiles macro that he had used about 2000 times.
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>>159588164
>ight click the menu bar while in-game
Meant the title bar
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>>159587549
Protip: if you are an NTDefault borg
and a manifested captain orders you to do something
you do it without hesitation
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>>159588039
I'm gonna add to her plump thighs!
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>>159587253
I wanna have an eating competition with Chug, and then hit the bar afterward and compare our beer shits in the morning after I wake up wearing his pants
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>>159588540
chug is for frinking only
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>>159588540
I just wanna know Chug in real life. He's like the best friend you could ever have.
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>>159588857
>i want to know someone in real life that pretends to be a fat drunk retard in a ancient videogame
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>>159588517
but Julia is 5'6 and skinny...
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>>159588958
Yes.
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>>159589013
For now.
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>>159584820
>can't tell if I'm being baited or borg players really are this retarded
Oh, but they are! Most of them don't even know how to resist out of lockers.

Cyborgs are the game's First Order Optimal Strategy.
They give the most bang for your buck, provide you have only the minimum buck to give.

As a result, the new (or incompetent) valid lusters inevitably gravitate to borg..
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>>159589213
She will never get fat! She cares too much about herself.
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Tiny nets when?
>work similar to bolas, but handcuff as well as legcuff
>can only be thrown up to 2 tiles away
>metalsheet-sized
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>>159589381
I'm gonna care for her tenderly and overfeed her until she can't leave me.
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>>159589213
Julia is 5'6 and 312 anon. Fix this sprite, why do you think she's always hiding in the back of medbay eating the spare pizza and stealing donuts at the start of every round?
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>>159589213
I want to feed Julia mice until she's so full she can't move!
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>>159589828
Julia eats mice!

>>159589891
I'm gonna build a shrink ray and let her EAT ME or find someone willing to take her name and appearance and do the same!
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I bet Bill did this.
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Mediborg deployable surgery table when?

>A surgery table deploys from WILD-RIDE and anchors to the floor!
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The things you find while log diving :^)
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Hair dye was just merged, you can find it inside standard costume crates is you want to run around coloring everyone's hair.
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>tfw julia will never come up to the kitchen and hand them a bottle of clonex and blood begging for them to make her burgers
>tfw you will never see her then proceed to waddle into the bar and sit on a chair making it creak as she waits excitedly for her 30 burger meal
>tfw she won't guilt you into rubbing her fat stomach after he meal to make her feel better after stuffing herself

Why even live senpai?
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>>159589828
Nuhuh! 120lb at max!
>>159589820
Gross!
>>159589891
>>159589992
Not true! Mice are friends, not food!
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>>159590187
what'd you find baby
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>>159590241
>>159589992
>>159589891
>>159589828
Mods will ban you for this by the way. They'll say it's irrelevant to video games.
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>>159590351
My obese waifu julia is video games though! I want to feed her cake till she can't move
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>>159590351
It is relevant to the game in that it is something you can do in the game with a character from it
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>>159590179
You can already pack up the medical gurneys and they work 100% as well as a surgical table. Combine with a surgical switch tool and YOU TOO can do surgery on the go as a paramedic. Not that you ever will.

Not even once.
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>the atmos flamethrower at the end

Teach me your secrets.
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>>159586957
How do I have fun as QM?
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>it's a "second roboticist" round
>he's actually really good
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>>159591112
Consider yourself the ghetto captain of the ghetto station (cargonia) and make your department capable of doing everyone else's jobs because fuck them cargo is stronk
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>>159591131
wow, this flagrant meta OOC IC is pretty lame sawbones
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>>159590687
I've done so many surgeries now that i'll only bother doing them on-the-go as ghetto surgery with tools on a dirty table. It's a bit different.

I wish I still enjoyed being part of the wild ride.
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>>159590349
Yahir gets arrested for shittery. Metafriends Mai Pai and Surfer Girl harass his arresting officer. Surfer then gave Yahir a head role, and became a prisoner. Serwind was told, and didn't care, instead making simple jokes.
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>>159591668
god bless the autistic community we harbor
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>>159591471
>Vox Trader
>Syndie Agent breaks out of perma with his friend's help but he got fucked up earlier somehow
>Dragged him back to my base and into the O2 area, mixed up tricord from my medivend and healed him up enough to wake up
>He complains that he has a broken leg and can't stand
>We can autolathe print most of the tools, use a wrench in place of bone gel
>Patch up syndie, give him clothes from the mining locker and set him back loose on the station

Birb medicine
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>>159591668
honestly anybody who gains a friend from this game should be banned
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>>159591668
Banrequest it. Yahirs autistic faggotry has been put up with for too long.
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Suck-You-Busgamemode fucking when?
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>>159591769
isn't it great?
admins above reproach, and they'll make sure to defend their 'friends' that they play games with outside of space whenever they are in trouble.
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>>159591872
Did you at least get an emag or something as payment?
Either way, that was very nice of you
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>>159591950
Just go to medbay and talk up the girls there, most of them will follow you to dorms if asked
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>>159592007
I was actually a syndie too by random coincidence and just decided to heal him up so that he would cause some more havoc on the station. The extra confusion would give me cover to go lift the CE uniform later.
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>>159590251
I WILL FEED YOU LIVE MICE AND YOU WILL LIKE IT.
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>>159591950
>You are the Succubus!
Objective 1: Get hugged 48 times.
Objective 2: Suck the life-essence from Greyshit McGlubs.
Objective 3: Kill (female crewmember).

You are a space-succubus. Your powers increase by a small amount through physical contact with other lifeforms, but targeting the mouth of a human lying down with help intent active will allow you to kiss them and begin draining their essence!

Draining the essence of another lifeform will turn them into a shambling husk - a living, player-controlled husked form that must attack on sight. Powerful succubi can spend their power to transform a shambling husk into another succubi, enslaved to their will!

Succubi receive brute damage upon coming into contact with holy water, and quickly regenerate health whilst in the dorms.
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>>159592684
;Okay all greyshits to the dorms, it's confirmed succubus round so we're going to kick all of you and anyone who recovers quickly is getting spaced
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>>159592828
;Okay it's confirmed vamp, all crewmembers to the chapel, if you dont turn up and you're on the manifest you're getting spaced
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pomf if I beat your Jay Bauman looking ass in a texas cage match will you let someone port rollable sleeves
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>>159592946
reminder that termedclepe literally tried to pull this off during mid RP week
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>>159592684
Honestly I think it wouldn't be too hard to mod changelings into succubi. Would go well in servers like eros/vore. The mechanic is pretty much the same anyway: aggro grab someone, they're dragged under you, except instead of penetrating them with your proboscis it's the other way around. I guess it would be mostly text changes and making the abilities more like vampires'.
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I bet I can map Snow Station quicker than Celt.
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>>159594274
>>159594274 WHEN
>>159594274 YOU
>>159594274 CODE
>>159594274 IT
>>159594274
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>>159594274
can you fix 100 bugs quicker than him?
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What's your favorite thing to do after SMELELELELELE?
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>>159594359
I could learn how Byond code works, learn how to fix bugs, and then fix 100 bugs in the time it takes him to do another 3.
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>>159594607
Kill things with a mech
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>three fuckers teleport in
>front door gets fucking nuked

What was that bullshit
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thanks for trying to saving me medbay
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>>159594607
Go ghost and alt-tab to catch up on world news and change my music, or go for a short walk and get coffee and a joint
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>>159594607
Wonder why we haven't been fired yet
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>>159595618
>Joint

Weed is unironically a shit drug. Why even waste the money.
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What did the ERT do? I was in my office the entire time.
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>>159595593
Did you not get healed up
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>>159595705
ERT tried to go on station but since the console to the ert ferry is admin only i couldnt send it. I tried to ask the admins but to no avail
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>>159595727
I was pretty fucked up and spent most of that round in medbay, by the time I was healed up the borgs were tearing up medbay and killed the surgeon that patched me up. Bailed into disposals and then SMELELELE
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>>159595790
all you had to do was leave the lab
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>>159595672
not him but what the fuck do you think we are here? you think a space loser can afford to snort a line after every round?
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Every two months I log into a mine craft server. I dump all my problems onto one person who is kind enough to listen. They end up being robots though ,who say the same "comforting" thing over and over. Then I insult them a ton and they block me.

Sometimes it's irc servers. I worry one day I'll do it here.. I wish I could stop but I have No one to show emotion to in my real life.
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>>159595790
I tried my goddamn best
chemists can only do so much when they're floating in space
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>>159595863
Even a 2nd coffee is better than weed.

Weed is fun for maybe the first 15 minutes of being high, and then its utter shit, you spend the rest of the time wishing you had a functioning body.
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>>159595785
>>159595705
Every time I went to send it a new ERT member signed up and I went to brief them.

Also, you should be able to place a table under your fax machine by just using table parts on the same tile no?
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>>159595593
It was a damn long surgery.
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Coding a big change isn't very rewarding. It can take hours or even several days of coding to make something substantial.
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>>159595953
Nope, you can only place tables on tiles you're standing on, and you can't stand on the same table as the fax machine.
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>>159595953
>>159596042
Alt click the table so you can see the tile under it

Then click the tile while you have a pull on the fax

This will place the fax on the table

You're welcome
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>>159592684
But what powers would they get? I imagine it would be a mix between ling and vamps with a dab of cult.
>inscribing runes with the "life essence of crewmen"
>can turn others of the same gender into lesser succubi
>thermal vision at the cost of expending stored essence
>can fucking fly
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>>159595672
Well it's not for everyone, I can totally understand that...sorta depends what you're trying to get out of it. What's your experience with it been like?

It relaxes me, enhances music and visuals and no homo helps me RP better get more in character, sometimes brings me joy. I've done some hallucinogens but you don't just do those on a whim, whereas a jay can be good wherever whenever if you have free time. Makes watching space documentaries fucking amazing

>>159595942
You must have gotten some really shitty brickweed or smoked a strain different than the effects you were looking for; getting burnt out goes hand in hand with shitty weed. Im from Canada and I've been getting medicinal grade stuff of my preferred strain (hybrid) for a while now

I keep my drug use between myself and my close friends; I absolutely fucking detest potheads that base their entire social/hobby life around weed
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>>159596226
Gotta have something similar to thrall
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>Tfw really enjoy this game, but am constantly bewildered at the proper response/preparations for bad situations.
I'm not talking about looking for a fight or anything, more like what I should be focusing on.

So far all I really know is blob, which is gang up on it with all the lasers, welders, and emitters you can muster.
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>>159596249
LSD is probably the best drug I've ever tried.
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>>159596372
blob and xeno are the only two you can really prepare for. for xenos just fucking stockpile guns and WEAR A HELMET OR MASK

everything else is mostly for security to deal with.
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>>159596226
>flight
>in the tight corridors of a space station
>flying in space where there is no air push around to achieve movement
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>>>159591950 extremely unergonomic squat
Is it your goal to wreck your feet and legs?
Because that's how you wreck your feet and legs.
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>>159596372
For most antags, a chloral syringe is your best bet

Guns are mostly effective on a ling if you can pick it out, but you have to finish the job by cutting off its head with something like a cleaver or axe -- or incinerate it at the crematorium, gib it at the kitchen, etc.

Vamps are a massive fucking pain to kill because they have a ton of free abilities and escapes. A good vamp can sax the entire crew **even if they are actively chasing him**. Just arm fucking everyone. Security should bring earmuffs if possible to cancel out screech, but you can't block eyeflash even with sunglasses.

Wizards, it mostly depends on which spell they have. The most important thing to remember is that if people start losing control of their ability to walk, you need to get chemistry to shit out a fuckton of ethylredoxazone 1u pills which cure it. Subjugate is massively annoying.

In case of mutate wizard or creatine traitor, you need chloral. In fact, most wizard situations call for chloral.
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>>159596819
>chloraling a hulk
ha
hahaha
HA
okay buddy
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>>159596226
>>159592684
Fund it

>>159594054
Just because it's a succubus doesn't mean it has to be maximum ERP. Just think of it like a friendlier vampire that drains the soul rather than blood
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>>159596372
>Your co-workers are disappearing
Be guarded and don't trust strangers. Maybe they're afk. Maybe a changeling has killed them.
>People are screaming bloody murder about the bloody murderer in the halls
Make a weapon out of anything you can, preferably with some kind of slippery sidekick like a bucket of water or stun gloves. Every spessman for himself.
>Ayys/Blob
Just report to the HoP desk for your all access card and walk to cargo for your gun. Shoot the same direction as everyone else. Don't shoot others. If someone is in the way wait. He will move eventually and you will be able to shoot. If there are too many somebodies move somewhere else. There's probably a blobberific room with one poor engineer trying to weld it away that wants help.
>Meteors, Rods, and Other Calamities
Use maintenance if you have access otherwise try your best not to depressurize further rooms while escaping. A contained problem almost instantly becomes a station wide problem because people run with disregard to their own and others safety when opening airlocks and venting the air in safe rooms to depressurized areas.
>Virus
Medbay. Tell them you are sick and describe it. Wait there until you are cured. Do not leave. Sometimes viruses last 30 minutes because some chucklefuck leaves and infects a guy who goes braindead before symptoms manifest, then a radiation belt hits and the virus mutates and jesus christ everyones getting sick with the new virus the clown just exploded while holding a rubber duck I think its gibbingtons call the shuttle.
>Nuke Ops
Run. Fight. Do whatever you want just stay out of securities way and don't pinch their hardsuits. If security doesn't exist pinch their hardsuits and a fire extinguisher. Space yourself and hope you wind up on the Asteroid or Derelict. This is your new home.
>Raiders
Watch as they feebly try to trade, get half heartedly kidnapped and watch again as security slaughters them.
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>>159596819 Everybody and their estranged aunt are always full of Anti-Tox.
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>>159597147
>just because it's a succubus
>doesn't mean erotic roleplay will come into it
>s u c c u b u s
>n o e r p
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>>159596372
>Cult
Head to security for an implant. Panic. Die. Get resurrected as a fucking construct. Die to security. Avoid anyone that wants to form a book club or sex cabal.

>Wizard
Just stay out of their way. If you have a ballistic weapon feel free to shoot at them and accidentally maim the chef. But mostly Wizards want to create chaos so everyones busy running amok. If you stay out of their way then they probably will be too busy firing eye-lasers at security to pick on you in particular. Do this by running the fuck away.

>Shit I forgot
Keep calm. PDA someone that has a gun explaining what's going on. Hide. Go to Medbay since there will likely be people there and you're less of an easy target. Go get a gun. Drink in the bar. Drink in the library. Pray. Pretend to pray while drinking in the Chapel. Get your liver replaced in medbay.
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>>159597203
>If there are too many somebodies move somewhere else
You will almost always make more progress killing blob if you go somewhere its attention is not and start chipping away at it.

While the blob is focused on killing the big mass of people, you can sneak around back and take out a crucial resource node. Make yourself MVP instantly.
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>>159597232
That's just a flat-out lie, Anon
I've gone in hypospray chloraling sprees and nobody ever has antitox in them
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>>159597203
>Make a weapon out of anything you can
If you plan on lingering in one general area, retreating through a door trap is pretty much guaranteed to work.

>>Virus
>Medbay.
You're really better of curing yourself.

>>159597438
>Head to security for an implant.
>not already being implanted
You can ask for one at any arrest to get 5 minutes off your sentence.
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>>159597646
>>>Virus
>>Medbay.
>You're really better of curing yourself.
no you fucking cunt, you GET YOUR ASS TO MEDBAY and at the very least get some spaceacillin.
DON'T FORGET THAT SPACEACILLIN EXISTS AND IT'S RETARDEDLY GOOD
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>>159597438
>Head to security for an implant.
No thanks I'd rather join the club if they catch me than have them murder me when they see the conversion doesn't work.
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Well, that as an interesting first-in-a-while game. Barely figured out how to geneticist again and managed to find xray
too bad the round was already over by then, shit went down quickly
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>>159597728
You don't cure it in *in yourself*, that usually kills you.
But it's significantly faster than the virology machines.
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>>159596372
Ask yourself what the station really needs. Sometimes it's not a bad idea to leave the robusting to the validhunters. If there are suddenly a lot of people dying, help out in medbay. If something like a wizard starts thrashing the place, repair the breaches.

As for preparing, get yourself some stungloves or prod and cable cuffs ready as soon as fights or antags are announced on the radio. Those should fend off the most basic attacks. And whatever tools your department has to offer, be creative.
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>tfw malf AI interrupted my attempts to get Sawbones investigated for being a non-human captain last round
Damn, I wanted to get an NT guy to come over from Centcom to spice things up a bit. Oh well.
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>>159598151
>tabling your plans because of antags
Unless your Sec, just keep doing whatever.
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>set up enough trade goods to last a century, my efficiency is through the roof
>shuttle call 20 minutes into the round because lol plasmaflood at roundstart & bombs & murderboning clowns
>miserable
>at least the... ghosts are keeping me company?
>clown smashes in and flashbangs me to death and ruins my shop with ZAS and then beheads me because the murderbone was fat
...
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>>159596372
have to go with >>159598106
There are a lot of validhunters already, and most of the time the best answer to "what can I do" is "your assigned job", even if it looks like you're not doing much.

For example, today in the bleb, R&D had not developed energy weapons, so the people who broke in R&D started printing machine guns. Only to realize that they couldn't print bullets because the miners had not brought any silver. And cargo was already overtaken so no way to order them.

If you were a miner in that round, simply doing your best to smelt silver and bring it to R&D would have made a difference.
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>borgs/ai not malf
>ignoring law 2
ebin
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>>159598728
How about you try forming proper sentences instead of just yelling "AI LAW 2" and hoping it guesses what you want?
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>>159598629
I was IAA, I felt like I was responsible for getting help from Centcom, so I had to cease the investigation and start faxing them to get an ERT going.
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>Put bombs all around the station
>Leave one in toxins, to cover my tracks, set to go off with proxy trigger
>Plant 2 bombs in arrivals escape shuttles
>Bomb in toxins goes off.
>Get killed before planting the other 3
>only one bomb gets to go off.

Sad Day.
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>>159596647
It's demon magic. I ain't gotta explain shit.
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>>159598958
>tator roboticist
>want to try something than emagging all the borgs
>start making some ed-209s to emag for chaos
>no security officers
>pda a borg, doesnt come
>try talking to the AI on his private channel
>no response
>try requesting ai prescence in brig
>no response
>HoP arrives
>go ask him for some taser/vest/helmet or sec access since we have no force
>basically tells me "yeah ill send some over"
>5 minutes later, doesn't
>nothing
>walk back to HoP office
>try to convince him
>suddenly plasmaflood
>eventually get healed up, blind because my eyes burned out
>left in medbay
I know your pain
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>>159599256
>blind because my eyes burned out
literally 10u of imidazoline
ask a chemist or break in and make it yourself
blindness sucks and you NO LONGER NEED TO HAVE IT
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>>159599415
it was 2 minutes to shuttle call, I think there were 2 people in medbay, I don't know, I couldn't see
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>>159599256

Sorry about not responding. HOS was having me hunt down a tatortot. Then toxins went to hell.
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>>159599256
Literally the moment you left my queue all the shit went down, I never got a chance to get you the parts before it all went to shit. Also you left your ID behind when you ran.
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>>159598879
You could have build a second fax machine to send the Sawbones fax.
That takes significantly less time than waiting through the cooldown.
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>>159598630
>at least the... ghosts are keeping me company?
A l w a y s G r o w D i o n a
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>>159600130
I kind of gave up after the plasmaflood

usually ends in a shuttle call anyway
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byond://70.106.202.233:65432

Celt has snowmaps in their final stage up, come and test it out.
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>>159600838
>grew a batch of 12 dionas at once
>all of them were braindead
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>>159600978
Gib proof, not joining a serb link at random anon
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>>159601126
>>159600978
I'm waiting on code compile, I'll check it out
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>>159597296
Is kissing too erotic for you anon?
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>>159601261
>>159601126
Okay it's just Taxi but with snow tiles outside instead of space

Literally nothing
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>>159600978
IT'S NOT FINAL IT'S NOT EVEN READY TO MERGE FUCK OFF CARSH
t. celt
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>>159601408
Public test on the main server WHEN
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THE BADDY PADDY STRIKES YET AGAIN
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>>159601405
Sorry that was carsh, he's shitposting again. It'll be merged and ready tommorow.

t. Real celt.
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>>159601408
Oh god please be soon
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>>159601408
Is that supposed to be fencing?

You know we have ACTUAL fences now, right?
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>>159599256
>want to try something than emagging all the borgs
Give all the greytiders Ripleys.
Build a bunch of AIs with conflicting lawsets.
Put nanites into random people.
Leave synthetic flashes lying everywhere.
Debrain the whole Morgue without making borgs.
Blow helpful borgs during crises.
Build and emags dozens of floorbots and cleanbots.
Adjust the safety and speed of every door you see.
Steal surgery patients, then borg them.
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>>159601736
It's literally old taxi - I've removed those since, justsumguy is running an outdated branch
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>>159601751
>Build and emags dozens of floorbots and cleanbots.
Didn't know they were emagg-able, since wiki only mentioned beepsky/ed209 as far as emags go

How are you supposed to blow borgs without RD access?
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>>159601408
Is that an arctic planet station?

Lost Planet mode when.

Let people be licensed hunters and band together hunting huge ayyyylium bugs full of rare regents and minerals when butchered.

>when I code it
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>>159602381
>traitor
>access
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>>159600978

>/vg/station has never done snowmaps


Speaking of which, when are we going to do snow map again? It's almost Christmas...
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>>159602530
I get your point, but emagging into the RD office seems like a dead giveaway
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>>159602581
It'll be merged in tommorow.

t. Patty O'Celt
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>>159602381
>Didn't know they were emagg-able
Floorbots will make space tiles and cleanbots will lube everything.
Pretty nice synergy between those two.

>How are you supposed to blow borgs without RD access?
Hack your way in or build your own console (you have the tools).
You can use the console itself with just robotics access.
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What do wooden limbs do?
>>
>>159602970 Almost nothing.
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>>159602970
Be comically shit.
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>>159602970
Make you slow as shit and unable to do certain things, such as wearing shoes
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>>159602970
Entitle you to a free entre at several resteraunts on talk like a pirate day.
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>>159602394
>Lost Planet mode when.
Soon™
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>>159602970
The hooks on wooden hands are cool! COOL!!
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>>159602719
Emags are the most cost effective traitor item, but frankly they're a crutch.
Unless you're in a pinch or doing a gimmick, you should just sit on your TCs.
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Begorrah!
Let me explain what just happened, and why you're all so upset. What just happened was Carshalash thought it would be funny to take my bleeding edge version and play it despite not having bug fixed it. The revision behind was much more stable, although obviously it has much less features. So yes, although you got to play on the feature rich version it was much less stable.

If you have any questions be sure to ask and I'll respond.
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>>159603484
Why am I so bald? Why are you so piglike?
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>>159603484
How many bugfixes to you expect to have by your deadline?
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>>159603758
I may not be on track 100% for 100 bug fixes, expect to get around 40 or so by December 31st.
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>>159603856
>Celt isn't going to finish his bugfixes
Wowee, who could have expected this surprising turn of events?
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>>159604016
Truly he was the hero we all deserved
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>around 40 or so
so maybe like 4?
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>>159604016
Would you prefer 100 shoddily fixed bugs, or 40 high quality fixes?
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>>159603856
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>>159604127
Explain this
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>>159604228
>>
>>159604127 It take something like 15-20 minutes to fix most minor bugs.
You could crank that shit out in 34 hours, including coffee and food breaks.
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>>159604127
I'd prefer that you do what you said you were going to do, you fucking leprechaun.
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>>159604242 Silicons a best gas Vox.
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>>159604242
Carsh self requested them. He said the weight of not spending enough time with his girlfriend was weighing too heavily upon him, so he wants to take a break.

>>159604228
"It's a hitpiece"

>>159604262
I'll code how I code, you back off lad.

>>159604328
Fuck off, A*glo
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>>159603856
SAWBONES WAS RIGHT
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>>159604427
Why all the jobbans though instead of just a server ban?
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>>159604526
He doesn't even have all the job bans.
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>>159604526
He's gonna carry that weight.
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>>159604427
>carsh
>has a girlfriend
yeah ok
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>>159604427
Celt why do all nationalist movements sell out and turn leftie
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>>159603856
>>159604127
Why bother setting such lofty goals for yourself if you're just going to fuck it up?
You didn't HAVE to promise to fix 100 bugs by the end of the year.

But now that you did, the fact that you're going to fuck it up just makes you look like an asshole who can't keep his word.
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>>159604242
Chef
Mechanic
Trader
Silicon
MoMMI
AI
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>>159604739
>look like
He IS an asshole who can't keep his word
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I know you've missed me guys but I'll be back soon!
Unemployment is a few days away
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>>159604739
>>159604328
>>159604079
>>159604016
>>159604738
>>159604863
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>>159604738
Because Socialists are an inherent plaque upon the world

>>159604739
>>159604863
I'm not even Celt, as far as I know he's still on track to 100
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>>159604738
Political machines are the most effect way to sway the opinions of large groups.

>>159604758
>Mechanic
The have that.
>Silicon
*Cyborg

Also:
pAI
Dionaea
Syndicate
Cultist
Nuke Operative
Vox Raider

Can you jobban Ghost?
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>>159604732
Metaclub has photographic proof senpai.
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>>159605113
>still on track to 100
He has FOUR
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>>159605146
Post it
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>>159605171
>he has FOUR
Still got a month to do 96!

I'll probably leave it to the last two weeks - snow map is my priority right now
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>>159605265
>violation of global rules 4, 6, and 7.
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>>159605265
Should have joined the discord club.
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>tfw you will never be Julia's boss and get her to call you daddy
Why even be CMO desu
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contratulations Ivan Warren & co.
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>>159605865
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>>159605146
o-oh wow, he showed you a picture of something!
proof confirmed!
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the one time I try to use the singulo beacon, and it pays off
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>>159605865
Cargo was a mistake
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>>159605969
How is photographic evidence of me being with her not proof nigga?
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>>159606316
Carsh, fuck off, you're a faggot and we don't want your retarded discord shittery in the thread
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Somebody set us up the bomb.
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>>159606409
>I WILL BLOW UP THE WHOLE STATION
>blows up his own department
Hillarious.
>>
wait did the plasma flood the entire station?
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>>159605856
BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL
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damn, it took awhile but flooding the station and releasing singulo. thats a new best for me
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Quick, what's a cryptid-type monster that lives and hunts only in darkness?
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>>159606604
Dwarves.
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>>159606604
Grue?
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>>159606604
Yred?
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>>159606604
What about grues?
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>>159606604
Grue
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>>159606717
>>159606728
>>159606756
Grue it is, then. Thanks.
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>>159606604
A sniveling New York Liberal
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>>159606604
The mothman?
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>>159606604
The fuck does a Wumpus look like anyways?

>>159606776
What's wrong with dwarves?
Those fuckers turn to stone all the time in germanic myth.
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>>159606863
>What's wrong with dwarves?
Because "dwarf" evokes more an image of a stout humanoid, not necessarily a monster.

I was looking for something that you think of as a monster with teeth and claws that'll fuck you up if it catches you in the dark.
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That round was too fun.
>chug becoming "captain" and fucking around with the clown and nuke disk on a janicart
>cargo nuked Hank Hill style
Good shit
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>>159606945
that sure sounds like a dorf
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>>159607015
Dwarves are fucking terrifying
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>>159607073
Truly the most barbaric race
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>>159607176
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>>159607176
Sometimes they go past the point of barbaric and become feral
Feral snow dwarves, with an even more twisted idea of !!fun!! than before
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>>159607235
>>
Coder discord here
https://discord.gg/fE3Ts8A
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>>159607324
At least they recognize what being a librarian is all about
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>>159607562
And at least they're better than humans.
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>>159607001
What happens if Chug becomes the real captain one day?
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>>159607675
>tfw running into a naked dwarf living in a cave shitposting
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Why are you shitposting in ss13 general

you know this isnt dwarf general right
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>>159608357
>shitposting
You must be new here.
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>>159608357
It is more than one person posting dwarf and I didn't start it
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>>159608357
/dfg/ and /ss13g/ are essentially the same places
you can't dispute this
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>>159607819
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>>159608357
Ignore this massive fucking homo mongoloid elf special child, post more dorfs
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>>159608716
it was inevitable
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So is Celt a strong independent coder who needs no timelines like Toady the great?
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Lets get back to the important issues at hand.
Titty and ass sliders when?
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GIVE ME THE NUKE DISK, CAPTAIN
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>>159608958
>dwarf fortress
>dwarf fortress fun
>dwarf fortress no graphics
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>>159609547
>Space Station 13 only on Level 3
>>
What's Sybil, what's Bagil?
yet more servers?
>>
>>159609706 Depth is social acceptability and time investment.
MUDs are basically chatrooms, and our learning curve isn't steep.
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>>159609706
It should be 4 at the most, everything beyond that is Saint territory.
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>>159609547
>tfw level 4
I am thinking about picking up Shenzhen I/O or TIS-100 though which would bump me up to 5.
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>>159609819
>and our learning curve isn't steep.
when normies come into the server and singuloose
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>>159609871
TIS-100 might be the best puzzle game I've ever played.
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>>159609871
Pick up both of them, they're great
>>
Hello I'm Emilia
Who should I banbait next
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>>159609871
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>>159610817
Reica and/or Lisa Tovir if hey aren't already banned
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>>159610898
>7 nodes
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>>159611024
Be nice, I'm not the optimization guy
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>>159610817
Kill yourself
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>>159610898
>>159610812
>>159610271
>>159611086
>tfw I might be spending my free time from programming homework doing programming games
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>>159611086
>7 nodes
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>>159605856
http://pastebin.com/vhe4xYfh
but why would you
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>>159611191
It is a good pain.
>>
To the CE that showed me how to make a railgun, thanks! I tried looking it up on wikis, but google didn't bring any results.
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>>159610817
Hyun
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>>159611086
No wait, that's 8 nodes.
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>>159611684
he already sperged out and banned himself
>>
>>159611582
Adding "site:ss13.moe" to the search constrains it to the relevant wiki.
You can also dig through https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
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>>159611771
Show me your solutions, then
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>>159610817
yourself noone likes you :)
>>
This is the song that doesn't end.
>>
>>159611684
> deadpoolj banned for welderbombing
one less angry autist
>>
Why are there so many implausibly stupid virus effects?
I mean fuck, how does a virus make you GROW CLOTHES
Most of them aren't even interesting or fun
>>
What's the trick to making a good burn mixture that doesn't catch fire inside pipes and canisters? I tried cooking plasma and oxygen to make a better flame thrower but as soon as they mixed in their container they changed to plasma and carbon dioxide.
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>tfw going to bed to your qt trap gf camming for you after a nice and fun game of SS13
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>>159612170 https://youtu.be/xJIGo1tL9yA
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>>159612286
>tfw your gf makes you miserable.
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>>159612251
Keep the plasma and oxygen separate dumbass
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>>159612246
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>>159612286
>>159612418
>tfw foreveralone
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>>159612547
>tfw found my irl waifu through spess
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>>159612418
As long as you have those special moments that make it worth it, keep going. I've gone through emotional hell for her, and I don't regret a second of it.
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>>159611385
Damaged goods are fun goods
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>>159612246
The game's first virus turned people into monkeys.
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>>159612812
don't stick your dick in crazy
or in BILL
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>>159611385
>[03:10:15]ADMIN: DeadPoolJ/(Hyun Ae) : yell at me over byond if patrick and julia get too loewd
>telling someone else to admin for you
Is this where the valkyrie meme came from?
>>
>>159612423
I did. I'd mix them in the little orange canister you plug into the flame thrower and they'd still turn into plasma and CO2.
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>>159612920
I like to live on the edge, and normies won't eat me as a giant Tarantula drider Lady in an autistic atmospheric simulator
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>>159612627
One of my classmates met his wife through WoW or something and mentions it all the time. Maybe my waifu is also out there drifting through spess.
>tfw I have maybe 4 hours of spess a week during midnight burger hours to find her
>>
shit the general was at its best when everyone was talking about something other then spess
>>
Is there someplace i should go to make a suggestion to improve the game?
>>
>>159613740
github - just know that since you don't even know where to suggest how to make game changes that you're probably too new to actually know what would 'improve' the game
>>
>>159611385
>I'm a good girl!
No you're not, you're a faggot hipster named Bill
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>>159612169
Sec likes me
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>>159613784
>you're probably too new to actually know what would 'improve' the game
Quite on the contrary.

I was going to suggest that the time required to play silicons should be greatly extended, they are way too hard for a new player to handle properly.

Is this idea retarded?
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>>159611861
Oh sweet, thanks for the filter. Wouldn't you know the recipe list that actually had useful info on it came up.

I wouldn't know where to start with that github stuff though.
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>>159613874
>time required to play silicons should be greatly extended
Good idea but:
>want to become the most robust robit
>roll assistant
>"roboticist you nigger borg me"
>if he doesn't comply, break into his shit and make a mess of everything until he does
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CUTE
CUUUUUUTE
I LOVE RAIL
CUUUUUUUUUUTE BIRD
I LOVE YOU RAIIIIIL!
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>tfw my waifu is back and I got to play with her.
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>>159614130
requesting that "I'm tough stuff" vox meme
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>>159614051
>if he doesn't comply, break into his shit and make a mess of everything until he does
>Call security
>greyshirt is stunned, handcuffed and arrested.

Also, it could prevent new players from getting borged at all, which would stop this situation.

I am just saying, I started playing a few weeks ago, soon got to play as borgs, made a lot of mistakes and got a lot of complaints noted about me, now I get job banned for whatever mistake I commit.

It would have been better if I was not allowed to lay borg at all until I had something like 3 months of game experience? Probrably more for AI.
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>>159614216
It's a good idea, as the few times I've been borg'd by an antag I had literally no idea what I was supposed to do. I can only imagine it's worse for non-antag borgs
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>>159614163

who?
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>>159614391
>not keeping your waifu all to yourself
What are you, some kind of spess cuck?
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>>159613984
>I wouldn't know where to start with that github stuff though.
Just dig in. Search bar would be a good place to start.

BYOND objects are atom/area, atom/turf, atom/obj, or atom/mob (for game tokens) or datum (for more nebulous crap).
If something is inheriting behavior, but redefines a subroutine, ..() means "and do the original subroutine's stuff here".
BYOND subroutines are called proc.

Everything else is pretty self explanatory.
As with all programming languages, it's intended to be human readable.
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Also, it would be nice if once someone sets a only x person is human lawset the borgs would be able to see a sign on top of the person's head pointing that he is human, something similar to the cultist icon being used to allow cultists to see who is with them. This would prevent new players from committing the stupid mistake of harming or killing the human they are supposed to be serving.

Sure, you can just learn to pay attention to not commit this mistake in the future, but this way you would not commit the mistake in the first place.

>>159614336
>It's a good idea, as the few times I've been borg'd by an antag I had literally no idea what I was supposed to do. I can only imagine it's worse for non-antag borgs
Specially when you do not even understand what asimov is yet, you simply feel lost, just like you would if playing another job, but mistakes commited as silicon are treated much more harshly.
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>>159614190
I got ya family
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>>159614442
>antag borgs me
>not emagged
>laws are standard asimov but only the antag counts as human
>not sure if I'm supposed to go murderbone everyone or not
>get blamed for the AI's doorcrushing before I even know if I'm free to murderbone or not
>get robusted because am scrub
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>>159614051
Not even being an efficient assistant.
Ask for a robot head to make a roburger.

>>159614216
The correct answer is brain cake.
You have sufficient escalation.
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>>159614578
Thanks senpai
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>>159614442
>>159614336
>>159614216
>>159613874
>Specially when you do not even understand what asimov is yet
That's why we have a wiki. You're not required to read it, but you really are.
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>>159614586
Pretty much this.

You are so confused in such a situation that you will simply fail to do anything at all and just get killed.

>>159614636
>The correct answer is brain cake.
>You have sufficient escalation.
Well, you can't stop newbies from commiting newbie mistakes, but you can improve the game so that these mistakes will not happen so often.
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>>159613223
what's >her name?
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>>159614772
>That's why we have a wiki. You're not required to read it, but you really are.
Yeah, but the thing is: the wiki is not clear on many things.

Does getting tased by security harms you? Not really, but borgs are not supposed to do it either way under asimovs law, right?

Besides, the wiki contains a lot of information all mixed up, you don't seriously think a new player will read it all before trying to play, right? They will just read enough to get started and continue reading as the need for information arises.

And as I said, the time it takes for you to be allowed to play silicons is too short, there would be literally no harm in increasing the time so that new players would have to play longer before trying out silicons.
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>>159614216
>It would have been better if I was not allowed to lay borg at all until I had something like 3 months of game experience?
Wouldn't have hurt to go to the test server (or locally host a server) to get the hang of the borg UI and powers.
Which I guess is true of anything else in the game, for that matter.
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>>159612698
I havent had them for a long time, she puts nearly everyone she knows over me at this point. She got mad at me for getting pissed at her friend for jumping on my legs while I was laying down feeling sick.
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>>159614994
>but borgs are not supposed to do it either way under asimovs law, right?
Why would you even have a taser? There's no reason to roll Sec borg on Asimov.
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>>159613062
Partually, yes. DenkouZ observed often, shittalked shitters in deadchat, played nice when playing, and was considered a waifu (despite not wanting any part of it). All of that led to the thankfully short-lived valkyrie meme.
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>>159615061
>Wouldn't have hurt to go to the test server (or locally host a server) to get the hang of the borg UI and powers.
This is not the problem, mate.

Anyone can understand the UI and powers of a borg, and use it. The problem is knowing how a borg is supposed to behave, that is where things get messy.

>>159615152
>Why would you even have a taser? There's no reason to roll Sec borg on Asimov.
Yes, you would know that if you have been playing for a few weeks, but a brand new player on his first time playing borg will simply pick security, because they are drawn to it.

Like, these suggestions would probrably have helped me in the past few weeks if they existed in the game, Im just giving feedback from a newbies perspective of the game.
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>>159614994
>Does getting tased by security harms you?
Tases are completely harmless.
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>>159615262
>on his first time playing borg will simply pick security, because they are drawn to it.
y tho.

Standard > Medical = Engineering > Combat > > Security > Janitor > Service > > Miner
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>>159614216
so you're the borg who didn't follow his onehuman law, even when the human explicitly said I-I-IT'S M-M-ME

maybe just keep it in your pants, don't be a cunt etc.
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>>159614994
>but borgs are not supposed to do it either way under asimovs law, right?
wrong.

>the wiki is not clear on many things/all mixed up
I agree, still it gives you enough information to not get banned. And you also get some amount of freedom in interpreting your laws.
You can even ask your AI or other bots over binary for advice if you're totally clueless. You have all the information to not be shit at your disposal.

>you don't seriously think a new player will read it all before trying to play, right?
>read it all
No, but I expect new players to read the basics, rules and the guide for whatever job they're joining as. If someone can't be assed to do that, I personally don't want him on this server.

If you mess up as a silicon, you'll get a warning and a temp jobban at most which should be the signal for you to read wiki, and if you then STILL can't be assed to read it, this is not the game for you.
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>>159615605
warning *or a temp jobban I meant
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>King Arthur (as Unknown) says, "FOR THE KING"
>Sir Viver (as Unknown) says, "YAWHEH"
>Sir Griswald (as Unknown) exclaims, "FOR THE KING!"
>Sir Lancelot (as Unknown) says, "DESTROY THE INFIDELS"
>Sir Lancelot (as Unknown) says, "FOR GOD"
>Sir Griswald (as Unknown) exclaims, "DEUS VULT!"

>(Follow) Dawson Adams says, "I don't want to rush you guys but JESUS FUCKING CHRIST is on station and he has a nuke."

>Honk'Sie honks at Jesus Christ in the right arm!
>(Follow) Jesus Christ says, "My child"
>Honk'Sie honks at Jesus Christ in the left foot!
>(Follow) Jesus Christ says, "You have sinned"
>(Follow) Jesus Christ says, "But I forgive you"
>(Follow) Jesus Christ says, "As for the nuclear fire shall cleanse you of your sins"

One of my favorite busses in a while. Deadchat went WILD.
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>>159615441
>Tases are completely harmless.
And yet it is considered human harm when a borg does it, hence the problem.

>>159615494
>y tho.
Human nature, that is why.

>>159615494
>Standard > Medical = Engineering > Combat > > Security > Janitor > Service > > Miner
This makes sense to an experienced player, but not to a newbie.

>>159615509
>even when the human explicitly said I-I-IT'S M-M-ME
Well, at the time I didn't even understand what you were saying, I only realized it was you when the admin told me! Hence why I think an icon should be displayed on top of the one human, as to avoid this.

>>159615509
>maybe just keep it in your pants, don't be a cunt etc.
I try, but that was a honest mistake man, I did not realize it was you at all, im really sorry for ruining the round.

>>159615605
>wrong.
And yet I get several complaints on me because of that.

>>159615605
>If you mess up as a silicon, you'll get a warning and a temp jobban at most which should be the signal for you to read wiki, and if you then STILL can't be assed to read it, this is not the game for you.
See, the problem is when honest mistakes like the one described here happen, I feel terrible for ruining the round and will be extra sure to try not to let this happen again, but the fact that you get ordered to kill everyone but 1 person, and has no way of telling that person apart from the rest other than by name you easily end up committing a stupid mistake during the chaos of trying to survive while killing everyone else.

I am not trying to use this as an excuse for what I did or to get my jobban cancelled, im just suggesting a feature that would prevent this kind of honest mistake from happening again to some other newbie in the future.
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>>159615990
>And yet it is considered human harm when a borg does it, hence the problem.
Where in the hell are you getting this? Tases are not harm.
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>>159615990
>And yet it is considered human harm when a borg does it, hence the problem.
according to fucking who

it does no damage
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>>159615990
>And yet it is considered human harm when a borg does it, hence the problem.
Whoever told you that lied nigga.
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>>159615990
>Tases are completely harmless.
>And yet it is considered human harm when a borg does it, hence the problem.
literally no-one thinks this.
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>>159615990
>linking a post multiple times to seperate different points
That... actually looks really nice. Might start doing that.
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>>159616027
>Where in the hell are you getting this? Tases are not harm.
>>159616029
>according to fucking who
>>159616032
>Whoever told you that lied nigga.
>>159616052
>literally no-one thinks this.
So it was just a badmin playing a prank on me or something?
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>>159616125
which admin, and what exactly did he say so I can pull logs
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Chemists that round were awful. I was CMO and they spent their existence making autism cryomixes from roundstart instead of making literally any useful medicine. No bicard, no dex+, no keloderm, and when I asked for a little hyperzine, they blew me off completely. People NEEDED medicine. Everyone that came in was needing medicine, but the chemists did nothing, and of course they're taking up too much space so I can't run in and make the chemicals myself.
The cryomix didn't do anything for anyone the entire round, by the way.
I went in trying to get chloral to combat the cultists which were INVADING MEDBAY and in exchange I got one of the autistic chemists screeching at me like a banshee. I tried to demote both of them for being incompetent fuckwads but they either ignored me or attacked me.
Please stop being so autistic. Seriously. The tunnel vision was real.
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>>159609706
I'm a normie and I play ss13
This graph a shit
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>>159616179
>which admin
Don't remenber, it was in the first week of playing as silicon.

Also heard it from several players, mostly security, but I suppose those are not reliable sources of information?
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>>159616318
You can ahelp right now and ask if you want. I thought it happened today so I asked in the admin channel if anyone knew what it was about, but nope.
Tases aren't harmful (as long as tasing them doesn't directly lead to harm such as if they're trying to escape a fire).
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>>159615990
>And yet it is considered human harm when a borg does it, hence the problem.
No it is not
>And yet I get several complaints on me because of that.
Here's what you need to do: Stop listening to complaints unless they're coming from an admin, because every player in this game is a salty cunt who hates borgs for some reason. They would say anything to you to get you off their backs.

>See, the problem is when honest mistakes like the one described here happen, I feel terrible for ruining the round and will be extra sure to try not to let this happen again, but the fact that you get ordered to kill everyone but 1 person, and has no way of telling that person apart from the rest other than by name you easily end up committing a stupid mistake during the chaos of trying to survive while killing everyone else.
That's the way it goes. Mistakes can't be avoided in this game no matter how new you are. Explain to the admin who bwoinks you why you did what you did, 90% of the time, if it's just incompetence it won't be punished.
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>>159616410
>>159616318
stunning with a baton is fine too - as long as it's not harmbaton
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>>159616318
For the love of fuck, stuns are only harm when the intent for the stunnig is harm

No, not your ingame intent, your personal intent, if you stun to toolbox or baton, its harmfull, if its done to arrest someone or defuse a situation, its perfectly fine.

You want a absolutely shit harmfull tool to subdue someone as ASSIMOV borg, literally the pepper spray, does eye damage and harms people a fuckload, tazers exist so you don't acidentaly harmbaton or have to use the spray that plain doesn't work when someone wears a mask, which they always do.
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>>159616410
>You can ahelp right now and ask if you want.
At work, can't.

>>159616410
>Tases aren't harmful (as long as tasing them doesn't directly lead to harm such as if they're trying to escape a fire).
I see.

>>159616435
>No it is not
I realize it now.

>>159616435
>Here's what you need to do: Stop listening to complaints unless they're coming from an admin, because every player in this game is a salty cunt who hates borgs for some reason. They would say anything to you to get you off their backs.
Will keep that in mind.

>>159616450
>>159616484
Will keep that in mind in the future.
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>>159616212
>CMO getting cucked by his own department
>not dragging the chemist's chloralled ass to the HoP for demotion if the fridge is not stocked within 10 minutes

Sounds like you're the bad player in this story.
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>>159616652
>can't walk into chemistry to get chloral without being attacked violently
>security and HoP are too busy with cultists
Else I would have anon, else I would have
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>>159616718
CMO comes with a fucking flash doesn't he?
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>>159616212
>>159616652
Not the chemists but just improvise if there's no medecine available
Inaprov+CPR, strip them off + cryo
There's always an alternative way
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Cult and Rev are the worst gamemodes, prove me wrong.

>le forced to be antag mode xd
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>>159616752
Forgot about that. Thanks.
>>159616806
Yes, there is always a way to improvise, but it's far slower and more unreliable. It wasn't round ending, might've blown it up a little out of saltiness
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>>159616718
>Not gheto cheming chloral

And you call yourself a CMO when you havent mastered ghetto chemistry? Step it up anon, cmon now.
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https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12458

Emoji vote on controversial PR.
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>>159616823
>extended
>double nigger
>heist
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>>159616806
There is, but the CMO's first job is not to treat patients, it's to get his department running properly.
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>>159616876
>he wants me to ghetto chem chloral at roundstart preemptively expecting the worst of the worst
What if Chemistry just isn't shit
How would I even ghetto up chlorine and ethanol, by the way? I actually don't know.
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>>159616926
>Extended
Extended is good, go back to TG or hippie

>Double traitor
eh. It's there but it's not anyone's favorite or least favorite

>heist
just needs a rework

No rework could ever fix cult or rev
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>>159616823
No, it's wizard

No proof required because we all know it's true.
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>>159616921
I'd rather Dwarf become a disability and they stay mutually exclusive.
But *something* needs to change, and I'm OK with this.
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>>159617018
>I'd rather Dwarf become a disability
Why?
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>>159616823
Cult is mechanically a great mode, fun as fuck, stealth cult is amazing to play with, going loud is great too, a fully culted department is amazingbin its coordination and skilled cult players are the ducking best, setting up teleporters and shit.

Rev is great fun, because you finally get some backup to tide like a madman, and rushing sec as a asstant and toolboxing people to death was some great fun mate. Its like cult but less neat, and if sec is worth a damn, they will b able to anugf it out quick anyhow, make a proper fort and shit.
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>>159617018
Alright, but you need to actually use the Github voting system or that means nothing.

PRs don't get merged based on the thread's opinions.
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>>159617042
You can screen out all the disabilities in like, 2 minutes.
But if you indiscriminately grab boost all the power blocks, Dwarf will always stop you from getting Hulk.
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>>159617045
>phone posters like cult

really makes you think
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>>159616935
I can understand that, but I made it a personal rule to never get angry IC
It never helps, plus I'm a newb so I sympathise
Cool off, points flaws, move on/take action if needed
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>>159616972
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Guide_to_Ghetto_Chemistry
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>>159616972
>clorine
Dude, really, did you forget about salt. You call yourself a fucking doctor but don't know about sodium chlorine.

Ethanol is likely just some booze, water is everywhere. You shouldn't gheto do this every round, but if anyone is gibing you shit, gheto make it.
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I'm glad discord posters willingly out themselves as the freaks they are in the dorms channel so I know who to metagrudge and banbait
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>>159617159
>salt
Ah man, fuck, I'm bad.
I don't remember if there's a drink from the bar that's pure ethanol, though. Maybe the booze dispenser.
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>>159616972
A metal sheet and a bowl can make a mediocre Grinder.
Two rods, a sheet of paper, and a toilet (with a crowbar) can make a mediocre ChemMaster.
Two wires and an empty grenade makes this rad shit that can unreact drugs.

Uncook some salt, then pour it into booze.
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>>159617230
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Guide_to_Ghetto_Chemistry#Centrifuge
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>>159617230
Any booze gets electrolyzed into ethanol my good man, just give it a shot.
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>>159617307
>>159617346
Thanks, no booze besides hooch had ethanol in the recipe so I assumed you couldn't electrolyze it out.
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>>159614806
If you're referring to my classmate, I can't remember but she is either a woman or a trap convincingly disguised as an older lady

If you're referring to my waifu, I don't know yet
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>>159617272
Or he can explains the situation to science and ask for his personal Chemaster+Dispenser station
I know I would do it if I played and was asked
I woild be slow as sin thoigh
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>>159617414
>cult round
>going anywhere near science
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>>159617440
It's free antag rolls, what's wrong with that?
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>>159617526
go back to hippie please. The game isn't about muh antag rolls
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>>159602394
>>159603160
can we just play lost planet 2 together instead
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>>159617102
Doesn't make it any less true anon, phone poster or not.
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>>159617440
Science is a cult nest ? Wasn't aware.
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Say, what is security instance on homemade weaponry such as stun gloves and cable bolas for the purpose of self defense against antags?

Like, something you keep on you in case you need to fight someone off but does not plan on using otherwise?
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>>159617440
You act as if bringing papa narsie into the station is bad at all.

Plus, science doesn't need to even come close to you for a proper conversion anon, aleast the competent scientist.
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>>159617889
Why would you make it if you didn't plan to use it you fucking piece of shit greytider?

It's contraband and I will brig your ass and take it away
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>>159617654
>tfw everything about the train mission on the higher difficulties
I would be down for some LP2, but I had it on console and my 360 killed itself already. To think I almost didn't pick it up since the first one didn't do much for me.
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>>159617610
I also ghost at round start if I didn't get antag, and you can do nothing to stop me.
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>>159617954
>Why would you make it if you didn't plan to use it you fucking piece of shit greytider?
Because once a fucking vampire/changeling/traitor/wizard/zombie/nuke ops/ vox raider comes at you looking for a fight you sometimes don't have time to call security, and need something to deflect your attacker.
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>>159618013
You don't because you would have already been banned for it
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>>159617412
what's her ckey?
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>>159618056
I haven't encountered the "one" yet
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>>159617889
>>159618014
Flashes are okay, at least in my opinion. Other makeshift stuff like
>stun gloves and cable bolas
should get you brigged for a few minutes (space law says five). Depends on the officer.
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>>159617889
Are you a greytide, fire suit wearing, gas mask using faggot? Then sec will shit on you.

Are you anyone else? Small chance for a confiscation.
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>>159618139
she's taken
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>>159617670
The cthulhu mythos is fucking gay and the cult game mode is hammy and retarded. Nothing makes me roll my eyes harder than "uh oh its screepy time wooosh scary (red filter)" and getting unceremoniously stabbed to death by one of the stupid assed meme ghosts.
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>>159618350
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>>159618354
>The cthulhu mythos is fucking gay
shit taste desu, stop playing spess and start reading books.
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>>159618354
Why so you thinks its hammy and retarded anon, personally I don't give much of a toss for the cthulian mythos myself, but generally cult is fun as fuck really.
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>>159618012
>Train mission on higher difficulties
My biggest issue was accidental suicide while trying to cross the trains. Only 'difficult' mission that comes to mind is the last ones, in the over G city.

It runs pretty well on PC, even though you have to sift through the horror that is GFWL. I've finished the campaign with my homies about 3-5 times, great fun every time.
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Why is Science considered a cult nest ?
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>>159618460
Fuck you.
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>>159618745
He's right, you know. Lovecraft and/or Lovecraft lite are very fun and exiting to read.
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>>159618974
not who you're talking to but lovecraft can be some inane fucking overdescriptive shit at times, still like it but it's like stephen king on amphetamines
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>>159618460
Cult is great, but lovecraftian shit doesn't really mesh well with most vidya
It's like a horror movie where they have a big dumb cg monster that's constantly on screen, it's not very good horror
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>>159619054
I read Proust mate. I'm used to long-winded descriptions.
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>>159619068
bloodborne was pretty dope as far as lovecraftian-esque videogames go
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>>159619149
Only in the "muh gothic tentacle monsters" sense
Kind of hard to have both indescribable otherworldly horrors as well as physical monsters that you sword to death
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>>159618712
Medbay is the real cult nest.
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>>159618712
Secluded, very little interaction between members by default, easy access to guns, stuns and no-camera zones.
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>>159619203
d-did you play it anon?
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>>159619263
>Implying I was dumb enough to buy a machine with one game
No, of course not, but please explain to me how having clear depictions of the monsters everywhere all the time is, like, totally lovecraftian, dude
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>It takes more to get someone banned if they're a regular in the discord

do you feel this statement is true?
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>>159619506
No but I feel they're judged less harshly if they're a discord regular
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>>159619506
Of course it is
It doesn't matter who it is, anyone is going to be more lenient or more patient with people they know and like
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>>159619387
considering it's not until the blood moon rises and you become aware of what's actually going on that you start to see those creatures, it's pretty lovecraftian, dude.

like straight up, a mix of like 3 or 4 different stories.
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>>159619068
Amnesia went in the right direction.
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>>159619578
Lovecraftian horror was about the reader not being aware of what's actually going on, and definitely not about power fantasies
Kind of takes the punch out of it when cthulu is plainly visible right in front of you, has a health bar, and can be wrecked in one on one combat
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How hard would it be to learn how to fix bugs if you have no idea how to code in byond?
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>>159619719
Which is why it's Lovecraft lite, not "classic" Cosmic Horror
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>>159619810
So easy that Celt did it four times
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>>159619810
Not that hard, as the coders how to do it and they'll teach you
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Do surfer and emilia use the discord?
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>>159619834
And that's dumb
It's why every hipster indie game with "lovecraft influences" is garbage
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>>159620149
>>159619586
>can't fight the monsters
>can't even look at them without your character going insane
>don't know what's going on until the very end
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>>159620149
I disagree. Cosmic horror is a good genre but a bit narrow, it's good to take some libertied with it.

>>159620261
Amnesia is a walking simulator, what matters is the immulsion.
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>>159620130
No
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>>159620130
emilia does, desperately wants in the metaclub
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Well my pAI buddy, I hope I wasn't too boring for ya. That virus was really slowing me down at the end and I doubt I could've robusted Logan even at full strength
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Okay, I'm now on my third day of trying to into "Dying in a Cave Simulator"
My experience has upgraded me from being killed by the environment around my spawn all the way up to the lofty heights of being killed by monsters in the environment around my spawn
My most recent adventure had me chased by a thing that spit fire, which lead me to being attacked by a bunch of invisible things that hide in the darkness, which then led me to the bottom of a river, where I was eaten by a hydra before I could drown
I still don't think I'm much closer to actually playing the game
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>defense mode durand
>dies in <2 normal egun charges
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so

if you get put in a mech as an MMI

you aren't bound to any ai/cyborg laws, so you are bound to server rules, right?
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>>159620630
yes
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>>159620630
Yep. Don't go ripley though, its awful.
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>>159620643
>>159620653
as an MMI, are you still considered a traitor for all intents and purposes?
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>>159620689
If you were a tater before you went in, sure.
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>>159620689
Yes.
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>>159620689
Yes.
If someone puts a traitor's brain in a mech they are a huge dumbass.
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>>159620653
>can drill walls and everything else
It's alright. I'd rather be a ripley than a durand/gygax.
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>>159620725
>hey pal
>put my brain in this phazon, would you?
i can see the awful battery being a huge issue though, why bother when you can just stay human and use it
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>>159620791
Durands / gygaxes can be equipped with drills, and are more robust than ripleys.
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>>159620791
No seriously, you cant use computers. You will be useless if you want to be useful to the crew.
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>be scientist
>hatch borer
>ghost out of body and into borer

Is this considered shit behavior?
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>>159620943
enjoy your ban
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>>159614130
Keep that bird away from me I don't want salmonella
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>>159620943
at least do research first
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>>159620923
You could ask the AI nicely to send your mining shuttle, if that's the only problem.

You can also fight blobs and aliens reasonably well.
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>>159620943
>not even having the decency to space yourself
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>late night low pop
>Sign up as sec
>Find out the clown has all access and is honking all over the bridge
>Start chasing the clown (which never ends well)
>Eventually, after a long game of cat and mouse, catch the slippery honker
>At this time, reports of a loose canon virologist spreading viruses comes in
>Secure the virologist
>Decide i'm spread way too thin to do any sec work and deputize the clown
>Allow him to keep his all access in return for a Clown/security alliance
>Old man Logan comes to me with a dead body by the name of Roger Wilco
>he explains to me he was a traitor and tosses me his PDA to confirm
>I look at the PDA, and sure enough, Roger is a traitor
>Notice the ID is missing from the PDA and think to myself that Logan framed Roger to throw me off his trail
>At this time, I get sucked into virologist drama
>All of a sudden, the mime shows up in the brig and I deputize him also
>Tell the mime to go investigate Logan while I deal with other shit
>I'm dead set on believing Logan is the traitor and start hunting him
>Mimes headless corpse is found
>Poor lad flew to close to the sun
>I throw on a hardsuit and dedicate myself to finding Logan, who is in space circling the station
>More bodies showing up so I start to doubt Logan is the killer because he's not on the station
>A virus is unleashed on the station, causing people to vomit spiders
>Walk in on Fritzl, a scientist, doing shady shit to the clown
>tells me she defended herself and hurt the clown badly and needs to do surgery to fix him
>Observe the "surgery" and tell her if the clown dies, so will she
>Clown wakes up from chloral and says she's trying to kill him
>At this point, I don't know what's going on
>Logan flies up to the window from space as I contemplate suicide
>Gives me old man wisdom saying "A good sec officer stays cool. You're running out of time."
>Decide to postpone my suicide and get on the shuttle
>Turns out, Roger was a traitor and so was Fritzl
>Completely outplayed
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>>159621039
Can't use lever for minerals. You gotta have your hand held pretty hard.
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>>159621139
>max suit sensors
>yell "MEDBAY HELP I'M DYING IN SPACE"
>space yourself without internals
Better?
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>>159621415
I didn't say you had to tell anyone about it. Just disappear your body so we think you're the traitor or something
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>>159621578
Or leave a note/tell people
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>>159621226
>Clown wakes up from chloral and says she's trying to kill him
>At this point, I don't know what's going on
It was pretty obvious what was going on right there and then.
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Can a security officer quit their job and become private security for a crewmember or trader?
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>>159622338
If you do it literally every round you might get jobbanned from Security. Otherwise you should be fine.

If you want to be extra extra certain, ahelp and ask the admins.
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>>159622338
>loyalty implant
And it would mean that you give up almost all of your stuff, including jumpsuit and PDA
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>>159622338
Sure, why not. The only roles you really shouldn't quit are heads and AI/borgs
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>>159622427
>implying loyalty implant does anything except durning revs and cult.
You can implant a confirmed traitor and they can go out and start murdering.
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>>159622472
>mfw I regularly see people actually doing this, thinking it removes their traitor status
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>>159622338
I kinda want to be a security guard for the traders.
>CAW! MR. OF SECURE MAN PLEASE REMOVING!
>Okay boss
>get paid money from jewing bird bros
sounds fun
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>>159622602
>confirmed traitor
>get chemical implanted and thrown onto the roid
>told if I come back he'll kill me
>go back anyway
>kills me under asimov
>completely screws him over all round
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Space law doesn't exist on the trader shuttle, yes? Since it is not part of the station
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>>159622472
Muh roleplay
And that should be grounds for a ban
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>>159622729
Traders are not protected under space law, so security can rough them up more than normal.
They can randomly search their shuttle, too.
If a crewmember starts killing a trader, you don't have to stop them. Or you can, if you want.
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>>159622760
On a med-rp server, yeah. But we're hippie RP.
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>>159622760
Is it "muh roleplay" when revs get a big message saying they've been deconverted?
It doesn't make traitors loyal because that's not what it's designed to do
If it was, it would
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>>159623118
>It doesn't make traitors loyal because that's not what it's designed to do
it's literally an implant that makes you loyal to NT
that's what it says on the tin
when you get it implanted it tells you "You feel a surge of loyalty towards NT"
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>>159622791
that's beyond fucking retarded on so many levels
>they aren't protected by space law but still have to conform to space law

I think you're wrong, retard.
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>>159623330
But it literally does nothing to warrant admin intervention.
It does nothing but deconvert revs and prevent revification and being in a cult.
Everything else is just text.
You can implant a greytider and they'll still go fucking around like a tard.
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>>159623330
Then make a feature request asking to make loyalty implants actually remove traitor status with CODE, like how it works for rev.
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>>159610271

That's good to know, I'm not him and was also thinking about picking it up.
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>>159623330
"Surge" don't say anything about how long it lasts
It doesn't de-antag you, so it doesn't make you not a traitor, period
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>>159623401
>mfw we've come full circle back to dwarf fortress
>>
>dwarf shitposters are back
so this is the power... of low...pop.
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>>159623357
No one's FORCED to follow the law, but if you break it then security will be on them.
Let's take an example:
A) Clown steals shit, so sec stuns them and puts them in brig for the correct time in space law (or close to it)
B) Trader steals shit, sec can harmbaton them, if they have a good reason, can search their ship for contraband, and confiscate what they see fit.

Think about it like this: traders are to sec as non-humans are to asimov silicons. They're suppose to be treated with minimum respect, but they're not going to be properly nice/respectful to them.
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>>159623579
I never left
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>>159623373
My point is just against "that's not what it's designed to do" because it obviously is, just not in terms of hard game mechanics or server rules.

>>159623385
It's probably 2stronk, doubt that'd ever happen.

>>159623458
It's an implant that makes you loyal to NT, the only reason it doesn't do anything is because we barely enforce any RP standards.
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>>159623638
>It's probably 2stronk
But think about what you're asking here.

You want us to enforce RP for the loyalty implants, which means that if a traitor gets implanted, they'd have to stop doing traitorous things, or face a ban.

How would that admin policy not be just as "2stronk" as the code solution?
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>>159623638
>the only reason it doesn't do anything is because we barely enforce any RP standards.
The reason it doesn't do anything is because it would be OP as fuck
Anon, there is literally no difference between doing this in the game mechanics and enforcing it in RP, in fact, it would be far, far easier to do it in the game mechanics
You are retarded
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Cannon needs to get buffed, it's way too weak at the moment.

I loaded it up with max fuel, and launched a toolbox at myself from one space away.

Didn't break any bones or anything.

Barely even hurt.
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>>159623741
I'm just arguing semantics, man, nothing more.

>>159623806
>The reason it doesn't do anything is because it would be OP as fuck
agreed
>there is literally no difference between doing this in the game mechanics and enforcing it in RP
I know
>You are retarded
??
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>>159623601
human traders when
fuck vox
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>>159623837
Currently the cannon does about twice the damage that the blunderbuss does at comparable fuel levels.

Unfortunately the cannon is capped to 10u fuel, and the blunderbuss deals shit damage with only 10u fuel in it.

Make a feature request if you feel that it should be buffed.
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>>159623858
So, to recap
You know it would be op as fuck, but you want it anyway

I hope that answers your question, retard
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What do you guys think a grue should look like?
It's got to be human-shaped, but other than that.
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>>159624129
no, to recap:
>It doesn't make traitors loyal because that's not what it's designed to do
is a stupid sentence
>>
What mechanic / thing in the game do you think needs to be redesigned to fit the principle of least astonishment and how?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment
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>>159624167
muk from pokemans
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>>159624257
But it literally doesn't do that
Anon do you need help
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>>159624321
It's got to be human-shaped so that it conforms to the existing item overlay placement standards.
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>Reading logs because it is fun
>Find out that kolith is an asshole in msay and ahelps.
:Thinking:
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>>159624430
Anyone who knew kolith from the discord knew he was an asshole long before he was made an admin
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>>159623638
>this is what it's obviously designed to do
>but it would be too strong
Make up your mind, it literally can't be both. You're making no sense.
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>>159624430
literally just memes at people
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>>159624430
It's funny to read his responses to things like he isn't an 18 year old trying to sound wise by spouting inane bullshit ad nauseum.
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>>159624430
>TFW at best I sound like a bitter player in logs

Feels good to know I'll never be mentioned here, for good or bad, static or not.
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Everything hurts
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>>159625310
You cannot hide mustardnigger
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>>159626182
>>
>be Ironmonger, the HoP
>severely depressed, go to steal all of the stations money from the money server
>captain walks in on me doing it but doesnt notice
>challenge them to a fistfight because theres nothing going on
>they beat me pretty bad in the ring and I die
>CMO Lane Riker is fucking amazing and has me back to full health in about 20 seconds
>pick up a matter demolecularizer in medbay and try to shoot myself in the mouth with it
>its out of ammo
>go to botany and decide to eat every single weed
>Riker saves me again
>decide to make some dionas
>realize my reason for living was because I love Dionas
>they are just so delicious when deep fried
>later
>get autotraitored with the objective to have fun
>decide to buy detomax cartridge but I cant figure out how it works so I ask over central
>captain tells me how it works
>thankfully I bomb the CMO and steal his ID
>decide to put a fuel tank next to the IAA in escape and then blow up his PDA
>have a great idea to give a welder to a diona I had saved from the fryer and throw him into escape next to the welding fuel tank with orders to suicide bomb escape
>he actually does it
>while getting an exosuit to navigate the hole in escape the QM asks me to help him bring corgis to escape
>I decide to slaughter his five corgis because I cant pick them up
>he corners me in cargo with his drill mech
>bullshit that its the only way to carry them all to escape and then we can laz them
>he actually agrees
>we get to escape and the shuttle arrives, we revive the corgis
>CMO hops out of his Odysseus, I snatch him with it, the QM also hops out of his mining machine and I snag him too
>last 14 seconds I leave them in escape outside the shuttle
>literally everyone on the shuttle is in a mech
>durand blows my brains out for hitting a window trying to space myself

>fail traitor objective of doing fun things
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>>159626661
I forgot since I always ignore objectives, my B.
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>>159626661
>playing a head role just to try to die
Should've been banned desu
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>>159626998
>that mattering at all on dead hours extended with no antags
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Dear HoPs

Give IAAs engineering access on Box. The vacant office near arrivals is comfy as fuck. If they explicitly state why they want it, they probably aren't doing sketchy shit. Most of the time, I'm able to get to the desk before traitors are even picked.
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>>159629215
>I'm able to get to the desk before traitors are even picked
I'm pretty sure traitors are picked immediately when the round starts.
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>>159629294
There's always a delay, whenever I get picked. Usually it's not until the lights have been on for a few seconds.
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>>159629215
>engineering access just to repair a fucking office
just order an electrical maintenance crate you shit
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>>159629579
>just to repair
The vacant office requires Engineering access to open the DOORS.
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>>159629215
the vacant office door doesn't use engineering access iirc
I think it uses construction
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>>159629742
I always asked for engineering and it's always worked, so there's that I guess
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>>159627914
>thinking all heads are there just to stop antagonists
that's not why they're an important role for round progression ellamao
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>>159624454
>>159622791
>They can randomly search their shuttle, too.
One time I refused to let a captain random search of my shuttle on code green
He lasered me to death then got some sort of job ban iirc
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>>159623357
consider the following
1) station is a top secret research outpost of NT
2) space law is company law
3) birds are not NT personnel
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>>159601408
Good, now I'll finally be able to play an even worse version of Taxi, where there are no taxis.
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>>159630141
>top secret
niggawatt
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Post the most "worth it" way to get yourself lynched.

Pic unrelated
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I am still a bit of newfag in this game, I heard you can insert a coin into a vending machine for special itmes you can't get even by hacking the machine, so I wanted to ask, where can I find coins?
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>>159632247
You can make em from minerals on the roid
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>Clusterfack again merging a PR with more downvotes than upvotes

https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12307
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>>159632385
>You can make em from minerals on the roid
How do I make them exactly though?
As I said, I'm still quite a newfag in this game.
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>>159632808
There's a mint in the aft section of the area where you dock, put the minerals on the left side of the machine then click the machine and activate.
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How many uses are there is an emag ?
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>>159632985
Alright, thanks for the help.
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>>159633085
infinite
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>>159632671
Cluster + PR maker + 2 others vs 3 downvotes ?
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Santiago Davies says, "8===>"
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>>159632671
>Every greyshit now has a private autolathe
oh jesus
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>>159633429
benis.
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>>159591112
Order guns, get your ass beat by security. Scream about being unlawfully detained. Get spaced by a borg who's sick of listening to your shit.
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>>159626487
Not him mate, dont even know who he is.
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>play sec for the first time ever
>takes me a while but I figure out how to cuff people and taze and shieeet but I do it
>arrest a few people for attempted and actual murder
>halfway into the shift I start getting annoyed by all the blatant shittery I'm seeing
>harm baton a suspect for murder in the mouth for giving me lip, take his teeth
>he gets shoved in the brig
>he gets arrested later for the same shit. while other sec officers are debating whether or not to permabrig him I space the faggot with the help of a sec-borg by convincing him that if this shitter is allowed to go free then human harm will result
>begin patrolling maint. tunnels with my bloody stun baton on and set to harm and a teeth necklace halfway complete. anyone who isnt the janitor is getting beaten
>round ends when singuloose
I think I might have turned into shifcurity midway into my first shift. What do?
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>>159633257
Alright, I thought the wiki said only 3 to 4.
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>>159634641
It lies just like it lies when it said paralysis sting makes it so people cant scream for help, which made me die 5 minutes into a 3 hour round during my first time is ling and goddamn im still mad about that shit.
>>
Reminder that the waifus will turn against eachother. Lizelle already hates Surfer, and Emilia hates Reica, and Reica hates everyone.
>>
I have never played SS13 before. Is there any way to spectate and just watch shit happen, totally hands-off?
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>>159634941
Yes, you can observe in the lobby screen. You'll join as a ghost who doesn't have to do anything.
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>>159634941
No. We're not accepting new players, go away.
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>>159634941
How about you don't play here and shit up our server faggot?

I'm tired of incompetant fucks taking up department spaces when we need people who know what they're doing to get things done. You quiet motherfuckers don't even ask for help or call for help when you're feeding antags.

Go be a dumb shit somewhere else
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>>159634941
Yes. Hit Observe. Or if that's too hard for you, pick assistant and type suicide, and then ghost.

It's better to just be an assistant though. You can do whatever you want.
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>>159634941
yeah you can just observe
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>>159635059
>>159635146

I'm not looking to join and play, I'd go bug /tg/ or get on some other server. I just want spess TV.
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>>159634434
Try being nicer to those you have arrested, no matter how awful they're treating you, don't stoop to their level, give them their basic rights, don't bucklecuff them unless they will try to mess things up.
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>>159634434

What real life cops do: grit your teeth and do your job.
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>>159635264
>try being nicer
>implying shits like them deserve to be treated with any kind of respect
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>>159634937
>Lizelle already hates Surfer
Not really, from what I've seen.

>>159634941
Observe tab, alternatively, just play a low-interaction, low-demand job like Virologist to learn the controls (do announce IC that you're a newbie and people will usually understand.)
Assistant or any civilian staff is also a good choice, if you don't get in trouble.
Always adminhelp.

>>159635146
t. jobfag
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>>159635348
And that's how you become shitcurity.
Don't stoop to their level, be better than they are.
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>>159635347
I was doing my job, I was just doing it more efficiently. They greytider cannot tide if he is dead.
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>>159634641
>>159634704
Ah, newfags
Emags used to be 3-4 use. It's not a lie, it's even crossed out on the wiki.
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>>159635740
>crossed out
Why not just outright remove the line instead of leaving an ambiguous statement
>yes, it has only 3 uses, but RELY ON IT NONETHELESS
is what I understand.
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>>159634434
>I space the faggot with the help of a sec-borg
>borg allows harming a human
BANNU
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>>159635935
>letting someone guilty of double homicide have the chance to do it again
We were preventing human harm, anon :^)
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>>159636108
And causing it as well
Unless you spaced him in a welded locker
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>>159636204
>Unless you spaced him in a welded locker
Correct.
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>>159635935
>>159636204
Whatever
No one ban requests anything anymore
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>>159636253
Well it's fine then, no harm caused, harm prevented, valids collected.
What if you started spacing people as engiborg in welded lockers?
You aren't causing harm, you're preventing human harm by making sure no human interacts with anything harmful
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I think tg's lavaland just made me realize exactly what I want from this game
>Station crashes into a more habitable section of the planet
>Only command really survives intact, other departments are built from scratch in a castle-like structure around it, with limited supplies
>For whatever reason, centcom tells them no you can totally rebuild
>Several jobs have to take advantage of the natural resources of the planet to do their jobs, some reduced to basically practicing magic with the esoteric bullshit they find
>Teams have to go leave the station z-level to trade or fight with other native and non-native civilizations, and to get supplies from a variety of dangerous environments, including ruined sections of the crashed station
Basically I want Space Station: Survive
But like, without the creatively bankrupt corporate bloodsucking part
And judging by the success other people have had in getting "like the normal station but in a different environment" maps, it will never ever happen
>>
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/12499
Too much Guinness ?
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>>159636369
SS13 is a disaster simulator, not a survival game
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>>159636341
what. lockers don't protect you from outerspace
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>>159636341
That's taking Asimov's laws to their logical extreme conclusion.

You now have to kill Vox, Greys, and everything that isn't human. Otherwise, at some point in their existence, they could conceivable harm a human being.

Also all human crewmembers must be contained to one area of the station where they can be continually monitored to ensure that no harm comes to them.
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>playing any Medical/Security role when you have a short temper
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>>159636481
You can't have one without the other, I just want more of the part that's about playing the game rather than the one that's about ending it
And the actual "disasters" are the one part of gameplay that is consistently complained about, from bombs to plasma leaks to lings, people hate that shit because it stops them from having fun
The actual meat of the original game is more about paranoia, and I think we've long since moved past that
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>>159636982
>playing any Medical/Security role when there's an admin online with a short temper
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>>159636982
After a few rounds of dying to antags, being security for just one round and harmbatoning greytiders is cathartic in a way you will never understand.
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>>159637064
Please, the game has always been about the hilarious ways it can fail. Look at the singularity, which is basically designed to eat the station.
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>>159637084
>playing when there's an admin online with a short temper
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>>159637064
>The actual meat of the original game is more about paranoia, and I think we've long since moved past that
I think this too right up until I hear the clown walking past me down a maint. tunnel I know he shouldn't have access to.

Whatcha doin' there, Willy?
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>>159637064
I don't think ss13 is the game for you fampai
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>>159637107
>you will never understand.
Probably. I don't care if I die or not, usually. I'm just happy when something works, and don't care if doesn't.
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>>159637161
And everyone hates singuloose
It's the most OP threat in the game, people have complained about it for years
The only reason people even use it is because it's boring-tier easy to set up and maintain and produces large levels of power
>>
Can you view your own notes, or is it an admin-only tool ?
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>>159637298
Is SS13 the game for people who like to make slimes fug or bartenders who like to actually bartend?
What about detectives who want to solve crimes instead of be security lite, or miners who want to play pokemon/mine? Is it the game for them?
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>>159638039
You can ahelp and ask for your notes in a pastebin

Admins don't care, chances are nobody even knows who you are
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>>159620630
>you aren't bound to any ai/cyborg laws
Posibrains are still required to be helpful, pacifistic, non-cunts.
But yes, no laws.
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>>159638151
no because muh validz
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>>159635146
New blood isn't bad because it's new, mate.
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>>159638151
SS13 is, apparently, a game where you roleplay a burned-out psycho who needs to release their impotent rage.
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>>159638389
I'm 99% sure it's Aisla Douchebag that is being that post
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>>159638389
>letting mudbloods dilute our pure server
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>>159620689
Even as a silicon, you would still be an antag.

Your laws would get to shit all over your objectives,
but you're welcome fulfil any that don't oppose your laws.
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>>159638396
I think the only time ive ever felt murderous rage was when the clown shoved me into a pipe that went around in a 4 square circle.

He's lucky sec got to him before the mob did.
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>>159621003
>xenobio
>doing research
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>>159638151
You're free to do all of that as far as I know. but slimes don't fug
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>>159638690
I would have laughed.
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>>159638621
This seems misleading. A silicon can do ANYTHING that doesn't oppose its laws so this changes nothing. On the other hand, you can't blow a borg or order it to space itself just because the brain inside used to be a human antag. That is to say, once borged, they aren't valid anymore.
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>>159638752
They fug themselves
And, at least in a sense, the monkey corpses do too
>>
>>159638859
hot
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>>159623385
And then everyone got force implanted every round.
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>>159638821
It was funny looking back on it by the clonging noise was so annoying all i could think of was murder
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>viro vamp
>viro blows ass
>go cargo
>cargo sucks
>succ the mime
>BLOBS
>go sec
>shard explodes
>escape shuttle called
>succ the chef who made no food all shift
>board shuttle, sit next to my target
>diseased touch
>he gives me the Bison
>goodie two shoes paramedic tries to save him
>laser the last of his health
>SCREECH and dodge a ripley the rest of the way to victory
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>>159639235
Fluff rationalisation : these implants are costly and can't be widespread because of ethnical reasons
Gameplay fix : make an implant very hard to make, and working only with the Captain swiping his id
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>>159638859
While we're on the subject, does /vg/ have slime commands, or is that tg only? I know you faggots didn't port the time stop sepia core reaction
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>>159634937
>>159635373
Naww, what I said yesterday about Surfer was dumb, rude and uncalled for and I apologize. I have no bad blood with anyone except a Sec shitter or two. I've spent most of my waking life playing video games and I dont have much emotional attachment to them anymore, even in high stress situations like semi-comp CS and Dota matches ... if you ever see me upset it's probably a RP thing
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>>159639608
>time stop sepia core reaction
That sounds actually retarded
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>>159639650
Kill yourself
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>>159639650
marry me
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>>159639664
It'd give sepia slimes an actual use.
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>>159624409
Not that Anon, but still doable.

Give the model an extra overlay above the clothes.
Mostly down by the legs of the model, I guess.
Use it to make clothes seem to sink into the slime.

(Make sure everything is still partially visible though, even the shoes)

>>159624167
I, personally, would go for something spindley with talons.
Not sure how to make that work with the model constraints though.
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>>159639650
Kill me
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>>159639664
>Fun wizard spells available to the crew in limited quantities
No anon, it's amazing
It also doesn't really last that long, though I don't know how long their actual time stop spell lasts to make a comparison
And it's one step closer to medieval station
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>>159624167
>he doesn't know what a grue looks like
Get the hell out of here, you might need it.
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>>159626661
>literally everyone on the shuttle is in a mech
Should've stolen one of those mechs you left in escape.
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>>159639478
And then every cult/rev round became a faceroll.
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>>159639478
>can borg anyone
>need a captain to implant someone
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>>159638752
>He doesn't know what ricky did.
Slimes fug alright.
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>>159632247
Go to arrivals, the Getmore Chocolate Corp vendor sells two functional coins.
Just be careful not to eat them when you try to use them.

Also of note, you can use a wire on a coin to get a 50% of keeping to coin at each use.
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>>159639650
I'm the sec shitter aren't i?

:(
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>>159639235
>>159639478
Why loyalty implants clearing tator would be awful, these are just off the top of my head:
>F1: "WOW why did sec kill me they could have just implanted me instead BAN HE". Every fucking round.
>Borging is fine because you cannot "just" borg an innocent. It has severe downsides to the player, it's a big commitment.
>Two minutes ago this asshole was murdering everyone with an esword+ebow and now he's chilling in the bar, don't worry guys im good now :). Immulsions pretty fucking shattered
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>>159640636
naww don't worry, they know who they are. Don't take it personally if I call you a pig and all that shit
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>>159640308
fugging a slime =/= slimes fug
>>
how do I decide between spawn and sleep while coding?
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Is there a way to recolor or at the very least rename a time-release pill?
I feel pretty retarded using a hand labeler on them
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>>159638734
>look at my speshul snowflake title! I'm not a scientist! I do what I want!
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>>159641212
>not a scientist
but they are a scientist, anon, they research xenobiology
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>>159641385
They also do R&D, if they are the only scientist
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>>159641635
Not if they don't know how, and xenobiology is the only thing they know how to do.
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>>159641723
They're fucking awful scientists if they can only do xenobio.
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>>159641723
They look up a guide, ask for assistance or get yelled at this time to do it properly next time.
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>>159641723
R&D TAKES
FIVE
FUCKING
MINUTES
LITERALLY FIVE
FUCKING
MINUTES
AND THE ENTIRE PROCESS IS DOCUMENTED THREE TIMES OVER IN THE WIKI
AND ALL OF IT IS LITERALLY
PRESSING
BUTTONS
IN
ORDER
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>>159641095
>>159641095
>>159641095
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>>159641095
>>159642108
You use spawn
You don't decide
You only use sleep in very specific circumstances where you know what you're doing and you don't know what you're doing and not in one of those circumstances
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>>159642108
Sleep if you are tired of coding,
Spawn if you died while coding.
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>>159642202
thanks
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>>159641940
>>159641840
>>159641809
research is the most complicated thing for me in science and i have trouble following the guide on the wiki
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>>159642340
you see those item names that are printed in bold letters
you make those items
then you put them in the destructive analyzer and hit "analyze"
that's it
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>>159642340
Just look at the first and second subheaders, you yokel.
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>>159642340
>make item with research
>put item into destructive analyzer
>it gives you new research
>make new item with new research
and as the wiki says, you can do all of this without even leaving the room, because some circuit boards give you all the research you'll ever need and you can MAKE a chem dispenser for the sulfuric acid
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>>159642340
You use the item on the DA, you access the console and open the DA menu in there, namely "Destructive Analyzer", in which you press the "proceed" button and choose "yes" in the newly open window, it is literally that for every item in the list on the wiki, there are better lists out there though, experimentation is also a good way of helping yourself get used to finishing research after others buggered off halfway through
>>
Is there a list of streamed music anywhere? There are like 5 songs on the escape shuttle that I need to know and no one answers me when I ask on the serb
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>>159642792
http://ss13.pomf.se/media/source/emagged/THEME_OF_SCOTLAND_SCOTLAND_FOREVER_SCOTLAND_REMIX_medium.m4a
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>>159642564
>>159642526
>>159642483
i understand you have to deconstruct stuff but that's about it, if I try to do it it takes over an hour
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>>159642962
how
literally fucking how
you are following the guide right?
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>>159642340
Pic of a method. Somewhat outdated it seems because you can swap the plasma cutter with a pacman generator circut and you make 3 chem sprays to max out illegal.
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>>159642962
You are talking out of your arse, this game might be for mentally damaged people, but I've yet to see an actual retard playing it
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>>159642962
IT
DETAILS
WHICH
THINGS
TO
DECONSTRUCT
ON
THE
WIKI
We're only spoonfeeding you this hard because there aren't enough scientists who comprehend how in the first place
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>>159642340
>R&D
>more complicated than literally anything else in science
wew lad.

R&D was the first thing I mastered. I still have no fucking clue how to do xenobio, toxins, or xenoarch. All I can do so far is robotics and R&D.

I need a toxins mentor so I can be the next cuban pete.
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>>159643048
This is a really poor way of doing it, mind you. The blatantly minimal effort put into it shows
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>>159643204
how is it poor?
>>
QUICK
SUM UP THE OPTIMAL STRATEGY TO THE JOB YOU'RE THE WORST AT WITH ONLY 20 WORDS OR LESS
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>>159643167
dude bombs lmao
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>>159643308
just be yourself
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>>159643029
>>159643127
fuck me, i've been following the wrong guide, even then I don't have a great memory and have to constantly tab out and back in just to make sure I'm doing it in order
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>>159643308
Security
Live and let live
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>>159643308
pomfcoin unlocks!
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>>159643167
Speak to DeadPoo, he's got a good grasp on it and he isn't one of the loonies, who misguide you and make you believe silly things like that mixing in gases other than oxygen and plasma can yield a better result. Really, it's all about theoretical work - you get a set of equations and you work on them, you sometimes pop onto your private test server, where you try out a couple of mixes to see if you've made a trivial mistake.
>>
>>159643308
Viro
just kys my man
>>
A roboticist has to have some sort of medical training, doesn't he ? To remove brains and stuff.
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>ex-fagmin waifu player welderbombs robotics as nonantag after getting absolutely buttblasted
>dayban

???

Is this the power... of the ERP metaclub?
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>>159643204
Then post a list for the poor anon. I'm just posting it because I had it from a while back.
Also isn't rnd methods just like cryo mix autism? Like there is no single perfect method.
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>>159643308
Run around the room and throw anything you can pick up at your opponent. Don't try to kill them, do try to slip them and steal their shoes.
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>>159643507
you literally just need to know how to remove brains
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>>159643167
Bombs are capped you nigger, there won't be another Cuban Pete.
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>>159643507
>>159643565
Would also be cool if you could be able to handle robotic limbs and advanced organs.
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>>159643565
I was talking IC, in game, in immulsions
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>>159643462
deadpool can only make an 8dev LMAO
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>>159643308
SECURITY
HARMBATON ANYTHING GREY
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>>159643308
Chaplain

Hope there's a cult/vamper breakout within the first 15 minutes, otherwise walk around begging for seemingly random objects each department while whispering sweet little satanisms into the admins' ears
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>>159643537
>no perfect cryo mix
But anon, you see
I clearly have the perfect cryo mix all along
12.68u cryoxadone, 20.9u clonexadone, 11.2u alkysine, 4.44u vomit, 12.2293u ramen, 29u ryetalyn, grind up all the pills into one beaker and pour remaining 8.38475u into cryomix
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>>159643537
>Also isn't rnd methods just like cryo mix autism? Like there is no single perfect method.
Exactly the opposite
R&D has one common, immediate and obvious goal
You aren't graded on anything besides how fast you max research.
So yes, the perfect method is the one that maxes research faster, obviously
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>>159643676
>implying you need more than the bombcap
>>
>>159643761
>with only 20 words or less
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>>159643272
It's using three mech syringe guns, a rather expensive item material-wise, which has you either bother the roboticist or get out of your cave to get it yourself. It uses Nanopaste for engineering too, that's another high cost item, but I for the life of me can't remember what you use to replace it other than a plasma cutter. Really, when it comes to R&D strategies, the difference in either time taken or metal and glass used goes mostly unnoticed, since, if need be, you can easily acquire either.

>>159643537
There most certainly is a perfect method, it's just that it differs from situation to situation. The telecomms way seems most appealing when you have the access due to its speed and simplicity: three ansibles, reciever and transmitter boards, two transmitters and the rest is standard. A while back I found this guide by searching on pastebin, it taught me a great deal: http://pastebin.com/giT5CypH
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>>159643518
>banning admin is known for playing a waifu shitter RD
rely makes you think...
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>>159643763
You are fucking retarded and incompetent.
>latejoin as chemist
>walk into medbay
>find a functioning cryomix already made
>blankstare at the tubes for 10 seconds before spilling the cryomixes onto the floor
>walk over to the chemdispenser with the beakers
>blankstare for 30 seconds
>press random buttons until a sizeable pile of pills falls out
>stuff pills into the beaker at random until full
>leave the second empty beaker on the floor
>stuff new mix into the left tube
>walk out of an airlock
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>>159643308
1. Panic because you have the worst job
2. Check to see if you have officers
3. Panic even more because you don't
4. Stress out while on patroll
5. Stress out following up on leads
6. Die alone.
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>>159643676
He got there fair and square and he understands the process of both combustion and gas mixing, that's more than I can say for most of the 20dev coolkid club
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>>159644142
rly gets the neurons sizzling..
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>>159644085
>using mech syringe guns, the single most important trick in R&D, is bad
i don't give a fuck if you're just baiting or legitimately stupid, but there are actual new players listening to the garbage you're spouting and people shouldn't have to reply to you and clarify that they shouldn't take any of it seriously
shitposts like this are how we get people actually thinking putting ryetalyn in a mix is bad, we don't need your shitposting to spread
>>
>>159644209
hello deadpool!
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>>159644350
Have you got any arguments besides "I say so"? How are ansibles and transmitters worse than the syringe guns?
>>
>>159644439
Haai!! I'm not DeadPool!
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>>159644529
Mech syringe guns cost metal and glass. Subspace gubbins cost metal, glass, and silver.
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>>159644529
it's significantly slower
it's significantly more complex
i say so
you are niggering parts from telecomms and 100% fucking guaranteed you're not replacing them and they won't be there the one time people need them
it's significantly slower
it's significantly more complex
i say so
you are pinching a loaf saving fucking pennies' worth of metal and glass
it's significantly slower
it's significantly more complex
i say so
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>>159643581
A 4 tile cap won't stop me, I'll just make more bombs to compensate.
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>>159644719
This nigger.

Its metal and glass, literally just spawn slightly after roundstart and nigger it from pods, its cheap as fuck anyways.
>>
>>159644719
oh and the very very obvious reason I managed to miss, YOU NEED TELECOMMS ACCESS FOR IT AND YOU CAN'T EVEN HACK IN
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>>159644085
>>159644719
>That paste
Thats a fuckload of running around and will likely take much longer than making the three syringe guns.
Also >>159643048 is the second guide on the wiki put into a png with some changes it seem.
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>>159644686
They lie about telecomms free of charge, walking there takes less time than printing the syringes.
>>159644719
You can't repair the telecomms, it's broken, has been for a while, so there is no need to fret over the spare parts not being there, especially since there never were enough to fix telecomms. I can understand the "I do things my way and don't want to change" argument, it is my main one as well.
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>>159644904
Ya wanna race, big guy?
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>>159645005
>I can understand the "I do things my way and don't want to change" argument, it is my main one as well.
my sincere congratulations on not only dropping every single point thrown your way but invalidating your lone own point too, it's very honest and we can bury this stupid garbage argument already

to any newfags actually reading this trite:
JUST USE THREE SYRINGE GUNS
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Guide_to_Research_and_Development#Method_2:_The_Robotics_Kickstart:_Research_For_Robots
THIS THING
>>
>>159645160
UM ACTUALLY DON'T I WAS JUST JOKING GO TO TCOMS?!
>>
>>159645005
>walking there takes less time than printing the syringes.
How long do you think printing three syringes even takes
While the syringes print you can start doing the rest of the research, I like to prepare the chemdispenser frame
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>>159645005
>>159645146
Mech syringe guns take about 2-3 seconds to make, 9 seconds total. At round start it would take about 9 seconds to figure out the wires to hack in if your unlucky looking for test (longer if you get shocked or use the safe signal method).
>>
>>159645370
Good luck hacking the two telecomms doors with turrets on your ass
>>
>>159644845
you ask the AI
or
you ask a borg
or
you go to chemistry
you make some thermite
you hack into RD's and grab his goggles
you thermite through maint into tcomms
you get lynched by sec, grow a pair, stop avoiding responsibility and sign up as RD for next round
>>
>>159645450
oh yes you can do that
or
OR
you can print three syringe guns
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>>159645441
<haxing windoors
>>
>>159645576
chill brah jeez i didn't mean to start anything just go to tcomms bruh its faster
>>
>>159645450
You would need to wait a minute for the AI, since they don't have AI control on anything in telecomms. Borgs can still bump the doors and open them, but shiftclick/click menus don't work for them. They can't touch the turret control there either
>>
>>159645821
Wait a minute for the AI to do what..? You said it can't operate anything in there, are you expecting it to come over and do it manually?
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>>159645716
i just timed it
it's about 40 seconds to syringegun
1 minute 10 to telecomms
without counting the extra time you'd spend DAing the telecomms parts
i invite you to try it yourself
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>>159645941
When you click on a telecomms door as a silicon, it begins some weird "AI control bypass" thing. It takes a minute, then they get access to the door.
But again, no access to the turret controls
>>
post the last screenshot you took
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>>159645716
Tcomms isn't faster at all, get the fucking point.
>Syring gun method
3 seconds to load in materials, 2 seconds to hit syringe guns, 9 seconds to print (built a chem frame while you wait)
Total time: 14 seconds
>Tcomms method
9 sec to figure out wires (add a good 14 if you get shocked and wait for door to unshock), 15 sec to walk to tcomms from rnd, 2 sec to hack door 1, 10 sec to ask ai to turn off turrets, 2 sec to hack door 2, 15 sec to walk back to rnd
Total time: 38 to 52 seconds or more.

This is being very generous on the server conditions having no lag or waiting for windows to update.
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>>159646369
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>>159646369
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>>159646395
the syringe guns take a good 30 seconds to print, the walk from R&D to telecomms also takes 25+ seconds too plus 25 on the way back
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>>159646369
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>>159646560
>MoMMi interacted with slime
Ban this crab NOW
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>>159646369
>>
>>159646369
>Taking screens
>Not letting all your memories fade away like honks in the void
>>
When did you stop caring about shitters in your departmant because you figured out trying to teach them is futile?
>>
>>159646942
i started caring the moment i figured that out
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>>159646942
When I learned to ghetto chem chloral and just throw em out.

sweet shit desu anon
>>
>>159646660
That was one awful round, admins blew all the lights, started to summon monsters like the narnar event, did summon guns, and triggered the bluespace portals thing.
>>
I've got a few questions

Do Dexalin and Dexalin plus stack?

Do Vox have asses?

What is the best counter to a creatine shitter?
>>
>>159647064
Does +infinity stack with +1?
Yes
Grab a fucking ranged gun
>>
>>159647064
Yes
Somehow, yes, chickens do have butts
Smoke Capsicin, Smoke poliacid, smoke activated charcoal, syringe guns with chloral in em, shoot him with kinetics, throw ieds at him, or just shock doors
>>
Emilia-
>>
>>159647064
Dexalin Plus acts immediately and completely neutralizes suffocation damage, but yes.

Vox do have asses.

The best counter for a creatine shitter without having to engage in combat with him is with a syringe of charcoal to purge him of creatine. If he's wearing a hardsuit, use an autoinjector or hypospray.
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>>159646369
How do I activate the stone mask?
I know I need blood but how do I put it on the mask?
Do I also need the gem to go into another stage?
>>
>>159647064
Dexplus completely negates the need for Dexalin as it instantly heals all respiratory damage when metabolized.

So while it will indeed "stack", it will be completely useless to do so.
>>
>>159647210
>>159647250
>getting within close range of a creatine user
Why do you people have to overthink everything in the most stupid ways.
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>>159646369
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>>159647064
>Best counter to creatine
2 syringes from a stringe gun, one with 3u of water and one with 3u of potass, flushes their system to 0u of creatine killing them.
>>
I've been gone for a week, what is all this shit about creatine all of a sudden?
>>
>>159647336
He asked for the best ways, unless you want to just hide till his questionable ammount of creatine fucks off, these are the only solutions that are even remotely viable.
>>
>>159647343
or just one syringe with charcoal
>>159647420
someone posted a list revealing waifus make 300+ units of creatine a month
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>>159647420
An admin went full tryhard creatine/lube/esword as traitor and he's somehow still not deadminned or banned yet
>>
>>159647336
Because if the user is at all robust, they'll be prepared for ranged users. Plus, you can miss with a syringe gun.

>>159647420
A few days ago, a paramedic traitor went full powergame and lubed the halls as an esword-wielding creatine hulk. Because he was wearing a hardsuit and was a hulk, the usual method of dealing with a murderboner were useless. This caused a bit of a stir.
>>
>tfw retarded office manager is in the next room crying about Trump
>m-muh poor spics
ONE MORE DAY

Urge to report him for knowingly hiring illegals rising.
>>
>>159647458
GRAB
A
GUN

HE CAN'T SHOOT BACK
HE CAN'T BEAT BLEEDING
HE PROBABLY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE HYPERZINE/PAINKILLERS FOR BURN PAIN COMA
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>>159647258
put blood in beaker
click mask with beaker while mask is on face
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>>159647597
Don't mate, sometimes even ilegals need a break, don't ruin him and what is likely to be the best job those guys could get just because you are slightly mad about politics.
>>
>>159647581
>"if"
>vs "certainly"
hmm
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>>159647724
t. illegal
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>>159647724
>those guys
Have got to go back. I'll just be hastening it.
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>>159647776
>because certainly the user is at all robust
That makes no sense.
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>>159647620
GUNS
ARE
LIMITED

VERY
FEW
PEOPLE
HAVE
THEM

OTHER
METHODS
ARE
FOR
THOSE
PEOPLE
WHO
HAVE
LESS
CONVENTIONAL
MEANS
BUT
STILL
REMAIN
DECENTLY
PRACTICAL
AND
EFFECTIVE
>>159647789
I have never even been in the states, and god forbid my dumb ass ever goes to that shitty coalition.
>>159647820
Never said they shouldn't, but maybe not now and maybe not fueled by petty politicking anon.
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>>159647581
I could have gotten the paramedic in a suicide pact. I was the traitor as well that round.

Unfortunately it was the first traitor round in forever that I didnt' get my standard explosive implant (im a sore loser so if I fail I fail knowing ill be taking whoevers nearby with me) because i wanted to test out the energy crossbow.
>>
>>159646103
I managed to grab and DA everything from telecomms in a little over two minutes, getting
Mat 6 Eng 3 BS 4 EM 6 Data 5

The syringe guns took me a little over a minute and got me to
Mat 4 Bio 5 EM 5 Data 4

You are right, it is faster to DA the three syring guns, but they don't really have the same yield as the tcomms parts, I don't think you can actually get as far as those get you without the miners' help. To have a fair comparison you'd have to do all of research using either method and then compare the times.
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>>159647597
>hiring mexicans to save a few extra shekels
do it

he is a traitor to the american people
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>>159647985
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>>159647974
>and maybe not fueled by petty politicking anon.
How dare you assume that it would be due to politics and not my immense racism AND politics.

Don't stereotype me you shitlord.
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>>159647985
>traders
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>>159648079
looking at the guides
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Guide_to_Research_and_Development#Method_2:_The_Robotics_Kickstart:_Research_For_Robots
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Guide_to_Research_and_Development#Method_3:_The_Lone_Mechanic_Who_Gives_A_Damn_On_This_Station
it's 10 additional items vs additional 11 items (+4 for combat), and this is with device analyzers
>>
>>159647974
HE ASKED WHAT THE BEST METHOD IS
THERE'S AN ANSWER TO THAT: IT'S GUNS

YOU KNOW WHAT'S EVEN MORE LIMITED
YOU KNOW WHAT EVEN LESS PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO OR WILL BOTHER WITH
YOU KNOW WHAT'S LESS EFFECTIVE AND MORE DANGEROUS
SYRINGE GUNS
AUTOINJECTOR FUCKERY
GRENADES
BASICALLY
ALL THE OTHER METHODS MENTIONED, WHICH ARE NOT THE BEST
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>>159647985
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>>159648454
>guns
>restricted entirely to cargo, security, science, and MAYBE the most autistic of assistants
>security is going to be the first against the wall when the 'bone starts
>cargo is going to stick to cargo, unless specifically attacked
>science is science, and may not have access to guns at all because security is dead

Yes, that definitely works.
>>
>>159648454
WHY WOULD HE ASK FOR MORE EFFECTIVE METHODS WHEN ANYONE WITH A GUN CAN KILL A HULK EASY PEASY LEMON SQUEEZY, IF HE HAD A GUN HE WOULD JUST SHOOT IT AND NOT ASK FOR THE BEST METHOD

DOCS HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF EM, AUTOINJECTORS ARE EVERYWHERE, SYRINGES CAN BE FIRED FROM EXTINGUISHERS LIKE GHETTO SYRINGE GUNS YOU PERSON OF MONGOLIAN DECENT AND WITH EXTRA CHROMOSOMES, GRENADES JUST TAKE SOME MINOR GHETTO CHEM AND FRAMES CAN BE DONE WITH BASIC IRON, CANS ARE 50 UNIT BEAKERS, AND WHO THE CUK HAS NEVER MADE A IED BEFORE

IF HE HAD ACCESS TO THE BEST METHOD, GUNS, HE WOULDN'T ASK YOU ASIAN NIGNOG

FUCKING WIND PISSERS
>>
>>159648792
>polyacidsmoke/charcoal
>restricted entirely to medbay
>medbay is dead because the guy had to hit up medbay to get his creatine
>if he was smart he has a hardsuit or already took the syringe gun
>vs all of those "if"s
Yes, that definitely works.
>>
>>159648792
Don't worry the clown will save us
>>
>>159648274
I guess you could say that the drill and the nanopaste take several times as long to print as the other items, but that's pretty much splitting hairs, you'd be inclined to go into the positioning of items to be printed on the protolathe list. It seems that the two methods are about as good as each other, except one has you bothering the roboticist and the other sends you running around the hallways.
>>
Shouldn't Shaft Miners be renamed to Strip Miners since that's the kind of mining they actually do?
>>
>>159647639
Thank you very much anon.
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>>159648948
>he can't get water/potass using ghettochem

This is why you think begging the Warden for guns is the best solution.
>>
>>159648868
Oh yes I certainly got the impression that that guy already has a gun under his arm when he asks if dexalin and dexalin+ stack, in the same post. That's why you don't even mention guns at all when asked about it.
>>
>>159634937
Emilia here
I don't hate anyone
You are all my top lads
>>
I AM VERY ANGRY ABOUT THINGS RELATED TO THE HAPPENINGS ON THE /VG/SERVER OF SPACE STATION 13

I DO NOT LIKE THE INEFFECTIVE RESPONSE TO CREATINE USERS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS USING

I HAVE NEGATIVE FEELINGS TOWARDS THE FEMALE STATIC-NAMED INDIVIDUALS WHO PERFORM THEIR ROLES INEFFECTIVELY AND LUST FOR THE ATTENTION OF OTHERS

I FIND THE BIASED DECISIONS THAT ADMINS MAKE IN REGARDS TO BAN SEVERITY TO BE RATHER UNPLEASANT AND DISAPPOINTING

WITH THIS, I BRING THIS FORMAL DOCUMENT TO A CLOSE AND BID YOU GOOD DAY
>>
>>159649004
This is a no ERP server, we can't be encouraging people
>>
>>159649080
>there's a hulk on the loose
>i will spend a couple minutes ghettochemming potassium to try to stick him with, instead of just mobbing the armory!
You deserve every murderboner
>>
>>159649165
i am greatly upset at the general effectiveness of creatine, and its almost ubiquitous usage among mundane antagonistic characters, presumably because of the general ease with which it can be made.
>>
tfw dead and alive then dead then alive but died in the pod
>>
>>159649084
If he had a gun, he wouldn't ask for the better way to dispose of hulks, cause he can just bloody kill em like that.

Plus, you underestimate the general knowledge of people who play sec or the average players skill level.
>>159648948
Mate, charcoal is in botany, polyacid takes a fuckload of effort to gheto chem but you can just use plant b gone and it works just as fine.

They are legitimate methods, we never said they were absolutely acessible ones.
>>
Creatine should be consumed at a higher rate if you're running

Cardio kills gains
>>
>>159647064
>make 25u Chloral Hydrate
>Name it "Creatine (10u)"
>?
>Profit
>>
>>159649764
>ten units
you have to take 26 or so units originally and then make sure not to run out of creatine
>>
>>159649862
It's more likely to make them eat it immediately though
>>
>>159649110
You will grow me carrots someday, you elusive shitter.
>>
>went from +60 to crit almost instantly
>before that, I walked and worked normally (albeit coughing up blood) for 1 minute
Broken lungs are strange
>>
>>159650139
It's not the 02 that gets ya, it's the bloodloss mate.
>>
>>159649613
what other changes would /fit/ make to ss13
>>
sarah johnson
>>
http://ss13.moe/media/source/clockwork/

What is this tracklist for? Was this just copy-pasted from TGstation?
>>
>Faust teleporting everyone in telescience
>one guy panics and try to break the windows, almost ZASing us to oblivion
Why
>>
>>159650414
>Was this just copy-pasted from TGstation?
What did he mean by this
>>
>>159649938
>he hasn't permabrigged Emilia

lmao i don't even play sec and i've permad that little gutter slut
>>
>>159650480
Well, TGstation has that Clockwork Cult thing, and the directory is named "clockwork", so I thought it's a list of files that is streamed while the Clockwork Cult is at its final stage.
>>
>>159650564
Greyshitter waifus are the best tho
>>
Has your husbando hugged you today?
>>
>its a shitter picks IAA for more access to be a shitter with episode
>>
>>159650691
No :(
>>
>>159650792
>its a shitter picks IAA and "rps" as a boring cunt episode
>>
>>159650792
>>its a shitter picks IAA for more access to be a shitter with episode
yea bro! who /shitter/ here
>>
>play ss13, dont understand why everyone hates the clown. hes usually a funny guy
>every round I play, I understand a little bit more
>several weeks later, hate clowns.
>>
>>159650564
I'm not a slut
>>
>>159650564
I've Permad emilia several times. I just come up with new and fun ways to do it. It is an artform.

>>159650864
No worries I'll be on later ;)

>>159650990
Few clowns master the fine art of marrying shittery with entertainment.
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>>159651043
I like this purposefully superficial denial
>>
>>159650990
When I first started playing SS13, I thought plasma floods and singulooses were thrilling and fun

Now I hate that they happen so often

I still find plasma fires fun to try and survive sometimes
>>
>>159650605
No, it's been here long before tg station took the clockwork cult idea,the music plays on the superjuke.
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>>159651176
Try to save people from them, and/or escort corpses to escape because their wives deserve a funeral. it is still thrilling.
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>>159651176
Plasma fires can be fun if you're geared up to survive one before it hits, otherwise it's retarded
I still have no idea why no server has something like goon's TEG, that thing is god-tier
>>
>>159650241
>02
This is a new one

>>159650358
is mine fuck off
>>
>>159651774
>This is a new one
what he means is oxygen as in lack of breathing, I presume
>>
>>159651116
You guys are making out like permabrigging her is a sec rite of passage or something
>>
>>159649408
>hey guys what's the best way to X
>How about all these shitty methods!
>we never said they were good LOL if you didn't know about the good methods why are you asking
Ebin
>>
>>159638849
>That is to say, once borged, they aren't valid anymore
>they aren't *antag valid anymore.
They're still valid with proper escalation.
>>
>>159652346
>>159652346
>>159652346

Migrate!
>>
>>159652250
Meaning they aren't valid
If potential to be valid makes someone valid, then there's no need for the distinction, is there

Stop trying so hard, you just go full circle and seem retarded
>>
>>159652185
It's fun as fuck. You either get salty about the static greyshits and quit sec or enjoy the wild ride and become a part of it.
>>
>tfw you're a fag so don't care about waifus
>but still think they are funny players that you enjoy spending a round with, most of the time
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>>159646369
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>>159652740
Cargonia suicide pact ?
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>>159646369
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>>159649165
>I AM ANGRY SELF-HATING JOBFAG TRANNY MANLET AILSA
ftfy
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