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Marignese Comeback Edition

Previous thread >>159056258


Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm (embed)

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Jump into MP feet first
>Never create shitty threads with political images
>Work on your blogs, videos, and the wiki

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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>0 / 0 / 1 / 9
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Worry not Purple, I will aid you against this pink menace.
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>>159390973
This slow, slow menace.
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Already Ded.
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>>159394136
I blame the jews. The giant man eating jews.
>>159394442
What even happened here?
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>>159394537
Three people bumped sneks in the same province in one turn, how lewd.
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Man, just Akashic Record'd Ulm.

Funny about him beating me on most of the graphs - Provinces, Income (what a stomp) Research (what a stomp), and Dominion.
We're tied in forts.
While I inch out a small lead in gem income - though that doesn't count the Sickle Ulm has iirc, flame spirits (which we both have I'm pretty sure) and Sea Kings.
My army size is bigger too. yay?

Morale of story, if someone with the graphs refuses to post them and points at you and says you're the biggest threat ever - just fucking akashic record some people to prove otherwise.
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>>159394963
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>>159394963
>Morale of story
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>>159394963
to be fair, graphs don't show blood
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>>159394963
Actually, I haven't lied once. I've been very careful about that.
Not my problem you've literally been getting into the jewish persona so much you couldn't pay 100 gold to get more up to date information than from when I made my reports.

As for 'biggest threat ever', i'm not quite sure where i've said that. I've just been making factual reports going 'and here's what i've been paid to give out information on'.
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>>159395135
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>>159395246
Of course I couldn't spare 100 gold for graphs. Unlike Ulm, I'm not literally rolling in the cash.

And you're right, you haven't lied. You just avoided giving out any information about the actual game leader (because he's the one rich enough to pay you) and let people make their own conclusions.

A system to help the chief snowballer, snowball harder.
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>>159395538
I will admit, our gem income remains very close. Probably won't stay that way once Ulm finishing eating Mictlan/Ermor/possibly Yomi/possibly Xibalba.
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>>159395538
Nigger its only 100 gold. Thats like 2 war lobsters.
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>>159395538
>couldn't spare 100 gold
>couldn't spare literal pocket change

Confirmed for cannibal jew.

And I haven't avoided anything. I made my terms clear and very upfront on graph information. I've given out everything i've been paid for. Nothing more, nothing less. If you have complaints, take it up with..well, literally everyone who hasn't paid me for whatever information you feel you should be getting for free.
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>>159395706
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>>159395801
Frankly, I found the 5 pearls cheaper.

And no, 100 gold is not literal pocket change when I'm playing a massive game of catch up in Research.

Also: ULMISH RESEARCH INTENSIFIES.
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>>159396069
Well, if you ever decide to spare literally 100 gold - holy shit man i can see your income compared to mine you know and I know from that how much money you actually have - then you can get more information.
Until then, enjoy mage turns and pearls that you somehow consider less total than 100 gold being used to get a graph. For one turn. On one nation.
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Abysia 2h file received
>Degenerate Doujinist Waiting for 2h file
Atlantis 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Unexpected Nation 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received

>Degenerate Doujinist
>Waiting for 2h file
>Waiting
>for
>2h
>file

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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OooOooOooO I'm the ghost of AT TNN oooOooOooooOooOOO

Remember when I told you fuckers about ulm ooooOoOooooOO?

Yeah get OOoooOoO fucked
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Innovative Lemurian Thred.
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Could any generous soul with a lot of scouts provide a map of the game so I can know who to attack next?
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>tfw you're in strong or winning endgame position in several games and you hate it
Every time. Perhaps I should stop joining >10 player games outright so as not to get in the endgame always and make the turns more bearable if that does occur.
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Here's a recap of the UW bowl if anyone is interested, will post the rest of the graphs soon.
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D E D dead
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>>159401691
I always get this huge anxiety whenever I'm in late-game in a good position.

It's like I'm an inflated balloon and I'm afraid that committing to any attacks seriously will just make me pop, so I just sit on my thrones/cap with my best troops never sending them out.
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>>159401675
Who are you?
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>>159404623
I don't have trouble being decisive but unless it's one of those wins where you're more powerful than everyone else combined, the process of converting your strength to a victory is really taxing to me.

The higher you are the longer you fall and the risk of losing an almost won but not fully secured game makes me worry about all the possible ways something can go wrong (I enjoy heroic last stands and other losing situations but the fall from grace is torturous as long as it lasts and you reach the point where you're definitely not winning anymore) and there's this pressure to make perfect turns so as not to let the game slip from your grasp but perfectly scripting everything when you're big gets tiresome. And if it's one of those games where you have overwhelming advantage but there's no way to make a decisive throne rush, while not emotionally taxing, it's even more tiresome to grind out the win.
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you picked the wrong monkey to mess with you little shit
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>>159408760
>S10 instead of 1
>Heat 3
Shit pantokrator desu.
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>>159408760
The Wheel Has Turned Once Again
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>>159409135

>S1
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>>159411232

What, you don't like to have your pret magic dueled? What're you, some kind of scrub or something?
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>>159408760
The Wheel Has Turned Once Again
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

Join game
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>>159411545
>summod
Suck your own cock, faggot.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Steel_Domg_Run

Join game
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>>159412234
>games without summod
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>>159411232
>Not living life on the edge with S1
Don't be a bitch
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>>159412308

>games with summod
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>>159417214
Ermor players
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Whats the best way early expand as Gath, assuming no bless? I'm looking at Benjaminites with some Asherite arrow catchers.
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>>159419927
Why would you not take a bless as Gath? Levites are great troops, even without a major. Benjamites are great for dealing damage, but use levites or zebulenites for blockers.
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>>159420726
I do have a bless but it's F4B9 and aimed for making seirim super killy and levites mid-late game evo deterrents.

I just realized Asherites have MM1, so yeah, maybe use something else.
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>>159412283
2 province start
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>>159423256
>2 province start
git gud
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Don't die
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>>159395538

>similar number of provinces
>far lower income
You've got quite the blood economy there

>Sauro was clearly lying about Hinnom being bigger 4 turns ago because Ulm is bigger now

The province graph you posted just shows that Sauro was telling the truth. Ulm didn't pass you in size until two or three turns ago.

Here's what it comes down to:

There are two nations snowballing. One is Ulm. The other is Hinnom. Ulm is an early-midgame nation. Hinnom is a blood nation with massive S/B crosspaths. Which one is scarier as the game progresses?

Also, you're pretty clearly creeping up on Astral Corruption in the charts.
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>>159423330
.t blessrusher
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>>159427874

He MIGHT just have shittier scales and a much bigger bless?

I mean, I don't believe that, but it's possible.
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>>159428124
He and others are confirmed that he is bloodhunting extensively. Anyone who borders him can tell you about all the provinces with black hawks.
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>>159428124
Eye in the sky here. Following information is based on looking at their caps and taking into account summer season.

Ulm's scales are O3P3C3G3Misf1M3.
Hinnom's scales are O3P1H3G3Misf2.

In terms of ability to make dosh, they're very close and there should be basically no major difference between them.
People disputing the truth of my information does bother me enough for me to post this.
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>>159428461
Given the gap between Hinnom and Ulm's incomes, that's fucking terrifying.
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Actually, since Hinnom keeps saying i'm lying, here's some other information on him: He has the crystal throne. This mean he can make crystal matrices and turn anyone into a communion master with his S2 mages. This is location at province 332. He's also getting free devils from the Devil's Den in 214. Oh, and don't forget the insane pile of gems he's racking up from the Throne of Abundance in province 127.
You want to know who people need to gang up on? Hinnom, frankly, because it's _really_ fucking obvious he's running away with this. He's actively eating other nations as we speak - Lanka's cap is under siege, Kailasa's cap is under siege - and it's just getting worse, and he's really, really obvious angling for Astral Corruption at this point along with mass horror attacks.
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>Back down to 3 games
>They're all late game
>Don't feel like doing turns
>Ooh, this game looks interesting. I want to play summod Ur

Why do I do this to myself?
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>>159431790
Same reason I do. Dominions contains fun, in the end, and even if late game can turn into a slog you have a while before you get there. And hell, maybe it'll even be a fun late game

I honestly wonder if disciple games might be the way to go to solve the late-game slog. Each player has individually less to manage and script and shit that way.
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>he's going to attack me with the exact same setup that lost him 4x the troops last time
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Why do unscripted mages feel such a need to buff themselves?
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By the way Yomi, it was honestly fine, I didn't need recompense. Just happy to help. As a warning, Fomoria just pushed further in and is now right next to that Kailasa province above the throne, so not impossible he might try to pincer you if they're actively working together rather than just opportunistic.
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>>159433038
yomi cant come to the phone right now >>159407878
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>tfw you get raped by golems
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>>159435414
Do golems even have sexual organs? Do their makers bother with putting giant clay cocks and balls on them?
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>>159436050
Of course. Just as Man is a microcosm of his creator so is the Golem a microcosm of Man.
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>>159433095
Except I can see he just sieged down, breached and now holds the throne fort. Things aren't going all your way, Kailasa.
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>>159437076
a fort with nobody in it. grats

you lost a 2v1 and now the game is between machaka and fomoria
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>>159437185
>i was just pretending to get the shit kicked out of me and lose a throne and fort

Makes sense.
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>>159437287
>kill 8x the # in invading armies from two different nations
>shit kicked out of me

okay let's just watch how this plays out over the next couple of turns then
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Therodian Thred.
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The only question left in rubbadub is whether machaka invades yomi or fights w/ fomoria over hinnom's territory.

There is also the possibility that he just turtles and doesn't eat anyone.
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>it happened again
kek
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>>159441939
Who's winning?
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>>159437348
>lose one army sieging enemy capital
>OH EM GEE YO URE DAED LOL

that's not how things work, designated streetshitter.
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>>159442719
>being this salty
>being this bad

this is why you've never won a game you absolute shitter
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>>159442964
>salty
look who's talking
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>>159442530
I'm not sure anyone is winning in that game. It does kind of feel like everyone is losing, though.
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>>159442964
You've also never won a game you know.
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Stop arguing about winning games and shit. It's not a big deal, you know. You just need to have the discipline to sit through late-game.

t. winner of like 8 games.
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>>159443524
that'sthejoke.jpg
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Arcoscephale 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
Eriu 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Jotunheim 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
>Sceleria Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

REEEEEEEEEEEEE
(I can't do my turn right now, but that's besides the matter)
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>>159444362
Don't worry, I'll send you like 50 resends anyway.
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>>159442964
This isn't me btw but I agree with the general sentiment

T. Bad attitude monkey scrub
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If Donald Trump was a dominions nation, what nation would he be?
Ditto for Hillary, Stein, Johnson, and any other presidential candidate.
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>>159445590
Full scales hinnom maybe? Tons of money but his best guys also fuck up his own shit.
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>>159445590
Well, they're all bourgeois and therefore blood sacrificing, ever-hungry tyrants. Hinnom for all the mainstream candidates.
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>>159445590
Trump would be Yomi, obviously.
Big, angry, stupid rulers who gain benefit from making life for those under them miserable (with turmoil scales).
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>>159445921
>inb4 cuck
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>>159445590
Agartha
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>>159445921
This is not a bad analogy. To extend it: Lots of people proclaimed yomi was a shit nation that wouldn't have a chance, yomi turned out to be notbad, and they thrive off chaos.
And are composed of literal demons.
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>>159446806
cuck
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>rubbadub slows down just as it's getting spicy
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>>159440531
It worries me that people are talking me up like I am a major power when all I've done is taken an undefended fort from the jews.
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>>159447802
Oh Malakal, don't ever change
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>>159447887
I thought Hinnom was Malakal?
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>>159447373
wrong pic
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>>159448009
I'm playing two different nations
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>>159448109
How can you be doing that if I am one of them?
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>>159448009
On a semi-serious note, I think we can safely assume Malakal isn't in this game since it's a '0 wins only' game for scrubs.
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I just found a crypt that the mages of old Ermor would probably have knowledge of. Should I investigate that shit?
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>>159448297
yes malakal, you'd never do something like that would you?
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>>159448501
I don't think he would, actually.
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>>159429132
Ah yes, having 2 people's capital under seige (and I suspect Kailasa will kick me off since I'd rather not have more Melqarts being getting horror marked desu.

I wonder what that's like? Does Ulm have 2, or 3 capitals under seige? I can personally see 2, and I know he's moving toward Yomi as well.

Also, you claim I'm racking up an insane pile of gems - except Ulm has nearly the same gem income as me - more if their's any grain of truth to the sickle of pain deal I heard.

I've also already stated to both of the little Nexus casters undah da sea that Corruption won't go up unless they decide to Nexus or Armageddon spam.

Oh, and an added bonus - I have yet to start a single fight against an active player this whole game, in comparison to Ulm who viciously assailed both Marverni and Ermor without provocation.
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>>159448734
>>159448297
He already did like twice.
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>>159449542

What?
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Ermorian Thred.
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>>159449761
Malakal joined scrub games anonymously, won, and bragged about it.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

Join game.
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>>159451183
When?
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>>159451238
Also this one : http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Steel_Domg_Run
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does anybody have scouts watching machaka?

what has he been doing this entire time? he isn't fighting anyone
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>>159452901
That's the idea, yes.
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>>159453020
This is a hot new teenager meme.
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>>159452830
I had one scout and he died in a Riley province that was practically empty.
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>>159452901
Its hopefully a continuation of Domg's Bizarre Adventure.
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>>159453476
>continuation
>not in MA
ONE JOB
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>>159454216
This. It really surprised me that it wasnt MA or LA.
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>>159454216
Fuck, I didn't even think about that.
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>>159454534
Clearly you need to start over as Domg is Unbreakable or Stone Domg.
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>>159454798
domg breaks anytime they have to coordinate against ermor

might as well call it LlamaServerIsNeverCrash
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>>159454798
>Battle Domg
>Domg Tendency
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>>159454798
Domgs bizarre adventures ended with Made is Heaven reseting the universe so now we are at Steel Domg Run.
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>>159454968

Fair enough.
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>>159451238
>>159452790
I can only join one game. Which do I join?
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>>159455771
First one has meme thrones and is in the age of crossbows, second one has fast turns, diplomacy, and is in the age of mages.
You an see which would be better.
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>>159456008
>the age of mages
every mage is the age of mages, my friend.

EA is the age of deep, expensive mages and sacreds. LA is the age of efficient, affordable mages and crossbows.
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>>159455771
Domgs_Bizarre_Adventures was a great game.
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>>159451183

Name one
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Having trouble downloading the sand worms map
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>>159456196
>>159456008
Whats MA then?
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>>159456459
http://users.on.net/~dfidge/dom3/dom4maps/desertworms.zip
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Team 9 pick already >:(
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>>159456351
>>159452625

Every game on domg is a scrub game :^)
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>>159456509
The age of skeletons and no blood.
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>>159456509
MemeAge
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>>159456581
>no blood
Abysia says hello.
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>>159456509
Age of Bones
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>>159456581
Speaking of which, I'm in a MA game right now where no one picked Ermor or Asphodel.
Feelscomfyman
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>>159456509
The extra-focus era.

Pythium's hardcore focused on communions. Arco gets an even bigger astral mage in their cap instead of a diversity mage. Sceleria has only one out of cap mage. Caelum can only do lightning stuff having lost the battlefield clear of EA/LA. etc. The only nations that do a variety of things are the ones that have extra gimmicks included by accident, like Nazca
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>>159456557
I guess they dont call them Team Indecisive for nothing.
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>>159456695
>Cap only blood hunters
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>>159456836
>not blood hunting in your cap
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>>159457023
Лiл.
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Good evening gentlemen, I see some people have been advertising my game which is nice. I would like to reiterate a few points so people don't join my game with the wrong intention:

-The game is EA because Made in heaven reset the universe to zero, also Part 7 is one of the earliest jojos to happen alongside part 1

-there will be no two province start

if your still interested in joining the game I would love to welcome you to the Real Domg's world

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Steel_Domg_Run
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>>159457669
Can I join if I've never watched or read any Jojo?
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>>159457994
of course, but I ask you try to name your god after a jojo character or theme at the very least
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>>159457994
It's never too late to start
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>>159457994
Absolutely not.
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>>159458087
I named mine Left Nut is that acceptable or should I resend?
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>>159457994
If you don't have a meme name I will personally chase you down to the outskirts of a reacharound map and strike you.
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have scientists figured out why autists love jojo's ba so much?
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>>159459439
>plays dominions 4 on a chinese origami message board
>accuses others of autism
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>>159459729
You misunderstand. I was asking why Jojo is so compelling to autists like me.
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>>159459439
>>159459965
He sounds stronk and manly, qualities that you as a person lack.
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>>159460196
Are you sure it's not the heavy-handed homosexual hints?
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>>159460331
I'm sure it's not.
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>>159460505
Thanks for confirming.
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>>159445590
Trump is Yomi. Severely underrated by the experts, but still not quite good enough. Ruled by a big stupid demon with an orange face who somehow still crushes all the established SCs in 1v1s. Thrives in chaos.

Hillary is Abysia. Starts out strong and can take indies to the face. Not very flexible and crippled by severe flaws which become more obvious as the game wears on. Donations from middle eastern countries. Secretly into blood magic. played a lot by malakal.

Gary Johnson is MA Xibalba. Much shittier version of other iterations of the party. Can't see. No real laws, so poorly managed.

Jill Stein is MA Ulm, since she thinks magic/wifi causes cancer and wants everything to be aggresively regulated.
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>>159460331
There are only like 3 homos in it and one of them is a chick.
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>>159460739
You're right. It is a very straight series.
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>>159460937
No, Gappy is just autistic
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>>159460937
So manly he has 4 testicles.
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>>159460937
But anon, that's just the male equivalent of some anime chick with huge tits falling down and getting melty ice cream all over her body. He should be rubbing his crotch against an other guy or something for it to be gay.
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>>159461606
I'm not saying that you're wrong, but the scenario you're describing IS intended to be sexy for straight guys.
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>>159460937
jojo is as straight as it gets
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>>159461894
I wondered why my mom invited him to my birthday party... we were never even friends...
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>>159460654
kek screencapped
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>>159461606
>It's not gay, it's just the equivalent of something intended to titillate people into women but with men instead.
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>>159463983
what if women read it.
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>>159463983
It's not gay look at handsome men if you are a woman or a grill.
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dominions
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>>159464270
I'm a woman, and I love it.
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>>159464270
>>159464331
Sure, that's straight. Similar to how women being into women in ecchi scenes is gay. It's not rocket science.
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>>159464331
It's also not gay if you like girls.
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>>159464504
Oh anon you silly goose, it is forbidden for girls to love other girls.
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>>159460654
but what about this handsome guy?
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>>159464605
But I'm not a girl.
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>>159464671
BogaRUSE. Dumb question.
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>>159464462
I don't see your point, it's not like you read the manga for those moments, male fanservice just doesn't affect me in any shape or way.

Are you sure you're not just bothered because you're far up in the closet or something? Got some insecurities you want to talk about? Can you even go to the gym since the place is filled with men showing off?
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>>159464923
too obvious, also putin would play an actual good nation
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>>159465070
>Bogarus
>bad
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>>159465070
Putin would play a nation that actually uses it's national troops. Nieefelheim or Jotunheim?
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>>159465070
Putin would send meth heads after the other players.
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>>159465070

You ever notice how you only ever hear about good things happening from the media in the Bogarusian capital?
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>>159465302
How about Vanarus.
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>>159458087
Given Jojo's naming scheme I think mine should work despite not being a direct reference.
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C'tis may be resigned to it's fate, but C'tis will fight until the bitter end anyway

Simith the Tartarian Cyclops leads the charge and valiantly battles two Tartarian Monstra who are much better geared than he is to a standstill until the rest of R'lyeh's forces are defeated, including another R'lyehan Cyclops who was overwhelmed by skeletons and promptly murdered. However, the remaining supercombatants are regenerating too quickly to actually kill each other! Until! Lugal'igi'husham, who was bullied all his life for his ridiculous name, finally snaps and just straight up disintegrates a bitch.

Would you believe people told me that the E4 Tartarian Cyclops was bad?
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>>159467261
So, I've come to a conclusion. This 300% shit is really tiring. I think it should all drop. All of it.

Work on an armageddon engine that won't lose its ring everytime it dies has begun. Funded by you all spending gems.
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>>159467538
>Nick getting tired of late-game
Truly the end times are upon us.
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>>159467538
Don't worry Nick, it's okay

We can let go together
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>>159467538
So its a draw?

Fine with me.
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>>159467538
Morale fail is still a loss
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>>159467704
>>159468003
>>159468240
>>159468340
You all misunderstand. He's not tired of the game, but of the gold, resources, and supplies. He's going to simply Armageddon-spam the world into poverty
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>>159468496
All in favor of declaring nick the loser of this game vote aye.
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>>159468587
That's not how it works. The false-pretenders can vote however they like; it doesn't save them from tartarus when the true pantokrator ascends. The only chance you have to 'vote' is when your combined power is sufficient to defeat them.
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>>159468710
>That's not how it works

I vote that it is. All in favour?
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>>159468710
Admin > Pankoman :^)
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>>159468496
I don't misunderstand anything.

I like to think that I was the final straw that made R'lyeh decide that the world needed to be fire and ashes before he would willingly rule it.

That's enough for me.
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>>159468710
Motion to change the rules to create victors by voting.
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>>159469004
it was actually more Arco than you desu. That bump was sort of annoying.

Its also mostly because I have a real fucking army with actual magic diversity on your doorstep, while I'm like miles away from Arco.

>>159468587
I don't know, given how passive so many nations are I think they're voting for me.
>>159468895
Like I haven't already mind controlled the admin.
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is llama dead?
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>>159469061
Motion passed. Voting power will be based solely on province population, nothing else.
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>>159469459
Ready the armageddon spam
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>>159469459
UW provinces are worth 3/5.
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>>159469965
No, that would be african provinces dumbass.
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>>159470878
>squids triggered because they're not considered real people
ah bloo bloo bloo
I vote you lose.
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Quadbless Ulmish Thread.
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>>159473425
Full scales Mictlan thread.
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ded llama thread
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Just found a weird mechanic, courtesy of Jude
Start up a game with EA caelum, recruit first some archers (or use starting army archers) and some mammoths and send them out
archers shoot, mammoths walk forward, all's well
Then recruit a squad of first mammoths, then archers
send them out
the archers will FLY INTO MELEE because the first unit in the squad sets the validity of the fire order
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>Dorfs apparently had a trade with you before you staled twice, he's saying he sent you 30 earth gems for 30 nature gems on turn 32 (you received them on turn 33). Since he's kinda short on time he asked me to send this to you since it's faster than ingame back and forth. I assume you forgot after the two stales.

I got this as an email, but I don't think it's for me. I've only staled once, I've never received a windfall of E gems, and I don't have the kind of N income where I would trade them for something else.
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>>159475772
To add to that, since it's entirely between unit types.

If you have javelineers in a squad 'led' by a unit that's pure melee, they won't ever throw them even if set to Fire.
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>>159476491
Not technically true - they won't throw them until the squad that they are ordered to attack is dead.
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>>159476638
actually, correction - I don't know if this applies to when they're "led" by a melee unit
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>>159476491
>>159476828
Lastly, if javelineers or anything with very limited ammo is leading an archer squad, then when they run out of ammo the archers will also switch to melee.
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When in doubt, communion it out.
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>>159475772
>>159476491
>>159476638
>>159476828
>>159477015
neat.jpg

I don't see this as being particularly exploitable, except for avoiding that mammoth situation that you pointed out.
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>>159479837
The only real practical application (other than not mixing squads and having your archers ignore their bows) we can figure out is using it to make those amazon pegasus riders actually use their melee instead of their bows.
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>no new turns

I hope you normies are enjoying your weekend
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Raiel also confirmed that if the 'lead' archer loses their arm or somesuch and no longer uses their bow, the whole squad goes to melee
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>>159481090
>no new turns when you want them
>too many new turns when you arent in the mood
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>>159481090
did you miss the part with llama not accepting turn files AGAIN?
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>>159478654
Neat!
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Sure would be nice if team 7 could pick their nation in less than 3 hours.
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>>159476054
It's for Artea.

Admin probably just forgot to mention that.
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>>159481817
Seriously why do these motherfuckers take so long to pick nations.
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>>159485692
>>159481817
Team Indecisive took so long gentlemoth went to sleep
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>>159485807
God damn Team Indecisive, why they gotta be so indecisive?
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Damnit Mari. Good job.
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I wanted to change nations in a game so I sent in a different pretender but instead of changing nation now both my nations are up on llama.
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>>159487773
You need to ask the admin to delete your old pretender.
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>>159487906
Shit. well if the admin for Latus 4 is here please delete Abysia.
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Therodian Thred.
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Can anyone join the Latus 4 game? I am noob you see and I would like to do the joining
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>>159489831
Yes.
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>>159488007
What's the matter, Malakal? Not feeling so confident about Abysia anymore after they fixed the crossbreeding scaling?
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>>159489906
>implying I'm malakal
This was actually the first game I joined even though it hasn't started yet. If you dont believe me do you really think malakal would switch from Abysia to Atlantis?
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>>159490160
Or that he wouldn't know how to switch nations?
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>>159489906
Mokou is my favorite /domg/ meme
t. not Malakal
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>>159490327
Nice try. I see right through your attempt to pretend to be someone else than Malakal. Everyone, remember to gang up on Atlantis.

t. R'lyeh
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>>159490403
please don't sully my preferred 2hu with malakal's name
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>>159490403
Actually, for some strange reason about half of these pictures seem to have direct connection to things found in Dominions. That "Buff, FFF" and the "I want to sit on the throne" are most striking examples. Maybe the guy making these is part of the chinese/japanese Dominions community?
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>>159490636
there is actually an active chinese community for dominions 4, they made a three kingdoms map recently
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>>159490421
Any idea when that game is starting by the way?
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>>159491013
It starts as soon as people forget how painful meme games are and join.
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>>159492202
I mean there are 17 people joined upright now.
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>>159490749
So, in the spirit of US presidential election candidates (>>159460654), which faction is Han/Dong Zhuo/Yuan Shao/Shu/Wei/Wu/Jin/whatever?
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>>159492414
That means some have forgotten but not enough
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>>159492591
Im excited for my first meme game I've been hearing nothing but good things, how should I prepare
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>>159492517
Han is LA pythium for being decripted and neigh useless.

Dong Zhuo was ruthless but betrayed at every corner so I would say Abysia or Formoria

Yuan Shao was charismatic and put heavy emphasis on numbers and nobility but couldn't beat the military strategies of cao cao so I would say Sceleria (lots and lots of cheap chaff but limited utility)

Shu is baby foot players so hinnom

Wei is EA ermor (huge empire, lots of ambition, fell apart after the core leadership died off)

Wu is All ages acro, remaining relevant till the end but never truly winning

Jin reminds me of a ragha: late forming power that would win with a variety of strategies and cunning


I stayed away from using EA/MA/LA t'ien chi on purpose as to me they represent the Shang, Sung/Ming, Yuan dynasty in my eyes
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>>159493490
Wouldn't T'ien Ch'i Spring and Autumn be inspired by Spring and Autumn period of China -> Zhou?

I don't think it's necessarily wrong but what about MA ("Imperial Bureaucracy") makes you think of Song/Ming? Tang dynasty comes to my mind first with their imperial examination system and administrative reforms.

LA being Yuan dynasty is a given, though.
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>>159493490
I just remember Ming being really heavy into Imperial examination system too but I'm not as familar with Tang dynasty so I admit my knowledge is limited in that field. Also the fact the Ming dynasty coming over the Yuan dynasty should tip me off to not using them before the Yuan dynasty
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Quad bless MA Atlantis thread.
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>>159494462
I thought MA was Qin
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>>159481061
There's already a way to do that. Script them to attack you turboscrub.
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>>159490749
There are two distinct chinese communities, though one has overlap with the phillipines/russia, and the other is pretty strictly mainland.
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>>159493490
>>159494462
>>159494748
>>159500305
Who *Rise of the Middle Kingdom* here?
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>>159500692
Apparently they will go back to using bows as soon as their primary target is dead if you tell them to attack.
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Ermorian Thread.
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Whoever is in charge of rubadub might want to extend the timer a bit.
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>>159500305
Now that I think about it, the whole mercury thing with MA China's alchemists does fit in with Qin Shi Huang's obsession in attaining immortality by ingesting mercury (I assume the whole thing with mercury as medicine was a thin prior and after him, but Imperial Alchemist description alludes to his obsession).
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Thank you Bogarus, you continue to make us suffer so you may live in harmony and contentment
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>>159505879
The search for immortality was actually a whole /thing/ in China, not just any one leader
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>>159506101
Well, because Shi Huangdi was the first emperor.
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Oceanian Thred.
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Ermor you think you can eat me in the confusion while Astral Corruption is cast? Think again, I can be anywhere, anytime and kill you in over 100 ways with just my infantry alone. I have graduated top of my Tir na n'Og class and been involved in numerous elf raids and I have over 300 confirmed banishment. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Avalon Mothers and putting to full use my national nature gem treasury. You are nothing to me but just another indie, you're fuckin' swarmed kiddo.

But no really, Ermor is no ally in the fight against Abysia.
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>>159508654
Pelagian Thread.
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>>159509916
Why is everyone trying to cast globals while AC is up? Do you hate your mages/gods?
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>>159512272
Does global get dispelled when immortal pretender dies? I mean I can understand why Ermor would try it but not Arco (who already saw the consequences of someone else doing it before him.)
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thank fuck, i thought this general had died.

can i just lurk here and jump on mp games?
i hate signing up for forums etc, and i cant be fucked monitoring the steam group for games.
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>>159509916
What the fuck did you just fucking do to me, you little elf? I’ll have you know I was designed as the top Super Combatant in the Pretender Design Screen, and I’ve been defending against numerous secret raids by the Helheim, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in thug warfare and I’m the top buffer in our entire nation. You are nothing to me but just some chaff. I will wipe you the fuck out with gear the like of which are the standard thug setup, mark my fucking paths. You think you can glamour away after trying to fuck me up with "anonymous" rituals? Think again, ponyfucker. In the same turn I send this message I am rearranging my network of scouts across the map and your Pretender's current provinceid is being traced right now by Dome of Flaming Death so you better prepare for the fire, maggot. The fire that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your research camp.

You’re fucking domkilled, kid. You can be anywhere, anytime, but I can kill your chaff in over three ways, and that’s just with my attacks. Not only am I extensively trained in armed combat, but I have access to the entire spell arsenal of my nation and I will use the handful of useful spells to rout your miserable ass off the battlefield, you little scrub. If only you would have scouted or pretender description meta'd what holy retribution your little “clever” surprise raid was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have kept your fucking ponymen hidden. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’ve lost the gold, you goddamn idiot. I will Growing Fury all over you and you will rout from it. You’re fucking longdead, Legolas.
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>>159512591
Yes it does.
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>people are unironically casting globals into AC.
I bet these people aren't even going to try to dispel either
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>>159512726
Yes you can. But you better be good, otherwise games you are in will turn into shit.

Have you played 6 months in SP?
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>>159512726

That's what half of us here are doing.

Death to steamshitters.
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>>159512726
Absolutely.

Most games will put up a notification here as well as the steamgroup. Some require signing up on steam, but there's plenty of anon games.
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>>159514149
i fucked around with a pirated version for ages, i've played pretty solidly with around half of the EA and MA nations, i feel pretty confident i'll still lose, but not real fukken bad.

>>159514294
>>159514898
yusss
fuck talking to normies.
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>>159514994
>i fucked around with a pirated version for ages
Welcome abroad!
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>>159514994
join latus_4, CastInTheNameofBob, and Steel_Domg_Run on llama server
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>>159442530
>>159443327

Abyssia has AC up, and are horror bombing me a lot, but my armies are still winning for now. It's pretty much come down to the two of us duking it out,whoever wins takes it all.
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>>159516475
>my armies are still winning for now

>Yes goyim, keep attacking Abysia so that I can win the game easily.
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>>159516776
t. Abysia

But more seriously, casting AC guarantees that everyone else is going to side with Agartha until that comes down.
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>>159516845
t. Agartha
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>>159516845
>But more seriously, casting AC guarantees that everyone else is going to side with Agartha until that comes down.

See >>159509916
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Are communicants worth the gold?
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>>159515392
sweet, thanks.
done and done.
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>>159517765
Sometimes. They're good when you're capped on fort turns, but don't want to wait for the 1700 on another actual mage producer to get more combat power.
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>>159517765
If you're planning to use a communion, absolutely. As communion slaves, they're better than theurg acolytes for anything other than astral/holy. They're also cheaper and (more importantly) don't take up a commander recruitment slot.
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>>159518156
>they're better than theurg acolytes for anything other than astral/holy
They're identical, actually.
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>>159518176
Autocast communion slave means 19-31 (depending on magic, heat scales) less fatigue to start with. It's not a big difference, but they are slightly better.

It also makes them easier to work with if you want to use a crystal matrix communion to pull something off turn 1.
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>>159517936
be sure to download the mods and junk
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>>159457669
I'm at work right now but I'll join tonight if the game is not full by then, so don't start early.
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>>159518329
yeah i think i got em all as i went.
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>>159476054
Yeah it's for Artea, for some reason Llama decided to send it to everyone even though I had specifically selected Artea alone.
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GET IN THE FUCKING CHAT
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Fomoria REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159514994
Just as long as you aren't a fag who goes AI at the first sign of a lost battle or something
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>>159524330
Whoops sorry, didnt notice I got a new turn.
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>stuck with team 9 again
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yomi why :(
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Hi guys, I'm new to Dominions and I had a couple of questions. I've been learning the very basics of the game playing offline against the AI (I know that's not the best thing in the long term but I'm just trying to figure out how everything works) but I'm having some difficulty figuring out what exactly I should do. Whenever I look at guides I find they're usually very general and don't give a lot of specific steps as to what to do. I get some pretty severe option paralysis because it feels like there's an 'optimal' course of action in each situation and I simply can't figure out what it is and I can't look up what it is either. So, two-fold question: are there any sorts of trap options or things that are never or rarely viable? I know the motto of the general is 'it depends' but there has to be something that's a 'noob trap' or whatever. Second question, is there a set of steps that you should follow in every single game, regardless of the faction? I'm talking like really early game. It sort of just throws you in there and gives you a lot of options and I don't know which ones I should go for, besides expanding as much as I can.
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>>159527564
Early game guidelines:

Have a basic expansion party that you know can take on most indies. Produce this party from your capital and send it out to conquer indies.

Produce as many mages as you can. Use indie commanders to lead your troop to save fort-turns that can be used to get more mages.

Save up money for an early secondary fort. Best start building before turn 10. Some nations like to start as early as turn 3.

Get more provinces from indies/enemies to get money, get/build forts, labs and temples so that you can spend all the money you have.

Have set research goals that will help you in case of early wars. Example: Alteration 2 and Earth Meld for earth mages.

Send out a mage or two to search for the type of magic site that you will need the most of to power your gem economy.
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>>159527564
The optimal course of action depends on so many factors that it can rarely be relied on.

Not to mention that oddball strategies are sometimes what wins the day.
>>
Game: Degeneracy
Turn number 23
Next turn due: 14:23 GMT on Tuesday November 8th

Abysia 2h file received
>Agartha Waiting for 2h file
Atlantis 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Unexpected Nation 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received

ree
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ded
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>>159527564

There's a lot of stuff that really does depend. But I'll try and give you some of the stuff that doesn't.

>Are there any sorts of trap options or things that are never or rarely viable? I know the motto of the general is 'it depends' but there has to be something that's a 'noob trap' or whatever.

There are a few things here, but they're mostly nation specific. The prime you need to do is know your nation before you make a pretender for it. The inspector (linked in OP) is useful for this. The sort of pretender you want for Vanheim is very, very different from the sort of pretender you want as Ulm.

It'll take a while to get your head around what exactly the nation you've picked is looking for, but as general rules of thumb: If it has recruitanywhere sacreds, you want to focus on bless. If it has bad expansion, you want an awake expander. If it has national spells your national mages can't cast, you may want to think about a pretender for those. If it's shit is expensive(or particularly resource heavy), you want scales. If your sacreds are giants regen bless (N) is good. If your sacreds are cavalry or elves, quickness bless (W) is good. If your sacreds are subpar but plentiful (e.g. flags), focus on an offensive bless. If you have a shitload of sacred mages (LA C'tis, all Apes), Regen and Reinvig are good for both communion and standard casting purposes.

>Second question, is there a set of steps that you should follow in every single game, regardless of the faction? I'm talking like really early game. It sort of just throws you in there and gives you a lot of options and I don't know which ones I should go for, besides expanding as much as I can.

In general, practice expansion with a nation until you can get ~15 provinces and a fort under construction by the end of year one. If you can do that on an empty map, you should be good for multiplayer. Also don't ignore diplomacy. Fighting one neighbour is way easier than fighting all of them.
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>>159531161
Flaggs are shit though
>~15 provinces
In reality you get like 10 if you're lucky and you're on a cramped map
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>>159532528

Yes. Exactly. If you can get 15 on a map that isn't contested, you can guarantee you'll be in a decent position on a map that IS.
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Do Power of the Spheres and Light of the Northern Star stack?
i.e. if I have a good S and D mage and a couple of S1s in communion, and he casts both spells, does that make the slaves all S3, letting him then cast skelespam forever?
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>>159533086
They do stack. Not sure what that has to do with Skelespam however.
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>>159533086
They stack, but LotNS won't help skelly spam.
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>>159533275
>>159533305
I thought the slave's magic level reduced the fatigue he took each turn. Does it have to be a same path spell?
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>>159533478
It does. Power of the sphere's will increase the slaves D magic level and reduce fatigue provided the slaves have D levels.
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Team indecisive proving once again that their name is well deserved.
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I have never seen that before. What does it do in the detail ? Can they turn into something really cool ?
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>>159528654
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE DO TURN REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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How do you limit a pretender to a single nation, in a single age? I want to make a buffed Iron Angel for MAUlm as a pretender because I think it'd be cool
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>>159535137
just give them oceania and be done with it.
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What scales influence Marverni boar spawns?
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>>159535357
whoops i'm dumb forgot pic
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>>159536560
Dominion I think.
>>159536591
The only thing I know for sure they can turn into is extra candles for your dominion score but they can turn into other shit yes.
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>>159536468
Presumably their second pick is Shinyu since thats what they picked before someone let them have Ulm but for whatever reason they need more than seven hours to type that into a computer.
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>>159536935
Mostly they turn into other monkey commanders it seems.
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NEETONLY AAR is now complete. you can read it here:

https://cruxador.wordpress.com/category/aar/neetonly/
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>>159536560
I've seen someone say it a chance to spawn per point of dominion before, but I've seen them spawn multiple in one turn so there's more going on.
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>all ready to join a game
>but can't think of a meme name

help
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>>159538970
"Malakal"
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Chinks, where are you heading with that army of yours?
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>>159538970
Trump or Hillary.
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>>159538970
>meme name
Why not name your god something cool instead?
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>>159539225
Is this about muhbalance, aka the game with Malakal playing anonymously?
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>>159539463
Cool mythological names would just overlap with default ones and people will think I'm an AI.
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>>159537816
Thank based Cruxador, I enjoy reading the tales of your failings, that I may not commit the same sins
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>>159539862
I-it wasn't all failing this time, only at the very end! And kind of the beginning, but that was within expectations and the middle went exactly as I wanted it to.
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>>159539512
yes.

t. Malakal
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>>159540334
Pretty sure TC player doesn't visit /domg/.
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How come /domg/ still hasn't managed to put up a direct connect server of their own? It's so much more convenient when you don't have to deal with the whole email ordeal, and the server even automatically sends you any missing files (map, mod) when you connect.
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>>159538970
I usually come up with the pretender then meme the name. like taking a tri bless sleeping god and dropping the name Awake Expansion Pretender
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>>159528654
if you were so keen to do turns why did you extend the game by two days? checkmate
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>>159528654
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159541262
If I'm not mistaken, direct connect requires an instance of the game open for every game running. The advantage of PBEM is that it's much more scalable.
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>>159543162
Llama wasn't accepting turns last night so based goodmin made sure no one would be forced to stale.
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Just another reminder to the Latus 4 admin to please remove Abysia. Unless you actually want me to be playing 2 nations I guess.
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>>159541262
Moggers is working on that.
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>>159543581
You need 2 CD keys for that
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Frozen giants why?
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>>159543759
Innovative!
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>>159543759
Niefelheim doesn't need a bless.
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>>159543706
>implying I dont have 2 CD keys
I actually dont and dont want to take up a space someone else might want.
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>>159543895
Looks like jotunheim to me m8.
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>>159543895
you get a perfectly respectably N3 tree for N9 skittle batteries,
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>>159543269
The only time Dominions takes any noticable amount of resources is when it's processing a turn, anyway.

Also, on a direct connect server it's possible for a single player to play multiple nations in a single match.
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>no one will ever post a rubbadub map

I just want to see what the kangz are up to

also how fomoria is faring vs hinnom
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>>159544749
Can you really not see the full map? It's quite small, I have scouts everywhere but inner Hinnom
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>>159544839
i didnt find a single scout prov
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>>159544268
I'm not sure how that last bit is an advantage. Might be worth looking into, otherwise.
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>>159544749
Fomoria is in my capring now, but the army he's using is pretty small with not a lot of support so it's more 'busy trying to deal with Kailasa' than 'oh no unassailable mighty force'.
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>>159544989
It means that in team games teammates can sub for each other.

It also allows for formats like where a player plays an entire team and whatnot.
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>>159536591
>>159535357
Unfortunately it's only seem cool. In reality reincarnation works really bad because THE CHANCE to actually reincarnate is really low. And I have never seen a soldier to reincarnate, only monkey-mages do that. The chance is slightly better if the mage has high experince and costs a lot. Rishi tends to reincarnate far more frequently compared to Yogi. How frequently? Every third-forth Rishi would reincarnate and every 50th Yogi would too, I believe.
They can turn into a candle on the map, or they can revive in the capital in the form of any recruitable comander of your nation. Reincarnated one have no afflictions, but his experience remains, so sometimes it's very nice when your Yogi will revive as the bandar Comander with the 4 stars and immediately capable to lead about 200+ units.

But let me repeat, THE CHANCE IS VERY LOW. You can kill 40 mages capable to reincarnate and none of them gonna do that. That is very upsetting.
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>>159544749
The war against hinnom is going very well. Mostly because I haven't fought anything other than PD.
>>159545102
I did say I had a small army.
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>>159545319
I do wish you'd leave rather than fight me. I don't want to have enemies, only friends.
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>>159545319
If you siege a defenseless palisade down you can recruit more mens on the fly

And if you can't take him in a 1-on-1 fight just keep moving around and decapping provinces
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>>159545434
We will be much better friends when you except the teachings of Clifford the Big Black Dog.
>>159545451
I dont think he really has the resources to fight me now so its not too much of a problem.
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>>159545671
the last army he built ran into Yomi's tengu raiders so you should be good to go
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>>159543162
Is this the real Degenerate Doujinist or is someone memeing us?
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>>159545819
How did the tengu beat a full squad of giants? Did anyone have a scout in that province and can post the battle report?

Surely 4prot fliers couldn't take out an entire squad of giants unless they lucked out and got the commander.
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>>159546738
it was just some sad remains: a few giants and tribesman, not an army in any sense of the word

also MACHAKA SEND YOUR TURN EREEEEE
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>>159544162
I can't go back to other communions after using shrouded N9 skratti.
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Does anyone have any experience with cataclysm mod? What sort of pretender should I go for? I assume awake, to find more sites/uniques faster, but should I just use an earth snake or is something else a better option? The mod does give you a wide breadth of pretender access.
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>>159539225

22. Stay north of that and we'll have no problems.
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Lemurian Thread.
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Machaka and Riley you two actually need to play the game if we're going to wait on you for turns

Attack someone or at least cast a global or something
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>>159547256
Anyone? Any help or advice would be appreciated.
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Is anyone close to winning, or is it gonna be cancer for the next 40 turns?
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>>159547256
>>159551940
You're going to end up with a stupid number of varied sacreds so take a good bless, scales to maximize gold for temples, and high magic so you can make use of your stupidly high gem income.
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>>159552298
Stupidly high gem income, because I will be finding a variety of magic sites, or? I've seen a lot of recommendations elsewhere for an awake pretender to grab more territory, but you think it's better to take something imprisoned or dormant with scales / bless?
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>>159552298
>Take a big bless, good scales, and loads of magic paths

:^)))))))
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>>159555131
Yeah I'm confused about that too.
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>>159555131
He's right, you should also make sure you take an awake expander and late-game supercombatant
Ideally you should be under 1000 creation points
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>>159555335
Just kill me now.
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>>159448841
I have no intention of stealing Yomi from Kailasa while they are fighting the good fight against you.

>Oh, and an added bonus - I have yet to start a single fight against an active player this whole game, in comparison to Ulm who viciously assailed both Marverni and Ermor without provocation.
Yeah, you've been poaching AIs rather than spending resources. It's shameful that I've had to attack my neighbors in a wargame. What a dick! I should have flown across the map to Asia so I could fight AIs like you. Also, I was definitely provoked. Marveni and ermor both attacked my steel waifus.
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>>159557334
>poaching AIs

Wow, I didn't know Caelum, Abysia, and Kailasa were all AIs. Truly shocking news.

The former two involved me coming to the aid of my allies, and the latter involved Kailasa attacking me . . . for some reason. I'm sending my troops through his forts in an attempt to find the reason. Wish me luck.

Besides which I'm reasonably confident that the AIs were more difficult to deal with than the clean-up effort you performed on the broken shell of Fomoria.

As for Yomi, I am greatly appreciative that you won't be further expanding your grasps into Asia like you did in the Med, England, and Meso-America.
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Here's a general question to Ulm and Hinnom: Which of you is playing a nation with a stronger late-game?
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>>159559702
Blood a priori has the strongest late-game.
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>>159558918
Yeah, I came to the aid of my allies too. Wolf tribe in province 151 was attacked by marveni after they had sworn their allegiance, and Pan asked me to invade one of the people fighting him so he could honorabru 1v1.

Seriously, I'm not sure why you think this matters. The fact that you've been gangbanging your neighbors instead of fighting them 1v1 is a point against you, not a point in your favor.

>>159559702
I think we all know the answer to that. Hinnom will, of course, argue that it is me because I have more research than he does, but the truth is that he's a B/S nation with national blood summons and rec-everywhere bloodhunters with dowsing. Also, per his own statements, he has at least one S4B3 random, making astral corruption very likely, very soon.
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>>159552298
Or take no bless and go for an awake expander or someone with lots of blood.
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>>159408760
The wheel has turned once again
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huh...
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>>159561474
Good thing your labs are only 250.
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>>159561908
Is Arco even still alive in Latus?
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>>159562514
Everyone who's alive in Latus are going to experience severe difficulties concerning their living conditions very soon.
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>>159562717
>Utterdark

Well, that'll come in handy. Saves me from having to cast cave darkness in every fight.
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Bit of an old rough and tumble with the ghosts. I think my boys gave a good account for themselves but it is going to delay any further help from my end.
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>>159559702
Hinnom, do you have an answer?
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>>159563259
Also what the fuck is apostasy?
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>>159563453
National spell for lemuria, it's basically holy charm but mr-negates easily and only affects sacreds.
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Also Agartha I am happy not to fight over the UW provinces.
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>>159563259
>>159563636
I had two other fights this turn too! =)
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>>159563283
Well, outside of theory craft Hinnom has never won a single late game.

They only ever reached it once, during Stalewarriors, where they lost (but to Xibalba, which has a retarded strong end game, so that says little).

Saying Hinnom has a strong endgame is much like saying Yomi is a weak nation - people said that, and the nation instead has a very solid win-rate.

Also, while I'm sure Ulm has enough money to potentially make use of recruit anywhere Melqarts with his shitton of income, I don't. Only advantage that change had was the ability to not have the eat my capital. yay?

To be entirely honest, the only big buff summod had on Hinnom was adding dousing bonus to the Kohens - making them better at blood hunting than damn warrior scouts.
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>>159563994
At least I did better than Jomon.
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>>159563979
works for me, if you moving somewhere just give me the headsup
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>>159563160
>Utterdark
Does this look like a face of mercy, Agartha?
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>>159564131
I'd say you did the best, actually. Mari actually did the worst in terms of scripting =(

He should have won that battle by a LOT more, given that he had more of everything and significant mage support. He kept his crossbows in a double line, which is really bad because it both makes some of the crossbows far away from what they're shooting and doesn't leave empty spaces for bolts to fall into. This meant that more of my shots were hitting than his, so I did more with my crossbows in spite of having fewer and his having flaming arrows. He also put his mages in his archer line, which meant that they got shot up by all the fire-archer stacks. =)

Still, he won the fight and I had no retreats, so I lost everything there, which meant that he lost only a liiittle more gold than I did. =(
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>>159564875
>=(
>=)
>=(
Are you ill?
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>>159565060
I'm calling the police, you fucking sicko.
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Jesus Christ Machaka
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>>159565110
Please do not call the police =(
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>>159564875
btw I'm considering that offer
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>>159565110
>>159565187
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>>159565110
>calling the police on a ghost
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>>159565338
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>>159565171
What happened.
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>>159565525
we are always waiting on the one player who has been MIA since turn 10
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>>159565259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpyH95K7wxg
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>>159565618
Reminder that Machaka has done nothing wrong.
Wez good boys
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>>159568264
Except for not TAKING A DOUBLE TURN
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>>159563994
>forgot to rescript by eft snake after using it for uw expansion
Fuck everything.
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Has it been confirmed that mages ignore spell scripting for small enemy numbers?

And has anyone tested what that number is?
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>>159568436
But I did...
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>>159568470
I know my fomor druids went full retard when I killed Hinnoms pd.
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>>159550443
Yeah, you're right. I'll attack somebody this turn.
Every turn I look at the research and think "in a couple turns I'll have spell X, maybe that will make me able to actually kill dudes on land" but no expansion is why my research is so shit and why I'm so starved for gems to begin with. I think in retrospect I shouldn't have picked an underwater nation for my first multiplayer game, or a multiplayer game for my first experience with an underwater nation.
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>>159568470'>>159568726

They do not USE GEMS for small enemy numbers. That number is relative to either the total HP or siege strength on either side (don't remember which is used). When scripted to use gems, they use something else. Even if the HP or strength ratio isn't high enough, they will still use gems when facing an enemy with 15+ gems in gear or a mage with 4+ paths and 4+ gems. They also will start using gems past a certain point if the battle is still going (I think turn 15? Don't remember exactly, but it's early enough to be VERY annoying)

They otherwise do follow script. Naturally, they won't follow script when they rely on something else. EG, stormpower->thunderstrike is impossible without storm, which means that the druids scripted to do so will do other stuff.
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>>159568726
Your pitiful giants cannot stop my mighty TRIBESMEN OF DESTRUCTION.

>>159568939
Please don't attack me fish, not after before. :(
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>>159568968
any idea what the exact number is?

is there an old thread about it?
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I always feel like I'm making the wrong choices when I'm buying troops.
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>>159569353
I know that the gem/item numbers are known. There's a thread on dom3mods on it. The hp or siege strength ratio hasn't been tested anywhere when afaik (I did look for it). I also don't remember the turn # that gem use kicks in again, but I think that's known too.
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Yomi take your turn
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>>159568968
I didnt tell a single druid to cast thunderbolt. I scripted them to cast spells that require no gems.
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>>159569979
Were there no enemies in range? because afaik, there's nothing that turns off scripting legal spells
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>>159570080
I thought about that so I moved them further forward and still they didnt follow the script. Starting to think druids cant read.
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>>159570191
I'm okay with this.
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>>159570191
Would be comfortable e-mailing me your last turn and the current one? I've literally never seen what you're describing. What spells were you trying to cast?
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If I have alt 5 for EA Atlantis what should I aim for next? Not much water so I dont need monster fish and my pretender is handling the sight searching for now.
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>>159570330
I just told them all to spam orb lighting.
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>>159570686
>range 15
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>squids invaded the one spot on land where yomi and kailasa are going to be moving troops around
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>>159570990
>riley finally decides to attack someone
>gets sandwitched between two doomstacks
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Fucking africans, how have I been consolidation thrones? I have one throne and one I suicided some mercs into.
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>>159571259
Hi Fomoria. Come back. I want to be your friend.
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>>159571259
And I stopped attacking the jews as well.
>>159571367
You can take your 100 dawn guards and stick them where the sun does not shine.
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what thrones are these?

this is africa territory now that he's eating fomoria

i knew this was going to happen
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>>159553818
>>159555131
>>159555335
>Awake
>Pro: More territory
>Con: Weak sacreds

>Imprisoned
>Pro: A major bless for sacreds and scales
>Con: Less territory

That's your choice. I'd suggest imprisoned because you're bound to acquire a few different sacreds early on such as Jewish giants, valkyries, and/or undead vestals. You can use those to go to war with your awake neighbors and hopefully make up any territory differences.

>>159560352
Blood takes away a lot of guess work but there's so many other opportunities available that it isn't necessary to be competitive.
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>>159571467
I hear Fomoria is pretty overcast with all those storms.
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>>159571818
Africa is about to get pretty rainy when I find out where it is as well.
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>>159571654
Far right one is the one I just claimed.
Far left two are still controlled by indies and I'm not moving on the bottom one since I said R'yleh could have it. Middle two are split between Hinnom and Fomoria.

Now look, I know institutional racism has primed you to see me as the bad guy whose coming to steal your thrones/cars/women, but I assure you Machaka is a nation of peace.
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>>159572897
oh my god somebody stop africa
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>>159572897
Its about to be a nation of lightning rods.
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>>159573035
That's strange Fomoria, you appear to be hiding in a castle. I can't imagine why. I thought you wanted to be friends after coming all the way to my capring like that.
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>>159573270
For one thing I never planned to go as far as actually fighting your cap with my small army. I was going to let other guys finish you off.
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>hinnom and fomoria grind each other down
>kailasa and yomi
>ryleh is useless
>meanwhile the african doomstacks are spreading

its like watching a car wreck coming in slow motion
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>>159573458
Ryleh has decided to attack me as I expected he would, he even attacked where I thought he would. Unfortunately I didnt expect machaka to wade in.
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>>159573686
That's okay. You seemed keen on a gangbang. So you're getting one! Considerate of us, isn't it?
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>>159573737
have you actually won a fight this entire game that wasn't against pd or indies?
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>tutorial suggests placing elephants to the left so they don't trample your own shit if they are ever routed
>elephants have to move to the middle anyways to actually fight something
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>>159573826
Pictured: Fomorian summon
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>>159573737
This isnt my first time being on the receiving end of a gangbang and it wont be my last.
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>>159573826
I've had a total of one actual fight, which was the one against Kailasa. Time to see how this one goes.
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>>159573458
Don't bully...
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>>159573951
Try tossing in an attack rear or hold order.
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>>159573951
Put them on the bottom flank, and your troops on the left flank, with the elephants being scripted to attack rear.
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>>159574837
r/left/top
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Come on Yomi, my bloods up now and I'm ready to fuck shit up or die trying.
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These fast fucking turns
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So many people use elephants wrong. Honestly, the most important thing is to make sure that your units, especially mages, are not behind where the elephants will rout. That's what matters more than anything, and I still see you DUMB FUCKS putting a mage ball in the middle of your deployment zone
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Riley, whilst I do appreciate you stabbing Kailasa over there, I do actually want those provinces on that coastline back seeing as they were mine. I'd really rather not fight you for them fairly obviously since i'm happy to be friend to fish, like Aquaman. Giant cannibal jew aquaman.

To be clear I mean 39, 31, 29.
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>>159575246
Certainly looking like die trying right now. Still might as well make things as painful as possible before I go.
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>>159576138
It's okay. You came to my cap, so now i'm going to take a visit along your provinces until I find yours. Then you can hear the good word of my divine glyph. Or just sort of gaze on it and be blinded I guess.
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What happens if a dormant pretender God wakes up during a siege?
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>>159576462
He fights the besieging army.
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Hit me with your best (worst) /domg/ memes
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>>159576550
t. Malakal
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>>159576090
We can sort out who gets what once the dust has settled, I think. None of those are throne or fort provinces so they're largely irrelevant.
I do want to have some gains at some point in the game, though.
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>>159576276
I think you misunderstand friend. If I am going to die then I am going to make sure someone feels it. 38 dawn is a pretty pricey loss. Next turn I'll bring a couple more mages.
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Ah damn, I really needed to not stale last turn.
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YOMIIIIIIIII
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>>159576971
It would be if I wasn't mass-producing them. That was just what I could throw out in time to try to stall what I thought would be a continuing advance.

>>159576820
I'm sorry, but I literally lost them just a few turns ago. I am taking those back. Please understand that I'm not going to lose them to Kailasa and then immediately forfeit claim to them.
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>>159578229
Fair enough. Maybe I'll pick on Fomoria.
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>>159578458
Fomoria is about to suicide bomb the jews so you might as well not bother.
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>>159578556
t. Fomoria
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>>159579359
t. Pan
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YOMI PLS
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RIP Yomi
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>>159576550
>>159576657

t. Pan
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yep that's what i was looking for
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>>159580947
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
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>>159581257
c'mon son
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>>159580947
>>159581257
>>159581589
someone explain

t. not malakal
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Riley, please don't make it like this. You know I don't want to do this.
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>>159582269
>t. not malakal
Nice try, Malakal. You've almost got me.
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>>159582314
That was a pretty funny battle. I'm not sure why the prophet didn't spam Smite on your Ba'al though.
Anyway I pulled back.
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>>159582595
foiled again
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>>159581589
>>159582269
Please do explain. I'm not seeing what's special about 3 earth gems and empty misc slots.
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How many lads do you need in a communion to boost a path again?
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>>159582786
Rain of memes?
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>>159582949
with no air?
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>>159564124
Does Hinnom have a stronger lategame than Ulm or no?

This is not a difficult question.
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>>159582786
i was expecting an eq drop so i jumped through a bunch of hoops scripting wise

oh well this should be an epic battle either way
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>>159582756
Thanks. I will admit though, this did make me realise my distinct lack of anti-skelespam gear on that kit since it's designed for fighting 'not skelespammers'. I can fix that though, which is good to discover in a fight where my guy doesn't get scratched.
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>>159583692
>E2 base
>earthquake drop
Look at the spell again, it's not possible.
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>>159583825
he's e3
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>>159583790
Whats wrong Hinnom? I thought you were coming to visit?
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Love the naming scheme, Machaka.
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oooh i paused after he castred earth power
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>>159583856
He's already cast earthpower. He has a reinvig icon and he also has 24 fatigue.
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fucking epic battle there yomi

i guess i can defend my little island indefinitely but i have no chance of leaving
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>>159583863
Changed my mind a little upon seeing you bringing friends over.
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Someone post all these epic battles that are happening.
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>>159585109
Thats fine, we'll just come visit you.
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>>159585185
i doubt there's anything cool happening o;utside of monkey island
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anyways yomi, its p obvious that africa needs to be stopped from taking all those thrones

pls turn around and go fight machaka
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have to eat dinner and do some actual work now

t. monkeys
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>>159586236
>wont be able to remove jews until stupid monkey sorts out his stupid normie life
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159586551
>remove jews
From where I'm sitting it looks like you just lost two thrones, Fomoria. Are your priorities in order?
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>>159586875
It was only 1 throne. I had one encircled but I didn't have the forces to take it. I am also financially crippled, have bad gem income and am being attacked by three nations so I might as well go out with a bang and fuck someone up before I die.

Specifically Hinnom because he was talking shit.
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>>159587117
giant on giant Acton is just wrong
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>>159587308
Hinnom was pretty eager earlier. If he talks big he should expect big consequences.
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>>159587501
Heard you talking big like I wouldn't find out, elf.
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>>159587501
>>159587861
was getting Elf'd part of your plan?
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>>159587861
No elfing here senpai, just T-strikes.
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>>159588110
T-striking man-eating giant elves? At least you aren't dabbling in death magic.
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>>159588336
You seem to be a bit confused.
Hinnom is man-eating jews.
Fomoria is T-striking and does have death magic.
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>>159588898
I need someone to sub for johuntheim. TBh your small and pathetic but you border a Big AI nation so you have room to be relevant still and he's not at war with anyone besides the AI as far as I know
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>>159588898
So they are T-striking man-eating giant elves who try to ruin everything with death magic?
You're not making a very good case for them, you know.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

Shilling this tbqhfampaitachisama
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>>159590697
Mostly I am trying to ruin everything with air magic.
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>>159590697
All i'm saying is Fomoria doesn't eat people, and Hinnom can't really t-strike effectively. Although they both actually have death magic now that I check.
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Why isn't there an Arabic/Muslim inspired nation? Is it because the devs are Swedes and are afraid of getting honor killed?

EA could be foreign recruit nomadic tribal Arabs, Arabian nights style shit in castles, death, astral, fire, ancestral spirits...

MA is the birth of notIslam with powerful inquisitor priests etc.

LA are notTurks with sacred slave warriors and sheit
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>>159591794
There's a djinn modnation series
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>>159591794
We already have Abysia.
I think someone actually made a series of modnations based on that idea
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>>159591794
>human nation in EA
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>>159592128
>ermor
>ulm
>marverni
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If you cast a spell that sends an assassin at a fort that is being besieged that is being fought over by two different nations which one gets attacked?
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>>159592253
Add Arcosephale to that and you have every single culture of any note from that period of time.
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>>159591082
Hinnom's D1 barely counts, since you can't really use it for anything.

Fomoria actually has useful levels of death magic, albeit cap-only.
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>>159592723
>can't use it for anything
Says you.
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>>159592789
says the guy who is leaning on deer tribe archers
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>>159592723
In Summod you can make Shadow Brands.
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>>159592253
Oh, I know that they exist (and add Sauro, Machaka, TC, and Mictlan)

but why would you want more humans?
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>>159595221
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>>159595272
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>>159595221
>>159595272
>>159595295
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>>159595221
Is that some kind of... gay clown?
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>>159595378
worse, a buddhist
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>>159592789
What are you using it for, then?
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>>159595914
Reanimation.
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>>159595378
>>159595627
That's why gods are better.
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>>159595971
Fun fact, not me. I'm going to sleep so any stuff for the next while won't be either.
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>>159595378
I'm sure you've seen her before
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RUBBADUBDUB

currently the max points africa might get from thrones is 7. it takes 8 to win. the throne riley is sitting on is worth 3 points and is probably poorly defended

therefore, it is necessary to take at least two thrones from africa asap
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>>159564853
>Wish

Uh, please don't. This game is soul-draining enough without everyone dying horribly.
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>>159596276
Also you should give Riley lots of gold and gems to help fortify that throne.
t. not a squid
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>>159596276
>therefore, it is necessary to take at least two thrones from africa asap
I only have two thrones.
Oh, but I get it. As soon as the black man starts moving up in the world everybody gotta push him right back down. Shameful
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>>159596579
It was an inevitability desu
The end times are now upon us
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>>159597936
as of right now you are sitting on two thrones

it would be pretty easy for you to get the 8 points considering how everyone is in a fight for their life except you
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>>159599303
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>>159600104
Do you even read Chinese? These pictures are all Chinese memes
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>>159595295
>>159595272
>>159595221
oh right, that touhou mod. How's that coming along? I was wanting to try it.
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>>159600314
Of course I don't understand all the Kanji. I'm in on this just for the adorable pictures and the engrish nonsense.
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>>159600649
It's not kanji, it's Chinese.
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>>159600649
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>>159600771
Call the weeb police. And watch your ass.
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>>159601159
Like, no, literally all of these are just Chinese memes that the artist drew a picture for and tried to translate
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>>159601159
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>>159601264
The meme is that the translator's shit english comes across as Mokou being adorable and engrishy
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>>159601264
I know. That meme is about destroying someone's anus.
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>>159601391
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Here's a topical one
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>>159601631
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I think concerning all these touhou pictures this is a masterwork.
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>>159601968
>>
>Fujiwara no Mokou (藤原 妹紅) was formerly an ordinary human, but she became an immortal being after drinking the Hourai Elixir about 1300 years ago. Now she is never able to die, though she still feels the pain of injuries as normal. She's considered to be very powerful, given her long life, the power she earned through her life, and her immortal status since she can keep fighting until she can no longer stand the pain.

Pretty sad, actually. She doesn't seem to be a mythological monster.

>Mokou was finally possessed by the desire for immortality, so she murdered Iwakasa and stole it from him, consuming it and thus became immortal.

But she is a murderer.
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>>159603139
she wouldn't have done if NEET moon princesses didn't fuck off with her own immortality
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>>159600771
lel I pissed off a Chinese lady once by referring to it as kanji too
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fun fact for the day.
chinese people are not actually bad at driving
old people are
you just cant tell the age of chinese people
that is all.
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>>159604524
Nah. I hang out with a lot of Asian people. Even in their 20s, Chinese people are bad at driving.
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>>159604624
yeah i know, koreans are the same.

look up the road toll in thailand for lulz
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>>159604524
I almost got hit by a Chinese looking woman who was speeding through a crosswalk.
My Taiwanese friend always talks about how scary it is to drive in Taiwan and China because people are so crazy on the road.
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Save us from Ermor!
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>>159608332
Can I just bump with ebin memes?
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>>159608746
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>>159608746
yes
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Good news, everyone: I hate myself and I want to die.
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>>159608746
>Dormant Earth Snake
Awful des~!
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>>159610332
Why?
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>N mage script ends
>starts casting berserk on my commanders and archers
why
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>>159611226
The short of it is that the AI weighs the value of the different spells that it can casts, and it modifies those values based on how likely its spells are to actually hit the enemy v friends etc before choosing which one to cast. Your nature mage there at the back looks through its various spells and sees some offensive spells that are out of range / unlikely to hit the target, and then it sees some buff spells. It then checks the recipients of the buff spells, sees that they're not mages, and decides to make them berserk.

It will generally prefer Wooden Warriors to the berserk spells, but if you already have mass prot up, there aren't a whole lot of other spells in nature that it can cast.
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Best pretender chassis in the game, with no specific nation in mind? Perhaps just the most point-efficient, or the one that has the most unique attributes.
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>>159612839
Erf snek.
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>>159612839
Earth snake. Reliable expander that leaves you with good scales.
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>>159612839
For awake Earth Snake, expands well, can put points into scales, add Earth magic to your own liking.

Pantokrator chassis is the best hands down.
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>>159612870
>>159612894
>>159612980
I could definitely see that. This is for a cataclysm game, so there is a risk for going for a bless and not being able to effectively use it - counterbalanced by the risk of not being able to expand well. Mmrrr, I don't know what to dooo, too many options when I don't have a nation dictating them for me.
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>>159613208
For Cataclysm you definitely want a good bless because by the distribution of probability you are almost guaranteed to get at least one good sacred during expansion, possibly more.
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>>159613447
Is expansion easy enough with the default units? W9 seems a strong base bless.
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is there an easy way to screencap dom4?

i just get desktop erry time.
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>>159614024
Are you using Steam?
If so F12 is screenshotting
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>>159614539
oh yeah i fully forgot about that
i am on steam, but fuck i hate it.
they keep wanting to txt me or sumshit.
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>>159614698
>not sexting with gaben
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>>159614698
You mean the Steam authentication? It is only useful if you are stupid enough to fall for scams or use your Steam account on computers also used by other people.

And remember, even if you find no utility in those features there are millions of people that do, hence they exist.
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>>159613208
If you're going for a bless, I think your best options are N9, B9, or W9 (possibly with a minor, depending on what chassis you take)

N9 is generally useful for everything. I'm not sure how common recruitables which can be thugged or SCed are, but it will help them a lot if you find any.

W9 is probably ideal for most sacred units, but not very useful for commanders.

B9 makes it hard for enemy players to use evocations against your sacreds. It probably won't improve their combat power as much as the other blesses, but making your enemy switch up his tactics is valuable.
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Anyone notice that W is the only path not on any of the demon lords?
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>>159615419
Right, that is exactly what I was thinking. The next question then is: which pretender chassis are the most efficient in terms of points? Irminsul seems very good for N9, for example.
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>>159615828
why not horned one then for n9?
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>>159616123
disregard, i dont know how to read dom4 modinspector
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>>159616527
I mean, you pay 1.5 scales for mobility and equipment slots, so it may not be toooo bad. But if you just want scales and a major bless irminsul seems more efficient.
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>>159615434
Yeah, I've noticed it. I don't think there is any thematic significance to it, though since the extant demon lords don't exactly represent any specific magical paths (with good faith you could say Pazuzu and Buer are air and fire respectively but Geryon for example doesn't scream "nature!" by a long shot). Demons from Kokytos might be lower rank in the hierarchy of Hell than those from other infernal planes (Summon Ice Devil has the lowest cost and research requirements) but that probably has nothing to do with their representation as Demon Lords.
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What were the specifics of succubus seduction, again?
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>>159617471
First off, you will want to equip both the bear and cat talismans on your succubus...
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Which season does age and afflictions caused by age occur in?
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>>159610454
I started playing Dom4 again
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>>159618471
Serves you right. Should've known better than to pick up the autistic turn based game where turns can take hours.
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>>159618471
Why, though?
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>>159618412
Late winter.

>>159614024
Switch into the windowed regime. Take screenshot and edit it however you like.
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Why the hell would anyone stuff their forts with mindless longdead that cost blood slaves to summon?
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>>159619383
Need not eat?
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>>159620128
First of all, starving wolves are WAY better at defending forts than mindless undead, read the manual. Second, you can cast Pale Riders and spend D gems on good troops instead of shit longdead-tier demon skellies that are bullied even in hell. Blood slaves are way more valuable than that.
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>>159620236
Hey, I'm mystified by it too, I was just trying to guess why he did it
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>>159620271
Well, he didn't summon his sacred wolves at all and never used skratti communions, so I guess it's just his lack of experience.
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Monster of Fraud to the rescue
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>>159621749

Buer best sun!
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>>159621749
>>159623352
Pazuzu is arguably the best demon lord, but game-wise and lore-wise.
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>>159615419
Favorite pretender for W9 bless out of the nonUW ones?
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Any new memes in the current games?
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only need two more before we can show everyone the True Man's World
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Steel_Domg_Run
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Just posting this here.
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>>159630632
i will join when i get back from classes later today if there are spots!
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Burds got spooked pretty hard
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>>159487137

Thanks, it became though honestly bit too easy when Agartha started to stale.

I worried bit if you or Jotunheim would notice me taking control of so many thrones without claiming them yet, but I guess you were busy enough.
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>>159630632

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

And CastInTheNameOfBob is half way to capacity. Come on!
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>>159617471
Dream Seduction is similar to regular seduction, except first there's an MR check and if the person passes then no seduction roll happens. However, the seduction check v morale is significantly higher than regular seduction (either 11 or 13 v morale rather than 9 v morale)
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>>159635840
I kinda want to join that game just to have a pretender named Crom
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memes
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>>159637378
so is that song actually about the elements at all, or was that just a visual thing for the dance?
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>>159637378
I still remember this meme. I played a draenei in wow and they had that dance.
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>>159637378

Ragha sacred mage game strong.
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>>159637346

Live your dreams, anon!
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>>159637490
It's about love, what did you expect.

As the story goes, Indian critics were saying that the dude in the video was popular only because his songs featured beautiful women in their videos. Then he made this music video of himself dancing just to spite them, and it became the most popular thing ever.
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>>159627573
Bumpy bump~
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>>159631635
You're doing pankos work.
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>>159638369
Black dogo?
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>>159637202
And the result of failing the MR step is just that nothing happens?
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>>159638745
Right. You get a message about the target resisting the dreams
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>Machaka
>Unique nation concept based on tribal Africans with some neat folklore stuff baked in
>Middle nation
>They have spiders
>Giant spiders
>Giant tarantulas
>Giant slender horror spiders
>that will eat you
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>>159639201
>he doesn't know about Anansi the spider god of stories
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>>159639201
Sum1mod gives the sacred spiders fear because sum1 is afraid of spiders.
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Google is showing me dom4-related ads now. It's time to stop.
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>>159639661

Spiders are actually pretty bro-tier. They get rid of all kinds of pest bugs like mosquitoes and moths.
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>>159640808
Why they gotta be so spooky though?
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>>159639661

As they should be
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>>159640808

>Moths
>Pests
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>>159641720
Moth nation when?

And where's my fucking Bogarus EA nation shillfraud? I didn't pay 30 bucks for this game just to get underwater elves.
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>>159642112
EA Rus would not be cancerous enough to be released by Illwinter. Judging by the last releases, the next new nation has to at least have freespawn, glamour, popkill and be uw.
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>>159642357
>play therodos and get one of those 'recruit elves' sites

Done.
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>>159642112

Not sure how distinct they could make early slavic/baltic tribal groups in the time of the Romans.
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>>159642112
Personally I want my LA Machaka and MA Uruk.
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>>159642570
They would be based of Finnish paganism.
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>>159642745

Holy shit they really should make something based on the Kalevala
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>>159642570
>time of the Romans.

Thracians, Dacians, they're basically the ancestors of most of east europe. They had their own gods and shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalmoxis

>..the Getae are the bravest of the Thracians and the most just. 94. They believe they are immortal forever living in the following sense: they think they do not die and that the one who dies joins Zalmoxis, a divine being; some call this same divine being Gebeleizis. Every four years, they send a messenger to Zalmoxis, who is chosen by chance. They ask him to tell Zalmoxis what they want on that occasion. The mission is performed in the following way: men standing there for that purpose hold three spears; other people take the one who is sent to Zalmoxis by his hands and feet and fling him in the air on the spears. If he dies pierced, they think that the divinity is going to help them; if he does not die, it is he who is accused and they declare that he is a bad person. And, after he has been charged, they send another one. The messenger is told the requests while he is still alive. The same Thracians, on other occasions, when he thunders and lightens, shoot with arrows up in the air against the sky and menace the divinity because they think there is no god other than their own.
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>>159643361

I always assumed the Thracians were more the ancestors of places like Georgia, the Kazaks, and the Cossacks, and also intermingled with the Turkic people.
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>>159642570
>in the time of the Romans
Why? Nations like EA Arco, EA Ur or EA Vanheim are based on civilizations from entirely different periods.
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>>159643524
Well they were everywhere, scattered in dozen tribes like orcs in Warhammer. Some of those tribes like Dacians settled in east europe (leading to Romania)

Also
> The biggest part of Thrace is part of present-day Bulgaria.

Bulgaria and Romania are east european countries, so it should be cool.
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>>159643361
lel ancient people were fucking retarded
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>>159643948
t. someone 2000 years in the future looking at your post right now
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>>159643361
Fucking Thracians, bane of my existence in Rome total war.
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>>159643675

These were very distinct civlizations that existed in the historical/folkloreish attitude that Dominions is based on. Niefelheim and Vanheim being very much out of norse mythology, not representing bronze/stone-age norse civilization at the time, but rather the mythical pasts their mythology speaks of.

Eastern stuff is tougher, not as many distinct civilization, a billion people have moved through and settled these areas or forced out. The east is more a story of the movement of peoples rather than of a distinct strong civilization. Until room ran out in the more lucrative southern and western, then settlements started appearing(early Novgord, Kievan Rus, Muscovy, Poland and the Baltic Tribes that'd become Lithuania and Livonia)
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>>159645361
>ancient Poland
>not sauromatia

WE WUZ AMAZONS AND SHIET
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>lore master alive at end of battle
>dies in battle report

what happened?
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>>159645876
Your game bugged out, the battle view is wrong and the report is right.
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>>159645876
Run the game in Linux to find out.
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>Load my AT turn
EA abysia is conquering northern Scandinavia despite having no other provinces and has been separated from vanheim by at least three entire *nations* this whole time.

What the FUCK is going on?
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>>159645786

The Amazons was a greek meme based mostly on the Thracians and similar people around the periphery of the Black Sea. They spun stories about tribes of women who kidnapped men to breed with and cut off their breasts to be better archers.

This is probably because the Greeks were a highly patriarchal society, moreso than many other classic civilizations(some city states were akin to modern day islamists in how they viewed women, who shouldn't leave the house without male supervision, that sort of stuff), while the evil bar bars at the edge of civilisation had more egalitarian societies(not fully, but there were some nice memes about female scythian queens who blew the fuck out of the Persians)
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How does LA Atlantis protect itself against crossbows? Counter crossbows?
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>>159647365
LA Atlantis's heavy infantry in cold 3 are already nigh-immune to crossbows. Use them to soak fire. You should already be using indy crossbows to supplement your army against most kinds of enemies.
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>>159647365
Stygian rains and cold 3.
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How do I take advantage of all the shugenja magic paths as LA Jomon? I've heard that Swarm is good for nature 1 and Fire Jar + Phoenix Power -> Fireball works well with fire 1, but I'm not sure about the other paths. Or should I just have them all spam Earth Meld?

Are there any other tricks I should know? I'm pretty new to the game.
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>>159648592
The answer to this one depends very hard because you use the ones with different randoms to do different things, and which path-specific things they do depends on what you need them to fight against.
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>>159648592

I dislike LA Jomon just because their bread and butter mage is incredibly random in their paths. They can get good paths, but they can also get something dumb like E1N1W1F1 which is completely useless for battle magic.

Spamming the Onmyo-Ji is probably a better bet as you can communion them and boost whatever path you need. Then aim for their summons and especially do everything in your power to get one or more UW forts so you can get Dragon Kings, they are mandatory for you.
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>>159652089

No, moth thread.
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>>159652315
What would a moth nation be like anyway?
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>>159646197
I play on Linux and it keeps happening every now and then nonetheless.
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>>159652682

Like Xibalba except cute

Astral flying mages

The entire race has weakness to fire. No fire paths on any of their mages.
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>>159652682
Maybe flying, dark power, AoE fatigue damage ?
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>>159652796
>>159652817
It would probably have death too, because of the darkness theme and the death head moth.
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>>159652796
Solar Brilliance kills them instantly in battle.

Second sun removes them from the game.
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>>159652796
I'm down to do the modding for it if someone else can provice the sprites.
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>>159652949
Come to think of it. Would it be possible to mod a unit to take damage when not in darkness?
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>>159652936

Astral, death and nature. Not sure about darkness power, Moths likes light, but are always burnt by it.

Troops vary depending on moth species. The Emperor Moths are flying supercombatant-chassis with huge paths.

Moths don't really swarm so I think as opposed to Xibalba they should not be swarm based. Maybe high HP infantry of mediocre strength.
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>>159653142
No
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Purple and White, do your fucking turns. Don't make me kill another relative of yours.
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>>159653242
>Moths don't really swarm so I think as opposed to Xibalba they should not be swarm based. Maybe high HP infantry of mediocre strength
Why not a mobile mage nation like Caelum/Nazca? They could have fragile troops and rely on their mages to do the heavy lifting in fights
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>>159653242
>Moths don't really swarm
Some do.
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>>159653414

Well we already got them. And a mobile light infatry swarm nation. What about a fairly immobile/average speed flying nation(MM1/2) with high hp troops that have a lot of special attacks, like sleep and stuff.
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>>159653603
But they're moths, moths can fly.
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>>159654020

Not necessarily far or fast
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Which factions prefer to have an early expansion pretender?
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>>159654612
Everyone that doesn't take a major bless.
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>>159654612
Too many to count.
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>>159654738
>>159654739
Which factions want a late-game pretender?
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>>159655013
Preferably, all of them. Or at least something late-gamey for their pretender to do besides researching and spreading dominion.
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>>159655013
Any nation with shit diversity and really good units, like MA Ulm.
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Shillwinter-Approved Therodian Thred.
>>
I think I'm going to stale.

But then again, sex > nerd game.
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>>159659431
cool story bro
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>>159659431
I extended a game I was admining to go to a fetish event in SF. If you're in one of my games, I can give you an extension.
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>>159659943
what fetish?
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>>159660145
Bondage
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>>159660389
that entry tier shit? lame
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>>159660389
4/10
That's like the vanilla of kink.
>>
>>159660515
>>159660531
If it makes you degenerates feel better, it was a cool event where people brought in their custom-made furniture and shackle setups.
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>>159660687
but who was the boss of the gym?
>>
Sent in my pretender for domg run
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Alright we are full. this is the time WHERE I WARN YOU YOU HAVE EXACTLY 1 HOURS TO FINISH UP ANY EDITS TO YOUR PRETENDER. IF YOU WISH TO EDIT YOUR PRETENDER DO SO NOW BEFORE THE GAME STARTS
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>>159661536
Just to be clear, if someone else has the same meme name as me, I demand a restart.
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>>159661801
same
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>>159661801
>>159661915
>when everyone has the same meme name
>>
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/312265672107250359/?ctp=1

1. Agartha/Mari
2. R'lyeh/Pelagia
3. Nazca/Asphodel
4. Pan/Bandar
5. Jotun/Mictlan
6. Caelum/Arco
7. Vanheim/Vanarus
8. Ashdod/Abysia
9. Ulm/Man
10. Sceleria/Ermor

So, /domg/, who's gonna win this?
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>>159652164
Equip water bracellet and enjoy your green lions.
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>>159662430
Malakal.
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>>159662430
Lithuania or Nick's Boys are the top 2 contenders, but Carlix and Lukas have a shot. None of the other senpais are nearly as strong as players.
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>>159661536
IT'S ACTUALLY 2 HOURS NOW BECAUSE CARLIX ONCE AGAIN WAITED TILL THE LAST MINUTE TO DECIDED ON HIS PRETENDER CHOICE
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>>159662692
Also, the dude playing sceleria with the Ermor pretender is going to have a really bad time once it hits midgame and he can't afford to hire his mages. Massing mages is Sceleria's only real strat, and he'll run out of cash quickly if they can't somehow snowball.
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>>159662627
>Cirno
>winning
t. not Malakal
>>
>>159662843
Honestly, 8, 9 and 10 are all pretty innovative picks tbqh.
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>>159662924
World's Leading Sauromatia Expert Begins Jotunheim Investigation
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>>159661536
>>159662820
>game starts in 2 hours
>I'm going to sleep right now
>will have to go to work first thing in the morning which means 6 + 8 hours will pass before I get home
>not taking into account eating and traveling 1 hour

Don't complain to me about slow first turn then.
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>>159662843
>if they can't somehow snowball
TRIBLESS SHADOW VESTALS
R
I
B
L
E
S
S
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>>159662843

Wait, they're going Ermor pretender?

Fucking why?
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>>159663264
It's fine my dude. Just do a double tomorrow.
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>>159663697
Memes
>>
>>159663697
To be more Spooky.
>>
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

Join now for fun and memes
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>>159665480
>Lemuria and R'lyeh were the first two nations chosen
>fun
Yeah, no
>>
>>159665547
Cancer can be fun sometimes.
>>
>>159665547
>Dominions 4
>fun
Let's be honest here
>>
>>159666137
The Lemuria that recruited a bunch of indy crossbows and invaded someone is probably fun, but from the thread it looks like they're getting dicked for being so innovative
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>>159662692
>None of the other senpais are nearly as strong as players.

Wow. Rude.

Also true, but rude nonetheless.
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>>159666137
At 18 players Lemuria is liable to get buttraped before building up to any sort of terminal state anyways.
From the looks of it though it's being played by the admin so lets just hope he doesn't get btfo and abandon his admin duties
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>>159666258
Well I am dicking them because I got paid a bunch of money for it. And they are still managing to do pretty well against 3-4 players at the one time.
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>>159666336
>implying Lemuria's chances of getting rushed increase with player count
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>>159666165
this
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>>159627573
I don't know which pretenders cataclysm has, but the monsters (ormr, etc) are usually cheapest and can give a nice minor bless.
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>>159666420
Does he actually have crossbows or was he just diplomancing to avoid a rush?
My money is on the latter
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>>159666441
meh, I don't see Lemuria as a real threat regardless, I don't know why people are always so eager to remove them.
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>>159666507

>>159563994
Looks like actual crossbows to me

>>159666608
t. Lemuria
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>>159666683
=)))))))
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>>159666889
Fake. The real innovator only used =) and =(
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>>159666969
=((((((((
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>>159666507
He does have crossbows but I believe he hasn't gone full scales like he said.
>>159666608
Because no one wants to be stuck with shitty no population provinces taken from Lemuria.
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>>159666889
>>159667017
Are you Russian? They're the only people I've seen use more parentheses in smiles to show the degree of happy/sad
>>
>>159667063
>>159666608
Also no-one wants to deal with a bajillion ghosts in a fort.
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New Bread Where?
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>>159666336

If people are that scared of it I'll happily switch to C'tis or something, but I get the feeling as soon as I do someone else is gonna spook it up.
>>
No RubADub tonight?
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>>159669190
Someone is almost guaranteed to pick Lemuria regardless.
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>>159669215
are you going to fight fomoria or riley now
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>>159669375
I'm just chilling out now. I'm sure Fomoria won't attack into my reinforcing dawn guard and my PD and my tribesmen.
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>>159669801
yeah but i see that some of your guys are moving towards the riley land provinces
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>>159669801
Think again jew boy. I got like 20 T-strikes a turn coming your way.
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Okay, had to test it twice, but I found a bug on summod Xibalbaagain

You can't recruit the commander "Ajaw", which is really useful sometimes, and there is a gamechanging bug where for some reason you cant recruit bat commanders in forests. At least I didn't see a comment of sum1won on a change like that.
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>>159670158
Forest commanders were supposed to be StR. Do they not show up at all?
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>>159670668
They arent in there, they dissappeared. However there is a slow to recruit forest commander in xibalba's cap and other forts, but nowhere else.
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>letting carlix play bats
you brought this on yourself
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>>159669215
Bit surprised honestly, last week there was always a turn when I got home from work. Europe let me down this time
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>>159671430
Who are we waiting for?
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>>159671096
Oh, wait, I know what caused this. This is a bug related to the recent modding changes related to terrain recruitment. It used to be that the remove-all thing didn't actually remove terrain-rec units and we had to modify the base forest rec bat to be StR. Now it does, so the forest-rec bats are no longer there.

Luckily it's a pretty easy fix.
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>>159671283
I'm under da sea so I I'm not too worried to start with.
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Speaking of noob games, did the admin of ForNoobs go AI? After we did a restart when the last guy went AI? Fuckin' A. At least none of you rubber dubbers ragequit yet.

>>159671512
Greater Yomi Co-Prosperity Sphere
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>>159671567
Also, we can revert the changes to the original bats, which leaves the original units as fort-req and add the StR ones for forest req just to make things easier to follow.

Not sure about the Ajaw thing, but I'll look over it when I make the bacab changes
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>>159671430
will you please at least put a fort on that 3 point throne so you dont hand africa an easy win with it?
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>>159672345
For you, mon ami, anything
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>>159672494
mon cheri, will you stuff five hundred squids inside that tiny palisade?
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>>159672569
If it's on land, they will dry out and die very quickly.
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>>159672635
just pull them out and get them wet every once in a while

then stick them back in
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>>159672708
That's cruel
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>>159672708
that's what your mom said
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>>159672708
They go to one HP after a turn.
If I teleport them in from the mothership using a ritual spell, does it put them in the fort or does it force combat outside?
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>>159673050
if there's a siege there'll be combat
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>>159673327
Bullshit.
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>>159673327
Teleport spells always go inside the fort
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>>159674596

NEW THREAD

>>159674596
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>>159662430
>So, /domg/, who's gonna win this?
I'm betting on Mictlan/Jotunheim.

Jotunheim is the best MA blood nation and Mictlan will be extremely strong once their ally gets them into blood.
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