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2hu Edition

Previous thread >>159387548


Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm (embed)

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Jump into MP feet first
>Never create shitty threads with political images
>Work on your blogs, videos, and the wiki

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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>>159674596
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Thank god it's not another political image
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>>159674680
I knew you'd like it bby
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how'd that fomoria/hinnom fight go?
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

Are you game?
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>>159674892
Very, very quietly.
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Just waiting on the hotfix before the game starts
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>>159674892
I was lying the entire time. I wanted to hit machaka when he made a move on my provinces.
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>>159675270
Machiavellian as fug my man
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Is casting Communion Master/Slave, Summon Earthpower, Flight, Earthquake, Earthquake (spells) a valid strategy?
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>>159675169
It'll also need to wait for Sum1 to accept my changes after I make the hotfix
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Yomi Waiting for 2h file
Kailasa Waiting for 2h file
Hinnom 2h file received
R'lyeh Waiting for 2h file
Machaka Waiting for 2h file
Fomoria Waiting for 2h file

Step it up.
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>>159675358
Thank you. Just as well too, Hinnom sent a Ba'al with a shadow brand, a vine shield, a dragon helmet, copper plate, winged shoes, girdle of might and ring of regeneration and I'm not sure how to deal with him.
>>159675749
Dont expect too many turns from me tonight. I am tired as fuck and have shit to do tomorrow.
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>>159676131
Frozen Heart.
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>>159676131
Actually scratch that, I have a plan.
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>>159676131
Curse + either chaff or PD

a couple of afflctions will teach him who's the boss of this gym
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>>159675428
No, it takes way too long and is exhausting. Try to use crystal matrixes, earth boosters and ring of levitation.
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>>159675428
Yes it is don't listen to the other guy. I've communioned E2S1s up for army of gold.
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>>159676131
Protip: his Ba'al cannot advance against basic skeleton spam, unless he's changed him up significantly. Hinnom and I had a really funny battle where my squid cast raise dead over and over and his giant killed the skellies but couldn't move forwards.
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So, asking again.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/312265672107250359/?ctp=1

1. Agartha/Mari
2. R'lyeh/Pelagia
3. Nazca/Asphodel
4. Pan/Bandar
5. Jotun/Mictlan
6. Caelum/Arco
7. Vanheim/Vanarus
8. Ashdod/Abysia
9. Ulm/Man
10. Sceleria/Ermor

Whose got this. What memes can be expected from each team, i.e. try to predict the wonder builds.
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>>159677232
He sent another Ba'al with much the same gear apart from messenger boots. The non flying one is now good and horror marked though.
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>>159677308
>Sceleria/Ermor
I sure wonder.
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hinnom do you really want trisia that badly
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>>159677998
Sceleria is going to have a rough time when all his population starts to die.
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>>159678170
This is a newbie game, right? Learning to not kill your population seems like a pretty good lesson to me.
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>>159678284
Its supposed to be an experienced player/scrub player team up.
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>>159678284
Not possible. Apparently their team started without a sempai considering they thought it would be smart to make Ermor the pretender.

Of course, its summod, so they run into the conundrum that to get extra D gems Ermor *has* to be the pretender. Or, Ermor is the second weakest nation in summod disciples (Oceania is still worse).
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>>159677308
Posted in last thread without noticing we had a new one, so reposting my response.

>Whose got this.
I'm betting on Mictlan/Jotunheim.

Jotunheim is the best MA blood nation and Mictlan will be extremely strong once their ally gets them into blood.

>try to predict the wonder builds.
Most of the choices have fairly obvious plans, but I'm not sure what Ashdod/Abysia and Nazca/Asphodel are planning.

Nazca/Asphodel might just have been a case of them wanting to snatch up two strong nations, but I really don't see how Ashdod/Abysia go together well.
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Sorry to disappoint those expecting more fast turns but unless I get a new turn in like 10 seconds I must go to sleep.
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>>159678481
What do you expect from Man/Ulm?
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>>159678481
what's stopping Jotunheim/Mictlan from getting punched in the face for being super rushable?

Other than the power that is Malakal bitching in thread about how weak he is and people should attack X instead?
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Hello my friends. =)

The war continues on, BUT! I have found a bug. =(

Specifically, I have a temporary death gem making item whose sprite appears to be a penis?
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>>159678641
Or the two UW nations?
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>>159678985
let me guess, summod again?
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>>159678985
Remember, a wizard's staff has a knob on the end
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>>159678641
Strange combo with Man getting Knights of Avalon in magic 2 forests and Ulm being dependent on gold/prod scales but utilizing drain as a dump 9 times out of ten.
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>>159678985
I believe that is from a copy of summod that someone else has fucked with. Same thing happened to me but I had no sprite and it made the game crash.
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>>159679082
If you look at summod's sprites directory, it actually has three dicks: a limp dick, an erect dick, and a black dick.
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>>159679082
wtf keep the silliness in magic enhanced
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>>159678950
Reminder to always rush malakals.
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>>159679039
Hol up. Isn't that map for more than 2 UW nations?
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>>159679336
3 UW nations but no one wanted to join me under da sea
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>>159678985
Oh, and another strange bug - Jomon's army in 84 does not appear on the overland map. I checked his commanders' items, and it doesn't look like he has anything to hide troops. Some of the amazons were shrunken, but... nothing has glamor. Very strange! =)

>>159679170
Aha, yes, I remember. Then Llamaserver apparently is playing on that version of summod instead of the normal 0.70.

That also explains the penis then. I believe I had renamed one of them to get around that same crash.

Okay, all makes sense now. =) When I take this gem gen into battle, other people may crash if they do not have a sprite with the appropriate name in their summod folder, though.
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>>159679082
That's moggers' addition to summod.
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>>159679336
They had to fuck with it a bit because no one wanted to be gangbanged underwater.
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>>159678641
Full scales for their pretender.

In terms of strategy, I'm expecting Ulm to focus on fighting the direct battles with enemy armies while Man does stealthy stuff and raids enemy provinces.

>>159678950
I'm definitely hoping that does happen, but I think they have by far the strongest picks if they can survive earlygame.

>>159679039
Rushing cancer globals. Their team name seems to be a reference to the /domg/ team in community clash.

>>159679336
Do you want to pick a third water nation and fight by yourself against a Pelagia and R'lyeh team?
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our girl
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>>159679695
Literally who?
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>>159679406
That means six free extra provinces for both of you guys.
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>>159678481
I don't know why you don't think nazca and asphodel won't work, both enjoy a double bless and asphodel can buy their mages all game long since they won't die from pop kill. As for Ashdod abysia I see a pretty simple N9E4 scales build that will work for both
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>veno
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>>159679745
Which gives more money and and more magic gems...
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>>159679695
>>159679828
>It actually worked

Holy shit you fucking dotards are so dumb.
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>>159679581
the name is reference to Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver series
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So when Pink said he could recruit kthonian reanimators and trolls he wasnt lying.
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>>159679695

kelly is our girl!!
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Whats he thinking right now?
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>>159679942
Pelagia can further generate pearls from water gems...
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lol why are np taking this game so seriously? eg are treating it like a pug
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>yourocuck supports
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>>159680191
R'lyeh...
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This is /domg/ not /d2g/
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>>159680191
>>159680408
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>"""""""passive""""""" bots
>enemy Viper bot actively goes out of his way to constantly harass me with his venom shit

Uhhh, dotards?
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>>159680408
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>aui is a good carry
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>>159680619
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>>159680859
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lol why are eg taking this game so seriously? np are treating it like a pug
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>>159679786
>I don't know why you don't think nazca and asphodel won't work
It's not that I think they don't work. Both are good nations, and removing asphodel's popkill will help them a lot.

It's that I don't see an obvious synergy between them, so I'm not sure what they're planning to do for their pretender.

>both enjoy a double bless
That's news to me, I've never heard of Asphodel taking more than W9.

F9 and D9 seem to be more in favor for nazca, and neither is used on centaurs.

>As for Ashdod abysia I see a pretty simple N9E4 scales build that will work for both
That sounds reasonable for Ashdod, but I don't see Abysia getting much out of it.

I can't think of a better alternative, but if they were just going to take a bless for ashdod and scales, why pick Abysia?

Pythium, T'ien Ch'i, and C'tis were all available, stronger than Abysia (in my opinion), and get similar benefits out of a N9E4 bless.
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OwO what's this??
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>hinnom massing dawn guards
>not a single chariot

is this army supposed to be for fomoria? you'd better not be coming to monkey isalnd without your chariots
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>>159681437
pythium and T'ien Ch'i I agree, but c'tis nah but c'tis loses out on it's special dominino bonuses as a disciple and hurts their teammate if it's a pretender, As for F9D9 I say F9 is a shit bless on nazca from personal experience, they really do like W9. D9 only really works if they go for mass supuyas but if they do do mass supuyas that's just another arguement for dual bless which will turn BCs into early game monsters too
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>Clown9
Clown9
>Clown9
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Clown9
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>>159681540
Awe is better against chariots than the great-morale dawn guards
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>>159681772
its 13 morale and summod pillarmen have awe 2 plus blessing

at least a lucky cart can squash a few
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>>159681905
>at least a lucky cart can squash a few
They have to make a morale check to trample my dude. Awe is one of the better counters to most tramplers.
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>>159679487
The team with Sceleria would have been better off picking Ys than summod Ermor.

Not that Ys would be a good option, but any choice (sans Oceania) was better than Ermor. Maybe even Oceania.
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>>159682126
Oceania would still have been a better nation. It would have been a worse PICK, given that there's the R'lyeh/Pelagia team, but the nation itself would've been better
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>>159679441
Cheeky cunt
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>>159682020
okay if you insist then that's the plan

is this even hinnom?
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>>159682282
He didn't use the penis. That was my modification to prevent a crash =)
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>>159682359
I'm not, no. Hinnom posts under his own name. I'm just pointing out that chariots are actually very bad against your sacreds and that dawnguards are better as far as melee goes.
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>>159681641
So you're expecting D9W9 from Asphodel/Nazca?

>pythium and T'ien Ch'i I agree, but c'tis nah
Well, regardless, the point is that their choice would be suboptimal if they were just planning to take N9E4.

So either they messed up or I'm missing something.
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>>159682548
The fuck? No. D9 is a shit bless and neither of them need the high D casting.
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>>159682827
Especially given the fact that Supaya already have magic weapons.
I can definitely see a W9 being taken though.
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>>159682548
not D9, more for an argument that a double bless it not a nogo because of how good BCs are
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>>159682548
Given its Carlix I''m expecting a W9B9 desu.
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>>159683369
b9 supayayayaya are annoying af
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What site frequency is usually used in mp games?
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>>159684418
it depends
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>>159684418
default is default, but it's one of the settings that's more likely to be increased outside of 'meme' games

also FUCK THIS CAPTCHA TOOK ME 5 TRIES WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I DID IT RIGHT EVERY TIME
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Steel_Domg_Run starting soon?
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>>159686465
waiting on hotfix, sum1won fucked up bats again
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>>159686531
Actually, illwinter's terrain recruitment changes are responsible.
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>>159686531
he also gave supaya mr hard negates weapons by accident.
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>>159687432
Technically, I gave them mr negates weapons, and then a later change made that no longer work.
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I love ichtyids.
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Caelum is going for a throne victory right now.
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>>159690605
No shit.
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Why is LA man so shit
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>>159690605
Which victory is everyone else going for?
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>>159690605
yeah we are already working to prevent that, especially since he got meme'd hard by RoS. He's already started stuffing all his throne forts with massive amounts of chaff
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>>159692260
No, I mean he just birded a set of thrones not belonging to him this very turn.
>>159692078
I mean this turn.
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>>159692431
did he get china's throne?
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>>159692480
That's an indie throne. It looks like he's on his way there, so I guess there's one more turn left at least.
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>>159692594
patala actually took a throne off him, so we have a little more time
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>>159692020
They're just following the traditions of their ancestors
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>>159692020
Only one mage.
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Okay, so the ajaw thing is weird. It's in the mod
#addreccom 2675 but I can't recruit it in my test game
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>>159693901
I'm retarded. I was editing LA Xib and testing EA Xib. Kek. Should be fixed.
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>>159694442
>>159693901
Nope. Still doesn't work. I give up. I'll try again when I'm sober
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Etimmu spotting reported in 115.
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>>159696595
He was already in battle with Atlantis =)
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ded
ede
ded
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>>159697217
>>159696595
Whats so good about this guy?
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>>159699985
For Lemuria it isn't particularly important; it's like having a free Grand Lemur, except with lower paths and freespawn shadows
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>>159700125
He's got great prot and Attack too and starts with a Bane Blade. As far as heroes go he's pretty badass.
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>>159680142
That he may be THE sax man!
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>>159701626
Shoo, go back to your own thread.
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i've subbed into a mp game for my first ever mp game, they're 45 turns in and i barely know how to play.

im not sure i even played a single player game this many turns long, the ai just crumbles and i strut around climbing dem thrones.
the complexity is fukken through the roof
i think i fucked up guys.
i dont even know what wanky mod nation im playing, dragenheim or sumshit
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>>159703739
Nice damage control.
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>>159703910
i dont follow.
i literally said i fucked up guys.
this is the worst damage control ever if it was.
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Is there any nation that really benefits from an E9 bless?
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>>159704436
MA Agartha. Statues have no armor, but really high base prot which makes them nearly unbreakable with a flat boost.
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>>159704436
LA Agartha
>>159704549
No, statues want N9 to survive chip damage or B9 to reverse evo. E9 is strong only in conjugation with N9
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>>159704436
MA Ashdod wants E9N9. I've actually tested their potence vs knights and crossbows with N9E4 and N9E9 and the difference was frankly huge. It's the difference between 10 giants winning with 4 losses and 7 giants winning with 0 losses. It tips them over the line from being scratched down and eventually killed to being nigh unkillable.
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>>159705242
What does LA Agartha use the +5 prot for?
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>>159704436
LA Abysia went with an earth bless in degeneracy I think and they whupped Ulm's ass.
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>>159705742
That's because Ulm was a scrub.
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>>159705494
Well, E6-E8. They need a lot of reinvig for their sacreds.
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>>159705742
I thought they went N9E9 or N9W9?
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>>159707732
Probably N9E9, I forget honestly.
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>>159707656
A lot of nations want larger Ex blesses either for their heavy infantry sacreds or their sacred mages. That doesn't mean they want an E9.
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>>159708271

E9 stacks pretty nicely with heavy infantry though.
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>>159708443
Does it really? The prot buff is on the skin level, so it gets pretty severely reduced by 20+ armor level prot.
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>>159708443
It's generally not worth the cost. The real benefit of an E bless is the reinvig
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Major happening coming
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hotfix when
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>>159709465
I literally just got it to work. Now just need to wait for it to be added to the main patch.
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>>159709714
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>>159708532
You get more benefit from additional protection the higher your starting protection is, in a similar manner to how defense works.

Anecdotally, going from 21 to 23 on blindfighters seems a lot more impactful than going from 0 to 5 on kailasa's sacreds.

>>159708743
If you're going earth minor already for reinvigoration, going to E9 is the cheapest way to power up your sacreds. Going for a different major bless along with an earth minor costs a lot more than E9.
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>>159709980
I haven't tested LA Xib, and also failed to use git properly, but here's the mod that at least fixes EA xib -
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B51DS6LWagFTWm5vSjBJek9Gck0

Ajaws are recruitable again and Bacabs are recruitable in forests/caves again, albeit StR. You still get both the regular Bacabs and the StR ones in forest/cave forts.

Again, LA Xib changes are completely untested, so use with caution for LA games. EA works.
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>>159709235
Wait does that mean that you have the silver sarcophagus and are going to find it or that someone else is going to find it?
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>>159704436
LA Pythium

E9 boosts individual hydra head prot to a respectable 17. You already have regen so E9 is all you really need for staying power.
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>>159710449
What hydra are you looking at? The ones I see have 8 protection.
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>>159710538
Big hydra 1 head left. E9
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>>159704436
The increase in power to Niefel Giants from N9E4 to N9E9 is extremely noticeable, as it makes them virtually unkillable in cold 2-3 scale outside of shit like SoG vanhere - and even they have slight issues.

The big thing is that E8 makes the giants fatigue neutral, and at that point might as well grab the E9 for the extra added prot which usually means +3 protection - which really matters.

It also makes Niefel Jarls fatigue neutral out of the box.
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>>159710723
Oh, they get more protection in their last shape. Neat.
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You are based.
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>>159683015

Supaya have MR negates weapons. They're never gonna do any kind of appreciable damage to anything except indies unless you have F9.

D9's a less reliable damage increase, but I guess also helpful?
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>>159710286
so steel-domg-run is gunna use this?
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>>159712352
Speaking of that, I have to go for a seminar in a city that is really far from mine.
I will go out on Thursday morning and come back at next Monday's afternoon. I can either ask for a BIG extension, man up the stales, ask for a permanent sub, ask for a temporal sub, or ask the admin to drop me from the game before it start.

I dont mind delaying my other turns, but delaying a game on turn 2-3 would feel bad.
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>>159704436

LA C'tis can do pretty well with E9N9.

Most of your mages are sacred, and already have base prot 5, so moving that up to 10 massively reduces the chance of their dying to lucky arrows. Plus the extra reinvig means they can skelespam/banefire for days. Tomb Guards are also pretty respectable expanders when they aren't immediately fatiguing out.

Moves Tomb Wyrms from prot10 to prot15 as well, which is a fairly big deal, as if you're going bigbless C'tis, you're gonna be using those as tarpits.
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>>159712617
>not having a laptop for away trips
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>>159712784
I had one but it died ;_;
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>>159712684
What are Tomb Wyrms?
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>>159713129

LA C'tis special reanimatable sacred. Ded sneks.

Really good at miring giant numbers of enemy troops while your Sauromancers throw Banefire at them.
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>>159713271
Wonder why I couldn't find those in the inspector?
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>>159712684
Isn't B9N9 way better for tomb wyrms?
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>>159713321

B9N9's better for Tomb Wyrms, yeah, but E9N9's better for every other sacred you get.
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Is it better for a priest to spam smite or sermon of courage assuming your guys have average morale?
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>>159713319
The inspector doesn't generally show national freespawn or reanimatates.
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fuck me, someone help a nigga out
whats the ritual called, it's either d2 or d3, and it makes 10 enemy units become undead or sumshit within 6 provinces? i saw it yesterday and now i cant find it in the inspector.
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>>159713881
Awaken hunger or something? Pretty sure it just makes random civilians into ghouls rather than soldiers.
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>>159714042
oh that's it, thanks.

and fuck.
what happens then? just 9 ghouls run into pd?
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>>159714159

It's 9+++, so it scales reasonably nicely.

Still not particularly great though.
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>>159714159
I guess? I never used it myself. You could use it in your own province as well if you want.
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>>159714279
In which case the units just appear there under your control.

You can also cast it multiple times targeting an enemy province in one turn, in which case they all attack as one. (They come to exist there in the magic phase as the spells are cast, and then in the magic battle phase the game notices there's conflicting forces there and makes them fight.)
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>>159716479

Honestly this is the only situation in which it's likely to beat PD. And even then it's iffy. Ghouls aren't good. There are better uses for Death gems.
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>>159717408
Weak raiding and heavy raiding complement one another. Your opponent doesn't know which is hitting where and when. If he buys decent PD he risks a waste of gold when a heavy raider sweeps it. If he just buys one point, he's susceptible to lose to a light raider.

Basically the effect is mostly psychological. You pop hunger or such two or three times and your opponent will start spending extra gold on PD when that gold would have been put to better use elsewhere.
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>>159713881
Arouse Hunger? It's the ghoul remote attack spell.
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>>159720807
Nice.
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after hotfix is realised I wanna know if anyone else would potentially join Domg Steel Run, reason for mention is >>159712617 having to drop out for being a collage normie
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>>159712617
Definitely I think I'm leaving the game. Sorry for the issues of waiting until now, but since I'm leaving for 4 days I think it would be better this way, so I dont hav to ask for a 4 days extension in a game that was supposed to have a fast pace.

Bye and sorry.
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so once again here we are at 13/14, assuming the new player doesn't pick bats we can start as soon as somebody else joins

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Steel_Domg_Run
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>>159721468

I joined as TC.
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>>159721754
Welcome to the True man's world
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>>159721878
Based.
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I'm glad some people tried
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>>159722846
shout outs to caelum btw, You are right it would fit into the jojo world
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memes
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>>159723802
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>>159705242
N9 is the obvious choice. I'm not sure I see the utility of B9 though. Yeah, it thwarts evo, but most evo isn't going to have a huge effect on your statues anyway, between high HP, high protection, and being statues. There's stuff like Soul Slay and (worse) Gifts From Heaven to worry about, but those are rare enough that I think you're better off trying to deal with them by using numbers to kill the casters before they kill too many of your guys.

Also E9 is useful when you hit Ench8 since it'll give you 16 extra sentinels from hall of the guardians, before boosters, and you'd otherwise be casting it at minimum power with a lucky cap-only mage and earth boots, and the only other boosters available would require a pretender designed to forge them anyway.
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MODS = GODS
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>>159678641
>>159678481

What do you predict from the viking alliance?
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>>159722846
Tell me which name is not a meme name so I can attack him.
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>>159733197
If you dont get them, its probably you.
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>>159681437
I'd consider Abysia as way stronger than TC, and around or a bit better than Pythium/Ctis - especially on a disciple, which removes a lot of the opportunity cost from soul contract spam.

Don't underestimate the nation with the best recruitable blood mage in the game.
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anybody have a place to download desert worms
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>>159733620
http://users.on.net/~dfidge/dom3/dom4maps/desertworms.zip
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>>159733620
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>>159733384
>best
>not onaquis
>not brides in waiting
>muh horrors
K E K
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>>159733731
>>159733708
doesnt work for me thats why i'm asking
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>>159731082
How do you think that most nations deal with statues? If you have to kill the statues instead of eliminating the commanders, the ways that you do it are elementals, thugs, and evo. Ulm, TC, Ys, Caelum, Rus, Ermor, Machaka all want to use evo to kill them. B9 forces them to either find a different tool or suffer potentially expensive losses to get rid of them. (Side note since you mentioned it - soul slay is a good answer for a raiding party of statues led by a mage, but it's good because it ignores the statues. Soul slay doesn't affect mindless things)

It also gives bloodstone access, which is nice.
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>>159733881
what do you mean it doesn't work? did you put the map in the right spot? is your computer refusing to download it?
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>>159733979
>>159733979
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>>159734140
guess your IPS hates you, here I reuploaded it
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B73GKKaaHk0kc1BxdlpQRVg1TUU/view?usp=sharing
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>>159733881
>>159734140
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>>159734298
thank you very much, sorry
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>>159734313
>Calle MANN
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>>159733860
I'd argue warlocks are better than brides in waiting, if only because unlike the brides they aren't slow to recruit.

I forgot about Onaqui though. It appears the mental block I put in place involving the utter bullshit that is EA Xibalba is working pretty well. Though Onaqui wouldn't be better if they didn't FREESPAWN FLYING SACRED DEMONS.
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>>159734497
>muh horror fetish
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>>159734639
Its more I just like having twice as many good cap only mages as the other guy.

If warlocks were StR, and brides in waiting weren't, I'd be arguing the reverse.
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>When you play your last great gambit against a player much better than you
>But you need to wait 72+ hours to see if it worked or not
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>>159736168
Who plays with 72+ hour turns?
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>>159736391
Lukas
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>>159736168
Well, it obviously isn't the natgen, or you would have said with 260+ hours.
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>>159736391
>>159736496
based
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>>159736496
>>159736391
>>159736541
you're welcome
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>>159736168
Which game?
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dedder than t. Pan after one minor setback
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>>159722935
Damn straight.
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>>159717408
They help soak up mind blasts since they arent mindless.
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>>159734298
also this
i gotta go to work, ill sort it in a bit, i cant figure out why it's not working though, i redownloaded summod already
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>>159739491
Try deleting the .dm and the sum1mod folder then redownloading
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>>159736610
I literally can't say
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>>159733312
I can't possible recognize all the memes.

And I'll have you know that my meme is top quality.
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Demonax looks like a default name
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>>159740021
>plays the cancer nation
>doesn't choose the meme name

why do pop kill nations hate fun so much?
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This message will be displayed for everyone, so I might as well post it here.
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>>159740758
>Vanheim gets a free SC
>The usual answer to the Djinn can't be employed because it's too early in the game by far
Sure hope all his neighbors are ready for consent classes.
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>>159740758
nice arena mod
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>>159740943
He's a mediocre SC because he has no body slot and only prot 3. He's mostly an army buff caster and crafter/path enabler.
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>>159741080
He has built in ethereal and can cast a plethora of buffs. Early game armies won't touch him.

Sidenote, he also flies underwater.
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>>159741243
3 Caelum fags can kill him turn 1. Ethereal without high prot is almost useless (t. ghost player), and you literally can't increase his body prot besides casting stoneskin.
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>>159741440
or ironskin
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>>159741440
Can he not wear an ironface?
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>>159741630
It doesn't stack with skin spells, and it's still only 18 prot.
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>>159741440
uhh Ironskin? Temper Flesh? Phoenix Pyre?

25 shock/fire res and eth means that he shouldn't die to elemental spam
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>>159741839
It's literally turn 13, my dude. And if you use an EXTREMELY FUCKING USEFUL crafter/summoner as SC when you research all the shit you listed instead of pumping out golems, I don't know what's wrong with you.
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>>159742002
I'm sorry, you're right. The fact that Vanheim got a free supercaster is more of a concern than the fact that Vanheim can wipe out any army of his non-caelian neighbors.

THE POINT IS friendships must be forged to remove elf.
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I'm ready for round 3 Abysia, if you are.
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>>159742305
That looks like an even trade to me
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>>159742434
10 cap only sacreds tho.
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>>159742434
Well just the burning ones alone make up for the 2 vanjarls.

And as mentioned this was round 2 of me repelling his forces while being cornered so it's still a small victory for me. I didn't say anything after the first round because I only banter when I'm losing but something else happened this turn unrelated to him that cut me off from any chance of winning this in the future, even if I do fight him off.
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>>159741710
Ironskin on its own is 20. So your 18 is way off.
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>>159723802
oh my god what happened here?
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>>159743228
Can you use Ironskin to buff a bunch of soldiers or would you get more out of just spamming earth meld?
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>>159743228
I can literally post a screen of that djinn with iron face from one of my games.

TL;DR: he dieded like a bitch.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

Big LA meme game still with plenty of spots open.
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>>159743679
are not all /domg/ games meme games?
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>>159743679
What is meme about it?
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For Steel Domg we use 0.73 summod right?
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>>159744228
Nah. It's hosted on old .72 summod because Xibalba bailed.
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>>159744228
And ignore the name you didn't see anything, just standard elven deception.
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Jotunheim just staled. He is close to staling in another game. What do we do?
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>>159744531
ask him on steam
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>>159744228
>>159744319
>>159744360
was using old sum1mod since bat bailed. See no reason to restart unless enough people ask too
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>>159744091
Meme thrones.
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>>159744893
I hope everyone prepared their turmoil 3 growth 3 luck 3 builds. You'll thank me later.
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>>159744531
Goddammit I extended by 9h too.
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>>159745013
>implying that wasn't already my plan before the meme thrones
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>>159722846
Made this for fun and autism. Let's vote who has the best title and who needs removal ASAP
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>>159745751
Alladin Sane
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>>159745751
Hinnom and I think Sauromatia do not have proper names and must be exterminated.
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>>159709235
>opening the sarcophagus
LaCroix, you dumb fuck.
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>>159745751
titles show theodros did W4N4E4 minimal, who wants to bet he took double bless or even triple bless?
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>>159745751
Clearly Arco's Sukeri Monsutazu is a pale imitation of my own Scary Monsters and needs to be removed immediately.
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VARN's gone and conflicts are breaking out all over.

Someone post graphs!
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>>159746293
W9N9E4 is pretty good. E4 isn't really worth the scales hit imo but eh. It's helpful
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What's the cheapest way to counter golems?
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>>159746492
go ai
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>>159746581
This.
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>>159743679
Delete my Bogarus pretender plz I want to switch
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>>159746910
Chainstaling is cheaper
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>>159747464

You had best not be rusing me into deleting someone else's Bogarus.
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>>159746492

Banes with Smashers, probably? Three or four ought to do the job fairly reliably.
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>>159748021
Anything with smashers will help. If you have magic phase move then just give your dudes boots of flying and tp on top of it with "attack large monsters" order.
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>>159746492
Another golem
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>>159748021
What if I don't have E2 access right now?
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>>159748570

Iunno man. Eyecatchers?
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>>159748884
Dusk daggers might help too, granted you have high strength dudes.
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>>159748884
That's so dumb it might just not work!
Maybe I'll just skellespam them until afflictions take them.
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>>159748982
brb putting trample boots on my golem
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>Three mages
>Two can cloud trapeze and the third can teleport
If they all target the same enemy province with their magical movement rituals, what happens? Will there be three battles? Two battles? One battle?
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>>159750237
One battle
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>>159746264
He always was a cunt.
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>>159750574
>he
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159750315
I should have realized that it resolves all the magical movements at once.

If I want to force as many battles as possible in a province, what would I need to do?
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>>159751937
have other nations magic phase as well, as long as your sure the one you want to drain the resources will beat each battle he'll end up fighting each nation taht jumps him in the magic phase
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>>159751937
First - magic phase assasinations as many as possible.
Second - magic phase attack (all troops under your flag will attack now).
Third - magic phase attack under the neutral flag (horrors and phantasms, maybe some others I don't remember).
Forth - phisical assasinations using your own assasins and seducers. Also lure of sirens works there.
Fifth - fight after the movement phase, main battle.
Sixth - battle for the fort if enemy going to storm (magic phase attack with the forces under the your flag won't work if the province had your fort)
Seventh - assasinations made by horrors who attracted by the Horror Marks of the enemy comanders.
Eights - random event attacks, can not be envoked via spells, but some rituals may heighten PROBABILITY of those happen.

That's all I can remember. Also some Globals invoke assasinations too, they are coming usually between 6 and 7 stages.
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>>159753208
What about vengeful water assassinations?
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>>159753208
what if a mage cloud trapezes into a province but then casts returning and there's a siege going on the capital
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>>159753397
those are magic assassinations, I think.
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>>159743346
Then please do so, Ironskin is 20 prot, so I literally do not see how you could possibly be below that.

I can understand that he'd still die like a bitch to anything with magic weapons though.
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>>159753397
Between 6 and 7.

>>159753419
I don't know preciesly since I have never witnessed that. But once I seen that an immortal Master Lich was fighting in both 5 and 6 stages even after being slain in the 5 stage (so I guess he revived immediately?). So I can just guess that such a mage could really participate in the 2 and 6 stages too.
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>>159741440
Wait which burds can kill him that quickly? I'm missing something here.
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>>159754025
Any bird with a magic weapon will only have to deal with 3 protection, and they have x2 lance damage bonus on the first attack, so instakill.
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need a 24h extension. thanks
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>>159755025
OY VEY
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>never any turns when you want them
>when I get up in the morning I'll have 5 turns to do and no time to do them
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>>159754157
The Lance charge only has +6 damage, not double.
Learn the mechanics.
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>>159756637

Charge bonus was, what? 1/2 size or 1/4th AP, whichever is larger?
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>>159758252
1/3 AP for nonfliers
1/3 AP or double size for fliers, whichever is bigger. I don't know if Storm removes their ability to have their lance charge bonus based off size though.
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>>159758537
Not if they're storm immune
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>>159758537
It does not. They're still considered fliers, they just don't get the movement special. They're immune to EQ and have charge bonus
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>>159759387
Why is Trump Jomon
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>>159759387
>Human
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>>159759780
he'll make anime Real
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>>159759780
pic related

>>159759387
post titles
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>>159760575
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>>159760873
>lord of dirt
Sounds about right
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>>159760873
There are way better titles for both. You used a male chassis for Hillary. 1/10, remake.
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>>159761254
Id give trump a low dom with earth magic, hillary high dom blood magic
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>>159760873

>not using crone for Hillary
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>>159760873
Did the results come out yet? I'm not from burgerland and wouldn't know.
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>>159761828
Follow them as they come out
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president
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>>159761891
I dont care enough to do that. I'll just wait an hour and ask again.
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>>159762058
More like 7 hours
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So, apparently there are some stallers.

Would anyone like to sub into Abysia, Berytos, or Pelagia.

No diplo. No crazy alliances. Just all the other nations, me, and the end of the world as they know it.

If you want practice against fighting a huge lategame run-away nation, this is your chance.
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>>159762787
I really should never make friends in games. Every single time they go AI or stale.
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>>159762787
No thanks. If I were in your game, I'd vote to end it.
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Let's do this.
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Sorry, Americans, looks like you're stuck with the other one.
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>>159763071
What happens if you wish for victory anyway?
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>>159763202
Agreed.
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>>159763027
>wants to vote to end it
>too cowardly to actually try.

Sorry, insofar as I'm concerned, atm my vote counts for more than everyone else's combined.

damnit domg, hit me, fight me . . . give me a hug.
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>>159761828
Thrones won't start getting claimed until 8 or so. Scrying suggests abysia has a better chance of taking Florida, NC, and Nevada than projected, with Yomi possibly getting a throne in Pennsylvania
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>>159764745
>give me a hug
Are you cute?
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>>159764853
How cute do you find squids to be?
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>>159764853
Bitch I'm adorable.
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>>159765863
Not really. But I find the name "Nick" really cute.
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>>159762787
I actually forgot that I was still in that.

Did you nuke the map yet? I'm bound to have a few hundred pearls by now so I could help you speed it up.
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>>159765925
You sure it's a real name? It might be a nick.
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>>159767121
I hope you experience car loss.
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>>159767208
It doesn't look as if it's going to happen.
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Hey lads, what do you think about an oceanian supershark unit that has a slow land shape and a UW shape with flying/storm immunity so that it 'flies' UW?
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>>159732584
W9Ex or N9Ex. They're going to want good scales to produce their excellent troops, and both blesses are cheap and good for vanheim.

>>159733384
>best recruitable blood mage in the game
It's a cap-only mage, and it's expensive. Best recruitable blood mage would be something cheap and B1.

Soul contracts are a nice strategy, but what do you do with the rest of your empire? In a game this large you can't just use your cap-only troops and mages.
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>>159767475
Go to sleep Sy.
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>>159767547
What? It's 4:30 in the afternoon.
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>>159767492
considering abysia is one of the few "blood nations" in MA they fair better then the other nations without painting a huge target on their back like the johuntheim/mictlan alliance
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>>159767651
Well Ways are technically better.
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>>159764745
I'm fighting to the bitter end

Unfortunately my primary ally has apparently started staling, on the same turn I sent him a bunch of stuff he requested. Fukken A'
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>>159767492
I meant in terms of raw pathing, obviously cheap bloodhunters are amazing, but I was more referring to use of a high path mage.

And spamming horrors is pretty damn potent.
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>>159768643
I'd like to find you friends to help fight me, to make this more fair, but domg doesn't seem to want to deal with late game.

Don't worry about the 300%, I'll be correcting that back down to normal levels.
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>>159769390
I always felt like I was terrible when it comes to strategy but a reasonably good tactician, so I hope I can at least provide some entertaining battle reports before the end.

The game is essentially over save for some big endgame battles, so that's as much as I can ask for.
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What do you normally use ice devils for? Thugs?
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>>159767651
There was Xibalba left. Non-cap blood mages, and lots of sacred units and mages to benefit from an Ashdod bless.

Weaker earlygame, but you already have Ashdod.

>>159768943
>I meant in terms of raw pathing, obviously cheap bloodhunters are amazing, but I was more referring to use of a high path mage.
Ah. Well, that's a lot less important for blood than other paths.

The first reason is that empowering blood is cheap, second reason is that blood has 3 boosters, all using different slots, and all available without crosspaths. It's very easy to turn a weak blood mage into a strong blood mage.

>And spamming horrors is pretty damn potent.
It is, but that's still using your cap-only mages. Basically the entire gameplan you've laid out for Abysia is focused on their cap-only blood.

That works fine for blitzes and small games, but I don't think it'll work in a game this large.
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>>159770624
covering up loose ends in paths
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>>159770739
Disciple games, for some nations, function more like blitzes than you'd expect.

In this case Abysia's inability to recruit useful mages outside their capital is partially mitigated by their ability to flood Ashdod with the leftover dosh.
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Pretty big army you got there white. You wouldn't be planing anything nasty with that right?
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>>159770624
Bifrons can break you into astral and Bune into Death. Cimejes summons frost devils.

However, since water is generally speaking a non-ideal combat and ritual magic path (there of course are exceptions, it depends), I think most of the frost devils are best used as thugs. Thanks to ice protection, in C3 dominion, they tend to be very durable with very little kit (and since they already have protection covered by default, you could, for example, use Shroud of Battle Saint if you have a good thug bless). Water isn't a good way to make an SC (Bifrons and Bune can do better because they have access to stuff like body ethereal+resist magic and soul vortex+skeletal body respectively) but since they are the cheapest of summonable devils and do well with little kit (assuming cold dominion), they are very cost-effective and should they die, you can just resummon them cheaply.
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FORNOOBS report: Pangaea holding the line against caelum which is getting eaten by AI Tien Chi while Ur and Elves do something ?
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>>159777131
Caelum just landed 200 birds in Pastenna (33), so be careful.
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Asking for a 24 hour delay, please, thank you.
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Innovative Lemurian Thread.
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>>159777131
elves here

im closer than you think
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>>159739564
kk im on it, trying again.
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>>159781636
>>159739564
worked fine thanks.

fuck this map is awesome.
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Wotcher doin Robbledoth
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Yomi wins
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>>159784297
Doesn't everyone win with a fun game of dominions 4?
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>>159784423
>fun game of dominions 4
A contradiction of terms.
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>>159785101
Dominions 4 is fun!
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If Trump wins malakal will be rushed before the end of year 2 in the next 10 games he plays
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>>159786630
If this is what it takes to gangbang Malakal then I accept.
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>>159786630
That won't stop him from winning, fuckboi.
t. not Malakal
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>nicknight7: I'd like to find subs, especially for Berytos/Abysia
>nicknight7: double especially against Berytos, the one nation who could potentially cause real kinks
Help us, Lukas Subwalker! You're our only hope!

MABA
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>>159788815
if nick extends AT by 12 hours I'll sub berytos, I'm suffering from election fatigue here
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>>159788919
I already asked him to extend by 24 so I could go sleep comfy.
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>>159788919
Karen's pretty great.
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Postponing for 24h to find a sub for Jotun.
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>>159788995
Assuming that by "great", you mean "trash", yeah.
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>>159789435
She's hella brexy
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>>159788919
Granted, now GET IN HERE AND DIE!!!! (i need an email address).
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>>159789931
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>>159789538
She's part British so no.
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>>159791537
And people say Yomi is a shit nation.
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>>159790172
She's from Japan I think,.
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>>159791537
for realsies?
sorry america.
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>>159791537
Yomi beat Abysia with innovative SC strats.
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Good god, he actually won.
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I've a couch going, if some of you feel the need to flee your country before it goes bankrupt.
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>>159791939
At least there won't be any more blood hunting for the next four years
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Hey guys, I was casting Summon Demon Lord in the hopes of getting a Lady of Corruption and got a Monster of Fraud instead. What should I use it for? It seems like a waste of blood slaves compared to the other options.
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>>159793542
To add to this, I don't need the crosspaths, and since he can't wear boosters, he isn't actually any better of a blood mage than the empowered vamp that summoned him. I think that I might use him as an ungeared raider.
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Does Wrath of God target military units, or does it target population?
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>>159793626
Only military units.
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>>159793559
Monster of Fraud is very capable of doing that naked, yes (soul vortex and such like). Although extremely durable battle caster shouldn't be underestimated either.
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>>159793559
Monster of Fraud is very capable of doing that naked, yes (soul vortex and such like). Although it's not like there's such a thing as too much or too durable mage support.
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>>159793734
Monster of Fraud is really great at supporting fire resistant nations. Just cast firestorm and let him cast mass regen, and throw him into the fray.
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What's with all those connection errors? Meme magic is interfering?
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>>159793742
What do I even want to cast with him? I already have D/N/B for battlefield stuff with my armies, and the only good scaling B spell I can think of is agony I guess which seems really unimpressive as a late game casting thing.
>>159793748
I don't have native fire res units, and while army of gold makes my guys immune to it, it doesn't seem like this dude does anything special inside of it aside from ignore the damage without the buff
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>>159793759

Not just me then? Posting seems kinda dodgy.
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>>159793893
me too bro
but my internet is tanking too for some reason, so i figured it might be unrelated.

internet's back, but postings still spotty.

maybe /pol/s blowing up

attempt number 4, super spotty i guess.
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>>159791939
I think you meant to say congratulations
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CALLING ARTEA

You must have gotten the email about the trade, but you still haven't sent the stuff you agreed to, please give signs of life either here or in the Steam thread.
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someone pronounce c'tis for me.
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>>159794721
Sea-teas
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>>159794721
See-tis
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>>159794721
sittis
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>>159794721
kuh-TISS
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>>159795360
this
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

Yesterday a triumph and/or disaster. Either way, you should join a game to celebrate and/or commiserate.
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What are the optimal units for ME Ulm infantry?

Are Ulm crossbowmen (arbalests) worth it?

Other ME Ulm tricks?

Fuck magic, acquire blacksteel.
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>>159782442
Gonna go kick Itza's arse.
>>159798107
Pikemen are great, Arbalests are not. Use flails against shields/undead, but generally the pike's your go-to. Iron Blizzard is a godsend.
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>>159798107
Which Ulm? LA or MA? I assume from saying arbalests you mean MA.

If so, expansion should be with pikeneers (non-black plate) for minimal losses as you go. Ulm has issues with their xbows because arbalests only fire every three turns whilst sappers with normal xbows are hideously expensive.
And yes, Iron Blizzard is basically your go-to 'fuck shit up' spell and conveniently you get magma eruption, your second go-to for master smiths, at about the same level.
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>>159798107
Flails are good for scaling with buffs, Battleaxes are good against units with high hp, Pikes are good against non-elite humans.

Use Mauls instead of Battleaxes against tough targets which resist slashing (so statues, basically), and use Shield+Hammer in the extremely unlikely event your infantry is taking too much damage from physical attacks.
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how much damage does crumble do to people in the fort?
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>>159798707
Basically nothing.

The caster does 250 points of siege damage to an enemy fortress, plus
25 points for each additional skill level of Earth magic the mage possesses
beyond 5. Each defender has a 50% chance of being hit by debris (3 AP,
defense roll negates).
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>tfw you hoped for a quick landgrab but it turns out you'll have to actually commit to the war
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>>159798853
Well, that's actually a decent bit of damage against black hawks and some other units you might use in siege defence (assuming that's 3AP+DRN such that it has a chance of killing them).
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>>159799179
Chance of hitting a unit is 50%, chance of killing a 5hp unit with 3 damage is 30%.

I'll assume none of the attacks miss due to the defense check because I'm not certain how it works.

Crumble will kill 15% of black hawks (basically the shittiest unit imaginable), even with this optimistic assumption.

Multiple casts would do more, but you're spending mage-turns on E5 mages and 20 gems per cast.

Just build gate cleavers. They have a better effect for the gems spent (unless your enemy has stacked over 400 hawks in a single province) and they're reusable.
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>>159799417
Here's a question, will any damage to units carry over into a fort storming or breakout attempt in the same turn?
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>>159799531
It should carry over, yes.
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>>159795360
Thank you for your sanity.
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>>159799417

I guess that's maybe potentially useful if Foul Air is up?
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>>159798954
>everyone ganking on a poor guy
>decide might as well grab two provinces myself, especially since they're in a good position for me
>all of sudden gets upset and focuses all his remaining units on raiding and hindering me
>everyone else just takes him apart at their leisure without interfering
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Jesus fucking christ
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>>159802120
1 of these things would make it a useful unit for 160g on a recruit anywhere H2

1d6 is insane, like what the fuck
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>>159802120
>>159802345
Why has he not been gangbanged out of the game yet?
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>>159800536
Or hit the fort with leprosy
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>>159802650
Well, I personally have no idea where he is.
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sent my turn. sorry bros, a sudden emergency and I couldn't use my pc.
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>S3
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>>159803191
It's cool. Best of luck with whatever is happening.
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would twist fate or luck be a good way of having a mage blob survive an earthquake or RoS?
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>>159806254
Twist fate would help, luck not really. Basically, you can have a single high S mage cast twist fate every turn to negate ONE attack every turn. Thing is, the opponent can use RoS 5 times in a row and you'll still die.
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>>159806385
but does twist fate prevent the damage from eq/RoS every time as long as you cast it again?
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Luck may help in 75% of cases, just like spell description states.
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>>159806254
it stops the first hit, and RoS/Earthquake is usually spammed. Even if you counter spam Twist fate, it's still not going to work if he's the defender
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>>159806439
Yes. TF is a unit buff that negates exactly one successful attack, and it doesn't stack with itself. The spell basically gives every friendly unit that quality. But it won't save you from multiple attacks like 2 RoSes or EQs in a single turn.
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>>159806254

Twist Fate will stop the first. Luck will stop 75% of all fatal hits.

Of the two Luck is much, much better at keeping dudes alive.
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Do your turn Ulm come on.
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Potential idea - give Oceania a unit that can 'pillage' UW provinces for blood slaves

Pro - bloodhunting UW means they can get some slave income without holding land provinces

Con - needing land to bloodhunt forces them to interact with land nations
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i've got something really special planned for our next battle weab
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>>159808782
It doesn't matter since the majority of blood spells aren't castable underwater anyway
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>>159808901
They're getting demon sharks
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>>159808782
No. Interaction is more important.
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>>159808920
Are they amphibious?
Do they go GASHUNK?
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>>159809057
Yes
Maybe
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>>159809108
>amphibious demon sharks
This pleases me a great deal.
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>>159809168
I'll forewarn you that their current sprite looks hella derpy and that might remain true.
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Any games still looking for players?
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>>159809765
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty
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>>159809808
Any MA/EA games?
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>>159810065
Not unless you make one.
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Can you heal a lost arm?
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>>159811010
Yes. The world is magical.
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>>159811229
n/m, the chalice just wasn't targeting the right person, even though he was the only one with an affliction
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Bump for Trump.
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>>159812584
>tfw voted Trump and he won

Is this what winning a game feels like?
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>>159812752

Nah its more like you winning against another player, but have been permanently set back in the process, leaving the other players in your game able to finish you off later.
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Is llama kill?
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>>159814449
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
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>>159812752
It's exactly like that except you won against, well, a good part of the world. Includes authentic butthurt like >>159813047
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Someone (or sum1) sub for Jotun please.
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>>159815067
is his shit fucked up?
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>>159815135
Nope, everyone is just now finishing up expansion and I don't believe there are any wars.
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after rubbadub finishes we should start another game with the same players
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>>159815393
>started 11 days ago
>turn 39 already
You guys are madmen.
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>>159812752
>>159814862
I bet you think he's not a thin-scinned narcissist either :^)
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>>159816175
>>159812752
>>159814862
Hey guys, can y'all go to /pol/, whether you're butthurt about the election or not?
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>>159815778
or dumbfucks that just flail around randomly

>>159815393
yes. MA please.
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>>159816623
>everyone picks the MA version of their nation

it seems like this game would last until MA anyways given the deadlocks
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it is year 3 without stales, ais, or defeated players now

idk how fomoria is doing though i think getting 2v1'd by machaka and hinnom might've done him in
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>>159816708
>everyone picks the MA version of their nation

god no. I have even less idea what to do with Shinu that I have with Yomi.
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>>159817168
build samurai
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White, do a double, please.
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>>159818803
white has been infected with whatever pink had after eating him
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>>159817332
that's... not much.
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>>159818803
>>159818912
I would've done a double if it weren't for this fucking election. Leave me to stew in my existential terror for tonight, please.
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>>159819442
its cool. i havent done jack shit this whole game. everybody else is fighting like crazy and im just jacking off and moving my 5000 meneads around
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>>159819514
If you've got 5000 maenads, you really don't need to be jacking off.
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>>159819569
i didnt find a quesodot province unfortunately

wouldve settled for heart companions
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What's the deal with Hama dryads? Are they supposed to be useless and have "steal strength" attack because of the "weaker sex" meme or something?
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>>159819658
>The Qedesot are female Avvite temple servants. They are chosen for appearance rather than intellect. Although ordained as priests, their main function is another. Rephaim are allowed to use and be blessed by the Qedesot for a small fee.

>Preferring literal whores over women that have torn their clothes off out of avid desire
What is actually wrong with you?
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>>159819762
oh i meant quesadim

because i want to fuck them in the ass
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Need a sub. EA machaka, 8 player game, turn 8, one stale. 6 provinces, s4a4 bless. Any interest?
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>>159821884
>S4A4
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>>159821978
Probably a rainbow or diversity titan.
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>>159821884
>>159821978
Well, they apparently went AI anyways, so....
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>>159821978
It's innovative.
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>>159823008

Uh. Oops?

I think that's probably my fault. Had an expansion party collision in his cap circle.
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>>159823887
Isn't this the winners only game?

Sad!
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>>159824037

I left it undefended and PD free for him and everything. Should have just rolled on his cap instead. What a faggot.
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>>159823887
>>159824241
He was staling out in other games too, so I doubt it was just you.
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>>159819732
They're ethereal, have awe, and ignore armour. Summon some of them on a fort you'd rather like to keep, and they'll be quite useful.
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>>159826496
How about just summoning wolves, huh?
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>>159826579
Because I would rather have 10 ethereal, awed, regenerating, armour-negating units, than 40 chaff units.
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>>159826496
>>159826842
MRN tho
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>>159826842
What a scrub.
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>>159826943
>>159827015
I just feel like they'd be a superior tarpit in comparison. It's just my personal preference.

Besides: In a siege situation, Wolves will eat through your supplies much faster.
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In other news, Abysia has been sieged by a group of barbarians.
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>>159827632
What else happened last turn?
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>>159828264
Much of the usual, nothing else as odd as that.
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>>159828436
I'm not in your game, I'm just curious
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>>159827632
Are these barbs purchased by the innovative Lemurian?
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>>159828594
They're purchased by events.
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>>159828713
He's managed to innovate the events too?!?!
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>>159828594
No they are indies, Abysia seems quite safe from innovation for the moment with Atlantis and Agartha acting as a buffer between them.
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The white man is trying to push me down with his armies of sluts.
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>>159828904
I'm jealous
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>>159821884
sorry. I had some real deal RL heavy shit and no access to internet at all since yesterday. just came back home.
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>>159828759
Microtransactions
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riley the reason you're taking so long better be because you've prepared a fullscale squid invasion on the mainland
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>>159828904
Post reports.
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>>159830801
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>>159831418
Pffft, only like 160.
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>>159831418
Whoops, meant to put this one in the second image.
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>>159830638
It Has Already Begun
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>>159831584
you better hold on to that 3 point throne like your life depends on it
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>>159831624
Oh wait, different Riley. Sorry.
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>>159830638
Are you referring to me?

If so, as usual, I delayed at the behest Lukas
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>>159832614
No, it's yet another different riley
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rubbadub riley was apparently given a free pass to land by machaka after getting kicked out of numerous other countries
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Game: Steel_Domg_Run
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 13:26 GMT on Thursday November 10th

Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
Ulm >Waiting for 2h file
Ur 2h file received

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159832814
That Ulm meme.
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Did scales lemuria work? I'm really curious about it.
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>>159833691
He appears to have been memeing at least somewhat. I only encountered crossbowmen a couple turns ago. It was a decent number of them I guess.
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I have redeemed the army of jews. This is what happens when you don't take B9 as Ermor
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>>159833842
mage support etc.
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>>159833842
Absolutely idiotic conclusion.

That's what happens if you just go all chaff without mage support against mass banishment and shit.
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I am rapidly reaching a point in a game where I can cast battlefield spells regularly for once. So my question is how do you do it without killing your own guys? EA Atlantis by the way.
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>>159833919
>>159833971
you guys seem to think ermor will ever have mage support in Sum1mod sitautions
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>>159834023
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thanks for dropping by hinnom, you're always a riot
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>>159834023
I used to think Ermor won't survive until turn 51 in Sum1mod situations. I stand corrected.
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>>159834130
where you gangbanged most of the game? this ermor ahs been under constant pressure since turn 16 basically
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>>159834530
I had 6v1, yeah. You severely underestimate summod Ermor. And I ran a rainbow build too.
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>>159834596
pretty good, I still feel that B9 is an amazing option for ermor though as it shuts down so many anti-ermor strats. At the very least I wouldn't have won my battle so handily if it existed
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>>159834179
>>159834023
The reason they have no mage support is they've been dumping everything into Archbishops for 51 turns.
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Rubbadub fomoria i see you submitted your turn already.

How you hanging in there, bud? Don't stop fighting until the game takes control from you.
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gonna fucking murder ulm if he is anywhere near me for taking for fucking ever

ps im gonna kill everybody diplomacy is for weaklings
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>>159834015

What,your chaff? You don't. It is the fate of the soldier to die to massive amounts of battlemagic.

Unless you mean stuff like Firestorm, or other battlefield spells, you ideally want to counter it in some way, or make sure you can ensure higher casualties for the enemy(you have a high prot army, he sends a swarm of low prot at you, ideal for casting earthquake)
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Wew, Hinnom's actual thug kicked the shit out of my "summon a dude to hold all these free items" thug in an accidental collision.

>>159830638
The reason I took so long is because I'm American and a wageslave. Gomen ne.
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>>159837482
On the one hand I have about three provinces including my cap. On the othe hand I have a big doom stack of T-striking mages. Could certainly be better but at least if someone tries to finish me off I can bloody their nose for them.
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Oh god, /domg/. All those things about Clinton's blood sacrifices. All those disgusting fucking things.
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>>159837580
No I mean how do I cast shit like earthquake without killing the guy who casts it. Will he just tank it because he is a big Atlantian?
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>>159837737
How well does thunderstrike work against antimagic? Asking for a friend who is definitely not your neighbor.
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>>159837835
regen if he's a Big Guy

or floating boots or similar spell. i think twist fate weorks too
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>>159837835

Yes. He has a lot of hp and will survive a few earthquakes.Give him an armor as well makes him even more likely to get out of it.

Or give him a ring of levitation if you really want to be sure.
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>>159837872
Fuck if I know, its my first time playing Fomoria and my first time T-striking.
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>>159837835
Cast flight or get an item that does flying
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>>159837872
You want lightning resistance, Antimagic does literally nothing against T-strike.
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>>159837924
>>159837940
>>159837964
What about that spell that causes acid to rain every turn?
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>>159838048
i dont think it has a res

just accept that he'll acid rain himself to death eventually
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I know innate spellcaster means the guy casts while moving/attacking. But he'll still follow my script right?

I think this is probably the only use I could ever find for the hands of X type spells if so
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>>159838048
You could put some big stupid pile of HP in one of the very back corners (like a dark vine or something) and script the mage to retreat after casting so the spell will keep going off until the meatshield dies.
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>>159838434
Battlefield spells end when the caster leaves.
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>>159838495
Do they? Damn, and here I thought I was being clever.
I guess your mage is fucked.
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>>159838541
Worked like that in dom3. Caused an obnoxious exploit with mists of deception+wrathful skies, to the point players were barred from using it and set AI if they did.
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FaFFoDG Fire-Bro here.

I haven't been able to keep up with turns for a while now. Please either sub or AI me. Sorry.
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>>159838048
Forge the caster a good set of armor, boost his health as much as possible (enlarge, etc), and give him regen.

That should let him survive acid storm pretty easily.
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Starting to think Ulm and Pink might be the same guy.
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waiting on yomi and hinnom now

i cant wait to see if this trick works
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Who's going to win? The barbarian horde, or perhaps the unscripted ungeared dryad without gems?
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>>159848657
barbarians routinely lose to worse than that
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>>159848657
Does she get a lucky vine arrow on the barbarian chief that routs the army?
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>>159848691
Why do they have such bad morale anyway? To strong otherwise or something?
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>>159848739
No, she survives the initial set of blows with awe and casts Tune of Fear, routing barbarians instantly.
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>>159848821
10 morale is typical for undrilled troops. It's not bad, it's the standard value. Even some elite professional troops (like satyr hoplites) have as much.

Of course, barbarians tend to take hostile dominion penalty and are undisciplined for further -1.
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oh i see how it is

just so happens that hinnom and yomi are late on their turns

fuckers are planning something
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Oceanian Thread.
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>>159853142
people call Oceania a continent

i never understood that.
i feel like they're just clutching at straws.
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>>159854479
It has to do with geopolitical reasoning rather than actual geologically founded geography. There are significantly more islanders than there are Australians who aren't on any continent, whereas Australians had there own.
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>>159854629
but surely the definition of a continent doesn't apply to small ass, scattered islands just because the next door landmass has fuck all people living on it relative to land size.

by that logic, why is Antarctica a continent and not New Zealand?
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>>159854878
Antarctica and Australia are both continents. Oceania's a made up thing that gets called a continent for political reasons, as mentioned. I was just explaining why that exists.

Also, NZ is part of Oceania.
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>>159854930
>Also, NZ is part of Oceania.
nah fuck that, we're ceding from them, we want our own new zealand continent because politics.

also it's specifically only the south island, stewart island and the chatham islands, the rest of new zealand can remain oceania thx.

political shit needlessly complicates simple matters.
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>>159834596
>6 vs 1

Nice history revisionism. I think you mean 2-3 players out of which half were noobs occasionally sending parties without mage support against you and everyone else openly "opposing" but not actually doing anything.

And you sure are quick to throw under the carpet poor Asspoodle who literally got fucked trying to help you.
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>>159856218
>literally got fucked
Lucky devil
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U L M
L
M
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Is there any point to using Demon Slayer over Gate Cleaver? Even against demons the damage is roughly the same except cleaver is also AN.
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>>159857449
>>159857449
the multiplied damage is applied before prot, so a high strength unit wielding it does a LOT of damage.

They use different gem types (10E or 15E v 5W)
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>>159857598
Does it stack additively or multiplicatively with demon cleansing?

I mean as in A + A + 2*A (Attack+DC+slayer) or as in 2*3*A=6A
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Do units set to sneak and attack have the same interaction with magic phase attacks as units set to attack current province?
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>>159857850
no
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>>159857895
Perfect, exactly what I wanted.
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Abysia 2h file received
>>Agartha Waiting for 2h file
Atlantis 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Unexpected Nation 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
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>>159856713
This motherfucker is going to stale on the first turn.
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>>159858192
Just as well too, I had a couple changes to make for maximum ghost removal capabilities.
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Turn delayed while I sort out this trade deal fuckery. I sent him another email just to be sure, so I'll give him a few hours. In the offchance that Artea doesn't give signs of life nor upholds the deal, anyone feel like subbing in?
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>>159859112
https://twitter.com/antibullyranger
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Ulm is stale soon. Wat do.
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>>159859862
FRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE CAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
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Does anyone have the github for that PBEM utility? Does it have inotify/fsnotify support?
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>>159858192
Please don't stale Agartha-san
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>>159854479
Why the fuck are europe and asia separate continents? They're even on the same tectonic plate.
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>>159860060
https://github.com/etheralm/dom4pbem
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>>159860123
>Java
Fuck you. I'm making my own.
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>>159860097
RIGHT?!?!?

also, americas, develop unique names plz and thx.
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>>159860146
Go for it, senpai.
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>>159860146
Go ahead and do it faggot, lots of people saying they will but nobody does it.
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>>159860146
>>159860605
Someone made another one in python. Not very complete, and work seems to have stopped because of lack of interest.

https://github.com/Feldherren/dom4-python-llamaserver-helper

I've been slowly coding up one of my own in python too, but I'm not sure I'll get it to a state where I'm happy releasing it anytime soon.
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>>159860605
github.com/moggers/pbemutil
I'm doin it onii-chan
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>>159860830
>go

Are you a gay? Just asking.
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>>159859862
Kick and restart
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>>159860993
yes moggers is a known gay
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>>159860993
He actually is.
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>>159860993
No. And what do you hate about go?
>Muh generics
Aside from that.
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ded
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>>159863156
As it has always been and must stay.
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>>159859489
>In the offchance that Artea doesn't give signs of life nor upholds the deal, anyone feel like subbing in?
I propose instead that we cut our losses and stop playing this bad game. In fact we should do that in all Dom4 games and never play another.
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>>159864381
I agree with this, I'll be shutting down the 4 games I am adminning and I suggest other admins do the same.
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>>159858192
>>159859112
I'm busy, I thought I told admin that I wasn't going to be around yesterday but apparantly I talked to the wrong person. Your turn will get done when I get a chance to get to it.
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If you have the gems at hand, what's the best use of mageturns for high air mages?

Spam thunderstrike, or spam air elementals?
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>>159865073
Air gems are pretty valuable, but air elementals are really good with t-strike. If you're going into a big-ass battle, do both. Air eles will fly to the enemy turn 1 thus blocking his charge and letting you t-strike easier. And they're immune to lightning too.
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>>159848832

>that feel when now I can't fantasize about 40 barbarians graping a qt dryad now
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Hey, something happened.
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>>159865413
Whoops, wrong screenshot.
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>>159865073
If you have Living Air, definitely air elementals.

Living Air is amazing - a high air caster can pump out hordes of air elementals every round.

If you don't have Living Air it's closer, but I'd still say air elementals.

Neither thunderstrike nor air elementals scale in power well, so it's down to whichever gets more use out of the fatigue reduction. Air elementals have a higher fatigue requirement and are more powerful per cast, so I'd say they get a lot more use out of it than thunderstrike.
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OCEANIAN DEMON SHARKS WHEN

I WANT TO MAKE THE OCEAN RUN RED
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>>159794095
Oh sorry, I honestly don't remember getting the stuff in the trade. I must have gotten it on one of the turns I staled, so I had no clue. Let me check my 2h files and see what turn it was on, and I'll fulfill the trade, with some interest for the trouble.
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>>159794095
>>159867567
Ok found the trade, definitely missed it because of the stales, and the reminder of the stales. Sent them about a 66% increase of the amount agreed upon to make it right. Sorry for the trouble everyone, wasn't being malicious, was just being an idiot.
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Pytgium, you've been "rebuilding" for the past twenty turns instead of helping fight ermor. This shit is why I invaded you the first time, and I will happily raid the bejeezus out of you if it starts up again, especially since you took provinces from me more than a year ago that I took from ermor under the pretense that you needed access.
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>>159854878
"Continent" just doesn't have one set, scientifically based definition. It's as much cultural as it is geographical already so why the fuck not.
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>>159868771
whatever comments you have for him he won't see, he's on his trip till monday
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>>159870672
Oh, I know who that is. Yeah, don't trust him.
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Would anyone like to sub for Nazca in an Oredia game? Turn 51 and from what I've scouted seem to be in a good position with a ton of those ethereal flyers.
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>>159867567
>>159867951
Alright thank God, you can iron out whatever deals with the dorfs now, was getting very worried I'd have my first ever purposefully broken trade deal on my hands.

Since this is ironed out, I'll take my turn now and we'll be back to normal.
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>>159864796
News to me, who did you talk to and on what platform?
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>>159872636
I contacted by Marg and incorrectly assumed it was him, my own fault not yours.
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Due to majority vote we have put the game back to start thanks to ulm stalling turn 1. I will restart it shortly unless someone wants to join last minute
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Why is nobody posting maps? Where'd that guy who was making a map go?
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>>159873439
I apologize, I had to stay over hours since I had to do some unexpected extra work and midnight security watch.
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>>159857449
Demon Slayer doesn't get a penalty to attack
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>>159873750
will you rejoin the game if your still down?
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>>159865940
Are you talking about Living Clouds?
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REEEEEE HINNOM SUBMIT YOUR TURN
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>Der_Gotterdammerung
>NĂ¥got gick fel!
>dnf: bg area 0x0

Who did the thing
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>>159873876
Yup, it's veteran's day weekend.
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>>159874471
alright, re-submit your pretender
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What are some guides to use after finishing the tutorial?
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>>159875018
lube up and join a blitz

memorize the bullshit and dirty tricks they're doing to you. do them to someone else
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>>159868771
It's like you didnt even play this game at all. Ermor took aal of my provinces but my cap and pillaged all of them until 200+ unrest.
I couldnt recruit ANY UNITS until 3 turns ago. How the hell was i supposed to invade ermor? Sending the last mages i had with no units to cover them? HELLO?

The only reason all of this ahppened is because tou attacked me and let ermor in. Then he cucked you and now you are butthurt.

Feel free to keep being a dick and raid me if you feel like it.


t. (You)
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>>159871483
t. Coolstory
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>>159874190
Sorry, wanted time to work out my next turn since it might be a bit of a nightmare. On my way home right now, so will take turn as soon as I get there.
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So should I bother doing my turn for SteelDomg or not?
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>>159876341
don't, waiting for ulm to re-submit pretender then I'll start the gmae again
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>>159876116
how could it possibly be a nightmare?

is fomoria finally invading?
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>>159877019
Ssssort of. He's coming to try to push out my invasion 'army'. Not sure how this is going to end up going.
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>>159876724
any chance i could resubmit a diff pretender? as mictlan?
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>>159878747
yes just send the pretender and llama will auto change it
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>>159873695
I thought everyone already knew where everyone was so I stopped working on it. What continents do you need? Everything but Asia is fully mapped.
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>>159879506

Hows lizards doing
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Yo jomon, you want a hand with your little ghost problem?
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Well what happened in rubbadub
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>>159880327
I made a largely unsuccessful strike against the African menace.
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>>159875821
I invaded you last time because the "deal" you offered was literally "invade ermor and I'll help out later sometime.". The subsequent deal you offered was "give me gold and I'll fight ermor". When I pointed out that you were retarded, you accepted a white peace on the understanding that we cooperate against ermor.

You haven't upheld your side of the bargain. Instead, you've been taking provinces that I took from Ermor and massing amphibious troops and fliers on my border with you. I don't really give a shit that he pillaged you. He tried the same on me, and you don't see me crying about it.
I have upheld my side of the bargain. Unlike you, I committed my forces to fighting ermor. I have destroyed multiple armies similar to the ones Ashdod is facing, a far larger number of undead, a number of archbishops and other summoned commanders, and have done so with far less shit than you have available, and far fewer losses.

tldr: if you try to take advantage of people, don't be a salty shitter when they decide not to take it. As you can see, you're already developing a reputation as somebody who it isn't worth negotiating with, because every time you just try to fuck people over instead of cooperating.
>>159871483
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>>159880690
Mostly because I elfed myself.
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>>159880780
You are making out your own fanfic of our story together. And even if appreciate it, it's not true.

I can believe you at salty at someone in the internet for your own headcanon.
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>>159881674
I cant believe you are salty at someone in the internet because of your own headcanon.*
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>>159873287
Oh sorry, I didn't realize you were telling me that bc you thought I was the admin. If you makes you feel better, I staled in the game I AM hosting since I can't read timestamps.
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>>159883981
it's cool either way, no one bothered to jump on me for my own stall
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i think i just resubmitted the last pretender for steel-domg-run restart.
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>>159880131
What happened? Also aren't you already fighting ghosts?
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>>159887332
jomon is getting overrun by ghosts, seems pretty simple
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>>159887332
My ghost busting was put on hold while I maneuvered another army into position. Now its ready to get going again and I just happen to be beside one of jomons forts that is under siege by ghosts. I could probably clear them out for him if he wanted but I would like to make sure first.
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>>159886902
still no ulm yet and he expressed a desire to rejoin
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>>159887504
>Fighting 1v4 as Lemuria
>Instead of huddling 2000 ghostsinnafort and casting BoT, he goes out and kills a man
INNOVATIVE

That's pretty based, desu, but I can't wrap my head around how he'd do that with indy crossbows and freespawn
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How does everyone feel about Illwinter going up?
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>>159887835
Lemuria is pulling no punches. Pretty sure he has Mari pretty fucked up as well.
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Mari was fucked up but he's recovered a little, I have no clue what mictlan is doing and abysia is getting comfy after eating Ulm
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>>159888147
Abysia's cap is still under siege by random barbarians.
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how do i lategame
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>>159887927
Pretty cold desu.
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>>159888330
go ai
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>>159887657
does he live on the moon timezone or somthing?
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>>159888147
From what I can see Mictlan is hemmed in by Lemuria but doesnt appear to be actively under attack.
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>>159888330
>>159888532
Fucking this. Lategame isn't fun. And if you're not having fun, there's only one thing for you to do.
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>>159888575
if he doesn't rejoin by tonight I'll just go on without him. I hope he does rejoin though I hate dropping nations due to unfortune RL shit
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I'm playing EA Ermor against AI and I don't know how to use my mages or what to research. Lost my Dragon pretender, trying to rev him but it's taking a while. Getting attacked from all sides. There's an underwater throne that I don't know how to approach, either. Could use some help.
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>Cast "trannsformation"on a important caster because you want him to be beefier.
> He turns into a dog
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>>159889602
Isnt casting transformation a pretty dicey move anyway?
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>>159889602
Transformation is mostly good for eliminating upkeep only.
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>>159889778

Hell, it doesn't even always do THAT.
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>>159888147
>I have no clue what mictlan is doing
Same here
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>>159889721
sometimes you can get really good stuff.
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>>159890067
You get in any fights yet? Apart from that one time with me?
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>>159890067
taht shambler attack UW was really fucking cute though
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>>159889721

It's kinda iffy if you don't have GoH up and Luck3.

If you do, it's perfectly fine to cast on pretty much all of your research corps. I once ended up with three Giant Eagle former-Pans as MA Pan. All of them could Earthquake.

That was really nice.
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>>159890502
Not yet. Things have been relatively peaceful so far, apart from a couple of clashes during expansion.

I'm probably plotting something, though. Honest. Better keep your guard up.
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>>159891097
Making a horde of dog-girl assassins is both cute and makes you absolutely cancerous to invade
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Guys? What about grey taking all the thrones and AI capitals?
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Anyone got a dwarf hammer they can trade? I can pay for it in death gems.
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>>159891697
=)
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>>159891547
I'm a bit preoccupied by White invading me with an army of naked people.
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>>159891697
sent
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>>159891807
Just ask him to help you with Grey then. He's a much bigger threat to the game right now. Look at the thrones and UW.
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>>159891868
Unfortunately I am between White and Grey.
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>>159891547
The only capital I have right now is my own, though. I'm currently sieging Black's (who is AI), but I'm not about to break through. I know White has Beige's capital, and Brown is sieging Pink's.

It's true that I have most of the underwater provinces, but there's not much of value in them. The only magic sites I've found can't actually be used underwater.

I have no idea how powerful I am compared to anyone else, though.
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>>159892606
You're strong, but that has more to do with the mages you got
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>>159891801
This is not Lemuria. I am cross that someone would pretend to be me. =/

I do not have any dwarven hammers yet, but that's because I haven't had the luxury to invest in construction research yet. =)
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>>159892987
I only want the one anyway. I dont actually have any forging myself but I might as well plan ahead.
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>>159893274
That's fine, I'm not upset with you. =)

I'm bothered only by people pretending to be others on the thread, because I enjoy public discussion of games and doing that discourages it. =(
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>>159892884
What mages? Asking for a friend.
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>>159892987
>This is not Lemuria. I am cross that someone would pretend to be me. =/

Maybe that wouldn't have happened if you weren't such a flaming fucking faggot.
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>>159892987
>I am cross that someone would pretend to be me. =/
What if I wasn't pretending to be you and just developed an appreciation for =)
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>>159893645
Oh, well that's quite all right then. =)

I should not have assumed the worst of you. I apologize. Next time, I will simply clarify that I do not have any in case someone did get mixed up by my frequent use of that same smile. =)
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>>159893740
=)
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>>159893859
Are you a terrorist?
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>>159894013
Yes.
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>>159895626
summod akbar
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>>159674596
That wiki is pretty work in progress.
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>>159896591
Contribute
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HINNOM AND YOMI GET OFF MY ISLAND REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159896591
No doubt. I make an addition here and there when I have the time, but I'm sorta shit at the game, so the places where it really needs additions, I can't make any
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>>159896831
Make Sy do it. He always answers questions when I bother him.
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Is there interest for another all newb game, that isn't RubADub?
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>>159897838
I got room for more games now that I am dead or dying in others.
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>>159897838

I can guarantee you that everyone in CastInTheNameOfBob is terrible? Or Malakal
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>>159898885
yeah, but who honestly likes playing LA games with R'lyeh and Lemuria?
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>>159898973
Lemuria's not that bad if they actually go fight people and don't just go BoT + unbreakable forts
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>>159898973

People who play R'lyeh or Lemuria.
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>>159898973
To be fair its a pretty big game, it'll have most of the nations. t. Not R'lyeh
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>>159898973
Lemuria in Latus3 sure seems to like it.

Fuck that global desu senpai.
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>>159899062
>mfw Lemuria casts BoT and I'm Atlantis
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>>159899239
Just because it hurts you less doesn't mean you actually enjoy a deteriorating income
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>>159899062

I like scripting and strategy too much to consider staling in a fort for fifty turns until everyone goes AI a worthwhile use of time. Don't anticipate BoT, the only thing it's useful for in Dom4 is moving you to the top of everyone's target lists. I could be spending those gems on More Lemurs, which'd at least serve a useful purpose.
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>>159899456
Luckily my sacreds cost less than a packet of crisps to maintain and by that point I can probably spam summons.
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>>159899683
Again, it hurts you less than most, but it still hurts you. If you aren't spending every penny you've got on forgiving fathers, idk why you're playing Atlantis.
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>>159899914
The benefits outweigh the losses in my opinion.
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>>159899914
If it hurts you less than everyone and Lemuria is irrelevant then it's still a net gain
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Is there a list of possible wishes and their effects anywhere?
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>>159901773
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/a-guide-to-wish.html
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thanks to the restart even more people have renamed their god to a proper jojo
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>>159873918
Yes
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>>159889547
Some good things to do with EA Ermor mages:

Augur:
>Have an Augur Elder communion up and cast Light of the Northern Star (conj4), then have every augur cast Stellar Cascades (evo5)
>use a gem to summon a lesser fire elemental (conj3)
>communion up, have the communion masters cast fireball (evo3)
>give a jar of fire, phoenix power then cast fireball (evo3)

Augur Elder:
>Cast Horde of Skeletons (ench5)
>If D3, cast Bane Fire (evo6)
>Use gems to summon fire elementals (conj5)
>Cast Phoenix Power then spam fireball
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>>159904425
Augur Elders can melt shit with bane fire and communion boosted shadow blasts
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>>159904425
need to think bigger with elders
>wailing winds
>nether darts
>will of fate casters

also I try to keep auger elders out of commuions since they have a tendency to spam D spells after they go off script which kills normal augers real fast
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>>159904662
>communion boosted shadow blasts
That's a good point, didn't think about that.

>>159904663
Those are good things to do, but I was focusing on stuff which he can get with as little research as possible.
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>>159904662
>>159905014
ah I see your point, still after your down shadow blasting I would put the elder on communion slave duty so he doesn't accidently dust your auger with more D spells
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Tell me if I'm understanding this correctly. Let's say I have a mage scripted to cast a spell with a lethal level of fatigue (400 or something). It just knocks him out. If, however, he is in communion with one slave, it kills the slave but the master is still able to cast. Is that right?
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is there a mod to improve the arena's rewards?
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>>159905540
Yes.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-jNQgOwI-Q_Z2VSZGpSVlZkX2s/view
It gives you random artifacts and you arent forced to defend your title.
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>>159905121
>it kills the slave but the master is still able to cast. Is that right?
Not quite.

Assuming both slave and master have the same paths, the 400 fatigue from casting would be evenly split between the two of them.

So the slave gets 200 fatigue (and no damage, because it's not above max fatigue), master also gets 200. That still puts the master to sleep and makes him unable to cast further until he recovers.

If the slave had weaker paths than the master he can take a multiplier to fatigue - causing 800 fatigue in the worst case. That would result in the slave taking 12 damage (600 extra fatigue, divided by 50) and kill him. The master would still gain 200 fatigue and be unable to cast.

If you want the master to be still able to cast afterwards, you need more slaves.
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>>159906016
Oh, I see. I assumed that the master being more powerful would make the slave take more fatigue and the master less fatigue as a result, but instead the fatigue is just added on after it gets divvied up.
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>>159899170
>tfw Lemuria's global once negated two of Lemuria's attacks on me in one turn

Also scared away a barb attack on the same turn.
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ded
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>>159905540
one day i'll look up how to do arena events
but not today.
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The Dedest Thred.
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Pelagian Thred.
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Erm... the Revive King spell is missing. It's supposed to be Enchantment 2, but it doesn't appear to exist under the mod. Can this be fixed? Is there another cheap way to get undead leadership?

I tested my national summons but never thought to try the vanilla summons.
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red what do you mean by we race war?

i havent done jack shit all game and wasn't planning on changing that
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>>159922581
I mean we are going to go to war with the white man.
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>>159922581
>>159924753
Pls send help, I was just trying to say ok in a funny way. I can see him massing more naked people for an attack.
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waiting on yomi
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>great start before
>now I'm surrounded by swamps and wastes

Such is life in the devil's palm.
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>>159921886
Try using Banes or Revs.
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>>159927839
>poor start before
>much better start now
>know someone else is probably stuck in my last starting position
Thanks Ulm.
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Theodian Thread.
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Hey admin how about we go over to 48h? We're well past turn 40 now.
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>>159930608
Alright. I would have needed a 12h extension this turn due to normalfag issues anyway.

Let me fucking post goddamn shit servers
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>>159897838
yes
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>>159930608
>Constant turn extensions due to fuck ups
>Looking forward to finally getting back to 24 hour turns
>Lmao 48 hour turns
REEEEEEEEE
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thread when
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Do magical beings like Elemental Kangz not take any combat fatigue like mindless beings?
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>>159937743
you mean lifeless/undead. and they take fatigue
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>>159937821

Lifeless don't take battle fatigue, only magic fatigue. Golems will fight on without reinvigeration, their encumbrance is always set to 0.
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>>159937871
That's what I said. Elemental kings take even combat fatigue.
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>>159937925

The reason I'm wondering is because they show up as 0 fatigue on their character sheet, even with a magical armor on.
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>>159937743
Three sources of fatigue:
Combat actions
Spellcasting
Fatigue damage.

All units take fatigue from spellcasting. 0enc units ignore fatigue from combat actions
Fatigue damage depends on immunities. Lifeless units won't be targeted by cascades, for example.
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>the EA R'lyeh wiki page is just "please don't play it"
What's up with that?
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>>159938196
no summod
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>>159938151

Ok, so kangz and other magical beans(or maybe just some magical beans are 0 enc?) can still take fatigue damage and spell casting fatigue, while undead/lifeless units can only take spellcasting fatigue?
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>>159938151
fun fact: spells like steller cascade do cause fatigue damage to lifeless units, however they will never purposly target them due to the 0 encumburance so the Ai never thinks it's a good idea.
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>>159938245
Undead and lifeless can still take fatigue damage; they're just immune to specific sources. Mage bane will always fatigue them, as will elemental fatigue damage to which they aren't immune and axe of hate. Non lifeless undead are still vulnerable to cascades, too, I don't know where that idea came from. Magic being is also irrelevant. 0 enc is what matters, and it just means no fatigue from attacking, berserk, flight, and trampling.
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>>159938556
That is why I said won't be targeted.
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>>159938567

0 enc seems quite powerful though so I assume that's relegated to summons alone. I don't think I've ever seen a commander with it.
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>>159938647
It's not really a balance issue, it's just that basically all recruitable units are living creatures and living creatures always have encumbrance.

For some examples, LA Ulm gets recruitable cap-only 0 encumbrance troops and commanders and Nazca gets undead mages with 0 encumbrance.
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