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Previous thread >>158757272

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm (embed)

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Jump into MP feet first
>Never create shitty threads with political images
>Work on your blogs, videos, and the wiki

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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First for DRN
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So where are those ScrubWarrior graphs?
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>>159038693

Serpent Dancers.
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>>159038693
Your favourite one is the shittiest.
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Fifth for shilling

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty
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>>159057604
I forgot I even signed up for that.
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>>159057736

Probably not gonna start for a week or two yet, I figure. Although maybe Bizarre ending will get some more players?

Mostly started as a reaction to Malakal Malakalling AllMAGames and my suddenly having time for another game.
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In other news it looks like about 15 people signed up for the disciple game.
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>>159056981
Didn't the guy posting them get banned for posting Democrats?
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>>159060198
Yep. It's moggers, I think.
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Dalkrin Thred.
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Remember to join games http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Steel_Domg_Run
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Fishy don't be shy. Make your goddamn turn.
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>>159063667

Ugh this map. Nothing like 6 province cluster of swamps eh
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>>159065292
It's not really a cluster when it's a straight line surrounded by good provinces.
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>>159063667
Add 2 or 3 province start
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>>159066025
>being a bitch that cant expand
But I'm just shilling anyway so I cant change it.
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>>159066201
I just don't like having to deal with completely ass retarded starts next to only thrones, heavy cav, and amazons
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>>159066827
Thats all part of the game famalam.
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>>159066025
Nah, I just consider it better than having to wait half a dozen turns because the map design is shit and the game said fuck u
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>>159067759
>expecting fairness
>in dominions
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Multi-province starts don't make shit maps un-shit, but they at least make playing on them more bearable.
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>>159069791
Or you could suck it up and not be a bitch. Expansion is one of the more important parts of the game.
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>>159069874
Yeah, suck it up next time when you start in a mountains with 2 connections one of which is gonna be the 3-point throne, and the other a heavy cav province.

Fag.
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>>159071328
SALT
A
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>>159071328
Maybe you should have started with an awake pretender huh?
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>>159071742
Would be an idiotic choice for Vanheim.
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>>159071827
>playing elves
This explains everything.
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>>159071827
>unable to deal with a level 3 throne and heavy cav
>as fucking vanheim
I was with you for a bit, but in this case it's just you being bad.
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>>159073507
It was MA. And MA Vanheim even with double bless can't reliably deal with heavy cav for like 2 turns anyway because starting troops are mediocre and 4 vans won't change much. Just try it on a random map, you'll see what I mean.

And the passage about level 3 throne is fucking ridiculous. What are you gonna do on turn 2 against a RoS spammer, suicide your army?
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>>159073826
>What are you gonna do on turn 2 against a RoS spammer, suicide your army?
Use Living Pillars :^)
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>>159073826
>And MA Vanheim even with double bless can't reliably deal with heavy cav for like 2 turns
So you lose one turn of expansion. Big deal. You can split the parties up after you take it.

>What are you gonna do on turn 2 against a RoS spammer, suicide your army?
Walk over it. Unless you're doing innovative scales vanheim your expansion parties are all stealthy.
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How important is skill in this game? Are there any factions that are just beyond all help?
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>>159074743
That's what I did. The thing is, you need innovative resources in your cap to make innovative vans/einheres. Without provinces in cap circle, it's almost impossible to produce sacreds at a usually innovative rate.
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>>159074787
Arguably there are, but unskilled player with a top-tier nation will still lose to an experienced one with a low-tier nation.

t. unskilled player with a top-tier nation
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>>159074787
Pretty important. The gap between the weakest and strongest nations is pretty big, but a good player can definitely win with any faction. Unless you're MA Oceania, apparently.
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>>159074787
Oceania is supposedly just useless, so is Vanilla Theo.
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>>159075248
I haven't seen any Machaka wins either.
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>>159075248
>Unless you're MA Oceania, apparently
EA* Oceania

MA Oceania at least has one trick. EA Oceania has only a little more than vanilla thed
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>>159063204
I have been summoned. What is your wish?
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>>159075720
Go north, dead man, and finish what Robbledoth started.
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>>159075720
Death gems!
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>>159075978
>>159075994
I'm sorry dear friends, you are mistaken. I'm not currently playing Dalkrin in a game. I'm the creator. My mistake.
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>>159075123
Einhere are available everywhere.

Vans cost 16 resources each - your capital alone can produce 5 a turn without production. That's as much as you have gold for anyway.

I'm not saying that it doesn't hurt at all, but you had basically the ideal nation to get stuck in that location. Anyone else would have been really screwed, vanheim should be just somewhat inconvenienced.
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>>159076310
What tier would you place your nation? Top, middle, bottom? It probably has the highest number of territories in our custom nation game and it leads on the gem/research chart.
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>>159077848
I was trying to get it balanced in line with the rest of the vanilla nations in the late age. I believe its considered middle or so on the main mod forums.
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>>159078092
u wot m8
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>>159076310
>>159078092
I can probably give some feedback once this game is over.

>>159077848
That's down to a good startposition and a lot of free space. I did not expand quickly for having an awake pretender, but I was allowed to expand well past turn 20. That coast cut off from the rest of the continent by a mountain range was just the ideal starting spot, and the RNGesus made it so I was the only one starting in notEurope. Gem income is a byproduct of that combined with the death capsite which is standard for undead nations.

Honestly I can't even use my territory properly anyway, had I been a living nation, I'd be leading those graphs by much more, since all this extra territory for me is almost useless, apart from a few nifty sites.
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>>159063667
good evening gentlemen, Reminder that this map has very minor terrain clustering, and the man crying over multe-province starts should know that not a single Lvl 3 throne exists in this game.

I also hope we see many of the same players that were involved in the first Jojo games
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>>159074787
In mixed skill games capable players can maintain 50%+ win rates playing a wide variety of nations (when average winrate would around 10% or less since most games have participants somewhere in the neighbourhood of 10 and only one can win). Some nations are very impotent compared to others and some capable nations have horrible matchups but if we're thinking of an expert player against a newbie or a scrub, the expert would win in all matchups.

There are numerous factors from tactics to diplomacy (when in game larger than a duel) that give a cumulative advantage, but one of the pronounced differences independent of played nations is bad players often being incapable of winning in a raiding game or making a determined assault. By dodging pitched battles the expert can conquer most of enemy territory without having to fight the enemy head on, and then win simply through virtue of having far more stuff: Many a time I've seen scrubs simply manoeuvering their deathball seemingly by random while I or some other assailant conquered their territory in blitzkrieg fashion with token forces without the enemy being able to predict where those forces would move next and catch them in the act.
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Bogarus, you're not accomplishing anything but helping Pangaea win while losing most of your mages and soldiers. I told you more than an ingame year ago to stop attacking midgard.
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>>159083786
Is it Kami?
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>>159085171
If that's the game I think it is, i'm in it actually. I'm the LA Atlantis. Took down LA R'lyeh after a long and incredibly annoying war because seriously fuck his dominion.
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>>159083786
Bogarus went AI (this turn I think), presumably after getting the bulk of their mage force feebleminded by Strands of Arcane Power. Oops!

But yeah, their behaviour was truly bizarre. I stand by my original analysis from around turn 20 (in my view Bogarus doesn't have a great matchup against MidgĂ¥rd so if I had been at helm, I would have sided with Pan against MidgĂ¥rd and dealt with that threat when it was more manageable and they were fighting nations other than just Pan) but they sat around doing nothing until the tables had most definitely turned and MidgĂ¥rd was neutralized, and then they effectively committed suicide by feebleminding their mages.

If Bogarus is around, I'd be really fascinated to hear their perspective and why they made the diplomatic choices they did (both in the initial neutrality and then turning against elves).
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>>159085432
Don't all the sea recruits for LA Atlantis come with void sanity?
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Oceanian Thred.
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>>159087087
Shouldn't their stealth stuff make them pretty good at raiding and elfing stuff?
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>>159085554
Just the expensive ones. And they arent as good as your regular stuff.
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Can anyone upload a copy of that one "What I expected, what I got" image for Dom 4? Trying to persuade a friend to buy a copy.
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>>159085554
They do, but the rest don't. Plus his dominion also has popkill, so towards the very end I was fighting in provinces with fuckall supply. End result is a huge pile of diseased guys that, whilst easily replaceable, is still a giant pain in the ass to deal with.
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>>159074787

It boils down to skill vs knowledge, and at what point you consider knowledge to be skill. You need a shitload of knowledge for this game. On how the mechanics work, and how units interact with each other on the battlefield, what kind of spells are available to you as any given nation, and what sort of strategy you can use them for. What strategies are available for your opponent and what you can do to counter it.

The real strategic skill in my mind boils down to using these knowledge to get the upper hand on your opponent. Mind-games and predictions are a big part as well, since turns are simultaneous. Wars can be won by baiting enemy armies out of position or successfully dividing and conquering your enemy.
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>>159085519
Midgard here. Bogarus was fighting me for most of that period. Essentially as soon as I turned back jomon. It was a constant drain on my resources and attention. There was no point when I was fighting you 1v1.
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I'll be playing Gath soon, how does an F4B9 bless sound, when the plan is to mass Se'ir as early as possible?

Dormant or imprisoned? Dormant would be available for soul contracts sooner, but it'll probably take more than half a year to get my blood economy in order.

Any tips for expansion? I'm thinking just go with levites, maybe with some archers.
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>>159088873
I must confess I didn't keep scouts on the Eastern border between the two of you because Bogarus had rather garrisons in their forts and was constantly shuffling forces in their core territory and my border (sizeable forces complete with mages and in positions that didn't make a lick of sense if they were actually moved against you) so I never even guessed they could possibly be fighting a war elsewhere and didn't bother scouting provinces that I thought didn't have anything that could possibly interest me.

Goes to show how indecisive the player was and depending on if they actually committed with any kind of seriousness, makes your resistance more commendable than I thought (as it turns out, I still haven't finished the job because it seems costly).
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I love ichtyids
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Ermor begone!
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What the fuck is this flag supposed to be???
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>>159095364
It's obviously a derpy horse with fabulous hair
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>>159095331
Ichtyid only nationgen when?
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Battle has been met with the foul ghost scum. I believe someone promised me a rather large sum of money.
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>>159095473
That actually sounds like a cool idea.
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>>159096112
And of course I forgot the image.
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>>159096284
I"ll take my reward as well
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Fish am I forgiven? :(
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Sorry, Yomi, but I'm taking that water province. It says you don't have anything there, so I'm doing it this turn. Nothing personal, I've just been choked out of sea provinces and kicked out of the land.
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>>159097465
Yeah we're cool. I won't make any more attempts at the land until I've liberated the seas, and I'm not mad at you anymore.
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i see your army fomoria you cheeky cunt
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>>159097748
Yay! Now I can get back to ??? because I think I underestimated how, uh, 'tricky' Hinnom is. Which is stupid because I literally asked people for a really bad nation to play so it's not like I shouldn't have seen it coming.
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>>159097817
Whut? I am going to go fight indies.
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>>159098005
okay, im keeping an army nearby just in case
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>>159077683
Which is why a multi province start is actually preferable.
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>>159098087
My army is tiny dont worry.
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I would say that for most games, maybe a 2 province start is good. It's not really a big difference and it prevents insane worst case scenarios where RNG just ruins your game from literally turn 0.
Well, mostly. It's still dominions RNG so it could just fill the world with invisible air mages probably if it felt like it.
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yomi........
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Looks like there are 2,000 ghosts in this thread.
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>>159098126
Nah, you just need non-shit maps.

Any decent map should have any 2 province areas labelled with nostart, and maybe even 3 province areas too.
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>In the meantime one of our players was killed by a government death squad (I wish I was joking) but we'll find a sub. I hope to get better news soon!
God damn, the Chinese Illuminati are way more hardcore than ours
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>>159104107
All maps should have at least 4 connections, or 3 connections with throne placements pre-placed.

And when I say connection, if it has a temp requirement - it doesn't fucking count. Neither do water provinces. Any amount of connections fewer than 4 (or 3 if thrones a pre-set) leads to a strong chance of fucking for tons of nations.

Though Vanheim is not one of them.
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>>159082312
Don't listen to the baddies asking for multi-province starts.
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>>159105986
They just sound sloppy. The only way you find out when our illuminati has done anything, is when players mysteriously triple stale. They even go to the length of bringing in a decoy to keep taking the player's turns after!
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>>159105986
Is this the new >stabbed by a methhead?
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>>159107147
>methhead
>not understanding all the cover identities that the illuminati use.
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Joining in on the anti-spook effort.
I believe there was supposed to be some money involved.
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>>159106737
This. Like Arco in FattestMeme was literally in the strongest position in the game and then all of sudden he was no more, didn't say anything , didn't even go AI.
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Lemurian Thred.
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Does liquid body reduce trample damage?
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Rather than delay the turn again, hosting interval was changed to 48 hours. It's late enough that this kinda makes sense anyways.
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>>159112420
It should since trample is AP damage last time I checked
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>>159116514
AP has nothing to do with it. Liquid body reduces piercing/bludgeoning/slashing damage, so it depends on whether trample is one of those damage types.
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>>159117429
This is my question
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>>159117462
I don't know, and I've never even seen it talked about before.

You'll probably have to test it yourself.
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>>159087453
Are you talking about this dom3 one?
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>>159097614
it has shit income so no probs.
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>>159082312
Give 2 province start
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http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/312265672107250359/?ctp=2

We need more senpais, more kouhais and more action from our senpais (you need to pick a kouhai!).

J O I N
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>>159075978
What DID Robbledoth start? To my north are Sylvania and Mathosia, no real way to reach anyone else without going through them.
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>>159082312
Dont listen to coolstory, 2 provinces start is pretty based.
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>>159119340
Robbledoth is fighting itza.
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>>159119558
Robbledoth was eating Itza's territory while Itza sat on their cap and waited.
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/domg/ thread
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LIVE
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Life is life
Nanaaananana
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I just want to bring to attention that Asphodel has indeed staled. I suppose the death in the family was actually his own.
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Stop playing the fucking game and keep the thread alive
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>>159128669
>Stop playing the fucking game
Ok.

Guess I'll just start staling in all of the games I'm in. :3
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Thanks for the Daeva bro
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>>159130525

>not using storm fliers
>not attacking turn1

He only has himself to blame.
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>>159130874
actaully there was no storm since I teleported/CT on him, but yes
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Always always always triple check your fucking research.
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>>159131018
It's the last thing you should do every turn.

I don't even want to remember how many times I set my research to finish exactly in one turn, only to forget and set a mage to cast or craft something, causing me to lose just enough RP to not finish the research.
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>>159130942
Perpetual Storm was cast first. If you look at the precision values, it was up, although for whatever reason I don't see the weather effects on my replay at least.
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>>159130942

Caelum should only use storm fliers anyway. And not having troops set up to attack right away is a huge mistake as Caelum fighting raids.
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>>159132062
What happened? Spookspam?
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>>159132416
just the basics, summon air elementals to tie up his none-lightning resist troops, horde of skeletons, Rigor mortis to freeze the mages, arrow fend to stop arrows from sniping my lemurias though eh still nailed one of them in the 1st turn
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>>159095364
it's a lion right?
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Asking for mod, what stats would Koishi have?
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>>159137065
What the fuck hiro, that's not Koishi
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>>159137065
>>159137182
Float or flying, stealth 100, glamour(not 100% fitting but makes her less noticeable), assassin, patience 10, astral magic and/or mind blast-esque attacks. Being a youkai she has above-human stats.
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How do you effectively deal with glamoured troops?
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>>159138782
it depends
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>>159138782
AoE attacks. 100 Precision spells. Misiles may help.
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>>159138782
Given the high defense on elves, ranged weapons or AoEs. Flaming arrows tend to pop elves real good.
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>>159138782
In battle? Massed ranged attacks and AoE attacks to pop their glamour.

Strategically? Mind hunt and generally trying to guess where they'll attack next.
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>>159138985
>>159139112
>>159139135
>missiles
I really regret picking MA Atlantis.
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>>159139135
worth noting that the Fires from Afar also hits stealthed units, but you may need multiple casts to kill the elves
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>>159139368
OH! You're fighting Ys's glamour knights

Use your lobsters. Trample doesn't care about glamor one bit, and big trample attacks will also do enough damage to kill the knights through their heavy armor whenever they fail the def check.
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>>159139501
also, the soulslay/paralyze astral spells ignore glamour entirely.

Also also, water elementals have a BUNCH of high damage AP attacks, so they work well too (then again, they work against most everything UW).

Flame Jellies can also work
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>>159139368
Hilariously, reef warriors pop glamour by getting hit with hoof attacks. Flame jellies and lobsters are better, though.
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>>159140349
>reef warriors pop glamour by getting hit with hoof attacks
That's a parry for you.
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>>159140349
I assumed they were fighting UW, where they don't have hoof attacks.

On land, atlantis will have way more trouble than uw, even with the addition of javs.
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>retards who think their mary sue shit from x franchise would have Doom Horror (or better) tier stats and abilities

What part of "war between gods" do people not understand? What makes you think your nation should be so superior to all that?
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>>159139807
>all these things I dont have
Rushing to voice of tiamat might have been a poor idea.
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>>159141047
care to share funny stories then just complaining vaguely?
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>>159141047
The fact that we know what are considered baseline human stats in Dominions, and that many gaming/animu franchises feature characters who are much, much more powerful than baseline humans.

I don't even like 2hu trash and even I know that most of those characters are supposed to have completely bullshit powers. That's just inherent to the setting. There's no point in being upset that animu shit has higher powerlevels than Dominions.
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>>159141053
You have water elementals, senpai, they are at Conj5 too.
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Another day another land taken from ghosts. Another day of not getting paid.
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>>159141460
You should send all of your death gems to Lemuria to fund a BoT.

I have played atlantis vs lemuria and I really regret not doing so
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>>159141413
That I have but I need gems to spam them, gems that I foolishly wasted on sea serpents. Between that and needing to protect my cap from arcos retarded indy armies I cant go out and drown Ys in water elementals.
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Only 3 games left, and I'm about to get killed in 2 of them.

I'm almost free from /domg/
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>>159141724
just accept the fact you lost UW bowl
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>>159142234
UW bowl was a shitshow anyway. Between Ys leaving the water and both Xibalba and Arcoscephale entering it, it was never going to be the knifefight to the death we were hoping for.
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>>159142234
I'm not part of your game but my UW bowl is not done just yet. My brave and valiant doom kraken crippled Ys early on before he died and Ys is down to about 3 or 4 provinces. My last attack was on his cap and he has 19 guys plus pd.
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>>159142523
atlantis broke UW bowl rules too when he attacked my province and wasted 800 gold and 2 turns of me building a fort. At this point atlantis should just die so Ys can help me with ermor since I just got meme'd by ermor because I forgot to rescript my mages for witherbones
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>>159128216
What do we do about this? Having an early game staler is pretty bad. I propose we kick him and restart the game.
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>>159142796
I think the only real winner of UWBOWL is Pelegia.
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>>159141648
To be fair, you tried to fight them alone iirc. Degenerate has a full on gangbang going, as Lemuria deserves.
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>>159141460
I believe that the payment was promised to the first nation to help invade them, which was Agartha.
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>>159143060
I'd rather we just find a sub, though that might be problematic
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>>159141460
>>159143527
Oh, and the second was Jomon, so you don't get the 300gold bounty either.
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>>159143527
>The first player to post a report of a victory against Lemuria will receive 500 gold, and each player thereafter will receive 300.
>each player thereafter will receive 300
>each player

And in direct response to my question
>I'm willing to pay 1k, including the bounty, at the beginning of the war, and another 1k after it's conclusion.

Also
>Since I want ghosts removed but don't border them, I'll match any payments Marignon makes and throw in two fire gems per turn to anyone at war with, and actively producing battle reports against, Lemuria.

If I dont see some cash flow my way somebody is going to end up with a lot of angry Eskimos on their front door and it wont be Lemuria.
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>>159143921
Oh, you're right. I missed that it was each. So yeah, you're owed 300 from Mari, 300 from Mysterious Benefactor, and 1k from Abysia
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>>159144059
wait, sorry, 1300 from Mari and 1300+4 fire gems from Mysterious Benefactor/Abysia. Reading comprehension.
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>purp going to stale after the extension

wew
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>>159144180
Thats more like it. Eskimos are a happy people but they dont take being jewed very kindly.
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>>159144259
To be fair, the Illuminati killed a member of his family. That's pretty up there for reasonable delays.
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>>159144259
Not that surprising given Purp and Asspoodle are the same person.
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>>159144360
I'm neither of those players; I was just confirming the totals that you were promised.
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>>159144483
Just as long as people are reminded of what they owe.
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>>159144364
>>159144403
>>159144259
So another 12 hour extension for vanilla cat? Look for a sub? What do you lads want?
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>>159141460
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>all these people looking for payment
>not just enjoying slowly mindbreaking that which is already lost corperal form
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>>159145938
I was drunk as fuck when I made that deal, I would have gone and fucked up Lemuria for a bag of peanuts. Not my fault they promised me a ton of cash.
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>arena competition in ScrubWarriors

Time to show off your OP modnat bullshit, I hope none of you will be cowards and hide from a proper fight.
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>>159146425
they should send their gods, that's the true way to have fun
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>>159146501
Immortality doesn't work in the arena, right? Asking for a friend.
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>>159147759
Your friend is right.
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>>159147759
The arena is outside your dominion, so immortality indeed won't work.
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Machaka we're waiting
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>>159128216
>>159143060
I'll work on getting a sub. Other players have had a bad time expanding, so one stale is acceptable in this case. I might be willing to roll back the turn if enough people want to do it.

The sub position is open to players of all skill levels, but it may only be temporary.
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>>159149642
Are we gonna get Malakal'd?
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>>159149739
Sum1 needs to sub, doesn't matter who.
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I'm sorry to disappoint you, Pythium, but I don't think you'll be destroying me today.

I've already destroyed myself.
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>>159150305
These are some very good news!
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>>159150305
Sounds exactly like what someone with 15 provinces at turn 7 would say.
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>>159149642
I'm opposed to any turnback because of bad expansion phases just saying.
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>>159150305

Oh, well, I guess that we can just ignore you then...
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>>159149642
>I might be willing to roll back
In that case I'll be going AI
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>>159152689
In that case, I'll be going AI as well.
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Reminder that there are literally enough unassigned Senpais/kohais to start the game now as soon as they pick partners
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>>159154326
I wish okofire's senpai the best of luck, you're going to need it.
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>>159154558
Assign him to malakal as penance.
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>>159156447
Malakal has done nothing wrong.
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>>159156646
Oko has.
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>>159156646
t. Malakal
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>>159156646
Forgot my name
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What do you people think about using Troglodytes to expand as Sloth 3 Agartha?
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>>159157735
You're using them with Olms, right? If so, they work fine. Without, they can have pretty bad attrition.
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>>159157735
innovative
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>>159154326
Team up you niggers I want to find out what shitty nation I get landed with.
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>>159157735
I don't like the casualty rate.
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>>159157951
>>159158020
>>159158218
Follow up question.

Would you prefer Prod 2 Misf 2 or Sloth 3 Luck 3 on blessless EA Agartha.
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>>159157735
They either stomp shit dead or they die horribly.

It's a bit too 50-50 for my taste.
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>>159158517
Luck. Agartha expands fine with sloth. Agartha likes olms, summons, and mages. The only reason you even bother with Agarthan units is temporary line holders until you can replace them with mercuries, magma children, earth elementals, and umbrals
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>>159158517
If I had to pick one, I'd go with sloth and luck. I'd rather have S2L2 though, in order to have slightly better armored front-liners, which matters in the early game even though you stop caring about them in the midgame with earth elementals.
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>>159157735
Which era?
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>>159158880
EA
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>>159158982
You could, but it's probably just easier to just use basic pale one infantry+olms to fire closest.
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>>159154326
just draw the fuckers randomly, otherwise it'll take a week at least
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>dislike late game turns, because amount of micro
>know that I will lose both my games anyway
>don't want to shit on games by going AI as a major power, and don't want to seem like a guy asking for sub when I start losing war
>instead sent half-assed turns in and hope that it is over soon
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I've returned from delivering my kin's soul out of the shadow realm, and am ready to do my double turns.
Sorry if I took longer than the requested extension, my perception of time for the past few days has collapsed and I'm not entirely sure how long I've taken.
I'll continue playing in all games and simply take the consequences of any stale turns as if they were bad events.
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>>159163090
>woman
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>>159163090
Why not try fucking things up for everyone by casting mad globals?
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>>159163090
I know that feel all too well.
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>>159163090
>major power
>will lose
That's not how it works. Get your shit together.
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Are the Asuras summons any good for Kailasa and Bandar in ME?
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>>159163185
>got a free fort in an event
Worth the wait. Sorry about your relative purple.
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>>159163347
sorry friend but you were just putzing around with those thrones and two capitals. You did a great job crushing Man though.
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>>159163090
Are you Soph?
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>>159164879
>two capitals
You mean three. I had my own, Man and Jomon.
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>tfw I have hundreds of rp but need ten more to finish research.
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>>159165392
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>>159165224
that's what I meant but yes
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>>159165392
>Do late game turn
>Forging 5-10 items, casting about as many rituals, moving dozens of mages around for combat or raiding
>54 RP short of Alt 9
>NEED that Army of Gold
>Go through whole turning looking to see which mages can be cut to make it
>Finally find the right balance and end turn
>Wake up in the middle of the night to realize you forgot an essential battlefield buff
>Add the mage, stick it in the army, sigh in contentment and go back to sleep
>Come back after work the next day to a new turn - 14 RP short of Alt 9.
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Can I get an extension? My email is currently soiling itself. In the process of addressing that, but I'm into the "If we're lucky, the sharks will stay away until we reach shallow water" phase of troubleshooting, so I can't be certain.

Worst case, another 8 hours should be sufficient.
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>>159163090
>doing terribly in two games, but nobody wants to finish me off
>one of the leading powers in the third thanks to great expansion, but no idea what I'm doing so it's only a matter of time before someone eats me alive

I know the feeling too.

That's what I get for joining games when I'm too busy to put much thought into them, I guess. I plan to stick around until the end, but I'm secretly hoping it comes soon.
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>>159163830
Cast ethereal on them and they wreck shit
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Welp, it seems Kailasa has begun attacking me. Posting his bless for others to see and counter.
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>>159167621
>Tribless
>no W
Innovative Kailasa strategy
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>>159167621
>E9 S9 N9
For what purpose?
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>>159167621
>tri bless kailasa
enjoy your death hinnom
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>>159167887
"Affordable" chassis
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>>159167887

Well, they might be able to survive being hit as often as twice with that bless?
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>>159167009
Granted
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>>159167621
arent you the guy that was posting about how you fucked up your expansion?

i would be surprised if no one attacked you desu senpai. and now there's probably vultures coming in to pick at monkey leftovers
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>>159168323
Blind expansion failed. After that I expanded okay with ponies (and said so in-game, been trying to get chatter going).
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>>159167907
It's not a good bless, though. E9 and S9 are barely helpful.

You could take N9E6 and have nearly as good a bless.
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>>159168523
I was honestly thinking of attacking you as well, not gonna lie.
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>>159168545
it might not be a good bless but it's still hinnom, he doesn't have much to repel it
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>>159168625
is this ryleh or yomi?

desu senpai probably everybody is gonna pick off at least one province now that they know monkeys are doing the heavy lifting
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>>159168639
He has chariots. If they can trade 1:1 with those triblessed sacreds (and I bet they can) he wins easily.
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>>159168820
Wouldn't you like to know. Dont worry, you wont see me for a few turns yet.
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i attacked hinnom because he took the throne on my island

i didnt commit my full forces to the attack because i can see fomoria and yomi moving troops around. i had just enough to drive off his chariots.
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>>159168820
we're not antisemites, Shekel-chan.
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>>159169137
>took the throne on your island
>took the neutral province you hadn't touched all this time

At the very least don't try to spin it. Just stick with it.
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>>159169137
>>159169294
claiming entire areas as "yours" without any sort of diplomacy is my favorite noob meme.
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>>159169421
I would like to claim Hinnom's cap as mine. I will be attacking him shortly for wrongfully taking it.
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i see yomi has taken a throne but didnt claim it

he also has a second one in his general area

what's he planning?
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>>159169746
Looks p good to me. Jotun's expansion isn't resource-capped and he can take those provinces later on since no one else can get them.
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and all of riley's cap ring has been taken by no less than 3 different nations
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>>159169961
that's some innovative diplomancy strategy there, fomoria
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>>159170346
fomoria does look pretty strong

id say we're looking at a kailasa/fomoria/yomi fight but the monkeys might be distracted with hinnom
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How the fuck do you fight underwater nations?
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>>159170732
Remote attack spells or black servants with charms
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>>159170346
I can see literally one of your provinces.
>>159170613
>someone thinks I look strong
I have mostly been bumbling around dealing with a huge throne right beside me. I only got out of my cap ring like two turns ago.
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>>159170732
You cast Black Death on their capitals and just ignore them. UW nations win 0.00001% of games they're in.
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>>159170963
I also didn't even notice that I took Riley's cap ring until someone mentioned in the thread. It was full of indies when I got there.
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>>159142523
>xibalba entered UW bowl.
I took literally a single capring province so I could actually access more than 4 land provinces. Arco, Atlantis, and Ys all violated UWprotocol to a greater extent and with less cause.
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c'mon fishy do your turn, let's blitz a turn or two more tonight
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>>159169609
What a coincidence. So will I.
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>>159173668
>>159169609
I hereby declare war on both of you for trying to take my kill.
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>>159173804
In that case, I'll be going AI as well.
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>>159173154
Just got home. Gomen ne, Yomiko

>>159170302
Yeah, I really fucked up expansion. The rest of you were just memeing compared to me.
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>>159174317
Can't beat the guy who had 2 provinces on turn 7
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>>159174317
Sorry about smashing your expansion force Riley.
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Caelum, good luck with your move. Don't worry about the game, we can wait.
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Is machaka in the rubbadub lead?

That red snek expansion senpai
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>>159174513
This would be funny if it wasn't happening to me.
Anyways. Fomoria and Hinnom, I'm going to be moving into those water provinces sooner or later, so if you have any units in them I would highly recommend scripting a retreat or just moving them ashore altogether. Nothing personnel, squids just gotta squid (even if I have zero land forts so I can't even build squid men)
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>>159175104
Once the game's over, it's going to be interesting to look at the province graph and see who managed to expand well and who was full of shit.
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>>159146425
>i don't have any op commanders
I'll better just send a joke instead.
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Monkey here at the gym

What happened? Hinnom I just wanted the throne don't make this a homocide
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I JUST WANTED THE THRONE BRO

BUT IM DOWN TO THROW DOWN NOW
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>half the turns are in within 15 minutes
I love you guys.
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>>159180489
Too bad one of the other half won't be in until an hour before staling.
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monkey here

iu have to go to the bar and watch cubs game with friends

hinnom prepare for the ultimate battle next turn which will decide the fate of all mankind
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>>159181054
>>159176543
>>159178817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR_en0iMMDY
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Do your fucking turn Yomi.
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By the way, thank you to those who have sent messages of solidarity. Kailasa has indeed continued his attacks but I am now mustering the full might of jew-gold to form an army that, I hope, can see off his incursion. I will report on how it goes.

(Probably badly, let's be honest)
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>>159184053
I think he's euro, he'll do the turn at like fucking 5 am
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>>159184982
Its only ten to two tell him to stop being a pussy.
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>>159184982
I'm a euro and I did mine.
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>>159186343
You're a hero. I'll try to do next turn over breakfast as thanks.
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>>159186649
Okay then
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>>159190825
Ded
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>>159192652
Can a thread truly be dead if it was never alive?
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>>159195024
Really makes you think.
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What great strength! But even a giant struggles against the swallowing earth.
I admit it was an accident Ashdod, but know that we humble frogs are not defenseless!
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>>159197049
frankly he should APOLOGIZE
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Ermor begone!
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I know not who spreads the disease, but let it be told -
whoever's responsible is gonna have a bad time. Yes shillwinter, if its the random damn events, that means you too.
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>>159204614
Good look I'm behind 7000 black servants with bane venom charms.
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Lemurian Thred
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Capricornian thread.
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>>159184053
I apologise, Machaka-desu. At least you probably have better luck than me.
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>turn comes just after I leave for college, leaving me unable to find out what kailasa did for 8 or 9 hours
Panic
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>>159211994
>being able to play dominions at work
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Sceleria wins then I guess
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>Arcoscephale Waiting for 2h file
Asphodel 2h file received
Eriu 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Jotunheim 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received


this game is cursed.
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I need a 24h extension because I have to deal with Abysia's shit, and it will take me at least 23 hours and 59 minutes to do so.
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>>159204614
wow somebody is attacking you in a wargame? what a dick.
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About to join in game as a Asphodel, never played them or any other cancer nation before.

What to expect and any small tips?
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>>159220159
Expect shit late-game and solid early-midgame.

Protip: buy (or craft) 2 slave matrices and 1 master matrix, give master matrix to a H3 dude and slave matrices to any 2 mages (preferably undead) to get H4 and cast mass regeneration for all your undead units on the battlefield. Alternatively, just boost H3 to H4 with artifacts, but that's slow as fuck.
>>
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty

Further shilling.

Really I just want a chance to play a game with thrones.dm

It looks fun.
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>>159220274
Cant they just prophet a H3?
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>>159220352
Fine, fine, I'll join as Abysia or something.
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>>159220274
Thanks that's pretty solid, I never used matrix for priests.

>>159220582
Aye I though about propheting my first carrion lord for H4 early.
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>>159220582
Sure, you can just prophet a Carrion Lord, but you still want to have mass regen caster in all armies.
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>>159220582

That's also doable, but you're generally going to want to have more than one army.
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>>159220673
True.
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>tfw had nothing to send to the arena so had to send whatever I had

Wish we got some forewarning on arena matches.
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>>159220751
It's not like arena matches matter for anything but bragging rights anyway.
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>>159220839
Better Arena gives you a random artifact for every win, and the winner is not obligated to fight again.
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>>159220743
>>159220673

Note, mind you, that the Mass Regen effect is MR Negates Easily.

Which is fine for chaff, but if you want to reliably get the effect on your dead centaurs, you'd best have the guy kitted with extra Pen gear.
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>>159221160
Just have Carrion Lord spam it 5 times in a row. It's great with skelespammers too, as it works on all undead units.
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>>159221160
Really? Hilarious. Is it the only MRnegates buff?
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>>159221373

Ermor and Lemuria's H3/4 stuff is MR Negates Easily as well.
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>>159221413
Ulm's earth antimagic buff has MRNE too. Maybe some other minor buffs.
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>>159221373
MA/LA Ulm's national antimagic spell is MR Negates as well.
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Don't suppose anyone has eyes on my territory to see what happened re kailasa army?
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>>159221483
Fuck you 4chan I know for a fact I filled that name field
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>>159221478
>>159221445
Funny that Ulm's soldiers become more resistant to magic by being extremely dense.
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>>159221262

Yeah. As I said, fine for chaff. Sagittarians are MR14 though. Meaning that, with five casts, you're getting about a third of them buffed.

Which is unfortunate, because they get the most benefit from it.

If you add an Eye of the Void, that jumps to just over a half for your five casts. Eye of the Void and a Rune Smasher? Three quarters. You can also get similar effects by increasing your communion size, for the +1 pen per two path levels. If you get a Lizard Shaman province, you fort the shit out of it right away and defend it with your life.

Scales have an effect as well. The difference between spamming it in Magic 2 and Drain 2 is noticeable. Something to bear in mind when planning your wars.
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>>159220274
>give master matrix to a H3 dude
Won't work if he doesn't have paths.
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>>159221851
While correct, the only H3 that Aspho has is a Carrion Lord. And he has D/N or something.
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>>159221483
you're a nervous one, aren't you?
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>>159221914

Well, he might be summoning Bishop Fish or something, I guess?

But yeah. Carrion Lords mean No Problem.
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>>159221976
Very! First time as hinnom so I'm hoping to at least survive long enough to get to fun stuff.
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>>159222348
>admitting that you're playing a nation for the first time
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>>159222348
well, from what I could see, he took an empty province.
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>>159222508
he's also spent the past few threads posting about how he's fucked up his expo

surprised nobody else attacked him desu
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>>159222508
it's a scrub game bruh
I haven't even tested my innovative strategy in SP
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>>159222547

Probably because pretending to be pathetically weak is a standard Malakal tactic.
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>>159222693
is losing your shit to a few guhyaka also a malakal tactic
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>>159222547
You could at least read the last time I corrected you.
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>>159222730

Probably not. But the "Oh I am so weak and have so little land and no income and my research is terrible and this nation isn't as good as I was expecting" spiel is enough to make people paranoid.
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>>159222348
>>159222508
>>159222525
>>159222547
>>159222693
>>159222730
>>159222740
>>159222827
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you guys are idiots, malakal never plays the same nation twice and he already played hinnom in a previous game

t. not malakal
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>>159222693
>>159222827
So what's the issue? Malakal isn't actually a very good player, he's rather average, but he spends a lot of time diplomancing which usually lets him get to a strong position before going to war (mainly because 90% of players don't diplomance which means they don't have a big picture).
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>>159223168
t. Malakal
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>>159221483
TRICKED! i didnt attack you at all

i merely said that to see if yomi or fomoria would attack me from behind
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Correct response to Malakal threat:
If someone invites you to the Steam chat, and you confirm that player is Malakal, you just invite everyone else in the game to the Steam chat and kill him on turn 12. Easy.
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>>159223278
that really rustled my jimmies
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>>159222693
>pathetically weak
Nah, that's a failure of diplomacy too.

You want people to think you're behind a couple of people (more in a large game), but still near the top. Strong enough to be a bad idea to fight without a coalition, but not important enough to start a coalition against.

Malakal doesn't say he's weak - he says other people are stronger.
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>>159223073
I've made no secret of who I am.
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Why are you not attacking this >>159223842 fag right now?

If you don't remove him in the next 20 turns, you're all idiots. I was in 2 (TWO) games with him, and all other players thought they're some hot shit and lost like a bunch of pussies in the end. Either you get your shit together now, or you lose the game in the long run.

Make your choice.
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>>159223971
i am watching my neighbor's troop movements and don't want to commit yet
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>>159224025
That's what faggots in those two games said before they lost.
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>>159223971
>>159224067
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I will admit that I'm kind of amused at the sudden paranoia and panic at the name malakal.
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Should I intentionally expand poorly while playing a powerful nation so I my neighbours dont see me so dangerous and dont rush me?
Or expand the best I can so they are scared? Dont really know if this works at all.

Asking... uh... for a friend.
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>>159224908
You're probably playing with scrubs who will go AI after the first loss anyway, so do whatever.
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>>159224908
Always get the best expansion possible
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>>159220352
Hexawyr is a big map
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>>159226372
for you
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>>159226372
We don't play on maplets brah
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>>159224908
Unless you are Joe Esposito levels of the best around, always expand as best as you can.
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Hey Atlantis, have you been paid?
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So Ulm, precisely how would you like me to respond to you spamming Bane Venom Charm Poison Golems?

Should I horror spam all you provinces in exchange? Or just horror spam the people making the golems, if you know what I mean?

As an aside, you probably shouldn't have chosen to do that to a province that literally required teleportation to reach. Sort of gave away whose responsible ya know.
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>>159228925
pay up
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>>159227208
I have been paid 250 gold. I am still expecting the other 1050 but I do understand it can be hard to get while ghosts rush you. Whoever is jewing me out of the other half of gems plus gold better watch their backs though.
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>>159231052
It's Abysia
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>>159226372

It is. Which is why it's an 18 player game.
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>>159231341
Abysia is the prime suspect but I'll avoid finger pointing for now.
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>still haven't been paid
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TC are you here. I'm moving northeast of your snake next turn. It's the only province I can expand to. I suggest make use of your amphibiousness and enter the water.
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I still need 24h extension in BiggestMeme for my epic fight, please.
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>>159232761

Yo Machaka.

Just a heads up, I'm moving into 208. Spotted you on the far side of it.
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>>159232761
>>159233484
you know you guys can just friend each other in steam right? the names are all in the thread....
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>>159233484
No problem. I'm not heading there.

>>159233571
So used to games with anons that I forgot about that.
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We need one more apprentice for the game and we will start real soon.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/312265672107250359/?ctp=3
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>>159235747
Why was oko removed?
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>>159236476
he admitted he was just posting for memes, he still has no clue how to play a PBEM and refuses to learn
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>>159236535
I think he's planning on playing
okofire: but 1 turn per day?
Emperor Point: sometimes more
okofire: but
Emperor Point: sometimes less
okofire: do you know that
Emperor Point: yes
Emperor Point: tho
okofire: since its you
okofire: I WILL FUCKING DO IT
Emperor Point: ?
Meaglin: wow
okofire: but i need teammate
okofire: since its team game
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>>159236672
>>159236535
tell him to learn how to PBEM, as soon as he shows proof he is able to do so I will add him back to the list
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>>159227693
Just a shot across the bows as a response to your previous horror spam threats.

No need to spam me with steam messages over it. Surely it wasn't that much of an inconvenience.

I assume that means we can conclude you now have blood 8, though?
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>>159232374
I paid my lewd tribute on time =(
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>>159237738
your cool ghostbut we have fight because the fates will us.
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>>159237057
aren't there instructions on Steam? it ain't fucking hard.
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Underwater nations were a mistake.
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>>159239436
Show me where R'lyeh touched you anon
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There, back home and double turned.
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>>159239121
it is for okofire
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>>159239436
>Take a videogame
>put it underwater

Is there a SINGLE instance of this being a good idea?
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>>159239880
Bioshock
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>>159239880
Bioshock
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>>159239967
>>159239972
>system shock UNDERWATER
>adds a ton of casual shit

great counterexample
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>>159239880
Ecco.
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>>159239880
System Shock
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>>159237072
The threats were in response to your threats about pop killing my provinces - i.e. what you're doing now.

That said, I'd rather avoid a snowball collision, especially considering we aren't even adjacent, which would make the whole thing super awkward. I won't do anything in retaliation unless I see the messages again, and am extremely certain it is poison golem teleporter cheese.

Also, I find it funny how often people overestimate my research. I don't even have an 8, while Ulm trolls around with construction 9 (thx Sauro for hiding graphs and then declaring X nation is ahead - god I hate that meme).

On the matter of horrors, most of your provinces seem to have the standard minimal PD, which lesser horror can clear. And we both know actual send horror would still lose to mass flight, weapons of sharpness, marble warriors, strength of giants ulmites.
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>>159239121
>>159239121
It's fucking easy, but he is pretending it's really hard because he doesn't even want to play and just wants some attention.

He asked several times how to play by email and several players told him how, then he answered stuff like "lel do i have to send a text?" or "lel only one turn per day?".

He is basically pretending to be retarded and vanheim likes feeding him, for some reason.
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>>159237072
As for the inconvenience, it gave me Nam flashbacks of losing a quarter of my cap population turn 3 or so. I mean, come on, I hadn't even recruited any Rephaim at that point.
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>>159240150
Pay me if you want graphs. Otherwise all I hear is bitching for a handout.
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I'm sending the admin of BiggestFattestMeme rays of misfortune and despair. May he never find a PBEM to play again in his entire life.
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>>159239967
>>159239972
Guess how I know you never played SS1 and 2?
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>>159240063
It's a good game, dude. Don't let nostalgia tell you that the SS games were better.

>>159240412
Someone's got the nostalgia goggles fastened tight.
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>>159239967
>>159239972
>>159240084
>>159240063
I'll grant you "good idea" but it wasn't an improvement.
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>>159240249
I don't care if you don't post graphs, but it's extremely annoying to hear you talk about how far ahead I am according to graphs.

Believe me. Honest. I won't give any evidence though.

Had that happen to me before. Spoiler: the dude with the graphs was lying through his teeth.
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>>159240514
Not them but I played SS1 and 2 after Bioshock, you stupid faggot, maybe you got the shit taste fastened tight.
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>>159240623
If it makes you feel better, Sauro is Kazi so he's a VERY reliable source.

I would prefer if he posted the graphs, though.
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>>159235747
Some new guy joined up just now.
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>>159240514
>Bioshit is better than SS
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>>159240357
Fuck u its already 36h turns do you need 48h or 60h. I should force host right now desu
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>>159241470
I'm glad that you're irrelevant in this game, and you don't need much time to do your insignificant turns, but this is not the case in my situation.
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What happens if someone gets charmed in the arena?
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>>159240239
You've never recruited any rephaim.
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>>159241721
I'm pretty sure someone tried this once. They just kept going into new fights un-charmed until the charmer ran out of blood slaves, if I remember correctly.
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>>159241876
Wasn't that sending them to hell?
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>>159242016
Oh you're right. I completely misremembered. Charming would be interested.
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>>159241721
He returns to his old province, under new management, iirc.
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>>159242016
yes

>>159241721
They return to the province that they were sent from and fight the defenders as a member of their new side.
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>>159241840
Ba'al and Melqart are both Rephaites

I only have never recruited Rephaite Warriors.
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>>159241559
Abysia 2h file received
>Arcoscephale Waiting for 2h file
Caelum 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
>Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
Pelagia 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
>Ulm Waiting for 2h file
Ur 2h file received

Come on those arent even remotely relevant. Both abysia and caelum already sent theirs and they are the most "relevant" ones. Here ill help you out on how to do yur turnz gud.
1.- Check your turn as soon as you get it
2.- Think about your turn/s and what to do on them throughout the day
3.- Redo your turn once you get back to your computer

Its pretty simple senpai. Its a bit wierd that a newbie would join a memegame as their first pbem but don't worry about any experience is good experience.
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>>159242362
I'm Caelum, you dimwit. I did this turn in 5 minutes because I had (and still have) work to do, as I didn't want to rely on an incompetent admin (you) who can't even press Ctrl+F and find two posts where I asked for extension or find a sub for/set AI a staling player. Again, sorry for defying your expectations and not being a basement-dwelling weeb who has a giant folder of smug anime girls.

Now, if you'd be so kind to do your actual job and give a 24h extension (which, as the professional such as yourself should know, IS NOT the same a changing the hosting interval), I'll send a revised turn where I DO DOM4 THINGS instead of just crafting a few items and moving a single stack. No pressure though.
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>>159239880
Silent Hunter
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>>159243091
xd
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>>159241002
actually he's part of nick's group, we still need 1 more student
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>>159243428
Thanks. Though you only had to extend once. I'm generally okay with 36h turn timer.
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>Ghosts are sieging Agartha's cap
Literally how?
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>>159244828
it's a raiding force, he's just walking over PD, relax I got 2 other forts to make sure I make income
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>>159245116
>Degenerate Doujinist

Isn't that Jomon?
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>>159245273
my god's name is ShindoL so i'm the doujnist here
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Which spells are the strongest chaff clear in the game? Let's say bog standard chaff, humans with 10 hp, 10 prot,10 mr and no resist.
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Have you guys considered making a discord? It's pretty neat.
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>>159246565
Oh and I forgot one thing; spells that doesn't kill your own troops as well.
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>>159246565
Depends on time frame. Firestorm/Acid Storm will clear all of them. Assuming that 10 prot is from equipment, acid storm will kill them faster.

>>159246649
There's a Dominions discord already.
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>>159246649
god no, steam chat is enough of a headache
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>>159246565
Literally fucking everything.
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>>159150305

This is great news for all Empire-loving citizens of the Empire.

Furthermore, I do believe that Ermor should most definitely be destroyed further.
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>>159246682
Oh. In that case it depends on how many enemies there are. If you need to get rid of literally infinite mooks, then your best bet is to immunize your own troops against your clear and go for a big battlefield one that does have friendly fire. If you can't do that, high pen master enslave is the only enemy-only truly battlefield wide clear.

If you have smaller numbers, then stuff like living x, flame storm, niefel flames, etc all work better.

Also, in general you're not going to be looking at the entire spell list, since you'll be using just the stuff that you have the paths for.
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>TIL Malakal's steam icon is the Yellow Sign of Hastur
>It's not yellow
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>>159246684
What's the discord?
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>>159246821
Somehow I believe you're misusing "literally".
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>>159247927
Figuratively speaking, yes.
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>>159235747

I'll join up senpai
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>only 4 nations sent champions
>arena won by skelespammer
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>>159249106
>D nations everywhere
I expected it to be the skelespammer bowl in there so I didn't send shit.
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>>159249106
>>159249660
>t. jealous fleshlings
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>>159246910
So counting Cool and Malakal that makes at least 3 cultists among the Dominions vets.
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>>159251092
>illuminati have inside agents
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If I teleport to my sieged fort, will the caster get inside unscathed?
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>>159251783
Yes. Though if the opponent storms the same turn he will participate in that battle.
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>>159249106
All of my decent choices are busy right now, and I didn't want to lose a research mage pointlessly to skellyspam.

Hopefully there'll be another one later where I can compete properly.
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hinnom this is seriously what you're delaying your invasion for?

i guess your ally will have to pick up the slack
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>>159254380
Its certainly innovative.
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>>159254380
Eh. If he's got he flaming arrows for them it's not bad. He might not have regular indy archers.
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>>159254380
wolf tribe best tribe
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>>159254638
>not bone tribe
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Well, I tried. I can probably mess him about for a little while longer with tarts and jazz, but I doubt I can actually stand against him if he decides to commit to crushing me. You guys really need to make an effort if you don't want to lose the game.

As soon as I saw Mass Flight cast I knew this was gonna be a wash.
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>>159255034
>That one Androleth deeply regretting his life choices
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>>159255034
>all those non-commander tarts
>no commander tarts
I hope those are just the ones with bad afflictions and your actually useful tarts are just doing something else.
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>>159255181
They are, though I've had some atrocious luck in that respect.
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>that moment in a prolonged, even war when you overanalyze your movements for the whole day 'cause you fear any mistake might lead to a break and losing the war in the long run

I'm commiting too much to this game
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>>159255793
Or maybe you arent committing enough.
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>>159255793

>not analyzing your turns in you dreams

You aren't dedicated enough, anon.
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>>159254380
Typical Malakal.

He sucks at Dom4 but is amazing at diplomonstering. Without the aid of the six allies he's brought in, he'd be useless.

Eagerly awaiting the posts two weeks from now with players desperately begging someone to attack Hinnom before he gets the last throne.
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Fomoria 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
>Kailasa Waiting for 2h file
Machaka 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Yomi 2h file received

Monkeyman! Stop diplomonstering and send your turn!
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>>159255034
>159 Jaguar warriors
whew. thx Mictlan.
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>>159258554
He's simply too afraid to face me and my disciplined tribal archers of destruction.
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>>159257217
Malakal isn't actually bad at the tactics of the game - he's vastly above the domg standard (consider that 3 people from domg couldn't beat him fighting together, despite their cumulative power crushing him in every graph)

Its just his diplo is far and away the spookier part. In a standard game, I'd be afraid of Malakal above all else. In a no-diplo game, there are several other players I'd put higher.
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>>159260709
That was my favorite part too
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>>159261271
>consider that 3 people from domg couldn't beat him fighting together, despite their cumulative power crushing him in every graph
Was this peace and harmony, or some other game?

Also, you can't just directly sum graphs to compare a single player against a coalition. Having multiple people means your research is split (i.e. weaker spells) and your armies will be significantly less coordinated. There's the possibility of people in a coalition not giving it their full effort too, whereas a single person obviously has no such issues.
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>>159261271
>In a no-diplo game, there are several other players I'd put higher.
who in particular?

>>159261271
>(consider that 3 people from domg couldn't beat him fighting together, despite their cumulative power crushing him in every graph)
Uhhhhhh you don't add up research my dude. Also, graphs downplay the power of blood nations by a fair bit, not just because blood slaves don't show up under income, but also because they tend to get you more elite units.
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>>159257217
That's Kami, though. Like, he's the most honest, up-front player in /domg/

He posts his tactics publicly, sometimes with screenshots of where he's moving to, while seeking advice for ongoing games.
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>>159261271

t. Malakal
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>>159264235
but, like, actually this time.
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>>159261271
>In a no-diplo game, there are several other players I'd put higher.
Who's your no-diplo scariest? sum1? nicknight? I know that nick goes hard on diplo too.
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>>159262109
I wasn't adding up research, Ulm, BL, and Ys all had higher research than Abysia on their own.
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>>159264725
Sy, Sum1won (especially, I imagine, in his own mod), vava grey, could maybe find some others.
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>>159264725
Coolstory. He's much scarier when he isn't allowed to use diplo.
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>>159255034
Honestly, the time to deal with me passed the tipping point once I took Mictlan's crap. I have more gem income than the rest of everyone else combined (without counting Nexus) and a . . . existent blood economy.

Squirm all you like, it makes it more entertaining (and I know you personally aren't at fault, considering I think you're geographically the farthest person from me period), but ultimately resistance is futile.

SUBMIT TO SQUID
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>>159264768
>telling the tale of how Abysia valiantly fought by itself against 3 other nations while having less everything

First of all Abysia was the biggest power with the most land and most units IIRC during that time, despite his mediocre research.

Secondly, he was hardly alone. I've been told that he was gifted a lot of gems and path boosting items (by a nation whose identity I won't divulge since that was part of the agreement) which is how he got Mother Oak and then Gift of Health up asap, and also fog warriors mind you.
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>>159265496
>I took Mictlan's crap

Pretty much everything. The 150 jaguar warriors is both amusing and absolute bullshit at the same time.
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>>159265770

Not "gifted" I traded for those. With my future enemies mind you.

Only gems I got were from Man. And that was 2 turns before the game ended. Bought some more gems. Sold a lot more tho as I was gold starved. Mari bought off me a lot of pearls for 20g each.
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>>159265958
Does he actually have a bless, or is it just funny?
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>winning ETA: 1 turn
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>>159265770

His research was fairly reasonable throughout, actually. Certainly not leading the pack, but not bad.
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>>159266125
>Malakal responds instead of guy who was mysteriously defending and praising malakal but was totally not malakal

Hmm, really makes you think.
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>>159266161
My current bless is Regeneration, +8 HP, +5 Undying, +2 MR, +50% Nightvision, 10 Fire Resistance, +2 Morale, +1 Attack, +3 Precision, and Air Shield 40%.
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>>159267609
That's not a very good jaguar bless. Why'd you even bother to steal them with that?
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>>159267814
Have you *seen* my land melee units? I wanted something that wouldn't just derp around the moment it encountered anything in excess of size 3.

Could have done without enslaving all the slaves though.
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>>159268045
You should have offered a farming arrangement with mictlan.
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take your rubbadub turns quick before i have to go to work
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Congrats, Sceleria.
>>
>decide to gamedev
>decide I should make something akin to Dominions
>add a feature here
>change a mechanic there
>by the end of it it's not Dominions anymore at all

Oh well.
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>>159269375
Turn 1 was on October 3rd.
Month later Sceleria wins on turn 60.

We sure kept nice pace.
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hinnom... we dont have much time... i... i must go soon
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>>159269375

Thanks, that quadbless of yours was getting me worried there for a second. I was right about having more skellies than you though, aside from that little stretch in the beginning I had a pretty good production going on all game. I think I like Sceleria, just as fun as Ermor without all the pain of being ganged up on.
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>>159268045
What's the E.T.A on victory here? Do I need to track someone down to sketch up a smug Basalt Queen already?
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So, is anyone close to winning Olathe, or does everyone just feel like they're losing? Because this game is giving me cancer.
>>
Oh hey, I forgot to post graphs for Ekwipt. That ended too.
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>>159272349
What, already?
>>
Now that your games are done, you should join CastInTheNameOfBob
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Looking for a list of the shittiest, most useless units that the AI should never recruit, but does anyways. Any suggestions, preferably beyond that already in AInorec?
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>>159272482
I took a bunch of thrones simultaneously, some of which were not forted.
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>>159272616
Everything in MA Atlantis but war shamblers and lobsters.
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>>159266596
>>159270769
I had a hunch that was you, Sceleria, but I hardly saw you all game so I wasn't sure. Congratulations on the win.

I didn't do so well this game, but somehow I managed to survive until the end. I probably would have done better if most of my provinces weren't mountains and a swamp, but mostly it's on me. I underestimated both Ermor and Nazca, and lost a lot of troops to the former and fought a war that didn't go anywhere with the latter. It didn't help that I'm still learning the game.

I'll get there one day.
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>>159271567
Whoever started this madness set the throne requirement to 45 needed to win.

I'm . . I think I'm like halfway there? Might just be fucking faster to domkill the world with enchanted forests desu.
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>>159273263
AT is the same. If the two biggest nations merged, they would have less than 1/3 of the total throne points needed.
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Graphs.

Early game -
Expanded well, ran into Mari, took a brief break to finish forts then invaded Mari. TC invaded Man more or less successfully, but suffered heavy losses to Man's ghost king, and then got owned by Gath and went AI. I took advantage of this after conquering Mari and took over Man. I should have done this sooner, but I liked Man's awake ghost king build and fighting spirit.

Shortly after this, Pythium invaded me with his tribless hydras and for a little while I thought I was losing. Apparently I had severely overestimated him. He didn't use his mages against my SCs very well and also played very scared - his foul vapors + howl + hydra blobs definitely could have beaten my conventional armies and the fear aura on the hydras meant that while my SCs would inflict casualties, they couldn't actually win battles.But he didn't actually push with them, and he lost a bunch of provinces very quickly once I got tomb oracles deployed and started hitting him along our wide border, to the point that I thought he was baiting me in. Eventually, I did manage to reach cons 7 and dropped a golem (no fear!) onto one of his hydra blobs and then he went AI.

Gath then invaded me after finishing off TC, followed shortly by Arco after finishing off Ulm, but both were too late and used WAY too few mages. Gath had Yeddeonis sitting in his forts as lab rats and didn't use them in fights. Without mage support he couldn't really hurt my SCs or fight my mage-ball armies. Arco had a cool pretender (cyclops with air that he used for mass flight), but invested a lot into troops over infrastructure for more mages and also left two thrones unforted. He also didn't really use communions, so he missed out a lot on his national strengths.

I didn't really fight Jomon except for on the very last turn, but he took a rainbow in a difficult research game on a nation with natively poor expansion to boot, so he was basically playing catch-up from the getgo. He also never had a UW fort.
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>>159273430
When I host the next Archaea game (which will be soonish) I vow three things.

First, 300% settings is cancer of the fort spam variety, and shall NEVER HAPPEN.
and Second, winning by thrones will be easier than winning by domkilling the world. As R'lyeh.
Three, it will be summod, and won't happen until Sum1won makes Oceania a better nation than indies, so that we can actually fill up our waters this time.
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>>159275450
Demon sharks. They'll be op.
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>>159275450
>make oceania better than indies
Maybe. The weird thing is that MA Oceania actually has better stuff than EA, but fewer wins. I'll maybe implement a toned down version of Ohlmann's changes for EA, and IDK what for ma. It's pretty bafflingly bland design, but unlike for most nations, I don't see a theme that could use substantial expansion.
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>>159275549
>>159275450
Demon sharks, cheaper palisades, and kelp elementals.
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>>159275772
MA probably has fewer wins cause EA doesn't have to deal with the bullshit that is MA Pelagia.
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>>159274840
What SCs were these?
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>>159277612
tomb oracles and golems
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>>159277681
Wait what mods were this game running?
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>>159278290
summod
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>>159278290
Those are in vanilla
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>>159278346
yeah, Tomb Oracles are FANTASTIC
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>>159278346
I realized that I was mixing up these two reports >>159270769 >>159274840, which led to the confusion.
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Of all the UW nations is Riley the one that actually wins the most?
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>>159282273
I would expect one of the half-UW nations like LA Atlantis to have a higher win rate, but Riley's fluff is pretty cool, so they probably have the highest play rate of any UW nation.
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>>159283508
Doesn't save them in EA.
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>join muhbalance
>didnt sign up on steam
>was told id get kicked out for not signing up
>forget about it
>muhbalance starts and im in it with my shitty test pretender

we did it reddit
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>>159288670
Thank you for reminder bye.
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>>159289369
np remember:

proper planning prevents piss poor performance

always look before you leap!
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Where is the rest of my money Mari?
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Artea, are you here?
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>>159290589
I'm sending the rest of the 1k this turn. The war is starting to go in our favor, and we've trapped one of their armies.
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>>159289672
I doesn't when your god gets randomly muted by a random research event
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>>159292114
>2016
>taking a pretender god for your nation
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>>159291435
Agartha is winning the war! I fear that I must surrender to them before too long =(

You, on the other hand, have 4 provinces. Still doing better than Ulm, though!
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>>159292339
How any does Ulm have?
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>>159292438
One besieged cap
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>>159292858
One 2000 pop besieged cap.
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>>159292339
I didn't fight so I could won, I fought so you would lose.
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Therodian Thred.
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>>159295195
Ermorian Thred.
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>>159274840

>Arco lost

Feels good, man.
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Sorry for delay everyone, early night combined with britbong timezone.

Also, Yomi, can see what's going on in 20 so congrats! However, be aware that the force to your west that was sitting on the throne just moved out, I assume to come fight you. I'll try to keep him busy with my TRIBAL LEGIONS.
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>>159299547
And then I suddenly realised his garbage scales are giving me supply issues. God dammit giants stop being huge greedy shits.
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>>159270769
Congratulations on your win.
I kept severely underestimating Ermors quad blessed sacreds and suffered heavily for it.
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>>159299991
>>159273248
>>159269375

Thanks again, everyone, and GG to you all.
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>>159300201
Now that it's over I can ask, did you genuinely make a mistake attacking me or were you just buying time?
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>>159300584

It was a precautionary measure. I was going to hit any army gathering near that throne before I could fill it with enough bats to last in a siege for a while if needed. Did you intend to attack with it, or were they really on the move?
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>>159300753
Really on the move. Pathological aversion to backstabbing is a running thing for me and I'd had no issues with you.
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>>159300857

I was once the same way, I trusted people in this game, then I got backstabbed, again and again, and now I can't help but consider everyone my enemy right from the start of every new game.
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>>159301080
I can't really say it's not the right attitude, just one I'm so far unable to get the knack of.
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Arcoscephale 2h file received
>Asphodel Waiting for 2h file
Eriu 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Jotunheim 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

Jesus Christ not again.
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>>159272154
This. Horrible game for everyone.
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>>159270769
what was your pret build, if you don't mind asking?
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>>159303480

Imprisoned, Order 2, Prod 2, Cold 3, Growth 2, Misfortune 1.

Wanted to play around with a teleporting SC pretender that could WoD, RoS, Phoenix Pyre + Soul Vortex/Drain, Undead Mastery, etc. Didn't really get a chance to though, which is a shame.
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>Finally realizing that heat 2 dominion makes rivers impassable all year round

Just scrub things.
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oh boy. monkey, have you actually sitesearched anywhere at all or is your luck just that shitty?>>159299705
pretty sure kailasa has the same issues now, hurray for ravenous (but not actually ever hungry) demons
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>>159305052
I've been site searching a lot and I've basically found nothing.
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>>159305217
Early Age my ass.
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>>159305217
>>159305908

Hehehe I am showered with gems, guess it all went my way. Don't worry you will notice soon enough with my summon armies.
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>>159304710

Your design was flawed.

The demilich can't hold a staff of storms so he is vulnerable to turn1 attack by fliers with magic weapons (so any counter thug enemy may want to employ).

The chassis itself is also very shitty for that as it has extremely low stats. It can be killed off by a random evo easily.
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Joined the steam group the other day and now get these announcements. What the fuck is a "blitz"?
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>>159307503
t. Coolstory
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>>159310902
Fast paced game played in one session rather than over a few months.

Usually has a lot less players and uses direct connect rather than PBEM.
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>>159310272

True, but all things have counters. There is no single strategy that can beat everything else. As for a single flying thug, I could slap on Wraith Crown and have 15 extra targets for said thug to hit aside from the Demilich. Hell, if I really wanted to I could Gateway in an army of skeletons using a Grand Thaumaturg along with the Demlich. All I really would need is a turn or two to get off the needed spells to have the Demilich do its job. Whether it's WoD/RoS and then Returning, or Undead Master/Master Enslave, or Phoenix Pyre and Soul Drain. A couple of turns that could be bought by 15 skeletons. In any case, you're also not looking at the element of surprise of revealing the demilich and smashing an opponent's important army or using the Demilich as a trap by teleporting it to a province that the enemy is likely to attack thus getting off the first turn or siege defense. It has great utility, imho, and just because there's a way to counter it doesn't mean that it's necessarily flawed as you put it.
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>>159310941
Not in that game, broheim.
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How do I use gems?
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>>159311608

It is deeply flawed because your solution either relies on spending even more gems to work (items you will keep losing, spells you will need to keep casting, armies you will be losing) or the spells you wanted to cast work badly with the selected chassis.

Soul drain? Chassis wont hold for long due to low base hp, you cant 'ovearheal' enough to tank for several turns. Even in high dominion. Most likely wouldnt be able to cast mass enslaving spells AND return with the army either. Literally cant step out of your dominion (a solid chassis could risk it more if it had good prot and hp).
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>>159311967
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>>159311967
First and foremost, to craft items and summon mages that grant you more paths. The more paths you have, the more diverse your late-game options are.

Then for everything else. Almost never to summon shit units like ogres or horned sneks unless you really need them (e.g. if you're being killed early-game).
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Niefel, I'm taking 82 this turn because it's in my cap circle. Please, don't move there accidentally.
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>>159312071
I'm not supposed to summon? That kinda sucks.
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>>159311923
It's my brand new meme. You post it when someone displays awful diplomancing.
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>>159312071
But I love getting stupid amounts of sneks and ogres.
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>>159312165
You're supposed to summon, just not the chaff the exact equivalent of which can be recruited in every province for gold.

Good commander summons include: troll king's court (free earth access + good units), sea king's court (free water access + units that can go UW if the need arises), mound fiend (free D3) etc.

Good chaff summons include: corpse man construction with storm spool and lightning rod (1 air gem for 6 good blockers), awaken vine ogres (great HP units for a good price) etc.

Good elite unit summons are usually national, like ozelotls (sacred flying demon jaguars that rip face), brood of garm (sacred wolves with fear auras) etc.
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>>159274840
That's pretty much how it went down.

I had really good expansion before colliding with Ulm, making him lose expansion party, which was enough reason for me to start early war.

War was mostly huge blobs of crossbow men chasing each other, with minimal mage support. Even with my constant losses, I kept taking territory as I could pump out armies every turn with production 2 (everyone else had sloth 2 I think) and high income.

Because of poor use of my Cyclop as early SC, waiting for research and Agarthas promised backup (that never came), war took far too long and as I finally took over Ulm with flying army along over 500 indy crosbows, Pythium was basically dead.

Afterwards made an half-heartedly attempt to attack Agartha, but I didin't have any real answear against SCs and forts in every other province.

Special mention to Jomon, that barely did anything at all during the whole game. I spend half of game trying to persuade him to join into attack against Agartha, offering an role of taking over his huge water area, he finally made his move....
On the last turn, he took one water province from tiny lake that I had instead.

It was my first time as Arco and I will certainly choose them again when possible as I liked their playstyle.

Btw, does anyone have summod link for finished games? I could not find it anywhere.
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>>159312231
That's pretty childish, but I'm okay with that.
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>>159312017

Sceleria demands temples be built outside of forts because it needs as many indie priests as possible, because of this my dominion nearly covered half the map by the end of the game, meaning I could use my Demilich to hit anything within that area safely. As for your claim that I'm losing resources to use the Demilich, well you're always using resources, sometimes more effectively sometimes less, depending on your situation. If I go by your logic, then your suggestion of using a Staff of Storms is also wasting those resources, hell, casting battle magic like Shadow Bolt is wasting resources. See, the problem with your line of thinking is that you are a theorycrafter, you crunch the numbers and if they don't look good, you discard that idea. You don't look at the possible utilization of things in a real game environment, let alone actually try those ideas out in a real game. Your thought process is limited and boring.
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>>159312071
This reminds me why I hate late-game and very much prefer early and mid game.

The way you distribute your research matters a lot more, choosing what spells to cast is generally more important instead of throwing a hodge-podge of every evo and buff in the game, individual tactics stand out more, gems are used more sparingly so no millions wolves and birds forts, etc.
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I just want to take a moment to thank sum1 for making all const0 earth weapons AP. I'm pretty sure I can effectively thug on turn 2 now.
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>>159312954
Sword of sharpness, axe of sharpness, stinger?
Pretty sure they were already AP.
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>>159313315
I think I had them mixed up with enchanted sword and shit then.
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>>159313442
If the average Dominion player is a 10, how would you scale the different AIs compared to a player?
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>>159313525
Average dominion player is pretty shit at late-game, and prone to going AI/staling after the first defeat, so I give 10 to all AIs just for consistency.
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>>159313574
AIs aren't that good at late-game either. All my games so far ended up with them stalling while my dominion spread, until it kills them.
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>>159313525
0'5, 0'75, 1, then AI gets free stuff as handicap so it can't be compared to humans anymore because it has more resources for the same amount of provinces. To show up this uncomparability i would say the levels in there are 1 + i, 1 + 2i and 1 + 3i.
So its absolute value is still below 10 but in a whole different axis.
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>>159314128
So playing against AIs is not a good training to play against humans, got it.
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>>159314251
It's good for practicing expansion and testing out innovative strategies, but yeah when it comes to actual fighting it's not good practice.
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>>159314251
Only to learn the basics, like recruiting and expanding. Usual tactics to abuse AI wont work against players, so you learn bad habits.
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>>159314330
You are implying there are strategies that arent innovative.
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>>159314480
Yes, I am.
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>>159314603
>>159314480
Wait a second, you two are implying that innovative strategies exist. And that's false.
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>>159314714
I once made an entire army out of pygmies.
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>>159314759
If someone did ir before, it's not innovative anymore. Maybe it was innovative when you did it, but making it once turns it into a not innovative strategy.
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>>159272154
Besides being meme'd by ermor the game isn't going half bad, it doesn't help though that half the players are defacto stalling at this point or just sending in minimal effort turns
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>>159316034
I'm just spending my time fighting two nations at once and somehow not losing despite doing literally everything wrong.
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>>159304710
your god idea is cute just goign to say the dermlich is not a good SC chassis. Thankfully sceleria is pretty self sufficent but you would have been better off using a lich if you wanted to use those kinda of shennigans even if it meant less paths over all
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>>159290589
yo fishies, where you moving next in the pond?
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>>159304710
Well, you got to use it to murder my sacreds with wither bones at that underwater throne fort.

(I was expecting just more banes and skellies and stormed with only about half my troops. By the time blood vengeance offed the demilich, there wasn't enough sacreds left to clear all the Scelerian skellies :sad:)
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>>159312143
No worries, we are gentle giants and leave cap rings to their rightful owners.
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>>159316034
Like who?
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>>159317547
Mictlan, Johuntheim, Ulm is AI and still fairly large, Abysia is AI and fairly large, Vanheim I can't relaly tell what he's doing and seems to be doing very little.
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Fomoria do your fucking turn.
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>>159315415
So I guess a secret is not a secret if you tell it to another person, it's only a secret if YOU and you alone know it.
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Abysis what the fuck do you think you are doing?
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>>159318802
as in could you kill ulm already?
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>>159318165
I went to sleep at 6 am waiting for you niggers to do your turns.
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>>159318454
You finally get it. That's why you can tell secrets since when they tell you they aren't a secret anymore.
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>>159318454
I have a secret : I have a sadistic fetish despite being a nice person most of the time, and this is the reason I'm afraid to get in a relationship.
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>>159325265
There's nothing wrong with being a sadist, but you need to be clear with your partner what you want to do and make sure you have a safeword if you do anything beyond some light spanking.
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Does VARN still have a province somewhere? They haven't died yet.
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>>159325265
>>159326472
This, and also the kink community in general is very warm and welcoming, and will be happy to help you discover yourself safely.
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>>159312469
It's in the OP. I'll add it to the list, though.
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New modnations game when?
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>>159312469
Why didn't you ever communion up, btw? A lot of the time, it looked like your mages were just unscripted.
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>>159328575
Cause after the Ulm they were mostly unscripted.

And with Ulm the battles were short ones, so I just used gems to get fire arrows ect into play.
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Pelagian Thred.
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>>159331604
UW nations were a mistake
Especially because some of them like EA Atlantis are so close to being actually cool and decently strong nations but UW means that they have to be SHIIIITTTT
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Now that my Coral Queen was whupped the sorry competition and gotten a champions cuirass what should I do with her?
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Tell me a innovative strategy for MA.
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>>159331804
EA Atlantis is not shit.
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>>159331804
But foremost the problem is that you are shit anon. And can't utilize UW nations properly.
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>>159331828
Has whupped I meant.
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>>159331902
Quadbless Marignon. Buy a high inquisitor turn 1, pillage your cap on turn 2.
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>>159331902
mono bless mictlan scales
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>>159331902
Relly on flagellants.
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>>159331828
What's your bless?
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>>159332185
>bless
This is a natgen game, I didn't take no bless.
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>>159332285
>natgen
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP CALLING ANYTHING WITH NON VANILLA NATIONS NATGEN FUCK

NATGEN IS ONLY WITH THE NATION GENERATOR
MODNAT ARE MODNATIONS
CATACLYSM NATIONS ARE MODNAT OR JUST CATACLYSM

FUCK
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>>159332574
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>>159332574
>>159332285
you don't want to be associated with nation generator games anyway
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>>159332806
You didnt tell them we had 3 turns in october :^)
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>>159331902

Scales MA Ermor
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>>159333053
For what reason?
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>>159333125
Memes.
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>>159333125

Innovation
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>>159333220
>>159333224
Okay, done.
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How good are indie Gryphon Riders?

If I have N9 should I spam them to complement my cap only sacreds?
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>>159333772
They don't worth that much gold they cost.
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>>159317937
Not sure what pythium and xibalba are doing right now either, desu
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>>159334294
This guy is right, I didnt do shit since 20 ago. I fought xibalba, then ermor, then I was too weak to do anything.

After some turns of taking some of my provinces back, I finally can recruit units. Yey!

So I'll make do something anytime soon.
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>>159334628
So i'll maybe do something *
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>>159334294
Xibalba has been actively fighting ermor over 4 or so provinces for half the game now.
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>just got Black and White 2
>reminded of Dominions
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who am i supposed to attack in vanillacat
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>>159336235
me
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>>159336235
Grey is looking pretty big.
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>>159336829
t. Malakal
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>>159336235
Red.
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>>159336235
yourself
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>>159337514
Seconding this.

I bet they eat puppies or something.
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>>159339150
I can assure you all my puppy eating is carefully moderated.
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>tfw waiting for people to pick nations
Whoever suggested a snake draft is a dick.
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>>159337514
>>159339150
>>159339494
Is this just diplomonstering or is Red legitimately in the lead or something?
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>>159344887
I dont think I am in the lead. People saw I had a lot of horsemen and got spooked early on and right now this is probably grey thinking I am about to attack because I moved an army to our boarder. Which I only did because I saw he built a fort on his side.
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i, green, am the strongest player
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Pink here, I have troll seithberdersomethings and trolls/war troll to recruit.
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Almost forgot, I also have Ktonian Reanimators from 2 provinces.
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>>159346437
>>159346734
Instead of trying to make unfunny jokes on /domg/ you better played your 6 month SP routine instead, you scrubs.
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>>159346817
If you are so cool why dont you tell us where you are?
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>>159347059
The joke is on you, pal. My 6 month training regime is almost over and I can already get all 12 Elemental Royalty before the AI does. When I finally hit multiplayer you shall indeed find yoursef a small fish in a very, VERY large sea.

You're fucking domkilled, kid.
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>>159347575
Please don't cyberbully /domg/
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>>159345132
That fort is only there to hold the province, don't worry. It's across a river from you and I have Heat 3 dominion, so I couldn't attack you from it even in winter.

Your army worries me, but I'm not about to start a war if you aren't. Right now I just want to grab a couple of the remaining underwater regions, and maybe help finish off Black and Beige now that they're AI. I don't really know what's going on over there, though.
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>about to apologise for taking so long to do my turn, planning to do a double turn

Game name: RubbaDubDubNoobsandScrubs
Nation: Early Era Hinnom
Turn number: 24

Who's sent their turn in:
>Yomi Waiting for 2h file
Kailasa 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
>R'lyeh Waiting for 2h file
>Machaka Waiting for 2h file
Fomoria 2h file received


Also, Riley why you gotta' be so mean. :(
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>>159339494
t. Hillary "Malakal" Clinton
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>>159349297
Why are they gone AI? They get their shit wrecked?
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step on my island and i will slap your shit
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>>159349532

That went too far m8
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>>159349542
No idea. Some fighting has been going on over there, but I don't have many scouts.

I should probably summon some Black Servants one of these days.
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>>159349847
That's true. Clinton is good at dominions, not just diplomonstering.
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>>159349997
Source needed. I don't see her name anywhere in the spreadsheet.
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What if the illuminati is really being controlled by Hillary "Can't We Just Drone Him" Clinton?
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>>159349854
Must be nice to have usable gems. I got a shitload of water from the coral queen place but no water mages.
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>>159350053
t. Hillary
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>>159350180
With all the stuff coming out, I'm 90% sure Clinton plays Dominions. Probably enjoys blood magic and horrorsends, maybe thinks they're not as strong as they should be. Sometimes disappears for long periods of time, causing catastrophe if attacked.

Sound like any particular player?
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If Malakal is secretly Clinton, does that mean Okofire is secretly Trump?
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>>159351101
That would imply that Okofire managed to become a millionaire, which I just dont see happening.
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>>159351383
Trump didn't really become a millionaire, he was born rich. It's much easier to be rich than to become rich.
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>>159350664
Probably wishes for the days before the Send Horror nerf, when it sent twice as much Horror.
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>>159349480
Liberating the poor insufficiently-oppressed ichtyid citizens of Antediluvia from the cruel Jewish yoke ain't mean :(
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>>159350664
No! Rejakor is not like that! It's all lies! People just hate him because I'm better than others!
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P.S. I found a dominion score graph site for Rubbascrub. Anyone interested in seeing it?
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>>159352024
Do it nerd.
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Hello Fomoria, are taking your giants for a walk? It's not the tourist season around here yet.
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>>159352024
>dominion score

its nothing
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>>159351792
Honestly not super bothered because I very quickly realised I couldn't actually do anything I wanted to with that tiny pond. As long as this isn't going to turn into something more, i'm fine.
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>>159352739
>as long as this doesn't turn into something more, i'm fine
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>>159352739
My troops are all magic beings and I have all of one (1) land-capable magic leader. Don't worry about it.
Gonna be some turns yet before I can even think about pulling a fast one.

>>159352196
Ta-da!!
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>>159353085
was anybody paying attention to machaka this whole time?
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>>159353497
I border him, but he was very nice to me so he's essentially immune to me as a result.

I am really, really easy to diplomance as long as it happens early on, so him going 'oh whoops this is in your capcircle, here have it back' won him my allegiance.
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>>159353497
snek
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>>159353497
Given that graph, they likely just went with a dom9 awake expander desu.
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Best battle scripting for a N2 mage?
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>>159354168
it depends
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>>159354168
Swarm spam.
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>>159354215
Against mostly undead.
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>>159353497
speaking of machaka...

Fomoria 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
>Machaka Waiting for 2h file
R'lyeh 2h file received
Yomi 2h file received
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Oh dear. Appears Fomoria is attacking me now as well. This is turning interesting.
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>>159360765
I actually thought you were Yomi
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i guess that means i can turn around and fight yomi
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>>159360765
>>159360882
Though to clarify I would have preferred to attack you over yomi, I was just going to attack that place anyway.
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>>159361123
so are you going to fight yomi or hinnom now?
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>>159360882
>>159360897

;_;
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>>159361123
Nice job maintaining good relations with Yomi, CoolStory.
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>>159361187
Going to remove the jews from this fort anyway.
>>159361465
Everyone is convinced I am going to attack them whenever I move my guys anyway, not like it'll make much difference.
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apologies for those stealthy bandits of mine, machaka and hinnom, they just wanted to see the world.
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everyone decide who they're fighting please

im sick of moving my guys in and out of hinnom
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Don't flip out about the troops near the throne Mathosia, I just needed to make use of the lab that's there. If I wanted to attack you I'd be using a lot more skelechaff.
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And, as is traditional, here's Fomoria's bless.
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>>159362184
less innovative than monkeyman's, definitely
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>>159351847
Correct the Rejakor shill detected.
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>>159362184
>>159362443
It's pretty much the same bless as the guy who won the last small game. Kill him fast.
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>>159363252
What was that guy playing as?
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By the way does anyone know where Hinnom's cap is?
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>>159363747
47
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Can we extend the turn timer to 72 hours? Shit takes a while and real life stuff is limiting my playtime.
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>>159364240
Much obliged.
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>>159363747
It's the province named "Hinnom"
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that takes care of that

lost more pillarmen than I would've liked but they're not really the best thing for fighting undead/demons
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>>159364370
That would be real helpful if I had found it already. Before then its a ???
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>>159363347
Fomoria, D/W bless for morrigans.
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>>159365075
Be real nice if I actually had morrigans.
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>>159365323
you have a fuckton of sages, morrigans aren't that far up the research tree
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>>159364619
What was his bless since he is ratting out everyone else.
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>voice of tiamat the whole ocean
>one water site
Fuck, what a waste of gems.
Now how am I going to use my innovative amulet of the fish strategy???
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>>159364346
Normalfags should just leave tbqhfam
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>>159364619
>only 9 chariots
jews please
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>>159365504
I got other things to research man.
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>>159365559
probably the most innovative bless ive seen this game so far
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>>159364741
It's one of the provinces named "???"
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>>159365605
I have felt your pain anon. At least you have water elementals now to win every UW fight forever.
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>>159365768
eh standard hinnom scale build
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>>159365768
>S4 hinnom
not as innovative as my B7D4 dermlich but damn you tried son!
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>>159365856
No shit Sherlock.
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fyi after this turn im going to need the full 24hr to plan for the yomi siege on kailasa fortress

you picked the wrong monkey to mess with weeb
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>>159364619
Post your side plz. I don't want to have to wait for hinnom
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>>159366346
he got half my pillarmen
(in that army not total)and the markata i recruited to catch the chariots

the difference is that was his doomstack vs a middling force i pulled away from prepping for yomi
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>>159366346
I was fortunate enough to have a scout that witnessed the battle:
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>>159366513
Yeah, I just want to see how much gold/magic each side had on the field. I'm not in your game, just a spectator

>>159366560
Thanks my dude
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>>159366674
i lost a fort's worth of gold of pillarmen and maybe six gems

i'd be upset if yomi wasn't obv specc'd for blade wind because the pillarmen aren't going to be my best guys for this next fight
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okay i have to go to work

and i need a good amount of time to prep for yomi invading the fortress, too
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Why the fuck are my dumbshit druids not following their script? Is it because I haven't fought enough guys or something?
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>>159367836
Yes

Please don't complain. Both Yomi and Hinnom have their asses wide open for you. You are in a great position this game.
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>>159368184
I honestly was in a shit position until a couple turns ago. Fucking level 3 throne and the jews were blocking my other routes of expansion so I had to take a long ass trek around a river and accidentally take part of Riley's cap ring and destroy a land expansion force.
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>>159368482
Also we are rapidly entering the part of the game where I have the least multiplayer experience.
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>>159369326
you don't exactly need a ton of experience or skill when hinnom is already broken and yomi is completely distracted

take your pick
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>>159369445
Yeah but what about when I have to fight someone who isnt in a shit position?
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>>159369326
This is my first ever mutiplayer game and my second game period.
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>>159369786
looks like that'll be machaka

remember not to throw your biggest army at the guy first thing. see what spells/units he's got first and shit. this is a noob game so nobody should be incredibly good

the most important thing is to own a sizable amount of land, forts for researchers, etc. you have to expand and be the big guy to beat the big guy
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>>159369786
I would advise going after Yomi, and not just because he's my biggest threat right now. Hinnom is about to get eaten by either Riley, Kangz, or both now that he can't hold onto everything.

t. monkeys
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Also summon storm power is fucking shit. Needs a storm to work which requires a more powerful mage and gems to cast and is relatively far down the line. Sure summon water power needs you to be underwater but at least its useful for UW nations.
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>>159371939
and thank pankoman as t-strike spam would be even more annoying
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>>159371939
>things SPfags actually believe
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>>159372353
Its shit in comparison to the other summon X powers.
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>>159372475
except Air is much better than other elemental paths (except maybe Earth)
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>>159372475
I believe you wanted to say "it's less good in comparison to the other summon X powers", my teenage maximalist friend.
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>>159372475
Yeah. Just ignore this shit spell and use actual good pathboosts like Summon Water Power.
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>>159372631
Summon E-power is without a doubt the best, but that's mostly because it *also* gives +4 reinvig.
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>>159372847

+2, dude.
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>>159372679
Obviously its still good but it also has the worst drawbacks.
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>>159372847
I meant Air as a whole, not the booster.
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>>159372971
Then you're even more misguided than I thought, sweet child.

Don't worry, my dear, sweet birds and elves will sing their songs to you and you will understand.

In time.
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>>159373278

He was saying Air is good.
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>>159373526
Yes.
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Do remember to make a new thread this time.
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>>159374718
you're not the boss of me
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>>159374718
I'd rather we didn't if it's all the same to you.
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>>159272154
I've effectively won UW, you landlings will fall next
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>>159372907
I just tested it. Summon earth power gives +4 reinvig, not 2.
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whats the coolest thing youve seen happen in game
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>>159378070
8 water elementals vs 200 mermen was pretty fun.
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Are there supposed to be two Chilans, one slow to recruit and one one-turn recruit, or is summod glitched? 0.71 btw
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>>159380094
It's an unintended side effect of making them StR when there's no fort. When you do have a fort, the StR guys show up too.
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