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Night of the Final Day

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone. The first expansion pack, Darkness Evolved, launched on September 30th. The Steam version launched on October 28th.

Reminder to participate in this poll so we can get a gauge of our community skill: http://www.strawpoll.me/11431912 (embed) (embed) (embed)

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

To play on PC, simply use Steam and enjoy 60fps.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
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Friend list:
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ringon
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Mordecai has taken over
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivAao5L8kc
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What core fairy/swordcraft cards should I try to create?
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>>158961997
3 Spooky 5 Me
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Hosting a tournament
First prize is a $20 Amazon giftcard.
Send your steam account to [email protected] to enter, deadline is Friday, November 4th.

Also vote for how the format should be:

https://www.strawpoll.me/11541679
https://www.strawpoll.me/11541683
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>roll dragon in take two
>get no orb boosting cards
0-2 so far boyzz
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Siegfried is cool!
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>>158962093
Mordecai has saved my ass so many times.
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Help
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>Just starting out
>Get A card called "Dark Angel Olivia"

Did I get lucky or is it a shitty card?
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>worst dragon deck I've ever drafted
>no good 2 drop, no good 4 drop, no lategame except for polyphonic roar and wyrm spire, both pretty terrible
>4-0 so far after going against some control Olivia haven with themis decree and a shitload of heals

what the fuck is going on
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>get told to play this game
>it's way better and more interesting than hearthstone!!!
>start playing
>it's actually a lot of fun
>arena is fun and most classes are represented
>story is boring, but introduces all the classes well
>do all my free arena, open my free packs, get a few decks started
>queue up for ranked
>Havencraft
>only Havencraft
>every single fucking game is Havencraft

You fuckers, why did you lie to me?
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>>158961997
a Mordecai OP, is it that hard
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Doesn't never losing rank kind of suck? Like what if one month I just wanna sit in the low ranks with my shitty meme decks that barely have an even matchup with banner sword
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>>158961997
What's the difference between the characters? There's not hero-power or character-restricted cards so.. Is this only for the appearance?
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>>158962093
Is a grinder control list with Mordecais, resummon options, and a shitload of heal/cycle/removal viable?
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I think we all agree that Luna > Vampy, right?
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>>158962267
Right. Paladins are insane value and can save your ass, and Dragonewt is extra reach + can save your hide.
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>>158962146
Fuck me. Noscript was fucking with my posting. Forgot to fix it again for the final go.
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>>158962289
Boy you unlucky as fuck.
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>>158962375
Correct.
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>>158962281

its a fun card, especially in shitter ranks
not god tier but it's solid
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>>158962289
Havencraft is just too cheap to make you literally don't need legos and only 2 golds to make a good deck.


And a lot of classes can deal with havencraft
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>>158962289
make an aggro bat deck and farm them 4free
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>>158962204
Would you hate me if I brought meta decks
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>>158961997

So thread theme?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axZrElyTmU8
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>>158962289
Because Haven is both top meta and really cheap to build.
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Honestly the bellringer angel sleeve is gaudy as fuck, I really prefer the default ones you get from beating the story since they look like actual cardbacks
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>>158962375
Yes
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>>158962351
There are character (class) restricted cards though?
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>>158962351
All the characters have you own mechanics like officers and commander for sword and amulets for haven
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>Halloween bullshit fucks up appchan

Lovely
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>>158962442
>especially in shitter ranks

Oh good, where I'm going to send most of my time.
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>>158962330
Just get to Masters if you want to fuck around.
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>>158962375
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>>158962375
They're both cute, desu
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>>158962535
>>158962553
Hmm.. I guess I should play the story then I was about to jump into pvp after opening some packs and got myself lost at the deck-building screen..
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>>158962453
You need 3 Themeis Decree and 3 Elana's Prayer

>>158962289
DESU I run into a lot more Tempo Elf and Aggro Bat
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>>158962471
Bring whatever you want.
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>>158962289
Doesn't Aggro Bloodcraft shit on Haven pretty hard? That's been my experience at least.
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What to liquify out of these cards?

Altered fate? Demon Commander Laura?
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I'm getting cards for the classes I want, which is nice.
What kind of builds should I go with?
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>>158962731
No fucking way, what rank do you have to be to lose to blood as haven?
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Mordecai is cute! CUTE!
Also happy Halloween to all Shadowfriends!
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>>158962606
>>158962613
But I'd rather be Luna's Tomodachi than Vampy's Kenzoku.
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>>158962801
Other way around, I'm Blood.
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>>158962604
Is getting to masters actually difficult or is it more of a grind.

Especially if ranks don't reset it seems like anyone that plays long enough will get masters regardless of skill
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>>158962801
>what rank do you have to be to lose to a tier 1 deck
I dunno lol.
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>>158962473
I want to FUCK Erika.
Do you think that if you were to somehow seduce the princess, and princess cumming ahegao inviting her to join in might do the trick?
Help me get laid /svg/, I trust your animu ways more than /a/'s!
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>>158962695
>themis
desu this is not really necessary for newplayers
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>>158962876
>He thinks Haven loses to Blood

Literally impossible, you're playing D rank or some shit.
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>farmed 6k points today
I don't want to play ever again. At least I got Urd Sleeve.
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Who do you want to see become a dicksleeve for next season?
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>>158962876
>it's a tier 1 deck so that means we can throw matchups with other tier 1 decks out the window

Elana craps all over any aggressive deck, especially with barrages teched in

>inb4 someone posts them beating an Elana deck that did some dumb shit like drop Elana on curve
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>>158962961
Not that anon but if the Blood player goes first and has a good curve they can pressure Haven before their amulets pop
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>>158962961
>the deck is literally tier 1 as of last tier list update
>but it most definitely can't win against other tier 1 decks
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>>158962473
no its this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivAao5L8kc
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>>158962731
Elana shits on Aggro Blood unless you can fuck them up before they can draw into and/or set up Elana boosts. Storm is about a 50/50 though in terms of pure speed Blood's just a bit faster.
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>>158962691
At least do the first chapter of each story for the tutorials on the classes. You should play the full thing for the cards you get though.
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>>158963064
>Look at me nitpicking

Yes faggot, if draws/mulligan is bad for haven, blood has a chance, but with both having on-curve plays the haven deck wins.
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>>158963072
No it's this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rumi3RQJZW8
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>>158963072
Already got you my man >>158962097
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>its another day of elves and havens
>its another day of t5 tias
>its another day of you go first against haven
>its another day of 3x lotf in starting hand
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Is this playable yet.
Pls tell me its playable.
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>>158963296
If by "playable" you mean "absolute cancer", then yes.
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>tfw you clutch out the win with 1 hp for 5 turns straight
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>>158961997
>Beat a nip Lolibat with a cheap-ass banner swordcraft deck

I bet he's annoyed.
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>>158963296
>posts the best, most degenerate deck in the game that just lacks a third copy of expensive shit
>hurr is dis playable
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>>158962289
Havencraft is the newb-check deck of the game. It falls off in higher brackets but it's the deck you have to learn to play against to climb.

>>158962731
It does and anyone who thinks otherwise has their head up their ass. All the statistics are in favour of Aggro Blood in the match ups.
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>>158963158
Gotcha ! Can't wait to get home..
I was asking because on the Shadowverse website the classes/characters page is kinda.. Blank.

But yea I'll learn from the game I suppose
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>>158963336
I meant the 2 of everything important instead of 3 because im poor you dingus
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What deck should I try crafting next? Already have DShift (with 2 Merlins, don't have the 3rd) and a Storm Haven. I was thinking on some kind of Forest, since I have some golds, or Shadow, because of Death's Breath, Cerberus and Mordecai.
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>shitty draft and opening hand in T2

shits not fair man
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>>158962204

You gonna stream it so we can laugh at the misplays?
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If you're ever sad, just remember the world is 4.543 billion years old and you somehow managed to exist at the same time as Arisa.
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>>158962471
yes
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>>158963596
No but anyone is welcomed to do it if they want.
I don't have much luck with streaming shit.
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Oh fuck now I have the awful halloween theme
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>>158963520
I'm sure you'll be fine
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>>158963596
this would be pleasure to make kek
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Do the rewards upon reaching a certain rank reset each season or do you get only get them once?
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>>158963654
>want to stream
>but my internet is shared with 3 other people
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>First packs result is 2 Rose queens and a Bloody Mary
>mildly disappointed
>My first Rupee draw results in this

That's better. Guess my starter deck is forest memes. What cards in the forest starter deck are dumpster destined?
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>>158963491
>55-60% Favoured
>All the statistics favour Blood

What does it say for Elana?
http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/new-card-environment-tier-rankings/
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>>158963725
There's no rank rewards. Only Score rewards. And those do reset. Score rewards also only count your wins.
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>>158963818
Yeah, that's what I meant. Thanks.
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is there a way to report people? someone just disconnected after i dealt lethal damage, making me wait for the disconnect win
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>>158963649
>I managed to exist in the same age when corporate and studio's collaborate with each other to make pandering art and games to take advantage of social outcast like me and milk us for whale cash
t-thanks....
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>>158962880
Yes, this will work. It's very important to note though that you cannot be forceful with the hime-sama. If it looks like you're being violent or hurting her, Erika will attack you without any question and whatever happens after that will be up to your ability to defend yourself. If you properly mindbreak the hime-sama and get her addicted to your cock, all you have to do is tell her you want Erika too and she'll gladly obey. If that happens, then you can have Erika any way you want and she'll fall for it so long as her hime-sama tells her to.
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What's better to craft, Forte or Fafnir?
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>>158964023
Forte
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>>158964023
Forte
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>played enough matches to grind out 6k score using Aggro Bat
>literally only lost 3 matches in that entire time
I mean, I'm in B rank, but holy shit, this deck is incredible.
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>>158963880
This is why nobody is friends with you.
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>>158964023
Something useful
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>>158964092
Why though?
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an Orc class to properly counter Elfs and fuck them into submission when
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>>158964086
>Beat Lolibat players just using banner swordscraft

heh
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>>158964081
>>158964083
>>158964137
Cute girl it is.
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So how are midsword - elana matchups supposed to go, I cant fucking do enough damage fast enough it seems, is it just good draws on their part or what.
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>>158964236
be careful

you'll summon ">SWORDCRAFT" goldface poster
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Okay guys, give it to me straight.

Is this game actually fun/good? In case this matters I'm a long time mtg player and played hearthstone since the closed beta.

Gonna be totally honest when I first heard of this game I thought it was a meme. The art style put me off a bit cause it made it look like animeshit mobile grindfest #274 but I'm perfectly able to get past that if the game is worthwhile to get into.
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>>158963816
Game-ai is a blog, their numbers are arbitrary and decided on by the writer's opinion.

http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/43/0/63

Here're actual match up numbers parsed from thousands of games. Blood only loses to Elana overall due to being dragged down by lower brackets, but it comes out heavily in favour of Blood again when you reach Masters. The deck is the best choice in the game for beating Haven if you can pilot worth shit.
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>>158964236
I stomped every banner sword I came across, dunno what to tell you. My three losses were an Aggro Bat, a tempo Elf, and another Aggro Bat
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>>158964186
>putting Orcs into this game so they can be terrorized by degenerate slutty elves

Why would you do such a thing to such regal creatures?
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>>158964440
Its alright.
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>>158964440
its literally free, just play it for a day you dingus
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>>158964262
That's not what I said
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>>158964440
it's like HS but with almost no rng and you don't get jewed anywhere as hard
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>>158963534
As an alternative, maybe some sort of PoD Dragon deck if that's still viable. You have Urd and one copy of PoD and they tend to be on the cheaper side.
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Do you guys open packs one at a time or wait until you have ten?

I'm too many vials/cards out to actually complete a deck from either
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>>158964440

Just try it dude, its free and the start is super generous, you get like 40 packs. My only experience with card games past some yu-gi-oh is hearthstone since beta, and this game is refreshing. The classes are impressively unique mechanic wise, and combo decks aren't considered no fun allowed like in curvestone.
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>"t2" can have three different meanings
nice terminology weebs
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>>158964474
>62 Games
>39 Wins

ehhh, I'd like a bigger sample size before saying that definitively but it seems to go at least above 50%.
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>>158964440
99% less RNG than Hearthstone. There's only like 4 RNG effects in the game I can think of and only one is even played, and it's completely insignificant. You also get a gorillion packs for free.
If you're sick of losing to aggro Shaman or Zoo because you didn't go first in HS, SV has evolve to offset that and allow comebacks.
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Should I finish my forestcraft/spellcraft/dragoncraft deck or should I just make a completely new Havencraft deck? I dont have any havencraft cards, but all of the other decks I have are missing 1-3 legendaries each.
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Jesus this game is shallow as hell.
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>>158964696
Whoever decided to name their draft format "take 2" is stupid.
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>>158964440
It's more fun than HS at least. Whether you consider that fun or not I don't know.
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>>158964440
This game actually have a mechanic to help the second player and make it feel so good.

Don't be a shitter saying how second is favorable since the statistics say no.
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>>158964745
then what's hearthstone?
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>>158964615
Why would I ever wait to open packs
Maybe I'll get all my legendaries I need to complete a deck in a single pack. Who knows, I've gotten 2 in a single pack multiple times before.
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>>158964743
Forestcraft for the win
>>158964745
Hs? yes this game is actually a yogg festival
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Im working towards making an earth rite deck
What I am in for?
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>>158964743
Make Aggro Bat
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So two questions for take two:Who is the best class to pick thinking you're going to get the worst RNG and is phoenix roost worth taking and playing.
It's won me a few of my matches but it seems extremely dangerous and only worth it if your hand is a bunch of 6+'s, potentially suicide when facing runecraft.
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>>158964907
Pain as Elana outvalues you and every other deck rushes you down before you can use Calamitous
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>>158964498
>>158964508
>>158964558
>>158964662
>>158964741
>>158964764
>>158964764
Thanks for the recommendation.
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>All three of my missions are tied to Swordcraft

Fuck me.
Anyone got a good budget Sword deck?
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>>158964696
>'run' can have 179 different meanings
nice language, anglos
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>>158964956
sword
no
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>>158964720
Don't be a faggot anon that's less than a 2% statistical error margin. Aggro Blood has been specifically taken to tournaments to counter Havencraft and the current FotM meta build is designed around these match ups.

If you're going to netdeck and listen to the internet then you need to develop some information gathering skills, or else you look like /v/, autistic enough to bitch about a casual card game but not autistic enough to actually get good at it.
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>>158964956
Phoenix Roost usually isn't unless it's coupled with something insanely good and even then it's basically the card equivalent of Russian Roulette.

Sword is by far the most reliable class. The worst thing you can draft is some situational amulets and otherwise the class is filled with good low and midrange followers.
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>>158965034
What? I was saying its at least 50% or higher in favour of blood. Calm your fucking autism down.
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>>158965009
You mean besides the budget sword deck that's currently dominating ladder as a t1 deck?
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>>158965009
lol?
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>>158964780
Statistics say you have a 3% chance favored as 2nd, but that's negligable.

There's a huge fucking advantage for the 2nd player in T2 though.

And honestly some matchups I feel like I either struggle or excel in based on going 1st or 2nd, like Elana Haven vs Storm Haven being able to drop Priest of the Cudgel turn 4 is really damn good.
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>>158965009
ROYAL
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>>158965009
banner

or nonbanner princess/fencer aggro with fervids
fairly bursty and fun to play
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>>158965009
royal banner sword. It's like 3k, while not the best it sends havenshitters to heck and depending on RNG you might win against a braindead forester.
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>>158965101
its high t2 at best anon
wrecks all the haven decks tho
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>>158965009
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>>158965101
What is it?
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Sky Dragon Ethica is cute
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>>158965101
>>158965203
Link?
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>>158965161
>>158965165
>>158965171
>>158965204
Alright thanks
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>>158965205
>>158965276
Banner Sword
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/royal-banner-swordcraft
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>>158965123
But different decks NEED to have different winrates this is how counter and card game works
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>>158965339
Danke.
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>>158965009
absolute cheapest viable deck in the game
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.65wcO.65wcO.65wcO.5-HbC.5-HbC.5-HbC.625kC.625kC.625kC.625kg.625kg.625kg.625lc.625lc.628AI.628AI.628AI.5-HbM.5-HbM.5-HbM.625lI.625lI.625lI.65yJS.65yJS.65yJS.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-KGw.5-KGw.5-KGw.65vtg.65vtg.65vtg.625lc.625lm
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>>158965269
Good, because that's all she's got going for her
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>>158965171
I have yet to lose to sword as Haven desu, especially since putting in Barrages
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>legendary so bad I'm more excited about the altered fate
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>Everyone and their mother tech barrage to deal with Forest's faggotry
>It ends up hurting meme Sword and meme Blood more, because they don't have le 2 PP bouncable girl of damage immunity
Are they ever going to fucking meaningfully tone downForest? Are we getting another fucking Harvest Festival level "nerf" the next time they look at this fucking class?
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how i download sv on leaproid?

i download a lot of apk and nothing work
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>>158965443
So I have a rose queen and fairy princess, and will of the forest Should I just vial them all?
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>>158965443
Congrats anon, you're one step closer to Rose Queen shenanigans
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Reminder that a literally 2k vials deck wrecks the cancer birds and healsluts
Accept Bannermemes as your savior
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That perfect hand
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>>158965779
I fucking will to get rid of the haven faggots
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>>158965779
>>158965793
like pottery
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>>158965793
>those priest eyes
IT'S TIME
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Why is Ding Dong so popular?
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>>158965793
Kill yourself.
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>>158965906
CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE
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>>158965793
>drops banner
>hits you for 7
>you can remove max 2 of his guys
>drops two centaur vanguards or whatever other 2 storm guys, evolves one and kills you
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>>158965793
>3 Cudgels
>3 Points
I SEE YOUR WEAKNESS
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already got a garuda deck

what should I shoot for next based on this?
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>>158965793
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>>158965906
She's a notorious ding-dong-ditcher and that makes her cute
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When do you think we'll get new leaders or card sleeves?
hasn't this game been out for a year? seems weird all they got is promo free sleeves
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>>158965906
Ding dong!
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>>158966097
It's been out for like 3 months.
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>ending up with both players at 1 HP no evo points or no cards left in hand in a Bannermemes vs Aggro Blood match

Holy fuck that was intense but fun
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>>158965906
white people
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>get promoted to c rank trials just as i got my urd backs as a steam new fag
>Spend all night trolling kids who are close to their 12k by taking the max time to play each turn
>they get super mad as time is of the essence for them
>they always leave and i get free promo threw trials

get fucked other new fags :^)
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>>158966075
>Otohime
wew
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Could I get some advice on this deck /svg/? I decided to take out a third elf girl liza and elf metallurgist to put in the two tias. (I also dont have the 6 drop that gives your faries plus 1 attack when they hit something, but I'm not sure if it would fit in this deck.)

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.1.5zvAY.5zvAY.61jJY.61jJY.61jJY.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k32.61k32.61k32.61QWQ.61QWQ.61QWQ.5zvAi.5zvAi.5zvAi.5zxcy.5zxcy.61oCC.61oCC.61oCC.65cLM.65cLM.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.65YC2.65YC2.65YC2.61qeS.61qeS.61qeS.61Q1A.61Q1A.61Q1A.61lmu.61lmu.65enI.65enI
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I'm trying to decide between crafting a Purg Runecraft deck knowing that I can build the other RC decks if I get their legos or a Seraph deck to be the gimmickiest gimmick (but I don't want to play any other Haven deck)

Help
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>>158965793

What's the decklist for that cheap but decent havencraft deck? I need one for dailies. All the ones I looked up have a ridiculous dust cost.
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>>158966250
good advice would be to stop trying to make budget forest
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Does using one or two Fire Chains on DShift still worth?
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>>158966302
A playset of garudas or elanas plus a playset of themises is all you need gold wise, you don't need any leggos, the rest of the decks is bronze and silver.
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>>158966064
>two merlins
OH I WONDER
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>>158966408
If thats budget then what does a real forest deck look like?
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>>158966302
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>>158966408
thats a ptp forest and looks quite done, anon
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how awful is this deck? i tried making something up with just cards i drew since im afraid of wasting vials. This is pretty much my first cardgame.

I usually try to stall for seraph but sometimes my amulet summons overwhelm the retards in my ultra trench bracket.

Is this too all over the place? I usually lose to sword and blood, especially if im first.
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>>158966293
I'm genuinely not sure if Seraph or Dimension Shift is more annoying
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>>158966250
If you're gonna play ptp you should add fairy beasts in to prevent yourself from folding later on to aggro burst
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When the fuck does the daily login reward reset? Fuck it's almost 4pm
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>tfw SW crashes as I'm about to hallow the shit out of my Seraph Lapis
>sorry we couldn't reconnect xdxdxd
why must meme decks suffer so much?
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>>158966657
I'd say D-Shift but if you have the right deck you can counterplay their spellboost by not playing any followers for them to remove
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>>158966671
If it's the same as GBF, 5 AM JST which is 12 more minutes.
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>>158966250
I concur, put in at least one Fairy Beast
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>>158966657
Dshift pisses off aggro players more because they have no counter
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>>158963725
what from this?
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>>158966657

Storm
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You can set the game to run at 60FPS instead of 30FPS in the in-game settings for maximum smoothness of cute loli avatars.
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>>158966623
I would cut some cards for more countdown reducers. Lizardmen, Snake Priestess, Pious Fox, Kaguya, Sledgehammer.
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Does anyone in this game actually play original decks or is it all netdecking?
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>>158966810
>Dshift pisses off aggro players more because they have no counter
what?
their counter is killing the witch hag
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>3-2
>3-2
>3-2

What the fuck is going on today stop playing arena you fucking slant eyed gook dog eating alien looking tiny dick ass estrogen filled fucking shitters
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>>158966509
I dont have any dshifts though
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>Playing an Elana Mirror
>Nobodies drawing Elana but opponent resolves a satan as game drags on
>Proceed to win anyways through beats and self heal without ever resolving an Elana
>The city of satan
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So uh what's a good or decent Haven deck I can work towards as my first deck?
Also is Lord of the Flies any good or should I liquify him?
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>>158966949
most newfags seem to netdeck and reroll for their chosen deck to play full meta decks in Dranks or something
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>>158966250

FUCKING ELF SHITTER REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158967026
Lord of the flies is rng incarnate thus shit
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>>158966949
Original just means suboptimal garbage

If you have a concept for a deck I guarantee it already exists as a netdeck, research will lead to you making the same deck with maybe minor changes.
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Have you accepted Haven into your heart? If not, one of our friendly priests will be stopping by your house soon to SEE YOUR WEAKNESS educate you on the finer points of Eris' plan to eliminate the dark skins.
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>blood replaced sword in t1
kaka
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>just got the RINGA DINGA meme sleeve.

So when stuff gets reset in a few hours, that means you can earn all the rewards again?
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>>158966949
>tfw I was one of the people that pushed Bannermemes into being a thing
>tfw newfags suck all the joy out of the deck after it got included on official tierlists
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What's the smart thing to do here? Play banner or evolve floral?
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>>158967026
Lord of the Flies is good, don't liquify ut.
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Please help private match quest. I'll bring my Satan memes.

Room 75657.
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>>158967474
floral into widow
ignore unleasher
next turn banner and vanguard or dance of death depending on situation
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>>158967474
Board position first. Banner can wait.
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>>158967308
Link?
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>>158967308
Aggro is the only viable play style for every class other than Forest and Haven., and soon enough Elana will become shit too, and it'll be 6 inferior aggro classes against Forest.
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Is it worth rerolling if I have no idea what kind of deck I want to play?
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Self-mill dragon is so dumb, but so fun.
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>>158961997
can you fucking faggot ass OPs learn how to link the previous thread already?
>>158923839
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>>158966949
I'm enjoying the game with my homemade decks as a new player and i'm having a blast.
I don't really get why all the other new guys seems to want to play tier 1 decks and are willing to liquefy half of their collection tho.
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>>158967474
I evolve floral on 4 even if the opponent has an empty board.
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Fuck man I can not beat stage 8 on Luna's story
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>>158967860
Because by playing a tier 1 deck you win more and thus can get more cards, giving you more freedom to do whatever the hell you want later on.
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>>158967954
this is a correct play
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>>158967860
Because F2P Card games are all about managing resources properly.

Yeah, it would be nice to experiment and try out your own deck ideas, but then 100 games in you have a 35% winrate and no resources to make decks that can actually win.

Once you get stuck with a shit deck it gets even harder to get out of this hole you made because you wanted to be a unique snowflake.

Speaking of which, whats a decent aggro blood decklist? Ive heard that these gamepress lists have issues and I dont want to waste my limited vials.
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So pretty new, how good is Seraph Havencraft? It seems like the sort of deck I'd enjoy but I don't know the meta.
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>>158967580
>>158967591
>>158967954
>>158968124
Thank you fellow swordfags
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>>158968202
probably the weakest haven deck but it's not terrible
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>>158962375

Luna is 9.9 when Vania is 9.8, they are both fine.
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>>158968073
I hear you brother. I'm honestly convinced that all of the story 8 matches are fucking rigged so that the AI draws the perfect answer everytime.
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>>158968202
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/tier-list

This isn't a great site but it's roughly accurate. Seraph's more than good enough for you to play
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Can someone link the winrate table or just tell me what midrange/control swords winrate against dshift rune and elana havencraft are?

My deck is still pretty shit since i dont own an aurelia but i have a good winrate against everything but those two decks even forest (at B3)
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>>158967492
>Lord of the Flies is good
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>>158968202
its the worst of the 3 haven decks but thats not saying much as theyre all pretty broken
its solid tier 2
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>>158966704
>An interesting game. The only winning move is to not play.
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>>158968443
I only had to make custom decks for dragon and heaven stage 8s
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>>158968445
That's exactly the site I found the seraph deck list on but I didn't know how reliable it was thanks
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Alright what about this? I was thinking Alvida, evolve viking and attack face,
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>the loli is innocent but not really lol ima kill you teehee

wow haven't seen that one before
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>>158968539
thats actually true for ramp dragon
you dont get them any targets to spellboost off when you just ramp and then hit them in the face with big guys while they have no adequate response
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Is Medusa in game yet?
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>>158968534
If Shadow gets some good stuff next expansion (and they will with how in the gutter they are right now), then 2x Lord of the Flies is going to be in every deck
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>>158963245
>not sandbagging and chilling in comfy C rank
You only have yourself to blame.
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>>158967385
>random weeb being responsible for anything in a 99.99% japanese playerbase game
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I think I have lethal.
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>>158968646
Blame localization.
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>>158968646
She's just in denial.
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>>158962871
>Especially if ranks don't reset it seems like anyone that plays long enough will get masters regardless of skill

Once you hit A rank you won't actually climb unless you have an above 50% win rate, so you can't get to masters unless you consistently win more than you lose for a long time going through the AA ranks
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>>158968617
Floral Fencer that shit senpai
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>>158968753
She still wants to kill people in Japanese though.
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Grinded almost 8000 points over the last 2 days, I'm exhausted. Thanks, forte
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Man Im really enjoying this a lot more than hearthstone, but im so afraid of this game dying because it isnt blizz, how strong is the player base as of right now?
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>>158967385
>I was one of the people that pushed Bannermemes into being a thing
Yeah okay anon, it's not like it's a popular Japanese netdeck or anything that people played even before DE
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>>158968727
Make sure to do advanced BM and emote 3x, DS, emote 3x, DS, emote 3x, DS, emote 3x and then kill him
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>>158968617
>turn 6
>no evolves used
what is going on
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Protect that smile, /svg/.
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I want havens to become unplayable shittier again, like they were in august.
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which decks does banner meme do well against?
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>>158968646
>Step out side for like 5 minutes
>wow, I'm having so much fun. Adventure! Right Mama, Papa?

What an annoying character archetype. I wish you could be a spoopy lich instead.
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>2 cards left in deck
>One of them will win me the game
ALRIGHT LET'S ROCK.
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>>158968853
steam playerbase will always be completely irrelavant, 95% will be nips on their phones who have already been playing for months
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>>158968727
>running memebolt
>>
This healslut thought she had me
As i defiled her holy throat i shouted.....

NANI!!!?!?!?!?
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>>158968941
Control shitters like Elana
Storm too, a little
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>>158968491
I don't know the exact winrate but you're pretty unfavored against dshift as control (not as bad as other control decks since you still run early followers and some storm, just no buffs) and pretty favored against elana since you just remove/efficiently trade against their stuff. Even if they try to drop the seraph hybrid deck on you it's pretty easy to kill them since it's unlikely for them to have board especially later in the game.
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>>158968853

Dude, Bahamut started in 2012 and it's not only alive and well but getting very big updates and new animated sprites combat.

Cygames games don't die. Asian whales will keep them afloat forever.
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>>158968996
are there any decks that do well against forest and storm?
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Is there any reason to not spend rupies on new packs whenever you can?
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>>158968996
>a little
>literally the deck bird haven has worst winrate against
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>>158969046
when a new expansion comes out you'll have no way to buy those packs
I think they said they wanted to bring a new expansion every 3 months
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>>158968853

Its the most popular card game in nippon. And since you can play crossregion or whatever and platform, shit aint gonna die anytime soon far as I figure it.
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>>158968916

No worries, next expansion will turn the meta upside down.
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>>158969046
As a beginner no, just buy packs or arena tickets, if you already have all the cards you need, start saving up for expansions
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>>158969032
Aggro bat does well against both of those, I think
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>>158969046
There will be future expansions and future leaders?
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>>158968863
It is done.
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>>158966858
hibikek
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>>158968853
Unlike most digital card games, this one is assured to live for years to come.
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What happens when you get to the final daily bonus

Do you do back to shitty 20 gold?
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>>158968872
I'm bad
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>>158968841

I didn't end up bothering, dingdong is enough for me.

>>158968853
>>158969028

The game won't die, but who knows what will happen to the english supported side. I'm totally ignorant on how Rage of Bahamut was handled and who took care of it, but all english support was completely stopped like last year.
>>
Do you think they'll introduce preferred regions when it comes to what opponents you'll face?
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>>158969208
Yep, you just loop back to the beginning.
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I love watching runecraft decks pulling out flame destroyer like it's going to save them.
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>>158969154
don't think it does well against forest at all
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>>158969208
You just get arena tickets forever after
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>Arena run goes smoothly
>Suddenly, leonidas/prince spoil it
Why are they allowed
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>>158969275
I can't see why they'd intentionally segment their playerbase.
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Just pulled an animated Cerberus, praise Luna!
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>>158969032
Nothing does well against Forest, it's the most broken class in the game. It doesn't have a single bad match up. Play aggro dragon if you want something that shits on aggro and control alike, but prepare yourself to concede against every Forest that always has 1 drop > removal or 2 fairies > ancient elf > princess mage > Tia
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I love this deck
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I'm pretty fucking sick of losing the early game to elf child may. She's without a doubt the sleeper OP garbage of forestcraft
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>>158969271

RoB had it's own publisher in the west with separate servers. That went bad so they localize their own games now. SV is linked with nip version so it's 100% safe.
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>>158969271
Rage of Bahamut had a seperate English version and group in charge of the localization
Shadowverse English version shares servers with JP version and its Cygames themselves that are handling it.

The absolutely worst-case scenario that could happen is that they stop translating new cards to English or kill the english version completely. But your account and everything will still be there and work in the Japanese version
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>>158969275
You can't type in this game anyways so there's no point.
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>>158969435
Luna shouldn't be allowed to have such a perfect butt
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Everyone pay your respects to best skelebro.
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>>158969208
Your souls is ripped from your body.
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>>158969369
Because you weren't fast enough?
9/10 mana do nothing and you can't kill them?
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>>158969435
>tfw I've pulled three animated legendaries
>they're Alexander, Rose Queen, and Queen Vampire
A-At least they look nice in my collection...
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>>158969369
>Posts the slowest, clunkiest shit that only wins if you're ahead
At least complain about Olivia like anyone who knows what they're talking about.
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>>158969450
>It doesn't have a single bad match up
but thats wrong
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>>158969547
Alexander and Queen Vampire are great cards.
Jury's out on Rose Queen
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>>158969489
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closing in on them ding dong sleeves
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>second day playing
>figure I'd fuck around and try Take Two since I've got a few tickets just to see how it goes and if I like it
>given this
As much as Prince of Darkness sounds cool I should take Jeanne and Themis's right
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>>158969509
>you can only win against another shadow
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I linked my steam account to an account i created on Bluestacks, but didnt get the 3 pack reward

is this supposed to happen?
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>>158968685
Yes is a bloodcraft card
>>158969509
Nce tri mordekai
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>>158969564

Who the fuck thought Olivia was balanced? I mean, obviously she's sort of balanced because turn 9 but nigga if you get there. fuck.
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>>158969637
yes
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Is there any reason to play maid leader If you already have a banner in your hand?
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I don't think I'd run it for real, but the effect looks nice.
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>>158969637
yeah
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>>158969637
Yes. Well done! You no longer need to ask the thread.
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>>158965793
Keep trying bannerbros I'm sure you'll win eventually
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>>158969625

Why is it allowed to be so perfect?
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>>158969637
Left

Jeanne is hard to setup themisis good but prince and odin are fucking good
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Is it worthy crafting common cards with vials? Or is it a strictly golds and up thing?
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>>158969625
Couldn't be more perfect
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>>158969547
I pulled two animated fairy princesses

Just used them as vials to get a complete deck
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>>158968989
I hope you killed her with the discard effect on Dragonewt.
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>>158969702
Olivia is pretty balanced desu. She's still very slow and you can usually tell when your opponent has one in hand in arena.
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>>158969702
I dont think the 9 cost is a problem, if you have her in your hand you can play like a complete retard with your evolves and win by just overpowering people.
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>>158969740
>BMing AI
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>>158969737
I've won game off having three banners out and putting out consistent storm turns.
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>>158969875
I did it because I wanted to see what Enstatued Seraph looks like
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What happened to this UI from PC beta?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36NxvobwQH8

It looks much cleaner and more easily understandable at a glance than what we got on steam which seems like it's just a straight rip from the phone version

I just started playing so I don't know if that old UI was on phones too but if it was it was a mistake changing it, the new one is really messy and kinda bad compared to it
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>>158969807
Satan is extremely slow and at least one card you can draw from him is a dead draw. Odin is a single target banish which has poor stats. You get Odin for 5 mana without the body in Haven.

You absolutely take Jeanne and Themis there. Themis is insane and much more of a recovery card than either card on the right, especially given you are the amulet class. Jeanne is strong in arena, if you get even one minion dead or free trade from her she's worth it.
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Is it normal that I'm getting my ass kicked hard in the later Swordcraft story missions? Breezed through Forestcraft's story but starting with the mirror match everything has become a hell of restarting over and over and praying the RNG favors me. Might help if I had better cards but I promised myself I wouldn't buy any packs until I'd finished all of the single player shit, so that I would be less likely to waste the starting resources they give me.
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>>158969961
That is the phone beta.
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>>158969275

>can only communicate through emotes
>latency doesn't matter in a card game

I would say a big no.
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What were the rewards for the last season?
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>>158969740
It's playable, but it's a tier 2 deck
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>>158970053
How do you even do emotes? I tried to google it but only got some unrelated shit.
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>tfw no dragon to rely on
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>>158969961
If by "cleaner" and "more easily understandable" you mean "shoddier" and "confusing as fuck", then yeah
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>>158969740
Seraph is a deck that gets better the less people are playing it.
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>>158969961
This looks like more of a phone UI than the current UI.

Are you retarded by chance?
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>>158969517
Its arena. I don't exactly have a good deck every time.
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>>158970101

Drag your mouse over the portrait of your character. A wheel will open up and you can drag to the emote you want to do.
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>>158969961
I get what you're saying but you get used to the new one pretty fa-
Wait.

Did they actually nerf Runecraft-chan's cleavage ?
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>>158970178
サンキュー
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>>158969702
Olivia herself is fine, all she does is point out how overpowered evolve is in arena. If this isn't the biggest redflag of how broken second turn is in arena, I don't know what is. We're at the point where constructed decks have 10%+ win rates goiing second, in arena it would be double that easily.
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>>158970075
>implying thats a bad thing
There is not that much a difference between tier 1 and 2 decks in sv
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Where do you guys get your decklists from? Everyone says Gamepress is a bad site.
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>>158969470
agree it's mad fun, feels kinda bad tho when you can't pull a banner for 7 fucking turns, trust me
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>>158969637
Do all Take 2 runs give you legendaries like these
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>>158969961

The old one was way messier. The fuck you on about?
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>>158970237
You can make craft and card picks to mitigate that.
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>>158969961
????

That looks much worse.
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>>158970237
>cherrypicked 10% winrate difference meme
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>>158969625
Luna is cute.
CUTE.
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>>158970237
It's kind of ridiculous when you think about it.

HS only has like a 3% winrate favouring first turn, but SV has 10%+ for the second turn. It wouldn't even surprise me if it was like 30% for something in arena.
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>>158970305
Yep you're guaranteed like 3 gold/legendary picks IIRC and can get more. Depending on what the rest of your draft is here I would consider left over right.
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>>158970305
Seraph is actually legit in TT.
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>>158970336
the gnome in the corner isnt part of it
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>>158969625
Wait holy shit, has no one ever noticed the exposed nipple?
Have we all been mesmerized by the butt?
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>>158970423
SV does not have a 10%+ for second turn except for certain decks. Generally the difference is a few percent at best, and some decks even prefer going first.
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>>158970423
It's a 8% difference in HS.
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>>158970423
>>158970237
>tfw going second has a 89% winrate
>tfw going first has a -5% winrate
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>can get away with rezzing 7+ cost minions with ceridwen
Will I stop having fun once I get out of D-tier ranked and start facing the cancer decks?
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>>158970475
Shush anon, I didn't notice it when I posted it and I'm hoping no one reports me
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Silence mechanic when?
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>>158970423
>HS only has like a 3% winrate favouring first turn, but SV has 10%+ for the second turn. It wouldn't even surprise me if it was like 30% for something in arena.


When the shitters are high like a shit
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>>158970475
It's probably why it was allowed as an OP image before.
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Just finished the tutorial and opened up my free 40 packs, these are all the Legendaries I got. (Odin is animated)

Am I lucky? Which ones suck? Are 3 Alexanders too much?
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>>158970475
thats her butt, anon
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>>158970423
the only deck its true for is control sword
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>>158970516
yes.
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>>158970516
Can't rez 7 drops if you never get to play them
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>>158970469
I went with Seraph
>>158970431
Any way I can post the deck without hand editing photos together
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Rank D3 now, kinda crazy how no one seems to expect Fafnir.
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>>158970469
Yeah but with three 8 drops zero 7 drops and one 6 drop you take the two solid 6s IMO. Considering you have a Jeanne and a Themis already.
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does bannermeme have a hard time against anyone? I'm thinking about building it since its only 5k vials
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Help me.
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Anyone here runs a ptp rune deck? Can you post your deck please
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>>158970582
Nice dust
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>>158970490
Certainly not, at least when I quit. It was only 2.5%.
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>>158970661
forest
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>>158970661
struggles against elf, but thats like 90% of decks on ladder

also you dont need tsubaki
also you need max 2 alvidas
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>>158970676
Im not looking forward to having disposable income soon.

I try to avoid card games because of this.
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Good legos alone
Merlin,saber,Bloody Mary,Otohime,Tsubaki,Queen vampire,Moon Al-mi'aj,Lucifer,Odin,Alexander,Seraph,Prince of Darkness,Fafnir

Good legos but need more 3 or 5 legos to make a good deck
Ancient elf,Crystalia Tia,Pascale,Cerberus,Dark Dragon Forte,Lord of the flies,

Maybe some day these legos will be power full
Soul Dealer,Rose Queen,Ach Summoner Erasmus,Zinitra

Just Bad legos

Dragonsong flute,,Beast Dominator,Fairy Princess,Skull fane,Pluto,Mythril Golem, Lord Atomy

Reposting for discussion
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>>158970676
Go to the shop and buy cards, that'll get rid of all those pesky crystals
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83154

send help
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>>158970676
The whale, now carrying an island without a master, occasionally leaps from the sea, shaking the distant waves with its cries for its fallen friend.
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>>158970423
It's not 10%

not even the worst decks are 10%

"10%" comes from people who looked at the data and cherrypicked the decks with the lowest sample sizes.

The absolute worst deck is like Forest which is because of how they can curve into Tia going 2nd
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>>158970676
There is nothing else in life to spent that money on. Dont worry.
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>>158970552
Silence is a toxic mechanic
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>>158970661
Midrange/Control Sword and Midrange Forest. It gets outdamaged by Face Dragon too while you're unable to destroy their followers.
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>>158970161
CURSED GENERAL
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guy had me at 3hp since turn 5
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>>158970676
good goy
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>>158970676
put the crystals in the bag onii-chan
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Now that the steam client's out, how long until we get bots to do our dailies for us?
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>>158970856
oops
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>>158970769
You forgot Olivia in good leggos alone.
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>>158965906
-Universal cheap filler card for all crafts until you refine your decks
-Has one of the most recognizable voice clips in the game.
-Gets meme'd everywhere so it continues to build upon its own popularity.
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FUCK DANCE OF DEATH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THIS CARD WAS THE WORST FUCKING THING THEY DID TO THIS GAME
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>>158969961

>have character portraits in the middle
>randomly have portraits of the same characters on the bottom left and top right for no reason taking up room

This triggers my user interface autism. What a pointless waste of screen real estate.
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>>158970792
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>>158970798
Post data then.

I'd like to know more.
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Good legos alone
Merlin,saber,Bloody Mary,Otohime,Tsubaki,Queen vampire,Moon Al-mi'aj,Lucifer,Odin,Alexander,Seraph,Prince of Darkness,Fafnir,Dark Angel Olivia

Good legos but need more 3 or 5 legos to make a good deck
Ancient elf,Crystalia Tia,Pascale,Cerberus,Dark Dragon Forte,Lord of the flies,

Maybe some day these legos will be power full
Soul Dealer,Rose Queen,Ach Summoner Erasmus,Zinitra


Just Bad legos

Dragonsong flute,,Beast Dominator,Fairy Princess,Skull fane,Pluto,Mythril Golem, Lord Atomy,Jeanne D'arc


>>158970938
sorry
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>>158970782
>>158970782
Please ;_;
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>>158967026
Lord of the Flies is horribly overrated. You always end up at turn 7 and wonder if your RNG prayers are going to take that 2/3 chance of fucking you in the ass.
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>>158965906
cute as fuck
unforgettable since the first time she cockblocks your lethal
unforgettable since the first time she saves you from enemy lethal and draws your answer at the same time
one of the best designed cards in the game
unlimited meme potential
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>>158971105
>tfw you have every bad legendary, and multiple copies of most of them
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>2800 to go
I can make it.
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>>158971127
Thank you!
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>>158970423
The rate is actually 3% in favour of second.
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Imp Lancer > Vampire Queen
>That feeling when finishing someone off with lancer when queen would have been a dead card in that situation
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>>158970676

...I can't.

I'm suffering from the same problem too.
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As if we needed any more proof that solitaire players are subhumans. He ran the clock than disconnected at the last second after taking a year long turn of drawing and spellboosting.
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>>158971304
Last I played, it was 2.5% in favour of first with a <1% for decks built around going second.

Got a source on these new stats?
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>Aggro deck is forced to use their burn as removal
Is there any better feeling
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What can I do with this? Besides rerolling.
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>>158971105
Why the fuck is Cerberus and Forte not in good legos alone? They are the centerpiece of their classes and you can make viable decks with just them.

Meanwhile, Queen Vampire, Alexander, and Fafnir should be moved down. Maybe Satan as well but he's neutral so that might help his case.
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>>158967026
Flies helps you keep tempo if you have it and fills in an otherwise empty 7PP slot Shadow doesn't have. But he does kinda suck since he doesn't change momentum in your favor like other legends. Either way don't liquefy him since he's actually useful.
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>>158971451
Not Hearthstone, Shadowverse. There's a parser.
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>>158971201
>2/3
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i did it
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>>158971429
Solitaire in hell.
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Can I liquifiy Odin?
I feel like I can
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>>158971578
remove elf
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>>158970678
Anyone?
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>>158970475

I could stare at that butt for hours. Can't blame anyone.
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>>158971530
Oh.

Still, got stats for the SV stuff?
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>>158969435
>there is no larger size of that image
Life is suffering.
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Uhhh just me or did they reduce the number of standard packs you get for rerolling down to 10?
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>>158971513
>Forte,cerberus
The point of need another legos is need 3 copies of each.
>Queen Vampire, Alexander, and Fafnir
No deck run more than one of this to be good,maybe alexander if you are talking about the expensive sword deck

This is not a tier list entirely this is a lest for rolls and keepers but can be used like a tier list
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>>158971578

>elf

REMOVE
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How do you play tempo elf?
I have higher winrate with Shadowcraft over this shit
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>>158971693
http://shadowlog.com/

There's a second parser I didn't save that has the same rates, and it's consistent with tournament results.
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>>158971648
Odins only use is in slow control decks because it allows him to banish seraph/ptp/mordecai that would lose you the game otherwise
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>>158971512
Almost nothing, sadly. The only good things in there that are used by good decks are Vania, Elf Knight Cynthia, and Moon Al-mi'raj.
You could however, liquify most of those trash golds and Pluto and be able to make a t2 and t1 deck like Banner Sword and Aggro Bat, respectively.
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>>158971648
I would do it, 2 odins is too much
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>>158971773
>turn 4 Princess Evo
>turn 5 tia
>???
>win
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>>158971741
Your logic doesn't hold up. Having 3 Merlins or Otohime is way more important in the relevant builds than having a playset of Cerberus, Forte or Pascales which each give their respective decks a big bump alone.

Lucifer, Odin, Alexander, Satan, Fafnir and Olivia are all only run in lists that already have other legendaries too. You aren't just a Steambaby repeating Reddit are you?
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>>158970676
I refuse to spend money on this because I wouldn't have the patience to only buy one pack per day at half price
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>>158971648
In current meta? I'd say yes. But he could be useful if the meta shifts to something slower for whatever reason and big amulets become a thing.
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>>158971773
Put out a bunch of fairies and then use Wind God or Cynthia. If the enemy is aggro then use more Ancient Elves and Tia. You basically control every part of the game.
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Man I love this deck code system so much.
Life is great
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>Face some shadow deck full of ward cards
FUCK OFF, STOP SLOWING DOWN MY GAMES
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>>158971987
It's the dumb tripfag that gives shitty advice nonstop
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>>158971953
>Started first
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>>158971773
Forest has the opposite playstyle of Shadowcraft. You're trading in quantities of low quality resources for damage and soft advantage, and you're trying to maintain field control while sneaking in damage.
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What is this shit? 5/23 of the legos I've unpacked so far have been fucking Pluto. Does Pluto have a 20% drop rate?
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>>158971709
Anyone?
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>>158971953
She instantly gets killed and if I go first then they have executes or Thermis ready
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>>158970769
I'm scared that flute's going to become amazing soon in a rebalance so I don't want to trash mine
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>>158972114
Game needs more value ward cards, I love watching face dragon and aggro squirm.
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>>158971512
Thanks for the input, mate.
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What did he mean by this?
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Somebody mind conceding for the private match quest? ID is 48024.
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>>158972187
ME TOO ANON. ME TOO.

I FUCKING DUSTED ALL OF THEM AND THEN I HAD A PLAYSET AGAIN. FUCKING PLUTO, YOU COULD'VE BEEN CERBERUS AND THEN I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO SPEND 11'000 VIALS ON HER.

EXCEPT THEN I GOT A CERBERUS THE DAY AFTER I MADE 3 OF THEM.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I GOT AFTER THAT?

ANOTHER FUCKING PLUTO.
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>>158971787
>Moon
Worthless.

I'll wait for Cygames to get off their asses and make an English version.
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>>158972294
>>158971850
oops
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How good are dragon decks in general? Opened two fortes and a fafnir, the game just wants me to play dragon
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So I just ran out of crystals from that 1 time 800 crystal deal by spending them each day on the daily deal.

Going forward if I'm interested in getting the daily deal pack once a day does it make more sense to drop $0.99 a day on 50 crystals or buying the $79.99 5000 crystal pack and using that once a day?
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>>158972402
Shit's rigged, man.
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How pay-to-win is this game?
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>>158971987

This is why we are discussing the list for new rollers, you don't need to use god tier arguments like reddit and steambaby.
>Cerberus,Forte and pascales
These cards need three copy to make a decent deck
>Lucifer, Odin, Alexander, Satan, Fafnir and Olivia
Don't know much about Fafner but all the other legendary does not really need another directly since they can go alone itself for new players
>Odin and Olivia
Does these three work like a tech right?
>>158972118
Here, a man of respect .
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>>158970769
>good legos alone
if this is supposed to be a rerolling guide, this is a shitty misleading category that just means "flashy stuff for newbies". categorize by frequency of competitive play.
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lol?
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>>158962594
Switched to 4chan x just because of that shit.
Thank god it can import my theme though.
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Should I go a Shadowcraft deck or a Bloodcraft deck as my first deck?
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>>158972476
Buy crystals
Use the crystals to buy packs
Use the packs to make decks
Use the decks to climb the ladder
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>go haven take two
>vs dragon
>he plays siegfried into my "immune to effect and spells" 4 drop
>concedes
Glad to see I'm not the only one who can't read card effects.
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>>158972187
I know Pluto is considered shit, but I dunno why ?
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>>158972187
Atomeme keeps jumping out from my packs. I think the game has a twisted sense of humor.
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HOW DO I DISABLE THIS AWFUL BLUE AND ORANGE SKIN ON 4CHAN

IT MAKES ME EYES BLEED

FUCK YOU GOOK MOOT
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When is the score reset?
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>>158972546
Bloodcraft. Make sure you buy Vania as well goyim.
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>>158972476
Seems acceptable to me.

There are a number of high tier decks you can put together with the starting resources, with another few decks you can work towards, and 1 or 2 decks that will likely be out of the meta before you could make them with a pure F2P account.
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>>158972476
There's a bunch of value decks and they are very generous with packs and daily bonuses.

Or you can just complain about Forest being p2win every time you lose to a roach chain.
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>>158972476
much less than hearthstone
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>Animated Gun Maid Seira

I N T E N S E
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>>158972623
Basically a worse Odin, and Odin isnt even that good, it's overcosted for just a destroy effect and most of the time decent body. At least if you run Odin you can banish annoying Last Words.
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>>158972476
You get around 1-3 packs per day from daily rewards.
You buy 1 pack a day you get them at half the price, but if you want to buy many packs at once you have to pay full price, it's like a tax on whales.
>>
>Have a chance to pull a game back from defeat
>Misreads my input and targets the wrong thing
Holy shit this client.
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>>158972609
"I'm strong but i was too proud"
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>>158972476
Pretty massive p2w if you want to climb since at a certain point you'll get crushed if you try to finish dailies.

If you're content with playing casually it's not p2w at all.
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>>158972476
Depends on how good your initial rolls/rerolls are.

You get bombarded with packs at the start, and generally should have enough to build one of the cheaper good decks out there - Banner Sword, Loli Bats, etc.
It is very possible to be competitive as a new player, though you won't be playing any of the super expensive decks with like 9 legendaries in them.
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>>158972802
>Go to put a card back into your hand
>it plays it
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>>158972742
Is the Bloodcraft aggro bat list correct?
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With winrate like this I'll be in masters in no time.

Erika strong.
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>>158972629
At least Atomeme you can make a skeleton/ghost deck, not saying its good but its something. Pluto is basically useless.
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>>158972623
if you have board control, you'd rather push face
if you don't, killing one thing isn't gonna help
it's fine in arena
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Holy shit boys rate my pulls on my 3rd time rerolling, I got both those moons in my last pack and I actually yelled "NANI"

Here's the golds
http://imgur.com/a/NAUOd
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Good game? Sell me on it, /v/
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>>158972929
gib list
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>>158973015
tits
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>>158972459
Are you going to going to be doing this for more than 80 days?

Because if you take the $80 deal, you can keep going for 100 days, while you would only get 80 days for the same money with the $1 price.

But with the $1 deal, you can stop at any day.
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>>158972501
You've obviously never played Aggro Shadow or Face Dragon. You're not even seeing Cerberus in half of your games, she's important to optimizing any Shadow builds but it's because she's a pushed card, your core gameplan is unchanged without her and the deck operates with most of its efficiency. Similarly, Forte closes out games on Face Dragon but there're matches where you won't see her at the effective 6 copies and you're still overwhelming them with card superiority for damage.

I'll give you that Pascale needs to be run at 3 for Earth Rune, but what needs to be understood is that 3 Pascales is 11'000 vials and that's the deck core. Merlin and Otohime operate under the same rules, in that you don't run the list until you fill out on them.

You do not slot a single copy Lucifer, Odin, Alex, Satan, Fafnir or Olivia without other cards prepared in your build. Throwing legendaries into your deck without a plan bricks you. Odin is used for end game decks to cure specific match ups, Olivia has to be built around specifically or she's a dead draw. You have absolutely no understanding of deck construction.

Or reading comprehension evidently, because you're the one being called a dumb tripfag.
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Who else here /stillhasleftoverfreebieticketsbecausearenamakesthemnervous/?
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>>158972983
>cracking packs one-by-one in rerolls
top gambles m8
anyhow, this roll pwns and you're good to go
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>>15897298
すーすげ!
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>>158972983
Probably one of if not the best I've seen recently.
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>>158972802

I've accidentally played the card I didn't mean to more times than I'd like to admit.
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>>158972983
Id keep it
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>Going all out for the RingRong sleeve
>Suddenly start hovering around 3500
>Nothing but face dragon
Fuck
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>>158973029
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>>158973015
Cute girls, relatively fast paced, Dragons, decent start-up, tits, a kinda fun to check out campain, cute girls.
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>>158972537

help please? it just stopped working. What gives? I want my 50 crystal pack.
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>>158973112
Not me because I didn't start 3-4 days ago newfag
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>>158972371
Thanks whoever joined.
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Having trouble on what deck I want to start working on first. Thinking either Dragoncraft, Bloodcraft or Shadowcraft but I'm not sure what the best start would be
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>>158973253
>newfag
I started 2 months ago buddo
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>>158973112

Here. Here!

The weird thing for me is, I can play normal unranked and ranked just fine.
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>>158973209
better hurry theres only 3 hours left

maybe
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>>158972929
Are kogas worth putting into midrange, every time I try to include them I hate my fucking life
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How do I play Banner?
Just focus on keeping the field clean until I get banner out and then go for the leader?
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>>158973289
Depending on golds you can go Blood, Shadow, Haven or Dragon cheaply.
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>>158973310
So you just have anxiety issues, which is probably worse.
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>>158973015
>cute girls
>handsome men
>simpler than hearthstone
>game showers you with free shit when you start off
>game rewards you with free shit for doing easy tasks
>if you start now you can witness the memes as they grow
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>>158973112
Not nervous, I just don't know what cards are good and bad and work properly yet, I tried one run and sucked, while I consistently went infinite in hearthstone. I'm waiting till I've played ranked enough to get a good grasp of what's shit and what isn't.
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having to deal with evolved cudgel+beastcall on turn 4 every single game against haven makes me want to stop playing this game completely
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>>158973112
>miss lethal in arena
>win anyway
>realize i'm too tired and stop playing for the day
who /disciplined/ here
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>>158973375
Face
Face
Face
Don't ignore an obvious trade like a quickblader into a 5/1
Face
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>>158973117
Yea after getting 12 legendaries on my emulator I decided to open the last 9 steam packs 1 by 1, i'm glad I did kek
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Is Queen Medb's effect applied to both players?
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>>158973278
Yeah. Its another "you didnt draw any of your 6 aoe's and 5 ward's" episode. Ill fucking disenchant all shadow's cards.
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>>158973375
You want to put out as many followers as you can while hitting face unless you have to destroy a follower then put out the banner and go face as much as you can.
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>>158973375
Most of your shit has storm, you don't need to keep the board clean. Your opponent will be busy doing that for you.
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As someone who hasn't played these games before. Where should I start? Looking at the classes, I kind of like the look of Dragoncraft, go in and stomp the enemy with a powerful early game. But at the same time, it feels like a noob trap.
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>>158973367
answered your own question
they're a bad finisher for aggro, to serve as 8 points of reach when you're losing board control
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>>158973375
Take any high value trades
Go face

Aggro is all about applying enough pressure to force them into trading with you.
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>>158959679
wew, that was quicker than expected. might as well go for the 12k sleeves at this pace
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>An aggro deck is allowed to have cards like the 2/4 ward dog, scriptures, priest of the cudgel, and themsis
>Over half the """control"""" classes in the game have inferior removal to an aggro deck
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>>158973536
no
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>>158973375
never play centaurs without Storm
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Do i even have a chance to get score rewards if i dont have tons of good legos and golds?

I just want the 300 score reward ;_;
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>>158973593
I'm now 150 vials richer.
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>>158973086
>Odin,Satan,Fafnir,Olivia,Lucifer
>without other cards prepared in your build
Then all legendary will go down to the category of need 3 or 5 legendary to make a good deck for starters?
>Cerberus,Forte
Why those anons are rolling 3 fortes and 3 cerberus then? these cards don't have a big impact in matchs? desu i only see haven in ranked and don't know how to ansewr this well about cerberus, but forte for me is 50% of the deck.
>Or reading comprehension evidently, because you're the one being called a dumb tripfag.
This is just the arguments of some bois here they need it to be alive
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>>158973584
>Midnight Vampire
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>Can't even speak Japanese and even I know this shit was poorly translated
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>>158973367
I run 1 copy. They make for an okay finisher late game, especially if you can buff them next turn.
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>>158973375
When against haven, if you have a 2/2 and a 1/1 out evolve the 2/2 to deny Baldy the banish, same thing for Floral, when you evolve her try and avoid ramming her into things if you have other alternatives, it'll force Baldy to banish the 2/2 if he wants to get the best value out of him, a damaged Floral is also Siegfried bait so keep that in mind when against dragon.
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>>158973647
You literally only have to win 2-3 times for that. It doesn't even get subtracted from losing. I'm sure even you can do it, anon.
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>play against titty monster
>Last win I need for dingdong sleeves
>Bitch does nothing but kill my minions for what feels like 15 turns
>Never able to play my 9/11 evolved dragon nigga because need to keep applying multiple pressure

fuck that bitch. Was able to pull it out though.
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>>158973589
>hs-like ccg's
>control
Kids cant afford to think and to buy expensive decks, so control will always suck :^)
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>>158973669
>im bad
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>>158973224

restart fixed it. shit port confirmed.
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>>158973647
just build banner sword
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>>158973672
This desu. Is there a proper translation somewhere?
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>>158973647
m8 you could get dingdong sleeves with trash if you started yesterday
probably today still
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>>158973112
I'd normally be like that, but there's just something about having 12 free tickets that makes me not care if I waste them.
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>>158973537
Hang in there, Luna!
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>>158973647
No, but you can try it build a benner meme and go full speed sanic
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>>158973776
No, Midnight Vampire is bad. Trash, even. There's a ton of better alternatives than that shit.
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>>158972187
Erasmus is the one I keep getting

I play three different runecraft decks and I still wouldn't use him
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>>158973562

Dragoncraft is fun. I wish I could give you an actual answer but play whatever the fuck you like or CAN actually play. Dont think anything isnt viable except blood, blood is shit if the deck needs you to be in vengeance for your cards to be good.
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>>158973562
>I kind of like the look of Dragoncraft, go in and stomp the enemy with a powerful early game.
That's the exact opposite of what the class is though. It's a ramp class with big guys.
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right?
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>>158973845
>look at how bad I am everyone!!
We get it anon
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>>158973872
blood is literally tier 1
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>>158973872
T I E R 1
I
E
R

1
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>Playing Take 2
>I'm playing Swordcraft.
>Opponent is also playing Swordcraft and is using the Maid to Kill Flair (Reach level 100 in Swordcraft).
>He goes first
>Turn 3 starts for him on an empty board both sides.
>He drops a Fencer.
>I drop a 3/2
>Turn 4 for him.
>My evolve turn is coming up.
>He drops a Ruthless Assassin.
>I think "Oh fuck he's gonna run his 2/2 fencer into my 3/2 and use the Ruthless assassin to stop me from getting a value trade from my turn 4 evolve."
>He suicides the Ruthless assassin into my 3/2 to kill it and goes face with the fencer.

Fucking hell how are these Japanese players so bad?
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>>158973834
Fuck it. I dont want to wait 2 more months before they make shadow playable again.
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>>158973872
Bats are tier 1 amigo, just ignore every vengeance card and go face.
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>>158973949
>>158973960

talking about entry level/budget you spergs.

fuck off out of here with your 20k vials needed shit.
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>>158973787

>be me
>play banner sword
>never draw banner when I need it
>proceed to get my ass kicked

I'm such trash player. BUT GAME IS SO FUN.
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>>158973949
>>158973960
>>158973998
Is this some fresh new meme?
Bats are middling tier 2
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What packs are the 'best' to buy out of the two?
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>>158972476
Put it this way

After one day I had a complete face dragon deck, it took me months to get a complete deck in Hearthstone.

All card games are pay to win and being limited to dailies sucks but it's the most player friendly TCG I've played
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Im glad I dumped every single resource I had into this deck.

After one game im already in love, this plays so much better than Banner Sword.
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>>158974027
Literally 6k
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>2 tsubaki
>skull fane
>animated cerberus
Worth keeping?
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Didn't expect this to work
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>>158973589
>aggro
>themis
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>Take-two
>Playing haven vs shadow
>my entire board is wiped but he's at 2 hp
>He's got me at lethal
>"I'm sorry"
>Draw Garuda and kill him
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>>158973921
yes
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14k dust.
I have one Ancient Elf, 2 Zintias and 1 Faf. Want to play both Elf and Dragon.
What do?
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>>158974085
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>>158973930
You know what, I was gonna seriously debate you on the pros and cons of the card and even give you a better decklist that works in Master, but nah.
Enjoy being shit, fag.
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>>158974053
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>>158974027
Bat aggro is like 6k. Like the only expensive tier 1 thing are forest decks.
>>158974076
Try and keep up with news, amigo, bats are tier 1 now.
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>>158974076
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/22277

Last position in tier 1.
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>11k beaindead decks is better than 30-40k decks
Another greate game :^)
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>>158974027
The 'T1' variant is literally three times cheaper than control variants that use vengeance. Keep acting like you know what you're talking about though.
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>8051 score
Oh well, didn't get the Sleeve. At least I still got the Emblem.
Steamfag desu.
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Alright I finished the campaign.

What now? What's arena? What's take two? What's the difference between ranked and unranked matches? How can I get more cards?
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>>158973978
Post your list. Why not try aggro shadow?

Some of the statistics seem to show a fairly decent overall winrate for aggro if I recall. And maybe tech in Tenacious Ghosts instead of Skelly Knights since the skeleton gets wrecked by all the Haven and Forest.
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>>158974176
Pretty sure the 40K vial Forest decks are at the very top of T1
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>>158974076
>>158974162
>last position
No it's not
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>>158974053
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>>158974203
unrank is like pub games
rank is like queueing where you get score(see the score rewards on missions)

>how to get cards
do rank, you get packs/rupies when you reached certain scores.
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>>158974053
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>>158974203
>How can I get more cards?
buy the crystals with money and use them to buy packs
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>>158974268
God no wonder they're suddenly everywhere in AA0
Time to double down on the Elana game
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>>158974268
where i can see the list of this deck?
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The amount of times I've accidentally played a card after I decided not to use it is fucking infuriating.

The amount of times I've lost the game because of it even more so.
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>>158974369
>Time to double down on the deck that loses consistently to it
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>>158974053
I see you too recognize that Erika merits ALL CAP MAIDS in all of her deck names.
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>>158974053
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>>158974387
Open the image in new tab and click on blue text.
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It's like my third ranked win, but I already enjoy bullying fairies.
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>>158974387
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>>158974451
It just makes the picture bigger
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>>158974429
>loses consistently to it
???
http://syadoreco.com/metareports/deck/16/week/all/2016/43/t/
Looks like a 41% winrate against Elana to me
I don't understand how a deck with a winrate that horrible against Forest can be t1
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>>158974096
i wouldn't
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>>158974539
Double-click then.
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>>158973973
He protected his face from your 3/2 while hitting yours for 2. It's not really a bad play since that's about the only chance you'll get to use Assassin's storm ability in take two.
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>>158974124
You do realize elf is rivaling control sword for the most expensive deck right? And dragoncraft decks are pretty fucking expensive too, except for face dragon. (You still need 3 Fortes)
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>>158974517
Why use imp lancer if Dark general can do better and cost less?

Queen vampire is so shitty rigth now
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>>158974568
Because most of the meta is birds even if it's not the best deck:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/43/0/63
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>>158974619
I got strong Sword and Haven decks thanks to luck already, but I want to go out of my way and win with Forest and Dragon instead of being bored to death.
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>>158974176
>mad he can't shekel his way into wins
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>>158974130
Are there webms of her other emotes?
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>>158974696
The deck doesn't give a rat's ass about Vengeance.
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>>158974714
God Storm Haven was such a fucking mistake.
I really hope they completely dismantle that deck.
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>>158974696
Because that build gets rid of Blood Pacts and Bloodfangs and puts in Mini Soul Devils, so you're not doing as much damage to yourself to activate vengeance in the early game.

Imps are slower but more reliable.
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>>158974696
you won't be in vengeance by turn 6
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>>158974696
Because 99/100 times you're not in that close a race. Aggro only starts getting hit after their cards are depleted since any competent player will be busy removing your stuff. You will almost always never be in a position to use Dark General when you want to.
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>>158974696
Because Dank general is conditional.
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>>158974772
I'll make them later
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>>158974590
turn 3 is not the time to give up all board control
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>>158974589
Now the whole picture's blue. What do I click now?
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>>158974216
>gee why dont u play retarded face decks like 70% of ladder and want to play something interesting instead?
I dunno m8
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63Ezi.63Ezi.6736i.6736i.6737K.6737K.6737K.63Kb4.63Kb4.63Kb4.673s2.673s2.678UI.5_TGo.5_TGo.63MII.63MII.63MII.675Yo.675Yo.63KbE.63KbE.63KbE.67ARI.67ARI.67ARI.63Jsg.65GMo.65GMo.63HQ6.63HQ6.678UI.5_TGo.63Kaw
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>>158974947
The big red X to offset the blueishness.
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>>158974053
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>>158974791
>>158974829
>>158974835
>>158974841
>>158974860
So i can use a variation with Dark general and Blood pact?

Why this deck have removal? the faires and banner memes are that memer?
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I shouldn't have won this. He had Forte and instead killed one of my Vania at one point putting him in perfect range for me to play my other, evo, then play Night Horde to swing it.
I can't wait to be in a rank where people understand when it's good to trade and when to go face.
>>
Where do I find some good budget decks? Finding a shitload of old or broken links.
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>>158975029
That's not removal, buddy, that's face damage
>>
What's the top Tempo Forest deck now?
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>>158975029
No, just copy what works, General will be a brick 90% of the time you want her to work while Imp will always do her job..
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>>158975032
Why would you ever want to rank up and make your dailies harder
>>
newfag with no knowledge of HS here. played it because waifus

can someone explain tempo to me?
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>>158975076
Check the reddit thread. It has a lot of good decks, but you'll need some common understanding of cards to tech stuff in.
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>>158974887
He didn't really give up board control since he still had Fencer. Assassin can die to Whole-Souled Swing too and you could then play another 2 cost follower. Then it's basically the same thing as if you used Floral Fencer except you didn't use any evolve points.
>>
>tfw Bishop is one of my most played decks
>People will think I'm a budget aggro when reality I am Seraph
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>>158975029
You wanna know what a turn spent playing Blood Pact is?
A turn not spent hitting face or playing something that can hit face.
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>>158975076
Birds, Healsluts, Bats and Banner are all cheap as fuck, face dragon is cheapish since it's 12k~ and most of that cost are the 3 Fortes.
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>>158975190
you can go up to the Ds or Cs to get the rank gold rewards
plus you also get to play the game against people who know what they're doing, i guess
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Does any other craft have a bannermeme equivalent? Cheap but effective?
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>>158975201
Playing on-curve
1 drop on 1, 2 drop on 2, 3 drop on 3
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>>158975267
Eh it can definitely help though if your draws were shit
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Impression of this variation?

>>158975078
Kek get it
>>158975169
But if i use blood pact,wolf and and ambling wrath is like 100% of getting revenge
>>158975267
I was thinking in something like this this make sense
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>>158974717
Still 14k vials won't cut it for forest. (3x tia 3x ancient elf 3x cynthia/ptp 3x roach are like the basics for a good forest deck) Zirnitras is pretty subpar and isn't really used and Fafnir requires a bunch of other legendary/gold support cards.
Though I guess if you want to play dragon you can always craft 3x Forte since she's staple in 90% of the dragon decks and start with a face dragon deck.
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>>158974979
Maybe -1 Spirit Cycle +1 Phantom Howl just to help burst ability against the decks you need it for. 11 damage on turn 6 is retarded aggro but it's effective.

Also, I'd replace Charons with Urds. Charons are very shadow-hungry in what is already a shadow-hungry deck, and you have a lot of Urd-friendly cards. Feels like a waste, and Urds also help against Crystalia Eves.

Maybe sub out something for a second Mordecai as well to combo with Urds. It's old school, but a lot of decks have used up banishes by late game and/or only run 1 Odin, etc,, and you get another chance to Urd+Mordecai if the first does get banished. In my limited experience, I've also found that Mordecai occasionally does fuck up Haven plans to Themis since they can't deal with both him and everything else.
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>>158975201
It literally just means momentum
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>>158975425
right
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>>158975246
He took 1 extra face damage over a hard counter against any evolve play and Whole-Souled Swing would have fucked him just as much either way against a 2/2 or a 1/1 with bane.

There is no world where that play wasn't objectively wrong.
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>>158975426
getting revenge is worse than winning the game
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>>158975426
I really hate that, I think Imp is miles better
But take it to ranked and report back on Dark General's success or lack thereof
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>Play against 4 aggro decks in a row
>Switch to a deck that's good against aggro
>No more aggro decks
Every fucking time
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>>158975512
>>158975371
hmm... so basically using most of your play points during your turn?
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Need help for private dailies
ID:59879
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>>158975356
>>158975306
Bats are 6k, Birds and Healsluts are 7k, Healsuts can go to 15k if you want to tech in Seraphs, Banner is sub 5k, Face Dragon is 12k~.
>>158975426
>But if i use blood pact,wolf and and ambling wrath is like 100% of getting revenge
Yes, by making your deck worse you'll die faster which will turn on General.
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Isn't it like 24 hours left on getting the ding dong sleeves? It says Nov 1 12:59 am.
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Does anyone have that Rhinoceroach combo damage image that featured different type of combos?
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>>158975638
You do know that 12:59am is not 11:59pm, right?
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How much metagaming happens at c rank? Im not sure if I should start forcing my points down
>>
why all the retarded anime girl shit
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>Forbidden Rituals against an aggro deck
Because I'm totally going to play more cards when I already have 3-4 followers out when I can wait a turn and combo out damage anyways.

>>158975190
I'd like a fun challenge more than I'd like easy dailies.

>>158975638
12:59am for you must be in 2 hours.
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>>158975681
Here you go anon
http://gelbooru.com/images/b0/8b/b08b3dbc78e4b4462d98828897cb6dea.png
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>>158975570
What craft are you playing? Just tech something in that helps you deal with it.

>Mfw I try to run seraph and get matched vs blood aggro
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>>158975246
there is no fucking chance that a 2/2 and 2 face damage are more valuable than an assassin on turn 4 of an arena game dude
if you leave an assassin on board you force your opponent to either make a bad trade, waste mana or spend removal
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Any tips on how to properly play a bloody mary deck, or just how to properly build one?
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>>158975426
Why are you trying so hard to make questionable alterations to a deck that got a 27 win streak in masters?
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>>158975681
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>>158975721
I got to B0 without any difficulties running Purgatory Forestcraft. The ladder is pretty free for the most part, but I dunno if it's just farming steam newfriends or something.
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>>158975835
Yeah
Wait until it's good and then build it
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>>158975767
I was playing Seraph too and I ran into 3 fucking bloods in a row, so I decided to switch to Elana and then bam, no more aggro! Just PtP
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>>158975595
Thank you senpai
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>>158975886
I'm building it whether its good or not.
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>>158975579
Tempo means being ahead of your opponent in terms of hand, board, etc.
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>>158975487
Do you really think that my problem are control matchups?
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>>158975854
>dumb tripfag
>making good decisions

Pick one.
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>>158975863
could also be that it's the best deck in the game
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Pro tip: if you dont put atleast 2-3 olivias as a stable in every deck you make you are a LITERAL retard.

reminder: if you say olivia is a bad card in constructed/arena then please, kill yourself and make sure its painful.

Olivia literally breaks the game.
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>>158975897
I had the opposite problem, I keep running into control/temp and decided to switch to seraph and then instantly got bat aggro.
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>>158975797
I already said how Whole-Souled Swing would make the Assassin useless. It's not a waste at that point since it only does 2 damage and he had 3 evolve points for removal later. Sword mirrors usually turn into damage races so taking the 2 damage wasn't that bad.
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>>158975863
>i got to B0 playing an s tier deck

no fucking shit
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>>158975857
Is this for people who can't count?
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>>158975630
and if i use bloody meme?

>>158975569
Tested it in low ranks and was successful against every famous deck but i don't have a chance to fight against florest
I know this don't have any credit

>>158975854
I'm just discussing it, this deck was so smooth in some games and everyone keep saying how dark general is bad since her saved me a couple of times.Do you list is exactly like that?
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>>158976005
t. Storm Haven player
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>>158975983
so.... just another word for "advantage"?
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>>158975994
>>158976040

Yeah, it's totally degenerate. I just mean that nobody runs meta decks for awhile so there's no need to not play ranked even if you don't have cards. HS is meta decks from rank 20 to legend.
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>>158975854
are there any cheap decks in hearth that are competitive, my friend keeps trying to get me to play it but it looks ptw as fuck
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>alexander can attack 14 times a turn
>not two
>not five
>fucking fourteen
Literally why? What situation do you have to be to need to attack 13 minions and survive to attack the 14th time?
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>>158975863
You went from D0 - B0 (place where the noobs assmble) with the maybe highest tiered and most expensive deck without problems?
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>>158975764
https://exhentai.org/g/787987/662a187afe/
https://exhentai.org/g/849138/6ff0bf2c5d/
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>>158975201
The cards you can play are limited to your available ma- "play points". This means you are limited in how you can affect the board state, like playing followers or removing followers.
Cards are (mostly) balanced around this mechanic, so 1 play point is roughly equal to a minion with specific status values. If the follower has an (positive) effect, usually the status values are worse to offset the positive effect.

So what's a tempo play now? Simply to get most bang for your buck. Like using synergies to get 4 points worth of stats for 3 points used. Or using a follower with built in ping to remove an enemy follower, so that you have a 2 point stat value follower on the board and removed a 3 value follower for 3 points spent.

The idea is something along the lines of: your X points contest the enemys X points. If you have 3 points on the board then the enemy will have to spent 3 points to clear it. If you always spent your points every turn like a good boy and your opponent didn't, then he has to catch up by making a play that's worth more than the points he has available (normally that's an AoE)
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>>158976135
>not getting the reference
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>>158976132
Why don't you go ask /hsg/
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>>158976005
>put 9 drop in aggro deck
>win before turn 9
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>158975476
I'm only D3, wouldn't either be fine even with missing cards?
Oh and I already have some golds, like roaches and genesis dragons.
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>>158975985
Phantom Howl also serves as another minion clearer, and if you want to improve odds against aggro, Spirit Cycle is too slow. The few JP control shadow decks I've seen seem to just run 1 copy.

Also, what is the point of having Skullwidows and Necroelementist and not having Urd?
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>>158975854
what's the list for that one exactly
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How reroll in steam version?
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>>158975835
Jam a Mary or two in bats, most of the time she'll die but if she lives hoo boy, how do you like 5 damage to the face for 2 PP?
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>>158976005
>NINE-drop
lmao
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Just pulled these from my starter boosters. Are Lord of the Flies and Odin common legendaries or did I just get lucky pulling multiples?

Regardless, are they worth starting with?
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As a new player to this game is it reasonable to assume that I can find a good deck to play by what I play in other card games? Namely MtG

I play Blue and Blue/Black
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>>158976132
>mid shamans, aggro shamans, mid hunters, zoolocks all t1 top of t2 decks
Gee i dunno.
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>>158976219
olivia is literal damage control that cant fail. even in a fucking face deck she makes sure you have all the evolves u need to make any kind of comeback.

fuck off faggot.
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what do the little stars mean?
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>>158976067
Yes, it's the same list I posted earlier in this picture. >>158974517
If you want consistency, you'll want to get rid of the Dark Generals since people will know how to play against you more as you rank up.
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I should be amused by someone DCing, but this is just wasting time I could be playing another match in.
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>daily quests
>win 1 match with dragoncraft
>win 4 matches with dragoncraft
>win 6 ranked matches

>main dragoncraft

YES YES YES
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I'm so glad the best aggro deck in the game also has access to the best board clear in the game. What a good, well designed class. I'm so happy most of my matches are against this fun, amazing deck! This meta is such a joy to play! Thank you Cygames, for making Storm Haven a reality. You even gave them a removal spell with reach so wards are completely useless, a bold but clever choice!
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>>158976368
means after you level up you get another quest in that series, so probably reach lvl20 or 25
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>>158976314
No, there's no traditional control here.
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>>158976005
>implying most games go to turns 12/13 to take advantage of the evolves
>Implying she isn't just a win-more card in most matchups
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>>158976368
Tiers?
Now you get too lvl 15 and you get 2 stars.
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>>158975854
Win streaks mean fairly little If you play infinite games then you will have a period of time where your win streak is infinite games long.
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>>158976350
>all require paid adventure cards
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>>158976285
typical response of a aggro face sword player.
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>>158976414
I actually wasn't sure if you were talking about Aggro blood and Revelation there until you said Storm Haven
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>>158976237
Well if it's for D3 I think you can get away with 14k vials making an incomplete deck. But you can really do that with any other deck.
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>>158976447
She's literally only used in top heavy decks like CSword and CSword is the only top heavy deck in the meta so yeah.
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>>158976486
>third worlder cant spend 40$ on the card game
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>>158976314
Look into Runecraft and Shadowcraft. They seem somewhat similar to U/UB, theme-wise at least.
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>>158976046
yes, isnt it obvious?
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>>158976025
Not only is that a shitty argument ("but what if he happens to have this one specific card?"), but even if he does have it he's wasting damage, and God help him if he doesn't ALSO have another small card to play that turn.
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>>158976371
Thanks hope Vania be in the next masters
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>>158976240
Look here >>158974517
>>158976485
That's not going to cut it for reasoning in the highest levels of play.
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>>158976447

Olivia is a win more card and a come back card. most people dont realize this because they are too busy hitting face with 1 drops as sword and blood.
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>>158976528
Aggro blood runs the 6 PP do 3 damage to everything, not Revelation.
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Is dusting rose and fairy princess a bad idea or is that combo absolute shit?
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>>158976598
>any cheap decks in hearth that are competitive
>it looks ptw as fuck
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>>158976126
The reason to hold off on ranking up is that your rank also determines who you get matched with on unranked mode, which makes it harder to do your dailies.
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>>158976314
>f2p mobile shit for kids
>control
Just go face dude, its so much fun! :^)
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>>158976742
Those two legendaries are awful and most would suggest you vial them unless you REALLY like the card's art.
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what is the fastest way to get the cards for the decks I want to play? should I just liquify anything that isn't needed? are there some cards that I should keep no matter what? I got 2 lucifers and an odin from my free packs.
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>>158976314
Dshift is basically weird version of timewalk
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>>158975983
People need to stop giving advice if they don't understand something. I know you mean well but you're confusing poor anons like >>158976109

Tempo is kind of abstract but it's a general measure of your control over the game state. It's separated from advantage because advantage counts hard numbers and value, while tempo is a looser measure of development.

An advantage play is Angelic Barrage on a 3 bats, you generate advantage but you've used up your PP to answer the play which gives the opponent initiative. A tempo play is Spartoi Soldier on a field of bats, you're technically behind but now they're forced to answer your play while you can leisurely proceed with your choice of follow up.
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>>158976742
>not playing fun meme combo decks
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>>158976764
>40$ in ccg's
>p2w
Third worlder, pls go.
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>>158976820
I mean, if you do, you still keep the emblems, so not much lost there.
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This meta is such a fucking shitty aggrofest I don't even want to play anymore. And now fucking aggro blood is tier 1 so that deck's going to be everywhere too.
How did they fuck everything up so bad in one expansion?
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>>158976787
Elana is cheap.
>>158976858
Liquify only junk or dupes, never good cards, doesn't matter if you don't intend on making the deck any time soon.
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what do? I dont have any win conditions in my deck, but i dont have any answers for mordekai and the like
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>>158976171
hmm.. if i currently have 2 play points and i dropped a 1 1/1 storm, and a 1 "destroy follower, draw 2 cards". is this a tempo or a combo?

if i have a 3 play points, and dropped a 2 2/1, that summons a 3/3 after getting killed, and using the 1 "destroy follower get cards", is this a tempo?

im sorry, im kinda slow.
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>>158976913
and thats why cygames has my money while blizzjews dont
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>>158976971
elana is not cheap unless you replace all the legendaries with poorfag alternatives
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>not memeing in arena
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How do ranks work in this game? Will I end up masters with a 20% win rate if I play for long enough?
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>>158977102
>all the legendaries

You mean the 2 seraphs?
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>>158977102
the fuck are you on, elena runs 0 legendaries.
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>>158977139
Not with a winrate that low. You can probably get away with a 40% winrate if you play enough.
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>>158975512

this. but what it translates to in game means 'playing the boardstate with minions', so you trade instead of going for face and play the highest cost minion you can per turn.
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>>158977035
>while blizzjews dont
Sure, third worlder. And go to the factory for your 1000$ salary
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>>158976820
>REALLY like the card's art
In that case, I'm dusting my 2 princesses
I can't quit rose's booty and I don't need that much dust right now
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>>158977152
>elana
>seraphs
??

>>158977193
you ideally want lucis over curate
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So, what should I reroll for if I'm primarily in this for husbandos?
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>>158976239
Anyway, I'm about to go, so here's a control shadow list:

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63Ezi.63Ezi.5_RZQ.63HQ6.63HQ6.6737K.6737K.6737K.63Kb4.63Kb4.63Kb4.673s2.673s2.678UI.61PnY.61PnY.5_TGo.5_TGo.5_TGo.63Kaw.63Kaw.63MII.63MII.63MII.63KbE.63KbE.63KbE.67ARI.67ARI.63Jsg.63Jsg.65GMo.65GMo.5_RZQ

The idea behind 2x Undying Resentment and 2x Tempest is that the top priority is to survive the early game so you need removal, and there are 2 Necroelementists and Urds to sub in for the 3rd Tempest.
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>>158977248
>third worlder
>1000$ salary
Do you even leave your room?
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>>158977248
1000 dollars ? fuck this would be a dream here.

Factory work would be 400 dollars at max if you work 10 hours for day
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>>158976641
By leaving out Assassin by itself you're really just hoping the opponent has no removal or low cost followers at all which is unlikely in arena. Might as well hit for 2 face damage early while definitively having something on the board.
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>>158977102
Elana runs no leggos, Seraph is a tech at best and Moon bunny is a luxury, Luci is nice but same case as bunny.
>>158977354
Tech against other Elanas or random CSwords.
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NEW THREAD WITHOUT THE (embed)s!
>>158977445
>>158977445
>>158977445
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>>158977378
Sword
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>>158977378
Dragoncraft, Spanish Vampire, or Burly --Swordcraft dude.
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>>158977248
I fucking wish I could get 1k dollaridoos a month for factory work here.
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>>158977132
>lose to memes
>be this butthurt
topkek
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>>158977029

s-send help
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>>158977627
Both sucks but i would go odin if you don't have good basic cards to go face
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>>158977627
right for sure, dracomancer's rites couldnt be more of a dead card if it tried
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>>158977627
Never pick a useless card if you can help it.

Dracomancer fucking sucks.
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>>158977627
Sorry anon, thats really shitty choice to make, while Odin is great its with a literally dead card
Flute can actually work in arena because it gives you board control
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>>158976135
5 bone chimeras
Makes exactly 14 1/1 Skeletons
they did ze math
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>>158977601
>>158977450
>tfw have done literally 0 productive work this whole month and just drank 50 litres of free coffee and ate ungodly amounts of free food
pretty dank, thanks CS degree
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>>158977465
You're acting like a fucking 2/2 is so much more resistant to removal than a 1/1 against Sword. The odds that your opponent won't have the perfect answer and that a Bane creature will mess up his turn/curve are worth much more than 1/1 in stats and 2 face damage.
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>my first few rerolls was getting like 5 decent/good leggos
>"I can do better than that."
>three hours later
>keep getting rolls with like 3 shit leggos
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>>158978478
Had 3/8 good rolls yesterday. Thought I could do better. Today, not a single decent roll in 15.
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>Don't want to leave C rank
>Have to concede twice for every win I get.

Why can't you need a >50% win rate to rise through the ranks?
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I installed the JP voices and then switched back to ENG

as much as the story mode eng voices are annoying, its even more annoying on the text doesnt match at all what they are saying in nip, also the eng voices on the cards are more memetastic
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How bad is the grind in Shadowverse compared to Hearthstone if I want to be able to competently play multiple classes?
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>>158979148
why play ranked if you're just going to concede? Dailys?
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>>158977132
Memeing is fun but I prefer to get carried to 5 wins with OP classes myself.
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>people unironically defend player 2 getting three evolves

I don't give a fuck what the statistics were like before the change, remove this shit. Give player two some other benefit. When so many classes run three of the overpowered turn 4 evolve cards it's fucking infuriating dealing with player two getting to evolve for tempo and for big plays without being punished.

>just fought a sword who used all three evolves on floral fencer
>this puts me in a shitty position the whole game
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>>158979852
I do think the extra evolve is too much too
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>Runecraft takes 3 turns in a row to end the game

Did I just get school yard bullied, where I don't even get turns anymore?
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>>158978478
May your despair become your liberation
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>tfw taking a steaming fat dump on a AA2 opponent in take two after he's emoted at me for 6 turns straight
DOGMA'd
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>>158969480
Is there any way to play Rage of bahamut if i dont speak nip?
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Isn't Rage of Bahamut literally just any other collect cards watch them fight with a button mobile game?
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>>158979852
You could run 3x Floral Fencer pre DE too and the balance of 1st vs 2nd was fine.

what changed was the addition of cards like Tia that benefit heavily from going 2nd. Those are the cards that need to be looked at.
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