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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

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The white were right
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Happy Halloween /smtg/!

Are you guys doing anything special today?
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I just want to beat the game and get it over with so I can switch back to War or even conflict in NG+ because this has been the worst hell ever

I barely got the first 2 fiends but had to go through it twice to kill them. Had to pray for anticthons to miss for Vishnflynn

I can't even get close to beating Cleo, the horde is a struggle cause I don't have null nerve/mind on everyone or an accessory for myself because they cost millions of macca thanks to inflated prices and then I get one shot by cleo

And those misses those fucking misses. Fuck those fucking misses.

Fuck Apocalypse difficulty. Mistakes were made.
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>>158952016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXkvn2ctcm4&list=PLD47E2F9DB3524C41
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I'm gonna take Nebiros and Belial away from Alice and make them look after me instead!
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>>158952320
Gonna buy a bunch of pokemon cards since the newest card set came out.

Also playing DDS2.
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>dark theme during the day so my screen has a bunch of glare
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>>158952320
I was gonna download the Festival of Blood DLC for inFamous 2, but PSN is under maintenance.

Fuck this shit, if the download takes too long when I come home, I'll just watch movies and play DeSu2.
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Beanster is a faggot
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>>158952320
Studies.
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>going to a friends party tonight
>my friend is gonna splooge on Silent Hill and SMT
>too bad he'll just be a smug cunt thinking he's top shit in SMT and some Silent Hill
>All in his tiny ass room
>At least we'll play Smash, on his tiny LCD monitor

How's your day /smtg/
And Happy Halloween-ho!
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We don't celebrate halloween where I live.
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>>158953356
sorry
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>>158952737
>not buying Final Fantasy cards now that the TCG is finally out in the US/UK

I really want a MegaTen card game. Again
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So what are some tips to beating Cleo on Apocalypse difficulty?

I think so far what I've gathered

-No diarahan, mediarahan, or salvation anywhere lest she charms anyone and heals back all 41k of her hp
-or getting null mind and such
-Get demons res to light, maybe null/drain/refl could work but AI will be smart
-have heavy Dark/Light skills to cover both her weaknesses when she swaps
-defense against wind/loss?
-Does makarakarn work against her?

What else?
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>>158952320
I'm going to watch the best horror movie ever made, Evil Dead 2.
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>>158954709
Well if we learned anything from history, she poisoned herself to prevent capture
That should be a good enough hint
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>>158953435
Literally incomprehensible greentext, my man.
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>>158954709
She doesn't have dekunda so debuff her to hell and back.
She does have luster so she will try to candy herself so she isn't constantly at -3, but just try to keep her at that level she stays weak and she wastes turns using luster candy.
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>>158954921
>She does have luster so she will try to candy herself
Why though?

She is candy enough.

I want her as my prize for trick-or-treat.
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Does anyone have a clean transparent image of the smirk icon and kana that come with it?
I want to make an OC smirk image.
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>>158952320
I'm going to beat Jack Bros on stream.
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how many demon schlongs do you think nozomi has taken?
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>>158956220
Probably 3 a day
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>>158956065
post it, fag
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>>158956220
Noz0mi iz pUre! pure!1
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>>158956220
>Dog
>pure
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>>158956220
I'm sure part of her daily fairy queen duties involves being DP'd by Tam Lin and Oberon.
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>>158956220
why the peace route is shit
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What's up my dudes

I'm gonna fail this stats exam in an hour

Shin Megami Tensei
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>>158958514
Just get some incense, my dude.
That'll fix your stat problem.
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>>158958514
hopefully yourself from the other dimension comes to help you along with the other yous that failed in the past as well
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>got Toki in my party
>instant killed 3 Horde reinforcements in a row
Toki is great. Though she is trying to kill Flynn. Isn't that my job?
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>>158959067
>instant killed 3 Horde reinforcements in a row
I always banked her, because she nver did this for me.
Her insta killed never killed anything for me.
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Im hunting for matador in smt 4 do i need to load the game or i just go out and re-enter the shelter again?
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>>158959801
Just re-enter over and over.
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>>158959708
Seems to work on a number of enemies for me, while around half of them survive it.
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HEAR
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What if SMTIVA had Holy Dance?
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Is Gaston ripped?
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>>158961619
Fire of Sinai
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Post game ideas for possible SMT games based on the side games
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>>158961468
It literally never works for me.
She either doesn't do it or "she didn cut deep enough"
The only time it worked was when it was against one individual demon that would have died to my hades blas/javelin rain anyway.
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>>158961826
SMT following the life and how he dies for our sins to save mankind from the apocalypse and demons that are ravaging the land.
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>>158960493
No, you have to reload after saving outside to find fiends
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>>158959708
>>158961468
She's nowhere near as good as advertised. Don't believe the Toki shills.
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>>158963236
>using toki for most of the game for random battles
>she randomly instant kills hordes
>her shit even works on metatron hordes

She's ridiculously good for grinding anon, hate all you want but that shit is good. And it increases as she gets awakening.
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>>158963394
Smile Charge + Judgement Light

All you need for grinding. Toki's instant kill is extremely unreliable. It's just not worth it.
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>>158961892
It's based off of your Lu. I wouldn't know honestly, she has been insta-killing a good chunk of enemies for me.

>>158963236
She seems pretty nift so far, just learned how to attack during enemies turn. Seems like a fun skill.
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>>158964851
Oh she's pretty good in random battles. Just not a random battle god.
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>>158964851
>It's based off of your Lu.
I went world of STR+LU and it never worked for me.
These were my stats when I was LVL 83 I think.
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>>158964958
Oh yea, she has been slaughtering random battles. Good for clean ups.

>>158965189
I was just talking out of my ass, I have no idea what makes her insta-kill work. For all I know, it could have a better success rate by being higher leveled than the enemy.
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>>158965631
Oh yeah I just saw your spoiler tag, I am probably just really unlucky ormaybe it was because she knew I liked Asahi better.
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I've really warmed up to this game. Coming off from DDS, sure it's a way more casual experience - not being able to control my party members was a huge wtf moment - but the more I play the more I get it's a whole different game.

Also has Atlus ever made a soundtrack that isn't absolutely 10/10?
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>>158966341
>Coming off from DDS
Careful. The huge jump of quality might leave you a bit dizzy.
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>>158966341
i didn't find the SJ soundtrack too hot
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Be sure the gods and demons toying with you don't cause you to lose your way...
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Make sure to vote for your favorite mainline game here. http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
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>>158966341
Even after trying out many other Atlus games and RPGs in general, P3 is one of those games that still holds a special place in my heart <3

And the OST of SJ is not very good.
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>>158967220
>>158966486
Damn, I fucking love SJ's ost especially the battle themes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3YcANVqmIM
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>>158967338
Wasn't a huge fan of the OST, I did like the law theme though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqJuIxdyNkM
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>>158966869
>FINAL is winning.

Based /smtg/.
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>>158966341
DeSu2 imo, there are a couple tracks that are okay but most of them are very bland and forgettable
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>>158966341
>has Atlus ever made a soundtrack that isn't absolutely 10/10?

Strange Journey
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>>158967338
Only issue is repetitive nature. Dungeon themes sound same and only 6 dungeon themes for 9 dungeons. One plays once, and another only plays halfway through a dungeon.
Plus would be nice to have a unique theme for Fiends and route final bosses not Mem Aleph. Feels budget.
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>>158967338
>>158967792
I like some of its songs, but I don't love the whole package.
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>>158968010
For whatever reason I thought Golden was a pretty big step down from P4

DDS was 20/10 though
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I love how all the songs in SJ sound like a god or demon is singing them. It might not be the best soundtrack but it's definitely the most unique
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>>158968950
Who would think that a bunch of HEE-HOs could sound so deep and badass.
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Is there a script/translation guide for SMT I and I?
I want to play the PS1 versions.
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>>158968665
They really should have added more things to it.
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it sucks that there's no high quality version of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFDEt5ljKhA
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IT'S POKIN' TIME
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>>158956782
>DP'd by Tam Lin
Tam Lin has a dick???
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>>158973846
He gives you the Tam
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>>158968950
I really like it. Even if its not the most listenable of soundtracks, It gives it this different feeling than all the other games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWOSBA_M_Cg
this song is awesome though
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Macca Beam. Hope everyone has a happy Halloween.
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Is almighty skills worth running in Final? Might be just me but they seem lackluster,

>>158974873
y-you too.
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>>158975137
dunno about lackluster, but I run pierce on most demons, so I aint using them that much
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>>158975137
They are place holders until you get pierce skills.
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Spent 140 on a new fucking vita after my old one broke, hoping to get another playthrough of p3p or golden in before February and it still hasn't come when its supposed to be here today. Just grand.
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>>158975286
>>158975345
Oh ok, thanks. I guess it's just me but they do little damage.
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>>158975409
Hallelujah's change always bothered me. It's practically a recolor, and I wish they could have added a bit more to his design.
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>>158976027
Like what?
His sprite animation changes of that makes it any better.
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>>158974708
That's pretty good
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>You can feel the presence of a terrifying demon.
>Will you stay here?
>Yes/No
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>>158976763
>Yes
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>>158976763
No
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>>158976225
Thinking about it now, I'm not really sure. They can't really change his hair or his clothes, so that was probably the best they could do without looking weird.
I still don't like it though. Maybe it's the colors.
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>>158976763
Yes
(Starts furiously jerking off)
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Hey, give me a Life Stone!
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>>158977675
>takes off clothes and furiously masturbates
>fiend comes and looks at you afraid and disgusted
>tosses you the candelabra
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>>158977347
They tried to give him a lighter version of samyaza color scheme sort of I think.
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Your favorite smt apocalypse song. What is it?
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>>158979306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SddAj-jPk5o
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>>158979306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hy43z5oar0
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>>158979642
This was my favorite song in Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse as well.
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When does final come out in Australia? Is this going to be like IV where I'll have to wait years just to get an eshop release?
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>>158980020
Just pirate my dude, that's what I did since I don't think it's out in Europe yet
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>>158979306
This desu, it's such a good song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5XZzTq_gzI
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>>158969272
>tfw no translation
i wish i wasn't so hopeless when it came to low level stuff
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>>158980245
My 3ds is stuck on a version that would be a huge pain in ass to hack so I guess I'll just have to be patient and hope. Its not a huge deal for me anyway because I've got huge backlog of smt game that I never beat.
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>>158980738
Ah, not much you can do but wait for fatlus to release or hackers to catch up to newer firmware then.

Sure is fun not being american isn't it
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>>158980980
smt is the only series that I care about that really fucks over ausfags. I'm just confused about why they take so long to bring anything over to here and europe.
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>>158979306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjN7yb5SsJo
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Is Krishna the best smt villain?
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>>158981486
No dedicated publisher outside USA and JP.
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>>158952320
Im studying for an exam tommorow and drawing reverse traps and im doing pretty gud.
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REPENT

REPENT

BE CURSED
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Top 5 smt games incoming.
1. Persona 5
2. SMT4 apocalypse
3. Smt4
4. Smt x fe
5. Persona q
What are yours?
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>>158952320
No. All suffering and despair here.
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which smt game makes being a law or chaos fag be a reasonable choice and not make you look like some delusional puppet?
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>>158983305
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this theme gave me cancer
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>>158981854
To be the best, first he'd need to be a villain
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>SMT5 uses the P5 engine as a PS4/Switch release
>it has even more dialogue, cut-scenes, generic animu waifus and generally even more cheese than Apocalypse

Do you accept this future, /smtg/?
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https://dijehtranslations.wordpress.com/2016/10/31/the-other-face-of-the-demon-artist-kaneko-kazuma/
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>>158984467
SMT2 had Chaos as the logical choice.
Nocturne made True Demon the best choice because it portrayed all your fellow humans are terrible people
Literally every single route in Devil Survivor other than Yuzu's makes sense
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>>158979306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLuFgGlg9GY&list=PLm30gZxZ3k4Dzak-6liaDwpdAgR8l0zF8&index=29
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>>158985473
yeah, as long as the gameplays good, I can always go back and play nocturne.
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>>158983305
Is it a club or a naginata?
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>>158986039
naginata it would have to be a dumbass shaped club otherwise
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>>158985643
>Well, it also has to do with my Mara’s response (laughs).

Kaneko pls
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>It’s not to say that they like sex, but they do understand it and do it if they understand it; I love this kind of interpretation. Even tiny Pixie understands what it means. If it happens, how does it work? What does she do? You know, stuff like that.
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>>158985643
>The editor seems to have loved the Angel of the time of Devil Summoner though.

>How should I put it, it was really well hidden back then, since her lower part was naked. But I wonder. What if a dick is hidden in there?
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>He’s got a carrot for a nose, but when he assaults women, the nose disappears. I wonder where it goes (laughs).
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hello friends new to series and I only have a 3ds which persona is a good starting point?

I read the starter guide image but I am retarded and am going to ask anyway
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>>158987713

Play soul hackers. That one is the best persona.
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>>158986782
>But I wonder. What if a dick is hidden in there?

I think I'm going to need to see art of this to fully comprehend what he's suggesting.
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>>158987713
I heard etrian odyssey was a good starting point for the devil survivor series.
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>>158987713
Wizardry
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>>158987713
My asian roomate told me that SMT IV is the best Trauma Center game for the 3DS.
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>>158989050
He just wants to kick your 3ds.
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>Bewitching beauties Mara and Arioch.
>Yatagarasu and Ancient Nio Emperors were all part of YHVHs gang.
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>>158989653
Does Bead Man still not get Massacre isn't Law?

I dont go to reddit
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>>158952320
I had a test and I'm waiting for some papers to get here because I got my debit card stolen.

This is the worst Halloween ever.
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>>158990664
Shiiiit that sucks anon. Im always paranoid about losing my cards, especially with chips in them now that can just bypass the debit PIN all together like a credit card.
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>>158989653
Why are lawfags always the most rampant shitposters?
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>>158990664
How did you get your debit card stolen?
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>>158985473
I'd be cool with it if the characters were handled as well as they are in Persona, instead of feeling like a cheap knockoff of Persona.
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>>158989653
Who the fuck is Bead Man
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>>158988356
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>>158991142
Must've, fell out of my wallet and I didn't notice. Then I noticed a bunch of charges I didn't authorize.
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>>158952320
I made a cheap /co/ costume, and should probably go it a bar or something later.
CW style, black and yellow Reverse Flash.
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>>158991520
>CW style, black and yellow Reverse Flash.
That's pretty cool. How did you make it on the cheap?
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>>158991350
Literally memes.
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>>158989653
I don't get it. Alien was the first thing I thought when I saw Satan, am I wrong?
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>>158992532
Yellow short sleeved hoodie, look on Amazon and you'll likely find the same one I used but it is $20 so be warned if you really want to be cheap, printed out an iron on, and a black long sleeve shirt under it. Ideally, wear black pants.
Cheap, simple, and half the time, the actors have the cowl down anyway, so you're perfectly fine with a hoodie.
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>>158986768
>do you want the pixie onahole
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>>158991350
A meme shitposter who wanted to Meggido Ark SMTG in the name of Law
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>>158994683
Isn't he Bunker Man as well?
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>>158994878
excuse me
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>stealing knowledge hates cleopatra's design

what a bunch of fags
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>>158995849
He's probably a homosexual
Cleo's design is pretty aces
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>>158974708
>>158968950
SJ's soundtrack is so great and comfy. Definitely the most soothing SMT game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVqSjlJISp8
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Guys I was at screamworld and I saw a blue mastema. He had the nose and looked extremely trustworthy.
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>>158981854
Mastema is better, especially after the shit he pulled in IV.
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>>158995887
>aces
More like tits
I mean, jesus.

Thank you, Doi.
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>>158995849
Probably reminds him of some Power Rangers villain.
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>>158995887
>>158995849
She has balloon tits stapled to her chest. It's pandering nonsense like much of Final.
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>>158997919
>Hating gigantic, love-filled breasts
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>>158997919
I know right, SMT never had demon chicks with their tits hanging out before.

It's stupid anime shit and it's problematic.
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>>158998325
That one has purple skin though. It's different.
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>>158998325
But that's not so bad. It's just a naked lady. Cleopatra has her tits out in lots of classic art, so that wouldn't be so bad either. It's just that she's got big anime titties for some reason.
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>>158998780
To emphasize the beauty she was known for.

The loser would complain even if her tits were small because they're whiny about new and new is different.
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For Twisted Tokyo, do the Fiends gain HP for every cycle passed?
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>>158999253
>To emphasize the beauty she was known for.
I guess that makes sense, if you're into that kind of thing.
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>>158999450
>Not liking boobs
Kyahaha! Failure as a human!
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>>158999450
Doi and Kaneko are both perverts.
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>>158999253
I'm more willing to take the "Vanillaware defense". Cleopatra, as a pop culture figure at the very least, is a personification of female sexuality as political power.

And so, in an idealized version, she would have an ample bosom to emphasize how powerful she is.

Etc etc etc.

It's different than defending the bust of a motherly, life-giving necromancer, but eh, you get it.
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>>158999520
I'm just not a fan of the size and shape Cleopatra has going on.
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>>158999574
Kaneko was definitely a more patrician pervert.

As far as we've seen, Doi has been comparatively vanilla.
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>>158999594
Yes that too.

The truth is she'd very likely be plain by modern standards. Also her tits wouldn't be covered. But most people would not know that.
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>>158999727
Doi made uncomfortable Mermaid.

Kaneko would have tits out and shameless.

I preferred Mer-Maid though.
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>>159000040
Uncomfortable loli mermaid was a mistake.
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Do you think Lucifer and Satan looked more Kaneko in IV verse before the shit that happened to them? Because their designs really only make sense within the specific context of the games.
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Is pic related supposed to be happening?
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>>159000269
Wrong. Non miserable and morbid Mermaids were a mistake and Doi is tasteful for ditching them in the concept stage.

I welcome debate as to if this concept art is better or worse than the final art.
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>>159000496
Yes, Gideon just couldn't into Variable Width. The mars symbol just shows the gender of the armor.
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>>159000496
>>159000692
stuff like this is why i think a retranslation would be worth a shot
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>>159000681
Add tears and flaming skulls first.
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>>159000681
It's better because she's not a loli.

Also what's with the flaming skulls? Is that some obscure mermaid myth?
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>>159000827
>>159000854
I'm willing to assume it has something to do with the miserable souls of drowned sailors, and maybe that mermaids supposedly don't have a soul and just dissolve into foam when they die, and they're probably aware of it and struggle with the nihilism.
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>>159000854
Some variations of Mermaids are ghost.
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i dont like the source shit in SJ, i end up carrying and wasting spots for demons that are completely useless and are only fusion fodder. I prefer the natural growth like in nocturne
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>Inanna concept art
Just Kaneko my shit up
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>>158985643
>No. I went to visit Taira no Masakado’s head mound while we were working on the Megaten series, but that is because I personally respect him. A different matter. There are a lot of facets to this. If we were to follow the theory that the Imperial Family is part of the Hebrew lineage, then he would also become the one who opposed the Jews. The imperfect hero, so to speak. It would be cool if that kind of man existed.
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>>159001959
The Jews fear the sahmurai
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>>159001959
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>159001424
Yeah, SMTIV goes back to Nocturne style which is nice.
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>play SMT 2
>get to tokyo millenium
>try the virtual battler
>keep getting bodied by gaean jirayas
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>>159003158
>>get to tokyo millenium
Where the fuck have you been?
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>>159003670
Ah, I mean The Center.
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https://dijehtranslations.wordpress.com/2016/10/31/the-other-face-of-the-demon-artist-kaneko-kazuma/

>The editor seems to have loved the Angel of the time of Devil Summoner though.

>How should I put it, it was really well hidden back then, since her lower part was naked. But I wonder. What if a dick is hidden in there? I keep that in mind and give my best whenever I draw Mara and others (laughs). Also, Arioch has fangs.

Law just keeps getting better and better.
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What is Yaldabaoth's deal in NINE? Any connection to YHVH?
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>>159003158
Once you get multi hit guns and nerve bullets you'll be good.
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>>159004259
>What if a dick is hidden in there?
The fuck Kaneko
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>>159004259
>What if a dick is hidden in there?
Sasuga.
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>filename is mentioned once in the entire game and never referenced again.
>Dagda and Odin history is brought up but never expounded upon.
What the fuck is up with this game?
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>>159004947
>What the fuck is up with this game?
I'd have to find it again, but I'm pretty sure one of the interviews somewhere mentioned some lore getting cut for time.
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>>159004947
Considering they had the law and chaos sides still around and added a totally cool new side, yet your only options for real endings are siding with one of two retards, what do you think?
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>>159004947
Yeah what the fuck was up with chiro?
Was he just hallys fuck buddy or something?
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>>159005214
Yeah probably, basically a pocket pussy.
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>>159004947
I wouldn't even remember it existed if not for it being more in the art than it is in the game.
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>>159004947
The entire time on my first playthrough I was expecting that little shit to come out and betray me in some form but it never happened. For all I know Hallelujah just deletes him from his comp when the party finds out he's a demon
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>>159005083
>time
Because they had to put all that effort into stuff like this, instead
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Never Forget
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>>159005990
If someone dies, then gets revived should you or should you not have a funeral?
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>>159006085
A funeral is to say goodbye, so no.
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>>159006085
Does your birthday change when you get brought back to life?
Maybe they should celebrate a birthday instead
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>I’m a normal guy. My preferences don’t show up in my work.

Huh.
I have my doubts about that, Kaneko. You just admitted that you're a huge porn hound.
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>>159007486
So he's a normal guy.
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Is it worth buying the High Phys Pleroma accessory if I plan to eventually farm for the Twisted Tokyo equipment?
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>>159008287
You won't need it. Just savescum on Cycle 2 En-no-Ozuno until you get his accessory, that one gives every High Pleroma all at once
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>>158992846
Anon look up the artist.
Alien was derived from Geiger too.
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>>159005484
Demon Partners don't betray their DEVIL CHILDREN.
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Mr. Thriller fusion fucking when?
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>>159010986
I kinda miss the pop culture demons, but I guess people would bitch and call them memes nowadays.
I do want Christine back, though.
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>>158984467
Fallout New Vegas
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Which has more depth: Nocturne or IV
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Sword Fusion in mainline fucking when?
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>>159000854
>It's better because she's not a loli.
Jesus fucking Christ. That shit taste.
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>>159012150
SMT 2 :^)
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>>159012148
SMT IV if only because it has more content
but Nocturne has the better content
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>>158984467
SMT II, Law is still a little crazy though most of the angels actually have benevolence for humanity in this one. Best game in the series route-wise.
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>>159012542

Never played it
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>>159012838
Gabriel and Satan is not most.
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>>159012976
Yes the other archangels and YHVH are assholes (big surprise) but the ones you can recruit rebel with you because they care about humanity.
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>tfw slept through halloween
Sorry, trick or treaters.
Oh well, guess I'll play Raidou 1 instead of spooky shit.

Also, should I bother with STR and LU in Raidou?
This sword fusion thing seems to make STR kinda useless now.
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>>159013293
>Yes the other archangels
Hey now, don't lump Mastema in with those tyrants.
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>>159013358
>trusting a nig
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Currently playing through DeSu overclocked.

Do the demon ratings from the auctions affect fusion at all? Is it safe to just grab shitty 1 star demons from the auctions and fuse them into stronger ones?
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>>159013496
He's just gray-skinned!
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>>159013570
High rated demons have better stats than the regular demon.

If you fuse a high rated demon, then the demon you make will have better stats.
If you fuse a low rated demon, then I think the demon you fuse will have lower stats.
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>>159013773
Skills I get, but I was hoping that wasn't the case when it came to stats. I've got to spend some time grinding then.

Thanks m8.
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>>159012976
I think their point wasn't most angels in it being nice, but rather that the ones who you are actually siding with are nice, and the asshole ones are your enemy rather than someone on your side.

The question here of course is who is where? Early in the game the archangels refuse to join you even if law. So are they not on the side of the center? Was that on purpose? What about the angels in endgame? How many of them are on your side versus against you? A bit is left unanswered.
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>>159013358
Mastema isn't in II though.
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>>159014685
I thought he was speaking in general.
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>>159000269
This mermaid should be the Apocalypse super Angel in the next SMT
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>>159015220
>next SMT
you mean persona
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I wish they brought back this cherub design. I'd love to see it in 3D.
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>>159015263
I forgot Apocalypse was Persona 4.5

Still waiting for Persona 5.5 called SMTV
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>>159015350
But what even is it? I don't know what I'm looking at. It seems like a ship being piloted by four angels on the inside each of which only have one wing for some reason? Also they're all small enough to fit in there?
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>>159015517
its a mechanical thing with wings not angels inside
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>>159015693
Why are there wings inside? It makes no sense.
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>>159013358
not an archangel
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Why is white rider the best horseman design.
It's the crown.
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>>159016637
The crown is pretty stylish. The pose in the art also helps.
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>>159016774
The crown itself makes his head less barren and gives a unique visible flair with him.
Sucks that he usually is the lowest level of the 4 fiends.
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Does anyone know what either of the symbols on this art is? The omega looking thing with the dot in it is repeated multiple times. Which makes it come off like its meant to be something specific.

http://www.fucinemute.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PKD_02.jpg

The top part kind of looks like this symbol derived from the Jesus fish. But that's a little vague.
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>>159017571
the one in the Dick pic probably represents the Pineal gland or the eye of horus, the one of the chrub i am not sure it could be the same.
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the white were right
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>>159019890
the right were white
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how do I make non shit demons?
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>IVA ng+
>Odin ebcounter
>does less than half hp damagw with concentrate and pierce
>you are not worthy, fight ends
Now that is some bullshit. Not even a sight change in lines?
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How come they just re sealed Krishna?
What happened to God killing
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>>159021490
Why would there be? You having ng+ powers aren't a canon part of the plot?
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>>159022602
Why do merkabah and lucifer arbitrarily not have that power despite having fused with humans deliberately to target eachother?

Why do they need a strong human when in theory all they need is to weaken a god, and then have a human deal the final blow?

How does loki kill the demon with him? Or does it not apply to regular demons for some reason?

Why is the entire thing contrived nonsense that makes no sense and trivializes demons to being effectively impotent?

The answer is because it was a shit concept and made no sense to begin with.
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>>159022747
But I don't get it, you murder YVHV, Mitra and Odin. yet poo in the loo is back to step one and any fool can just unseal
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>>159022857
That's because the part of the plot you don't realize is that you were playing everyone all along. You pretended to go along with everyone else to get rid of yhvh only to eventually re unseal krishna a second time to let him take over. The cosmic egg you destroyed was actually a fake one.
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>>159022627
>why
Because that would be fun, anon.
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>>159023173
But you could in theory level up and beat him the first time too. The plot isn't giving you options here. Just telling you what the canon interpretation is.
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>>159022602
>>159022747
I think what they meant by only humans being able to kill gods and demons was by using observation and no longer worshiping them, otherwise they'll just come back. Loki kills that one Dormarth, but she's not permanently dead, and only humanity could kill her once and for all. That's the only way I can make sense of it anyway.

I guess they resealed Krishna because Flynn decided getting everyone to stop believing in him is a pain in the ass and they might as well just shove him back into the big floating ball instead.
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>>159023356
If they left it at a description of observation not bringing them back ever, that would have been fine. The problem is, the way it was stated in game made it come off way stupider and trivializing of gods. Besides. The game was pretty clear that gods can't just live through being killed just because people believe in them. If you kill them they are still dead. All the beliefs can do is help to bring them or an analogue of them back faster. It can't keep them alive indefinitely in the middle of a fight.

The truth is there seems to be no logic behind the resealing of krishna. They just did it since the seal was there and they thought it seemed cool.
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>>159023210
I wouldnt even mind if there was some kind of asspull with gungnir 1hkoing everyone in ng, if you live through it.
Still would be neat to see some changers, when they are openly raving about multiple universes.
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>>159009025
>Alien was derived from Geiger
Geiger worked on Alien.
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Why do I want to suddenly violently ravage Beth?

She has a doujin right?
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>>158952016
this election cycle is proof that the law/chaos is rea
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>>159025402
What, both options are shit?
Only 8 more days right? And then we will deal with only months of flooding and bitching.
White were right
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I know that every kind of build works in DDS1, but I still can't decide on whether to go WURLDOFSTR or go full-magic with Serph.
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>>158956220
Technically speaking Shesha took Asahi v-card by ripping her apart. Really makes you think.
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>>159028040
I don't think that's how it works
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>>159028040
>tfw still no vore Sheesha porn
Fuck this gay earth
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>>158973846
Dude took the virginity of any young woman who dared to pass through his forest. I'm sure he has a dick.
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Why do fairies exist?
They are weak, low leveled and can't survive or exist in a World of Order or Strength. One of them proceeds to ruin the story of a game.
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>>159025042
Why is this so fucking good?
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>>159028440
>They are weak, low leveled and can't survive or exist in a World of Order or Strength
Implying.
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>>159025042
Jesus this looks fantastic
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>>159025042
>alice is floating
>Loki is flying
>but Wu Kong isn't on his cloud
REEEEEEEE
I like it though.
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Hoy, wake up!
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Favorite early game demon?bonus:make him usable with a set of skills for endgame
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>>159033264
Pixie excluded, my favorite would be Jacku
Aside from Buffs/Debuffs, having and Ice boost/amp and mediarahan, I can't think of anything to make him more viable. Megidolaon?

Stuff like that goes for all magic based demons
The leveling would be a pain
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>>159033264
>early game
I think you mean all game, and that's Moh Shuvuu.

Demon in terms of pure gameplay varies between games, in SMT4 Apoc it was King Frost which eventually became Black Frost and then Demonee-Ho which lasted me a good while. Alongside the Angel evolution line.

Endgame had me replace all of them for Aliot, Matador, and Inana/Shiva.
Will probably have to HP incense abuse Inana sometime when I go back to Apoc.

Playing DDS2 right now and nearing endgame.
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>>158980597
I just need a script. I'm playing Devil Summoner on Saturn at the moment using a script.

It's workable
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Post Gay ideas
>SMT IVA
>New Game+
>After you pick up the phone you have a vision
>Mysterious voice tells you "You who have [INSERT DESCRIPTION OF LAST ROUTE], who hath been born again with new power can now choose a new path."
>Aldremelech horde appears
>You now have the option to take charge and rush him before he attacks
>Solo Fight you v Aldremelech horde
>if you die story continues as usual
>if you win alternate scenario focusing on traditional law v chaos and Patriot stuff with loads of bonus bosses, Nikarri and Munabu are new companions.
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>>159033264
Archangel is one of my favorite designs. I'd probably go for either a full phys build with the most powerful phys skills or a Light-magic build on him.
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>>159033264
Let me tell you about early game demons.
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>>159035739
thats not gay, thats good :^(
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>>159025042
BoF IV is such a good game.
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>>159025042
>you will never get good at sprite art
>or art period
Life is so unfair.
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>>159025042
was bretty good until i noticed the dumblr shit
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>>159038340
>All things from tumblr are bad
Not this meme again. Do you see shit filters, shitty red noses, or hamfisted political shit?
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>>159038595
>defending that dogshit site
The inordinate majority of it is cancer. If you really give that trash traffic you should consider suicide.
https://zoethecrocpot.tumblr.com/
http://autisticheadcanons.tumblr.com/post/150804980247/the-wizard-in-stardew-valley-is-autistic-isolates?is_related_post=1
http://undertale-lgbt.tumblr.com/
http://askanonbinary.tumblr.com/pronouns
http://anagnori.tumblr.com/post/75752291700/a-non-binary-persons-guide-to-invented-pronouns
Don't be a retarded faggot and use something like a booru or Pixiv like any normal person does
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>>159039356
do you have all those links ready like that?
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>>159039356
>implying I use tumblr
>implying there is anything wrong with that gif

Also don't tell me to not visit a site when you're autistically saving URLs from it like this. Kill yourself.
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>>159039524
why*
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>>159039524
Nope, literally just typed in stupid crap on Google like "autism undertale tumblr" and got met with a flurry so I just linked the top stuff.
>>159039563
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>>159039563
>implying I use tumblr
Well you sure jumped to defend it quickly so of course I'd assume you do.
>implying there is anything wrong with that gif
Read what I said again, obviously there's at least one good thing there but if you support that site you should hang yourself. Also it's your lucky day because you're getting two replies since I forgot to delete my link to your post in my response since I had to go do something real quick.
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>>159040043
>defend it quickly
Nigger, I defended the gif in question, not tumblr. Work on your reading comprehension skills.

I reiterate, kill yourself.
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>>159040128
I was referring to what you said in your previous post.
>Work on your reading comprehension skills.
>when you were clearly missing my point when i said majority
Yeah you should still hang yourself regardless if you go there or not.
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>>159040128
>>159040330
Why are you guys fighting over a watermark and tumblr in general?
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>>159040330
>I was referring to what you said in your previous post.
None of my posts implied that tumblr is a good site, only that good content can exist there.

>>159040330
>when you were clearly missing my point when i said majority
You mean that same post that claimed I defended tumblr?
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>>159040480
>None of my posts implied that tumblr is a good site, only that good content can exist there.
I said (going off of your other post)
>All things from tumblr are bad
And you said
>Not this meme again
>Do you see shit filters, shitty red noses, or hamfisted political shit?
I thought you used the site and were just claiming that it has bad stuff on it but isn't entirely shit. Are you autistic? Can you not interpret things from others' points of view? Am I supposed to read your mind?
>You mean that same post that claimed I defended tumblr?
Is that supposed to change something?
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>>159028262
>wanting to get swallowed by a huge dude snek
My dick does not know what to think.
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>>159040878
>Not this meme again
Yes, because this was something that used to come up often here.

>Am I supposed to read your mind?
You're supposed to not be retarded and assume everything. I don't even know why you brought up the autistic identity politics problem when it's clear I'm aware of it from what you quoted yourself. You don't have to go there to know how shit it can be regarding that stuff; you should know this since you presumably don't browse there either.

>Is that supposed to change something?
Does anything you've posted change the fact that there is literally nothing wrong with the gif, or that you've misinterpreted multiple posts because you're so eager to jump to conclusions? Nothing about that majority shit was relevant to what was being said in the first place.

I'll leave it at this.
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>>159025042
That's a pretty cool gif.

Do you happen to know who made it?
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>>159024542
No
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How was everyone's Halloween yesterday
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>>159041991
Watched Evil Dead movies with friends.
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>>159041571
>Yes, because this was something that used to come up often here.
I don't care about that I was just quoting everything you said
>I don't even know why you brought up the autistic identity politics problem
My entire point was the site is rampant with it, do you thing it got its ass reputation out of the blue? Why would I bring that up out of nowhere?
>Nothing about that majority shit was relevant to what was being said in the first place.
Yes it was, I was saying that it's a landfill but there some barely decent things few and far between except it's not worth wading through all of that while also supporting the site by giving it clicks. The only one that still seems to still be misinterpreting things is you. And
>crying about assumptions when you randomly think i save tumblr urls
Nice one

Have a good day bud
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There is any place I can find more pics of this card game?
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>>159042626
Probably google.
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>>159041989
But I found one and it fits the niches perfectly other than art issues.
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/58515/99222a4337/
Only curse with many is that non Persona/DeSu doujins are untranslated.
I want story with my porn about how law sluts are truly sluts.
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>>159041884
http://erek-art.tumblr.com/
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>>159042626
tumblr.com
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>>159043027
>>159043070
delete your accounts
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>>159042626
Google "Last Chronicle shin megami tensei 4" and it will give you plenty of results.
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>>159043027
Nice, thanks!
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>>159043351
>>159042719
It's always the same promo pics, I'm searching for all collection of the cards because of the illustrations.

>>159043070
I don't use tumblr.
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>>159043136
no
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>>159043928
Is this Asahi's smirk face? I've never seen art of her with her hair frayed anywhere past the tips.
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>>159043928
Why does she look fat
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>>159044313
Too much demon food.
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>>159044313
>this is fat
Anon, have you only been looking at twigs your whole life?
She just looks really cartoony if anything.
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>>159044881
>not appreciating the beauty of Erlkonig
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>>159044881
>that face
If she's not fat she looks like she's 8 and has downs. That art isn't very good desu.
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Do you reduce the difficulty when grinding in smt4/smt4a?
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I'm doing my first smt iv run, actually at Shibuya, and trying to get a neutral ending. Cynical man says "you're hard to get a handle on" So it means I'm neutral atm, right? Now my question, is there a safe way to stay neutral till the alignment lock? I've heard the frame to stay neutral is pretty small.
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>>159045882
Staying completely Neutral is not safe. Past the "no backtracking" point, most of the alignment points awarded will cancel each other out, but the final Law-or-Chaos decision has a point weight that exceeds the Neutral margin. You'll want to be mildly one way or the other before locking yourself out of backtracks, then swing for the opposite.
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>>159045702
Look at her body, there's no fat there nigga.

The art isn't that great.
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>>159046051
Jesus, Burough was such a bitch and annoyed the shit out of me. The fact she became the spirit of Tokyo also confounded me.

When does she say this though?
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>>159045712
No because I'm not a scumming faggot
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>>159046051
In the beginning of SMTIV.

When Walter asks what you think about the Samurai life and you pick i don't know yet.
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>>159046654
Meant for>>159046373
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>>159046373
Burroughs was great imo. Her getting Lightnings VA was absolutely perfect too
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>>159046879
I think I just hate having a "companion" that isn't actually a companion.

Asahi didn't grate on me as much since I got to see her gradually evolve as a person. With Burrough I just got this machine that was constantly forking out missions and nothing else.
Not a companion, but not a competent AI like Arthur.
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>Fighting an enemy horde
>Toki jumps in
>Instant kill activates
>Entire horde dies
>Reinforcements have appeared!
>The enemy attacks first!
>Nope, Toki jumps in
>Instant kill activates
>Entire horde dies
>Reinforcements have appeared!
>Toki jumps in
>Instant kill activates
>Entire horde dies
>+25k EXP for not doing anything

Why use anyone else?
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>>159004259
>liking Nicholas Cage
Opinions fucking discarded

It is fascinating how anti-social Kaneko is, and how introspective he is. Kinda feel bad for him in a way.
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What the fuck
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>>159049397
Nice work, kid.
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What kind of bonus will I miss in smtiva for not "finishing" the neutral route?

I beat neutral but never saved because I wanted to farm fiends.
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Got a Japanese 3DS with IV and Final, is it fine to start playing Final before IV? Played a few hours of IV so far but all the stuff I've been hearing about Final makes me want to pick it up ASAP.
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>>159050280
If that's already a NG+ file you are good. Having a route finished each gives you a title and background for your DDS Card.


>>159050445
No? Why the fuck would it be? Apoc starts near the end of IV, it's an alternate outcome of IV's story and shares pretty much all its characters and obviously the setting. IV is also a much better game overall
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>>159050280
http://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/shin-megami-tensei-iv-final-save-data-bonus-revealed-livestream/
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>>159041157

What does it mean to Moh Shuvuu to be a Success as a human?
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>>159050280
Completed routes only gives you DDS shit in Apoc. Being on a NG+ file unlocks like 5 new demon fusions though, Satan, Lucifer, Merkabah, Chiro, and I think another one I can't think of right now
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>>159050919
The last demon you can fuse is Metatron.
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>>159050919

Actually you also get some healing items, a golden death mask which sells for 10k macca, a 20point app card and heavy grimoire for each route completed. You also get an accessory that gives you 15 MP and +3 to all stats

So it's kind of a neat little boost.
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>>159050839
To don't be a failure as a human.
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>>159050919
OK, it's an ng++ file with chaos and law complete, so I don't think I'll be heartbroken over the backgrounds. But it's good to know about the fusions
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>>159051349
You are talking about importing your IV save to Apocalypse, I was talking about the NG+ bonus in Apocalypse itself. Rereading the guy's post who the fuck knows what he was asking for though, it's ambiguous
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>>159050839
To let her eat your brain?
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>>159051764

But I need that to live.
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Going into boss battles with a full assist guage makes it so easy to wreck them. Assist is so good.
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>>159051764
This sounds like what a demon would say.
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>>159051845
Even gameplay disagrees with Dagda.
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I wish Dagda was my dad.
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>>159053454

Dadga?
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>>159048351
I see that you're not a cool guy. I bet demons wouldn't even want to steal your jacket before the apocalypse occurred.

And Kaneko seems like a thoughtful and honest guy, there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>159054005
You know it.
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I started playing SMT Devil Survivor Overclocked and after I saved the game (after the first battle), whenever I turn it on it takes ages playing the main theme on a black screen before I can press any button, is this normal?
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>>159057079
No.
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How does buffing work in Strange Journey?
Is it broken like in Nocturne and does it stack?
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Does IV get better? I loved the atmosphere and setup for the Tokyo reveal but after that it's been nothing but a boring slice of life anime. It's like the characters just forgot their whole fucking worldview was shattered.
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>>159057992
>boring slice of life anime

What.

IV never felt that way to me, whatchu talkin' about?
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>>159058171
Everything I don't like is anime.
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>>159058171
It's mostly a joke, but I feel like the things that happen once you reach Tokyo feel totally disjointed from everything prior. Suddenly you're just hanging out in a local bar accepting odd jobs.
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>>159057992
I agree with >>159058171

But I can tell you that the game does a really interesting spin later on. It also has a few twists.
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KAW KAW
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>>159059342
DELEET THIS
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>assembly of Nihilo
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>>159004259
kek, so, Kaneko enjoy futanari too? What a weird nice guy just like Hirohiko Araki.
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Anyone got the English script for if...? I want to play it already. When will Gideon got of his lazy ass and finish it?
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Did kaneko design all the buildings and environments in Nocturne too? I fucking love the artstyle of this game
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>>159061295
There is this.
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy
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>>159045712
i dont really like a$ap very much but his LSD song is amazing
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>>159061295
When will someone steal his thunder
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Why every time someone mentions YHVH in Apocalypse the sound is distorted?
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>>159061935
Because its impossible to speak YHVHS name
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will I need a guide to get neutral in smt1?

it was a bitch to get neutral in iv
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>>159061528
Thanks, can you emulate ps1 games yet on android? That's how I played smt 1 2 and kmt 1 and 2
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>>159061935
>>159062247
https://twitter.com/SMTconfession/status/792767906106847232
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>fighting boss in strange journey
>press x by accident
>JUST
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>>159062247
YHVH really didn't think it through. How are you suppose to praise his name, if you can't even pronounce it.
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I see there is a import save from SMTIV in SMTIV:A, can I import a save from a cartridge?
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>>159062939
Yeah, cartridge and digital saves are both valid.

If you're playing IVA from cartridge and importing IV from cart, you'll be prompted to eject and replace.
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>>159062818

Not even YHVH can say his own name.
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Let's add this to the OP
https://youtu.be/mDj9XPX0Das
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Fuck this faggot. He blows my demons to smithereens. Uzume and Unicorne are weak to his fucking lightning. I can't return to cathedral without fight right? I need new demons.
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>>159068209
I'm sick of people asking about it too, but nobody ever reads the OP.
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Does anyone know the difference between these two files?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w1f1qx3z7cf0rc4/Shin%20Megami%20Tensei.smc?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0t5i3rstlv6wzaj/Shin%20Megami%20Tensei%20%28Fix%29.ips
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>>159069024
.smc is the game and .ips is the patch
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Seems really quiet today
Just curious
Does anyone stay and wait in this general for any response
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>>159069859
I almost never close it
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>>159069859
I keep it open all the time, but I don't have much to discuss at the moment.
I just post Hoy if needed.
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How important are the time sensitive events in Desu? I've got the option to meet like 3 people, but the other two leave after I meet the first and the half hour has passed.

I'm only at the beginning, so I've never met with these characters before.
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>>159069859
I do
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>>159070651
Only the ones concerning a character's death. You will know which ones are important or not.
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>>159068231
Is that the Ikebukuro fight or the Tower of Kagutsuchi fight?

Actually, I don't have any real advice for either, sine I ended up having to got to earlier saves just to get some demon to deal with him
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>>159004947
Why even have the whole TUATHA DE thing if you're not even going to put Lugh in the game?

Apocalypse, like IV, is a long chain of missed opportunities.
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>>159074075
The fact that Scathach and Cu Chulainn were just random demon schmucks was sad.


I did like how Tenkai suddenly became relevant again, though.
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>>159074717
>>159074075
ATLUS isn't about to let their most recognizable demons get redesigns

I don't get why they didn't give Odin's spot to Lugh though
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>>159074961
I think part of it was having a representative from a lot of recognizable faiths amongst the Divine Powers.

Hinduism brought Krishna (and Shesha)
Buddhism brought Maitreya
Norse brought Odin
Taoism brought Zhong Kui
Aztecs brought Quetzlcoatl
etc, etc...

Though, they COULD have done better, by replacing Shesha with Apophis, and given Egyptian myth a rep too. They're fairly interchangeable, really.
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/11554675/r
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Just started SMT IV Apocalypse. It feels good to be sucked into a game. I played for about 4 hours, beat Fairy Forest, and 1 boss in the well. I only stopped because I'm too lazy to go downstairs and grab the charger.

The music has lived up to the original so far. I'm not liking how much they dumbed the overworld map down. I like getting lost in RPGs. The game feels difficult but more balanced because you can expect affinities your opponents will have. Smirk is annoying but not as strong (fuck you King Frost). I like the side characters.
>>
>hypocrite edgy demon with mommy issues
>generic waifubait dog-girl
>generic waifubait yandere
>generic fujobait whiny pussy
>annoying comedic relief green ghost
>annoying comedic relief lawfag
>HOW DO YOU, FELLOW KIDS

Defend Apocalypse's main cast.
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>>159078103
Literally nothing wrong with navarre.
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>>159078748
There's ALOT wrong with Navarre.

Not as much as there was in IV, of course, but there's still alot wrong with Navarre.
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>>159080507
Please elaborate.
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>>159078103
They're funnier characters than we've ever had in any of the games before.
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>>159080659
>implying anyone is funnier than Law Hero
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>>158999309
Bump
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>>159080827
Try not to feel too bad.
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>>159078103
Why you so mad all of a sudden? Don't tell me you're that emotionally invested into a videogame?
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>>159081169
yes
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>>159081169
They gain levels and thus gain hp
They also gain prrss turns
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>>159081443
>>159081460
Alright. By how much approximately? I know HP and MP are the most important, but I'd like to know how maxed my stats should be when fighting them beyond TT4
>>
name 1 reason why anyone should care about mankind

protip: you can't.
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>>159083161
Argilla
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>>159078103
Nanashi is the only one i care about because i think he's cute
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>>159083161
You'll get it once you're done with puberty.
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>>159035848
Source please? I can't believe how hard I am at this.
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>>158979306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTakHqVAn4
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>>159085664
The source is
Accepting YHVH's word and love, and giving glory to Him
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Niggas where's the IV:A OST download link
>>
Okay Atlus you've killed mainline, can I have a Devil Survivor 3 now please
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>>159086846
Fucking google it.
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>>159044313
thick
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>>159086846
Step up your google game, senpai.

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=788088
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>>159087264
thanks

>>159087104
fuck you YHVH
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Anything I should change for this chariot?
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>>159078103
Dagda is perfect.
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>>159086495
I can't. I already surrendered my mind to the eldritch magicks.
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>if you come any closer I'll smite you in hell forever!!
>actually nevermind, i'll give you powers of a god if you join me

what the fuck yhvh
>>
Probably a dumb question
Has anyone imported from Japan before
I wanna grab my copy of SMT1 but I don't know if I have to pay anything besides the product and shipping.

Do I have to pay customs tax or something, or is it like /csg/ and just be careful who you buy from
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Is the Bible worth a read?
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I just beat SMTIV hat was the deal with Issachar and Navarre? what were those characters for?
I get Issachar was kinda there to show that the MC had a life before becoming a samurai, but Navare has 0 purpose other than that one mission at the beggining of the game.
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>>159089641
It's kinda cool in Genesis, but then it becomes a boring mess.
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>>159090142
What version did you read?
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>>159075493
>Egyptian
Seth is back from IV. He's mad YHVH fired him for not stopping Isis and Osiris revival cause of Flynn.
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>>159090107
Issachar was there to introduce the alignment dichotomy. Navarre was to show how unfair the class system could get.
>>
Why is KMT 1 so fucking hard? These demons are fucking me in the ass. Wayt harder then SMT 1 or 2. Just beat minator and the areas after that dam. The mobs dont let up
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>>159074717
Setanta hangs out as an NPC in Fairy Forest.

As does Demonee-ho on Massacre.

>>159074961
Odin has a shit design cause they never use SH Odin.So Doi made Marvels Ultrama Odin.
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>>159090432
>Odin has a shit design
SH Odin aside, Doi's Odin is a lot more interesting than Kaneko's naked purple man.
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>>159090324
You probably have low level demons.

That game is easy as fuck. The only problem you'll run into is running out of mag
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>>159090595
Tha'ts what I mean. SH Odin > Doi Odin > Naked Puprle Man Odin.

I'm more insulted by how people complain about Doi's superior design instead of purple shit.
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>>159090763
>This track
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEGN2R5QyvU

Why the fuck is no one translating any of the Majin tensai games? Fuck
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>>159053454
>Dagda will never be your dad
>you will never have edge battles with Dagda
>you will never attempt to be even more antisocial than him when you reach that phase of puberty
>you will never see the pride in his eyes as you ditch your friends and make profane graffiti dissing God
>you will never be gently chastised by your GMILF Danu
>>
>Brigid will never have a place in the story because Atlus is too stupid to find a way to implement her
>she'll never be the boss of the 3rd Brane and have a very heated conversation with Dagda, calling him brainwashed in Bonds, and an extremist in Massacre
A shame really
>>
Anyone have the picture where Raidou and Hacker compliment each others bras?
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>>159090923
Google translate their stories on those two fansites on the wiki.
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I thought Mot was just a Meme in Nocturne. What an annoying shit.
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>>159091102
>As she dies she breaks down crying over Daddy and it just makes him even edgier in response.
>Especially New Dagda.
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>>159091179
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>>159090205
I can't remember. It was a borrowed copy I read when I had a bunch of free hours to kill.
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>>159091476
Thank you.
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>>159091102
But if we were actually given the backstory and motivation of gods in game it would distract from the colorful cast of interesting human characters, such as Nozomi.
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>>159091549
>Hallelujah's backstory where human Ashura-kai ficked over his life and killed his mom is in the artbook only
>Also more fujobait with Nanashi as his Angel like Sam was to Hal's mom.
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>>159092062
Seriously what is it with people and pregnant Hallelujah, this fucking guy's known us for like 30 minutes more than Toki yet he gets more pregnant porn than the girl who gets possessed by the FUCK ME demon
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>In the stupid Nihilo Obelisk
>Random encounters literally every 4 fucking seconds
Is the random encounter rate upped here or am I just getting frustrated?
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>>159092938
Fujos are strange.
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>>159093016
Women are strange.
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>>159092938
DEVIL CHILDREN.

Cute demon form.

etc.
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>>159093365
>Cute demon form.
Fuck off, Black, and draw some more not-homoerotic art
>>
>>159092938
It's a side effect of Toki being shit and SMT being more popular with fujos.
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>>159093636
>Toki being shit
delet
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>>159093407
>Black
>Not drawing homoerotic art
Also not Black.

Heck some Nips even take it to the next level and make his form even freakier.
>>
>>159093675
No point in deleting the truth. Hallelujah is one of the few tolerable party members in IVA. The standard for this cast pretty much defaults to shit.
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fujos get out
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>>159093805
He's so boring though. Just a 5th wheel until he unlocks his TRUE FORM
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>>159094143
Yes anon, a boring character was one of the most tolerable of that game. Let that sink in.
>>
>>159094143
And still better than dog, fairy queen, loli, Tokyo-chan, and monkey.

Navarre are not waifus.
>>
>>159094385
>>159094567
doesn't explain all the gay porn desu senpai
>>
>>159094567
>and Gaston
Also better than literally a tool Flynn and tyrannical Fairy Queen
>>
>>159094609
Then you don't understand SMT.
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>>159094816
shut up fagasaurus sex
>>
I bought this
https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Bible-King-James-Version/dp/0310941784/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478054890&sr=8-1&keywords=holy+bible

what should I expect? should I skip anything?
>>
>>159095043
When it gets to x begat y begat z skip all that genologies rarely are intresting.

Deuteronomy is boring since its just rules and rules and rules.

Proverbs and pslams are good reads.

As for NEW testament its all good
>>
>>159095043
KJV is old and busted
>>
>>159095043
>not just reading it online or from a PDF on your phone
>>
>>159095043
>>159095441
>>159095440
What version should I read?
>>
>https://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif
>80%

What is taking so long then?

>https://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=majinten
>40%

How long does it take Aeon genisis to finish a translation?
>>
>>159095023
>>159095023
Most Nocturne art by nips is yaoi and it's with Raidou or Dante. Sometimes both.

And IVA even has dudes giving birth in a future ending just like some ancient mythologies.
>>
>>159095440
>x begat y begat
What are the point of these? They go on forever and never tell you anything important.

>>159095441
Then why is it in the recommended reading.
>>
>>159096043
>Then why is it in the recommended reading.
Because everyone still reads it. It's fine if you want to read the historically most popular bible and put up with ye olde English. It's just not the best translation anymore.
>>
>>159094385
>>159094567
Glad to see we're already at the "latest game is SHIT" part of the relationship
>>
>>159096518
Why would anyone read the old bible if it's hard to read? Is there something wrong with the newer ones?
>>
>>159095043
>>159095440
>>159096518
Different anon, but are you supposed to just read the bible like a normal book, like cover to cover, or is there some sort of order the books should be read in?
>>
>>159097397
We've been at this stage since people saw the Bonds path in February.

You can dislike something about a game without thinking it's total shit, by the way.
>>
why the fuck are there so many god damn different version of the bible holy fucking shit
>>
>>159098264
lol idk
Probably for better translations and compilations of all or some of it
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>>159097413
Tradition. It depends on who you ask, though. Different versions of the Bible have different sources and translation philosophies. It's a messy business without an easy correct choice.
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So how many of you faggots intermingle between 4chan and other websites to talk about SMT
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>>159098838
This is my only home
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>>159098838

This is literally the only I place I talk about SMT games at.
>>
>>159098838
This is the only place I come to talk about SMT. I don't know of any others and I don't seek them out.
>>
>>159098838
There is no other place besides reddit.

>tfw smt will never be as big as pokemon
>tfw we'll never get our own board
>tfw we'll never get a smt go app


>>159098792
Well I canceled my order. I don't want to spend 80+ hours on a book when there could be a better version of it out there.
>>
>>159090324
the game is REALLY easy, actually

just fuse those demons man

also grind on kaiju bug for a bit until he doesn't give you a lot of EXP
>>
>>159099629
KJV isn't bad, per se, you just ought to look into it before buying. Figure out what kind of translation you're looking for.
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>>159099629
You should get Shin Jesus Tensei: Maniax Edition
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"fascinating bugaboo ass"
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>>159049397
>not saying yes.
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>>159074075
Especially by not having a real law and chaos route. Why even bother mentioning that lucifer was being manipulated by yhvh all along if it never comes up? Think of how interesting a twist it would have been to have law and chaos routes that have to do with the fact that yhvh was playing everyone all along, and so they are trying to break free from him for real.
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>>159091102
If they wanted to improve iva, it would have been by taking the retarded irish shit out, not adding more of it.
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>>159095043
>king james version\

That's well known to be one of the most poorly translated of all versions. It was made for evangalicals to be twisted to their interests.

https://www.amazon.com/The-Oxford-Annotated-Bible-Apocrypha/dp/0195289609

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=NRSV+with+Apocrypha.

Get one of these, with academic annotations.
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Smt game where you play as a "messaih" in Isreal under roman occupation when?

>Pharsis Light- law
>Romans Chaos
>Mankind(?)/neither Neutral
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>>159103647
>Pharsis
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pharsis+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=fs&trackid=sp-006

What?
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>>159103647
did not mean to write Light-law just law
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Since many demons are considered different aspects or incarnations of same beings, have wildly different depictions, or have overlap such as Samael being possibly conflated being to Azrael or Luficer, what makes a demon consider itself separate from other ones? Or are they all aspects of a greater organism, adapting the traits of components?
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>>159103647
>>159103724
meant the pharisees

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees
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>>159102837
And those interests being?
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Magic can't crit in any SMT game can it?
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>>159104017
Demons in game split and merge all the time. If they exist in separate bodies they obviously consider themselves somewhat separate. Demons simply know that identity is not stable, but shifts in a more direct way than humans do. Humans know they come from families, and whatnot. Demons simply consider that to be similar to the idea of family most likely. Unless for whatever reason the two parts still identify closer to being the same. Odin mentions him and dagda splitting from one god, but that's it. They obviously see themselves as separate enough now. Demons presumably have a little better understanding that absolute identity is dubious anyways, since everything is just part of the great will.

>>159104163
Complying with thier own theology. There's one part in the king james where something says there are three that record in heaven, the water, the blood, and the spirit. But king james translates it as father son and holy ghost, despite that clearly not being what it means. Obviously some examples are worse than others, but only get king james if you care about prose more than accuracy and like its prose. Obviously itll be similar enough that for the msot part you won't notice the issues. Most will. But no one seriously trying to lean uses it
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>>159104194
In Final via smirk.
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>>159104194
Apocalypse.
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>>159104357
Make sense. In my christian high school despite using KJV they mentioned it has a few translation errors as well. But compared to other translations of the bible I trust it a bit more but am not to knowledgeable on the many translations out there.
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>>159104357
Odin split off from Dagda, just like Danu did with Inanna.
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>>159078103
fuck you my dog waifu is perfect
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>>159078103
Dagda is my DagDAD
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>>159098838
Tumblr, Reddit, GameFAQs, etc.

xD
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>>159095043
>not the jerusalem bible
step your game brah
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Who wins?
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>>159109510
nigga do you know where you are at right now
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>>159109681
Jack Frost used Curse!
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>>159109510
Hee Haw
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why'd you let him die
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>>159109510
demoneeho
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>>159110038
edgy
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Who wins?
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>>159110297
whats edgy about it
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I miss IMAGINE so much.
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So whats the best order to fight the fiends on SMT 4? i already defeated matador and red rider
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>>159110881
you fight matador, red rider, and then the rest of them
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>>159110439
Both.
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>>159110914
Well whats the meta? i just came back and those were already down and in the cathedral, i dont have any DLC
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I went back to the first IV after beating IV:A. Is end game exp supposed to be so dry?
If I ever wanted to farm a skill out of a demon, one battle in the 4th Brane would do it. I'm trying to get Kanuki throw from Uriel but the infernal tokyo mobs just don't move his exp bar.
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>>159110881
>ever bother with ONE OVER TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX

I'd hit the jackpot sooner than finding all of them
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>>159111256
I guess you should buy the DLC then :>)
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>tfw no more SMT porn
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>>159115094
It was shit anyway.
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>>159115145
>no more SMT porn >>Anonymous 11/02/16(Wed)04:23:57 No.159115110 Anonymous 11/02/16(Wed)02:23:57 No.159115110 ▶File: 1454468754903.jpg (10 KB
YOUR MOM WAS SHIT
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>>159115260
Calm down.
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>>159115260
>>>Anonymous 11/02/16(Wed)04:23:57 No.159115110 Anonymous 11/02/16(Wed)02:23:57 No.159115110 ▶File: 1454468754903.jpg (10 KB
what did he mean by this
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I just got killed instantly in an ambush with evil gaze + normal attack after 2 hours of exploring and grinding...

Someone please hold me I don't think I'm going to be okay...
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>>159116493
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>>159117148
one more god accepted
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Is Soul Hackers good?
I am about to complete DDS 1/2, and I haven't selected my next game.

It looks really cool, so much blue and purple.
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>>159117646
No, Soul Hackers is the worst game in the franchise, nay, the world
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>>159117646
Why not DDS 2? The music is mint.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPsU-ZMC6SA
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>>159117719
I am playing both at the same time because I am retarded.
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>>159117760
>playing both at the same time
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>>159117760
I actually played the 2 first, and it wasn't years later till I played 1. I cant even remember why I did this.
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>>159117854
sorry.
I know I have made a terrible mistake.
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>>159117945
Fuck Mothman.
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>>159118057
What does Mastema taste like?
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>Issachar looks like he fits the samurai bill well
>doesn't get picked
I'm still mad. Shop him over Flynn or Walter's heads and you see what I mean.
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>>159090893
>>159090595
>>159090432
They sure as fuck aren't about to change Cu Chulainn, or Scathach's designs. I don't dislike that Odin of all demons got a redesign, since his was never all that great, but I would have liked for it to be Lugh instead.
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>>159078103
No.
Navarre was okay, but his treatment was not.
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>>159123697
Yeah. The game expected us to think it was funny that everyone was mean to him. But it came off more like they were actually mean and there wasn't much humor in it. If it was presented more ironically it would have been better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDMmFgvotXk
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I'm in the middle of SMTIV:A, onyl other SMT I played was IV. Can someone give me a dumbed down explanation of elemental fusion? I fuse 2 demons of the same race, I get an elemental that ranks up certain races and down others. What is the purpose of ranking up or down?
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>>159124373
to get the next one on the line easier, if you suck at remembering what fuses with what into what
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>>159124373
ooga = booga
just keep them in the back of your mind as you plan things, they make getting shit easier
I also think they're mandatory for certain end level fusions (Herald specifically) but I could be wrong
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>>159124373
The way I use them is say I catch a new demon that is perfect. They resist the next boss, they are max level I can have, they have great stats, but they have shit abilities.

I make an elemental from demons with good abilities (that I usually grab from compendium), I fuse that elemental with the demon lower in the chain. I get a copy of that shiny new perfect demon with abilities that are useful.
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>confront an angry mob of hunters
>they want me dead for releasing Krishna
>Fujiwara and Skins say they will give me another chance provided I swear an oath to never betray them
>tell Skins to kiss my ass
>"You've got spunk, kid. Now as long as you don't betray us..."
What even? I've been intentionally doing everything wrong. this is pretty stupid, in the bad sort of funny way.
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>>159128418
The choices don't matter at all. You can only choose to go along with the narrative willingly thus making it seem like what you choose matters or fight against it and be constantly reminded that the game doesn't care what you think.
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>>159128814
Also, like, there's a lot of different sides in the game, but it won't really let you side with any of them. They let you get a bad law and chaos since "lel. its a ruse." but have to deliberately not let you side with the divine powers, since nothing about them at all would be an inherent bad ending.
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>>159128962
To be fair, one of the themes of the game is suppose to be "deicide". Siding with a faction that wants to make humans completely dependent on the gods goes completely against that.
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>>159128962
It's pretty dumb because they really could have gone the Nocturne route and made the routes virtually the same in terms of structure, while still giving the player more options in terms of what the final outcome would be.

>Side with the Divine Powers in the egg, obviously you have to go fuck up YHVH
>Side with Law or Chaos and the Divine Powers will still return and you have to deal with the Egg
>Lucifer obviously would want to go fuck up YHVH if he had the opportunity and a godslayer

The only stretch would be getting Law to YHVH, but
>The Divine Powers reveal to Merkabah and Nanashi that YHVH is playing both sides, placing doubt into Merkabah's mind (or at least Jonathan's)
>Merkabah has been feeling a sense longing since the death of Lucifer
>Drawn to YHVH's realm to merge with Lucifer and becomes Satan
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>>159129906
>the Nocturne route
Almost every SMT does that. Exceptions being when different endings actually get different dungeons, like II and IV.
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>>159119718
licorice and lies
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> Have 9 lucky tickets in Nocturne.
> Decide to save before getting my last one because I'm still buying things anyway.
> It happens to be full kagatsuchi so I figure why not save/load for my free stat.
> Have got Balms of Rising from the white box 7 times in a row.

What the fug.
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I'm very new at this series and I'm trying to absorb so many information at once and honestly I'm stuck at this one thing, Avatars

Can someone explain to me what these Hindu Avatars are? there are so many of them like the Avatar of Krishna or this guy and that guy my god so many Avatars
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>>159129906
It would have been great if the Law and Chaos options actually let you fight YHVH too instead of being basically bad endings that play the credits anyway. You could get Walter or Jonathon as your partner in them, and maybe bring them to NG+ too as a reward for clearing the route.

I guess Shesha Flynn could talk Merkabah out of destroying Tokyo by telling him the truth about YHVH in a desperate attempt to keep the Divine Power's plan on-track. In the actual game, he just fucks off and goes to Mikado, but I don't think the Divine Powers have enough souls to make their new universe with everyone in Tokyo dead. I don't see any reason why Krishna can't still make the Cosmic Egg and fuse with Flynn to try to kill Lucifer and Nanashi in the Chaos ending as it is though. The fake Flynn just needs to rally everyone against Lucifer so he can mass absorb their souls or whatever it is he does.
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What stats should I be putting into my doomguy?
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>>159133179
Doesn't matter, peace maker does damage anyway.
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Say does Astaroth appear in IVA? Who designed the IV one?
>>159123776
It's like Teddie but he didn't deserve it.
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>>159133179
Are you asking which stat growth you should pick during the personality quiz?

Cause I've got some bad news for you.
You can't choose which points go into what stat.
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>>159133721
>It's like Teddie but he didn't deserve it.
It's like they were going for Persona 4 Teddie but ended up with Persona Q Teddie (in terms of how he is treated).
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>>159133721
I didn't even know Astaroth was in IV until now.
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>Here’s an old and embarrassing story, but I think Jeanne D’Arc’s design is a good example. Her category: Hero. By putting her in a good costume, she gains that identity and becomes that person. It’s a motif found since long ago among the image of French revolutionary heroes, so it was easy.

That explains everything, down to the anarchistic flag. Is as much Liberty.
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>>159135309
>anarchistic flag
Huh?
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>>159135587
He means anachronistic. The tricolor wasn't around in Joan's time.
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This is a Japanese Aegis
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>>159115260 ThisToBeHonest.
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>>159117646
Yeah, it's pretty good.
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>>159119858
t. Issachar
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>>159132461
They're avatars of God (Vishnu).

Him changing bodies across the ages make up for pretty cool stories.
Wikipedia and its sources are your friends.
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>>159115094
Thank god.
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>>159129906
>Imply Lawdrones would give a shit.
Lucifer would at least try to work together with them if the Powers weren't a bunch of haughty pricks who think since they know more this means that they can be haughty assholes. All they have to do is tell Lucy he's still a robot following his programming.

Then Lucy and his new boyfriend can go raze YHVH Universe and help make a new one.
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Awaken faggots
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>>159140324
That we had it, yes.
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>>159140926
That it's gone. It was poor quality and stirred up shitposts. Good riddance.
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>>159141059
spotted the lawfag
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>>159141059
h o y ~
go away merukaba
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>>159141059
MUH FILTH
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>>159140413
>Lucifer
>Ever being relieved of his duties
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So i was viewing some videos and some peeps use 1 demon repelling the element that makes him angry so what gives? 1 is fine but everyone is not allowed? i just used phys res on everyone and matador spammed anitchton but red rider did not spam when i resisted fire on everyone
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Why the fuck was IV: A developed?The story/alignment system is fucking dumb and it only ruined IV. Even the soundtrack is worse.
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why did they give the smt4 protag such a pussy ass name like flynn? wouldve made sense to give him a nip name like nanashi
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>>159146398
He's from Yurope
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>>159146258
SMTIV sold a lot. Same reason why games such as Persona 4 got a lot of spin-off material.
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>>159146258
Didn't want to make a maniax
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>>159146398
>wouldve made sense to give him a nip name like nanashi

Flynn is not from tokyo, is from Mikado, wich has a mostly western culture.

Living in Mikado must be weird, a place that is ethnically Japanese but culturally European.
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>>159146258
I liked IVA, mostly for the Flynn worship. It was a good way to send off the 3DS for Atlus. Now I expect full on PS4.
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I am just starting, let me get this straight.

For what I have heard, there is only one choice that matters and decides the ending, regardless on how much of a moralfag or edgelord you were in the game?
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>>159148176
It would be surprising if Atlus made any more 3DS games after this.
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>>159148537
Yes, but you get punished pretty badly for it. You either lose all the demons in your stock or every single item in your inventory.
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>>159148796
wut, explain.
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>>159148796
If you pick edgy options the whole game and then go for the power of friendship ending, you lose your demons and vice versa for your items.
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>>159149085
What if I do a mixture?
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Are you supposed to get demons in Valhalla in 2 at beginning? I went to outskirts where small brown buildings were, the enemy bar went yellow and I had fights with enemies.
I recruited a High Pixie. Also Hanada won't let me use his Gym's VR, is that supposed to happen before Red Bear fight?
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I FUCKING WANT THIS THING BUT ITS 120€
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>Fundraising on an stunned Gaian

Wurld of STR, fucker.

>>159149407
You won't get punished either way.
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>>159149419
Hanada is the gay dude, right? From what I remember, you only need to use his VR system once. And pick the cheapest option.
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>>159147229
I get that. But IV: A feels so half-assed in a way. A Maniax edition would've been better. Just add the gameplay improvements, all the story DLC, and maybe a new route.

And didn't IV: A sold like shit?
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>>159150445
Technically it sold more than other mainline entries
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What would happen if a demon was sent through the Aether?
Would it be wise to send a summoned demon to seal the jars? Since Nanashi was only guy who could, and even with humans it's risky.
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How do you beat Krishna, or what level should I be at? This tooting faggot has been wrecking my anus the last two attempts. Does he even have a weakness?
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>>159151726
He's weak to dark
Use niggas with null mind
Use Hallelujah if you're a bitch
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>>159141203
>>159141375
>>159142075
>chaosfags being dense

GOOD lewds are welcome. Keep your shitty drawings to yourself until you can draw something that can actually be fapped to.
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What do I use for my perfect Alice in Apocalypse?
>Die for Me
>Judgement
>Megidolaeon
>Concentrate
>Null Phys
>Null Light
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>>159152004
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>>159152004
>"art is only good if you can fap to it"
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>>159152004
Lawfags remove the most basic of education, so no one can draw good lewds because they don't understand pornography.
And if good lewds exist, they are associated with degenerate behaviour and waifufaggatory by law.
Catch 22.
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>>159152039
Dark Pleroma and High dark pleroma.
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>>159152432
THE PLEROMAS STACK?!

FUCK, I'VE BEEN GETTING RID OF THE NORMAL PLEROMAS IN EXCHANGE FOR THE HIGHS.
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>>159152392
That sounds like what the Law would do.
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>>159152693
stubid
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I just want Kaneko doing art for a new Strange Journey tier game. Is that asking too much?
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>>159154667
He retired to death.
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>>159152363
No I think they were saying they could only fap to good art.
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>>159078103
I wish I could just kill them all and marry the best girl aka the Queen of Fairies Nozomi.

Her motherly figure and big tits, plus missions from the first game was pretty good.
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>>159152004
So because a drawing has porn depicted in it then it's automatically given the only purpose of being nothing more then masturbation material?

Are you serious?
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>>159152363
That's what I told them earlier, right?!
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What if Shin Megami Tensei V is a Nintendo Switch exclusive?
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>>159156614
I'd kill myself. Or replay Persona 5 until the Switch emulator is done.
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>>159156614

I'd buy a Switch
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So I'm playing SMTIV and there's a challenge quest called "A Century of Defense." I either can't find Roppongi Midtown or there's a bug preventing me from getting there.

Where exactly is it?
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>>159152693
It's the same as Boosts and Amps in Persona
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>>159156614
Recently bought a WiiU, so I would be a little pissed but probably couldn't wait.
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>>159156838

it's just east of Shibuya, not far where you met Tayama.

You need to go up a vent near the elevator to reach the demon.
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>>159157172
There's a place it won't let me in until I progress the story quest I think. I have to abandon the quest to enter the location, but when I enter, there's a demon meditating inside and Im pretty sure that's the one I've gotta kill.
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>>159155943
Bad drawing is a bad drawing. If bad drawing not only bad but not even fappable - its not worth shit. 90% of megaten fanart is garbage in general, 100% drawfags from /smtg/ are egostroking clumsy wannabes, who can't into proportions, coloring and aesthetic vision, they don't want to learn and make something proper, so they're pretty much not worthy of any kind of attention. They're making low-quality shit just to appease their deficit of attention with praise from standartless plebs of this general, its really a common appearance for every niche series. That's just a sad fact. Maybe some day messiah will come and give us some actual high-quality content, but it won't happen any time soon probably, since only Persona matters to active and good artists now.
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>>159157465
yeah you go to Midtown as part of the story and fight him.
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>>159157271
shouldve given one of them lucifers outift
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shi-BOOYAH terminal
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>Flynn becomes Vishnu and you have to fight him
Any way to avoid this? I like the guy
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>>159159041
He'll be OK. Don't worry about it.

Unless you're doing Massacre. Then he dies.
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>>159159167
>Unless you're doing Massacre
I've only played two SMT games, but since I'm being a total asshole in all dialogue choices, I guess I'll end up on massacre and not peace?
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>>159157271
Raidou 3 soon
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>>159159041
He will survive if you fight him one on one with Gaston.
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>>159159350
Makes sense, because there's no reason you're going to win that fight
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>>159159268
You can reverse your ending by choice despite of alignment. Alignment in Final is all about losing advantage if you won't be faithful to your agenda in the end. Dagda will delete your demons if you suddenly betray him.
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>>159157517
>believing in messiahs
>implying he won't just end up killing the board or creating his own circle jerk with blackjack and hookers
Law, not even once.
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>>159160274
If Law is a circlejerk what is Chaos?
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>>159149437
What a rip off.
Why don't you search for someone to commission it?
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>>159161226
WORL OF STR
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>>159161226
Shitposting and derailing. Check 'em btw.
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>>159161226
Egotism and constantly butting heads over petty stuff.
More or less a shit scenario also
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>>159152039
Dark Pleromas

If you can, fuse Mephisto through DDS or Demon Fusion Lite for Dark Pierce and you won't need ANY of those Almighty attacks

Drain Light is from Demiurge, which is only a bit more annoying to get than Null Light, ranking up Viles in the Cosmic Egg isn't too hard, though Reapers might be easier. Repel Light is bullshit to get without skill mutation luck, as you need the highest ranked famed to get it.

Healing Knowhow can replace a bunch of support stuff including Dekunda and Energy Drain(for HP recovery purposes).
Fill the rest with whatever immunities you can get your hands on.

Aside from MAYBE Energy Drain, Antichthon is the only real Almighty skill worth grabbing, and only if you have smile charge or Attack Knowhow available to induce smirks with, which isn't the worst idea since Die for Me! has the insta-kill effect when smirking. Though smirks from hitting weaknesses aren't guaranteed, at least you have full elemental coverage and stones are affected by Concentrate if you want more damage from them. Everything up to and including the Light immunity takes priority over this stuff though.
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>>159161226
Hanging with hot demon babes while they all moan at your feet because you live in a wurld of srengths
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I'll never stop being fucking mad whenever I hear "wow that's never been in a Persona game before" from 3/4 fans in reference to fucking features of the first two

Why can't I find a Persona 5 review where the guy doesn't go "and strangely they changed the random dungeons which were a staple of the series" as if HALF THE FUCKING SERIES DIDN'T HAVE CONSTRUCTED DUNGEONS
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>>159161721
Sounds great, where do I sign up?
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>>159162451
If you beat someone enough they'll be confused when they're not beaten
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>>159161226
A brotherhood.
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>>159162451
It's almost like most Personafags haven't played 1, 2 or any other Megaten game that aren't P3/4.
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>>159162451
Nobody played P1 or P2 because these games are garbage nerd.
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>>159162487
Right here boy
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>>159162530
>>159162605
>>159162689
I get that they don't care about the first two. I didn't like P2 much from what I played and P1 is ancient. But it's as if they aren't even aware the games exist. Like Atlus just decided to call the game 3 for stylistic reasons.
I don't want to believe that these people spend 80 hours playing a game, love every second, and then never even bother learning anything about the previous games. They can't be that retarded.
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>>159162689
>P1
>Garbage
The tell-tale sign of a megaten plebian.
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>>159162689
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>>159162689
I've never played a persona game before, are they really that bad?
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>>159162829
>I didn't like P2 much from what I played and P1 is ancient
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>>159163096
P2's battle system is straight up FFXIII with less interaction, you can't prove me wrong.
I loved the characters and the story but goddamn the gameplay was a chore.
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>>159162605
Even Devil Survivor?
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>>159162829
I love SMT since Nocturne, spin-offs included, but I probably won't play first two mainlines as well. I mean, I know some trivia like Aleph being Jesus Christ or something and pascal being a dog, but I don't know shit about dungeons in these games or how bad combat mechanics in these actually is. I just know that storytelling in early 90s was dogshit for the most just as gameplay, so there is nothing worthy to lose if I just skip this shit anyway. Simple as that.
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>>159163067
Just watch first two on YouTube or something. 3rd and 4th are kinda boring, but atleast playable. P5 will be boring as well.
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>>159163354
Devil Survivor isn't that similar to Persona, really. Events are not nearly as engaging as SLs, you can't date the girls, everyone is mean to you and it has that stupid old school demons vs angels shit no one cares about anymore.
>>159163312
>>159163465
You're even worse than Personafags. Fuck off.
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>>159163465
>like Aleph being Jesus Christ
wait WHAT?
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>>159163067
The gameplay is good, 3 and 4 are basically press turn lite
If you don't like anime stuff you won't like the story bits
Even so, P4's story is incredibly trite
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>>159163465
This. I want SMTII-loving hipsters to leave desu.
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>>159163067
Persona 1 and 2 are worth playing, do not listen to the casuals in this general who are trying to sway you, they are filth and must be purged.
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>>159163067
1 is fucking great
2 is autobattle city but has a good story, Eternal punishment is less of a cakewalk but has a shitty localization
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>>159163930
Over my dead mom, bitch
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>All this talk about persona

Anyone got that pic of what persona 1,2,3,4 fans think of 1,2,3,4,?
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>>159163465
>I just know that storytelling in early 90s was dogshit for the most just as gameplay, so there is nothing worthy to lose if I just skip this shit anyway.
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>surrendering to yhvh when he asks you to in the bonds version of his fight

Sheesh, I wasn't expecting much to happen. Dagda yells at you for being an idiot and has to give you a pep talk about why life is worth living after all.
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>>159165518
>Fake Dagda saying all this shit
I'd rather submit to YVHV
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>>159165518
what does he say?
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Does anything special happen if you die during Dagda's fight?
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>>159165486
>le P2 story is good meme
Yeah, whatever, what next?
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>>159165916
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>>159165795
Game Over.
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>>159165795
You die IRL
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>>159166121
No special dialogue or anything?
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>>159166283
i dunno, i never went bonds.
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>>159165486
P2 isn't even 90s why do you post Tatsuya?
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>>159166649
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>>159165776
I'll just type up the whole scene for you guys.

>YHVH: I offer you one last chance: Sever ties and become my servant, or burn in the depths of hell. The choice is yours.
>Will you become YHVH's servant or remain against him?
>[X] Become his servant
>Navarre: What are you thinking!? (Or whoever your current partner is)
>Navarre is shocked by your decision.
>Dagda: Tch... Can't believe you'd mess things up at this stage. You're hopeless, kid.
>YHVH: Yes, my son. Repent for your sins. Now you may live on as my servant. Close your eyes. Rest. When you next wake, this shall all be over.
>"You lose control of your body, and your vision starts to dim." (Screen goes black and Nanashi dies)
>YHVH: As for the rest of you, my cursed children, my lightning shall send you screaming to hell.
>Partner gets killed by lightning
>Dagda: Damn! Can't believe you did this... Quick--give me your hand, kid! There's still time to fix this. Give me your hand!
>Will you heed Dagda's words?
>[X] Give him your hand
>With a struggle, you manage to start breathing again. (Nanashi is revived with 1 HP and you can see again)
>But YHVH freezes you and your friends in place with a glare. You and your demons fall Mute. All of your stats decrease!
>YHVH: You cling to life, trampling on the meaningful death I have offered you? I cannot fathom a greater blasphemy...
>Dagda: No such thing as a "meaningful" death. Death is just death. Don't give up your life so easily. Stick with your ideals, kid. Even a pitiful life is better than death.
>Dagda's encouragement echoes in your mind. You clench your fists tightly.

Then it's your turn again, everyone with 1 HP and mute, and your partner still dead. A lot more than I expected when I decided to see what happens if you surrender.
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>>159163067
P1 is a bit dated but pretty decent all around.

P2 has good story and characters but can and should be played mostly on autobattle.

P3 and P4 have good gameplay, it's like a modified press turn, but your enjoyment of the game will be up to how much you like the calendar, social links, daily life aspect. As well as a tolerance for anime shit, especially with P4.
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Does anyone else hear people say Yahweh behind the distortion in IVA?
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What does /smtg/ think of the story in Apocalypse/Final?

I haven't played it yet, since I dunno, it doesn't look too interesting.
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just got done with sj

that last area was a chore and I felt no joy in getting through the bosses and finishing the game, just wanted to get done with it because of how the only thing you're being challenged on is your endurance
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>>159169775
Yeah, I hear too. In the japanese version it is even easier to hear.
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>>159170553
I hated the last area too but loved building up my party for Mem Aleph. Something about demon sources and mitamas just clicks with me.
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>/smtg/ turned out to be more casual than /feg/ and /pg/

What a time to be alive, now I can be certain that the people who spout their shit opinions in this general are actually total plebs.
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>>159172251
I'm no pleb
I'm at Bitch ass messiah tier
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>>159172251
i am pleb.

I've completed a few, but for some reason, whenever I get near the end of the games, i just stop and get distracted.
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>>159170518
It's the worst in mainline.

>>159163465
Bait or not kill yourself.
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>>159170518
The story is meh, it has its moments but falls apart as soon as the time comes to pick a side. I can excuse it since the gameplay is a step up from IV, but between the seemingly inconsistent moments and missed potential there's a lot of room for improvement when it comes to the writing.
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>>159163465
I hope you're baiting, if not wew lad
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I actually do not consider a huge majority of the Megaten I've played to be anywhere near good games.
I like them still.
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>>159172445
>Bitch ass messiah
So, is that suppose to be a compliment or an insult?
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>>159173273
>I actually do not consider a huge majority of the Megaten I've played to be anywhere near good games.
Why not?
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I can't do it /smtg/ YHVH just keeps pushing my shit in during his second form. Someone kill me.
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>>159174785
I won at the first time, post team?
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why does the idea of nanashi and crew losing to yhvh and being tortured forever in hell turn me on so much
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>>159175615
Because you're YHVH
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>>159156614
i will wait until the end of the console life cycle and buy it used
fuck nintendo
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>>159175225
Don't have my 3DS on me since I just got to work but:

Nanashi:
Grand tack, berserker god, mist rush, charge, critical eye(or whatever it's called) doping, eat whole, tetrakarn

Demiurge
Anticthon, concentrate, agidyne, luster candy,

Inana
(Severe element attacks), concentrate. Debilitate, samerecarm

Samael
Grand logos?, Invitation, samerecarm, mediarahn, doping

I think I gotta remove Inana since I only use her to pass, or debilitate. Demiurge is useful for his resistances, but he runs out of MP quickly. I know im missing 1 or 2 skills but if I brought it to work I wouldnt get jack done.

Rereading this I realize I sound like a complete plebian but this is honestly thr only fight besides Vishnu Flynn I've had to retry.
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>>159163067
P1 is good, feels quite close to mainline.
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>>159175813
Get dekunda/kaja
Doping is good, stick with that.
Have a null phys demon, it kills his press turns.
Get magaon
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>>159175995
Which demon could I get that has/learns the null buff/null smirk? I havent fused a demon since before Vishnuflynn
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>>159175813
what about pleromas and special abilities? get enduring soul and coercion
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>>159176181
angel (the blue one) learns magaon, i dont know wich other demon do it
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Considering making a Demoneeho for shits and giggles.
>Blank Bullet
>Riot Gun/Myriad Arrows
>Gun Pleroma
>High Gun Pleroma
>Gun Pierce
>Charge
>Bloody Glee
>
What should the last skill be?

>>159176181
Angel, Alciel, and Spriggan (not sure on this one) get Magaon
Just use dekaja/kunda stones, you probably have a lot of them
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>>159176541
I'd go for Luster Candy/Debilitate myself.
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>>159176541
probably Enduring Soul or god forbid Desperate Hit. Charge works on DH too.
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>>159176541
enduring soul or other utility
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Trumpeter(s)'s a cunt
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>>159176541
Draconic Reaction?
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>>159177140
>TRUMPeter a cunt
really makes you think
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>>159179165
damn so deep
cast my vote for Trump in a blue state today lmao
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>>159179165
How will he ever recover?? I guess I'm a Heraldy Clinton now
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>>159179365
>Heraldy Clinton
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>>159179337
Bragging about a meme vote
*tip*
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Just started Devil Survivor. What are some useful skills to crack from the demons?
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>>159179680
voting is just a meme, a spook
so fuck off you fucking street shitter
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>>159179746
Crack everything, but especially the dance skills.
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Has anyone ever gotten far enough in Twisted Tokyo? How much damage do the Fiends do?
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>>159179337
Isn't the election next week?
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>>159180520
TT2 - with no buff Mother Harlot can deal 600-800 damage per turn

Someone in gamefaqs mentioned a smirk Soul Drain can do 2000+ in TT9

I never play past TT2 since its getting boring
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>>159180724
Voted early
Physical ballot thankfully, because fuck ballot machines
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>>159179834
i came to this general to flee of lit stirnerposting
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Toki is best girl
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>>159170518
Better than IV.
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>>159183251
It isn't.
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>>159157271
DELETE THIS
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>>159183512
It is to me. All it's missing is Isabeau tripping on her sword.
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>>159179746
Elemental coverage, resistances/nulls, multi-hit stuff, auto skills since they're rare, MP drain, Nosferatu, ailments.

Fuck, almost everything is important.
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Embrace nothingness.
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>>159179746
Not from demons, but always ALWAYS take human opponents' auto skills because you will have very few opportunities to do so. That aside, elemental dances are very good for magical characters, and grab Pierce the moment you see it so you can have at least one physical character not rendered useless by null phys.
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>>159185126
Embrace killing yourself my man
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>>159185592
You first.
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>>159185946
>>159185946
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