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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

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>>158952016
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Play SMT1 casual fucks
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Behold, the power of Chaos!
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ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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>>159186078
SMT starts with Nocturne
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post your favorite SMT related image
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>>159186126
Mata a tus amigos, niño.
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>>159186264
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>>159186173
Maybe if you're a casual
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>>159186440
>playing jrpg
>thinks he's good at video game
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>>159186576
>baw i canot even be assed to play 2d game makes my eyes hurts and miss my dead mom who was skullfuk to death by lawfags
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>>159186078
>need that megaten fix
>boot up SMT on my old iphone
>new iOS makes all the battles lag
>negotiations slow as fuck
>game near unplayable

Why
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>>159186264
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>>159186974
>iphone
Have fun dying in the demon apocalypse fag
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Remember to vote for your favorite mainline
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>>159186126
More like
>One more god dejected
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>>159186264
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>>159186264
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If you were to actually get an email that claims it had a demon summoning program attached, would you actually download it?
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>>159187413
probably not, I don't download things from random emails
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>>159187225
Seeing as how /smtg/ are full of hipster and also casual who never play anything before Nocturne I'll say Strange Journey will get the most vote
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>>159187413
If you say yes and your PC doesn't look like pic related, you are a liar.
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>>159187413
Only if it was from Steven.
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>>159187413
in all my fucking devices
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>>159187413
I wouldn't be able to hit that "I trust this file" acceptance button fast enough.
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>>159187225
Wow, apocalpse finally overtook persona 4, took it long enough
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>>159185946
KOKORO NO YAMI NO NAKA
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>>159187413
fuck a program i want tubes
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Anyone have some cool passwords for Strange Journey?
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Would you let IVA Satan judge you?
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>>159187413
I would be so excited to see that in my email.
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>tfw Gaston has the hypest battle lines but the shittiest mechanics.
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>>159187413
Hell yeah.

Tubes or getting a magatama would be better though, those don't run out of batteries.
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>That Beelzebub fight in Nocturne

I'm level 65. Holy shit I don't know if I was too low level or didn't have the right comp or what but fuck that fight was intense. I just barely managed to eek out a win against him. I'm going to need to level a lot more to finish TDE aren't I?
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>>159187413
Of course I would download it, and probably go
on it for like 3 minutes and then do nothing
else with it because I'm lazy af and don't
want to put in the effort to do anything interesting with it.
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>>159189614
0YvkB3uk4dw#BYu-
F%ukBZxk9QygBYve
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>>159187413
>you download it
>It's Jack Frost!
>turns out it's running on DeSU rules
>"I'll keHEEL you, ho! That way I'll go free hee!"
How do you defend yourself? You get no spells.
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>>159189072
to put in your ass?
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>>159191057
punt his frosty white ass
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>>159191057
I keep a katana and a golf club by my bed

I'll be good
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>>159189614
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>>159191057
I burn a match and throw it at him.

Hehe... Jack never stood a chance.
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>>159191057
i will just put a hand on his head while he tries to punch me
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>>159191484
>Bufu
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>>159191057
Beat him to submission with my laptop, then realize I probably destroyed my only means of demon summoning.
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>>159191556
i live in russia, that nigga have to do it better than that.
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>>159191320
huh didnt expect this one to be that cool desu
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>>159191682
>Ice Pierce
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>>159186078
But I already did.
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>>159191057
Where's that image of Demi-Fiend strangling Jack Frost when you need it?
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>>159186440
>Playing anything but Noctrune, DDS, and Persona 3-5

Persona 2 and Strange Journey are also okay.

SMT1, 2, if..., Persona, Devil Summoner, and Soul Hackers are just not fun.
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>>159193593
end yourself by rope nigga
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>>159193593
sounds like somebody's vagina is crying
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>>159193593
>tfw i find even KMT to be fun
maybe im just mentally ill
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>no 3DS so miss out on mainline and enhanced ports
>no money so can't import PS2 games on my crumbling console
>stuck with playing the older 3rd&4th generation of MegaTens. Maybe 5th if PC runs Revelations or PSP emulator
Fuck. They're fun but playing several dungeon crawlers in a row gets tiring without spicing up entries in between.
>>159186078
I already did.
I'm only starting SMT 2. How long is average playtime?
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>>159194052
you can't emulate the PS2?
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>>159194147
Toaster.
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>>159194052
Just get a couple of blank DVDs and burn the PS2 games to them.
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>>159194052
Suck digital cock for money, buy a Free McBoot PS2 memory card on ebay, and a stack of DVDs
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>>159195168
>Suck digital cock for money
Elaborate.
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>>159195793
Like what Loki did in Digital Devil Story, except you're the bottom.
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>>159191320
Is this real? I've seen this picture, but never really known.
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Rev up those DSPs.
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>>159196718
A ballgame so insane it has to be settled in the Dark Hour.
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>>159195793
Surveys, amazon mturk, qmee to get nickles at a time

The latter gives you money for looking at ads and is negated by Ublockorigin and I use it if I need to throw a couple extra quarters at something
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>>159187225
>people actually liked SJ
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>>159197529
b-b-b-b-bbut y-y-you can't say that word.
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>>159197529
I am more baffled by how people here treat SJ as "mainline"
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>>159197680
if nocturne is mainline, SJ might as well be too
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>>159197667
Shut up Keisuke you're retarded
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>>159197680
Its more mainline than cuckturne, nigger.
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>>159197785
>>159197840
>Strange Journalists

SJ is just a Devil Summoner game with worse combat.
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>>159197916
>just a Devil Summoner game
>implying that's a bad thing in any way
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>>159197916
>admitting to being this casual.
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>>159197680
there's demonicas in smt4 tho
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Strange Journey is worse than Debisama, this is a fact
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>>159198031
shh no one here actually played Debisama
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>>159197998
I beat SJ though, it doesn't play very well outside of the dungeon crawling however
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I was playing KMT and ran into some fuck in Valhalla Corridor who offered to take me to hell so I said yeah why not and now I'm stuck in this green cave maze without access to the COMP (including the automap and the analyzer).

Is this area in any way relevant to the main quest or should I just warp out now?
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>>159198110
I did though
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I'm really liking the setting of Desu so far. Everything is more dire than usual and you get a real sense of urgency while dealing with everyone's shit.
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>>159198529
it's an optional dungeon made for the remake

there's literally no reward for doing it in MT1 so get the fuck out ASAP
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>Demonicas exist in SMT4/Apocalypse
>Demonee-Ho
>Even the fucking Black Demonica, which was cannonly Jack's Squad exclusive
>b-b-b-but strange journey isn't n-n-numbered! It c-cant be mainline!
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>>159199310
Maybe SMT4 isn't canon you ever thoughtabout that chump
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i just really like 1st person grid dungeon crawlers and wish smt would do that again
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>>159199194
Well then guess I'm back to not knowing where the fuck do I go.
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>>159200119
I miss elaborate dungeons with mutliple layers of traps

IV:A was an improvement with Tsukiji Konganji and the Shrine at the start but they didn't have enough meat to really flesh out more traps, and 3D movement always makes them tougher to implement like Nocturne
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>>159200646
Fuck teleport puzzles, konganji sucked balls
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>>159200726
git gud it only took like 30 minutes nigga
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>start a new file
>try to get the Dance of Deathquest
>can't trigger it
I've been talking demons for hours and nothing.
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What's with all the comments about Hope and K both being way older than any human should be?

Is it just because they both spent so much time in the Firmament and the Tokyo time compression affected them?
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What is a debisama
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>>159202091
Japs call Super Mario games SuMari, they do the same shit with almost every game.
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>>159186264
Only way to play
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>>159202282
Flynn is a true inspiration to us all.
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Macca Beam.
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>>159203715
Nice try, but I keep all my macca in the bank.
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>>159203838
There's no bank in SMT
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>>159203931
And that is the reason why:
Paradigm X > SMT
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Remember the Digital Devil Saga books? By the original author of DDS script that had to leave the project early due to illness and eventually released her original vision in the form of these Quantum Digital Saga books.

Well one of them got officially translated few years back but there was absolutely no word on them ever since and people thought the first one sold like shit and the rest wouldn't be coming over.

Well, apparently that is not the case.
Volume 2 coming this year and volumes 3-6 confirmed coming as well with much shorter breaks between them.

https://twitter.com/BentoBooks/status/793990167132393472
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>>159199062
Too bads none of us can relate cause we don't speak nipponese
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>>159204417
These are good news!

Now that I work, I'm gonna pick both for Christmas.
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>>159204417
Also obviously meant volumes 3-5 being confirmed since it's a pentalogy, made a typo and didn't notice.

>>159204981
You better pick it up son, we don't want them dropping the project now.
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>>159205113
But they already promised it, and companies never break promises... right?
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>>159205246
They never promised the rest of the books before this, only said they were working on Volume 2 but that was 2 years ago and also mentioned that if Volume 1 doesn't sell enough they won't be buying the publishing rights to rest of the books.
As for breaking promises, it works a bit different with book publishers seeing as they already secured publishing rights and usually it's a waste of money to buy rights to something and then not publish it.
Especially since they offer both physical and ebook and if they saw physical as unprofitable they can just go ebook way and not lose any money on printing at all.
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>>159204417
>since and people thought the first one sold like shit

EVERYONE POST YOUR HARDCOVER AND WHAT ARE YOU PLAYING
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>>159205428
How good of a read is QDS?
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>>159205874
It's the original vision of the games naturally making it superior to the games.
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>>159205428
>that filename
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>>159205372
Is this their official page?
https://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Tuner-Vol-Quantum-Devil-ebook/dp/B00M9Z3HHM

I searched through their website, and it had no links to order the book.
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>>159206218
Yeah that's where I got mine
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>>159205874
Its good, but that one is more of less just exposition of the world.
>>159206180
i am not gonna believe your lies fag
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kek
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>>159207357
The book explicitly says everyone is /fit/, even the women. So you've got manly adonises and amazons as far as the eye can see.
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>>159207540
what about mike the slug
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>>159207695
Doesn't appear in the first book and I haven't read the other 4 since I don't speak filthy eleven.
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>>159194052
Even average smartphones can run PSP emulator, so I'm sure your toaster can too.
Also this >>159194953
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>>159205428
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>>159210891
OOPS I FORGOT TO ROTATE IT
At least it wasn't upside down like me.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11563777
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>>159204417
>original vision
>woman author
Who cares? It probably consist of betamale fujoshit cuckholdry that have nothing to do with atlus demons.
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>>159204417
When are we ever getting all three official Digital Devil Story books translated?
>>159211231
You haven't read it and it's probably better than reading most shit Atlus considers a story.
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>Cielo is a penisgirl in the books
.........
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>>159211231
Should probably actually read it, you fucking retard.
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>>159211519
t. buttblasted dickloving bookworm
Nobody cares about your picturesless doujinshi fanfics for girls, fuck off.
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>>159211623
Your posts have so many buzzwords I have to read them twice to make sure I got everything right.
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>>159211231
>>159211623
You should fuck off back to /v/ or /pol/ or whatever other shithole you crawled out of.
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>>159211480
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>>159211848
Calm down your autism, sperg.
>browses /smtg/
>calling other boards shitholes
L o l
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>>159211960
Please get cancer and kill yourself you underage shit
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>>159212023
Why are you so buttblasted even, loser?
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>>159211960
>he shitposts on a dead general
Granted why do I still browse /v/
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>>159190794
Nah, you just need to git gud.
50s is fine for Beelzebub, just make sure you have a way to deal with Death Flies' insta death effect.
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>I remain an angel

How did Chaos fags like getting BTFO?
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>>159201330

Hope doesn't get lines about being older. He gets lines about looking younger because he's found his passion again. It was only 7 years between the start of 4 and Final.

K is probably a robot or something. Neither of them ever went to Tokyo until Final.
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>>159215131
K is confirmed to just hang out under the dome a lot so while his Mikado age is ancient his body is actually only around 50, it's in the Notes in Apocalypse.
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>>159215254
>secret to immortality
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>>159215254
So is this another retcon? Nothing about IV implied that K was that old.
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>>159215614
It wasn't ever straight up confirmed in IV but the Samurai mention how K is supposedly way older than he looks and never seems to really age. They very strongly imply it there too.
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>>159215781
>Samurai mention how K is supposedly way older than he looks and never seems to really age. They very strongly imply it there too.
I don't remember this at all. Got a link showing it?
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>>159215849
Not really. It's literally everywhere though. If you boot up your IV save, go to Mikado, and talk to random NPCs you are almost guaranteed to find someone mention it.
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>>159215254

That's stupid. How does K get to Tokyo? That directly contradicts the people in Apocalypse saying that K had always run the bar. That would imply that he's up there running the bar fulltime otherwise they'd mention him being gone for months or years at a time.

>>159215849

Its true.
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>>159215925
>How does K get to Tokyo?
Dunno, K is honestly just one huge enigma. We know nothing about the guy other than that he's old as fuck and doesn't seem to age. Maybe the bar's cellar is deep enough in the earth to run at Tokyo time and every couple years he falls asleep down there and just magically appears for a while.
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>>159214768
>YHVH was just perpetuating a war between Law and Chaos
How did Law fags like getting BTFO?
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>>159215892
>It's literally everywhere though.
It's not and no one is mentioning anything of the sort? Nor have they at earlier points in the game?

>>159215925
>Its true.
Okay, do you have a link then?

I've never seen this even discussed before now.
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>>159216340
It's a bit hard to cite generic NPC dialogue from a game. I'm pretty sure you're the only one who doesn't remember K being really old.
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>>159216340
>I've never seen this even discussed before now.
You must not be here often and skipped nigh on all random NPC talk then. There used to be a lot of discussion about K potentially being an angel or demon or even YHVH himself was an axed plot when IV came out since he was mysterious, unusually old, and had a special portrait.
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>>159216490
I've been browsing for a while and talked to NPCs often because I found out early they had new things to say without warning.
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>>159216490
Are there any angels that only have one eye and have limbs looking like scissors?
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>>159215925
>That directly contradicts the people in Apocalypse saying that K had always run the bar.
That also directly contradicts IV where it's stated that K is the eleventh person to run the tavern.
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With what we know about the Demonic Gene that's rampant in IV's world K probably just had an early strain or mutation in his that gave him longevity and a slower aging process as one of the sideffects. The other samurai of his generation were all killed in action, but if they survived maybe they'd be just like K.
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>>159216557
Better get to replaying both games then. You obviously must have missed a lot more if you didn't even pick up on the K thing.
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>>159217058
How about you provide an actual citation instead of pushing proving your statement on me, even someone mentioning this before Apocalypse happened would be nice.
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>>159217178
K being named, well, K, kinda makes it difficult to quickly search the archives for it. Quite frankly I don't really care about whether you believe it or not, I have better things to do. If you actually cared about the lore and story you would have known about it beforehand anyways since you would have already read about it ingame, so there is really not much point in me running around trying to find "proof". If you are really so curious I'm sure you could find something about it quite easily if you go look through the threads from around July 2013 when IV came out in English.
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>>159217178
>commonly accepted fact that has been talked and theorized on to death and back
>SHOW ME THE PROOFS WHERE IS IT SAID SHOW IT TO ME
Oh fuck off. Back to /v/ with you
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>>159217401
>I have better things to do. If you actually cared about the lore and story you would have known about it beforehand anyways since you would have already read about it ingame
le no true scottsman face
Man I'm even replaying IV for try and find this shit and you can only be an asshole who gets on his high horse making statements you can't even provide so much as a quote for.

>>159217458
>Asking for some evidence is /v/ shit
Man if it's been theorized so much why can't you at least provide a damn example? I just want to know something you apparently know everything about so why can't you at least provide an example?
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So why do the people of Mikado only turn into demons on the massacre route? Obviously the real reason is that it would ruin the happy ending feeling of bonds. But what is the story reason?
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>>159217714
Massacre has a happy ending though
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>>159217714
The sooner you realize "it'd ruin the happy ending" WAS the story reason, the easier it'll be to put this abomination behind us.

If you really want to grasp for straws, maybe YHVH decides to make his slave army because he sees you creating the new universe, but doesn't give a shit if you break the egg because so long as his universe is around he doesn't have to fear you
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>>159217714
When kids do the exam to become Samurai and put on the gauntlet it checks how well the demonic gene is developed in them and only activates if there is a strong enough response. In effect Mikado has had thousands of years to slowly nurture and strengthen the demonic genes in their offsprings that way. Tokyo on the other hand has only had 25 years, not enough time for World of STR to do its part in passing along only the strong demon genes.
I haven't done the Mikado DLC but I assume that gene is what goes out of control and causes people to go nuts in that
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>>159218754
>When kids do the exam to become Samurai and put on the gauntlet it checks how well the demonic gene is developed in them and only activates if there is a strong enough response
The artbook says this is due to having unclean blood though
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>>159218881
The whole demon gene thing is from Apocalypse, I think. I don't remember ever hearing that term during IV. I don't really remembering hearing the term "unclean blood" as anything but Mikado/Angels referring to residence of Tokyo though, unless that's in the DLC?
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>>159219213
>I don't really remembering hearing the term "unclean blood" as anything but Mikado/Angels referring to residence of Tokyo though, unless that's in the DLC?
Nah, it's an artbook thing there's a page that talks about terminology and it says that a person's compatibility with the gauntlet is related to how much Tokyo blood is in their veins under the section for samurai. Then on the next page it outright confirms that Walter, Jonathan, and Flynn are descended from people who escaped the angel's purge way back under the section for chosen ones. Also I believe the arch angel dlc, either Raphael or Uriel freaks out about Flynn having it.

The artbook actually elaborated on a bunch of stuff in IV.
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>>159219476
Oh, then unclean blood in that context does refer to the demonic gene. That's the more scientific explanation of it that STEVEN/Tokyo came up with, I suppose.
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>>159219597
>demonic gene
The demonic gene comes from being descended from unclean ones?
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>>159219640
The demonic gene is literally just that, a gene normally found in demons. It's what allows the Samurai to use magic for example. It's much higher concentrated and nurtured in Mikado than in Tokyo, there is basically no humans in Tokyo that can use magic, while even the worst Samurai have some abilities in that regard. It probably originated from the humans that had lots of contact with demons, Akira is probably a very big offender there, and then got passed along through the generations getting stronger and stronger over time until it eventually brought forth all those "humans" that have ridiculous abilities like Flynn, Walter, and Jonathan.
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>>159219884
I figured this was part of the modifications done to people in the cocoons.
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>As for your fellow... er, I mean your demons
What did he mean by this?
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all this talk about that shitty manga reminds me why I fucking hate the entire IV universe
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>>159221450
It was better when Demonic Gene wasn't canon. Sometimes things really are better left unexplained.
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Played
>Nocturne
>IV
>IV
>SJ
>Overclocked
>Record Breaker
What should I get on next?
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>>159221661
I
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>>159221661
Digital Devil Saga and after that the Raidou games
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I've never finished playing smt4 and I plan on restarting my playtrough.
Last time I screwed up because I went full 50/50 str mag.

Can somebody help me with an optimal level up distribution?
Last time I heard something along the lines of 3 dex, 1 agi, 1 luck or 1 dex, 3 agi, 1 luck.

Also, what are some good dex skills?
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>>159221661
1, 2 and KMT
Digital Devil Saga (both since it's two halves of one game)
Persona 2 (both since it's two halves of one game)
Soul Hackers
Raidou 1 & 2
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>>159221450
Is prayers even translated? Is it better?
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>>159221730
Are they as good as Nocturne?
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>>159221808
Dex/Luck or Mag/Luck
Pretty sure if you have a fast demon in the party you can get away with low Agi. Really so long as you don't try a mixed build or touch STR you should be okay.

Occult Flash, Riot Gun, Desperate Hit, and Blight are all bretty gud.
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>>159221808
It doesn't matter to be honest, the game is going to be trivial no matter how you build your MC.
Focus on Dex with some Luck and Agi if you want to go Physical or Mag with some Agi if you want to go Magical. Either is good and will shit on literally everything in the game, DLC included.
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>>159221992
>>159221985
I never got the point of Agi in IV/IVA. I always just put 5 points in either Mag or Str and still shat on the game.
Care to explain why it's so good?
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>>159221985
>Pretty sure if you have a fast demon in the party you can get away with low Agi.
How so? You want AGI for accuracy and evasion. No AGI at all is going to be kind of shit.
It decides your turn order too, but that's less important outside of some very niche scenarios.
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>>159221932
>Persona 2 without 1
End this meme.
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>>159222087
Did you play IVA on easy mode or something? You need a fair bit of AGI to consistently hit with your skills/spells on the higher difficulties.
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>>159222093
>You want AGI for accuracy and evasion.
Never had a problem with these when skipping Agi in favor of Luck.
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>>159222167
I played it on War with a full Str build and never had any issue with misses desu.
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>>159222183
Luck only affect the hit rate of status ailments though, it does fuck all for your general accuracy and evasion.

>>159222258
I had a lot of issues with misses before I put points into AGI on my War playthrough. I later bumped it up to Apocalypse difficulty before starting Twisted Tokyo and going to Incense farm and periodically checked how frequently Metatron Hordes dodged my normal phys hits. I needed around 390 AGI to not see a miss in ten hits, it was awful. Buffs would obviously help and lower that requirement though.
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>>159222442
I'm saying accuracy and evasion don't matter enough in IV.
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>>159222518
If you go that route absolutely nothing matters in IV since the game becomes a complete joke after the first 5 hours. You could put all your points into STR and still do perfectly fine.
Shit does matter in IVA though.
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>>159222586
Even in the beginning of IV, accuracy and evasion weren't a problem.
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>>159221985
>>159221992
Alright I guess I'll go dex, thanks for the advice!

Any good buff/debuff demon I can get early on or should focus on getting?
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>>159222636
Are you retarded?
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>>159222817
Are you? The guy asked for optimal distribution. Agi isn't worthwhile when if you want to play the game the optimal way, you'll be going for builds that take advantage of Smirk, instant kill, and high ass damage.
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>>159221661
>he unironically finished Nocturne before DDS
Dig on it gaynigger
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>>159216295
kek, no wonder why Satan was so pissed off at YHVH.
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So does P5's light and dark spells do damage like Apocalypse or are they still insta-kills?
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>>159224404

From what I know, instead of having just one line of dark/light spells there's two. One that deals damage and one that has the insta kill chance.
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>>159186264
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>>159187225
>Strange Journey
>Mainline
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You guys like the Raidou games? Awesome concepts but I remember the first one being the worst shit ever with its one button hack n slash gameplay all the way through with a strong healing demon.

The second one was cooler though.
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>>159226028
They both had pretty shit gameplay, those are games you only play for the story. They are good though, yes.
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>>159226216
the cool stuff was that detective exploration gameplay. It felt satisfying to progress if you are hopefully not guide scumming.

All I hated was mostly when you grew really powerful and those increasingly pathetic demons kept harassing you for pointless fights while solving mysteries and shit.
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>>159217592
i remember some ring of gaea woman saying that someone who lost his arm because he wasnt so goody with the rules of the ring and never to be seen again and who other guy who has no arm exists on 4.
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>>159197680
You realize SJ was originally suppose to be called SMT4, right?
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>>159231247
Really makes you think
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In the tips and tricks pastebin under SMT it says
> Hero should focus on VIT/STR with at least 10 INT

What's the point of "with at least 10 INT"?

It's not possible for hero to use magic, right?
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>>159232423
INT helps negotiation, and to a small extent, evasion. By the time you reach end-game with equipment bonuses, you'll even be able to put a few points into MAG for magic defense and LUK for item drops and evade.
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>>159232423
Wasn't there an event you needed a bit of INT for in SMT or was that SMTII?
I really need to replay those games, I remember fuck all
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Does Okamoto die?
I like him man.
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>>159235695
SMTI-II remakes for 3DS on IV engine when?
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>>159236241
>on IV engine
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>>159236241
>3DS
>not PS4/Switch using the models from Persona 5
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What did you name your characters in SMT?
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>>159236807
By their canon names.
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>>159236950
What are their canon names?
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>>159236807
Ryoma, Hayato, Benkei
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How much power does the creator god even have over the world anyway?
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>>159236807
Used my real name for The Hero.

And random japanese names for the rest of the characters.
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>>159236807
Kazuya, Yuji and Takeshi
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>>159237028
They don't have canon names.
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>>159237028
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>>159237417
This.
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>>159237417
An anti-demonite Jerry, you're a RAAAABID anti-demonite!
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>>159237543
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How many slots for demons do you guys go for in the SMT4 games? Just 12? a maybe the max of 24?
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>>159238046
I don't see much point in buying them when you don't actually need them, just save your points for the bigger purchases and when you ever need an extra slot for something you can just drop some points in there. Granted mid-late game you will most likely just buy all of them anyways since you quickly run out of useful things to spend the points on, though that's less a thing in Apocalypse
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Is it normal for there to be so much static in the audio for SMT?
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GAR?
For Atsuro?
It's more likely than you think
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>>159203715
Dormarth confuses my boner.

Where is the line for Furry, exactly?
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Does it matter if you call the franchise as a whole as "SMT" or should you just reserve that for mainline and subtitle everything as "Megaten"
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>>159211480
really?
HOLY FUCK I NEED IT
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>>159240565
I guess Megaten is more appropriate, since it encompases the Megami Tensei games that predated Shin Megami Tensei, but I usually just use SMT because it's shorter.
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>>159239808
Dormarth is furry as shit.
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>>159215781
K is always running the bar. He's been running every day for at least 50 years.

You ahould be asking why he never appears as Demonic K.
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>>159216640
He shares his VA with Satan oddly enough.
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>you will never be a cute godslayer
Why even live
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>>159240932
Lamentable.

Now I am bound by principle to not masturbate to it.
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>>159219884
No it comes from the angels.

>>159221450
It gave us plenty of good stuff. Including Abdiels Kanekoesque design and the mangaka does IVA cutscenes.

It also confirmed Tamagamis ateocities were done with the aid of angels.
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>>159237054
>not Musashi

Chaos Hero is definitely a Musashi.
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>>159242334
>not law since he bites the dust to save the gang
What would be Heroine?
Michiru? Kei?
>>159241853
I do not comprehend, what's the benefit of making humans filth?
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>>159243017

You're assuming that the demon gene makes you filth, it does not. The angels gave the people of Mikado the demon gene on purpose, to trigger whenever humans get too advanced. Its a warning flag that the millenium kingdom is getting too chaotic and they've got to purge shit again.
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>>159243618
And if things are going to shit YHVH just makes his human pawns turn into demons to infect everything else to keep things under his thrall.
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>>159191057
Unless you are a beta bitch skinny as a twig, actually smacking jack frost shouldn't be hard.
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>>159191830
>jack frost having pierce
Nigga?
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Last volume of DeSu manga is now in english.
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>>159248434
>desu
literally who cares i watched evangelion already
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Are there PDFs available for QDS books? I'm a poor spot so I can't afford buying those thru Internet. Are there more Megaten related books to read?
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>>159243618
>>159245235
What happened to conventional Death Stars and flooding?
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>>159248570
I said DeSu not DeSu 2 you fucking retard.
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>>159196682
Its a code for a slime with all the boosts on it.
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>>159236807
Hero: Miruki
Law Hero: Tekechi
Chaos Hero: Kenji
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About to play Soul Hackers for the first time. Any quick tips, like any noob trap builds to avoid?
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>>159249374
LUCK
U
C
K
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>>159249437
Elaborate. As in "luck is useless", or "put everything into luck"?
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>>159240565
In Japan most games that are labelled SMT here aren't labelled SMT there, just considered Megaten. It's not that big of a deal but you're definitely going to trigger some autists online when you call Persona SMT.
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>>159249610

for the MC you want to focus on luck, putting some points into agility and endurance too. Magic is useless on the MC since he can't use any spells at all.

Nemissa should instead try for high magic and intelligence with some in agility and endurance as well.

She has 3 paths of magic depending on how you answer an early game question but the Zio path (by answering that "Sexy defines her") is probably the best.
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>>159249374
Dolphins always lie.
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http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_7_Signups

We should make a team for this
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>>159251214
no
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>>159251214
We should.
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>>159251214
what the fuck is this even? Soccer?
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Who voices Toki? She sounds familiar.
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>>159248434
I didn't even know it was a thing.
How good is it?
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>>159251923
Somebody said potato girl from XenobladeX
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>>159249374
Tips and tricks pastebin.
Hitomi is sexy.
Luck is mad good for the Hacker, just don't neglect endurance.
Bufu sometimes freezes the game.
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>edgelord playthrough in IVA
>Asahi clings to you because she has no one else and silently goes with each your decision later on
You know, that makes it somewhat hot.
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>>159252093
I don't know who that is but I think I got it. Toki sounds a lot like Mrgrgr.
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>>159252201
Nerf Bufu pls
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>>159251863
Yeah, some AI biyearly tournament

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//smtg/
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>>159252325
>>159252093
Turns out they both are the same voice actress. That means she also voiced Hitomi in Soul Hackers.
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>>159252312
>she can never say no
Probably takes hunter ducks in the back alley.
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>>159253201
>ducks

Would you give Doggo the Hamsa?
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>>159253760
Asahi's hair is cute.
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>>159253760
>not da peng
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>>159253760
>Hamsa
So Brahma-Nanashi?
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>>159253760
This picture would be perfect if it didn't have a degenerate devil child.
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>>159256110
Agreed
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>>159252481
>biyearly
>played in the first one
Wait what the fuck /vg/ is 3 years old?
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>>159255151
Da Peng is a fish, not a duck
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>>159258312
Can you fuse this beautiful machine?
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Is the Anti-Poison app worth purchasing?
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>>159260285
short term yes
long term fuck no
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>>159260285
Nothing else to buy. It helps for the Ongyo Ki quest.
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>>159260449
>>159260481
Alright thanks.
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>>159260719
Get rid of your tripcode kid.
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>>159239760
At what point does he get all dark like that?
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>>159261158
Learn to filter. I don't have a trip.
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>>159261158
Just for the record, you should learn what a tripcode even is before complaining about them. It ads validity to your complaints.
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I'm early into smtiv:a and I'm in ueno, ameyoko way.

I see a tentacled thing on the wall where you can jump up onto an overhang, am I supposed to interact with it?
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>>159261756
Those black stars are for Navarre to cut with his dagger.
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>>159261982
I don't know what that means so I guess I'll be back here later.
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>>159261756
You get a thing called the Jade Dagger fairly soon, and using it on those things gives items. You'll see similar looking walls that will act as roadblocks that you need the same thing for.
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>>159258312
It still baffles me how Johny-boy was shitting on Pluto's actions, and called him a despicable and mindless drone only for him to do the exact same thing a few hours later.

He was such a bro, he shouldn't have died the way he did...
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>>159256110
>>159257373
>Implying a dog isn't the pinnacle of degenerency.
Shit taste.

Not to mention she's so useless she'd be exhausted after her first orgasm. Someone has to satisfy him.
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>>159262373
Hypocrisy is found in all paths of IV and IVA.

Not to mention a whitewasher of authority.
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>>159262505
Dogs are loyal companions of men.
A devil hybrid will never get close to give back even half the love and devotion that a doggo can feel for its master.
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>Toki's personality just 180
Huh, I see what you guys mean now.
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>>159263687
But the most loyal in series hound was a devil. Even being a higher lever than you ever could imagine, he was still your steadfast companion post fusion.
>>159264004
Told you these hoes are unfaithful.
Hiroko and Heroine never ditched you after the lock.
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>>159264004
>>159264375
> OH MASTER I WILL FOLLOW YOU NO MATTER WHAT YOU CHOOSE
>no fuck you i have to kill you

Asahi is the true best girl
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>>159264540
That shit still puzzles me.

WTF, Toki.
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>Nintendo has hired you to chose one character from the megaten universe to join smash bros

Who do you pick?
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>>159264853
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>>159263687
>>159263687
The most loyal dogs are or become a demon.

And Lucys kid Setsuna Kai was part Cerberus because weird demon genes. Same reason Mirai got a gryphon.

So Asahi and Hal must breed half dog Devil Children.
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>>159264853
Tsubasa
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>>159264853
demi-dork or flynn
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>>159264853
>>
Nozomi or Isabeau as Goddess?

Already picked Toki twice.
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>>159264853
Jack Bros./DB busters
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>>159265472
Isabeau. Atlus wants you to shit on the previous protagonist.
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>>159264853
>Gaston jumps into the battle!
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>>159265472
Hallelujah.
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YHVH is beating my monkey ass on Warmode.
Am I supposed to just raw out damage him before he does the MP drain shit in the first form?
Also how do I keep mana flow in Flynn's party?
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>>159265472
Navarre, you casualry scum!
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>>159265539
Well, she admitted to hating me, wanna pick her for ironyfuck.

>>159265619
>>159265647
No dudes.

Also, they're bros, don't wanna sully their memory.
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>>159265539
Flynn was always a tool. We see it from the eyes of someone more special.

>>159264853
Jack Frost who Sentais into other Frosts with Queen/King/Lucifer as his ultimate attack.

Or Devil Children riding their demon partners with a King Chiro by Doi for Hal palette.
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>>159265632
post team
for flynn team use items and dont abuse the heavy mana skills
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Does Dagda watch you fuck your Goddess?
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>>159265758
Hals mom diary story makes it clear Nanashi is his angel just like his dad Samyaza was to his mom.

He'd be happiest with a threesome with Asahi and Nameless.
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>>159264853
HARDCORE HACKER
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>>159266164
The universes watches.
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Dexfag Nanashi
200+ Dex, 200 Ag, 200 Lu
Myriad Arrows
Charge
Nihil Claw
Magaon
Dekunda

Krishna
Concentrate
Energy Drain
Samarecarm
Salvation
Venom Raga
Enduring Soul
Deadly Wind
Combat Candy

Inanna
Concentrate
Dekaja
Energy Drain
Life Surge
Samarecarm
Enduring Soul
Null Phys
Debilitate

Odin
Charge
Gungnir
Magaon
Imposing Stance
Phys Pleroma
Smile Charge
Enduring Soul
Healing Knowhow
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>>159266193
No thanks, boyo.
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>>159266002
Meant to quote
>>159266363
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>>159264853
Flynn.

But Demifiend would be an Assist Trophy.
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>>159266493
aside from the healing knowhow odin, its a pretty decent setup, theres not much to tell you beyong the basics, buuf/debuff, use flynn and create weaknesses, hold your mana in flynn team.
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>>159266363
Str Nanashi > Dex Nanashi, but whatever.

Your Krishna has Deady Wind but no Plenorama, and that's its only real source of damage.

Your party is all jacked up, I'm amazed you did enough damage to get past Vishnu Flynn.

Your Inanna is fucked. It has zero attack spells beyond Energy Drain, when it's a Elemental attacker. And Concentrate for some ungodly reason. And Samarecarm, as though that spell had any use.

Odin has Phys Pleroma instead of High Phys Pleroma, and a bunch of support skills, despite likely being your best damage dealer demon. As well as both Charge AND Smile Charge.
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>>159266670
>A weak tool who can't even pass lvl 99 without being a soul saved by Stephen.
>Would kill himself in matches if fighting in matches with or more foes when one takes another one hostage and you can't stop him.
>Only summons shit Walter and Jon assists who only make things worse.
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>>159266363
>no high phys pleroma on that Odin
>no doping (unless you have navarre for that)
>concentrate on Inanna
>despite her having no attacks besides energy drain
Get some fiends, friend.
A well built Matador will fuck YHVH up quick.
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>>159266386
Your loss.
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>>159265472
Don't you only pick your Goddess in one route?
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>>159267406
Yeah.

I meant that i picked Toki twice on my last two playthroughs.
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>>159266946
Healing Knowhow is the best fucking skill. It's Me Patra, Dekaja, Dekunda, Amrita, Samarecarm, etc. all in one skill slot.
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>So...you won't kill me...instead, you've...

What did he mean by this?
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>>159267538
So you played the same twice and goiing for a third? Why?
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>>159267572
Nigger, he is your physical damage dealer. He is supposed to be hitting things, getting crits, and moving things forward.
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>>159267648
become the Shin Megami Tensei IV
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>>159267572
but in odin, supposedly his damage dealer
i do use healing knowhow on some demons, but not on odin
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ok, so i just started nocturne

for stats i plan on pumping strength up for a 3-4 levels and then adding one point each to vit luck and ag for the next 3 levels

is that good or inefficient

and this is the game where i need to keep my fairy right?
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>>159267690
Because i couldn't bring myself to turn against Dagda.
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>>159267153
I had Doping the first time I tried fighting this fuck and he kept casting Harmony and I get fed up with losing everything.

Yea I fucked up with no attack skills on Inanna

I fucked up from the beginning because I thought Dex scaled with all physical moves like IV.

>>159267114
I had to use Imposing Stance specifically on Vishnu Flynn so he'd stop debuffing my shit so I could get some consistent damage with buffs.

I might just go down to Conflict and finish this. in Dagda Route you don't get the full Flynn party, right?
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>>159268046
>in Dagda Route you don't get the full Flynn party, right?

Sorta, just Flynn and Satan
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>>159268046
>I fucked up from the beginning because I thought Dex scaled
Holy shit, son.

I think Fiends are your only hope for YHVH.
Keep Krishna as your heal/buff slut.
Rework your Inanna or find a replacement.
Either re-work your Odin, or replace him.

Making the perfect demon can turn the tides of any battle.
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>>159262373
Everything after the final route choice in IV is shit.

Same applies to Apocalypse unfortunately.
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>>159268405
That description on Soul Divide is misleading. I thought it was supposed to lower enemy accuracy ranks, but apparently it just has a shitty hit rate. Still nice to use when smirking and it won't whiff though.

>>159267153
I like using Red Rider and Odin as physical attackers since they have signature moves with pierce effects. Keeping their elemental attack as a backup move for tagging weaknesses with isn't a bad idea, but usually not necessary. Thunder Reign is incredibly useful late game though, especially for bullying Metatron hordes.
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>>159266193
what
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>>159268917
>That description on Soul Divide is misleading. I thought it was supposed to lower enemy accuracy ranks, but apparently it just has a shitty hit rate.

Wait, are you sure on that?
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>>159268917
Yeah, soul divide is fucking garbage when you aren't smirking.

That glacial blast+concentrate tears enemies apart like no tomorrow though.
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>>159269108
Translated short story from IVA artbook.
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Playing Nocturne. What does LUC do?
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>>159269401
Crit rates, mostly. Also ailment avoid rates
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>>159267876
I just added a couple points to Vit at the beginning and then kept upping strength until I reached 25 before bothering with anything else (didn't want to max it out for a while since str incenses are a thing). Worked fine for me. And yes keep pixie, say you need her when she tries to leave
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>>159269115
I've tried using it on a few hordes(including Trumpeter's), it usually whiffs at least once if I'm not smirking when doing so. The damage is decent when it does hit at least, and the mute effect procs often on things not resistant to it. Of course, I was using Almighty Pleroma to boost the damage done with it and Soul Drain, so maybe the damage isn't as great as I think it is.
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>>159269634
>Strange Journey
>Mainline
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>>159269634
oh great time to proxy vote this again

my favorite is SJ btw ;)
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>>159267902
I suppose, but don't you want to know how the other stuff plays out?
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>>159269973
Seen it on YT, I really dislike Bonds.
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>>159267876
Vit is useful if you're using Deathbound or any expensive physical skills since those use a percentage of your HP(affected by VIT). You need absurd str to get a specific magatama later in the game with a powerful physical skill. Luck is handy for not getting fucked over by ailments, and probably helps with other things like loot and negotiations. Ag is just sorta there, use it to adjust turn order as desired, get a demon with Trafuri if you need to run from battles, Fog Breath and Sukukaja are your main sources of accuracy/evasion most of the game, grab the first, use a demon for the second.

You need to keep the pixie for a special door in 5th Kalpa, and keep track of what you're fusing it into. It's also fine for it to evolve, but I think sac fusions are a no-no, at least if using it as the sacrifice.
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>>159207540
Living in the Junkyard doesn't sound so bad now.
You can turn into an overpowered rape monster during your duties, and flirt with your beautiful and /fit/ comrades during your downtime.
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>>159269634
>Final has more votes then 1 and 2

This poll is obviously rigged by trolls
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>>159270221
Is it just Bonds and Massacre? I thought there was more? I might just watch the rest on YT if I can't bother doing another run.
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>>159271431
Law, Chaos, Bonds and Massacre
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>>159271560
I see. So does that imply Bonds and Massacre are neutral?
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Since I'm a filthy yuro (for the time being) and us filthy yuros don't have it yet, how does SMT IV Apocalypse compare to SMT IV?
I'm mainly talking difficulty. I've seen a lot I like, such as the natural +Fire -Ice on fire demons and so on, instead of the literally anything can do well at literally anything in IVs fusion system.
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>>159271749
yes
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>>159270805
1 and 2 might have done better if people had actually played them
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>>159271749
Yeah.

I guess you can say Massacre is Neutral taken to the extreme
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>>159271749
Yeah. Stephen says they are both the middle path
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>>159264853
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>>159271920
The aspect that you mention is one of the best things IVA does. With these affinities you can create demons like viable ailment casters, not to mention that thanks to the "new" elemental pierces, your endgame demons won't need to have the same 2 Almighty skills. So fusing demons is really fun.

It lacks exploration though, since the game is more linear and has very simple side-quests.

The dungeons are still not great, but they're better than what IV had. It is also more balanced and difficult than IV; you can start in hard mode right away which is pretty neat. Just stay away from Apocalypse mode.
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So I went into Twisted Tokyo and beat the first 3 fiends.
How do I make a good Pale Rider and Matador so I don't fuck up like the other anon with his shit demons?
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>>159272861
Based
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>>159272879
Thanks for the answer.
I obviously have to ask, what's the deal with Apocalypse mode?
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>>159272928
Matador is
>andalucia
>null ice
>charge
>phys pleroma
>high phys pleroma
>phys pierce
>bloody glee/draconic reaction
>filler
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>>159273062
The miss ratio is ridiculous.

You and the endgame demons which you carried over from NG+ will be missing hits to low leveled mobs.
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>>159271953
>>159272115
>>159272606
Well shit. So which is considered the true/canon end?
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>>159273367
both because of copout alternate universe meme
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>>159273367
>Canon
>in SMT

Nigga, just go with the path you believe in, forget popular opinion.
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>>159273315
I take it you unlock it at NG+?
I can't be an absolute madman and do it fresh?
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>>159273367
None, kind of.

The neutral ending of IV leads to SMT IV Apocalypse, but that doesn't make it canon, since we have confirmation that Flynn has also gone law and white in alternate universes.
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>>159273571
It's free DLC, so as long as it is available in your game's virtual store (it's separate from the e-shop) you can choose it if you wish.
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>>159272928
Matador wants physical pleromas and his multi-hit Andalucia means Bloody Glee can actually get a nice bit of extra damage between smirks. All those hits means you don't really need any other physical skills.

Some people advocate for Draconic Reaction, but it doesn't seem to make a significant difference in accuracy, the extra evade is always useful though, and if ANY of those hits from Andalucia whiffs, you lose 2 press turns regardless of crits, so it's probably first priority out of possible filler.

Charge is a given, and null Ice covers weakness without completely discouraging bosses with 3+ press turns from using that element the way drain/repel do.

Other filler is mainly more nulls, and Soul Drain since all the Fiends come with that and it means someone else doesn't have to waste a turn on MP items.
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october is over but I still want to bully Nozomi.
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>>159274327
KEEP GOING
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>>159273907
> Free DLC.
Mmmmmmmmm.
Apocalypse here I come.
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>>159273440
>>159273719
I see.

>>159273543
No, I get it. but some games seem to lean to one over the other.
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>>159274438
Dare you do it with an no skill/demon whisper run, son of man?

>>159274524
>some games seem to lean to one over the other

Ah, that's true. it's a shame, really.
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>>159274770
>Dare you do it with an no skill/demon whisper run, son of man?
Pic fucking related.

Although I don't think it's possible.
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Fog breath or War cry on daisoujou?
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>>159274770
> No skill/demon whisper.
Don't be crazy man.
I save that kinda thing for the second run. I want my first one to be played normally, albeit on the hardest setting I can get.
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>>159274524
SMT I(and IV) have 2 different sets of endbosses, you need to go neutral to fight them all. II continues from I's neutral ending.

SMT II has the same endboss for all routes, but neutral has the most annoying time with it since you have to take out the help you would have had on the other routes.

SMTIII's best and worst endings are both netural with regard to most of the other characters, TDE in Nocturne Maniax is easiest to get and adds an extra boss but the ending is kind of lame.

Strange Journey has REALLY extremist alignment endings, and Neutral has a great set of reps.

Apocalypse treats Law and Chaos as bad endings, and they end the game early like White ending does in IV.

Devil Survivor gives most of the routes equal treatement, aside from the shitty ending for Yuzu's. Overclocked adds the stuff found in the 7th day of other routes to Yuzu's with an 8th day, and elaborates on the alignment endings more similarly with new end bosses, while giving Naoya/Kaido's route an option to be either benevolent or an asshole. Gin/Haru's route still manages to hold strong in spite of all the extra content for the others.

So yeah, usually a heavy neutral bias, though II prefers alignments, and Devil Survivor tries to be balanced.

I think Demikids games also have multiple endings but I never played into those far enough to see how that goes.
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>>159276060
One on MC or some other demon, so you can set both debuffs in one turn
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Any viable slimes in Final yet?
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>>159276261
It could be interesting if you get Mitra buddha's auto skill onto him.
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Does Nozomi's dialogue change from "PEACE DIVERSITY AND FAERIES LET'S ALL COEXIST" at any point in the game?
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>>159278154
Yeah, if you make her your Megami.
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>>159278154
No, she's your gay lame mom and that's why she's perfect for bullying.
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>>159278232
eeew dude, gross she is like your mom
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>>159279863
>not fucking your fake-mom while your fake dad watches you fuck your fake-mom who has his fake mom inside her
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>>159279863
So?
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>>159278154
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>>159280118
Danu needs to embrace my dick
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>>159264853
Jack Frost. Final Smash involves all Jacks and Frosts.
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>>159273719
>The neutral ending of IV leads to SMT IV Apocalypse, but that doesn't make it canon, since we have confirmation that Flynn has also gone law and white in alternate universes.
Source?
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>>159280650
Jumpin' Jack Smash
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>>159280650
This is the correct answer.
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>>159280773
What do mean source? It's a video game, everything but White Flynn is IN THE GAME.
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>>159281083
What the fuck are you saying?
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>>159280773
Demonic gene, SMT IV-A, and Stephen DLC.
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>>159281175
You're asking for a source, the source is SMT:IV A, what else would the source be?
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>>159279961
so you are fucking your fake grandma?
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>>159281451
>>159281435
There's a Neutral Flynn in IVA and a Neutral Flynn in the Stephen DLC. What Flynn is in Demonic Gene?
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>>159281435
You forgot that free Hunter Memo DLC, the one about Parallel Universes.
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>>159281665
White (Black)
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>>159282243
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Flynn's a much more interesting character when he's not himself
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>>159282908
GLORY BE TO THE MASTER.
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>there are people that didn't kill Nozomi in at least one playthrough
I can't make this shit up
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>>159283371
ERASE THIS!!?
>>
I was an anon bitching about kmt1 difficulty. Turns out I went the wrong way. I forgot to give the dude back his shield and just started exploring further down stairs instead of going to bernie and fighting medusa. Beirn is easy as fuck compared to that.
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>>159282908
He actually comes off as what I imagined him to be like when I played IV, aside from muh master.
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>>159270805
Probably more that if you like the first person games the most you probably prefer SJ for being an actual modern game with real fusion mechanics.
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The encounter rate in KMT makes me want to die
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Do I have to do something to obtain Catoblepas Eyes? They don't seem to drop it.
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>>159283807
Where the fuck is the entrance to Mazurka?
The big map (for what little it helps) tells me I'm on the very edge of Valhalla but that doesn't tell me shit still
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>>159283807
Dungeons were better guarded back then.
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>>159236807
Furin
Yoshio
Waruta
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>>159284565
>Furin
I meant Futsuo
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>>159284283
Nevermind.
I apparently completely ruled out that last corner of the map there.
Or maybe I rushed to heal because Loki left me half dead, I dunno.
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Anyone else not bother fusing or recruiting demons if they're ugly as fuck? I always take aesthetics into account before stats and usefulness
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>>159283371
I killed her and made her my megami
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>>159284850
What about Mara, the second greatest dick monster that rivals the almighty Lord Mishaguji?
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>>159284850
>look ma i am a retard
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>can't fuck madam
Why live?
Also for some reason I've been shifted to law before helping Hiroko, any reason why or how to shift back?
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>Die for Me
>Energy Drain
>Concentrate
>Dark Pleroma
>High Dark Pleroma
>Null Phys
>Null Light
>Dark Pierce
>a bunch of HP incenses

I'm gonna make the perfect Alice.
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>>159236807
My name and my friends' names.
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>>159284850
Same, but most of the ugly/dumb-looking demons are low level and most of the stronger demons are good looking.
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>>159285168
>alice
PEDO
E
D
O
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>>159285317
I literally main Alice in every single SMT game in which she appears. I hated how Nocturne had no Alice.
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Anyone has that webm of Alice's model in Persona 5? First thing that genuinely makes me wish SMT moved back to home consoles.
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>>159284252
I've gotten them from killing, trading with, sparing and recruiting the things(even after the quest was done and I had no use for them), you just have to get lucky.
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>>159285448
>I am literally a pedo
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>>159285113
Keeping your characters with the default name shifts you to law for whatever reason
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>>159285980
Guess my 150+ Lu isn't doing any good.
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>Betray Dagda
>Dagda gets replaced
>acts like a spurned lover when you fight him
>acts all tsundere
>new Dagda is an emotionless robot

Instantly restarted right after that fight. Bros before hoes.
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>>159286017
How would you be a figurative pedo.
And also, who are you quoting?
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>>159286017
Nothing wrong with mirin' a well designed character.
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>>159286162
>g-g-guys I'm totally not a pedo!
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>>159285113
You probably killed too many chaos demons, used too many law facilities or negotiated with too many law demons peacefully, do the opposite and you should be able to undo it.
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This a good party for Hecate?
I hate fusions in this game.
At least I can make a Ganesha with what I got so far. After I level up 18 times.
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>>159286278
fine is this better
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>>159286150
Indeed, since I began the game I knew I was gonna choose Dagda's way to repay him for giving me a new life, he was a bro too.
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>>159286546
>responding
He comes and goes. Just ignore like usual.
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>>159286796
okay I just wanted to post it anyway
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>>159286874
You don't need a reason to post some spicy Moh's, my dude
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Dagda is literally a hypocrite moody teen with mommy issues going through an edgy phase. I decided to not go his route from every single time he kept repeating "You're my puppet, also choose your own way and ignore others. Except for me."
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>>159287225
but he was right
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>>159287309
If he wanted my help, he should have asked nicely.
>Could you please kill all your friends?
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>>159287225
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who is dagdas dad?
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>>159287381
He's Irish, he has to be aggressive
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>>159287446
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elatha
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>>159191057
>Just bought a gun

WORLD OF DEX
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>>159236807
My name for hero
liberal friend for law
Dude weed lmao friend for chaos
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>>159282243
>>159282561
>>159282715
How is the walter manga?
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Post your best Demon.
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>>159289350
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>>159289808
>2 high phys pleroma
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>>159289808
>Andalusia
>Awakened Power
What sorcery is this?
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>>159287381
Asking nicely is just a gentrification of words when his goal is ruthless and brutal. He's not a two faced angel like Merkabah or Nozomi.
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>>159282243
Also White (White) is in Jons.
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>>159289808
best demonfu, fused her before sesha and carried me until [record scratch] universe
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Has anyone here played Megami Tensei I and II? I haven't played them or SMT I and II yet so I was wondering if I should play Megami Tensei I and II first or SMT I and II first.
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Who did the art of IVA Vishnu? Something about the colors feels off from the rest of the Doi demon art. I know it's obviously Doi, but the shading feel a little more Kaneko.
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>that feel when mastema is awful in IVA
2 weaknesses at such a high level is inexcusable
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>>159289808
>Andalusia, 2 phys pleroma, Awakened power
NANI
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>>159291709
You can still pass unique skills via fusion error. I've seen a Yoshitsune with Andalusia.
The pleromas and Awakened Power are bogus, though.
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>>159291850
I wonder if there's a save editor for IV and IVA.
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Just beat IVA and got Massacre ending.

I played the first hour or so of DeSu Overclocked but its so fucking slow.

I love SRPGs and I understand its a DS port but fuck it drags.

Is it just typical JRPG intro sequence or does it drag along?

Should I just play Nocturne instead?
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>>159292014
Play Nocturne, it's the best SMT
Play DDS while you're at it.
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>>159292014
I felt the same way about Devil Survivor. I haven't beaten it yet, but I can safely say playing Nocturne is a better bet. Definitely my favorite in the series so far.
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HEAR
HEAR GOD AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM.
FOR THE HOUR OF HIS JUDGEMENT HAS COME
to you.
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>>159292694
Is it hear god or fear god?
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>>159292014
>>159292189
I liked DeSu but fuck if it isn't obnoxious to play. Everything you do is just so slow, RPGs need to be fast, I don't want to wait 3 seconds for my unit to slowly walk over to the enemy before I can input my next action. It's weird how DeSu is so bad with that too because pretty much all the other SMT games are fast paced and only have very short delays between your button presses.
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>>159289808
>No Draconic Reaction
>Akasha Arts, Luster Candy
Into the trash it goes.
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>>159291850
You can carry over unique skills by using the recommended fusions tool in IVA. Can't really control what shows up and special fusions aren't possible that way, so it's kind of worthless though.
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>>159293195
Wasn't this fixed in the western release?
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>>159293278
Dunno, I played it in JP. Never heard anything about them fixing it though.
I think you can pass unique skills along via Fusion Lite too, but that doesn't let you pick any skills at all so it's garbage too
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>>159291281
Depends on if you want a pure and kinda tough dungeon crawling experience, or an RPG with exploration and a neat, albeit minimalistic story.
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>>159293428
Megami Tensei I and II would fall into the first category, I take it?
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>>159292769
FEAR
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>>159292921
What do you mean? You can set up the walking animations to be fast as fuck.
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>>159293590
Even on the fastest settings the battles are still way too slow. Animations take forever and it feels ridiculously clunky. It's about as shit as FFT or the SNES Tactics Ogre were as far as SRPGs go.
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>>159293590
Maybe I'm just spoiled, but its not SRW fast.
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>>159293551
Yeah, at least for MT1.
I still need to pick up MT2.
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>>159293780
Alright, cool, thanks for your input. I read Megami Tensei II has a pretty good story which made me interested. How long would you say MT1 is? If it's relatively short I'll probably just play MT1&2 first.
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Is cosmic egg the dungeon people keep comparing to SJ final dungeon?
If it is, I don't see it. The place was pretty straightforward.
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>>159294395
I imagine they're comparing it to a specific dungeon after the Cosmic Egg.
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>>159294395
Oh poor, sweet, summer child. It is not.
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>>159294395
It's not, keep going. The place they were talking about is a lot worse.

Also SJ's final dungeon was nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. Maybe if SJ was your very first dungeon crawler, but even then it should be fairly straightforward.
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>>159294585
>>159294395
SJ's final dungeon wasn't bad because it was actually interesting
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>>159294807
Yeah, the final dungeon in IV:A I didn't find all that complex or interesting. It was mostly just exhausting because of how large and spread-out it was.
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>>159294550
>>159294574
>>159294585
Sweet. Thanks, guys. I've got something to look forward to now.

Also, how far am I into the end? I was just from killing all your friends. I'm on the middle of finishing Twisted Tokyo right now after getting awakened power.
>mfw Nanashi voice while accessing menu changed into a creepier tone
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Lucifer and Merk should've both fought you at once in YHVH universe. That would've made things a bit more interesting.

>>159294962
Twisted Tokyo is optional
The next dungeon is the last one, and it's pretty long.
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>>159294962
Next dungeon is the last one.

> I've got something to look forward to now.
Not really. It's a really shitty dungeon. It's pretty much a teleporter maze where every room is so huge it takes 5 minutes to run through. If the rooms were smaller or had anything interesting to them at all and weren't just empty bleak reused platforms it'd be fine, but the way it is it's just ridiculously tedious in the worst way. I don't mind teleporter mazes, I like them even, but Apocalypse did just about everything wrong with them you possibly could
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>>159292694
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>>159295094
>No Hikaru
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>>159295449
Pretty likely that it was drawn before IV.
Also Hikaru isn't blonde, she can't join the club.
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Embrace nothingness
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God, I'm an idiot. I only now realize that Andalucia is literally Kannuki Throw, and that I can easily remake my OP Uriel in IVA.

But is there even anything close to Masakado's Shadow and his extra press turns move, or is that just the paid dlc gems traded for St. Germaine items?
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>>159299984
Just the Hourglass you can trade Jewels for. You can get those without the DLC by trading with demons but it's a huge pain in the ass and would take forever to get a meaningful amount of them.
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>>159286117
That's actually clever.
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>>159299984
>I can easily remake my OP Uriel in IVA.
There is no replacement for dark energy tho, which is actually a good thing. That skill is broken as fuck.
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post cute smt avatars please
i need a new one
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>>159303696
What the fuck do you need an avatar for?
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>>159303956
twitter
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Guys, can I safely skip all the timed requests in Persona 3? These things are so irritating and all I care about is Elizabeth dates, Elizabeth's ultimate battle and Maid outfits.
Reposting here in hopes for an answer.
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Which Megaten game will make me scream and cry like a manchild and tear my hair out due to its difficulty?
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>>159308910
None of them desu
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>>159303956

He means Atma Avatar.
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Why is Mastema the best Angel?
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>>159221450
>>159221627
Nihilism was always a mistake
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>>159240932
>tfw after seeing enough internet garbage you don't care if its furry or not; you just want to fuck it

Then again I can't into traps
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>>159264853
Demi-Fiend or Flynn.

Jack Frost works too.
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>start nocturne on new game plus
>get to keep my compendium and there's no level for fusing
I kinda wanna fuse a bunch of crazy shit, but at the same time I wanna start a fresh playthrough.
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>>159295449
>Wanting a non blonde falseflag
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>>159310478
Just go buy your endgame party and worry about making a new one when you're in the Diet.
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>>159310146
the mistake was writing a world so bad that the white looked good
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Should I discard one of the "Might" skills? This monk fucker helped me against White, Red and Black Riders (he had Stone Gaze earlier, I just stoned these annoying angels).
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>>159312368
Did you get passed that shitty underground tunnel section with the 4 onis yet?
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>>159312442
Yes, already beat them. Illusionist Oni was pretty tough. Fuck that location design.
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>>159312532
Did you fight the Moirae sisters?
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>>159312368
Just one Might is enough, pick off the one you use the least.
You might want to remake a Daisoujou later with Debilitate, since he can easily pay for the 48 MP cost.
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>>159312610
Yes. I killed eldest sister first (magic damage one), rest was easy.
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>>159312724
Bright might then, since that's when demons go berserk
Keep >>159312679 in mind though
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>>159312368
Definitely, pick one Might skill and roll with that.
Full Moon has more demons you can fight but is also a bit more dangerous since enemies crit more during Full Moons too.
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>>159312724
Then get rid of Bright Might, since that's the last boss besides the final boss to use the Kagutsuchi phases for anything.
No, wait, Mara can only be fought at Full, so you could stay with Bright and drop Dark. I just find Dark a lot easier to use since it's faster to go back to New than it is to cycle around and get to Full, so it gets noticeably less use than Dark.
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>>159286117
>do that with Zayin and Beth
>that sudden shift makes me unable to recruit Jack the Ripper
Thanks lawfags.
>>159286301
Dude where are law demons, Valhalla is mostly chaos even after Abyss opens. Using Gaia mainly for healing and still law
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Can I do all the content in DDS2 with a balanced Serph/Seraph?

I went balanced for DDS1 and it worked quite well.
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>>159315523
All content includes Satan and when your stats are capped they are technically balanced, so yes.
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>act nice to chaos demon
>get punched in face
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Bonds
>live the life fucking your dog, Toki, Nozomi and all the QT demons helping rebuild the world

Anarchy
>pick ONE soulless sex slave

The option is obvious.
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>>159316874
[x] Gaston sex slave
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>>159316874
Yeah, Anarchy all the way.

It's very amusing having Isabeau as my sex slave.

Though, i wanted Nozomi so i could sexually bully her.
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>Satan is concentrated
>debuff him and buff myself
>his turn
>Dekunda
>Dekaja
>kills me with an 1800 damage Megiddo Ark
Alright, fuck you too
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How can I learn more powerful physical attack skill? I like my Focus+Lunge damage, but there have to be better skills. Also, last two skill slots are placeholders, but I'm not sure what skills will work best. I already have my demons for various buffs so I don't need Tarukaja. I use Evil Gaze sometimes, but very rare.
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>>159317984
>Kyousuke Sakagami
kys
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>>159318185
Why? 2weeb4you? Game takes place in Tokyo so japanese name makes sense.
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>>159317984
What does it mean?
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>IV
>get to King Kenji
>actually struggling against a boss for first time in hours

Fuck.

At least Infernal Tokyo is pretty comfy.
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>>159317984

You'll want the Nirvana Magatama. The third skill it gives you is Divine Shot which is a pretty physical

You'll also want the Kamudo magatama for Heatwave and Focus.
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>>159318696
Name? Nothing special, just random japanese name.
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>>159318304
>not choosing an official name when naming for weeb games
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>>159319038
Yeah, Kenji was probably the toughest boss since Medusa for me.

If you do all the challenge quests you'll find one worse than Kenji, though.
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>>159320114
>not just using your real name
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>>159320524
Only if you're Japanese.
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>>159320562
Is it hard for you to pretend you're a foreigner visiting Japan or something?
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>>159320640
Picked a good time to go to Japan. Or a bad time. Depends on the game.
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>>159319126
Looks like what I need. Equipped Nirvana for now.
>>159320114
There is a official name? Didn't know about that. I take official names too, if there's any.

Also, I heard there are Seraphims is this game. Are they recruitable? Are they girls? I have an angel fetish. My demon roster includes Principality, Power and Virtue, but all of them are males to my disappointment.
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>>159320915
Definitely a good time.
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>>159320934
Angels are genderless.
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>>159320934
Seraph was Atlus USA's old translation for Herald. They're the named archangels, so there's Gabriel, if she's your type.

And not recruitable, but fuseable.
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>>159320640
>pretend
I fucking hate self insert fags. They should accept their shit life and stop pretending to be a video game character.
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>>159321220
Okay.
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>still in law
>just want to use Gagyson
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>>159320524
>self-insertfag telling anyone what to do
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>>159316517
>acting like a pussy
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My name on the second playthrough of smtiva is akira, is it weeb or kinda good?
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>>159325481
Do you know who Akira is in IVA?
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>>159325579
yes
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>>159325640
Then I don't know why it would be weeb
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>>159325579

I went with Akira on my first playthrough, I was expecting SOMETHING noteworthy to happen because of it because Mikado/Alternate Tokyos but they treat it the same as any other name.
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>>159325824
To add to this, real early on the hunters go on about how they hate the guy for reasons, and get pissed over something you di sometime later, would have been a great time to rub salt in the wounds for sharing his name and likeness.
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>>159325189
>AH, SO YOU WANT TO FIGHT? THEN LET'S GET AT IT!
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>>159326057
>>159325824
>>159325801
I did it for the same reason, kinda sad theres nothing
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>>159326154
That's because you're not choosing a name, but only your hunter handle. Your name is already set as Nanashi.
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Where's Holytown terminal?
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>>159326685
I know, but a comment or something would be nice, just a funny little easter egg
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>>159326685
That doesn't change the fact that everyone in the game aside from Asahi refers to you by your handle, not to mention using THAT guy as a handle would probably still turn some heads. Not a big deal, just a little disappointing, especially since Akira is a common enough name that someone who doesn't know what went on in IV would stumble on any possible surprise reference by accident.

Just offhand I can think of two other games that use the name, and one of them is Demikids.
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Is there any comment if you just choose nanashi as your name?
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>>159288754
Anyone?
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>>159328538
Boss says something along the lines of:
>so you're picking your real name, huh? Nice and simple, it fits you.
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So its draconic reaction worth it on 4? what about hellish mark?
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Why is Navarre so perfect?
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>Succumb to the Demon Gene
>Screen goes red and hear crunching sounds

Damn.
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So where do i get more dekunda and dekaja stones google tells me about horkos along side expanse meat but what about the other? (SMT4)
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>>159332404
Why don't you just get Dekunda and Dekaja?
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>>159332785
cus im using healing knowhow? for the fiend fights? i need all the utility from the items in casy shit hits the fan
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>>159332037
I wonder just how many followers Dagda has since he has an agent.
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I didn't get any help last time, so I'll ask again. How do I go about creating the Perfect Nadja?

I have a fusion calculator and all the DLC I'd need. I just need a plan of action, and I think you fine gents can provide it. What's a good build?
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>>159308910

Majin Tensei 2
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>>159335972
Get the incense DLC and max out her STR.
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>>159335972
I'd say a mixture of attack and healing

Deadly Wind
Concentrate
Mediarahan
Both force pleromas
Force Pierce
Enduring Soul (assuming you're also using her for tear Harlot a new one)
Drain/Repel Ice
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>>159308910
Demikids. Any game.
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>>159337250
>>159337073
Got it. I'll write this down so I don't forget. Nadja's gonna be on my party the whole way through, so I'll report back with word on how fruitful these efforts are. Thanks for the help!
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>>159335751
Not many, i imagine, for to not draw any suspicion.
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Tamakifags will defend this.
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>>159339107
What exagly are you imblying
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>>159339107
>draw a boy in a skirt
>call it a girl
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>>159339597
Explains a lot about Satomi Tadashi
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>>159264853
I want it to be Jack Frost because I'm tired of overload of human characters with "normal" proportions.
After they put Cloud into Smash I'm afraid it will be Narukami.
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>>159335972
>>159337250
Looking at this, I gotta ask: How do you guys even get started on this shit? Like, do you just fuse the shit out of high level demons to get skills onto them and then carry those skills over into a low level demon or whatever?
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>>159264853
Raidou, he can have his own moveset and summon demons from his tubes.
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>>159340420

I assume you'd need to make use of Element race demons to fuse the highest rank demon into the lowest and go from there.
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>>159339107
She was cute in P2
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What did they mean by this?
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>>159341458
she was cute in p1 too desu
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>aww yeeeah, now I can beat the shit out of cripple
>his level scales
>he constantly smirks and I have no removal
>oneshots doods like Satan in late 2nd phase
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>>159320114
Demi-Fiend has no canon name.
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So how do I level break in SMT 2?
Can I do it with any level demons plus a human triple fusion?
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>>159344960
Yeah, but he has official names.
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Happy friday /smt/
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>>159345339
Demon+any human double or triple fusion

Glad mrioe anons are playing through older/SNES SMT games.

Thought it was really cool to know that metatron started off as a fucking mob
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>>159347983
So say if I fuse a bunch of low level demons with any human, I can get something like metatron?
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>>159346435
Nice OC, you HO.
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How many damage is Blight skill deals in Nocturne? I'm thinking of fusing this guy and making use of his Pestilence for muh insant kills. Currently using combo Dormina+Eternal Rest, like it so far.
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>>159349656
No, I dont think so or maybe I never tried. there is some math going on. Its like, for 2 way fusion, you add up the levels divde by two or something like that. But with humans you can pass that but its also random. You can get a level 4 thing, cancel, witrh the same demon and human you could get a cu cuthlian its weird. Just try it out.
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>>159186126
What!? Mother, no!
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In KMT1 is there a way to expand how many demons you have in your comp?
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>>159284714
get ready for the worst part of the game

holy shit it's a tedious area

if you want i can give you a clue
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>>159350503
nope

you can in MT2 though
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>Decide to get out and do something else
>#spiritcooking, Podesta emails, elections
>Drive around town and get cut off by 30 people today
>Rude people left and right
>Christmas toys and Black Friday sales

I've decided to stay in my house and await Armageddon

So how's your day today
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>>159352000
>spiritcooking, Podesta emails, elections
Dont remind me I work with the RNC

They arent helping Trump for shit
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I wonder what is Nanashi trying to say here...
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>>159350469

That's when I instantly regretted my decision.
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>>159353158
Benis
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>>159350469
Shouldn't tha say moe? Since Moe can be translated asburning and all?
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Want to make a Super Satan, which means Akasha Arts and Megiddo Ark will have to be in his skills. What should the other six be?
>>
Why is Samael so cute?
>>
When does Steven or someone increase my comp space? Fuckin hell six is a horrible limit and you at least get 8 in SMT1 within the first 2 or so hours?Unless I forget 1 did
>>159353467
How come?
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>>159354065

I felt bad for Dagda. He gave me life and now I was taking away his.
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>>159353626
:D
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>>159353818
It can?

I thought Moe meant Budding; like, a flower.
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>>159355018
Most nip words have multiple translations
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>>159353851
almighty ple
phys ple
phys high ple
phys pierce
charge
concentrate
...will probably get you the most out of those specific skills. You could skip phys pierce if you just spam almighty on anything that resists it, in which case idk, victory cry or something?
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>>159355901
What's the point of almighty if you have phys pierce
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>>159355961
If he's going to keep both skills around, I'm guessing he intends to actually use them.
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>>159356276
Basically. Akasha Arts will be used on anyone that doesn't resist it, especially En no Ozuno. Other than that, it's Megiddo Ark on everyone else. The question now is to have the last skill be either Healing Knowhow for the pinch support, or Enduring Soul to effectively double his HP.
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>>159356776
Give him enduring soul for stephen
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Hoy
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>>159360256
>>
>A sublime world with no ambiguity
What is that suppose to mean? And what does it have to do with anything Dagda has been saying all this time?
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>>159360551
They're just buzzwords. They don't mean anything.
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>>159360842
>Nanashi is an anon
Really makes you think.
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>>159361978
Look I sided with Dagda and all but I cannot find any connection between anything else he ever said and the "no ambiguity" shit. Sublime, sure, but no ambiguity? What does that mean?
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>>159360256
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>>159360842
I wonder if this is actually true because

>You find yourself motivated by your own words

And both you and Lucifer get a buff.
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>>159362265
No one hides anything from each other. Essentially the NSA's wet dream.
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>>159360551
no jews allowed
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>>159362417
But Dagda is all about the individual.
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>>159362486
That's everywhere though goyim.
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>>159362597
Here's the thing with massacre, siding with Dagdaddy does not necessarily mean you agree with him or will give humans powers like he wants. You can very well make the new universe like the old one, just with a slight difference if you so choose (e.g. No war or violence).
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Who're you guys voting for this Election Year

>Merkahbah with Johnathan
>Lucifer with Walter
>Flynn with Monkey Girl
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>>159363605
>Lucifer with Walter
There's no other choice.
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>>159363605
I dislike primates so Merkabah & Johnathan.
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>>159363605
Flynn will be our liberator.
His pet monkey is also kinda cute
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>>159364056
Fuck off Tokyo.
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>>159363605
MERKY BOY
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>>159363605
i pick nanashi and irish fedoralord
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>Hillary Law
>Trump Neutral
>Jeb Chaos
Would this be correct?
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>>159364898
>Jeb
>relevant
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>>159364898
Who the fuck is a Hillary and Trump.
It's only Merkabah and Lucifer here
Then Flynn and Nanashi for the third party candidates
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>>159364898
If I was American, I would pick the White.
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>>159365192
MAKE TOKYO GREAT AGAIN
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>>159365192
I'm sure Trump is Thor posing as a human, again.
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>>159364898
Libertarians are the Chaos party.
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>>159365532
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>>159363605
I'm voting for the proper party.
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>>159365254
>>159366005
Fuck off Whitefags.
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>only 4 more days until this mockery of an election is over
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>>159365520
>They both have "T" as the first letter of their names
Really makes you think.
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>>159367252
And then we can begin crying and shitposting about the result.
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>>159368245
That's the best part.
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>>159366005
take it
>>
Do you think Trump will get Masakado to help build the wall in case the wall doesn't get paid
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>>159364898
Hilary Neutral-Law, Trump Dark-Law.

>>159363605
Nanashi with Dagda and President wife Hallelujah.
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>>159370020
I think you mean Hillary Dark-Law, Trump Light-Chaos.
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>>159369591
They're gonna destroy the ceiling, kid.

You can't even shitpost right.
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>>159362995
You still retain your humanity on Massacre even as a God. Even Satan knows you're better than Poo and Jean Luc-Picard.
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>>159362265
People are not deceieved by biased opinions that could be true but likely not.

A world that's more chaotic and free, which is why Lucifer is intrigued.
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>>159369591
No he would just nuke Mexico at that point.
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>>159370259
That's my point. Yet all the bondsshitters try to make massacre seen worse than it actually is.
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>>159353158
Waste one more press turn and this cig goes in your lower spear?
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>>159370178
>Trump
>Chaos anything

>>159370784
Because them and Bunkerman try to say they are totally right and ignore ingame canon for headcannons.

Bunkerman still think's it Lawful
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>>159353158
>Bully my doggo one more time and I swear to god I'll break both of your spears
>>
Anyone have that image that showed the numbers of aligned people in /smtg/
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>>159371217
Assuming that bunkerman is just another name for beadman, why would he hate massacre if he thinks it's lawful?
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>>159371492
Dagda and his hypocrisy along with supposedly as as YHVHH or worse.

Ignoring that hypocrisy is found in both routes and even in IV.

Oh and the Angels and Demones being worse despite new guy Adrammelech being the only real demon that's complete dickass, and that Merkabah loved to flip flop between asshole and condescending fake savior in IV's Neutral route.
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>>159372234
>Adrammelech
>dickass
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>>159371492
He used to think it was lawful before, when we just knew bits and pieces from the japanese version. But after playing the game, he doesn't think so anymore.
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>>159372234
I get the point of your post, and agree with all of it, but there's just one thing I want to point out.

>Dagda and his hypocrisy
In the artbook, it's stated that Dagda is intentionally hypocritical because Nanashi/Akira's previous incarnation rejected his offer because he was a bondsfag. So essentially the game is really about Dagda trying to seduce Nanashi to his side, and whether or not it actually worked.
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>>159372460
cockass?

I mean he's an entertaining troll, but that doesn't mean not a dick.

>>159372541
Good
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>>159372763
kek, fucking dagda
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>>159372541
To be fair before Apocalypse came out all of /smtg/ thought it was lawful.
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>>159372763
I know that, but people use Dagdas as a reason why not to Massacre.
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>>159373019
As I said, I agree with your post but I just wanted to point it out to the general.
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>>159372873
Dude has to eat. And not pulling out your demons or using shit weapons don't make se se in a place like Tokyo.
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>>159373016
I didn't. You do recall anons who argued against that right?

We were few but were not led astray by ambiguity like Bunkerman was.
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>>159373234
Must've been the threads I skipped then.
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>>159373354
To specify, I only skipped 2 threads during the build up to Apocalypse's release.
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I'm at the 9th floor of Hologium on SJ's neutral path, but I can't figure out how to get further than that. Did I do something wrong?

>>159366135
pic related
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>>159373234
>Bunkerman
We call him beadman here, just saying.
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>>159373885
I must admit that your pic is really funny and accurate.
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>>159186264
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>159374139
Gross.
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Is there any demon you guys just irrationally hate?
Pic related for me, fucking hate this fucker
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>>159374139

>No, Merkabah, Lucifer, Krishna or YHVH hello kitty version
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>>159374296
Better?
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>>159373234
>Bunkerman
Why do you keep calling HIM that
>>
>>159374470
>DJ Kitty
>just a floating giant hello kitty head
Too spooky.
>>
>>159373885
Hidden walls anon on floor b5 I think.
If I recall that area of B9 are two corridors which have teleporters right?
>>
>>159374587
I am ok with this.
>>
>>159374707
I've gone through that, I'm at the area with the save point you reach via 8F.
>>
Hillary is LAW
she IS the establishment

Trump is either CHAOS or a neuter as he wants to fuck over the establishment.

Assuming he is a nueter Gary Johnson would be chaos or at least his platform is.
>libertarian
>pro forced vaccines and carbon tax
Pick one
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>>159374440
Obligatory.
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>>159374618
Otherwise I have to associate him with anal beads in my mind.
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>>159186264
This never ceases to amuse me.
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>>159374976
If it's the 9F save room, then shouldn't there be a hidden search door leading to the boss room door/near broken elevator then?
Forgive me it's been long since I've touched game.
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>>159375215
whats it mean
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>>159374440
I hate fighting them and I hate their design.
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>>159374440
This little fucker in my pic. I always want to kill it on sight.

>>159375127
It can't be irrational hate when it's obvious why you hate her.
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>>159375192
kek
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>>159375474
Whatever you want it to mean.
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>>159340420
Fuse up the crap you want, then stuff it into an element compatible with the race you want to use it for and work your way up or down from there as needed.

Also the Search function in IV/FINAL has TONS of great extra features that help with getting specific moves on things.
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>>159375515
>It can't be irrational hate when it's obvious why you hate her.
Touché. I guess I don't have a demon like that then.
>>
>>159375474
i guess it's showing the relationship between the characters?
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>>159375474
The pleasure of being cummed inside.
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>>159375474
>Raidou is lolicon
>P1 and P3 heroes get all the ladies
>YHVH and Lucifer are bakas to each other
>SMTI hero is center of attention
>DEVIL MAY CRY

Really makes you think
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>>159374096
Eh, the feet should be swapped. World of STR Chaos would be the "Kick you ass" kind of dickholery, while YHVH would be stepping all over people.
>>
Is it possible to map auto-mapping to a button in smt1, similar to what kyuuyaku had?
>>
>>159380007
nope, that game came out way after SMT1
>>
>>159380007
Only if you patch the automap hack.

You can find it in romhacks.net or something like that.
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>>159375474
Serph gets no bitches, mang
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>>159374440
This and Balor. Can't memorize their weaknesses for shit.
>>
Hoy.
>>
>>159375215
>>159375474
>biggest goddamn arrow is Demi-Fiend envying the entire lower-right bloc, or at least Hacker
>>
>>159364898
I want americucks to leave this general
>>
>>159374440
Girimehkala and Rangda.
Maybe because they always reflect phys, but those two just bother me.
>>
>>159383187
So 95% of the unique IPs?
>>
>>159383187
>Eurotrash
>>
>>159383312
Yes, you guys are worthless garbage of the world anyway. I bet you plebs actually never played more than even 5 games from the franchise.
>>159383330
Enjoy your Hillary :^)
>>
New universe.
>>159380662
>>159380662
>>159380662
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>>159383773
I like this universe. It's comfy and easy to wear.
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>>159337250
>>159335972
Question: Should I swap Mediarahan for Salvation if I find it possible?
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>>159383640
>>159383640
Friendly reminder that yurocucks have to wait until December to play Apocalypse :^).
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>>159310146
Nihil Claw was a mistake.
>>
The pleasure of getting cummed inside when
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>>159385161
Right now. Bend over.
>>
i've only played the persona games (3,4) and i want to get into these games. Should i just go for the Nocturne or is there like a guide or something
>>
>>159390350
> second thing in the op
>>Starter guide
>http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

???
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>>159384207
Assuming 4A, probably not worth it. It only cures ailments when smirking, which you probably won't be when you actually need it.
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