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/vn/ - Setsuna Edition

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Visual Novel General #1226


READ THE FOLLOWING, THIS IS IMPORTANT
>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Read the wiki below
4. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
http://visual-novels-general.wikia.com/wiki/

>Need a novel with a specific element?
http://vndb.org/g

>Download Links:
http://pastebin.com/U7HUj0fk/

Previous threads:
>>158584761

This general is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels.

Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.
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>>158628838
Please Bang My Wife
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1st for saddest girl ;_;
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>>158628868
Dunno. It's a pretty common practice, though. You nearly always see the main studio credited with testing during the credits, not the localization company.
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>>158628838
Stop fucking with op

Fourth for /shitposting/
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>first h-scene with this girl
>doesnt bleed when the ochinchin goes into manko

canadian slut reeeeeeee
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BTW I tried looking for good Setsuna CGs in the game and most of them suck, while Kazusa had a lot of cool ones.
What the hell, it should be more equal.
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>>158629043
Nobody cares Quof.
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>>158629043
guess what, girls don't bleed like stuck pigs when their hymen is torn irl either

not to mention that hymens get torn all the time from things other than intercourse
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>>158629137

B-but my hentai...
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>>158629120
>>158629137
Listen here you cucks, if a game is going to have a god damn marriage+baby ending, why wouldn't the girl be a virgin?

A used goods wife is not going to please anyone except the Swedes.
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>>158629043
PLEASE DON'T POST THIS HERE

THIS OFFENDS ME AS AN EOP
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>>158629120
That's not me friend, Bethly is a pure Canadian maiden
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>>158629392
STOP POSTING GINHARU PLEASE UNLESS YOU PLAN TO TL IT
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>>158629392
I hope you are right anon, besuri is kawaii desuyo
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this face makes me laugh every single time.

finally got around to 100%ing UBW.
It's mildly infuriating when a heroine gets better endings in routes that aren't their own. I get the whole desire to make an emotional roller coaster and tears, but god damn at least have an ending where she doesn't fucking vanish in her own route...
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>>158629392
is this a VN that takes place in canada
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>>158629503
saber deserves a shit ending though so it's ok
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>>158629503

You'll get your Saber happy end when you finish all the others.
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>>158629478
Sorry my friend >>158614734
I do have a moege planned though, someday I'll get to it.
>>158629516
Nah, she's an exchange student in Japan. Her route is the only one where anything involves Canada pretty much.
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>>158629503
The only thing that makes Fate "her route" is that you get to romance her.
UBW is good enough, she still gets end answer and even sticks around.
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>>158629516
Nah she's just a foreigner heroine

>>158629392
What route do you suggest after I finish with Besuri?
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>>158629691
you mean Shirou gets to """romance""" her
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>>158629740
>What route do you suggest after I finish with Besuri?
Really in my opinion these tone-works games only have routes worth doing if you like the girl. So just do the route of whichever girl you like the most next and so on until you don't like the next one too much and that'll be that.
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>>158629542
saber > rin by a lot desu. Maybe I'd like rin more if shirou wasn't written like a worthless doormat and bantered back with her.

>>158629691
the most romance in fate is the date that ended up failing really fucking badly. I'm not counting the forced as hell h-scenes. She was characterized well but the entire time I just wanted to spend more time with her.
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>>158629043
She's not used goods! REEEE
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>>158630085

If she has ever held hands, or even felt attracted to, someone who isn't the MC than she is an irredeemable whore. Sorry anon, those are the rules.
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>>158630085
Actually, if she has sex with the MC, she becomes used goods.
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>>158630312
>>158630323
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>>158629043
She'll reveal to you later how she lost her virginity to some other guy. It happened in one of my NTR games, where the heroine didn't bleed and later revealed how the MC wasn't her first.
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the LEWDEST SHIT EVER POSTED IN /VN/

SPOILER ALERT

TRIGGER WARNING
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>>158630583
getting a bit tired of this meme, honestly
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Quick! I'm horny as fuck! Recommend me a good Nukige with gangbang scenes!
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>>158631313
>good Nukige
>gangbang scenes
pick one and only one
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>>158631313
Violent Semen Inferno
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>>158631347
This
Any nukige with a focus on gangbangs is bad.
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>>158631313
kedamono tachi
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MYTH is now on sale
torrent fucking when?
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>>158632279
isn't it like 10 bucks or something

fuck man, go search under your couch for some crusty bills
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>>158632279
what's MYTH
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>>158632587
My credit card got blocked because I haven't paid for a couple of months. Life's hard when you're broke dude
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>>158630583
You sick fuck.
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So it wasn't a dream, we are getting a new Grisaia and it will be episodic all ages crap. What a disappointment.
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>>158633471
I saw this on 2ch, but it seems that due to the voice actresses being very much not porn, there may not even be dirty jokes in general. Furthermore, fumio is contributing no art, so the direction the series is taking is in complete reverse to Grisaia, making the Japanese think it's just riding off the Grisaia title for money since Frontwing's latest title, Hatsumira, didn't do too well.
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>>158633567
Aren't all of the seiyuu in Grisaia used to doing porn by this point? Why would they suddenly turn their nose up?

My guess is they want more money since they know Grisaia did really well, and FW doesn't wanna pay more.
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>>158633567
>>158634340
Oh, there are new girls, right? Guess that explains why. Most of the VAs in the original Grisaia are mega pros in the eroge industry.
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>>158629662
Instead of Ginharu you should do Hoshiori. Unless that's the one you're already translating.
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>>158634652
I have https://vndb.org/v15870 planned for someday. Hoshi Ori has too many heroines I didn't like to invest time into translating the whole thing.
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>>158633567
>no dirty jokes
>in Grisaia
I had hopes and dreams, and now they're all dead.

>fumio is contributing no art
>implying it's a bad thing
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>>158628838
Thank you for fixing the OP.
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>reading VN
>get to H-scene
>close VN
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>>158635930
>reading VN
See that's your problem.
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>>158636139
I agree

VNs were meant to be played, not read
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>>158636139
>>158636382
I actually can't read so I have my big sister read my VNs for me.
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>>158636441
Does she help you masturbate too?
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>>158636463
Yeah, but it hurts when she or I pulls on the skin, so she uses her mouth.
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>>158636528
Can you show me?
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>>158636550
I'd be right happy to.
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Remember Harmonia?
It's so shit that's not even being releasing in Japan, there's no ads for it and it doesn't have a web site either.
Key only wanted to make a quick buck selling low quality shit that wouldn't sell over there lol
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>>158636809
Harmonia was good though
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>>158636873
lol
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>>158636873
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>>158636932
Why are you posting a whore?
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>>158636960
Amane is a pure girl. She only behaves like a whore for Yuuji.
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>>158637019
>only
Uh-huh
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>>158637089
Name one man she acts like a whore towards excluding Yuuji and maybe the old man at the produce store.
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>>158636960
Don't insult Amane, she's my favorite girl.
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>>158637019
>15 minutes in Amane rotue
>already lusting for Yuuji's dick
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>>158637135
>Name one man she acts like a whore towards
Me, for one.
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>>158637193
You don't believe in love at first sight?
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I hope Fujisaki is the only writer in Phantom Trigger, I don't want a mess of different writers like the first Grisaia was
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>>158637264
Nah.
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>>158637319
I hear in order to speed up production to keep in line with their episodic release schedule, each route will be split into two halves, with two writers on each.
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Question. Why do the three characters in Phantom Trigger, born to non-nip parents, have Japanese names?
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>>158637869
Maybe it's gonna be a plot point. If not, then this would be just retarded.
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Kek
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>>158637264
She's says herself that she didn't love him at all, she just decided that being a slut would be her way of atoning for letting his sister die.
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>>158638058
Yeah, but she was wrong. She just smelled his seed and wanted it.
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>>158637983
What game is this
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>>158638264
PE
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>>158638295
Oh, I should start reading that one
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Why would jops come here and shitpost when then can discuss other kamiges in moonrunes with their fellow elevens?
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>>158638365
Why would you come here and shitpost when you could be learning Japanese and reading all the uncensored kamiges?
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>>158638365
Why do you come here and shitpost?
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I'm gonna play lesbian ghosts.
Wish me luck.
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I'm gonna play poverty-chan's route.
Wish me luck.
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>>158638979
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>>158638979
>yuri
Don't come back.
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I've only read Mitcher and Yumiko's routes so far and I'm currently in Amane's route. Why did the others oppose a bit in Yuuji and Amane's relationship but nobody opposed at all in Yumiko and Mitcher's routes?
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>>158639825
Because different writers yadda yadda.
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>>158639825
Because of racism.
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>>158639885
Oh, really? Is this common in VNs?
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>>158639973
Yes, fairly common. But some may it work better than others. Grisaia is a good example of multiple writers working together poorly. Ever17 is another.
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>>158639973
It's not exactly rare. Also you'll probably notice a difference in quality between the parts written by Fujisaki (Common, Amane, Makina) and the others.
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>>158628838
Can you not fuck with the OP? Retard.
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What VN would you port to Nintendo Switch?
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>>158640642
He didn't.
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>>158640683
Please Bang My Wife
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>>158640683
Please Bang My Wife
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>>158640683
Please Bang My Wife
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>>158640683
Please Bang My Wife
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>>158640683
Please Bang My Wife
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>>158640683
Please Bang My Wife
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>>158640683
Please Bang My Wife
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>>158640683
Please Hold Hands With My Wife
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Please Feed My Wife, She Ordered Her Food An Hour Ago And The Food Still Isn't Here Is This Really The Kind Of Service We Can Expect Here Because I Am Frankly Disappointed
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>>158642070
One big juicy sausage coming for her sir ;^)
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>>158642181
LOL sausage
Like your penis, right? Haha
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>>158642181
This isn't what we ordered. The service here really is terrible. We're leaving.
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test
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>>158642697
kill yourself
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>>158644912
>English
Lol get the fuck out loser.
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>>158644942
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>>158645021
Miki is the killer.
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>>158645065
Liar.
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I'm gonna try to learn Japanese.
Wish me luck.
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i see... this general is still as cancer as i left it
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>>158645304
俺の彼女になれば、俺はお前に日本語を教えてあげる
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>>158645304
There is no trying, you either do it or don't. I can already tell from this small detail that you don't have the will power or discipline to do it. Give up.
>>158645589
You too, give up.
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>>158645628
日本語を習うのが簡単じゃなくても、俺はぜんぜん諦めない!!
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>>158645304

See you tomorrow.
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>>158645731
What is this .gif expressing?
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>>158645065
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>>158645731
The poster tasting something and giving up the rest, then giving a thumbs up saying "yeah go ahead it's great you can do it just bee urself, mate".
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>>158646205
>>158645786

Missquoted.

Enjoy this one where the poster takes the joy out of someone creation and drink all the shit it brings just for fun.
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>>158646284
You dun goofed. Again.
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>>158646284
wow...
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>>158646205
>>158646284
So thinly-veiled distaste, as I thought.

Also, nice one, genius.
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>>158641826
gay
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So Shuffle! Is 19.99usd, are you gonna do your part and pay for the VN you pirated a decade ago?
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>>158647124
No. Buying is for faggot.
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>>158647249
Wew lad, we buy all of our VNs here.
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>>158647124
No, Shuffle was shit and I dropped it an hour in
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>>158647124
No because it's not Essence+.
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>>158647124
Nah I don't use Steam.
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>>158647506
Essence+ is the one with the new routes right? Well it is. They just used the name Shuffle. This question was answered in some tweet.
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>>158647124
If it was the full version maybe, but it's just the crap basic edition.
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>>158647670
It's the PS2 port of Shuffle which added new stuff but after that Essence+ came out and added the PS2 stuff plus even more stuff iirc.
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>>158647670
No, this one is Shuffle! on the stage, which has two additional routes, whereas Essence+ has like five or six. To be completely honest the only ones I'm interested in are the ones added in on the stage, but whatever.
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>>158629503
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>>158634735
Maybe I should abandon any hope I wiil ever get to read Tone Works VN...
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Which new routes did On The Stage have? Mayumi and Kareha? I know I read those in Essence+ but that one had a lot of new routes.
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>>158648964
See ya in 3 days.
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>>158648964
That's because it was a yaoi VN all along.
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>>158649072
Whatever, I needed a break from the shitposting anyway.
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Wait the the Steam Shuffle won't even be the definitive version? What were they thinking?
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>>158649428
>1279x718
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>>158650847
what happened next?
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>>158649072
I don't see anything wrong.
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>>158651085
They did some LSD long slow distance
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>>158651209
iykwim
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>>158651131
I've gotten banned for similar before. It just needs reports for a janitor to actually notice it however.
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Please Bang My Wife
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>>158651743
That would be immoral. I am against fornication.
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>>158628838
>Can you not fuck with the OP? Retard.
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>>158652334
Nice greentext, newfriend.
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Please Bang My Wife.
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>>158648964
Why did this shit get translated? Not a single worthwhile heroine in the entire game. At least it was probably easy for the translators to handle.
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What are some must play VNs released this year?
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>>158654854
wew lad
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>>158655051
Please Bang my Wife
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>>158655076
Don't tell me you actually like one of the heroine? Tell me which one it is anon, I swear I won't berate you.
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>>158655210
Not him but I like Chisato.
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Please Bang my Loli
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When are we getting 18+ version of English Meikyuu?
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>>158655051
Fat Morgan.
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>>158655210
i remember having a good time with poverty-chan
all of them are average
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>>158657093
>>158655614
>he likes trauma-chan and bimbo-chan

haha nerds
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>>158655051
Amatsutsumi
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Please Bang my Japanese Loli
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>>158660350
Please Bang My Daughter
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Please Bang my Yandere
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Wife, Bang Me Please.
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Please Bang my Childhood friend
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Please Bang my Osananajimi
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>>158657592
Are we talking about Koichoco?
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Please Bang My 25 Year Old NEET Son
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Don't you autists ever get tired of posting the same shit over and over again?
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>>158657592
>>158657093
>>158655614

I like Non-chan's route, it was super cute.
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Please Bang my Hikikomori
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>>158661150
No
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Please Bang my Senpai
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>>158661160
I hate how Non-chan's route was never brought to PC even in the rerelease several years later. Console bait is the fucking worst.
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Please Bang my Sensei
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Please Bang my Otou-san
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>>158661629
>>158661239
>>158660528
>>158660090
>>158660287
>>158659625
>>158659030
>>158657689
>>158656868
>>158656797
>>158656721
>>158656580

Fucking vitagen has more real VN discussion than /vn/.
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Please Bang my Vitagen
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>>158648335
Well, translated by me at least. Some guy translated all of Kiminozo and that's even longer, all it takes is the right maniac in the right place at the right time. I'm just not a maniac for Tone Works. They're just okay.
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Please Bang My Chitty Chitty Bang
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Please Bang My Fox
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Are we finally dead? Please be dead.
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>>158663019
I've unironically started learning japanese because of how shit these threads have gotten.
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>>158663263
Learning japanese is probably the best thing I have ever done for myself. Even if you don't read a page of vn it's going to teach you endurance and self control, good luck.
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>>158663263
Good for you. Hope you stick with it, you'll thank yourself later
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>>158663019
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>>158661150
Please Bang My Wife
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>>158663692
>English
Lol fucking loser get out
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>>158663854
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>>158663854
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>>158663978
what the fuck is this language
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>>158664161
Nihongo
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Good lord she is adorable.
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>>158664161
It isn't one. It's just a bunch of random symbols. People like to pretend they mean something but that's obviously not possible.
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Please bang my Nihonjin Girlfriend
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Which VNs will draft me to fight a war?
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>>158666792
Suck my dick or die!
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>>158667037

Which VNs have me die in a war?
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>>158667037
>>158667208
Discipline -The Record of a Crusade-

It is about a holy war against infidels, just like the name indicates.
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>Just looked at some of Maggot Bait CGs

Jesus christ, who the hell though of this shit. Actually how did this even get passed in japan, dont they have obscenity laws or something
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>>158667924
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>>158667924
>dont they have obscenity laws or something
give those guys some credit, they banned distribution of literal child fucking porn a few years ago
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>>158667924
I know, right? I'm hyped as fuck.
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>>158667924
>who the hell thought of this shit
A woman.
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>>158668167
me too
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>barely any hype for MYTH
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>>158669525
Confirmed kusoge by moogy
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>>158669656
wtf i love myth now
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>>158669525
Confirmed kamige by moogy
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>>158669851
>>158669525
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>>158669656
>>158669974
No wonder it's not selling... They must have followed the Voice of the Don.
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Lucia is HOT
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Who are some visual novel characters who literally did nothing wrong?
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>>158671962
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ded thread
ded scene
ded medium
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I haven't read any VNs in the last year.
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>>158674527
read Fata Morgana
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>>158674573
No thanks.
It has ugly art.
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>>158674764
It's beautiful, actually. But you are entitled to your ugly opinion.
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>>158674764
you make me feel sick inside
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>>158674432
We can blame the JOPs for killing this thread
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>>158674764
>>158674810
>>158674929
Legitimate question: Why do people hate Fata Morgana's art? Are they just expecting moeblob?

I could understand not liking it aesthetically, but I've seen a lot of people just shit all over the entirety of the art. It's well-made art, so I'm pretty sure that people who blanket hate it are only doing so because it's different.

Disclaimer: I do not work for Mangagamer.
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Man, Saya no Uta is so goddamn awful in retrospect. What do people even like about it when you get past the initial shock factor and see it for the abysmally written nonsense it is.
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>>158675287
What's nonsense about it?
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>>158675136
desu I didn't like it at first either, because it's just stuff I'm not used to.

It grew on me, though. Some of the CGs looked really good. Some, not so good.

Only thing which actually bugged me a lot were the abstract and blurry backgrounds, which is as expected I guess from a no-budget doujin title. Otherwise the detail to some of the sprites, especially Michel's, was delicious
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>>158675287
Explain why the writing is bad
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>>158675287
>SnU
>shock factor
maybe if you're 12 years old
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Fuck this thread I'm learning Japanese.
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>>158639825
Cause Amane a shit, the rest of the cast knows it too.

>>158640683
Please Bang My Wife
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>>158675136
I think it's just hard to adjust to after so many games where the art is pretty much the same. Fata Morgana has a huge divergence in the art style, so it takes a bit of time.

After getting used to it I liked it quite a bit, but more like "that is a decent painting" rather than "I want to fuck that!!!"
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Rise
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>>158675545
you can't learn japanese
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>>158675817
Right. When you compare it to things like >>158675818 which are obviously meant to be "normal" and fit the sort of moe standard that's been established, FM has far different art.

But I don't see why you can't have an appreciation for both.

FM isn't trying to be the standard, it's trying to do its own thing, and I think it succeeds in that. But there are a lot of people who "ironically" shitpost with
>all-ages kusoge
and I can no longer tell the difference between people who actually mean it and people who are just pretending.
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>>158675440
You know most of Saya's infamous rapey bits are just pointlessly cruel and put in "because" without meaning. That instance of where Yosuke can somehow overpower and rape Saya to helplessness was laughable when you consider her established durability and capabilities.

I'd give a pass to the Yoh story because of how you can excuse Fuminori being completely insane then but still, something about its nature just feels grossly unnecessary.

And also, most of the cast in the story are so fucking stupid it hurts believability. I still laugh when I see how they continue walking into Fuminori's house after seeing the entrance alone.
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>>158661708
So go and stay there you fuck.

>>158666792
>>158667208
Muv Luv. both Unlimited and Alternative.

>>158676189
>and I can no longer tell the difference between people who actually mean it and people who are just pretending.
That's your problem, not ours.
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>>158675136
I just want cute anime girls.
>>158675545
Don't do it anon we need you.
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>>158676249
>And also, most of the cast in the story are so fucking stupid it hurts believability
How so?
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>>158675287
I love the lovecraftian ideas in it, but yea it was not as great as people said.
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Reminder to only buy VNs from Mangagamer
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>>158676249
>I still laugh when I see how they continue walking into Fuminori's house after seeing the entrance alone.
I mean, that's typical horror stuff. You can apply that to a lot of stuff in the genre, "Why does this protagonist/side-character continue on in spite of the horrifying circumstances that they're in?" or, in horror movies, "Why are they still recording all of this bullshit?"

I think being needlessly pedantic about this kind of stuff is just silly.
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>>158676482
Reminder to only pirate VNs from Mangagamer
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>>158675287
>Urobuchi
>abysmally written nonsense
Pick one. He is the best storyteller in the industry and actually understands the importance of length and pacing so you don't end up with 60 hour slogfests like most supposed "kamige".
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>>158676774
>Urobuchi Gen's Equilibrium fanfiction, "Jouka no Monshou", accomplishes more in it's 713 lines than entire other games I've read.
- Quof
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>>158676871
>it's
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>>158676871
>it's
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>>158676445
Well apart from Kouji's female companions both walking into an ominous house to their dooms without considering any alternatives or just leaving, what about the guy himself?

At least twice he explored two places that could've resulted in his death (got lucky) and up until Sakisaka threw him into a well, he still trusted the guy completely even if his thought bubbles indicate more and more suspicion.

The fact he was duped into the well was hilarious in itself. He never became openly hostile to his supposed friend's distant nature and driving him out to the middle of nowhere.
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>>158676735
Reminder to only pirate VNs
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>>158676871
>it's
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Reminder to buy VNs
Please
For me
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>>158676871
>it's
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I want to pirate MYTH, but nobody has bought it.
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>>158676960
>>158677026
>>158677238
>>158677283
C'mon guise
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>>158677478
Don't worry, I make that mistake too sometimes
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>>158677478
Quof this kind of slipshod approach to QC is what keeps you from selling your patches to Sekai Project and making 10 million a year in kickstarter money.
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>>158676721
> I mean, that's typical horror stuff.

And that's why the genre is dying and just plain garbage across the board. Few writers avoid these cliches, but if "typical horror stuff" is having stupid characters as tradition I just can't sympathize or relate to anything.
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So what happened to throwing out all the untranslated visual novels to /jp/?
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>>158677702

can confirm.
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>>158677702
QC isn't a translator's job my friend, even Good Haro and other such big name MG translators make hella typos and transcription errors all the time in scripts. Editor-sama and QC-sama take care of'm. Thank God for that too, cause my typos are horrific.
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>>158677794
It was just one shitposter, JP posters are more than welcome here!
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>>158677883
In-fact, most writers in general across the board in all mediums tend to make tons of errors like that. It's why writers in literature are often so grateful to their editors, and very often dedicate their works to them.

Editing is a really underrated job.
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>>158678060
This. People overpraise Makoto for his translations while forgetting that Moogy's editing is the reason they're good.
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>>158678060
Agreed. The fact editors are so significant and do such good work I think it should be as important to know who edited as who translated.
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>>158678060
>>158678143

thank RNGesus that people like based Chuee exist
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>>158678143
Makoto is an editor himself, though.
He saved that terrible Steins;gate tl
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What do you guys think of pic related? Reading 1-4 so far without skipping over any voices and breaks is probably one of the most overwhelming and longest but strangely immersive experiences of my life.

Currently taking a real breather before diving into 5-8.
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>>158678060
>>158678143
>>158678203
>tfw you edit your own work and still can't catch all the typos

This is a terrible feeling
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>>158654854
It's because it had an anime you fucking goddamn newfag rrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>158678213

You're so nice anonymous
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>>158678490
FUCKING SHIT
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>>158678490
Here we go
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>>158678490
RIP
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>>158678490
5 is great anon, 6 is meh and the last two... well, yeah you'll find out.
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>>158628838
Thank you for fixing the OP.
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I for one welcome our JOP overlords. Please post visual novels I can't read.
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>>158679619
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>>158678490
Get prepared for it to go downhill. 5 is amazing, six is good but has some pretty severe problems, 7&8...oh boy.
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>>158678546
Anon, it's nothing to be ashamed of. It's how the human brain works. You know what you meant to type, so when you look at something you typed, you're not seeing what you typed, you're seeing what your mind thinks you typed. Your mind automatically corrects errors for you. That's why you need somebody else to look at it.
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>>158679894
NO

I AM HAVING SOMEONE PROOFREAD MY WORK RIGHT NOW AND THEY ALREADY FOUND A TYPO IN THE FIRST 800 LINES

IT'S HORRIFYING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
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>>158679982
>THE FIRST 800 LINES
That's a lot of lines man
I average a typo every other line
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>>158680710
Go for Katawa Shoujo my man
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>>158680710
>played
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>start new vn
>no imouto, only a step sister
>despite only becoming your step sister a year ago, still has your last name

fue reeee

how is this believeable at all
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>>158681427
and i forgot: the step mother still has a different last name

so im supposed to believe the step sister got her surname changed, but the golddigger used goods who married into my family kept her surname?

ばかな!
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>>158680710
>played

pls get out
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>>158679761
I might be at risk to spoilers, but is it really wrong that I don't really enjoy Umineko for solving the grand mystery (I don't even care to) but like the colorfulness of it all?

I just love the general setting, dialogue, and characters. More or less, that's why I enjoyed Higurashi over figuring out what's going on.
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Does anyone know who's the main heroine in Supipara ch2? And is it ever getting translated?
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Is there a VN with a better placed sex scene?
I don't think so.
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>>158682690
what an incredibly uncomfortable pose
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>>158682690
if not for that disgusting chin and cheek combination, she'd be really hot
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>>158682690
This isn't translated. Why are you posting it?
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>>158682690
Why are you posting something only you can read?
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>>158682909
Fuck off EOP
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>>158682073
>kokuhaku under the sakura trees
>pretty clever

Give me a break, a confession under the sakura trees is about as cliche as you can get. Nearly the opposite of clever.
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>>158683212
Why did you say kokuhaku and then confession?
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>>158683212
She was being sarcastic.
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>>158682690
That sex scene is better in the PS3 version.
It's not explicit sex, but it has more meaningful dialogue.
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YOURE A FAKE

A FAKE IMOUTO
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>>158683390
>It's not explicit sex,
dropped
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>>158683447
Why are you posting something only you can read?
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>>158683447
Does she know English?
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>>158683529
Eh? Something only I can read? I'm fairly certain there are several people who have played Giniro Haruka in /vn/

Stay jelly, mkay?
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>>158683617
>Eh?
>mkay
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>>158683573
Nah, but Besuri can, being from Canada and all.
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PLEASE tell me that I get to kill this ugly fucking nigger in the blue Tux.

I know this isn't a shonen, but if I were this kid I would eviscerate him then and there. No one gets away with defiling MY Christmas Cake. Fucking nigger. Why is Takuya such a beta fucking cuck? And did Ayumi literally acquiesce to his demands? "Spread your legs" "L-Like this?"
Stupid fucking whore.

Yes, I am mad.
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>>158682073
Going by the updates of the website Supipara is still 17 grand away from the next chapter. Hope you didn't get duped into buying it.
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>>158683912
Reminds me of the creepy teacher from True Love. Gullible heroines are the worst.
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>>158682690
Why are you posting a VN only you can read?
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>>158683982
I did buy it on release day. I was just browsing through my screenshots.

But seriously, does no one knows who the heroine in chapter 2 is?
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I can't learn Japanese. What now?
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>>158683912
You get to sock him once in Ayumi's route I think but that's it.
Anyway, he doesn't appear in the epilogue at all which is the best part of the story anyway.
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>>158684590
Sure you can. You're just being a little bitch with no discipline.
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>>158684590
Resign yourself to mediocrity and become a bitter EOP like this person:

>>158684398
>>158683529
>>158683123
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>>158684669
I only have an IQ of 83. I'm not good at memorization.
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>>158683447
>there's an imouto route
fucking dropped
I can't suspend my disbelief enough to even consider the possibility of wanting to romance my sister. EVEN if she's a step-sister.
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>>158685219
They only met the year before the game starts, they're practically strangers.
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>>158685219
Hey now, your step-sister doesn't have a marriage+baby ending like most of the other heroines. So the MC also didn't want to bust inside, even on her route. That must sting.
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>>158685397
>step-sister doesn't have a marriage+baby ending like most of the other heroines.
Then why the fuck was she in the game? Just replace her with a better heroine with a bigger bust.
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>>158685514
She's the token loli chara. Gotta earn those rorikon bux
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>half-French
>blonde hair

Listen here Japan, I know you think every European country is full of blonde people, but France is especially known for their dark haired beauties.
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>>158685197
You clearly remembered what your IQ was.
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>>158685880
Fucking everyone in Japan has dark hair, you think they're not going to capitalize on the opportunity for blondes?
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Who are the cutest blonde VN characters?
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>>158685980
It is too much to ask for a brown haired foreigner?

Now I'm not turning my nose up at Elis-chan, I just wish we had more variety other than foreigner=blonde.
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>>158686140
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>>158686140
see:
>>158685880
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>>158685880
>the correct choice is to say you are going to assault her eventually, which she actually encourages

Never change, Japan.
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When is all of /vn/ becomeing jap?
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>>158686941
Please stop shitposting.
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>>158686941
Have you seen what's left for you if you don't?
Censored games
Episodic releases
DLC for VNs
Bad translations
VNs that don't get released despite being finished long ago.
Steam only.

Need I go on?
Becoming a JOP is the best thing you can do.
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>>158687242
>Becoming a JOP is the best thing you can do.
Only if you're willing to dedicate almost all of your free time to studying for years. It's not a simple decision, knowing Japanese is obviously better but the time and effort investment is huge.
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>>158687472
>almost all of your free time
A couple of hours a day is not "all of your free time"
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>>158687634
Forgive me for assuming people have jobs and actual lives. I forget everyone is a NEET.
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>>158687634
>A couple of hours a day is not "all of your free time"
If you aren't a NEET, it almost is. That's a few hours that you could be spending doing other hobbies.
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>>158687780
Fuck off EOP
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>>158687842
Why are you so upset?
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Isn't getting nothing done a part of being NEET?
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>>158687693
>>158687780
I mean, unless your super busy or something, I think most people can spend 30 minutes to an hour everyday reviewing vocab. And then instead of reading your normal translated visual novels, you can use that time to try reading/actively listening to native japanese material (manga, anime, VNs), you know, shit that you are already interested in in the first place.
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I like how people suddenly turn into a salaryman that works 20 hours a days and has no free time while simultaneously visiting an image board for no benefit and complaining about censoring / lack of releases.
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>>158688304
Please Bang My Wife
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What's the best nukige released in 2016?
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>>158688452
Kimomen demo Harem Guild
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>>158687242
What if I severely dislike VNs?
Should I still study Japanese or read something I like?
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>>158688452
Kyonyuu Fantasy
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>>158688096
30 minutes isn't much. It will take you considerably longer at that pace to become a competent Japanese reader. You won't be able to read even a moege at that pace until probably at around the 6 month mark.

There's really no reason to learn Japanese unless visual novels, manga, or light novels are your primary hobby, I think.

>>158688304
I work 8-4 and have night classes from 7-10. I have the weekend off, sure, but I have many other hobbies besides visual novels.


>while simultaneously visiting an image board for no benefit
You can easily browse 4chan at work on your phone or something. Briefly, maybe. But since the in-take of information here isn't really that much, it's more than enough to keep up with a thread or even multiple ones while on the job.
>and complaining about censoring / lack of releases.
I don't do that.
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I didn't even mean to say learning Japanese is unreasonable or impossible. Just that it's a huge investment of time and effort, thus not an easy choice as it is often portrayed as.
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>>158688304
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>>158688758
Of course it's not easy, and the people fooled into thinking it's easy will give up a couple of weeks in.

Also, people need to stop comparing learning a language to browsing 4chan. You have to actively engage yourself and actually put effort into learning Japanese. You don't have to do any of that to shitpost.
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>episodic
>kinetic
Is this the future of VNs?
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>>158688995
Only in the west, since people here think paying 80$+ for a VN is too expensive. So you get 3 hour long 20$ VNs instead.
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>>158688995
I hope so.
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>>158688995
Whatever gets them the most money.
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>>158688995
No, 'tis only a fad. The future of VNs will be VRVNs.
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>>158689083
I mean, in context it is. In a market where MGSV, Doom 16, etc, are all $60, any VN being that expensive seems ridiculous.
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>>158688683
You won't be able to read a moege properly for a while, yeah, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. Even if it takes you a while to just read a few lines, you're still improving. Engaging in compelling content is key to language learning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SufCAlzM-TE
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>>158689198
However, engaging in compelling content at such a stage is *work* which requires effort and headaches any way you look at it.
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MG and Nutaku have a Halloween sale.
They're giving Tokyo Babel really cheap, did it sell that bad?
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>>158689198
>but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try
I simply don't have any reason to. My backlog of translated material is fairly large still, and it takes me awhile to finish a visual novel in the first place.
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>>158688995
>tfw EOP and the main thing I enjoy about VNs is the CYOA aspect
>don't have the drive to learn Japanese
I'm ending it
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>>158689460
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>>158689460
Aren't the phrases 'EOP' and 'JOP' a bit narrow? What about the people who're in between?
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>>158689596
You can read this piece of kamige
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>>158689534
Yes
Hell, I bet Fata sold better than it at this point.

The main problem with Tokyo is that it was a considerably larger investment on MG's part for the licensing fees. It has numerous hot-shot VAs in it, so that bumps up the price quite a lot
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>>158689687
EOP includes people who know non-Japanese languages
JOP includes people who are still learning Japanese as they can post untranslated screenshots too.
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>>158689687
No because English and Japanese are the main languages with reading VNs retard.
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>>158689776
I'm pretty sure Fata sold more and did better overall, I mean people at least discuss and post about it, and the license was probably cheap since it's a doujin game.
Tokyo Babel was a mistake.
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>>158689849
There are far more Chinese translations than English ones, you fucking idiot.
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>>158689918
Is this because it's easier to translate Japanese into Chinese than into English?
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>>158690004
I've heard people say that, but I really have no clue how accurate that is.

Old Japanese is basically Chinese from what I know, so maybe that's accurate
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>>158689918
Which obviously aren't brought into the equations of the English community dumbass.
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>>158690075
>are the main languages with reading VNs retard
You didn't specify exclusivity to the English community
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>>158683447
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>>158690071
Japanese is easier to learn for the Chinese by about 30% due to knowing the characters. Old Japanese is written entirely in Chinese characters but is not Chinese. There are more Chinese translations because
1) There are more Chinese people
2) It's easier for Chinese weebs to learn Japanese
3) Some Chinese maniacs translate Japanese games even when they don't know Japanese, relying entirely on the characters being clues to guess meaning (think MTL but a bit easier basically)
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>>158689905
Yeah, it's hard to tell since we don't have accurate sales numbers. Steamspy shifts them around every day in the thousands. But I've seen fuckall discussion about Tokyo Babel, and, when people DO bring it up, they mostly prattle on about the VAs.
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I thought China hated Japan
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Tokyo Babel was cool until Not-Yuuji became the protagonist
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>>158686196
Yes.

The entire point of making a foreigner girl in a story is to showcase the fact they're different. while you could do that shit normally in any other work, cantonese adult slide shows only have one skin color, and the tanned version of that cause the japanese are a bunch of xenophobic fucks so the only other way is to make them blonde since most japs are already either brown/black haired.

You could go the other direction and make redheads, but then you run into the problem that they already do red hair as a common thing for animu waifus, and pink, and green, and purple, etc.

Only other choice is when they use white/gray instead, but that carries it's own connotations as well AKA it's bad guy hair.

>>158689170
>in context it is. In a market where MGSV, Doom 16, etc, are all $60
Being fair, that's cause videogames are much more widely accepted as an entertainment form nowadays. Hell, your mom/dad probably plays something nowadays and I don't just mean the iphone/android pleb shit.

if you could get that kind of popularity behind visual novels you could probably make that $80 VN cost something like $15-$20 bucks since it'll be a hell of a lot easier to make their money back with that kind of market instead of the 3000 or so faggots paying for their VNs.
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>>158690521
All asians hate each other.
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>>158690521
Only the government

China has a ton of weeaboos
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>>158690405
>Some Chinese maniacs translate Japanese games even when they don't know Japanese, relying entirely on the characters being clues to guess meaning (think MTL but a bit easier basically)
What kind of mad man does this?
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>>158690634
They're the Chinese equivalent of Fuwatards, I'm guessing.
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>>158690634
I mean, people over here aren't really much different. We just end up having people writing up 300 page books analyzing Cross Channel.
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>>158690602
Ok, you make a fair point. But why the fixation on only platinum blonde hair for foreigners?

For example, I've seen a few dirty blonde characters, but that hair color seems almost reserved for gyaru-charas. Strawberry blonde is occasionally seen as well, but from my experience is usually from gradient hair.

Pic related is what I would consider 'dirty blonde' hair in VNs.
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>>158690746
Does the China scene have a moogy?
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After about two years, I finally have a computer again.
What has been finished/released between 2014 and now that you/vng/ would recommend?
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>>158691147
/vng/ meme wasn't around in 2014, so shit b8 0/8
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>>158691219

Saying /vng/ was/is a meme?
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>>158691147
>/vng/
Kill yourself
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>>158691147
Kimomen demo Harem Guild
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>>158691147
If you just want some relatively new moege, there's Koisuru no Last Resort. Eiyuu Senki is a fun game too if you want some gameplay elements.
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I unironically like moogy.
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>>158691301

Thanks for the recs. I'll look into them both -- for reference, any VN that was released on the Vita (in English) as well as ones translated on the phone, I've probably read.
>So basically just Steins;Gate and the other more popular ones
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>>158692034
Try Harmonia. You won't regret it.
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>>158690969
>But why the fixation on only platinum blonde hair for foreigners?
That can be explained by the fact that japanese don't want something really wild and different from their entertainment. just take a look at their videogame industry, it's all final fantasy/dragon quest/monster hunter/etc. They want the same thing, only repackaged our society is not so different to be honest, we still buy the same COD game with a few palette swaps every year and go to see the same comic book superhero movie

The difference? you and me want something different. To use tired food analogies, while the rest of the world wants nothing more than to dig in to a burger all over again (But this time, with serrano chilly mayonaise!) we want something we haven't tasted yet, we want something weird and exotic, we want to try sashimi for the first time, we want to eat indian food with our fingers, we want to give a shot to that crazy kinoa-grapefruit-kiwi-avocado-wheatgrass protein shake that the local health nut swears by. We are not satisfied by the new burger with serrano chilly mayo.
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>>158692034
Root Double
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>>158692128

I know absolutely nothing about it but a small google search shows it's a key vn so I'll blindly download it alongside Koisuru and Eiyuu Senki.
Thanks everyone.

>>158692137

I actually have that preordered on the Vita.
I'm a bit worried because everything anybody said about it was generally negative.
Pretty much good art -> bad story
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>>158692509
It's pretty bad past A. But A is at least a little enjoyable.

If you're really into story titles, Koisuru is certainly the opposite of what you want; it's just cute girls doing cute things with nearly 0 substance.

Eiyuu*Senki is just Sengoku Rance-lite with a worse cast, but really nice production values and some nice CG.
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>>158692509
Eiyuu Senki is just watered down Sengoku Rance and Root Double is flashbacks the VN. Read Fata Morgana if you want a real kami experience.
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>>158692784
>>158692681

I'll probably cancel my preorder then.
I've heard of Fata Morgana multiple times and even have a few friends who spare no effort to gush about it, so I'll use the money from cancelling Root Double to buy that instead.

I've never actually played Rance so I'll pick that up too
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>>158692773
>already confirmed for February or later next year
Who cares?
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>>158692509

>Vita VNs

I'm still angry that the Sharin no Kuni Vita port goal fell short.
It didn't even make like, a fourth of what it was asking for for any of the other ports on Kickstarter, but still
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>>158692509
That's not true

Root Double has a really good story, the only bad part is the pacing
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>>158693001
They're retrying soon
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>>158692889
Even though I personally didn't like Root Double because of the horrendous pacing I'd still say you should pirate it and try it to see if you like it and I'd probably recommend playing Eiyuu Senki before Sengoku Rance as playing Eiyuu Senki after SR first will most likely just make you want to replay SR like it did with me. But yeah Fata Morgana is kamige.
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Eiyuu Senki's art is terrible, though.
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>>158693390
pleb
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>>158692773
So WHY ISN'T IT BEING RELEASED RIGHT NOW
I WANT IIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>>158693451
Well, it still needs to go through the programming/testing process.
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>>158693451
Be patient man, they've gotta port it to their engine and test for bugs.
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>>158693547
>>158693554
It's just a cocktease.
Furthermore, it's being released early next year, yeah? Alongside Rance 5D/VI?
Not only is that a wallet bomb, but we're forced to choose between playing Rance or Sukisuki first. What they're doing is satanic.
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>>158693082

Neat.
It'll depend on how it goes but I'll pay $40 for a physical copy

>>158693386

I'll do that, anon.
I've been wanting to get back into VNs for a while so I'm pretty excited. I'm ready to lose hours of much needed sleep for all the cute anim grils and grisly descriptions of people eating chicken sandwiches.
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>>158693756
No. Rance is being released this Winter. Probably around Christmas time. DC3 is hitting early next year.

I wouldn't be surprised if they release SukiSuki for Valentines day or something.
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>>158693756
Rance was confirmed for this year iirc. Sukisuki will be Feb or later with Da Capo most likely being the January release.
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>>158693901
>>158693906
Oh, sweet. Got some time to play both Rance games. I do so enjoy being wrong sometimes.
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So how long does it usually take MG to release a game after both translating/editing is done? From what I remember I would but it at 3-4 months usually but i'm probably wrong.
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>>158696579
Himawari's been in scripting and all that for over a year
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>>158692773
Now we just need someone to translate Renai 0 km and the circle will be complete
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>>158696579
Depends. Usually 3-4 months, but it's also dependent on porting difficulty. Like, DCIII was a pretty rough porting job and it had tons of bugs. Not to mention it's the largest officially translated title yet, I think. So obviously that took a bit longer. But something like Funbag Fantasy was 3 months between the announced translation competition and the release, and even then that was mostly due to the fact that the original writer wanted to change some things regarding the localization.

>>158696614
Yes, but to be fair that's on Frontwing's end, apparently.
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>>158693554
this girl can eat apple pies like they are mcribs
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>>158697036
I want to eat her apple pie.
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Bow down before me, you cherry boys!
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>>158697268
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>>158697036
That's nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQr6kulHJnM
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>>158697745
no not this girl again
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>>158697715
That bullet looks very large. Did they do "that"?
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>>158698660
It's called forced perspective. It's like forced animation, it's something shitty artists have to do because they can't make things look big normally.
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>>158697036
>>158697127
>>158693554
Best SukiSuki girl by far, with great h-scenes. Dat ass on Ayame, must be from eating all those appa pies.
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It's time to settle this once and for all:

http://www.strawpoll.me/11527531
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>>158698776
It reminds me of this.
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>>158696896
>Yes, but to be fair that's on Frontwing's end, apparently.
I remember both frontwing and MG saying that it was due to the other side. But i'll believe in MG for that.
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>>158698935
I've never played the game but Touma is objectively superior.
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>>158698935
I have only watched the anime, and I liked Setsuna more.
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There needs to be a "my girlfriend is the president 2" with lolified Trump and Hillary
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>>158699092
That's because the game dumps on Setsuna nearly constantly.

Personally I really dislike Touma's voice in WA2; but I don't dislike her seiyuu per se, just not in WA2. For example, I liked her voice work in LxC2, Noble Works, and especially Dracu-Riot. There's just something about Touma's voice that annoys the hell out of me.
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>>158699424
>not wanting a lolified Bill as the game's designated slut
>not wanting a lolified Bush for baka moe
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>>158699476
I haven't heard the voices. I make my assertions concerning best girl of series I have no knowledge of based solely on aesthetic and I'm usually correct when I get around to learning more about the series.
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Is this going to be on Steam ©?
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>>158699476
Weirdly enough, Kazusa's voice is pretty much Nabatame Hitomi's natural voice.
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>>158699476
Does Setsuna get shit on as much as she did in the anime? At least in the second half. Are there any moments in WA2 where she gets NTR'd as hard she did in the final episode of the anime?
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>>158699781
doubt it

too lewd

they haven't said anything about it, at least
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>>158699872
Oh there's no All-Ages release then.
Alright.
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>>158699868
Yeah, she has a really hard time in CC and Coda, and there are like 4 different scenes where Haruki dumps her and/or has to live knowing that Haruki loves Kazusa more than her, even when she "wins"
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>>158685397
>step-sister doesn't have a marriage+baby ending like most of the other heroines.
>So the MC also didn't want to bust inside, even on her route.
Thanks. I was considering picking this up, but you saved me the trouble.
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>>158700315
>marrying your sister
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>158700301
This sucks. And this is a confirmed """kamige"""? People actually like that shit? Why not just play Please Bang my Wife?
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>>158699781
>still no release date for maggot baits

C'mon, don't make me wait like this.
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>>158699868
It isn't as simple as the anime, but yes, Setsuna gets crapped on a lot for being such a nice girl.

OTOH, Touma is like Silver from Oreshura (the bitch) but with a deep voice. Same bitchy attitude and everything. She's also wealthy, which apparently matters more to WA2's MC than having a loving relationship.
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>>158700504
It is the highest rated kamige
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>>158700374
I know, right? You're supposed to impregnate them first.
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>>158700573
Play Please Bang my Wife to hold you over in the mean time.
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>>158700374
She's not his actual sister, and in fact their parents only recently got married ~1 year prior to the story starting.
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>>158700670
Honestly, this is because the Elevens absolutely adore bittersweet shit like WA2. Just because they rank it #1 doesn't mean the West will.
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>>158700729
Is Please Bang my Wife actually any good or is it a meme?
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>>158700873
It's kamige
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>>158700751
If the story starts off with you as a kid, then it is just as bad as marrying your own sister. You literally grew up with this girl, even if you aren't blood-related, she is still apart of your family, and nobody within that family would ever want to marry someone related. Really, how many people do you know that have married their step-sisters? Especially if they had grown up together when they were very young. Nobody even would consider wanting to marry their step-sister.
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>/vn/ prefers boring doormat Setsuna to Kazusa
And I thought this general couldn't get worse.
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Is myth any good? I vaguely remember someone describing it being similar to Higurashi
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>>158700670
>All that untranslated kamige

>Cross Channel
>Subahibi
>Sakura no Uta
>Baldr Force
>Parfait
>Baldr Sky
>Muramasa
>Kiminozo
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>>158700873
It's cuckoldry, so if that's your cuppa tea, go for it.
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>>158701154
Kastel confirmed it to be trash. Avoid.
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>>158701198
That's a lot of kusoge
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>>158701198
Cross Channel is translated, you fucking idiot.
And you only listed kusoge.
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>>158701286
Cross Channel is rewritten is what you meant to say.
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>>158700989
Majority of /vn/ hasn't even read WA2.
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>>158701423
No, it actually has (2) TWO translations.
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>>158701285
>Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.'
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>>158701154
I'm one hour in and very underwhelmed so far. The Higurashi bits feel like edginess for the sake of it. Right now it reminds me of Never7 I guess? I'm not sure how you can pull of the plot from here but I guess it's still early in
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>>158700986
Did you even read what I wrote? They became step-siblings about a year before the game begins, and they are both attend the same school. They didn't grow up together or anything like that.
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>>158701474
The anime is all we needed to see.
It's kusoge.
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>>158701592
But the game starts when you are a kid, does it not? The main catch of the VN is that you start in middle school and move on to high school and such.
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>>158700670
>no Dies Irae in kamige chart

Have we been lied to?
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>>158701812
You have already played the superior version of it: Fate/Stay Night.
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Stop talking about VNs that have bad art like TypeMoon VNs, Cross Chanel, Muv Luv, Key games, god fucking hell Umineko and Higurashi.
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Does this shit ever get better? I honestly think Extra and Unlimited in their entirety were some of the most torturous experiences I've had. Even crawling into Alternative, you're fucking introduced to a goddamn retread of Unlimited.

It's so shit so far I have some doubts those lingering expectations I still have are way too high.
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>>158701715
The game takes place over 3 seasons, so it isn't like you are spending years upon years together. It skips around quite a bit to depending on the route. I'm playing the Canadian girl's route atm so I can't say how the step-sister's route is.
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>>158690405

My uncle who knows Chinese and had to learn Japanese for medical shit said that kana was the hardest part of learning Japanese for him.
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>>158700670
>非18禁

Is there any version with +18 only and All-Ages only?
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>>158701910
>Thought you were fucking around, its actually on there.
Well there goes my nonexistent hype
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>>158701928
>stop talking about VNs
we already do this
>>158702025
Muv-Luv Alternative is pretty overhyped. I thought it was kind of mediocre, but a lot of people like it, so maybe it'll be different for you. By the time I finished it, I felt like it wasn't worth doing Extra and Unlimited for it.
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>>158701928
CC's art is fine
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>>158701739

There's not even any text in my image
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>>158702025
Yes, it gets really good, did you get to the Coup arc yet? that's where the game deviates from the Unlimited timeline and becomes amazing.
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>>158700670
>FSN
>90
Uhhh....I thought FSN was kusoge???
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We need more games where the main character rapes the heroines.
That's what made Shiki awesome.
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>>158702025
I liked the entire journey from Extra to Alternative. Alternative gets pretty good after they finish recapping everything.
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>>158702202
make sure you do this, anon
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>>158702274
I will never understand why FSN is so popular and acclaimed. It really IS kusoge.
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>>158692889
Fata Morgana is pretty objectively great.
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>>158702274
lol

>believing memes
You probably think 4chan is not reddit now, do you?

全く。。。UPBOATを出る
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>>158702381
Hahaha, yeah, /b/ro, that was epic
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>>158702429
It engages a particular theme in a well-thought out way, and you can see how it progresses from Fate, to Unlimited Blade Works, to Heavens Feel. It's kamige.
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So Fate/Stay Night is actually kamige?
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>>158702486
Why does she look so ugly on the bottom pic?
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>>158702594
Wrong, EOP. Moogy confirmed it as subpar.
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>>158701423
George Henry Shaft's translation of Cross Channel is moogy approved and is undeniably better than Romeo's original Japanese.

>There's that 7 again.
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>>158702383
See the shit I cannot stand about Extra and Unlimited is the porn. Otherwise, they're really mundane but those shoehorned sex scenes that I've seen nobody defend do a really great job at making me lose interest and not give a shit about Takeru. He comes off as a disgusting pervert when I see how or when he decides to get pussy.

They are so goddamn bad and out of place it's actually worth mentioning.

I wish an all-ages version was available to eradicate that from my reading experience.
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>>158702824
The CTRL button is your friend
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Give me one good reason why people discuss untranslated vn content here instead of the designated general for it.
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>>158702824
How much of a bitch do you have to be this upset about porn? Just skip through it if it irks you that much goddamn.
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>>158703026
For the (you)s
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>>158703161
Why does Makina speak like that?
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>>158702824
Extra and Unlimited didn't even have that many sex scenes. If I remember correctly you only get an h-scene in Extra at the very end of the route, and I think it's the same for Unlimited.
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>>158702025
>tfw played Muv-Luv solely for the routes
>only 2 non shit girls
>refuse to play Alternative cause fuck Sumika
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>>158703026
They just want to show off, or they're too scared to go to /jp/.
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>there will never be a VN protagonist as fascinating and beautifully developed as Emiya Shirou again
Fuck
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>>158703206
あのさぁ。。。

It's probably Japan's ebonics
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>>158703328
> cause fuck Sumika
Take that back
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>>158703469
She's shit. Clingy childhood friend cliches are the fucking worst.
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>>158703570
Nah, m8, that's the best trope.
It's perfect wish-fulfillment.
You've never had a childhood crush?
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>>158703570
Say one more bad thing about Sumika and I'll fucking end you.
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>>158703654
She's a SUMICOW

MOO
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>>158702429
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>>158703648
Since when does having a crush, translate to someone who constantly nags at you & cockblocks at every opportunity?
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Explain the appeal of Fate/stay Night
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>>158704162
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>>158704162
see
>>158702594
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>>158704162
"average" high school punk has a unique magical power than is secretly OP as fuck

he participates in a battle royale with the help of the school idol who lusts after him

his familiar is a gender-swapped foreigner who also lusts after him

plus all the cooking scenes where wormgirl lusts after his cooking
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>>158703648
>You've never had a childhood crush?
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>>158704306
That sounds awful.
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>>158704409
It is.
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>>158702429
It's popular and overrated but it's just ok. I loved it as a kid when I was a 15-16 year old edge lord, now I find it a bit childish. If you really want to learn about those heroes, the only thing that makes the series interesting, you should just read the legends. Le Morte d'Arthur, Epic of Gilgamesh, The Ulster Cycle, and Greek myths are more entertaining to read than F/SN. The funny thing is Conjuror says as much but people ignore him when he says stuff they don't want to hear while simultaneously holding his opinion up on a pedestal.
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>>158704409
It might sound awful to us, but it appeals to chuuni teenagers, who then grow nolstalgic about it years later and call it deep, like
>>158702594
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>>158628838
>best girl edition
Aw yiss
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>>158704567
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>>158704607
I read "Le Morte d'Arthur", it's not interesting at all... there's some cool sections that're enjoyable to read just due to historical context and all that, but the legends themselves aren't that interesting. It's so stiff and really just boring.
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>>158704648
Why don't you say that to my face, punk.
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>>158704607
>Le Morte d'Arthur, Epic of Gilgamesh, The Ulster Cycle, and Greek myths are more entertaining to read than F/SN
And you could probably finish all of those and still have time to spare before you can finish reading F/SN
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>>158704306
>plus all the cooking scenes where wormgirl lusts after his cooking
Funnier than it had any right to be.
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>>158704752
You probably just didn't understand it, every thing in Le Morte d'Arthur is an allegory for something else.
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>>158704752
>It's so stiff and really just boring.
Just like the English translation of Fate
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>>158704913
Just like the writing in Fate in general*********************
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>>158704795
Shit, you honestly could. Don't get me wrong there are some good parts of F/SN. It's just most of them lead to bad ends or were not fully developed. Could you imagine a Mind of Steel end? God, would have been better than Rin v Sakura, even though I loved "sisters", it's one of the best scenes.
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>>158704162
The appeal is clear: a complex character-driven magical battle royale taking place within a detailed urban fantasy setting. Magic functions alienated from society as I would expect it to function in a modern world, and its practitioners are cold and pragmatic as a rule.

Fate delivered beyond my expectations. Compelling characters and motivations, thought provoking conflict, great storytelling, the mythology of almost every Servant is intriguing.

>>158704409
Because it's all untrue, and bait. Shirou is a shitter strength-wise, there is no "idol who lusts after him" and Nasu explicitly shits on waifu
shitters by having Rin date other guys in non-UBW routes (as stated in HF True), the "familiar who lusts after him" in her route goes back to her time period and dies, and the last line is so retarded I wouldn't even know where to begin.
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>>158704878
It's still not interesting. If a book relies on allegories to be interesting then I'll say it's not interesting in the first place. From a modern perspective, the characters are flat, the pacing is shit, the stories predictable, and so on and so on. I get the feeling you only called it more interesting than F/SN there to be pretentious without actually expecting anyone here to have read it. Well I have, it's not interesting.
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>>158705103
>If a book relies on allegories to be interesting then I'll say it's not interesting in the first place
>the characters are flat
>the stories predictable
Literally pleb-tier criticisms. Try again.
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>>158703212
correct. one at the very end of each route in extra/unlimited. They're also the only reasons to even bother with extra/unlimited because extra is probably the worst moege i've ever read and unlimited is chuuni without any action. Shit sucks yo. Altered Fable is way better in every way, more eventful arcs, better character development. MORE ACTION.
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>>158705103
>the characters are flat
Now I know you never read it.
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Name a VN better than Grisaia. You literally can't.
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>>158705258
Sorry to say that "interesting" is a pleb tier concept in the first place. If you're going to be a stodgy /lit/ fuck then use something like "intellectually stimulating" so you can call people who disagree with you dumb. Or make other unsubstantiated claims >>158705308
r
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>>158705356
Marunomi. it's about cute fucked up loli's who you must save from misery.
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>>158704607
>If you really want to learn about those heroes, the only thing that makes the series interesting
The franchise isn't about those heroes. It's about humans. The central conceit of F/SN is in fact Shirou and Rin and Sakura and Illya wrestling with "What makes a person a hero?" and "What does a true hero desire?". All the myths are window dressing.
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>>158705075
>complex character-driven magical battle

>look at my lance saber! it can't be dodge, and will never miss, the laws of physics/magic/cause and effects literally don't allow it miss or be dodged saber!

>How the fuck did you dodge my lance?

Soo complex.
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>>158705396
Not an argument
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>>158705418
>"What makes a person a hero?" and "What does a true hero desire?

Neither of these questions are even answered or even asked in F/SN. Hell all you need to be a hero of the bow is B rank mana. What the fuck is B ranked mana?
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>>158705075
>English translation
Please end yourself
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>>158705396
Something can be interesting despite the characters, story, and plot, all being predictable and flat. Caring about these things in the first place is an instant sign of a pleb.
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>>158705474
>Neither of these questions are even answered or even asked in F/SN
Are you sure you read it? The dynamism in the narrative results from using the myth to illuminate the present. Which is entirely the purpose of mythmaking.

>What the fuck is B ranked mana?
Ah, you actually didn't read it. My bad.
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>>158675287
What shocking factor are you talking about?
SnU is actually a sad story of love between species.
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Name a VN worse than FSN. You literally can't.
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>>158705642
>you share a general with these illiterate idiots
holy fuck i hope this is bait
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>>158705848
Suck my dick or die.
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>>158705760
Mis-quoted, meant for >>158705642
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>>158705848
Please Bang my Wife
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>>158705848
zero time dilemma
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>>158705719
Like I said, there are some cool sections that are interesting for historical context (and seeing little tidbits that are oft dredged up in modern media like the topic of discussion F/SN) but the whole book is really friggin long and the majority of it is really dry expository text so it's going to be a dull read if the fundamental aspects of storytelling are boring. No one is picking up Le Morte d'Arthur and finding it an interesting, engaging work anymore.
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>>158705881
>>158705859

Fate/Zero did a better job at answering the question of what is a hero and what do heroes want than F/SN ever did. The only route that even comes close is UBW and it was only from the perspective of a pstd messiah complexed teenage boy.
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>>158675818
Why is she undressing her tights?
Is she daijoubi?
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>>158705848
Umineko
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>>158705356
Please Bang My Wife
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>>158700670
How did Clannad get so popular when Kanon and Air are both better overall?
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>>158706297
Dude fucking Rance is up there, don't take it seriously.
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>>158706059
Not really, but I don't care to debate this because I like FZ and think it's a solid complementary work to FSN.
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>>158701240
NTR the protagonist is okay with is not NTR at all. Pure meme.
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>>158706304

Sad
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>>158706414
The banquet of kings is a better scene than anything in FSN.
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>>158705719
True. While the characters in Fate are technically complex, they never really felt real to me. Almost as if the author set them up as a pilot for the various messages he wanted to convey, and that's all. In a weird way, they're substantial characters without substance.
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>>158706480
>While the characters in Fate are technically complex, they never really felt real to me.
I can assure you Le Morte d'Arthur is no better in this regard
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>>158706387
Even if you disregard the list, the question still remains.
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>>158706548
Characters in Le Morte d'Arthur are not meant to be real. They all represent the pure form of one idea.
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>>158706304
Is the VN fad finally dying in the West?
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>>158705075
> there is no "idol who lusts after him"

So, what is Rin then? She is explicitly referred to as the school's idol more than once. Or are you blind as well as retarded?

I swear you FSN fags are like those Game of Throne turds who will try to dissect every scene to make it more appealing than it really is. Please, enlighten this poor soul how 'Cooking time with Sakura' is oh so important. Does the number of side dishes matter, and if not, why are they discussed ad nauseum?
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>>158706639
It should die so that it can be reborn anew. Honestly VNs will never get big so long as piracy is the main way to consume vns.
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>>158706619
Yeah, I never implied otherwise. When it comes to old literature, finding characters meant to be real is always a treat.
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>muh ancient literature
fuck this gay shit
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>>158706548
I've never read it so I wouldn't know.
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>>158704730
>not believing the man that would make THE Da Vinci jealous
You disgust me anon
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>>158675818
Rise pleases old men for money
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>>158706658
Most fsn fags only watch the anime and pretend they read the novel.
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Denuvo on VNs when?
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>>158706476
The banquet of kings was utterly ridiculous and the only thing it did was pretend that the guy whose definition of "king" was "winner of popularity contest among warriors" had anything to discuss with characters who actually had anything to do with ruling. It was a clumsy attempt for Urobuchi to pretend Iskander was one of the "kings" and that he had any plan or vision whatsoever beyond doing whatever he wanted and hoping other people would post-hoc make it a good thing. Gilgamesh and Arturia actually argue against each others' vision of what a king does in FSN whereas the banquet's only resolution is Iskander going "well I was more popular so I win."

>>158706658
Have a (You).
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>>158706708
Please Bang my Wife
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>>158706789
Wouldn't actually change much so it would just be a waste of money.
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>>158705075
>Shirou is a shitter strength-wise
Nigga have Avalon inside of him and can project noble phantasm and kills servants


WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING?
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Anyone still hyped for Sukisuki release?
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>>158706838
Confirmed for completely missing the point during the banquet
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>>158706880
I'm sure some people like NTR
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>>158706789
Actual marketing for VNs when?
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>>158706782
Rise would definitely be doing enjo kosai if she wasn't locked away
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>>158706880
Yeah, I'm always up for a good moege
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>>158706880
I enjoyed Please Bang My Wife, I'm looking forward to MG's next NTR release.
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>>158706838
Iskander's definition of a king was a tyrant. Did you even read the novel?
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>>158706901
That guy is retarded, don't give him any more (you)s
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>>158706387
Did you ever play the Rance games? Sengoku is addictive as hell, and 6 is better than any modern RPG
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>>158706901

What is the point, then?
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Umineko discussion: Polite, calm, intellectual
F/SN discussion: Rude, shitflinging, pretentious
Really makes you think...
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>>158707121
As a game I'm sure it's fun, as a work of literature, get the fuck out of here man.
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>>158707142
Because a lot of people can read F/SN and not get it. While anyone that makes it to the end of Umineko needs to understand it to even get that far.
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>>158707182
Well EGS is erogamescape, not literaturescape.
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>>158706878
Are you going to explain why any of that makes him not a shitter? Fuck, there's a powerlevel thread on /a/ right now where claims similar to yours are debunked.

>>158706901
Not an argument.

>>158706994
Iskander's entire "philosophy" and ultimately meaningful characterization being a load of nonsensical transparent rationalization for regular selfishness. This by itself wouldn't be too bad if the narrative didn't clearly bend over itself to pretend otherwise by presenting him with no challenges to those ideas, letting him shout down any opposition and saddling him with a doormat Master who has absolutely no way of challenging him in any way. GO just made this worse by actually putting him in situations where the practicality of his philosophy is tested, and it all turns to be a load of bullshit.
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>>158707182
Good thing it isn't literarture nor did it ever pretend to be. The writing is, however, very fun.
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>amane route
>every 15 minutes she demands for sex

What the fuck?
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Let's talk about Grisaia
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>>158707330
Yumiko >
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>>158707294
>taking Grisaia seriously
It's literally made for horny weebs to jerk off and feel like they are capturing cute girls. When it attempts to tackle drama it's cringeworthy at best. Drop that shit
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>>158707386
dog shit > Yumiko > shit
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What is the Evangelion of vn?
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>>158707521
Princess Evangelion
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>>158707521
Princess Evangelion, of course.
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>>158707142
Probably because shitposters have nothing to get out of baiting Umineko fans because the general consensus is that it's shit. FSN on the other hand is a well loved work in both Japan and the west.
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>>158707521

https://vndb.org/v1356
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>>158707593
This post gave me cancer.
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>>158706838
You're right in that Iskander is a brute and a thug, but I don't think he's supposed to be unambiguously correct. He's definitely being a hypocrite, his kingdom was a failure and he's a thug that killed a ton of people for no reason. I'd say the only real victory he has over Saber is that he's able to accept the results of his reign while Saber is a lost little girl who should be proud of what she managed to accomplish, which she doesn't realize and accept until Shirou, in part thanks to Irisviel.

The fact that he comes away looking like the winner is not because he's so marvelous and great but because Saber is at a point of emotional vulnerability and doesn't know how to respond.
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>>158707593
That's factually incorrect, though. Outside of your little echochamber, there are far more people who like Umineko in the West than dislike.
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>>158707657
I mean, it's true. The Japanese fanbase hates Ryuukishi and Moogy's influence in the western fanbase has made the general consensus shift to it being kusoge.
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>>158707541
>>158707546
sauce?
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>>158707742
>The Japanese fanbase hates Ryuukishi
Unsubstantiated claim of the year to be honest
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>>158707742
>Moogy's influence
What fucking influence? Dude's irrelevant.
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>>158707742
>Moogy's influence in the western fanbase
lmao
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Why doesn't MG pay moogy to shill for them? Everyone holds his opinion in high regard.
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What is the Please Bang My Wife of anime?
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>>158707672
>He's definitely being a hypocrite,

Not really, Iskander never set out to be a "good" king nor did have any illusions of a grand ever lasting kingdom. What he hated about saber was not how her kingdom ended but the fact that should would erase the very marks she left on history, soiling the efforts of all the served under her. Iskander understood all kingdoms fall but the bonds of brotherhood and the legends they leave behind would last forever.
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>>158707791
His sales have dropped like crazy since Umineko at least
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>>158707838
>Everyone holds his opinion in high regard.
nobody holds his opinion in high regard except his small group of drones
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>>158707857
No, I mean he's a hypocrite in that he believes a king should do whatever they want and then he criticizes Saber for doing exactly that.
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>>158707672
He is presented as unambiguously correct, and it's ridiculous. Arturia and Gilgamesh have philosophies as kings, Iskander has a bunch of empty platitudes to justify going off adventuring however it pleased him. And of course he's never truly challenged on it because he spends mot of the time alone with Waver, who's completely worthless in as far as challenging him goes.
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>>158707742
>Moogy's influence
You're joking, right? He has none. Otherwise people would be dismissing Fate just as much as he dismisses Umineko.
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>>158707942
>No, I mean he's a hypocrite in that he believes a king should do whatever they want

That's not EXACTLY what he was saying. The king can not be subservient to the state because the king is the state, was what he was trying to say.
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>moogy has no influence
when did so many newfags come to /vn/?
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>>158707979
I don't think his particular philosophy was ever presented as unambiguously correct, but rather that his criticism of Saber's was. After all, Gilgamesh does end up being critical of the views that Iskander holds, even though he finds them amusing.
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>What up and see this

What do you do?

Let's talk about a game we can all agree is kamige.
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>>158708107
Fuck off moogydrone, nobody gives a shit about him besides his small circlejerk and the people that come over shilling for him on /vn/.
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>>158708157
remember11?
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>>158707981
You'd be surprised how many moogy-drones are there.
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>>158708157
>>What up and see this
Wake up and see this

FUCKING AUTO CORRECT
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>>158708107
they unironically like umineko and R07, that tells you all you need about how new they are.
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>>158708157

Touch fluffy tail pray for translation of sequel games.
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>>158708240
Why did you reply to yourself?
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>>158708157
Lie in bed crippled with pain and unable to move properly for weeks, of course.
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>>158708286
I didn't, Conjuerordrone
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I FUCKING HATE NUWANGI FUCKING HATE THAT COCK SUCKER MORE THAN DEKOPOMPO.
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>>158708361
You shouldn't lie on the internet.
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>moogy was one of the founders of TLwiki which used to be the bastion of English translated visual novels
>lol he has no influence
Fucking newfags I swear
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>>158708450

Key words there are 'used to be'.
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>>158708450
To be fair most of his influence has drained since the "professional" have been taking over. When was the last time a TLwiki project even finished?
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I honestly don't know how anyone can actually like moogy. The dude comes off as a majorly insecure asshole and this is very apparent when you read the guys vndb posts. Whenever people start criticizing him he dismisses it as "trolling", and he literally has no opinions of his own.
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>>158708450
i said it once and i'll say it again: the fastest way to spot a newfag is how they respond to mentions of moogy in a thread. oldfags show respect and gratitude, newfags yell about him supposedly having no influence and posting those 10+ year old images
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>>158708450
It was a bastion for mostly poor translations and had almost no quality control. The few good translations that were produced from it were not written by Moogy himself and all Moogy did was give approval to have translations on the website.

He has less followers on Twitter than some EOPs have. Barely anyone takes him seriously or talks about him outside of /vn/, and most of the discussion surrounding him on /vn/ is full of ridicule.
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>>158708612
Why did you respond to yourself again?
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>>158708598
I honestly think you could say the same of most people, just 4chan allows for anonymity.
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>>158708598
I think the more likely case is that YOU are insecure and envious of Moogy's intelligence and are projecting onto him.

>>158708663
Newfag spotted
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>>158708663
It's just a meme that is getting out of control, no one really "respects" him.
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>>158708663
I know this fuck probably searches his name on the 4chan archives and jerks off to the posts about him, I wonder what he felt as he was reading that.
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>>158708740
>no one really "respects" him
except for the entire vn community on twitter, reddit, and every oldfag on /vn/.
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>>158708790
The only people who don't google themselves are those who get no hits when they do so
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>>158708835
>except for the entire vn community on twitter

How come no one follows him then?
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>>158708790
>I know this fuck probably searches his name on the 4chan archives and jerks off to the posts about him, I wonder what he felt as he was reading that.
He has literally said that he regularly searches his name on the 4chan archives in spite of supposedly not coming here anymore. It's expected of an attentionwhore.
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Can we start up a new version of the thread again where talking about Moogy etc is banned?
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>>158708982
Talking about Moogy will never be banned, newfag
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>>158708982
it's called /vitagen/ /v/ and the untranslated thread on /jp/
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>>158708982
/moe/ was like that while it was up. People actually reported the e-celeb posts, and, amazingly, they got deleted pretty quickly.
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I think moogy is a pretty cool guy. Eh shreds people on vndb and doesn't afraid of anything
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>>158709028
I got banned for it once, actually. Posted a Twitter post of his and got it deleted and a one day ban
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>>158709036
/moe/ has a lot of good discussion but without eceleb talk and shit posting this thread would die just as fast as the /moe/ ones.
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Someone make a strawpoll for the Moogy debate
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>>158709139
We could survive fine without e-celeb shit. Just shitpost about other stuff
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>>158709036
I know, that's what I was thinking of when I said it. There has to be a way to have a functioning thread with at least a bit less of the shitposting we get now.
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I tried eating sushi for the first time the other day, probably the worst thing I've ever eaten in my life desu fucking disgusting
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>>158709202
nah, just look at the thread on /jp/, if the board was any faster it would archive before bump limit every time.
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>>158709259

What's the matter? Not processed and slathered in enough grease for you?
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Why do we hate moogy again?
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Name a deeper VN antagonist than Kotomine Kirei.
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>>158709405
Memes got out of control so we send new memes to fight them, but then they got out of control.
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>>158709037
What year is this?
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>>158709456
[insert random VN antagonist here]
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>>158709456
>I'm a psychopath I don't feel anything and human life means nothing to me
whoa so deep
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You know, we're coming up to the thread limit pretty soon. We could just have the new thread ban e-celeb talk. We wouldn't be missing anything.
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>>158709549
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>>158709456
Honestly not man, most vn agonist are asshole just to be assholes.
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Could you make yourself kill a loli if she were a zombie /vn/?
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>>158709765
Why would she need to be a zombie before I'd want to kill her?
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>>158709617
Ban e celeb talk
Ban untranslated visual novel talk
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>>158709765
please don't post untranslated VNs with the intent of fostering discussion
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>>158710039
Yeah so we can talk more about Please Bang My Wife
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>>158710039
The first part of your post is good, but you lost it with the second.
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>>158710081
We can talk about the 10 best English-translated visual novels.
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>>158710140
Neither of them belong here, the second one even has a specific rule against it.
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>>158710140
board rules my man
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Let's settle this once and for all

http://www.strawpoll.me/11528195
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These threads would improve ten fold if EOPs got over their sour grapes and let untranslated happen here.
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>>158709456
This was arguably the best scene for me in F/SN (maybe Answer as well) that really conveyed its message to the viewer with sound arguments from both sides which was stunning in a sense. This series does explore it philosophical themes well
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>>158710314
It wouldn't be /vn/ then, we'd all just move over to /jp/
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Do you think moogy or friends are laughy at this discussion right now?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DInJBgWVzLs

Years later, it still warms my heart. Post yours anon, leave the shit posting behind.
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>>158710516
I don't care
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>>158710616
Still listen to this to calm down sometimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdPg8tYGEgM
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>>158710686
God, that MIDI is shit
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>>158710616
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTAcJ0ZcUkI

Lot of people shit on umineko here, but this track always makes me feel a bit nostalgic about the series. One of my favorite tracks to be honest, it really feels bittersweet to me.
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>>158710616
it sex music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhJgbLr7q4o
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>having to take a picture of this shitty step-sister

I'm not even on her route, wtf game
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holy shit this really takes self-inserting to a whole new level
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>>158711069
>>158711164
are either of these translated?

if so, could you use translated screenshots?
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Post a cuter bird in visual novels, you can't.
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>>158711164

The question is do those choices affect anything at all beyond incredibly minor dialogue changes?
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>>158711164
Even with all that I found the novel to not be immersive.
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>>158710752
I don't think there's a person out there who denies that Umineko had a fantastic OST.
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>>158711069
>>158711164
>>>/jp/
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>>158711204
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>>158711164
i just finished this game anon, the whole chara creation bit was mildly interesting but you only need to use the same loadout to win over every girl

iirc, you need sports and the pc for your hobbies (top left / top right on the section right below blood type) and the bottom one, i forgot.

i used this walkthrough, worked great: http://seiya-saiga.com/game/hibiki/lc2.html

as for routes, i liked Hina-chan (pink hair) and Hime (purple hair) the best. Hime was a nice tomboy chara

this games are almost entirely ichaicha and H though, with the dating sim. not everyone's cuppa tea
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>>158711476
sir this is not a translated image, it's an untranslated visual novel that just has that character reading english text

Seriously fuck off. This has to stop.
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>>158711573
Literally no one is posting, let them be. Better than the "are we dead" bumps that will come.
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>>158711573
>Seriously fuck off.
S-Sorry
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>>158711240
According to the walkthrough you can pick the same choices for every heroine actually. It's a bit of a letdown since those are about your blood type, (2) hobbies, and your best (2) subjects at school
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>>158711573
Quit crying and just learn Japanese already.
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>>158711545
Wait so it does matter what choices you pick? I just picked the ones that applied to me, desu
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>>158711665
I think if you choose the 'pet' option you should get to do BDSM and exhibition play.
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>>158711631
No. If things get posted as jokes, that's something entirely different, but we've had a constant "Japanese VNs" in the OP instead of specifying English-translated ones, which invites a ton of retards and /jp/ rejects to start posting massive amounts of untranslated shit here constantly.

If something's getting translated, talking about it a bit is fine - Dies Irae discussion, in general, wouldn't be out of place here.

But then you have people posting things over and over that belong on /jp/, things that the majority of people here can't discuss because they can't read the language they're in. Look at this:

>>158711665
>>158711783
>>158711816

All discussion of an untranslated VN. This needs to happen in /jp/. It belongs there.
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>>158711783
I'm honestly not sure, I just followed the walkthrough since I wanted all the h-scenes. There's a bunch.

If you are going to go in blind, let me tell you one piece of advice: chase after only a single girl at a time, that's the only way to get onto a route in these games
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>>158711868
>triggered
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>>158710752
Loved Umineko's OST aside from the silly wubstep tracks. Granted, they added a lot of hype to some of the battle/murder scenes, but they are kind of a headache to listen to, in large part thanks to the overabundance of dynamic compression.
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>>158711868
>we've had a constant "Japanese VNs" in the OP instead of specifying English-translated ones, which invites a ton of retards and /jp/ rejects to start posting massive amounts of untranslated shit here constantly.
Lemme tell you my man, no JOP gives a fuck about what the OP says, I don't get why so many people think anyone cares about it. It makes no difference.
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>>158712202
I'm not talking about the people dedicated to discussing untranslated VNs in the general for translated VNs. They're just retarded, and they're going to stay retarded no matter what. I'm talking about the people who come by thinking that it's okay to do that here through no fault of their own, because the OP itself doesn't specify.

It's one of a few things, like e-celeb circlejerks and discord posting instead of valid discussion, that has to change because it's stupid bullshit. There's literally a global rule defining this, and everyone just pretends it doesn't exist.
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>>158712361
>like e-celeb circlejerks and discord posting instead of valid discussion,

Until this changes no one is going to give a fuck, until all this shit goes away this place will always be a shitting ground for testing new bait posts.
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>>158712468
This. I use Discord and r/visualnovels for serious discussion.
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>>158712468
Well, the votes are favoring no more e-celeb shitposts about 2-1. Next edition should include a note about it. Then it'll be a rule at least.
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>>158712557
I don't see why this can't also be a valid place.

There's a fucking reason I enjoy being anonymous, and it's not to shitpost.
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>>158712557
>r/visualnovels for serious discussion
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>>158712361
So we 'come by', do we? That sort of implies we've never been here at all. Maybe we've been here all along, and have only recently begun playing untranslated? Why should we be forced to go to a dead thread on a dying board?
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>>158712607
Just include the notice that /moe/ used.

>No meta discussion of e-celebs is allowed.
>No flaming, bullying, EOP/JOP shitposting, or general negativity allowed. Discussion of Japanese language learning belongs in either the Daily Japanese Thread in /a/ or in /int/.
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>>158712625
For as much as I dislike everything about reddit culture, moderation is needed for japanese culture discussion because it attracts so many autist and retards. It get's to the point where self moderation is no longer possible and you need adults to take care of the kids.
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>>158712745
>get's
doing it to my own post and beating the crowd
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What's the 9/11 Never forget of VN?
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>>158712745
Reddit goes too far the other way, though. Everyone there is like on the frequency there or something, because there's only one kind of mindset allowed.
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>>158712607
>>158712734
Yeah, good luck with that. Shitposters have been making threads early just to fuck with the OP for years. And they'l keep doing it because no one reports them.
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>>158712850
Remember 11
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>>158712850
Kakyuusei 2 (tamaki)
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>>158712859
That is why I spend my time on the /r/vn discord and not the reddit it self.
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>>158712714
>Why should we be forced to go to a dead thread on a dying board?

Again with this tired fucking argument.

It wouldn't be as slow of a thread if everyone who wanted to talk about untranslated shit WENT THERE TO DO IT. This thread would be the one taking the activity hit.

>>158712745
Usually, yeah. And it doesn't fucking help that I keep getting warned for reporting posts that use untranslated images, so apparently I need to just not report things unless they clearly break rules.

The mods don't even know the board rules. It makes no fucking sense.
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>>158712850
CHOMP
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>>158712859
Nah man, I'm no redditfag but I think r/visualnovels is pretty decent when it comes to not being a circlejerk.
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>>158712894
I've reported a few OPs before. I've gotten banned recently though for reporting blatant shitposting, so I'm done with that shit.

The moderation in /vg/ is extremely inconsistent.
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>>158712926
>reporting untranslated images

Honestly that is pretty silly and if you are so worried about the rules reddit really might be the place for you, not even meming.
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>>158712910
>Heroine with Sexual Experience
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>>158712917
What is discord even like? What do they talk about? I've never used one desu
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>>158713068
It's literally a prettied up IM
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>>158713004
Honestly, 100% not trolling, go to /r/visualnovels

>>158713068
It's chill, some decent discussion about vns, much less shit posting much less eceleb discussion
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It is everyone's interests to encourage EOPs to learn Japanese, because that means more fan translations down the line.
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>>158713195
>>158713195
>>158713195
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