/cfog/ - Classic Fallout (& New Vegas) General

first for Enclave a shit

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Second for best waifu

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>>158565732
third for bane?

>>158565841
>tfw no psychoanalytic cardiac-dampening sneaky stealth gf

>>158566103
Figured while I had the page open on the wiki I'd look for cool trivia about the suit (which is genuinely my favourite armor in the game), only to find literally nothing of interest. What a shame.

>>158565841
>>158566103
>>>/fog/

>>158565841
Your waifu is a degenerate whore.

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>>158565841
this is man's country. no waifus allowed. raifus only.

>Stealth Suit Mk 2
Protective, cares for you
>Maria
Pure, will kill for you
>Esther
Big girl, for nukes
>Tandi
President of the NCR, may or may not have been raped by raiders
>FRANK HORRIGAN
Loyal Patriot, definitely not raped by raiders

So is this the official list of /cfog/ approved waifus?

>>158568148
>>Stealth Suit Mk 2
She's a whore that'll happily let anyone use her.

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Post your Courier!

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>>158566616
>>158568428
*grabs you by the throat*

>>158568148
>totally approved tier
Stealth Suit Mk 2
Maria
Tandi
Frank Horrigan

>sparks debates tier
Cass
ED-E

>occasionally mentioned and not disallowed tier
Esther apparently

>/fog/ tier
Veronica
All companion mods

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>>158569443
>*grabs you by the throat*
>spamming waifushit on this thread

>>158569347
What even is this?

>>158569347
>Ave, get out of here stalker

>>158569347
Why do you have a 2-tone leg?

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>>158569347
>tfw no good face system like skyrim

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>>158569347
Reposting this that some kind draw anon made for me.

Hats off to you sir, wherever you are.

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Any profligates here? I wanna kick your ass.

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>>158571065
Bring it on fuckboi :^)

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>>158571065
come and get it sissy skirt boy

>>158571641
Why did the power armor have to be the only good part of 4?

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>>158572024
because it was easy to make it good but harder to make the rest better than nv. speaking of power armor in fallout 4, do you think double power armor would be cool? like power armor in power armor.

>>158572024
There needed to be something going for it, Power Armor and shooting shit are the only reasons I can play Fallout 4.

What I don't get is why they barely have any different types of Power Armor, there's only like 5.

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>>158572369
>tfw T-60 would be completely lore-friendly if only Bethesda didn't push their "EVERYTHING IS PRE-WAR" agenda down everything's throat

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>>158571119
Give me cause, Profligate

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>>158572245
It's not a good idea.

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>>158572245
>like power armor in power armor
no that's stupid

>>158570060
That is my courier!

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>>158572836
its stupidly good more like it. gurren laggan up in this bitch.

>>158573056
Anime is retarded and so are you.

So first time in a fallout general, is fallout online actually worth playing?

I've never played fallout 1 or 2 before.

>>158573181
yeah i do admit i like retarded stuff. were you expecting me to be embarrassed or ashamed?

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>>158573347
you should play 1 and 2 before online. they are very good games.

online is pretty fun if you have friends to play with and you know how the game works.

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>>158572494
>they didn't make it a bos only armor thats an upgrade to the t-45s found in DC
>this is despite the fact we hear bos scribes in the citadel talking about having to upgrade their power armors and could have done so with salvaged enclave tech
>its a 'prototype' but is found all over bawstun and every bos member has a full set

>>158568148
>No mention of my darling annabelle

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>>158575240
>original T-51b has a helmet that evokes an image of a medieval knight
>Enclave APA has a really cool and evil look to it, half-insect, half-demonic goat
>T-45d and T-60 have round pig nose
uh okay

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>>158571065

So, Caesar giving orders from beyond the grave?

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>>158575461
>T-45d and T-60 have round pig nose
I mean I see it but thats more true about porkfire

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>>158570103

>>158575623
>They discontinued the duraframe eyebots for this shit
enclave is retarded

>>158575623
You know, the funny thing is, I don't mind Hellfire all that much. It looks like an evil beast, I think it's the small vision ports. I also don't mind FO3 version of APA, I think they look okay. T-45d pisses me off, though.

>>158575787
It may look ugly but it's the most protective power armor to date.

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>>158575545
Legatus Lanius is on the march. When he arrives, the real slaughter will begin.

>>158576085
>Lanius just bludgeoning NCR grunts to death with the blunt end of Blade of the East because they aren't worthy of receiving the sharp end
wtf I love Legion now

>>158575787
I'm still triggered that they exchanged fucking drones for something that they already fucking have. Beth logic at its best.

>>158576435
>Beth logic at its best.
You mean Obsidian?

>>158576435
>Beth logic
um

>>158576560
>>158576664
hellfire armor is a f3 thing

>>158576834
Yes, and the log that mentions it being developed in favor of "duraframe eyebots" is a New Vegas thing.

>>158576834
But the whole "Enclave discarded the eyebots for Hellfire armor" is in NV. It's part of the Lonesome Road DLC.

You did play New Vegas, right?

This reminds me, what exactly is the difference between the duraframe eyebots and the Fallout 3 eyebots? Or are they the same thing? It's been a while.

>>158576834
>>158576940
>>158576950
You know, this would actually make sense if NV did take place before Fallout 3, like originally intended.

>>158576940
>>158576950
>being forced into a corner by Bethesda's retardation is Obsidian fault

there's only so much you can do to try an explain todd's logic.

>>158577098
duraframe ones are like ED-E
more advanced and tougher versions of the normal ones

there may have been something about personality modules

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>>158577183
>le bethesda boogeyman xD

>>158577183
There's like a thousand reasons to hate on Bethesda, no need to make up a fictional one.

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>>158577295
>>158577401
>>>/fog/
go away todd

>>158577112
How so?

ED-E is in the Mojave essentially because Autumn had the Duraframe project discarded in favor of the Hellfire project.

ED-E was sent from Adams AFB, which means he probably was sent away from Washington during the events of Fallout 3.

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>>158577645
Good boy

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>>158577691
Wait
Is your argument seriously
"A Fallout 3 character made a bad decision in New Vegas, this is Bethesda's fault"

>>158577893
not him, but I don't know what the argument is even about and I've been reading the whole comment chain

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>>158569347

>>158578660
>I don't know what the argument is even about
War without end.

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?

>>158575461
With angry eyebrows

>O

>>158577295
>>158577401
Just looked in on this conversation, and honestly, he does have a point, but not for the example he has given.

There are plenty of stupid shit in NV which is a thing because Bethesda has made it so. The layout of vaults, caps being a thing again, t45 power armor etc

>>158579102
>horse-faced humanoid robot waifu with green hair
do you people really play the whole game like that

>>158579257
Eh, they mostly elevated it with their writing. Like, I like that NCR money exists but since it's Mojave and since they got their silver (?) mines raided by BoS it's not exactly a popular currency.

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>>158570103
What would be better, Stalker style game in New Vegas setting, or vice versa?

>NV in Stalker setting
>interaction focused slav merc sandbox rp
>settlements are rarer and more militarized, but lots of quest givers and conversation trees
>anomalies and mutants exist, are not super dangerous to the well traveled
>labs are less dangerous but more common and have lots of lore
>less faction combat, more diplomacy and subterfuge
>respawning pseudodog companion
>only vodka

>Stalker in NV setting
>combat focused wild west sandbox shooter
>settlements more common but more hostile to outsiders (e.g. BoS shoots on sight unless you have an invitation)
>shooting and scavenging, lots of broken weapons and wandering enemies, more spontaneous faction combat
>strange monsters roam around and attack, often in packs, anyone can get killed
>explore monster-filled vaults to collect data from their experiments for interested parties
>join a faction and conquer the wasteland while pursuing personal goals
>squat around campfire with other drifters, but largely adventure alone
>all kinds of booze

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Hey /cfog/,should i play Ressurection?

>>158579257
What's wrong with the T-45? It was initially a Van Buren concept.

>>158579778
this
>prewar
>looks like a primitive early model
the only fault was the entire brotherhood had them with little explanation

>>158579656
Neither, really.

I'm also not sure why you consider Stalker mutants more dangerous. I mean sure, an overleveled with all DLCs Courier fears nothing, but a early-mid level Courier runs into a Deathclaw and he's fucked. The thing is crazy fast (especially if it's a mommy), has iron skin and kills him in one swipe. And they are pack animals. Stalker has what, pseudogiants? They're dumb and slow.

>>158579916
The explanation was they found a huge supply of them when they took over The Pentagon.

>>158579778
Was it described in VB as "crappy-looking with huge pauldrons"?

>>158580059
I don't know, I think they never even designed it.

I don't think the model is that bad-looking, after all it's supposed to be one of the first power armors before the T-51b entered service.

>>158580205
>I don't think the model is that bad-looking
Well, I do, that's pretty much my main beef with it, really.

>>158579926
Pseudogiants are pretty easy unless you're out of ammo or stuck in a phone booth with one, though, kind of like fighting a Super Mutant who only has a melee weapon. A better comparison would be the Chimera, which is also fast, aggressive, and deadly (but only shows up in one game).

Also, when I said well traveled, I meant high level NPCs and Couriers, so we actually agree on that part. There's more of a difference between a high level, all DLCs Courier and an early-mid Courier than an endgame Stalker and an early-mid Stalker, so I was just trying to reflect that. Didn't mean to put down the lethality of Fallout monsters.

>>158579689
i never tried it, story sounds dumb. but the creators spend 10 years making it sooo....i guess why not give it a shot.

>>158581634
I think the deal is that Fallout monsters are a great deal more lethal, but Fallout setting gives you access to some extremely potent futuristic toys to go toe-to-toe with them. Stalker is more down-to-earth in that regard, thought the beta did have a minigun...

>Bozar is a state-of-the-art full-auto sniper rifle machinegun thingy, crafted with unrivaled precision
>Is less accurate than a modded minigun
>Less DPS as well, not to mention no AP effect on default ammo

>>158581897
That's fair. Aside from the few mind-melting assholes that pop up, it's safe to say the monsters are more designed for a somewhat above average dude with a surplus military rifle and a pocket full of old sausage as opposed to a regenerating cyborg in power armor with a plasma rifle who can slow down time to aim shots to the face.

>>158579527
>People don't understand transhumanism
I'd gladly be a brain in a jar in a robot body if I could.

>>158584630
Human bodies are actually pretty well designed, self-repairing machines. Just need to iron out some quirks like aging and illnesses and we're done. Thought Fallout isn't really biopunk.

>>158584630
Being a robobrain is pleb tier, cybernetics is where it's at

>>158584630
>>158584858
>>158586886
> cybernetics
> not genegeneering
Have fun breaking and becoming obsolete in a year, fuccbois.

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>>158587359
you can't upgrade forever

>>158587639
You can keep breaking and needing extensive maintenance forever, though. Human body is quite literally constantly self-repairing, unlike any metal.

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>>158588012
Organic armor when?

i really feel for Obsidian, i know this was said 10000 times but they did made best out of shitty Geybryo and actually made viable Fallout game (even if its open world FPS),and something resembling an real RPG.
People talk about FONV even today, mod community is strong ,fans make projects that could be compared to base FO3 game(or better), yet Beth took all the glory, they have one cult fallout game(fonv),they took all the praise and Obsi just got flack(press called it unoptimised and buggy, yet main fault was in power of consoles).

I bet FONV will be rembered much longer than FO4(i just cant forgive Beth that they dared to rape this IP so hard, im not Amerifat but Fallout is part of USA gaming legacy, same as Star Wars(in movie world),if not that big).
I reinstalled FO4 maybe 5 times, always believeing it was my fault, i kinda went wrong way, chosed wrong build/wrong side, its a long game, it will pick up the pace... and i deleted it 5 times(lvl 20 is breaking point for me, no matter what way i tried).
Worst part is, i wasnt even hyped for the game(honestly,when i saw promo settlement building i just crossed the game) so i had low expectations and even with that mindset i was heavily disapointed. Its a fucking Fallout, fuck sake, i would be honestly more hyped by real F3 by Obsidian(no gamebryo or fps, let them chose best way game should be developed) than for fucking HL3 at this point.
poor thing got raped 4 times:BOS,that ps2 birdperspectiive shooter by BI ,FO3 and lastly FO4.

how the fuck do i make a calberx patch for mil's ak

>>158579527
>do you people really play the whole game like that

You gotta switch things up sometimes, you know?

>>158579689

Yes. It starts off kind of slow, but it gets better and better once you reach Sedit.

>>158588012
>it's better to require a complex mixture of fats, proteins and vitamins in order to self-repair over the course of days, weeks or months than it is to be repaired in hours using that rare, mystical substance known as "steel"

That's not even getting into the subject of crippling, permanent injuries or self-repairing machines.

>>158575623
SO UGLY. WTF MAN.

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>tfw Vault 11 spooks me to the point where one of the traps almost killed me irl because it almost gave me a heart attack
I swear, every vault makes me feel scared, but 11 takes it to a whole new level.
>tfw you'll never be sacrificed for a nice and quick death

>>158580039
Gee, aint that convenient?

>>158595017
At least it makes sense, unlike a lot of other shit Bethesda does.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNxNmoHlVM

>>158596103
Fuck off degenerate

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Anyone know what ever happened to Classic MP5 guy?

>>158597853
Haven't seen them post in a while

>>158571641
>>158565841
>posting non-vegas, non 1-2 fallout shit

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>>158598686
You're half wrong

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>>158598136
I know I'm worried

>>158599718
Maybe he escaped this place

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I've been busy but I put some time in.

I have yet to reach Novac yet I've already tossed more than 1000 regular throwing knives.

People with guns prove trouble for me. Even vipers are taking me out.

Landed some sick long range throws with the spears though.

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Seriously. Someone needs to nail this asshole or SOMETHING. This smug shit goes on conferences and talks about how smart he is and how it's soooooo clever to keep the modern Fallouts "Simple" and "Not cross reference, that's for co-writers"

seriously what the fuck, how can one person be so goddamn stupid.

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>>158602607
Expand your mind.

>>158598686
>tfw bethesda made a better APA model than obsidan did
feelsgoodman

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>>158605537

>>158605537
BUT THEN I'M USING A GUN. You gotta throw with ya arm man.

>>158603761
They need to either fire, promote him, or move him horizontally through the company, because his story direction since fallout 3 has been Bethesda's biggest weakness.

It amazes me he's in the position that he's in. He started his career as a video game reviewer while going to college for something totally unrelated to writing. He gave the developers of the Thief series a good review and they gave a job in return, then he moved on to Bethesda and did the Dark Brotherhood quest for Oblivion. It was a polished turd in a dump of a game. Fallout 3's story was garbage. Skyrim's story was garbage. Fallout 4's story was garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi51-wjcwp8

There he is talking at some conference. I was floored by how dumb a talk it was. The moment he compared the institute to whitey bulger like it was something profound I nearly choked I laughed so hard.

>>158606065
Guy
Sixty spears a second
Or you could use the shotgun that shoots 200 assorted spears and knives a second

>>158606065
You still using a gun!

I can't be a sneaky tribal hunter if i'm using a gun.

Gotta do it like the injuns back in the pre war days.

>>158606065
>>158607343
Just think of it like an Atlatl and you'll be fine.

>>158606065
Easy work around: throw the gun

>>158606065
What about a grenade that explodes into a bunch of knives

>>158608178
Most grenades explode into a bunch of knives. It's called shrapnel.

>>158608330
I actually did think about this, but then I went ahead and shitposted anyway.

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>>158607834
>>158607934

No guns.
No atlatl.
Just you and your throwing arm!

>>158608178
Injuns don't play with no explosives.

>>158607054
> The moment he compared the institute to whitey bulger like it was something profound
As much as I dislike Emil, I didn't get that impression at all when he was talking.

>>158608934
You weren't listening, not to offend, but he very clearly states that the game's story, at its heart, is the projection of a struggle between himself and the omnipotent presence of whitey bulger("write what you know"). He reveals that the Institute "is whitey bugler", which to me is a vague comparison at best. A more direct comparison would be between Bulger and Kelogg.

>>158610339
No, what I mean was that he was supposedly speaking like it was so profound or w/e.

HE actually just seemed more like
"yeah so, this is what Based it on"

>>158611786
Ah, I gotcha. I guess I was focusing more on the content of his talk rather than the tone, but insofar as the tone is concerned, he definitely doesn't seem too enthusiastic about it. In fact he seems very anxious.

>>158591054
It really is such a shame. I was replaying Fallout 1 the other day and the amount of options is so fantastic. You can finish the game without killing anything, you can permanently fuck your stats, you have so many dialogue options.

The world is realistic within its own boundaries, communities have food and water and protection and are suitably isolated.

Fallout 4 has a lot of great concepts that could work on theory, but their execution is so abysmal that it directly discredits the creators. Building a settlement has the potential to be a very "Fallout" thing - selecting a good location, recruiting people to come to the town, finding a way to generate an economy, etc. Include some moral choices - creating a weapons mill lead to tougher bandits if you sell to everyone, or you can take a hit to profits and only sell to nice settlements. Exclude some settlements that don't offer any benefits and have their people leave that place, maybe even joining yours. There is a lot of potential in settlement building alone, but Fallout 4 is effectively The Sims instead and I couldn't think of a lazier implementation.

I could write an entire essay on the decline of the Fallout series, unfortunately it's been slowly downhill since the first sequel, but goddamn if 3 & 4 didn't plunge it right off a cliff

>>158607054
This guy has no right to be talking about themes when he literally missed the themes of the previous Fallout games

>>158607054
>minimal design documents after Fallout 3
Ya don't fuckin say

What are your three main weapons?
Long Range, Short Range, Melee

>>158615794
A gun.
A gun.
A gun.

>>158615794
>modded in wattz
>multiplas
>paladin toaster

>>158615794
AER14
Plasma Defender
Ballistic Fist

>>158615794
>holorifle
>modded bolt-action shotgun
>ballistic fist

>>158615794
YCS, Cleansing Flame, Oh, Baby!

>>158615597
It's very strange to me what he said at the end about killing elder maxon and taking over the bos. It's such an important moment in the game, so why did it take till after recording dialogue and playing the game to realize that the faction would not be welcoming to your actions of killing a him in favor of a synth? He's the lead writer and the properties and behaviors of that faction should have been clear enough for him to know that taking over the bos in that way would not have made sense. That's just incompetent.

>>158615794
>Christine's sniper
>ALSID
>Gehenna

>>158615794
>Battle Rifle
>ALSID/Lil Devil/Maria
>depends what I'm doing, usually some sort of Heavy or special weapon, or a machine gun

>>158616813
I didn't finish it, I got angry and distracted. I'll have to finish it after work, but Fallout 4 is full of retarded shit and how they didn't look at their end product and see that it's a narrative mess is beyond me.

>>158603761
Ill take anyone over Pete "supermutants are ridiculous so fuck continuity" Hines

>>158616813
> Anonymous 10/27/16(Thu)21:53:33 No.158616813▶>>158618183

>>158615597
It's very strange to me what he said at the end about killing elder maxon and taking over the bos. It's such an important moment in the game, so why did it take till after recording dialogue and playing the game to realize that the faction would not be welcoming to your actions of killing a him in favor of a synth? He's the lead writer and the properties and behaviors of that faction should have been clear enough for him to know that taking over the bos in that way would not have made sense. That's just incompetent.
You do know that "lead writer" doesn't mean that he "Writes the whole game" right?

Sawyer was the lead writer on New Vegas, but theres tons of major shit about the MQ he had zero hand in.

Lead writer just means "people make shit, he looks it over and goes yeah or nah"

individual quests are designed and written by the people who program that quest.

Not to mention Sawyer has straight up admitted that both the Legion and New Vegas(the city) are implausible because he didn't notice how short of a time span he gave for their creation until it was so late in the development that it couldn't be changed.

Sawyer, the lead writer for New Vegas, didn't know how long of a time frame the other writers had given fro major plot elements abut the formation of one of the major factions, and the main city of the game.

As shitty as BEthesda is, its people making remarks like these that make me wonder if anyone has any idea how game development actually works, or if they are just putting all the blame on the easiest target out of ignorance.

>>158618812
Dont know how that quote got so fucked up.

was meant as a response for
>>158616813
only

>>158615794
>that gun
>doubled barreled shotgun
>my bare hands

>>158619497
Which gun?

>>158619719
the unique 5.56mm pistol that you can buy in Novac.

>>158619903
Oh, that gun. What's it called again?

>>158620093
That Gun

>>158620350
I know it's that gun, I'm asking what it's called.

>>158620405
It's called That Gun

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>>158620682
this gun?

>>158620682
If you don't know the name, don't be afraid to admit it. I won't judge you for it. You've already given enough information for me to get it.

>>158620713
No, That Gun

>>158620749
I do know the name, it's That Gun

>>158621000
Well if you know the name, why can't you tell me already?

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>>158620749
Just to be clear, he means this gun

>>158621228
This machine depicted?

>>158621281
No no, This Machine is something different. I'm talking about That Gun.

>>158621484
Then what's this machine in the image?

>>158621505
That Gun.

>>158621619
Well, if you're going to insist on me calling it that gun, what's that gun in the image?

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>>158621619
Right, this gun, not that machine

>>158621868
See, >>158621887 has it.
This gun is That Gun, and that machine is not This Machine.

>>158605537
Whee can I get that I need it!!!

but what I wanna know is who's on first!

>>158622293
What i wanna know is where's the caveman?!

>>158622293

That's the man's name.

>>158622996
The Mysterious Stranger?!

>>158622101

Huh, that's lucky.

>>158623108
What? That Gun isn't Lucky at all, Lucky is a different one.

Knock-Knock.

>>158582607
I was disappointed too, anon. It was my favourite gun in fo2.
But i'm still using it, that sound of fallen shells.

>>158569347
Hoover Dam soon, fellow Courier!

>>158582607

It's like how the Dead Money BAR has one of the most unfortunate spreads in the game even though the actual BAR was quite accurate and more commonly used on a bipod than held at the hip as originally designed.

>>158576085
>styled like an old battle painting

I love it

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>>158584630
>>158586886
>>158587359
>>158588012
Transhumanism is fake and gay. Accelerationism isn't real. Dresden Codak is a shit webcomic.

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>>158615794
Christine's rifle
Medicine stick
Bozar

>>158579527
Frankly it makes more sense considering that Crimson Caravan has an arguably greater presence in New Vegas than NCR does, and that House established any real sense of economy in NV when caps were the currency of the land, and that the Strip is the economic center of the entire region.

>>158615794

Dynamite
Dynamite
Fist

>>158595017
I mean

yes?

But it still makes sense that they'd be in the Pentagon as opposed to pretty much anywhere else. That's kind of like saying that it's "convenient" that Hoover Dam just happens to be in between the NCR and the Legion in NV.

>>158624817

Also Vegas had at least one Sunset Sarsaparilla bottling plant complete with functioning cap press, whereas Shady Sands may not have.

>>158615794
>hunting rifle
>incendiary grenades
>ripper

>>158618812
>>158618812
>Lead writer just means "people make shit, he looks it over and goes yeah or nah"
> remarks like these that make me wonder if anyone has any idea how game development actually works

You do know that the lead writer in many gaming projects has a greater role than being just a yes/no man right? And if you watched his talk you'd see how much more involved the lead writer role was.

Also, there's no comparison between the timeline oversight and the BOS oversight. Emil was clearly aware of the plot point of saving paladin danse and taking over the bos before dialogue was recorded. The conflict between saving the synth and culture of BOS faction should have been obvious any time after he story boarded the main plot where the disposition of the BOS towards synths would have been known.

>>158584630
It's not so much aversion to being in a robot body, it's to being in that particular robot body.

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>>158569347
Also my gunfu

>>158596103
this image and all of its variations always make me fucking diamonds

>>158622292
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40972/?

>>158625141
Understandable. Aesthetics, while a moral imperative, are ultimately subjective.

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>>158576085

How does the Legion Military function exactly?

What they lack in technology they make up for in sheer numbers but i find it hard to believe that a bunch of guys wearing football armor with spears and machetes can stand up to an army with firearms.

What is the Legions stance on firearms and who gets to use them?

pic related.

>>158615794
Sniper Rifle/Survivalist's Rifle
Survivalist's Rifle/A Light Shining in Darkness
Old Glory

I like unique weapons. And I typically use whatever I have ammo for.

>>158622101
Im gonna fucking kill myself

just started playing new vegas. This is a lot of fun.

>>158565910
Bane?

Onix ENB a shit

>>158615794
AMR
Medicine Stick
Superheated Saturnite Fist

>>158625634
>but i find it hard to believe that a bunch of guys wearing football armor with spears and machetes can stand up to an army with firearms
Guerrilla tactics are surprisingly effective with melee weapons against firearm wielding forces. The Boxers did it early on during the Boxer War and many of the early colonial revolts were successful doing it as well. Plus, contrary to popular belief, the Legion uses firearms in conventional battles which you see during Hoover Dam.

>>158623387
That gun has the highest crit rate of any gun, I'd say that's pretty lucky

>>158627434
They are on par with lucky.

>>158627538
Yeah. I said it's pretty lucky. you'll be getting crits all the time

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What do I need to know starting Fallout 2 for the first time?
Already have the unofficial patch and cut content.

>>158624137
Well, on other hand it means that when you have 10 Str and 100 Guns, minigun is actually quite damn accurate for a ridiculous bullet hose that shoots 20-30 rounds per second. And I love it. I love it so much.

>>158629071
have you finished fo1 in a day?

>>158630106
I did, yes.
Took the Master on with my regular Plasma Rifle in single combat.
No assistance.

Also, absolutely every town died because I slacked off for so long leveling up.
It was pretty fun.

>>158630209
I actually want to replay fo2 after vegas, I barely remember that game.
You can steal bozar fairly early at ncr market and wreck anything with it till the end.

>>158630759
Sick, who has it/where is it?

I plan on leveling up Steal, since it's so useful for getting kitted out early on.

>>158630808
Guys guarding some manlet trader.

>>158630808
Buster's guards.

>>158630863
Thank you.

It's pretty disappointing that we don't get the mutant manlets anymore.
It's probably a Gamebryo thing, but I assume they could just make ugly, killable children to have midgets back in the Fallout Universe.

>>158630953
I never thought of those guys as mutants in Fallout sense. Just, you know, vertically challenged little people.

>>158631032
I know I've read somewhere that them being midgets and them being so common is directly due to mutation via radiation.

I could be wrong, but I'm 99% sure that's correct.

i've been gone for a long time. when did this split happen?

>>158627284
>the Legion uses firearms in conventional battles which you see during Hoover Dam
And with every assassin squad they send after you...

>>158632870
And even every other recruit has some gun. Cowboy repeaters, Hi-Powers, .357 magnums, 9mm SMG occasionally. Nothing fancy, and I think the implication is that they had to take those in battle, they aren't issued firearms. Vulpes' squad has cowboy repeaters on each member, which are pretty solid guns for the time you encounter them.

Hm, actually, given the looter nature of the Legion I'm surprized they don't use NCR Service Rifles. Maybe they're unreliable in-setting, kind of like early Vietnam M-16s were (yes, I know, powder change fucked them over), but there's no mention of that in lore.

>>158626637
And the best part is that it won't stop being fun after one playthrough, as thanks to the quests and certain game content / mechanisms different builds really give you different experiences.

>>158625634
they are a stupid faction in a badly written game

>>158634409
the sheer lack of content and polish will make it stop being fun long before the first playthrough is over

>>158634487
>>158634592
here come beth boi

>>158630953
> It's pretty disappointing that we don't get the mutant manlets anymore.
Maybe that's because they're ridiculous, what's with them supposed to be actual fucking dwarves?

>>158636613
What?

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>>158625350
> all of its variations
Even this one?

>>158636636
They were supposed to be dwarves, with beards and stockiness and other such utter ridiculousness. And they weren't people with dwarfism, either (I can't remember a single one of those actually existing in the Fallout setting as a character), it was an entirely separate thing. I suppose it was a nineties thing.

>>158636951
>And they weren't people with dwarfism
It's funny because they are.
They're midgets/dwarfs because of radiation induced mutations.

>>158637090
You don't get it. It's precisely the point that they weren't just midgets, it was supposed to be an entirely separate thing.

>>158615794
Anti-materiel rifle.
Bozar.
Katana. :^)

>>158615794
>This Machine
>Hunting Shotgun
>.45 Auto Pistol

>>158615794
la lounge carabine (reversed pickpocketed for it, i love sterling too much to savagely kill him), lucky, and oh, baby!

>>158638917
> i love sterling too much to savagely kill him
This made me check Sterling's stats. The man has 10 CHA. Figures.

>no option to complete birds of a feather in favor of the legion

>>158640446
Mods fix it

>>158615794
>This Machine
>10mm Submachine Gun
>Machete gladius

>>158625634
>i find it hard to believe that a bunch of guys wearing football armor with spears and machetes can stand up to an army with firearms.

You not every military engagement is a Zulu-style clash of armies, right?

One of the Legion's biggest advantages is that their forces are extremely mobile and have a light logistical chain, since their forces can easily live off of the land. The NCR, meanwhile, is choked by bureaucracy and the need for solid supply chains, which means they're easy to spot anywhere they set up camp (with the exception of the rangers).

Many Legion victories are probably similar to the attack on Ranger Station Charlie: NCR soldiers out in the open, minding their own business, when they're suddenly surprised by stealthy Legion attackers.

>>158637176

Can you cite that?

Getting CTD on game load, but it was working fine yesterday. I can't see any conflicts either, any ideas?

http://pastebin.com/kZKsgGUk

>>158646846
you running windows 10

people have been having issues with it because of driver issues

>>158646972
Huh. I'd been playing it fine for about a week though, and now it won't even load a save. What changed?

>>158647103
some driver update breaks shit

I don't know the specifics because I'm not running 10

>>158647232
Haven't had any driver updates since it was working.

>>158645829
There's severe lack of link to fallout bible.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf

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>>158633694
>>158645734
>>158625634
>>158627284

From what I know, all legionarries start as recruits. They are given bad armor and machetes and sent on skirmishes and raids. This is suppose to teach you how to adapt to the environment, hence the whole "tech makes you weak thing". After that you get promoted based on merit and experience. The higher you go up the chain the better weapons you get. The point is to make them reach for it rather than have it handed to them.

As for big battles, they send the troops out in waves. First the recruits with machetes many don't survive, but the ones that do are the strongest and they move up the ladder. The next wave is the primes, they get better guns but still have machetes and are going to be doing the core of the fighting. Finally you get the veterans, these guys have killed many and are hard motherfuckers they get submachine guns, anti material rifles ect. They are the final wave that sends the tired enemy packing.

Everyone who lives moves up and the new slaves they capture after the battle fill the gaps of the dead. This process has a lot of casualties, but that is the point to make hard strong people that could survive in a post apocalyptic world. It is also why they take slaves and why they force women to bear children. They need a lot of bodies.

>>158650865
Can slaves become more than just slaves?
Can they only join the military or can they be returned to living a normal life like farming etc.

jsawyer or project nevada rebalance?

also is there a mod that makes sneaking not so retarded

>>158653430

actually im just looking for mod opinions in general

any popular mods you guys think are overrated/ shit?

any recent mods that are great but wouldn't show up on older modlists?

>>158653430
both

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>>158652950
All capable males slaves are conscripted into the army. Female slaves are used as a support corps, caretakers, healers, midwives, and breeders.

But keep in mind that we only get to see the army, you can't visit Caesars land in the game.
But the wiki states, "Those living under the Legion's control are considered subjects, not members of the Legion proper. Lands under Caesar's protection enjoy stability and security far greater than lands outside its sphere of influence. Traders that have to cross NCR's territories with a guard contingent can safely travel on Legion trade routes alone, without any fear or danger of being attacked by raiders or other criminals. Caesar is considered a harsh, but benevolent lord by those who reside inside his domain but have not been enslaved into his army."

So I figure when they conquer new territory they enslave as many as they need to refill their ranks and let the rest go about their business. They might not even have slaves in their territory it might just be an army thing only.

>>158653430
JSawyer if you have taste.
PN if you want to meme on everything.

>>158653669
>any popular mods you guys think are overrated/ shit?
EVE. Never brought me anything but trouble.

>>158652950
farming IS the slaves life

basically the offer to their captives is death, slave labour or join the legion

>>158654658
>So I figure when they conquer new territory they enslave as many as they need to refill their ranks and let the rest go about their business

That sucks, I'd rather jsut be left alone then enslaved and then forced into army.
I wonder how all the legion fanboys in here would feel about getting caught in the middle of the night and enslaved.

>>158655140
>I'd rather jsut be left alone then enslaved

yeah, thats why they do it to you forcefully

>>158655140
Legion fanboys wouldn't care, because they believe the collective is more important than the individual.

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>>158626984
not sure if i'm actually using onix enb. but you are right about one thing, enb for new vegas sucks.
old world blues has amazing dialogue.

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>>158655727
You like to claim that the Nazis were leftists, right?

>>158655834
That line was actually thrown in after Avellone used it when describing the Big MT at a presentation.

>>158602607
How do you even decide which one to use?

>>158655834
The only enb that felt right to me is Nevada ENB. If you haven't, try it out.

>>158655834
>>158657840
> ENB
Enhanced National Borders?

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>>158657840
i usually like something a bit fruity for my enb. pic related.

>>158657183
whos you? i dont believe in left–right politics.

>>158658198
And people say Honest Hearts is the worst DLC!

What unexpected effects do stats have in NV? I remember being awed when F2 actually calculated the PC's weight based on STR, not to speak of that sex success formula, so I'm curious if that kind of thing resurfaced more recently.

>>158658340
How to spot a Yank in three seconds:
> i dont believe in left–right politics.

>>158658198
For me I wanted something that enhanced the desert feel. Every other enb just made it look like the complete opposite of a desert. If there was one that made the color grading look like the coloring of the classics I'd try it.

I just can't stand the default look anymore, even with the orange tint off.

>>158658373
I don't think New Vegas does anything like that.

>>158658496
ok? what does this have to do with fallout?

>>158658521
same. enb has spoiled me so much. i can't play bethesda games without them anymore.

Here's a mod I uncovered that you guys might want to have. It changes some super mutants to their classic style from FO2. I think for the most part the mod author based them on Lieutenant.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/xt8x2n4bln2ldsp/Classic+FO+SM.rar

VIDEO: https://youtu.be/VOZSFJQPaqg?t=5m24s

Try to ignore the guy talking, this is the only video I can find of the mod.

>>158653669
Not a gameplay changer but you can try "Even Better Loading Screen and Main Menu Replacer" to change the default main menu and loading screens.

>>158659004
>Elite Lily
>thought the mod will give Lily some cool FO1-style supermutant armour
>it literally replaces her model with Elite from Halo
I... uh.

>>158659456
I timestamped the link, but if it doesn't work, just go to 5:24.

I'm sorry you had to see that Halo thing.

>>158659859
It worked, I just wanted to see more. I was not ready. Some things aren't meant to be seen.

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>>158659859
I found this, which is part of the mod New Vegas Enhanced content mod. Does anyone know if a standalone version exists? The mod pack is full of far too much lore breaking tacticool shit, and all I want is the supermutants.

>>158663590
You found what, the image? I don't know what you are getting at.

>>158659004
This is just classic supermutants.

I don't use New Vegas Enhanced Content.

>>158663789
Apparently the mod pack, amongst other things, changes a lot of the super mutants to this, rather than having them all have that stupid, permanently angry look. I think Tabitha and other "hostile" mutants have the angry face though.

I was wondering if this part of the mod was available somewhere as a separate plugin.

>>158663972
Why not just take out the meshes and textures and paste them over vanilla muties? Should be a matter of two clicks.

>>158596103
>shill shitty series with off topic porn to try to draw attention
>spam non sequitur images straight from reddit on the occasions when you communicate
how is this shit not banned for advertising?

>>158663972
Oh okay, you should have clarified. Well I have no idea friend, but

>>158664170
This might be what you want.

The mod I linked is completely unrelated to the one you're using.

>>158664184
> /vg/
> autistic shitposters getting banned
Is this your first day here?

>>158664184
It's best not to give the autist any attention. At most you should just thumbs down his videos on youtube but even then that's probably still doing too much.

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>>158664314
no... it's not
>>158664460
forget that, I've never clicked on that shit besides hovering over embed and getting a preview thumbnail

>>158664460
You're better off just not even giving them a view.

>>158664567
> everyday
> not "every day"
This triggers me every single fucking time I see this picture. Why the hell do Yanks do that?

>>158664567
>No version with boone shooting legionaries and PTSD flashbacks in the final frame

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Is the Wasteland series worth playing?

I am considering giving up on Fallout altogether seeing as Bethesda is slowly destroying it.

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Shit, forgot something

now Re-upping


http://www.mediafire.com/file/s72a17jydmxbdft/OCXVRework2-Reupload.rar

>>158665396
What did you change beside the shape?

>>158665243
Have you played PoE already? If not, do so, and then hyped up for Tyranny.

>>158665489
the old one had the wrong legs and the tesla version didn't have the rest of the tesla coils or electrical arcing

>>158665243
Why? Fallout 1,2 and New Vegas still exists.

There are some people who are trying to translate Fallout of Nevada on NMA, and Project Brazil is almost finished. Fan modding for those games are still active and ran discussions are still active as well. We might not be getting new good official games but we still love Fallout. I don't know why you'd just jump ship.

As for Wasteland, I've never played it so I can't answer your question.

>>158665589
Yeah, I've played it and enjoyed it a lot. I am considering getting Tyranny, but I may get Wasteland 2 instead because I need my post-apocalyptic fix, preferably free of Bethesda's influence.

So who would win in a fight, Avellone or Sawyer? My money is on Avellone but I think it would be a close match.

>>158665589
>love Obsidian
>play PoE
>it's garbage
>Tyranny is more of the same, but with 100% more edge
Jesus christ, I'm starting to worry if they're too far gone by now.
Turn-based Obsidian RPGs when?

>>158666039
I think Avellone could bring brutality to the combat but Sawyer might outsmart Avellone somehow.

>>158664756
it's such an everyday phrase people just get used to it

>>158666125
That's what I'm thinking. I think Avellone's savagery would overcome Sawyer easily. But if the match was as even as I think it would be, Avellone would win by attrition.

About to restart New Vegas, should I deactivate shit like the caravan/classic/tribal packs?

>>158665589
im gonna wait for it to go on sale

>>158665243
just follow my rule anon: any fallout game set on the east coast isn't cannon due to the fact the setting and plots don't follow logic.

this>>158665814

>>158665926
> Wasteland 2
It's barely an RPG, being closer to JA, and the setting's too generic. I mean, it's better than F3/4, but it doesn't even begin to compare to NV.
>>158666094
I disliked that PoE tried too hard to recapture that Infinity Engine magic, but it was objectively great, especially compared to any other modern """"""rpg"""""". Obsidian could definitely do better, but PoE was anything but bad.

>>158666283
Just get JSawyer.esp.

>>158666283
The JESawyer mod places those items around the map so you won't have them in the beginning.

>>158666243
I think if Sawyer had prep time he could pull out some Home Alone style traps and tricks and fuck Avellone up. But if you just handed Avellone a bladed weapon and let him loose in Sawyer's apartment, it would be all over. I doubt Sawyer even owns a gun.

>>158666384
>>158666386
nice, thanks.

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>>158666431
>I doubt Sawyer even owns a gun.
He did buy some for Vegas, IIRC? He's a pro-gun liberal.

He could always remember his youth as a Legionnaire.

>>158666431
I see what you're saying but I think even if Sawyer had time to prepare it would only even out the playing field, but still be in Avellone's favor. I don't think Avellone can even feel pain. He is pain.

>>158665814
>Why?

Because I don't like being associated with Fallout 3/4, which are so bad it's embarrassing. I want a series that is consistently good.

>>158666561
The thing is, Sawyer knows that about Avellone too. I think he would build his defensive strategy around Avellone's character. Maybe invest in tranquilizers or something.

>>158666602
Neither do we, but that's why we are on /cfog/ and not /fog/. I get where you are coming from though. It's almost embarrassing in a way to be a fallout fan because if you met "one" out in the wild it's almost a guarantee that they'd be a fan of Bethesda's games. And to make it worse they'd probably tell you New Vegas is bad because it didn't feel like an apocalypse, or even worse, it didn't feel "Fallout-y" enough.

>>158666895
>we

>>158666806
Yeah, you're right. I didn't even think of that for some reason. But what if Avellone has no physical weaknesses and Sawyer knew that?

>>158666806
> implying tranqs would work on Avellone
And incendiary rounds would just make him more dangerous. The man could skull fuck a Lanius on a bad day.

>>158667112
I think Sawyer would run. Sawyer is pretty weedy, but he's not stupid. He would avoid a straight fight with Avellone at all costs. But if it came to a straight fight, Avellone would win.

>>158666895
fucking this

>>158667107
>>158667262
Agreed. Avellone would tear Sawyer apart. But also Sawyer would tear Todd apart.

>>158667462
Todd is a kitten compared to those two. He'd probably try to bribe them with millions of dollars before they strike the killing blow.

desu Avellone would just try to deliver an impressive monologue before striking Sawyer down, giving him enough time to grab a gun and shoot him

>>158667462
So Sawyer vs Avellone is basically Batman vs Superman.
In the end they team up to stop the evil manlet Todd from unleashing Pete Hines onto the world

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>>158667817
> Avellone convinces himself of mistakes in his motivations and talks himself into suicide without Sawyer needing to draw a gun
> or say a word
> or be present at all

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>>158666431
>>158666539

Sawyer owns guns

>>158667817
The problem here is you think a gun would kill Avellone.

>>158668123
This sounds like a likely scenario. Only Avellone could kill Avellone. Sawyer would be riding bikes the entire time.

>>158668123
>Avellone convinces himself of mistakes in his motivations and talks himself into suicide
That's kind of sad.
>Avellone sitting alone in an empty apartment
>he never managed to add his personal touch to the billion Kickstarter games he kinda-sorta worked on
>all the bridges between him and Obsidian are burnt
>Todd stopped replying to his calls after he suggested voiced protagonist wasn't a good idea
>the guys in Larian just want to create wacky jockey RPGs with talking chicken
>there's a gun on the table
P-please no, Chris... I liked your DLCs!

>>158668257
Based as fuck.

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>>158668257

>>158668421
I wonder if he actually bought it to help him work on Vegas. Talk about doing research!

>>158668383
> >all the bridges between him and Obsidian are burnt
Uh huh.
By the way, I never checked, but is Avellone in any way involved in Tranny?

>>158668383
>>the guys in Larian just want to create wacky jockey RPGs with talking chicken
Delete this. OS2 is already far better than nu-BG games from Obsidian.

>>158668515
Sawyer comes across as someone who gets very invested in their research for writing.

But I can also see him as being a gun owner just because guns are fun to have. Plus you have to jump through a lot of loops in CA to get them, so him casually buying them for writing purposes seems less likely.

>>158668538
According to him, he worked on it in some iteration, I remember him mentioning that in a pretty upset sounding twitter post (are twitter messages even posts? Tweets?) The "RPG where evil won" is one of those ideas that was boiling in Obs for a very long time, but no publisher picked it up. But he doesn't work with Obsidian now.

>>158668582
*Tell Anon that it's not even out yet and maybe it's too early to suck its dick.*

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>>158668807
>it's too early to suck its dick
No such things as too early to suck dick. Besides, you can tell a lot about the game just from the first act.

The raging overuse of asterisks is still upsetting me though.

bear

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Are there any mods that make stealth sniping more difficult?

>>158673189
suddenly cazadors

>>158673539
>doing thing
>suddenly cazadores
Story of my fucking life.

bull

>>158678980
shit

>>158678980
divide

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bear and bull

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>install MCM
>it works fine for a day
>come back
>it suddenly doesn't work

???

New Vegas just crashed 6 times in an hour

NEW RECORD

>>158679981
Such is life in New Vegas.

>>158679443
that's a lot of boones

>>158679443
>>158682064
Who would win 10 Boones or 3 Laniuses?