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Broc Flower, Xander Root, and Empty hypodermic needle edition

>Fallout 1 and 2
>Mods and Patches
http://pastebin.com/mtYCtDLV
>Fallout 1.5: Resurrection
http://resurrection.cz/en/

>Fallout: New Vegas
>General Information, Mod Recommendations, Run Ideas, etc:
http://pastebin.com/u29WKkGy
(Updates in progress)

>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository (Mods, Rips, etc):
http://pastebin.com/q5ryvSZc
>VGU (Rips):
http://pastebin.com/v1adFSwj
http://pastebin.com/S2eDehza

>Fallout Online
http://www.fonline-reloaded.net/
>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cfogad

Old World Thread >>158165852
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first for ncr
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>>158353049
First for doing a hardcore run what mods do you recommend
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Anyone have dragbodys armor pack 33? The mega link in the OP is dead.
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Choose

Beret, face wrap, standard or helmet?
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>>158354549
standard. although it always confused me as to why the ranger patrol armor was so thick but they never wore helmets.
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>>158354549
beret


post couriers
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>>158353049
>http://www.fonline-reloaded.net/


holy shit, hnnnnng
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>>158354549

Helmet

I really liked the original concept of the mask with the hat
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My kingdom for a laser revolver that doesn't suck.
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>>158355857
>hat and goggles
:^)
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redpill me on the legion, why are they not a bunch of larping fascist fuccbois?
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>pick up tons of dirty hypodermics everywhere
>actually stick them in your arm
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>>158357593
>pick up tons of bottles of dity water
>actually drink them
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>>158357519
They are.

But the ncr are still worse for residents of new vegas
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>>158357519
Because...?
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>>158357519
Because they rape little girls and place landmines under the corpses of their enemies.
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>>158357519
>fascist

you meant communist
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>>158357519
where to begin?

they treat all their members according to rank. they teach each member how to be fully independent but also how to work together in a group. they emphasize total group success or total group failure.

they allow technology but only if it is truly beneficial to them so they do not become dependent on them. they value skill and mastery above all else.

everyone has a chance to be promoted up the ladder, slaves included.

they are not allowed to indulge in vices such as gambling, alcohol, or chems. they believe these damage your body and hinder your potential.

they are very good at patrolling and defending their own people and only ask that you remain loyal and follow the rules.

they severely punish only the wicked to teach a lesson to all evildoers in the wasteland.

they enslave those that directly oppose or challenge their beliefs and are put to use helping the Legion so they can understand more about their ways and also finally redefine their own worth, not in the Legion's eyes but their own.

BUT they treat their women like shit. Especially their slaves.
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>>158358256
>legion is communist
>a army of slaves owned by a /pol/yp is a classless society in which private property is abolished and the m.o.p. are owned by the workers
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>>158358393
>BUT they treat their women like shit. Especially their slaves.

this kinda makes me want to do a slavebitch run, shit armor and spears n shit in survival.
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>>158357593
It's got antibiotics in it, who cares?
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>Be armed to the teeth with laser rilfes, pistols, machine guns, grenades etc
>Some fucking retard in football pads and a skirt comes waving a machete and you and chucking spears

Legion is shit.
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>>158358798
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37251/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40863/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62221/?
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you guys talk like legion enslaving people is so bad.

you read those Strip letters about people leaving their homes behind with a handful of cash to go gamble and ask their loved ones to send money after they have lost everything.

The Legion believes in hard work. That is why being a slave is an unofficial rank in the Legion. You are essentially reset to zero. Your previous life whether for good or bad does not matter. From that point on you have to prove your true worth in this world. You have to discover why you are alive and the reason you were born.

That is what Canyon Runner means when he says "To enslave them is to save them - to give them purpose, and virtue".
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>>158359259
The only reason you don't think thsat enslaving people is bad is because somehow you imagine that your neckbeard ass will be on top of the food chain.
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http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40139/?

>tacticool modern NCR overhaul
>there's a lore version
>it just changes the colors to match the vanilla NCR colors


Anyways, I'm starting to see a trend here. The more easier path to take, the more mods will be made. The more challenging or unconventional path will have almost no mods being made.
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>>158359447
well as he said, he'd have a chance to work his way out from being a neckbeard
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Maybe some day you will be able to mod F4 into an rpg.
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>>158359592
Jesus christ that's disgusting.

Why is it that modders are always so retarded when it comes to preserving lore. The NCR troops in the mojave, that are seriously struggling against legion raids and can't even afford to guard caravans.

Oh but according to this guy, they should all be decked out with advanced body armor, and helmets with optics and shit.

Ultra gay.
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>>158359728
i have dreams about doing a fangame remaking the entirety of Fallout 4's story and make it good. It will be linear as hell but if you do it right, then no one will fucking care. And of course there will be tons of dialogue options and different ways to solve quests.

Also there will be traits, skills, prostitutes, and tribals.

It will be a hub world but with a couple of very long and detailed sidequests.

Cities and important locations will have fixed locations but enemy AI will adapt.

You travel from location to location through the world map and random encounters happen the same way in the original games.
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>>158359851
it's the #1 most endorsed armor mod. Says a lot about the Fallout community, doesn't it?
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>>158360074
Christ that's depressing.
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>>158360074
Oh god, I just looked at the endorsements section.

>Great mod, the armor is really sharp, and still maintains the lore.
>still maintains the lore

Are these people actually this retarded?
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>>158358798
What would a female courier even want to support the legion for anyways?
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>>158360285
Maybe they get off, on abuse?
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>>158360345
eh
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>>158359958
if anyone else wants to know more i'll keep going, if not then just tell me to shut up.

I like the idea of making The Sole Survivor the antagonist of the game. In this universe his wife and child are dead, but in return he conquered all of the Commonwealth with his loyal followers and made it a safe place to live. But somewhere along the way he became disillusioned with being a leader and being forced to do everything because everyone else was so incompetent. He abandoned his role and set out to discover long lost secrets that might be a final solution to humanity's salvation.
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>>158360285
Probably views the faction as a whole and sees that they're ultimately the best bet. After talking to Caesar I can see I happening.

I also love the cognitive dissonance here.
>the Legion conquers tribals
>puts all the men to death or to slavery
>children effectively put into a meat grinder, indoctrinated into the Legion and used in warfare from a young age with most dying ridiculously young
>waaaaah women get raped
They legit probably have the comfiest lives if they can move on from psychological traumas
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>>158360285
To convince Caesar that women can actually get shit done. To use Speech and piss off that sexist arena caretaker so much that he wants to kill you in front of everyone in the arena.

To convince Caesar to reconsider training and deploying female Frumentarii.

Imagine traveling to the Fort for the first time and seeing Sunny Smiles who reveals that she was a Frumentarii the entire time and that Caesar has at least one of them in every town and settlement.
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>>158360285
>>158360345
>>158360764
>>158360785
>tfw ywn never be a female "morale officer" for the legion

or be female desu.
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Classic Fallout thread moving faster than Fallout general, F4 loving faggots on suicide watch, LMAO
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>>158358050
>ncr are still worse for residents of new vegas
Yeah, that's why ncr ending has best slides.
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>>158360764

The Legion doesn't seem like the kind of place you'd find trauma therapy specialists - and rape isn't something people "get over," if you'll take my anecdotal word from doing social work. It frequently results in long-haul, complicated trauma. In stable Legion territory there's probably systems of concubinage/marriage similar to Rome, but women on the frontier are, well, fucked.

I always figured part of the appeal of Legion for hardcore supporters was you didn't really care what happened to women in the first place.
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>>158358393
>everyone has a chance to be promoted up the ladder, slaves included.
Wait, how do we know that slaves can be promoted?
Also is it possible for people in the legion to opt out of the military lifestyle and just go farming/trading?
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you guys ever cosplayed fallout
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>>158363134
Pretty sure they will, once New Vegas has been captured and the Legion finally has an actual city.
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>>158360558
>if anyone else wants to know more i'll keep going
I want to hear more once you've made significant progress.

If not, then go to /fog/ and bother them.
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Whoever suggested I use CCC over Companionable, thank you. I can finally have the megaqt who you save from geckos at the beginning tag along.
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>>158366160
It's cool.
Most companion mods have unique images of their face that show up on the side, it's pretty cool.

There's a lot of handy features, too.
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>>158363627
Is this a question?
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>NVB1
>gunslinger bounty
>walk into goodsprings
>sunset
>big iron comes on
TOO COMFY
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>>158367919
I took him on with my Cryo Revolver
High tech cowboys are the best.
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>>158366249
>images of their face that show up on the side
Literal (and I do mean actual literal) cancer.
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For real though, would you do the dead?
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>>158371929
*DEED
DEED
I MENT DEED
DO THE DEED
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>do a clean install of new vegas
>no mods, plugins or anything besides nvse
>still get application load error

WHAT THE FUCK IS MY LIFE ANYMORE
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>>158371929
>do the dead
Never thought you had it in you, /cfog/.
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>>158372115
Ghoul "lives" matter.

Seriously though I'd be Beatrix's little bitchboi in a heartbeat.
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Will Caesar-senpai think poorly of me for using a shishkebab instead of a knife spear?
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>>158373285
Daily reminder that Caesar wanted to buy energy weapons from Van Graffs.
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>>158373414
Caesar was supplying the Fiends with the shiny light shows their drug-addled minds preferred. To keep the NCR occupied with them at McCarran.
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Why is this general so fanatic about the legion and always antagonizing ncr?
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>>158373909
Do not confuse funposting with fanaticism.
Also, edgy faggots.
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>>158373909
Because 4chan is run by /pol/.
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Will Caesar senpai think poorly of me for purifying water before drinking it?
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>>158374031
>/pol/ identifies with the degenerate legion over the stoic, militaristic NCR
what the fuck am I reading
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>>158373991
>>158374031
Well, can't really say I'm surprised. Still, some of them made valid points sometimes and it worried me that all this crucifyign business was actually right in some way.
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>>158373460
Well, there's also that one Legion centurion guy with a minigun in Lonesome Road, buggy as he is.

>>158374126
As long as you don't need a GECK to purify it...

>>158374130
Google what "stoic" actually means.
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>>158374238
The NCR is stoic.
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>>158374238
>minigun
>energy weapons
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>>158374130
>Fascist wehraboos prefer a fascist shitposter and his all male but totally not gay slave army over an inclusive democratic republic

What a surprise
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>>158374385
>shishkebab
>energy weapons

Hm, actually, I'm pretty sure I've seen Assassins use shishkebabs once or twice, I think my first hit squad had one.

>>158374297
No it's not, most troopers were drafted and had no choice and they hate it in Mojave. They spend their money getting shitfaced on the Strip.
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>Itt: ncrfags don't get that imperialist expansion is doomed to eventually fall

>Itt:stormfags stroke their tiny dicks at the of sucking off daddy caesar
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NO GODS
NO MASTERS
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>>158374519
Newsflash, dumbo. Every military organization on earth functions that way. That doesn't mean the NCR doesn't actively try to portray an image of stoicism.
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>>158374519
If Legion assassins can use a thermal lance, they can use shishkebabs.
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>there are people in this thread that don't think they could be better for the people of the Mojave than gaesar or kimball or any rand's wetdream
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>>158359592
i use and enjoy this mod solely on the basis that i was tired of seeing the ncr armor and thought it'd be nice to have some variety
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>>158374705
It doesn't matter what some of them want to portray, the truth is obvious if you open your eyes. It makes me more sympathetic to them, if anything, they feel very human.

>>158374724
Yeah, though Thermic Lance is obviously way more high-end. Hell, they use chainsaws too.
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>>158375083
Exactly my point. Shishkebab is low-end homemade garbage by comparison.
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Will Caesar senpai think poorly of me for using basic sanitation and hygiene so I don't die from commonplace ailments?
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>>158375928
Yes.
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>>158375928
You'd be a degenerate for not using basic sanitation and hygiene my Profligate friend
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>>158378671
yes. always enema
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>Thread split
>Both generals fine for a while
>All FO4 DLC is out
>/fog/ is dying / dead
>2 dead generals

You guys really need to put your differences aside and merge.
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>>158358393
>hey are not allowed to indulge in vices such as gambling, alcohol, or chems. they believe these damage your body and hinder your potential.

This one thing I dont quite understand. Wouldnt controlled use of chems like psycho and jet be incredibly useful for them in combat? Addiction cures can be developed (or even become mandatory) or they could even see it as an additional layer of their "survival of fittest" mentality.
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>>158359605
Is it even possible to work your way out of being a slave and say, into being a legionaire?
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>>158380318
I am never going back to a general tainted by waifu autism.
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>>158380318
Nobody cares

Go back to your dying circlejerks of waifushitting, we are fine here
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>>158380318
Yeah not while the first posts in the thread are always shit like this >>158355031
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>>158380318
>Willfully going back to general with that faggot Buffscale
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>>158380318
Translation

>please come back to F4 generals! They completely suck because the people who frequent them now cant talk about anything else other than their waifus
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>>158380318
Fuck off cunt. No one cares if your shitty waifu general dies.
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How can I change the spawn rate of NPCs in DUST?
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>>158371929
>>158373183
>would you do the dead
rude, she's not an ACTUAL zombie you know
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>>158385681
What does ghoul pussy taste like?
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>>158380318
>thinking /cfog/ exists because of /fog/
It exists because of spam threads on /v/. We never asked to be here, but I guess if we are having daily New Vegas threads, it probably did make sense for us to moved to /vg/.

>>158386793
Battery acid and rotten fish.
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>>158367959
>Cryo Revolver
>Energy weapon revolver
Neat!
link?
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is there a way to make boone wear other armor aside his survival armor?

im trying to make him wear this mod armor but he just doesnt equip it
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>>158358256
> absolutely everyone I don't like is a commie
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>>158388832
Try this?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/46080/?
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GUYS HOW DO I STOP STARTING A NEW GAME, IVE PLAYED THE FIRST 50 HOURS OF THIS GAME OVER 15 TIMES
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>>158389510
Do something new and unique. Impose some creative restrictions etc

Or you could just play something else for a change
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>>158389510
Stop doing the same thing over and over.
Always putting points into guns/speech? Try explosives or energy weapons. Try a low int run or high strength.
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>>158389652
>>158389827

Ive tried all of those, i guess im broken
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>>158358393
I wonder if this one actually believes in what he wrote.
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>>158385681
>post-necrotic humans
>not actual zombies
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Which companions should I kill in a Legion run?
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>>158359592
> I'm starting to see a trend here. The more easier path to take, the more mods will be made. The more challenging or unconventional path will have almost no mods being made.
No fucking shit, genius. I bet you feel like you're the smartest son of a bitch in this room.
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>>158390030
Have you tried TTW? Have you tried DUST or some other overhaul mod?
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>>158390349
All of them
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>>158390428
Nope to both, I want to try complete the game at least once as fairly vanilla (using jsawyer mod)
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>>158390258
>humans which haven't died
>zombies
So what, getting trenchfoot classifies you as the undead?
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>>158390637
Wait you've not even completed it?!

Anon you need to get out of this rut. At what point do you start getting bored? For me it starts to drag around the Boomers. Once I get over that hump, I'm good.
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>>158390818
if that trenchfoot is over 100% of your body then yes
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>>158374031
>The "Anyone I don't like on this site is /pol/" response
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>>158391026
Usually Novac but I usually skip it now. I get bored once I reach the strip or, if i manage to stay interested, after Ive done a DLC when I arrive back at the Mojave. Makes me lose interest and want to reroll yet again...
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>>158380318
Im fine without seeing a waifu circlejerk thank you
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>>158380318
There's just not much to say about the empty husk that is Fallout 4. Maybe there will be only one /fog/ left after no one talks about FO4 anymore. That might take a while though.
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>>158353049
hey /cfog/ i asked in the last thread but didn't get a response, trying a second time.
whats a good gun i could use for a tribal type character? are there some homemade guns i could find in the mojave?
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>>158389510
Play as a pacifist. What exactly are the first 50 hours? At what point does it become boring?When you have to do the faction recruitment stuff?
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>>158390208
Of course he does.

Legionfags think that being a slave in football pad armor is better than being a free waster.

>muh meritocracy

At the end of the day, no matter how skilled you are, Caesar owns your bp.

>muh clean living

That is just to make you, Caesar's property, last longer as you labour for his profit.

Admit it legionfags, you just want daddy caesar to carry your leash and take you out on walkies.
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>>158392143
Medicine Stick is a pretty obvious one, A Light Shining in Darkness could work too
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>>158390349
Raul and Rex (with Lupa's brain).
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>>158392143
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/58139/?

Has a bunch of homemade/scrambled together weapons in it, both cheap versions of existing weapons, as well as unique variants like a 9mm rifle and a crossbow. Comes with a bunch of armor too which is really well made.

Only downside is that it requires TTW, and there is no workaround because it uses F3 assets which aren't in the base FNV files.

Or you could use the survivalist rifle.
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>>158392143

Probably some mods out there that add more home-made looking guns. But melee would be your best bet.

Could be interesting though, Some ideas of mine:

1)No manufactured chems, only tribal remedies allowed. (healing powder instead of stims etc)
2)Low intelligence, maybe around 4
3) high strenght and endurance, agility as well, low charisma though.
4)Only allowed to wear low-grade armour, leather armor etc
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>>158390349
All of them but Rex and Arcade.
Sell Arcade into slavery or get the remnants to fight for the Legion, and get the brain of the Legion dog put inside Rex.
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>>158392143
Hunting rifle looks like it's in poor condition, makes a good weapon for a tribal scout/hunter.
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>>158392534
that's what ive been doing, melee/unarmed, and i wanted to have some spears/throwing axes too but those are pissweak with project nevada/not very plentiful. so i need some kind of rifle to lug around.
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>>158392787
Then I think what this anon>>158392329 said would be the best option.
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>>158392874
honestly i kinda wish i could reverse import the pipe gun from fallout 4 to nv. those might fit my character pretty well.
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>>158391605
>Usually Novac but I usually skip it now
I hear you there senpai I'm sick of Come Fly With Me. Usually skip it now.

My NV runs these days now only involve things that strictly involve my character specifically. The note in my pipboy at the start says the Mojave Express might hire hit men to go after me if I don't deliver my package so getting it back is priority #1. Better roleplay opportunity this way imo.

Also making it to freeside poor is more interesting then walking straight on to the strip
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>>158393075
Well there's this
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/60677/?
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>>158393075
I honestly feel like a tribal would be more inclined to use a gun they found rather than making their own.
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>>158392224
50 hours is usually travelling through the mojave to Vegas, doing Repconn and Helios one, then you do freeside/strip.mccarren and get billion quests. Thats usually when it starts losing direction for me. Ive tried going to Zion and that helps a lot but when I return Im bored again with no sense of direction.
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What's /cfog/'s opinion on the powder gangers?
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>>158394204
Absolute scum, kill them every time.
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>>158394204
Wasted faction. Not nearly enough quests for them and not nearly enough quests involved with getting rid of them.
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>>158394204
Shoot on sight, even as a lawful good/neutral characters. They offer nothing of worth, even Dindu khans have some use if youre a degenerate.
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So what loadout/restrictions should an enslaved legion (female) courier have?

Other than hardcore mode I mean.
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>>158394204
They make damn good target practice. Just don't waste too much valuable ammo up on them.
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>>158394898
Mouth is reserved for legion use only
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>>158394204
Good source of target practice and dynamite.
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>>158393345
It's not so much they're gonna make a gun as something that works like a gun, like some kind of dart gun would work just as well. I do agree they would probably be more into using a weapon they found rather than making their own.
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AVE TRUE TO CAESAR
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>>158394898
No weapons and wear slave rags. How are you exactly going to play? I think you're playthrough ends as soon as you encounter the legion.
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>>158395318
Not even a knife spear?

Pls no bully
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>>158395486
>Pls no bully
>wants to roleplay a slave
You've got the wrong mindset for this, bud.
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>>158395031
>loves explosives
>doesn't help the powder gangers
What the fuck have you got against us, bitch?
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>>158395486
Only holdout weapons or something like that. Stuff you can hide inside your ass Ala drug smuggler fashion.
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>>158395581
Fair enough, is there a way to make a semi viable true unarmed character in nv?
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/cfog/ is a hugbox and anyone who says otherwise is a liar and will knee jerk shout "bethdrone"

It's literally just a NV-themed Tumblr blog at this point.
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>>158380684

>says the people who argue about Cass being a slut all day or about how cute Veronica's face is
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>>158396128

/cfog/ and /fog/ are like the US presidential election

Nobody likes either choice.
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>>158396128
Nice input.
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>>158395920
You are like children who have found their father's gun under the bed. You act all tough without knowing the true potential of the weapon you are barely able to hold in your hand.

Plus you guys are dicks.
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My courier hasn't had a particularly hard life, but look inexplicably sad anyway.
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oh shit, he dabbin'
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>>158397347
>green HUD
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>people unironically play as legion slaves

Why?
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Is The Gunetwork acting weird for anyone else?
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>>158397537
This was a couple months a go, now I have seen the light of amber HUD and green pip boy
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>>158397673
Because it takes them into a position of weakness they get off of? Because role playing something that out there is fun?
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help

i have been playing new vegas since it came out and have never finished the game once

never done the battle for hoover dam
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>>158398054
Because they're sad excuses for human begins? Got it.
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>>158394204
Good for some early-game XP and ammo, but to be disposed of after the NCR storms the prison.
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>>158394204
>do I Fought The Law for NCR
>ending slide tells that the prison just ends up abandoned
>don't do the quest or just don't kill Eddie and finish the game for NCR
>NCR storms the prison and easily takes it over, possibly restoring it to its old function

Any reason to actually do that quest?
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>>158394898
Gladius, rags, collar

No modern meds, no guns, no eweapons, only explosive is dynamite.

No fast travel.

No fun.
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>>158399127
What is a human begin? Is that anything like a human bean? Where does it begin? Does it begin again? Speaking seriously I don't care what you role play as, so long as you don't interrupt my rp
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>>158399567
Easy experience, especially if you go in with the intention of helping the Powder Gangers. You get two extra quests which are just "tell X to fuck off/kill them instead".

Assaulting the prison itself, for me at least, was really fun. I like the big shoot out set pieces. Having them all the time gets boring, but having set locations/endings where stuff like this occurs is a well received treat.
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>>158398589
Come on, how far are you? Make a save and rush the dam in the name of whatever faction you support, it's pretty fun.
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You know, I've never actually tried a legion run.

Is a male or female courier a better choice for one (by which I mean which gets a more true picture of legion life), and would you do melee or guns?
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>>158400734
Melee and male.
Why the fuck would you go female and pro Legion?
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>>158400862
I mean apart from ortho, do legionnaires treat you different?
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>>158400734
Male obviously, however Im aklso considering a female legion run. Someone else sorta mentioned it but being a third party who just wants top show Caesar that women arnt completely useless in warfare, especially as assassins
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>>158400267
>tfw defending the prison against NCR with a varmint rifle and some dynamite
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Will Caesar senpai think poorly of me for having a gash instead of a weener?
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>>158401537
Ofc, women r gay
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>>158401676
>T. Caesar
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What are some interesting female characters for roleplay? I've always played a male character, but if anyone has a suggestion a female character build I'd love to hear it.
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>>158401232
I was thinking more "help out Eddie, then we comes to Primm, tell the NCR what he is doing"

There really should be options for the Powder Gangers outside of the just their hostilities with the NCR.
>House
Escaped convicts are bad for business; a combination of them and the deathclaw infested quarry has rendered the I15 route impossible. Therefore House aligned players will have to find a way to get rid off them.
>Legion
With a bit of skullduggery, the player can manipulate the Powder Gangers into bombing/raiding the Mojave Outpost, possibly in exchange for raw goods like food or meds. However because they are technically "degenerates", you can spike the food/meds you give them, or convince them they can have free passage or they get ransacked alongside the NCR.
>Yesman
Up the player; Yesman doesn't really give a shit.
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>>158401902
Mr.House's secretary. Business suit and laser/plasma pistol. For more dangerous missions you can suit up in some heavy armour courtesy of Mr. H.
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>>158401902
Former stripper/floozy who wants to make it big after spending her life in the gutter. Pick both "black widow/cherzez la femm" and max out speech. Use only small guns, but don't invest heavily into firearms. You're not exactly a well built type.

House/Yesman would be best for this imo.
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>>158401902
Police girl
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>>158401902
Mother trying to find her son and bring him the lunchbox he forgot to take. Son being a NCR soldier.

1) Always have to carry the first caravan lunch you find/make. No using it under any circumstances
2)Only wear a pre war dress and somekind of bonnet.
3)Rolling pin and maybe a 9mm if you're in a tight spot.
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What are some things to do endgame after you've done every quest? Do assassin squads keep coming for you? Do enemies re spawn in the Divide? Is there anything left to fight? What do you use all your giant guns and cool weapons on?

And don't tell me to start a new game or install mods.
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>>158402164
>>158402215
>>158402541
I'll probably try one of these, thanks for the suggestions.
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>>158402974
Stop playing.
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>>158402912

>Mother trying to find her son
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>>158401902
granny gun-nut
sweetest old lady you'd ever meet
bakes cookies, knits sweaters, always breaks up fights
can blow a frying pan sized hole in a deathclaw's skull at 500 yards and swiss cheese bandits with a rain of lead death
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>>158402974
exit the game
theres nothing left to do once you've taken the dam, no matter who you helped take it
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>>158403176
Not all that similar really. In my run your son isn't really in any imminent danger, just forgot take his lunch.
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>>158403310
He's in imminent danger of starvation if you don't take him his lunch tho.
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>>158402974
This picture makes me angrier than it should.
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>>158403231

Yes there is. You can still bring Muggy more Mugs that spawn in the world space, you can fight more Zion beasts, Marked Men and other shit that spawns. You can also complete Super Mutant Massacre by farming muties ever 4 days. Though it's kinda hard because there's not even 50 mutants in the whole game unless you spawn farm them.
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>>158401902
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>>158403578

Are you normally triggered by people who aren't socially awkward fat neckbeards enjoying things you like? Or just enjoying things you don't like? Because if just that makes you angry, you're going to have a rough life.

>>158401232
>not Massacreing the invasion force with grenade machinegun and then destroying the entire NCR force in the Mojave for daring to attack your powder buddies
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>>158403878
>That deathclaw on the right
Kek, whats wrong with his arm?
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>>158403878
He said interesting female characters.
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>>158404174
Bit of both.
>going to rough life
I already do.
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>>158401902
Have one I have been meaning to run for a while:

Delinquint from California that wandered east to escape the law. She landed a sweet courier job that was just too good to be true. Nobody would miss a degenerate junkie like her with no family or connections. She wants nothing more than to stick a radscorpion venom coated steak knife in Benny's back, but deep down she knows he was right and her life is worth nothing to anybody. Maybe it's time to change that.

Low strength and endurance. High luck and agility. Medium intelligence charisma and perception.

Tag melee sneak and lock picking

Small frame and hot blooded

Psycho addict. Leads her to occasionally make violent snap decisions while high. Some violent outbursts when suffering from withdrawals.
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>>158403129
DIfferent anon, but ivbe decided to sorta combine these and have the child of enclave parents who died back in F2 (like Arcade), becomes a hooker/stripper growing up but still remembers how to use and work energy weapons when thought as a child.
Follows Mr.House's interest in them, after getting shot, to get some sort of money/structure/power in life.
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Yes man is the best route anyway.
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How is it actually possible to do a pistol run?

You are just going to be outgunned sometimes, even if you stimpak spam you cant possibly find enough stimpaks.
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>>158405393
>cop out retard proof ending
>the best
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>>158405393
Pretty much yeah, by the time you reach the end of the game you're already some kind of god and following someone else's orders would just be to gimp yourself.
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anyone here minds a drawfriend?, I'd like to warm up a little and draw your vault dwellers/chosen ones/couriers

just post up a screenshot or a small desc. if its from F1-F2
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>>158405601
>pushing someone else's ideology instead of your own
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>>158405893
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what's the worst ending possible? Yes man, negative karma, fuck over everyone right? I want to make an explosive obsessed psychopath that just wants to blow all major factions and everyone under them up, with complete and utter disregard for the wellbeing of the mojave
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>>158405571
12.7mm pistol/lil devil is really strong and lightweight. The professional is a great perk.
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>>158405893
Sorry if it's a little dark.
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Why are all modders running the game on a 1999 dell computer?

It's hard to tell if your gun or armor is any good when you have everything is set to low in your screenshots.
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>>158406203
>T. never played NV before
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>>158406212
But the only common ammo is 9mm/10mm.

Otherwise i would just go 45 acp.
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>>158405571
very doable
5.56/that gun have armor piercing
12.7mm/lil' devil/hunting revolver/ranger sequoia hit like trucks
otherwise 44, 10mm, maria, 45/ALSiD can get you through the day to day murder
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I'm tearing up every time I hear the Siera Mandre broadcasts.

Every single time. Dead Money is just too fucking good.
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>>158406475
why? I have like 500 hours, but all my runs have been actually giving a shit about the mojave and their inhabitants in some capacity, I want to see how badly I can fuck shit up for once
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>>158406598
>tfw the ending theme always makes me teary-eyed
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>>158406480
scrounger, and get rich because NV shits caps at you, just empty out the gunrunners' and 188 weapon dealer's inventories. And you only need the big stuff for special occasions, 9mm(maria mostly)/10mm can handle most stuff if you invest perks into it
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Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExlTt9-3_FE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUhbpERYIsk
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>>158405893
Why not? It's been a while since the last Fallout drawthread.
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>>158405893
>Don't have a screenshot handy
Oh well. Maybe some other time.
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>>158405893
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>>158407219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR80JT8bFEg
This one is actually good.
>in Fallout NV it was like we have a problem, fortunately there are lots of solutions
>or you can pickpocket me
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>>158405893
still working on unfucking the tesla variant
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>>158408632
At least Kilian is far more entertaining compared to needs a bullet in the head JonTron, amirite?
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you call this a classic fallout general, this is just /nvg/

stop lying
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>158409546
No (You)s for you mr. b8
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>>158409546
Nothing stopping you posting isometric Fallout related stuff anon.

This was always a FNV heavy forum. That's how it was during the /v/ days
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Because talking about 1 and 2 isn't disallowed in /cfog/, while like talking about NV in /fog/ was
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>More unique posters in /cfog/ than /f4g/.

kek.
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What are some fun playstyles for f1/f2? I've always went with a pretty basic character like guns or energy weapons. Might want to try something like a pacifist or an explosives expert.
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>>158360285
What would a male courier even want to support the Legion for? I mean even if you agree with the Legion's goals and methods, if you stick around after the Legion captures the dam and become part of them, you still end up Caesar's bitch, a literal slave. A valued and respected one maybe, but still completely at Caesar's mercy. Would he just let you walk away or turn down an assignment, really? You'd have to be willing to give up a fuckton of personal freedom, which is rough even if you don't think other people should have it.
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Anyone know the status on Fallout: The Story and/or The Frontier?
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>>158409942
At this point even the regular Fallout 4 fans left, either because all the DLCs are out or because the Buffscale cancer discourages non waifushitters from posting.
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>>158410164
>weijesen
aren't they busy making eve for fallout 4
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>this is an improved holdout weapon
>12.7mm pistol and that gun aren't
?????????
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>>158410082
How would you even make an explosives expert? There's no Explosives skill. Tag Big Guns, Traps and Throwing, I guess?
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>>158410236
>Sir, your hand appears to be immolated.
>No way!
>Sir, your clothes are on fire right now. Let me get an extinguisher.
>[Sneak 50] You're just immagining things.
>Right Sir, enjoy your stay.
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>>158406598
>>158406981

go to 1,16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGnEw5Wwi-0
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since both threads are dead I created a new general for everyone to come together but no waifushitting or shitflinging is allowed

>>158410543

if you don't care about this rivalry nonsense but want discussion without waifus come if you want
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>>158406265
sorry for the wait, I started them just now because I got really busy.

I'm glad I got plenty to do! thanks for the screens
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>>158410679
How are you going to discourage waifushitters?

You cant.

Look this thread is nice and alive, and truthfully there is NOTHING to talk about with fallout 4. N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

Just wait a year or 2 and F4 will be welcome here and still no one will care.
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http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62035/?

This is a great looking gun.
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>>158410679
we're fine here

no one wants to hang out with F4 fanboys because there is nothing to talk about in 4 other than waifus

no one except you I suppose, good riddance
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>>158410924
Looks really good in the authors images

but not as flattering on the user's images
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What are the most useless skills in fallout 1/2?
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>>158410731
Shit anon, hats off to you. That is a really nice drawing. Not the choice of gun I'd use, but still, I'm definitely saving this. Thank you very much.
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>>158410731
I really like your style.
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>>158411162
Probably Throwing, Gambling, Outdoorsman, and First Aid.

Not sure if there's anything you can do with FA that you can't do with Doctor.
At least in 2, you don't really need Outdoorsman once you get the car.
Gambling is totally unnecessary unless you really like the idea of gambling.
Throwing is a waste unless you're doing a grenade only run or something.
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>>158408214
looks really cool but

>smoke going through the hat
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How about some run ideas?

Rules? Restrictions? Feel free to include any mods.

I recently did a Dr Who run, I only wore plain clothes, had maxed out science and just run away from everything.
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>>158410731

I know it's FO4 trash, but can you draw my character please?
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>>158412087
For a second there I thought the tree was part of your sledgehammer.
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>>158412057
I'm surprised you didn't comment on the awful hat he's wearing.

If only Daniel's hat was smaller.
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So is there a mod that actually causes the legion to treat you like an actual slave?
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>>158400862

You're going to be exempt from the normal Legion rules for as long as Caesar thinks it's a good idea for you to be exempt from those rules. If that ever falls through, you're going to be in for a rough time unless you enjoy being what is basically a dehumanized resource to be used and disposed of whenever convenient.

This is true whether your character is male or female. I'd say a female character has as much reason to support the Legion as a male one; assuming they act out of pure self-interest, both will be in for a privileged life in the best-case scenario or a rather unpleasant one in the worst-case scenario.
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>>158412084
The Hercules run is always fun
>low int, maxed out strength and charisma
>complete the 12 labours, only stylized to suit New Vegas
>Kill the Nemean lion and wear it's pelt becomes kill Vulpes and wear his hat
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>>158404921

You probably won't read this, but that sounds like a solid character concept, Anon. I've enjoyed something similar myself.
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Shill mode activated. If you aren't running the 4gb exe, reduced stuttering and anti-crash mods, you really don't know what you're missing. Shit is smooth as fuck. Haven't crashed once in my new game - after playing a 40 hour game where I crashed maybe once an hour or so, depending on how many times I reloaded.
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>>158412468
Theres a mod in which you play as a slave, not sure if it has anything to do with the legion though

never played it myself so I cant recommend it

here it is

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/47713/?

>>158412612
Hey thats a good one

Although that Herc is the Hollywood Herc

Real Herc was actually more smart than charismatic so a max int and str would work.

Luck would have to be low because the Gods kept screwing him over.

Will definitely try this playthrough, just need more labours ideas.
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>>158412814
>not just making the .exe large address aware
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>>158413396
Dont have to do that if you just bought the game.
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Would Caesar senpai think poorly of me for wanting to be his pet slut/killer?
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>>158406174
I should have asked around what sort of weapons your characters use. (if they arent in the screenshot)
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>>158412941
I did have the list written down somewhere, but from what I can remember off the top of my head
>2nd Labour: Lernaean Hydra
Kill the deathclaw matriach and her children with a lead pipe.
>5th Labour: Augean Stables
Murder all the Dead Horses
>6th Labour: Stymphalian Birds
Wipe out the cazador nest with throwing weapons only
>7th Labour: Cretan Bull
Defeat Caesar using only your fists. No fist weapons except boxing tape.
>10th Labour: Cattle of Greyon
Escort 3 wild and angry Brahmin to Goodsprings
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>>158413935
Only if you're playing a female courier.
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>>158414160
Just remember another
>9th Labour: Belt of Hippolyta
Pickpocket Majorie's dress and give it to Veronica for her companion quest.
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How would I do a Tank Girl run of New Vegas? Any mods that can help me out?
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>cant offer your boipucci to Boone.
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>>158412084
Doing a tribal throwing weapons only.

No stimpaks/chems
No VATS
no guns
no energy weapons
no explosives
hardcore, very hard.
All the restrictions possible man.

Just me and my dead horses armor and a shitton of throwing weapons.

Survival is life.
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>>158414691
Do one in F4, game's practically made for it
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>>158414801
I hope you pick the cannibal perk, otherwise its a waste.
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anyone familiar with this "modpack"?

http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas

seems bretty gud
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>>158415292
its just a collection of the top 10 nexus mods in every category
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>>158415292
The fact that the only recommended companion mod is fucking Willow should tell you everything you need to know about that ''modpack''.
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>>158415292
>modpacks
>willow
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What does cass' butt smell like?
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>>158414067
that looks great man. if you're still around after youve finished the other requests would you mind doing another? the last pic was in casual attire
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>>158416628
Your character looks better normal clothes on.
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>>158388397
Bit late replying, but I use the full FOOK-PN convergence barring AWOP because it's trash.
One of those has it in there.

Even still, most people don't know about it because there's only Cryo Revolver in the BoS Bunker
The schematics to make the ammo are on a table where the scribes are working on broken power armour and the like
There's a container nearby with the Cryo Revolver in it.
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>>158405893
He uses the hunting shotgun if it helps.
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>>158405893
How often would you be doing these? I'd like to send you a screenshot now but I can't, unfortunately.
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>>158407548
third one done, I think I'll start using a name now

the american flag as decoration goes so well with anything in FO.
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>>158417980
I'll prob do 4 more and be done for now, I'm way past the warming up but now this is just rly fun
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>>158416506
I imagine it smells like shit, you fucking waifu faggot.
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>>158417773
Where's the mod that gave you that sick scarf?
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>>158410082
Max Luck and Jinxed.
Have everyone else fall apart around you.
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>>158418209

>never did my fo4 character

f-fine, sorry I have shit taste
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>>158410924
Too bad about all the problems he's had, though I'm not surprised since he didn't even make the damn thing.
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>>158414160
>>158414485
If you can find the list and sort it into a proper run, then I'd like to put it into the pastebin.
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>>158418975
It's probably this.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35597/?

All you had to do is search "scarf" in the nexus.
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>>158419751
But you spoonfed me, and that I thank you for.
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>>158419441
No shit, fuck off you whiny faggot.
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>>158405893
well if you still feel like drawing
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>>158418209
THICC
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>people still can't deal with the cloud 5 years later
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62472/?
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>>158418209
>I think I'll start using a name now
As long as it's only in relation to your Disney-esque art.
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For anyone who feels the need to purge muties for the sake of your country
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/57889/?
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>>158421324
>not plasma
do you even enclabe
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>>158421436
Sometimes we have to take what we're issued.
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>>158419441
dont worry i will! I have something planned for his shape
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>>158408214
this old bounty hunter dude was really fun to do,

I miss the western feel of New Vegas so much
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>>158421961
You should do a comic.
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Im almost tempted to try F4 again because i already have ALL the dlc and i haven't tried any of it plus the geck is out now.

Just not interested in all that MUH BABY shit and being forced to be friends with those watchmen faggots or whatever they are.
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>>158422379

I got it just to make mods for it, and even that is a letdown.
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I just finished my first run, went for Mr. House. Didn't play the DLCs.

I want to go full hotline miami now, Melee character, baseball bat, red baseball jacket, jeans and purple UI. Is that possible?

Also what build is recommended to enjoy DLCs to the fullest?
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>>158422465
Yeah i just took a look at the mods right now to see what we have post-geck and it's literally just settlement shit and slutty vault suits.

They really can't do anything right with fallout 4. That new harbor dlc looked kind of interesting though.
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>>158421961
What are you using to do these drawings on?
>>158419712
Working on it now. Do you want me to dump the finished pastebin here for you to add it, or just add it myself?
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>>158422496
>Is that possible?
Yes, if you're not shit at the game.

>Also what build is recommended to enjoy DLCs to the fullest?
However the fuck you feel like playing it.
You can do all of them any way you want, there are options for every playstyle, even Explosives only.
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>>158422496
Melee is shit, i'ts like skyrim.

Like you are whacking people with whiffle bats and nerf swords until they get tired and fall down.
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>>158422783
>Do you want me to dump the finished pastebin here for you to add it, or just add it myself?
Considering you can't edit my pastebin, I'll have to add it myself.
Just post the finished pastebin.
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>>158422496
>I just finished my first run, went for Mr. House
Bad move

After being put into a coma due to his incomplete systems during the Great War, House wakes up in 2138, literally YEARS before even Shady Sands is founded. Despite this, he makes literally zero effort to use any of his large robot workforce that he has access to(you know, the one he uses to recruit the 3 senpaitachi in the first place) to try to rebuild Vegas, and get the local peoples on his side. If he had, Vegas could have been a self built functional city state before the NCR was even a thing.

To top this off, when he does get off his ass, a mere 7 years before NV begins, when the NCR first shows up in the region, he illogically screws over most of the local population by forcing them into run down slums, which only destoryed any possible support he could have gotten from them, but also dramatically weakened his power base.(if you remember, he recruited the Three Families and built Vegas to ward off the NCR a bit, as they didn't want to waste troops trying to take Vegas when they needed to fight the Legion)

Then, House takes the singular worst approach when it comes to running Vegas itself, being so entirely hands off that the White Gloves try to revert to cannibalism( a break in their contract), the Omertas develop the derogatory slang term "Not at Home" for House, and make their plans to gas the strip and take it over because House can't run it, and House's hand picked successor from the Chairmen betrays him as well.

THEN, to further fuck up his own plans, he sends one of his personal, and easily traceable, robots to organize an obviously suspicious order of 7 packages of various misc items, which only makes it incredibly easy to find the plat chip if you know what to look for, like Benny did.

This results in Benny getting the plat chip, House being left with zero agents, and his entire plan threatens to fall apart

(cont)
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>>158423046
In short, literally everything House has done has been entirely moronic, and obviously defeatist to his entire plan.

He shot himself in the foot by
-Not establishing a power base, and rebuilding the city, despite having over 100 years to do so
-Throwing out the overwhelming majority of people who could have reinforced his powerbase simply because they wouldn't play doll house dress up, despite the fact he didn't need them all too
-Not bothering to manage his assests in any sort of reasonable or logical way, resulting in all of them turning on him
-Setting up the singularly most stupid and obvious delivery method for his mcguffin item he NEEDED to have any chance at winning the war.
House did literally EVERYTHING possible wrong

To be perfectly honest, House is easily, bar none, one of, if not THE, singularly most poorly written major character in the Fallout franchise, excluding that non-canon BoS shit. Nothing he does or says makes any sense, or hold any sort of logical weight to it.

The only reason I can see for liking him is that House is basically the worst of the Internet's armchair intellectualism rolled into one character. He uses big words, and likes to talk a whole bunch of theory, but nothing he actually says makes sense.
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>>158423046
>>158423314
Stale pasta.
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>>158423046
>>158423314
I wonder if pasta-senpai is a Yes Man loser or NCRcuck.
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>>158423397
Its true though

House is 100%, Grade A, retard.
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>>158423531
>I wonder if pasta-senpai is a Yes Man loser or NCRcuck.
>Not including the Legion in that
>Indirectly implying they are any better
Looks like we found the Rome-fag
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>>158423531
He seems to frequent /fog/, so I'd assume Yes Man.

>>158423580
Irrelevant.
Posting the same shit over and over again any time anyone mentions House makes you look like a retard.
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>>158423732
>Posting the same shit over and over again
Thats only the second time I have ever posted it.

The first time was when I originally made it.

I can't help it if others post it all the time.
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>>158422712
The only good overhaul for it so far is frost imo. Fuck story.
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>>158423721
I'm a Housefag actually, but yeah they're definitely a close second best choice.
Go home Kimball, nobody likes you.
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>>158423732
>He seems to frequent /fog/, so I'd assume Yes Man
I don't get it.
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>>158424307
That both Yes Manfags and /fog/ are idiots.
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>>158424301
>but yeah they're definitely a close second best choice.
Not really.

The Legion is probably the least stable of all 4 choices.
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>>158417446
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40174/?
This it? I'm glad that many PN guns are available standalone as well.
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>>158402912
>9mm
>not a dainty little .357 or .22

C'mon, man
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>>158424478
I bet you believe the ''if Caesar dies, everything falls apart'' meme, don't you?
I hope you realize it's only true if Lanius takes over.
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>>158424489
Same/similar model, different gun.

>I'm glad that many PN guns are available standalone as well.
Almost all of them came as a collaboration from other modders, that's why you can find most weapons elsewhere.
Thing is, they tend to be better in the pack than standalone.
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>>158421961
Could you draw a character I was planning on using for my fallout PnP?
>supermutant covered in religious garments from all over
>Stretched and ripped stole around his neck, rosary beads around one of his hands, other sorts of religious paraphernalia over him.
I want this character to be a repentant 1st gen supermutant, who is looking for redemption in all of the pre war religions he can find.
I'm not sure what kind of weapon he would have, but It would be cool if it could be somewhat religious themed, like a big cross from a pulpit used as a hammer.
If you do this thanks a lot I really like your style.
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>>158402912
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/39971
.357 or bust
Bonus points for this being very in character.
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>>158424637
>I bet you believe the ''if Caesar dies, everything falls apart'' meme, don't you?
>Meme
>Sawyer, the lead writer, himself has said its true
>Avellone has doubly confirmed it

It doesn't matter who takes control. the Legion has been confirmed, by word of god, to not be able to outlive Caesar for the simple fact they don't follow Caesar's ideals, they only follow him.

It doesn't matter who takes over, every commander is going to try to sieze the throne for himself, and its going to tear the Legion back into the same tribal society it was before Caesar untied it.
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>>158424683
With the core module, can I just turn literally everything other than the new weapons off?
I REALLY need to find out how to make a merged patch
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>>158410082
Retard run in 2 is essential if you've never done it. Set Int to 1, str to 10 and punch through all your problems
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>>158424773
If only it took shotgun shells.

>>158424851
I have absolutely no clue.
Not a single inkling.

>I REALLY need to find out how to make a merged patch
That's simple as fuck.
Check the modding pastebin, it's got a guide.
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>>158424437
>people who like to be in control of their destiny and choices are idiots
Oh.
Okay.
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>>158425206
Nice rebuttal, faggot.
Further proof that Yesfags are just "my way is best meanie"
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>>158425206
I'm the guy he was originally calling a Yes Man fag, and even I would say Yes Man is a fucking terrible choice.
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>>158424848
>Sawyer, the lead writer, himself has said its true
>Avellone has doubly confirmed it
Oh, hardly. If Lanius gets it, maybe.

Legionaries worship the Caesar, not just Sallow. 99.99% of them have never even met the man. It's apparently rare for Caesar to even be seen. It makes zero sense to assume anything will change if someone reasonably competent becomes the next Caesar after Sallow dies (read: not Lanius).

Autocratic regimes don't spontaneously combust just because the leader is succeeded.
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>>158425447
Probably not even worth trying, anon.
Most anti-Legionfags are too set in their ways because "muh inequal womens" and "muh slaves"
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>>158425447
>Autocratic regimes don't spontaneously combust just because the leader is succeeded.
What is The Roman Empire.

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Caesar%27s_Legion
"RE: Caesar's plans: yes, he views the Colorado River as the Rubicon and the NCR as the corrupt Roman Republic waiting to be torn down via military occupation. This is literally exactly what Julius Caesar did with Legio XIII Gemina. Other things Julius Caesar did: not leave a clear line of succession, resulting in the early fracture and borderline collapse of the nascent Roman Empire he created." ~ Sawyer
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>>158425331
>my way is best meanie
And where did I say that? You must be delusional if you think you every choice you make is the best one.
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>>158426228
>And where did I say that?
It's what it always boils down to.

>You must be delusional if you think you every choice you make is the best one.
ANY choice or combination of choices is better than Yes Man.
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>>158426525
>It's what it always boils down to.
I like to think NV's writing is decent enough to not have a "best" solution for everything.

>ANY choice or combination of choices is better than Yes Man.
That's a funny way of spelling Legion.
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>>158426747
>I like to think NV's writing is decent enough to not have a "best" solution for everything.
But there's definitely a worst.

Hint: it isn't the Legion, House or NCR.
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>>158426865
>But there's definitely a worst.
We can agree on that, at least.

Hint: it's the unfinished husk of a faction.
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>>158422948
Okay I think it's done. You may need to edit it; it's a bit wordy, but because of the uniqueness of the run, I think it needed to be as long as it is.

http://pastebin.com/pP0WN84r
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>>158427046
You mean the one that's just one robot ripping off House?
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https://youtu.be/CCgzyYK2WuQ
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>>158427125
I mean a bunch of tribals that don't give you a single reason to side with them.
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>>158427167
how about you go beat up your sister some more you depressed fuck
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I'm making my own Sweetfx preset, does anyone know how i can make the game brighter without washing out all the blacks?

Because at night its impossible to see but during the day everything is washed out.
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Who /energyweapons/ here?

Laser or plasma?
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>>158427167
Stop shilling here, you lowlife.
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>>158427447
AER14 for long distance, Plasma sidearm.
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>>158427167
Your Let's Plays are the best Recluse.
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>>158426120
But the line of succession is perfectly clear to everyone in the Legion. I agree that it's a terrible idea to have Lanius be the successor, but I'm quite certain Sallow doesn't actually intend for him to be the successor at all given how he talks about him. I probably think Sallow hasn't truly considered the possibility of dying pre-synthesis, which I agree is a bit stupid. Then again maybe it's not that stupid, as the only way in which Caesar dies is by player intervention, and the player is literal god-tier in what he can do so that doesn't say anything.

If you do side with the Legion, the game hints that the Courier is the designated successor, since he's putting your face on the Aureus.

>>158425583
You're probably right, I'll stop now.
I'm not even a Legionfag, I prefer House. It just amazes me how people can actually think that the NCR could possibly be a better choice than the Legion given the game's world/universe, or that the Legion is as fragile as those NCR memelords would have you believe.
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>>158427447
Energy all day nigger

I use both but prefer plasma
Gauss is nice too
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>>158427107
Endurance should probably be set high, Herc is a beast after all.
Should mention why Luck is set so low as well.

Other than that, it's perfect and I'll have to do it myself soon.
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>>158412087
Last one for today! this was pretty fun, and a great practice

sorry to everyone who didnt got their characters drawn, maybe next time!

>>158422110
Actually I am planning on doing a Fallout 1 comic at some point, once I have more free itme in my hands

>>158422783
I use clip studio, its a pretty good program, like SAI with some photoshop options
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>>158428102
Balance purposes. I guess it would be higher than some of the other special stats, and it would probably have to be given the status of some targets you have to kill. As for luck being so low, it's collateral damage. It didn't make sense to have really low endurance or agility. I guess it can boosted by having low perception.

I also forgot to mention traits, but honestly they don't matter all too much.
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>>158429573
Well, however you see fit.
I'll chuck it in now.
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>>158396697
Maybe he remembers he left his pet with his neighbor back in NCR territory, and realizes said neighbor has probably thought he's dead and had it committed to a shelter by now.
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>>158430424
>committed to a shelter
>implying they wouldn't just eat it
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>>158427269

We're talking about major factions, idiot, not the Khans.
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>>158419848

Ha, based anon said he will. Fuck you.
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>>158431031
Keep being a faggot, anon.
Not my fault you've got shit taste and a horrible attitude.
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>>158428823

OH MY GOD I LOVE YOU, HE'S JUST THE BERSERKER I PICTURED HIM AS
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>>158431146
Calm down, fag.
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>>158389510
Sequence break, roleplay, and plan the whole game out
>snuck past deathclaws
>10K cap requirement has kept me out of Vegas
>working for the NCR, seeing the good, the bad and the ugly of them
>also helping the independent factions, many of who have their own pros and cons
>aggressively hunted by Legion, never faced this many hit squads in a single previous playthrough
>almost max level
>slowly becoming disillusioned with the NCR, there must be a better option for the region
>gonna ultimately side with either House or Legion when I finally pay or earn my way into the Strip
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Who is the best FO2 companion, and why is it Sulik?
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>>158432731
because 11 ap
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>>158430559
Well, I figured it was one of the more civilized NCR areas, where they like to pretend they aren't living in a post-apocalypse, so they make a big deal out of being 'civilized', and eat cats/dogs/iguanas/raccoons is hillbilly tribal behavior.

(I did realize how...reverse-anachronistic it sounded when I posted, but I decided to roll with it anyway.)
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This game crashes too much, even with like half a dozen bugfix and anti-crash mods.
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>>158435193
I haven't had a NV crash in years.

All it took was the anti-crash mod/patch.
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>>158435193

Tons of reasons an NV install can be unstable that can't be fixed with crash fixes - your OS, your system, incompatible mods, installation issues, file path issues (I have to make a 100% new NV install folder every time)...

Also, bugfix/anti-crash mods can be a case of too many cooks. Fake Fullscreen, .ini tweaks, 4GB, NVAC, Stutter Remover, and YUP should fix up almost all instability caused by NV itself and only three of those are actual mods.
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why do you faggots feel the need to have your own special snowflake general
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>>158436038

Peaceable truce to squash routine flame war within a divided fanbase.
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>>158432731

Everyone knows Pariah Dog is the true patrician's companion.
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>>158436038
Why do you feel the need to complain?

Wait, never mind.
I don't actually care.
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>Armor of the 87th gives sick DT and boosts
>but the colors are wrong and has no good headgear
WAKE ME UP
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>>158437263
Regular Centurion headgear
Or use one of the marked men helmets
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>>158437903
The Centurion headgear doesn't work because the fucking 87th armor is green and that clashes super hard with the red of the helmet
The marked men helmets are alright, I guess, but they feel too bland
Mostly I'm just complaining that the armor is green for some fucking reason when it should be red like the rest of the Legion's armor
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>>158438116
You could make a unique centurion headgear texture and make a helmet to go with it. It'd be a simple retexture.
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>>158438189
How difficult would it actually be to just recolor the Centurion's helmet plume to gold?
I might look into that later
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>>158438368
Wait, what do you mean it's green?
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>>158437263
>Wearing heavy armor
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>>158437263
Speaking of legion playthroughs..

Is it worth investing in crits for melee and unarmed? I it better to just go balls-to-the-walls strength/endurance/damage?
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>>158438549
I mean the armor is green and I think it looks really bad with the helmet
The only reason it looks okay on Gaius is because his face is red, on a normal human it looks really fucking awkward
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>>158438698
yes
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>>158438698
Crits are nice because the AI is braindead in this game so you can just slowly kill an entire base by just crouching behind people and meleeing them without raising any alarms.
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I want to go on a picnic in Zion.
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>>158439205
That doesnt sound very legion-like.
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>>158438368
Not hard at all
I knew literally nothing about working with the geck ten minutes ago, and I've got a yellow centurion hemet plume now
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Fuck cazadores.
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>>158441658
Is there a "Sex literally anything" mod now?
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>>158441658

You can, with mods.
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>>158440375

I can definitely see more skilled Legion forces stealthily Gurkha-ing their enemies to death. Remember Ranger Station Charlie?
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>>158441878
I guess im more in line with Lanius. Sneaking has never been a favorite method of mine in any game.
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>>158442246
That's probably because sneaking is for girls.
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>>158442246

This is why Lanius and Vulpes don't get along.
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>>158428823
>>158421961
>>158418209
>>158414067
>>158410731
wtf I love namefags now
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Any tips for playing Fallout 1?
Already have Fixt.
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>>158446661
There's hunting rifle in abandoned vault in the beginning, but it's hard to see.
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>>158446767
What abandoned vault?
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>>158412482
This guy gets it. I dunno why so many people don't realize that while your average Legionnaire thinks a women is useless, Caesar doesn't care since he judges the Courier by his/her actions in the Mojave, which can be quite legendary by the time you get to the Fort. And Caesar's opinion is the only one that matters.
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>>158401537
Caesar thinks Tandi was the best thing to ever happen to the NCR and that every other leader they had since then was completely worthless compared to her.
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>>158427447
I loved energy in originals, but in vegas I just can't use it. They are feel gimped compared to firearms now.
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>>158437263
I wore it with salt upon wounds' helmet.
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>>158447565

I think the confusion tends to be over why a woman would sweat to put into power a group that would happily enslave her if she wasn't capable of wiping out whole squads of them - but that's the job of the player, to develop their own motivations.

You do raise a good point: the Legion has little sympathy for anyone. Men who oppose them tend to be killed, while women are tortured and worked into the ground. So it's up to people's personal morals over what bugs them most.
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>>158446820
Vault 15 to the east of the starting point. You can dispatch khans easily with it.
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Why is NCR ranger patrol armor so cool?

I fucking love that design.
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>>158446661
Try and do all the quests in the first village and talk to people. It'll get you some much needed experience points.
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How's this?
S - 6
P - 8
E - 6
C - 4
I - 8
A - 9
L - 6

I picked Gifted, obviously.
Not sure what my other trait should be.
Tagging Small Guns, probably Speech and not sure what my third is.

>>158448046
Straight East?
Can I just follow the spaces?

>>158448154
I know that much, but thank you.
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>>158448298
Overseer will mark the location for you.
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>>158447883
EWs look weak as fuck if you look up their raw stats on the wiki, bu ine thing you need to consider is that an EW specialist wouldn't use regular ammo in any dangerous situation. Overcharged/optimized/max charge ammo greatly increases weapon damage and doesn't have downsides except for increased weapon degradation - unlike, say, HP ammo which gives you more damage but multiplies DT, crafted energy ammo gives you some AP effect AND more damage.

Look at Elijah LAER, for example, one of crazier guns. With optimized ammo and all mods it almost AMR tier damage and fires 2.5 times per second, giving it DPS you'd expect from an automatic weapon. And it's not even that flimsy if you have JSawyer.esp!

Also I think Laser Weapons have increased crit chances, and then you can take perk that increases them even more.
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>>158448434
Hell, even normal and I think even bulk Microfusion rounds have an innate -2 DT
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I can't pick up an Energy Weapon until late game in Fallout 1, can I?
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>>158358393
>BUT they treat their women like shit. Especially their slaves.

Not wholly true since we never seen Legion controlled area that have been scrapped out because fuck you that's why. If whole nursery and raising kids being matter that given wholely to women, it will considerably put them in a strong position later in future if it's not already so now.

We never seen Caesar's female adviser because not because he's sexist prick (well he does) but merely The Legion face we've seen in the game is their army. With so much emphasize on hierarchy and resources maximization, women literally have no place in the battlefield simply because they are too valuable to be taken to the battlefield (except the slaves of course). In the time of peace, it wouldn't be surprising if Caesar have a female adviser from the priestess rank.
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>>158449228
I'd say until midgame.
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>>158449489
But I have to wait long enough that I shouldn't tag it, correct?
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>>158449553
There's no much to tag anyway, so you can tag it right in the beginning as well.
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>>158395294
This picture always makes me think that modern Fallout would look better with a stylised aesthetic. Cell shaded like Wind Waker or JSRF would be awesome, and complement the stylised violence, setting and characters
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>>158361775
>and rape isn't something people "get over,
Allow me to put my Focault hat on and say: the only reason why rape is considered any different from any other physical violence is the cultural emphasis on sex.

We have no real idea how the wasteland sees sex, but the more *really* open society is to sex (not """open"""" like it is today) the less different rape is from just a punch to the face.

So your anecdotal experience is not really that valid.
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>>158451535
...dude, you're really going to neckbeard armchair philosopher rebuke someone's actual experience working with sexual assault victims to tell them that rape is only a big deal because people are all hung up over sex?

Where's that OSI dude screenshot when we need it?
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I found what it must be my best character in NV to this date.
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>>158452624
>Where's that OSI dude screenshot when we need it?
That would just wreck any legionfag argumentation.
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>>158452624
>someone's actual experience working with sexual assault victims
I'm not saying I agree with that guy, but we can't assume anything the supposed social worker says is fact, either.
We've no proof, so it's not "actual experience".
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>>158390395
> I'm starting to see a trend here. The more easier path to take, the more mods will be made. The more challenging or unconventional path will have almost no mods being made.
i meant the NCR (easy) and Legion (hard)
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>>158427447
JSawyer mod makes plasma weapons great again. Fixes a lot of stuff wrong with the game actually.
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So /cfog/ is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA a good song to replace Fallout New Vegas credits?
I like replacing the songs for more interesting ones than the Fallout theme.
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>>158456441
replace it and do a long playthrough so you forget and see if you like it
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>>158358798
Gonna need a source on this, anon. Google isn't giving me anything.
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would you guys ever consider playing a Fallout game that is set in the same universe using the same rules as the original games but not be open world or isometric?

What about an isometric Fallout game where you start with and control two main characters, a male and a female? You get to choose their traits which define their characteristics and a tiny bit of backstory and their tag skills that they are good with.

I think that would be an interesting idea for once.
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>>158456441
I like it. Kinda makes we want to play again, actually.
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>>158456832
>an interesting idea for once
What did he mean by this?
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>>158457101
I was going to put that, download the Benny bullet trophy mod and change the main song for Ghost Riders in the Sky or God's Gonna Cut You Down, i kinda feel that God's Gonna Cut You Down fits with the themes of the game.
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>>158457101
i don't think open world is the right way to go with Fallout. You can't foreshadow shit anymore. You can go anywhere at any time because everything is level-scaled. Quests and their rewards are more meaningless because you can go anywhere at any time. All the good content is saved up for the main storyline and so the rest of the game's quests are bad because they are not allowed to be better. You can't kill every NPC anymore and if you do then you can't have random encounters because you would run the risk of quest givers or objectives dying. And that's without all the bugs.

I think isometric or hub world (like Deus Ex or VTMB) is the way to go.
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>>158457297
>You can go anywhere at any time because everything is level-scaled
Except only New Vegas's DLC is level-scaled.

>You can't kill every NPC anymore
Can in New Vegas, except kids understandably and Yes Man and even then, you CAN kill him, he just has justified immortality.

>you can't have random encounters because you would run the risk of quest givers or objectives dying
That remind me of one of the few things Fallout 4 did right.
When your settlers are attacked, they get knocked down but get back again when attacked by anyone other than the player.
Only you can kill them.

>And that's without all the bugs
That only needs a change of engine to fix, that's not an open world issue.

I'm not even trying to be a dick, but I'm glad you're not in charge of Fallout.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>158456832
There's a game like this already.
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>>158457297
You do realize original Fallout was open-world, right? Bethesda games aren't the only way to do open world. Hell, New Vegas bypassed a lot of shit you are complaining about.
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>>158457464
i'm mostly talking about Fallout 4 but you can not have random encounters in New Vegas for that reason, but I'm glad they at least tried to do it with respawning patrols and hit squads.

I don't think you should ever be allowed to go anywhere at any time unless level-scaling is turned off. There are definitely places the player should be closed off because of the lack of satisfaction in completing challenges and feel like your character is getting stronger. If you have level-scaling then you feel like nothing has changed at all and there is no satisfaction in that.

But then sometimes players want to skip areas for whatever reason they choose. I think having shortcuts especially in such a dangerous world like Fallout should definitely play out against a player that is not prepared. If you are going to skip around, then how is that any different than beating the game at level 1? It would be too easy, then.

>>158457587
no. it was isometric and had maps that were laid out with specific entrances and exits. you can roam the world map and you get random encounters on random generated maps and enemies, which I miss dearly.
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>>158457920
>no. it was isometric
and what the fuck does this have to do with anything
>and had maps that were laid out with specific entrances and exits
You can only enter Megaton or Vault 101 through one specific entrance, Fallout 3 confirmed for non-open world!

And anyway, this matters jack shit, you can boot up FO2 and go straight to Navarro and get APA before doing any shit in Klamath and then come to Den and shit on Metzger. You can postpone any quest, really. Unless you make all quests have a timer, you will never solve this, but I don't think I'd want to play an RPG where every quest is on a timer. I'm too casual for that shit.

Wrt world map, you can just discover locations by walking on the world map and walking on the world map isn't limited in any way except by random encounters (which actually do level scale, by the way), but you can bypass those with Outdoorsman.
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>>158458358
>fallout becomes Dead Rising in a huge ass map
Fuck that for real.
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>>158451535

We do - there's a quest about rape.

I don't know what you mean by "open" about sex (not wanting to have sex when someone else demands it is being "closed" to sex? Can someone be more "open" to being stabbed with a knife?), but the freedom of people to choose their partners has become pretty firmly connected with our understanding of physical autonomy, much in the same way that we now choose our physical conflicts (sport vs. sudden violence). Assault on our physical autonomy, our safety, are neurologically coded into the brain - it can be seen as a form of brain damage. That's what we call "trauma." I worked with a man who had a motorcycle accident and couldn't stop seeing the bike flip over. It played like a film in his head, complete with physically debilitating symptoms that match a trauma response. He required therapy to move through this. Rape victims experience similar "replays."

I don't expect you to believe 4chan posts, or my anecdotes here or earlier. I just felt, I don't know... some kind of responsibility to mention that rape isn't a casual affair, because there's neurological data to the contrary. A lot of it, in fact. I haven't read Focault, but I really don't believe philosophy and science/social studies are resources of equal weight.
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>>158456832
>controlling multiple characters
god no

thats why I dont like tactics
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>>158458358
that's not what i meant. getting rid of open world means you cut out all the useless areas and sidequests and instead focus all that content to be related to big areas and cram those big areas with actual quality content. that's what i mean by having hub worlds. The classic Fallout games had the same idea. You had very specific locations but practically all of those locations had self-contained sidequests and some of those sidequests have you travel to other locations. It was not just boring kill,fetch,loot radiant quest #4208.

random encounters in Fallout 2 were region-based, meaning you could encounter Floaters, Wanamingos, or even Enclave Patrol.

so what if you could grab APA in Navarro early in the game? That might be a bad example of game design but also proves my point about open world games in that you lose satisfaction gained through hard work and building your character.
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I've seen a lot of modded NV videos with amazing reload animations for weapons and shit like ammo checking, which are those mods and where i can get them.
They are compatible with Lazarus Project?
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>>158456832
Just say that you want Larian to make a Fallout.
I'm not sure if it'll top NV, but I'd still be very interested in seeing that.
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>>158459228
Hitman's reload anims, someone will give you the mega link because I forgot to save it.
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>>158459151
you control one of them while the other becomes AI and can switch between them at any time. However, during dialogue choices they will both speak up and you can even have them talk each other about current events and how they can work together to solve active quests.
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>>158459228
thats hitmans shit
the reloads are on nexus and gun but the ammo checking is only on gun and some mega posted here a few days ago
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>>158459343
That just sounds awful.
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>>158459214
>that's not what i meant
Maybe you should use words the way everybody else uses them instead of inventing your own definition and then being surprised nobody understands them?
>random encounters in Fallout 2 were region-based, meaning you could encounter Floaters, Wanamingos, or even Enclave Patrol
Yes, but the amount scales with your level. As somebody who used to grind in FO2 because of no particular reason, Enclave patrols, for example, go from 3 to 6 to 9 to I think 12 guys, following the same plasma-gauss-pulse pistol pattern.
>so what if you could grab APA in Navarro early in the game
I was just trying to prove that FO2 is most definitely an open-world game.
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>>158459456
It doesn't have the latest ver 7.1 from Gunet and the Gunet link is down
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>>158459753
you've never played RPGs where party members are almost equally as important as the protagonist?
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>>158460116
I have and there's always a trade-off in losing personal choices to just do very little in the way of actual role-play with your party.
I've never seen it done right and believe me, I've seen a lot.
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>>158459214
>>158459808
trying to cheese my way to the enclave base at level 1 to get the apa was a mistake

took me 2 hours of savescumming to avoid getting murdered by enclave patrols
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>>158458896
I'm guessing he means "open" like, on a societal/cultural level. Some sort of hokem about shame-free sexuality not being a dirty subject etc etc, rather than, in most of Western Culture (particularly the US), sex isn't nearly as repressed as it is in, say, Islamic culture, or whatever, but it still isn't exactly...what? People doing it out in the street, with people walking by paying it no mind?

I don't know what his idea of an "open" society would be, if that's what he meant, but given that sex is going to always be an intimate act, adding violence and removing consent is always going to be an extra-worse form of assault, barring some sort of ridiculous 'sex is like a handshake, nobody attaches any importance to it whatsoever' fantasy that 'futurists' keep drooling over.
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>>158393093
The way I usually run it is that once I get to the strip, I need to start doing some work to get that 2000 caps, so I start the Honest Hearts DLC under the roleplaying guise of "I just need the caps."
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>>158461736
>but given that sex is going to always be an intimate act
How'd you come to that conclusion?
Surely it's not from looking back at differing points in history or at closely related species' because then you'd come to the opposite conclusion.
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>>158463136
Go fuck a bonobo, neckbeard.
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>>158463780
Is this anger because I'm not buying into your "sex is always going to be treated the same even though it's been proven not to" bullshit?

If it's not, please elaborate.
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>>158466683
I can't quiet believe it frankly. When the thread got moved from /v/ to /vg/, I thought it was going to be dead.

We have more unique posters than /fog/ now.
I'm not going back either, I'd rather keep the boards separate to avoid constant arguments rather than have actual discussions
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>>158462639
>2000 caps
There's a mod that boosts it to 10000 caps, would recommend

>>158461736
Your top paragraph is correct, your second paragraph is a perfect example of Foucault's philosophy though.

Imagine the impact of a rape in a society like the one depicted in Brave New World, for example. People have sex as a social thing, they start having sex as children, and people are pressured to have sex with everyone in their social circles, if they don't already. In that situation, I would imagine that something like a rape would have drastically reduced impact.

That being said, Jimmy the prostitute shows signs of trauma from his life as a Legion slave, so we could figure from there that trauma is probably rampant in women. Some tribes might have been way more accepting and sociable about it though, and getting raped or used as breeding cattle may have been something some women were born into already, making it much easier. Also depends on how savage the Legion is when they rape.
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>>158467851
My objection, as expressed in the second paragraph, is that barring some sort of ridiculously engineered society completely severed from the whole of human history and human behavioral norms, such as, yes, Brave New World's, such an "open" society will never come to be. As such, I predicate my statements on human behavior based on our history and where it's likely to go without some sort of unforeseen radical total upheaval and engineered bullcrap.

I would posit that the humans of the wasteland, barring the occasional tribal, and yes, even including regimented and engineered societies such as the BoS (which prides itself on upholding the continuity of the past), would be pretty much the same psychologically and socially as humans today, in most regards. Yes, violence is more a part of potential everyday life, conditions are harsher, and resources sparser, but, on average, assuming you're a wastelander that can actually speak english (or spanish, or whatever is appropriate to your region), and you're part of a society that isn't some sort of rape-crazy murder-happy raider group, yes, rape will still be traumatic for you.

This hardly seems a radical statement, based on the evidence, to me.
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>>158468693
>radical total upheaval and engineered bullcrap
WHAT IS AN APOCALYPSE
WHAT IS ISOLATED TRIBAL COMMUNITIES
WHAT IS VAULT EXPERIMENTS

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT GAMES YOU'RE DISCUSSING HERE
FUCKING HELL
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>>158468693
There is already a faction in the game that has demonstrated a willingness to rape en masse, it's not too inconceivable that somewhere in the wastes an insular community perpetrates this amongst their own, albeit in a less ferocious manner.

Its effectively what child marriages and prearranged marriages are anyway, and speaking anecdotally dire circumstances can drive people to put themselves in some pretty fucked up situations to get out of it. I know people who've entered heavily abusive relationships to gain independence from even worse parents, and while they're definitely traumatised they've also coped, and they've handwaved it with "that's just how it was for some people back then" type statements.

I can see someone accepting being used as a breeder if it meant food and safety, specially under different social conditions than we experience currently.
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Has TTW updated sense Fallout 4?
I remember just constantly having save bloat problems when I tried to play before.
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>>158471160
No matter how well they make it, TTW is always going to have bloat issues.
The games themselves always do to a degree, but with TTW you're literally running two games at once, so double the bloat, if not more.

It's just something you have to deal with to have a playable Fallout 3.
In fact, I only use it to play Fallout 3, then play New Vegas standalone.
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>>158472189
Well Id start having big framerate trouble after playing it for about 6 or so hours where its basically unplayable, even in areas I didn't have trouble before, like megaton.
I heard that was just because of save bloating even though my save file didn't get much bigger.
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>>158472383
Like I said, there's always going to be issues with TTW, but your problem sounds like it would be common enough that there should be information to help you on their website.

This is one of those things you either need to experience firsthand or have spent hours fucking around with TTW to accurately know.
I can't pretend to know how to help, but I sure hope you find your answers on their site.
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>>158410731
Drawfriend I really like your style it has a lot of personailty. thanks for dropping in the thread, I hope I see more of your stuff. [/spoiler!]
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Who started a rumor that I have a sister? I don't. I've got a brother and a mother. I would have liked to have had a sister, but generally speaking I would have liked to have been an only child even more.

Furthermore I haven't committed a violent crime since New Year's Eve 2006. Was put on probation after that. Got off three years early due to good behavior and also due to the funding to a certain program getting cut. It was one that let the disabled such as myself get probation instead of jail time.

Probably the best thing to ever happen to me since it gotten me to straighten up and fly right. Anyways, just thought I'd clear that up since apparently someone has been misinformed.
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@158475303
it was another tripfag, tripfag
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>>158475760
It was probably Buffscale or someone else who had migrated to /fog/ from /tesg/. Given that I used to shitpost in their Steam chat during a period of time where I was mentally unstable they have a fairly skewed view of me. Most of what I said during that time wasn't even true or was born of some kind of delusion brought on by my own general psychosis.

Anyways, thank you for clarifying that anon. I'll drop the name and trip for now. Have a nice day.
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this kills the thread
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>>158469001

There's the upheaval, but not the engineering. An apocalypse just resets society to zero, which in his mind means there's no reason it wouldn't rebuild itself along the same lines that it did so the first time around.
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What are some good "New Lands" mods (not TTW)? Are there any ones that let you go to California?
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>>158482748
I don't think we have any major ones, the frontier, assuming it's not shit, is coming out like next year though
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Who has the comfiest armor and why is it the NCR?
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>>158484168
>ranger patrol armor
looks terrible
no mods can save it
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>>158484168
D U S T E R
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>>158484168
Other factions can't even compete
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>>158484168
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>>158484274
Looks great on female courier desu senpai, without the dumb hat ofcourse
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>>158484365
Always thought this design was overrated garbage.
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>>158484168
APA or bust
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>>158486245
That sand texture is awful. Are you in Arabia?
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>>158486478
yeah i know its shit

need to find a new one
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>>158448624
bulk don't have the innate dt reduction.
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>>158485817
dresses cannot be comfortable.
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>>158483539
The Dog City mod isn't that, and I've heard good responses from anons regarding Beyond Boulder Dome.

Someone built LA, although I have a sneaking suspicion the person who made the mod isn't aware of Boneyard.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61437/?
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Why are you against his rule again? Why do independant fags think they can do a better job compared to this brilliant and relatively tolerant man?

>He believes in basic laws and human rights (within reason)
>Only interested in preserving and advancing the human race
>spave exploration and colonization of habitable planets within 100 years

Why do you support the inferior factions, or yourself, you greedy shitters?
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>>158484274
Hey now I actually like the armor, the hat on the other hand is terrible
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>>158491147
But I think House is the best option, anon.
I just don't like that it kills my waifu.
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I never did an NCR run.

Should I?
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>>158459753
Why are you just suggesting Divinity: Original sin as if it's a new idea?
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>>158492804
Yes, and make everything possible side with the NCR. After that, enjoy the slide show.
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>>158489489
Nigga you gay or something? Dresses are comfy as hell
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>>158491147
Never done a House run, are any companions pro-House, or are they all just kinda neutral to him?
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>>158493043
all neutral
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>>158493043
Raul, ED-E or Rex if pro Kings-NCR conflict I guess. Cass seems sorta sad from the ending slides if you choose House.
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>>158492804
>NCR
Fuck no.
Unless you're roleplaying as an edgelord who just wants to watch the world burn of course. Or a 1 INT guy.
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>>158493560
>confusing NCR and Legion
/cfog/ is really weird sometimes.
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>>158493618
Hate to break it to you fampai but if you honestly think NCR is better than Legion you're either massively naive or just plain uninformed.
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>>158493043
Veronica will leave once you blow the Brotherhood up.

Arcade is anti House, but not to the point where he gets pissy and leaves.
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>Chaosfags
Remove Legion.
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>>158493560
>>158493804
>this is what house/legion fanatics actually believe

Yeah man, just look at all those NCR endings where every faction gets enslaved, crucified, or just plain wiped out.
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>>158493804
It's okay, anon, you'll get over that phase eventually.
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>>158493618
just ignore it, people have this weird obsession with their half finished slaver faction that dies with grandpa ed, it's like 80% contrarians shitposting anyway, the other 20% are fedoralords or people grasping for straws due to a grief fueled denial that an entire faction got gutted by shitty dev time
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>>158493950
>Yeah man, just look at all those NCR endings where every faction gets enslaved, crucified, or just plain wiped out.

Enslaved: New Vegas citizens
Crucified: Legion and their supporters
Wiped Out: Khans, Enclave, Brotherhood of Steel

Only the Courier can change these outcomes to make them less severe.
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>>158493950
>>158493993
>>158494132
>being an NCR-tard in the current year of our Lord
good goyim
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>>158494198
>Only the Courier can change these outcomes to make them less severe.
That's still more than a legion-slave Courier.
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>>158494402
not a comic, but principle still applies
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>>158493937
Legion is literally the least chaotic you dip, you mean Yes Man.
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>>158494583
yes thats right "citizen", dont forget to pay your taxes now
and remember: everyone not ncr is literally hitler, trust us
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OY GEVALT ITS ANOTHER REDDING, MUH SHECKLES

REMEMBER DA 6 BILLION GOLD RESERVES
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>>158494402
>being a legioncuck in [insert current year]
1 legion denarius has been deposited into your account
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>>158484168
PA is canonically comfy as fuck:
>best protection from the dangers of the wastes
>built-in air filters and conditioning system
>waste reclaiming system
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>>158494751
>legion has no taxes
>legion, the faction based on forced homogeneity, isn't xenophobic
tip top kekkers legionslut, enjoy being a gay buttboi or cannonfodder
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>>158495318
>unironically using the word "xenophobic"
jesus christ i bet you support shillary as well
do you spend much time telling people not to talk to your wife's son like that?
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>>158495582
>getting triggered by a single word
This is just embarrassing now.
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>>158495582
>spelling it out as "everyone not us is evil" is ok
>using the proper word is bad
ok, I know you guys are just in it for (you)s but this is just pathetic
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>>158494587
Yes Man is neutral
NCR is lawfags
Legion is wurld of str
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>>158495819
>NCR is lawfags
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>>158496125
When the NCR comes to tokyo, the angels will side with them.
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>>158495819
>Yes Man
>neutral
If by neutral you mean gay cop-out and retard-proofing mechanic, sure.
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>>158496125
there's valid arguments against them you know, why do you bother shitposting when those would get you more (you)s and contribute to the discussion?
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>>158496290
Well, house is neutral as well
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>>158496290
>>158496364
>yesman
>chaotic neutral
>house
>lawful neutral
there
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>>158496562
Yes-Man is unquestionably chaotic, but it can be anything from good to evil, easily.

DnD alignments are shit, though.
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>>158496562
>Chaotic neutral
>Lawful neutral
I'm working off SMT alignments
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>>158496562
>>158496771
Yes-Man is always chaotic.
House is always lawful.
NCR ranges lawful evil to neutral good depending on courier choices.
Legion ranges lawful evil to that guy depending on if Sallow is alive.
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>>158354549
Face wrap desu. Gives it that old timey ranger feel.
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>>158498027
House is more of a true neutral. "The guy hired me so I'm working for him, alright.
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>>158498253
For a House-run courier, yeah, you're right.

I was thinking more of the man himself as a faction, very law and contract-focused.
>The White Gloves are eating people again? Breach of their contract, I don't care what you do with them.

Though I suppose he can also be neutral at times when pragmatism demands.
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>>158498994
Oh right, that makes sense.
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>>158355353
this game sucks
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>>158353049
Anyone else have this problem where, when trying to play Fallout 1 or 2 in the original resolution on a 1920x1080 monitor, the game gets kind of shifted to the right leaving this vertical black strip on the left side of the screen and cutting off a tiny bit of the game on the right?
It seems to happen with or without modifications like Fallout Fixt and it's fucking annoying, but fuck playing at a higher res and zooming out and not having menus fill the screen.
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>>158484168

Caesar has the comfiest armour.

Look at it. Look how snuggly it looks. Imagine just lounging in an armchair with a good book next to a lit fireplace wearing this.
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>>158503714
skirts are gay.
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House > Yes-Man >>> NCR >>> Legion
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Is there a list of all the stuff vendor-tron will rotate in and out of his inventory?
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>>158503714
But how do you go to the bathroom? How often would you need to do laundry? What about maintenance?
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>>158503714
Your courier looks like a starving vietnamese child who just remembered they have money to buy food.
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>>158503929
Good one, but the established order of factions is:
House > Legion >>>>>>(...)>>>>>> Yes Man > NCR
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>>158504608
legion is a /cfog/ meme. Everyone knows they are retarded edgelord siths.
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>>158505064
The Sith are cool though
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>>158505064
If you can stop being all bootiebusted about the muh slavery muh womenz stuff and look at what the Legion actually does and plans to do in the grand scheme of things, and the state of the Fallout world, you may find they're a much better choice than the doomed-to-fail NCR my friend.
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Cliff Briscoe's inventory isn't restocking. Anyone know a way to fix this? Only thing I have seen and haven't tried is waiting outside of his area for 3+ days. I usually stop back in Novac quite often as I use the hotel as my storage.
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>>158507215
>if you can look past a bloody dictatorship which rapes and enslaves and polices morality, then it's great.

Yeah you are right there. Who wants free choice and self-ownership.
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>>158353049
First for I am remaking the entire game for UnReal4
kill me before I start this lads
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>>158507215
>the doomed-to-fail NCR
So the doomed-to-disappear Legion is better?
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>>158507406
>rapes and enslaves
Only tribals and those actively opposing the Legion.
It's a neccessary means to an end anon. The tribals are used as an army so that civilization may flourish. If you still think "democracy" is a viable form of government in Fallout, just look at everywhere that isn't New Vegas. Or just the NCR after Tandi's autocracy.
Besides, an NCR citizen really doesn't have more choice and self-ownership than civilians in Legion territory.
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>playing legion-supporting cowboy, inspired by Erron Black
>cant trick-shot legion coins

is there a mod for pocket sand at least?
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>>158508952
Pocket sand is something you can unlock for helping the khans
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Best build/weapons for sneak sniper? Is it even worth to play a build like that? Which would be the strongest possibility?

I'm coming from Fallout 4, I have already played New Vegas once, but I don't really remember much about it.
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>>158508952
You could easily mod in coinshot as an available ammo type for revolvers famps

>>158509337
Sneak sniper is the ultimate babby mode, just do something fun like explosives m8
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>>158509337
Anti Materiel Rifle makes the game ez, unless you wanna try using the Silencer Rifle I heard it's alright but never really tried it myself.
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>>158509337
>sneak sniper
>I'm coming from Fallout 4
Why am I not surprised?
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>>158507680
Don't publish it in any place but this place if it's true and you aren't just bullshitting us.
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>>158509498
>>158509624
I remember killing almost everyone back at the NCR prison without them noticing me with the silenced .22 pistol, that was fun for me.

>>158509530
But the anti material rifle isn't silenced, right? Where do I get this silenced rifle?

Thanks for all the answers
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>>158507680
I expect nothing so anything you can come up with will be a pleasant surprise.

Good luck bud
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>>158507680
Why not recreate the entirety of The Dollars trilogy as a large quest mod for New Vegas
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>>158509973
>tfw expected nothing from Fo4 yet it still managed to disappoint
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>>158509498
>Sneak sniper is the ultimate babby mode, just do something fun like explosives m8
Explosive .50 MG - why not both?
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>>158509943
The Anti Materiel Rifle can kill anything from a fucking mile away so it doesn't really need a silencer.
Christine's Silencer Rifle can be found in the Old World Blues DLC area, or you can buy a regular old sniper rifle and put a suppressor on it.
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>>158509071
oh shit thats right.

>>158509498
Nah in MKX Erron Black throws a coin in the air and then shoots it, deflecting toward the opponent. Kind of like the 4th perk of demo expert in FO4 is supposed to work.
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>>158510406
You can still do that in New Vegas, just throw the grenade and VATS it.

If I remember right Demolition Expert in Fallout 4 only makes it do more damage.
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>>158510274
Thanks bro

>>158510217
The explosive ammo you mean? the damage of it, is changed with explosives skill like in fallout 4?

Fallout 4 was easy mode with spray and pray and demolition expert and commando.
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>>158511810
>the damage of it, is changed with explosives skill like in fallout 4?
Nope. But I believe it does crit.
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Is charisma really a dump stat in Fallout New Vegas?
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Is this a decent guide?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=130695347
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>>158510406
Switch a frag grenade's texture to that of a coin, throw the grenade that looks like a coin, and shoot it.
Coins explode when you shoot them, right?
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>>158512430
yes
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>>158512430
Yes, Obsidian was too braindead to make full use of the SPECIAL system.
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>>158513321
well it's not like there weren't a shit ton of dump stats in the first too games.

Really you can argue that everyone is too braindead to make full use of the special system. Black Isle, Bethesda and Obsidian
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>>158513715
Charisma is pretty decent in Fallout 4.
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>>158513913
Not really
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Are there any electrical long range weapons? The Arc Welder is nice for close range, but it's way too short.
Any unique arc welders?
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>>158514024
No, really, it is.
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>>158512430

It's worth investing in if you want to go pure noncombat and rely entirely on your companions, otherwise yes, it's a dump stat.
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>>158514645
>Are there any electrical long range weapons?
Tesla Cannons, LAER kinda-sorta.
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>>158515018
why is the normal tesla cannon so stupidly difficult to get in NV?
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>>158513913
only because its the only fucking check

I wouldn't hate that shit system as much if they made more use of all the new shit but they just said fuck it CHA checks and only CHA checks

>>158515249
if you're on good terms with the BOS once you gain access to their safehouse theres one in there

you could theoretically get the one at the downed vertibird with a shit ton of pulse grenades and pulse shells for any of the grenade launchers/rifles.
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>>158514993
planning to go no companions so guess it's a dump stat for me, what do you guys think about those starting stats for a sneak ranged build
Strength - 6 (7 with Implant, 8 with Spineless (OWB))
Perception - 5 (6 with implant)
Endurance - 7 (8 with implant)
Charisma - 1
Intelligence - 8
Agility - 6 (7 with implant)
Luck - 7
got those from here https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=130695347
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>>158515865
doesn't only the tesla-beaton spawn at the down vertibird?
I don't remember any other loot.
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>>158515865
Tying an interesting perk (a fucking breakthrough for Beth) to 10 CHA is also helping.

>>158516001
>literal stealth archer
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>>158516027
other loot depends on mods you're running

I think PN or Powered Power armor add a PA training holotape

i know PPA adds a unique stealth power armor
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Already tried googling, so asking here: how do I make a certain female npc speak with a certain male npc's voice (don't ask why, the more I think about it, the dumber it sounds)? I managed to port the dialogue, but it seems that I need to force the second npcs voice type on the first one for it to become audible.
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>>158516181
>other loot depends on mods you're running
Obviously, I'm not running the same mods you are.
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>>158516545
in vanilla no

just skeletons and the prototype
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>>158484365
I was really disappointed with riot gear. I expected something more practical-looking, and instead got tacticoolness and those fucking pauldrons. And it doesn't even have jeans, for fuck's sake! How do you even have a ranger armour without jeans?
>>158503714
> sitting next to a lit fireplace wearing fur
Enjoy your sudden immolation.
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>>158517954
To be fair, that courier looks really sad. Maybe this is a cry for help.
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>Tailor Maid has a maid outfit as one of the images
>No maid outfit
shit mod, would not endorse
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>>158513321
It does really seem difficult to make all of the stats useful in a logical way within the restraints they were working with, though. I mean how could you make something like Perception useful without deviating too much from the gameplay of Fallout 3?
If you made it effect accuracy, it seems like it'd make weapon skills redundant, or weapon skills would make Perception redundant, or you'd need both to hit anything and it'd be too harsh. What else could it do?

That said they still could've done better. I have no idea why they didn't make Agility affect movement speed, and they could've brought back a lot of critical failures for low Luck pretty easily, I think. You don't need to make any new assets for most of them.
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>>158503714
Is this some weird universe where the Mick and Ralph crier kills Caesar?
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Post Courier!
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>>158484168

>The qt with the beret

Is there a mod where i can have a cute ncr soldier like her??
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>>158522348
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Lonesome Road is literally bad.
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>>158522932
fucking degenerate, not even a legionfag but jesus is that some grade a degeneracy
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>>158523080
BEAR AND THE BULL
BEAR AND THE BULL
BEAR
BULL
BEARANDTHEBULL
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>>158522932
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>>158523553
DEEEEEEP
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>>158522932
And i thought my character was a degenerate for wearing a dress...
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>>158523757
You want to know what's deep Courier?

THE DIVIDEEEEEEEE
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>>158523080
>first walk into the Divide
>seen some pretty ruined areas in New Vegas and Capital Wasteland but this just fucked
>wtf even happened here
>holy shit Ulysses no one gives a fuck about, im trying to deal with these marked men and tunnelers
>hes still going on about the bear and bull
>tfw the environment was the real star of that DLC

Items were pretty cool too.
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I can't decided should i add big tits to my game?
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>>158523553
>>158523914
Boone/Ulysses would be the whiniest pair of companions, it'd be great.
>muh beret
>muh hair
>muh wife
>muh tribe
>something something bitter springs
>something something the divide
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>>158522348
>>158453004

It's really really old tho.
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>>158494198
>Paying taxes is enslavement
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>>158525179
Your really really old!
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>>158525792
My really really old what?
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>>158525792
i meant the picture anon not the character.
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>>158525940
Oh...but i literally just took >>158522348
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>>158526372
Here me go!
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realistic weapon damage mod.

yes or no?
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how do I build melee lads?

new vegas w/ jsawyer and project nevada (no rebalance component)

i posted this in the other thread and some cunt told me to come here
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Do you think Bethesda is embarrassed that Obsidian made a better Fallout game than them? Using the same exact tools, no less.
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>>158527264
Yes
I started using it like 3 playthrough a ago and i can't go back.
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>>158527557
1. Set difficulty at "very easy".
2. Invest into STR, AGI and Melee.
That's it.
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>>158358256
No, communism necessarily requires the community of women.

Like, fucking learn your shit, you're making the thread look worse than usual.
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>>158410164
I'm not sure about The Frontier, I just know it's still being made.

Fallout: The Story is dead.

You didn't ask but, Project Brazil is pretty damned close to being done. I think they just gotta rerecord some characters and implement them. I'd look out for that one some time early next year if anything.
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>>158528491
> communism necessarily requires the community of women
Many tankies would dispute this sentiment.
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>>158359259
Slavery necessarily involves objectification. You can romanticize it however you want, but you're treating a human being as an object.
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>>158527961
> Do you think Bethesda is embarrassed
If they were capable of embarrassment, they wouldn't have made Oblivion with guns in the first place.
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>>158523080

I actually liked Ulysses (that holotape where he sees the White Legs with dreds and starts freaking the fuck out was great), but I the endless combat slog was intolerable. There's a lot of reasons I play New Vegas, but it's not for the fighting.

As far as I'm concerned, Lonesome Road is NV's Operation Anchorage.
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What's the use in buying a car when you can't buy gasoline? -Line? -Line? -Line?

>FalloutNV.exe has stopped working
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>>158521140

Just my attempt at making an Asian female in unmodded New Vegas.
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>>158353049
>make a sneak character in newvegas
>one forced action sequence
okay whatever, its just one
>another one
Wow, lame
>another one
Okay, I think i got through all of them at least, otherwise why would they make stealth an option?
>ANOTHER ONE
okay I quit. I hated how scripted this game is.
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>>158360285
It's possible for a female to be misogynist.

I did a run with a girl who thought she was just so flat-out better than everyone, and especially other women, that they just weren't worth her time.

In fairness, she was able to make walking-fire tactics with a BAR actually work, so she might've had a point.
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>>158529262
Thinking you're better than women isn't misogynist
Thinking you're better than women BECAUSE they're women is misogynist , which you'd be right, you ARE better than women because they're women.
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>>158528957
Ulysses could have been good if he didn't keep forcing that whole "you're totally to blame for something that you didn't even really do, much less intent to" thing down the player's throat. LR's whole plot is "the Divide is no more, time to bomb NCR", so either Ulysses should have been much fucking chiller towards the PC, or the plot made actually personal.
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>>158360764
How to spot a virgin in ten seconds:
> >waaaaah women get raped
> They legit probably have the comfiest lives if they can move on from psychological traumas
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>>158360764
>any of that
>good
I really, really hope you're not that fucking delusional. I especially hope you're not delusional enough to think you'd survive in such a society.
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>>158529438
Oh thank god, here I was thinking I was better than women because they're men.

What kind of fucking semantics game are you playing, boy?
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>>158425447
What? It happens all the time. Like, it's not a guaranteed thing, but it's almost an exact 50-50 chance.
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>>158529570

how would you fix Ulysses?

I loved his build up throughout the DLC's but i did not fucking understand his motivation when I actually met him
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>>158426865
>shitting on my cut-rate robot enforced Flux State

Get fucked fascist, we emancipatory communes now
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>>158425447
> Autocratic regimes don't spontaneously combust just because the leader is succeeded.
t. someone who hasn't a clue about history
See also: Alexander the Great and his Diadokhoi, Oda Nobunaga, Peppin the Short and Carl the Great, Peter the Great, various other the Greats, the USSR post Stalin's death, etc.
>>158530283
> i did not fucking understand his motivation when I actually met him
As I said, his motivation is literally "I liked the Divide, but it's gone now, so I must bomb NCR in revenge, regardless of how the Courier relates to it". It's exactly as stupid as it sounds.
> how would you fix Ulysses?
Either give him a compelling reason to send those rockets while needing the Courier to be present during the act or replace the rockets with something else, like a cure for the vague condition he mentioned would affect the Courier sooner or later for having been in the Divide that doesn't get referenced at any other time in the game.
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>>158451535
Foucault wasn't saying that rape is a fucking trivial affair, you dullard. Christ, it's like talking with people who think Lacan meant women aren't real.
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>>158530283

Originally in Van Buren he was going to follow the player around throughout the main quest and be obsessed with them, but when that fell through Avellone tried to salvage the idea - didn't work too well.

I think the DLC borked things with the informed backstory, because by the time you're doing Lonesome Road you've probably got a great idea of what your courier is like, and a headcanon of who they were formerly, through questing. Then Ulysses tells you that you did a thing that may conflict completely with the character you've built up.

As for how to fix it: the most significant, and sole, player-decision based moments in the whole DLC is when you pick where to nuke. It would've been more interesting if they'd focused the Lonesome Road story around what should be done with the Hopeville missiles, with Ulysses being an ideologically torn overlord running this ruined hellhole of a military outpost after defecting from the Legion. A little Apocalypse Now-ish without being too over the top.
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>>158456441
>>158457201
I would go with one of those instead. Honestly, after Generation Kill, I kinda can't associate that song with anything else. But that's just me, you do you my man.
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>>158530578
Which faction has the most Christians in it?
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>>158451535
> Allow me to put my Focault hat on
Might as well have name-dropped de Beauvoir or Luxemburg.
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>>158531467
The Enclave/BoS, if only because they're the only "real" Old World remnants. A reminder that the Courier hasn't even heard of Christianity by the time of HH.
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>>158456441

Ain't No Grave would be even better.
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>>158491147
Futurism is just protofascism dressed up in nice-nice language and longing for some vague scientific quantification of human interaction.

I would rather have an imperfect republic with a chance at change than a dictatorship with nebulous, unclear definitions of 'progress'. At the very least, in the republic I could (for the most part) complain and moan without getting shot.
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>>158511989
> sneak critical with explosive .50 MG
I regularly manage to do >1000 damage with that. Is there anything stronger in the entire game?
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wasnt expecting to find !notCass in black rock cave
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>>158531728
Welp, time to lead a crusade in the name of god and country.

But first to go find a Templar power armor mod.
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>>158496291
The valid arguments all come down to some five-times-removed form of the Bolsheviks telling American diplomats 'and you are lynching negroes'. The Republic has serious structural issues and an imperialist attitude that has dire implications for the future, but they have a syndicalist structure which at the very least could one day change its domineering attitudes. The Legion's entire existence is predicated on conflict being not only inevitable, but desirable. That is a non-starter for a national identity, an international policy, or frankly for an effective military force.
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>>158532289
> m-muh mediaeval stormtroopers fantasy
Can you wankers choose whether you want to be reactionaries or fascists?
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>>158532014

Do you mean protofascism by proximity to the OG Italian fascists? The key elements of futurism, as described by the drafters of its manifesto, were abandonment of traditionalism, reckless unbridled innovation, and contempt for femininity. House doesn't really fit any of those bills. If you mean nationalist corporatism, which IS what House represents, that's not actually equitable with Fascism by itself (part of a miscontextualized quotation).

The main issues with House are that he's terrified of economic competition (through extreme taxation) and that really thinks he knows everything just because he's extremely good with predictions and statistics - like a narcissistic Hari Seldon.
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>>158532341
> they have a syndicalist structure
Wait, what? First time I heard of it.
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>>158437263
>sick legion based armor
>have to nuke legion to get it
why
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>>158528642
Tankies are retarded. Literally every communist movement that has seen any amount of success on the world stage has involved the community of women.
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>>158532626
> nationalist corporatism
> not actually equitable with Fascism by itself (part of a miscontextualized quotation)
You do know that Mussolini himself defined his ideology as, ignoring the semantics, nationalist corporatism, right?
>>158532748
Sure, and the USSR was one of the first countries in the world to emancipate women, which is doubly impressive considering how women had it in Tsarist Russia, but you can't just ignore the existence of tankies, you know?
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>>158415292
Just going to add my own two cents and advice you ignore any modpack with Willow in it.
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>>158532514
You speak American when you talk to me Yuropoor
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>>158531875
>>158531460
It's really hard at the end because all of the songs end up being "somewhat" representative of the story and the character.
And yes i know the Courier is not god but he does his job basically, during all the story he choses which die and which survive, some parts are representatives of the people in las vegas and the wasteland, siners, degenerates, etc.
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>>158532626
This is a fair point and I concede it. I still think he's a shitlord, though.

>>158532649
You know what, I'll concede this too. For some reason I conflated the caravan groups with their workers, but actually New Vegas sort of proves they're very much run like businesses today rather than the confederations that syndicalists proposed.
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>>158533116

I also think he's a shitlord. People who think they know everything are dangerous - especially when they're actually quite intelligent.
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>>158532916
I can try to ignore them, by God.
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>>158532626
> he's terrified of economic competition
You're talking about the man who single-handedly subjugated all the competition he ever had without utilising political resource. He wants to put taxes high because it gives him the feeling of control over others, not because he's afraid of competition.
>>158533116
> New Vegas sort of proves
But it was evident since 2?
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>>158533210
I sort of have the same problem with House that I do with Neil deGrasse Tyson in that regard. It's all well and good and eye-catching to suggest something like House's ideal New Vegas, or Mr. Tyson's silly 'Rationalia' idea, but they're incredibly dangerous precisely because of that allure, and how damn-foolish it is to assume that people will just work that way and go along with it all.

Admittedly House does have an army of death robots to hold up his end of things, but...well we KNOW how bad that can go.
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>>158446661
steal bottlecaps 1 piece at a time in the first city. This will net you 10 exp each, with an added exp bonus if you do it without closing the menu. You can be level maxed before you leave shady sands by doing this.
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>>158533278
>But it was evident since 2?
My memory's just batting zero out of a hundred tonight. Yeah, you're right.
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>>158533034
Fixed!
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>>158532916

I do know that - but House's Vegas doesn't match the model of corporatism in traditional fascism. In Vegas under House, his corporation IS the state rather than him controlling multiple corporations in co-operation with the state. It's much more like a dictatorship, especially because House doesn't require that his citizens pledge loyalty, heart and soul, to him. They just need to pay up.

I guess I'm splitting hairs here. If House formed a state office governing all of the local businesses and began forging a RobCo national brand and identity, Vegas would start to resemble a fascist state - and it wouldn't take much for him to do that once he had his full securitron army online.
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>>158533469
Why not just use cheats?
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>>158533852
Because the intolerable grind is your punishment for choosing to fag out the game's mechanics.
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>>158533616
fuck off buffquad
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>>158533820
> House's Vegas doesn't match the model of corporatism in traditional fascism
I wasn't arguing that, only the definition of fascism.
> his corporation IS the state
Except that the line between corporations cooperating with the state and corporations being the state is so thin, it boils down entirely to semantics. Again, I'm not saying that House is literally a fascist, though he's very close, only arguing for the definition of fascism as an ideology.
>>158533929
laff
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>>158534131
No.
You can hear ghostly moans near any grave anywhere. Can't remember whether it's tied to the time of day or not.
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>>158534031

Hmm, ok - I'm with you that House is definitely on that bend. I suppose I tend to stick pretty closely to the original definition as drafted by Mussolini, because the word "fascism" tends to get put into all kinds of bleary contexts.
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reminder
>The independent ending is “free” with all of the consequences that come with a weak/non-existent government. Each sub-faction within New Vegas is free to conduct themselves as they wish, often coming into conflict with other sub-factions. As there’s no higher governing or law enforcement body (exception: Securitrons), it’s pretty hard for things to run smoothly.
"muh diplomatic independent vegas" is non canon fanfiction, confirmed by sawyer himself.
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>>158534226
> I suppose I tend to stick pretty closely to the original definition as drafted by Mussolini, because the word "fascism" tends to get put into all kinds of bleary contexts.
A thousand times this… though I still end up using the word way more than I need to, since corporations controlling the state is pretty much the explicit purpose of capitalist system. Ah, well, at least know it when I see it approach never fails.
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>>158533852
Because it's a fun way to get a build started right off the bat due to how short 1 is. I always find that by the time i've got my signature weapons and am proficient enough to use them, i've already found the waterchip and have moved onto fighting the master. makes the game feel pretty stale when the first 60% is the same every time.
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>>158534031
>>158534226
Is it at all relevant to the discussion to bring up the hard ideological bent some of the major companies took upon states adopting fascist or almost-fascist ideologies, or is this discussion largely concluded?
I'm primarily calling to mind the various memorandums and missives exchanged between Krupp, Messerschmidt, Mauser, etc. and the Nazi regime, but I'm sure I also have notes about Italy's inter-bureau interactions around here as well.
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>>158534383
> have an invincible robot army
> have essentially hand-crafted all of the communes across the Mojave
> can't put one to the other
I seriously fail to see how the fanon ending isn't inevitable, but then again, it would just be House-lite.
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>>158534383

I think that making the Independent ending slides "bittersweet" would've helped, even with good karma.

Sawyer mentioned somewhere (I wish I'd bookmarked all of his good blog posts) that Yes Man was supposed to represent the possibility of synthesis that Caesar discussed - you get the Bear side, the Bull side, and if neither of them appeal to you as-is you take what you prefer of both and risk putting it into policy yourself. So, at least from Sawyer's perspective, Yes Man was supposed to be the "compromise" way out as well as the failsafe if you fucked up some quests. Compromise is pretty much defined as being bittersweet - "when nobody gets what they want, for the better."
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>>158534824
If house could barely do it on his own with his 200+ years of diplomatic experience, why should some literally who bumfuck mailman be able to do it?
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>>158534951
Because that mailman commands hordes of robots that shoot bullets and rockets?
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>>158534951
>>158535047
The mailman commands the respect of the Wasteland, and respects it right back.
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>>158532265
>hello!
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>>158534951
>bumfuck mailman
>walking cyborg tank with an orbital weapons platform by endgame
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>>158535105
Just because everyone idolizes the courier you think they'll all just magically get along? You think that because "oh ok guys the courier said so, funs over i guess" that the khans will stop harassing the NCR? or that the powder gangers will stop looting? Or that the brotherood/boomers will stop being overzealous freaks? Never gonna happen.
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>>158534951
If you remember, House spent most of his life keeping his butthole firmly plugged with his thumb, so forget about his experience. As to diplomacy: the man's based on Howard Hughes; need I say more? His entire approach to negotiation is flexing his muscles until the other party agrees that they don't want to see him actually use them. Absolutely everything that he accomplished without throwing robots at it involved using agents to do his bidding. House is a great accountant, but he's definitely not autocrat material. Besides, the Courier can have actual respect instead of reluctant cooperation.
>>158535298
> not wiping out the Khans, BoS and PD
> implying that the Boomers are a threat to anyone who doesn't wander into their territory, or that they could be a threat to the robot army if they decide to expand
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>>158535497
>hurr the courier can unite the entire wasteland
>except the factions he can't I killed everyone who didn't get along because i'm diplomatic guys
?
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>>158535679
I never claimed that everyone in the Mojave can be friends, only that the Mojave under the Courier can do better than under either NCR or especially House.
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>>158535760
>do exactly what house & the ncr does
>but don't worry guys i'm different from house or the ncr
seriously what is the fucking point of going indepedent if you're just going to be the biggest hypocrite in the world and do exactly what you claim to be fighting against
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>>158535875
> if you aren't friends with absolutely everyone, you're as bad as House or Kimball
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>>158535990
>annex the whole of vegas
>force everybody to unite under you or die
>even kill the exact same people house and ncr kill
>but don't worry guys i'm different from those bad governments
?
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>>158536040
> Stalin and Roosevelt both waged war against and occupied Germany
> therefore, Stalin and Roosevelt are the same
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>>158536176
>changing the topic
>showing a scenario that isnt even relatable
your idea of independence would be more like if someone walked into germany one day, shot hitler in the face, then followed hitler's plans to the letter while taking country of germany, and all the while saying "don't worry guys we're not nazis anymore." It makes no sense.
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>>158529570

I'm honestly not sure Ulysses really wanted the courier to feel guilty (even if Ulysses resents the player, whether he realizes it or not). I think he just wanted to impress upon the player that they are a person of influence, and that they as a courier can shape nations and affect many lives even without meaning to.

Ulysses is fixated on the concept of one person deciding the fate of entire nations and wants to impress that upon the player (even if in a very roundabout way).
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>>158536347
> followed hitler's plans to the letter
Exactly how do you follow either House's or NCR's plans in the independent ending?
> w-well, you remove all the problem makers, that makes you Hitler
No.
>>158536391
He was very fucking ineloquent if that was the case.
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>>158534221

That doesn't mean it's not haunted, it just means that ALL graves are haunted.
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>>158536538
I'm sorry did you even play the fucking game? The questline for independent vegas and house vegas are literally exactly the fucking same. If you side with yes man, you're filling out houses plans to the letter.
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>>158536538
>He was very fucking ineloquent if that was the case.

NOBODY is claiming, has claimed, or will ever claim that Ulysses is a clear or direct speaker, Anon.
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>>158536641
House's plan is very broad strokes. It's literally "deal with these and those people, also make sure the NCR doesn't hate us". By that logic you could say that anyone who would have rescued Germany from the hyperinflation crisis would have been following Hitler's plan.
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>>158536538

Avellone dialogue that worked in Torment, because it was based on D&D and you expect that kind of shit in a fantasy game, did not work in New Vegas at all.
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>>158536996
Now you're just straight out denying things. Houses questline is literally, LITERALLY, the exact same as yes mans. You can't deny it.
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>Target DT x 10.00
FUG
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>>158537052
1. You actually have more freedom with Yes Man.
2. I am not denying the what of it, but disputing the how and the why.
>>158537174
Is this from a mod?
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>>158537212
Cryo rounds effect from PN
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blooppity blop, i eat poop
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>>158537698
Howdy.
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>>158537052

You are wrong. Yes Man allows you to keep the Brotherhood of Steel alive and ignore the Boomers and the Strip families. It also points you in the direction of the Khans, again giving you freedom in how you want to deal with it.

You shouldn't talk about questlines you obviously haven't played. You particularly shouldn't act arrogant about your (lack of) knowledge of questlines you haven't played.
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>>158537910
Easy, Pete.
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>>158522348
Ass
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>>158537912
You shouldn't hop in on conversations you aren't a part of you dumb little shit. In the particular instance we were discussing, they HAD killed the brotherhood of steel, and they HADN'T ignored the boomers and strip families. I wasn't talking in general. you shouldn't act arrogant about things you lack knowledge in buddy
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Fresh bread?
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>>4 days of fucking around with files in fallout 4
>>finally fucking got it booted up
>>console just died, first time on pc version
>>using laptop on lowest settings
>>Motherfucking STILL looks better than console graphics
Holy fuck lads. I thought i'd never get it going.
What are some first time mod reccomendations? like animation idles, weapon packs. body sliders. anything must have for first time. illl be delving deep into the stickys list tonight.
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>>158542004
Wrong thread lads. my bad.
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>>158536618
Maybe it means Courier got weak psyker abilities after the Benny affair. Or maybe (s)he already had those. Or maybe it's just a kinda silly easter egg.
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>>158529162
I tried sneaking about in vanilla NV a few days ago. I was surprised how unforgiving it was for a game that's practically a mod of a modern Beth game.
If I got within like, I don't know, 10 or 20 feet of a Deathclaw with it's back turned to me I would be instantly detected while crouch-walking, I assume human NPCs don't have such high Perception/awareness, not having as sensitive smell or hearing as a lot of animals probably would.
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>>158543560
deathclaws have like 7+ PER

sneak doesn't mean shit unless you're a good deal away, have maxed sneak and or a stealthboy
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>>158353049
post stories

>sneak into hidden valley ranch to destroy it on order of caesar
>previously i had completed the entire questline and became idolized
>set us up the bomb and get the hell outta there while stealthed
>hear base explode and am immediately halted by an npc who has this to tell me and gives me some goodies
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>>158546931
Did you finish the job?
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>>158549381
i didn't have the heart to
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>>158505064
>siths
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>>158551595
>letting her live as an outcast with no home and her entire family dead
Damn your courier is a sick son of a bitch
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>>158541304
>DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL

You weren't talking in general until you started making clearly generalized statements, i.e.:

>The questline for independent vegas and house vegas are literally exactly the fucking same. If you side with yes man, you're filling out houses plans to the letter.
>Houses questline is literally, LITERALLY, the exact same as yes mans.

In these posts, your arguments weren't that that Anon's Yes Man was exactly like House, but that "the" Yes Man questline is exactly the same as House. This is most clearly shown by your statement that you are filling out all of House's plans to the letter "if" you side with Yes Man. If you were talking about a specific, already laid-out instance, you wouldn't have said "if".

Don't get angry at everyone else for your fuckup.
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>>158551595
capture her, one of Caesar's elite should set an example and get married
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>>158556795
>get married
>Caesar tells you to pass your wife around the fort
>literally get cucked by the entire Legion
I can see now why /cfog/ likes Legion so much.
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>>158557327
>Caesar tells you to pass your wife around the fort
y would he do that tho
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>>158546931
Looks like an angel who has come to Courier to made him rethink his worthless existence as Caesar's dog.
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>>158396296
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>>158557524
Females are for breeding.
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>>158558084
>implying their arent favored concubines among officers and other high ranking legionnaires, as their was in Sparta

>implying Caesar is personally involved in all affairs between his staff and the slaves

he probably wouldn't even know she existed
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>>158558701
>>158558084

also Cass mumbles about how she doesn't want to be a Legion wife, and Melissa says the best she could become would be a Legion wife.

we dont really know if that means communal wives, like in Sparta, or individual wives, like in Rome.
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Can I just blow up warheads if I see one? I mean it wouldn't lock any content, right?
Also containers at barracks are safe?
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>>158559432
you should be good
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>>158559432
I think I vaguely remember watching MaTN blow up a warhead or two, he had to be far away to avoid damage though.
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>>158557687
>replying to a two day old post
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>>158561841
He just wanted to share his photo.
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>NVAC pops up
>game crashes anyway
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>>158522348
i didn't mean for him to become a cowboy but it just turned out like that. kinda liking him.
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One post off bump limit? Sure would be silly if someone wasted that last one.
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>>158565414
wew
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>>158565414
Goddamnit I am such a failure.
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New

>>158565732
>>158565732
>>158565732
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>>158507680
>using and engine for FPS games for anything other than FPS

underaged
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>>158522368
Its pretty much just the deserter who shows up in the Vicki & Vance
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>>158440052
You can it's a real park
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