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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

Last Thread
>>158278227
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I'M CHAOS JERRY AND I'M LOVIN EVERY MINUTE OF IT
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Strange Journey is the best SMT game ever made.
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white were right
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>>158393467
Not until they kill the Amala Network
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>>158393447
Nope.
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>>158393467
antiquated meme
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SMT Nine was the best SMT ever
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>>158393467
Casuals can't be right.
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>>158393562
>implying it's a meme
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>>158393635
What kind of faggot would willingly kill a girl that loves him? That's just incomprehensible.
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Macca Beam.
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>>158394439
>No Macca Beam when you fuse her
Disappointing.
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>Look up smt wallpapers
>it's nothing but persona
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>>158394712
There are not too many.
I like to use the official art of the games; there are also a few wallpapers in the booru.

This is the reason why referring to the series by their respective name is important.
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>>158394439

Wastrel beam
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>>158395351
Soul Hackers Neko a shit
Debisama Neko a best
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>>158395464
Soul Hackers neko is barely used at all. It's either the debisama or nocturne ones.
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Is nine playable if you don't know Japanese?
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post the most innocent MC
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What are the ways to increase a fusion accident for Famed/Undead/Zealot? I remember reading something like having the demons be sick.
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>>158398440
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>>158398784
Sick fusion ingredients, Sick Nanashi, at least one fused demon being a Foul.

For vanilla IV, replace Sick with Dead. Flynn status is irrelevant.
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>>158398440
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Your daily reminder that having friends prevents you from practicing the dharma. Leave those dead weights behind, and rely only on yourself, and dharma.
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>>158398964
Thanks. I wonder why the change from dead to sick? How did people discover this? I feel theres alot of tiny details like this i just dont know about
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>>158399298
But Dharma is my friend.
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>>158399298
>we could have gotten a qt trap buddha instead of a fat smug asshole
Does anyone have the illustrations/interview with the proto designs for Maetreya?

Also why does he suck so bad when compared to the other Divine Power fusions?
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>>158400156

desu I think his design was decent. The problem is that the game decided anti friends meant asshole aligned. So he didn't come off like a buddha, but like a bad butchering of one as interpreted by someone who never even heard of buddhism. The entire divine powers were kind of just weird. I struggle to beleive that all these gods were down with krishna's fusion plot, when most religions aren't anything like that.
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>>158400380
>desu I think his design was decent.
Don't get me wrong, I like Maetreya's design. It's just mechanically he stinks compared to Odin and Krishna.
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Drew this yesterday for anon in drawthread, thought might as well post it here
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>>158393447
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>>158399726
It was probably from the complete guide.

There's even shit about fiends in that thing from what I've heard.
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>>158400795
SMTG would you fuck Seraph?

Or would you let yourself be fucked?
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>>158400782
Is that a reference to something?
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>>158401108
Panel from jojo
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>>158400795
I agree that DDS2 is the best DDS game ever made, but sadly it is not SMT.
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>>158400782
I really really like this image. Mind if I save it?
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>>158401151
That's really cool then.
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>JOIN WALTER
>NO IDEA WHERE TO GO
>"MAYBE I SHOULD KILL TAYAMA"
>HE'S NOT THERE
>FUCK
>DECIDE TO EXPLORE THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEARCH FOR CLUES ON WHAT THE FUCK TO DO
>ARRIVE AT HONGANJI
>CUTSCENE PLAYS
>TALK TO LILITH
>TELLS ME TO GO TO CAMP ICHIGAYA

WHY THE FUCK DOES THIS GAME EXPECT ME TO KNOW WHERE THAT IS

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I HAVE TO EXPLORE THE ENTIRE MAP AGAIN HOLY FUCK
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>>158401396
>Didn't use the demon googling app
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>>158401396
>Join Walter
>Don't know he wants to see Lilith again

???
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>>158399298
You and I both know Dharma and Greg was created by ABC to recapture the viewership of the Midwest/East Coast nightly news/GMA mainstream that otherwise would've cried that they sold out to the occult with Sabrina the Teenage Witch's at-the-time stellar numbers.

What you call "self-reliance" smells a lot like conformity and not rocking the boat.
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For smt4a: where can i go quick so some demons can fuck me up and get me Sick? Trying to do famed fusions but the hardest fucking thing is getting sick.
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I don't really know how damage mechanics of magics work, Are multi-hit skills better or worse than single hit ones?
Like if If i have to choose between floral gust and Zandyne, which one is better on Nanashi?
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>>158401949
Doesn't mad gasser get you sick?

wherever the fuck he is

Ichigaya?
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>>158401949

I think Zhen casts Pandemic bomb but I'd make use of the Analyze feature. That shows you data on enemy demons
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guys for a mag build, 100 agi and dex are enough right? i can just pump everything to mag then?
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>>158402070
Shibuya, actually, but that runs the risk of getting your ass Macca Beamed.

Zhens in Sky Tower are a lot safer from a cost standpoint.
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>>158402291
fug i mean lu not dex
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>>158402010
>I don't really know how damage mechanics of magics work, Are multi-hit skills better or worse than single hit ones?

Suppose they're both the same strength (Severe)

The single hit magic attack is stronger than the party wide hit (hits all). However depending on the move the multihit (2-4 attacks etc.) MAY be stronger IF there's only one enemy. It may be stronger if it hits it's maximum amount.

Also remember every possible hit is a chance to miss and lose turns

For Hordes the hit all spells are better because they hit multiple times
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how do you get to camp ichigaya in iv. google sucks dick
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>>158402429
200 luck if it isn't your main stat, and if it isn't your main stat then you are playing the game wrong.
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>>158402604
North of Shibuya you fucking retard
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>>158402604

Warp to Shibuya and exit and go directly north through the tunnel
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>>158402712
>>158402717
that was the first thing I tried. my game is only loading the police station
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>>158402676
oh fug, how's my build looking? should i stick to 3ma/1ag/lu forever?
Nanashi Lv55
St 37
Dx 54
Ma 205
Ag 98
Lu 92
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>>158402865
There's a fucking tunnel there and if you go with Walter you fight Koga Saburo
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Reminder that

/r/megaten >>>> /smtg/ay
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>>158403080
I know. I'm standing right on the tunnel but it's not appearing
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>>158403139
Hello beadman
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>>158403002
3 lu/1 mag/1 ag from now on.
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>>158403002
>should i stick to 3ma/1ag/lu forever?

100-130 is fine
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>>158403080
nevermind. for some reason reloading my save file fixed it
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>>158403337
There you go my boyo
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>>158403298
Why do you have support skills like debilitated and luster candy on your Nanashi?
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>>158403491
So I can deal out Big Boy damage
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>>158403579
But wouldn't it be better if you had support demons with those skills and focus your Nanashi on attacking and concentrating?
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>>158403579
>22k
It's limit breaking and autism gearing all over again
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Just read on /v/ that you can fight Lucifer in nocturne at level 50-60, and that the jap who speedrun can do it even lower than that any link ?
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>>158399298
You know it's funny he supports the Powers when their goal makes humans dependent on them, while Dagdas is the one where humans are not held down by earthly attachments.
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>>158403906
We've been through this anon. Fatlus can't into writing.
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>>158400380
The fusion is the afterlife with Krishna as a Mini-Axiom that then distributes humans equally amongst all Gods.
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>>158403762
I was mostly joking with that response

That was Cleopatra's damage and it was possible because we boosted +2 -3 asap

I specifically kept them there because I knew they would be necessary for the fight against steven

Because that fight can drag I had to spread mp costs for resource management and in case one of my demons got knocked the fuck out. Can't be caught without +2,-2

I didn't need all damage types just what my other demons were dealing to take advantage of the possible random weakness
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>>158404028
Well Mitra-Buddha also represents Christian Salvation, unlike YHVH who embodies the DESIRE for Salvation.

Just like Mecha Jesus Cup in P5.
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>>158404238
Fair enough.
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>>158403762
>>158404238

Also I haven't checked recently but when I was lvl 99 Cleopatra was dealing greater damage than I was because of her pleromas and affinity
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>>158404353
I prefer salvation from toilets.
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he's about to have a strange journey on her ass
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>>158405359
wew
those eyes though
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Hoy.
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>>158405687
No
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>>158405359
>No pics of him having a strange journey in the games heroine Arthur's databanks
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>>158404438
Base power determines the strength of a skill. Judgement Light is good, but it pales compared to Dazzle Ray, whose base power is most likely 210. Multi-hit moves are also a factor. It's why Andalucia is better than Akasha Arts despite both having the same base power
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So the Divine Powers mentioned splitting up the souls amongst themselves, but then Krishna says he wants to do something that sounds similar to Shijima or Instrumentality. Was Krishna only going to do this to his portion of the souls, or was he tricking the rest of the Divine Powers?
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>>158405359
I forgot her lipstick
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>>158405359
>>158406762
>loved Asherah so much
>spent hours trying to fuse skills into samael and mithra-buddha for angel and titania
>managed to get perfect skill set for her
>stat is still subpar
>end up caving in and bought incense dlc to pump her stats

It was fucking worth it
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Is the damage formula for SMTIVA known?
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I can see the 4 archangels but I don't get where the fuck is my nigga Jonathan
Did he turn in the fucking snake?
If so holy fuck, fusion is a bitch
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>>158406762
Even better!
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>>158406572
See >>158404054
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Is he "our" guy?
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What was the distibution for the best melee build in 4 again?
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>>158407404
Where do you think the tits came from?
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>>158410239
>her pasties/underbreastplate now look like a face
FUCK YOU
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>>158410478
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>>158410086
>couldn't keep the waifufag team on check

nah
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>>158410526
He's but one man, Anon.
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>>158410526
Is the team on Apocalypse different from the one on IV?
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hey
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>>158411069
hoy
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>>158411069
hoy
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>>158405359
>>158406762
Hope you got that Haru Belial request saved somewhere. Leave it to next year or when you have shittons more time than you do now.
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>>158411106
>>158411195
hee-hey
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How do we fix law?
>lowest amount of demons
>hasn't had a good mainline ending in decades
>reps are the same compared to other two
>most retarded of three
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>>158412046
There's no fixing law, Jonathan was the "sympathetic hero" a la Yoshio, who immediately went full Jihad after getting back from Alternate Tokyo

At this point, Law hero would have to be a moe teenage anime girl to sway willing followers
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>>158412046
Add more demons, give it a good ending, give it a good rep, and make it less retarded.

All you have to do to make Law not shit is make whoever's running it genuinely benevolent and also not genocidal. But Law and Chaos might be on their way out, based on the way they were treated in Apocalypse. Then again, Nocturne almost totally threw out the traditional Law and Chaos dichotomy and it came back from that.
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>>158412274
Would have made more sense if Jonathan fused with the archangels before they started spewing shit about Great Abaddon. He didn't really have a reason to be cool with destroying Tokyo.
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>>158412519
But anon you know what the Samurai code says, Angels know best
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>>158412567
Does it actually say that? Don't Samurai in IV take issue with the fact that they're getting orders from the monastery, and in Apocalypse that they're taking orders from crazy angels?
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>>158412046
Add more fucking angels with new designs/bring back old ones.

Hell base them on Majin Tensei II sprites that were fucking awesome or use Devil Children for all I care. Even Angel Beelzebu.
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>>158412680
It doesn't say that. In fact soe of the rules contadict each other as K can point out.
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>>158412680
I jest. The samurai code was passed down from Akira, who begrudgingly dealt with the angels. Johnathan is just a bootlicker.
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ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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>>158413706
I AM THE BUG INSIDE YOU
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>>158405359
Damn anon, that's pretty good but you forgo-
>>158406762
Good. I love it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mxih6yRPng
Can we get some groove going?
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God damn Nocturne's regular boss themes are so shit.
The midboss theme is already bland as shit but as soon as theb oss theme comes up and I hear WE'LL SACRIFICE THE SON OF HEAVEN I want to rip out my ears.

Pretty much every other boss theme is top tier, but holy shit did they drop the ball hard with the ones you hear the most.
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>>158414130
>no chinese roommates allowed
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>>158414307
You just have shit taste sensei
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>>158414403
Your opinion differs from mine.
I will have to kill you.
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[spoiler
>Asahi revived
>Dagda not a total dickhead
]>Walter and Johnathon finally back to normal.
>The power of friendship and companionship defeated God. [/spoiler]
Is there a better feeling in any other SMT game.
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>>158414565
Going Massacre is better
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>>158414565
way to fuck up everyone dude
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>>158414565
apologies for the spoiler typos. One too many rum & cokes
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>>158414565
Yeah.
Raidou beating up a giant mech with just a sword and a gun.
>inb4 Raidou isn't SMT
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>>158414565
>Is there a better feeling in any other SMT game.
Yeah, there is. It's called "not spinning the oldest and shittiest fucking trope in the book". Holy shit, mainline sunk hard.
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>>158414664
Sorry. Kinda wish 4chan had a feature that could edit posts.
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>>158414897
ctrl+s
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>>158414632
no it's not
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>>158414889
To be fair, it IS optional. What would you have done differently?
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>>158414965
HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK
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>>158414990
YHVH will come back in Bonds. In Massacre there is no chance for him to come back.
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>>158414965
Oh my god. Thank you. Been doing it the hard way for years
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>>158414565
Surprisingly enough, what triggered me the most was the John-a-thon
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>>158415015
Make a game with a story that's not garbage, I guess.
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>>158415284
What do you want from me im 4 drinks deep here fuck you
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>>158415408
You misunderstand. Or maybe I used the wrong buzzword. It actually made me laugh, silly.
>Only 4
You're Law aren't you?
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>>158415334
not the whole game, the Bonds ending buddy
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>>158415408
hoy~
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>>158415504
Wrong
casualry neutral.
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>>158415659
You're good then.
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>>158415135
I don't know if there's no chance, but it's certainly a lot less likely, and even if he does come back humans aren't what they used to be so it doesn't matter.

YHVH aside, some god will eventually come along to fuck with humanity for their own godly reasons in Bonds world. In Massacre world, the term god is basically meaningless.
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>>158415135
That doesn't matter to me much
Flynn acting like a whackjob killed any pull massacre had over bonds for me
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>>158415504
Is laugh a buzzword?
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>>158415852
>end results don't matter, only my fee-fees
Fucking Bondsfags.
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>>158415852
>Implying Flynn wasn't superior in Massacre
A GOD STANDS BEFORE YOU, CLEAR A PATH
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>>158415870
No, I meant triggered.
Or are you implying that since I said, "used the wrong buzzword" and then said that what it actually did was "ma[k]e me laugh" that I, myself am implying that laugh is a buzzword?
'Cause if you are, please stop.
It's late, I'm not english and I really feel like killing myself today, don't bully.
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>>158415870
Yes. Anything positive you can think of is merely a social construct created by *record scratch* that was meant to hold you down from your true potential. Kill em all, kid.
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>>158416140
But if you kill yourself, how will you play more SMT
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Would an overworld map of Mikado have made SMT IV significantly better for immersion's sake?
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>>158416229
Valid point.
Let's survive, I guess.
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>>158416037
only my what?
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>>158416140
Okay, I'm sorry, anon.

For what it's worth your reading comprehension actually seems to be above average for someone posting here.
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>>158416230
yes
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>>158416140
But anon, when you ask not to bully it just makes me want to bully you more. Don't worry, I'll cuddle with you afterwards.
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>>158416350
Your feelings, kid.
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I feel like when you died you should have to keep paying play coins or macca. One or the other, whenever i die it doesnt really feel like a consequence since you spawn right where you left off,
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>>158416484
oh ok
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>>158416350
Hello newfriend.
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>>158416230
Unless the Mikado portion of the game was significantly redesigned or more of the game took place in Mikado, no, it's not really worth the effort. All you do in Mikado is go between Naraku and the Samurai facilities, except the one time you go to the forest.

Maybe the opening where you wander into the city with Issachar would be improved.
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Whats the best thing to mindlessly watch while I grind for levels
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>>158416356
No need to apologize, friendly banter is basically love.
Thanks, that actually cheered me up a bit.

>>158416448
You have no idea how much that just hurt.

/endblog
g'night /smtg/
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>>158416654
monster hunter streams
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>Transform Chaos Hero
>can't get Hiranya for Alice now
>Got the gushing Jar
>Can't talk to Ozawa with it
ATLUS WHY DID YOU DO THIS I JUST WANT TO SEQUENCE BREAK
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fucking hell when will Toki join my group for good? this si the second time she left
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>>158416759
What actually is the point of not letting you talk to Ozawa with the jar?
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>>158416776
I'm afraid I'm going to need source
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>>158416654
i watch northernlion
you could watch my youtube channel
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>>158416737
>You have no idea how much that just hurt.
But I promised to cuddle!
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>>158416776
Only if you're cute.
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>>158416923
link
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>>158416923
Post it, faggot, unless you're the egg
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>Got back from work from Halloween Store
>7 different workers on today
>50+ people wanting to go and change into costumes
>1 worker doesn't do anything half my shift

So, how's your day going /smtg/
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>>158417032
>he isn't living the NEET life
Wew lad
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>>158417032
Been trying to get a perfect Fusion Accident only demon.
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>>158416946
I haven't been bullied and cuddled afterwards for a while now anon. Normally it wouldn't bother me but today is definitely not a good day. I just don't wanna fill up the thread with personal shit. I know you didn't mean to make me feel bad so don't worry. I'd cuddle you if I could.
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>>158417032
Good. You should probs talk to your supervisor about it if its an ongoing problem. Ain't shit gonna get done if you just leave it as it is.
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>>158417168
Anon, self-loathing like that is a cause for concern, you should talk to someone.
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>>158417175
Well fuck, now you're making me feel bad. Sorry anon. Hope you can get over whatever's troubling you.
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>>158416865
I guess so you can't get the jar, fight Ozawa, rescue Heroine, then go straight to Roppongi and go seal Belial. I guess it's just supposed to make it more obnoxious because you need to travel through the damage tiles for the sealing jar again.
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>>158417214
Funny thing you say that
This is literally the first time I'm seeing this, and said co-worker
We just hired like a lot of new people and I met like most of them today.
Glad its almost over

>>158417168
What ya fusing
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>>158417032
Pretty good, but im sleepy, I had a long day.

I need to draw more like a cute hunter girl and possibly nsfw with her and do work, but I can't be arsed. And my SMT IV artbook should be coming in tomorrow so im happy for that.
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>>158416989
>>158416995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=499H-OU6mUA
literally my only quality video and its bad
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>>158417439
Are you the drawfag that drew my Deemonee-ho
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>>158417428
Jeanne D'Arc
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>>158417483
>Facade
Holy shit I forgot about this game.

Lost my shit at the kitchen. What did you do?
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>mfw you recognize all the locations in SMT4 from SMT1
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why did they make the cheat dlc so shitty in final?
I have to spend thirty minutes running around a circle until a mitama spawns and then its not even the one i want
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>>158417841
We tried to replace graces animations with trips animations.
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>>158417883
ye, they really fucked up
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>>158417597
No, im a new drawfag. I just got back to SMT real hard with the release of SMT IV:A and started reading the general. It's been years since i've drawn some SMT stuff. So here's a dumb sketchy Krishna
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>>158418447
Neat.
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>>158418447
Nice smug streetshitter.
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>>158418447
Fuck no, that's some good ass shit.
I remember someone drawing this for me, a year or two back, when I first started coming on here.
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>>158410086
Yes.
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>>158417032
>Halloween Store
This is a thing? An entire store dedicated to Halloween? What the fuck do you guys do once Halloween is over? Who the fuck visits a Halloween store in February?
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>>158412046
God needs to be less of an asshole.

Basically, grab the ideas of DeSu, and put them in SMT.
>>
Apocalypse should have been SMTxFE.

>all these characters that would be great for supports
>both fantasy and traditional SMT settings and characters available
>an actual war going on
>great battle setpieces like the threeway faceoff at the reactor
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>>158420238
But shock value anon.
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>>158420068
They're either party stores that focus in on Halloween in October, or just seasonal stores.
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>>158414683
Devil Summoner IS SMT, even in Japan.
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>>158398808
Source pls
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>>158415539
I would gladly fuck Hikaru from the chaos ending.
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>>158417842
>no Tokyo Destinyland
Come on, P5 has it and the world hadn't nuked itself yet.
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>>158420516
They dropped the SMT title after the first game.
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>>158420691
>and the world hadn't nuked itself yet.
I don't know what nukes have to do with anything. Tokyo Destinyland is a stand in for Tokyo Disneyland.
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>>158420702
>>158420516
If a game has kaneko demons in it, its a smt game to me, whether or not a true goddess is reincarnating.
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>>158418447
Cute, I like it.
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>>158420954
Megaten is the term used to refer to the franchise as a whole. Calling it all SMT makes us use stupid terms like "mainline".
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>>158420954
Use MegaTen anon

otherwise you get stupid shit like people calling DAN smt
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>>158421129
And the problem with "mainline" is that games like If... and SJ can get excluded despite bearing the SMT title in Japan, if not a number.
>>
Is Krishna a fag?
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>>158421505
I want Krishna to play my skin flute
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>>158421505

He's pretty homo for Odin. He has that poor guy whipped.
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>>158420954
So the one dmc that got kaneko demon mode designs counts too? ;^)
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>>158421750
Yes!
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>>158421750
DMC3 and Snowboard Kids are the best SMT games to be honest.
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Is this filename right /smtg/?
Also which SMT character would do this?
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>>158421885
>tfw that shitty DS Snowboard Kids game didn't have a redesigned slutty Linda but Nancy does

Ah well ded franchise.
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>>158420238
>Desu YHVH in Mainline
That's not in the spirit in Megaten.
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>>158421951
Zayin.

Also thread's theme:
https://youtu.be/yrs4hgWOfwg
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>tfw fell for the SJ is the hardest smt meme
>blasted horkos with some random nekomata i picked up
>blasted through asura with the waifu parvati
>already heading into the green area seeing demons ive seen through fusion while being overleveled
The only hard part of this game is having to put up with the backtracking
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>>158422723
SJ is just a wall hugging simulator with fetch-quests

The next 2 dungeons are mildly annoying and that's about it
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>>158422723
The final boss is literally RNG though.
>>
When did you realize that Mara's head is in fact, shaped after a male human reproductive organ?
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>>158421505
Divine beings such as Lord Krishna are beyond those petty concepts.
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>>158422723
>tfw fell for the SJ is the hardest smt meme
Literally, no one has ever said this.
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>>158423151
The first time I saw him.
Which was Persona 3.
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>>158423151
>le Mara looks like a dick may may

Stop jerking off so much; it's obvious that Mara looks like a chariot.
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>>158423216
t. Odin
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>>158423151
>When did you realize that Mara's head is in fact, shaped after a male human reproductive organ?

What!? it is?
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>>158423296
Plenty of people have though
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>>158423296
>both zelenin and jimenez have the same face
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>>158423341
No she's a horse dammit.
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>*cuts dick*
I'm curious why they made Loki a Tyrant rather than Diety.
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>>158423762
Because he raped everyone.
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>>158423574
I hate it too because otherwise it is an awesome picture.
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>>158423151
Holy fuck I just realize that
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>>158423762
>god of chaos and mischief in norse mythology
>law

What the fuck, japs?
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>>158424067
>thor went from serving law to being a world of strength fag
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>>158424067
Yeah, to be fair he should have been put in the Tyrant class so that it could be something other than 95% end-game demons/bosses.

But Atlus isn't very good at balancing demon races, like the hybrid class which only has like 4 demons, and some clans only go up to like level 40-55.

Even in SMT4A, Gogmagog is the highest Chirei demon at like 66. I miss Albion.
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>>158424067
Smt 1-2 era Kerberos only had one head. Don't expect 11s to be mythologicaly accurate.
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>>158423762
SMT1 is an outlier, he was a Tyrant in the first Megami Tensei, and a Vile in the second, then a Tyrant from SMT2 on.

Loki should probably be Chaos, and in terms of Light>Dark spectrum he'd fit into Light or Neutral, but only up until he kills Baldr at which point he'd be Dark so Tyrant is pretty fitting.
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>>158423503
Who? The people who think SJ is hard are probably the same people who thought IV was hard.
>>
>SMT 1

how the fuck do I get rid of curse status
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>>158424501
IV wasn't hard it was just more poorly designed than a pachinko.
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>>158424268
>vermin and foul race in SJ
>meanwhile stuff like Herald start midway and end at 90
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>>158424547
Kaifuku. Head Shinjuku/Shibuya and there's one closeby.
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>>158424657
>Vermin Race
>Biggest thing there is Arachne

Can you go higher than a bitch turned into a spider because she decided to be too smug?
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>if you master all magatama that hold a chance of cursing you, it is almost impossible to get Tyrants in Nocturne
What kind of retarded monkey thought this was okay?
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>brainwashed humanity lives on the tops of skyscrapers for all eternity praising god
I'm so sorry for choosing this shitty ending guys.
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>>158424934
What's even the point. You could at least experience life with chaos
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>>158424251
Thor's a weird deal alignment wise. All Deities were Law in 1, with Thor being a story Lawfag, but then Deity got changed to Neutral in 2. In Nocturne all the Lawfags are for World of STR, but out of all of them Thor goes and gets a raceswap to Kishin, making him permanently Chaos.

Now that I think about it, it's weird how so many deities were willing to suck YHVH's cock in 1. Perhaps out of fear of ending up like the ones that didn't (Ahura Mazda).
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>>158424787
It's annoying because endgame in 4/A you're reliant on only a handful of level 80/90 demons and special fusions.
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>>158424905
But that's not true. You can get Tyrants with the right recipe, no curse involved. Use Heretic Mansion from the pastebin in the OP.
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>>158424787
Give her a higher level.
>>158424934
Least we hang out with Mastema.
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>>158425065
>You could at least experience life with chaos
Yeah, as like a fuck slave to some really powerful demonoid guy.
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>>158424934
don't forget to sing along Zelenin's Greatest hits
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>>158425368
You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>
I actually really like the law theme in SJ, am I becoming a lawfag?
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>>158425657

well it'll be pretty shit when he's done sucking your brains out
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>>158425887
We are all lawfag
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>>158424657
>a good three-eighths of Herald in 4A is concentrated around the 80+ mark
>fusing new non-special entries is a hassle of continually recycling Angel (Nocturne)
>no Sandalphon as consolation for NG+ Only Metatron
>no Armaiti to end the streak of Sraosha being in games without her since the P2s and Card Summoner
>no Meltycheesesteak

>Kishin is still a wasteland of "boss-gated Four Devas around 50-70, Thor, and a couple randos to make it not look boss-only"
>Urban Terror and Douman haven't come back to make Foul worth a damn
>no folding the non-Food UMAs into Vermin
>is anything worthwhile even going on with Wood and Tree. The only reason Hitokotonusi is a Kunitsu now is because those two could spare the depth, and Kunitsu still have shit for it

What even is the maximum cart size of a 3DS cart, anyway? I imagine IV/IVA aren't any particular miracles of data allocation; this isn't like Megaman Battle Network 3 where the English-localized game was mere kilobytes from being too big for a GBA cart.

There's room for at least a good 15-20 demons to be called up from the SFC games and DS/SH to gapfill in the races with the shittiest balancing, is what I'm saying.
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>>158425908
At least I had the sex with a cute demon girl.
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>>158425908
That would mean that you are weak sperg.

Demonoids prefer to farm their neurishers rather than consuming them to death.
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>>158425908
>Not wanting to get your brains sucked out
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>>158425953
Welp, it's too bad. When we get the next main SMT game, which will probably be 3D, we will only have 100 demons or so.
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>>158425998
>Implying your boipussy isn't getting fucked by a big veiny demon man cock
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>>158425953
>no Meltycheesesteak
Why does Purseowner seem to be the only megaten series to get super hero angel in?
It's not fucking fair.

They also get to have the Titania that's actually good looking.
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>>158426140
Does your Uncle work at Atlus?
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>>158426140
>Nocturne all over again with single-demon-races and widely distributed levels for each race
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>>158426108
As long as it's a cute demon.
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>>158426190
That would mean I surrendered to the wrong demonfu. And considering I know which demons are where, I doubt it.
Besides, getting fucked by a hung demonbro isn't that bad.
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>that feel when oni will never stick his hard spiky cock in your tight boipussy
>>
>too many demons
>atlus can't balance families and levels
>too little
>atlus can't balance families and levels
>>
GIVE ME A Great Chakra
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>>158427089
>Cheat
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>>158427321
GIVE ME 999 St
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>>158427754
>Cheat
>>
>>158427953
GIVE ME A LIFE
>>
>>158427953
I HAVE TO LEAVE NOW
FAREWELL
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>>158428030
>Comply

>>158428035
Reeeee
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>>158428035
Why the fuck do they remove this option in IVA

It was so good in IV
>>
Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to give all these fucking demons Mute Eyes. Fuck.
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>>158428206
I did. What are you going to do about it, failure as a human?
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>>158426950
>ywn cuddle Oni to sleep after a couple rounds of rough sex with him, your ass still dripping with his seed
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>>158428492
I'm still an option.
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>>158428324
I'm gonna kick your ass.
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>>158428630
Try it, nerd.
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>>158428626
But is your alignment Chaos and do you have a demon cock?
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>>158428492
This actually made me sad
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>>158428902
Yes and yes. I also have a wicked sense of humour.
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>>158428492
I can only imagine your mother's reaction to the trash you write on here.
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>>158428869
Fucking watch me, punk.
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>>158429192
Likewise.
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>>158429345
Except I don't fantasize being fucked by demons.
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>>158429529
Really, not even once?
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>>158429529
No but you're on a site best known for worshipping Chinese cartoons and bullying. You don't have a high horse to ride on this time anon.
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>>158429529
Zelenin pls go and stay go
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>>158430262
Zelenin fantasises about untrustworthy angels.
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>>158429529
I think everybody on this board is homo or hetero for at least one demon.

like jesus christ IVA:A Odin gives me complicated feelings. i'd let him stick his personal gunhgir in any of my holes.
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>>158430917
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>>158430917
Does autodemophilia count?
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>>158421951
Man, fuck people who actually do that shit to kids. That's just not right.
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>>158431371
What's that? Google gives me nothing.
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>>158431879
I'm referring to autodemophila btw.
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So long Kramer
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>>158432042
Maybe he'll invent something good from out his ass. Like "not getting killed".
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>>158432301
Meanwhile George is getting his shit pushed in because he's a magic healbitch
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Am I the only one that stopped playing Nocturne because Baal's Avatar was too bullshit?
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What the fuck.
I get so close to taking Odin out then after using Will of Thunder and Concentrate he just crushes me in one go. Any tips?
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>>158432557
First or second time?
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>>158432627
Second time, the real boss fight.
>>
I want Mastema to fuck me hard while I praise YHVH
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>>158432687
Use zan, buff, and debuff skills.

>>158432693
t. Zelenin
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>>158432693
Mastema was a sleeper cell against YHVH
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>>158431879
>>158432018
Being homo or hetero for being the demon.
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>>158432975
Well it seems you really do learn something everyday. Thanks for the info.
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>>158432538
Equip Djed.
Have Curse-immune demons.
What's so bullshit about it now?

>>158432975
I need more art like that. The color shades of the hair and wings mesmerize my eyes, while that body and artstyle mesmerizes my cock.
I could use more like that.
>>
When you go massacre, do you fight Danu directly, or does she just use Nozomi?
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>>158433260
Just uses Nozomi.
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>>158433637
Thanks.
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>>158433248
Cursory check of the Source listing of its booru mirror says it got removed from Pixiv, so I've now got fuck-all for an artist lead.

...actually, running down a few different Mystic Script combinations, I'm finding very few DSSH Angel pics with anything close to that kind of vibrancy. The best shot I can point you to are a couple R-18s within エンジェル 女神転生 that I haven't put on the booru yet because I'm pretty sure they're just the artist's OC or some crossover waifu I haven't bothered IDing yet.
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>>158433973
>removed from Pixiv
WHY IS THIS A THING?! WHY

Oh well, still saved. Will check those leads out much later. Thanks.
>>
My entire party is 10 levels ahead of Odin in his 2nd fight and when he uses Thunder Reign+Concentrate+Will of Thunder, boom one shot.

Two of three demons have Deadly Wind, one has Mazandyne, but is there anything I should take note of ?
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>>158434286
Are you using buffs/debuffs? Do you have access to Doping?
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>>158434443
One of my demons has Doping, yeah. And Navarre as well.
Nanashi has Concentrate and one other demon has Will of Wind. Maybe I should level up more.
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>>158434164
Artists on pixiv are notorious when it comes to deleting art with no warning what so ever. Its kinda infuriating. The only time i'd understand mass deletions is if they got a professional artist job and had to delete or hide their R-18 works for PR reasons, unless theyre known and hired for their R-18 content.
>>
What is the most optimal build for Cleopatra?

Aside from the following which I assume are a given.
Dazzle Ray
Concentrate
Repel/Drain Dark
Light Pierce
Light Pleroma
High Light Pleroma

I'm a bit indecisive about the remaining two slots. Should I get Healing Knowhow or Energy Drain? Both?
Is Alluring Banter worth it or is something like Debilitate preferable?
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>>158434617
It sounds like your demons are a lot better than mine were, and I took a +3 Concentrated Thunder Reign because I expected Navarre to Dekaja him. Defense buffs and Doping saved me there.
Maybe you could give Nanashi Floral Gust and hope for more hits.
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>>158435003
>Is Alluring Banter worth it

Its the best skill in the game
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>>158435165
Alright, thanks. I guess it comes down to the last slow then. I'm guessing Healing Knowhow should be better because it's more versatile, but I'm not sure if it's still going to be as useful as Energy Drain in really long boss fights.
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>>158435165
Does the Defense down from Alluring Banter still work if the opponent nulls ailments?
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>>158435003
My build. She's a support as I don't need damage dealer in my team when Nanashi can blow everything up with Charged Akasha Arts as long as I keep buff/debuff to maximum

Alluring Banter
Luster Candy
Mediarahan
Dazzle Ray
Drain Dark
Drain Phys
High Light Pleroma
Light Pierce
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>>158435561
Yes
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>>158434684
yeah, several artists i'd been looking for even outside of smt stuff have pulled that kind of shit. twitter artists too. aside from that situation you described there is literally no point, it's kind of stupid.
>>
>check the playlog of my 3DS out of curiosity
>Persona Q turns out to be my most played game with 179 hours of playtime

Where were you when PQ was confirmed as the best megaten for 3DS?
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Did I do good on my first Daisoujou?
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>>158436028
>check mine
>FFTA2 with 300 hours

PQ btfo
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>>158436028

My most played game is MH4U at some 400+ hours

SMTIV has 200+ tho
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>>158436028
>>158436147
>having a 3DS
>his most played game isn't MH
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>>158435003
For utility I'd add Luster Candy/Debilitate and Mediaharan. She has a large mp pool and an affinity for healing magic.

For campaign i'd drop light pleroma for Alluring Banter. She already does a lot of damage.

Against YHVH and Stephen switch alluring banter back to the pleroma. It'll just trigger the buff/debuff wipes
>>
>>158436240
>My most played game is MH4U at some 400+ hours
>he doesn't have Pokémon with 999.59
>>
>>158435802
>>158436364
I see. I guess I was too focused on damage dealing because of her high light affinity. Giving her a supporting role might be a better choice.
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>>158436602
Even as a support hybrid she still deals a lot of damage
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>>158436276
>Playing Grinding Hunter trash
>>
>>158436589

I don't care much for Pokemon though I have spent a lot in Pokemon Black. at over 100 hours
>>
SMT x Real Time Strategy

I don't think they've touched on that yet. But I don't know how it'll be received, or worked in
>>
>>158436880
Yeah, Pokémon can get pretty autismal.
>>
>>158436965
normally i stop playing them after clearing the main story

I've never caught them all
>>
>>158436240
To be honest, I'm sure I would have surpassed the playtime of PQ with SMTIV if I didn't lend it to a friend like a complete dumbass.

He had it for a full year and couldn't even get past Pellaidh.
By the time I got it back, IVA's release was right around the corner, and I prefered to wait for it so I didn't get burned out.
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>>158436918
Like the ATB of Final Fantasy games?

I think it's thrash.
>>
>>158436918
>demons gathering relics and bringing them back to base for macca
>compendium building to summon various demons
>cathedral of shadows building for fusion
>enemy heroes like lucifer or metatron with their own special skills
I'd play it.
>>
Making a team for Stephen so far I have a Physical Satan and Light/Support Cleopatra. Who should I have for the last slot.
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>>158437996
Alilat
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>>158437996
I used Mother Harlot (Immunity to mind) to manage MP with knowhow and resummon dead demons. Null phy helped a good deal too
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>>158437889
Never knew Final Fantasy had a spin-off based on a metal genre.
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>Tfw you want to replay Debisama
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>>158439547
Don't you mean TRANSLATE Debisama?
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>>158439631
No because I am but a simple mind who can neither hack nor speak Jap
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Uhh so at what levels should I try tackling Cleopatra and Mephisto? My friend said that they are fucking hard as shit but he won't tell me his level
Also on average, how many "level ups" or "downs" enemies get if I change the difficulty? Like If I'm level 55 and I change the difficulty to War, what's the ideal enemy level to fight?

Sorry I'm asking so many questions, the new difficulties are confusing
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>>158440610
tell your friend he's a little bitch
But we'll say 99 are the levels for both.
They won't change "levels", it'll change how hard they hit

At least, that's from my experience
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DISTANT YOU MAY BE
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I like how some of the demons go REEEEEEEE
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re-add this to the OP you fucks
https://aqiu384.github.io/smt4a-tool/
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>>158441724
It's in the tips and tricks pastebin under apocalypse
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>>158441868
Oh. My mistake. Didn't even think to check.
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should i put john on walter on this
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>>158442093
Jonathan. He has never seen his penis.
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>>158442093
Johnathan, UNLESS you can convincingly shop the arm tumor onto that dolphin
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>>158442093
>dolphin
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Alas poor Elaine
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>>158440818
Fucking A.
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I've literally had an encounter 3 steps in a row
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Is this the most bullshit boss ever? How in the hell are you supposed to know to fight this faggot at full kagatsuchi? And even if you fight him in full kagatsuchi, the only clue you get is a small ass shadow underneath him. Who the fuck thought this was a good boss design?
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What's the deal with demon encounters
It's like you walk a couple steps and BAM! A demon
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>>158443198
I agree.

This is probably one of Snappy's schemes to get the souls of naive "nofap" practicers, and christians.
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>>158444197
Don't even get me started on bind, I walked down the street the other day to reach the Junk shop, stopped to look at a bodyconian on the way, and suddenly my arms are stuck to the side of me and I'm crawling my way to the Kaifuku instead!
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>>158444036
>take step
>encounter
>escape
>get set back one space
>take step
>encounter
>escape
>get set back one space
>take step
>encounter
>escape
>get set back one space
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>>158445006
Welcome to 1990 jrpg
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>>158445006
>>158445110
1990? That shit happens in DDS too.
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>>158445006
literally me, throw in some paralyze too
I'm half done with this dungeon
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>>158444145
beat him not on full moon, no idea how
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So I got the law ending in IV
Really nice desu
Not bad at all and Tokyo can kiss my ass
I find it funny I played all the fucking game with the black Demonica
Also
>Walter
Shit got crazy with the nigger
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>>158446414
>chaosfags
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It pained me a bit but I went Anarchy route in IVA.

Like I just killed everyone off.
How much more of the game is left?
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>>158447113
10 hours left for the final dungeon

;)
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>>158447113
>>158447113
1/4th of the game after finishing the egg
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>>158447113
One more dungeon after finishing the egg

It can be 10 minutes long or 2-5 hours long
depends if you want to map the place out and find everything
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>>158447152
>>158447178
>>158447252

Wow
Might just try to wrap it up tonight, I heard of how endlessly long that final dungeon can be. I love mapping places out but I just wanna finish it quick.
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>>158447374
>I love mapping places out but I just wanna finish it quick.
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>>158447804
why
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On the scale from 0 to Samsung how BTFO /smtg/ will be if Sharp FE2 will actually happen? Its more likely than you may actually think. Picrelated - various people from Avex twitting shit about Switch, also director of the TMS seems to be in contact with mocap providing dance director and his crew under the Avex.
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>>158425953
Max size is 4GB, they just decided not to add any returning demons like the retsrds they are. The game files had the sprites for both Molochs so they were thinking of doing it a some point
mods when
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>>158447804
How many teleporting traps in that level?
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>>158450243
Not nearly enough, most of the time wasted there comes from how big the areas are, and while a few paths are one way, as long as you keep exploring map you haven't yet you should be able to find your way around eventually.

Eventually being anywhere from minutes to a few hours depending on your sense of direction.
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>>158449508
Probably 7.
10 out of 10 if they bring Camilla mirage in it.
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Can someone post the map for Record Scratch's Universe?
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>>158450380
So it's not as bad as Eridanus right?
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When will Mephisto pop up as a special fusion in IVA?
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>>158452708
After you beat him

If he's not there you might not have the demon to fuse him yet
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>>158452152
The way everything's spaced out and the lack of interesting hazards makes it less challenging but more tedious to navigate. It also makes the recovery while walking stuff a lot more useful though.

A handful of sections have drop points where you might want to look around before jumping down or have to do a lot of walking to get back to where you were, for example, this is especially common in the areas with or near treasures.

>>158452708
Defeat boss, receive fusion recipe. Keep in mind he's a level 99 fusion that requires a bunch of demons, including Lucifuge, to make.
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>>158452845
Oh shit I looked at the main game bosses and he's not there, I'm guessing he's DLC then.
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>>158452958
Yeah I gathered all the demons before hand so that's covered. I just gotta fetch the quest then!
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>>158452960

Yep, him and Cleopatra are DLC only demons that you have to fight to get. Her's is probably the easier one to do, since Mephisto will pierce dark with his attacks(even though both come with their respective pierces as default skills when fused).
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Tips for Vishnuflynn?
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>>158453403
Hit him until he dies.
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>>158453403
Get good
Get smirk
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>>158452046
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>>158453403
Buff and debuff at least once every turn, max both out if you have Imposing Stance to distract it from removing those. There's a second phase, concentrate on surviving until it opens a weakness, THEN go all out exploiting that.

I beat it without Imposing Stance on War but I was already past the level cap, and demons were in the 80-90 range for the most part, so good fucking luck.
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I have no idea who to choose for the Anarchy Route....

I'm thinking Asahi or Navarre
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>>158454676
Asahi
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>>158454676
Dog
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>>158454758
>>158454797

Doggie it is
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>>158454676
I choose Toki twice now.

I dig her calling me Master.
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>>158415852
>Taking issue with Flynn being your mindless puppet who obeys your every order exactly
Doesn't that describe Flynn throughout all of SMT IV, anyway?
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>>158454882
Now I know where the Flynn and Isabeau cuck thing comes from.
I'm laughing too much.
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>>158454964
I was real tempted to choose Isabeau because of the irony hatefuck.

But i couldn't deny the assassin loli who proclaimed love for me.
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If time is different in Tokyo and Mikado how come you can communicate perfectly between the 2 without the other seeming slower or faster.
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I'm about to step foot into YHVH's Universe finally. Anything I should do or bring before hand?
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>>158455501
Bring lots of time.
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>>158455501
Bring lube
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>>158455501
Bring a map
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>>158426140
There are already enough series demons in P5 to be about on par with Nocturne, at the very least.
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>>158450121
>can't have canon Akira's team because they didn't come back from IV
It's not fair.
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>>158455501
make sure to have team mp regen app
will save you some trips to the heal station
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>>158455501
Use >>158453767
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>>158456071
>no Mastema acknowledging your past self
>no Minotaur tearful reunion
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All right, I finally unlocked all 80 DDS titles after getting all four endings of Apocalypse. I think that means the game is 100%'d.

But I'm not sure why I bothered considering it's not like I got anything special for it.
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>>158457308
Now grind to level 999 and get 999 in every stat
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>>158457514
If I do, I'll post a screenshot.
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>>158400782
Late reply, but Demi-fiend's upper lip is sticking way too far out in front of his face.
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>>158457805
I've done it except for the level.
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>best and easiest way to play Nocturne is with first person view
>isn't available until NG+
???
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>>158458790
>Nocturne is with first person view
What?

This is a thing?
Maybe I should replay Nocturne soon.
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>>158458682
Wew
How long will it take to reach 999?
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>>158458998
Press select.
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Something's wrong with this Pascal...
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>>158459050
Don't really remember. I just grinded the stat DLC while watching some videos.
What type of build would even be the best with all stats maxed? Str, Dex, or Mag?
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>>158459737
Phys/Gun attacks do more damage than their equivalent magic attacks (eg. Akasha Arts does more than Trisagion even with equal stats) So probably a phys build with a few magic attacks for weakness coverage
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>>158460250
Or just use Elemental bullets.
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>>158460273
That only gives extra type, but I guess it frees a skill slot. For phys builds, you only really need 3 slots (charge/akasha or mist rush/awakened power).
Use Judgement light as your AoE damage, then have either 3 magic and riot gun if using elemental bullets or 4 magic if not
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>>158458682
>>158459737
Would have been a lot faster by getting to lvl999. All your stats are capped at that point even without any incense.
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How does Twisted Tokyo work in Apocalypse?
I read something about the bosses getting stronger the more you do it and that eventually they are like lv900+? Do you even get anything good from it?
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>>158460273
I haven't gotten any of the Fiend equipment yet, but I'll have to see if they drop a gun that does comparable damage with elemental bullets to actual magic skills.
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>>158460597
>Do you even get anything good from it?
It gives you the by far best gear in the game and items you can use to increase your demons skill proficiencies. And yes, every time you clear the entire place it restarts and gets harder, for the higher cycles you pretty much need to use the incense gathering DLC to at least cap every party members HP, Fiends start hitting for damage in the thousands and get more and more press turns every cycle.
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mornin smtg

how's your day going
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So can you raise your HP past 9999 with Doping or does it not do anything at that point?
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>>158461003
You can raise it past that point but the number won't show HP above 9999 even if you have more.
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>>158460958
Pretty okay. Trying to get motivated to finish YHVH's house on Bonds
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>>158460958
Getting tired of hordes in Final.Some one told me it only gets worse.
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>>158461231
Just use Estoma.
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>>158461405
But what if I miss out on some rad demons?
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>>158460548
Wouldn't have gotten maxed stats that way since you don't get as many points after level 99.
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Gonna try to fusion error Jeanne D'arc with healing and support skills.

How fucked am i?
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I just got SMT4:A, why are all the apps that make the game harder so expensive?
Seems fucking stupid. I'd have to save up 3000 Points just to make it so it's a game over when Nanashi dies. What is the sense in that?
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>>158462281
Prepare to suffer

Make sure your components don't have any other skills than the ones you want, and remember the famed demons always keep their innate skills
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>>158462745
NG+ challenge runs

They should be free tbqh
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>>158462834
But wouldn't you have to keep your level to keep the App Points and just shit on everything being drastically overleveled?
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>>158462745
No idea what they were thinking. If you want to get them, just pirate the DLC and use the one that lets you grind app points to get enough.
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>>158462745
The Apocalypse difficulty DLC comes with that. It's pretty unfair and will require you to grind quite a lot to get through the game though
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>>158462281
>implying jeanne d'arc wasn't a shorthair dyke
She was still a pretty interesting figure.

Kinda buttmad Drifters makes her into a psycho for some reason that controls fucking fire. Makes no sense.
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>>158457308
Did you 100% compendium too?
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I just realised I have not done the Chaos Route in either SJ or SMT IV.
I would like to do one of them.
I would also like to exclusively use hot/cute grill demons while I do this, because why else would you go Chaos.

I have access to NG+ in SMTIV, so I could get Asherah there.
Which should I do?
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>>158463386
Yeah, that's one of the DDS titles.
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does twisted tokyo give armor as well or is the stuff you can buy in the secret shop in ginza the best? this stuff is super expensive so i kinda dont want to grind macca for hours only to replace it
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>>158463316
>Drifters makes her into a psycho for some reason that controls fucking fire

What?
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>>158463490
SJ Chaos
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>>158463991
I don't think so, TT gives you those Armor Upgrade Kits you can buy for 1m each in Ginza though. The only thing that matters on armor is the resistances. Superior Samurai is great since it's only Resists and not Null/Drain/Repel which the Fiends will pierce. Another good one is the black recolor of the starter outfit that you get for doing all Challenge Quests, that has resist on phys, gun, and mudo instead.
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>>158464105
Good, I love SJ.
However, I realised that there are those clear bonuses for having SMT IV saves in Apocalypse, and since that's out in a month and a bit here in Britbongistan, I should get to IV.
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>>158464067
Drifters is a currently running animu.

And yes, this is what I've seen from the currently running show.
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>>158464336
Well do both then but start with SJ, I'm sure you have plenty of time.
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>>158464489
Fair enough. I always did like Jiminez.
Shame I'll eventually have to beat up that good kind honest Mastema though.
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>10 fusion errors later
>No Jannu.

Truly, getting famed demons are a bitch.
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I love DDS, lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJQayWYgxoo
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>>158463316
>set alight
>taken from that moment of death
>not batshit insane
Plus that's the Ends in general, all of them are pretty much chaotic and destructive due to their tragic ends.
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Is there a place to see profiles of all the demons?
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>Apoc MC has deathly cold body temperature

That's a surprise.

Wonder why Asahi didn't notice this.
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Dex builds are decent in IV, right? I know that Magic builds are normally considered the best, but I've already done that.
I was thinking of doing Magic Law, Chaos Str and LUCK Neutral.
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>>158467305
In vanilla IV Dec is much better than str because it effects all physical skills.
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>>158467305
Luck/Dex is better than Mag.
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>>158467305
It's going to be a bit harder midgame than a magic build but endgame physical trumps magic's damage output by a lot
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>>158467570
>vanilla IV
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>>158467695
>>158467582
Jesus christ, and I thought Mag was broken as hell.
Eager to see how much damage I pump out later on. I guess IV is just quite easy.
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Has anyone done this guide for IV neutral before? http://pastebin.com/5ycJB5Ye
How did it work out? I'm halfway through it and noticed that the author left out a lot of alignment choices.
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>>158467769
It is except for Fiends and a few bosses like Beelz.

Beelz is legitimately hard and will probably wrek you a few times along with the fiends. After you grind some demons a bit though, they're all much less threatening than most actual hard SMT bosses. All much less difficult from YHVH afaik, and MUCH less difficult than SMT4A dlc bosses.
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>>158467165
She's a disgrace to dogs
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Have any of you played IV and/or IV:A in both English and Japanese? I remember hearing a character's tone being different between the versions (kind of like Zero in Drakengard 3 I guess) so I'd like to ask, how is the overall quality of the localizations? Are there any glaring issues? I'd like to play them in Japanese but it would be easier and cheaper for me to get the English versions.
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>>158468876
Relax anon, she just wants Nanashi's bone r
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>>158468790
I used the neutral guide on gamefaqs. It was perfect.
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>>158469697
Yeah, I fucked up on deciding to use the pastebin one. There are too may errors in it and I lost track of my points. I'm starting over with gamefaqs. RIP 40 hours :(
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>>158468969
Aside from some unnaturally-only-occasionally use of Western millenial slang that should've been out of vogue for 251500 years, everything I've heard is that it's a pretty faithful localization.
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>>158467769
In IV go for a skill called Desperate Hit.
In Apocalypse stick to Riot Gun.

>>158468790
Answer honestly, use the girl in Ikeburuo to balance your law or chaos if you're too much for either way.
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>>158468969
Get 4A in english for Dagda's irish accent.
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>>158470141
That reminds me.

Is Desperate Hit still an almighty STR attack?
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yeah basically. Its also effected by charge and not concentrate.
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>>158470019
You can still probably fix it. Ask what your alignment currently is to the guy in the hunter's association and then you can do some quests to balance it out.
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>>158469116
>Nanashi, your cock is so cold and really stiff
>Wow Nanashi! Even after 4 times, you're still really stiff!
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>>158470426
Yeah, still works with Charge too.
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>>158470663
>he died with a stiffy
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>>158470426
>>158470694
Oh, that's why it was shit on my Bonds run with a MAG-primary, DEX-secondary build. I will not have such shortcomings with my hard STR Massacre run but it'll probably still be first against the wall when I can whisper on Akasha Arts.
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When will we get another animal partner?
We already got a dog or cat, what's next? What demon can we produce from it?
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>>158471490
We've had a few dogs and cats in the series actually.

I'd like to have another dog and this be your primary partner in your journey. The dog would kind of work like the Zoma from Soul Hackers but with actual story impact in the story or at least present.

It would probably need to have some base level skill list like the humans or a way to pass demon skills.
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im making a demonee-ho in apocalypse, akasha arts or desperado hit?
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>>158470663
>>158470737
Sol I hope you're in this thread. This is some good fap material.
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>>158472349
Akasha Arts. Desperate Hit is kind of garbage.
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>>158470737
Angel Lust. look it up.
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I like both dungeon crawlers and tactical RPGs. Should I get Devil Survivor Overclocked or Soul Hackers in the eShop sale?
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>>158472839
Persona 3 for sure
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>>158472839
Both.
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>>158470915
I think it's just overall worse in Apocalypse. I think it no longer crits or its not Dex based anymore.
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>>158472878
3DS, to be specific.
>>158472929
Ah, I can't afford both. Guess I will just flip a coin. Just wanted to make sure that I wouldn't be buying a dud, because you never know with remasters.

Would be my first SMT game too. Would have been SMT4 actually, if I wasn't tardy when it was on sale earlier this year.
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>>158473029
Get DeSu then, it's a lot more beginner friendly.
Soul Hackers is a 20 year old game and it shows, it's very archaic. It's a good game but I wouldn't recommend it to someone who is new to the franchise.
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Does the stake-pulling mission in the snowy mountains change at all depending on what team I pick in DeSu2 or is it a literal repeat episode of the previous pick-a-team exercise
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>>158473258
Same shit.

People you choose for those missions get affection up though if that means anything to you.
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About to start NG+ in Apoc, am I right in assuming there are no alignment points or anything and your route is just decided on whether you decide to join Lucifer/Merkabah at Camp Ichigaya and then again when Dagda asks you want you would like to do at the end of the Cosmic Egg?
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Is Catherine a megaten game ???
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>>158473728
Yes.
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>>158473728
Is snowboard kids a megaten game?
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>>158474232
Yes.
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Is Jack bros canon?
>>
asahee
>>
Apoc isn't bad but all the QoL system improvements make the game feel a bit easy even in the hardest difficulty. Stuff like saving everywhere and the fusion being easy mode due to the search system that even lets you search which demon have the skill you need. Hama/Mudo buff makes random encounters pretty much just brainless grinding stuff (specially Hordes) and they give way too much experience.
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>>158474709
Is a ho
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>>158473728
Is Trauma Center a megaten game?
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>>158470058

Any examples? I feel like demons talk in a lot of anachronistic ways but I assume you're talking about characters in the story using words like that.
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>>158449508

Could just be an enhanced port, but I dunno why people would assume a sequel wouldn't happen. The fire emblem lost or didn't make any money a shitload(especially the console ones) and they let them keep making them. Until they decided to shelve it until Awakening finally made it popular.

Oftentimes having game variety on a system makes the investment worth it, so I wouldn't be shocked either way.
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>>158473728
Is Tokyo Mirage Sessions a megaten game?
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Is Devil May Cry® 4: Special Edition featuring Vergil from Devil May Cry® 3: Dante's Awakening - Special Edition a Megaten game?
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Other than Jack Frost, which are the most popular Megaten demon? Pixie, Alice and Mara?
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>>158475624
Dante
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>>158475453

Trauma Center X SMT when? I want to operate on demons and see their weird anatomy.
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>>158475493
Nozomi saying "Homeslice" or "Bananacakes" every once in a while.
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>>158475624
I meant to post this guy
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Anarchy ending feels kinda dumb but Bonds ending is corny as fuck. Atlus needs better writers.
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Why did Nozomi become a whore in IVA?
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>>158476415
Fairies
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>>158475845
I think that's just Nozomi trying to be "hip" with the young kids.

This is probably her mindset:
>shit I'm the oldest person in this group
>okay be cool, be cool, you're still hip!
>"what's happening homeslice?"
>fucking nailed it!
>no one can call me old
>i'm so with it
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I'm close to YHVH.. I'm scared he's gonna fuck me up big time.
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>>158476489
Nozomi is a fucking DORK
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Which game has the best story?
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>>158476681
2
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>>158476681
Bioshock Infinite
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>>158476681
SMT1
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>>158476498
He's a pushover

It's that cripple you need to watch out for
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Is it worth keeping Mana Surge? I'm at endgame of Apocalypse right now and most of my demons have high MP skills, so Mana Surge helps a bit for long boss fights. It's not a problem outside of boss fights since I have the MP regen apps.

I can't decide if I want to replace Samael's Mana Surge with Repel Dark. He already resists dark, but.
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What's the deal with Stephen? Why is he so powerful? Why does he seem to be outside the rules of the Universe, even beyond YHVH's reach?
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>>158476770
I'd slap... energy(? whichever gives hp and mp) drain on anything that can inflict high damage with it
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>>158476770
MP and HP Surge are worthless since you can just grind Incense to get HP/MP capped. There is much better uses for that slot than saving 10 minutes.
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Is Nocturne on Normal harder than SMTIV on Prentice?
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>>158477117
Yes. It's harder than SMTIV on Hard too.
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>>158475268
Is it ever not?
Also fuck me meant to go >>158475161
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>>158476883
I should've thought about that. It's too late to refuse Samael with it, though. I already had to jump through a bunch of hoops to get his current skill set.

>>158477074
Where's a good place to grind incense?
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Nocturne is harder due to reasons such as save points, being unable to pick which skills fusions inherit and the fucking Asakusa puzzle game.
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I made a Daisoujou in nocturne but its only good skills are Void Force, Dekaja, Mediation, Debilitate, Sukukaja, and soon Prayer.
Do I do over or is this good enough?
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>>158477359
>Where's a good place to grind incense?
The Incense Grinding DLC.
Buying that is pretty much required if you want to do Twisted Tokyo.
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>>158477419
I already bought the leveling DLC to save myself like 20 hours of grinding.
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>>158476681
Raidou 1
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>>158476748
>Infinite Power
>Unending Curse
>Supernova
>Holy Stigmata

I mean, he's easier than the bonus bosses but I'd say he was about Mem Aleph tier, certainly harder than the other story bosses.
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>>158477396
I think Praise is p good
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Why are dungeons in IV and Apocalypse so much lamer than the dungeons in Nocturne? Nocturne dungeons were more creatively designed in terms of layout, had actual puzzles that you needed to think a bit to complete and were much more visually interesting. Even Strange Journey had better dungeons.
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>>158477508
>leveling DLC
The grimoires from using DDS every 2 hours should give you more than enough, unless you're skipping every single encounter that you can.
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>>158477508
you can grind grey mitamas in any dlc except the jewel one by using panic and trade to endlessly get the incenses they drop
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>>158477693
I haven't used DDS at all. I don't even really know what it is.

>>158477750
I don't think I've encountered any grey Mitamas; Only blue, red, and yellow.
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>>158477508
Incense, Macca, and maybe Jewels if you want to Hourglass cheese are the big ones that are definitely worth it since you need shitloads of them. You get more than enough Heavy Grimoires and App Point Cards from the random Mitama encounters in any of the DLCs so they aren't really worth it as much.
The Demon Bazaar DLC pretty much just breaks the game completely since it lets you get access to stuff like Demiurge with a good skillset as soon as you have the 20-30k macca it costs. Can be nice to easily get access to some harder to come by skills for fusion fodder at endgame too though.
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>>158477859
>I haven't used DDS at all.
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>>158477525
He's among the hardest but he's easier than a lot of SMT bosses if only because SMT4A gives you the most access to making retardly broken demons the series ever has.

SJ has archaic demon fusion system and Mem just overall has a LOT more bullshit than YHVH does. He might do a lot and he might be annoying but he doesn't have a skill that auto kills anyone not immune/strong to light/darkness 100% of the time.
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>>158477662
>Apocalypse
>Bad dungeobs
>Nocturne
>better than SJ
>Anything better than SJ

I vehemently disagree. Except vanilla 4 has the worst dungeons in mainlne, that's true.
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Why would you need DLC other than for Twisted Tokyo and the Stephen dungeon? The hordes everywhere and the buff to instant death spells make the level DLC unnecessary.
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>>158477997
Apoc's dungeons were pretty shit. They are all just huge long corridors and the difficulty in them isn't navigating or finding your path but simply not getting bored to death while you run through rooms that are way bigger than they have any right to be. YHVH's Dimension is especially bad with that, the layout is actually pretty simple all things considered, it's just obnoxious as shit since getting from one teleporter to the next takes minutes at a time. The other games all had fairly compact and mostly well designed dungeons, not anything like this bullshit.
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>>158477662
>>158477997
The entire Tokyo in 4 is the dungeons

And its not bad
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>>158478132
You don't even need it for Stephen
He can be killed on War without the cheat dlc
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>>158478132
It's really only necessary for Twisted Tokyo. Stephen isn't too bad.
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>>158477662
P team and Maniax lost the ability to design.
When a even smaller team can make one for a cash in spinoff and other teams with other IPs, it's sad.
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im making a demonehoo it looks like this:
akasha arts
charge
phys pierce
high phys pleroma
phys pleroma
enduring soul
draconinc reaction
hellish mask
but i wanted to put bloody glee too, should i take something out for bloody glee?
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>>158476415
Napaea and Danu
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>>158478998
You really need Hellish Mask on him? If not, then scrap it for Bloody Glee.
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>>158478290
Nigga, you must be kidding.

Even after beating YHVH you need to grind a shit ton to stand a chance against the DLC bosses, much less Stephen on War.
Unless you want to grind forever.

This coming from the kind of guy who autismed a fucking ridiculously broken Moh Shuvuu in SJ with skill mutations.
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>>158479921
wont i get buttfucked by the fiends if i dont have hellish mask?
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>>158479938
I know because I beat him myself

Yes, on War

It took armor boosts/incense from two playthroughs and 5 diamonds to buy a single hourglass. Around 1 million macca, which I already had by the end of the first playthrough, to fuse my shit

here's the team that did it

And they aren't perfect either

Cleo's Alluring Banter should have been switched for Endure or Light Pleroma

Mother Harlot should not have acted AFTER Matador

I should have taken the armor that resist or nulls phy

Matador would have been better off nulling mind

I should have nulled mind with a ring too

there's still room for error on WAR

Cheat DLC is not required
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>>158480151
>Fiends
Oh shit, forgot those.
Then ditch either Phys Pleroma or Draconic Reaction. Your call if you want less innate damage, or losing the starting +2 hit/evade (which you can just accumulate from Luster Candies.)
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>>158480447
Notice the "unless you want to grind forever".

Not everyone wants to sit through two playthroughs of a game they just finished to play through the dlc.

Hell, I just put the game down and went to go play DDS2 because this is one game in my SMT library and I still have more to go (12 down and still need to go play purse owner).

I have other games to be playing personally, if I wanted to beat a boss for my ego I'd go and try beating Demifiend from DDS1. Or maybe another Etrian superboss which requires more autism planning than grinding forever.
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>>158480786
>Notice the "unless you want to grind forever".
>Not everyone wants to sit through two playthroughs of a game they just finished to play through the dlc.

Two playthroughs is not forever
82 hours, my current save file, is not forever

By the time I started the second run I was already content with beating him on Conflict and was just making a mad dash to the end to see the other ending.

The whole second playthrough is probably unnecessary if you learn from my mistake and take a team that nulls mind and phy

I needed the extra stats and boosts because my team was not fully prepared

but they were still able to put his ass back in that chair

Cheat DLC is not required
Grinding forever is not required, I did a lot of unnecessary shit on that second playthrough
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I really want Cleopatra but I don't want to buy her DLC.
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>>158481310
I have 50ish hours on my playthrough after beating YHVH, even with meticulous planning I would probably have to tack on another MINIMUM 5 hours of gameplay to grind specific demons and incences etc to fight the DLC bosses, but more realistically another 10-15 hours. And that's not including fusing up and down skills and research.

I could do that or... Spend those hours actually playing another game and make progress on my backlog.

It is grinding forever. 5-10 hours is legitimately grinding forever especially when you consider how you could use them otherwise.

I don't have the time to autism in a game forever especially when I don't consider those parts "fun".
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Who here using Alice all the way to the end regardless of grinding needed?
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>>158481875
>5 hours is grinding forever
Wow. That's a single day of playing video games. Such a long time.
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>>158481536
>that cleavage
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>>158481885
How is Alice's natural magic growth in Apocalypse?
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>>158481875
>10-15 hours

Honestly, you make it seem like you're a bit shit at these games

especially at that mention of fusing skills and research

you should have already done most of that as you were playing. Passing good skills along as often as you could to as many demons as you could.
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>>158482019
>wow a day of doing monotonous shit
>why do you NOT want to do this

I wonder anon.
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>>158482375
Just watch a movie or catch up on Westworld why you grind. Or are you completely and utterly incapable of multitasking?
It's not as if you ever actually just grind in this game either, it's more about planning out your fusions and then maybe farming the money to execute them. Getting a couple levels here and there to get skills takes minutes at the end of the game when you can fight Metatron Hordes.
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>>158482364
I forgot to mention, none of it felt like grinding to me

it went like this

>Playthrough 1, ending 1
>That was neat
>Playthrough 2
>Twisted Tokyo completed
>Beat Stephen on Conflict
>That was neat
>Ending 2, that was ass
>Reload
>Beat Stephen on War
>Very neat

The only grind was that fundraiser quest the first time through. That money was well spent though. Any demons that needed leveling were boosted through those exp items I had a ton of
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>>158481536
Paid dlc is bullshit but she's worth it

I love how pissed she sounds when she dies
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>>158482597
Or... Get this anon, imagine this anon.
I just won't grind and... Do something else. Just don't bother and play a game I want to play.

OR save myself the effort and get the DLC to cut the grinding to a few minutes because grinding 5 hours for my internet cred means jackshit to me.

>>158482364
>>158482787
>have all skills
>have to figure out what fuses into what fodder to figure out the final 2-3 combinations which will finally get the demon you need
>oh btw you also need a shit ton of cash

Grinding.

Once again, nah.
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>>158483095
You can do whatever the fuck you want anon

But it's a fact that to beat Stephen on War you don't need the cheat dlc and you don't need to grind excessively

All I did was play the game to see all the content then use up all my extra shit and take on the man in the wheelchair
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>>158483008
I have a huge boner for women in Egyptian-themed clothing. Cleopatra's design is seriously the best. Probably my favorite design in the whole franchise.
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>>158483348
I love the eye makeup a lot
is there a specific name for the style? I could only ever dig up "kohl" for the substance apparently used.
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>>158481885
If there was a reliable way to get HP incense without breaking out the wallet i'd give it a try and start up Apocalypse difficulty
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>there are people on /smt/ RIGHT NOW without a CFW
>there are people on /smt/ RIGHT NOW that played Apocalypse with the English dub and endured Nozomi's awful dub voice and dialogue
>there are people on /smt/ RIGHT NOW that PAID for DLC
LMAOOOOO
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>>158483880
Nozomi's dub is well done, the script is just atrocious.
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>>158483880
faggot etc

inb4 mad etc
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Why do people think Nanashi is as powerful as Demifiend?
Demifiend's power is said to grow after destroying his own world's possibility of creation. Kagutsuchi is said to be dead in that world. Accepting that fact, what Lucifer actually did was make Demi-fiend an eternal Godslayer. Demi-fiend can kill any and all deities and he can only ever be sealed away since no human is strong enough to beat him. Even if he were somehow beaten, he'd come back.
Also, Demifiend beat Lucifer, Kagutsuchi (a powerful aspect of YHVH), and 3 other gods all on his own.
Nanashi needs the assistance of Dagda's power-up, his goddess, Satan, and Flynn to take down YHVH. Demifiend did it himself and it was after slaughtering three other deities.
Judging from the game's as a story perspective the power levels should be:

Demifiend >= Aleph + Hiroko > YHVH = Nanashi + Dagda power-up + Goddess + Flynn + Satan >>>>>>> 4 Archangels > SMT1 Hero
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Cleopatra keeps kicking my shit in. Any tips, fampai?
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>>158484138
>demifiend
>stronger than aleph

lmaoing at your life
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>>158483880
>there are people on /smtg/ RIGHT NOW who think being a gatekeeper and arbiter of "true gamer" status is fine as long as they personally profess to being Chaos
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who here using parties of waifu demons only?
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>>158484419
I would except lolaffinities
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>>158484595
You can max those by doing Twisted Tokyo a bunch. Get strong and earn your waifus
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>>158484656
>can increase affinity strength by doing TT
bullshit how
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>>158484783
Fiends can drop battle plans that will boost an affinity by 1

example Support battle plan

But it will only work on your demon if it already has a positive affinity to begin with

You also need to buy the TT dlc to fight them more than once
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>>158484958
>You also need to buy the TT dlc to fight them more than once
Are you sure? I pirated the DLC I bought the game, fuck off but I assumed the DLC was just there for the extra cycles and super boss and you could still fight the fiends unlimited times, they just wouldn't drop their cycle completion rewards.
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>>158485279
Well, that's what I had heard. I didn't bother to go back. Some shit about the fiends not resetting even on new game+

but for the purposes of grinding out plans if they don't drop rewards they're useless
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>>158484138
Kagutsuchi has nothing to do with YHVH. He doesn't even exist outside of a vortex world.

And Demifiend doesn't even kill Lucifer, he just passes Lucifer's test and then Lucifer stops.
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>hero
>weakest
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Yhvh dungeon, magic stat doors in the 1st brane, massacre route.
Google-fu says I should only need 100 mag, im at 121 in case it doesnt count equipment.
Still cant open the door. Wat do?
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>>158486786
he's the most human one out of the bunch, so
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>>158487948
Humans are the ones who inevitably kick the most ass though.

At least the ones with hidden potential like Hero.
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>>158483880
What's the matter, homeslice?
It was a pretty good dub, Nozomi is a shit character regardless. Asahi and Toki were done well, Krishna and Dagda and Odin were excellent.
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okay maybe i missed something but why can flynn use magic? demifiend and nanashi i get cause of the demon powers, but why isn't flynn like hero and aleph?
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>>158488558
Demonic Gene, i assume.
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>>158487948
>crushing a rock with his bare hands
>most human
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>>158488558
Because he's not the main character, like how Heroine, Chaos Hero, and Law Hero could use magic.
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Why isn't there a simple fucking list for where to get certain equipment in SMTIVA? I need a ring for my MC to null charm but I can't find one. My only other option would be to find something to increase the effectiveness of my mute rounds, but I don't know if that exists.
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>>158488558
Don't the Samurai cast magic through their gauntlets? I always figured it's some sort of half summoning. In IVA when Asahi heals you she always does so through her demons, Isabeau on the other hand doesn't have that demon pop up and casts the spells herself.
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>>158488802
Not sure where in the game you are but you can buy accessories that block Charm in both Kasumigaseki and the members only shop in Ginza at 7/8 Moon and later. Dunno if they pop up somewhere else earlier
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Anyone here actually do the higher Twisted Tokyo runs?
I'm wondering if a balanced party can do even the lv999 run or if I have to make demons tailor made for each of the fiends at that point. I'm just starting to prepare for my first run through and I'd hate to have to farm Incense all over after finding out my demon selection was shit. Right now I plan to start by making these two, dunno what to put in my 3rd slot just yet but it'd have to be a physical DPS, maybe Satan?

Inanna
-Raging Hellfire
-Raging Blizzard
-Raging Lightning
-Raging Tempest
-Luster Candy
-High Elec Pleroma
-High Force Pleroma
-Enduring Soul

Cleopatra
-Dazzle Ray
-Luster Candy
-Alluring Banter
-Salvation
-Light Pierce
-High Light Pleroma
-Enduring Soul
-Drain Dark
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>>158414565
>Walter and Johnathon finally back to normal.
>Yfw ''MY FRIENDS ARE A BIT DIFFERENT''
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>>158483880
>there are people on /smt/ RIGHT NOW that PAID for DLC
This is the only real sin I'm seeing.
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>>158489742
This is why nukes are needed
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If strange journey got a 3ds port like Devil Survivor and Devil Survivor 2, what would it be called? Stranger Journey?
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>>158490281
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Would Riot Gun or Myriad Arrows be better at 999 Dex?
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>>158490779
power button is the superior choice
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For all the EUfags in this thread: DeSu 1 and 2 and Soul Hackers are all on sale for pretty cheap!
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>Beat David
>He doesn't drop his gun
FUCKKKKKKKK

What's the best bazooka aside from the one Trumpter drops? I'm trying to find the gun with the highest number of hits to give me a better chance at inflicting status effects.
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>>158490281
Uncommon Happenings.
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>>158490281
Strange Journey: Bizarre Adventure
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What's /smtg/ opinion about Jack Bros?
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>>158490281

Persona: Strange Journey

To help it sell you see

and it'll release to rave reviews among westeners

>Finally a persona game with an adult cast
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>>158491648
It's fun, but literally impossible to play as Jack Frost because your health is a ticking down time limit and Jack Frost has ridiculously weak attack power.

Jack Ripper is broken.
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>>158491648
Wasn't Jack bros the first translated SMT? Are there any copies left?
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>>158490281
Dumb Marines Journey to Antarctica: Super Ultra Strange Mega Beautiful Edition
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Post yfw hashtag will get a sequel.
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>>158492351
So what if it does, mate? It just means that those shitty developers are occupied on TMS2 that they wont touch any other games.

Besides, no SMT fan will buy it so we have nothing to lose.
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>>158492351
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>>158492840
>DeSu-team
>shitty developers
Also you never played the game. Otherwise you should've knows that TMS is hardest megaten since 2010, just right before Final.
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where 2 cop best bazooka?
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>>158493160
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>>158493324
stop replying you idiot
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>>158492840
>Besides, no SMT fan will buy it
19 games megatenist here. I bought it. It was great. Greater than P5 actually.
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>>158493472
You played P5?
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>>158493386
Not him, but to be fair TMS is a fairly difficulty game on higher difficulties.

>>158493472
You wizard, I'm only 12 SMTfag here.
I need to play through purse owner.
>>
Fuck's sake Hamaon and Mudoon have ridiculous hitrate in Nocturne.
I guess it's my fault because I forgot to change magatama when it turned out I can't fight Hell Biker yet.
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>>158493324
>meme picture instead of argument
Great job, manchild. Next time try harder pls.
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>>158493160
>just right before Final.

Apocalypse is a fucking breeze though
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>>158493690
>>
Wait, so you can skip almost all of 4th brane?
The fuck?
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>>158493806
Yeah, as long as you have the blue and yellow locks removed you can walk right up to yhvh like you own the place
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>>158493705
Everything is a breeze after SJ m8
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>>158493926
Do keys transfer to ng+?
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>>158493587
Game is out since September.
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>>158494221
no, it's more of an unlock than a key

But the dungeon takes like 10-15 minutes from start to finish if you follow this map

>>158447804
>>
smtg discord where?
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>>158494304
Yeah, in Japan.
You import?
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>>158495573
Pirated it.
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>>158494989
I could make one. Give me a few hours, I'm not at home.
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>>158483430
>is there a specific name for the style?
Sexy.
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>>158483880
I bought IV and IVA
Pirated the DLC because fuck you I'm not paying for post-game grinding
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>>158496345
I could make a bot for it if it gets made.
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>>158414565
>All the other Demons and Gods chill out after YHVH eats it and just hang out with mankind

I'm sorry Dagda, but this is the ending I always wanted.
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>>158493160
>DeSu team
>good
Lmaoing at your life newfag
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>>158496669
>tfw no Divine Powers ending where you cuck flynn out of being godlslayer and become Krishna's kaulki

>tfw no special Vishnunanashi form
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>>158496797
More like Vishnunashitter
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>>158496473
Picture unrelated?
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>>158496885
delet
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>>158488796
I always wondered if they were intended to be using magic or if they had demons that just weren't shown. There's not really any reason for them to be able to do magic.
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>>158498139
>or if they had demons that just weren't shown

They would say Behold my demons and My demons are a bit different
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>>158498238
But they barely say anything anyway.
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Can anyone confirm whether Doping still boosts your HP further when you are already at 9999HP base in Apocalypse?
I just read it increases HP further and just doesn't display it, is that true?
If so I guess I'll have to redo my demons and slot Doping somewhere
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>>158498139
Nope, because having a comp in 1 with the devil summoning program was a huge deal. Ozawa alone getting one let him take over an entire district with no possible opposition.
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>>158499361
But casting spells isn't it?
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Will Devil Survivor 3 exist before 2021?
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>>158499807
who fucking cares my man I just want persona 7 already
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Cleopatra is seriously fucking me up. She can be muted but it seems to be really fucking unreliable. Resistances don't seem to matter since her light spell pierces, and if I use Makarakarn she just goes double Megidiloan.
>>
SMT: RTS edition

Post your plot ideas
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>>158500187
spam pretas win game
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>>158499361
>no one retained a computer in those 25 years except for like 5 guys
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>>158500298
I would wildly assume only one wave of emails about the program were sent out

and that the vast majority of those emails were disregarded as obvious spam, and deleted.
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What's up with the meme that SMTG is organising a discord to have their group masturbation sessions?

Honestly, fuck off.
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>>158500187
Three races not unlike Starcraft: Law, Neutral, Chaos
The White mobs
Angel units for Law, Hunter/Demon Buster units for Neutral, Demon units for Chaos
RTS genre isn't notorious for plot
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>>158500187
>>158500481
This. The campaign can put you in the role of a leader of a human settlement of some kind with Neutral units, and you know plot happens and you eventually get the choice to go Law or Chaos. Standard SMT stuff, except RTS.
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>>158475624
Lucifer
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I was thinking of buying this, what do you say /smtg/ ?
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>>158500143
iirc she can't clear debuffs

you do have her at -3 right?
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>>158500942
why? you can play the game for free on your computer. translated.
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>>158500298
key was to having the program though

>Stephen uploaded the program to megaupload
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>>158501023
Because the case looks cool.
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>>158501023
>tfw have boxed SMT1, 2, IF, Majiten, but not KMT or Spiral Nemesis
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>>158501114
makes you wonder why Steven didn't keep copies in somewhere like terminals or messed around during the years leading up to SMT1 nuked Tokyo.
>tfw you'll never be some guy who was able to keep a comp or physical copy of the program
>you'll never make scrap computers with the summoning program installed to sell for a cheap buck
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so whats the tech to not have the protagonist be a item dispenser in Strange Journey? I'm about to start playing and I want him to actually do damage.
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>>158502472
From what I have heard, Lots of save and reloading
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>>158502472
Wait until 80% of the game is done with and craft a Meteor Dragoon.
Proceed to solo everything but Mem Aleph because that's literally impossible, but by then you're LV99 so you can make a party of whatever.
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>>158502472
>didnt get the SJ hero as a candy dispenser joke
>finally start SJ and fight the lion boss, after one fireshot I have to keep healing with items since i'm the fastest and the boss can finish a demon or me in two hits
>your post
fucking memes, I understand now
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is soul hackers worth getting?
I like SMT games and I feel I could dig the setting but I'm worried it might feel too dated
does it hold up at all in the current year?
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>>158502920
>>158502785
>>158502630
>>158502472
But what do you do if you run out of items in Strange journey?
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>>158503128
buy more
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>>158503091
Soul Hackers is good shit.
The only thing that really felt dated was the MAG system, but that isn't much of an issue if you use your demons carefully.
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>>158503091
It's perfectly playable, it has a a casual "save anywhere" feature, it has a compendium, and plenty of means to learn how to play the game and understand its features.

I don't know if that sounds "dated" to you.
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>>158503347
>>158503460
well that sound quite alright
I'm just cautious about paying for saturn games on 3ds in general
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twisted tokyo is such a boring timesink
its so cheap and the dlc boss doesnt even have a portrait.
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Is there somewhere that has the Majin Tensei script with kanji added? I'm not so great at looking up stuff on the Japanese side of the internet yet.
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>>158500942
i like this game

so buy it
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>>158500942
Yeah. I think you could patch the English version onto that, too.
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>>158505423
>ruining an original cartridge
pls
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>>158503347
>>158503460
oh one last thing, how's the sound/music in it?
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>>158505805
Good shit.
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Why do any of theses fuckers care about Earth and people on Earth when we're so small, tiny, and short-lived?
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>>158505805
I don't want to blow it out of proportions. But it has one of the best OST of the series.

The sound effects are cool and might give you 90s nostalgia.
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>>158506290
By "these fuckers", I presume you mean gods and demons? Well, they care about humans because humans are the source of demons and gods. Humans have a huge affect on demonkind.
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>>158483880
>there are people on /smtg/ right now that care about how and what others enjoy
I'm a piratefag but you're a retardedfag
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>>158507865
I'm a buyfag and I agree
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It seems strange that Walter is fine with neurishers, but thinks it's absurd when people are used for harvesting red pills.
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>Anarchy is an edgelord's wet dream
>Peace is literally "BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS"
Where is the route for people with taste?
>>
>>158508214
Law and chaos.
Closest you get to siding with YVHV.
Sadly no divine powers
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>>158508214
Law, of course.
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>>158508298
I think Krishna was a faggot but my autism is annoying he didn't get a route, makes the game feel incomplete.
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>>158508106
well, pills are kinda farmed,
but being a neurisher is up to you
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>>158508380
Why would anyone want to be a neurisher?
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>>158508106
free
will

Same reason he doesn't give a shit that Gabriel dropped the caste system, you guys don't seem to get why he hated the caste system
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>>158508484
I'd be a neurisher for a cute demon girl.
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>>158508543
It was because the moment you were born your path in life was already set for you with no way of changing that right?
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>Zayin is to the south
>go south
>dont see him

Where the fuck is this guy?
>>
>>158508867
Yeah, and neurishers chose to be slaves instead of struggling
And all Gabriel does is drag the luxurors down to casualry status because she's afraid of subversive thoughts
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>>158508106
The other people who replied made good arguments, but mostly it's that Walter goes off the deep end right after the first route split.
>>
question about SMTIV
I did a blind playthrough, liked it a lot
I wanna see the other endings, is it ok to follow a walktrough on subsequent playthroughs? From what I heard it's easy to miss the boat just playing blind.
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>>158508543
I know why he hated the caste system. It was because people couldn't move up while in the caste system. He is fully in favor of huge class inequality as long as you are able to get into a higher class with your STR. I believe that line of thinking is stupid, but whatever.
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>>158509616
funny how the caste system went away when merky took over
makes you think hmmm
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>>158509564
Which ending did you get?

The only ending you might want to use a walkthrough for is Neutral, the others are pretty easy to get.
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>>158509616
Inequality is the wholly unavoidable natural state of things
All that matters is how superior status is rendered, by your own ability, or by an angel that everyone refuses to question because muh tradition
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>>158509616
But the Casualries CAN get into a higher caste with their STR, they just have to revolt and win.

World of STR is dumb because it's literally just how the world is, so what are you even fighting for?
>>
After just finishing Nocturne as my first SMT game I continued on to IV and what the hell is with this difficulty? I literally don't have any chance if the enemy goes first, they just oneshot my entire party. I'm doing the first challenge quests and it seems that the boss always goes first. Should I just be grinding? I thought SMT wasn't supposed to have grinding.
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>>158509675
Now I can become a slave of the angels instead of the luxurors, yay!
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>>158509884
To kill the people you don't like quasi-legally.

Society doesn't allow murder in the name of STR
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>>158509884
world of str is the rebellion
and because the majority of the causalries are useless fucks who are okay with slavery and therefor impose it upon individuals like Walter, it's okay to trample over their kingdom
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>>158509564
The Chaos and Law Endings are pretty easy and straightforward to get. The Neutral Route, which is pretty much considered the "True" Ending since it's the longest and most fleshed out is a huge balancing act since you have to end up pretty exactly in the middle between the other two alignments. Getting it yourself without any help is plenty possible but it's a bit of a pain and more hassle than it's worth, I'd recommend looking at a guide for that.
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>>158510008
Okay, so what do chaosfags want after the rebellion? I know Lucifer makes Flynn the king of Mikado in IV, but what's the point of a king in a society that's supposed to be about absolute freedom?
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>>158509928
Naraku is the most unbalanced part of the game. Persevere and the difficulty evens out.
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>>158510184
I think that in chaos anyone can become the king if they are strong enough instead of one guy being king and there is no way of changing that.
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>>158509718
I did the one where I decided to end the universe to be free from the machinations of a certain someone
not quite sure which one that was
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>>158510163
I got this one >>158510297
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>>158510008
Nothing wrong with peasants killing nobles. Nobles only got their titles through birth and circumstance.

Back in the days when monarchs were extreme jackasses with short rules murder was justified
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>>158510184
They illustrate this in the game dude. Basically they want things to be like Infernal Tokyo. A king that "rules" the place that is constantly challenged by other people for his position.
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>>158510297
White ending. Simply choosing not to do that (if you still have your save you might just want to reload to avoid replaying the whole game) will get you one of the other three, either Law, Neutral, or Chaos. Law is Jonathan's side, and Chaos is Walter's side, so it should be pretty obvious how to get those. And then Neutral is the difficult one you may need a guide for.
>>
>>158510552
>>158510291
You can already attempt this, but I suppose that Infernal Tokyo is set up so that it's easier to do? I still don't see what the king is there for. If he starts imposing rules then aren't we slipping into Lawfag territory or at the last Neutral territory?
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>>158510163
>got LAW because I wanted to be a good guy and didn't do shit I didn't agree with
>that ending
had me bummed out but I do tend to gravitate towards LAW anyway so I guess I shouldn't be surprised but it still felt like a punch in the gut.
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>>158510807
Think about it like this. Chaos allows people to do whatever they want to do, as long as they have the STR. Becoming a king is something that some people want to do. So as long as they have the STR to do that, they can do it.
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>>158511027
And the presence of demons and a society founded on the principle of violence keeps humans from getting complacent toward any particular rule for at least a few generations
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>>158511027
But then you get situations like IV Infernal Tokyo, where Akira becomes king and intends to enact a more lawful regime. Pure World of STR doesn't seem like a sustainable idea.
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>>158511145
thats what the neutral endings tell you, and somewhat the whole deal with apocalyse/final.
pure law or chaos is stupid, as someone will always deviate to the other option.
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>>158510959
LAW is the best route manchild, don't let anyone sway you.
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>>158511476
people can be redeemed dude, just lock down tokyo harder and implement a method to allow the redeemed to go to the surface or at least send their kids up there

no need to obliterate all those innocent lives
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>>158510662
I think I have it save in another slot, although not sure since I started ng+
I suppose I'll have me a walk trough this time around

also, anybody has the map of tokyo with the routes and paths and landmarks and such?
navigating it is such a damn chore, literally the only thing I truly hate about this game
>>
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>>158511732
>>158511732
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>>158511367
>pure law or chaos is stupid, as someone will always deviate to the other option.

Not in Mastema's world of law, it won't.
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>>158511926
>lady gaga ending
that one is actually hell
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>>158475453
The characters get their healing powers from gods/demons
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