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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

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>>158278227
I want to fuck Hiroko
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>>158278253
She has a dick
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>>158278227
Who wouldn't.
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Toki makes my heart go doki doki
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>>158278316
She doesn't though.
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>>158278314
>the first time you meet Chiaki after the apocalypse she is scared and trying to figure out what to do
>the second time you meet her, she explains about her ideal world in a reasonable way
>the third time you meet her, she is batshit insane and treats you like shit

It's not fair, bros.
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>>158278630
chiaki is a shit girl. bad choice

she treats you like nothing and doesn't help out at all even before the conception occurs
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>>158278630
Picture and reply unrelated btw.
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What's best equipment for heroine in SMT1?
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white were right
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>>158278630
To be fair, she also loses her arm at some point, and surviving that ordeal likely changed her thought processes dramatically.
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>>158278630
I don't recall her ever mistreating the protagonist. Even if you become her enemy she's respectful about it.
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Reading more of that article from earlier and came across this:

>You have the metaphor of Tokyo--the quintessential Japanese city--literally buried by the angels of Christianity, the dominant religion of the western world. The concept of living "under the sun," promulgated by former Counter-Demon Force (an implicit stand-in for the real Self-Defense Force) members. Political strife between authoritarian and anarchist parties have given way to a united front for independence from both. It's no small wonder that the Shin Megami Tensei IV subseries is seen as a politically charged fiction; IV itself comes off as an allegory for Japanese independence from American imperialism. I'm not exactly thrilled to see what Apocalypse might hold on this front, given that in the intervening years since IV Prime Minister Abe has put into motion some very unsubtle machinations to eliminate Article 9 entirely.

Yay more Nippon Banzai
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>>158279503
>christian angels are the only ones occupying japan
>angels are only in christianity
>law is a christian faction because yhvh is the boss
>IV itself comes off as an allegory for Japanese independence from American imperialism.
Who wrote this garbage?
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Reminder that DDS is the est SMT
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>>158280172
Where the fuck does he say they are the ONLY ones?
And how is the nippon banzai propaganda not a thing when the game literally shoves it in your fucking face? The only one that's talking like a fag and all retarded here is you.
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>>158280306
>-literally buried by the angels of Christianity, the dominant religion of the western world
He implies it right there. It's like he hasn't even played the game.
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>>158280391
How is christianity not the dominant fucking religion in the western world? The fuck are you? A jewish shitstain? Or a fucking sandnigger subhuman?
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>>158280276
I played like 2 hours of it last night. Story seems really cheesy and the animations are pretty bad, i'm also kind of turned off from not being able to recruit and fuse demons. Does the game get any better?

I really like the locations and the music, at least
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>>158280438
>missing the point this hard
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>>158280572
>>>/oven/
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>>158280572
This isn't hotwheelschan faggot.
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>Demon availability in Apocalypse is fairly skewed in alignment composition, at about a 3:2:1 ratio of Neutral:Chaos:Law demons.

Wurld of NTR
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>>158280882
Law needs a revamp in the next game. So far it's the absolute shittiest alignment with the fewest and worst demons
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>>158280971
Atlus clearly hates Law, they're always portrayed as the dickiest of all factions, even in SMT2 since Satan fires the death star anyway.
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>>158280971
That's easy all you have to do is make YHVH like he was in DeSu and add more demons.
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>>158281071
>That's easy all you have to do is make *record scratch* like he was in DeSu and add more demons.
Who?

Seriously speaking though, Japan doesn't seem to like DeSu1.
DeSu2 sold much better and was way more popular, even got a fucking anime while DeSu1 has nothing.
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>>158281325
Japan has shit taste, what else is new?
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>lawfags think it's okay to kill someone if it means benefiting others

lel
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>>158281460
The best solution is to stop the train.
If the train can't be stopped, killing one person is better than killing five.
However if it is an important person while the group are unimportant it's better to save the one instead.
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>>158281460
The correct answer is multi track drifting
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>>158281325
YHVH
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>>158281460
I actually was a lawfag up until I played SJ and realized that Law is full of power-hungry assholes.
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>>158281591
>*record scratch*
This ain't funny anon
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>>158281517
>However if it is an important person while the group are unimportant it's better to save the one instead.

you can't measure the importance of a persons life
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>>158281630
I'm not that anon though, just answered since it went over your head.
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>>158281618
I don't recall there being any power hungry assholes in SJ besides Lucifer and Jimenez.
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>>158281716
>you can't measure the importance of a persons life
You can.
This will be a more extreme example but a valid one nonetheless:
Assume the 5 man group are all common thugs or thieves.
Assume the single person holds knowledge that's important to developing cure for cancer.

In this case it's better to save the single person rather than the thugs.
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>>158281824
>Metatron
But that's Mastema with Betatron mask.

That reminds me, google what Aramaic Enoch Scroll is and fume with rage at the jewish heresy that decided to hide it from public.
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>>158281824
Pretty sure Mastema gets mad at you in the non-law routes because no world of law means no promotion for him. Also Demiurge with his whole "WORSHIP ME" thing and Zelenin while not being power-hungry is creepy as fuck with that song of hers.
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?Dagda: She can't hear me, kid. Tell her we need to get a move on. How do you think she'll feel when more of your friends die because she was too busy wallowing in self-pity to help?
>You place your hand on Asahi's shoulder and remind her that you need to hurry.
>Asahi: You're right. Can't let more Hunters die! Let's go, Nanashi.

>It's interesting that Apocalypse calls out the idea of dwelling on the past, when Shin Megami Tensei IV's entire rhetoric was derived from it as the successor to Shin Megami Tensei and II--in general defiance of Nocturne. Everything from the archaic alignment system down to the 1/256 Fiend superbosses was designed to ape a lost golden age. It was Megaten's Digimon Adventure tri. or Pokémon Go, years before either franchise would jump on board with those. As usual, Megaten stands at the forefront, questioning whether all this was really a good idea or not.

I think the comparison to Pokemon Go is too extreme for obvious reasons but SMT4 aped SMT1 and 2 pretty hard, no doubt about it.
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>>158281826
In an extreme scenario, sure, it could be acceptable to kill 5 thugs if it means curing cancer.

But the train scenario is assuming that both parties are equal. You can either
A:Do nothing and not be responsible for any deaths.
B: Kill 1 human so 5 others can live.

Is farming reds the best choice? Demons would stop eating humans of tokyo but in return you would have to sacrifice a portion of human lives.
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>>158282416
>But the train scenario is assuming that both parties are equal.
I know, that's why I said the first priority should be stopping the train and if that's impossible it's better to save the 5 by killing 1. Doing nothing is the same as killing 5 to save 1.
Apathy is death.
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Gonna ask this here since /pg/ is pretty awful with waifufaggotry and offtopic.

Are the P3 movies worth watching?
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>>158282508
>Doing nothing is the same as killing 5 to save 1
No it's not. You're literally just standing there observing, you have no obligation to do anything. No one would ever willingly want to save one random person over 5 other random people.
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Where would you prefer to live?

Mikado or Tokyo?

Try to argument your decision.
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Anyone have a good mastema artwork for me?
I can't find anything bigger than 500 and I searched for a while with my google fu.
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What is the origin of this symbol?
What does it mean?
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>>158282661
>No it's not. You're literally just standing there observing, you have no obligation to do anything.
Wrong faggot.
Doing nothing is compliant with murder.

Wanna know who used the same excuse as you or "bbbut I was merely a bystander, I didn't actually participate"? War criminals in WW2.

>No one would ever willingly want to save one random person over 5 other random people.
Obviously, but the train is clearly going to hit the 5 man group rather than the single person.
Ergo as a human being you should save the 5 by sacrificing the one.
By not saving the 5 you're dooming them to die and thus are guilty in part.

You're the same cancer as people on the streets who would willingly look at others getting mugged or worse yet stabbed to death because they don't care to intervene.
>lol its not my problem

Fuck you.
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>>158282668
Tokyo. Then I could become a Demon Fucker
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>>158282709
Shit Megagay Tenis
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>>158282668
Tokyo because it goes Infernal hopefully in my timeline and I get to become a cool Demonoid
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>>158282801
>>158282858
Chaosfag scum

>tfw I'd rather just live on the surface in comfyness
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>>158282668
Do I get to speak whatever tongue is most common in Tokyo/Mikado(I assume it's Japanese/Degenerated Japanese).

I'm pretty sure the angels would kill me because I'm part of a breed of humanity that doesn't fucking exist anymore. So I'll take my chances with tokyo.


Were there any Americans/Foreigners that weren't demons in SMT IV? Like tourists who were in Tokyo when the firmament went up or any mention of people like that?
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>>158282823
please, I need to know it's really important
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>>158282967
Assume you can speak any language you want and can belong to any faction you want, so you can choose to be a Hunter for example in Tokyo or Luxuror in Mikado if you so wish or a simple farmer instead if that's your desire.
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>>158282994
I don't know lol
Seriously, I don't.
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>>158282594
Well I haven't seen them but A-1 is pretty shitty so I'll say no.
What's the point of watching a game already full or dialogue anyway?
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>>158278779
Guys?
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>>158282905
And do what?

Plow fields like a faggot?
Sit around a boring city doing nothing all day?
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>>158283127
I don't care about opinions of people that haven't watched them so you can go kindly fuck off
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>>158282801
>>158282858
>>158282967
>choosing tokyo
Have fun with Sanat/Ancient of Days
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>>158283137
>not enjoying a comfy and calm life
Faggot
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>>158283169
>studio is known for poor work across the board
>YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S SHIT WITHOUT SEEING IT
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>>158283258
>comparing low budget shoestring rushed TV animes to high budget home release movies
And that's why you neeed to get cancer and die
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>>158244943
Post the other vocaroos please?
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>>158282763
>Doing nothing is compliant with murder.
You're saying that regardless of what you do, you're a murderer just because you happened to stumble upon an unfortunate situation.
So despite which option you pick you always end up guilty?


>You're the same cancer as people on the streets who would willingly look at others getting mugged or worse yet stabbed to death because they don't care to intervene.
I agree that you should intervene with that because the mugger already caused trouble.
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>>158283016
Assuming I don't get any special bullshit protag powers, a simple comfy life in Mikado as a Luxuror sounds like the best option.

I'm not strong. I never held a weapon in my life. And I died loads of times in SMT IV/IVA and this has no resets either or infinite grinding time. As fun as getting my own cadre of demon bros sound, I'd be dead meat during the divine power assaults.

Of course this depends on when I'm inserted into the story. I could theoretically do a lot of good for Tokyo using my knowledge of the plot. I might have time to warn the factions of the divine powers/get Ame no hibikari before the divine powers have a change to destroy the Forrest.
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>>158283174
have fun turning into a demon because you read your favourite manga.
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>>158282668
tokyo. having freedom is more convenient to me then whatever mikado has to offer.
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Macca Beam.
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> mfw the opening cutscene of triangulum thursday in record breaker
That kind of corruption terrifies me on an exsistential level. Jesus christ.
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>>158283454
The citizens of Mikado turned into demons because knowledge of a world outisde of mikado broke them so hard that they went anime crazy .

Also demon genes, if that's canon. So you would be in quite a bit of danger.
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>>158283535
Whatya mean? I never played desu2
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>>158283323
surprise, A-1 have made more movies than just Persona related ones.
One's I've seen and they are dogshit.
You say I don't know shit therefore I need to die, but you know even less.
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>>158280971
Atlus treats them like shit.
>Reason Tokyo gets wiped off twice and Gaians act more empathetic to the masses
>Kills hero
>Nukes earth and created YVHV tyrants
>created vortex world
>Reason for IV's and IVA's worlds
>Reasons for action less convincing that most Chaos or Neutral sidings-Demons can be chill and reasonable or humans should be free to have their own agency
I like law demons and some of the views there as well.
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>>158283578
Based on the trailers P3 movies animation looks much better than any other animated turd I've seen therefore you're wrong.
Either way you're a moron with irrelevant opinions since you didn't actually watch them.
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>>158283568
Data corruption complete with horrible white noise and broken, distorted voices.
It only happens in the extra scenario in the 3DS release of DeSu2 though.
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>>158283675
I see, thanks.
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>>158283637
Not him but I've watched them.
Only worthwhile ones are first and fourth.
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>>158283737
How bad are 2 and 3 and why exactly? Feel free to throw spoilers around since I already played P3FES.
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Anyone interested in entering a /smtg/ team into this?

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_7_Signups
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>>158283786
Mostly the adaptation of some of the material feels a bit rushed mainly. They're ok movies overall but 4 did that death scene well.
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>>158283842
>Football
Out with you normalfag
>>>/sp/
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>>158283842
what is this? what does it have to do with megaten?
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>>158283845
Main story material rushed as well or do you mean irrelevant stuff like social links?
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>>158283612
>not mentioning sj law
Having your entire psyche destroyed and becoming a brainless puppet that can only think about praising the Lord is pretty fucked up. It feels like the game mocks you after this happens to your crewmates because they get on their knees to kiss your feet and say you're the best for showing them the true way.
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>>158283637
Well if A-1s animation and writing are spectacular to you then go ahead.
I've seen clips too, anyone with an interest in Persona 3 has and they really aren't impressive or don't add anything to the game.
A trailer is designed to sell something to you, of course it's going to look decent.

I've seen 23 tv series and 3 A-1 movies and they are quite consistently below average.
So I think "irrelevant opinion" is a little strong.
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>>158283908
>football
It's called soccer you mongol
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>>158283978
>So I think "irrelevant opinion" is a little strong.
For me the only thing that matters is experience with particular thing, you didn't watch the movies ergo you don't know anything about them beyond your own very clearly biased speculation ergo your opinion ain't worth shit.
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>>158281517
>If the train can't be stopped, killing one person is better than killing five.
You aren't killing anyone unless you pull the lever.
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>>158284024
No, it's called football you subhuman amerifat, go get cancer and die.

>>158284032
Yes you are, since the train won't magically stop on it's own and thus will kill someone. You get to decide that outcome. By doing nothing you are guilty in part.
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>>158284024
>there are people in this thread that aren't living in the freest country on earth
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>>158284097
>Murrifatland
>a literal israeli sock puppet state
>free
Hearty chuckle
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>>158284079
Oh look, a triggered 3rd world yuroslime. Kill yourself.
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>>158284164
How's that 135 billion debt going on murrifat?
Oh right, you can't tell through all the poisoned chlorine water and pesticide infected GMO "food" you're chomping on.
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>>158284079
>By doing nothing you are guilty in part.
your moral objectives are pretty fucking stupid mate
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>>158284225
Apathy is death, faggot.
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>>158283974
I mean, it's somewhat lessened as Chaos is equally shit but fuck that ending too
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>>158284197
>implying debt is bad
it's more of a status symbol. it just shows how many other countries are investing in us
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>>158284269
That's not how economics work anon.
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OK, guys. Let's do something different.
Post secrets or different opinions you have. I'll start:
I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdvM6Wsr7IU is the best battle theme in IV, and I'm a chaosfag.
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>>158284197
>implying debt exists when you have israel as your greatest ally
There's a reason China doesn't want our cash anymore dumb faggot.
>>158284197
>poisoned chlorine water
Actually I drink water from a local glacier that I visit occasionally to refill my jugs. Also Alex Jones water filters.
>pesticide infected GMO "food" you're chomping on
>what are farmer's markets
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>Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army "Complete" Music Works

>The main battle theme is not on it

Atlus is weird when it comes to OST's. Same thing happened to the level up theme from Nocturne.
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>>158284269
Ladies and gentlemen, american education at work.
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>>158284269
what the fuck
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>>158284028
But to say a particular studio and how they operate doesn't influence the production of work is ludicrous.

It's like movies and directors, it's generally a pretty good mark for what to expect based on the director.
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>>158284306
most economists agree that are debt is beneficial to our relationship with other countries.

I took an economics course. ask me anything
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>>158284462
>most economists agree that are debt is beneficial
Most economists are also idiots that don't know what they're talking about, that's why your country is in debt hell and all you did is just handle even more your hard earned tax money to the big jew. But yeah do tell what an amazing country you live in where water and food are poison, air is polluted to hell, health care is among the worst in the civilized world, government the most corrupt and the country is a literal israeli puppet state.

Thanks but no thanks.
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Right, I've maxed out Bunny's MA. Should I go back to VI now? It's already at 12 for Phys Repel.
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>>158285017
That is all you need, go boost Ag.
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Jesus fuck
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>>158285307
I want to fuck that boyo
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>>158285307
What am I suppose to be looking at?
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>>158285387
A stupidly overleveled player with stupidly over the top autistically perfected Alice.
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>>158285387

An image.
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>>158285420
It's really easy to do that though :/
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>>158285453
>:/
Fuck off to tumblr or whatever other shithole you crawled out of
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>>158285487
:(
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>>158285420
>missing dark pleroma and concentrate in favor of dex alice for some reason

Nah.
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>>158285594
Dex is a perfectly viable build in Apocalypse.
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Anyone know if you're able to make an invincible Titania in Record Breaker like you could in the DS one?
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>>158283526
Stop triggering me.
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There are so many books here...It's like a wonderland...
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I love fighting Daisoujou as early as possible in Nocturne.
It's almost entirely luck in the most enjoyable way.
I also appreciate a boss that doesn't have Dekunda/Dekaja
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>>158285487
>getting this triggered

lol
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mainline smt with qt female protag when?
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Soul hackers is on sale for £8 here. Is it worth it? I'm assuming from the screenshots it uses the old smt 1 type battle system. Is it just another law/chaos fest?
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>>158287597

Yes it's worth it

Soul Hackers has only one ending.
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>>158287250
Amazing butt.
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>>158287597
SH is linear and doesn't have law/chaos/neutral routes.
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>>158285307
>tfw I have the exact same guy in my dds list
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Chaos wants to change the world to where the strong can shape it as they please right? Well isn't that what most of law is? How is YHVH any different from Chaos? YHVH is strong and he's changing the world.
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>>158287597
Yes.

SH only uses the alignment of demons for gameplay purposes.
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>>158287649
>>158287709
that actually sounds like a nice change for once after slogging through 3 and 4. A'ight i'm doing it.
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>>158287739
Walter is pulling that outfit off much better than Lucy ever could.
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>>158285594
>those legs
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>>158287771
Enjoy fast dungeon crawlan, simple but nice story, absolutely amazing music and great aesthetic.
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>>158287843
If there's one thing I actually enjoyed about smt 1 it was the 1st person dungeon exploring. And those bassy snes songs.
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>>158287250
looks good!
do you use references for your art?
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>keep restarting my nocturne save because I feel like I fucked up somewhere
I'm never going to finish this fucking thing.
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>>158287931
yes, there's mostly never a reason not to. When I'm more sharp on my lines I usually can manage keeping proportions from work to work, but it usually flutuates a lot because I don't have a fixed style yet.
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Is it safe to assume that you get an extra skill slot for every 25 levels in Final? Why am I always too poor to afford apps?
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>>158288528
Yes.
You get it at 25, 50 and 75.
Nothing at 100 since 99 is max level and level cap removing DLC doesn't give you anything at 100.
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>>158287250
>Zelenin
I love you
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Zelenin chilling
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This one >>158288087
looks better than this one >>158289086 imo
maybe you should try a more cel-shaded sorta look
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>>158289389
this
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>>158289389
>>158289468
gonna try it out on tomorrow's drawing. I'm sort of addicted to soft shading. I need to start from scratch.
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>>158289557
Soft shading is terrible and your tumblr is showing, especially with the nose.
Learn to cel shade you fucking faggot.
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>>158288753
Alright, thanks. I have to save up for those.
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>>158289605
Anon, calm the fuck down jesus.

I'm starting to see why Lesserdraw, Black, and other drawfags fucked off from this thread with people like you being assholes at every open opportunity. Critique is fine but don't be an asshole.

>>158289720
Take off your namefag or whatever you're doing. It's not needed if you aren't doing content.
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>>158289605
why are you so mad, anon
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>>158289772
>I'm starting to see why Lesserdraw, Black, and other drawfags fucked off from this thread with people like you being assholes at every open opportunity.
I feel like it's always the same 1 or 2 guys who actually never post any of their own art so there's that.

>Take off your namefag or whatever you're doing.
Leave him be, if you ignore his name, he's just like any other anon and doesn't attentionwhore per say.
This is to say, it's better to leave him be and ignore his name than start another shitpost fest due to it
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My copy of Strange Journey will arrive soon. Any tips?
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>>158290103
cheat codes
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>>158290103
kill all your friends and save humanity
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>>158290103
co-op attack isn't as important as having a good team.
Doppelganger is mvp
I wish I could play it again. I think it's the one smt I had most fun playing.
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>>158290103
Prepare to be reamed by the hardest game in the series.

Your MC won't be your main damage dealer, he is usually best used as a tanky character who gives out items.
Fuse often, don't leave a floor until you can easily handle everything on that floor.
SAVE OFTEN, SAVE OFTEN, SAVE OFTEN.

Bosses will be manageable until Ouro, after that prepare for why this game is called hardest in the series.
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>>158290247
>hardest game in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1hswYY3h0TUEnokP88kEX6gA-5VAk2wS
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>>158289772
>defending attentionwhores
You're part of the problem
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>>158290247
I think its more of a hard trek during the early game. once I hit sector 3 I was doing fine with most bosses. And you're talking to a guy who finished the game with a overleveled nekomata on his team.
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>>158289772
Just ignore.
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>>158290334
>challenge run that obviously has person knowing in and out of the game
There's people who have done low level runs of Demifiend at this point probably.

It doesn't take away he's a bitch.

>>158290385
I think it's the opposite actually, the early game luls you into security and then Ourobouros reminds you that you need DPS to not auto lose.

Then the other bosses aren't much better.
And oh boy if you go law, you get a ton of ridiculous hard bosses in a row and culminating with Mem the most ridiculous final boss.
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>>158290625
good thing I went Neutral then, had a satisfying ending and all I had to do was sacrifice my crazy ass friends who stopped being human, that blue sky after you clean the schwarzewelt is so soothing after the long journey through it.
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>>158289821
I have a specific request, you mind hearing me out?

>>158290374
>>158290620
Look, I'm not complaining. Dank OC is always welcome, plus he only posts when he has progress on drawings, so it's not quite attentionwhoring.
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>>158290625
>you get a ton of ridiculous hard bosses in a row
When is this?
I went Law my first playthrough and the only bosses I remember struggling on were Jack, Ouroboros, and Mem.
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>>158290884
sure, still plenty of days until the 29th, so I'll still be doing more smt drawings until then
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>>158290990
asherah when
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>>158290967
Jack and Ouro are before the lock.

You have to fight the nigger human messiah and Mem.

Arguably two of the strongest bosses when you're forced to fight them.
Somehow Jimenez is not as strong in Law as he is in neutral, don't ask me why.

Honestly, I might be skewed on which bosses are the hardest due to it being my first SMT but I do think Ouro, nigger messiah, Jack, and Mem are all pretty hard.
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>>158290990
Mind Amane and King of Bel getting freaky.

Or just anything lewd of Mind Amane. Like bigger tits
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>>158291271
>bigger tits

Madman, Yasuda tits are already gravity defying!
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>>158291168
gonna do asherah tomorrow
>>158291271
and amane and Bel the next day.
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>>158290990
Demi-fiend getting butt-fucked.
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>>158291757
Fuck you faggot, neck yourself you degenerate scum
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>>158290990
It's Haru (naked) and Belial after fucking. They're both hugging each other, eyes closed and smiling in the afterglow, bodies pressed against each other, but Belial is holding Haru up in the air because he's so tall compared to her. Haru is still on Belial's cock, some cum flowing down and out of Haru, and Belial is also holding her up, one hand on her back or in her hair, the other on her ass.
Off to the side of the pic, somewhat in the background, have Nebiros with his eyes widened in shock watching, and holding Alice close to his leg with one hand, and the other hand over Alice's eyes. You could have a speech bubble from Alice with her asking "Hey, where's Aunt Haru?" or something.
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>>158291445
Moh Shuvuu doing cute things with Aleph and Alice maybe some day?
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>>158279168
Not really. In fact the fact that she survived only further enforces her insane delusion.

She's a Yuriko tier Gaean.
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>>158291893
man that's too specific, maybe next year.
>>158291907
I knew I was forgetting someone, dang.
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I had a fucking terrifying nightmare, post all kinds of angels to make me feel better /smtg/
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>>158292158
No problem. I look forward to the other shit you'll put out.

Here's something less specific: Anything with Shoji
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>>158283550
It is canon. Demo Genez was always canon. Did you even play the Massacre route path dlc with Demonic Hugo?
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>>158291851
Make me, you cock smoking chuckle fuck.
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>>158292429
>you cock smoking
But you're the one that takes it in the ass, die in a ditch
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>>158292429
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>>158292491
You die in a ditch you burger king kid's club ass bitch.
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>>158292646
What the fuck did you just fucking say about hee, you little ho? I’ll have you ho I grad-hee-ated top of my class in the Navy Heels, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Ho-Heeda, and I have over hee-hundred confirmed kills. I am trained in horilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire Frost armed forces, ho. You are nothing to hee but just another hee-ho target. I will wipe you the hee out with ho the likes of which has never been heen before on this Earth, mark my hee-fucking words, ho. You think you can get away with saying that shit to hee hover the Internet? Th-hee-nk again, fucker. As hee speak I am contacting my heecret network of spies across Tokyo and your I-Hee is being traced right now ho you better prepare for the storm, ho. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little hee-thing you call your hee-ho life. You’re fucking dead, ho. I can hee anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hee-hands. Not only am I ext-hee-nsively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire hosenal of the United States Ma-hee-ne Forces and I will use it to its full heextent to wipe your miserable hee-ho off the face of the continent, you little ho. If only you could have known what un-ho-ly retribution your little “clever” comment was hee-bout to bring down upon you, maybe you would have hee-held your fucking hee-ho. But you hee-couldn’t, you ho-didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn ho. I will hee-ho fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kid-ho.
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>>158292738
I'm gonna unscrew your head and hee-ho down your neck.
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>>158292856
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>>158293021
I'll fuck your ceiling up you little ho.
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>Selling Masakado's Katana
Now I can afford the armour for heroine.
Now time to grind just to get a second railgun.
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>>158289821
Friggin' nice.

And I bet that her jams are better than the SJ OST.
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>>158278879
White were casuals.
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>>158293656
I mean look at it.
You would think it would go for more.
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>>158284316
I like Masakado's battle theme better. But the law themes in IV are really good.
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>>158293806
So I'm not the only one that hated SJ OST?
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>>158284316
I never realized how much of an obvious parallel to Tokyo Millennium they made Mikado. That shot with its triangular framing really nails it.
SMT4 truly is the SMT1/2 reboot.
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>>158292523
Wow, he's fast.
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>>158293806
>>158294019

I'll fite you both faggots, 1v1 me.

3 demons, cute demon girls only, YHVH palace
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>>158284316
>Not Archangel theme
DLC only is a killer.
Why is Raphael so smug?
>>158294119
What makes apocalypse?
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>>158292260
I hope you feel better, son of man.
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>>158294119
Except it's worse in story than SMT1/SMT2.

I hope for the day when they redo SMT1/SMT2, so people can genuinely call them the best games in the series. A remake with SMT4Apoc gameplay (keep first person though) but keeping the main spirit of those games would be 10/10.
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>>158294212
Apocalypse is it's own thing with elements of SMT2 and 3.
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>>158292738
Does anyone have the angel/Mastema variant.
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>>158294201
Sorry but I'm a hardcore item dispenser, so I always fight with FOUR cute demons by my side.

SJ's main battle theme is pretty nice though.
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>>158294301
Thanks anon. I appreciate it.
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>>158283842
That'd be cool, I guess
But I don't know
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Yoh Hoy
Yoh Hoy
A Samurai's life for me
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Downloaded Trinity Soul, what am I in for?
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>>158282709
Based off Greater key if Solomon
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>>158287250
Sweat.jpg
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>>158296394
Persona fanfiction.
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>use Lucky Find
>run around for 15 cycles
>4 Somas and 1 Bead Chain
Finally, a way to actually make money before that one kalpa warp
that I'm too stupid to git gud at
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Is he wrong in thoughts?
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>>158278227
Shin Megami Tensei II iOS localization when
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>>158296017
Clever, very clever.

Have this limited special edition rare Hoy deluxe as a reward.
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>>158297414
You're an idiot for wanting that when superior SNES version exists
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>>158297238
Well they both do that kind of shit, so it's kind of like calling the kettle black to be honest.

>throw the world in disarray with demons everywhere with many being man eaters
>thousands if not millions die from this
>lol it's okay cuz strung serviv

>make flood/shoot laser beam
>thousands if not millions die
>lol it's okay cuz the righteous survive

Pot. Black.

Though neutral has it's fair share of retards, see the idiots who [spoilers] wanted to let you all die in the schwartz with their nukes. Fucking assholes [/spoiler]
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>>158297531
SMTI-II on Virtual Console.
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>>158292260
late response, but have some trust to make you feel better
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>>158298041
Greedy Jew.
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>>158297238
It's okay when YHVH does it.
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>>158297531
SNES does not have Visionary Items.
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So where can I get the Corpses and Patriot demons in 4A
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>>158297238
Those that die will reincarnate and be beautiful and str through str parents breeding them better bodies.

At least that's Lucys logic.
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>>158298292
fusion accident
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>>158298276
They've been translated for far longer than the iOS version existed you fucking retard.
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>>158298002
SMTI-II on Augmented Reality.
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>>158298438
>>158298145
>>158298002
>fujoposting
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>>158298580
The ones for I got translated a few months before they revealed the translation for IOS SMTI.

Also I do not believe all the ones for two got a translation. A bunch did.
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>lets give him an ability that turns the whole party into bats and gives them unheard of weaknesses!

A) who thought this to be a good idea
B) how do I beat him
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Does he actually care about the main character as family or not? I honestly can't tell.
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>>158298803
Lawfags will say he doesn't, chaosfags will say he does.
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>>158298732
SMT2 has no vision items you fucking imbecile
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>>158298709
Satan you are literally Walt x Jon yaoi fusion.
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>>158298803
Yes but he is an ass about it.

>>158298886
Yes it does actually. You can find some online. Like the one where Lucifer wants to be inside Aleph and apologizes or a voice talking to Carbonite Zayin about God and his role.

There is even one that shows how Madam and Cerberus met after Heros death.
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>>158298742
Just cast tera lmao
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>>158299204
>lmao
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>>158298868
I personally think it's a mix, he might care about him a bit but it's second to his plan in revenge against YHVH. He seems to care about him and shows it in some paths but he's too blinded in his plan to realize he might need to take a step back and relax.

That being said, he's a huge asshole and yaoi bait.
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>>158298803
He does.
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>>158299204
Doesn't tera not affect him when he's flying above ground?

Also why the fuck is this so expensive?
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>16 hours into IV:A
>Just finished Titan fight
>uh-oh battery's dying
>new puppy chewed up the fucking cord
>gotta at least save
>red light blinking
>shit shit shit
>SHUT THE FUCK UP DARU
>ds died
oh well at least ds chargers aren't that expensive anymore
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>>158298742
Use some earth skills when he is guarding and phys when not, and keep healing your party.

Also is Bat the "casual filter" of DDS? or maybe Cerberus?
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>>158299978
Because it has low stock.

It was reprinted a while ago with some Etrian Odyssey games I believe? I bought mine a few years ago actually because I wanted a physical copy and wanted to get my girlfriend at the time to try it one day. But that didn't happen since we broke up, oh well. Kinda glad I didn't give it to her, she still has my EO4 copy. I don't think I even want it back at this point.

Now it's just in my collection along with my like dozen of other 3DS games. Will replay it sometime, still have to beat DDS2.

>didn't play it for years
>suddenly 10 hours in after this weekend
Fucking, what is my life.

Also keep in mind I went to a TCG event for like 4ish hours on saturday too.
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Here's the question. Krishna knows that the angels and fallen angels are being played by yhvh. So why didn't he tell them this? We already see that its possible for them to defect. Its not like they deterministically are unable to. Beelzebub joins the powers later, and then the ghosts of merkabah and lucifer of thier own power decide to unite to fight back. So the entire struggle could have been ended faster if they actually told the angels and fallen angels that yhvh was playing them both. Sure, they might not all want to side with krishna, but at least some of them would, and the others would probably not defend yhvh.
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>>158300673
The Powers are YHVH Tier arrogant. They feel they know better and instead of talking things out they go "I am your light!" And have humans gobbled up because they only like to talk down to humans.

Even Lucy sounds tired because Dagda and Danu give the same excuses as all Old Gods, yet they will quickly join up with murdering humans and YHVHs Law like we see on Blasted.
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>>158300673
Beelz is a wildcard in SMT4, he doesn't pledge hard loyalty to Lucy like his alternate self does.

Hell, he's inconsistent in universe. In SMT4 he considers his Baal self to be inferior in power but SMT4A he likes his Baal self.

Satan didn't defect, he was performing his job as judge. He did this in SMT2, he is the judge of all.

They really can't defect, they move like machines as other people dictate. Lucy can't escape his role in SMT4 and he realizes that as he dies in SMT4A.
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>>158300673
Merkabah buzzwords would be triggered talking to Filth/Law angels do not give a shit.

>>158301172
Satans a Rebel like Lucy. They mention that in IVA Artbook.
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>>158294306
smt 1/2/if remakes with IV interface it´s my dream come true, it could also fix some of the bullshit 1 had, and kether castle would look great
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>>158300673
Because we need an obviously antagonistic force because atlus can't write
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>>158300323
all atlus ds games are crazy expensive, i will have to save for years to buy the dark spire
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>>158301172
All inconsistencies between 4 and 4A are due to 4 being made by new team but under strict direction from old team.
4A is purely new team being given free reign, hence waifushit. Mind you they wanted to do waifushit in 4 already but old team forbid them.
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>>158302041
They at least give us future mpreg with new god powered humanity babies, as the Japanese version makes clear.

Just like my mythologies!
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>>158300238
Cerberus is too late for it to count.
I'd say the abandoned ship on its own is a high enough difficulty jump to be the filter, or the amusement park thing
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>>158301558
The only way I'd accept 1/2/If remakes is if they also updated dungeon layouts.
Fuck everything in If.
Fuck Ginza, TDL and Cathedral in SMT1.
Fuck Lucy's shithouse in SMT2.
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>>158302301
Black/fujo PLS go.
Go back to making your webcomic.
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Does any game fall under "what I expected". Megaten or not.
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>>158302447
But anon, fujos and Black:drawfag are cute.

This general needs more cute people.
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So I just beat abandons heart in smt2 where the fuck am I suppose to go now? Why doest the game tell me shit?
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Man I hate how Nocturne scales down exp earned by your demons if Demifiend's level is too high.
Some of these shits learn really good skills, but more often than not as their last fucking skill.

I specifically remember Barong being the only natural source of Void Death in the game, and it learns it at either 66 or 67.
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>>158302447
How rude. I am 100% human male.

I'll fuck your inferior human loli, dog, monkey, and fairy turd when they surpass Asherah or Mother Maya who are perfection incarnate.
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>>158302586
Sounds like what a fujo/black would say.

Can't trick me!
I have experience in being a master shitposter you know.

>>158302717
I hope you mean big sis Maya, who is objectively best girl.
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>>158302474
El Shaddai
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>>158282668
Mikado.

Tokyo is a demon overrun shithole infested by losers and Tayama.

Mikado knows peace and and prosperity.
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>>158302474
Memes aside there is alot of law chaos discussion here but it's mainly dick demons or slut demons.
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>>158302773
She is not a demon and thus not in IVA.

Plus Maya pleases Old Ones with Canned Crab. The filthiest degenerate of them all.
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Besides /smtg/
What other interests or generals do you guys go to
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>>158281071
Well, to be fair, giving YHVH any sort of meaningful goal other than "more cartoonishly evil than Team Rocket" is a worthwhile endeavor, you don't necessarily need to make YHVH good like God was in DeSu.

You could easily write a plot where YHVH's created heaven and hell broke the natural order. The cycle of life and reincarnation was stopped to capture good souls in heaven and bad people in hell. This has cosmic implications and thus must be addressed. Does YHVH's constructed paradise for the good and eternal punishment for the wicked hold more appeal than some other god's cycle?
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>>158302937
Y-you take that back.

Don't judge her based on her poor food taste. She's still best big sis.

>>158303113
Regularly, aka at work is SMTG and PTCGO.

Randomly if I feel like it, AOG
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>>158302937
Your fuccboi ain't got shit on pic related.
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>>158281460
>chaosfags think it's okay to kill someone because if they are able to it proves they were right all along
kek

>>158282098
This dude must have the deepest, most interesting navel of all time, because he can't stop gazing at it.
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>>158303285
>This dude must have the deepest, most interesting navel of all time, because he can't stop gazing at it.
Wat
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>>158302613
Anyone? I don't know own where the next passage is
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>>158303178
YHVH, born from the desire for Salvation, cannot have Salvation be reached for it makes him no longer have a purpose.

Mitra-Buddha is the guy who actually embodies Salvation itself.
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>>158303246
>draw a girl
>remove breasts
>call it a guy
Japanese can't keep getting away with this!

Seriously, 3 episodes in and I didn't think that was a dude until I looked up bios. Fuck sakes man.
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>>158303416
You're supposed to get out from Abaddon and go to the building on the map where you initially got swallowed by him
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>>158303113
I like /eog/ RIP.
/mbg/ occasionally, /@/
I'd browse nepgen and FE gen if they weren't irremediable shitholes.
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>>158303431
>draw a girl
>remove breasts
>call it a guy
But that's wrong. Unlike your typical shota garbage he actually has a very typical male anatomy and chest. I mean his male chest is a dead giveaway.
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I'm playing nocturne right now but noah in the tower of kagatsutchi is fucking me up,what demons do you rec? Also can I recruit demons in the tower?
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>>158303603
And the mangaka has drawn gay shit before.

Plus all his brothers are prettier.
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>>158303626
Get pierce.
Otherwise, just buff and debuff and use the opposite element of what he's using(he always goes through the same cycle so it's easy to tell), even if you can't cover all grounds, Domination barely gives him any HP back.
And you can, but there's a lot of Dark demons and high leveled demons (highest being Mot at 91), so that really limits what you can get.
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>>158303746
>And the mangaka has drawn gay shit before.
Hirano never drew yaoishit actually.
He only drew straight hentai doujins.
Heck, the prototypes for Hellsing were ALL hentai doujins.
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>>158303939
He did a oneshot I recall of a bunch of vulgar homos. One of them even gets turned on by the idea of a guy he knows getting gangraped.
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>>158302586
Cute is lame. I'd rather have sluts.
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>Take-Mikazuchi says the Kunitsu-kami are allied with the Divine Powers
>Sukuna-Hikona tries to kill you to prevent freeing Krishna

Okay.
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>>158303113
I go on /a/ for the occasional JoJo reaction pics, or to have people post their musical taste. /x/ every now and then, when I hunger for that kinda shit. /an/ because I genuinely love animals, and it feels good reading up on them. /v/ for the occasional decent thread. /wg/ every now and then for when I need more art. Not much else I go on on here.
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>>158304332
Did you not listen to his speech before the fight?
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>>158304294
We all know Hallelujah is taking it in the ass from Nanashi and Asahi.
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>>158303890
I have pierce already but that doesn't work against him, I need a team of magic demons but I have no idea what to fuse
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>>158302780
>expected a great game with great story and great visuals
>got a game with meh gameplay, an incomplete story with plotholes and a cliffhanger ending
>with excellent visuals and great music though
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>>158303501
Wow thanks I don't know why I didt try that and instead went all over the place
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>>158304548
Sukuna's?
Do you know how many hours ago that was? I don't remember.

None the less, how is keeping Krishna imprisoned aiding the Divine Powers? Or was he breaking off from the other Kunitsu-kami?:
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>>158305187
There are people who support the divine powers and those that don't from all sides.

The Divine Powers are fragments from Law, Chaos, and the Japanese pantheon.
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>>158305090
>incomplete story with plotholes
That's becuase the Book of Enoch we have is incomplete.
Jews are literally holding the complete original hostage.
Google "Aramaic Enoch Scroll".

The game outside of the presentation (jeans, celphones etc) is actually very faithful storywise.
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>>158304993
>>I have pierce already but that doesn't work against him
Are you using Freikugel?
Second phase repels all physical attacks, but Freikugel is almighty.

>I have no idea what to fuse
Clotho learns 3-Dynes alongside their boosts, and I think Makakaja too.
Yatagarasu I think learns Wind Cutter and Wind Boost, pass it on to something else that learns at least one other elemental spell and no elemental weakness.
A Surt with Void Ice (which you can get from one of Rag's Mitamas) would be good too, but he's kind of high level and being a Tyrant it's tricky to fuse him to begin with, but he can get Ragnarok and Fire Boost.

Use sacrifice fusions if you don't want to grind them up, but save before each fusion.
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>>158305303
Then, it's just lazy for Take-Mikazuchi to say that Amatsu and Kunitsu are categorically allied or not.
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>tfw definitive version of Corpse Party just leaked on 3DSISO

Sorry for offtopic but goddamn I hope some of you fags pick up that game. 3DS version has content from both PC and PSP versions + more + new shit. Literally definitive version of the game.
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>>158305187
He literally tells you he won't fall for the Allfathers lies like the rest. Why didn't you question why there's no Ippon Datara guarding the last seal while you kill the Archangel and his boss who he had a spat with when you entered.
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>>158305332
Yes, sure, but they could at least give it more closure. And that really doesn't have anything to do with the dry gameplay.
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>>158305426
The Kunitsu as a whole did join.

Amatsu Aramisaki is murdering people in Ginza for the Amatsu.
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Guys. I just started SMT Devil Survivor 2. I want to do the "optimal" route first, the one where the most characters live, or all characters if possible. Is there a bare bones guide that shows you watch choices you have to make during each day without really being a step by step, spoiler stew?
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>>158303113
/smtg/ is my one true general.

For boards I like /v/, /ck/, /trv/, and /x/.
But I'm also a World of STR lurker who goes to creative and "sharing" boards to steal shit without contributing.
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>>158305614
Ehh I wouldn't say the gameplay is dry. It's just average, at least the slasher parts.
The platforming and such parts were actually pretty cool.
And the level and art design are simply 10/10, same with music.
It's a perfect example of game that is art.
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>>158305717
There is no optimal route.
You're supposed to clear all of them anyway, the title screen will progressively update as you finish them.

Also play the 3DS version if you aren't, the DS one is simply not worth playing in comparison to 3DS one and it's missing a fuckton of content.
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Does Devil Survivor Overclocked not have an e-manual?
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>>158306047
Well, thanks. That was less than helpful though. I did specify that by optimal I meant the route where the most characters survive. I also said that was going to my first route, implying I planned on playing through them all. As for buying the 3ds version? Why would I spend almost $40 for a little extra content as opposed to playing the DS version I got for free?
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>>158306379
>little extra content
You're a moron. They added almost a full new game worth of content. It's not like the extra day in DeSu OC. There's a huge expansion completely new campaign added in Break Record. Bigger than say The Answer for P3.
As for ideal route, it depends on individual dialogue choices, not just on people you picked so it's basically impossible for anyone to tell you from memory, but generally you want to go for Daichi ending first.
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>>158305916
>The platforming and such parts were actually pretty cool.
>And the level and art design are simply 10/10, same with music.
I fully agree on this. Loved those parts and the presentation. Still I found it quite far from being called "artsy game" or whatever they call these games nowadays.
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>>158305437
crops party is for fags
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>>158307156
Neck yourself
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>>158306379
>paying for 3DS games
lol

Also do story missions first. Time limits matter in DeSu2 unlike DeSu1.

And also don't be a sperg: Dialog options impact your friendship points so don't pick the autismal ones.
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>>158307324
Autism playthrough is worth doing at least once.
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>>158307324
>>paying for 3DS games
>lol

>someone has a different opinion then me.
>I better laugh at them

I'm sick of this.
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>>158306301
Yes. I bought it digitally, and got to read the manual before starting the game.
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>>158307875
yeah this >he doesn't pirate meme is retarded
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is devil survivor worth playing? i know nothing about it but i could get it for five bucks.
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>>158304856
Asahi pegging him for getting too close to Nanashi?
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>>158308619
It's pretty good, but it's a pain replaying over and over if you want to get all the endings.
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>>158308619
DeSu is arguably one of the most fun spinoffs of SMT.

If you're into turn based SRPGs then it's good for you.
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>>158308619
Yes. Get it.

>>158308171
>>158307875
mad shitters who updated their 3DSs too much confirmed
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>>158308874
I never mentioned anything about the 3ds. I'm just tired of people who use "lol, top kek, lel, etc..." in favor of an actually coherent thought
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>>158309471
lol
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>>158309471
>not reading your aristotle and understaind lol top kek is far more effective and convincing than an autistic obsession with logic
lol
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>>158309471
top kek
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>>158309820
>being so pleb that you don't know that Schopenhauer was the one who came to this conclusion

lel
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>>158309471
lel top kek
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>>158309471
lol

top kek

lel
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err... you can revive after dying against bosses?

SMTIV:A casualization was a mistake.

Also, Kaneko did any official art for this game? I wish I could see Nanashi with the old character design style.
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>>158310883
Kaneko is passed away after he fused with Doi
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Just got to the Cosmic Egg in Apoc, is this finally where the game gets interesting?
So far it's been a huge drag, everything was ridiculously predictable, and the constant friendship bullshit of your harem made it seem more like a Tales of game than SMT.
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>>158310883
Just make him paler then add black lipstick, eyeliner, and mascara.
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>>158279503
Apocalypse actually mostly drops the Nippon banzai stuff, surprisingly.
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>>158311054
>the constant friendship bullshit of your harem made it seem more like a Tales of game than SMT.
Better get used to it, that's what all Megaten is going to be from now on.
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>>158312032
great
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>>158311054
>he doesn't believe courage is the magic that makes dreams into reality
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>>158296443
Late reply but thank you so much.
I'm doing my final media theory assignment for university on SMT 1 and 2.
I need to do the pitch in a few hours and I wanted to show and explain the intro.
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>>158312818
What if he was a real demon, but only in America and that's why we never get to fuse him?
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>>158308874
>>>/v/
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>>158312938
>Jack In the Box
>Resist Fire/Ice
>Double Jack, 2x Medium Phys attack
>Midnight Munchies, Heavy Dark Attack
>Tacokaja: +1 to Physical attacks, adds one taco to inventory
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How do I even fuse deities?
Looked up Arahabaki because the design is nice but he won't speak.
>He can later be recruited in Tokyo Destinyland after beating the devil summoner there in the Neutral route.
But I got a King.
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What causes a Jack Frost to become a Black Frost versus a King Frost?

Is it... The hee-furt they put in?
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hoy
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>>158316367
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I just beat colonial beck in DDS is the last dungeon worth playing after this? Cause i don't see how the final boss could be harder than that artificial difficulty wise.
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>>158316741
Final boss is easy if you have Ma- spells
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>>158316367
A Black Frost is a Jack that embraces his demonic nature.

A King Frost is just a ruler; probably an strong, elder and wise Frost.
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>>158316836
Is the dungeon short?
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>>157840704
>>157841532
>>157841723
>>157842023

I still believe that you will deliver anon, because you are working on it, aren't you?
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>>158316741
Do you want an actual answer, or just a nod to validate your whiny ass?

But yes, do it.
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>>158317298
Hahaha no, the Karma Tower or whatever the fuck it's name was is not a short dungeon, especially without a guide.
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There are demonicas in SMTIV:Apocalypse?

I don't like Nanashi's hair, I'm even using Josuke PT8's outfit just to look a little better.
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>>158317284
King Frost is unaware of his limitless ice power. Also sometimes serve under Lucifer or have a Tsundere Queen Frost.
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>>158310883
You could revive in 4 too.
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>>158310883
Play on Apocalypse if you want permadeath you loser!
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>>158310883
>you can revive after dying against bosses?
Who cares? The player would've just reset the game anyway.
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>>158310883
SMT isn't really meant to be a hardcore series though
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Is DeSu 2 vanilla worth playing? I finished up Overclocked and never got around to it, but don't really feel like buying Record Breaker unless it's on sale.

I've heard the game balance is even more broken in a kinda bad way (like to the point magic's just as strong as in 1, but Multistrike even on regular demons is even stronger), and the story's way more anime.
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>>158322119
No, save up for BR. The expansion and redone gameplay are worth it.
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>>158322119
The first character you befriend is a guy who constantly brags about how lazy he is. Then you meet an energetic half nekkid woman with big tits, a soldier girl with big tits, a tsundere girl with big tits, and an autistic laconic hacker with big tits.

It's... anime and not as good as the Biblical smackdown that was DeSu1 but the gameplay is strong as it was in the last game.
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>>158322119
Multi-strike's fucked because unlike Dances where it's 2 to 4 hits, it's 2 to 7, and IIRC Ag does influence the number of hits
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>>158322362
Autistic laconic hacker is best girl and her VA in Record Breaker is fucking spot on. Sounds exactly how I imagined she would, right down to how she constantly sounds bored.
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the fuck is hp-dependent damage in DeSu2
damage=health spent?
>>158322992
I was surprised by the garden of eden(?) event in Record Breaker, didn't expect to see all that lewd and man fumi has huge knockers for a girl that ain't fat, they must be full of silicone processors or something
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>>158323203
It's not as unusual as you think for girls that aren't fat to have large breasts.
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Woah, hey guys.
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>>158323203
All that fat gas to go somewhere.
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>>158323686
Pity she has so little in the way of r34.
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may you be blessed with good fortune and luck S&M TG
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>>158278879
The white were a bunch of pussies.
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>>158324015
What are you doing
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>>158324094
And they weren't even right.
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>>158324142
Making a demi-fiend caster by the looks of it.
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>>158278879
I've had this set as my phone background for months now, should I change?
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>>158323993
That reminds me, I never did figure out who exactly she's cosplaying here.

(no, despite filename, it's not anyone from Code Geass)
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>>158323993
If it makes you feel better there used to be a few more on Pixiv way back but you know Nips.
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>>158324142
I was feeling lucky
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>>158325096
> that filename
Nice.

>>158325136
> tfw never learned how to navigate pixiv and can't read japanese
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>>158325425
Well my implication anon is that they were removed from Pixiv ages ago. Nips do that a lot.
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>>158326106
That's equally as unfortunate. Who wouldn't wanna share 34 of best girl?
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>>158325425
Just copy/paste from google translate or wikis for japanese spellings of names.

You'd be surprised how easy it gets.
>>
I've played through all of SMTIV and IVA without knowing that you could rotate the camera on the overworld map.
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>>158326106
>>158326249
42 R18s of 203 total under pixiv/菅野史. Never count out non-kanji spellings - learned this the hard way trying to source Midori and Hitomi images.
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>>158326249
Nips best girl are the guys cept Ronaldo and Io
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>>158303113
This is the only general that I ever come in to.
I sometimes browse /x/ or /g/ and sometimes /a/.
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>>158326490
>he's lying
>....
>FUCK
Haha, I totally knew that.
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>>158326537
>non-katakana spellings

Keep getting those mixed up. At any rate, you know the stakes, and the booru has no compunctions about rehosting lewd as long as it's sourced and the artist doesn't have a PLEASE NO REPOST sign posted anywhere. Get out there and grab those Mystic Relics!
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>>158303113
I used to go on /fgog/ before emus were kill.

Other than that, I go on /ck/, /v/, and /vr/. Sometimes /x/ if I'm really bored.
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>>158326812
>That nerds shit taste.
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>>158326537
I'd attach an image of a guy giving a thumbsup, but I don't have any on my phone so I'm just letting you know that I appreciate you.
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>>158327067
I forget what keikaku means.
Solid game though, gotta get my monster catchan elsewhere sometimes. I tried to get into Yokai Watch too but found it pretty dull.
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>>158327480
Plan. As mentioned by a homosexual with a god complex who killed his boyfriend to be God of the New World.
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>>158303113
I go to /mhg/; /ssbg/ and /smtg/ mainly. /smtg/ is my home general, mh and ssbg when I'm feeling like multiplayer. /smtg/ is the only one I go into even if I'm not playing smt games.
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>>158326490
I figured out I could do this halfway through IV but decided against using it because I already had enough trouble navigating that piece of shit.
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>>158303113
/tg/ for the most part.

I used to frequent /smtg/ a little after /vg/ was created and when that guy would post the trumpet demon every day for like a year.

I came back for apocalypse stuff.
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>>158329276
I member him. Fun times. That Goetia always had a good sprite design.
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>>158329276
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>>158329670
Are you that guy or a copycat?
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Does Inanna say "Fill me with your blood" or am I mishearing things?
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>>158329710
I'm a memester
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>>158329828
Answer the damn question
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>>158329792
That's right.

She clearly means your bloodline.
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>>158329874
2cute
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>>158330068
YES OR NO FAGGOT, ARE YOU THE SAME GUY?
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>>158330134
I am but a simple collector of past memes
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>>158330391
So you aren't then, pity
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>>158317431
not him, but want me to take a crack at this?
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>>158330498
I can be your angle, or your deman
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>>158316367
You get a 10 for hee-furt
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>>158324554
Yes.
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>>158330613
If you are him, repost it every day from now on.

If you aren't, do it anyway to uphold the tradition.
>>
What ever happened to the if... translation?
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>>158330970
Almost ready for a 2011 release!
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>>158330650
To what?
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>>158331215
to THIS
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>>158331013
At this rate I'll know enough Japanese to just play it untranslated before it's out.
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>>158331438
Sorry, I don't put useless sluts on my phone.
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>>158331735
>useless
delet
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I wish they made more "Hallel" versions of fallen demons.
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>>158331735
What about useful sluts and hardcore hackers?

>>158331438
Fucking 10/10 my man, made me kek.
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>>158332110
Nemissa is pure.
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>These fucking moves in Nocturne that automatically bring you to 1HP and seemingly never miss

Between those and fucking Dragon/Beast Eye I swear to God Nocturne has the most irritating shit to kill you in fights.
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What are some demons that remind you of yourself? For me it’s Mephisto – intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
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>>158333324
I'd have thought that'd be "trilby-clad and pushy about imploring beautiful people to stay at your side."
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>>158317431
Welp, it was a REALLY long day at work, but I finally made it, just for you.

And I made two versions.
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>>158333324
Literally me.
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>>158317431
>>158333438
And now a version with less graffiti.

Sorry for the delay, I was very tired that day and then I forgot about it.
That Pixie pic you used really touches me for some reason.
>>
Would Dante have been a better addition in a Megaten game that wasn't Nocturne?
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>>158333324
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>>158334237
He would have been best in Raidou if he brought DMC combat with him.
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Well, now we know what Nozomi calls her phone.
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>>158334237
Dante fit in really well with the Fiends plot because he was a demon hunter getting contracted to hunt demons. He could fit into basically any SMT game, to be honest, but he wouldn't have much reason to interact directly with the protagonist as he did with Demi-fiend, being hired to hunt him and all.
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>>158333324
Stay, thou art so beautiful.
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>>158333428
Excuse my autism, but shouldn't it be Faust, not Mephisto, doing the second part?
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>>158335240
If you're here to split hairs, Nanashi is technically subbing in for Faust, but mostly I'm going for the badly-bearded Whiteman jab.
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>>158333324
literally me
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Just got SMT IV:A.
Is the Dex/Phys Build still the best one?
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>>158335468
why did this one make me laugh so hard
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>>158335789
STR is best
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>>158335895
They changed the mechanics? Because STR just boosted your weapon attack in IV
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>>158335993
Yep, they fixed STR. Now STR boosts physical skills and DEX boosts gun skills.
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>>158335993
Yes

STR boosts physical skills
Dex just boosts guns.
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>>158335993
DEX boosts gun attacks and STR boosts phys attacks in this one.
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>You're trapped! Rapidly press the X Button.
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>>158336269
"You're awesome, Nanashi!"
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>>158336340
Think she likes getting her belly rubbed?
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>>158336340
>unskippable
>>
Why is YHVH's Universe so bad. Whose idea was it to make such a bad dungeon.
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>>158336269
mod to delete these?
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>>158336451
I'll lick her belly
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>>158336532
TEST
OF
PATIENCE
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>>158336532
>Atlus
>bad dungeon

Gee I wonder
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>>158336721
Name games with better dungeons
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>>158336451
I think she prefers to be scratched behind her ears.
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>>158336887
Skyrim
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>>158336887
Etrian Odyssey 1, Etrian Odyssey 2, Etrian Odyssey 3.
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>>158336887
>>158336887
your mom
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>>158336887


>>158337043
kek
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>>158336887
Jackie chan
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>>158337065
Don't forget Etrian Odyssey 5
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>>158337065
>Atlus

>>158337043
kek
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>>158336887
Shaq-Fu
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>>158336887
Zelda
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>>158336887
Persona 3 and Persona 4
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>>158337805
Nigga you funny
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>>158336269
These would be annoying bullshit if enemies could attack you while you're in them, but as it stands they've basically got no point to existing.
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>>158336887
Than SMTIVA? Nocturne.

Than Atlus? I don't know, I don't play dungeon crawlers, I just like games with lots of monsters to fight with.
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Man, playing a magic build in DDS2 after playing a physical build in DDS1 just feels like I'm fucking cheating.

>magic is all dirt cheap
>you have a passive skill you get early that gives you mana for devouring enemies
>you pump magic so each devour gives you 20+ mana

Holy shit is this broke as fuck.
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Hopes and fears for SMTV?
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>>158338740
Hopes : its on a home console
Fears : its on nintendo
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>>158338740
I hope it is made
I fear it may not be made
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>>158338740
DLC
Repeat of IVA's crummy story.
Not existing.
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>>158338740
>hopes
3D models
high budjet
home console
makes Mainline as populor or more then persona

>fears
not being made
shoenen like IVA (I still loved IVA but as a mainline I am a bit miffed)
on a handheld again
>>
>Persona Q
>Persona 2 EP
>Persona 1

Which one should I play first? After beating these games I am done with all translted SMT games. Minus jack bros and Arena since their not really SMT
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>>158339178
>Minus jack bros and Arena since their not really SMT

neither are persona
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>>158338563
Too bad Ronald sucks.
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>>158339178
Persona 1. Then do persona INNOCENT then PUNISHMENT
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How many years have passed between smt 4 and smt 4a? Hope and K look just about the same but the others make it seem like it's been a few decades. I know time is slowed in tokyo but something just seems off.
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>let horse peacock hurt asahi
>use isabeau as a fucking human shield
why does nobody ingame have an issue with this.
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>>158339350
Apocalype takes place during SMT4's neutral route

so no gap in between

4 takes place in about 6 months going by navarres age in Mikado
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>>158339350
6 months in Tokyo, 6 years for Mikado.
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>>158339350
From the start of SMT4 to SMT4A?

Tokyo: 3-6 months
Mikado: 5 years?
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>Hallelujah wonders who Dagda is before they reveal his identity a second later
>Diverts his eyes as he realizes his mistake.

He thought he was like him. Didn't notice that on my first playthrough.

>>158336532
YHVH obviously you dumbass. It's in the name.
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>>158339457
They think you have a plan.

These dumb little shits.

>People say you can't really be mean to Asahi
>Except all the times in battle when you do.
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Pale Rider and his Allahu Akbars in Nocturne are blowing me right the fuck out. Any tips?
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>>158339478
>>158339495
>>158339517
I guess that sounds about right. I mean, they did change the blacksmith and the apothecary in smt4a atleast.
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>>158338740
Fix law to make it not the most full retard of these alignments.
And revert chaos back to how it was pre 4.
And stop with all the neutral circlejerking. It's worse now compared to pre SJ.
In fact, just clean slate it. Make original reps that aren't just Abrahamic forces, old Gods or other deities are fine.
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Is Stephen present in all the games?Also Is he aware of the alternate timeline stuff or are there alternate versions of him?
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>>158339928
Drain their MP

Or sic Deadly Fury on them
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>>158339947
K's implied to be real old too. Like 100+ but looking in his fifties at best. It's not suggested to be normal aging in Mikado either since they had grown men mentioning he's been running the Tavern since their dads were kids amd before that.
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plz sum1 hellp w god slayer training: affininities
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>>158340296
What the fuck is K's deal?
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>>158340278
You can have Lucifer leading Chaos even then. Like Devil Children where the three Norns, Isis, Three Hindu faction Kings, Hel/King Frost, Brahman, and some normal Judeo-Christian demons like Mammon as his subordinates.
>>
I just ordered a copy of Strange Journey off amazon,
what am i in for?
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>>158340296
>>158340513
Its Krishna idiots
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>>158339304
Already finished Innocent sin though.
>>
Just realized I never bothered to fuse resistances onto my demons to cover their weaknesses. They don't have pleromas either. Should I re-fuse them or keep climbing the cosmic egg?
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>>158340513
I don't know man. At the end of the Neutral route, he even says he remembers Tokyo. If that's the case, then he would be around 1500 years old!
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>>158340513
It's weird he doesn't show up in the Massacre DLC with Demonic Mikado.

Also
>Wears Red like Satan's heads
>Has the same VA as Satan
>Is blonde like a real Louis should be
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>>158340714
ree you played persona 2 before 1
>>
WAIT NO YOU'RE NOT THE SAME ALIGNMENT AS ME STUPID GHOST FUCK YOU
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Why does people hates Law? You realized you're literally living on one right?
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>>158339928
Be sure to not have anyone weak to dark or ice, they like to use those.
I don't think they use dekunda, so debuff them to shit, but buff yourself first, since they like to debilitate.
Use party-wide attacks (phys is good) to wipe out the Loas and deal damage to rider at the same time. Take them out fast, since Last Resort will heal pale rider. Also don't bother with stone/mute, they don't work on these adds
If all else fails, come back later. Perhaps you are too low level.
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>>158340834
this is the order I played Persona

P4G then P3FES then Innocent sin.
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>>158340713
Krishna was sealed, faggot.
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>>158341075
Innocent has returning characters from 1 as main characters. Thats why im triggered.
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>>158340286
He isn't in SJ or Nocturne. Not sure about if...
And I'm pretty sure it's the same Stephen. I think this is said in an interview somewhere but I'm not for sure.
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>>158297531
>snes
>superior
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>>158341036
>not living in lawless territory

I'm posting from the ocean.
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>>158340708
A peculiar voyage.
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>>158340964
The phantoms look like law/chaos hero in the PS1 version? That's neat.
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>>158340708
a bizarre adventure
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>>158331735
but she's the best girl
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>>158341036
It's not as extreme as in SMT.
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>>158341186
Wow fuck thats lame. I thought it was like P3 and P4 oh well. ill play 1 before starting P2Ep. Do they appear their as well?
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>>158341351
The Law/Chaos phantoms turn into their respective hero if you're the same alignment. I guess I was too close to chaos from grinding on law demons in Kongokai before I went and killed the law phantom.
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>>158341450
Yep. I believe Nanjo is a pc IIRC
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>>158341450
P1 characters appear in both P2 games. Just play P1, P2:IS, then P2:EP.
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>>158340964
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>>158289086
>>158289821
Any chance of getting more Zelenin in the queue? The judge outfit is 2lewd, and we all want angel dick.
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>>158337043
I agree!
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How are social links in P5? I heard them saying its gonna be a bit different then P3/P4 how so?
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>>158342081
Same shit as P3/P4 but you get bonuses now like you don't waste time if the rank doesn't increase if someone is a certain rank
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>>158342081
I think they are not locked by days anymore so you can proceed with them however you like
>>
For a physical nanashi, nihil claw or beserker god?
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>>158341230
>>158340286
If I'm not mistaken, Stephen is mentioned in if... as the one who uploaded the Devil Summoning Program like in I.

And yes, Stephen is a multiverse traveller.

http://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2016/08/apocalypse-artbook.html (Lots of Apocalypse spoilers)
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>>158341036
SMT Law is usually based on following God and also killing lots of people so that the secret club can live on. I'm sure you could make arguments as to why real world Law is similar but it's not as extreme.
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>>158343032
>implying that doesn't exist in real life

Heh.
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>>158342625
Either. Your call.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>158343152
so I take it that means a one hit claw does less damage?

Why the fuck SMT can't express move power as a number in game when fucking pokemon does it I still don't know
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>>158343404
The guy who added those used to hang out here.
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>>158343404
I forgot that it used to be Persona and Arena general. What was the point of that?
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>>158343541
>used to
Feels bad.
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If observation doesn't work in Dagda's new universe, rendering the current concept of "Gods" defunct, how would YHVH return?
>>
Why does Vishnu-Flynn look like he'd fit in a Star Wars movie.
>>
>>158344278
General Grevious
>>
hello goys I'm starting SMTIV for the first time, is Dex "build" fun?
>>
>>158344092
Nanashi as the new god getting bored and fucking with the new humans for shits and chuckles.
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>>158335796

it's literally pol
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>>158343649
Autism. And for a while they even incorporated DAN.

I'm glad they went back to just Persona General.
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>>158344759
>fun
Nice buzzword
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>>158345468
>buzzword
Nice buzzword
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>>158343649
Because the general started with Arena
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>>158344759
Not so much in the first section, since you can't do jackshit with it, but then you will be able to multi-hit and crit things to death with incredibly satisfying sound effects and visuals.
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>>158345530
>buzzword
nice funword
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>>158344092
I can't believe people misunderstand the new universe this badly. There is still observation in this universe, observation is something that cannot be removed from humans because the Great Will gave it to humans. However, humans no longer have any physical limitations and can directly interact with the forces that govern the world. The forms that gods appear in within the series are due to humanity's limited understanding of the world. Humans, trapped in cages of flesh, lost the ability to understand things like they did before YHVH came along. Because of this, humans developed language, an imperfect way to convey certain concepts. That imperfect understanding led to the old gods losing power and becoming trapped in different physical forms, because human beings did not fully understand the true nature of the old gods. YHVH was not affected by this because he remained outside the universe, not interacting with humans. Because humans had never observed YHVH, YHVH was not affected by human's limited observation like the other gods. Now that humanity can fully understand and manipulate the forces of the universe, any god that would emerge would basically just be a force of nature, similar to how Dagda exists. Even if YHVH did somehow return (which is unlikly), he would basically be useless.
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>>158345427
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>>158345427
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>>158345427
she wants to play poker with me or what?
>>
>>158345468
>>158345530
>>158345554
is STR good like it is in Nocturne?
>>
>>158346118
pretty good outfit
>>
I want to make my Satan a phys attacker with Akasha arts and the 2 Pleromas but I also want to make an Almighty focused Satan because of Megiddo Ark. What should I do?
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>>158346205
In IV it is the shittiest stat of the game.
In IVA it's really good, but it takes a bit to become useful.
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>>158346480
page 5 zoomed out so you can see it
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>>158346619
>no epic meme tabs
>opera
>skype
>discord
Shoot yourself
>>
I just got to 7/8 moon in IVA after Lucifer and Merkabah. would assuming i have about 10 hours left be reasonable?
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>>158346619
The lack of "gay sex with hats on" and "how to take a screenshot?" in your tabs is unsettling.

>>158346874
>also League
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>>158346874
>no epic meme tabs
well, milo is there
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>>158346619
Sasuga leaguefag
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>>158345702
This guy gets it.

Humans are the Gods. YHVH is now a shit forever.
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>>158346619
What the fuck am i looking at
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>>158347191
shin megami tensei network podcast just look it up my dude
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>>158347191
cancer
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> Power dies while playing Nocturne because of building work.
> Decide to start a new game in SJ to kill time.
> Forget all about Nocturne and just play SJ instead.

Strange Journey is best SMT.
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>>158347657
It really is. Where are you at in the game?
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>>158341880
I do want to draw more Zelenin, but I might not have time for it maybe if I get two done per day I might make it. the original idea was to draw Zelenin and Mastema but I just felt like drawing her wearing her demonica suit instead
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>>158347657
Still sector A, but it's not my first playthrough.
Will probably go Law this time. Did Neutral first but I want to fight Mem Aleph again as well as try out the Gore fight.
Plus who can say no to that trustworthy individual, Mastema?
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>>158348014
Gore isn't that bad if you've fought Mem Aleph.

The issue with Gore is if you're doing a fresh run with no NG+ content then he will fucking ream you hard. His gimmick honestly took me by surprise the first time I fought him, he didn't feel that hard but he was LONG.
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>>158348014
Meant for >>158347843 if that wasn't obvious.
>>
>Messiah's in the Diamond realm
>things going pretty well
>managed to defeat stephen's first fight
>but then he goes ahead and completely obliterates both parties

I was not ready.
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>>158348185
I'm doing just that. As much as I like SJ, I hate how it handles NG+.
Never been a fan of NG+ where I'm still a facefucking monster and have all my gear. I just start a fresh new one instead.
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>>158348497
I like having the option, and it's satisfying to steamroll through all the early bosses, but keeping your levels isn't conducive to challenge.
>>
Just beat SJ on neutral should I go LAW or CHAOS? Which has the most NG+ content?
>>
Hoy
>>
>>158348841
Chaos for Mara
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>>158348841
Neither have NG+ content that's exclusive, NG+ only gets you two additional bosses that you unlock no matter what alignment you are I believe.

Neither is as ridiculous as Mem, though Demiurge is... I dunno interesting? He felt underwhelming.
>>
boyo
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>>158348841
Actually, I just remembered a big bonus for Law.

Going Law gets you demiurge which is nice because he's a BITCH to fuse in SMT4.
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>>158349189
[angry potato and alcohol noises]
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>>158347657
>Strange Journey is best SMT.

Not with that music and demon co-op.
>>
>>158349402
> He doesn't like the SJ soundtrack.
FUCK YOU son of man.

Demon Co-op is so-so though.
>>
>>158349402
Oh... Its you again.
>>
>>158349751
>Implying I don't agree with him
Good boss music though
>>
wierd question but does the snow queen quest have different music then the reguler main story in Persona 1? I want to use the music patch but I want to first expernce the music of Persona 1 PSP first.
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YOUR ASS IS MINE!
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>>158340708
a weird trip
>>
>>158353521
more like a queer voyage
>>
>>158340708

An unusual crossing.
>>
>>158349751
SJ's soundtrack is the worst in Megaten, man.
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>>158340708
>not emulating it
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>>158353936
>emulating games
>not playing them on the original hardware for the most authentic experience
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>tfw already wasted 4 hours trying to create a perfect Daisoujou in Nocturne

This is the dumbest shit ever
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>>158354287
Nocturne has the absolute worst fusion system
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>>158354287
Yeah but how awesome is he going to be once the stars align

Most I ever spent was 2 hours on my ideal Sati and I can't even remember what skills she had
>>
>>158353936
>emulating it
lol.
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>>158353936
emulating DS games always struck me as unwieldy
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>>158353927
You can't reason with Strange Journalists, anon.
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/smtg/

where are my sons of man from
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>>158355423
United States of America, Ohio.
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I'm in my first playthrough of SMT4 and I just got to Blasted Tokyo. Should I keep my elemental magic attacks or should i be set with just Megido on Flynn?
>>
>>158355772
Megidola makes good backup against mobs and hordes, but antichthon is far more useful late-game. Elemental magic will get you through 90% of bosses effectively.
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>>158348352
So glad I didn't bother grinding for that shit.
>>
>>158355423
uk
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>>158356015
Not much grinding required though

Two playthroughs worth of stuff is enough to beat him on war and you'll most likely already be doing two playthroughs for the other ending

And there's no better feeling in Apocalypse than putting his ass back in his seat
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>>158356050
>living in uk
lol
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>>158355423
USA, Oregon.
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>>158356237
>needing to see an ending other than Bonds
>>
>>158356353
>Bonds

See, this is why I like coming here
you guys are funny
>>
>>158356237
That's the thing. No way am I doing YHVH boredom land a second time.
>>
>>158356256
>lol
lol
>>
>>158356417
He's right though

Massacre ending is literally nothing
Might as well just jump to the credit after the fight
>>
>>158356480
>lol
lol
>>
>>158356516
Bonds ending is literally nothing
Might as well just jump to the credit after Vishnu
>>
>>158356436
>No way am I doing YHVH boredom land a second time

It's like 10 minutes long the second time though
and you don't even need to make it that far. I didn't.

Just far enough to have 5 diamonds to buy the hourglass that gives you an extra turn and enough money to fuse what you might need.

Of course the more you play the more incense, armor boosts, and other shit you find which will help
>>
>>158347657
TMS is better.
>>
>>158356743
>TMS
what's that? never heard of it.
>>
>>158356480
>>158356605
>>158356256
cringe
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>>158356898
>cringe
lel
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>>158355423
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>>158356898
>cringe
Fuck off normie
>>
>>158356874
I presume he's talking about Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE.
>>
>>158355423
Tejas
>>
>>158356743
>>158356992
Literally who?
>>
>>158356992
Wow did you pull that name out of your ass? I doubt what ever youre talking about actually exists.
>>
Where can you get money in Apocalypse? Fusing is getting expensive, and items don't sell for much anymore. Also, how necessary are resistances/pleromas endgame?
>>
>>158357371
ONLY $3.99 GOYIM AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE MACCA YOU CAN EAT
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>>158356743
I actually do like TMS better than SJ.

It doesn't feel nearly as slow, and I like more of the music in it.
>>
>>158357371
Fundraise/+ app. Bind + Fundraise for more funds to raise.
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>>158357371
War is the only difficulty that has different prices
if you're on it switch down to fuse

Bind demons then mug them
make sure to have fundraiser+

>Also, how necessary are resistances/pleromas endgame?

the higher the difficulty the more necessary they are. there's no good reason not to cover your ass.
>>
Question about SMT IV. Do any of the DLC delivery quests (the ones that give you armor) effect your alignment? Or am I safe to go ahead and do those without having to worry about it?
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>>158357754
Just check gamefaqs

Some quests have question and I am pretty sure every question in IV account for your alignment
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>>158330592
Thanks, but as you can see my request was fulfilled (sorry for the late response, I went to bed after bumping my request)

>>158333438
>>158333969
Thank you anon, I really mean it.
You're my bitch ass messiah
>>
Does anyone have a that Devil Survivor 2 guide that showed how to fuse any demon very cheap?
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>>158358827
It's in the OP but here http://pastebin.com/B76YWLS0
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Fuck this gay earth I don't want to be Chaos I'm going to Tokyo Disney Land
>>
Get grindy or die trying
>>
This means game over by the way
>>
Goodnight, SMTG
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>>158362582
No
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>Fear Darkness
>Fear Darkness
>Fear Darkness
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>>158361394
Dude just find diamond in shibuya or somewhere and get soul incense.
>>158361620
>one time there were 16 of them
>no running
>no negotiation
>only deaths
>>
So, now that the Nintendo exclusivity deal is finished, what's next for SMT?
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>>158364189
>Dude just find diamond
muh Hinokagutsuchi
>>
>>158364516
Get ready for the Nintendo Switch™ coming March 2017!
>>
>>158365550
Persona 5 shows Atlus is moving back to PlayStation in a big way.
>>
>>158365721
>We’re excited to be supporting the Nintendo Switch and believe the games we publish are a perfect fit for the portable nature of the console.
t. Fatlus representative
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>>158365952
That's about Etrian Odyssey not the SMT.
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>>158363072
>Growing Hatred
>Satan hit for 1200 damage
>>
Final left such an awful taste in my mouth that I practically stopped following the series and as a result coming here since finishing it. Now the english version is out, I'm curious what you the consensus here is? Not judging anyone for liking/disliking it, just want to know how it was received.
>>
>>158368202
Liked the gameplay, story was meh, and the last dungeon was god awful.
>>
>>158364624
>Not grinding sirens for eternity
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>>158365952
I honestly feel SMT V will be a PS4 exclusive, does anyone else feel it too?
>>
What game in the series has the most fucked up Law ending?
>>
>>158369695
Nope.
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>>158369726
>Flood world and let YVHV take over remaining world
>Nuke everywhere except lawfags, kill God and get bitches while teaming with Satan
>Reasons, specifically World of STR
>Nuke millions of people and keep remaining hospitable place protected and fair until demonic genes kick in
>Mind wipe everyone out of freewill into slaves who do nothing but pray
SJ.
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>>158355772
What kind of question is this? You have eight skill slots.
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>>158366116
But there's no second screen for EO
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>>158371035
>demonic genes
What is this?
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>>158371035
Completely forgot about SJ's Law ending.
>>158372058
I think he's talking about the IVA DLC where the Mikado citizens become demons.
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>>158310883
I'm late as fuck on this but i felt the need to say it

Booting you back to the title screen doesnt make a game difficult, it make it tedious. Once you give the player the ability to save anywhere, there's no real reason to kick to the title screen on a loss, since a smart player would save very, very often.

But saving every time you do anything of even minor importance is fucking boring, so a good game designer will just let you restart because you're a retard if you dont save outside the boss room.

The real thing to complain about is save anywhere vs save points and both sides have merit.
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>>158368202
People hate the story and the characters but liked the game play improvements.
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Thinking about making a Super Brigid, because fuck Atlus for not having her in the plot.
Concentrate
Draconic Reaction
Smile Charge/Maragidyne
Ice Resistance
Fire Pleroma
High Fire Pleroma
Ragnarok
Fire Pierce

Is this good?
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>>158372617
Why do they become demons?
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>>158373106
Don't remember all to well but I think everyone in Mikado got infected by a demon virus that turns them into demons. I think YHVH made it. I'll have to replay it later since I don't remember much.
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>>158373106
Abbot Hugo, acting as YHVH's messenger, activates what he calls the "Demon Gene" in the citizens of Mikado. He says it is slumbering inside everyone. It's not really clear as to whether he means everyone in Mikado or all humans. I'd lean towards all humans because we've seen that with the right methods anyone can be turned into a demon (DDS, P2 mindbreak, or even if you want to just stick with mainline in IV you've got literature/reds). But it could also be a specifically Mikado thing, which would explain why Lilith's literature had such an extreme reaction (assuming that Lilith's literature was just books, and not magic books).
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>>158373386
It was always there.

SMTIV DEMONIC GENE starring Walter.
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>>158373047
>Ice Resistance
No. You'll want Ice Drain.
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>>158373586
Nope IV's artbook and Walts manga reveal angels did it.

Hugo turned it into a virus that turns filth in Tokyo into Demons like them.
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>>158373047
>Atlus not allowed to show real characters in their games
>shows YHVH

religions blown the fuck out
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>>158373735
So literature turning people into demons was the doing of the angels, not Lilith?
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>>158373915
It was both.
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>>158374020
What I mean is, Lilith brought the books, but if not for whatever the Angels did, they wouldn't have turned into demons?
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>>158373678
I mean like resistance in general to Ice, so Drain Ice can count
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>>158374096
Yes
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>>158355423
USA, Indiana.
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>>158355423
US, Boston

tfw I know a smtg friend but she's autistic as fuk and I don't wanna bother anymore
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>>158355423
SC, South Carolina (but not the Messian parts).
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>>158366325
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>>158373047
The last time I saw Draconic/Beastly Reaction on someone's MAG build, it got panned to about the same degree Bloody Glee would've on same.

Which is to say one anon made a mocking greentext of it and was never pressed to elaborate.

Anyone got numbers for DR/BG's effects, to the tune of equivalent Ag/Lu points, equivalent Sukukaja levels, etc.? Been passing them around as I renovate my Compendium on Massacre and need to know if they can be spared and where.
>>
What's the best smt game?
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>>158355423
Portugal here.

>>158377620
Whichever you like the most.
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>>158377571
DR/BR are equivalent to +1/+2 levels of innate Sukaja levels as far as I know.

Generally I don't think either are needed unless you're playing on Apocalypse difficulty where everything dodges a shit ton.

I don't think Bloody Glee in general is good with stuff like smirk but some people like it on Matador. But Bloody Glee seems like not bother material on higher difficulties.
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>>158377639
Which do you like the most?
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>>158377889
Me? SJ.
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>>158378050
Fucking christ, shit taste.
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>>158378131
I don't have many games under my belt so maybe my opinion will change with time. Sorry I triggered you.
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>>158377620
2 is okay if you can ignore the backtracking.
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>>158378131
It's not that bad. I like the setting and the subject matter. It just has weak gameplay and characters.
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>>158380434
Who's this?
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>>158354709
>Strange Journalists
I don't know about you, but that sounds like an awesome name for a MegaTen news site.
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>>158381158
>MegaTen news site.
well played
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>>158377620
You mean megaten or SMT?
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>>158382849
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Wow, I'm actually enjoying the Digital Devil Story book.
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>>158380542
It looks like 4koma's work.
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>>158383017
I know, I know. But it's always confusing when someone doesn't make the differentiation.
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>>158383017
>Jack Frost
>STR incense

Triggered.
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>>158383506
Why? It's got really good ATK.
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>>158383742
Oh I see, so it's a meme that works on different levels. Well done.
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>Do you love me
>Yes
>I don't trust you!
>No
>I hate you!

Come on babe, don't be like that
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>>158384014
What do you mean?

My Jack Frost has:
-Ice Punch
-Ice Shard
-Charm
-Retaliate
w/ Jolly nature.

Works much better than the special set imo. People just underestimate physical JF.
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>>158383172
Is there a translation?
>>
>>158384467
I bet you didn't even min max the ev's so you could outpace Timid Pyro Jacks and still survive a Crunch from Shesha.
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>>158384014
Pic related, a Jack Frost with too many STR Incenses
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>>158384543
Up to book 2.
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>>158355423
Blasted Tokyo


California here
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>>158384467
>ice punch over icicle crash
>not hasthee nature
We need to talk.
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>>158384613
Just try it fagget.

My physical Alice has won over a hundred arm wrestling contests all over this side of Tokyo.
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>>158384939
Let's go.
>>
>play apocalypse on war
>breeze through the game while never having trouble
>play IV
>die in the first dungeon on normal

lol wtf is this bullshit atlus. this is gonna be a long game
>>
>>158385404
I wish hard mode was available right off the bat in IV.

It's pretty thrilling.
>>
Is Sukukaja and Sukunda absolutely useless in IV? I don't feel like it does anything
>>
>>158385404
Naraku is actually more unforgiving than later dungeons.
>>
>>158386057
Kinda.

It's better to have defense skills. Also in IV Tarukaja boosts both magic and attack, so it's pretty useful.
>>
>>158386170
I wouldn't mind Naraku being a longer dungeon and more varied designs
>>
I don't always compare SMT to Pokemon but when I do I must concede that SMT lacks Amie.

Fondling waifus and feeding them sweets when?
>>
>>158386746
it's in fire emblem!!!!!

haha oh wait
>>
>>158386170
Was this intentional or is Atlus bad at balancing difficulty?
>>
>>158387203
>bad at balancing difficulty?

Probably that
the game was designed to draw in a wider audience. Why intentionally scare them away at the start?
>>
>>158387203
Probably miscommunication between designers.
>>
>>158386746
If you want Amie features just hit up /x/ to summon and fondle real demons!
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>>158388260
I was gonna say
>x is all succubus and shit nowadays
And then I realized what you meant.
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>>158387203
Pretty obviously bad at balancing.

I don't think they realized that getting a crit or hitting a weakness in press turn is ALREADY doubling down on the inherent advantage of doing 150% damage by giving you a full extra turn.

So an enemy or boss that does 150% more damage than usual now gets an extra turn, to do 100-150% more damage again. Except with smirk, that actually just becomes 300% damage (guaranteed hit/crit + attack boost) and gives ANOTHER turn for 100-150% damage. So off of random chance, a single attack from a boss can lead directly to anywhere between regular 100% damage to 150+300+150% damage.

In a game with no defensive stats.

And with bosses balanced around getting 3 turns.
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>>158388316
Just don't have any weaknesses mate.

If you are a faithful Christian, you shouldn't get critted.
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>Toki's concept art

What in the goddamn...
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>>158388950
That's p cute
>>
Do all mainline games have physical (and maybe magical) damage scale up with your level alongside your stats?
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>>158355423
U.S. Texas
>>
So is there some secret I'm missing in lategame Devil Survivor, or is it just a case of "hope the boss with Dragon Eye and Pierce doesn't attack the main character more than once in his 3 turns"

Like, I haven't even found Phys Repel yet, so I'm not sure what I can do about that level of damage thanks to Pierce.
>>
>>158389631
Which boss?
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>>158389631
Yeah which boss?
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>>158355423
Meheeco
>>
>>158388950
Hat style reminds me of SMT1's Gaian Assassin.
I prefer that concept over current.
>>
>>158389859
>>158389992
Belial.

I took a chunk of his health with Ice Amped Ice Dance, and then he got his turn and attacked my main character twice for 300 damage each.

Even Atsuro at like 20 vit doesn't have more than 400 HP.

I'll probably just get lucky and he won't do that again next time, but it still seems like there's not much of an answer to it beyond that.
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>>158390305
Attack from away. Use Evil Wave or Chaos Wave or something. Belial's pretty easy.
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>>158297419
I am not that informed about VA, but is the guy who voices Walter a pretty big name in the industry?
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>>158298803
Yes why do you think he saved you during the law path, certainly not because he loves god so much.
>>
>>158388950
>Tfw no hat-wearing semen slurper
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>>158391687
Mercer is Nu-Kanji because Troy Baker's a faggot
>>
IVA OST fucking when?

also why is do we have two different pastebins for music?
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>>158388950
Toki looks too moe but the outfit is pretty good.
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>Tfw waiting for Strange Journey to come in the mail
>Tfw I see a lot of other anons itt did too
What am I in for sons of man?
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>>158355423
Brazil
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>>158355423
Germany
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>>158355423
Netherlands.

>>158392660
Sup neighbour.
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>>158392436
Keep away bosses
Annoying dungeons
Awful fusion system
Weak combat
One dimensional characters
>>
>>158392436
The best game under the Shin Megami Tensei name.
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>>158355423

USA, Washington
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>>158392436
Random pitfall traps and fork-in-the-road teleport mazes.
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>>158392902
what city?
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>>158392902
How long do you have to keep washing because you're certainly washing a ton LOL
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>>158393030
Who's that? Asahi?
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>>158393073
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>>158393228
Tokyo
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>>158393228
Ms. Retarded playing with a wheel goddess
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New thread
>>158393320
>>158393320
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>>158393262
>>158393292
Never realised how much she looks like Asahi
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>>158392238
>IVA OST fucking when?
Already in torrents.

>also why is do we have two different pastebins for music?
The first one is the legit one, the second one was thrown together real quick to replace the ded links.
At this point I'm sure that 80% of them are all down, but no one can be fucked to upload new ones.
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