AGDG Amateur Game Dev General - stay away from the garbage anime

Games in Excel are the future

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New New Spawn effects.

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takan a short-ish break from my main project to do a new smaller thing

i made a state of the art knockback mechanic

>>158369856
Dont take a break make that progress till you FINISH a game.

>>158369850
Look at Bokudev. 6 months here and still posting constant progress.

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hmmmm, what's this?

>>158370007
that's the whole point, I've never finished a game and my other project is really big ;_;
i want experience with things i've never done liek saving/loading menus audio etc and tbqh famalam im burned out

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>>158370013
hmmmmmmmm...

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Played around with redo-ing the stat screen. I separated them into groups, added the character name/class/level, and color-coded the base stat vs adjusted stat (base stat + modifiers from equipment/status effects). I still have to fix all the hitboxes though.

Tomorrow I will do the same thing for the skills screen.

I'm making a game with some pretty advanced mechanics. What's the best way to explain them?

I'd like to avoid lengthy tutorials or immersion - breaking documentation. Loading screen tips are old as dirt but I guess nothing wrong with it.

>>158370374
Tell people to play your game to understand them.

>>158370374
you need to learn how to introduce mechanics through gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMggqenxuZc

>>158369850
>>158370013
I am looking forward to the day when you guys have released your game and moved on to tumblr and reddit, and we look back to these times as the better days when agdg had more cool games

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A game with another game inside.

>>158371176
A game where you can't do anything!

>>158371176
A game with another game outside

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>>158371176
A game without a game

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A game where you fight 4chan posts.

How do you normalize values backwards?
Like I want to turn 0-1 into 0-255 scale.

>>158371550
That's this thread

>>158371587
thanks for making everyone in this thread feel better about their knowledge of math

>>158371587
Are you talking about Unity's Color(r, g, b) values? Just divide your value by 255.0 to get it to Unity's 0 - 1 scale.

>>158371587
i see youve found xinput

>>158371640
I don't get everyone's reactions. This post must be getting memed, cause that sounds like a perfectly reasonable solution.

>>158371640

0 x 255 -> 0
1 x 255 -> 255

0.2 x 255 -> 51
0.4 x 255 -> 102
0.6 x 255 -> 153

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>>158371725
Not him, but what's wrong, a number in 0-1 range when multiplied by 255 will never go above 255 or below 0.

>>158372276
It is. Notice how nobody is giving an alternative solution.

>>158372291
Yea, he said 0-255 scale, not 0 or 255

>>158372353
He also said 0 to 1, not 0 or 1.

>>158369856
I call this technique the "Notch" technique.

source: his blog during infdev

>>158372353
I didn't want to correct anyone, just showing examples that it works.

Because I imagine there is at least one person being confused about it.
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>>158371807
>>158372079
>>158372192

>>158372413
Yea, so multiplication examples you provided are fine, all parameters are inside input range and so are all outputs.

>>158371686
forget i said this
everyone in this thread is retarded but me

The above is all samefagging. Multiplying a value between 0 and 1 by 255 will result in value between 0 and 255

>>158372506
Oh, ignore this then
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>>158372589
HAHAHA did you fail kindergarten math?

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>>158372589
>Multiplying a value between 0 and 1 by 255 will result in value between 0 and 255

you can't be serious

shitposting is in full force today.
is this new meme since source dev get ignored?

Remember to report the samefag

>>158372652

If you don't like multiplying you can also divide it by 1/255

Thread is infested by retards and/or trolls
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>>158372192

>>158372745
Okay, give an example where your greentext isn't true.

>>158372745
Did you EVER went to school?

look at >>158372291

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>>158372787

>>158372874
Division is slow.

>>158372879
>who seriously thinks this

IT and math students?

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>>158373120

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Guys, where's the joke?

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>>158371725
Get a life
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>>158373023

@No.158373497
This meme arrows joke needs to die

is there a baby mode guide to timestep, any language?
Gaffer's thing makes sense, but I'm too stupid to implement it with confidence.

>>158373390
Your OS is the joke.

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21 mockups in, fuck it, implemented it, I'm done, holy fuck GUI is frustrating.

>>158373724
It's shit, try again.

>>158373724
oh my, how did u calculated the value between 0-255?

>>158373390
you just proved what was wrong with the initial statement. What the hell is wrong with you?

>>158373780
int width = (int)MathHelper.Clamp((screensize.X - LocalPosition.X - (textlength* 8) - 46)/BarMax, 50, 125);

Like that.

What an awful thread.

>>158373958
Lol it's board culture bro, go cry to 9gag about it

>>158373662
>Literally not your game. Fuck off, nodev.
Because it's an idea i put together.
It's just some artwork i found to help my imagination, and how it may look.

I decided I have no drive for making a game if I can't make it look beautiful to my standards I expect from other games.

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>had previous 3dsmax and maya experience before uni
>go into course acting like i know shit and i'm ahead of everyone
>finish the model we were assigned an hour for in 20 minutes
>call the lecturer over to ask if it's ready to be textured
>mfw he points out like 30 mistakes I made
>mfw he cuts down on 35-40 polys just by target welding verts and deleting edges
>mfw i've probably had a ridiculous amount of useless polys in my games in the past

>>158374149
Where's YOUR game, fag?

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this is the model btw
>>158374298

mine was all symmetrical and made out of quads but i had a ridiculous amount of verts and edges that weren't helping with anything whatsoever.

>>158374149
Because I like the idea of making a game. But I will not force my self to, because my life doesn't depend on it and I don't like to make a game I wouldn't enjoy myself.

>>158374419
I guess it's the optimized version.
It's what is used in the game, but you don't use it to make big changes or variants of it.

>>158374575
It's the perspective view.

The handles are the exact same size and extruded at the same time.

>>158374482
>he still hasn't posted his game
I think you should lead the way out the door.

>>158374853
Have you discussed with your therapist about the fact that you talk to yourself in social media?

>this entire thread
What the fuck

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>>158374975
klink klink ;)

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I'm still adding more to the level.
Being creative with level design is harder than I thought.

>>158375201
the secret summoning words worked, I can't believe it

>>158373724
What's the deal with your GUI being some futuristic plastic looking shit, while your guy is wearing medieval armor and your game is called ancient saga?
Seems kind of off message.

>>158374691
I think you should stop acting like a fedora

>>158371640
Fucking kek

>>158374298
>>158374419
It's a lot easier to make things out of neat quads but like your teacher showed you they really do add up to a lot of useless verts/tris.

Welding is a fucking stupid term btw. It's like modelers are some sort of metal workers. Merging makes a lot more sense if you're talking to a beginner or someone who doesn't understand as much about the subject.

>>158375519
Please post your game progress.

>>158375351
A sand level with a big worm, everyone loves sand worms

>>158375351
you should be adding more to framerate, instead

>>158375351
Just copy star fox.

I don't like this replacement for sourcememe

>>158375915
You should report it then

>>158375624
How was that not a good comment? It is true what he said. The UI makes no sense. Where is your game loser? Or are you the guy he's replying to, feeling butthurt?
>>158373724
But ja, that UI is bad. It's big, distracting, has pointless things like random circle and buttons, and doesn't fit with the rest of the game. Also whats the point of having fuck tons of bars and then also numbers? Literally just add thing red, blue and green bar with the number in the middle if you so wish, and its gonna be far better than what you got now. But I guess I must just say looks good anon, otherwise losers will berate me too with where's your game, because clearly there is no room for criticism in amateur game dev board.

>>158371587
Samefag here, I figured out how to do it. Thanks guys.

>>158371640
This didn't work. Figured out a better way to do it.

>>158376018
>I figured out how to do it
PM me

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Why is no one using the Apex cloth stuff in their games?

>>158376169
People do

>that one guy working on that fucking garden gnome game

just let it die dude fuck

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>>158375606
B-but anon the tool is called target welding

>>158376281
Reddit keeps him going. And nintendo likes him. Just admit he made it.

>>158376362
It's just like, I don't know. He's obviously passionate enough about it -- or too stubborn to stop now -- but how do you not do some introspection and be like "it has been two years, this game objectively looks like shit and garden gnome fantasy doesn't even make sense what the fuck was I thinking" and change around the assets

>>158376330
Yeah but merging makes sense if you talk about it in English without the need of knowing more about the concept. It's a simpler way to explain things.

>>158376614
Yeah you're absolutely correct. I guess he just refers to it as welding because that's what it's called and he never thought to simplify it.

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What is this art style called? Basically, everything except characters and interesting objects is left untextured, or textured a solid color. Its not flat-shaded though.

>>158376692
Laziness

>>158376603
I kinda feel the same honestly.

>>158376692
Lazy.
Shit.
Awful.
Terrible.
Low-budget.

pick one.

>>158376731
>>158376762
Sounds perfect for 1 man army. Thanks.

>>158376692
I'd call it the lazy art style.

This is the worst meme on AGDG

This is why better chan has IDs.

>>158376870
Actually, nevermind. A quick look up on floats tell me the significand is completely separate from the base^exponent, just like in real maths. Your precision is the same no matter how large a value you use (32 bit floats can have 7 decimal digits, as per the IEEE 754 standard).

Actually, I'm wondering how people can get this wrong when floats are this easy to understand.

>>158377295
How would IDs help this situation

>>158377295
That place is shit and dead and IDs wouldn't change anything because of phone posters or people resetting their routers.

>>158377518
There are 1 or 2 spammers fucking the whole thread.

>>158377576
Not hard to hide posts replying to that post.

The shitposters are out in full force this morning. What's going on?

>>158377957
>shitposters
shitposter
fify.
there's only 1 crazy shitposter that samefag himself nonstop.

>>158378020
And yet he still outnumbers the janitors

>>158377957
It's just one guy. Report. Hide. Ignore.

Are there any 3D frameworks comparable to SFML and Love2D?

Basically bare minimum yet useful framework except for 3D instead of 2D that doesn't suck dick.

Think about
Procedually generated OSTs

>>158378163
No Man's Sky did that

>>158378162
Not really. Godot is the most lightweight 3D engine I can think of, but it's not bare minimum.

>>158378162
Unity

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>Aggydaggers worried about engines which add 300mb to their packaged filesize

>>158378253
That sucks, I'll check out Godot, maybe I could make it slimmer, essentially I want a framework to fuck around with rather than an entire engine.

>>158378269
Unity is a bloated engine, not a framework.

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>>158378306

>130gb

WHAT THE FUCK

>>158378306
AAA games can usually get away with it. But If some random indie 2D pixel platformer was 130 GB then hell no I wouldn't download it.

But Also there's no way in hell I'd download even an AAA game that's 130 GB, that's just ridiculous.

>>158378306
It might be so important for a fully released game that costs money.

But on demo day, I'm not downloading anything over 100mb.

>>158378426
>If some random indie 2D pixel platformer was 130 GB
That's a meme game waiting to happen, I'm sure people would download it just for the bants.

I wonder if Valve would object to 100GB entries for greenlight.

>>158376692
That artstyle can work, but you have to be careful. At a minimum,

>characters
>floors
>vehicles
>wood

all need textures. Nothing looks worse than someone just using a brown cube for what is supposed to be wood.

>>158378162
I would say OGRE. The only way it's not comparable, is that it doesn't have any sound handling or input or anything like that. It's simply for graphics.

>my game is already 4 mb and I barely have anything

PANIC

>>158378162
Well, maybe what you are looking for is a wrapper for OpenGL. Check out Ogre, maybe that's what you seek.

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>>158378426
A game where there's 125gb of soundtracks so you never listen to the same music unless you played for thousand of hours.

>>158378771
cs_italy

>>158378915

>solely my games textures is at 34.5 MB right now
>I literally only have weapon textures and a few props
>Not a single character model, skyboxes, most props, structures, floors or building textures in sight

WE HAVE TO GO DEEPER

>>158379006
Imagine trying to find the soundtrack that you liked, but don't know the name of it.

Anybody here has tried rapid skill acquisition?

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>>158378306

Warthunder is like 30gb. I had to move it to normal HDD just because it was getting too huge.

The only game I install on my SSD is Path of Exile. It takes almost 10 minutes to load if you don't.

But 130gb is unacceptable.

>>158378915
8mb, here

Debug version, so that might change.

>>158379079
my game has no textures or assets, so I expect the final result to have a fairly non-existant footprint.

>>158379124
>that anatomy

what the fuck lol

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>>158376731
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>>158378771

None of those are helpful. Here's another example of the look I'm talking about.

Also, not source, because there is actually lighting

>>158379078
I'm going to make an TF age regression game.

also give source

>>158378915
Hello fellow SFML-dev.

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sometimes i find myself wondering if between uncontrollable fits of rage of a certain samefag and other people actively trying to make /agdg/ look bad i really want to keep posting my game here

i'm not asking for a shitty reddit hugbox, i'm just asking for a place that doesn't strive to make me look like a retard instead of making my game look like shit

i die inside imagining even a single person associating me with these shitposters and saying "yes, this dude definitely does things like that and this accurately represents his views"

>>158379634
>letting this shitposter get under your skin
You're giving him exactly what he wants. He wants yesdevs like you to leave, and he hopes you give up. That's the whole reason he posts.
No one is going to associate you with shitposting, everyone knows it's only a couple of idiots who try to ruin the thread. And no one outside of /agdg/ really cares at all.

>>158379634
Leave. We don't want your shitty work associated with us.

>>158379634
just ignore shitposters retard.
get a thicker skin.

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Mixamo is the shit

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>>158380104
you're right anons

>>158380427
that's a cute bug man.

>>158378915
My font is 4.4 MB

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>>158380564
Its a pistol shrimp
And Thanks .

>>158380427
How much is it?

>>158380670
What? I only use it for quick rigging(had to fix it a little but tho), but you can get some animations for free i think

>Like X but with Y

Ok, I know its a meme, but how about a game like Resident Evil, but with Alien: Isolation.

By that I mean you have to explore the mansion (or some other location), gathering items, solving puzzles etc...but instead of zombies set around, there is one single unkillable Alien (or another monster) who randomly patrols the whole mansion.

>>158380801
So Resident Evil but Nemesis is an alien instead of a zombie?

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Post dev music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBUi-ZYN4QM

>>158380902
>expecting anyone here to actually play video games

>>158380902
In all of those, every enemy is killable, and there are many placed around the map.

I'm talking about a lone, unkillable, randomly patrolling enemy.

half life gargantua

>>158380801
Slender?

>>158380776
They're all free

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>>158380959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo

what is a full sail?

>>158381426
My nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj-M9pvQSyo

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And climbing is in!
I think that's enough for today..

What do you guys think?
Should i add mine carts?

And maybe other vehicles like a submarine for something like DKCs' animal buddies?

>>158380959
I usually just have some twitch livestream running.
But you can have this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqT0iFZifgw

>>158381516
how can a person drop out of a diaper?

>>158381549
Pretty sure rope mechanics like that are patented.

>>158380959
>music
>not listening to chill sounds
http://asoftmurmur.com/

>>158380959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MC0G-Lbuuk

>>158381549
That initial grab is pretty jerky

>>158380959
Halloween themed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GivkxpAVVC4

>>158381613
what? why should they? and how could they?

If it counts as a game mechanic it should not be protectable.

>>158381692
hm, you're right and i see why that is.
Let's see if i can.. no.. how fast i can fix it!

>>158381549
Good job, you made a N64 standard game.
Wish you made it 20 years earlier.

>>158381801
>If it counts as a game mechanic it should not be protectable.

Thats not true. Individuals can't patent game mechanics, but LLCs can.

>>158380959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjGbnPYwt1g

>>158381931
Fuck off with this stale meme

>>158381892
>Good job, you made a N64 standard game.
>Wish you made it 20 years earlier.

Like all those 8bit style indy games being popular these days?

>>158381902
Guess I'll take the risk for now and not worry before i get actual legit complaints.

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>>158373724
I made you a generic RPG UI mockup.

Has there ever been a Source game that looked good?

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Has there even be a Parody Game jam?

Because it would be a great success

>>158382124
>Like all those 8bit style indy games being popular these days?
Find me some 8bit style indie game that's popular and widely received.
the game must also be exact copy of the old game with no innovations or no changes to the gameplays like your game did.

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http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Capcom_v._Data_East

>agdg has never read even the wikipedia page on copyright law
as expected of high schoolers.

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>>158380959

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qm4ZvmDACY&index=25&list=RDNpOtkhBcc8k

While I work, I look for possible ambient music options for my game.

@158382461
>going back to your lawsuit/patent troll gimmick
You really need to lurk /int/ more if you want to be a renown shitposter.

>>158370287
The last paragraph is somewhat right, though. If you were to treat floats as ints, your maximum value would be 2^23. You lose precision if you go beyond that (as soon as you start using -1 and lower as your exponent).

You can fix that by using either doubles or avoiding large values, however.

>>158382367
>with no innovations or no changes to the gameplays like your game did.
Dude, my game does not even have it's first level, not even all the moves, no items yet, 1 basic enemy.
Of course there isn't much yet. It's called erly development phase.

>>158382245
Even if you say that you can't call me a shitposter unless I shitpost

>>158382645
>(as soon as you start using -1 and lower as your exponent).
Oops, I meant using 1 and higher as your exponent. Fuck me.

>>158382706
>not even all the moves, no items yet, 1 basic enemy.
>L-look, my character uses nuts to whack enemy, n-nobody did that before
>L-look, there's diamond n-nuts in my game, it's so s-special, g-guys
>L-look, instead of m-monkeys, i put in a purple monkey
First Impression is important, and you failed it.
You should asks nintendo to publish it for you on N64.
for nostalgia sake

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>>158381692
>>158381801
alright, it should look better now.

>>158382913
>First Impression is important, and you failed it.
First impression yeah, reply to me again when i got a first complete level and mechanics for public display in.
Of course a half assed debug room looks shit, it doesn't have to look nice and fancy and feature all the bling bling.

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>>158380427

Aaaaw shiiiitt you're fuckin DOIN this man. I'm hype.

I forgot, what's the theme of these guys gonna be, actual anthropomorphized shrimps and shit, or are they gonna be in armor?

If it's armor, consider going full Toku and making everyone look fabulous in their armor, hamming it the fuck up with their dialogue, and making dramatic poses

>>158383169
This looks nice

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If you could get your hands on any game engine, royalty/cost free, what would it be?

R* advanced game engine masterrace here.

>>158383082
It Will be anthro shrimps i think, ill make a super smash tv themed , like a tournament or just a TV show , im having trouble to decide the ambience and etc, but the gameplay is set, he will have some claw upgrades that change the model and the projectiles and shit

>>158383274
My own™

>>158383274
That Euclideon unlimited detail one, just for the bants

>>158383297

Consider hammy poses for victory screens/animations between levels at least. I look forward to this

>>158383169
pumpkins and bats have the better color.
Fuck Yes.

>>158383417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AvCxa9Y9NU

Whoa. It looked so real.

>>158383486
I like this, i'll do it

>>158383604
that's the compensation for being not spooky.

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> want to make a first person game
> every idea I come up with end up being out of scope or walking / survival simulators

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>>158383169
>a knife and my dick

>>158383672
If you have solid core mechanics, the rest isn't that important.
You could do something like Superhot or Devil Daggers.

>>158383169
Is this a joke?
Why did you leave the fake googem post?

>>158383781
> solid core mechanic

Oh so that's my problem. Now I understand.

>>158383169
> tfw every single one looks and sounds like good progress

I envy these people.

>>158383169
seems like it doesn't read "&" properly.
it became & instead.
should i avoid it next time?
or u gonna fix it? recap bro.

>>158383951
Don't worry, all won't make it

Taking me as a start

>>158383169
Based.

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>>158383951
i made so little progress i was too ashamed to post in the recap this time

>>158384056
What's important is that they did progress. They practiced. They learned new skills on improved on their current ones. Finishing a game is a huge bonus, but irrelevant for a long time.

They did it by posting in the recap and doing the things they stated.

I did not.

I'm the true loser here in the end.

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>>158383672

How about this?

Ero-hentai Purchasing Simulator

Player is a basement dwelling NEET that rises out of the shadows of his abode at night to prowl nearby Convenience stores to purchase hentai magazines. General gameplay involves scoping out a convenience store (Conbini) to make sure no women are manning the counters, using stealth to avoid other customers and rapidly buying their mags using a disguise to avoid being identified.

Players have a social anxiety metre that can be triggered by females, too many people/crowds, being seen with magazines or dropping their spaghetti (you can even make it literal for extra laughs). If a player generates too much social anxiety, they curl up in a ball and have a panic attack (game over).

If a player makes it back home with the magazines, they get to read them (you can scan these off the net). For extra authenticity keep the hentai mags in Japanese.

Spooky game mechanics can include getting hit by a truck, getting mugged by another NEET, getting molested by drunk salarymen or beaten to death by female biker gang.

You're welcome.

(ooo optional, player wears a hood and the audience assumes it's a guy. At the end of the game the player takes off the hood and reveals A GIRL - brilliant)

>>158383672
Do a first person getaway driving game, that plays like the opening scene in Drive. You have to listen to cues from the police scanner, and try to evade streets where police are patrolling.

is there anyone here who wants to mix diferent styles and resolutions in the same game?

like having photorealistic 3D next to low poly with pixel art textures, pixel art characters, low res icons, SNES sprites, orchestral VST music next with chiptunes?

>>158384050
My bad, didn't catch that. Just fixed

>>158384442
Heresy

>>158384442
It would be pretty difficult to make it look consistent and good. That's the main reason games with "mixels" tend to look worse, because they don't have a consistent style.

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>>158384442
That usually looks like shit.

Something related that I like a lot though is older PS/PS2 era low poly, with high resolution dynamic lighting in modern engines.

>>158384551
>>158384635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PQ3NVb8SPI
it can look great if well done.

look up world of goombal, harvey birdman, drawn togheter and other modern shows.

What the best way to make roads on a map in Unreal 4?

Should I open up Maya and sculpt some squiggly road, unwrap it, and do photoshop some roadlines on it, or is there a native way to do something like this with splines directly in the engine?

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>>158384828
get gud scrub.

>>158384969
https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Resources/ContentExamples/Landscapes/1_2/

You can search the documentation you know, I found this by typing in "spline"

>>158384832
But I don't like these shows exactly for this reason
I think panty and stocking is a different thing. I also hate when they mix 3D into 2D animes.

>>158385094
If you weren't so snarky, I would have thanked you for your help.

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I know you prefer webbums to actual games.

>>158385123
I think panty and stocking is the best example.

Drawn togheter and harvey birdman comes close as looking also fine.

world of gumball crosses the line though.

I like it.

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>>158376692
>>158379192
Still don't have a name for this art style.

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>>158385212
So I'll post some.

>>158385208
You'll remember you can search next time you want to find something simple because you'll remember that asshole who was snarky towards you.

>>158375505
Mostly because I have no idea how to actually shade the damn thing, but it's good enough for now. I'll have to go over it later. The blue plasticy looking bit is actually player colorable in the settings, and while I know that is a terrible idea, I want to see how far I can push it, within reason. Also it is technically sci fi.

>>158375986
I'm not sure how to reply to this other than that numbers are disabled by default, but they're there for people who want them, and the circle and lamps are what I chose to best represent how a secondary mechanic works. Also what's with that where's your game meme anyways? I've always found it baity

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https://twitter.com/YoYoGames/status/790915831416913920
FINALLY some actual features.
>Brush Editor
>Auto Tiling

And as I predicted, they're room editor related.

>November
Is that a fucken release date?! holy shit

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>>158385325

>>158385313
That's because it's not an art style, it's a lack of art style.

Untextured, unfinished. Though in that example it could be assumed the walls and ceiling were simply painted white since the floor has a texture.

>>158385251
There are no clashing mediums in the same scene in paty and stocking, at least in the video you provided.

>>158385313
I don't think it has a name. It's just flat color textures on sparse geometry rendered with ambient occlusion and stuff. The latter part wasn't a thing you could actually do until pretty recently. It would look totally different in another renderer.

I'm gonna call it "sparse photo." I literally made that up just now but you keep asking for a name so now you have one.

>>158385414
Can't wait to pay a monthly fee to use this, thanks YoYo :^)

>>158385619
is that confirmed or are you memeing?

>>158384442
>>158384832
This is some next level san fran hipster pipe dream shit right now. Video games aren't animations or comics, they're an interactive medium and what works in animation doesn't have a lot of cross-over to video games for a myriad of reasons.

If you wanted to do something like this you should be starting how the art style changes meaningful to some sort of gameplay concept, not "What if I made a game with this brainfart art style", because if you go at it with the latter attitude you'll end up with a pointless mess.

>>158385619
>>158385652
anyway that's the sort of thing which piracy fixes.

>>158385701
I disagree, I dont think art style has to be that close-knit to gameplay.

>>158385652
people speculate that this whole "meet your new overlord that will make you his bitch" shit yoyogames is pulling is a teaser for gms2, which is more or less just a new paint of coat on gms (new ide) + subscription based sales model
those new tile features do look promising, but i wouldn't get my hopes up that much. if it's actually worth its salt, its purchase model will likely be fucked to hell and back

>>158386010
If the artstyle is consistent, then it doesn't need to be linked with the gameplay. However, what you're talking about is a gimmick that isn't going to make sense or feel relevant unless it has context in the actual game mechanics or setting.
Visual art is a something that enhances a game, it's not the purpose of the game and if you try to make a with art that has no logical context to the underlying game, it will be shit.

>>158386214
>which is more or less just a new paint of coat on gms (new ide)
true
>+ subscription based sales model
wut

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No major progress but I tried adding a 'look up/down' feature that works with the scrollwheel, does it make sense?
Also, now it's possible to remove items from the inventory (I still haven't implemented using them before removing them though).

>>158386596
I would recommend a control method that naturally returns the player view back to level if the player lets up their fingers. Scroll wheel is one of the few controls on the PC that is incapable of that though.

WHAT HAPPENED TO CORRIDOOR DEV?!?

>>158384832
in the case Panty and stocking it's less of a mix of art styles, and more of a switching between art styles. It uses western style, or the anime style, or the real prop style (exploding ghost) at any given time, but never a mix of them at the same time. Further more, Gainax is dead so season 2 never.
In the case of drawn together and harvey birdman, I founds the visual styles to be a but clashing, but the writing was good enough to forgive it, and it made sense given the characters and nostalgia they were playing off of.

In a game you can still play off of nostalgia, but you have to be clever about it, and have consistency in your inconsistency. Give the player good reasons to accept an 8-bit sprite next to a 32-bit sprite, next to a low poly character, next to a high poly character. Maybe the story can be the high poly character represents AAA studios, where the simpler art can represent indie or retro gaming of old, in an attempt to validate and motetise the ageing gamer's feeling of "GAMING WAS BETTER AND MORE PURE IN MY DAY!" but it would take a good deal of thought to accomplish.

>>158386596
Looks good man. That up and down control scheme reminds me of shooters back on the N64.

>>158386596
Also forgot to ask: should medkits and ammo clips/magazines whatever be used automatically when you pick them up or should they be stored in the inventory and used manually?

>>158386850
Yeah I only went with the scrollwheel because it's the least intrusive control I cold find, since the player will have
>left mouse button to shoot
>right mouse button to reload
>cursor to aim
>WASD to move
>Q to swap weapons
>F to interact
>Shift to run

>>158387025
>Also forgot to ask: should medkits and ammo clips/magazines whatever be used automatically when you pick them up or should they be stored in the inventory and used manually?

Magzines should probably autoreload.

If you want to go like Resident, you could carry health around and use it when you need it. I don't know what your level design is like, but if it is open, making the player backtrack for them sounds fun.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1YGJk45RI
>tfw doing this
>tfw agdg is so pleb they will never know about this

>>158387265
>making textures in paint

Lol

>>158386596
normal camera controls are really easy to add, unless you're purposely making them be retarded for some reason you should do that.

>>158379192
Flat shading probably

>>158387025
If you want to keep it scroll wheel at least make clicking it return the view to level. Looking up and down seems like a rarely needed feature and I see it being a thing that players accidentally use and get their screens in a weird angle and fuck up.

>Deleted (81 of 81)

>>158387414
Yeah that makes sense.
I'm still not sure whether to keep it anyway, but I thought that it could make things easier for looking at stuff that's positioned lower down.

>>158369850
PICO!!! PICO!!! PICO!!!

>>158387387
Nah, flat shading is removing smoothing so polygon edges are hard, although many flat shaded games use simple/blank textures.

>>158387265
I can load 3D models into Photoshop.

>>158387351
Tank controls are a stable of older survival horror. Encounters should be cumbersome and dangerous. Its not tense or scary if the player than strafe around and do 360 noscopes likes this is doom or something.

>>158387387
That screen is clearly not flatshaded.

anyone else make game but never post progress here?

>>158387719
>Tank controls are a stable of older survival horror.

You know what 99.99% of players are going to call your game if you use such extreme tank controls in the current year? I'm betting it won't be "nostalgic".

>>158388852
Sometimes I wonder why I even post progress here. Replies are never positive at all.

>>158388925
That's exactly why you should

>>158388852
I have some games I never post here though I do post progress on other games from time to time

>>158388963
Constructive criticism is positive. The kinds of posts I'm talking about range from straight "Your game is shit." to "Kill yourself." That's definitely negative.

>>158388854
this

there are other ways to make tense situations. limit ammo, require headshots, make melee combat clunky to the tune of rng, make running a viable option. poor controls feel like crap to play, have you ever gone back and played RE1?

>>158388852
i am usually too embarrassed to post progress
but ive still posted about a hundred videos here by now

>>158388925
Hey man that's a nice post. Good job.

>>158388963
Not everyone wants or needs criticism for everything

>>158387719
Being able to strafe does not make a moment less tense or less scary. Besides if you want to you can make strafing and walking backwards be slower than walking forwards.
There's no reason to use tank controls for human characters.

>>158389150
Just to be clear, I find constructive criticism to be positive. But negative, I just mean that everything just uses my shit to shitpost.

>>158389110
Lolidev?

>>158389260
Nah. I'd rather not say who I am since I'll be branded as a whiny bitch though. Never ever put a face to anything people can use as a weapon against you on 4chan.

>>158389204
>Being able to strafe does not make a moment less tense or less scary.

Sorry, but this is settled science. Alone in the Dark, all the good resident evils, all the good Silent Hills, Clock Tower, etc... all have tank controls.

You are literally arguing against a mechanic shared by all the power house games in the genres history. You might as well be arguing against jumping in Mario.

>>158389350
>he can't take the bantz
Just leave you pussy

>>158389430
I'd rather not my existence alone cause endless shitposting that'd ruin threads. That's happened before when I was working on a different game.

Guy making >>158386596 here, I realize tank controls and the current camera controls may seem clunky, but I'm trying to emulate RE Survivor which worked kind of like this.
Also 'normal' camera controls (which I suppose would involve moving the mouse) wouldn't really work since you already move the cursor to aim. I'll see what I can do about it though.

>>158389530
Ever wondered why that happened?

>>158389405
Let's ignore all the horror games with strafing hmm?

>>158389687
I know exactly why it happened, why do you think I'm avoiding it?

>>158389260
lolidev doesn't care about that. in fact he feeds on it. probably posts specifically to get that type of reaction

>>158389759
Well you could change so that won't happen again. Or you could leave and never come back since all you do is whine.

Should hitscan only be used for bullets that have instant travel time?

>>158389712
What about them? I'm not saying strafing can never work. I'm defending his choice of tank controls. Tank controls are a completely acceptable choice of control for a survival horror, as evidenced by all the juggernauts in the genre that use them.

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>>158389937
I'll give you a gold star for participation, anon, but you really have to try harder.

>>158390192
Realistically they don't use them in a first person setting, though.

>>158390191
no, hitscan is trash.

>>158389405
Bro, you are so wrong right now.

Those games are well regarded because they were developed at a time when it was normal and acceptable to have shit control schemes for 3rd person shooters and point and clicks.
Case in point, games like tomb raider and and MGS also had tank controls despite definitely not being horror games, simply because that was all you could do with console controllers at the time.
If you try to do that sort of shit today as people will not accept it. Period.
The most you can get away with is slow aiming rotation, like dead space and RES4.

I'm guessing you're not going to listen to reason until it's too late, though.

>>158378915
>Tfw 2mb

>>158378915
My gamejam game was 700mb, so you're doing fine.

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Can anybody offer me a little advice?
I have an object that's supposed moves left and right from its created position using linear interpolation.
The problem is that even though x is reaching the target (says so in the debug message), the conditional isn't being ran. I have no idea since the target position is 160 and the object's x will reach exactly 160. What am I doing wrong?
Engine is Game Maker but I don't think that makes much of a difference.

>>158390192
Except you did say strafing wont work
>Encounters should be cumbersome and dangerous. Its not tense or scary if the player than strafe around and do 360 noscopes likes this is doom or something.

And just because popular games use that control system doesn't mean it's good. Look at Armored Core games for the PS1, those games had terrible controls, but they were popular. Does that mean all mecha games should have terrible controls? No, because the controls were the thing people complained about.
Tank controls in a first person game where you're not driving a tank is not fun.

>>158390684
Actually, correction, only 500mb. I'm pretty good.

>>158390247
What?

>>158390749
>Resident Evil and Silent Hill are not fun

Is this really what kids today think?

>>158390706
Also I just realized the lerp amount in the debug message is different from the actual lerp amount. I corrected it but the problem still exists. Just ruling that out.

>>158390749
>Tank controls in a first person game where you're not driving a tank is not fun in my personal and not at all objective opinion.
Fixed.

>>158390915
I said the controls aren't fun. That doesn't mean the games aren't fun. But the games would be better with better controls.

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>>158391018
>But the games would be better with better controls.

You are a retard.

>>158390706
it looks like you're only reversing the direction when the thing is moving right? (if direction==1)

How do I check if an object has been clicked in GM?

>>158390915
>>158390962
Good luck making a game for an audience that doesn't exist.

>>158390915
I played silent hill for the first time relatively recently. The controls and the awful hitbox detection absolutely runs the game. Which is a shame because everything about it is nice.

>>158391127
press up to move up, press down to move down, press left to move left, press right to move right.
It's fucking easy, and it can be done without tank controls.

>>158391152
xDirection is set to 1 when the object is created, and once it reaches the target, it's reversed. Then it does the same thing but reversed.
But it's not getting reversed because show_message isn't activating.

>>158391167
by being not retarded

>>158391282
To be fair, in a game with a game with lots of camera changes in an area, with a fixed camera, analog controls around transition points can get really funky. Not that he has that problem as his game is first person.

>>158391304
>xD

>>158391324
guess you can't do it then

>>158391173
http://store.steampowered.com/app/433380/
Back In 1995 just came out in April and was made by a 3 man team.

Besides, who the fuck makes things for audiences? The whole point of amateur dev is to make games that you want to play.

>>158388852
yes, i determined posting progress was bad was for me.

positive responses messes with your motivation
negative responses messes with your motivation
no responses messes with your motivation

and then you feel compelled to spend more time here in case someone says your name

>>158391497
bad for me*

>>158391469
what?

>>158391167
if you mean if you are currently clicking it
in the step event check if the mouse has been clicked and if yes, if the mouse coordinates collide with the object

if you mean if it has ever been clicked, give it a bool and set it to true if it was clicked

>>158391470
https://docs.yoyogames.com/source/dadiospice/002_reference/movement%20and%20collisions/collisions/
Read the documents.

>>158391167
>>158391470
Just a tip, when asking a super basic question about a specific engine it is almost always better to just google it. That's the sort of question that has been asked and answered a million times, so you'll get your answer in a matter of seconds.

>>158391167
easy: mouse events (they're not named very descriptively so use the help file)
GML: point_in_rectangle() using sprite bbox coordinates and mouse coordinates

>>158388852
getting 10 replies from my progress is nice but it makes me complacent

>>158391495
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/433380/

Whats funny is that most the negative reviews there actually praise the tank controls. The reviews complained about bugs, story, and graphics. I didn't see a single person mention tank controls in a negative light, and almost every review mentions them favorably.

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>>158383297
>>158383082
>>158380659
>>158380427
Live and Let Die!

Round 1...

...FIGHT!

>>158391495
>>158391923

>Back In 1995 just came out in April and was made by a 3 man team.

>52% on metacritic
>49 reviews (mixed)
>Owners: 1,032 ± 1,009
>Median play time: 1:20

Good example fellas, definitely shows that there is an audience for this stuff.

>>158391695
>>158391732
>>158391762
>>158391894

Alright, thanks guys. I appreciate the feedback. I'll try not asking super basic questions next time.

>>158392174
How much did your game sell?

>>158392291
>Le epix maymay

Restricted-RPS moved about as many copies as that game and has double the median play time. Your example game is a bigger failure than googem, lel.

Why is UV/Unwrapping so shit?

>>158392748
Because you're new to it.

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>>158385212
>top-tip:
>fly into the balls
>mfw

No but your game looks great anon. Keep up the good work. Love you.

>>158392730
>game that came out 3 months ago vs "game" that cam out more than a year ago
come on man

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>>158392748
What seems to be the problem, anon? It's a pretty simple concept.

>>158392748
Because it is. There is basically no creative fun in it.

>>158392947
Lol, how fucking delusional are you.
When you fail pathetically like those guys did, remember that I told you so.

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this looks better than what 99% of agdg can do.
stay mad.

>>158393274
Great argument.
I never meant to sell it, retardino. I'm making games for fun, not for money.

>>158393034
is that a webm of a bad example? shouldn't it be an actual cube template?

>>158393337
to be fair he never said anything about money

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so we announced this today. I'm excited/scared. launching next month

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>>158393315

>>158393420
Looks cute. Good luck to you and your team!

>>158393420
I bet you guys will get like 10k of funding.
I really wish you didn't change the protag's design, the new one just isn't as charming.

>>158393420
whoa.

good luck, senpai.

>>158393315
Feels good to be the 1%

>>158393420
You're gonna make it my man.

>>158393420
>a generic platformer for kickstarter
wow

>>158393420
Please give keys and don't forget about us after you're successful