/scg/ Star Citizen General #81

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1st with best ship.

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2nd for spook

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xth for incompetent flight model devs who don't know what the FUCK they're doing

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I need some help making up my mind.
Through various poor decisions and bad money management skills. I have a Cutlass Black, right now, but for $10 I can upgrade to a Freelancer.
The Freelancer has a better weapon load out and better cargo space, but I don't like its cockpit view compared to the Cutlass.

Should I wait out the Cutlass redesign, or should I upgrade to what that one guy used to post in every thread as the best ship?

>>158352731

there is no particular reason to change anything

wait for the rework before you pull the trigger

>>158352731
Doesn't Cutlass do more damage with flashfire?

>>158352471
>chugging through writing up ship feedback posts trying to resist the desire to just write "INCREASE THE SPEED OF EVERY SHIP BY 50M/S, YOU COCK SUCKERS!" over and over again instead

>>158352731
freelancer will continue to be on sale.
there's no reason to make up your mind till after the cutlass rework.

>>158352731
Wait for the redesign at least.

>>158352471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1kMbC8ZxE

could be worse m8

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>>158353195
what the fuck
that's superman 64 levels of shit

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Anybody have any images of the remodel?

>>158352731
>Freelancer owner here, wait for the redesign.

Much of the issues with the Cutlass is thruster and nacelle placement, which will hopefully be fixed by the redesign.

Much of the issue with the Freelancer is the viewport, which won't likely change as it's already gone through a redesign.

As said before, there's no reason to buy a CCU right now; Freelancer will always be available.

>>158353195
To me it looks like the flight model is simply ultra responsive.

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>>158353506
>
who was I quoting

>>158353195

boy the new EDF really isn't doing itself any favors

>>158353691
Cmon man even wing divers have a better flight model than that.

>>158353506
There's always the slight chance the DUR and MIS will have better views.

>>158353751

wing divers a shit

fencer and ranger for life

>>158353867
FENCER STRONG
THRUST

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>>158352930
>>158352992
>>158353506
Appreciate the insight.

>>158352886
You seem to be under the impression that I'm the sort of not drunk person that would research alternate weapons before asking a question online.

>>158354217
Just looking at this

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/335507/a-look-at-ship-dps-with-the-behring-m-series/p1

Not really following either ship myself

>>158352017

When will the Rack be on sale next?

>>158352471

>CIG changes flight model and adjusts speeds to have dogfighting instead of circle-strafing shooting
>Everyone ends up circle-strafing anyway

Remind me why I backed an incompetent game studio again?

>>158355863

that's not why they did it, they did it to stop 'pixel shooting' because how else are you going to see their ''''detailed''''' destruction models

>>158356254

Oh, my apologies. I was under the assumption that CIG was actually trying to make their game not shit.

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Why join Crusader Security when you can live life the way you want it! Come join the Grim Hex Security Squad!

>>158356254
that's what target pips are for. doesnt need to be effective at absolute max range but you can still get some hits

HALVING all flight speeds is absolutely rediculous though. i wish i could see how it looks not going a reasonable max speed across ~15km areas

>>158355751
I sure hope November. Want me a Carrie* too

>>158357851
My little pirate~

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>E:D info removed from the OP
>no CMDRs around to even notice let alone complain

i-is it time to call it? we made it 80 threads together ;_;

Man, I just realized that with SC's local grids we could actually have something like a walking city from various fantasy settings

>>158361635
That Crusader planet could have some kind of moving platforms

>inb4 nice fantasy here's what's going to happen

>>158361635
>the fourth landing zone on Earth won't be a floating island that drifts all around the globe
CIG fix this

>>158361635
you're thinking the Valenwood walking tree cities aren't you, too bad ESO's on the shitty hero engine

>>158361730
this could actually happen though, the platforms on Crusader shifting around with the winds, or even centripetal-gravity stations where there's a spinning ring, the outside of which is 'down' all the way around. that might sound like a lot more work, but they've already done it with their planetary grids that are spherical

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>>158361529
I'm ashamed but not surprised that I dididn't notice.
>>158351739
>Elite: Dangerous information:
http://pastebin.com/ZT9GWmaC

>Gamescom info:
https://community.elitedangerous.com/eventseason16
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/bilderstrecke/bilderstrecke_3298445.html?back=3298273
http://www.gamestar.hu/gamescom/elite-dangerous-horizons-2-2-guardians-update-gamescom-2016-frissites-ujdonsagok-215519.html
>Latest videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/FrontierDevelopments/videos

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This ship needs a fucking nerf in the Public Universe.

>>158361529
o7

>>158361529
Even the SC side is on life support so ED should probably stop until an update

>>158363218
Isn't the ED update supposed to land within 24 hours?

>The team is currently hard at work on what you'd expect, and we're also getting ready for our November livestream. This time around, the stream is going to be heavily focused on ships (with some other fun stuff included); get hyped to hear about how some of your favorites are coming along!

>heavily focused on ships
>not Squadron
what the fuck Chris

>>158363567
lol they don't have shit m8

>>158363218
agreed, people are going to keep making the threads so people can fill it with 750 shitposts arguing over things that either arent ingame, or their opinions and speculations about what the game will be.

only thing to discuss is things coming out of developer's mouths on thursdays n fridays

>>158363567
Chris doesn't want to show that stuff until it's nearly ready if not completely ready for a mission or two. Gotta get the ships and other small stuff done before showing things heavily involving ships.

Honestly I don't expect to see anything for at least half a year. I don't even expect the game to release until at least three more years at that.

>>158363567
november is going to be a "we havent forgotten about all those ships you havent seen shit about for 6 months guys, here's some sick advertisements and around the verse rehash videos to celebrate"

Unless they miraculously PTU the FUCK out of 2.6 in 3 weeks it's definitely not going live then. far as we know, the first evocati are still trying to unfuck very basic flight model stuff and havent even touched star marine

>>158351739
what the fuck?

where is /edg/? You fucking shitposter

this general is /SCG/EDG/ not /scg/, don't think you and the discord shitposterinos can force a divide this easily.

>>158364051
Those advertisements are cool and all but I feel the resources spent on them are better used in actually completing the game before we all die of old age

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>>158365038
There has been a....

change in management

>>158365038
>/scg/ Star Citizen General #8

Where do you see Elite in that?

We could end you at any time, and there's nothing you can do. Stop acting so entitled or like you have any power in this thread.

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>>158363803
>citizencon supposed to have a heavy sq42 presence
>"nearly" done, but gets scrapped last minute because too many bugs
>still not ready a month and a half later

ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRsF6_lwLas

>>158365235
81*

You can't keep clinging to us forever. Time to leave the nest.

REAL THREAD
>REAL THREAD

>>158365430
>>158365430
>>158365430

>>158365460
How about let's stay here, and fuck off trying to create duplicate threads.

>>158365460
downvoted

>>158365693
>>158365742
>2 shitposters deciding whether we destroy the thread bit by bit

Fuck you, this general is /scg/edg/ and you can't change that, cunts.

>>158365856
you are right. i cant because it is already done

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>>158365856

>first and only post is derek

it never stood a chance

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>>158365856
If only someone had warned you that /scg/ wouldn't tolerate you suckling on its tit rent-free forever. Oh wait I did.

You can still come back, but only if you give us your young for their milk and meat, and end your refugee posts with a heartfelt, 'Heil Roberts'.

>>158365460
hope you get banned <3

Isn't the 2.2 update for E:D today? There's supposed to be an AMA with Braben or something right now

>>158366086
I don't even play E:D but I want to preserve the integrity of these threads.

How can you call it #81 if this is the first /scg/?

Also, for generals #0-20 it was almost entirely E:D because there was fuck all to do in SC. So you can't complain about tit-suckling because the Citizens were only tagging along with the other group.

>>158365856
/edg/ is gone. You're in denial, but that's the first step towards acceptance.

>>158366145
And at one point, the Roman Empire was the strongest military power in the world. That was then, and this is now.

You better start writing your apology letter ending with "Heil Roberts."

>>158366145
Yeah, and when the E:D fags were on top they made us let them step on our balls with their high heels. Why should it be different now that the tables are turned?

>>158366465
>Why should it be different now that the tables are turned?

Because we are stronger together, and the games are sister games like crusader kings is to europa universalis.

>>158366583
>stronger together
Hitleryfag detected
>crusader kings is to europa universalis
/gsg/fag detected
>/gsg/er fan of Hillary
does not compute, you have to go back
>>>/reddit/

>>158366583
This their is no reason to split the threads no or in the near future. Also these threads can be pretty slow in the off hours and having combined threads keep them alive.

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>>158366874
>hitleryfag
/pol/ please stop

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>>158366997
>wants a crazy bitch who'll start a war with Russia
>I'm the /pol/ fascist here
ok

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>>158367089
but I'm writing in jimmy mcmillan

>>158366583
>>158366908
It's a beautiful relationship.
SCG is disappointed that the game isn't out yet
EDG is disappointed in the game that has come out

>>158366428
>in the world

2.6 when?

>3.0 this year

lmao

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>>158368406

November 18th for 2.6, Jan-Feb for 3.0.

You're welcome.

>>158368406
>2.6 this year

lmao

>>158368970
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>>158368406
looks like you're in the wrong thread

>>158365430
>>158365430
>>158365430

>>158369530
I'm here to talk about star citizen

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>>158366130
Yep, he's giving some great info

>>158369795

>not taking the opportunity to just post the picture and ask what did he mean by this

One job.

>>158369795
I honestly doubt that Braben has any real understanding of what actually goes on in the game.

>>158369795
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>>158369897
>talking about elite: dangerous in a star citizen only thread

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>>158370137
One shitposter can't demerge the threads :^)

The SCG/EDG general is not going anywhere

>>158370216

Please don't post knife ear shits in the Star Citizen thread.

just kill /scg/ and /edg/

not a single thing of value would be lost

>>158370559

One is a mercy killing. The other is an abortion.

This game still exists? I thought it was vaporware. They've had like 70million dollars and 3 years, did everything come together glitch free?

How's the PU?

>>158370731
You can discuss this with likeminded individuals in
>>158365430

Shitposters are trying to separate /scg/ and /edg/ just as E:D will spring back to life. One active thread is better than 2 shitty threads considering both are about unfinished games.

>>158370559
literal best post

>>158370731

It does. It is. And no. They now have 130 million dollars and 4 years! The PU is just kinda one system so people can buy more jpegs thinking something will come of it.

>>158368406

Do the Evoctii even have 2.6 yet? I have not really paid any attention

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>>158358319
>the game is putting the dot on the other dot and clicking

>>158371421

>hating realistic gameplay

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>>158371493

>manned starfighters
>realistic

(you)

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>>158371493
>SC
>""""""realistic""""""

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>>158371493
>sounds in space
>realistic

>>158371576

Manned ships firing lasers can be a thing. The Hornet and Saber are fucking retarded though. Nothing smaller than a Freelancer with long range lasers. Drones would be nice instead of turrets.

>>158371694

I thought it was simulated sound in universe as an additional sensory input. Not that there is actual soundwaves from the pew pew.

>>158365430
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>>158365430
Real thread

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ITS HAPPENING LADDIES

>>158372103
>E:D
Wrong thread
post here >>158365430 >>158365430 >>158365430

>>158372183

Someone fucked up and made a /scg/edg/ thread. Now you have mostly /scg/fags posting in a /edg/ thread.

Anybody know if the Saber or SH is going to come out on top in 2.6? Any whispers from the avocados?

Does anyone know if any ships or rewards gets unlocked in multiplayer by completing squadron 42

>>158373269

I have not really seen anything lately but I also have not been looking at Squadron 42 stuff. I think you are suppose to get citizenship or something if you complete it. But I really have no idea now a days since so much has changed.

>>158373269
>Posting in the wrong thread
>>158365430
>>158365430
>>158365430

We do not want a schism between E:D and SC. Neither should you.

>>158373007

assuming they keep speeds low as FUCK right now, it's going to be the SH and Vanguard crushing cunts effortlessly

>>158373367

Fuck off.

>>158373398

As it should be.

>>158373495

terrible post

>>158373593

>best military fighters in the game
>not suppose to cunt punt everyone who is not them or a bigger ship

>>158373736

terrible, awful post

SH isn't military and the vanguard weakness used to be speed which us pointless now because everything is slowed to a crawl

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>make a comment how every small ship should be able to race in the murray cup
>get told to fr*ck off because my hornet makes them cry in arena commander

>these same people constantly whining that their avenger and gladius can't beat hornets and sabres
All out of hecks to give.

>>158373894

>SH isn't military

Oh I am laffin.

It is the closest thing to military spec in a civilian ship in the game.

> vanguard weakness used to be speed

Can't they just make the vanguard even slower then?

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>>158373894
>SH isn't military
It's an upgrade of a variant of a military ship.

Buy a SH with UEC at launch or with REC now. Stop whining.

No, your less-armored, less-armed, cheaper, light, and faster light fighter isn't supposed to be able to alpha strike a Super Hornet. No.

>>158374004

I love it when people want to horse race and I bring a horse and they bring two coconuts.

>>158373904

neither the avenger or gladius are racers retard

>>158373968

It's not a military ship no matter how much you wish it is

and I'd rather they just make the gaps in performance proportional to the gaps in firepower when it comes to light/med/heavy fighters

>>158374150
You mad?

>hornetnigger power hour on /scg/

Now this thread really IS unsalvageable.

>>158374229
That's why we should go back to
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>>158374229

>>158374192

not an argument

>>158374150

>It's not a military ship no matter how much you wish it is

Alright. Should a Hornet F7A be able to beat everyone in a 1v1 when it comes to fighters?

>>158374279

>go back
>10/25/16(Tue)00:14:40
>10/25/16(Tue)04:48:58

Fuck off.

>>158374389
Go back to a /scg/edg/ thread I mean, not in terms of time. Fuck off.

>>158374426

>Fuck off.

You came into this thread starting shit.

>>158374229
>hornetnigger
Translation: I spent less money than people who have a Super Hornet pledge, and I think that my $40-90 ship which is easier to (re)produce, is cheaper, lighter, faster, according to lore, should be able to beat military-grade heavy fighters that use 5-6 gimbal weapons.

Not a lot I can do for you, sorry.

>>158374389

should effortlessly crush lesser Hornet variants, yes

The problem is the speed gap between fighters is too small but the firepower ratios are humongous

>>158374551

>should effortlessly crush lesser Hornet variants

Well if they can't defeat everything why is the Military using Hornet F7As?

>>158374480

>I paid more therefore I should win

Nice to see you're embracing p2w nicely anon, I'm sure Chris is very happy.

>>158374574

in a straight up slog match a hornet should win, the issue is even in pu combat that we have right now the speed differences often aren't enough, and 2.6 is going to exacerbate the issue of firepower overriding everything else

do you get what I'm saying? I'm being as plain as I can be

>>158374778

If speed were the defining factor the Military would use the fastest ship and try and give it as many guns as humanly possible. Firepower is apparently the deciding factor in Star Citizen so they chose some of the hardest hitting and best armored ships. Which is the Hornet.

>>158374639
>I paid more therefore I should win
No
I paid more, therefore I should have more firepower.

To quote the RSI posters that often post in here... "How do you win at Star Citizen?"

Having more firepower, and winning, are 2 different things. Please ponder this.

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>>158374279

>>158374902

What is the difference in a dogfight?

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>>158374229
Did someone say: "salvage"?

>>158375190
Winning in combat isn't guaranteed. But it helps.

If Arena Commander was about hauling the most cargo from A to B, would you be shitposting if you were in a Banu MM and someone in their pooraura was saying that it's not fair that you paid more to win?

Star Citizen isn't about combat, you are whining about PVP regarding ships which are better than others.

If you don't like it, don't play. Or buy a SH with REC. Or upgrade your pledge. Or get a refund.

>>158375241

I can't wait to disable engines and weapons on my Super Hornet™ and then have my friend actively Reclaim the ship with its occupants still inside.

>>158375296

>Or get a refund

Goon detected.

>>158375435

Wrong thread?

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>>158376005
Yes, that's why I deleted the post you fucking inbred.

Don't EVER reply to my mis-posts EVER again

>>158376291

Not showing up as deleted on my side. Sorry senpai.

>>158375435
Wrong thread m80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qpd0W1T3hU

Citcon video

>>158377408

I need to read the OP

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It pleases me the we are finally purging the free riders from this general. They've been getting uppity again lately and talking more shit about SC than they do about their own shitty game. I'm sick of bumping their thread for them and look forward to seeing them keep /edg/ up on their own.

Do you think the endeavor and mods will be sold for the anniversary sale? I kinda wanna make a fleet support ship out of one.

>>158380710

Now your autism is almost as bad as the other guy who made the other thread.

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>>158381295
Why? They shit up the general for literally like a year when we first started it, they periodically shit up the general for weeks at a time during the years we kept it up.

When neither of us could keep our generals up we co-operated and mostly just left each other alone, but now that /scg/ is dominating the thread again, 90% of the posts are about SC and it is DE FACTO /scg/ again they start shitting things up. We never go over to frontier forums or /edg/ and shit all over their game. They always start pissing contests and thread wars, and we don't need them to keep the general bumped anymore.

So fuck em, let em keep their own thread alive >they can. If their games not in the OP we can report them when they jump in and shitpost. How is it autistic to say "These guys actively try to make shitshows out of otherwise amiable conversation, fuck them"?

can someone explain to me how does buying stuff with ingame currency works in star citizen? do you rent weapons ship mounted and regular guns and ships or buy them permanently? I know that there is insurance for ships, which means that if it gets destroyed you don't have to buy it again.
as far as I know devs said that everything will be available for ingame currnecy and nothing will be exclusive for microtransactions.

>>158383761
You have to buy them with cash in the shop for them to be permanent. Even though we're in alpha and stats change all the time, and only a fraction of weapons are in the shop to keep the cash coming in for them.

In fact, their whole webstore is a joke.

If you don't want to use cash you rent them for 7x 24hour periods, using REC.

The currency in the alpha PU is called aUEC.

The currency at launch will be UEC.

The weapons you buy with UEC will get blown up and need to be insured or replaced.

Can you put fixed weapons on a hornet's wings and still have them fire straight ahead? they're at such an odd angle

or do the wings slide forward like the sabre

>>158383992
Yes, you can put size 3 weapons on the wings, or use a gimbal to have size 2.

Yes, they point in stupid directions and don't work half the time.

When you press N to leave landing mode, the wings sweep forward.

>>158383932
So after launch, it will be impossible to buy ship permanently with ingame currency and you will have to rent them? Same goes for weapons I guess?
Pretty shit, I never liked this rent system in online games, I mean it's good for trying out a stuff or when you're too poor to but it right now, but there should be option to buy it permanently.

>>158384246
I don't know about buying ships permanently, but you buy them with in-game currency, and insure them with in-game currency.

When it comes to "buying the game", I think they will just sell a basic pledge package in the box, allowing you to pick either the Mustang or Aurora on the character creation or something like that. Then from there you just buy ships normally in-game like everyone else will.

Let this thread die, there was an error in OP
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>>158384419
I tried looking on offical forum but it's a little messed up, as I understand after launch they will make UEC available and you will be able to buy "real" stuff for it permanently still need insurance in case you get rekt and you will be also able to rent stuff for simualtors
so, renting for simulators and buying permanently for "real" things

>>158384801
>as I understand after launch they will make UEC available and you will be able to buy "real" stuff for it permanently
LTI is only available with sales, though. I don't really have the exact details about how it will work yet. But if you want LTI or perma weapons, buy them from the cash shop.

>>158385139
yeah, what I mean is that you can buy ship permanently, but you will still need to buy insurance for it so you don't lose it when it gets destroyed

>>158384482
Fuck off, retard.

This thread is way better than the other one, also the ESL retard who puts "random things" in quotes and rambles about nothing all day got lured over there, hopefully he'll stay go

>>158371576
>>158371597
>>158371694
>limited weapon range
>in space
>realistic

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>>158386858
Hopefully, that guy is fucking obnoxious. I try to explain shit to him but he fucking decides what he wants to believe and then works backwards from there, cherry picking mis-statements and then accusing me of doing what he does.

Obvious newfags who ask questions and then argue when the answer isn't what they want/disagrees with their headcanon are the worst.

>>158389343
What are the top 3 ships?

>>158392132

Retribution Super Dreadnought

Bengal Carrier

Pegasus Support Carrier