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1st for Sand Nomad cloth is made from Sandworm leather, offering protection from heat as well as laser weaponry.

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20-30million UEC to buy a Polaris in-game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcUmA4wcuno&feature=youtu.be&t=37m [Embed]

"No grind" - Chris Roberts, 2012.
"Not pay2win" - Chris Roberts, 2012.
"LTI is insignificant" - Unknown

>but he isnt in charge of the economy, i'm sure it will be more like 10,000 UEC to buy a polaris!

>>158107383
>capital class ship
>surprised it costs millions

>>158107383
Trusting a random event manager is worse than trusting Ben.
Also this >>158107416

>>158107383
This is great, you can only buy 125,000~ UEC at a time so that means people who buy UEC post-release will be severely limited. This is fantastic.

>>158107416
>$1 = 1000 UEC
>$750 ship should cost 750,000 UEC
>costs 30million
>hurrr being surprised it costs millions
OK, stop posting now.

>>158107383
Pff, that's only 30 000 satellites to repair. Easy.

>>158107525
>30 000 satellites to repair
"No grind" - Chris Roberts

>>158107507
Are you retarded?

We don't even know how the economy will be.

Pledge Costs =/= In-game costs you bumblefuck.

>>158107579
>"No grind" - Chris Roberts
What some of niggers believed that ?

>>158107634
>Are you retarded?
I'm not the one shilling for this game. Look at your own life first, kid.

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>>158107507
>he thinks ship prices area direct UEC translation to USD 1000UEC/1USD
>he isn't aware /every/ ship price will be much more than the ship's USD price to UEC.

Anon, it's time for you to stop posting. You're embarrasing yourself, it's not news that ships ingame cost will be much more. Picrelated for all interested.

should have let it die

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>>158107708
Woopsey! Wrong image. Here's the last datamined XML price data.

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"If the Constellation = 60 hours it means it would take 4166 hours to earn the Polaris, 1388 days (3 hrs p/night) or 3.8 years...."

"Well, Polaris' are going to be goals for orgs so it should be impossible for a solo player to earn one"

Leddit/starcitizen

$30,000 ship
$750 in the LTI sale
1/40th of its in-game value

>just buy them in game, you don't need the LTI concept sale

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>>158107579
>2016
>mmo
>no grind

Buy a polaris now for $750 (current 750 000 uec)
Game release in 2024
Ingame value is 30 mil uec
Sell for maximum profit?

>>158107683
>of niggers
of you Googles*

>>158107708
Your picture is stupid. Americans don't pay VAT.

A £10 UEC gift card costs more than £10.

How can an American buy 1000 UEC for $1 but a British person can buy 1500 for £1?

Please stop posting.

>>158107943
>I posted it on reddit and it didn't get any traction :(
>better post it in /scg XD

So you want to see Militarys ships running around after how long, 250 hours? It's literally a org mission to afford and run a Capital ship (which the Polaris is).

4166 divided by Polaris crew number of 24 = 173 hours work each to afford a Polaris for their crew. I see nothing wrong with this, it's meant to be a dificult expense.

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Nth for Career Garboligist.

>>158107842
$1000 for a 350R...

Wow, such cheap.

>>158107976
Depreciation of 90%.

>>158108142
>I posted it on reddit and it didn't get any traction :(
No, I posted their cult conversation here. Sorry to burst your bubble.

>>158107943
>Constellation = 60 hours
$275 for conny in store. 60 hours in game. 275.000 UEC in PU, 275k/60=4,5k uec/hour~ 5k uec/hour. 5 commlink missions in hour, 12min for each. But now in aPU this misions completed in 3-4min, so 60 connie hours/4 = 15 hours of gameplay. Not bad at all.

>>158108276
Thanks the for bumps, it helped getting the thread started.


>>158108175
Is the Reclaimer a Garboligist chapel, church, or Cathedral?

>>158108321
Well...that's easier than a Fed Corvette I reckon.

>>158108321

30million / 750,000
=40

275,000 * 40
=11million

11million / 60hours
= earning 183,333 uec/hour

>>158108142
>you want to see Militarys ships running around after how long, 250 hours?

Are you so emotional at seeing this game criticized that you conveniently block out of your mind the fact that literally millions of military space ships have been bought in LTI sales over the last 4 years and will be flying around at day 1?

Please, compose yourself, stop posting. Come back later.

>>158108381
Garbology is not a religion, it is a science. You aren't just out there picking up random trash in bulk, you have to find that sweet haul that you can drag around the galaxy until the one day you meet someone who is looking for 1,000,000 vintage bottles of Skywalker Brüe. (Slightly used condition.)

>>158108419
>earning 183,333 uec/hour
Carrak, Hull D-E, BMM and other $250+ ships can earn that money/hour, i guess.

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>>158108526
>literally millions
>pic related
We know the total number of Javelins and Idris sold +/- 100 (wiggle for given and sold), and the Polaris is the only one sold openly and is in the 11k numbers max and that's pushing it.

if you're an org who can afford to run a Polaris you're going to spend even longer outfitting it with components and torpedos when it gets wrecked even if you buy insurance for it, calculating how long it takes to get one doesn't seem to have a point to me for me

>>158108574
>1,000,000 vintage bottles of Skywalker Brüe
Is it a joke on the 2000 Diamant Bleu of Heidsieck & Co that sank with the ship that were delivering them to the Imperial family of Russia during WWI, and that were salvaged years later ?

>>158108759
I mean, for now, when we don't even know how will it work

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>>158108795
Part of Garbology is knowing what is truly garbage and what has value. Skywalker Brüe, for example, was taken off the market a few years after it was manufactured due to the deleterious effects of (admittedly habit forming) conspicuous consumption, including but not limited to: diabetes, liver failure, pancreatic cancer, glowing genitals, and radiation sickness due to the unstable bond on the 4th and 5th electron quadrings.
A Garbologist worth his salt knows that not only is it a rare vintage of beverage it is also a low to mid-grade fuel for fusion reactors.

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>>158109075
Garbology is just a cheap knockoff Jawaism. You idiots pick up small components and cargo on the basis of "This might be worth something to someone, guys" when you can just grab and sell everything. A part valuable and you've got a buyer? Sell it! You've made money. Then you can sell the rest of the scrap too and make even more MAXIMUM PROFIT!

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>>158109534
>tfw no sail barge to fly around the Leir deserts and feed people off a plank to the desert worms

CIG MAKE IT NOW and skifts too

>>158109534
Barbarians. Barbarians all! Anyone can run a bulldozer into a pile of scrap metal and dump it into a smelter. I'm talking about dignity! I'm talking reclaimation of the worthy! I'm talking the salvage of civilization!

>>158108795
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidsieck_%26_Co
Link to the story

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>>158110060
Civilization? Heh! History? Heh! A salvager craves not these things. You are not profitable!

>>158090646

This is why I basically dropped ED. Frontier's decisions and their "listening" only to the shitty part of the community is intolerable. I have no interest in playing a game that not only doesn't respect my time, but spits in my face regarding it.

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>>158110275
That's what differentiates a mere scavenger and a Garbogist. I do care, I do seek those things...and my time and knowledge are worth a tidy sum to those in the know and seeking that rare, special thing.

What the fuck is this Garbage-autism meme?

>>158110461
A Garbologist is merely an unprofitable Salvager; A BAD SALVAGER. You're better off with a Merchantman and just admit you're only a trader.

>>158110461
>>158108175
Why does this guy have an asshole on his forehead?

>>158110767
It's to give everyone a heads up beofre they try to talk to them.

>>158110614
If I wanted a life of sub-charts, tabletures, and mass to fuel consumption ratio records like some common plebian I could have it. But how boring and tedious that would be. Garbology is adventure.

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>>158110767
>>158110796
>Not watching Farscape.

>>158110965
Garbologists are not scavengers. They are not Salvagers. They are unprofitable crews that are one bad day away from becoming the salvage to a true salvager.

>decide to get Star Citizen's free fly thing
>opens up a command window with ascii art after the launcher.

Ok, that's pretty cute. You got me there.

Now to wait half a day to see if my aussie internet to download it to see if my 970m can even run it.

>>158111065
Into the trash with Lexx it goes.

>>158111156
970 can but you really need a desktop

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>>158111065
i tried to get into that show when i needed more space after finishing all the star treks for the 50th fucking time and i couldn't get over the "Syfy" original series cheap feel it had everything felt kinda weird.

>>158111156
>my aussie internet to download it
It might be faster to have an anon mail you a flash drive with the files.

>>158111078
Scavengers are vultures. They destroy treasures and history for a handful of credits having no idea the value of what they're looking at. No idea that, because they turned the hull plating of a Polaris into a glorified puncture repair kit they overlooked and jetisoned the crate of Zinitan cruxiform candellabras stored in the head. Those babies are worth thousands to Zinitan pilgrims looking to bring a worthy gift to the Great Hrud.

>>158111357
Ahhh ya gotta give it another chance. Jim Henson puppetry, batshit storylines, fun characters, and a really, really good collection or recurring antagonists. It ain't Trek by any means. It is space fantasy...and I really don't think it's any cheaper looking than Trek just different. More organic and lived in. The people making the show really loved it.

Great alien space babes too.

>>158112058
A Salvager knows the value of what they're salvaging and always know where they can sell it, we take everything else of value including stripping the hull for metal. Anything in a cargo box is valuable and can be sold: That's a rule of thumb.

>>158112297
If that holds true then you, my friend, are a Garbologist. Just a rather...ambitious one. Getting the thing to the person that wants it is one of the core advantages of a career in Garbology. I just don't understand why so many misconstrue a love of history and methodical study in derelicts, laggen, and salvage into some sort of quasi religion. I have a degree, damnit!

>>158112687
Your are mistaken. Garbologists turn their noses up at the less valuable items and only take the most expensive; True Jawaists take everything and sell everything. Cargo and the ship crew's belongings, then components, then the hull plating, then the remaining parts of the vessell are Reclaimer feed. Nothing is left, everything is sold, MAXIMUM PROFIT is gained.

>>158113014
Filthy Jawas. May the shifting sands swallow them all. Let the ferro-fibrous shards of a broken hulk worm into their blood and into their black hearts.

twitch tv/citcon
German fan event today, they'll be livestreaming a QA with Brian Chambers in ~1,5 hours.

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In all seriousness I hope SC is as feature rich as they promise. I need another game to play with my Saitek. I'll get in on it even if the Grand Dream doesn't quite reach the architecture Chris had in mind.

boom bye bye inna botty bwoy head

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Guess the FPS


it's not high

>>158118658
1

>starting up ED crashed VLC
this is like the worst possible thing that could happen

anyone else watching this german citcon stream?

>>158120218
Why is it the worst possible thing?

>>158120256
Does Brian Chambers talk in german?
Other than that I've got enough SC fan cringe online don't need it with real people too

>>158120517
I take it you never played ED

>>158121796
What does VLC have to do with anything? Are you trying to play custom music?

>>158120218
>>158121796
I only had it freeze on exit. I run it windowed now and it's perfectly fine.

>>158120817
they are all speaking in english and answering questions.

Redpill me on the Redeemer, /scg/

Can the design ever be redeemed?

>>158122641

Not without a massive RSI forum shitstorm.

>>158121913
>custom music
what did he mean by this?

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>>158122918
kys

>>158120218
that's fdev telling you to use a non-shit media player

>>158122641
maybe they can use the "modular engines" concept that was briefly mentioned to justify adding better looking engines for the ship while leaving the hair curlers around as an option for the idiots?

>>158108667
spotted a carrackfag

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>>158113014
You are being sloppy, you should be recycling cadavers and their soul as well.

So, we won't see 4.0 for another year, even in a best case scenario from CIG.

At that point, we'll theoretically have all gameplay mechanics in, but it doesn't sound like we'll even have all ships, a significant percentage of the final 100 systems, or anything close to a completed PU.

So, what, late 2018 at the earliest? Are they even still gonna have funds by then?

>>158128732
Only fresh cadavers have valuable spare organ parts.

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>>158131687
<Occupied Escape Pod>
Not for long.

>>158108132
He's obviously some kind of idiot who thinks GBP is a strong currency or something

God I hate those idiots, it's like they checked the store page of the site, as if that's necessary

>>158107383
The reddit thread got immediately frozen despite all the replies

ded gem ded thred

need some new stuff, CIG is slow

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>he bought a retaliator

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Who owns the camper van here?

>>158136265
begone anime poster

#RehabilitateTheRetaliator

>>158136592
Maybe if we didn't move like epileptic pigeons

>>158110767
>guy

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Idiot Vanduboos...

>>158136265
And he doesn't regret it, he does hope they improve it a bit, but even if they don't stats and supremacy are not in fact everything, particularly in a game with no defined win conditions and vast unoccupied spaces.

The games not entirely about combat after all.

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>>158136592
I wonder if I could jerry rig a bed into the torpedo bay? I am half German.

>>158137839
>I am half German.

"muh heritage" American detected

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>tfw vanduul ships are ridiculously expensive

>>158138008
>Be euro
>Be unable to detect levity.
Half my people are from County Cork in Ireland, the other Half from Wurttemberg. Being aware and proud of your heritage is nothing to be ashamed you goddamn self hating nu-male and/or Syrian.

>>158138367
you are just an amerifat, SHART IN MART

>muhhh heritage
>WE WUZ GERMUNS AND WORLDSTAR

>>158138287
What a funny and original joke

>>158138710
>posted from my cuckshed

You probably have more afro in you than I do Hans, but still not as much as your Fraulein has in her.

>>158138367
I'm proud of my heritage we just don't bring it up constantly out of insecurity.
We don't need to tell everyone where we're from because everyone fucking knows.

>>158139503
>beeing that triggered

top kek

>>158142326
this

>I don't disagree with ether of you, but what bugs me most is when playing in the PU if I come a cross a Vanduul fighter instead of being all "Oh CRAP, a Duul!", I'm going to be thinking, "hmf, just another player with deep pockets". No fear, no excitement.

Are you ready to fight the Duul in your Rack?

Any evocati?

How's the Avenger and Gladius handling?

How do I NOT think about star citizen or feel the need to spend all my spare moments searching for that sweet shred of juicy information about the game i dont know already

ATV/RTV has been the most important part of my week for months now i cant control myself but i just want to stop til 3.0 is out

>>158143996
You must spread the gospel to the non believers

people still bitching about supercruise?

>>158108667

You really think the Rack can make that much UEC per hour?

>>158145484
He probably thinks it will earn more than the Crucible and Reclaimer

>>158143996
>but i just want to stop til 3.0 is out
>he thinks the ride stops at 3.0
Oh my sweet summer child...

>>158143996
This is a real issue for me. This development model whatever is super cool but it's also the worst.

>>158145959

Then the Carrack really is the meme ship.

>>158143872
Avenger handles a bit worse than on live and is slow as fuck besides afterburner. Gladius is handling better than on live, but so is the hornet, also is slow as fuck

Frankly I think the gladius will be in even worse shape balance wise vs the hornet and sabre than it is now.

>>158107265
>fully covered face, neck, etc, no skin exposed anywhere
>no gloves at all

>>158148096

Sounds shitty, and I don't imagine it will be fixed because of sabreshits and hornetniggers needing to be top dog at all times.

My disappointment is already rising.

>>158148096

>Avenger handles a bit worse than on live and is slow as fuck besides afterburner. Gladius is handling better than on live, but so is the hornet, also is slow as fuck

Im really starting to convince myself that CIG has no idea what the fuck balance is. They need to pretend that the ship prices dont exist, and learn to tell backers to fuck off. CIG is just fucking spinning their wheels.

Why the fuck did I back this fucking game? There's like 5 people including Chris that know what they're doing, and the rest are just cheap retarded employees who have no idea what they are doing. Fuck crowdfunding. I'm so fucking stupid for putting in nearly 200 in this game.

>>158148358

>I don't imagine it will be fixed because of sabreshits and hornetniggers needing to be top dog at all times.

This is why I fucking hate this community of backers. It's because of shit like this that CIG takes 400% longer than they should for developing the game.

>>158148358
>sabreshits and hornetniggers needing to be top dog at all times

So what you're saying is, you're dissatisfied that the 2 ships meant for combat superiority out-perform poorly-armed $40 starter ships, roleplay police vans and multirole ships, in combat?

Are you going to raise this issue in the forums?

>>158148714

>gladius
>multirole

neck yourself cunt

>>158138367
>Half my people are from County Cork in Ireland
me too! what are the odds

>>158148538
>They need to pretend that the ship prices dont exist

The game has never had any indication of being balanced that way

It's like saying a zergling can't beat an ultralisk so it's pointless

>>158148889
I'm not familiar with the verb "neck" except for meaning to drink, can you please elaborate?

Gladius is a light fighter, it isn't supposed to be equal in combat. It's supposed to be launched from escort carrier groups to intercept bombers and targets smaller than capital ships.

>>158137839
what's this sexy beast?

>>158148538
>i bought a stupid penguin ship avenger because i want to roleplay as a police officer and arrest people

>wahh why do i get killed by military-tier fighters?

Just leave it to the professionals and stop whining. Just buy the combat ships in-game with UEC and stop complaining.

Also get gud.

>>158149141

It's a fighter that can only dogfight and has no other role

meanwhile the hornet can slap a cargo box on itself and still outgun the gladius handily

not to mention the sabre heavily outguns it and goes barely slower

maybe if it had overwhelming performance advantages could I overlook the underwhelming armament, but that isn't the fucking case and never will be because shitcunts who spent 170+ dollars on sabres and SH think everyone else should just be cannon fodder

>>158149206
It's Gladiator-chans lewd backside.

>>158149695
>It's a fighter that can only dogfight and has no other role
A light fighter. It's supposed to engage targets at short range. The fighter you'll find flying above an Idris on a patrol escort. It's not supposed to solo enemy fleets.

Why are you complaining about being sub-optimal in a combat role when you saw the stats page and probably got to test the Gladius first hand, and knew that it wasn't as armed as the Super Hornet?

The Gladius is a nice-looking ship but it's not designed to be a heavy fighter. It's nimble and able to chip away hitpoints gradually.

>>158137839
An older Comm-link mentions Gladiators are sometimes refitted for salvage work by civilian owners, so maybe. That article was like 3 years ago, though.

>>158147725
i know it's not over at 3.0 but I'll at least have all my drake shipfus and some basic content to use them for while 3.1+ happens.

hopefully theres enough baseline content thru 3.+ to warrant the formation of orgs that arent just 10,000 member youtuber/streamer bait

Any german anons go to the citcon event? Apparently they had some special presentation no one is able to talk about.

>>158149695
>the hornet can slap a cargo box on itself and still outgun the gladius handily
By how much?

The cargo box is garbage. Are you seriously suggesting anyone remotely interested in trading is going to use a Hornet? Once the have enough credits they'll just get a Hull A and then work up to a Hull E. The box is just a gimmick, surely?

I know what you're saying, but if you're a skilled pilot can't you blow up other ships in your Gladius? I don't own one but I like them, they are smaller and more nimble.

Also, should CIG just make every combat ship in the game have the same weapons and same DPS? Then refund the difference anyone who bought more expensive ships than the Aurora, like the Saber?

What is your solution?

>>158149936

since you can't read or are just being willfully obtuse

>maybe if it had overwhelming performance advantages

currently it doesn't which it should considering the extremely large gap in firepower, nor will it ever because of retards like you

>>158148096
how are they orchestrating these flight changes? do you feel like theyre balancing everything around a certain ship or are they just making flat global changes across the board?

i'd have thought they'd just adjust everything by a % across the board then finetune from there

>>158150404

I want them to make the gladius performance actually worth the tradeoff in firepower (its speed and agility)

right now it doesn't, and next patch it's looking to be even worse

>>158150314
>not on youtube
>stream not saved as video playback

WHAT ARE YOU HIDING FROM US I MUST KNOW

>>158150410
>currently it doesn't
Good.

>which it should
Nope. It's a cheaper light fighter for interception and escorts.

>considering the extremely large gap in firepower
I feel like you're overstating the difference.

You can just buy a SH and Sabre in the game with UEC, and treat the Gladius as your starter ship. Or upgrade it and stop worrying.

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>slap the free SH turret onto my ghost
>mount 5 Strife mass drivers
>mfw deleting people at 6km

>>158150741

>90 USD
>starter ship

good idea anon, everyone should just run only 2 ships that are better by almost every metric

truly a shining example of horizontal progression

>>158151167
Your ship is faster, cheaper and more nimble.

But you want it to be even better.

If you want fighter superiority, buy the better ships.

Are you going to stick with your Gladius as your only ship? Upgrade it or enjoy it as it is.

>>158149794
thanks senpai

>>158149318

You might be retarded. Seriously. Nowhere in my post did I say I have any military ships, or an Avenger.

Go read some books, Anon. Might help your reading comprehension.

>>158149102

>The game has never had any indication of being balanced that way

I really cant tell if you're trolling, or just incredibly stupid.

>>158152057
explain then?

>>158152325

Star Citizen's development speaks for itself.

It happens.


German Citcon event had Brian chambers doing a q&, he confirmed they're now making the crossbow

>>158153851
T-the SOTA crossbow... Just as the /scg/ ancient threads foretold. Well, this is it

>>158153851
An elegant weapon... for a more civilized age.

>>158143543
>The deemer predates the current Aegis style guide and wasn't made by CIG, is from next great starship competition

WEW I'M GONNA KILL SOMEONE

>>158153851
did he confirm it's going to be a giant log of antitechnology shit like all the early designs?

>>158153851
they should just source one from the kingdom come guys they're already sharing technology with

>>158155481
It'll be the unfucked good version with actual cord and not """"" energy cord"""". Can someone post the good SOTA crossbow art?

>>158143543
>>158155430
literally who are you quoting

>>158155976
literally randoms from RSI or youtube

>>158155792
it's all in the OP mega, however the 'good' one was the first preliminary design, and they all got shittier and shittier from that point.

>>158156130
The good one is the design sofa referenced in the new deal (while referring to old deal)

>>158156838
???

>>158157627
Sorry for english

New deal referenced by s o t a for cutlass , of show no. Electric bow. First google j age result for star citizen sota crossbow

>>158148096
Oh god, if the avenger is slow, I don't even want to think where the Aurora ended up

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>hear a new update for ED is coming out

"oh maybe this will be cool"

>some graphics updates, a handful of QoL changes, new cargo delivery missions, oh and now you can put a smaller crappier ship inside your huge engineered death machine for some reason
>game is still a mess, no updates or fixes to boring-ass core gameplay loops, still nothing to do that feels even remotely like it matters, still no satisfaction to be had from gameplay outside of grinding for a bigger credit balance
>tfw I got my hopes up for ED again

>>158162042
someone should make a better space game

ED potentially could be really great if braben didn't have autism

>>158162716
To be fair, how much blame can we put on Braben for the ship transfer stuff - maybe just for allowing the vote in the first place?

>>158162716
From what I've been reading and some anons have said, it doesn't seem like Braben is the reason behind the game being shit. It's all the people he hired and the incompetent designers doing the work for him.

>>158162716
They need to focus on improving the multiplayer aspects and giving players something to do that feels like it's having a real effect on the game world, like what Powerplay was supposed to be until it turned out to be boring, grindy, convoluted garbage.

They keep listening to their literally insane forum userbase, who constantly votes to keep the game as mediocre and unfun as possible. It's like they don't want the game to be successful, like they know the game isn't good, so they're just doubling down on shittiness.

>>158162874
>still sperging out about ship transfers

fuck off dad

>>158162949
have you played even 5 minutes of frontier? it's totally him, just look how the current update touts accurate magnetic fields as a feature

realistic space stuff is cool, but it's getting in the way of gameplay at some point

>>158162874
Ship transfers being completely worthless is all thanks to Sandro and the faggot dads. Because for some reason to them tedious gameplay and spending 150 hours traveling through black nothing is the best gameplay there is.

>>158163205
It's crazy. I had no idea there were so many 50+ autists who literally hate fun until I started playing ED.

>>158163319
It's the strangest kind of mid life crisis. At least the 50+ people that buy cars get something useful out of their crisis. These people just spend their paycheck's/retirement money on a ship skins and ugly DIY cockpit setups. I saw one asshole that went as far as to make a fucking bathtub setup for ED.

>>158163205
you don't need to travel all the way across the bubble every day you know

fuck off dad, you're the person they talk about when they say the grind is all in your head

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>>158163775
>quotes "the grind is all in your head" argument while calling other people dads

>>158164351
the game has problems, not catering to your self destructive behaviour is not one of them

every fucking time it's ship transfer this, ship transfer that, like it's the only fucking thing you can do in the game is transfer ships 24/7, like it's gonna make trading or mining or whatever more fun, or make pvp better

it's completely fucking irrelevant and the only reason you care is because you're a dad who spends all your time in the game running 200 ly grind routes

>>158161147
is good video, yes?
i am to be of the search of youtube for this

>people think the gladius should be good

It's the fucking tutorial ship for sq42. It was never meant to compete with anything. It even took over the avenger's place in the lore as the old navy fighter that the hornet was purchased to replace.

It was never going to be good and you're retarded if you bought one.

>>158164539
I don't play anymore, m8, I just check in to see if it's still shit every now and then.

But yeah, changing a new QoL feature to make it shittier is stupid, no idea how you can even pretend to argue the other side of that issue with a straight face.

>>158164715
Stop responding to the false flagger calling us dads.

How 2 exit Hornet in space?

"Reduce Velocity to stabilize " while im at 0 velocity and no movement

>>158166584
If you're on legacy controls, CTRL F and you hold it. If you're on new controls, hold F should work.

>>158167146
You're right but it was bugged, had to commit suicide

>>158161152
The aurora hasn't gotten a second pass yet, so it's still at 95 for the MR and 90 for the LN like what the early leak said. I have no idea if that number will go up next pass or not. The connie and freelancer just got boosted to where they're now faster in SCM mode than some of the small fighters, while none of the small ships got a SCM increase. It seems like they clearly want the ships to have a much narrower combat speed range than before, but so far I haven't seen any examples of how they plan on making that the least bit balanced though .

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What weapons should I put on this bad boy?

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>>158168370
panthers for energy, broadswords for ballistic

>>158168370
fixed s3s / broadswords if you like shooting things at rediculous angles without line of sight and denying your turret gunner clean stable shots

otherwise gimballed tarantulas / badgers / APARs. then again I valuesustained DPS over eventually landing a more lethal shot on something. not sure how these fixed gun only memers manage to enjoy the game or kill things efficiently

broadswords or panthers for turret no question

>>158162949

Holy shit, sounds exactly like Star Citizen.

@158170913
Holy shit, sounds exactly like bait.

>>158171049
>@

is this some kind of new (you) denial weapon or are people genuinely bringing twitter and reddit jargon here

>>158171520
(you) denial. People are starting to catch on to shitposters finally.

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What should I kit my SH with? I've been flying around with 5 gimbaled Badgers but it just doesn't seem to so much.

I don't want to go ballistics really. I tried all longswords and it just wasnt my thing. Is there other decent energy based weapons that i can gimbal other than Badgers?

TLDR; What loadouts do people use for SH?

>>158110767
That's not a guy...

>>158172095
any combination of APARs and badgers is outstanding

badgers for literal infinite spam fire, APARs for 1 shotting bits of ships or 1 shotting them entirely with the right shot placement with no downside other than 60 max ammo and low ROF

see
>>158151067

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shipfu

>>158164601

dumbest post I've seen tonight

just kill yourself

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>>158172880
Sorry I'm fairly new to changing loadouts what are "APARs"? Apoc arms?

>>158173467

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/electronic-access/Weapon-Roms/Strife-Mass-Driver

>>158173183
There is some logic behind him. They probably would want the sq42 gladius to be a bit shit so when you finally qualify to fly a hornet, it seems like a massive upgrade instead of just a sidegrade.

>>158170650
>not sure how these fixed gun only memers manage to enjoy the game or kill things efficiently

by flyin gud

>>158174474

ok

the military hornet is just a bit different than some civvie shit with a hornet skin

also saying THIS SHIP WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE SHIT is dumb as fuck and something i'd expect to see on the rsi forums

>>158172880
Sounds like the Glaive but not shit

>>158174474
>>158175115

also its entirely possible to have different combat balance in the pu than a sp game where you're the big bad rookie hero

>>158173183
>>158175115
>Mustang should beat Buccaneer

lelelel

>>158175389
didn't seem to stop them from clearly designing the retaliator for single player payload escort missions instead of PU play.

TWO
POINT
SIX
WHEN

>>158175871

not really comparable

the gladius can be fixed with number adjustments

the current tali design is an engineering clusterfuck on the interior and turret placement

>>158176143
evocati are running thru iterations of like 1/5th of 2.6's content currently, so like 2 weeks before main PTU gets it and we can get some videos at least

mid-late nov

>>158175115
Aurora.

>>158178621
True, but they also added variants that were intended to be non-shit versions of it for people who really liked the Aurora... but then hornet niggers got it nerfed

How do you go faster in the ship? The hornet seems to cap out at 610 Velocity unless I'm doing something wrong which I hope so because I don't even see me reaching the missions at this rate.

>>158180045
You paint the ship red.

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>>158180045

>>158180045
fucking press B

>GAME
THERE IS NO GAME JUST A CRYENGINE MODEL VIEWER BEHHH P2W DEREK SMART >VED >KONG >IMPLYING NOT VAPORWARE MY FRIENDS ON V TOLD ME TH

@158181456

heh, didn't think i'd get to test out this new weapon so soon. you're finished, goon.

>>158181456
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Cryengine, is in fact, a heavily modified version of Cryengine, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Starengine.

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>>158180045

>>158168370
So I think I got my Cutlass bugged maybe, cause I the longswords dont come with ammo anymore.

>>158181771
this is a pretty big issue for any given limited ammo gun atm - if it's the stock ones that came with the turret idk what to tell you

i do know that i've got 6 size 3 gimballs that won't work with any ammo weapon, and i have to go back and forth between arena commander to figure which fucking ones dont work

never take gimballs off of free fly ships or subscriber perk ships, they go to the top of your stack of loose gimballs and youre fucked on using gimballs unless you want to test guns in AC 30 times til you find the one you actually own/rented, i've got a stack of 6 right now i took off this fucking starfarer that effectively made me stop caring about playing til november

>>158182086
Well my longswords are the stock one that I had stock with my Cutlass, I moved them from my turret down onto my wing mounts. If anything i'll just rent Panthers and stick them everywhere or mount Mass Drivers.

>>158182427
yeah, just keep everything where it started i guess. if gimballs arent involved i'm not sure what it is. one of the issues thats making 2.5 unplayable for me

my Gimbal is the primary mount frontal mount on the Cutlass

what space-ship is tha best™

>>158183991
Currently the Aegis Vanguard

>>158183991
The Javelin is the most expensive ship

>>158183991
Remeemer

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>>158183991

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>>158186359

>>158176185
All this is headcanon shit, it doesn't matter if that size torpedo are balanced to be as vital for taking on cap ships as CIG have made it clear they are supposed to be.

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Discussion : Do you think the Javelin destroyer should have a hangar/rover ramp ?

I'm asking that because some people are surprised enough the Polaris ended up as a mini-frigate.
Me I'm not surprised for Capital ship to have a way to carry personnel/cargo (the argo make a lot of sense here), but limiting them to nubs fighter would have been good enough.

So I think CIG wanted to let players have at least one Qjump capable fighter with them.

>>158189197

>rover ramp

it can't land in atmo

>>158189197
for reference :
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14335-Introducing-The-Javelin-Destroyer

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>>158189252
The original concept sure did and you can still see the engine hinge.
It's probably the biggest one that can

>>158189476
>pre-pre-concept art

that pic shows the javelin being polaris sized. sure as hell isnt anything close to the official concept we've had for 2 years or what was in the last demo

>>158172095
>I have the best single fighter ship and it is not enough, where should I pump more USD?!

>>158189476
well now we know how the reclaimer design came to be

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>>158190551
That's not even remotely what I'm implying. Plus you don't need to spend real money on weapons if you are half awake in AC.

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>>158190350
The Javelin still have rotating engines, what do you think this is for ?
It is not even that much bigger than the Idris

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14335-Introducing-The-Javelin-Destroyer

>>158192145
I know Im just salty because my toaster computer is stopping me from joining the forever Alpha madness

>beeing poorfag
;_;

>>158192549
>spending more money than minimum on a $100 million game

>>158192854
what are you trying to say?

>>158192854
Anon, this anon is talking about not being able to afford a powerful PC that can run it, not more ships.

>>158192549
Why did you spend money on an incomplete game if you don't have the rig to run it properly?

>>158193694
>americans

>>158193694
by the time it is complete a rig that can run it properly will be cheap

Hey fellas, does the FALL2016 have the same content as the one you'd get by buying the game?

And what do you guys do in-game most of the time?

What's a good credits value to switch over to the Python for long range hauling missions? I assume I need twice the ship price, similar to everything else?

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>>158192549
>stopping me from joining the forever Alpha madness
Watch wtfosaurus on Twitch. He spawns on Olisar, gets in a ship, travels to Kareah, ejects, lands, goes inside and either gets killed or kills someone else. He'll literally play the same thing over and over again for 3-4 hours.

Even imagining doing that for 3-4 hours is boring enough.

You aren't missing much, stop worrying about it. Until they fix the shitty netcode there's hardly anything fun to experience. You'll get face to face with someone and your FPS will drop to single digits.

The only thing you'll probably want to play is Arena Commander, for getting used to the controls, but just wait while they work on the netcode.

>>158196279
>is the freeflight same as the actual game
Yes
>What do you guys do most of the time?
Fucking about in Crusader, shopping in ArcCorp, and playing a fuckton of Vanduul Swarm

>>158196279
>And what do you guys do in-game most of the time?

Either racing in a poorly-designed course, exploring a mini system in the PU, or Vanduul swarm or the mini PVP arena.

>>158196279
>And what do you guys do in-game most of the time?

alt tab to scg and shitpost about best ship

>>158196625
This, we hardly ever discuss the Reclaimer, though.

>>158196625
Spectrum will make your life easier.

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>>158196625
So what are the best exploration ships? Also, how much would I have to grind to get one if I just wanna pay real monies once, just to get my starter package?

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>>158196774

All priced from lowest to highest cost.
Mustang Beta
315p
Freelancer Dur
Terrapin
Constellation Aquila
Carrack

Honorable mentions (convertable to exploration):
Herald
Hornet Tracker
Gladiator
Constellation Taurus
Constellation Andromeda
Reclaimer (treasure hunter in old-lore but are subpar to the Carrack in the role. )

>>158196941
all of these seem nice and now I got a better idea of how I would like to progress through the game, thanks pal

I may as well do the other ship progression lines too.

Bombers/Missile boats:
Mustang Delta (Light Fighter, 36-50(?) S0/Micro Rockets)
Herald (16x S2(S3?) Missiles, intented for dataspike missiles but can mount any type)
Freelancer MIS Missile Boat (Fighter Screen, 10x s2, 46x S3 (default 26, expandable internal missile rack)
Gladiator Bomber (Bomber, 4x s3, 4x S5("Torpedo")
Constellation Andromeda (28x S1 Missiles, 20x S2 Missiles)
Polaris Corvette (24x S10 Torpedos, 32x S3 Missiles)

>>158198508
>24 S10 torps
>32 S3 missiles
>tons of turrets with S4s
>can carry a fighter

what kind of fuckery

>>158198586
Only 30 million credits, goy. $750 cash...

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>>158198712
>30 million credits
t. event manager

>>158198508
#RehabilitateTheRetaliator

>>158198712
If those stats stay true, there doesn't seem to be a point in owning an Idris when it comes to a combat role. You're potentially able to kill one, are more maneuverable and clearly less expensive to run or outright buy. 2 Polarii (Polarises?) and a sizeable group of fighters, like 12 or so, will be unstoppable.

Can't wait for it to be flight ready in 2018 to not be even close to what they say it is now.

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>>158198508
>>158196941

Cargo:
Aurora ES/LN/MR/LX (25 SCU)
Reliant (30 SCU)
Aurora CL (45 SCU)
Hull-A (48)
Freelancer (51 SCU)
Freelancer MAX (123 SCU)
Hull-B (750 SCU)
Constellation Taurus (236 SCU)
Caterpillar (512 SCU)
Starfarer (4043 SCU)
Banu Merchantman (5017 SCU)
Hull-C (4608 SCU)
Hull-D (20736 SCU)
Hull-E (98304 SCU)

Honorable mentions:
Avenger ( SCU)
Aegis Retaliator (128 SCU, cargo configuration)
Anvil Carrack (1057 SCU)
Reclaimer (6266 ((unsorted in a pile in the back, not for valuable transport)) SCU)

>>158199061
I'm

Light Fighters:
P-52
P-72
Mustang
Aurora LN
Reliant Tana
Avenger
325A
Mustang Delta
Gladius
M50
350R
Khartu-AL
Sabre

Medium Fighters:
Buccaneer
Hornet F7 series
Gladiator
Sabre
Scythe

Heavy Fighters:
Cutlass-Series (I wouldn't consider it a Medium or Light fighter, this seems the best classifcation. Smaller/Budge "Heavy" Fighter)
Freelancer MIS
Vanguard
Redeemer
Stinger

Honorable mentions:
300i/315p
Freelancer
Terrapin
Constellation Andromeda

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>>158199563
Ships designed, (or can be utilized) for Command and Control of individual fighter squads or fleet movement.


C&C:
Hornet F7C-R
Hornet F7C-M
Terrapin
Constellation Andromeda
Constellation Aquila
Constellation Pheonix
890 Jump
Polaris Corvette
Idris Frigate
Javelin Destroyer
Enoch Cruiser
Ares Battlecruiser
Bengal Carrier

>>158199815
Multi-Role noncommittal ships:
Aurora Series(++)
Reliant Series(+)
Avenger Titan(++)
Freelancer Series (+++)
Constellation Series(+++)
Redeemer(++++)
Retaliator(++++)
Caterpillar (++++)
Starfarer(+)
Hull-Series(++++)
Polaris Corvette (+)
Idris-P(++)

What I'd quallify as "Versatile" would be any ships that can fight and carry cargo, or be moddified to other roles

>>158200220
I agree with this. I'd love the addition of more robust EMP weapons, and maybe even a Starfarer-Caterpillar sized Police/Pirate/Militia/Bounty-Hunting ship with a large fixed EMP weapon to fry shields and systems.

https://youtu.be/5BkOVSFb2Zw?t=153

>>158200534
I think that's the plan but I feel like the energy system isn't fleshed out yet

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> Polaris
> Ships designed, (or can be utilized) for Command and Control of individual fighter squads or fleet movement.

This statement make me think that if we don't get some sort of homesteading, defending their "flagship" will represent the bulk of what do Organization even beyond securing a place.

Star Citizen will not be anywhere as big and persistent as MMO like Eve Online, so even if Org will obviously try to conquer and defend a place, the "only" 100 systems plus the instancing mean that the only thing really persistent would be the spaceship themselves.

What do you think ?
Day one, everybody grief that insufferable whale's Idris

>>158201362
>Day one, everybody grief that insufferable whale's Idris

>Day everyday. Still griefing whale's Idris'

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>>158201362
>Star Citizen will not be anywhere as big and persistent as MMO like Eve Online

I feel like this statement is only half true, as the scale in both games is much different. I'd imagine you can pretty safely hide a single fighter in SC on a planet "controlled" by a Organization. If they do let the unclaimed systems be fought over by players, I can imagine a lot of the larger Orgs will actively be patroling their systems and planets which will make smuggling items to those systems pretty interesting, especially if smugglers make little trade depots in the badlands to exchange items illegal in that system.

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>>158200249
>Hull series
>multirole

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>>158202118
You better believe it.

>Their potential load (and modularity) is unparalleled, however: no other ship allows as much room to store goods or to modify towards another role!

>Owing to the ubiquity of the cargo pallet system, many manufacturers have created third party addons capable of taking advantage of the Hull superstructure. These range from additional ship upgrades (shield generators, sensor suites and the like) to ‘stealth’ cargo pods to gimbaled turrets and other weapons which can take the place of some cargo pallets on larger ships (with a corresponding reduction in cargo capacity.) As a result of these “expansion ports,” the Hull series is one of the most modular starships available; many view it as a platform upon which to build as much as the bulk hauler it was designed as.

>With extensive after-market options, the Hull E have been adopted as everything from colonial supply trains to survey equipment platforms to orbital defensive platforms. With space for the largest possible set of container types, the properly equipped Hull E can carry everything from iron ore to passengers to fully functional spacecraft!

>>158201530
I look forward to it. Unfortunately I have a feeling that people that bought Idrises are going to be leaving them docked for a while out of fear of roving bands of pirates immediately grabbing it from them.

>>158202234
I'll believe it when I see it working in the game. The concept sale posts and Q&As are about as trustworthy as Ben.

>>158202347
who do you think writes them?

>>158201362
Well I do hope we get a homestead feature. Or at least some planet surface stations.
Are all Idris sold so far LTI ?
Would be fun to sneak up with a Tali on someone with a not insured Idris flapping his e-peen around

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>>158202118
>replace all cargo boxes with carriages with port holes
>load up a bunch of marines in them
>become a ball of death

>>158201879
Eve Online has thousand of system and gate connecting each of them so an Org can claim a few system and be totally ignored.
But in Star Citizen even with 50 unclaimed systems there will only be a few gate to them (plus the gate's size). If players are anywhere as greedy and competitive as they already are, they'll never be able to settle there for long, even on particular spot of a planet.

And then there's the Instancing that make it possible (out of necessity) to have players at the same place but not in the same instance. If 2 Org can be at the same jump point without seeing each others, I would say that the only reason/mean they'll want to see each other is to blowup the others' Flagship (regardless of the place)

just speculating

>>158202234
I look forward space-fighter hiding in cargo pallet.

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ded

where are all the shitposters?

>>158205676
It's not worth shitposting anymore.

>>158205798
>gamescon was lame
>citizencon was shit

SC dead

>Runs smooth on hangar and the space command wave mode thing.
>Go to the "universe"
>main port, dipping high 20s average.
>Go to a scavange place with 2 other people in the area with pirates spawning
>10 fps

Wew lad.

>>158206345
Look up how to force the universe into offline mode. You'll get 60 fps. Or just hope for an empty server

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Do any sane people own this ship or is it just for fucking around with no real purpose?

hi fellow /edg/elords

so now that sothis/ceos is ded, what are some good ways to make the shekels?

>>158206907
there is a video of an Avenger EMP(probably) who almost btfo a Gemini fully crewed

shit was funny how they got panic and started running away

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>>158206907
>star citizen
>sane people

>>158207048
Do you remember the video?

>>158201362

I think it's hard to measure how big the game is versus EVE. Sure the volume of planets and star systems is going to be smaller than EVE. But keep in mind that Star Citizen is also shooting for greater density as far as things to see and do. The scope of the two games, when put side by side, are very different.

The difference in scope is evident even for the ships themselves. The ships of EVE, everything from a Frigate to a Titan are a player's avatar and the crews thereof basically do not exist in any tangible way due to the nature of the game. The ships of Star Citizen are tangible locations and your crew are characters to be interacted with.

So, sure, if you're talking raw numbers then EVE with its 8,000 or so star systems could be called bigger than Star Citizen with its 100+ systems. That said it's important to take into account what's in those star systems.

7.5 billion kilometers of places to go, things to do, and characters to interact with can be "bigger" than 7.5 trillion kilometers of mostly empty space.

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that's a nice ship you have there CMDR be a shame if I just slammed into the planet.

>>158208742
how many G's?

star citizen or elite dangerous?
elite looks better for now but there's no out of ship gameplay but isn't it supposed to be added in future?

>>158210435
>Supposed to be added

Supposed to be. But with the rate Frontier has been going at, EVA is going to be added by the time Star Citizen 4.0 is out.

>>158210435
elite if you want to play now, SC if you want to sit here shitposting all day for 6 months while riding the hype train

>>158210435
Star Citizen will be better in the long run.

T. /edg/uy who jumped ship to SC after being fucked over by FTroop

>>158210694
>>158210815
well I was thinking about buying Elite if they put it on 50% sale, but it feels like Star Citizen would be much more complex and iteresting, if it doesn't crash with no survivors of course

>>158211275
$15 elite sales happen now and then, that's a good time to buy

So is the Caterpillar just a normal "Cargo Ship?"

>>158211913

If by "cargo ship" you mean pirate boarding craft.

>>158211913
It's a ruggedized cargo ship.
Better armed, better armored and modular enough to be specialized into a niche role.
Think of it like the treatment freighters get in wartime. It wont stand up to a real warship but It will be able to swat away patrol boats and pirates, and depending on who is driving be able to pursue and overpower other cargo ships itself. And because it's at cargo ship at a heart you actually have space to carry away the plunder yourself.

Most pirate ships during the age of sail were little more than armed merchants with mutinous crews. the goal of a pirate i'snt to blast its targets to bits its to disable them and steal their shit intact, ideally cargo and ship both.

>>158212381
That sounds fun, hopefully they add a voice com in there and communicate with the game. Act like a Friendly cargo vessel then open up on them and disable their ships. Watch as they can only look on in horror as "Techs" climb aboard their ship and loot everything saying they're fixing it.

Is it just me, or is the Gladius underpowered, or at least it's weapon selection?

I'm flying it with three laser repeaters, and I just flew against some hornets and some sabres.

I was hitting every single shot, circling around them and I overheat before I get to do any damage. What gives?

>>158213986
>I was hitting every single shot
>I overheat before I get to do any damage
Contradictory statements. Get a better ship or stop crying about the Gladius.

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>>158210435
I originally planned to buy both. Then I heard about Elite Dangerous splitting its feature into 2 games at different price, ever since I'm afraid of buying it and discovering I need a new DLC to have more feature.

>>158212164
As far as I know it's a poor man's corvette from what I heard about customizing it by adding whatever module you want including turret

...if of course the Polaris didn't redefine corvette (it's a fregate to me)

>>158211913
If the freelancer is 50% cargo and 50% fighting and the Hull C is 100% cargo, than the catapillar would be 25% fighting 75% cargo.

>>158214589
>Contradictory statements.
Yeah, only if you're a retarded pedant.

Point is, before I get a kill I'm overheating and need to stop firing.

Example non-retarded conclusions:
"Use a better gun/loadout"

Tips?

They're not supposed to sync everyone up to 30 fps like they do now in the final game, right?

>>158214670
>splitting its feature into 2 games at different price
you mean the horizons dlc? or arena?
yeah that's the reason I wait for 50% sale, I ain't paying double the price to have basic features
that's why I'm also looking forward to star citizen, it looks so much more complex with all controling your character rather than spaceship, first person gameplay, being able to enter stations and go around your ship
but I'm afraid it will fail and end like no man's sky, all these millions from crowdfunding wasted
on the other hand elite is supposed to have all this added, but it might end up like horizons as dlc

>>158216594
He's talking about Horizons. What he fails to mention is the strong possibility that the game will keep splitting and fragmenting. How is Frontier going to do this? There are going to be people with Base game only playing people that only have base game and Horizons playing with people that have base game, plus horizons plus the third "expansion pack", playing with people that have base game plus horizons plus third, and fourth.

What a clusterfuck.

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>>158210191
1.97g you can see it in the screenshot.

Do you recommend the constellation? If so, which variant?

I want one with LTI.

>>158216912
Nah man, Frontier said they're going to stop supporting versions before Horizons when the next xpac comes out

>>158216912
yeah, that's why I'm reluctant to buying it outside of big sale, because there will be another DLC for 20 euros, then another and another, all adding stuff that should be there from day one
let's hope star citizen will be complete at release date, I think they said that there won't be any paid dlcs

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>>158217225
As long as you're aware that it's a freighter and not some "space superiority platform" like some people on RSI believe it's pretty good. Ridiculous frontal firepower (4 gimbaled S4, 28 S1 and 72 S2 missiles) plus having the Merlin to harass or just dick around in is kinda neat.
I'd recommend the Aquila since it comes with the Rover (but less S1 missiles and -1 turret). In the final game you could just rip the scanners out and put weapons back in if you wanted to.

>>158217260
Wait, what?

>>158217263
I remember someone trying to convince me to buy Horizons.

>You'll just be behind on everything you know, if you wait to buy it.

I'm glad I didn't listen to them.

>>158217668
Neat. But is the Aquila even out yet?

>>158217260
so buy horizons or fuck off?

>>158217828
It's in 3.0.

why is entering my 325 so difficult, finding where exactly to stand is a pain in the ass

>>158217885
>>158217668
What's the difference between CCU'd Andromeda's and others?

>>158218465
None.

>>158218465
Insurance? CCUs only have the insurance of the original ship the CCU is applied to

>>158220408
LTI doesn't follow the ship?

Is there a way to change throttle mode in star citizen so it doesn't "hold" the throttle automatically, and only thrusts forwards when I press W?

>>158220618
Nope. If a ship currently has LTI and you get a CCU and apply it to a (for example) six month insurance ship, it'll only have six months. You need to melt the ship and use the store credit for the new LTI ship if you want LTI. CCU only changes the ship, not insurance.

>>158217668
But annon, the constellations sole role is to be better than other ships. Thats why it is a space superiority plataform. It is suppoed to outperform everything else.

>>158215352
>Tips?
Get a better ship or a refund.

>enter a F1 race in a ford escort
>complain that your top speed isnt good enough to beat F1 cars

>enter arena commander in your light fighter
>complain that your firepower isnt good enough to beat heavy fighters

>>158207502
DanGheesling has a recent ish one where they swarm a gemini with warlocks

all it does is cut shields and engines for a few seconds, but if you've got a larger ship waiting there to blow them to hell this is invaluable. or if shields ever have anything to do with boarding

warning: hes an autistic canadian who can't type, speak english, or play this game for his life, and makes hundreds of videos of basically him being a cameraman for his org

>>158211913
poor man's endeavor, poor man's destroyer, or if youre a very boring person, it can haul a solid amount of cargo while maintaining some other utility in alot of other things

4 cargo modules which should be able to be repurposed, and a 5th nose room which may or may not be a hangar/salvage grinder. they avoided that room in the most recent video but it had large bulkhead doors.

>>158215352
Ignore that autist. Put Bulldogs/badgers/Panthers on all your guns and you'll be able to shoot for days and do significant damage while you're at it. Component system will let us use REC and Alpha UEC to get better coolers as well.

>>158215352
Also Gladius requires a precise oppertunist attack style, consider the Buccaneer/Cutlass/Hornet if you want to rely more on firepower than being nimble

>>158223298
>Ignore that autist
This is funny because he already said he was using energy repeaters and claimed he was landing 100% of his shots and doing no damage and overheating.

You call me an autist? LOL :^)

>>158223464
>This is funny because he already said he was using energy repeaters and claimed he was landing 100% of his shots and doing no damage and overheating.

I don't understand how that changes the fact I believe you have impaired social interaction, verbal and non-verbal communication, and restricted and repetitive behavior.