/simg/ - Simulation Games General

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can i /spintires/ here? does anybody else still /spintires/ here?

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A E S T H E T I C S

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BMS has so much splash damage. A Maverick can take out 3 lightly armored vehicles if they're near each other. I know DCS has literally no splash damage, but I wonder if BMS is wrong in the opposite direction.

>>158255000
There's a few people who do racing sims, but I don't know if anybody in this thread plays Spintires. Though, you're more than welcome to post about it if you want to. It fits the thread description.

>>158255287
You don't know how much I want to throw you into a gas chamber and watch your lungs catch on fire craig you fucking kike.

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>>158255576

Please don't respond to him.

Seriously, everyone just ignore him. If he gets literally 0 replies he has to eventually stop.

The entire fucking point of him baiting is so he can respond with pepe pictures and then say "bodied" and "baited"

Just don't do it.

Also, have this R A R E as fuck Tomcat.

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>>158255891
whoah R A R E

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>>158256016

fighter jet trading card game where R A R E cards have the rarest/dankest liveries WHEN???

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>>158255576
>>158255891
baited

>>158255891
>>158256016
>>158256083

It's this kind of shit posting that kills these threads and drives any kind of coherent normal discussion away

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>>158256083
I'll trade you 2 aesthetics for 1 rare

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>>158256303
DOOD U DONT LEIK MEEG??????!!????

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>>158256434

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>>158256303
DOOD SHIIIIIT THATZ AESTHTIC AS FUCK
LIT
DOOD
ILL TRADE U A RARE MEEG FOR SOME RARE MEEGS DOOD RARE RARE RARE RARE

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>MiG pilot jerks awake in his seat
>co pilot ask what is matter tovarish
>is nothing komrade only had bad dream of NATO
>haha tovarish do not worry we are safe
but in reality...

>>158256083
>fighter jet trading card game where
I remember collecting them in the late 80's, early 90's in Eastern Europe.
And that's the extent of my memories.

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Pretty rare

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Hello gentlemen,

I was wondering, is it possible to save Silent Hunter 5 with mods or was it impossible to fix?

>>158258924
it apparently is fixable if you don't have the steam version look up the wolves of steel modpack.

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Ran into our AWACS on the way back home from a very uneventful BARCAP.

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>>158261089
Thanks!

Take this image of Belinda as show of my appreciation.

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>>158261194
I've been flying for a Korean squadron for a change. All the fancy toys on the new USAF F-16s makes things a little too easy and it's gotten kind of boring, so it's fun to be throwing around dumb bombs when you need to destroy some airfields. The smartest weapon this squadron gets is Mavericks.

>>158261596

I like Israeli campaign where you only get Pythons.

You merge with Floggers and Foxbats quite a bit.

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>>158261727
Yeah after today I'm curious to give that another try. I only played it once to look around, but never got into it. Right now I'm using a lot of dumb weapons, but everything else in the theatre is still tearing it up HARMS, AMRAAMs, and AA-12s. From what I hear the Israeli theater almost plays by 3rd generation rules in terms of equipment available to both sides.

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>>158258924
Yes, get the Uplay version. go here
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=249

get whatever mods you want (Steal Wolves being the best) and go from there.

Some tips, SH5 crashed when I had my CPU set to default speed, which apparently was too fast for it, you you may need to underclock.

If you get the steal wolves mod, before installing it, go in the tex folders and delete any tex files pertaining to the U-boat external skin, they'll make the U-boat look rusted as shit and it's not realistic at all. I could tell you exactly which files to delete if you actually intend to go through with any of this in the future.

>>158262569
Sure, I spent most of my time playing SH3 and SH4, they are now sold in steam for like $5 for the three, tried to play once or twice SH5 but after 3 crashes I forgot about it.

But I just have to delete all the tex files, right?

>>158261875

It does feel old school.

I hope that Germany map comes out someday. Dynamic campaign during Soviet invation of Europe during the 1980s.... I would fly the fuck out of that

>>158263158
>delete all the tex files,

No no no, only two files I think, they just make the Uboat go from looking new to being rusted, when you install mods backups are created for everything anyways

>>158255287
Got anymore roasted slavshit?

That is just the way I like them, roasted with some salt on it.

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>>158264317

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Dumb DCS AI and poor missiles continue to be a problem

ops when?

>>158267296
>a problem
Show proofs )))))

>>158268497
>R-27ER fired at 35,000 feet
>loses all it's airspeed after travelling only 10nm
>begins making a vertical drop into the ocean
>continues to lose several hundred knots from a nose-down free-fall

>>158268658
We`ve analysed this with our papers and you`re wrong
10% warning ))))

don't let it die

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r a r e

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Can you imagine how comfy the F-18 is gonna be to fly? A full clickable, maximum simulation, H I G H A L P H A, naval equivalent to the F-15 for DCS.

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>>158274172
>carrier capable
>superb CAS and ground attack ability
>high alpha, good in a fight
>can carry tons of spamraam or sparrows for airquake
>fuel tanks for days
>returns pre-contact
>comfy af

you cannot be more multirole than this jet

it does e v e r y t h i n g

and I want it right now

>>158274285
It will be even memier to do shit like this, can't wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jE9wcumubs

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w h e n ?

>>158255000
I play some spintires. Love it, though I feel like I'm struggling as much or more with the camera as with the terrain at times. And there's a lot of minor adjustments that would make it so much better, like different length of winch wire on trucks, perhaps upgradeable length, ability to winch out, ability to use forward and rear winch at the same time, better multiplay with roles (fuel support, transport, rescue or something like that).

>>158274172
>>158274285
>>158274445
ALL HAIL GODS PLANE,
THE F/A-18C HORNET!

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>>158274580
can't wait to body su-33s in my bug then shit LGBs on his bmp for good measure

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guess which way I'm turning kid, heheh

renard

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daily reminder that the MiG-25 is 1-0 against F-18's

:^)

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>>158275069
g o d s p l a n e

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>>158275652

f a s t

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>>158276162
speedy mcfast

>people getting excited about a module that is probably going to be broken and unplayable
Oh am i going to laugh to your tears

>>158277649
Yeah why are people getting hyped for the Viggen is beyond me, good thing that the F/A -18C comes out after it.

>>158275069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrYcxXIg5fI

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>>158275069

>>158279845
I hope Clinton gets elected and we get WW3

I'd like to see how good the killcam footage of the F-35 and F-22 is

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Doing a late night sortie of dropping a hot sticky load on disgusting foreigners.

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Russian "carrier", holy kek my sides have left the galaxy.

>>>/k/31752943

>inb4 Slavboo delusions and excuses

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comfy

Superior Russian navigation system with datalink and everything!

DCS is correct again! How can the West even compete?

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>>158280564
Fucking lost my picture.

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>>158280406
>>158280505
>Half way to the destination so I can nuke an airfield that has 3 helicopters
>This happens
Why do I even bother.

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bump

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Okay, I fell for the Initial D meme and bought Assetto Corsa, my first ever racing sim. I played it on keyboard for about 2 weeks, and I never felt better in my life. I'm hooked now.

Any suggestions for a good wheel + pedals?

>>158280778
>playing dcs
you have no one but yourself to blame

>>158284291
Why can't DCS just be good? :'(

>>158284291
>>158284597
They cant find the documents))))

>>158283885
The logitech G27 is like the Saitek X52 of the joystick world (when they werent made by Mad Catz). Unfortunately they don't make them anymore. I bought mine used at 150 britbongs but 2 years later even used copies go twice as much

>>158285000
I actually have Saitek X52 Pro for my flight sims, so is it a good or a bad thing?

Also, are logitech gearsticks that come with the wheels good or should I buy another one?

>>158285165
The G27 is a robust wheel, shifter and pedal set. I mean I havent tried any other wheel. But I have never had any big complaints about it. Works alright, force feedback feels great in PCars and especially in Dirt Rally. Shifter works as expected. I have panels on my floor so I have issues with the pedals since they don't really stick to the ground anymore. That's about it

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nth for holy pilto

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Woof

>>158274172
>maximum simulation
>high alpha
>equivalent to the f15

wew lad calm down

Falcon BMS is fun.

>>158287727
10/10 post epic

>>158285706
>reply, thanks ace pilto and your r27s not get spoofed

>>158287862
Craig just stop with the bait

>>158287862
>>158288107
>what is the s300
>stealth meme
>f35 the ultimate attacker


"no"

>(Dead)
kek

FSB works fast

>>158288386
>fsb doing completely un sun tzu shit

>>158287862
Russia would mainly focus on defence because of the lack of numbers but in air doctrine defending is a flawed strategy because you give the opponent the initiative.

Also Syria is not worth it and Hillary has no word over the Congress which has the final word.

Then again this is common sense but we are in /simg/ where people are delusional slavboos and furries.

>>158288386
>>158288519
>hurrr fsb
>durr russian things
i think at this point i have slavboos more than furries, at least furries dont fucking parade their shit around the thread 24 fucking 7

its not funny anymore

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>>158287727
>implying HATO would even get airborne before getting roasted by spicy iskander memes

xaxaxaxaxa

>>158288586
Good now go suck off a furry

>>158286965
ivan, ffs don't fuck your new dog

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We're never getting a true dyed-in-the-wool NATO gunship, are we?

>>158274172
The hornet is much closer to an f16 in terms of flight profile. Real life isn't like DCS where the F15 can turn 14g sustained. The f15 was never designed to be a good turn fighter.

>>158255076
BMS is wrong.

>>158290035
DCS is wrong.

>>158255076
BMS does weapons which are supposed to have splashdamage (CBU's, blast fragmentation warheads, etc.) right by just giving them a huge kill radius as an approximation. Unfortunately BMS is very bad at simulating any sort of penetration so you end up with mavericks ripping 3 tanks even though they don't work this way (atleast the D doesn't, it's shaped charge).

TL;DR DCS does single target damage better, BMS is better at structural damage (runways, buildings) and fragmentation/splash.

>>158290035
>>158290202
both are wrong

>>158290558
Right answer

>>158289850
nope

>>158275069
speculation, it could have been a SAM or engine failure. The play was found almost perfectly intact so it highly doubtful a mig shot it down, and given Sadams propaganda machine we never would have heard the end of that. Too bad Spiecher is still MIA, i would buy him a beer

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Shitpost resurgence when?

>>158296754
Soon.
Now actually.
Gods plane.

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>>158290291
>BMS is better at structural damage (runways, buildings) and fragmentation/splash.
Dropping 2k pound bombs on shit and watching the huge columns of smoke and explosion is so satisfying.

plen a shit tonk is best

>>158289850
AH-1S or AH-1W, one of those

Can we get some OC making fun of slavboos?
They get butthurt so easily and i love it when they start crying.

>>158297356
>On the first night of the war, two F/A-18s from the carrier USS Saratoga were flying outside of Baghdad when two Iraqi MiG-25PDs interceptors from the 96th Squadron engaged them. In the beyond-visual-range (BVR), one of the Iraqi MiGs, piloted by Lieutenant Colonel Zuhair Dawood, fired an R-40 missile, shooting down one of the F/A-18's as it was travelling Mach 0.92. The pilot, Lieutenant Commander Scott Speicher, was killed. It is widely believed he died upon the impact of the missile.[2]

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>The longest serving, most popular, largest number produced, largest amount of operators SAM still isn't in DCS

>>158298035
You just want it so that the dumbass greek and jew put it in blueflag, so we can have even more useless air defense.

>>158298726
It's still (much) better than the Sa-3

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>>158297941
>natoboos blown the FUCK out

>>158298768
Honestly the SA-3 seems a lot more effective IRL than in DCS.

In DCS, the thing burns for like 5 seconds, stops and burns all its energy doing baby maneuvers.

This is how it is IRL.

https://youtu.be/_zPWfSadv1g?t=34

watch from 0:34 if it doesn't start at that already

Just ignore and report gentleman.

When he starts getting 0 replies, he'll leave again.

>>158299580
which posts are you talking about?

>>158299538
Anything missile related in DCS is especially shit. In BMS once they think they can get you, your RWR lights up like a christmas tree with launch warnings.

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>>158299990
return

>>158299990
I want interstates to have giant tanker trucks that straddle the highway so that cars can refuel without stopping at a gas station.

>>158300137
while in motion

>>158300404
Yes

>>158301553
That would require cars to drive on the left :^)

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Do you have a moment to talk about freedom?

>craig getting this desperate

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>>158305157
J-J-Just one (y-y-you)
Help me plz

@158306560
Gonna need better than that

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So... farming sim 2017 in 3 hours?

>>158306560
kill yourself

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big russian missile

>>158307261
>no shitty MiG-23 module ever
Here lies the hopes and dreams of anon who lives in a world where another 3rd generation module would result in people actually playing them.

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>>158289979
I added "for DCS" for a reason.

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>>158307482
At least a MiG-27 would actually be a cool and interesting aircraft

>tfw no cannon that literally destroys your aircraft if you fire it for too long

>>158307612
But mig-27 is SUPER SEKRIT

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>>158307046

>>158308092
Why the hell do you have autistic amount of froge pics

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OUT IN 3 HOURS. GET HYPE

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>>158308317

>>158308630
Youre a shitposter

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>>158308630

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do not disturb the armor while it is copulating

>>158308747
This isnt /hr/ my dude

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BMP always strikes where the enemy is at his weakest

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>>158308717
>>158308741

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>>158309001
>>158308741
>>158308630

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>>158309134

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With just 24 rounds out of 500, the BMP-2 could mission-kill a tank at a distance of 1200 meters. The number of shots the Object 675 was permitted to fire was controlled for trial reasons. In combat, the gunner could easily choose shoot until he was sure that his target was truly out of action.

>>158309979
But can it make me a good cup of tea?

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>>158274547
yes the camera is a continuous pita, i dl'd SpintiresPlus it allows farther zoom out with the camera, and you can lengthen the winch to 40 meters. the camera still moves without input but it is better. i like your ideas for multiplayer.

>>158308626
farm grils a best

>Computer stuck in update hell, complete windows reinstall stuck going on for 8 hours
>Frogposter shitting up /simg/

Truly today is a day of torment

whats the flight sim with the most well-done bomber damage or bombsights?
Examples: northern bombsight in american bombers in IL-2 1946

>>158312705
Probably BoS.

>>158312705
BOS and BOM is your best bet for bomber stuff.

who is craig anyways and is he different from greg?
this is getting confusing, i thought harmshit, stimshit and cepshit are the worst offenders.

>Windows reinstall malfunctioned
Kill me desu lmaoo

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>>158314556
No one can save you now

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>>158314556
you're fucking dead kiddo

>>158263293
>Dynamic campaign during Soviet invation of Europe during the 1980s
Just looked this up and it's amazing it hasn't happened yet. I'd love to fly an 80s campaign in BMS.

>>158314556
How? What's failing exactly?

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>>158263293
I would make it

The biggest obstacles for such scenarios right now imo is the lack of legacy equipment on the side of NATO, and the lack of immersion because we're stuck in the Caucasus

>>158315980
>i hope the germany map for bms comes out soon
>we are stuck in the caucasus
You retarded famigo?

>>158316279
people care about bms?

>>158316334
Literally 2

Are there any acceptable small joysticks?

Thinking something maybe the size of an Atari-2600 stick with a slider for a throttle on it. Just a small thing you could carry with you when travelling like a game controller, instead of a proper vaguely life-sized aircraft stick.

I know I could just find a 2600 style stick, but I was wondering ahead if anyone knew of one with nice additional things (like a throttle slider) before doing that.

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>>158313773
>What is craig?

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>>158312635
Bodied.

>>158318540
I am craignant?

>>158318540
>>158318718
Why does he pizza the rolls

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BMS OPS WHEN?

>>158319407
>BMS op time
>Everyone comes in
>Kraut hosts but leaves at the last sec
>No one to host for us

>BMS AI wingman starts launching missiles at shit
>meanwhile I didn't even know that there were any enemy blains nearby

>>158319598
AI in BMS is omniknowing.
>take off
>ai spots enemies on the other side of korea

>>158319598
>2 let me at em
>3 hounddog
>4 hounddog
BMS AI are unrealistically good at finding targets.

any ops habbening?

>>158320049
>>158320091

thats kinda lame 2bh

>>158321425
It is not always like that.
>fly mission as flight lead
>3 ai ships behind me
>2 ship of 29s slides in right behind our flight
>wingmen say nothing
>29s fire
>look back
>what is that object off to my right side...?
>explode
Thanks for nothing you shit AI.

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wall no match for power of t-72

>>158315307

Technically they have.

A modder made a couple low quality maps and Europe was one of them.

Krause made a review of it and it's fucking horrible. He is like us and talks about how much he would love a cold war campaign, he gushes over it for the first couple minutes.

But overall the actual map is a terrible copy and paste job. Apparently there is a desert storm map payware, but idk.

The Germany map that that one dude is making looks fucking quality though. It's all made custom and looks great.

>>158315912
The Computer began the reinstall. There was a black screen and the HDD activity light was flashing non stop for a good few hours. then it stopped and video output never resumed

>>158325129
why reinstall
which windows
have you installed windows before
are you underage

>>158322479
Most tanks can do this

>>158325231
>Why
Updates weren't working and I needed new drivers for new games

>Which
8, I needed to update it to 8.1 and that was the update that was fucking up in the first place

>Have you
No

>Underage
No

>>158325306
So? He just posted a gif about a tank climbing a wall.

>>158325341
Just install windows 7 famalam

>>158325385
>for power of t-72
implies that this sort of wall climbing is a special ability only possessed by the mythical entity called t-72.

>>158325654
No one implied that, no need to be so upset

>>158325420
I'd be happy enough getting my PC working again at all :^)

>>158325738
kys slavboo

>>158325129
Your computer actually tried auto updating to win 10.
You can thank Microsoft for that.
Just install Linux.

>>158325341
Install 8.1 on a usb and use that.

>>158325341
Are you aware that there's an offline tool from windows which basically fixes the most common issues, including the one you were suffering? Basically you reinstalled for nothing.

>>158325341
have you tried turning it on and off again?
maybe yank the cable or spit on the cd?

>>158326715
Currently doing that

>>158326996
I'd tried everything to fix my issue, believe me.

>>158327007
I'm currently jizzing into the CD drive and wiping my balls all over the machine if that'll help

>>158325420
>implying updating 7 is less shitty than updating 8
i did a fresh install of 7 a few weeks ago, it took 36 hours for windows to update its shitty self

where do pilots land in case of engine failure IRL?
roads? open fields?

>>158327719
wherever

>>158327719
Anywhere you can. When I was taught I just picked a nearby golf course

>>158327889
nice dude
so is it part of training? do they just say "pick an open place" ? no other remarks?

>>158328035
My instructor said to me something to the effect of
"If you suffer a power loss after takoff then just pick an open field (he then pointed out all the suitable landing fields in the golf course that our takeoff climb took us over) And if you suffer a power loss in the circuit then you have more than enough lift to glide back and land normally"

Of course I was training in a shitty light aircraft, but I imagine the principle is the same almost universally.

>>158319538
Literally playing as we speak

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I really want to like the Su-25T, but the sensors on it are just so blah compared to the A-10's TGP. Hell, the original one doesn't even have a FLIR camera.

I've made progress on unfucking my pc


Taking out my GPU and using the onboard graphics seems to have fixed this. Hopefully I haven't fucked my GPU

>>158330890
By this I mean the no video output at all. I really really hope I haven't fucked my GPU

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>>158330482

>>158331016
sounds like you really really fucked your GPU
either that or the computer thought it was more fitting to send video only to the onboard graphics port

>>158331138
What I hope happened is that the GPU didn't send video because there were no drivers for it.


What probably happened is that it died...

>>158331138
Usually thats handled by the BIOS and its quite odd for that to get changed without a reason.

>>158332060
If you saw video driver errors then, after some time no output, it died.

>>158332845
I didn't see any errors, the PC restarted itself to do a windows reinstall and on startup had no output

>>158332969
Use the onboard vcard to fiddle with the BIOS and change the output to the external vcard to see what happens.

>>158333263
I already removed it from the computer, I'm gonna install the drivers and pop it back in, see if that helps

Fucked PC anon here, posting from the machine in question.
On the bright side the PC now runs as fast as it did when it was brand new.
Gonna let updates run overnight and come morning I shall update my GPU drivers and troubleshoot the GPU itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohYKt3kBSD4
>dat naked F-16 acceleration

>>158334550
>Turk

>there will never be a flight sim on the frostbite engine

just fuck me up.

Imagine the graphics.
Imagine the effects.

>>158336110
Eh, I'm content with the graphics in the current simulators. That's the least of their problems.

>>158336342

True. Priority for DCS right now imo should be fix missiles. If they fixed just that the sim would be 10x better than its current state.

My dream is that they fix the explosion effects though. For ground explosions, but more importantly the effect for air craft getting shot down.

Like watch this webm:
>>158279845

I want effects like that. There isn't just a puff and then smoke. Its a fucking bright as fuck STREAK of fire.

Every Air to Air kill looks like that, and it looks so fucking amazing.

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>>158336605
Don't forget the afterburners.

>>158336893

Yes. Basically all the effects seem not bright enough and don't stand out at all.

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>>158337018

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>>158337075

>this type of effect will never be in DCS

Hurts

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So the BMS team themselves have actually said that because of how old the code is, it is impossible for them to make different systems.

It will never happen.
As an F-16 sim, it will always have a place in my heart since the days of Falcon, but the fact that it basically has no future besides possibly getting a Germany map by a modder upsets me.

DCS is literally our only hope.

Fuck.

>>158338502
just wait 5 years and DCS will be good, I promise

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>>158339013

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>>158330482
This is still one of my favorite DCS shots.

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>>158339590
Along with this one.

Both were taken back before 1.5 was still in the openbeta branch.

>>158338502
They should start a new open source flightsim engine project employing future-proof and portable programming while ripping as much as possible from BMS into it, eventually reaching close to BMS feature parity and moving forwards from there. But they probably don't have the necessary pool of effort and talent for this so it's only a dream.

The promise of tearing the autistic flightsim goyim cuckdom with some GNU+freedums sounds kinda satisfying desu.

>>158340216
It would turn out like X-Plane in the absolute best case scenario.

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>>158340503

>>158338502
Doesn't it run off of code from the 1980s?

>>158340187

>special snowflake attention whore that is inverted in every picture

I bet you are the type of guy that makes sure everyone knows just how good you are whether they want to listen or not.

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>>158339760
I made the dumbass decision to get it off of Steam and can't get a lot of the new modules. I still got the Gazelle, though, and it's easily my second favorite, after the Huey. The A-10C is a comfortable third, but I'm a big rotorwing nut.

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>>158341582
It's a well established fact that he is the top ace

>>158341763
Just download standalone and that's it. All the Steam keys transfer over. There's literally no reason to use DCS on Steam.

The Falcon Dynamic Campaign is still the most impressive game feature I have ever seen.

The fact that they said, "Fuck it. Simulate the entire Air, Land, and Sea war between North and South Korea and put an F-16 pilot in the middle of all of it" and it fucking worked blows my mind.

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>>158342139
I unironically think Falcon's dynamic campaign is one of video gaming's wonders of the world.

>>158342552
It's certainly special.

>>158330682
su25t doesn't have FLIR irl either

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>>158342552

Its a miracle of the universe and needs to be protected.
I mean look at that shit. If you don't think thats the tightest shit you can get out of my face.

Honestly BMS is fucking lit. Its so fucking good.

The ONLY thing holding it back is that the F-16 is the only real plane in the game. This isn't even that big of a negative, considering the F-16 is one of the most capable multi-role aircraft ever made.

Like I said, DCS is our only hope. It will literally never EVER have a dynamic campaign on the same level as Falcon, but maybe a good random mission generator would be enough, especially once we get even more planes and terrains.

ED just needs to fix missiles, update AI, and we are on track.

>>158345736
>but maybe a good random mission generator would be enough
I kinda wonder what's stopping modders from making one. On the IL-2 series they pop up quite fast.

i wish at least one serious developer tackled spanish civil war
is there any good flight sim based in the 30's ? I-15, early i-16, early stuka and 109

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>>158346085

I'm pretty sure a modder is making one right now. Something called MOOSE I think.

It doesn't even need to be super indepth. It could be on a single mission basis.

Something where you're like, ok, I want to fly the MiG-21 today.

Program makes an objective; defend this, attack this, escort this

Then, it places units. Puts you and your allies at Beslan for example.

Places enemies somewhere a flights distance from Beslan, puts some enemies in the air and ground.

Makes a simple breifing telling you hey, you are here, go do this, here is probable enemy resistance.

I know its easy to talk, but fuck that can't be impossible. That already would satisfy most of my single player needs.

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>>158345736
>It will literally never EVER have a dynamic campaign on the same level as Falcon, but maybe a good random mission generator would be enough, especially once we get even more planes and terrains.
DCS doesn't really need to have a dynamic campaign on the same level as BMS. I mean, it'd be great if it did, but to get close enough in the ways that matter I don't think is unreasonable.

To me, there are two things that BMS affords: being a part of a bigger battle, and planning your missions not knowing what's actually out there. Both of those can be faked reasonably well. BOS/BOM already fakes this in a decent manner where it seems to just spawn units around the area based on who holds what and then have them shoot at each other.

Honestly, that gets you like 70% of the way there in terms of how it affects you the player, and that's all DCS really needs. It needs a dynamic element to it. What I hate about DCS scripted missions is that you always know where and when everything is going to happen, especially if you made the mission yourself.

Having the game work in zones might be best, where say a hostile town as a zone would spawn SAM sites, AAA, and some tanks. Maybe some of those tanks will drive over to an enemy zone to give the appearance of them doing something. This way, you could create "scenarios" where the mission creator is just laying out zones in a certain way to create a small world for people to fly missions in.

As an end user in the mission editor you'd see all the zones as they were laid out, but you wouldn't know exactly what was in them unless you cracked open some mission file.

Writing this out makes me want to attempt something like this with mission scripting but fuck that is a nightmare to work with.

I don't know, I'm just spitballing. DCS isn't bad, but once you learn a plane and its systems there's just not anything interesting to do with it.

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>>158346085
>>158348040
I just found this, I wonder if it's any good. It is ofc not dynamic but it's advertised as:
Select Plane
Select Role

Boom random mission.

Do Random Mission
Come back
Get another randomly generated mission
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2140816/
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2931168

This is the dynamic campaign system wip mod:
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=153020

Made by the guy who made Guardians of the Caucasus

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https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2932004&postcount=1196

>This man says he's been working on this mod for 7 years
>no other info

Looks great, I hope it's not a LOL PRIVATE USE ONLY deal.

>>158347445
The only two I can think of is IL-2 '46 with mods (but IL-2 is fairly simple) and War Thunder's sim events (but it's WT)

>>158348845
>https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2140816/
Messing around with this right now and it's pretty cool. You request missions based on the F10 menu, and if you complete certain missions you can call in a flight for backup if you need it. There's air to air, multirole, air to ground, recon, and supply missions.

>>158351119
There's not really too much to it, but it's a really cool proof of concept.

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s u k h o i

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anyone can identify the planes on this propaganda poster?
i think the two tanks shown are the FT-17 and the T-26

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0kAJunnnGQ

this is not lit

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>>158355631
>Fox 2B: "Not bad. Where's Alpha?"
>Pilot: "Didn't see a chute."
>silence

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>>158348845
>>158351119

Yo this is actually pretty neat. Its actually what i was asking for.

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I'm not sure why exactly you'd want an SR-71 in DCS but it's cool that someone is making a mod for one nonetheless.

>>158359073
Gotta' go fast.

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>>158359073
Because it is sexual.

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give em the good 'ol knifeslice

>>158363193
>bms damage models are worse

>>158348758
You don't need scripts for the stuff you are talking about, you can do it all with triggers.

>>158336110
>He thinks effects have to do with the engine

anon please stop falling for the engine meme.

Look at PR, it's got better effects on a shit ass engine that was shit from day one, than most modern games.
Effects have little to do with the engine and everything to do with the artists.
World in conflict is another game, i've yet to see a game of any sort surpass the effects that are in that game.

>>158366129
>Effects have little to do with the engine and everything to do with the artists
This sentence made me imagine a sim with stylized graphics.
I need this in my life.

So nasty.

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Do you think the F-18 even has a chance to release before Christmas?

>>158368243
no hornets are gay

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>>158368243
I wager that the earliest possible date is a pre-release beta on New Years day.

>>158359073
I don't see why they wouldn't put it in something like FSX instead, the SR-71 would be across the whole Caucasus map in minutes.

I suppose it was very dependent on airborne refueling, but still.

>>158368274
t. butthurt slavboo that will get bodied by 120s

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D Y N A M I C

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>>158370746

>>158368243
Lol no.

>>158372656
You think they watch top gun every weekend?

>>158372656
Fucking politics always killing our fun

>>158370746
>tfw you forget just how old the military equipment we work with is

>>158365949
I mention doing it with code because that way it's more dynamic and not hard coded to the specific mission. Either way it would work better if ED did it so it would work better and be less of a hack. I'm just trying to think of ways they could create a campaign mode that's good enough without having to rewrite how their SP everything works.

>>158374713
Why does DCS use lua? It is literally a meme language. Then again DCS is full of memes.

>>158374713
you can make a template mission though with everything set up and just change stuff.

a script would be better but something stops working every other week with scripts.

>>158374836
because 16 years ago lua wasnt meme tier

For the love of god someone help me get the pmdg 737 and 777.

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>>158375358
>because 16 years ago lua wasn't meme tier
>16 years
>DCS is 16 years old
>still arcade FM's
>no new mig 29 with full clickable cockpit

>>158375358
>DCS is 16 years old
>still no proper missiles
>still no proper dedicated server
> still no better netcode
>still no dynamic campaign
>still no better textures for ground vehicles
>still no new ground vehicles
Etc...

Why do we even play this shit again?

>>158376234
Too ignorant to play BMS

>>158376234
Too stupid for BMS

>>158376234
Show me a better alternative for the Black Shark.

>>158376268
>>158376294
Seriously, who are you trying to impress?

>>158376364
Show me a better not f-16 alternative at that.

>>158376364
>rotary
>relevant at all
laughingtomcruise. gif

>>158376364
>only true simulator that includes attack helichopters therefore its the best

>>158376487
>relevant at all
Yes, it is relevant to my interests. That's why I gave it as a reason for why I'm playing DCS.
You're not too dumb to realize that, right?

>>158376512
Who are you quoting? Because it sure as hell isn't me.
Are you just making up imaginary scenarios so you can pretend that you're winning some imaginary battle?

>>158376605
>m-muh helicoptahs
lol no one cares about that shit kiddo

>>158376660
Just post your pepe pictures already.

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>>158376719
>thinks rotary was ever relevant
>gets upset when called out for supporting shit
Oh i am laughing

>>158376605
Your ignorance and stupidity amazes me.Go and play with your baby rotors,maybe one day you will realise that you`re playing in a shitbox.

IT HAS THE BLACK SHARK!
IT IS RELEVANT TO MY INTERESTS!
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF OVER HALF THE SHIT IS MISSING AND THE OTHER HALF IS BROKEN!

Must be a Slavboo or a Vatnik as no one else is this delusional.

>>158376830
>>158377208
Seriously, fuck off! I like rotary wing and don't care what you natoshitters think.

>>158377208
>play BMS for dynamic campaign and F-16
>play CLOD and BOS for ww2 planes
>play DCS for choppers
>muh slavboo shitposting
Don't you ever get tired?

>>158377450
>Not playing BMS for WW2 planes
>Not playing BMS for Helicopters
>Not playing BMS for mirage, f-18, mig-29, su-27, f-4, Tornado.
>Not playing BMS for superior flight modeling
Delusional slavaboos everyone.

>>158377707
Everything in BMS feels like its on rails and the tiles are shit

>>158377819
>Muh in rail gameplay
kys slavboo

>>158377707
Yes, yes, epic bait.
Don't you get bored of the same shit?

>>158377819
Yeah DCS has way better flight modeling. Just look at the MiG-29 variants, the SU-33, Mirage, Hawk, C-101

Quality flight models. Oh wait you play rotary that can only fly straight without any heavy maneuvering, definitely not on rails shit.

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>its another BMS vs DCS episode

B-but DCS has TRAINERS!

>>158378509
desu I like these episodes. They're way more fun and not self destructive and toxic like some of the other forms of shitposting this thread has seen.

>it's another TS drama episode
Now that's some shitposting worth killing yourself over.

>>158378764
B-but DCS will reach 2.5 till the end of the year!
And it will get the Viggen, Hornet and P-40!
And one new map with updates for the other two!
And the MiG-21 will be fixed!

Definitely in this year and in the next 2 months! Definitely!

>>158379382
>P-40
Dont
Talk
About
The
VEAO

>>158379382
>And the MiG-21 will be fixed!
When was the last time someone in these threads actually said this?

Why are there like 3 different TS's now?

>>158379943
We now separate real content, furries and slavaboos

>>158380191
Did the TS drama finally boil over and reach critical mass?

>>158379562
It's such a shame how far LNS has fallen. I'm really hoping that the recent shit show has to do with them prioritizing the Viggen and refactoring a lot of code for it, porting it back to MiG-21, and breaking shit constantly because of it. I'm hoping that once the Viggen comes out things stabilize again. But fuck, nothing they've done recently has instilled confidence that anything they do will ever work right again. There are literally game breaking bugs on that plane every other patch.

>turn on radar
>crash entire server
Just fuck my shit up senpai

I want my MiG-21 to be great again. Is that too much to ask for?

>>158380283
Dunno, I don't go to any of them.

There is ""autism"" and there is me

>>158380491
then how do you play ops?

>>158380429
Some of the problems are patially EDs fault as well.

>Allow people to create modules as 3rd parties
>Give them little to no documentation how these really complex things work
>Not give them a good functional base to work on.
Seriously why didn't they have functional DCS level radar code that 3rd parties can just adopt to what they need?

>>158380948
>I am just here to shitpost
You're not any better than them you know.

>>158380948
lets form an alliance of shit

>>158380941
Because they've been putting off creating a DCS radar for years by doing ground attack, light attack, radarless helos, and trainers instead.

A radar is literally one of the points of the DCS Hornet, it gives them an excuse to finally make a DCS level radar and API for developers to use.