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Previous thread: >>158086765

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv
>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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HAHA, LAST THREAD WASN'T ACTUALLY THE FINAL THREAD

YOU'VE ALL BEEN RUSED
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>>158184736
WE WILL NOT ABANDON THE DREAM
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Anybody in need of co-op?
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Seems like some1 wants bbg to end, ds3 dlc that mediocore huh?
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>>158184861
Agreed. Just let it end.
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>>158184861
>Abandoning the dream
Trick your bloodletter faggot
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>>158184834
It deserved to be the last thread though
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>>158184897
Naw bbg has life in it yet, ds3 is a fucking meme game
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>>158184861
>>158184897
>>158184957
Fuck off. The Discord hardly even fucking plays Bloodborne anymore, they shouldn't have any say in dickall. If the consensus throughout the thread says it's curtain call, that's different, but a handful of faggots shitposting should have no impact on anything.

Kindly consider offing yourself. I recommend a lot of alcohol and a bottle of sleeping pills.
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>>158184736
DELETE THIS
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But, alas, not too fast! The nightmare swirls and churns unending!
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>>158185025
>If the consensus throughout the thread says it's curtain call, that's different
>literally the entire end of last thread was people agreeing that it was over

???
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>>158185169
It's the middle of the night. Do you really think everyone that frequents here is awake at all hours? Are you actually braindead?
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Benjie, as the king of /bbg/, can you tell them to allow it to end, they refuse to listen to the council.
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Can you faggots shut up about /bbg/? Might as well call this //bbg/g/
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/bear_hug
First time playthrough, using 2 summons from chat for Amelia.
And a backwards baseball cap, gross
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>>158185418
SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PRO-LIFERS WIN?!?
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DARKS SOULS 3 DLC IS BLUNDER SO FALSE FLAGGERS ARE TRYING TO END BBG, THIS IS NOT A DRILL, IGNORE ALL POSTS WHO SAY BBG US OVER, REPORT FOR SPAM. I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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>>158185235
If you're saying you DON'T frequent here then you have no say in this matter.
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>>158185418
>waitin for a homie to join
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>Thinking you can actually kill /bbg/ with just a little bit of shitpost
Nigga, making a thread on 4chan takes like 20 seconds and absolutely anyone can do it, unless you got /bbg/ full on banned it's not going anywhere.
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Also report falseflagging shitposters, they're just as bad, maybe somehow even worse.
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>>158185337
This place is already known as /r/bbg
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>>158185949
New memes from the higher planes!
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>>158185418
He's in someone elses game in NG+ to farm echoes on a blind first time run.
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>>158185643
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>>158186025
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>>158187824
?
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>>158188186
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>>158180528
>OHB
Are you sure you're talking to the right person?
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>>158185553
How did you jump to that conclusion?
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>want to use chikage because bloodtinge sounds like a fun stat
>will have to deal with people calling me a no skill edgelord
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>>158190458
But that's precisely what Chikage users are, just embrace it.
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>there are people on /bbg/ that never managed to do this
Justify yourselves.
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>Nightmare Frontier
>poison pools and Frenzy Brains have drained all of my vials
>reach a clearing- obvious boss fight imminent
>imsofucked
>fucking Amygdala shows up, here goes nothing
>use Executioners gloves like 4 times
>dead cthuluspider
>mfw

Is Amygdala just massively weak to blows to the head or is it this easy for everybody?
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>>158190932
He is massively weak to blows to the head, but I've never seen someone killing him with only four gloves.
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>>158191013
Well it was very, very few casts. I was shocked at how quick it was
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>>158186025

>lucifer using crutch weapons to make up for the fact that he's fucking terrible at games

nothing new here, i guess.
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>>158191707
And even then he's too afraid to show up in FCs.
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>>158191246
so it wasn't 4, why say 4? how many bullets did you use? post the trophy screenshot
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>>158192574
>what is eaggeration
It was fewer than 10, sorry I didn't give you an exact count
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>>158191246
There's also a chance that you were above Amygdala's level, Nightmare Frontier is meant to be discovered before Cainhurst.
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Where do I get lower level gems for the bloodtinge build?
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>>158192795
it's not about being exact and it's not about "eaggeration"
you're just another faggot who wanted (you)s so you spout some bullshit
yeah, Amy's weak to headshots

fewer than 10 shots or fewer than 10 bullets? the gloves use 3 bullets a pop, so that means you shot 3 times (which is still wrong)

you were probably OP as fuck for the boss
stop being gay
bbg is dead
kill yourself
melt down melt down melt down
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>>158192960
Why are you still here then?
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>>158193027
you can't be this autistic, surely

anyways, stop with the shitposting alright
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>>158193094
I'm not shitposting, and I'm certainly not the one who's being autistic.
If you don't like /bbg/ you can leave whenever you want, nobody will miss you.
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>>158193209
I said stop shitposting you autistic creep
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>>158192885
>Nightmare Frontier is meant to be discovered before Cainhurst
I always do Cainhurst first. What's the recomended level for all the locations? Might do it by the guide just for the heck of it
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>>158193328
there's a wiki for those types of questions, chump
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>>158193328
There's no recommended level, but you can approximatively tell what's the best order to beat the bosses by seeing how much echoes they drop.
Both Forbidden Woods and Nightmare Frontier can be done at bl. 25-30.
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>>158193318
Are you the same guy who wanted to blame /bbg/ for his shitposting in the God of War general?
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>>158193519
no, just keep on topic
also, stop shitposting
and stop being gay
and also stop replying to me, especially when shitposting and being gay
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Anyone need help with anything? Wanna get them vermin.
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>>158193716
We can go spelunking in a random dungeon if you want.
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>>158193760
I'm only Bl 50 +8 Nothing too hard.
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>>158193846
No problem, I'll make a non-cursed dungeon.
You already know how it works right?
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>>158193846
Sorta. Grab short ritual search via passcode?
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>>158194017
You have to make a rotted/fetid dungeon yourself first, it's a requirement.
After making it you can send me glyph, getting summoned from the dungeon is faster than using short ritual.
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>>158194017
Hello?
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>>158194149
Well I gotten where you're up to yet so you'll have to Spelunk by yourself.
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>>158185483
Was it leaked or something?
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>>158196343
it's out early on consoles
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCajxJypE40&feature=youtu.be wtf O_o
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>out of ADD meds
>record myself playing
>literally a full half second slow on pretty much every action
>mfw

i hate being dependent on medication but this is fucking ridiculous
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>>158197994
Post it
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>>158198809
Rifle spear would be fine if it was a bit faster.
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At least shitpost a bit and dump your shit
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>>158199379
I forgot to save videos yesterday.
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>>158197397
God damn, this is so obvious

He put his PS4 pad down on a surface, the controller vibrated the L2/R2 buttons get that TINY BIT IT PRESSURE THEY NEED TO OPERATE and it swings

Howmany times I've put my controller down just for it to knock the trigger a tiny bit and it does something

There we are. Everyone can go home
No Ghosts. No Screamers. Just a simple reason for the uninitiated
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>>158199503
I know you're scared, but you must accept reality. It was a ghost.
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>>158199162
arcane gems, right?
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Is there something more satisfying than landing a R2?
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>>158199379
>using a gun makes you a fencing master
you suck, boo
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has anyone else noticed the glitch where if you bottom out your stamina and then sprint just when it begins to regenerate that you end up doing the sprinting animation but moving slowly and your stamina doesn't regen until you stop sprinting?
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How do I invest my stats for hybrid builds?

25/25?
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>>158200000
No, 25/50
Also nice zeroes
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Since I don't know these things.

If I have 50 STR/25 Arcane, is it worth transforming my HMLS +10 into the two-handed form? Or is arcane such a small part of that?
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>>158200264
All the physical attacks scale predominantly with str and skill, in both forms.
The beams are exclusively arcane.
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>>158200000
By Mother Kos, checked.
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>>158184889

Clearly le discord channel is backing him

The fact that you faggots started a discord channel is disgraceful
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>>158201964
what the hell is this discord bullshit I keep reading about

can't you faggots not be like reddit at all? is the infestation that bad?
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>>158201964
Nobody is backing anyone in the discord chat.
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>>158202223
It's just one dude falseflagging. Le cord is to lazy to shitpost.
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>>158202640

Anytime a voice channel gets started, it becomes rampant circlejerk for the few that joins it.

I wouldn't be surprised if they really did want to end the thread.
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So I just finished it today and it was okay, not worth $400 though.
Is OH any good?
Also, did people actually find Rom hard? I killed him after one death.
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>>158203151
If you paid $400 for a PS4 you got scammed, I bought mine for half the price.
The Old Hunters is a must buy, it's even better than the base game.
As for Rom, many people have trouble with it, but it's all about technique.
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>>158203401
AUD
Might as well
>technique
It requires technique to kill off the spiders a couple at a time?
wut
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>>158203594
Killing the spiders is a waste of time, you can finish the fight in two minutes if you leave them alone and have technique.
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Hi guys, can you show me an optimal gem setup for fire/bolt dmg? I cant play that much anymore and i want to grind the right ones
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>>158203784
"Optimal" is probably three 27.2%s from Watchers, but that's a retarded amount of RNG.

Easier to farm is one Cold Abyssal Radial, one Cold Abyssal Triangle, and one Fire/Bolt Abyssal Waning.
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>>158204054
Mmm why 2 abyssals? Just 1 is needed to pump the arc scaling from d to s in most weapons
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>>158204229
Because the letter scaling is basically irrelevant. For most weapons, the additional .65 of their base damage is more than the additional compounded 24%.
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>>158204054
not him, but are 3*27.2% really the optimal set up?
I've been craving something else since I have two sets but nothing seems to be stronger unless throw in 1 blunt/thrust gem up
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>>158205073
For skl-based phys damage, absolutely.

For str and arc when you can throw Abyssals into the mix, I honestly don't know. I have no intention of farming them so I've never done the math.
All I really know (and I wouldn't bet my life on it) is that two Cold Abyssals is typically better than two elemental Abyssals.
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>>158205295
I see

and off-shape gems are still like 1% of happening, right? for example 27.2% arcane radial from Isz fatsos
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>>158205721
Yeah, my understanding is that any gem dropping any time has about 1.5% of being an off-shape. The real problem is that Watchers' loot table is gargantuan, so aside from not getting the gem you want in an off-shape, you could kill them two-dozen times and not even get the gem you want at all.
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>>158205932
I got lucky when I farmed my 27.2% gems
I'm not bragging but I only spent 2 hours on 1 Sunday collecting them
I wouldn't like to chance my time grinding for 2, 27.2% radial arcane gems

do you think Bloodborne may get any new patches at any time? I suppose not really
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>>158206059
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>>158206059
Wow. Just, wow.

I'm literally impressed.
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>>158206130
How long did you took to gain 1 elemental triabgle fron them? Im at 30 tries and just 1 bolt and 1 arc
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>>158207640
Or more like, how long just it takes generaly to gain one elemental dorito from them
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>>158190458
>Actually giving a shit what others think of you
Use whatever you damn well want to use.
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Anyone up for NG+ Hemwick?
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>>158207640
>>158208174
it all depends on your luck m8
not in game luck, your luck

I must've spent a year's worth of luck in those 2 hours because since then, nothing good has happened to me
The Isz Fatsos will drop phys/arc/bolt/fire, you just need to be lucky because, remember, you gotta get a negative effect which isn't as bad as the others (durability or stamina)
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>>158206059
kek
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>>158190458
If bloodtinge sounds like a fun stat, you use the Bloodletter. Chikage is garbage for no-skill edgelords.
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anyone wanna help me through layers 3 and 4 in lower pthumeru? and then maybe Nightmare Frontier? lvl 56 and password is bbg1
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>>158213603
On my way.
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>>158210546
>durability or stamina
or Kin/Beast down
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>>158206228
I need more of this
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>>158217150
Look in a mirror.
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>>158214186
Ill be at Nightmare Frontier in 5 mins pal, quick coffee break.
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>>158217616
C-can I join?
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>>158217683
yeah sure! I'm always up for some jolly co-op!
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>>158217616
>>158217683
>>158218167
just gotta get through lecture building, give us a few mins guys.
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>>158218345
Sure thing, chilling at the Nightmare Frontier
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>>158218552
bully
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>>158199612
Normal 27% phys up
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You guys get that invader?
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is it possible to one-shot bosses in this game?
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>>158219626
I'm sure you can one-shot Celestial Emissary with a 32.6% (3) tricked Church Pick R2 with Bolt Paper.
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>>158219626
Onle ealry chalice bosses with oil urns and a fire converted weapon

Or uh 50blt with a canon a bone ash?
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>>158219626
99 arc, A Call Beyond
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>>158219626
yes
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>>158219809
That's not one shot...
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>>158219626
I'd say so, but not under any regular circumstances. I'd say, against the right boss, with a character with 99 in every stat, the right +10 weapon, Korean gems and the right elemental buff, you could probably take out deoth 1 chalice bosses no problem.
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>>158219626
>Get 50 skill + clawmark
>get into some dungeon with brainsucker as boss
>parry
>get visceral

Haven't tested though.
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>>158219898
but not at level 1 like in DS1 and definitely not every boss?
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>>158219330
yeah, we also cleared most of the frontier but i wanna go grab the stuff near the frenzy brain women before i kill amy. ringing in 2 mins, ill wait for you both.
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So uh

What exactly was the School of Mensis?
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>>158219986
Session lost there, dunno what happened
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Have any of you used the guidance ( + rally) runes in FCs? Is it good?
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>>158220214
A school in Yharnam
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>>158220214
A branch of the healing church that wantet to be like rom ( blessed with eyes), so they summoned an invisible baby to grant them wishes and fuse the waking world with nightmares
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>>158220214
They're one of the secret higher echelons of the Healing Church along with their rivals, The Choir.

Mensis is a continuation of old Byrgenwerth, who started this entire mess.
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>>158219980
Well, the chalices don't scale with NG+ cycles, so I'd say you could OHK them with the right set up, but base game stuff, I highly doubt it. Celestial Ayy can be killed very easily, in 4-5 hits, but I've never seen a OHK on it.
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BoM in pve was a mistake.
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>>158219626
12.2%+27% Poorman gems, full beasthood, and Stake Driver tricked charge r2 could one-shot some bosses.
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>>158220612
PvP was a mistake
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>>158220814
Gameplay was a mistake
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>>158220952
Games were a mistake
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>>158221067
Entertainment in general was a mistake
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>>158221197
Consciousness was a mistake
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>>158221318
Creation was a mistake
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>>158221318
Civilization was a mistake
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>>158221410
Needing to congregate into groups for survival was a mistake
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Why do some faggots remove that bloodborne pastebin from the dsg OP?
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>>158221670
'you' as in 'multicellular organism' was a mistake
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>>158221774
The photon epoch was a mistake
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>>158221821
Waves where a mistake
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>>158222091
Particles are pretty neat tho desu senpai
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>>158222091
Matter and antimatter particle annihilation was a mistake
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>>158190831
took me forever because i stagnated at the fiery workshop, I even marked out before the cutscene played so I wouldnt be able to enter it again without ending my game.

really didnt want it to end, and i hate NG+
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>>158191707
>scrub logic
People like you have been crying at my feet since DaS1 launched. I am still going to use good weapons, no matter what buzzword you are labeling them with today.
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>>158222196
Yeah, hopefully we can find the graviton sometime soon. We had gravitational waves discovered sometime in January, I think. LIGO detected them.

Seriously, all the forces of nature are covered except gravity.
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>>158222447
The effects are so pretty in Bloodborne, why ddintr they just copy paste that shit into das3?
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>>158222590
That one really is incredible.
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>>158222230
Particles where a mistake
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>>158222590
That's pretty
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>>158222415
>All the forces of nature are covered except gravity
what
It's 2016, don't we already know how that shit works or no
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>>158223171
Gehrman fucking up everything as always
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My love for you is like a truck
/bbg/
Would you like some dumping art
/bbg/
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>>158223764
Berseeerkeeer
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>>158223764
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>>158223764
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>>158223764
I'm increasing my (You) count!
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>>158223396
Not really. Not as extensively as we understand the other three forces of nature: the strong nuclear force, the electromagnetic force, and the weak nuclear force, otherwise just known as the weak force.

Basically, the extent of our knowledge of gravity is just that we can model it and observe its effects. But, nobody actually knows how it works in terms of elementary particles within particle physics.

Each of the the universal forces of nature in the Standard Model of Particle Physics has its own boson, a force-carrier particle that essentially makes all physical phenomena in the universe possible through interactions.

The strong nuclear force and its gluon boson basically prevent an atom's positively charged nucleus from blowing itself apart, because as we all know, opposites attract and likes repel. The SNF overrides the EM force, which is the second strongest force.

In other words, if it weren't for the SNF, we literally wouldn't be able to exist as beings made from an arrangement of complex molecules, because there would be nothing to hold us together.

The EM force dictates radiation and attraction/repulsion via charged particles. It's responsible for visible light, which is just a form of radiation produced by a photon, the EM boson, moving at a particular frequency.

The weak nuclear force is a bit more complicated, but in layman's terms, it's responsible for another form of radiation: beta radiation. Its bosons are the W and Z bosons, otherwise just known as the intermediate vector bosons.

The graviational force has no boson that we know of yet. It's literally the weakest of the four forces, so weak that you can surpass for a few seconds by jumping in the air. We think that because it's so weak, we can't detect its theoretical graviton.

Another cool theory is that the gravitational force is spread throughout different dimensions, explaining why it's so weak. Think of it like surface area and density.
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>>158223764
Here I go again!
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>>158223764
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>>158223764
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>>158222447
And there's meself, hacking away like a madman with my 8 end, into Larry's leathery pelvis
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>>158223764
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>>158224216
>different dimensions
You're going into some sci-fi shit there, doc
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Goddamn bb has some nice art.
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>>158224216
I wish I could understand half of what you said, it sounds fucking cool, but I took literal retard maths in school.
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>>158225324
no
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>>158225495
Then what do you call THIS
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>>158223764
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>>158225281
A lot of science beyond your standard physics gets theoretical as fuck, senpai. Even now with all the advancements we've made, we humans really only have just a tiny grasp of the universe and how it works.

For example, dark matter. We can't explain that shit. We discovered it when we realized that the Coma galaxy cluster was spinning at such a tremendous velocity for a galaxy with such little visible mass, so that's where we realized that there is more matter than meets the eye. Literal invisible matter. Dark matter. All we know is that it interacts with gravity and that's about it. Nobody knows how it came to be, or if it even interacts with other forces.

It gets even crazier when you get into the shape of the universe. We know Newton's idea of the shape of the universe can't possibly be because it wouldn't work in terms of gravity. People have argued that the universe is euclidean, that it's flat, or that it's like a sphere. We KNOW the universe is expanding, but is time also expanding with it?

Some of this is just so far beyond human, mathematical, and scientific comprehension that we might never find out for certain.
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>>158196559
PS4 too? thought it was xbone only
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>>158222447
>that grey blood
They squish the slugs?!
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>>158225902
weird
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>>158224216
An A press is an A press, anon, you can't say it's only a half.
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>>158225429
Ah it's all about enjoying it, anon. The funny thing is that scientists can barely understand it all themselves, that's why we can't explain all the phenomena in the universe. It's also why it's so theoretical.

If you want to know something incredibly interesting about it, read up on the matter antimatter imbalance. You know how matter and antimatter annihilate each other on contact?

Basically, in the beginning of the universe, the two began annihilating each other, producing pure energy. The thing is that matter and antimatter are always produced in pairs, and logically there should have been an equal amount of both in the universe and they should have destroyed each other. But, there was an imbalance and nobody can explain it.

There just so happened to be an absolutely minuscule amount of more matter than antimatter. Just that tiny bit, could have literally been just 1 billion antimatter to 1 billion and 1 matter. But it's because that imbalance that we exist today. That tiny imbalance meant that some matter survived and went on to produce us, planets, everything you can see at this moment.

It's fucking amazing. If it weren't for that imbalance, we wouldn't be. All matter would have been destroyed. But it survived thanks to that coincidence.
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>tfw I keep losing all these FC because I don't have ps+ anymore

>tfw I can't even farm bloodgem to upgrade my new builds because I can't use glyphs
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>>158227828
>tfw humans are the luckiest organisms in the multiverse
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>>158227828
I thought that was due to matter and antimatter becoming separated
i.e. there are matter galaxies and there are antimatter galaxies, we just happen to live in a matter one
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Is there a way to kill the Church Pick Hunter through the locked door? I use the whips and torch to kill the brainsucker behind the locked door in Upper Cathedral Ward for the orphanage key. I can't find a way to steal the Church Pick early.
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>>158228943
Charged triked kirkhammer or lhs?
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>>158228543
It's possible, but 99.9% unlikely. Because there's so much matter in the universe, an antimatter galaxy would be annihilated as soon as a single matter particle came into contact with it.

It just wouldn't be able to survive. Back in the early microseconds of the universe, matter and antimatter were produced, or should have been produced, in equal pairs.
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>>158228943
Anon, even if you did kill him early you would never be able to reach the Church Pick.
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>>158229274
IIRC it gets put directly into your inventory.

>>158228943
As far as I know, no. However, the game gives you four Blue Elixirs at the start of Research Hall wich is more than enough to dash to the key. After that you can attack the hunter through the door, and if/when he finds his way out, you can run back to Underground Corpse Pile, since he leashes in the hallway, whereupon he will walk back towards his cell and stop with his back to you.
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Why can't you save Gascoigne's elder daughter?
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>>158230163
Miyazaki has a thing for the Hedgehog's Dilemma.
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>>158231729
cute trap
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>>158232393
not as cute as this semon demon
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>>158232702
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>>158232941
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>guys, Blood Starved Beast turned out to be too much fun, what should we do?
>I know, add some poison that completely ruins the fight in the third stage for no reason
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>>158233085
BSB would be lame even without the poison
At least it makes sense thematically since the beasts of Old Yharnam have ashen blood
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>>158222590
What the hell is even happening here?
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>>158233728
Sometimes when you kill the Living Failures a unit spawns at the end of the battle and follows you around. They can enter Maria's zone too.
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>>158233728
There's this bug where a Living Failure stays alive even after the boss fight is over. You can lead him into the Lady Maria fight and end up fighting both of them at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id8yxMZfghE
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>>158233085
>complaining about BSB's poison
>being this bad or just a douche
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where the fuck does Gehrman keep vanishing to
he's very rarely in the workshop building, and I can't seem to find him out in the graveyard anywhere
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>>158235381
Sometimes he's behind the building, sometimes he's nowhere to be found.
Maybe he goes to the zone where you fight him.
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>>158235381
>dude's eternally trapped in the Dream
>almost never in the Dream
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Anyone need help with anything? Co-op through an area? A boss or two? Kinda bored.
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>>158236679
>Kinda bored
try playing bloodborne
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>>158238219
>>158238219
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>>158237902
Been playing it all day, random SSRC co-op was getting bland, just wanted to know if anyone needed any help
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>>158238219
mesmerizing
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does the night start once you beat Amelia or only when you touch the skull?
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>>158240237
When you touch the skull.
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>>158238219
Melting Larry with A Call Beyond was great.
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>>158240609
Such a magical tool


Where DO slug tools come from? Do they explode from the head of the dudes exposed to insight?
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>>158238325
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>>158242442
huh. I wonder if it registered the damage from both viscerals? He had too little health to tell.
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>>158241673
I'm pretty sure most of the tools have their origins in Isz.
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>>158241673
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This pretty well summarizes last night.
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>accessories only apply to the stump messengers
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>>158243573
EG spam and phantom range nonsense?
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>>158243612
What?

They apply to all the messages you leave too.
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>>158244239
The ones that appear under the lanterns also get the hats
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anybody want to do coop nightmare of mensis? BL56 ringing at first lamp password bbg
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>>158242741
>ebrietas shits her own augur

Nice
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>>158245289
Sure thing, just gotta boot up my famicon.
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>>158244102
Mostly the phantom range, yeah. Unzips and Wheel dashes are ridiculous.
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>>158245679
still ringing :3
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Will there be a FC next week
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>>158246473
Probably not.
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>>158245679
Ill change my vileblood rune
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>>158246517

But I want to make a new pvp character
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>>158246805
Do it anyways.
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>>158246791
ringing again
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>>158246941

I'll just play Ashes first and pop back in here after two weeks I guess.
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>>158242565
It registers both viscerals.
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>>158246996
>I'll just play Ashes

For what purpose?
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>>158246473
Yes
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>>158247060

Something new to do.
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>>158223764
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>>158245679
hey Im sorry im so bad right now if you're tired of me dying it's totally cool
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>>158247480
>>158245289

Still doing Mensis? I can get a character in for the added fun
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>>158247214
>rehashed level
>reused assets
>MEMBER ARIAMIS GAIZ
>2 hours worth of content
>same price as TOH
>something new
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>>158247645
>2 hours worth of content

Oh Christ are you for real?
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>>158247645

Yea, it's something new. I'll do mor BB after I'm done with it.
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>>158247480
and im out of bloodvials. im gonna have to take a break to farm some, sorry about that
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>>158247480
It's cool.

Are you ringing at the second lantern, now?
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>>158247851
Even DSP finished it in less than 4 hours
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>>158248324
I bet ItsTheKellys could even manage to do it in under 10.
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What do 25 Str / 50 Skil builds use besides pure Skill weapons
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>>158184736
Post music that fits with Bloodborne. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JoxISdBzmY
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>>158190932
She(?) has low health for a boss.
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Ebrietas anyone? Ringing at fog, pass bbg
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>>158249109
Booting up
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>>158249109
I'm in.
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>>158235381
Eating prunes.
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So are nightmares different plains of reality, or simply different physical locations within the great sea of the cosmos? Is Yharnam just another kind of "nightmare"?
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I found Ludwig in JoJo
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>>158233085
You're complaining about the small aoe buildup when in his second phase 1 normal attack fills up 90% of your slow poison bar?
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>>158249639
>Is Yharnam just another kind of "nightmare"?
It's the actual reality, but I think it was built around some eldritch mojo.
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>>158248640
Ludwig Blade, maybe the Holy Moonlight Sword if you have 15-25 Arc. Less optimal than 50/25/15+ but it's still usable. 25 Strength just adds a bit more AR to a few Skill weapons like the Burial Blade mostly.
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Disturbingly fast.

Doing Amy at Frontier too ringing at fog. Pass bbg
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whats the biggest first timer mistake? i just fixed a ps4 and got this game.

i beat the first two bosses, have only told viola about the church (not the clinic) and gilbert gave me a flamenwarfer.

how do proceed? i want to fight everything and then get the best ending with the umbilical cords from SH4
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>>158249832
Speaking of it, why does Amygdala put the Lesser versions of itself out? Does it need to see what the Chapel dweller and friends do in there?
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>>158249762

Doesn't Ludwig's Memeblade scale equally. So no difference between 25/50 or 50/25
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>>158249639
Maybe both of the former. I think it's all layers, anyway. Different layers of realities all piled up on and around each other in ways that don't necessarily make perfect sense. The Hunter's Dream seems to be on the very bottom, Yharnam and the 'waking world' sandwiched between places like the Frontier and Mensis and Hunter's Nightmare. It's not super clear.

I'm pretty sure Yharnam and the 'waking world' is a separate dimension, but around all these other places. It's fucking alien space magic.
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>>158249886
Kill the Beggar. He's a loony.
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>>158249886
Leveling too much Endurance. You could deal with base End but for first timers 15-20 with a Stam Rune is enough. First softcap for weapons is 25, the second is 50.
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>>158249886

Don't pump endurance over 20.

Other than that, don't overthink on builds on yo firs character and just have fun.
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>>158250074
Yeah, but 50 Strength has Heavy Abyssals and slotting one gives it a bit more AR. HMS has a B in Strength and C in Skill iirc, so there will be a difference for that.
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>>158249886
I missed Hemwich and went through the whole game without runes.
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Mensis, you madman.

How many points in Arc is that.
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>>158250237
>>158250246
softcaps are a big deal but i heard the upper levels had a major rework after some DLC (which i plan to buy), is there anything worth grinding for?
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>>158250479
Lvl 30 Str. You can use a cannon.
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>>158250456
99
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Where do I grind Ritual Blood 4
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>>158250479
50 Strength got better Heavy Abyssal gems which help add a bit more AR to Strength weapons and convert most Skill weapons into Strength/Quality weapons. 50+ Arcane got better Cold Abyssals which increase Arcane scaling for more AR and going over 50 is great for Hunter Tools. 99 Arcane builds are pretty devastating.
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>>158250676
Sackmen in Lower Pthumarian

Between the first and second lantern take the right into the side room with the ladder, run straight until you get to the bridge room and there'll be one chilling at the bottom, kill him, climb back up, run down to other hallway, and you'll get into a big open room with another one walking around. After you kill them both bold hunters mark back to the lantern and keep going until you have how many you need.

Honestly Ritual Blood 4 farming is the worst part of the chalice dungeons.
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Okay here's my dilemma. I made a SKL character and I'm really not liking the moveset on the threaded cane. I realize scaling doesn't mean much where I'm at (just beat BSB and am going to kill amelia next) but id like to use a more "skill like" weapon just for like roleplay purposes. I don't want to kill eileen either as i want to finish her quest. Am i best off running into the DLC to get one of those weapons?
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>>158248747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLFsa1sYiA
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>>158250917
Beasthunter Saif right after Amelia is bretty gud. Saw Spear is good enough too.
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>>158250917
You don't really get any skill weapons in the DLC until the Hamlet so that would be kind of a moot point, just use a saw and get the blade of mercy right after Rom.
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>>158250917
>I don't want to kill eileen either as i want to finish her quest.
Did you kill Henryk? This is important to keeping that old bird sane.
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>>158250917
Saw Spear if you don't give a fuck about having a bland moveset and just want to melt everything. Saif if you want a little style.
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>>158248270
Did you get those vials, m8?
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>>158245679
>just gotta boot up my famicon.
You know that that's a joke for multiplat games when the person doesn't list their platform, right?
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>>158251152
>You don't really get any skill weapons in the DLC until the Hamlet
Saif is before even Ludwig. If you take him out then you can get the Church Pick if you jump off the balcony to get the key early.
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>>158200264
>drakenposting

I see this a lot in here and /dsg/, is there a reason?
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>Use a bunch of bullets
>Beckoner dies at the last second
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>>158251418
>not having 600 bullets in storage at all times
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>>158250910

What layer, 2?
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>>158251503
>Cheating to get bullets on a new character.
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>>158251306
>what if he meant the PC version?
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>>158251575
Who said anything about cheating?
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>Time for random SRRC!
>50% Defiled Amygdala
>45% early Pthumeru chalices
>5% FRC dungeons
I wish I could filter this to receive only FRC dungeons.
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>>158251192
I did kill him, and she lived. And didn't aggro me.
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>>158251648
>Implying it's possible to have 600 bullets on a new character.
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>>158251418
>>158251575
This is why you use own blood to have five extra boolet, Ivan.
>>158251745
Good. Then you helped an old woman keep her sanity.
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>>158251739
>BL100
>27.2 gems all around
>60% depth 1-3 garbage
>20% Defiled Amy
>15% Defiled Hotdog
>5% FRC

It's absolutely maddening.
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>>158251418
I hate that you don't get your shit restocked after co-op.
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>>158251790
>being a new character
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>>158250427
this is the type of stuff i want to know

>>158250438
where is he? this sounds like something i would do

>>158250551
awesome thank you

>>158250832
thank you>>158250832
a 99 arcane build you say?

i just killed the pig and got the red messenger ribbon, i wanna make sure i dont get the people killed and fight the beggar. i talked to eileen the crow, shes still there after gasiogne fight.

>isnt there something special to do dressed as gasciogne?
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>>158251739
>>158251867
By the time I even get an FRC I'm so braindead from all the pthumeru trash that I get distracted and some trash mob OHKOs me.
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>>158250917
thread hijacked

in other news WTF weapon should i be using now? i dont even know what yall are talking about
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>>158252443
Church Pick
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>>158251505
I mean the very first lantern in the whole dungeon, layer 1
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>>158252272
>awesome thank you
Be aware that it uses 12 boolet per shot. But it is a cannon. If you have it and not use it, it's wasteful.
>i just killed the pig and got the red messenger ribbon, i wanna make sure i dont get the people killed and fight the beggar.
Well you just fed a piece of bacon Gascoigne's daughter. Don't feel too bad that you just sent his older daughter to a suicidal depression because you did. Thankfully death by bacon is better than what happened if you sent her to the clinic.
>>158252443
Saw Cleaver. It's reliable, and can be very good when buffed right.
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>>158252272
>where is he?
It's not a he, it's an entire area just left of the great church you fight Vicar Amelia in
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>>158252345
>When you desperately try to use the Wait gesture to stop the host from running into that Loran room with two bell women, red spiders, and two scourge beasts but he runs in anyways and dies
I always feel guilty about this.
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>>158253221
I've been in that exact situation on more than one occasion, spamming Wait in front of the door and pointing back down the stairs. He didn't listen. I let him die.

He deserved it.
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>>158252272
99 Arcane is fun for Hunter Tools but gemming your weapons will be a grind compared to Physical builds. Early Fire gems and DLC Bolt gems will be enough for NG PvE but for PvP and higher NG cycles you'll want Chalice Dungeon gems, which is a long way.

Wearing Church Armor like Gascan's can change some NPC encounters, I can only remember two instances though.
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>Church Pick doesn't stunlocks the Winter Lanterns

Wh-what do I use as Skill then?
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>>158254137
parry and one shot them?
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>>158254137
Saw Spear r1, l1, l1, etc
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How come Cleric Beasts aren't more common in the game? Lack of clerics to go beast?
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>When a random sends you "Thnx sir" after you help them
This is cute.
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Does anybody have that concept art of the hunter with the flail?
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>>158254596
Yeah you'd think they'd shit those out in chalice dungeons but I guess they're just too big
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>>158254598
>When the guy you just killed sent you a message, but instead of hatemail it's a compliment
Why are you being so nice to me?
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>>158254596
Imagine random Cleric Beast encounters, that'd be fuckin sick
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whats the cheapest way to get playstation plus?
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>>158254634
>we will never get this
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>>158254787
Whatever happend to that boss rush chalice they wrote about in the guide?
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>>158254634
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>>158252272
also, don't save up too many blood echos if you can help it. this game will kill you when you least expect it so try to spend your echos whenever you have enough for one or two levelups and spend the leftovers on bloodvials. (you'll have more than enough bullets later on in the game).
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>>158254598
>>158254801
This is why scrubs shouldn't be using Online ID.
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>>158254787
Isn't Amygdala and Rom chalice bosses too? Spider A and Rom, eldritch beings beyond human compression are chalice bosses but a beast that used to be a priest/Church Hunter isn't happening? Makes sense. Brandor managed to kill one in its manlet stage, so why couldn't we kill the manlet ones?
>>158255007
We'd prove it's better to be a priest than a beast.
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>>158255163
Thanks and one thing that bothers me a lot is there isn't even a flail in fucking dark souls, like cmon miyazaki a medieval fantasy game without flails...
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>>158255268
man, with how good the armor sets look I kind of wish From would let us have more customization on individual pieces.
LIke I would wear the fuck out of that crowfeather set without the cape and the hat
also
>cape slot
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>>158255161
Subscribe per month. I dunno how much it is in the US, but it's €6.99 in Yuroland and it's a pretty manageable sum you can cancel at any time instead of €50 at once. I wouldn't want to spend that and then find something happens that stops me using for half the year or something.
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>>158255454
ehh I feel like the beast cutter's already kind of how a flail's moveset would be implemented in Souls
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>>158255163
is that in a game informer?
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>>158255598
Damn why have I never thought of the beast cutter as a flail...
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>>158255454
But anon, the DLC added a flail (that's really just a whip)
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>>158255574
>tfw a friend of mine is fighting cancer
I can't imagine what it'd be like to be unsure whether or not you will survive another year

I feel for him so much I wish I could bring some Yharnam blood to fix him right up
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>>158255598
It's more of a lovechild of the Saw Cleaver and Threaded Cane to me. I hate to see Ludwig's more brutal reject weapons.
>Alright, folks, Ludwig here with the latest in beast slaying weaponry. Here's how this beauty works. You sneak up on the beast, jam this syringe-bayonet into the beast's back, and then this watch as the the parts made out of things men were not meant to know turns it into acidic bullets!
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>>158255761
on top of that it just uses the club moveset.
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>>158255761
(that's really just a reinforce club "moveset)

(that's really a catalyst for worthless miracles)

(that scales with fucking STR and FAI)
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>>158255815
Whoof, that's rough m8, I hope he pulls through okay
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>>158255761
It's not even a fucking flail, it's a scourge whip for flagellation

THIS is a fucking flail
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>>158255974
Valorheart was the only actually good weapon in the DLC honestly, everything else is gonna be the next Farron UGS
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>>158255925
that would be pretty cool I could see it being a fast weapon with delayed damage. could even be effective for crowd control if you fill an enemy with enough bullets to create an explosion

I kind of want to see a sort of shovel that transforms into a double-sided battle axe. Like the blade of the shovel will split in two to form the two sides of the axe, and then you extend it like the hunter's axe at the same time.
you get thrust/slash and maybe even blunt with some shovel bashes in shovel form and heavy hitting swings with the battle-axe form
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>>158250575
>99
94

I hate waking up.
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>>158257723
I just want a curved great sword
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>>158257912
So, Skill Ludwig's?

Really?
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>>158258007
Curved Great Swords and Great Axes are the only weapon classes not in the game.
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>>158257692
>everything else is gonna be the next Farron UGS
So everything else is good?
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>>158258289
Maybe for the 0.0000001% of people who don't just spam L1 over and over again.
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>>158258270
untricked Saif is basically the Murakumo moveset.
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>>158258398
Funsword's L1s are actually good though.

(This webm isn't the best representative of it)
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>>158258270
No, I mean, you just want sword that turns into Big Sword? Doesn't do anything? Even the HMLS gains different damage and lasers.
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>>158258567
On release they were, but now pretty much everyone knows how to parry or backstab them.
Curved Wolf Greatsword is better
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>>158258647
I've only been BS'd out of an L1 once, and I haven't had one parried since I first picked it up.

I think most people don't know about the free-aim option.
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>>158258612
Yeah, sure, why not? I mean the moveset would obviously be different compared to Ludwig's.
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what's the better amy arm?
normal, uncanny or lost?
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>>158258858
Damn it be creative nigger
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>>158259078
The same as literally every other weapon:
The one you have the gems for.
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>>158259078
They're all total shit, in PvE and PVP. Just pick the RRT one and ignore the arc damage.
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>>158259132
Yeesh, fine, creative enough for ya?
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Anime as fuck.
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>>158259282
>amy arm
>not one of the most fun weapons in the entire game
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>>158259443
It is and I love it, but the damage output is pathetic.
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>>158259398
YES
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>>158254787
you know I'm kinda surprised that we never fight a Scourge Beast as a boss in the CD's, considering things like the pigs can be bosses, also surprised there isn't a Shadows of Yharnam fight in the Chalice Dungeons either
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>>158259780
It would have been cool if the fight with Queen Yharnam has a trio of Shadows with her, and it would spawn new ones whenever she teleported instead of clones of herself.
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>>158257723
>that would be pretty cool I could see it being a fast weapon with delayed damage. could even be effective for crowd control if you fill an enemy with enough bullets to create an explosion
Well thanks for thinking so. I'm surprised there isn't a weapon where you can use an enemy's own blood against them. The Church must have thought using beast blood against beasts was heresy, or considering some of the Old Hunters' weapons it wasn't popular.
>>158259398
Don't lose your way, Anon.
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>>158259398
Noice
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>>158261442
A scissorman cosplay would be so fucking cool

>chasing shitters around with a giant pair of scissors
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>People think Miyazaki is against twinking
>He puts in a weapon that would be ungodly difficult to obtain for a twink, but makes it one of the best anti-gank weapons in the game
I just wish there were still a ton of people co-oping, Kos Parasite was so fun to use against shitters.
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>just started using reiterspallach
i'd never thought that thrusty pokey attacks could be so fun and stylish

are there any other secretly fun weapons? I've tried BoM and rakuyo on my skill character already
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Am Level 150 on two characters, will I still be able to PVP with you guys?
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>>158263707
Amygdalan Arm

Subpar damage, but good range and regain, neat moveset and the R2 deals two hits in one go, charging it adds a third.
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>>158263892
Nigga, we invented the BL98-117 meta's specifically to avoid BL150 shitters, you'll get some summons from the few people who went to BL120 but you're gonna spend a lot of time in the FC just sitting around.
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>>158263707
Rifle Spear and Bowblade maybe. Tricked Saw Cleaver has fun r2 strings that are kinda secret.
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>>158263707
Vanilla beast claws, they're my personal favourite weapons and almost no one uses them.
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>>158264078

I see,damn. Feeling kinda lazy to do chalice dungeons all over again, already did it on 3 characters, and the only one who is level 100 is a bloodtinge build,which means shitterkage. Thanks though.
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>>158264078
>117
>Avoiding 150s

???

>>158263892
A decent chunk of /bbg/ is level 98, which is just barely out of range to invade 150. You'll still get people that leveled to 100, and you'll get the 117 shitters, but you'll miss out on a fairly large portion of the community here.

Just make a new character and don't level so high if you care that much, it's not that hard. Hell, you'd probably be able to get people to run the game with you if you asked.
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>>158264347
Use the Bloodletter instead, only has a 14 Strength requirement and doesn't drain health.
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>>158264347
Don't feel too bad about using the Chicago in the FC, like 3-4 of our regulars use it (most of them just spam the unzip over and over again)
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>>158264078

120 is the best anyway. Allows for some mistakes.
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>>158264429
Oh that's true,I have it upgraded to 10, it's just that I fear I'll get bored just using one weapon, I'll guess I'll try it tho.
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>>158264375
Sorry, I kind of forgot that BL117 was invent because it was the highest you could go while still invading 98's.
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>>158263707
Amy Arm.

Damage is god awful, so if you already have a Str build with gems try it out there instead of trying to build it up through the game, but the wacky moveset and squishy noises are a blast.
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>>158264649
Make a 50/25 str/skl build then, hard to get bored when you have 20 weapons at your disposal
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120 will always be the best level meta, if it wasn't for Lucy and his personal whores everyone will be using that level meta instead of the meme level.


t. Someone that made 10 builds all on level 120 before the meme level even existed and was too lazy to make the chalices all over again.


I do think that 120 is superior tho, don't be afraid of 150 redditors, embrace them.
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>>158264649
That's the downside of Blt, very few right-hand options to use. You could just use it for most of the fight and then switch to either the Bowblade or Chikage for a bit more diversity. Getting 28 Strength for the Gatling Gun and Church Cannon also means you'll do okay damage with untricked Bloodletter.
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>>158264818

What origin is your character? I might just do that.
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>>158264950
Nah, as far as non-meme meta's went 100 was the best, high enough to make a distinct build but low enough that you had to make sacrifices.
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>>158265080
I was using cruel fate so I could get muh arc up to 15 easy, the being said my build is all sorts or unoptimized so if you don't care about hunters tools I'd recommend going mil vet and pumping up your vit and str to 50 (taking the extra 10 points from end so you have only 10, an anti-clockwise is better anyway)
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>>158264950
The only reason people level to 98 is because they'd be 100 if it didn't mean missing the level 80 meta. No memes about it. Dodging 150 shitters is just a bonus, and besides, it's not like there's a shortage of level 140~ scrubs to stomp.
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>>158265358

I see,also unrelated to the build itself, what Runes should I be good using on pvp? Two clockwises and one anti-clockwise?
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>>158265521
Build dependent, one clockwise is a must for pretty much everyone, after that you could go with one anti-clockwise and another clockwise if you're more melee oriented, replace the second clockwise with a clawmark if you like parrying, replace both the second clockwise and anti-clockwise with two formless oedons if you're a caster build, and so on.
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>>158265749
Clawmark should never be necessary because if you're doing a visceral instead of an R2 or BMA shot then you're probably a SKL build and will OHKO them anyways with the visceral.
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>>158265896
>Using BMA in the FC
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>>158266024
>he thinks all PvP == a dead FC

99% of PvP is against vial-spamming shitters.
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>>158266024
>fc babbys banning bma because they don't know how to dodge bullets
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>>158266112
>Fighting Mensis shitters
Why would you do this to yourself?
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>Bloodtinge
>Arcane

How are you supposed to make a build based on these? Are you seriously going to lie to me and say that you beat the game using the flamethrower or shooting bosses to death?
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>>158266252
>only doing PvP for a few hours once a week, sometimes biweekly
Why would you do this to yourself?
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>>158266265
Nigga, arc is fucking easy mode if you know how to use it
Kill Gascoigne > Get flame sprayer > Go to Old Yharnam > Kill BSB > Start up a chalice dungeon > Kill undead giant > From the lantern after undead giant run into the dark room on the left and kill the flaming weapon mobs that drop from the ceiling until they drop 10% fire gems > Put fire gems on your saw cleaver > Absolutely fucking melt every boss in the game
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>Spend a few hours trying to stop shitters from suiciding on bosses for Vermin
>Masters Iron Helm removes the cool collar of the Tomb Prospectors Garb
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>>158251379

They are kind of similar thematically, and tend to draw the same crowd. Not to mention the fact that Taro and Miyazaki are personal friends.
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Been in the pvp chalice for 10 minutes,no one around. Anyone wanna join? I'm bl105
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>>158267125
hizzngr3 or one of ours? Former is pretty dead. We mainly FC on Saturdays but you could call for an Impromptu anytime in the thread, though I'm not sure you'll get much in these hours.
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>>158267475

hizzngr3,no one showed up, Imma try the pthumeru fc chalice,if anyone wanna join me, I never really pvp'd too much on bb,so I wanna try it out.
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>>158267730
If you don't get anyone, Frontier and Mergo's Loft are really your only options.
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Ugh I keep seeing phantoms around me but no one gets summoned.
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>>158268348
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Got a summon/summoned two times, thanks for joining if you're here anon.
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>>158269182
Are there only four people in here?
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>>158269820

Only one, we are getting summoned to each other.
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>>158269820
>>158269962

... I just now understood that you meant the thread.
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>>158269820
>>158270114

I'm here but i suck at pvp so im just pve-ing
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>>158270114
I meant the dungeon, but the thread is a little slow.
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>>158270331
It's the middle of the night on a Sunday. What did you expect, really?
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So what are you up to /bbg/?

I'm stomping Orphan for randoms while working on an art project in the downtime. If you need to commission either of my talents, contact me at 1-800-FUCKORPHAN. I'll be here for a coupla hours.
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>>158270587
can you draw the doll neatly stacking the books that the hunter always knocks over in the workshop?
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>>158270793
>Nothing actually resets itself
>It just up to the doll/citizens to constantly clean up the hunters mess when he goes away
>Carpentry is the single most in demand job in Yharnam, narrowly beating dry cleaning
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>>158270793
Here's a lazy 20 or so minute thing from between Orphan kills. Might do more, but probably not.
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>>158273349
Noice
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>>158273349
Neat!
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>>158273349

Absolutely cute
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>>158270587
Can you draw father gas coin for me? He's my favorite character.
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FUCK these fucking bell ladies and their FUCKING spiders
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Does the crow of cainhurst stop embracing the edge once he gets to a low enough level of health?
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>>158275484
Yeah, he doesn't transform at like 1/3 or lower
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>>158273349
speaking of the Doll, just started a new game, and I just noticed that when it's inactive before you get Insight for the first time, it does the finger tap that the Abandoned Workshop doll does(which I'm guessing means that that particular animation was made for the Dream Doll, and it just ended up in the Waking World Doll due to them being lazy and not bothering turning it off for that one)
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I heard You can find Gehrman in the dream when he isn't in the workshop, I've wandered around everywhere but never found where he hides. Where is he?
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>>158276874
Around the back, to the left as you head to the building from the chalice gravestones. But only sometimes. The rest of the time he's probably in the locked area
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Are there any nourshing gems you can get for the HMS pre-end game chalice dungeons?

I know there's one in Mergo's loft but I don't think Winter Lanterns drop them at all and there isn't a good listing for non-korean gems.
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Will HMLS benefit more from Physical up gems than arcane, even if I have 90 ARC?
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>>158264478
>120 is the best anyway
Says all shitters.
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Gas', I'm already a beast.
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>Burial Blade and Saw Spear transform attacks
Fuckin love it m8
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What is the exact time frame from Yharnam during the time of the Old Hunters to the the current Yharnam? I'd imagine the Vilebloods got removed on Laurance's orders, but Alfred doesn't seem too old. The fact that the still living Old Hunters we encounter aren't in wheelchairs besides Gerhman gives me an estimate of 50-70 years.
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>>158278716
To my knowledge, there's the 15% radial that you're aware of, a 9% triangle in the poison pits between Woods and Iosefka's, and then Rom in layer 3 of Lower Pthumeru can drop, I believe, 10.6%.
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>>158289804
>and then Rom in layer 3 of Lower Pthumeru can drop, I believe, 10.6%
Radials, whatever the % is.
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>have this insatiable urge to play BB these days

Why did it have to be during the game's twilight? I wish I played more earlier in the year
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>>158287073

You have to take into account that The Old Hunters is also an amalgamation of different memories clashing together, melding the world you know, with memories from other hunters. There isn't a distinct timeline, because there's not meant to be one. The only 'real' place through-and-through I would think, is the Hamlet. The rest are most likely just bastardized and/or glorified versions of their real locations.

But that's just my interpretation.
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>>158290895
>The rest are most likely just bastardized and/or glorified versions of their real locations.
That could explain the river of blood in the Hunter's Nightmare. If that's the case then why isn't there more burning Old Yharnam? Surely there would be dozens of Powder Kegs shaping the place with their memories.
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>>158259078
Normal
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>>158290609
You know you can still play it, right? There is still very much regular online activity. Just play it.
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>>158259256
Using optimal gems for your weapons is better than upgrading a random weapon and slapping whatever you have on it.
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>>158266616
It just folds it
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>>158291454
No, the nightmare was exclusively shaped by Maria's memories, which is the host.
She wasn't part of the Old Yharnam incident.
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>>158292368
My mistake, Anon.
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>>158266469
Isn't killing watchdog twice better than farming the guys with the axe?
He will always drop a fire gem.
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>>158294520
Yeah, but that requires killing watchdog twice at a low level, easier to just farm them.
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you guys want a slice?
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>>158294792
That pizza looks terrible.
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>>158292130
>he thinks I'm not talking about end-game gems

I could by your image that were stupid, but come on.
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how much fun is the steak dinner to use?
i kinda want to play bloodborne again but ive done pretty much everything that im interested in except that and the bow thing
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>>158292130
Holy shit you enormous dumbass.
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>>158295774
It can be pretty fun.
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>>158295876
fuck it, i want to try it
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>>158295656
Even then getting specific gems for your weapon is better than going for the best in your inventory.
Church pick with perfect thrust gems > Church pick with perfect physical gems
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>>158295995
You are literally too stupid to insult.
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>>158295995
Here's a true example:
>farming for 27.2 gems from watchers
>A perfect waning off-shape drops
>rather than waste it, I buy a Lost version of my weapon so I can use it

Consider lobotomization
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>page 10
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>>158298667
we have to survive till ps4pro release for a mass influx of players
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Did someone day KOSM????
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>>158298890
>implying that will change shit
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>>158298667
Monday afternoon, it's fine

Still morning for Americans, right?
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>>158298890
Nobody will buy that shit
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Am I the only one that prefers BoM over the Rakuyo?
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>>158292368

[citation needed]
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>>158295092

As a person from the Nordic countries, that pizza looks fucking delicious.
We only have flat crust shit here.
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>>158295774

If you put thrusting gems on it, with 50 str and then dash R1 someone, that can literally one-shot them if they try to attack you.
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>>158217218
too spoopy 4 me
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Anyone wanna tag along through mensis? I'd love some company. Pass is 'bbg1' and im ringing at mergos loft base.
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>>158301707
omw
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>>158222542
coz they knew it wouldn't be worth it for such a ____ game
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>>158301898
next area? ringing now.
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>tomb prospector set clips through the cage

I just wanted the perfect 'raving cultist' look.
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>>158302726
>>158301898
I'm helping a friend now, thanks pal.
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>>158223764
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>>158223764
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>>158299503
>Am I the only one

How to spot a millennial
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>>158306219
>your post
>how to spot a gen xer

Or God forbid a baby boomer.
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>>158259573
>he doesn't mix up weak tricked form with higher burst dmg untricked form
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>>158306219
are you saying you're like 40 years old anon
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At roughly BL100, what are some good locations for invasions? Not duels, like Mensis and Frontier, but actual invasions against people not necessarily looking for PVP.

I've been thinking Hunter's Nightmare, Research Hall, Fishing Hamlet, and maybe Yahar'gul?
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>>158310146
Just invade Ludwig and pray that the host and his buddies are cocky enough to fight you
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>That feel when you finally complete the chalice dungeon questline after a month of pain
Now I can never do that again for the rest of my life.
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>>158308472
Trust me, it's still worthless unless you've already got max gems on it.

Trying to run through the game with it from the second you kill Amelia is just hell.
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I keep seeing you guys talk about how shit the Amy Arm is so I finally decided to look up its stats in the doc.

>160 base damage
>80 arc base damage

Ouch. Wager most of you would have preferred 180/60. God, 160 makes it literally weaker than Rakuyo, but even that has 1.0 skl scaling.

Still, though, with that moveset, a set of 27%s has to make it passable at least.
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>>158312263
>BB, BoM, and Amy Arm all have shitty Arc base damage and mediocre scaling
But, fucking why?
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>>158312263
27s had better make it passable.

I have a character up to Maria with it at +9 with 2 11% gems and an 8% or so gem. It took me literally 20+ minutes to whittle down the Failures health with it. I just don't get why they would make a STR weapon with a STR moveset that does the damage of a SKL weapon.
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>>158312405
For BB and BoM it's a thematic thing, because they're that special alloy.

Amy Arm is a biological weapon so it doesn't make sense that it would take a buff, so the innate arc damage just serves to keep the player from buffing it.

They gave it decent arc scaling and that higher base arc than usual though. I don't think they had a clear plan for its place in the catalog when they put it together.
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>>158312653
Yeah, I understand the thematic background behind the decisions, but I definitely wish they could have given the weapons the proper scaling and base damage for arcane to ensure that it wouldn't be a total waste with split damage.
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>>158312603
>+9 with 2 11% gems and an 8%
>It took me literally 20+ minutes to whittle down the Failures health with it

Dude your problem isn't the the Amy Arm, not completely. You could/should have a set of 18%s by Failures, anyway, and moreover you're just making it way harder on yourself by not using Bolt.
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>>158312653
>They gave it decent arc scaling
Not at all. You get around 1 point of Arc damage for every level you have in ARC.

The difference between 7 Arc and 50 Arc is like 40-42 points.
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>>158312405
Movesets.

Burial Blade has wide ass arcs, fast hits, great rally, excellent charged R2. BoM is fast as fuck, R1 spam to Hell and back, plus the untricked charged R2 is incredibly quick allowing for very fast viscerals. Plus, both gain increased damage from dash attacks, dashing in and attacking makes a particular SHWING noise.

The Amy Arm doesn't get that, but it has very wide hits, very nice rally and the tricked R2 attacks twice, charging it adds a third hit. Also it's just cool and fun. Untricked, kinda shit, never use it.
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>>158312895
Any other weapon with that setup would have shredded failures, and Maria.
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>>158312821
.9 str scaling is decent, and no number would help the arc damage with a base that low.

>>158312907
No, comparatively speaking, Amy Arm's arc scaling is decent (.625). The problem is that scaling bonuses are based on base damage, and 80 is just too low.

>>158313018
>+9 weapon with depth 1-tier gems
>"shedding" DLC bosses, without Paper and BBPs
Color me skeptical.
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>>158313123
>.9 str scaling is decent, and no number would help the arc damage with a base that low.
I know, anon. That's what I'm saying, that the arcane base damage is far too low for the three weapons to make good use of it.
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>>158313294
Yeah, gotcha. I was in Amy Arm discussion mode. Thought you were talking about its scaling, not the arc scaling of the three weapons.

It's my understanding that BB and BoM get quite formidable even as they are, so I don't think they need to be changed.

Amy Arm seems like it really ought to have been 180/60, though.
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Where do I get the best flat BLT gems for a blunderbuss?
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>>158313783
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/individual-blood-gems.html
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>>158300142
Even if she was involved, it's not an important part of her story.
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>>158314024
Wait are there no odd Bloodtinge gems at all?

I have no BLT on this build but want to be able to do a bit of damage with the blunderbuss, so need help figuring out the best gemp setuip
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>>158314632
Try a flat Arc 72.
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>>158314632
Nope, none at all.

Your best bet is a circle 31.5%. from y592byza in Isz.
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>>158314845
>>158314845
Can you even convert guns though?
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>>158310048
savage
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>>158313783
FRC BSB Circles beat 31.5% for scatter guns iirc. It has a bit of flat damage compared to pure %.
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Anyone wanna bully maria?

Trying to rush Hamlet to get some ghetto lantern gems.

Pass is bully ringing at lantern.
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What's the best gun if I just wanna parry people without raising bloodtinge but am maybe still getting used to parrying?
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>>158316196
Hunter Blunderbuss
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>>158316196
pistol
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>>158315928
Ringing if you still want a hand.
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>>158316498
Yup I'm still here
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>>158316558
Shit I have to take a call real quick

Give me 5 minutes
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>tfw will never get plat theme email
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>>158316558
Ringing again. So sorry about that.
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>>158317270
Turns out I was a dumbshit and was ringing the small bell that whole time anyways.
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damn. ringing again
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Would the Vilebloods have been the most successful users of the old blood if not for the Executioners mauling the lot of them?
The Pthnumerians too I guess, but they're chilling underground in limbo.
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>>158317236
Did you go to your Playstation account online and make sure you're set to receive emails from Sony?
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Thanks Segalt.

Time to go farm some lantern gems to make this arm worth a damn.
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>>158317858
No, because they still turned into monsters, like Bloodlickers and Gargoyles, there's an item that mentions Knights having to discreetly take out the nobles who turn to beasts.
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>>158317987
Yeah I did all that. Got plat on this account 2 weeks ago and still nothing.

Same thing happened when I platted on my brother's account (long before I owned my own PS4), but he might not have been checking the right email account that time around.
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So I've got a character at BL41 currently that I could use for some wacky forest invasion shenanigans, or I could just go all the way up and have a full fledged STR build, but I can't decide what to do. pls send help /bbg/
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>>158318572
Invading the forest sucks, only twinks here.
It's only good for co-op.
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>>158318572
>forest

?
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>>158318707
what about byrgenwerth?
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>>158318825
I'm not sure, give it a try. Byrgenwerth is always pretty active at higher levels.
Sometimes I get good invasions in Hemwick at that level, but they're not very common.
Don't try to invade Cathedral Ward, you won't find anyone there.
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>>158317858
>Would the Vilebloods have been the most successful users of the old blood if not for the Executioners mauling the lot of them?
They would probably wouldn't have full out beast infestations like Yharnam has. If it's just the nobles then that's less damage. But the Queen did turn into an immortal abomination so who knows.
>>158318120
Was it the environment or a different batch of Old Blood that's the cause of their beast being different?
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>>158319012
>Don't try to invade Cathedral Ward, you won't find anyone there.
Even with mountains of shitters summoning that Henriett dyke?
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>>158318016
>wants to make wpn more powerful
>rushes to farm for 21% droplets
w- wat.. mobs on the way to frc dungeons will give you like 15-20% gems, why bother farming? As a player that never bothered to farm brains i guess its a fast enough farm for a set of 21s?
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>>158319187
Yes, because after they summon her they can immediately run to the boss door.
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>>158319273
I have'nt even cleared out Old Yharnam yet. Putting off chalices as long as possible this run.
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PSN US Halloween sale when?
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>>158318157
Get on Sony's customer support and hassle them until you get it
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I lost a bet and have to get one of the caryll runes as a tattoo.

Should I just bitch out and refuse to do it?
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>>158320545
Eye rune on the anus.
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Anyone wanna help a bl50 with Ludwig and Laurence? I want the beast rune as soon as possible
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>>158320545
Corruption rune so that I know to crush you under my car's wheels should I ever see you in real life.
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>>158319094
>Was it the environment or a different batch of Old Blood that's the cause of their beast being different?

Different strain, there's all sorts of different strains of blood due to experimentation and such. Whoever stole that blood way back and took it to Cainhurst had some old nasty ass strain before the Church had begun mass experimentation.

Remember, Bloodlickers and Gargoyles are found in the Labyrinths implying they might be Pthumerian beasts, so Cainhurst got a veeeery old strain of the stuff.
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>>158320545
Get the Hunter of Hunter's rune where your heart is.
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>>158320545
Hunter's Mark on the inside of your brain.
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>>158320717
Sure, I'm up
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>>158320858
Pass is horse
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>>158320545
Get Radiance and rep the Executioners.

Or just something unobtrusive like Hunter on your arm or something.
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>>158320748
>Different strain, there's all sorts of different strains of blood due to experimentation and such. Whoever stole that blood way back and took it to Cainhurst had some old nasty ass strain before the Church had begun mass experimentation.
If I'm not mistaken isn't Queen of the Vilebloods shared by the actual Vileblood Queen and Queen Yharnam? Connection?
>Remember, Bloodlickers and Gargoyles are found in the Labyrinths implying they might be Pthumerian beasts, so Cainhurst got a veeeery old strain of the stuff.
>Pthumerian Beasts
Now those could be interesting to see.
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>>158320939
Ringing at Ludwig's fog
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>>158321084
Did you get him? If not, can I join in?
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>>158321282
Diferent guy? Ringing at fog
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>Upgraded flamesprayer
>40+ Arcane
I feel the need to laugh meniacally whenever I use it now and I'm not even done with this build/upgrade path yet.
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>tempering circle bloodgem in hamlet with Phys UP and Blood UP

Did they literally just put that there for Lost Chikage shitter?
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>>158321084
>>158321282
Good jod my underlings. Gonna grab the skull and then head to Laurence.
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>>158321985
Nice, I'll be ringing at Laurence's fog.
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>>158320771
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>>158320545
Corruption tramp stamp.
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>>158322073
Pass is beast. Beckoning there.
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>>158323180
Thanks guys. I can finally REEEEE in the FC
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>>158323708
>implying fc will ever happen again
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>>158324001
It better happen because I'm about to start farming today
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>>158321527
What makes you think it's for the Lost Chikage? You can slot it in guns too.
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>>158324227
Phys+ doesn't do anything for the guns though.
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>>158324386
It does. Blood damage is considered Physical damage.
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>>158324512
Only on Chikage/Bloodletter. Not on guns.
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>>158324728
All Blood damage is Physical damage, including guns.
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>>158324906
Try putting a tempering Phys+ droplet on a gun.
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>>158321028
>If I'm not mistaken isn't Queen of the Vilebloods shared by the actual Vileblood Queen and Queen Yharnam? Connection?

You're absolutely right, Logarius and Yharnam share a boss theme. I think it's definitely a connection.

>Pthumerian Beasts

We do see them! Bloodletting Beast is almost certainly a Pthumerian beast, the Bloodlickers and Gargoyles are probably further variations. Plus, I have a feeling the Pthumerians had straight up magic like fire and blood stuff and making undead.
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>>158324947
Not on my PS4 at the moment but you could try it out. Pretty sure it increases Blood damage.
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>>158324986
>You're absolutely right, Logarius and Yharnam share a boss theme. I think it's definitely a connection.
So the Scholar gave Annalise Yharnam's blood, that spiraled in vampiric beasts, Laurance got mad and sent Lorgarius and his crew to clean house, and the rest is history?
> Bloodletting Beast
And not the Beast-Possessed Soul?
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>>158325260
Well nobody cares about him since he's a trash boss.
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>>158325513
You're a trash boss.
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>>158326248
ur mom's a trash boss
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>>158326342
Reply to this post or mother will die in her sleep tonight.
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>>158325513
I know that but he shoots fire and is more likely to be a Pthumerian beast.
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>>158326498
(You)
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>>158325260
>So the Scholar gave Annalise Yharnam's blood, that spiraled in vampiric beasts, Laurance got mad and sent Lorgarius and his crew to clean house, and the rest is history?

I imagine it was some noble son of Cainhurst, who like many aristocrats and royals went off to have their education in the best universities and colleges. Burgertown started digging this stuff up, experimenting and this noble thought he'd sneak back some of this ancient power for his ruling class family. Maybe whoever it was sired Annalise, Bloodborne's timeline is very unclear. Maybe it was she who stole it all that time ago, who knows. Then, as the Church grew in importance and influence, Cainhurst became reclusive and the Church, knowing what Cainhurst had, decided to stamp out any potential competition or past mistakes.

>Beast-Possessed Soul

Absolutely, forgot about that fucker. Same for those firedogs the Keepers have, they look to me like undeveloped Beast-Possessed Souls. I wonder just what one was doing beneath the Workshop.
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>>158327329
>Bloodborne's timeline is very unclear.
Well we can sort of come up with one. Djura was present for the burning of Old Yharnam, somewhere along the way Beast Cutters grew out of favor and Saw Cleavers became the new hotness, ect...
> Then, as the Church grew in importance and influence, Cainhurst became reclusive and the Church, knowing what Cainhurst had, decided to stamp out any potential competition or past mistakes
William really should have done more.
>I wonder just what one was doing beneath the Workshop.
Maybe Laurance and company dragged it out of the Dugeons, used it as a guenie pig, and somehow it escaped and they thought just leaving it in there would do?
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Damn Younger Madaras Twin is annyoing. Every shitter in Byrgenwerth summons him and he seriously heals more than the hosts.
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>>158327329
The timeline is clear, the only thing that is unclear is how much time passed between the key events.
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>>158330235
>timeline is clear
>only thing that's unclear is the timeline

The chronology is clear. The timeline is not.
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>>158325106
>>158324947
Well, did you try it out?

>>158326498

Go away
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>>158330375
He got you to reply though.
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>>158327801
It's the lengths of time, I should say, that seem much more vague. I kind of like it, though, keeps that sense of mystery about the setting.

>William really should have done more.

I think the Church probably had a pretty strong start. I guess most people left for them and Byrgenwerth was left severely weakened or depopulated and fell into abandonment. I guess there wasn't much Willem could do.

>Maybe Laurance and company dragged it out of the Dugeons

Probably the best explanation, or it was an experiment, or kept to even test weaponry against.
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Is the Reiterpallash viable?
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>>158330694
no
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All memes aside, who's the best PvPer in /bbg/?
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>>158330746
th-thanks
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>>158330853
me bby
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Which version of Logarius Wheel is best for 25 STR/ 50 ARC?
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>>158330853
God-King Lucifer !!ss9GiTmAVrN
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>>158330694
Yes, but only for skill builds.
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>>158330694
Doesn't seem like a terribly good PvP weapon but absolutely anything is viable for PvE, it's a thrust weapon for starters and that attached gun is pretty nifty for seeing in the dark and being able to parry. Or just dual wielding guns and wrecking fools.
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>>158330853
A guy called "anonymous", I asked him to fight and he completely wrecked me
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>>158330853
Whoever posts in the Discord the most.
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>>158330582
>I think the Church probably had a pretty strong start. I guess most people left for them and Byrgenwerth was left severely weakened or depopulated and fell into abandonment. I guess there wasn't much Willem could do.
He could have started beating sense into people with his staff, or ya know rip their hearts out as offerings to the Great Ones. That would have done something.
>Probably the best explanation, or it was an experiment, or kept to even test weaponry against.
I think the Dugeons are probably the best idea. Isn't there an enemy that sort of resembles the Beast Possessed Soul? They wear robes and shoot fire out of there hands.
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>>158331045
>Doesn't seem like a terribly good PvP weapon
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>>158330853
God-King Buscemi !!ss9GITmavRN
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>>158330582
>I guess there wasn't much Willem could do
Mostly because he became a vegetable.
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>>158330853
Probably me, Anonymous.
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>>158331571
I remember you, fuck you for using that retarded vermin bullshit when I died
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>>158331650
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>tfw by this time next year servers will be down and you'll need to make all your own chalices.
>inb4 "but muh des servers"

DeS is hosted by Atlus; Sony won't be so kind.
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>>158330921
Lost, full Nourishings. Or Uncanny for Flats/not needing to farming Loran Amy.
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>>158330375
Works for me, try it out yourself.
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>>158331750
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>>158331298
>He could have started beating sense into people with his staff, or ya know rip their hearts out as offerings to the Great Ones. That would have done something.

Eh, we don't really have insight (huehue) into what exactly happened during the split. Maybe Willem didn't care, thought Laurence could go off while he ascended quietly. Willem believed Laurence was betraying him after all.

>Isn't there an enemy that sort of resembles the Beast Possessed Soul? They wear robes and shoot fire out of there hands.

Yes, the Loran Clerics, they looks kind of shorter, robed Beast-Possessed Souls with staffs.
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Only one more month, I'm so fucking hyped
https://youtu.be/vbGdIdHOO3I
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>>158331843
Great contribution, dedposter
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>>158332418
Who's the guy in the thumbnail anyway? Is that a Chikage he's holding?
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>>158332851
That's obviously Cain.
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>>158332402
>Eh, we don't really have insight (huehue) into what exactly happened during the split. Maybe Willem didn't care, thought Laurence could go off while he ascended quietly. Willem believed Laurence was betraying him after all.
He had options.
>Yes, the Loran Clerics, they looks kind of shorter, robed Beast-Possessed Souls with staffs
Those jokers. Those are the ones. Also, isn't Loran a place that got wiped out by a bunch of beasts particularly the Silver Beasts? I swear that's the case, but I can't remember.
>Clerics
I thought it was better to be a priest than a beast.
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>>158206228
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>>158333767
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>>158332418
>go into TOH with my first and only character made on day 1 of launch
>literally cannot kill Ludwig on NG+ due to poor stat distribution and shit gems

Oh how the time flies.

Will we get another surprise announcement this winter? Platstation Experience is this December
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>>158334096
>due to poor stat distribution and shit gems

>can't beat boss because he doesn't have minmaxed crutches
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>>158334096
At least you're not DSP, he decided to quit ToH after getting killed by Ludwig over 100 times.
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>>158334254
>low 20's or high teens in every stat
>9% gems
>NG+ after months of not playing

Yea, it was miserable fighting Ludwig and I'm not some MLG pro who does NG+7 runs with level 4's.

Remade a pure Str character and came back with a +7 Pizzacutter and Mensis gems. Spent the next week shredding Ludwig for randoms with muh crutch weapon and had fun doing it.
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>>158334673
consider chemical castration

the world does not need more people like you
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>>158334413
I must've been meme'd on as my memory had me thinking dsp actually went through bb easily.
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>>158335020
You're probably confused with Dark Souls 2, he cheesed it with sunlight spear.
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>talking about ecelebs to bump the thread

Surely we can do better without resorting to this desperation or pretending to be miserable cunts like >>158334802
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>>158335426
DSP isn't a celeb.
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>>158332930
>He had options.

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. There's every possibility he was literally all that was left of Byrgenwerth and its ideals were rebirthed much later on by Mensis. We don't know the details of the split specifically, it's hard to speculate. I'm guessing enough people left that there was no point.

>Also, isn't Loran a place that got wiped out by a bunch of beasts particularly the Silver Beasts?

Loran's the third chalice place, it was its own land, seemingly got messed up pretty bad by the beast scourge. There's really very little information on it other than they got hit hard by the beast plague, discovered electricity and it's where undead darkbeasts come from. Maybe they were trying to figure how the Pthumerians made undead and found a way with electricity, but it was all for naught. Silverbeasts are weird, too, since they exist in Loran and the Nightmare. Maybe Loran found a way there.

>Clerics

It's what the art book calls them, apparently.
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Are there any compilations for dsp playing bb like the metal gear one?
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>>158335678
You bet.

Search it up on Youtube.
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>>158335678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Rdp2--SjQ
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>>158335730
>>158335743
Thanks. Is it just me or did dsp decide to make sucking at games his shtick after the popularity of the mgs3 edit? It just seems forced in that video.
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>>158336379
I don't think he could have killed Ludwig even if he wanted.
He even tried to summon Henriett at some point.
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>>158336379
I'm under the impression that DSP is just too much of a retard to be able to even acknowledge and make a decision like that.
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>>158336454
Holy shit, this is the first time I see that attack.
There was something similar in the Project Beast trailer, but it was purple and it occupied the entire room. The enemy that casted it wasn't clear but it was in a chalice dungeon.
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>>158336454
That would have been a better boss than fucking Silverbeast.
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>>158335743
>ebrietas
>secret endgame boss
>be all and end all
>what is moon presence
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>>158335512
More than you.
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>>158337161
And less than you're mom.
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>>158337243
>>158337161
Let the thread die if you have nothing substantial to say.
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>>158337570
Take your own example.
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>>158330853
literally me, peep my youtube bro
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>>158336815
That speech had me in tears.
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>>158337719
I really hope that nobody here pronounces Ebrietas like that.
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>>158337570
We tried >>158184861
but you autists kept giving it cpr.
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>>158337823
AYY-bree-eh-TAHss/EH-bree-eh-TAHss here
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>>158337831
>post not found
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>>158337980
precisely
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>>158337948
The second one is correct.
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>>158337831
Let it die then. I wont pop in during the day like I did in the past two weeks.

I'm sure some dumb euroshill will still try though.
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>>158335592
>Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. There's every possibility he was literally all that was left of Byrgenwerth and its ideals were rebirthed much later on by Mensis. We don't know the details of the split specifically, it's hard to speculate. I'm guessing enough people left that there was no point.
Fair enough.
>Loran's the third chalice place, it was its own land, seemingly got messed up pretty bad by the beast scourge. There's really very little information on it other than they got hit hard by the beast plague, discovered electricity and it's where undead darkbeasts come from. Maybe they were trying to figure how the Pthumerians made undead and found a way with electricity, but it was all for naught. Silverbeasts are weird, too, since they exist in Loran and the Nightmare. Maybe Loran found a way there.
Now it raises more questions. How did the scourge of beasts get there? Did it start out as some Joe going back home, and ended up as him causing a beast epidemic? Isn't there a hunter who wanted revenge on a beast, or perhaps it's where Valtr and fellow cops came from.
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>>158337831
>>158338136
You sure spend a lot of time in a general that you don't like.
Can you at least stay in-topic please?
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>>158338136
It can finally rest with some shred of dignity. Keep your sage on boys.
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Do I want
>30 VIT 86 ARC
or
>40 VIT and 76 ARC
on a BL 120 STR/ARC build?
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>>158338367
BL 120
May as well go to 544
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>>158335592
>>158338170
All the chalice dungeons are Pthumerian.
The inhabitants of Loran used blood too.
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>>158338230
>stay in-topic

You mean on topic? Try again Pajeet

>>158338367
40 Vit is a good spot to hit for most players. Don't be a low vit memester that gets one shotted in NG+ and beyond.
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>>158338367
If you want a mixed build you're better off with 25 str and 50 arc.
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>>158338667
How good are those stats for pvp?
I can imagine flat arc wheel and elemental weapons with meh tools?
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>>158338667
Yeah but I want to use the hunter tools, which happen to scale well up to 99. Honestly I'm only leveling STR because Wheel and HMLS are rad
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>>158338810
>>158338931
Tools are perfectly fine.
You can use Logarius' Wheel, Holy Moonlight Sword and most weapons with elemental gems.
There's also Tonitrus for PvE.
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>>158338931
You want 40 VIT
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>>158338985
not him but hmls with elemental gems work? Thought the hmls was one of those weapons that needed a bunch of stats to make viable for pvp.
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>>158339157
I have 50 arc, 25 str and 20 skill mostly for viscerals.
HMS hits like a truck with nourishing gems, in both forms.
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Anybody farming FRC gems?
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>>158339291
Can you convert elements on it?
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>>158338170
>Now it raises more questions. How did the scourge of beasts get there? Did it start out as some Joe going back home, and ended up as him causing a beast epidemic? Isn't there a hunter who wanted revenge on a beast, or perhaps it's where Valtr and fellow cops came from.

Like what >>158338463 said, the people of Loran certainly had blood, and must have had some kind of Pthumerian connection due to the fire thing. Or maybe that was after they messed with the old blood. Loran's a big mystery, really.

I think it just says Valtr came from another land, chasing a beast to Yharnam, which goes to show how big the Church got. Then he fuckin ate it.
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>>158339427
No, there's no way to remove the arcane and physical damage. This is true for every split damage weapon, which is why Blade of Mercy, Burial Blade and Amygdalan Arm aren't viable on arcane builds.
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Does HMLS work like the Wheel, in that when transformed some of the physical damage is converted into arcane?
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>>158339678
Both forms do split Physical/Arcane damage. Tricked form just gets higher Arcane scaling and the beams are Pure Arcane.
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>>158339597
It's not just the fire thing, there are actual pthumerian characters in Loran, like bell maidens, watchers and keepers.
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/pythagotron
Streaming again and getting VERY pissed at any spoilers from people in chat, doesn't look like there's any mods. Have fun.
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>>158339597
>certainly had blood, and must have had some kind of Pthumerian connection due to the fire thing. Or maybe that was after they messed with the old blood. Loran's a big mystery, really
Maybe something worth of a DLC? Could be interesting.
>Then he fuckin ate it.
With or without sauce? I bet he or the beast didn't expect that to happen.
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>>158339831
The Kellys experience made me immone to cringe.
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>>158339831
nvm, mods literally came back as soon as I posted
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>>158340061
Nope it's a bot.
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>>158340147
Nah, that cthulu guy. If anybody posts spoilers, he'd ban you in seconds.
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This is LITERALLY one of Lady Maria's attacks
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How do I get the Uncanny Wheel? Are there really no waning gems that are useful on the normal version or di I absolutely need that triangle slot? 20 str/ 50+ arc btw
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>>158340559
>How do I get the Uncanny Wheel?
7h87j4h7
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>>158340362
>read it as Blackman Friede at that resolution
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>>158340662
Can I search and join that dungeon at the first stone or do I have to first have tht chalice and perform the ritual? I'm still not sure how these things work beyond simply picking up chalices from bosses
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>>158340938
You can make the dungeon immediately and for free as long as you have the right chalice and made at least one cursed and defiled dungeon in your current save, pic unrelated.
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>break your sword while fighting
>big hammer on your back is automatically broken too
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>>158339935
>Maybe something worth of a DLC? Could be interesting.

If Bloodborne were to ever get more DLC, it should be chalice stuff. Mix them up, make them all unique, because copy-pasted areas with filters is shit.

>With or without sauce? I bet he or the beast didn't expect that to happen.

New DLC Hunter Tool, 'Beast Sauce', 2 Quicksilver Bullets
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>>158340362
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>>158342048
What are you gonna swing that shit with nigga?
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>>158343013
>If Bloodborne were to ever get more DLC, it should be chalice stuff. Mix them up, make them all unique, because copy-pasted areas with filters is shi
And add some new bosses.
>New DLC Hunter Tool, 'Beast Sauce', 2 Quicksilver Bullets
>MFW
Perfection.
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>>158343013
For a DLC I'd rather have one that lets me explore the ruins of Pthumeru itself, maybe a nightmare version of it. I'm sure that it would look very interesting since Pthumeru is so ancient and had all sorts of magic stuff.
It's impossible that they'll make a new DLC anyway because Bloodborne isn't new anymore. All the attention is on Dark Souls 3 now, and all the actual effort is on the other titles they're developing.
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>>158343547
>And add some new bosses
And replace Amygdala with one of them ideally.
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>>158345036
Maybe a new Great One. Jimbo, the Ever Laughing. Can summon helpers through "clown cars".
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>>158345198
or a boss with 10+ phases like the end-boss of P3

Every phase has a different massive AoE OHKO move with no tell
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>>158345198
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>>158345653
>10+ phases
That sounds unusually interesting to me.
>>158345774
Every time you hit him he honks.
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>>158346236
What weapon do you get for defeating him?
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>>158346370
You get a firearm that unfurls a flag that says "BANG!" on it.
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>>158346370
And I can't think of anything. >>158346465
This!
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>>158346465
Bonus points if through some new mechanic or whatever, you can transfer this firearm onto your opponent without their knowing.
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>>158346613
Good. Now for the weaknesses. How many bosses are weak against blunt and poison damage?
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>>158346465
>>158346613
You also get a new Hunter Tool. It's a tiny flower that you hold up to your chest and squirt water on the opponent. It functions like oil, but for bolt damage.
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>>158346801
Nothing is weak to blunt
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>>158339678
I'm Untricked Mode HMS has 0.5x modifiers on its arcane damage. So if a R2 swing has a 1.8x modifier (I don't know, someone post the chart) then the arcane portion of the damage will be 0.8x of listed Arcane. In tricked mode this number is 0.7x, but with a few exceptions: Beams are 100% arcane and have thier own modifiers. If an attack shoots a beam then the swing does 0 arcane damage, if an attack usually shoots a beam but you are out of bullets then the swing will have a 0.7x modifer (of whatever the swing's physical multiplier is) in Arcane damage. The L2 works in a similar way.

Basically the HMS's different modes are based purely on ATK modifiers, there's no hidden scaling or base damage changes like the Wheel and Tonitrus.


FYI this is what happens to a tricked Wheel
> 200% increase to Arcane damage
> 30% reduction to Physical damage
> +0.50 Arc scaling
> + 20 Flat Arcane

I applaud the people who figured that out, offical guide writers sure as shit didn't.
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>>158346938
So that is what would set him apart from other bosses.
>>158346904
Why isn't that an actual thing?
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>>158347048
>So that is what would set him apart from other bosses
It should be an armored enemy then. Either a pthumerian/vileblood knight or some sort of shellfish kin.
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>>158346613
Make it a new status condition. "Clowned".
It builds up on your opponent based off how much damage they take, but the meter is never actually visible, so it's always a surprise when the opponent attempts to shoot their gun but ends up with "BANG".

The condition wears off after 30 seconds or so. And, I guess Clown works like Beasthood, except you need to equip a certain rune for it to ever be active.
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>>158347093
Make him a shellfish Great One. First your crack the shell(phase one-two), and then finish the soft insides.
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>>158347003
>offical guide writers sure as shit didn't
Of course, the guide was written by people who are extremely autistic about the most insignificant details of the game but at the same time are terrible at it. Webm related.
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>>158347257
I like the idea. The part where its shell breaks also offers the possibilty for creepy and gory imagery, perfect for Bloodborne.
I'm actually surprised that they never made something like that, although the sirens in Fishing Hamlet are kinda similar conceptually.
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>>158347093
I think the next important evolution for Souls combat is expanded directional combat. So different areas of enemies and players (some bosses already do this) have different defense values.

So a squishy blob with a shell on his back should be weak to blunt from behind, but heavily resist it from the front. Same with players, wearing Havel's chest should only give Havel levels of protection for that area, getting hit on arms, leg or face should be its own defense.

Obviously they'd need to improve hitboxes a lot first, and basically quadruple the defense values of armour.
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>>158347649
It would work very well for large mobs and bosses, but not so much for human sized enemies, mostly because lock on always locks the centre of their body.
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>>158347486
They were incredibly pressed for time, so it's somewhat understandable.

The real issue is why didn't from soft just give them exact numerical values of how shit worked? It's really odd, imagine if those damage formulas put into the OP a month or so ago were known since day 1, would have helped a lot of people.

Even in his LP German Spy stops himself from fully explaining the defense formula, joking that he's under NDA about the back-end Mathanatics of the game. Why would From be secretive? It gets figured out anyway and I don't think you can copyright a maths formula, and even if you can it's simple to change it by a minuscule amount to make your own. Plus knowing how defense works isn't going to impact sales.
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which whore gives the best blood?

I've been using Arianna's but it seems lacking.
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>>158348119
I don't think it's a matter of sales, it's more like From thought that this kind of information was too technical and hard to understand for the average player.
As for German Spy's reaction, I don't know, I don't understand him.
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>>158348391
They're all lacking except for Iosefka's vial which is like a blood vial +2.
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>>158347868
Yeah, but different attacks still come from different angles. Like the vertical chops on the axe would anialhate anyone not wearing headgear. Horizontal swings would often hit Gauntlets depending on the angle etc...

Plus you can always free-aim without lock-on, where skilled players could target Headshots with thrusting attacks by being skilled.
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>>158348685
I thought I took a blood vial once that constantly restored my HP for a few seconds
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>>158348814
Must be Adella's blood.
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Hey guys, it's my first play through and I feel like I have missed everything cool.
Missed Eileen, Gascoignes daughter, the old woman, and the nun/priestess chick. Just beat rom so I think it's more or less locked in that I screwed up? Question is should I start over or just persevere to ng+?
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>>158347607
>I'm actually surprised that they never made something like that, although the sirens in Fishing Hamlet are kinda similar conceptually.
They didn't know if they should include a Clown Hunter set and a set for the Doll, or if the idea of clowns beating werewolf like creatures to death would be unfitting. Imagine the psychological effects it would have on Yharnam.
> The part where its shell breaks also offers the possibility for creepy and gory imagery
That's what I was counting on.
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>>158349197
Just keep going and do all the stuff you missed in NG+, your first playthrough should be spontaneous and pure.
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>want to make new character
>not happy with any of my slider creations
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>>158348547
Maybe, Borderlands is riddled with inaccurate tool tips because the maths is complicated but they simplif it so idiots will understand what it does....sort of. Like you have two things that say +20% damage, but one is 10x more effective because of how it actually works.

My reaction to this is educate the Audiance, don't just hide it. It can look complicated, but it's no more complex than math I did in 5th grade. Especially in an offical guide, you can dedicate a page or two to a lengthy and "for dummies" explanation of how damage/defense works.

For fucks sake I wrote out explanations here and on reddit dozens of times, took me a few minutes. I could have written the bestly formatted and well explained guide to damage formulas ever if you gave me a day, more than 2000 characters and something other than a dying iPhone that lags when it types.

If 1000 people read it, and 900 said "meh too complex4me", that's still infinetly more people educated by the offical guide than the current model.
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>>158349382
>can turn into a beastman
>can turn into a cauliflower with tentacles
>can turn into an invertebrate god
>can't modify your sliders once you leave the character creation screen
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>>158349197
your second playthrough will be your most fun playthrough
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>>158349657
The altar of dispare really should have done that, and let you pay chalice materials to respec after you offer it the Yharnam Stone.
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>>158349504
Posts like yours are the reason why I consider /bbg/ the best resource of information about Bloodborne, it's the only place where most users have perfect knowledge of the game mechanics and lore.
Not having that kind of information in the guide is illogical, but I expect it from game developers.
Another hypothesis is that From really doesn't give a shit about guides and left everything to the youtube duo's discretion except for the name of the enemies.
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Someone please give me some nice sliders. Google just takes me to youtube and reddit.
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>>158349940
I wonder if the mirror in the Hunter's Dream was made specifically for teasing.
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is the beast claw good without beast embrace?
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so do you guys hate vilebloods because of memes or is there a legitimate reason to it

because I think they're pretty neat
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>>158351449
It actually has a better moveset without beast embrace, it's much faster.
The only thing you'll miss is the cool jump attack.

>>158351516
Executioners are cool as fuck so people like to roleplay as them.
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>>158351449
also, can you wear a hat when you have the rune equip because I'm not a big fan of the ugly beast face?
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>>158351603
you'd think people would want to roleplay as vampires
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Fresh thread:

>>158351736

>>158351736

>>158351736

>>158351736
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>>158351449
They're my favourite weapon but to be perfect honest they're not a great weapon, especially for pvp. The damage output is what you'd expect for their speed class, making them more of a str leaning blades of mercy, but they have really short range, there will be plenty of times you'll just wiff in front of an enemy because he's just a few inches too far.

That being said, if you learn to use them right I personally think they're a ton of fun, the fast clawing moveset and the animation on the left hand are just really neat.
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Hey /bbg/

You guys are pretty swell
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anyone want a NG co-op buddy for Cleric Beast?
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>>158352231
For you.
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>>158352257
Are you requesting help or offering it?
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>>158352369
offering, just beat him myself a couple minutes ago
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Could I get some help with Ludwig? Password is boo. Just having a lot of trouble with this assholes 3 hit kills
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>>158354956
Levlv VIT
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>>158356854
fckoff
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