/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

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first for honkers

I don't like the ranged/bombard split.

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I'd like a sci-fi RTS that adds monsters.

fuck this game its way too complex. theres too much shit to do. fucking hell.

Bought Stellaris on a whim. Was not expecting interfaction unscripted ethnic cleansing between genetically altered groups.

This shit is amazing.

>>158183951
>RTS
>>158106098

My wonders production keeps disapearing even though no other civ built it, anyone know whats going on, happened 3 times so far. Am i moving to a new era or something?

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>spanish theme plays

Now that terraforming is so easy in Stellaris, is Nonadaptive a good negative trait to choose?

phillip is fucking autistic

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>>158183882

hon hon

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>>158183951
SEVEN KINGDOMS 2

What version of Stellaris do I buy to get the most of paradox's jewlc?

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>>158183660

If you're going to spout memes, at least try not to paint yourself into a corner. The real reason gun crime is so bad in the US is because we're infested by niggers.

>US and Switzerland have comparable gun ownership rates
>Switzerland gun crime is nonexistent

>Switzerland 99.9999999999% white
>US barely over 50% white

In before "omg u fucking racist how dare you state facts and statistics"

>>158184130
Just get the regular version and download all of the DLC from OP.

>>158184049
>3 military cards
>3 economic
>1 diplo and 1 wild

Yes

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>Civs pop up and say something nice to me
>they have a frowning face and dislike me
They managed to simulate real life two faceness
Well done

>>158183882
first for i'd fuck my drunk aunt france

>>158184146
No, it's because you're retarded enough to sell weapons to people who got convicted.

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>Minding my own business empire building
>Suddenly my east coast is flooded with nearly 20 Arab missionaries. They clog every tile up preventing workers and shit from moving into the area
>They never try to convert. Just loiter.

every single unique tile improvement is unusable because you have such a small amount of workable tiles you can use due to districts and wonders

you cant waste tiles with some shitty gold improvement

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>>158183795

fuck the siam ones hits hard
fuck this rat, and fuck civ v ai in general

>>158184245

Wrong again retard. Convicts cannot legally own firearms. That's two for two, got any more spicy liberal memes I can shoot down?

>>158184146
Fuck I was just going to reply to the other one that someone was going to blame nignogs but other countries with a substantially larger lower class or equivalent African population (not in straight up warzones) have a lower firearm-related murder rate than places like Chicago and Detroit. The United States has a higher firearm-related murder rate than fucking MEXICO

>>158184146
Its education about guns imo
As in how to use, and treat them
Also storage when not in use is typically enforced in other developed world non USA countries

>>158184293

The amount of black people in Mexico is palpable compared to the US, as well as the abundance of black-infested ghettos. You're really not helping your argument.

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>tfw a city i captured became the most powerful barbarian outbreak because they are in unrest

Fucking Sparta and i having a war while our cities are getting raped is the worst feeling there is.

How the flying fuck do i raze my own city? I need to stop this barbarian outbreak before it consumes the whole world

>>158184265
>smallautisticcitystateman.jpg

>>158184264

36 hexes plus the city hex
districts take an entire 1 (o n e)

>>158184287
Of course they can't, moron.
They need to get out of jail first.

>>158184371
>other countries with a substantially larger lower class or equivalent African population (not in straight up warzones) have a lower firearm-related murder rate
>equivalent African population
how is it that countries in South Africa have a lower firearm-related murder rate than America

Custom Maps, can I make them? I fucking hate the 6 maps we have.

>>158184394
Capture more cities for Amenities.

>>158184417
more than half your cities will share tiles and most wont even reach the full 36 tiles
your argument is fucking retarded

>>158184435
they can't afford guns
or food

>>158184435

Because the majority of people in African countries are too poor to afford guns? It's almost like there's a huge wealth gap in the standard of living between Africa and the US.

>>158184072
Additionally: I know that Sedentary is essentially a free point. Are there any others like that?

Would you choose Slow Breeders over Sedentary?

How about Decadent? Is the point worth the ongoing cost of keeping your slaves in line?

>>158184435
Because in America, you find guns in garbage bins.
In Africa, there are no garbage bins.

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>>158184259
>20 Arab missionaries land on my coast
>They loiter AND convert my cities

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>gun control debate in /civ4xg/

Last policy/civic thing in the culture tree gives 10% culture for each city state ally

but what do you do with culture when you basically already completed the tree? what else is it used for?

>tfw you got Kilimanjaro AND a 6 tile petra in the same city

i am the yield king

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>>158184491
Nigger i think you dont understand how fucking fucked my situation is.

I cant capture shit because Sparta (the city which is spawning around 4 OP barbarian units) is in the center between my cities and their cities.

We are fighting with stones and sticks trying to catpure each other cities before we get raped by the barbarians, then the reinforcements get raped if they try to get into their localization.

I dont want to give in and make peace because she is going to come back and rape my ass, Caesar meanwhile is chilling in the west coast with Japan.

I have no idea of how to continue anymore, fuck this continent.

>>158184501

gosh you must be trash at settling

>>158184658
score boosts and (I think) tourism

>>158184259
>>158184578
Closed borders really needs to apply to religious units.

Or at least make an option to close borders to religious units. Make it have a diplo and tourism penalty and not allow trade routes if needed.

>>158184658
Tile acquisition maybe?

GAY DISTRICTS

>americafat get rampant gun problem
>the solution is of course to blame the black, not to fix said issue
>"we need more guns to defend ourselves from the mass shooters!"
And I thought the simpsons were a parody.

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>>158184816
>tfw Sappho is one of the greek delegates
Wew

>come into thread
>see 2 autists arguing about gun control
you have /pol/ for a reason

LMAO 2HORSE

>late game
>all my 10+ pop. cities are surrounded by farms
>no new hammers to work
>can't dump them to specialists or anything
>literally growing cities for no reason or benefit whatsoever

nice game

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>>158184754

>it's harder to kill a group of people with a knife than with a gun

What about a truck?

>there's practically no black people in Mexico

Yeah, I just said that. Don't tell me you don't know what palpable means?

>>158184697
You need to capture more Amenities so Sparta doesn't spawn wildlings. That's the only solution. Otherwise, kill the production queue for one city and build an Entertainment District stat, because you need to free up some other amenities.

Forget the Barbarians; you can repair tiles later. It's not like they can take Sparta away from you.

What is the most evil thing you've done in Civ 6 so far?

>tfw I invent facebook in the 15th century

>>158185003
Nuked every capital by the 1800s

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I like Cossacks 3.
I like Real-Time Strategy.

>>158184915
Districts are where you assign specialists now. Also industrial districts, get them.

>>158185032
>>>/gsg/

>>158184754
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-guns-idUSKCN12L0P8
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2015/08/31/npr-contributor-attempts-cover-australian-mass-shootings/

>>158185050
do not

>>158185032
I miss rts games

>>158184915
Have you tried building districts?

Why does growing borders take so fucking long now?

>>158185092

wouldnt be so bad if you didnt need tiles for fucking districts and wonders

>>158184891
Is that supposed to be Sappho? Reminds me of Boudica

>>158185092
You're not playing Russia.

is there any national city view thing...like a panel that shows all of the buildings you have in each city in a condensed format? i'm pretty sure something existed in older ones

>>158185075
So do I. It's really difficult to find a fun RTS.
The old games are pretty deep, but have shitty AI and lame pathfinding, and the recent games are shallow and too fast4you, to cater to the e-sport audience.

Cossacks 3, Age of Empires 2 HD and Supreme Commander : FA are the only exceptions I know, and two of them are fairly old already.

Writing is easy

>>158185152
Detailed view, the button for it is on the top bar

>>158185032
I like rts
Cossacks 3 is shit tho

>>158185042
>>158185081
I have all the districts up as well. It doesn't feel like there's much point growing cities past ~15 pop. now.

>accidentally move the wrong unit with auto unit cycle
>don't want to play anymore

so how do i do the different victories in civ 6? science seems the same at least.

>>158185230
Some districts give passive yields based on population

>>158185252
just look up how to turn it off

>>158185218
Why do you think so? It needs some patching, yes, but I really like it.

>>158185279
I literally just alt f4'd out of the game to change it.

>>158184935
US has trucks too, but you don't see me talking about airplanes in France because some extremists flew a pair into your precious WTC.

And if you would had understood my argument about Mexico you would had seen that I was pointing out that violent crimes are MUCH more related to financial status than race.

wish there was more map types already. loved all the weird ones in civ 5.

map dlc when?

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>>158184754
Mass shootings are not indicative of the overall level of gun crime in a country you stupid twat. Just because some nignogs in africa can't afford to kill lots of people with guns doesn't mean they aren't naturally stupid and violent. [Insert liveleak video of average african witch hunt burning people alive]

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Ausmerican dude here

Sorry, it's been real boring up until about 5 minutes ago

Sick of Greece sitting in the fucking corner, reading his fucking scrolls and sneering at the way the other kids look up to me, I have decided to start kicking his fucking head in

I didn't know he was allied with so many city-states though, goddamn

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>>158185037
This thing?

Can you only build one science victory part at a time? I have space ports in multiple cities.

>>158185358

yes thanks

>>158185059
>http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2015/08/31/npr-contributor-attempts-cover-australian-mass-shootings/
>three mass shootings that happened because the gun buyback didn't go far enough
made me think

>>158185346
What a horrible and violent witch hunt.
Look at the cruelty in which that atrocious inquisitor attacks that innocent woman.
I'm shocked and horrified.

>>158185230
Well, how tall are we talking? Pretty sure industrial has 4 specialist slots once you get a power plant, probably other districts aren't much off that, though I don't think all of them have 4 slots. I don't get how you get size 15 as the optimal one out of it.

>>158185294
I dislike having to get the officer a drummer organised with every unit (I know you don't need them but they are very beneficial), especially when you are basically constantly building troops. Found it lacking any real tactics, it's just pump out troops asap and overwhelm enemy. I didn't try it out for long. Couple games so I could be wrong. Just wasn't for me I guess.

the way specialists are shown in civ 6 is so fucking shit

just compare it civ v, in vi you cant tell what the fuck you are actually getting from them

When wasteful wars

I feel like the AI doesn't even try to act like it's not all teaming up against you at every point in the game. I had Victoria declare war on me(Sumeria) on turn 46 of Epic, so I just had to build 3 war-carts and then I conquered her in like 10 turns. I think the AI just did it to stall me so Trajan could build up a little bit, but he never really did anything with that gap Victoria bought him with her life. China also decided to just not settle more than two cities for some reason and gave Trajan like 3/5 of the continent. Maybe I'm just forgetting, but I don't remember it being that blatant in V.

>>158185508
Ha yes. The formations can easily be fucked if you play against someone who know what he's doing.
That's a real problem, I'm not going to lie.

Same for the spam troops thing, it's also a problem. In fact, it's very easy to rush the enemy and use formations to get the advantage.

But to be honest, Cossacks 3 is one of these games where you're supposed to have a peacetime of 20-30 minutes and only start the fight once everyone has an army.
It's pretty shallow if you just play it normally.

It doesn't really help that the AI cheats and has no fog of war.

>>158184205

>Rome is my best bud
>Trajan phones me up to tell me I'm a fucker because I didn't convert to the light of islam
>Laughing animation and he waves a hand

I kinda like how they have friendly-pissed dialog and angry-happy dialog animations. They just seriously need to get the world congress in so you can trade all that fucking information you get from diplomatic visibility.

>>158185554
There is so much information hidden in 6 you really don't know what you're doing half the time.

>>158184891

You got a source for these anon? I assume you were the dude who posted the similar Catherine a few threads back. Don't think I've seen them before.

>>158185478
> Pretty sure industrial has 4 specialist slots once you get a power plant,

I hadn't realized this. I guess it eats another 3 people then.

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Is it worth buying tiles? it feels my spread is really low, or should I just lump my cities up together more?

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>civ 6's ai manages to be slightly better than 5's aside from the not upgrading unit bug
>still completely retarded compared to paradox's

My brother got civ6 yesterday and he's been showing me how to play since I've never played any grand strategy in my life except Romance of the three kingdoms on SNES.

We're taking a break, but right now I'm leading in Science and Domination even though his city is way bigger and mines is fucked up. I started sandwiched between 3 other nations and 2 of them declared war on me. He just took over some weaker person.

Any way I somehow managed to get ahead in terms of technology, but it takes forever to build shit. My citizens also revolted because I don't have a lot of amenities. I'm at war with him, but I don't know what to do. I'm holding him off because I have superior units, but he has a ton of units. I've just kind of been building whatever takes the least amount of time. He thinks I'm way ahead, but once he kills my units he'll see I'm fucked.

So what is Stellaris anyway? It is Europa Universalis in Space, a 4x or something else?

Why aren't my apostles healing at my holy site (a new one made closer to the front)

Do they have to go back to their spawn?

>>158185374
The first 2 have to be done one at a time. The last 3 you can do all at once.

>>158185670
The Civ 6 UI is one of the worst I've seen in recent games. Even just looking at the possible trade route screen is confusing compared to Civ 5's. And why the fuck can't I sort trade routes by specific yields?

>>158185825
I feel as if they are cheating more than in V to compensate for their stupidity.

I'll be interested in a no cheating AI mod to see how poorly they play.

When you used it in Civ V, the AI would frequently be constantly losing money, and begging for whatever resources you could give them.

>>158185996
It's Europa Universalis in Space, but without all the neat features that make it fun, and with an empty Earth that anyone can conquer and with shit diplomacy.

>>158184935
Nigga I'm not even that guy but it sounds like you are the one that don't know what the fuck words they are using.

>palpable

>>158186050
>why the fuck can't I sort trade routes by specific yields?
you can tho? you can sort them by gold, science, faith and civilization etc.

how do i control what tiles my cities are working like in civ 5?

>>158185996

It's more of a grand strategy game than 4x, but the alco-autists ree'd it out of /gsg/ for some reason. Even though they accept Distant Worlds which is the exact same shit.

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Arguably more fun than civ 5 release desu.
There are some UI problems and missing features like all of the advanced set up options and some major balance flaws but otherwise it's fine.
Why is every single captcha I get the word calle + something?

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>>158183795
Are the pre-set Empires in Stellaris available to be added to the game as random Empires, or do they always need to be saved and then enabled through the Phoenix button thing?

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>>158186181
Click on the city, and then click the head icon.

>>158186181
click on city
click on manage citizens button down the bottom right near purchase tiles with gold, change production, etc.

>>158186195
Wrong. Distant Worlds is actually fun.

>>158186090
What features make eu4 fun?

being gay is good retards

Sean Bean > Leonard Nimoy >>> Civ V narrator

it's not a bad idea now to put a settler near tundra for those luxuries and strategic resources right?

>>158186268
Mindless blobbing that doesn't take too much to kick off and straightforward colonization desu

>>158186282
A LIKE PIGS AND AIR CONDITIONING BROKE THE ROMAN EMPIRE AND WHO DESERVES MORE CREDIT THAN THE WIFI AT KILIMANJARO WAZEBA RUINED BY TRADE?

>>158186282

That is the exact opposite of reality anonymous and you are just trying to rumple my cardigan.

>>158186268
You actually have embassies that work and weren't deactivated because "lol fuck you", you can, in a few clicks, orders provinces to build an army instead of having to select one, click on "spaceport", click on "build", and then click on the ship you want, the combat seem deeper, with discipline playing a huge part, being even more important than numbers...

>>158186357
>the combat seems deeper
rolling 4 when they roll 9 sure is great combat.
ck2 had the best combat system out of all paracucks games, even hearts of memes

>peter sells me all his relics and sculptures
>immediately declares war on me losing the 100s of gpt i paid him for them
the ai could not be more stupid i swear

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How did i do /civ4xg/ ? Only went to war once, tomyris was guarding me. Second game on king.

How do the great writers work? Just keep him in my the city I had him in when I used him and I'll continue getting the bonus?

>>158186412
I never really liked CKII's combat. It seemed to always fuck me up.
>have more men
>commandant has better combat
>rolls good dice
>still lose because fuck you

>>158186460

You just squeeze a few books out of him.

>>158186420
Why is Andrew Jackson down the bottom with all the "these guys are bad" tier leaders?
Why is Nelson Mandela 6th? He legitimately ruined all of South Africa'shopes and dreams?
Why is the gorilla who died the 2nd best leader in history?

>>158186420
>on king

m8

>>158186414
>sues for peace
>gives me the rest of his relics
well fuck yeah i guess

>>158186460
Hate great writers. I always end up with 3 or 4 of them just sitting around doing nothing because there's never enough slots for them.

i really like the great person system in this one. they all do different things right?

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>>158185801
anyone?

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How do I do this meme?

uh I say uh "WE", right?

>>158186227
>>158186250
thanks guys

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I WARNED YOU GANDHI YOU FUCK

>>158186618
egypt was primarily ruled by whites tho, and still is

>>158185350
nice screenshot

>all the women but drunk aunt france do nothing for me
>gilgamesh is smoking hot

the gay agenda is after me again

>>158186618
What are these white things? Spiderwebs?

The spiders must be giants.

>>158186517
They already went retarded with the quotes so why not fuck this up too.

>>158186531
nvm it was prince i lied, took me 16 hours.

Gorgo science/dom victory or whats next?

>>158186698
Civ made Victoria of all people cute by sheer accident

>>158186661
>All those civs that hate you
Seems to be the game in a nutshell.

>Gandhi asks me to go into a joint war against the civ that's been putting it's army on my border and are getting in the way
>Sure why not, I've got the best diplomacy with Gandhi right now so might shoot for an alliance with him
>Gandhi immediately hates me the next turn due to warmongering penalties

COOL

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>>158186708
It's silk
From silk worms, havent you ever heard about chinese history, or Chingas Khan

>>158186484
You have to organize your armies into left flank, center flank, right flank. If you just dump all your dudes in the middle the opponents left and right flanks can attack you for more damage while taking significantly less themselves.
There's also different tactics based off the situation. If you are archer heavy and the opponent is infantry heavy you can do shit like skirmish that increases archer damage while decreasing infantry damage and commanders can gain personalities that unlock different tactics. You can also do shit like berserker charge if you are a scandinavian culture or an ambush attack if you are defending in forest with a smaller force.

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>>158186661

>>158186809
You mean they aren't using spiders to make silk?

>>158186829
Qué?
You mean I don't just send a doomstack on the enemy's ass?

Is it the same in EU IV?

is there any point to going tall?

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WHERE DID ALL THE WAIFUS GO?

>>158186708
Silk from silk worms. They are massive beasts and extinct in the wild along with axolotls.

Man... civ 6 feel so gamey after endless legend

>do a thing
>immediately get an angry message
>AYYO HOL UP you have more x than me? FUCK YOU MANG

The AI is just painfully transparent.

>>158186878
In Eu4 you just make a doomstack that's like 60:40 infantry cannons and slam it in to the other players doomstack and hope you get better dice rolls.

Does religion seem pretty much pointless in Civ 6 compared to Civ 5? You have to sink so much precious production to get one going but none of the beliefs are all that powerful.

>tfw there will never be an endless legends 2

>>158186782
Has anyone ever made a declaration of friendship that has expired and then renewed itself?
Has anyone ever made an alliance?

>>158187002
you also have to waste district slots, unless you are russia
religion is incredibly shitty

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>still no game where all the characters are cute waifus
WHY

>>158186962
Aren't infantries hired by bunch of 1,000 people while cannons are built per 10? Wouldn't the upkeep ruin you?

>>158187002
>>158187056
>some nigger converts my only city with a holy district
>religion kill for at least 30 turns

>>158187002
The only redeeming factor is the naturalists for tourism.
Even the fucking buildings are shit since you have to build a holy site + shrine + temple just to fucking get at them and their bonuses aren't even that great.

>>158187093
Money only matters in the early game. By the time you are making doomstacks you should be earning hundreds if not thousands a month.

>>158183795
Is there anyway in civ 6 to make it impossible to progress beyond the renaissance period?

Does garrisoning units in cities do anything in 6? I know there's a civic card that gives +1 amenity for garrisoned troops but apart from that do they do anything? Increase happiness or anything?

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>>158184117
Great fucking taste my friend.
Get Kohan: Ahriman's gift too, maybe try Kohan 2 too but I personally didn't like it as much as the first.

>>158187053
Every time I tried when they liked me, it's like I broke some unspoken etiquette and they begin hating me, so I just enjoy the rare green smile.

>>158187056
I feel the holy site build reduction time for Japan is kind of meh because of that, haven't played enough to see how useful is it for the other districts

>>158187154
>not on GoG or Steam
Well, fuck.

>>158187139
Ha, okay.

Ok so I'm playing as the Aztecs and I have 3 Great Generals: one for ancient/ medieval and two for medieval/renaissance. I also have +5 STR for luxuries.

All GE bonuses stack now, so my knights have +20.

>>158187213
Speaking of GoG, they're having a sale. The Guild 2, Stronghold, Two Worlds 2 and a few others game I don't know are on sale.

Weren't you people recommending The Guild 2 earlier?

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>>158187053
>>158187184
Ausmerican dude here

I made friends with Osama.

Until I want his resources

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>turn 115
>Sumeria is already into the rennaisance
i should've disabled scientific victory
now pic related happens, should i prepare the boipucci

>>158187275
>PAX is on sale
HOLY LOVE

[Civ 6] I feel like I'm doing something wrong when settling new cities

Newish player. I notice that when settling a new city it takes like 40 turns to build the most simple thing, even though the city's production seems pretty much the same as your capital's when you start. I normally send workers to cut down nearby trees for a quick production boost, and later I set up trade routes between my cities to increase production more, until I can eventually set down an industrial zone district.

Am I doing this right? Is it normal that new cities are such an uphill battle?

>>158187305
Nah it's fine. There's like a 60 turn wait when you try to win sciencely since you have to build all these things that cost a ton of production and are right at the end of the tree and you have to do them one at a time.

>Starting on plans hill is a 50% Production boost over starting on any other tile
Why is this allowed?

Does working district tiles increase great person points per turn or no? Is there any way to see where and how many gpp I'm making a turn?

>>158186932
>Egypt denounces me for being weak
>Egypt was the weakest nation

*SMACKS LIPS*

>civ has literally 0 of a strategic resource
>stills wants it for free from me

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>>158186110

>>158187351
Yeah production is retardedly low in Civ 6. Don't settle too many cities to keep district build costs low.

>Cant play civVI for another week, but i am too curiuos:
how is the AI on high difficulties? Just lazy cheating like in V? hated it when "clever" strategies were pointless when the enemy good just bump another 5 units.

>>158187213
Just torrent it.

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>its a gandhiapostlesepisode.jpg
>ow well its a loss @ turn 140 because religion of peace, only 2 towns to go from england
>fast-forward 140 turns
>victoria still cockblocking gandhi from his victory while I wreck him from behind for his capital

eat shit gandhi, perhaps victoria truly is the best waifu

>>158187612
>>158186110


>there's practically no black people in Mexico
>Yeah, I just said that. Don't tell me you don't know what palpable means?

Fucking retard.

>>158187628
King+ have the exact same AI as Prince, just cheating modifiers
>firaxis in charge of not being lazy

>>158187619
Wait, the production cost of districts increases if you build more cities?

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Am I the only one experiencing strange bugs in Civ VI? Like someone declares war on me and it shows me my own leader declaring war. So I'm playing China and CHINA DECLARES WAR ON... china(??)

And also, I win a war against someone and sue for peace, only to get a peace offer from an AI I didn't know fucking exist?

>>158187715
goddamnit

>>158187672

>It's [plain to see] that there are few black people in Mexico

Not sure if you're that dumb or just trolling but here, I spelled it out for you.

>>158187726
Yes. Only exception are civ-specific districts, like the German hansa.

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Smart

>>158187661
Even if I pirate it, I have no guarantee it'll work on my computer. Old games are a pain to run, which is why I like GoG.

>>158187715
That's weird. I don't remember the AI cheating in Stronghold Crusader.

>>158187727
>China declares war on China on behalf of China as China did something that annoyed China but China shall stand against China's imperialism and show China how not to be a bitch.

>>158187771
>The amount of black people in Mexico is palpable compared to the US, as well as the abundance of black-infested ghettos. You're really not helping your argument.

>this somehow means "It's [plain to see] that there are few black people in Mexico"

So, did it get cracked?

>>158187727
This is a known bug. If you haven't met the Civ, it substitutes yourself as the Civ declaring war on you.

>warcarts have 30 strength, 4 movement, and NO maintenance

holy fuck lmao

>>158187829

Yes anon, palpable refers to something obvious when used in such context. Don't tell me you were reading that thinking there was lots of black people in Mexico?

>each city can only make one archaeologist
why this

>It's a "Gandhi sends so many apostles that you can't move anywhere or improve anything" episode

Why the FUCK am I considered a warmonger for trying to get these shits out of my land. Holy fuck this makes me so mad.

>>158187836
??? Pirates have been playing it days before it was released on Steam.

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Starting Emperor today anons
What should i play, can't be
>Japan
>Aztecs
I've already won with both of them on Prince/King respectively

>>158187823
>Old games are a pain to run
I'm pretty sure I tried Kohan1 on win7 and it worked. It literally takes 10 minutes for you to try.

>>158187979
KONGOOOOOOO
protip: ai are retarded and will sell relics they find in goody huts for like 100 gold

>>158187963
Where do you get it from now though, all the sites I know for this have been taken down.

>>158187979
Scythia

>>158187963

>"Don't worry were introducing unit stacking to solve gridlock on maps!"

>One religous unit still prevents your army from moving

fuck you Firaxis

Is it just me or do the bonuses for Oligarchy and Autocracy seem backwards? Oligarchy has one of each card, but very combat heavy bonuses whereas Autocracy has 2mil and no diplo cards, but a very jack-of-all-trades bonus

>>158187963
>Islam and Judaism flood my island
>back and forth converting my people

I'm going to play China to build the wall

>>158186220
Those empires always have a chance to randomly appear in games.

>>158188005

Ye olde Bay of Scallywags.

>>158186420
>Lech Wałęsa

>>158187980
It does? Okay then, I'll give it a try.

I'm still trying to get used to the art style. I find it a little hard to see things on the map sometimes. Everything is just so bright and colourful.

>civ 5 tourism
>affects city capture, raze, and ownership rate
>affects diplomat levels
>can literally flip cities from one civ to another with no military conflict

>civ 6 tourism
>...
>YOU WIN GAEM

How do you people deal with AI spamming 28394289392389432 troops on higher difficulties? Killing them is not an issue, it just takes so long and the battles+time are putting so much war fatigue on me.

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>>158188081
>>158183795
So a game in which I play a random Empire might contain both the Commonwealth of Man and the United Nations of Earth?

What if I play as a custom Empire with Earth as home-world? Will the game spawn a second Earth Empire other than mine?
Can you force the game to spawn multiple Solar systems and Earths by forcing the spawning of Empires based on Earth?

When's a good pop to start sending out settlers?

>>158188265
encampments and more archers

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I'm starting to miss automated workers and not having to plan out my cities.

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>so many wonders that I've ran out of tiles for food
who /wonderwhore/ here?

>>158188265
I've seen games where the AI had so many troops they had to put them on ocean tiles to fit. Sometimes you just have to seek other means of victory, or just hold out as long as you can.

>>158188337
I believe people have reported 2 Sol systems in the past, don't see why the game couldn't handle more.

>>158188358
How does that deal with War fatigue?
Thats how I killed them all. Double Encapmements + Cross bowmen.

As I said, killing them all is not the issue.

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From my 2 game experience if you want and easier time, and have a semi decent start:
>Aztecs
>Scythia
>Sumeria
are the most broken Civs at the start and can snowball early

Meanwhile the 3 best mid/late game ones are
>England
>Japan
>Germany

>>158188391
>Where is raze button

Seriously, raze all that shit.

>>158188441
>not the kongo
lul

Civ newfag here, the game feels extremely clicky.
I was trying to do a religious victory and i got bored of having to click every single zealot guy to send him to a place, then clicking to convert etc. Same thing for troops. They move slow as fuck and every turn moving shit is a chore. Am i doing something wrong?

>turn 80 summary so far
>2 city states close by
>egypt and germany on my continent
>shit out 3 settler while also taking over the 2 city states
>declare war on egypt because cleo is a bitch to me
>germany denounces me because muh barbarish ways
>he declares war on cleo 2 turns after too
already took her capital when i get the other 2 cities that fucker is next for being a dick

>>158188504
nope, just got to wait for quality of life updates and mods

>change enemy city religion to mine
>he spawns units out of the holy site in that city and helps me spread my own religion

this fucking AI

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>>158188416
The thing is that I want to force the spawning of both vanilla human factions+ another ones added by mods (The Pallid), but I don't want to spawn both the forced Empire and a second, randomized on identical to the first one.

Devs should just allow you to Forbid, Enable or Force the spawning of pre-built empires. There's no reason to not let the player do so.

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>>158188485
Despite not playing loads, yet winning 2/2 i've come to the conculsion that
>Wonders are effectively useless
>GP outside of Generals and Prophets are pointless
>Faith is shit
>Culture/Science Vic is pointless compared to the rape that is Domination and even Religion - even though Religion is boring as fuck
Just pick one of the 6 i mentioned and gangrape your way across the map, especially as Monty, Giligi and Tommy

>>158188441
What's so good about the brits?

>>158188651
I pretty much have to agree
science victories are completely unviable because of how much fucking production the space race projects all are

>>158186829
To be fair, if you have an absolutely godly leader it can be better to just shove everyone in the middle flank, like a high-martial defender/unyielding combo that completely negates the enemy flanking bonus.

>>158187715
well shit. Thats like 5 out of 8 difficulties? how can it be so hard to have at least some mediocre difficulty? Basically it is now either retard ai or cheating ai.
That makes waiting a week a lot easier.

>>158188579
Allright. Is there some kind of victory that minimizes the amount of clicks i have to do?
Also after a certain point my tree updates felt so meaningless i was just spamming them, is it normal? Shold i play on higher diff? Was playing warlord for my first game ever.

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>>158188652
>Unique Unit: Sea Dog: Replaces the Privateer. Can capture enemy ships. Cannot be seen unless adjacent to it.

But much more importantly since Domination is the best way to victory:
>Ability: Pax Britannica: All found or conquered cities on a continuent other than your home continent receive a free melee unit. Gain the Redcoat unique unit when Military Science tech is researched
So good

>>158188706
Carl Sagan as a GS gives you like 2 techs and 3k production towards spess

>>158188759
Not really, civ 6 is pretty click intensive just because of all the trade route, spy, and general city management you have to do

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>>158188759
>>158188794
I had to turn autocycle off manually, i was going insane

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>>158188794
Ok thanks a lot. Last question, is there a civ where i can mostly sit on my ass and do tricky shit with spies/make other cities rebel etc?

Since the game does a terrible job of explaining shut and the Civopedia is not a detailed as it used to be, could someone explain 'War Weariness'?

>>158188759
go emperor+ the game is braindead easy just make sure to defend yourself for like first 50 turns

religion and domination is tedious culture is probably fastest and least clicks

Give me a Civ to play as in 5

I have JFD's, LITE's, Sukritact/More Civs', and Tomatekh's civs at my disposal.

>>158188613
Honestly I kinda wish you could just remove them altogether, I feel like they throw off my rhythm when I make custom empires.

>>158188850
>do tricky shit with spies/make other cities rebel etc
This isn't /gsg/, there is fuck all to do with spies atm

>least clicks
Pick an OP early game civ and relieve your neighbours of their lands

>>158188848
Auto cycle off? How? By the love of god.

How the fuck do I effectively trade with people? That big dog is so fucking slow.

>>158188861
Play Sioux

Auto cycle is so fucking broken

It just constantly switches to one unit, then another unit immediately when I don't even do anything with the previous one

Germany enters the renaissance 50BC in my civ6 game on emperor, what is even happening.

>>158188907
>>158188947
https://imgur.com/a/rCtjw

>>158188906
>there is fuck all to do with spies atm
Well, spies are pretty fun in SEVEN KINGDOMS 2. Because, SEVEN KINGDOMS 2 use a nationality system that makes spying actually interesting, as your enemy can perfectly figure you're spying on him but can perfectly use your spies against you. That's why I like SEVEN KINGDOMS 2, as SEVEN KINGDOMS 2 is really fun when it comes to it.

>>158188970
That's not a solution

>>158188906
>>158188854
Allright, thank you.
Is there a way to protected trade caravans from barbarians? I can't link them to my units.
I hope i don't get fucked up by turn 10 on emperor.

>>158188391
how'd you get those icons pointing to districts

>>158189006
Yes it is?

>>158189006
Works for me
:^)

>>158188989
in what game

>>158189037
That disables auto cycling, I just want auto cycling to actually work properly.

>>158188861
>>158188929
Should probably mention I'm a little bit a faggot who doesn't like domination victories

Unless the civ was specifically built for conquest.

>>158187963
>Pirates have been playing it days before it was released on Steam.

yeah no.

>>158189075
Just ignore him

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>>158189076
>expecting this to work well at launch
>from Firaxis
IT
JUST
WERKZ

>islands map
>my "island" is one continent north to south preventing naval passage
>i am the only civ
>there is only ONE city state on the opposite pole on some crappy island on my side of the continent

Time to meme Diety in a 1v1 Kongo vs Russia game before i go out

Ojhhhhh fuck. I finally figured out what was wrong with my war fatigue. I forgot to make one city not occupied and now after the war is over the AI is refusing to let me change it.

>no autosave from before 20 turns available
Shit, now I have to reload and redo the war.

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>>158189075
In SEVEN KINGDOMS 2, which is a very fun game, called SEVEN KINGDOMS 2, as SEVEN KINGDOMS 2 can make spies very powerful if they live long enough.
In SEVEN KINGDOMS 2, it's perfectly possible for a spy to cause a war between two countries.

Guys how do I know which tile the city will expand to? I can't see that shit anywhere. It was shown as a blue outline in civ 5

>>158189256
you can't, yes, it's stupid

>>158187882
Not him but I certainly did. Using palpable to imply an absence is shitty word usage.

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>try to go wide
>District Cost
>215
>Base Cost: 60

>>158189330
the increase cost is just ridiculous. Fuck this piece of shit game.

after first like 50 turns the AI will literally rarely ever war because of diplo penalty they get

>>158189256
why would you force this of all things

>>158189407
unless they're faggot brazil

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>the intro changes if you change the starting era
Nice

>>158189090
just spam the op UI and go wide over the plains

>>158189112

But they have. Just because you were too stupid to copy the crack to the intall directory doesn't mean others were.

>>158189486
not days
between half a day and a full day at most

>>158187002
>put holy site between 4 mountains
>afterwards realise that religion is pure shit

Pls kill me famalam it could have been a science district

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>chinese builders with serfdom and pyramids

Anyone with any tips on how to drop war weariness? its been at -5 for like 40 turns now

How happy are those whose walls already rise!

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>Scythia declares surprise war
>They beg for a peace treaty after 3 turns where all I did was move my troops closer to her border
>Accept treaty
>GET YOUR TROOPS AWAY FROM MY BORDER RRREEEEE

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>>158188876
There's a mod for that.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=682811854&searchtext=remove

>>158189727
Sign a peace treaty with barbarians.

>>158189031
Map marker icon above the minimap.

>>158189793
Much obliged.

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>Go to kill Barbarian camp that's near me and a neighboring civ
>GET AWAY FROM MY BORDERS!
>leave camp there
>neighbor civ keeps getting raided by that camp

>No custom stellaris map where the Galaxy map where every star is a province from EU4
why
even
live
PC bros

>>158189443
I wondered why that generic intro was always there

I'm assuming getting jewed out of a wonder just gives you gold like in civ v?

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>>158189793
>>158189929
>Quit out of my current game to download this
>Only realise after relaunching that my current game used a preset empire
I am a special kind of retarded.

>>158190004
Would be interesting, with hyperlanes to make "province bordering". Needs either a really close bunch of continents, or warp/wormhole can't cross oceans.

>>158190049
I'll have to pay closer attention to it next time it happens. It used to at least inform me of what happened to all that production in V by telling me it was converted to gold, but whenever it happens I just get to stare at this empty circle on the tile after with no notification of whether or not I recovered any of the resources wasted.

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>>158189949

>Brazil sends like 20 units towards my border via the sea
>a barbarian galley intercepts them and starts wrecking their shit

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>Wheat, requires irrumatio
What did they mean by this?

>>158190141
This is extra funny when the barbs have higher tech.

>>158190063
It's ok. It believe it only removes the empires from the pre-scripted empires list, but it doesn't affect save files in any way.

You do are a special kind of retarded, I guess.

>>158189486
No they haven't. The game was cracked a few minutes after australian release but it was not played by pirates before it was released. At all. You're retarded if you claim otherwise.

And no the press copy wasn't leaked either.

>>158190201
>You do are
I feel a lot better now, thanks.

I really enjoy barbs spawned from OTHER unhappy civs pillaging all my shit and NOT BEING ABLE TO STOP THEM BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE IS FLOODING MY SHIT WITH APOSTLES

Fuck it, I'm not touching this shit game until it gets fixed, if ever.

My first long game was 120 turns of sim city and now I'm industrial era while the competition's medieval. The rest of the world hasn't touched me. Bit boring.

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The harbor the world deserves

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>no iron
>no horses
>rush artillery and infantry and field cannon
>mfw just steam rolling every city one after another because lol they still have warriors
>mfw all civs hated me before I started warmongering
>mfw they dont do anything about it
>mfw only challenge is barbs

>>158190278
>No statue of liberty
why does firaxis hate us

>>158190278
I'm disappointed I couldn't make a joke about pearls.

>be japan, continents
>an unmet player has been defeated
>an unmet player has been defeated
>go full out samurai
>loses to guns
>recuperate through money and industrailization
>meet the lone survivor of the other continent
>its teddy
>go for flight
>go for bombings and air raids
>fails
>stalemated into doing nothing, I'll just hoard gold and keep pumping industry and I might win with culture
>completely forgot about saladin
>"Have you heard the word of islam?"
>mass spreads his religion within 20 turns
>lose

looking back, sometimes this game hits too close to home

I just realized there's no Single Player Scenarios

going war cart rush in MP is funny

I just realised this game sucks

>>158189407
You're wrong. France came at me in two games.

>>158190401
They are under mods

>>158186618
The working class was always brown in egypt.
Midnight niggas were nubians, and were usually slave soldiers for the various Egyptian dynasties.

>maintain a tiny military (1 unit per city)
>focus on economy
>inevitably some civ is baited into declaring war
>use all my dosh to buy fucktons of units
>destroy them
>now have twice as many cities and a sizable military

I find myself doing this every game. It works, but I'm getting into a bit of a rut. Should I raise the difficulty?

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Ok i just beat the game on Diety
While it was a meme game on purpose, i did gleam a little bit of info:
>Always go Slinger - Scout - Scout - Slinger
>Don't explore too far with your warrior/slinger
>Go for maybe 1 wonder early, Gardens/Stonehenge, then leave wonder alone and focus on troops
The AI will attack you asap, for some reason, so Civ 6 is the Civ of War

>>158186747
It's the accent for me.

Cleo is cute but uncanny valley at the same time.

civilisation is fun

never played it before but its pretty good

>Civ 6 will fix 1upt guys i swear
You know your game has a problem when even the most basic action like moving units feels like a chore. I can't even send out missionaries and scouts without stumbling upon and getting stuck between some faggot's 20 unit army just hanging around cities. And this is on Emperor, can't imagine how worse it gets on higher difficulty.

>>158190560
Yes, if you don't have to actively maintain a solid military to pre-emtively kill barbarians and shed fear to the other civs, you're playing too low

ello itsh mey, shaun bean

do ya miss the larst gye yet

>>158186052
They do that with a mod? They do that for me with a completely vanilla BNW. Multiple times have I looked at some guys gpt in diplomacy and it's at -29 or something like that.

I've only known one, single human who could not go positive for gpt in Civ 5, even if his life depended on it.

CIV 6 MODS WHEN?

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>158190563
>building 2 scouts
oh im laffing

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>gandhi going for religious victory
>converts all my cities and half the other civs
>conquer him and capture all his cities
>mfw I'm now 1st place for religious victory

>>158190563
It would help if the AI was anywhere near competent when it came to war.

>>158190780
>not building 2 scouts when early game bonuses are OP
kek

I civ just offered to grant me a city I already captured in a peace treaty deal. What gives?

>>158190563
>building meme units

>>158186420
>Lech Wałęsa

I wish you got all a civ's gold when you take his last city. Where the hell is the treasury?

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>Beyond Earth is in better shape than Civ 6

>>158190738
It happens to every AI with a mod. they will all sit around -60 something and be unable to get out more than a handful of units.

I'd like to see the AI here play without the ability to spam units form nowhere.

And if a human cannot get a positive GPT, then they are failing to learn the basic rule of Civ that is bothering to manage your shit. I feel most new players can get into a negative GPT when they are unaware that things cost, and leave the management of citizens up to the game.

>>158190849
>investing that many hammers into 1-2 consequtive +45 gold when they will all be stolen by AI moving in from the mist anyways
Hahahaha

>>158190863
He was offering to recognize it as yours. Occupied cities don't grow, and you need to wipe out the original owner or get him to formally cede it to you for that to stop.

TIL Promises in Civ 6 exist retroactively in time

>Start game as Rome
>Find Russia to the west
>Want to grab my 2 other good city spots, one west toward russia, one north in the clear
>Settle west
>Russia complains about settling too close
>Promise not to settle near them anymore
>Settle northern city
>no complaints
>200 turns pass
>have been good friends with russia all this time
>My northern city is 12 pop and doing fine
>Russia settles 3 tiles away from my northern city with a shitty AI spam expansion city
>"Your promise to Russia not to settle near them has been broken."
>mfw my promise was broken because my city existed there for hundreds of years when they decide to settle a new one next to it