/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

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>>158162470
ABSOLUTELY BASED AND WHITE

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>>158162470

>this just happened and now i'm stuck and lost my save

bravo valve

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>melee units
shiggy of the highest degree

Does anyone else prefer the first 100 turns or so of the game over everything else? idk why even, it's just much more fun exploring and planning everything out

GAY DISTRICTS

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>>158162374
This is way too spooky for me.
I just legged it out of that system.

>>158162596
district planning, forest/rainforest rushing, and extremely aggressive AI/barbs do make the early game a lot more exciting

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>Rome attack just as I finish researching samurai
>A single samurai cockblocking an entire invasion

taste fucking superior nipon steel ayaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>158162663
Find the Curators and play twenty questions with them about it.

Also, SPACE GYPSIES FUCKING ROBBED ME

Just won my first king game. Only hard part was barbarians and dealing with early game attacks.

After that it was field artillery vs knights and shit.

The AI is so horrible. The sad thing is the harder difficulties all have massive cheating... fuck. Why is it so hard for them to invest in AI?

>>158162596
>not liking taking huge cities with artillery and soldiers knocking down the gate and systematically killing all the civs units rendering them absolutely useless late game

wot

>>158162674
>forest/rainforest rushing
Wait why would you care about those?

>>158162596
turn 150+ or so it becomes a slog for me so far.

Early game is a lot of fun.

Does Civ VI support Steam Workshop yet?

I noticed there are files for World Builder but there isn't a Civ VI SDK in my Tools library. Has anyone found a way to make custom maps and share them yet?

>>158162803
You can't just invest in AI, I mean you can invest in doing something about the shitty AI but they can't just hire more AI programmers.

They need to fully remake their infrastructure for planning AI opponents by including stuff like machine learning and taking data from other players which requires an always online kinda deal

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>Builders give their lives to create improvements
I won't forget their sacrifice.

>>158162374
Is there any way to make my spy be defensive permanently? I don't need to update the fucker every like 9 turns.

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>>158162803
Because making competent AI is very hard

What features seem like natural extensions for VI's expansions? Extended diplo with UN and Vassalage n shit?

>>158163057
Truly this is the russian way

>>158162845
I mean chopping down forests to rush stuff

>>158162803
I feel like the AI is worse than it was in Civ V.

>Doesn't make good strategic choices or placement of cities, just RIVERRIVERRIVER
>Can't into tech despite having two research trees in Civ VI
>Never attacks with its armies, just declares war and moves forces into range of your troops
>Single City AI

Who the hell programmed this?

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Razing cities TRIPLES the war exhaustion.
This is BS
Razing a city should decrease war exhaustion

>>158163027
So are they even harvesting replays?

I agree though that they should start working on machine learning. Even on micro scale things like just combat or district planning it could improve things a lot.

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City states don't seem to upgrade units ever

>have high amneties
>declare war to guy 10000 miles away
>he has low amneties
>dont accept peace
>his cities blow up in revolts
I am not sure if this is intended behavior or not.

>>158163262
>implying the budget wasn't massively cut and staff overworked to milk the Civ name
>you fell for the modern game meme

>>158163013
They've spoken so little about the mod support, you'd think they'd have emphasized it more after they made it a selling point with XCOM 2. Hope it's not as bad as V.

>>158163090
Paradox has no problem programming competent AI into CKII, HOI4, or EUIV.

Blizzard makes decent AI in Starcraft.

I've never thought I had an easy time of it in Ultimate General Gettysburg, and that gives you multiple AI personalities to choose from.

>>158163424
>as bad
but V has plenty of mods

>>158163424
They said full workshop and multiplayer mod support right after launch.

>>158163262
Even worse the AI often attacks in awful odds, rather than conserve units. I can understand barbarians walking into major defeats but proper civs just funnel units into a meatgrinder until you're knocking down city walls

>>158163346
They don't. If you look at the AI code they basically have it set so that the AI decides to spend it's budget on supporting the maximum number of units it can support and puts upgrading them at the bottom if there's nothing else to spend gold on. Probably because they don't want players Levying full armies.

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Rate my roleplay race.

>>158163262
>Never attacks with its armies, just declares war and moves forces into range of your troops
This is literally the worst thing ever. I have been fighting non stop wars and most of the time is spent on me attacking the units the AI keeps randomly shuffling around.

Any of you faggots want to start an online Civ6 game? I got nothing better to do and plus its fun making autisim forts.

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>>158162374
Guys, I'm real bad at civ vi.
What is a tall amount of cities? I either have so much clay I go mad and my districts suffer, or I'm boxed in like a fucking bird.
Am I really supposed to make a 'science' city/'theater' city/etc ?
Was trying to play on Epic speed a mistake? Every new city takes for-eeeever to get going.

>>158162596
Same problem with the previous games, the first part with exploration and discovery is fun. Once the status quo is settled the game is pretty boring unless you go domination.

>>158163346
Neither does the AI

>>158163596
6+ cities and having enough food to support them.

>AI declares war immediately
>sends a dozen warriors
>kill all of them with a couple of archers
>begs for peace

Fucking triggers me how retard AI literally throws games. I don't even want to siege all their cities, but they're literally forcing me.

Big Boss Ross's UA for legacy bonuses is pretty useful for maintaining a permanent hold over like 4 or 5 City-States

>>158163683
It also doesn't help that the movement changes make 2 range units significantly better than the generic 2 movement melee units.

>>158163634
>cleopatra declares war on me because she has 30 spearman and thinks i'm weak
>i kill 20 of them with a single tank unit

just

>>158163346
is that a CS-owned trade route?

Is it worth it to chop down trees for production to rush shit up?

>>158163817
If you have access to hills for production later on, then yeah sure.

can someone give the rundown of the new keyboard shortcuts?

also, is alert status for units still in the game?

>>158163596
Yes you want to specialize cities. Assume you can get two districts in a city before building more becomes kind of irrelevant. Your top cities will likely reach 4-5 if you want them to.

Playing Civ4: Beyond the Sword (Unmodded) for the first time since 2010. In the game I'm playing, there are three continents but somehow everyone started on the same continent. This leaves the other two fresh for plundering the resources.

Is there any way I can get a settler across the ocean? I remember there being a way but now I'm not sure.

Any advice on placement of my encampment districts? Since they get a ranged attack with walls obviously that's a factor but are there any others I'm not considering?

>>158163451
Compare IV's modding to V and you can see it was a step down.

>>158163683
I had dinky little Arabia declare war on me twice when they had 1 city and then 3 cities, while I was at 4 and then 8, and at least one tech era ahead of them. I only had 4 units in my army but I smashed the Arabians because they would move troops into range of my army, get damaged by ranged attacks, and run away instead of fighting.

When I invaded their territory using Colonial War, they finally fought back, but by then they had no choice. I think someone fucked up, because when it was fighting back I at least took damage, and they attacked units in a what is theoretically a good match-up, such as cavalry attacking artillery, ranged attacking melee, etc but being 2-3 tech eras behind it was just watching Mamelukes charge Artillery Corps and Crossbowmen shooting Tanks and Mechanized Infantry.

>>158163918

You need a transport ship, iirc.

Civ V newfag here from last thread.

What units are okay to build early game? Not necessarily THE BEST but are there any that I shouldn't be wasting my time with?

>>158163789
I want a mod that makes all terrain act as flat plains for movement means. Worst part of domination is moving troops around. Making that take 2-3 turns less would be so nice.

>>158163914
F9: Civopedia

>>158163927
No just put them out of the way or at defensive points.

>>158163596
>going tall
nah just spam cities with commercial complexes and roll in the dough
works everytime except a lot of the time

>>158163815
Yes? does your game not have those?

I wish there was something you could put on top of jungle that doesn't remove it. As it is now I have all my tiles with stuff on them and then just a bunch of untouched jungle.
I couldn't make it into a natural park and it's just there providing adjacency bonuses.

I would also like a way to improve forest or jungle tiles into a farm or mine or something directly, without having to waste a builder charge chopping it first.

>>158164008
Just get Slingers and Archers.

Anyone play japan?

How OP have you made the electrical factories + power plant combo before?

Is it good enough to build around.

>>158163982
That's what I remember. I've built Caravels, the only transport ships I have available atm, but apparently they don't transport Settlers.

Everyone kept saying before release that there's no reason not to go wide, but I don't really see a reason to ever have more than 5, maybe 6, cities. Production time will end up fucking you over hardcore.

Where do I get Leviathans and Plantoids dlc, lads?

Can I play pirated DLC on steam, just like EU4 and CK2?

>>158163683
>gilgamesh declares surprise war on me from the other side of pangaea
>shows up an era later with his carts and teams up with norway against me
>archers and roman legions just destroy everything they throw at me
>gilgamesh retreats while I systematically capture all the neighbouring cities of norway and refuse all his pleas for peace

>>158164179
You can build farms/mines without chopping but you're better off chopping anyway for the production

>>158164218
8 is the magic number apparently, but I dont know why everyone keeps repeating it

>>158164193
I did a "tall" japan where I built 5 cities in a circle and dumped all their industrial zones in the center and holy shit the production was absurd.

>>158163431
>Paradox has no problem programming competent AI into CKII, HOI4, or EUIV.
I challenge you to go to /gsg/, post this, and try to argue your point. GSG AI are only better than civ in a sense that they can handle a more complex system.
>Blizzard makes decent AI in Starcraft.
Blizzard can throw money at a problem simply to maintain image of near-perfect game.

Mainly tho, few people really want and would appreciate good AI, meanwhile making it costs serious doge.

>>158164028
military engineers, yo

>>158164218
what penalties do you get for going wide?

>>158163916
So I assume it's typically industrial + (Other) right?

>>158164289
I'm gonna try that next game.

The only fun way I've played the game is high production domination victories.

>>158164321
District cost goes up. Not the buildings in them though.

>>158164258
You can't if there isn't a resource there. If there's a forest with gems or whatever on you can put a mine and it will become a forest mine.
If it's just a generic forest hill you have to remove the forest before you can put a mine on it.

>>158164193
I never even built one because my double speed easy adjacent bonus Holy Sites spewed out so much Anime the world was weeb before the 1800s

How does war fatigue dissipate after the end of a war?

>>158164103
guess I just haven't noticed

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>Spain religious conquest
>Gilgamesh Ziggurat spam Eureka steamroll
What other factions are fun to play? A lot of the bonuses seem kind of boring.

do districts from different cities have adjacency bonuses with each other? I assume yes but I have never bothered

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>>158162721
>small the finest nipon steel
>army slowly getting slaughtered, counterattack incoming
>offers peace in desperation

Shall we show them the true power of nipon steel like in my animes or let them be and bring righteous justice upon them in 35 turns?

>>158164621
Yes. Districts and tiles from other players or city states also work.

>>158164342
Depends on the city really, you can leverage chopping etc to go for commercial/culture etc.

Encampments provide production too and show up earlier but don't get the sick power plants etc

Like most of the game it's highly reliant on your victory goal and terrain.

>>158164635
gorgo will never ride your dick if you accept a surrender

Is there any way to remove a district?

I started building a holy site, only to have Ghandi grab the last great prophet. Now there's not much point in me having it instead of an industrial or theatre district etc

>>158164595
Scythians' 2horse, lmao 2horse is pretty silly. You can just roll over people with horsemen by like turn 50

>>158164342
industrial + commerce/harbor + whatever

I was thinking, what if they made a mod to make current political leaders/figures civs?

Donald Trump’s America

Unique Ability: Grab em by the pussy

Donald Trump’s composure and manly stature intimidate female civilisations. All female civilisations are 50% more likely to give in to unfavorable trade deals, demands, and peace negotiations.

“I’m a great negotiator”

This bonus also applies to any unmet civilisations.

“I don’t know who Putin is. He said one nice thing about me”

Unique Unit: Department of Deportation Death Squad

Replaces infantry. Same strength as infantry, but gains the single use ability to reduce the population of an owned city by 1 and remove all foreign religions from that city.

Unique Building: The Wall

Each city can build a wall which prevents foreign missionaries, prophets, archaologists and musicians from entering the cities borders.

>>158164847
>memecivs
gahndi is already one too many

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>still can't start the game even after anon's suggestions.

oh well. i gave up.

i am really digging the soundtrack but i wonder where is war themes/others?

Making a new Stellaris empire.
Wat do
I pretty much only ever do materialistic/xenophiles.

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>having multiple space ports will not allow you to launch multiple steps of the science victory

oh wow thanks for wasting 30 turns in 2 cities

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>>158164754
I'll let him live for now and go for a huge samurai deathball victory in 35 turns, afterwards gorgo will die as well

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>>158164895
>he doesn't enjoy meme civs

>>158164193
How does their adjacency bonus work? Does it just increase the final bonus by one or what?

how the fuck do I close civ 6 without it freezing my computer

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Just finished my first game, 8 player continent map on prince. Got a domination victory on turn 357 as Teddy. The AI started off promising. I had some great strategic battles against barbs and my immediate neighbors. but late game was a bit disappointing. All the AI just spammed weak medieval units and My fully upgraded field cannon corps, infantry corps, and artillery just shred through them. They also never put up much of a Naval fight and I essentially owned both seas the entire mid-late game. I knew I had won the game around turn 270 but it was a slog to actually finish it off. The turns take forever when you get up around 250-300

Starting a new game on King now.

I feel like the game is a lot faster than V was. Six's standard feels like five's quick, and epic feels like standard.

What determines the cost of a district, is it based on cities or total districts? Wondering how good a REX would be to help boom past higher difficulty AI

>>158165105
Really? It feels a lot slower to me, especially science and culture victories.

>>158163559
>warp

>>158165104
>prince difficulty
>literally babies first civ match

play on emperor or above if you want even a slight challenge, king doesn't change a whole lot from prince

>>158165105
It could be due to not knowing the meme builds but I could consistently win around 170 to 180 on quick in civ 5.
In this one it took to almost 300.

>>158165105
>>158165179
It somehow feels faster and slower than V to me.

>>158165105

I disagree. It took me 19 hours of playtime to play through a single game here >>158165104 . A similar game on civ 5 would have taken 12~14. Maybe it will get quicker as I play more games and get used to the changes.

Will Pericles get pissy with me if I invade a City State he's sent envoys to but not enough to control it yet? Same question if I conquer a city state he hasn't discovered yet.

>>158164031
There's nothing in the Civopedia about keyboard shortcuts.

>>158164553
DOES war fatigue even dissipate over time?
Its already been 20 turns but it hasnt dropped by a single point.

>>158165105
Overall I've found it slower. Not so married to tall play means more time taking turns and doing shit. Also the AI turn times get ridiculous sooner.

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>>158163559
Solitary seems a little odd if they're clan based but I'm not sure what other weakness they'd have.
Here's one of mine.
>>158165275
Sometimes ya just gotta warp.

>>158165060
where is penultimo

>>158165304

Yeah I played civ 5 on Emperor, I just wanted to play my first game on prince to get used to the new mechanics.

>>158165334
It feels faster because you can just gun for a victory type from turn 1. Like never building a campus and screaming down the civics tree for Theocracy.

But it seems like there's a lot more waiting around hitting end turn.

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>>158163346
>>158163634
>>158163521

This.

The AI is terrible in Civ VI, what the fuck?

>mfw when you literally can win an easy domination victory by simply trying a science victory
>by the year 1700 you will have stealth bombers killing enemy club-soldiers

Electric Factory (Japan)
Industrial distict
+4 Production (+8 production with electricity researched) to all cities within 6 tiles.

Power Plant is +4 production to all cities within 6 tiles.

Assuming 5 Cities with electrical factory and power plants all in range.
Each city will get a bonus of 60 production, for a total of 300 production from those ten buildings alone.

>>158164984
This is more a multiplayer feature.

In cv5, when a player is close to space victory, all the other players gang up on him. The space victory player must then defend his city housing the spaceship parts while completing it. If the AI were decent, it would do this too.

Having multiple spaceports mitigates this. And if the AI were competent, they would also have multiple spaceports so a human player does not just nuke his one space city, like in civ 5.

>>158164635
Fuck accept it

is anyone else annoyed with the sheer amount of useless noise that your envoys report from other nations?
i do not give a shit that someone build a monument

So game reviews gave stellaris a somewhat bad rating and people were saying it was somewhat true but on steam it seems to have great reviews. I was playing a bit of hearts of iron 4 and got into it a bit. Is it like that? maybe less complex?

>>158165871
>surrounding final capital with helicopters
>france just killed a barbarian outpost with a knight

>>158162845
There's a wonder than gives a shit ton of production for each rainforest tile. Really useful for the science victory.

>>158163603
The worst part is they FUCK you for going to war even more in this game than ever. its fucking retarded

>>158165304
Still even on Prince the AI shouldn't flounder as much as it does. It's one thing for the player to leap far ahead, it's another when even the top AI just flounders and runs around with medieval tech by 300. Even V's Prince AI would go through some semblence of progress - maybe because it didn't have to worry about districts.

>>158165904
Also it must have gotten a bunch of updates so its most likely really good now?

>>158165871
>Our super duper spy efforts have unveiled that X has built a market in his 1993981238 city!
No totally not, I keep track of all the information in my photographic memory.

>>158165904

Stellaris is like a weird mix of 4x with some super simple grand strategy elements. Nothing like HoI4 really.

Its also a lot less goal-oriented than most 4x. You kinda just do your own thing, explore, be a xenoslut/slaver, become fuckbuddies/toys with ancient empires, try to survive nearly impossible interdimensional horrors and shit.

Its main issue last I heard was mid-game content, which apparently a lot of the updates and the new DLC was designed to make better.

>>158165904

It has nothing to do with HoI, EU or other grand strategy games.

CIV is more like a board game, kind of as a digital Catan board game.

why arent you playing Kongo

Don't you wanna win?

>>158166182
how is it not goal orientated? Do you just try to survive?

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Toaster player here. I'm playing V modded using Vox, JFD's Rise To Power and REDS.
Should I disable REDS if I'm using the latter two? Trying to improve my performance.

>>158165871
Cleopatra has clear a barbarian encampment with a warrior!
Cleopatra has promoted a warrior with tortoise!

Which reminds me of how shit the promotion system is compared to 5.

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>>158166239

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>>158166239
>tfw Kongo master race

He's gonna suck in multiplayer only games, though. People can just avoid sending missionaries his way.

>>158165726
Tall Japan is fun as fuck, you should do it

>>158166182
huh sounds really fucking cool so its like a 4x dnd/role play game? Also seems like the newest patches added a fuck ton so im gonna try it out. I always wanted a 4x with grand strategy, total war was always almost there but not.
>>158166229
um I was talking about stellaris...

>>158166243
It's more sandbox should be the proper term. There are very few actual victory conditions. The game keeps going mostly until you just get tired and feel you've won.

Units are 2slow4me even in the Medieval era.

>>158166243
You can win by
>Owning more than half the galaxy
>Killing everyone else
>Owning more than half the galaxy with a Federation
Considering how long it takes to do any of those things (with all the other shit happening and especially with larger galaxy sizes) you do have to occupy your time in ways other than winning outright.

>>158166243

I'm bad at describing things, but basically the you have a tiny stubnote about the 3 victory conditions in the back of your game log, and really, the conditions themselves are hard as balls to even achieve. It takes a lot of time and effort. And with the threat of vastly superior empires wanting to step on your nuts or eldritch horrors appearing in end game crisis events, it gets pretty tough.

I guess the best way to put it is that the game doesn't really "streamline" you into the victories like Civ does with culture and science etc.

>>158166239
Fuck that black man he hates fucking friends for some reason even though he doesn't fucking hate you.
>>158165726
Holy shit im playing japan next, fuck this England shit. I like coastal cities but I want to be making shit fast. Also did nobody ever notice that wonder that gets you 2 navel units per time you make one? Its fucking amazing.

What ship types have torpedo slots?
I only have corvettes and destroyers.

>>158166657
That thing where it takes an extra turn to move into forests/hills/etc really changed gamespeed, goddamn.

If there's one thing I absolutely love about Civ Vi

Its the Corps, Army system and the and sub unit types that can link with other units.

Makes it more than just one unit per tile while still making it more than just a doom stack.

>Military engineers can make aerodromes, but they can't make canals.
So close...

do you think they'll make canals and maybe even bridges this time?

>>158166662
>>158166501
huh so is this a good game to waste my life with more than even civ. is there a lot of space ships you can make or build is combat cool? I'm guess its at least a bit like their other games but with more animation? the eldritch horrors sounds like a fucking awesome plot point. sounds like tyranids in 40k.

But can you actually lose really easily? I don't want to play forever then lose the game..

>>158166657
melee units are just generally fucking horrible unless they have a lot of movement like cavalry

>>158166914
the support unit thing is pretty fucking rad
doesn't make up for not having a functional unit list though

I don't understand how computations take so long in-between turns.
There's definitely less than 1000 things going on.

In Civ V, can I Trade with non-Civ cities? Or anything related?

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>start game
>don't like startin position
>start new map
>don't like startin position
>start new map
>repeat ad infinitum

How do I stop doing this... I haven't played past turn 35 .

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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Tim+and+Eric+-+Celery+Man

This is literally gonna be me for the next week with civ every morning

>>158167268
Start position in civ 6 is way more important than it was in civ 5 but I mean its just more fun playing with a disadvantage sometimes

Is there a way to make a science victory not take 8 years to finish?

>>158166981
>is there a lot of space ships you can make or build is combat cool?
There are four main combat classes that you can design and use different parts/weapons and shit, and there is/was a popular mod that added more classes. There are civilian classes but who cares.
The combat can be pretty at times. That's one of the things they took from mods and applied to the actual game itself.
There are in fact basically Tyranids, and also Eye of Terror/5th Dimension types and Rogue AI empires. And Leviathans adds in single, rogue units that roam around and fuck shit up.
Losing isn't too easy. Maybe if you fuck with the wrong Fallen Empire or sit around and let the 5th Dimension invaders or Rogue AIs get too strong.

Can you start trading with civs that are on another continent and don't have any cities by the coast if you build an Aerodome/Airport?

Music mod when?

i really fucking miss my man pocatello https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_0Ba1MLzg

>>158167505
Im about to play it, is it as hard to learn as any paradox game or is this baby mode. hearts of iron 4 was a asshole too understand and I still don't get all of it. FUCK navel landing combat in that game, yeah I know how to do it but boy is it complex for no reason.

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>tell them not to convert my cities
>do it anyway
>no punishment at all

I want to get off the Bad AI ride

>>158167773
you have no corpus whatever?

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Why did they make Cleopatra black?

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Can someone explain why is she leading instead of me? Can i still get the cultural victory? I'm confused.

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help

I have no idea what to do with all these workers

>>158167389
>Start game
>Shitty peninsula
>ah well i can work around this
>get my first settle and start moving to settle him
>Brazil has 4 units just standing in my way
>after 30 turns they're still just standing there, not even shifting

I rage quit that game and started anew.

>>158167851
I'm actually gald they didn't.

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>going for a Science victory
>absolutely immortal since the AI won't upgrade it's horses to fight my collection of stealth bombers and nuclear missiles
>90% of the AI is still researching fire or something anyway
>now there's just 75 turns of absolutely nothing until victory
>75 fucking turns of micro managing fucking 100 spies and 5,000 caravans

Why is the late game so terrible?

Holy shit I'm watching TV while clicking NEXT every 30 seconds and this is my last 2 hours of CIV VI experience.

>>158167767
Baby mode compared to HoI4

>>158167505
It's a shame because the Stellaris combat looks fucking gorgeous, you can zoom in and see a complete Star Wars battle with special animations for everything, yet combat itself is super duper simple. It's not even as complex as a hex game where you position your shit, it's just "click towards enemy" or "click away from enemy".

>>158167767
HoI4 is the easiest gsg paradox ever developed
holy shit my man whats wrong with you

>>158167268
I'll only accept this if you play on Marathon.

>>158167851
What is with the cheeks and chins in this game and Cleopatra is actually not even close as bad looking as the others. there is something wrong though with either the neck or the size of the head.

>>158167960
What difficulty?

>>158167960
late game is not the greatest, if they pushed AI into creating nukes then it might get a bit interesting because nukes are abso-fucking-lutely devestating

>>158167960
Freindly advice - stop trying to play a game that isn't there. If you don't enjoy micro that 6 seems to be dedicated to past midgame, play something else.

>>158168146
It's exaggerated to give the feel of classic animus where emotions are extremely obvious.

How do I access the civolopedia in 6 without going into a game?

Also, is there a way to manually set the autosave quantity?

>>158167960

The "Normal" one I guess.

>>158168208

I just wish there was a "keep doing the same thing" button.

Holy shit future tech becomes more of a nuisance than anything else. Why? Why doesn't it automatically gets chosen when I've literally researched every single thing possible?

>>158167904
>open borders with someone
>they move 2 units into my land and sit on wheat and marble
>don't move them for 10 turns
>have to declare war on them just to upgrade those tiles

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Alright, as an Aussie playing American, how do I make you United Statesians proud?

>>158168092
Its complex for most people and people who don't play their games and just getting into. I know its easier though, I tired Europa Universalis for like 5 minutes and gave up a while back but wanted to try this out because ww2 sounded fun. ill first learn this game and maybe try Europa Universalis if its somewhat like it so I can hop into it not blind. I see it got new dlc, they don't seem to not give up on their games it seems.

>>158168383
only go for FREEDOM governments

>>158168309
This game is missing a lot of quality of life things that even CIV 5 did better.

>>158168383
>all that wheat

You're already on your way to being a burger

>>158168383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThlhSnRk21E

Rush Democracy, get a Culture_____victory

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>>158168383
Bring freedom to the world.

>have nothing but positive diplomatic modifiers with egypt
>be the marc anthony to cleopatra with my big army
>declared friends for ages
>suddenly she declares a joint war on me with china who is on literally the other side of the world

D-did I just get cucked? I should have listened to Trump...

also what the fuck kind of AI is that, me and egypt had a good thing going and i never did anything wrong to them, go fuck yourself Firaxis

>>158168371
>declare war
>REVOLTS!
>gg firaxis

Can't decide what kind of ethics to go with in Stellaris.

Help

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Quick question: how do I denounce someone?

>>158168545
click on the government types and find the one you want

pick the ethics that go with it

>>158168510
Like

A religion named Freedom?

>>158167827
If someone converts your city at all, you can cassus beli for a war of religion.

So are coastal cities just garbage compared to land ones?

You have 2000 characters to convince me not to play at Online speed

DX12/Vulkan when? I'm getting a little tired of lategame becoming a stuttering lagfest

>>158168684

Simple answer: yes.

Complex answer: a lot yes.

>tfw you find this out after building 6 out of 7 cities with 50% of their territory being in the sea

is defensive spying useless or is that just me

>>158168710
The end game is so slow that you might as well.

>>158168429
Don't worry, stellaris is not a /gsg/ it's a decent rts/4x hybrid with some gsg leftovers in it. It's main flaw is nonexistent replay value.

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>>158168371
russia is currently doing this with half my civ

except I made an alliance to ward off murrica and I cant get them to fuckoff now

>>158168824
Something something volunteers, something something little green man.

>>158168780
>kept trying to restart to build a costal city
>found out that districts can be placed away from the city center
the requirements aren't really helping

>>158168710
>>158168710

This: >>158167960

>>158168710
combat is actually interesting for half of the civs during the early game

>can't build fishing boats on coast/ocean without resources
>no adjacency bonus for fishing boats
>can't place districts on water
literally the only downside is needing a harbor, which you can't get for a decent while

>>158168976
How fucking long does it take for war wariness to go down?
I havent been at war for ages

>>158168976
Still, having a sea tile within 2 of your city is a good Idea. You never know when you need a harbor.

>>158168596

I like the idea of spiritualism but I also like money.
I like the idea of monarchy but pacifism sounds gay and worthless.
I like aliens but I also wonder if slaver is any good too even though I usually try friendly faggot routes


2hard

What the fuck are amenities?

Why are land routes so fucking bad?

The AI seems pretty shitty.

It's 1903 AD and almost all the enemy factions are fucking about with swordmen and catapults, it's pretty meaningless fighting them with stealth bombers and modern armor.

>>158169197
hapiness

I played civ5 fine but I literally feel like trash in civ6. I haven't played the tutorial or anything like that but it just feels like I do everything wrong. Production feels low, city growth gets fucked because of housing, amenities can just barely keep up. It feels like I can only keep like 2 districts up to date with the latest district buildings.

>1900 ad
>china builds a library in their capital
why is the ai absolutely buttfuck retarded

I wish there was a way to quickly know what to build / what tech to go for for a specific great work.
I have Homer and already placed the first in my capital but I dont know what to build now.

The encyclopedia is a bit better than before but its still not great.
This game and total war could really use a better ingame encyclopedia.

>>158169258
>Production feels low
this is going to be the largest noob mistake for civ 6 because they really never suggest you to rush industrial districts at all while they are by far the most important thing in the game

Food is not really that useful because you will always be limited mainly by housing and amenities. Hills, rivers, and mountains are infinitely more important so starting placement is also that much more important.

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And so it is time to culturally enrich the world with nipsteel

>can't name cities
literally why the fuck would you remove that feature

>>158169197

Think of amenities like happiness in civ 5, except localized for each city rather than being applied empire-wide. If you don't have enough amenities for your citizens in a city then it will become unhappy and grow/produce more slowly. The entertainment district builds amenities and is vital once a city gets to about 10 population.

>>158169408
it's gotta be a level 3 city just like units

>>158169297

It's pretty obvious right now that they fucked the AI up big time with both military upgrading, tech developing and buildings.

I dunno how they managed to think that this was alright.

>>158169408
>can't name cities
yeah I really miss this especially when actual civilizations do it all the time, but they still kept the naming units thing...?

>>158169408
>town name
>Okay

>>158169394
Wait so me worrying about keeping farms is no problem at all? because these districts take up space.

Is iron incredibly rare or something? I've played maybe 6 games to the point where iron got revealed and have had 0 iron deposits within reason range of my starter area.

>>158169458
>except localized
I actually wish it was more like this than the random distribution system they have right now because it still feels like a global resource except you suddenly find out some of your cities are unhappy as fuck.

any extended eras mod for civ vi yet?

FUCK I AM SO FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF BARBARIAN SCOUTS
THEY DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BUT RAID YOUR CARAVANS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>158169565
You get food like a motherfucker into the mid game once you research Feudalism. All you need is like 2 to 4 farms max per city. It certainly is important enough in the early game for some growth but nearly as important as it was in civ 5.

>>158169458
Shit not him but I wasn't using entertainment district fuck. It was because I thought it was like civ 5 where you need to rush getting as much resources as possible. I wasn't really taking district s into account till the industrial districts seemed good.

>>158169607

Yes, seems like most strategic resources are quite sparse. I had one oil deposit on my home continent last game.

Some other anon thought this is why the AI only has warriors for most of the game, they can't upgrade to swordsmen.

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>brazil's theme starts playing

>tabbing out broke my borders so I can't see what land I own without changing view

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lmao im so fucked

>>158169781
Same problem in mine, I think there was like two oil on the entire continent

>>158168824
this is why allowing immigration is wrong

>Observation balloons stack
>im bombarding france's capital from 10 tiles away
this is going to be the most retarded shit in multiplayer

>>158169781
They HAVE to fix this. the sparse strategic resources Is utterly retarded? What the FUCK were they thinking? did these people not make the past 5 civ games?
this is not even that hard to understand any motherfucker would see this as a problem.

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>>158169835
>in a tight war
>surrounded by enemies
>click end turn
>nothing died

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>making 230 gold per turn with 2500 in treasury
>"Your treasury is rapidly running dry. Aren't you scared of going into DEBT!?"

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I am afraid

>>158169916
Oh shit I wasn't using those how do they work.

>future tech and future civic don't auto loop
This is real annoying since I have to wait 200 turns to build the space ship things.

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Uhh ghandi can you fuck off please?

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>>158170002

>reach the end of the science tree
>have literally researched everything I can
>block every city from doing research and focus on production to build the space parts
>"Your people don't do much science, anon, I hope you don't fall behind the whole world."

>>158170060
+1 range to any adjacent siege unit
it just happens to stack if you have 9 right next to eachother

So what are the best starting areas in VI? On a hill near a mountain while being near an estuary?

>>158170163
wtf really?

>>158170019
>>158170132
this religion shit is so fucking fucked. how can you do anything against it that early. I couldn't do shit.

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>>158169408
>literally why the fuck would you remove that feature
It had to be done.

What is the point of great people patronage? It costs so god damn much you are only going to get like one with faith and one with money.
It also costs so much to fucking upgrade something it's probably easier to just delete it and rebuild it.

>>158170019
>build the wonder in the lake
>don't get any of the yields since it deletes the only tile it affects

>>158170125
>counterspying is an assigned mission and times out every four turns

I've explored the entirety of my starting continent. Do I need to wait to research Sailing before I can explore other unseen continents?

>>158164984
What are you talking about? Having multiple spaceports lets you complete multiple space victory parts.

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>>158170253
yes

>>158170264
>only one with faith
faith was what I used most to get great people, its not that bad also there is one that reduces the gold cost by like... half

but yeah they mostly want you to use GPP for it

>>158170263
Fucking a multiplayer must of been funny as shit. wow why really would they do this do they hate fun.

>>158165334
>>158165105
that Civilization VI feels both very slow and very fast. You’ll race through history, snatching up technologies and civics far ahead of the AI, but struggle to build an empire as your production queue bottles up with an Industrial District in one city, a wonder under way in another, and a third taking five or more turns to put out a Swordsman so that you can finally address the hordes of barbarians being spawned around you. Meanwhile, you have the technology to build Bank for gold, a Holy Site to keep your religion from being wiped out, and you still have two more settlers to send out to grab Amenities to keep your 15 citizens from rebelling.

>>158170378
Yes unless you want to wait until the very end of the science tree

how do i denounce someone back?

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>tokyo is west
>kyoto is east

>>158170383
thats actually fucking amazing
>single scout walks by from fog of war
>city gets nuked by 6-10 attilery shots from across the continent next turn
>scout caps city

>>158170383
wtf thats retarded
gotta be bugg

>>158170495
Thanks boss. Literally still in my first game and no idea what I'm doing but it's fun I guess!

>>158170350
Huey Teocalli can only be built in a lake.

>shifting production focuses in the cities changes how much rice/wheat you can see on the screen

neat.jpg

>>158170163
does this work with navel units.

I have no clue what I am supposed to do early game. I want to expand, and I want to found a religion. But my build order seems to be shit? I fall behind so quickly.

>>158170575
I know, I was just pointing out how stupid it is. If you build petra on your only desert tile it doesn't do anything either.

How does Terraforming work in 1.3? I got the research and when i went to Terraform a planet it said I needed some other shit.

>>158170523
just rename them :)

>>158170570
Technically you can just hit Optics and embark a land unit but not only is that much slower, you still ned sailing to get to optics

>>158170378

sailing will give you access to units that can travel in coastal waters. chances are the continents arent connected by coastal waters so you'll need to wait until astronomy to explore the whole world

>Japan and Chinwoman are bros
>all the "peaceful" races declare war and denounce me non-stop

I just want to do a science victory

>tfw gandhi has parked a missionary in my holy site so I cant found a religion because my great prophet wont be on the same tile as him

t-thanks firaxis

>>158170760
For some fucking reason it seems like 3 people are actually coded good and the rest are coded like fucking shit.

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Last 7 rolls have been either one-resource starting stars.

Fuck you game

>>158170815

so the ai plays well for once and you complain huh

I know building 'wide' is the best strategy in Civ VI, but I'd still like to try building 'tall' with only two or three high defense cities. How do I speed up border growth? How do I maximize city defense like city states?

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>>158162374

I dunnit fellers. I hon'd.

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>>158170724
Right. Look at dat widdo continent.

>>158170946

Didn't stop jesus from going into the temple and flipping tables.

how much fleet power is needed against a fallen empire?

>>158170993

no honposting allowed

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>>158170815
u gonna cry u lil bitch

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>>158170993
Is there anything uglier than that background?

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THE FUCKING ROMAN CLASSICAL FLUTES/STRING SOUND LIKE "RASPUTIN" BY BONEY M REEEEEEEE

>>158170993
how the fuck are you supposed to get 2500 points

>>158170993
BIG

>>158171119
holy shit i was just thinking that

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GOD DAMN YOU NIGGER SPIES FOR FUCKING SAKE JUST KEEP DOING YOUR ANTI-SPYING MISSIONS UNTIL I SAY OTHERWISE GOD FUCKING FLYING SHIT DAMN IT

FUCK YOU CARAVANS JUST FUCKING KEEP GOING TO THE PLACES I'VE ALREADY ORDERED YOU TO GO OVER 100 TIMES ALREADY FOR FUCK SAKE

WHY CAN'T THIS ALL BE JUST A NOTIFICATION "YOU CAN CHANGE STUFF" INSTEAD OF A FULL FORCED REPETITIVE CHOICE

IT'S NOT LIKE I HAVE 100 SPIES AND A MILLION TRADERS

GOD DAMN SHITTY END GAME MICRO MANAGING I JUST WANT TO SKIP 50 TURNS TO GET MY SCIENCE VICTORY

RRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>158171124

Presumably by gittin gud and maybe there's a multiplier for difficulty. I was only on king.

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THIS POWER IS TOO MUCH FOR ONE MAN

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>can't click and drag anywhere to navigate the tech/policy trees
>can't just right click to exit production screen
HOW HARD ARE THESE BASICALLY QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENTS? CIV V AND BEYOND EARTH HAD THEM

>>158171124
I did a science victory and teched future tech and the civic thing like 40 times before the game ended and I had only like 800 points

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How does this plan look for my districts? I probably should have settled where the Industrial Zone will go and put the IZ where the city is, but hindsight is 50/50

>>158170993
is the corset making her honkers bigger or what

what's the business there

>new game
>spain declares war on me real early
>make an archers and buy an archers
>every warrior he sends at me gets reamed
>vies for peace
>as if I'm going to let your religious shit stand now

How do you guys set up your world? I usually go Huge 8 player continent

Best civ for building tall?

>>158170662
Bump. Need help please.

>>158171593
small continents with default players because i got tired of changing settings every time i rerolled

>>158170993
Why is Nelson Mandela rank 6?
He legitimately ruined South Africa.

>>158171593
I do normal world size and stuff all the civilizations into it.

>>158171568
put the industrial zone as close to cities that already exist and future cities for the aoe production

>>158171669
racist, delete

>>158171279
>FUCK YOU CARAVANS JUST FUCKING KEEP GOING TO THE PLACES I'VE ALREADY ORDERED YOU TO GO

Speaking of which, anyone know exactly what triggers the +1 to diplomatic visibility and bonus to tourism due to trade routes? I had it randomly show up sometimes and vanish other times with seemingly no rhyme or reason, and nothing told me why I sometimes got those bonuses and other times I didn't.

So how do

>we

like the game?

>>158171731
90% good game
10% rage-inducing autismo trigger fucking fix shit goddamn firaxis fuck you

>>158171731
i like it

>>158171571

It's all the glasses of male tears Brianna Wu is drinking there. Corset squishes it upward.

>>158171708
good point. the forest SE of the planned IZ is in the third ring of my second city, so I'll plan on putting one there too

do battering rams not work on walled cities or some bullshit?

How do you even deal with the lack of amenities when your starting location is full of "bonus" resources and no luxury?

>>158171731

ai is a little disheartening to deal with. but i have 15 hours so i guess i don't actually care about that

>>158171731
It has some flaws but overall I like it.

>Spain attacks England, the only civ that's willing to be friends with me
>Start war with Spain to protect England
>get labeled as a warmonger, even by England

fuck this

>>158172001
deal with it until you expand to luxuries or get entertainment areas set up

Whats the early game build order usually?

>>158172098

your people need to puzzle out the diplomatic intricacies of allyship before you attempt to protect your woman friend from the bull

>>158172181
scout builder slinger

>>158171731
Good structure. Good concepts. Some incredibly bad decisions in some design elements that can be fixed by mods or through patches if they concede to the public. The UI needs more detail both in the city and with unit responsiveness, they need to tone down early civ and barbarian aggression, probably undo the change to movement because its a slog now, and possibly make resources and districts interact positively rather than cancel out.

>>158172181
beeline archery
scout warrior settler archer monument

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>>158171731

After just finishing an 11 hour game on king I would say it feels better than current civ-5 (Especially when they get the world congress in holy Christ. Both because I want to share hot tips with other civs since that was cool, and because I want the important "Gossip" to show up somewhere other than the worthless spam you get every turn. "Germany is planning to attack you" is more important than "Germany upgraded one knight to have +7 attack") but isn't blowing my socks off.

It has the potential to be the best civ after patches and expansions though. 4 and 5 were both notably improved with expansions so if that holds true for 6 it could be magical.

One surprise disappointment for me was the soundtrack. Even though I like the music it feels like there's too little of it. And I hate to say it, especially because I hate comfyposting, but civbe is more comfy. The music, the sound effects, and even the retarded indian chick were more calming than civ6. It's a minor complaint but it stuck in my craw a bit.

>>158172287
Not him but does this apply to Civ V too?

>>158172335
civ be has the comfiest and best soundtrack.

>>158170923

All my rolls have been shitty since launch.

Maybe it's just the game.

>>158172247
>and possibly make resources and districts interact positively rather than cancel out.

It does seem like wonders possibly provide strategic resources they're sitting on. I had the unga bunga Germany construction wonder and later learned uranium was on the tile and got uranium from it. Don't know if that only applies to resources that are later revealed, though.

>>158172453

It really does. For all the bad shit in the game it's up there with the Endless games for relaxing strategy play.

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>take kongo capital
>raze it
>wait what
>it's actually razed

Is this a bug or can capitals really be razed?

>>158172349
no, 6 only

>>158172478
in both my games i've been alone on my continent (islands map). not even a city state to keep me and the barbs company

>>158172216

I usually go this one. But I am always left with the
>pottery
question. Do I build a granary to boost pop to 6 for early empires? Or just rush toward empires regardless? When to throw in settler?

>>158172287
I have some success with slingers. They start off as shit, since you cant protect them it doesn't seem from the spearmen trying to kill them. But with the barbar +5
>Barbar attacks it
>slinger shoots them
>warrior attacks
will kill it I think. Gets much better once the slinger gets their first upgrade too. Can do plenty of work with warrior backed up by slinger.

>tfw 18 hours in Civ 6
>still haven't finished a game
whats wrong with me

>>158172536
They can now and its instant.

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>american theme starts playing

>>158163294
have you tried to raze a city anon? it's very tiring desu

>No longer a production queue

It's the little things I miss about 5

>>158172536
They can. In my first game brazil completely reamed my capital, razed it (destroying all improvements and the pyramids I built), and then proceeded to build a new set of pyramids in his own city.

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>>158172536

>Instant razing

That shit makes my fat jiggle with fury. That garbage should be relegated to livestock-grade strategy games like Stardock shit. Remember playing Fallen Enchantress and circling an army around a way more powerful empire and then razing like 5 cities when they attacked me and I did them up the ass and they never recovered.

>weeb friend plays his first game as Japan

>>158172668

Yeah no, razing cities gave the troops the freedom to rape and pillage, generally increasing morale. There's a reason Ivan was so happy when he finally got to have his way with German cities in WWII.

>1st favorite thing Corps and Armies
>2nd favorite thing support units
>3rd favorite thing colonial wars.

>>158171731
shitgame.

already playing the best Civ aka Civ2

>>158172691

There's so much shit that's missing and/or broken in this game. I just don't fucking get it. Did they even learn anything from previous games? Did they not have a single beta tester? Are their devs actually retarded?

>>158172943
>Civ2

MAH NIGGA.

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>>158168383
This guy here

Spain got cocky and decided to throw sand at me while I was on the slide

So I took one of his toys away

Do I keep it? What would I do if I were American