/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

Nukes are fun in 6.

I wish the AI took more into account the potential spread of borders instead of spamming overlap and overlap and overlapping cities.

>>158127874
>>158127874
Is overlapping cities bad in civ6?

>>158127874
Overlap's potentially a positive feature in Civ6. As in, a lot of your late tech gives benefits to cities that are close enough to overlap.

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KING is far too ez
I'm just 3rd Reiching Kongo, and should have just enough turns left to attack the entire Eastern continent.

How fast have you been building new cities? I cant figure out the best time to expand outwards anymore

Why the hell is the Gárde Imperial so good?

anyone else having some serious issues with food?

It seems like 6 with the districts would play similar to the old specialist style but the lack of a civil society tenant equivalent coupled with districts and shit making farmland unusable and very few city buildings that give food makes it hella hard to support a large population.

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>>158127949
no two production buildings are AOE same with amenities district, also border expansion is so slow

pic related factory and power plant bonus from cities near me

>>158128338
do roads not produce the same effect?

Battering rams are really, REALLY powerful.

I WANT AN EARTH MAP

>>158128303
Internal trade routes and planning out your farm sections of each city is important, don't just spread your farm around need them all in one area for bonuses

I've rarely had problems with food only housing

>>158128523
earth map with civs in relevant locations pls

>tfw no Cleopatra waifu

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Do I win if it fills up or something?

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Now this is what I call cucked.
Had to withdraw my settler because of a barb scout that spawned, and the aztecs will move in to steal my spot.

I'm pretty new to Civ, is there any guide or video that explains the most efficient way to do things? I'm just placing shit blidinly most of the time and don't understand how to best plan my cities.

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>>158128664
>tfw she glances at your dick every time she contacts you

>>158128508
Why? I don't get siege support units when you usually just use ranged attacks until melee last hit?

Also is there even a upgrade for battering ram/siege tower? are they still viable in later eras?

Which female civ leader would you fug?

>>158128816

Much more efficient to use the battering ram, I linked it with heavy cavalry and completely shredded the city defenses.

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get fucked france

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>This Aztec Info theme is gives of just an oppressive, unstoppable vibe

It's right - there's no stopping me now


>>158128906
All of them

>>158128906
Fug Cleo
Marry Cat
Kill Vicky

>>158128786
b-but i'm playing vicky

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>Double war declaration on turn 26
Uhuh

How do I make researching shit not take 500 turns and still not advance to modern times too quickly? medieval or sooner is just too comfy

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ok

>>158128751
Barb scouts don't always go for your civilian units.

>>158129084
Not him, but I wouldn't risk a settler on "not always"

Fuck I hate the new movement system.

map type: shuffle
map size: huge
duration: epic

what else lads

Any good general guides out there for each victory type? Im completely lost on build orders, civics, and techs in this one going purely off what I know from V.

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The AI can be quite terrible. Note that this is the industrial era and the only city for all of England. They have been sitting there helpless ever since the medieval era.

>>158129194
World Age: New
Sea Level: High
Resources: Abundant

>>158129280
>map type: shuffle

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>Firaxis makes Xcom EU, civ5, and civBE with all varying degrees of shittitude
>Xcom EU and civ5 are hailed as masterpieces by the normies, earning 95% and 96% user reviews on Steam respectively
>Release Xcom 2 and civ6, both straight up improvements on the earlier games with more dynamic gameplay and less repeating the same "Strategy" over and over until you win
>Xcom 2 user score 76%, civ6 user score 84%

Is Firaxis kill due to normie uprising?

>>158128664
Is it bad that I want to lewd up Catherine more the Cleo? There is just something about her that I just want to bend her over the table, grab her by the hair and go full jackhammer.

>>158129324
I don't know about civ6, but Xcom 2 got flooded with negative reviews just about people crying their machines couldn't run it well at first

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I could either see if I get Culture Victory in 47 Turns or Just fuck it and Sience the shit out of it.

Score win is already mine they have no chance

>>158129197
Domination: Heavy cavalry are op, spam them if you have horses.
If not just go for melee units supported with rams.

Religion: Just get strong faith generation and spam apostles. Very easy although probably tedious on larger maps. Make sure you get the civics from reformed church that makes your apostles stronger.

Culture: Don't bother with tourism until the end, raw culture output plus a resort or two is enough to win

Science: Don't bother unless you just want the achievement, the production costs for the science victory are insane and you could easily win any other victory in the time in takes.

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Please tell me ai doesn't lag behind THIS much on higher difficulties, 2nd highest science gain is 100 vs my 240
king btw

>irl viking longships fucked shit up in the early medieval age
>Literal dogshit in Civ 6 classical age

>>158128816
my rifle armed infantrymen are wrecking cities by using a siege tower

>>158128303
Either place a city where it's got three or four decent bonus resources that will net you food or build a triangle-formation of farms. Once that's done, either build another triangle-formation of farms or use internal trade routes. You can skip a step by making adopting a religion that gives big food bonuses.

That should allow you to support cities that are above 25 in pop.

>>158129017
I should note that they arent even coming with troops, just declare out of noweher and then ignore me. Why.

>Watching everyone doing well
>Im barely keeping up with civs on Prince and King

I apparently have no idea how to place districts or new build orders or civic orders. Im kind of lost here.

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What did she mean by this?

>>158129564
From what I seen so far, it seems like the difficulty is merely one step lower than what it should be. Prince feels like Warlord, King feels like Prince, etc...

>>158129585
so siege towers are never obsolete ?

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>>158129324

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Does anyone know what I have to hack so that I can re-enable achievements while playing mods in the Endless games?

A damned colour palette mod is not a cheat!

>>158129698
why is everyone so ugly in civ 6?

>>158129582
>killing monks and peasants

>>158129746
King feels like settler to me

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>>158129854
wow that's super rude

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>1st game
>get rekt by barbs
>miles behind in everything
>tiny military
>try to make friends
>everyone hates me
>get conquered by an multi nation AI zerg rush

>2nd game
>decide to go full warmonger
>only make military units
>swarm the barbs and everyone nearby
>eras ahead
>most culture and religion
>biggest cities
>everyone loves me

It is clear war is the only option

>>158129746
Really? Not him but I must be retarded because im having a harder time in 6 than I did in 5. Maybe I just dont 'get' it yet.

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>Ghandi ask for Uranium
>He's unfriendly with me
>But in War with Spain who denounced me
>Gave him Uranium

>>158129564
I experienced the same on King, moving on to Emperor now. Lets see if the AI is able of building science districts now..

How long does warmonger pentalty last?

Is there any downsides to accepting gifts from other leaders? peter just sent me some caviar and handjobs..hard to say no

>>158129906
I guess it depends on how well you know the system. If you get how it works (district, religion, culture) and know how optimize it, game becomes much easier. If you don't, it becomes a bit of a challenge.

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>>158129324
XCOM2 was legit bugged. And it's only Firaxis' fault they enable the Overwatch crawl of the previous game AND popularized it by sucking the dick of Beagle and The Long War devs.

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THE ENTIRE CONTINENT BELONGS TO THE AZTEXS WITH THEIR GODS OF FITNESS NOW

>>158130024
forever and ever and ever and ever and ever

and ever

and ever
ever

forever

it will never
go

away

>>158129945
chavs nicked yer chin m8

>>158130129
the fuck are you on about? it goes down pretty quick
if you have the intel you can literally check in each turn and watch it decay point by point

Who's the best civ for culture victory?

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What happened to the demographics view?

I'm playing continents with a standard map size, and god damn these continents are way too big vertically, like there's literally no way to sail around them because they reach the top and the bottom of the map, and this is the case with both of them, so the oceans are just glorified lakes.

Does changing map size help with this or should I just play on islands?

>>158129324
People went to cry about XCOM 2 for a lot of minor reasons, most of which could easily be patched out
Also, concerning the normie argument
Civ V and XCOM EU/EW were for many the first they learned about, and probably quite a lot learned only about the games when they were fully patched with all expansions.
They hadn't learned that Firaxis is a slow starter and needs fucking expansions to make their games great

>>158128138
EMPEROR is weird. First game I lagged behind as the last one, second game I was 1. in pretty much everything. Either the AI is inconsistent or I just improved that fast

can someone recommend fun custom factions in EL?

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Why can I sometimes build farms on grassland/plains (hills) and other times I can't?

>>158130623
once you get the grasp of adjacency bonuses and good wonder requirements you'll outpace ai pretty fast
also, natural wonders are op as fuck

>>158130264
I had fast cultural victory as Rome because I just spammed city projects in every city which generated GPP so I feel like GPP bonus civs aren't even needed when anyone can easily get them by working district projects

also had more work slots because as rome it's easier to expand

>>158130763
Is there a way to see how much stuff projects give?

>>158130623
Does CIv 6 have starting bias for each of the faction? I mean, a good starting location can make or break a game.

>>158128751
>not escorting your settler
You asked for this

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im a casual civ 5 baby and i find civ 6 to be incredibly complex

i mean i played civ because im too dumb for grand strategy

someone please end my life

>>158130856
no but i just waited until democracy to spam them because that government gives a bonus to them

i guess you can check before and after finishing the project but it changes over time so no idea

>>158129251
This happened for England in my game too, I wonder if her agenda to settle other continents is fucking her up. Everyone else expanded fine.

How is capturing cities in VI?
Did they make it easier?

In V I remember it was really hard. Cities were fucking tough.

>>158131064

Much easier provided you build siege equipment like battering rams or siege towers beforehand.

>>158130960
there's absolutely nothing complex about civ 6 except for civilopedia icon being hard to see
>>158131064
>easier
yes

>>158131064
It was. I felt it was too hard personally. Had to ALWAYS set up a bombardment first.

It was easiest in civ 5 vanilla. every patch and dlc made it harder

>>158131064
The fact that specific upgrades are needed in order to shoot nearby threats instead of it being a passive thing from the start of the game makes cities a lot more vulnerable. Even when, the capability can be taken away by smashing down walls. Cities are very vulnerable.

>>158131176

compared to civ v IT IS complex

>>158130960
do it yourself pussy

>>158131339
provided how retarded ai was at defending, it was a good thing
they'll probably do the same with civ 6
>>158131416
my dick is big compared to my pinky
doesn't make it actually big

>>158130437
>civ 5
>great
Yeah if snoring by late-game is great

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How shit is my start? Should I have rerolled? Also general tips I guess.

>>158131168
Even without those it's fucking easy.

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You can't... you can't set explorers to auto-explore in Civ 6?

>>158131736
you can

>>158131736
You can but the fuckers always run into Barbars and stop the auto shit.

There's a small + icon on the units that expands the option to auto explore or delete unit.

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>denounce/friend Congo by ai
>I erased it 10 turns ago
I guess news travels slow

>>158131736
press the + button on the unit baka

>>158131736
are you blind anon
click the little plus sign
actually forgive me, it's not your fault ui is retarded
>>158131605
it's not the worst if you rush sea travel and colonization policies

Anyone else notice that after running Civ 6, the Windows auto-lock and monitor auto-shutoff seem to stop working? Restarting the comp fixes it, but it's weird.

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Ebin meme, Firaxis

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>tfw rome but no iron
Also not sure if Im going to survive this.

>>158132058
works fine for me

>>158132161
Legions don't need iron.

They're pretty OP.

>>158132060
is that always his hidden agenda?

>>158132060
>muh warmongering
every time, what's hte fucking point in even trying any other victory? they're boring as FUCK and you just basically wait around until the end

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>this citystate is taking longer than anything before
I love it

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>>158132257
Yes.

>>158132254
strategic resources other than horses seem really fucking rare in this game

I've yet to have a playthrough where I got ahold of iron before swordsmen became obsolete

>>158132254
Uh nice. Then I can probably win if I survive till them.

>Get Sattelite tech
>can suddenly zoom out further
ebin :D

>>158132257
I thought hidden agendas were suppose to be random, but that would be one Hell of a coincidence.

>>158132348
Even more reason for the legion being ridiculously OP.

>>158132442
TECHNOLOGY

>>158132257
Yes. Nuclear Gandhi has been a meme since Civ II.

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Fucking faggot told me to move my units go fuck yourself

>>158132161
Look for the city state that give all discovered strategic resource if you sutherine, city state bonus are op if you can maintain the relationship, I settle in the middle of buttfuck nowhere everywhere all because that state that gives water as if next to river.

>>158131605
Nothing compared to my start with 2 rice, stone and 1 coffee in the middle of the continent with 2 warmongering civs next door.

>>158132060
i fucking hate this meme to be honest

Is greece good?

>>158132871
Yes.

Can you win by making LOADS OF MONEY in Civ VI? Or is it at least a viable strategy? Best civ to jew the world with?

>>158132327
The punchline of that always makes me angry.
The fuck are they writing.
He specifies plural in the penultimate panel already.

Is it worth it to raze a 2 pop city and pop a settler on that city's spot? I captured that settler just now btw. Do districts and district buildings remain?

>>158133147
districts dont survive razing, no.

>>158132871

The Poland of Civ 6. Pericles specifically.

>>158133147
If the city's right where you want it, why would you raze it?

>the fucking spy mission sound
i swear i jump a little in my chair every time

Haven't played yet, how are the districts?

It's the thing I was most hyped for.

>>158132327
civ is incredibly popular amongst normies and ghandi is probably one of the most well known historical figures

the comic is bad

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This was taken from one of the developer's livestreams and I think it would be interesting to share.
The 1-2-3 Rules basically goes as follows:
>You need 1 housing for every 1 population.
>You need 1 amenity for every 2 population.
>You can have 1 district for every 3 population.

Good to remember as you are expanding.

>>158131064
Biggest issue with civ 5 was how cities + garrison would always one-shot a unit per turn.

In civ 6 you can attach a couple of battering rams to your melee units and go to town.

>>158133229
Isn't there a malus in civ 6 for having cities with a different culture?

>>158133293
Pretty good. Loads of planning involved to minmax them, if you are so inclined.

>that feel when

>>158132771
Everyone does. It's a meme to hate that meme.

>>158133293
Fresh and interesting.
Tile management is actually management now.
No longer improve everything, need to think about where certain things will go.

No EL feeling of massive cities though.

I tried a continents game as America. Pretty fun, but there's no way I can lose now.

Are large islands/small continents still fun in 6?

>>158132615
I had that earlier. Border friction, trying to fix relations, and he tells me to move my army away from him. I do so, and he attacks me a few turns later.

>>158133328
>ketchup on a banana
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>158133328
How do you get amenity early game?

>>158133345
They're set to "occupied" and are basically half as effective until you get the civ you took it from to cede it or just wipe that civ out entirely.

>>158133463
No. AI cannot into navy, so playing on islands is pointless. Pangaea or bust.

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>great admiral that spawns a free battleship spawns in a fucking lake
>can't move him to another city
>i now have a fucking battleship in a fucking lake
Thanks firaxis
not that i needed it
>>158133618
luxuries

>>158133618
luxuries

>>158133225
pericles isn't broken like poland

gorgo is better than him anyway

Who is your favorite civ and why? Civ 6 only.

I just want them to add Theodora to the game
I jacked off to her when i was 14

>>158133954
Russia
Buying tiles is fucking expensive now so I like getting extra territory

>>158133618
amenity = happiness
luxuries give it

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so why isnt there a vox populi link in the OP?
that mod is fucking amazing.

pic not related

>>158133954
Cleopatra is my waifu

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>>158130006

>>158133225
Rome seems better honestly.
FREE ROADS
FREE MONUMENTS
NO IRON SWORDSMEN
WHO BUILD FREE FORTS

FUCK

>>158133954
Rome
because it's motherfucking Rome you stupid barbarian

>>158133954
I like Trajan and Montezuma.

>>158133954
I would say Montezuma but after my first playthrough he felt so underwhelming

>>158133760
Can you not transfer great admirals between cities? You could do that for other great people.

>>158133954
Greece for the extra policy.
It's nice to be able to shit out great people.

>>158134226
I think that's his free battleship, not the great admiral

>>158134045
settling tundra cities even worth it as Russia? what improvements can you put on tundra?

>>158134226
Can't move units into a city from lake tiles
>>158134285
admiral is consumed to create a thing

>>158133954
Genghis Girl, I love to conquer.

Is it just me or the map is actually smaller than Civ 5?

>>158133760
Why do you have so many farms? Is it even worth to get cities that big if it means they have shit all production?

>>158134285
Well if that was all it was then it's his own fault for not moving the admiral before making the battleship

>>158134360
That's strange, I guess because it's not "coast"

>>158134458
What else am i gonna build there? And i wouldn't call 60-100 hammers per turn bad production, either
also farms are cute

>>158134458
Production comes from factories and power plants anyway

>>158133954
pericles, because he's just pretty good in general, and he has a cool hat

also LMAO 2 HORSE, because LMAO 2 HORSE

>go for cultural/science victory so don't really bother with getting many battle units at the start
>meet Saladin after like 10 turns
>declares surprise war against me for no reason after 5 more turns
>sends like 20 camelfuckers to my capital
>develop a couple of archers and demolish his shitty army that for some reason used it's turns for running around my capital like a bunch of retards
>P-please accept this peace treaty
>demolish his capital with 4 archers

Firaxis sure got the typical mad mudslime down this time.

>>158134682
Always build a good army at the start or the AI will almost definitely attack you because of the low warmonger penalty in the early eras

>>158130960
fuck off catposter

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The fuck? Did england just randomly teleport a unit right into my lands or how the fuck did he move there in 1 turn.

>>158134682
>>declares surprise war against me for no reason after 5 more turns
>>sends like 20 camelfuckers to my capital
>>develop a couple of archers
Does anyone else think this is a pretty big bloody issue with Civ games

You shouldnt be able to just shit out armies when shit hits the fan so easily. Its almost always better to just ignore soldiers and wait until war happens before raising troops.

>cant spam warriors now that I've discovered iron
>no iron around me

wtf i hate iron now??

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>Exploring with Galley
>Find this
Well then

discovering a city state first and getting a free envoy is so fuckin overpowered with those bonuses

>>158134682
>go for cultural/science victory so don't really bother with getting many battle units at the start
that's fucking retarded anon

Hey /civ4xg/

I don't play civ games a lot, but I thought I should try out Civ VI.

I'm sure there have been a hundred questions like this already, but in general, how do you guys feel about Civ VI in comparison to Civ V and Civ IV?

What do you guys think is better/worse in VI than V or IV?

>>158135101
Too bad you're not Norway, you can grab those guys from the coast

>>158135147
I have autism.

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>Prince
>Doin pretty good on my continent
>Building a ton of wonders and getting a good infrastructure going
>Look at demographics
>Behind in science, culture, and religion
>China had an entire continent to himself, complete with a majority of the city states
>Has been snowballing and finally caught up
>Unless the AI shits itself at the last moment I'll probably lose this game

Feels bad. Genuinely bad. I can't believe I'm about to lose on Prince.

>Civ 6 managed to make Nords even worse than Civ 5 Danes
How

what the fuck is the point of great walls

>>158135172
>worse
ai
>better
everything else but it doesnt matter because you can beat ai on deity on your 2nd playthrough

>>158135236
4X - exploring, expanding, exploiting, exterminating.
SimCity isn't how you 4X.

>>158135147
>>158135051
Not getting units at the start is a bad idea.
You will get rekt by barbs and buying into some archers isnt going to help you.

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Send help

>>158135172
Because you're new I would just get VI

Basically VI is V but slightly better. IV is more complicated, arguably different from VI and V, so I wouldnt start there.

Also, look at Endless Legend and Stellaris. They might be more your style.

>>158134682
>No reason
>low military score

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>4 more to go
>Peter attacks
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>158135301
Most people are not good enough at this game to beat deity on their second play through

That includes most people reading this thread

Okay, so I did some testing, and I think there is no reason to not settle cities.
As in, you should settle every last spot you can, and continue settling until you run out of land.

The way the happiness works in this game is that the game always gives any new luxury to the city that needs it the most.
Also cities can grow to pop 2 before they need a luxury.

So if you settle a city and keep it at pop 2, it will never use any amenities, and won't weaken your other cities.
You can have literally unlimited amount of pop 2 cities and the only thing they do is make builders, settlers and districts slightly more expensive, which is negated by your growing production.

>>158135469
But VI has no 2hu mods.

>>158135448
>Rome
>2 legions
>3 cities
What are you, fucking gay? Go play india or some other kiddo civ

>tfw birdniggers suddenly cover your gaia world when you colonized with your humans

I don't like this beinf outnumbered in my own empire thing

>>158135567
I beat civ5 deity regularly, and I lost to civ6 king in my second game.
Scythia ran away with it, I had to fight to prevent their religious victory, and they had more tanks and helicopters than me.

Turns out you can't just defend your own land and nibble at your neighbors, taking their shit, if there is a juggernaut controlling half the planet just across yonder mountains.

>>158135567
i assume majority of the thread at least played civ5 on at least king
am i wrong in this assumption

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Also, how do I check where my city is (most likely) going to expand in terms of tiles and how long there's left before it does so? Could've find it in Civipedia, and the UI isn't exactly being a friend either.

>>158135779
you can't
enjoy the quality ui
>tfw too poor to buy the game so i'll never get the mods to fix it

>>158135690
Thats why you take slaves anonsan

>>158135778
>>158135721

>>158135690
>Allowing Migration
>Allowing Xenos
>Allowing Xeno migration

>>158136036
that just sounds like bad luck, you had unwinnable deity games in civ5 as well
flashbacks to discovering Shaka who already captured 2 capitals

>>158136183
That was on King though, not Deity

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>>158133954
From what I've played Sumeria seems to be my favorite civ, steam-rolling with war carts in the ancient era is really fun. Barb bonus is actually pretty neat and getting no warmonger bonus for joining a war is great for pillaging stuff.

Whats the benefit of having other species immigrate to your planets?

Playing as Human xenosluts.

>>158136183
My unwinnable Civ5 games are isolated rationalism AI, most notably Korea.
If there is some world conquering force, I can normally fight them while I win science.

In this version winning science or culture is very slow, and winning religion is something the AI can brute force if you aren't a religious power yourself.

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>>158135625
No i'm not gay, turns out she likes me.

>>158136219
oh sorry i can't read haha

why is stone so fucking bad

>>158135448
MANY HORSES
HANDLE IT

>>158129583
Dumb logic.
>spend $80 now on digital deluxe and get the game and future expansions/dlc for free
>get to enjoy the game as it goes through successive changes
>the game's fine right now, will still improve
>what if you don't have any other games you want to play now to reallocate time to until 20-fuckin-20?

>>158136268
This.

Going full GIRUGAMESH is fucking fun.

PSA
If an ai finds a relic in a ruin, they will sell it for dirt cheap early game
Saladin just sold me a relic he found for 100 gold and im the motherfucking kongo

>Turn 18
>A barbarian spearman, 3 horsemen, and an archer horse rider have spawned around the camp I sent my warrior+slinger to clear
What in the ungodly fuck.

>>158135779
>literally no ui element indicating border growth
lolbabs will defend this

>>158136346
Free population, large diplomatic bonus from the race they come from

I would be careful how you go about it though, ethnic divergence has gotten a major buff recently (or I guess nerf?) so pops are far more likely to be divergent than homogeneous which can lead to a lot of segregated pops.

Its best you play a race thats based around reducing divergence if you want to invite/take over as many aliens as possible.

>>158136353
>Korea
every single game i ever had they would take piety first, fail to actually found a relegion and generally suck dick
>>158136510
ai would ask me for 30 gpt to give my spy back, then agree to just 100 gold
there's something wrong with it

>>158135448
Scythia is going to need a nerf, that two units for the price of one is just crazy

Boys who do I play now? I've played Norway (I'm shit with them). I've played Rome (I went super war hungry after I built about 5 cities and just went for blood). I've also played Russia. (Did really good with them but I made nothing out of their bonuses I could have been playing a blank civ and had the same outcome.

Please suggestions. (I'm not too keen on playing America though)

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He needs a buff.

>>158136641
see
>>158136268
>>158136502

>>158136575
I think everyone agrees that the UI is not in a good state right now

>all those production bonuses to mines over the game
>zero to quarries so they're shit

i just harvest stone mid/late game they are shit

>Cleopatra isn't an inbred average to homely looking white woman with a big nose

what did they mean by this

>>158136615
Every single game I had they would wonder up hard, conquer their neighbor and be 5 techs ahead all game and win space. Also they prioritize rationalism as third tree, and with wonders they have the culture to fill it, so competing is mathematically impossible.

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>>158136641
Monty. He's kinda like Drakken in EL - you want to immediately attack your closest neighbour for free workers and keep the war rolling on. The hardest part is warmongering and defending your freshly conquered cities from the barbarian hordes at the same time.

>>158136720
>greeks
>white

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How fucked am I?

>>158136720
>Ancient Greeks/Macedons
>White

>>158136824
Depends on how long they spend circling your capital uselessly instead of attacking it

>>158136543
>oh shid Sid never told me id be gedding Benis'd :DDDD

who the fuck is sid meyer

>>158137071
My dad.

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>>158137071
this guy

I've noticed in my own game, and in others games posted, a lack of late game strategic resources in cities.

And I realize now what could be causing it.

Districts aren't like cities they don't work resources that they're built atop of.

Are people actually removing resources early on by building districts atop of them?

>>158137135
who the fuck is this guy

>>158137071
the man who sold the world

>>158136905
Can confirm. Every time the AI has attacked me in this game they circle the city without hitting it for some reason.

>>158137190
sid meier

>>158137190
it's sid meyer

>>158137190
Sid Meyer.

I just realised you can zoom in on rivers and see which way they're running.

Neat.

this civ game has NOWAIFUS

what the fuck

Vicky is the least bad one, followed closely by Cleopatra and then it just goes downhill all the way

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>brazil's theme plays

why cant i build farms on tundra next to river

>>158136719


I feel that most bonus resources are meant to be eventually harvested and replaced by a district. since you know there's not going to be strategic resources underneath it.

Also theres a few late game wonders that boost bonus resources. but only a few.

>>158137328
Catherine has a great body.

Too bad about her face.

>>158135051
Nigga DO YOU EVEN FUCKIN HISTORY?
The US had no standing army for half its existence.

Until the modern era when enemies became able to full-scale invade you literally overnight, many nations had small or non-existent standing armies and only spent money on military when they had an emergency. They might also employ the draft or conscription or signing bonuses to get a surge of enlistment, train up a bunch of dudes, fight their war, then send most of them home to get back to work on the domestic sphere.

Stationing 1 unit per city, 2-4 in your capital, and maybe littering scouts around during peace is accurate to history. To be more accurate, after you buy/produce a ton of troops for war, you'd delete a lot of them to save cash and put them back to work elsewhere.

So what Civ really needs is an option to retire standard military units for productivity and economic bonuses.

>>158137310
Your river is running away? Wat'er terrible thing!

Come on... lets face it lads... its kinda shit...
turn 100 and I'm already bored out of my mind,
the AI is borderline idiotic, and I warned that "agenda" thing was bullshit, it will just plainly declare war out of nowhere without any consideration,
and it also means it will ALWAYS act retarded in the same way, game after game, I don't even think that "hidden" angenda is randomized either, completely pointless
district building is a neat stolen idea, but badly implemented, still needs to grow a lot more on it,
they managed to get rid of the worker while still keeping, so for god sake put this shit together
barbarians are fucking nuisance as hell, and they didn't even include a "barbarian aggressiveness" like in every fucking other civ game
the AI blatantly cheats to keep up, I've even spotted AI having nonexisting resources...

yes... its much better than Civ5 at launch, but that is standard to hold whatsoever...
Civ 5 even after all dlc and buncho is still one of the worsts games ever, possibly the worst in the franchise considering timeframe and reception

>>158137390
You can only build farms on plain and grassland tiles, as far as I am aware.

>>158137430
us also didnt exist for 90% of the world history

>>158135246
This is why nukes exist, anon.
Nuke his biggest cities and then go full defensive and complete your victory objectives while China dumps resources on military to go to war with you.

>>158137430
>Nigga DO YOU EVEN FUCKIN HISTORY?
Do you even video games

Because this is one, history is irrelevant

best faith building lads?

>>158137540
a.k.a. the unimportant part

>>158137447
>one of the worsts games ever
Oh child.

>>158135448
>tfw you rushed pikemen as soon as you saw Scythia and 1 pikeman is worth 3 horsemen

>>158137567
>you can reach atomic era in 16th century
>but muh historical standing army

>>158137447
I got a refund the day after it released

I'm playing as Freddy, why the fuck is part of Kalinka constantly in the background?

>>158137201
i thought he died alone
a long long time ago

>>158137447
>Civ 5 even after all dlc and buncho is still one of the worsts games ever
Civ 5 is the best-selling Civ game ever and places highly in the steam charts for hours played on a weekly basis

What is your definition for "worsts game" because by any metric that's a huge success

What do you literal niggers think are the best pantheon beliefs in Civ 6?

>>158137430
you literally can delete units for cash and upkeep savings.

You really only lose upgrades. which may not matter if late game promotion buildings can raise a soldier up to the same level easily.

>>158137175
They do, actually. I just mined uranium with my 10000 years old Religion District.

>>158137447
I disagree.

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16 Turns

Will I make it /civ4xg/?

>>158137175
As far as I know you can't build a district on top of a strategic or luxury resource that you can see, but if a strategic resource that you can't see pops up under a district you get access to it

>>158137732
So by that logic Trump is a better person than you, because he has more money than you and money is all that matters.

I realize you're new here but /v/ and /vg/ treat games regardless of their popular or financial success. People look at games here purely as a game and in comparison to other games its similar to. Unless people are shitposting in which case fuck you we can do what we want.

why THE FUCK is the terrain in this game completely fucking flat

>>158137732
Fucking this. Civ 5 is better than Civ 4 in my opinion, and Civ 4 was fucking outstanding.

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Anons, i finally understand how the USSR fell
All this internal trade does barely anything

Looks like unless you cap the original capital - i'll have to score victory it

>>158137732
Excuse me. I speak /v/, allow me to translate.

When one of them says "ZOMG ITS THE WORSE EVER!!!1" he actually means "I didn't enjoy it very much."

>>158132327

wowowow

>pointless introductory panel
>literally dedicating a panel to familiarizing the reader with FUCKING GANDHI
>epic gandhi in civilization is a warmonger meme hahahahahaHA.
>several

>>158137567
Prove it, nigga. Prove that claim.
It's realistic as fuck and it makes logical sense. Why build military 200 years early because you suspect you may eventually be attacked? Why NOT save resources until you need an army and then surge recruitment?

>>158137802
I know you can. That's why I said "to be more accurate you'd delete units".
But that's a waste of resources because it'd take dozens or hundreds of turns of upkeep to balance out what it cost to make a unit against its upkeep cost.
Therefore, imo, we need a way to retire these units without just deleting them. A way to turn them into, say, an encampment improvement, like "this encampment has +10 defense per unit retired from it" or "you gain production equal to the power of military units retired in a city".

>>158137915
>So by that logic Trump is a better person than you
At least half of the retards on 4chan unironically think Trump is a better person than the rest of us tbqhwy. I don't, mind you, I think he's a faggot, but many here would.

>>158137175
I've had two uraniums and a niter appear under my cities. I think it's just shit luck

>>158137915
he is tho

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MOSCOW IS MINE

>>158137915
Nah you're the one who's shitposting here. Back to /v/ with you

>>158132327
Gandhi actually did sleep with naked young girls all the time.
He claimed it was to test his chastity. He'd get naked and cuddle with them and supposedly just not have sex, to prove how committed he was.

>>158137915
Please prove that Trump isn't a better person than you are.

Take your time, I'll wait.

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so what is the overall sentiment Civ 6? Worth the 80 bucks?

Civ III player btw

>>158138191
moscow isnt the capital

>>158138039
>Prove it, nigga. Prove that claim.
Okay

This is a video game. And history is irrelevant in it.

>>158137678
well done boi

>>158137602
>>158137732
civ5 is shit unless you're some prepubescent teenager that begun playing civ when 5 came out
which admittedly most steam players are....
the popularity is just a question how easily available steam made things

hell, back in a day I had to buy Civ 4 TWICE, because the first CD went missing....
and this is coming from someone who basically still pirates everything

>>158138282
>so what is the overall sentiment Civ 6?
It's ok, but needs a lot of fixing.

>Worth the 80 bucks?
Nope.

>>158138256
1: i'm better

that was easy my dude you're going to have to try harder than that

>>158138192
Not even the guy you were replying to, just pointing out you're a moron for thinking that the quality of a game is determined by scores or money.

>>158138256
>>158138071
Wow. Case in point.

>>158138307
>hurr everyone who disagrees with me is underage

Ah, so you're just a shitposting /v/irgin. Thanks for clearing that up.

>>158138307
you sound like a giant niggerfaggot

2 barb camps at the start of my island game is NIGHTMARISH

>>158138370

cheers bruv. thanks

>>158138307
I enjoyed IV more than V too but there's no denying Civ V's success so Firaxis has no good reason not to run with the mechanics that have proven so successful

The problem is most of the things in this post >>158137447 are just whining and frankly dumb opinions, the diplomatic AI/agendas complaint is about the only one that actually matters

Especially that last one, the AI has always cheated in Civ games since the original, but the "nonexistent resource" is probably just a system you didn't understand

>>158138289
I know

>>158137732
>>158138307
ohhh and let me add a little detail.... I fucking hate civ5 and I bought it.... (after years and the all dlc package went on 90% sale)
so it really doesn't mean that much....

why I hate it:
- it gets boring REALLY fast,
- game doesn't challenge you
- fucking terrible mod support
- fucking terrible mp support
- bad gameplay design everywhere

I wanted to like it, but only good thing it had going was the technical upgrade, hex grid and graphics...
I couldn't stand playing it more than a few hours and end up always uninstalling afterwards

>>158138096
>>158137913

Oh so my two continent just doesn't have oil at all then.

actually there's barely any all over the the entire globe as far as i can see. just two in ocean tiles.

>barbarians keep spawning everywhere
>cant find the encampments anywhere
no notifications for these was a fucking amazing idea firaxis

>>158138659
>the AI has always cheated in Civ games since the original
Not him but repeating a failure does not make it acceptable.

>>158138697
nobody cares about your assholish oh-im-so-smart posts
go away

>>158138697
>I dont like the game so obviously it's terrible
jesus christ

I have a question to people who are bitching about civ. Why are you still bitching and not playing something else? I can't stand the UI, so I still haven't played more than an hour or two, but why come and whine about the same shit over and over and over?

>>158138859
>I have a question to people who are bitching about [Insert anything here]
I mean, you browse 4chan. You know the people here bitch about everything

Why are you surprised.

Is it better than vanilla Civ 5?

>>158138697
>bad map design everywhere

What

>>158138731
They could certainly tighten up the AI so it makes less obvious tactical misplays but they're never going to get one that can compete with a human player in a game like Civ

>>158138423
Hugely successful games are generally not "the worsts ever", I'm just saying. They might not be for you but I was disputing "the worsts ever" line in particular. They must have -something- going for them to get that far. Civilization V is in my opinion mediocre but it's far from "one of the worsts games ever".

>>158138859
because people waited for this game, hoped it would be good and bought it
then it didn't quite live up to expectations and people want to vent, and some still enjoy it depsite the flaws
please contact your closest psychologist and take an autism test if you don't understand it

>>158138937
Because it usually only lasts a couple hours, until the topic of bitching changes. It has been two days.

>>158137447
The bones are there and better than Civ 5. With mods it'll be better overall.

How does work ethic belief work? +1% production for each follower. Is that +1% for each follower in that city or global?

>>158138952
Easily.

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It only took 490 Turn

Never fucking again

What are the new good ethos for stellaris ?

Always played as collectivist spiritualist

>>158138842
mate, I was the oldie forums when civ5 launched back in a day....
everyone was fucking hyped to shit and then suddenly major player/modders went dipshit to how bad it was
some of those hardcore players left to never be seen back again
some others decided to stick civ4 and modding,
point is most of the people how really jumped in the "civ5 is cool" were people new to the genre, and that's a fact
and still the consensus was that even with dlc, the game was better and sort a playable.... but still not good....

>>158139158
congrats on beating settler difficulty my man

>>158139032
gee is almost like a new civ game came out or something

anon this
>VI IS THE BEST
>VI IS SHIT
is going to go on for months now

>>158138859
> what is autism
and the fact that I like to bitch ass and say racial slurs at anonymous people

if you have religion but not going for religion victory just for bonuses how many holy sites should you have? are the buildings even worth it

What's the best pantheon/religion combo generally speaking?

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>gain +2 movement when in enemy territory
>as an earlygame unit, when territories are small and the vast majority of the map is neutral
>worse than a swordsman when defending
>in a game where good defensive play is the key to winning higher difficulties
>180 production

Meanwhile Samurai are fucking busted.

>>158139401
Depends on what you're using faith for, the primary use for a holy site is faith generation

>>158139431
There's no one solid set of beliefs they all help you with different things

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This fucker is an embarrassment to the noble imperial lineage. His forefathers are spinning in their graves as this spineless Ding Dong motherfucker causes the downfall of the imperial navy.

>>158139484
>the vast majority of the map is neutral
I don't know about you but I tend to get a lot of forest and jungle and hills which are all things that make 2 extra move good

>>158139538
>actually starting in the Sol System

>>158137798
i just build a 6 faith holy site in on a desert tile with desert folklore. it's still pretty good. It all depends on your land layout now since faith generating pantheons arent nearly as necessary as in 5.

Faster border growth is basically the new god king though. You pick it whenever you dont know which to pick or when your land doesnt support anything. It's a safe pick.

>>158138290
Prove it.
The game's called "civilization", you play as civilizations from throughout HISTORY, the game is packed with historic quotes, you trace the evolution of civilization as it develops technologies and policies. They know which technologies and policies to include via study of HISTORY. The game is a parallel earth history simulator.

Prove that history is irrelevent to a game built on world history. Go on.

>>158138972
> bad gameplay design
is that thing when decide that brazil likes jungle, but jungle is not appealing to cities

btw anyone noticed the map generation is kinda bad too,
I tried playing on fractal map, but it generated a entire continent of desert....
and continent map, there is a practically straight line, 3 tile wide of jungles

anyone else have a bug where they cannot choose where their nukes strike after the first one?
I picked an enemy city for my first nuke use, and EVERY other nuked I launched, regardless of where it was launched from or the target I chose, hit that same city.

>>158139484
>find a civ with coastal territory
>sail berserkers over to their coast
>proceed to ravage their butthole before they can bring their troops back from their inland borders

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so i pirated civ vi and this error kept popping up.

I have tried everything.

>I already have this file on both 64 and 32, they had a mini lock which i removed after checking on security in properties
>un+reinstall both the game and C++ 2015
>Reinstalling it in Local disk C (same problem happened with skyrim, this was the solution surprisingly)

I kind of gave up. At least the soundtrack is pretty good. Have fun playing VI lads.

if I want to play multiplayer with a pirated copy, is a LAN connection through something like hamachi the only way?

every SINGLE unique improvement is so fucking shit

hills are 100% mines great tiles
section of your city should be farm cluster for bonus food next to eachother
rest are for districts/wonders

no space for your shitty unique improvements that give SHIT yields

>>158139263
There are lots now, they have all been rebalanced and its pretty fair.

But here are my favorite three

>Sex, pops and religion
>Fanatic Spiritualists, Theocratic Republic, Agriarian pops

>Energy Jews
>Fanatic Individualist, Plu. Oligarchy, Thrifty pops

>Diplomatic
>Fanatic Xenophiles, Direct Democracy, Charismatic pops

The sexs one is great. You produce pops insanely fast and get bonuses to ethical divergence so you can absorb other races and have them convert to your sex crazed society.

>>158139035
but that's the point of I what I saying...
don't fucking compare this with civ5 because that's by no means a standard....
civ5 was so bad its release was nearly a shitstorm as the last simcity was....
civ6 is not nearly as bad as that, but being honest.... its not good either.... face it

>>158139939
you need C++ Redistribute 2012 and 2015 and they were really bitchy to install for me, I had to restart my computer a couple of times to finish the installation

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Why are the production costs so high.

I have a fully upgraded industrial zone and 3 quarries and it still says I need 50 turns to make a modern wonder.

>>158140003
Unique improvements are good in your small cities after you went really wide

>start up a game as Pericles
>nice start, copper, coffee, gems nearby, on a river near the coast
>neato.jpg
>continent is Kazakhstania

Dropped