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BB > 1 > 3 > Demon's > 2

This is the objective buff appearance list.

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>invade post pontiff
>ganksquad
nothingnewhere.jpg
>hanging around the stair
>spamming acid surge
>mfw
Come on, really? It's NOT EVEN OUT YET

>>158086012
>divine weapon instead of cmw

YOU HAD ONE JOB

>>158086012
BW is white now

>>158086204
>invade post pontiff
>almost always duelfags
>can't attack the host without all the other reds gangbanging me
>dueling other reds earns me nothing AND i'm at a hp deficit because i'm not a red summon

>>158086338
>knowingly invade a popular dueling spot
>complain about people dueling

Nigga just invade some where further on.

just skimmed the previous thread, i'm assuming the game is still fucked as before.

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>>158086250
Hey you're right. Fancy that.

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Should confess it's second time when I liked metatrash after Saif. Hope From will nerf Follower Saber in first day patch so I can use it without hurting pride.

Pyros are banned from FCs

im a spear chuken nigger lmfao

>>158086424
ultras slightly more viable because fast weapons users can;t just mash r1 anymore hoping for easy 2 hit stunlocks

>>158086424
It's fucked in completely fresh new ways.
Long story short, the new HA system is really bad screws over everything.

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FC is over, thanks for coming, everyone. It was fun to watch.

>>158086437
Is it that good? Looks like a discount cartus but with a better WA.

>Get a blue summon very single time I FC,
>Happened enough that I have 32 spare ears
>Also get invaded more often
Does putting down a red sign boost connectivity or something?

So how did poise change?

>>158085895
How about stepping in as the dumb HA ends his slow ass predictable swing and then slapping him with two guaranteed R1s for 700+ damage with your superior length and speed 500AR curved cock?

>>158085797
Exactly, just enough to also get 40vit and 30end at SL125, or you can even go to 135 for 50vit or 40end since you can still match up with people who are lower than SL120

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>tko Monro will like new allahu akbar bow for sure

>>158086558
Basically yeah.
It's shorter than the carthus, only slightly longer than the falchion. Has about 450AR when refined. Moveset is 100% identical to the carthus sword outside of the WA, but the WA is crazy strong.

I imagine once people get used to the WA, it'll all but disappear because that's the only gimmick it really has and it's a downgrade in every other way.

>>158086643
hyper armor got buffed and the effect poise has on it was also buffed

>>158086643
It became even more shit than it was.

>>158086420
Pontiff is one of the funnest places to invade, when you don't get a shitty fucking fight club that would be better off somewhere else. Hell, that's not even the best area for a FC, I don't know why people do it. Water Reserve would be better, but that's slightly harder for people to unlock.

There's just something so fun about the chaos of actual invasions post-pontiff. Aldrich Faithfuls, the occasional fingered world with even more spirits and blues popping in. It's a damn shame that duelfags have to fuck it up. Ought to just stick to High Wall.

>>158086012
>das1 slb, dmb and fire resin still not topped

That is, if we don't count BB.

Does anyone else here play at 1440p? My DaS3 always causes my desktop to become nothing but a black screen when exiting the client or alt-tabbing and I can't do anything about it. I have to manually reset my computer at this point.

>>158086439
why

Why does Dark Souls 1 armor graphics/textures look so much better than 2/BB/3?

What's the point of playing a mage in Dark Souls 3 in NG rather than just leveling other stats then using magic in NG+ when you can finally get 60 INT without dying in a single hit?

>>158086752

Set all your graphics to low and report back.

>>158086558
WA hit for 800+damage combo. In worse situation it can hit you for 1600 damage because of roll catch

>>158086643

hyper armor got hugely nerfed globally on everything but ultras
the heavier the weapon class, the better the hyper armor
as in, a great hammer will win against an UGS, UGS will win against halberd / greatsword, etc

the effect of poise on hyper armor was buffed
but poise from anything but super heavy armor was nerfed, as was yhorm's / wolf ring / lothric spear
cloth gives basically no poise now

>>158086840
I can't even load the game now after the last patch. The game just loads as a black screen.

I read that the only way to fix this is to revert the game to 1080p.

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>>158086752
game runs 'fine' for me at 1440p
had to turn some other shit down to get ~60fps though

>>158086694
If anything it seems like the fun alternative since it has less nominal strength and reach but a better moveset.

>>158086673
>Exactly, just enough to also get 40vit and 30end at SL125, or you can even go to 135 for 50vit or 40end since you can still match up with people who are lower than SL120
So the whole point of going to reddit and all other social media and spreading that the meta is SL120 is just so you can go to sl135 and stomp on shitters?

>>158086830
>Why does Dark Souls 1 armor graphics/textures look so much better than 2/BB/3?
Because you're crazy?

>>158086920
>but poise from anything but super heavy armor was nerfed, as was yhorm's / wolf ring / lothric spear
>cloth gives basically no poise now
i understand that they did this so heavy armor (and vit) wasn't worthless
but i really liked the aesthetic of light armors ;_;

>install new patch
>infinite loading screen on character load
what the fuck do i do

>>158086830

Consistency. DaS2/3 are a terrible mishmash of old and low res textures. I don't know why you would say BB doesn't look good though.

Reminder that Carthus is left untouched and still has its 490AR with superior moveset, speed, reach, stamina consumption and bleed while all other meta weapons got nerfed
Reminder that HA weapon builds will now need to spend a lot of points into VIT for heavy armor to be able to trade
Reminder that Carthus is gonna cuck literally everything else even harder now

>>158087000
The game ran fine for me for the past while, but now the problem is that it just doesn't load when launching from Steam. It stays a black screen until I stop the process on task manager.

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>>158086830
because you're using DSfix and can easily upscale the textures to 4k

>>158086547
Thank you for hosting!

>>158086923

I get something like that too after the latest patch, but i can close down DaS3. Try creating a new savefile then, perhaps?

>>158086547
Thanks for hosting! Had a great time!

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>>158087127
Reminder that most Pyromancies break hyper armor now.

>>158087157
i get a white screen for maybe 10 seconds after launching, but that's it
alt tabbing works fine too

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>>158087159

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>>158086012
Opinions on the Pillars of the Souls Community?

parting flame confirmed for mediocre
worse than regular damage wise, basically just ring of the evil eye if you think about it.

>it is inferior to the normal pyro flame for spell buff, but not too far behind.
>As you kill stuff with the PPF you will find a yellow "Echo" come from a body and stick to your character, once this happens you can use the WA to consume it for an estus flask charge

>>158087069

If it's any solace to you, medium armour is fucked as well.

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>>158086830
Probably >>158087159

But at the same time DaS1 has fantastic art direction. The world feels colorful and alive but dead/dying, the threatening encounters are intimidating but the calm moments are comfortable enough to believe someone would live in and think was great.

>>158086643
Most weapons with HA had the active time of their HA improved. Ultras most specifically have HA start earlier and last longer. Maces got HA while 2H, too

They also rebalanced poise damage such that small weapons, like straightswords and curved swords, now have a very difficult time breaking HA, but that most larger things can consistently break HA in a single hit.

The poise value of heavy armour was greatly increased, so stacking 30-50 poise on a high-vitality build is actually practical. Conversely, the poise given by the wolf ring, lothric spear and Yhorm's greatshield got nerfed hard

So now we're at a point where maces and greatswords can interrupt ultra weapons in 1 hit and basically negate the existence of their HA, and HA requires a meaningful stat investment that shoehorns you into wearing pieces from a pool of 7 "poise armour" sets in order to be even nominally effective against most weapons in the game.

>>158086830
>armor graphics/textures look so much better than 2/BB/3
>BB
>3
Bait

>>158087309
What am I looking at?

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>Ceatus and Demon Fist now swing faster
BUT
>only one handed
Why?

>>158087061
>>158087373
forgot that /dsg/ plays on console

>>158087226
Don't think that's the problem. It just doesn't load when I launch it from Steam. The Banco logo doesn't even display, just a black screen.

>>158087279
Used to be my case except alt-tabbing caused my whole desktop to become black forever until I hard reset my computer.

I'm gonna update my gpu drivers now. What gpus do you guys use?

>>158087331
>a german spy
every single time

>>158087391
how shit the ds3 bksword textures are for a 2016 game

>>158087356
So its only pve shit?

>>158087391
The fact that BK weapons, among other things, look worse and worse as time goes on because instead of redoing the textures they literally port over the lower-rez texture from the previous game, upscale it and do some half-assed touchups.

They didn't nerf Drang Twinspear L1 roll attack.

>>158087331
Whos the fattie?

>>158087415
Now post close ups of BB armor and DS1. OH wait
>never ever
Feel free too post DS3 vs DS1

>>158087471
pretty much
just offhand it to get a few more estus while exploring in pve

>>158087419
>What gpus do you guys use?
980

>>158087521
That's fine, it's still a shit weapon.

>>158087331
I don't know who any of those people are. I remember DSP being shit at DS2 intentionally which was kind of amusing in short bursts and theres Oroboro who PvPs a lot.

So if those 2 are pillars then my opinion is one of them is amusing in short bursts and the other is kinda whiney if he doesn't get the invasion he wants.

>>158087419

You can try changing the resolution with this:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=663922936

I'm using a R9 380.

>>158087471
>>158087356
Sounds useful for invading in seeded worlds. Can you kill anything for estus charges? Because I imagine it'd be easy to farm crabs or those poison bugs in the forest.

>>158087521
It didn't need a nerf, it was already mediocre.

>>158087571
Thanks. I'll try this if updating my nvidia drivers doesn't work.

>>158087331
>oroboro is a skinny little twink

not even surprised

Can you no longer get early DLC? Friend of mine can't access

>>158087529
He's JerpGames

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>DaS1 Knight armor looks like metal
>DaS2 Knight armor looks like plastic
>DaS3 Knight armor looks like spraypainted hard foam

>>158087620
Are you gay?

>>158087529
jerpdoesgames, I think

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So i tried most of the new weapons in PVP


>Quills

kinda good. it's a rapier with R1 L1 combo. WA is cool but most of the time it's useless. maybe it's combo into something and i don't know, but it's just feel very shitty beside it being cool looking as fuck

first L1 is cool but can't hit shit and not being able to combo into anything
R1-L1 is doing good damage
>Valorheart
Honestly? it's ok. you probably going to get guard-breaked a lot, but the moveset is ok and allow you to counter some shit with the block on the R1. also, the jumping attack is amazing. the stance is quite good too.
shame about the rolling attacks and how shitty all the other attacks after the first paired R1

>onyx greatsword

the best weapon of the DLC. Sadly, beside the WA, it's pretty much generic greatsword.
at least it looks cool.

Pyro/Dark build only, sadly.

>2scythes
Ahh.. the 2handed non 2scythes is kinda awkward. can't catch shit. if it was only this, i would call it meh and that's it.

the dual stance is honestly very good if you use it the same as the 2kats. it's got a nice HA and it's actually able to catch rolls if the person isn't mashing his roll button. also look sick as fuck.
tried it as qualityfag, probably far more stronger as dex/int

>follower sabre
CCS with another WA. cancer

>javelin
Good luck hitting someone with the throw. it's cool but meh

the big weapons would have been better if ultra weren't so shit against shitters with CCS. beside the WA, they generic as fuck and it's annoy me.


overall kinda dissapointed. thought quills/2scythes and valorheart will be far more better.

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>>158087667
>soundfiles reused since Des
>textures reused since ds1
>1 hour of VA recorded dialogue tops
>zero story presentation, just info dumps via item descriptions

these games must cost pennies to make

>>158087763
How are you guys getting the DLC weapons? CE?

>>158087763
>CCS with another WA
and it actually has shorter reach

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>how do you want your game balance senpai?
>just make one weapon better than all the others in every way
>say no more

Which game do you think is more difficult, this or Bloodborne?

I just invaded a seeded world. Was there for about 20 minutes in a safe spot, waiting to ambush the impatient host. At points, it seemed like enemies stopped reacting to me. There was a thrall who dropped down right next to me, but didn't start attacking. What's up with that?

>>158087851
Bloodborne, DS3 is only ever slightly challenging if you have terrible dps

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>tfw regular boring scythes are 3x as effective

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poise

>>158087851
DS3 if you don't count DLC bosses and CD

>>158087894
>haven't seen a single hollow corvarian scythe build with bleed resin since the patch

>>158087820
this is nothing new

see: CB in DaS1, estoc/ice rapier in DaS2

Reminder: >>158072671
>hyper armor weapons now need poise to trade
>fast weapons are gonna cuck everything even harder since they don't have to spend a single point in VIT
>carthus' 2handed 490AR untouched
C team does it again

>>158087908
I messed around with that myself and only got it to happen when he did the 2HR2/WA's. I had 20-something poise if that's relevant.

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What happened?

>>158087989
Read first shitpost
>>158087116

>>158087989
So, what poise should people shoot for?

is 2 kats still considered good? didn't play since july

pls don't tell me it's WA is shit again

>>158087851
Bloodborne without a doubt
Bloodborne's dodges are vulnerable and liable to oneshot you with ridiculous instability modifier
Naturally, every boss and enemy is designed to rollcatch you to exploit this

Dark Souls 3 doesn't have instability modifier outside of quickstep and the i-frames recovery is better

>>158087989
at least ultras CAN trade now

before you would get stunned out of a 50% complete animation using ultras

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Pictured: Havel's Set in 3, 1, and 2 respectively

1: Genuine artstyle with a believable world, a world that is both optimistic and nihilistic, painted by the characters and the ramifications behind the various locations.

2: A shitty, lifeless remake. The effort put in is not justified for what came out, even if there was a terrible development cycle before its release. Tries to replicate what once was while being unique but ends up fucking both things at once.

3: Another lifeless game, but with an attempt to repair the damage done, trying to capitalize with what really defined the series. Going in a direction to build up a climax by making the world actually dying and the goal focused, but still failing to realize what made the first great and the second above garbage tier game making. Good, but out of touch.

>>158088080
b-but Friede's the hardest boss in the series!

>>158087851
i'd say this

beat ludwig first try and orphan in 5 tries using only pve gems

>>158088092
?

>>158087908

This used to trade just fine. Now it doesn't. I have to put on full havels for it to work now.

Hyper armour now a shit.

>>158088093
>using a Very Slim female to showcase havel's

>>158088080
>Naturally, every boss and enemy is designed to rollcatch you to exploit this
Are you sure? Because you can evade all hits in BB and mobs NEVER catch you.

>>158088093
I feel like I'd enjoy DS2's design more if I didn't associate it so much with metashittery

>>158088093
>those shoulders on 2
Can Havel come be my dungeon's tank, I'm going to try to get some rare BoA gear with a few friends in the new Legion expansion.

>>158086516
? Its easier to mash now. Ultra users need to spend more points in Vit to get pre-patch levels of HA

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>>158088093

That's just depressing.

>>158088158
how many bosses in dark souls 3 took you 5 tries or more?

>>158088207
with perfect timing
every boss and enemy intentionally delays and mixes up attacks even within combos to destroy you if you don't dodge at the absolute correct time

>>158087908
>How to beat hyper armour

>just mash r2 instead of r1, your move will still be faster than the ultra r1

thanks miyazaki

>>158088059
The armor was fresh and new in 1, old and rusty in 2, and in 3 somebody bought a taiwanese knockoff of the original

>>158088093
>high saturation = artstyle
You trying to hard. Is this /v/ pasta?

>>158088319
>miyazaki
you even replied to someone that put the blame in the right place
unless we're now blaming miyazaki for bringing tanimura back which works

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>>158088313
sages and wolnir

but not-lloyd looks pretty rough

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Well, I'm out for the night. Fun FC's, lots of old faces. Man, I really hope they go back and buff whips. Like, the biggest problem isn't even the speed or range, though those are bad, but the fact that they deal like 0 poise damage. In DS2 my whole build revolved around stunning them with the whip right before their animatiion went off, essentially forcing a positive trade. But in DS3 that's impossible cause every weapon has hyper armor now. For such a low damage, slow, and inaccurate weapon, you'd think there would be some saving grace. Aside from rollcatching with the WA, not much to whips in ds3.

Who's hyped to play Dark Souls on the shitter with the Switch?

Anyone have a webm of the Valorheart moveset?

>>158088421
miyazaki had every chance to smack tanimura for bringing over shit like giant seeds, hyper-poise, and gilligan

it's all memezaki's fault

>>158088175

Hyper armour is really weird now. I was playing zero/low poise at the FCs today and I could still use my HA, can't really say if it's less reliable now. Do UGS, GH and GA just have better HA than the rest? That's what I was using.

>>158088524
Yes, im sure i would enjoy 720p 10 fps again.

remember: everything bad in the dark souls series is tanimura's fault

miyazaki isn't responsible for a single design decision as the lead developer and president of from software

>>158087331
Prospered from opportunity which is a merit but absolutely pretentious about their "status."

>>158088421
Miyazaki is the game director, decisions should be going through him and he has the power to veto anything he doesn't like.
Just because he passed off all the jobs he doesn't want to do to someone else doesn't make him innocent.

>>158087985
CB was clearly better in DaS2 along with the others you mentioned. And they just kept buffing the fucking thing.

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>>158088093
Hue hue autist.
Buy proper monitor and adjust colors

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>>158088462
I feel like after sitting through that I won't be up to it when I reach the actual boss.

Not that I dislike it, I just, I don't know.

>>158088462
>they gave us the least fashionable Londor sister and a harmless bumbling crow guy who doesn't even give us his big bowl weapon
how do I get to the timeline where this DLC was good

>>158088313
>every boss and enemy intentionally delays and mixes up attacks
Emmm
No?
It's only thing in DS3

level 37 +5 invades where?

>>158088778

Catacombs and onwards.

>>158088645
DaS2 CB wasn't Carthus tier, it was just really good.

So apparently Elfriede was also an unkindled like the player, but while you harbour flame she harbours black flame.

Is this implying that the dark is going through a similar process of cycles mirroring the flame?

>>158088645
*nerfing
>20 to 30 to 50 self damage
just roll through it and laugh

>>158088645
In DaS2, the chaos blade had 50 self damage. You could destroy the thing just by carrying a defender's shield.

>>158088918
It implies they made something they thought was cool and thought people would fill in the blanks with lore

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Guys, will I be able to run Das3 with this GPU?

>>158088645
It did have 50 self damage per hit in a game with less access to regen.
You could make them kill themselves

>>158089069
No. Well yes but at very low frame rate.

>>158088908
105AGL backstepping dark weapon uchis were worse. As we're the warped Sword users and ice rapier/bestoc users. DaS2 had more or less the same balance disparity.

CHAOS OR UPGRADE MY FIRE TO +6?

>>158088531
anyone?

Tfw Friede's final phase AoE 1 shots my 28 vig sl 80.

Jesus christ that batch can dish out the damage

>>158089097
>hovering Michal Jacksons
MY EYES

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>DaS3 DLC add's a broken sabre

>BB DLC added a broken sabre

It only fits

>>158089113
Oh well. Thanks.

>>158089097
remember when you could do damage in souls games

>>158089241
>28 vig
you deserve it
Also what NG are you on?

>>158089256
Oh god, I never noticed that they literally aped that charged R2 animation for the shieldsplitter WA.
Goddamn.

>>158089168
Chaos scales with Humanity and caps at 10, so if you're good enough to not die often and keep your Humanity, go with Chaos.

>>158089097
Boy that 50 self damage sure was an impediment to that guy.

>>158089109
>>158088934

>>158089295

Regular NG. I've beaten her now, more through luck than skill, but I was not expecting the aggression levels and it caught me off guard big time. Can't wait to do it on my ng+2 / 3 builds

>>158089373
that is quite obviously not 100 self-damage per L1, so that was before the nerfs

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVrsNaSZgYo
Actually it doesn't looks "fun" at all from invader standpoint

I've been testing out poise with a Lothric Knight GS at the Drakeblood Knight.

20 poise does nothing. 40 poise has a noticeable difference. Does anyone know what the best poise to shoot for is?

Wow, so my greataxe left handed hyper armour gets super broken by 1 handed greatsword mashing

seems to still tank straight swords I THINK, but holy shit, greatswords are OP now

>blessed weapon is the pretty non-blue version again
I AM A PALADIN

>>158089487
>cestus durability continues to drain even though the sword isn't losing any
To be honest, it wouldn't be so bad if from could into coding.

>>158089256
Not even close. Rakuyo exists in a game where all the weapons are similarly fast, with each having their unique abilities (1HKO frenzy, wheeldash, reiterturtle). DS3's sabre is similar to an already broken sabre but has a better weapon art. It exists in a game where the disparity between the fast and the slow is staggering.

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>>158089490
This is with ~40.8 poise.

>>158089487

Finally, those pesky invaders will feel all the pain and suffering they've caused.

Am i dumb? where do i go after Gravetender?

>>158089097
The problem is that people were so buttblasted about katanas in DaS2 that they carried that grudge over to DaS3.

Katanas are mediocre in this game and you gotta respect anyone that does well with them.

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Okay I have to ask with the Switch announced and all that, would you be hyped for a FROM-Nintendo colaboration with any of the following IP's?
>Metroid
>Zelda
>Fire Emblem
>Kid Icarus
Feel free to ignore the previous question and answer the next if this is just too offtopic
Just wondering

Also any new good looking armor in the DLC?
Kinda tired of Fire Witch/Sunless stuff

Also why are those crow enemies so bullshit?

>>158089529
Oh really? Fucking nice

Have they removed the lmaobluepopsicle from the crystal buff yet?

Dark Souls 2 was shit

>>158089490
>Does anyone know what the best poise to shoot for is?

This might be helpful:
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/58ppik/hard_data_about_poise/

>>158089716
/v/ is not here

>>158089747
I don't know for that one, but if it's appeance was based off the same blue shit as Blessed Weapon had, then had removed, then had again, and now removed again.. hopefully. It looks so much nicer without it.

>>158089716
Man I'd be hype for a fromsoft mash of Fire Emblem or Icarus real talk

>>158089716
I feel like Nintendo would want Fromsoft to work on something with more western appeal, like Metroid. Not that Fromsoft doesn't do weebshit, but Nintendo has no problem doing that themselves.

>>158089778
>Glaives
>10
GLAIVES SHITTERS BTFO

So DLC isn't available until next week with PC, right?

And you have to go to the Blessed Chapel to access it?

What's the best spear/pike for PvP on a quality build?

>>158089521
Basically now there's a cutoff between azes and maces
Everything axe or smaller has negligible poisedamage and struggles to ever poisebreak anything
Everything mace or larger will consistently break anything's poise in 1 hit. It takes about 40 poise to resist a single hit from a mace with a UGS or otherwise.

There are some things that complicate this but that;s the general paradigm.

>>158089778
>1h GS does 27 poise damage, 2h does 35

Wow, so there you have it. Greatswords just fucking ruin other weapons hyper armour. You need 50+ poise to tank a greatsword in hyper armour frames with anything else.

>>158089991
gargoyle flame spear, it actually scales better with quality despite looking like a pyro weapon

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Any idea the recommended level for the DLC? I don't want to be OP but I don't wanna be doing bitch damage either.

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>>158089909
>A Fromsoft Metroid game

>>158090049
60-80

>>158090049
SL80 is the Miyazaki-approved level for NG

Can miracles be dropped and picked up?

>>158090059
i want it

>>158090049

I went in at 82 and it gave me a bit of a challenge. The boss I fought so far was tough as nails

>>158090045
What's so good about it? The damage?

It looks like the Lothric Knight Longspear outranges it quite a bit...

>getting random freezes after patch
please not this again

>>158090009
>You need 50+ poise to tank a greatsword
???
>UGS 24
>Gr. Hammer 27
Just wear some armor and you will have 40+ poise

So the summon on the final boss says he is supposed to show up later. I haven't had him spawn one time in the 5 times ive been at blackflame freide. Dont tell me there is a 4th phase.

>>158090153
swag. Try the WA

>>158090153

The range and speed, the Long Spear is decently slower then the Flame Spear for not that much more range.

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>gank squads now have at least 1 acid surge donkey

This is fun*

What's good armor for a nomadic character in 3?Someone who travels a lot.

>>158090049
I'm 88 and I'm pretty OP for the first part, that you can still die if you go and try to dash

Then you get to some part with Ninja Crows and it's making me rage quite a bit

>>158090153
Lothric Knight Long Spear has a mixed moveset, which means you lose the godly spear running attack for the shitty pike charge.

>>158090195

He comes in at phase 2. Have you been confirming his summon?

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>>158089651
And this is with 20.8 poise.

He hits me at almost the exact same time.

>>158090223
Don't worry. The Bloodshades will save us from gank squads.

>>158087908
You're not even wearing armor and not using an ultra greatsword

You're basically wearing lingerie and complaining you don't have the benefits of Havels

>>158090278
90% positive let me try it again.

>>158089778
>WAs with hyperarmor force a reset on use
That's super big, by the way. It means HA weapons with perseverance, warcry and stomp can maintain full poise effectiveness so long as they have space to use their WA between trades.

Also according to the formula here, a greathammer needs 23 poise to resists a 2H greatsword R1.

>>158090410
Not when their bleeding weapons break

>>158090194
>some armour

You literally have to wear the havels/smough torso piece

There is no way to get 40+ poise without it unless you're using yhorm's shield + ring +

>>158090223
>not using gundyr's unbreakable halberd against acidkids

>>158087908

>Faraam and Alva's
>not armor

It's no Havel's but it's on the upper end of medium armor sets in terms of weight and poise.

>>158090569
>warcry
wut

>>158090508
Is this a joke or are you retarded?
UGS have less HA than GHs
That outfit he is wearing has 29.54 poise

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>>158089778
>Galvanize has as much poise as an UGS Stomp

>>158090710
Warcry has poiseframes.

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I am beautiful, no matter what they say. Greatswords can't bring me down

>>158090508
You're an idiot.

He's using a greathammer, the weapon with the largest current poise health pool, and he's wearing a piece of havels + faram and alva

If all that can't take 1 fucking greatsword hit, despite attacking at the same time, it's shit

>>158090009
The problem I've found tonight (as an UGS user... kek) is that the smaller, faster weapons like SS can chew straight through whatever weapon poise HP you may have. If I'm going to swing on someone using a SS, they are sometimes able to come right in and start their faggy R1 spam and completely negate both poise and HA (which doesn't seem to be working as it was before). I'm going to have to give it more time before I come to a conclusion, but right now it doesn't look any better for me.

>>158089716
I want to see a dark souls like monster hunter game.

Or an armored core like monster hunter

>>158090727
It's also much faster

Now galvanize is basically perseverance without the defense boost.

>>158090641
acidshades when

>>158090827
If you can't break their spirit, break their weapons.

I like it.

Is there really only 2 bosses in the dlc?

>>158090857
Yes.
One of the bosses is also blue smelter-tier.

>>158090278
Figured it out it was because I was resting at the bonfire to get my fp back and it un summons him.

>>158090857
no
myazaki lied in the interview he gave

>people actually thought this

>>158090890
Nigga, people have beaten the DLC

>>158090887

Glad you figured it put anon.

You big ninny

>>158090827
>>158090856
We need a pyromancy themed covenant: Witch's Daughters.

All qt3.14 witches who throw vestiges and spew acid on their enemies.

>>158090672
Your weapon has poise

Just summon each others and test poise, autists.
Remember clutch rings?

>>158090719
>>158090762
If you want to be able to abuse the noobest and easiest dark souls mechanic then you SHOULD have to to commit guy to it.

Not just throw on a loincloth and havels gauntlets to mash R1 to victory.

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Why isn't there a drakeblood covenant?

So, are greatswords the new cancer? Am I going to be called out for using the WKGS now?

What the fuck, From. I was having fun with this weapon.

>>158091259
weren't greatswords always cancer

I know my bigdad sword has never been liked, especially by parry fags.

Wait, I can't actually beat the DLC if I'm going for the Hollow ending? got to the chapel and they tell me to go back to Lady Yuria

What's the 61 poise of DaS3 now?

>>158091032
Holy fucking shit. Stop.

The poise values on armors and weapons are different things. The stat shown on the stat screen is %reduction of poise damage. The hidden poise values of weapons is "HP" of poise. Once that hits zero, you are staggered. Right now a GS does 35 poise damage per swing in 2H. This means you need a minimum of 32 poise just to tank ONE hit from a GS. The poise "HP" goes down regardless of whether you are in HA or not, meaning some longsword user hits you twice while not in HA, and then the break your HA when actually attempt an attack.

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>>158091259
>WAAAAH OTHER PEOPLE USE THE WEAPON I USE

If Souls games punished healing with visceral hits like in bloodborne, the combat would be much, much better

>>158091214
>If you want to be able to abuse the noobest and easiest dark souls mechanic then you SHOULD have to to commit guy to it

But I only need carthus curved sword, carthus rouge, and <70% weight for that

>>158091259
Meh, they're no worse than other shit that gets used. Really, things break down into cancer and useless garbage tiers. If it can be used, it tends to be able to be used to deadly effect.

>>158090754

LONDON
O
N
D
O
N

>>158091348

Just have chugging estus put you in a counter state where you take increased damage like in some other actions such as jump attacks, that would help PvE and PvP so much.

>>158091340
Where all test agaist players? With videos

>>158091325

You fucking dummy. Keep exploring you missed a ladder

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so what's been going on with the game

last time I played, arabic skeleton sword was top tier, BK glaive was popular alongside astora GS, twin rolling L1's and yhorms

What's a good weapon to use a Crystal gem on? Lothric Knight Sword? Dark Sword? Fists?

>>158091468
>Where all test agaist players? With videos

LOL. We moved beyond guessing shit, its directly from CE tables.

>>158091493
Ccd nerfed
glaive still glaive
twin rolling nerfed
yhorms is still good
new dlc weapons pyros and greatswords are meta now because of poise

>>158091468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_07Q1g-sdJ0
This is how it used to work. The values all changed now, but the mechanics are all the same.

>>158091524

Use it on your anus and go refined 40/40 instead

>>158091565
I don't believe until video proofs.
>clutch rings/steel ring

So, do fist weapons have HA now with the patch? I was trying to make a punch tank before I realized how bad of an idea it was. If it wasn't for perseverance I wouldn't have gotten as far as I have. I'm not noticing any improvements either, despite the "Improved attack animations". Do I only have HA for gusts of light winds or something?

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So did they actually buff heavy weapons and armor or not ? I don't fucking understand
do heavy weapons have more HA or what

>tfw you die to quelaag's fucking aoe

man, fuck her fat spider ass covering her human part

>>158091493
>arabic skeleton sword was top tier,

Still is.

BK Glaive got nerfed, but is still very usable (albeit considered outclassed by Gundyr's spear). Poise may or may not do things now. A few of the new DLC items are strong. Cheese of the week is to use Acid Surge to destroy people's weapons, as the durability drain is fucking huge now.

>>158091676
>go refined 40/40
nigga end yourself

>>158091584

Glaives are not glaives anymore, the poise changes have rendered their HA trading ability useless unless they're in full Havel's since even a Carthus can trade and prevent them from comboing from a 2HR1 now at low poise.

>>158090304
Wait what ?
I thought they buffed poise and heavy weapons ?

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Just simmon and stream poise tests holy shit. It's so hard to do?

>>158091676
>being a quality fag

kys

also how do you guys even detect quality shitters

>>158091791
They "buffed" heavy armors by rendering anything with low poise utterly useless to use with heavy weapons. This of course doesn't affect any CCS or WP player.

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>>158091713
Hyper-armor (poise officially) was actually nerfed across all the boards but buffed accordingly when used with great weapons. So yes, hyper-armor is poise or at least the poise given by heavier armor is more effective for heavier weapons. That and lighter weapons no longer have poise.

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Wish me luck!

Profaned sword, or sword of judgement?

>>158091713
>>158091791

They 'buffed' heavy armor so that ultras require the heaviest armors to get enough poise to even tank a Greatsword R1 now, yet when they do have it 'apparently' this gives better HA frames now especially for Great Hammers by a marginal amount.

A big issue of course now is that medium-heavy armors like Faraam are still useless in regards to poise since only Smough's/Havel's etcetera gives enough poise now to enjoy these benefits, especially since the poise given from Wolf Ring/Yhorm's Shield/Long Spear have been nerfed to hell. Along with the fact that a majority of ultra weapons are quality weapons, so on a basic 120 build you won't be able to get near enough Vitality now for something like a Zweihander to stand up to pure STR ultras like Great Hammers while still having the weaknesses against faster weapons and such, and not even being able to win trades with a greatsword again.

>>158091337
If my math is correct then the amount of poise necessary to resist one R1 of a 2H greatsword

UGS: 32/38.4
Greathammer: 23/27.6

The first number is the approximate minimum amount of poise required to withstand the hit if you have full poise health (start of a fight or fresh reset). The second number is the amount of poise necessary to ALWAYS resist the hit, regardless of poise health. Bear in mind that with the first value, you can force a poise reset at will simply by using stomp or perseverance or warcry. With the second number, your poise effectively cannot be broken by a greatsword 2HR1 at all, regardless of your poise health thanks to this new system.

A quick note: Some special greatswords may deal more poise damage on their R1s (WKGS and BKS in particular), which would mean that a higher amount of poise would be necessary vs them. R2s also have higher (though unknown) poise damage, as do WA attacks. This data is only valid for the standard 2HR1 of generic greatswords

>>158091758
>>158091857

I don't play quality boys but he asked for effective

Here you go, new poise video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3g-TzEr0iM

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Who is the most tragic Lord of Cinder, and why is it Yhorm?

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How the fuck are people playing the DLC already? Is there a guide on how to play on PC?

>>158092032
Medium armor has always been good for absorption, so I think that's fine.

If anything, it's light armor that's shit now since it's easy to minmax a decent medium armor setup with base vit.

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so... with all these mists sprays and gasses I'm tempted to make a build around them... any idea how many different mist things you can have up at once?
theres:
poison mist
toxic mist
acid surge
snap freeze
pestilent mercury (buffed in patch)
storytellers staff WA.

can I feasibly have all of these up on the field at the same time?

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>>158092068
AGAINST
PLAYER

bloodborne is not a souls game

>wanted to change my character's name to reflect new build
>can't because the pointer is broken in the current table
updated table when

>>158092151

Absorption isn't really a question here though especially when it gives very diminishing returns past light armor in PvP, the point is if you want to use most ultras you're consigned to one of a few sets since the numbers for poise are still dumb in how they are set-up for both weapon poise damage and armor poise.

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>>158090885
Cool Ranch Smelter gives you a kick ass exploding lava sword AND a fashionable mask that gives your character a 300 boost to fire defense and -150 to lightning.

What does the champion+original character Yif give? A dinky little sword and board and the privilege to PVP in a DLC you spent 15 bucks on?

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>trying to beat two princes on NG+ at SL 65
i'm too casual for this shit

>>158092038
What about other weapons like greataxes?

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Now that ashes of ariandel has come out, do you think it's worth to get the old hunters or dark souls 3 dlc?

>>158089487
If you are invadin, you have to be keep up with the latest gank spank tech or you will be on the receiving one. That means either packing repair powders, repair magic or just magic build until people stop spamming it.

>>158092323
Blue smelter gives you a reskin of a weapon in the main game.

Sif and Yiff give you a unique weapon with a special 2H moveset unique entirely to itself, including a unique jumping attack and rolling attack on top of unique R1s

>>158092173
Then go fucking test it yourself

>>158092379
>ashes of ariandel has come out
It's not.

>>158086012
Top set of buffs looks the best.

Can someone check fashion for me?
Alva Helm
Lothric Knight Armor
Lothric Knight Gauntlets
Knight Leggings

buttsore level: 7

why does the chinamen make the foxcon swords so powerful cheesy online?

>>158092038

I have 38.77 poise and I'm still getting my HA broken by the Drakeblood knights. Do the have different poise damage than players then?

>>158092116
Yes
Step 1) Produce shitty Souls content
Step 2) Hope it appeals to the unpaid intern who who made the NA trailers and handles their facebook page
Step 3) obtain DLC early

>>158092379
The Old Hunters itself is better than the entirety of DS3

>>158092476
Bullshit. Only if you wank off to H.P Lovecraft and fish people.

>spend three and a half hours playing dlc
>cant find anything else to do
>look up guides and forum posts
>find out already 100% dlc
holy fuck what a dissapointment

Wait

does VIT now multiply your poise? I feel like I have more now than I did before patch on my VIT build

>>158092367
Apparently greataxes have the same poise health as UGS, so the numbers I listed there are good for GAxes as well. 32/38.4 for firsthit/allhit

I don't have the poise damage values for anything beyond greatsword 2HR1 but you can assume they're probably a bit higher.


>>158092467
You're using a UGS and 38.77 isn't enough?
Remember that number is only valid for the R1s. The R2s and WA will still likely interrupt you with that much poise.

poise was a mistake

>>158092396
haha yeah well blue is extra hotter than red even kids know that looks like I win bud

seriously though, is the gladius even good? I'm not hearing great things. Someone post a guy in the eastern fashion using it.

>>158092529
NEVER
EVER

WHY DOES MY GAME KEEP FREEZING

Okay I seriously need some help here with any suggestions. Game keeps freezing for 5-10 seconds every 10 minutes or so. I've done the following things to try to fix it
1. Set everything to Low
2. Turned Performance settings on for windows
3. Turned Performance settings on for Dark Souls 3 in NVidia control panel
4. Turned Virtual reality prerendered frames to "Use 3d Application settings"
5. Power management mode "Prefer maximum performance"
6. Maximum Pre-Rendered frames "Use the 3d aplication settings"
7. Texture Filtering - Quality "Performance"
8. Triple buffering "Off"
9. Rolling back to older driver including the oldest one for my card (368.39)
10. Updating drivers to newest driver after full video driver wipe
11. Changing slots for video card and RAM on motherboard
12. Changing the SATA port on my drives
13. Probably some other shit but that's all I can think of if it isn't here tell me

My specs:
Windows 10 Ultimate
MSI GTX 1070
Intel I7 4790k
16 GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengence RAM
MSI Gaming 5 motherboard
Game is installed on SSD

If you have any suggestions please for the love of god let me know.

>inb4 lol pcfags
It's literally only this game that does it.

>>158092556
Oh good, my set hits 35.35 so I can tank at least one hit

I am not disappointed by my choice to be a major fatty now, Ser Sigmund's coming out of retirement.

Going to do my first playthrough of ds3 tonight, what is a good build I should run?

>>158092613
Reinstall windows

>>158092613
just refund this shit game

>>158092651
Bad time to ask. There was a huge rebalancing patch.

>>158092573
I like this new system. actually.
The minmaxing will take a bit of time to adjust to, but the essential gist of it is that once you minmax around a particular poise breakpoint, your HA can't be interrupted. We just need to find those breakpoints.

What I like about this poise system is that ultra vs ultra fights are no longer HA dickwaving competitions. As long as we can find practical values for resisting shit like greatswords, glaives, spears and etc. this system should work well.

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Does anyone wanna help me move my wolf ring + 2 to another character? I'm doing some testing and there's no way I'm playing through to NG++ again on this character


Unless someone has a freebie they can just drop me? PC btw

>>158092675
I'm honestly tempted

>>158092687
consolefag detected

>>158092549
I don't believe VIT has anything to do with poise other than the fact that you can equip heavier armour.

What armour are you using?

>>158092651
The "uninstall and return to the store" build

>>158092706
The problem is the poise breakpoints are fucking huge

You have to have 30poise mandatory, it's retarded

20ish poise should be more than enough to poise things, 40 should be "I poise EVERYTHING" teir that makes it worthwhile.

Just destroying all hyper armour until you're basically just a havel is stupid. All that does is hurt STR weapons even more.

whats up with Artorias' sword swing online. things has a Time delayed hit box a mile long...

i see people swing, i roll. im clearly completely out of their range and I get hit. i time the next likely swing, i roll, and i get hit

someone teach me to be a cunt with bad internet. seriously we need Trump to build a wall around fuckers with bad internet.

Fiber master race.

>>158092613
Did you update your drivers?

What resolution are you playing the game in? What kind of monitor?

What is the freezing like; does the image on your screen freeze and the game continues in the background or does your entire computer freeze?

>>158092807
This is no different from DaS2. You needed an absurd amount of poise to tank greatswords in that game as well.

>>158092651
Quality with a fast weapon, cause as seen by this last patch it's the only thing they want everyone to use

>>158092850
Completely updated to newest drivers

1920x1080

Doing anything and suddenly everything in game stops. I can still alt tab away and do anything on my computer and it is just the game

Friede Scythe build should I just go 40 dex or dex/int

>>158092807
40 poise is a noticable difference, but you still get staggered from the smallest repetitive hits. More so than pre-patch, I've been testing it for awhile now.

43-45 poise makes a huge difference.

>>158087331
Who is who?

All I know is German Spy is the fedora wearing guy in the middle.

>>158092651
Warrior
40 VIG, 40 END, 40 DEX, 40 STR

You will have access to 95% of the weapons in the game, and you will do the most damage with 90% of them

>>158092807
Actually, 40 poise is effectively mandatory because you basically need that much to resist a 2H greatsword while using a UGS. Hope you enjoy only using 7 sets of armour

On the other side, greathammers only need about 28. GH are already the most sta-efficient ultras because they're the only pure str class, but now they're even more stat-efficient since they require the least poise

>>158092336
Try rouge and getting good, the dodges are easy

>>158087415
I play on both and you definitely are delusional and blinded by nostalgia like all Dark Souls 1 babbies

>>158092954
The magic damage and int scaling only applies to the stance.

So go pure dex if you're trying to save points, and hybrid if you're like Sl120 or something and have the points to spare.

>>158092556
>You're using a UGS and 38.77 isn't enough?

Yeah, once my poise health is 80 i can't tank their 2HR1 while swinging an ultra greatsword.

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>>158092529
As opposed to wanking to medieval fantasy?

>>158092476
>>158092407
>>158092529
I'm thinking I'll get more bang for my buck with AoA.

What's the point of playing a mage if weapons outdamage them and you literally get one shotted by enemies because you spend all your souls on leveling INT instead of other stats?

>>158092919
Well, it's not a display issue. Does doing any sort of action/entering any sort of environment in the game trigger the freeze, like an area with lots of particles? If you were to stand completely still, would it happen?

I'm thinking there might be an issue with loading assets as you move through the levels.

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Did the patch hit PS4 yet ?

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>>158092449
Shit is fashionable, muh nigga.

>Nerf hyper armour and make it more reliant on poise
>Fuckup the poise ranges so Havels set is absurdly more poise than everything else and pieces of it and the chestpiece is basically mandatory

>Don't buff havel's ring back to normal to now give better % returns now that you actually need heavier armour

Gay as fuck

>>158093089
is word """"""""""""fun""""""""" familiar to you ?

>>158093118
I just downloaded an update so I think so.

>>158093093
Doing action: No
Entering Environment: Not as far as I'm aware because it happens during invasions, during FC where we are always in the same area, but I sat in 1 spot with my camera spinning for half an hour and it didn't freeze.
Standing Still: Not sure. Only reference I have is from me spinning my camera so I don't think so

Someone post the webms of the new weapons movesets

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DLC LIVE ON STEAM RESTART YOUR GAME

>>158093051
You're right, I bungled my math a little bit.

I'm too tired to redo it tonight, but I'll run the algebra again tomorrow and get the numbers.

If you'd like to do it yourself, the minimum poise health of a UGS is 19.2, GS 2HR1 does 35 poise damage and the formula is PoiseHealth > WeaponPoiseDamage * (1-X/100)

Just solve for X to find the value of armour poise that will allow you to resist an attack.

>>158093189
It's not fun when magic is weak and only relevant in NG+ because you have to juggle estus + lack of health + stamina because you've been pumping all your stats into INT.

>>158093293
don't be mean

>A naked person using the onislayer weapon art needs TWO 2handed greatsword R1's to break them out of it

>UGS need 25+ poise to do this

TOP

KEK

Is boulder heave just fucking worthless, or what? I have another attunement slot left over after acid surge, what else would be good in random invasions?

>>158093293
rude

>>158093540
UGS actually need 45 minimum for that

>>158093540
Weapon Arts have a ton of poise health in general. The stomp of UGS have double the poise health of the onislayer WA.

>>158093540
Yeah but onislayer is a joke now.
Have you seen it in action? The knee stagger can't break HA anymore and it doesn't headshot without the knee stagger. I tanked through one earlier today with fucking warcry and punished him for it.

Where is all pvp webms of UGS vs GS poise?

>>158092720
what graphic mod you using? Looks sexy as hell.

>>158093643
> I tanked through one earlier today with fucking warcry and punished him for it
That's because war cry is actually broken right now it uses pre-patch poise values for a whooping 150

>invade as faithful
>parry the host
>start the reposte with my +10 Greatclub with hornet ring
>CONNECTION ERROR OCCURRED

more satisfying than the win desu

especially since he was like 50 feet from a bonfire, like for what purpose