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old >>158086012

>1.08 patch notes
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/241332569600668256

>Ashes of Ariandel DLC Stuff
http://pastebin.com/W1XH72P2

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Soulsborne community is rotten.
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>>158104704
We need a community dedicated to killing shitty community members.
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Dead game and general, dont know why you keep making new ones
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post yfw they added ANOTHER CCS
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>>158104665
>45
wew, then I would need a shitload more vit.

Even with Morne's? I have gone through dark sword r1 / Glaive r1 with the hammer at 15 poise.

I would still need a wolf ring if somebody is on PS4 tho. To test this out.
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>>158104592
HOW TO POISE IN THE NEW PATCH

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/58ru20/how_poise_works_in_108/

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/58ppik/hard_data_about_poise/

Summary: your poise meter is only long enough to tank 1-2 attacks now, but it resets to 80% of full every time you use a normal attack and 100% of full every time you use a weapon art.

After modifiers, normal attacks have 10-27 poise meter on average and weapon arts can have anywhere from 30-200 poise meter.

In other words, your poise breaks easier but it resets every time you attack. Hollowslayer is now an infinite poise blender.
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Arena should have been included in the patch
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Have you made your Havel build yet?
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>When your Runescape character invades you
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>>158104767
<image implying I'm ready to bait /dsg/>
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Is there a list of dlc weapons and their stats yet?

Also whats the recommended progression/ SL before tackling the dlc
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What are fun build/weapons to use now that the patch have drop?
I have a pyromancer, a strenght build using Gundyr and a character that was pure dex but is so overleveled that it doesnt even matter now

Are hammer and greathammer still shit?
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>>158104763
Is /bbg/ general dead or something?
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>>158104786
Basically, stop playing like passive fucks.
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>>158104409

I'm at the dragon slayer armor fog gate if anyone wants to join.
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>>158104841
sl80 +10 weapons
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>>158104847
carthus curved sword
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What maces are we supposed to use for pvp? I'm confused.
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Its amazing how peeve always manages to find the most boring and shit builds
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>>158104871
Im jk anon i love it here and havent played bb yet
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>>158104847
Hammers are the new meta. Follower's Torch will be the best weapon in the game once the DLC hits.
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post underrated weapons

>S Dex, only need 40 Dex to get solid damage
>flipslash instead of kick, which you can do out of a roll and then immediately change direction of to dead angle and get out
>easy to get 40dex/60int on sorc for solid as fuck damage
>light, so easy to get 30% fast rolls and the flipslash so you're nimble as fuck

It's the only balanced curved sword so I feel no guilt for using it
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>>158105021
why not

it's good
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>>158105031
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NEW THREAD WHEN?
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>>158105013
>Yukas builds
>Only katana builds
>"I am going to make a poison build today"
>Poison katana
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>>158105042
...does that spin attack have hyper armour?? You tanked that gotthards
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>>158104964
Already used it :,)
>>158105031
The follower torch and the onyx blade will probably of better use on my pyro, though, I have my eyes on Earth seeker, the great hammer and the javelin. Shame the great axe have a faith requierement
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>>158104871
old /bbg/ is dead. It's trashhole now. Pure pve aids
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>>158104881
>when the patch caters specifically to your playstyle
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>>158105124
>Pure pve

So, better than /dsg/?
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>>158105051
Dont have a ps4 and dont feel like borrowing a friends, plus i am too caught up in DaS3 right now and probably will be for awhile. I plan on playing it eventually, kind of hopeing it comes to PC by the time im ready
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>>158105013
It's amazing that he still doesn't know what rollcatches are.
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>>158104734
then why can I do it in 1 & 3 and work out fine but not in 2?
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>>158105154
Help me with Vordt. Can't beat him. And where to go next? How to use magic? Post build for pve
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>he plays deprived
>10 in EVERY STAT
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>>158105124
I think Moon Presence is Gehrman from future
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>>158105169
Look man, they weren't kidding with the whole "never ever" thing. Do you not understand first-party co-development/ publishing?
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>>158105169
It will never come to PC

You have a better chance of Nintendo announcing Mario 128 for PC tommorow
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>>158105107
You can't be staggered yes.
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>>158105169
>3 year old console exclusive will come to pc
umm no
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>>158105359
I understand that mere facts arent enough to falter my faith t b h lad
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>>158105340
It's actually fine for only one build

hollow quality pyro, pretty much a mundane bleed pyro build
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>>158105281
Fuck Carthus Curved Sword, literally unbeatable. Why are all invasions ganks? What's the meta?
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Did they buff frostbite in the latest patch?
I just got frost bitten by Vordt. That has never happened before, and I've taken multiple hits right to the face, this time it only took one.
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>>158105470
Vordt the boss, or the greathammer? The ham's frost damage was increased in the patch.
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>>158105470
it's still kinda weak by itself but it can be EASILY inflicted
snap freeze can frostbite enemies in less than a second in pve from what i've seen
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>>158105279
Hell if I know, maybe you need to acquire skill. Farm hollows in the tutorial area for exactly one level and you're fine, I don't get your problem. Alternatively, learn how to space and get used to rolls not being free with year-long iframe durations.
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Just defeated Abyss Watchers. How far am I into the game?
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>>158105281
Roll into his face on his swing, then stay with your head in his Boreal Valley for the rest of the fight.
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>>158104903

Where are you now, Anon? Let's co-op.
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>>158104881
And calculate shit instead of having 100 poise health that mysteriously breaks some time mid fight when you can't predict.
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>>158105605
~1/4
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>>158105452
Not the same thing.
What is PVE in DS games? You beat it once and that's all. Nothing new. It's not MMO. What do you want to discuss about PVE? NG+2 is not different from NG+99.
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>>158105710
Noice.
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>>158105792
>Pvp fags
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>>158105340
but it has soul level 1. how can i be true ds master if not doing sl 1 runs?
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Are maces the new meta? Shall i bring out my cleric tank build?
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>>158105661

I'm at grand archives first bf.

pass dsg
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how is that shit for elemental infusions?
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Are there any ways to cheese Sister Friede? Going through 3 phases is boring and stupid as fuck and I want this dumb bitch to stay dead.
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>>158105792
Souls games have the most complex stories in all of video gaming, that can take years of research to ever truly understand.
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>>158105856

Sign down.
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>>158105915
Oh christ, is it King of The Storm all over again?
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>>158105943
Lmao you'll get some replies to this
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>>158105915
I don't even know how to feel about this post.
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>>158105842
Again. What do you want to discuss about PVE right now? You can't beat final boss for...hmmm...six months? Last thread has 792 posts and roughly only ~30-50 about PVE
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>that follower saber WA damage
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what are the stats for the new sabre

please don't be quality
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>>158105991

I'd say it's just as tedious

>Fight her alone, she sometimes turns invisible
>Then fight her and her dad at once
>Then fight her alone again only this time she does dark damage

It's just too time-consuming to be enjoyable.
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>>158106014
we could post waifus
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>>158105845
>can use longsword
>in straight swords 3
>ds master
with all the bullshit ring you're no ds master in 3 unless you do sl1+starting equipment
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>>158105943
Vaati is legend and saviour of Dark Souls PVE
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>>158106096
>vaati is the only lorefag
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>>158106065
Fantastic. That shit completely breaks the flow of a boss for me.
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>>158106074
Waifus are not PVE.
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Imagine a spell that removes your iframes for 30 seconds.
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>>158106148
the hell they aren't
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>>158106052
Quality you stupid fuck.
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>>158106136

Agreed.

The dumbest thing is that during cutscenes between phases, your character just stands and watches the boss gain super powers instead of trying to lop their head off or something.
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>>158106052
>>158105875
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>>158106206
That was pre-patch TWoP

I want it back
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>>158106206
>implying it wouldn't be a miracle with a gorillion year cast time and ridiculous FP cost
>also only 15 seconds tops
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>someone tries to chug against Friede's scythe
>just combo him into oblivion with L2R1
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>>158106213
Because you can post waufus and dicuss PVP.
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So Velka is most likely the mother of sisters of londor, right?
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>>158106424
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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So this poise nerf is good because we have to minmax for poise if we want to poise through greatsword tier up attacks and we can't poise through every type of attack. I like it.
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>>158106523
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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>>158106531
i think the more important change is that before your posie bar was essentially impossible to predict mid-fight, now it resets to 80 or 100 whenever you attack
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>>158105524
The boss.
>>158105525
Thanks
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BB > DaS3 > DaS1 > DeS = DaS2
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>>158106573
>>158106523
<><><><><><><><><><>
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>>158105384
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>>158106531
it makes poise an actual mechanic you need to take into consideration but it's not a straight nerf because of how poise health is handled now
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I need your help /dsg/. This started happening a week ago.
I lose connection to the DkS3 game server at regular intervals. I've made no changes to my network configuration. I've even got open ports/nat upnp whatever.
What could be wrong? Why did it start to happen all of a sudden?
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Have people figured out yet how the Arena matchmaking works in terms of matchmaking?
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>>158106230
>The dumbest thing is that during cutscenes between phases, your character just stands and watches the boss gain super powers instead of trying to lop their head off or something.

False.
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>>158106641
DaS3 < BB < DaS1 > DeS > Das2
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>>158106715
SL120 max. Level any higher and you get softbanned for being too dishonorable.
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>No new katana
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>>158106719

What's false about it?
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>>158106715
No
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>>158106581
>>158106683
yes!
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>>158106781
>axe/ greataxe and greathammer all have generic movesets except WAs

at least dex gets quills
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>>158106781
A saber is basically a katana when you think about it
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>>158106904
How many million times is a saber folded?

Yeah, didn't think so, bitch.
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>>158106853
Technically, quills still has the normal rapier moveset. It just has a second, kind of useless moveset alongside that.
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>>158106715

*in terms of Soul Level I meant

>>158106835
>>158106778

Ok.
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>>158107001
>quill daggers do damage just a shit as normal daggers
J U S T
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>>158106950
>katanas are the only weapons folded
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>>158107046
Dishonorable gaijin pig-dog weapons folded once, twice at MOST
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>>158106531
Yeah this new poise is good because my meta level 40/60 quality, 490AR Carthus build is untouched while HA fags now have to spend 30+ levels into VIT just to trade with eachother lmao
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Honestly the only thing i would do to balance current poise system is giving equip load some sort of STR scaling so STR fags would be able to afford even more armor.
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>>158107046
>Believing a sword that boasts and much spiritual prowess and a taditionally made Katana exists

There's a reason Kats run the the sword game bro. It takes tremendous focus and patience to forge at the level katanas are made
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>>158107141
carthus curved sword has low poise damage
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>>158107141
cocky CCS shitters are so cute when i reaction trade them with maces to death
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>instead of the Sable sisters working together and shit they've split up doing their own thing
>thought we might get unique variants of yuria's armor like with a ponytail or something
scas art has spoilt me
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>>158107184
>It takes tremendous focus and patience
because the iron has no carbon and keeps breaking, lmoa
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>>158107143
I've been saying since DaS1 that equip load needs to be split into weapon equip load and armor equip load. Strength gives weapon equip load, Endurance (Vitality now) gives armor equip load.

This made more sense in DaS1 because weapon weight was related to their Strength requirements.
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>>158107143
This, why isn't this a fucking thing

Better yet, just make equip load scale entirely with Str and ditch Vit altogether, it's redundant. Or make it solely a defense stat (boosts resists and absorption, maybe poise rating)
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What is the Astora's Straight Sword of Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 2/3, Bloodbourne?
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>>158107184
You okay dude?
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ds2 dlc was manus fragments (female)

ds3 dlcs will both be about yuria's sisters
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>>158107275
>Better yet, just make equip load scale entirely with Str and ditch Vit altogether
Yes, this would be awesome.
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>>158107184
agreed
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>>158107262
>blame the materials for my lack of skill and honor

Let me guess, CCS user?
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Is there anything useful to have in my offhand if I'm 2h mace all the time?
Other than dude weed shield lmao
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Why are nips so fucking cancerous?
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>>158107407
longspear for poise, weed shield, blessed anything for regen
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>>158107432
you're playing at their hour, which is about now
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>>158107276

Crescent Falchion +1 in Demon's Souls, Saw Cleaver in Bloodborne.
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speaking of sword folding, didn't the vikings fold swords? Can a /his/ anon confirm this?
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>>158107407
Crossbow for cheesy finishing attack? Lightning bolts are nice for invasions in water areas.
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>>158107345
oh man oh these bamboo reaves are so hard to cut through, onry the dignified katana â„¢ eastern curved cword can cut through
>>158107432
mostly persisting radiation
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>tfw spontaneous co-op team

>>158107496
anyone with shit metal folded their swords
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>>158107496
Some master viking smiths forged swords that were thought to be indestructible (both flexible and hard), at the time. They were folded, but folding isn't the only factor that goes in to that. Katanas, in contrast, are absolutely not flexible.
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>>158107496
The Celts were folding swords roughly 1,800 years ago.
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>>158107686
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>>158105965

Want to do fake seath and THE CHAMP next?
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>play pic related for the first time
>play quite a bit
>get invaded
>I have sword+board, he has dual swords/daggers/whatever
>he winds up a stab attack
>I hold my shield up and start walking back
>tip of his weapon stops like 2 meters away from me
>I still get hit AND damaged

Yeah, no. I wanted to try PvP since I didn't do it at all in DS1 and people claimed that DS2 was superior in this aspect. But holy shit, how can you enjoy pvp in a game with so fucked up hitboxes. I noticed the same behavior with other wepaons as well.
Next time I get invaded I will just stand and do nothing so I can get over it faster.
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What is this Dude Up status icon with Wolf Knight GS?
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>>158107719

Yeah let's do this, sorry for dying. I need to take a small break in 20 minutes so let's see how that goes.
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>>158107803
Status resistance
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>>158107764
That's phantom range. All the games have that.
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>>158107803
resistance. it's the shield
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>>158107686
wrong
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>>158107827
What? And people eat this up and think it's okay?
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Anyone know if there are any more slabs in the DLC?
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>>158107916
Yes.
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What's the int requirement on snap freeze? Also does it scale with int or does it do equal damage at base int and 60 int?
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I'm just starting DS2 now, what are some good weapons/builds?

In DS1 I rolled with babby mode str+dex claymore/shield, heavy armour and pyro but I never really got gud with rolling, I just spent the whole time blocking and managing stamina.

Should I give fth or int a go? Or does dex weapons? I don't just want to be a tank again if there's some good shit I could be doing as an alternative, the claymore was great but I didn't like how much stamina each swing would take up in boss fights.
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>>158104704
>Soulsborne community is rotten
>borne

what a surprise
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>>158107939
18
no idea

>>158107923
at least 1
i've heard 3
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What is this saber people are going on about?
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>>158107941
go pure dex rob/ flynn
or hex
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Does the HA buff for maces apply if I'm 1 handing it?
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>>158107812
>>158107719

Sign down at the start of the area, before the first cathedral knight.
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>>158107923
I only got 3.
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Someone help me make the ideal SL 99 scythe build please, I'm too shit for it.
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>>158107936
Please tell me it is fixed in DS3 or I will lose the last tiny bit of respect I had towards pvp in this series.
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>>158107989
No
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>>158107941
Try powerstanced thrusting swords in PvE, pretty broken with no tanking involved whatsoever.
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>>158107989
No.
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>>158107827
>>158107916
>>158107764
It's not just phantom range, it's lag too.
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>>158107957
YOU PLAGUE RIDDEN GENERAL
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what is the meaning of the face in a square, on the top left?
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>>158107941
go mage, use all the spells and an elemental longsword or what have you when needed
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>>158108172
Voice chat
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>>158108028
It's not fixed, no. You realize it's literally impossible to fix without it making you miss tons of clean hits on your screen, right?
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>>158108028
of course not

how do you expect them to handle hit detection? this isn't a purely competitive game that could use rollback or input lag.
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>>158107941
Or go dex weapons*
fugg I'm tired

>>158107987
Sorry senpai, I've literally only just loaded up the game, Flynn is a ring but what is rob or hex?

>>158108062
Thrusting swords as in rapiers, or are they different? I've seen you can get a Sun Sword that has thrust. Also what is powerstance? 2h?

>>158108194
Is mage really fun? I usually love playing them in games but boss fights would put me off and I'd hate not being able to defend myself against meme attacks.
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So exactly what triggers the invalid data message?
How do I go arouind getting more slabs without getting marked?
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>>158108221
>>158108274
Oh well, thanks for the heads up.
It just seemed to me that the later installments put a greater emphasis on the pvp aspect rather than the pve.
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>>158107941
25 adr, 30 end and the rest str, keep rerolling teh shiny pebble untill you get Demons Great Hammer.

Pancake the entire game and have fun
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Just about to finish my first Dark Souls playthrough, I can't remember the last game that managed to hold my attention like this, really loving it, so much so that I reckon I'll play through again right after.

Is it worth doing New Game Plus? Because I think I'd probably get more out of a second playthrough if I just started from scratch and did a completely different build.
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Xfriends, tell me, does the DLC answer literally fucking anything about Ariamis or who makes these painted worlds or why or what they're even for? Or is it just using the painted world name as a throwback?
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Are maces meta now? If so, great hammers or normal?
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>>158108403
I just like playing mages really. DS2 has great variety in spells, and you can usually magic missile bosses to death, or stab them with a weapon buff.
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>>158108489
Start over then do NG+ afterwards
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>>158108489
NG+ doesn't scale very well, you'll definitely get more out of a completely new playthrough unless you want to just wreck everything.
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>>158108489
New playthrough using the knowledge gained to make a better build. Have fun.
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>>158107990

At graves bf. Going to get a drink first.
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>>158108461
Not at all it's just the community who takes the PvP in this game far more seriously than they should and being obsessed about the "meta game"
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>>158108489
>want to go through Tomb of Giants again
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>>158108528
it does
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>>158108489

It's probably better to start a new build. NG+ unlocks the gravelord feature but that's quite rare.
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>>158108489
>upside
more souls to level up more easily if you want to eventually reach pvp meta levels
you might get gravelorded, which can make the area quite a bit harder and challenging i got gravelorded in oolacile once, it added like 3 BP chained prisoners, i was scared shitless
kinda harder after anor londo, but not in a meaningful way. you die in less hits, they die in more
>downside
no real changed besides the GL possibility
can't respec so you're stack with your build

you most likely want to just make a new run
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>>158108528
The entirety of DaS3 is HEY GUYS REMEMBER [X]?
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>>158108628

Give me five minutes.
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>>158108734
mostly in a good way though
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>gf starts playing DaS3 last night for first time
>first souls game but she has been watching me play for months and was generally interested in it
>makes it to Index Gundyr
>dies over 30 times, getting all kinds of pissed off
>"dont even know why im playing this fucking game"
>gave her the standard tips, roll timing/stay moving/watch stamina bar but ultimately let her go at it on her own
>starts getting the hang of it, get him down to very low life constantly
>finally beats him and tells me how satisfying it felt after spending nearly 5 hours in the tutorial area
>goes into the firelink shrine and immidiately attacks Hawkwood thinking he was a hollow
>he BTFO's her over and over and over

Lol. Its hard out here for a newbie.
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>>158108734
>a direct sequel actually references the original game
>DLC also gives a shitton of unique and interesting lore
And the problem is?
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So is Follower's Sabre real or just some meme people are going with? I like the idea of an actual sabre in game, was pissed you couldn't get the sabre the falconer's used in DaS2. I really hope it doesn't become a cancerous meme sword like ccs.
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>>158108765
Np
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>>158108883
Haha, welcome to Dark Souls!
Am I right or am I right?
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What weapons are good at 18 str/40 dex?
Planning on trying out hollowslayer GS and CCS
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>>158108734
>people complain when old lore is referenced
>people complained that Father Ariandel wasn't Lloyd

I think /dsg/ just bitches for the sake of bitching.
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>>158108883

Please never impregnate that dumb bitch
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what are the odds of From pulling a Softs on ds3?
Did the upgrade ds2->Softs ever got a discount?

I'm reluctant to buy the season pass seeing how it's gonna add another ccs and o&u scythe edition, and I'm only considering it because of the arena.
maybe wait for next 2-3 patches? the next one isn't gonna do jack
I'm getting too hollow for this shit
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>>158108883
liked, subscribed and donated
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>>158108961
Hollowslayer is one of my favorites, used in my first playthrough at release and it was a beast.
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>>158108904
It's not better than CCS. It just has a gimmicky WA that people haven't learned to counter yet.
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>>158108904
literally ccs 2.0
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>>158108937

Sign down.
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>>158108904
It is, and will certainly become a meme for a while like Farron, then people will get used to the WA.
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>>158108645
>>158108734
Thanks.That shit's been bugging me ever since Priscilla namedropped him back in 1.

Shame we still have no fucking idea what her thing is, but this is good enough for me.
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>>158108961
slap on knight ring and you're practicall 27/40 which is great for any 2handed quality weapon
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>>158108403
ring of blades is a ring that gives flat phys damage

hex is a build that is both int and faith
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>>158108734
It's a fucking sequel though.

HEY GUYS REMEMBER THE ELITES IN HALO 1 WELL HERE THEY ARE AGAIN.
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>>158105042
That was sexy as fuck
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>>158109079
She's a real cutie, too.
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>acid surge getting nerfed

I hate this community so much
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>>158106708
please guys, anyone?
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>>158109304
that's some MLG tier fov
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>>158109304
>yfw she says her next line
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>>158109310
Give source.

It does 60 durability damage per second, though. That's enough to fully break the average weapon in less than a tenth longer than a second.
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>>158109326
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>>158109183
Thanks for reminding me, I'll probably go 22/40 and use knight's ring
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>Freide's Great Scythe

Fuck fuck FUCK this thing looks amazing. Xbros tell me everything about this beautiful weapon, I'm assuming dex/int is the way to go? I'm rock solid at the idea of scythes being decent again like back in the days of DS1
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How's the new torch weapon? Does it have a fun moveset? Torches are comfy af but the vanilla one is awful.
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Made a new character because I wanna play through the game once before the DLC comes out. What do you think?

What should be her name?
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>>158109405
i'm doing the same build right now (20/40 2handing)
probably going to use this for the dlc is my ng++ is too hard
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>>158109401
Feel free to use something to translate.

http://www.darksouls.jp/info/info_161022_1.html

Just like tears, it's a patch to fix nothing but it becase people are too dumb to avoid a highly telegraphed spell
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>>158109304
is gael the slave knight or ariamis
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>>158109484
https://tekeli.li/onomastikon/
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>>158109468
shit moveset
not every a true pyro weapon scaling wise
WA is slow as fuck
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>>158109484
>her

Nice try
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>>158109401
It's really easy to dodge though. Repair powder is when the cloud clips you.
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>>158109510
Not him but
woah
Thanks anon
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>>158104786
So it's terrible for Ultra Weapons, Godlike for Quality greatswords.
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>>158109513
Fuck this game.
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>>158109454
Adex/Aint scaling, Estr/Efth. Fully upgraded at 40dex/40int hits somewhere around 650 total AR.

The AR is highly misleading, though. The main scythe only does physical damage, and the offhand scythe only does magic damage. It isn't a paired weapon, it's a normal weapon. Fully unique moveset, different from other scythes.

The weapon art is a modified stance that pulls out the second scythe for as long as you hold the L2 button and puts it away when you release. The stance R1 is basically paired weapon L1s and costs no FP, and using it doesn't end your stance. The stance R2 covers the ground in front of you with frost, which explodes shortly after. This one does end your stance, and you'll have to pull the scythe out again after.
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>they can climb
oh fug
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>>158109454
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>>158109379
>"We really are the Dark Souls 3: Ashes of Arandiel, Ashen One."
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>>158109508
The slave knight.
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>>158109304

Tis good
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>>158109030

I'm going to unlock arch peak.
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So, is there any chance of them reverting back to the pre patch hyperarmor system, or can I drop the game for good?
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>>158109502

"Date and time
Delivery schedule adjustment in

Platforms
PlayStation4, Xbox One, Windows

Items to be major modifications and adjustments

Modification of the bug that endurance value damage of magic "injection of acid" exceeds the set value

After applying the latest update file, each version representation of the title upper left corner of the screen will be as follows.
App Ver 1.08
Regulation Ver 1.21

It should be noted that, due to this update file application, will conduct an extraordinary server maintenance.
Maintenance implementation schedule as soon as delivery date confirmed, once again your assistance."
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>>158109784
Hyperarmor works. Get more poise and spam R1 for infinite hyperarmor.

>>158104786
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>>158108026
sharp + crystal magic weapon
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>>158107496
The Celts and Germans were Pleating Steel.

Instead of just getting the steel and folding it over on itself, they weaved it in a sort of figure of eight.

This actually made it much stronger and flexible than just folding.

Roman's literally dropped Gladius use after they conquered Gaul because they just had Celts forge longswords.
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>>158109454

It's pretty sick.

Good range, and the regular R1 combo seems to be different to other scythes in that it has a third little twirl on it. Often just this on its own is a very strong attack without abusing the WA.

Instead of just having the WA bound to L2 it's actually a stance, this means the weapon isn't dual wield, you can still block with the Scythe, or use it with a shield.

The L2-R2 is a pretty big, but delayed AoE attack. Not too great for 1v1 but might work in ganks or in PvE, in terms of Area Denial it's kind of hard to exploit but it looks pretty nice. I've already got myself some revenge kills from people who don't know what it does yet.

The L2-R1 is absolutely bonkers, anime-tier nonsense with massive range and combos that seem to catch people ALOT. You can get stuck in the animation sometimes, but it's very hard to approach people during it.

As a bonus you can spam the Stance button to look silly, or hold it to look like a massive edgelord. So yes, expect to see this thing EVERYWHERE.

Damage is pretty respectable considering it's range and the fact it's essentially a dual-wield frost weapon.
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>>158109802
When is it coming out tho ?
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Can someone please drop me Vordt great hammer? Pc, password is ham
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>>158109907
>Roman's literally dropped Gladius use after they conquered Gaul because they just had Celts forge longswords.

Pretty sure that was only for the cavalry at first.
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>>158109638
>ccs
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Can you duplicate a save with CE?
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>>158109802
>acid surge isn't supposed to be that strong
fug
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>>158109963
Fuck forgot place
Undead Settlement bonfire
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>>158109983
It was a gradual process.

People seem to think Gladius and Greatshield was some kind of All conquering uberforce.

In reality, it was a bit shit, and the only reason the Roman's conquered so much is because they got a very easy mode starting area and Gauls are famous for hating the shit out of the other Gauls in the next village.
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>>158109638
Get up top and r2, down they go

Ladder has gotten me more kills than anything, especially the farron keep bonfire ladder, at least one phantom goes right off the edge everytime

I got a partywipe once that way, they all went sailing off the edge when they tried to attack me on the ladder and then AUUUUGH AIIIIIEEEEE AHHHHHHHHHH in rapid succession

Best part was the host would have lived if the sunbro didn't nudge him the 0.1 inches it took to make him fall when he running attacked

Then the watchdog shows up behind and looks confused, then realizes what happened and applauds
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>>158109638

>claws
>CCS
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>invade passive 2kat user called saber
>edgy chest, thief mask, rouge
>spams claw parries
>switches to bk glaive
>runs, turns, and either leaps or parries
>just rolls through everything
>two watchdogs invade
>same shit
>he decides to run behind sage fog wall
>shoots arrows and occasionally runs out to bk glaive r1
>black crystal
worse than the invasions that make you mad are the ones that make you feel dead inside
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>>158110048
Unupgraded is fine, right?
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>>158109956
Not yet finalized, date isn't announced.
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>>158109994
it's not even that good
champ took like 5 billion hits

>>158110092
i'd use parrying dagger if it didn't suck
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>>158110009
no all you need is some deft copy pasting skills
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>>158110132
yep, I couldnt take it, even at +1
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>>158109994
>>158110092
who gives a cr*p it's pve
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>>158110160
no, he means duplicating one of the characters withing the savefile

ie. leaving one at sl50 and then leveling one to sl120
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>>158109637
>>158109638
>>158109939

Great thanks m8s, I was thinking of going to 18 int (or whatever the least requirement is for snap freeze) then solely leveling dex. Is the int scaling that important given you only do magic damage in stance? If it is I can bump int up to 40.
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>that javalin throw

WEW
It's pretty gud 10/10
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>>158110009
you don't even need CE to do that
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what the fuck is with this TERRIBLE lack of fashion?
BB got off the hook with the low amount of sets because they had a different style, but DS2 knocks this kusoge out of the park with the amount of armor sets and fashion potential
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>>158110318
What are you talking about? Now we have to minmax for poise and that's fashion as fuck. See dark souls 1.
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>>158110228

Seems the int scaling is mostly inefficient unless you actually want to use spells, and Snap Freeze doesnt scale with any kind of scaling, so go ahead.

Could feasibly do a very good twink with this build, as you can with most dex scaling weapons.
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>>158110225
Oh that's easy

Get dks3 save manager off Nexus
Open your save
Next to the button that says 'save slot as bin' select the slot you wanna export
Save it in the same folder as the program

Go into game
Make new character, note which slot he uses
Go back to program
Select the slot you just made
Select your exported save bin and hit the 'inject bin to save slot' button

You should have a full copy of your other character now, now load the new slot

You should probably do this offline just to be safe
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>>158109939
>normal scythe only does physical damage
>389 physical AR
>second scythe only does magic damage
>259 magic AR

This doesn't seem terribly strong outside the paired attacks, and even those would only be stronger with Int investment.
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>>158110534
I'm on PS4 though will it work?
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>>158110382
While having functional stats is cool, I never gave a rats ass about poise.
This DLC still feels awfully low on content though

Is this Miyazaki's Phantom Pain? The game where he stopped caring and cuts off the franchise after he's done with the game?
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>invade
>its a nip
>its a nip unironically using 3 friendly phantoms to run through a level
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So I hear hammers are really good now. What about the drang hammers? Have they benefited from the hammer changes?
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>>158110579
Oh

In that case I dont think so
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>>158110623
lol no
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>>158110603
I hope that now that they have introduced the arena function they can focus instead on PVE in the next DLC. I guess they'll still make a new arena which is fine because the one we have is ugly.

>inb4 they make that a separate dlc
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>>158110623
only 2h hammers did
drangs only got an r1 speed up
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>>158110623
They have more forward momentum in their animation, but since they can't be two handed they don't have poise.
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can't wait for acid surge to go from being actually usable and useful (yet completely punishable as you can just backstab a caster) to completely useless once more
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so is VIT useful now?
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>>158110858
Yep since you need poise to use heavy weapons. But poise is more reliable now rather than it being a mysterious bar that you don't know when is going to deplete. If you can poise through an attack you can poise through it everytime as long as it's not multihits.
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>>158110837
Tbh 60 durability damage per second is a bit too high imo
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>it's another "red invader decides to attack other invaders instead of the host" episode

...
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>>158110858

Yeah but you need like 40 levels of it.
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>>158110837
If Acid Surge stayed the way it is then all it would mean is that people would have to upgrade copies of their weapons to stay competitive. It'd do nothing but add tedium to making a complete build.
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>>158110957
>If you can poise through an attack you can poise through it everytime as long as it's not multihit
so, poise regenerates fully when you stop getting hit for a second or something? any sauce?
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>>158110973
I have 30+ +10 weapons in my main character. Gonna be funny having to keep changing weapons if repair powder doesn't cut it.

>>158111007
Not really. You can poise through 2h greatsword attacks with 30~35 poise with UGS. Can get that with like 25 vit.
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How is invading going these days, /dsg/?

Do I need to go up to SL140 to get some people who actually know how to fucking wait for 3 invaders instead of just running into a 1v3 gank situation and dying? This is getting real annoying as SL125
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do we know the stats of full Elfriede set?
thinking about making her cosplay for SL40-50 range but i need to know whether or not incorporate prisoner's chain
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trying out sellsword twinblades (for pve bosses) with pontiff rings and wolf sword on my back

should i be spamming the double attack or what?
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>>158111089
literally the 6th post in the thread
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>>158110973
tbqh 1000ar for every 2 swings is a bit too high imo
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>>158110534
Thank you
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Does greathammer HA just start super late or some shit?
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Xfriends, take the ladder that rights before the bridge after the first bonfire.
>tfw snowboarding
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>>158111185
no, the whole animation is just slow.
use WA>R2>R1 and hope you don't get rollbs
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>>158111105
Terrible as it always was. As long as hosts can continuously summon up to 3 phantoms at a time, hold 14 flasks, have those same phantoms heal 7+ times independently, and estus is almost completely unpunishable invading will always be absolutely 0 fun.
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>>158111089
It resets every time you attack with the weapon. Every weapon has its own poise hp and that's the poise hp you'll get.
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>>158111101
>You can get 30-35 poise with 25 vit

Yeah. if you use Havel's ring +2, Wolf ring +2 and Ring of Favor +2 and generally have exactly zero choice because you need to Hyper-optimise the entire thing JUST to get the HA you had pre-patch.
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>no one's ripped the boss themes yet

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158111185
maybe you need poise?
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>>158111134

double attack and weapon art, make sure you have enough stamina to activate the rings
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>>158111356
i could hum it and post the recording if you like
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>>158111284
so if poise HP is tied to the weapon, not the armor, what does armor/VIT do to increase it? make the HP drop slower?
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>>158111281
>yet another inbred motherfucker cries about invasions while it's an immense fuckton of fun to invade in ng ranges
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>>158111393
do i need mana for the WA?
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>>158111401
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>>158111047
You could, you know, literally walk backwards if it was cast at point blank against you
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>>158111401
please do
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>>158111412
It gives HP "Armor"

It's honestly debatable if it's worth it anymore.
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>>158111281
And don't forget the giant tree seed surplus.

Every world is seeded, no exceptions. So much for rarity.
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>>158107957
The bloodborne community is FAR less cancerous than the Souls one, just like the Demon's souls community and dark souls community before prepare to die edition.

PC brought in the majority of shitters.
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>>158111138
cheers
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>>158111412
Yes, they act as absorption against Poise damage. If I'm not wrong, having 100 Poise means you basically have infinte hyper armor but that's impossible to get, 45 is the pre-patch levels by rough estimation.
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>>158111438

very little, farron ring and simple offhand is more than enough
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>>158111415
>look guys I got a 2v1 kill! Invasions are fine!
Wow dude congrats!
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>>158108989
You know a general is shit when people post this.

You can't even hold a conversation dude, quit posting.
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>>158108461
How is the game supposed to magically remove lag and latency from internet connections?
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>>158111601
>he's still trying to invade past SL 100 like a retard where there is nothing but ganks

120 is duel meta, for duels, invade at levels where you find people actually playing the game
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>>158111579
i don't have room for farron ring ;_;
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>>158111345
Havel's Ring +2 is not necessary, and you also can't get the HA you had pre-patch because it worked pretty different.

I use a great club with havel chest(22 poise), wolf ring+2 and rof+2, and I have plenty of equip load left to reach 35 poise without even using wolf ring. So much that I use a side weapon that weighs 9. Get your shit together and you'll be able to poise through most weapons.
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>>158111454
>parting flame.png
>>158111646
i didn't know we were conversing. i just read your blog and upvoted it
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>>158111646
this isn't your fucking blog dude
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>>158108978
Ariandel being lloyd was Vaati's shitty theory. Anyone backing it is just a vaati zombie who takes his word as gospel.
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>>158111601
how does it feels when actually adequate people will make invasion builds for ng ranges and have a fuckton of fun while you shitpost here about poor invaders non-stop for months without actually playing the game?
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>>158111692
Too bad everyone plays the game with 3 phantoms who can all heal nonstop. All lower SL does is restrict your ability to deal with it even more.
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>>158111575
Anon as long as your poise can resist the attack you can resist it again infinitely, if they aren't multihits. This wasn't the case before patch. Now you can know for sure if you can poise through things.
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>>158111780
Pick a non pontiff place and actually try invading at it at proper levels, you'll see that's not actually the case. You're probably still salty because release invasions
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>>158111772
>implying you're actually having "a fuckton of fun"
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>>158111780
you don't understand shit in the game you dumb nigger
at lower ranges you have weapon level advantage, immense ring advantage that gives you like 20 free levels, hornet ring, estus flask power advantage, regen gear advantage and all your opponents are simple pve shitters with phantoms having 500 hp
if you can't win even low-level invasions you're just awful at the game, plain and simple
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>>158111716
Post your build then though.

It's fine to say "Oh I can use it with the Lightest Ultra ever"

Fact is, you just proved the entire fucking point.

You're ONLY able to use a side weapon after you dedicate two ringslots and Wear Havels armor.

Meanwhile, Dex and Quality can have tons of different options.

I have a quick little tip.

Try building a Strength/Faith build. It's impossible now.
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>>158111912
You don't have weapon level advantage at all, you have to keep within a typically lower than normal upgrade level actually.
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>>158111772
You mean people who twink the fuck out and then brag about not being able to handle shit their own level like >>158111912
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>>158111758
>>158111732
>telling a story is blogging.


Exactly what im talking about.

I can tell you dont go to any other non shit generals. You can actually tell a story without being spammed by autists like you guys.

Again, try holding down a conversation for once, youll find it really appealing!
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>>158111995
>+2 at high wall
>lower than normal
retard, please
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>>158111995
Not fir twinks. Given that From streamlined hiw easy it is to get titanite. At HW most hosts are +0 or +1 with luck, so you can be +2.
By settlement, most people upgraded once so you are +3.
By cathedral/woods/swamp there's enough shards for +3, but the availability if large ones is so small yiu get to be+5.
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>>158111995
>+2 for high wall
>+2-4 for entirety of the game up to abyss watchers
>+6 for irithyll
>lower than normal
stop posting
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>low level invasions give twink invaders such a massive advantage they can 1v3 all the time
>high level invasions are 3 phantom fuckfests complete with legion etiquette
BUT WHAT IF I WANT TO INVADE OUTSIDE THE 40 TO 60 RANGE FROMSOFT
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>>158111415
This desu. You run into fucked up situations sometimes, sure, but it's still fun as hell. No amount of /dsg/'s whining will change that.
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>>158111912
meanwhile, in any other souls game you can invade wherever you want at whatever level you want with no issues
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>>158112043
>how dares he to actually have a good build
Kek
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>>158112152
>>158112141
>>158112062
>implying you aren't swimming in titty shards before the first boss
stop posting any time.
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>each summon removes 1/3 of the 'embered' hp boost

happy?
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>>158112046
try presenting an argument to converse next time. or, if you actually want to tell a story instead of converse (two different things) try to have a story that is somewhat interesting. but by all means, don't let me stop you. go to one of these "non shit" generals and share your bland and flavorless experiences, i'm sure they'll be glad to listen
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>>158111970
>dedicate two ringslots
You don't use rof+2 in every build you have? Damn.

Here though just an example https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/99949

not really my build.
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>>158112232
You should get 3 summons per invader. You still get to 4v1 but you can't infinite summon.
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>>158112221
>twink
>good build
I find it funny how you people tell others to "git gud" then post your skillful twink webms
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>>158112216
This is completely false.
Invading in DS1 past SL100 is as much of a shitfest as in DS3.
In fact, invaders in DS1 are in constant danger of invading SL700 with 99 in all stats because lmao infinite upwards invasion range.
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>>158111780

>actually complaining about low level invasions
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Is there a PS4 save editor yet? Need to get a PvP character ready for the DLC
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Ariandel is a pure waifu
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>>158111692
I invade pre-pontiff all the time, it's still crap.

Basically every single person you invade has at least 1 phantom, sometimes 2 or 3. Almost everyone is using Carthus or straight swords or some other LOL SPAM weapon with huge phantom range. Any time I manage to kill a phantom or two, the host sprints away and summons more phantoms. And lets not forget that if someone is focusing entirely on dodging and not attacking, it's basically impossible to hit them thanks to the fact that everyone can roll 50 times and not run out of stamina. Oh and about 70% of worlds are seeded when you come in; and then 25% of the unseeded worlds become seeded as soon as you invade.

So a red has to
1. Kill an infinite number of respawning helper phantoms that are all kitted out with meme meta gear

2.Kill a host that can dodge 99% of attacks by just spamming roll and can chug with impunity. Oh and lloyd's talismans last like 20 seconds, you can only hold five and they're slow and obvious as fuck.


3. Fight off the attacks of the entire level while doing this.

Yeah, invasions are great.
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>>158112307
just make killed summon slots unreplaceable with an invader present
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>>158112046
you're the type of person who tells about his/her day to a stranger without being asked.
you consider this conversation despite no one having interest in it
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>>158112320
In 1 being max level doesn't give you as much of an advantage as it does in the other games.
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>>158112313
Twinks have extremely optimized (read: good) builds by definition, my dear retard.
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>>158112350
Ariandel is the big lordvessel dude
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>>158112330
>Twinks hard
>B-But Low level Invasions

Why are twinks probably the most pathetic people ever?
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>>158112320
I've never had trouble taking down a max level player. I did NG+ invasions on my SL120 all the time.
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>>158112392
You realise the infinite range works at any SL? Unless you're a dorkmoon, I could go anywhere with maxed stats and make a SL50 fight my maxed character at a popular area, say, anor londo
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>>158112401
good builds, shit players.
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>>158112401
Yes, and they're just as broken as sl120+ invasions.
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>>158112392
>like 2500 HP
>enormous amount of true stagger immunity while keeping fast roll
>retarded damage output on some weapons like greatsword of artorias
>99 fai DMB estocs
The only thing that saved invaders from being annihilated all the time is crazy crit damage bonus on backstabs which is virtually the only thing they could do against SL700s
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>>158112401
>I-I got gud!
>Needs to Twink
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>>158112242
Argument? I just told a story, and you responded like someone who doesnt know how to talk to someone, my bad i keep forgetting im on dsg :^) which at this point is a containment thread.

>>158112376
No one told about my day, i was talking about a video game, I know talking about the game is blogging, so why do you even post, in fact your actually blogging right now
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>>158112330
Not really far. The dragonslayer axe is disgustingly overpowered at any level.
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post satisfying WA kills webms
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>>158112496
>moving goalposts
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AH SHIT NIGGA ITS THE SAME THEME AGAIN
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>>158111912
>PVP is easy!
>I mean, yeah, I twink the fuck out of my character and only invade low level newbies when I have a massive advantage in every conceivable way.
>But if you fail it means you suck.

I'm not sure if this is Bait or if you're just retarded.
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>>158112432

Do you have trouble reading?
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>>158112579
>implying he's wrong
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>>158112280
Your build falls apart when you need to use any weapon over 18 weight.

So basically, it rules out a ton of useful Ultra weapons.

And even then, Poise is still to low to reach pre-patch Hyper armor.
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Is the painter girl a crossbreed ?
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>>158112350
ariandel is a dude and probably the childlike empress of the painted world
>>158112307
>>158112371
the best solution i've seen was lucy's i think. keep the host at a "praying"/"touch summon sign" animation until the phantom arrives. you can cancel the animation but it cancels the summon. this way pve isn't affected but hosts can't roll a million times waiting for their phantoms
>>158112548
conversations consist of arguments. learn the basics
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>>158112367
SL 70 invasions seems to be alright from my experience. White phantoms never seem to have much hp when I invade.
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>>158112575
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>>158112494
Who cares? You're more likely going to run into lower level players if you're invading Anor Londo at SL50. It's not like DaS3 where the game intentionally tries to match you into the worst situations possible.
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Crow weapons are fucking amazing.

Best new dex weapons.
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>>158112615
Oh. Do tell me how that Webm of some mongoloid spamming R1 with the Dragonslayer Axe for half their HP was skillful or difficult?

Read >>158112609
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>>158112632
Conversations do not allways have to be arguments.

Again your coming at this with an aggressive approach. Your making me laugh, you legit dont know how to talk to people.
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how do I bind a certain motion, for example kicking, to my controller?
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>>158112609
>I'm tired of invasions wgere the odds are stacked against me and I always lose
>if you do this, the game mechanics don't punish you as much
>stop playing that way!

What do you want invasions to be then?
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>>158112712
New scythe is even better. It's so good for roll catching and estus punishing.
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>A longer CCS with guardbreak
Thank fuck Miyazaki, just the balance patch I needed
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>>158112745
an argument isn't a disagreement. as i said, learn the basics first
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>>158112673
>SL50 invasions in dark souls 1

You can't lose as an invader then. The advantages of the host are far from enough.
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>>158112627
She mentions that her mother wished for a peaceful painted world and she's fulfilling her wish. You do the math.
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>tfw 3 days until the first DLC and I still haven't even finished the game

What can I do? I can't even decide on a SL 120 build for PvP wtf help.
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>>158112376
>>158111758
>>158111732
Just an FYI, im the one who blogged, not the person youre aguing with. Dont worry i wont greentext stories that dont have to do with CCS complaining anymore lol. I didnt care.
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>>158112575
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>>158112330
Twinking and low level invasions are not the same thing. Low level invading is invading at low levels when you both have similar gear. Twinking is just invading at low levels when you have a disgusting advantage over your opponents. It's the preferred method of people too shit to actually fight anyone on their level, so they just use huge numerical advantages to replace skill.
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>>158112621
You can do the same with dragon tooth(21 weight) and reach 30~35 poise really easily so you can trade with 2h greatswords, one handed UGS even probably, though you don't need to do that. Great hammers have more poise hp than UGS also. Don't know why you would use dragon tooth since it's just a heavier, worse, great club.
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>>158112767
True, but the moveset is godly.

Crow talon WA and the dual animations of crow quills are fucking 10/10
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>being a lord of londor gives new lines
BIG FUCKING M DOES IT AGAIN
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>>158112829
if you walk into the dlc at sl120 it will be a joke
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>>158112627
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>>158112819
No one said anything about disagreements you dumb shit.
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>>158112851
but he's being stupid and i must show him
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>>158112890
the WA is dogshit m8
not even 100 damage
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>>158112758
>>if you do this, the game mechanics don't punish you as much
Yeah, they make the hosts life as hard as an invaders with 27vig at sl120 invading post pontiff

Invaders should give hosts an advantage yes, but not as massive an advantage as it currently is, I certainly don't want ds1 tier shit
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give me some good reaction image ideas related to Dark Souls that I can sketch. I need something to do while I sober up lmao
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>>158112632
Summoning is fine the way it is. Invaders already have huge advantages against the average host.

You pvp fags want to nerf one of the only ways an average player has to defend himself. Just so you can have an easier time against the rare gank squad.

If you really wanted an honest fight you would be dueling and not invading. Invasions aren't meant to be balanced and even fights.
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>>158112825
Yes, low level invading was too good in DaS1, I'm not going to argue that. It's still too good in the later games, and now higher level invasions are a shitfest for no reason.
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>>158112896
gonna need some sauce on that
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>>158112875
>My Build only works for one weapon
>This makes strength builds viable.

See, the point I am making and you braindead fucks not understanding is. You need to Optimise every single tiny detail of a Strength build and it's Still supremely limited because HA is mandatory.

So you can't pick your armor, you can't pick your rings, you can't pick your weapon.

Congrats. You found the Great Club build. It's still weaker than it was Prepatch.
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>>158112851
we know that because he's the 82th IP in the thread.
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>>158112948
Show him with your kindness, anon
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>>158112958
I meant it looks good.

The weapons might be shit, but they look nice.
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>>158112172
Come and serve High Lord Wolnir my dude. You'll still invade people who are cancerous but you'll have a lot of environmental advantages.
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>>158112896
Also, Yuria comments on you killing Elfriede. She doesn't really give a fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hYFx2X4_5k
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>>158112210
I unironically enjoy playing metal gear solid with the host and his buddies. Assassination kills are the best.
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>>158112723
>>158112872

>6 months later
>people S T I L L don't understand the reason behind twinking in DaS3

I'm going to say this one more time, after this I'll stop responding to you fucking retards:

THE REASON PEOPLE TWINK IS NOT TO POOP ON SHITTERS IN 1V1s, IT'S TO MAKE 1V4 AND 1V3s FAIR.
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>>158112992
>Low level

I would rather call them mid level 2bh. Mid level invasions 50-70 seems pretty balanced in dark souls 3 from my experience. Both the host(with his phantoms) and the invader has good chances.

That's why I recommend that range for everybody who wants a really enjoyable invasion experience.
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DLC IS OUT ON PS4

DLC IS OUT ON PS4

DLC IS OUT ON PS4

IF YOU BOUGHT THE SEASON PASS THE DLC IS PLAYABLE RIGHT NOW
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>>158112937
So she isnt Ariamis? If it's the person who created the painted world it can't be Pricilla daughter
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>>158112632
>ariandel is a dude and probably the childlike empress of the painted world
>dude
>empress

nani???
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>>158108205
I have never heard anyone use voice chat ever
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>>158113141
makes sense,elfri gave up on the church
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>>158113075
I know im going to regret asking this, but how can you see that?
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Does anyone know the weight of the new DLC Viking armor?
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>>158113101
all my kindness is funneled directly in my doge so i can be edgelord with everyone else
>>158113216
have you not read the neverending story, you pleb?
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>>158113205
it's a preload.
Always happens on PS4 2-3 days before release
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>>158113194
Sure, and my using CE isn't to cheat on those ears, it's to make grinds go faster.
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Are maces meta now? If so, which?
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>>158113194
>It's to make 1v3 fair
>Hurr let me Two hit people while taking minimal damage
>I-it's fair
>here let me use Poison and Acid surge, it's fair when I am an utter cock

No, people twink to get advantages they need because they're shit.
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>>158113205
REALLY
WHY ISNT IT COMING OUT ON PC
FUCK I WANT TO PLAY IT
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>>158113265
You need a 4chan pass. Then just select enable IDs and show unique IDs
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>>158113265
by being a wizard
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>>158113265
It's a feature on 4chan X. It might be a feature on the vanilla extension, I'm not sure.
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Could someone kind drop me a Black Hand chest piece on PC? Went NG+ and don't feel like progressing all the way to Grand Archives.
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>>158113213
It's never mentioned. The girl never introduces herself, and she's only refered to as "The painter"in the game files/updated credits.
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>>158113308
Its playable you nitwit on both Xbone and PS4 fuck off
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>>158113364
Item swap it offline my boy
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>>158112914

What's the recommended level for DLC?
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>>158113049
>my build only works for one weapon
I never said that and that's not true. You can put more points into vit if you want or need, and take some points from str because in the end HA trading is more important than raw damage. You just have to build for it instead of being in rags. And my great clubs poise won't randomly break mid fight for no reason, so it is in a way better than prepatch. Don't need to remind you about offhand yhorms builds do I?

Before I played in literal rags with a great club, I get what you're saying, but I think this is a better system for poise. Poise could be buffed, yes, but this is better in the end.

Also as long as you have some poise you can trade every time against small weapons, and heavier weapons will also need to build for poise.
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>>158109939
what is that other weapon in the right slot?
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>>158113418
70-80
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>>158113413
no >:(
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>>158113327
>>158113345
>>158113362
What on gods gay earth have i been doing with my life
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>>158113410
They patched the xbone and there hasn't been a single bit of evidence of it playable on PS4.

It's a preload you faggot.
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Alright /dsg/, what's the most fun weapon from the dlc for pvp? Gonna make an optimised build from scratch tonight and race to SL100.
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>>158113468
it's the kilij
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>>158112494
>>158112527
What do you dumb fucks get out of pretending like you know what you're talking about?
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>>158113478
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How to rollcatch?
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>>158112758
>>158112758
I want them to make invasions less shit at ALL levels.

1. Let us hold more lloyds, and make them actually last a reasonable amount of time.

2.Prevent hosts from summoning phantoms when invaded. Phantoms they have are fine but letting them instantly summon an infinite number of phantoms is broken.

3. Remove giant seeds or make them MUCH rarer.

Just make shit not so fucking stacked against invaders and it would be fine. Twinking is a good way to win, yeah, but it's also boring as fuck. You might as well just CE infinite health because there's no fucking challenge in it. Your swings do like 70% of their health and you're always guaranteed to stun lock them for at least two hits.

It reminds me of the endless twink invasions of the Burg back in the day. Oh yeah, a guy in full havels and wielding a +5 lightning weapon sure is gonna have an exciting fight with a guy in starting gear with a fucking scimitar.

Is it so wrong to just want something between unwinnable gank and boring curbstop?
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>Due to a logistical error, the Dark Souls III Ashes of Ariandel DLC was made available for download for a short period of time for Xbox One players. We have since corrected this scheduling error and the Dark Souls III Ashes of Ariandel DLC will now be available on October 24, 2016 at 3 PM PDT for Steam players and October 24, 2016 at 9 PM PDT for console players. We regret any confusion this may have caused to players and Dark Souls III fans; we look forward to seeing everyone within the world of Ariandel."
>Dark Souls III Ashes of Ariandel DLC will now be available on October 24, 2016

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-dlc-released-early-on-xbox-one-by-acc/1100-6444708/
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>Blackflame chick is ludwig orphan AND maria all into one
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>>158113513
Haven't tried any of it yet since lmaops4, but the dex weapons seem good for dueling while the strength looks good for invasions. I'm gonna make a 40/40 for dex and int for that glorious 2scythe.
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>>158113515
they brought the kilij back in the dlc?
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>>158113205
Not working for me
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>>158113205
Oh fuck anon was telling the truth

DLC IS NOW PLAYABLE ON PS4 GUYS
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>>158112797

CCS is still a lot better, it will remain the #1 meta
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>>158113421
>HA trading is more important than raw damage
>I know, I'll remove more of the Damage that Strength weapons biggest strength is, for the option to trade equally with a faster user maybe.

No, you braindead retard. This is not a better system for Poise. a Better system for poise would be to extend the iframes of HA or something.

Right now Strength is basically as much of a Meme build as a luck build. I mean Post-patch. Maces are better than greatmaces now.

Let that sink in. This isn't better at all.
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>>158113265
You need a 4chan pass. Then just select enable IDs and show unique IDs>>158113572
>Is it so wrong to just want something between unwinnable gank and boring curbstop?

It is. Go duel, invasions are now about stacking odds on the host or invader sides as much as possible.
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>>158113638
Is the joke the lower quality of the image that would make people assume it's on console? I'd check but I'd have to get the season pass tomorrow.
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>>158113603
It's still releasing at the same time.

9PM PDT is still the 25th for the rest of the world.
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Alright /dsg/, this post. This post right here:

>>158113315

You see that? There's nothing wrong with the invasion system in Dark Souls 3. 1v4s with extra HP, double the Estus and infinite summons? Completely fair. Can't deal with the 1v4s? Lol git gud m8. Wait, you're using the Hornet Ring and a strong weapon to stand a chance? wow ur bad at the game, you fucking scrub.

Fucking kill yourself. I'm out.
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>>158113603
well that's some good news
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>>158113603
>Dark Souls III Ashes of Ariandel DLC will now be available on October 24, 2016
Not much of a difference, but it's good they acknowledged it.
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>>158113421
>heavy weapon builds having to spend 30+ points in VIT to do what they were able to do by default pre patch, all while fast light weapons are untouched, is better
no
shut up
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>>158113628
V tempted by that scythe, but wary because everyone and their mother will end up using it, meaning its counters will be learned soon.
Might go with the quills or that greataxe.
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>>158113572
>1. Let us hold more lloyds, and make them actually last a reasonable amount of time.
This isn't going to do anything if it's still near impossible to hit a defensive player.

>2.Prevent hosts from summoning phantoms when invaded. Phantoms they have are fine but letting them instantly summon an infinite number of phantoms is broken.
This will never happen. Invading is supposed to be the counterbalance to co-op.

>3. Remove giant seeds or make them MUCH rarer.
I think it would be more interesting if there was some amount of skill in using them. Like having to chuck them at the enemies you want to attack the invader, similar to Rapport. Either that or let me Duel Charm them off the host.
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I'm trying to make a 120 dexfag that isn't relying on bleeds. Is darkmoon blade my only other option if I don't want to suck balls?
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>>158113194
But it's not fair. See, I understand it as a tactic, I really do. But it's not fair because even in 3v1 they have no chance so long as you're not completely brain dead.

This is the problem; either the host has a stupidly huge advantage or the invader is totally overpowered. There's rarely any middle ground.
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Hey guys, ive done it finally
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ASHES IS ON PS4
ASHES IS ON PS4
ASHES IS ON PS4
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>>158113308
>>158113410
>>158113205
>>158113638
How? Not working for me
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>>158113740
>WAAAAAAH Why won't people respect me for twinking

Because any fucker can make a two hit build and just R1 through everyone.
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>>158113805
wow sick blog dude.
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>>158113780
>I think it would be more interesting if there was some amount of skill in using them. Like having to chuck them at the enemies you want to attack the invader, similar to Rapport. Either that or let me Duel Charm them off the host.
agreed
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>>158113648
They did improve ha frames! anon told me so!

Now listen here you fuck. I don't give a shit if heavy weapons are underpowered, that doesn't make the poise system bad. I'd rather it be this way and they buff things from now on than have the old poise system. Face it there's no way they could just do demon's souls hyper armor when they have all this shit about poise.
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>crow quills
>sharp = S scaling in dex
>130 crit
>literally does more damage than ultra weapons with ripostes
>while being a super light and thrusting sword
>while also being buffable
>while also having a range attack WA

What
The
FUCK
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>>158112968
painter girl riding a giant crow and having fun
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>>158113854
>Weapons have inate frams of HA
>Poise buffs this frames like rolling frames Adp did.

There. Fixed. I can be a Strength build without wearing a clown suit for 40 poise and have no room for rings.

People who want to have huge HA iframes can be super specific.
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>>158113802

Maybe at <SL25, but not at SL50-70. Impossible there for the invader to have a significant advantage.
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>>158113957
>>158113648


Hyper armor should not have immunity frames. Please nerf poise now
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>>158113603
>9am on a tuesday
>finish nightfill at 6am
>will probably stay up instead of going to bed
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>>158113903

Looks like I just got myself a weapon to build around it.
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Man this dlc was disappointing, how do they even go from releasing stuff like toh and then just boom it's back to dark souls 2 level of trash content
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>>158113903

So.....it's the regular Rapier?
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>>158113903
>>literally does more damage than ultra weapons with ripostes
Riposites and BS were supposed to be stuff for lighter weapons as their strategy to make up for lower AR and not having the good fighting capabilities or other small ones like SS and similar.

Of course, given how From can't into balance to make that system mean anything, we just hit each other's backs with oversized slabs
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>>158113957
Isn't that just the old poise system? It was shitty

Heavy armor right now should be active in every frame of heavy weapon attacks. This would make having poise and minmaxing your armor actually worth it.
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>dark souls pvp
https://youtu.be/eE6AR_nNpLQ?t=8m30s
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>>158114039
>Immunity frames

What? Hyper Armor should prevent stagger, this is Mandatory on Ultra weapons in Dark souls and has been so since DeS.
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>>158114072
BB was made with love, DaS 2 and 3 are shameless cashcrabs
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>>158114072
Bamco B-team, I don't know how people still believe they aren't the culprit when we get gems like BB from other publishers but bamco games consistently suck and are jewy with DLC at fucking launch.
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>>158113740

To be fair, CCS is pretty insane in invasions too. It's probably the one weapon I can use and take on ganks by myself without parry one shot fishing. It's basically the only kind of weapon that allows you to properly and constantly roll catch people and run them down when they're trying to roll away to chug estus.

Currently debating whether it's worth getting 30 faith for LB or DMB or if I should go with Carthus Flame Arc since it requires a lot less stats, idk.
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>>158114119
Whoops meant Hyper armor, not heavy armor.

>>158114136
That's not me it's just some anon shitposting. I'm >>158114119
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is there a magic number for poise? I'm sitting at 39 poise and I'm using the mace, but I'm getting hit out of my animations.
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Ps4 can not play dlc yet. I just checked multiple times.
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>>158104786
>Curved GS 24 poise
THIS PLEASES ME GREATLY
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>>158114212
Can you into tumblebuff/gesturebuff? If you can, make a dark CCS with dark blade, it's my number 1 gank killing tool
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>>158114231
Anon poise isn't fucking magic, it can't stop you from being staggered by heavy weapons. Mace only resists light weapons like straight swords, rapiers, curved swords, maybe greatswords if you have A LOT of poise. And some attacks have more poise damage than others, like heavy attacks and weapon arts.
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>>158114121

That was a fine gankspank.
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What are my options for a dex build? Bleed and darkmoon blade?
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>>158113825
It is not, quit your lying. I'm staring at the screen right now and it says

>2d 12:52:xx (seconds)
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How are maces in the patch? Heard that thhey kick ass in pvp now.
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>>158114121
I don't see what's wrong, the video is neat and the BS spam part is actually O&S making repeated healing mistakes.
It's actually pretty neat and I'd have loved to be the blue and help this guy, far more fun than invasions in 2 or 3.
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>>158113903
It's the normal rapier with a fistful of daggers in the left had. Keep in mind that you can't parry with a fistful of daggers in your left hand.

>>158113957
That's retarded, and you're ignorant. Poise making HA longer just removes skill from the equation.
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>>158114121
I suddenly want to play DaS1 again. Thanks.
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>>158114257
Be sure to have at least 30 poise. I was resisting another curved gs with mine with 34 poise.

>>158114420
They have more forward momentum in their attacks, when two handed they have HA and they have high poise damage.
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>>158113825
Who is the semon demon?
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>>158114245
>>158114404

I'm playing it right now
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>>158114119
>Isn't that just the old poise system?
No. The only difference between poise now and poise in the previous patch is you have less poise health but it resets to 80% every time you attack.
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REMOVE REFINED
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>>158114543
Looks like the vampire princess from Steven Universe
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>>158114121
This is actually pretty sexy
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Anyone have the list of the damage dealt by weapons?
I'm trying to see how much poise I need to tank 2 CS hits, but I can't find their poise damage.
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>>158114507
Instead. Poise now just removes Ultra weapons from the Equation.

Because even now people get randomly broken out of HA by things like pyromancies and you need a godly amount of Poise to have HA work on anything not called Great club.
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>>158114570
Show buttons, lying fucker.

>>158114646
There's nothing random about poise now. It is now fully predictable and doesn't require vague assumptions and asspull maths.
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>>158114570
Open a menu and show the buttons like if it says press circle or space bar or whatever

Also that looks like PC graphics. The ps4 has more graphics than that
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>>158114697
>Has 3 million Variables now
>B-But it's predictable

Yeah, the biggest variable is "It's worthless on large weapons"
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>>158114570
>that res

not fooling anyone bub
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>>158114590
That's a good thing. Now you can always poise through attacks if you can, instead of it randomly breaking. Just needs to be buffed.

Also you're not exactly right. When you're attacking, your poise hp changes to your weapon's poise hp. 24 or 27 for example.
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>>158114536
Tthey sound really solid. Now thats neat. Worth using the great hammers? Beard thatvpeople were having success with them
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>>158113780
No, the summon thing is valid. They can just summon endlessly and it's bullshit

Either make it so that the host can't see a player's sign anymore after they've been slain if an invader is active, and make it so that new signs arent sent to the host until the invader is gone/they die, this stops them from both summoning their password buddies over and over again, and puts a limit on how much they can summon during an invasion. They can still summon a party but they're going to run out sooner or later.

Giant seeds should be changed to be not just rare, but also limited to one at a time (new ones won't drop until the current is used) and limited to like 10-15 per playthrough. They should also have ab e
element of risk to them, with a 30% chance that instead of aggroing the mobs to everyone, it instead backfires and makes the mobs BP versions with increased aggression and aggro range and only attack the host and his phantoms. It makes the seed a last resort item that can either turn the tide or horribly backfire, adding an element of risk to using one.
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>>158114756
Are you ignorant? The number of variables hasn't changed at all from the last patch. There are three variables: the poise health of your attacks, the amount of poise break your opponent's attacks inflict, and the amount of armor poise you have that reduces that poise break. It's that simple.
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>>158114904
please no rng bullshit what is wrong with you
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>>158114756
>3 million variables
As in "just get better armor and you can poise through attacks?"

>>158114879
Great hammers are still just as slow and heavy, so you need more vit to carry them. They have a lot of poise damage though and more poise hp.
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>YFW TWO BOSSES
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>>158114268
Tumblebuff and gesturebuff have been patched.
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>>158114990
Where were you when people actually thought this shitstain would be close to ToH and not like the shit 2's DLCs?
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So, any practical poise breakpoints yet? I'm using a greatsword right now, how much should i get on minimum?
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>>158114904
Can you faggots please stop crying about seeds endlessly?

They are perfectly balanced.

Seeds are incredibly rare and you will never have enough seeds for every invader who will ALWAYS run to mobs for help.
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>>158114990
>1 boss has 3 THREE phases
>and they're not that much different from one another
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>Doing the earth seeker WA near a ledge makes the earthquake continue down on the ground
lel
Still, it's a rather shit weapon.
>>
Just bought the Season Pass on PSN, payment went through but I didn't actually get the season pass, it's still in my basket.

gg From
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>>158115081
40-45
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>>158114978
>>158114905
>Get better armor or you have no HA
>B-But this is better than before

It's objectively not.
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>have 3 characters dlc ready
>dlc is still 55hrs away

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Did the changes to greathammer/weapon art make old demon kings hammer any good?
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>>158115081

45 to tank two handed greatswords.
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>>158111525
delusions, you're probably some neo-souls tard.

I played ds1 and demons back on release on ps3 and got the most hatemail I've ever seen. ds1 was also plauged with forest/kiln spawn campers and just general shitty players.

Meanwhile of all the hours I've spent on PC I've only once gotten hatemail on steam.
The only thing PC is guilty of is having more hackers, which is more a problem on fromsofts end.
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>>158115081
For greatswords you need more poise. I would say 40 would be good for everything you'd want to poise through with it, but something like 30 would let you poise through straightswords and curved swords.
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>>158115083
Tell that to all the fags I see named 'Undead Hero' or 'Ashen One' who always have a seed up because their mule save has the max amount of them

It's so easy and riskless to cheat them in now that everyone I invade either has one up or pops one the second I spawn in.
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>>158115137
I'm glad the DLC isn't released early since I have to work all weekend.
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>>158115196
its WA is shorter, but as a GH nothing changed
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>>158115276
Really? I thought greathammers got improved hyperarmor and movesets this patch? Dang.
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>>158114904
Let's go back to DaS1's matchmaking where it takes ten hours to summon a phantom and half the time it fails.

That's true balance.
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>>158115172
It is objectively a better system than before because before anyone could carry a yhorms greataxe left hand and use whatever weapon and armor they wanted because armor didn't matter.
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>>158115172
Poise resets to 80% every time you attack. It effectively no longer reduces outside of hyperarmor.

Yes, your poise breaks in 2-ish hits. But your opponent has to get those hits in during your attack animation, not before. It is, literally, an improvement. You're whining needing to wear armor before you can tank hits, shut the fuck up.
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>>158115312
that's hammers not GH.
I'm sorry, I wanted GH to be better too
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>>158114382

Anyone?
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>>158115274
It is though
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>>158115312
Someone said GH have faster recovery from swings, that is very likely not the case as nothing was mentioned in the patch note. But they are nerfed in the sense that they are heavy AND you need armor for poise.
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>>158115083
Seeds are stupidly easy to farm off any NPC invader.
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>>158115274

I meant I didn't actually get the season pass, not that the DLC itself wouldn't download.
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>>158115335
>>158115369

And now nobody uses any weapon and needs to minmax their armor just to get Poise levels not broken by a single sword poke.

Literally every person saying this is an Improvement doesn't play a strength build.

All it does is narrow down every single choice to make.

I mean look at the most Optimal poise weapon right now.

The fucking Mace. Why would you ever use an Ultra weapon over the Mace now?
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>>158114990
T W O B O S S E S

2 4 . 9 9
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>>158114720
>The ps4 has more graphics than that
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>>158115335
>It is objectively a better system than before when it was actually viable
lol
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>>158115487
Why would you ever use an ultra weapon to begin with? They have more problems than requiring their user to be in Havel cosplay.
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>the wolf boss drops Valorheart and the thing to access the arena
>no soul
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>>158114382
>>158115402

60 dex scythes, katanas, and spears. I reccomend going 26 str, unless you want greater spellcasting options.

Due to the nature of 2hing at 26 str / 60 dex, most weapons that arent pure STR weapons are still viable, with infusion

Could go a 91dex chaos blade build if you're a madman, with hunter ring + carthus milk for MAX DAMAGE
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DID ANYONE FIGHT A PLAYER GRAVETENDER YET?
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Had some PvP today in the swamp where 2 invaders ganked me. I managed to use up their estus and kill one, but the other went to the ladder. He was half way down and I couldn't reach him with firebombs. What do you do when invaders pull this shit?
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>>158115369
>bbubububut I NEED to have 66 str because it gives me 30 more AR!

>>158115487
I still use greatclub as I did before though?

>>158115530
Still viable now if you have a brain. People have a problem with having to minmax their armor and I get that. Most armor have shit poise for some reason.
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>>158115631
It's not that kind of boss, dude.
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>>158115649
It depends on how far down the ladder they are. If you have enough distance to slide onto them, you'll win the ladder battle. Otherwise, spam rope bombs.
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>>158115252
The average host is not going to have mules. They are going through the game one time and done.

The guys you are thinking of are dedicated gank squads and are very rare.

Besides them having a mule to have .ore seeds than intended balances out with twink invaders having mules for +2 rings and hornet rings.

Seeds are balanced. Don't cry about cheaters, hackers, and mules for you having a bad time.
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>disappointing bosses
>disappointing weapons
>disappointing areas
why
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>>158115706
>slide onto them
What the fuck
That can knock people off?
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>>158115793
Because you're a crybaby that's why
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>>158115671
Literally Graverobber tier.
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>>158115525
It's a very true statement.
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>>158115210
Oh no hatemail your poor virgin eyes

I wish I got hatemail now, no one gives a fuck anymore, everyone is so apathetic because the newer games are so forgiving.
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>>158115620

Isn't 40 the cap for dex? And why do I need str in a dex build?
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>>158115854
You need to take a certain amount of hits to get knocked off a ladder. The slide counts as one hit, after that you'll trade kicks/punches and the person you slid down onto will get knocked off before you do.
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So is the Gravetender still wearing dark mask/chain mail ?
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>>158115210
Steam is the cancer. GFWL had a lot of hatemail
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>>158115448
>>158115430
That's still good because I'm glad none of you will be playing the DLC while I'm stuck at work.

I have all next week off so I get to play through all the DLC before most of ps4 users in this thread.
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>>158115620
91 dex? Tell me more anon.
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>>158115908
because he's a overleveled memer
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>>158115654
>W-Why would you use 66 Str!?
>Just use 40 Str and hit less than the Straight swords you need to invest 45 poise in to hit anyway.

Why use the Great Club. Just use the Mace.
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>>158115487
In DaS1, you needed X amount of poise to not stagger from rapier pokes or straight sword hits, Y amount of poise to not stagger from 2H greatsword R1s, and Z amount to poise through every attack in the game.

The changes with this patch makes DaS3 poise resemble DaS1 and 2 poise more, which is what everyone wanted it to do. Now the only people whining are the ones who can't have their infinite poise with zero investment anymore, just like DaS1 shitters who had to invest in two different stats in DaS2 to wear armor instead of getting it for free alongside stamina investment.

Same shit, different sequel.

>>158115654
>bbubububut I NEED to have 66 str because it gives me 30 more AR!
Not even that much greatclub 66str 2h only gets 54 more AR over greatclub 40str 2h. Not even worth it.
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>>158115649
put on cat ring
slide down so you're a bit above him
jump off and do a lunging attack
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>>158115908
you get like 20 ar more for 20 more stat investment so retards continue to believe that it's worth stat investment kek
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>>158115854
>slide down
>kick
>climb up a few rungs while they're staggered
>repeat

Win ladder warfare every time.
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>>158115443
Seeds take a very long time to drop and a host can only hold 5 at a time.

It's extremely balanced.
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>>158113213
>Can't be Priscilla's daughter
We all know what the chosen undead did with Priscilla
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>>158116020
No, the people are whining are those who think their Strength Build shouldn't demand over 45 poise to cover it's massive glaring weaknesses.

Das1 and DaS2 ultra weapons had alot more damage compared to 1 handed weapons than they do this time around, where the difference between a Carthus curved sword and the Fume Knight Greatsword is like 80 AR but like 100% attack speed.
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>>158116010
No great club with 40 strength 2H is going to do less damage than a straight sword. Don't waste your time on hyperbole.
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>>158116171
Why would you ever need to hold more than one seed?
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>>158116010
>40 str
I have 56 str and still have 600 AR+warcry. I also have 35 poise and everything that I should be trading with still works.
Also great club has very good R2s and I don't have to use only the great club. Keep crying about having to think about your build.
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>>158115961
>>158116135
Ahh.
Wish you'd told me that sooner, /dsg/.
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>trying forest pvp in das1
>every fuckface I meet is a havel-wearing family mask fuckface fishing for backstabs

Wow, so this is pvp....
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next DLC will be in ash lake and underwater
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Any good dex weapons in the DLC other than crow quills?
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>>158116317
friede's scythe
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>>158116212
Refined Carthus Curved Sword 40str/40dex two handed has 122 less AR than Heavy Great Club 40str two handed. For 30 extra levels investment.

Great hammers are still too slow to be useful IMO, but let's not be hyperbolic here. Strength weapons are very stat efficient.
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>>158116428
Right.

And how much faster is the Carthus Curved sword compared to the Heavy Great Club?

It does more damage.
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>>158116312
It's deep, dude.

[weeb music, mom shouting in the background and cuts to backstabs intensifies]
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>>158116428
don't forget that those are just base AR difference and the most useful part of great club moveset is charged attack which gives additional damage multiplier
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>>158115908
weapons with B or greater in dex will still scale well up to 60

26 str, when two-handing, treats you as having 39 str, which for anything with even D or C str scaling will add decent AR for the relatively low stat investment. Its just damage optimization.

>>158115982
Chaos blade at 99 dex (w/ rings) and 16 str reaches an AR of 492, which I believe is the most of any katana. Others can exceed it with buffs but buff AR still probably wont do as much damage, on account of chaos blade being all physical

You'll have to sacrifice a lot of stats in other areas but if you've got the balls its cool. The difference between 60 dex and 99 dex is 46 AR
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>>158116427
Post the parts of the moveset that are actually useful.
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>>158116427

But scythes are shit.
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>>158116312
Why aren't you a havel-wearing family mask fuckface?
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anyone got that morne's greathammer boss pic from fextra?
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>>158116485
Anon, we're talking about a superarmor system. The whole purpose of superarmor is to shit on combos. It doesn't matter how much damage a weapon can do in two hits when that second hit gets splatted.

Which is why the real problem with great hammers is their attack speed, not poise. Great hammers are so slow that curved swords can hit twice and move out of the way.
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>>158116427
it's actually garbage compared to Pontiff scythe and Corvian GS
>awful slow as shit 2h R1s with a tiny hitbox
>WA has no tracking
>damage is pretty meager
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Anyone have the IDs for the DLC stuff?
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>>158116427
Nice
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>>158114331
I'm fighting CSS and some katanas though. Against heavy weapons I just WA through them and hit R1.
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>>158116681
Check the last couple of threads.
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>>158116312

PS3? I want to fight them but I usually play on PC...
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>invade guy
>he gets mad and turns on invulnerability, has DLC weapons on PC
>stay there, spend 5 minutes backing away and pointing down until he finally gets fed up and does some other hack that insta-kill me

lol what a pathetic cuck
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>>158116638
You talking about the one where some redditor edited in a le epic troll joke to screenshot for his hilarious thread?
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>>158116670
>an enormous scythe with all-horizontal rollcatching moveset and twice the range of all other scythes is shit as stated by literally who on anonymous image board who most likely hasn't even tried to use it yet
okay anon
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>>158114990
To be fair ToH may aswell have had two bosses since Laurence is a shameless reskin with bloated HP, and Living Failures and Maria are joke fights
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>>158116664
>Carthus hits you in three hits by the time you drop your hammer blow
>Knocks you out of poise anyway
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>>158116681
http://pastebin.com/wpFCaPK0
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>>158116758
This is why you don't play Souls games on PC.
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>>158116712
You mean CCS!

I think katanas have higher poise damage because they broke my curved gs poise with running attacks when I had 20 poise but that's strange. I don't have enough info I'm sorry anon.
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>>158116775
you bet
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>>158116814
As I said,

>Which is why the real problem with great hammers is their attack speed, not poise

This has always been true even when hyperarmor was functionally infinite three days ago. The changes to poise didn't do this, great hammers are just bad because great hammers are bad. Hell, I fought a Havel cosplayer three weeks ago, blocked his first R1, used the Dragonslayer GA's WA to poise through his second R1 and instakill him. That's how slow they are.
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>>158116736
>>158116854
Thanks.
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>>158116809
>maria
>joke fight
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>>158116932
Alright, just checking.
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Is the ost for Friede up yet

Holy shit its good
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Will you get banned for using the DLC stuff on PC?
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>>158113907
had fun doing it 2bh
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>>158116809
>To be fair ToH may aswell have had two bosses since Laurence is a shameless reskin with bloated HP, and Living Failures and Maria are joke fights
Laurence had a second phase added, living failures is aptly named and Maria was pretty gud.
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>>158116861

In all seriousness I've watched some of Jund recently and he just blatantly uses CE all the time, on stream. Recommends other people do too, says you only get banned if you mess up your stats or the stats of a weapon, everything else is fair game pretty much. He originally got it to check to see if other people he fought had hacked stats but it's progressed significantly since then, like playing a pyro build with infinite ashen estus or giving yourself as many of any item you want.

Think I might just get it myself. Like fighting fire with fire. Literally just want to use it to deal with hackers, I've heard if you get invaded by a hacker you can turn him into a phantom and BSC him away too which is interesting.
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>>158117153
>tfw forgot to color other hand

oh well
With how the weapons are looking, I'm actually a little excited to play Ariandel.
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>>158116281
>tuturoo
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>>158117105
Poiseless enemies are a joke in BB. She's stunlockable as fuck, not even like Orphan where you have to go out of your way to BS chain him, it's hard to not stunlock Maria
>>
anyone got the DLC items IDs?
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>poise is bad now
>str is bad now
Hahahahah ignorant fools. Witness my true power.
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>she can recognize you as the Lord of Londor
Nice.
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>>158116854
Could I ask what the weight of the Millwood set is?
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>>158117135
I don't think we can until release unless someone manages to grab it on PC.
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>>158117262
>when the CE meta returns
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>>158117105
>easily stunlocked
>easily parried
>too passive, literally spends half the fight slow walking towards you giving you enough room to backdash and heal

>>158117174
>Laurence had a second phase
And its moveset was terrible, worse than the Cleric beast
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>>158117153
>no feet
You're pretty good.
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>>158117367
>people complaining about not being able to hyper armor with big weapons wearing rags

eheheheheheheheheehe
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>>158116791
I used it last night in the FC and it was shit
I swapped out to pontiff scythe and raped face so don't talk to me about not knowing how to use reapers you uppity shit
>>
Where the fuck do you go in Ariandel?

I've gotten to the crypt full of flies, what now?
Talked to the painter upstairs
Talked to "leave pls" girl

Still haven't fought a boss
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>>158117174
Laurence's first phase had like six or seven new moves and mixups as well. Living Failures are also a more dynamic multiboss than any in DaS3.
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>>158117556
>just got staggered by a greatsword with my 35 poise build

OH NO
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>>158117416
Helm 7.1
Armor 16.4
Gauntlets 5.5
Leggings 10.2
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>>158117556
>heavy weapon builds now have to spend 30+ points in VIT to do what they were able to do by default pre patch, all while fast light weapons are untouched
hohohhohoho
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>30 poise
>Hollowslayer
>Spamming R1s is enough to kill SS/katana/curved sword users
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>>158117609
Activate that mechanism in the fly basement.
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>>158113371
That is an excellent waifu
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>>158117609
turn the valve in the crypt
that will open the path in the pls leave girl to the boss
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>>158117602
>it's an FC faggot
Oh, this explains everything.
Begone.
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>>158117703
Anon poise before patch was too much. You don't really need to poise through great axes do you? Meanwhile now you can reliably poise through every small weapon with heavier weapons. Like >>158117709
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>>158117694
>>158117703

>not just going bellow <100% equip load

rolling in armor is bad for your back guys
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>>158117709
Just like before the patch.
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>>158117653
No, Living Failures are the same Celestial Emissary with modified spells x4 and some tweaks to the AI that occasionally come together for a super-move while Deacons was like playing an RTS where you have healers. tankers and disposable grunts guarding their super-weapon.
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>>158117602
>scythe
>rape face

Pick one.
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>>158117778
not an FC faggot
THE FC FAGGOT
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>>158117858
this time around they can't stun you out of HA ever
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>>158117798
>Hollowslayer
>"heavier weapons"
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>>158117858
Now poise resets every swing.
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>>158117726
>>158117757
Oh fuck...

I went through the hidden door, and found the new pyromancy flame, and the place where pricilla would be in ariamis.
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>>158117694
>he wears such a low amount of poise
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is the BKS the best great sword now? It's got perseverance.
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>>158117694
HOLY SHIT I JUST POISED THROUGH A GREATAXE WITH THE SAME BUILD? Was 1h though.

Guy changed from a greatsword that was staggering me to a greataxe and I killed him.

>>158117918
It has low poise hp and already works well against light weapons.
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>>158117980
I went to jump down and my game crashed.


The fuck?
>>
>>158117980
good, kill the pyrofucker and grab his shit
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>>158118013
doesn't it also give extra poise damage?
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>>158117971
do you still get stunned into the two hit combo or is that gone now?
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Rate my SL125 pontiff invasion build.

>tfw 900+ damage hornet shieldpoke backstabs

Pretty sure this is the only way to do pure spear invasions, went with swordspear because of the moveset and having the highest physical damage (even more than lothric long spear) for high BS potential. WA is great too, 1H R2 is a horizontal slash which is great for rollcatching people who panic roll after getting BS'd.

This seriously has gotta be my favorite invasion build. BK Shield is great but you NEED havels to deal with ganking shitters, or at least to get away from them. The shield is also essential for allowing you to run at parry spammers and backstab punish them over and over.
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>>158117980
Go embered there to fight an NPC.
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>>158117709
>hollowslayer
>poise resets every time you press r1

jesus
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>>158117153
Painter girl needs more lewds.
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who /minmaxingarmor/ here
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>>158118115
if you get hit in the same frame as your poise was active you don't get hit by two hit combo even if it breaks. most of the time at least. but other than that two hit combos are still a thing.
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>>158118159
I'll remember to do some when I practice anatomy. I'll make one especially for you bb
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>>158118187
i can finally use glorious dark souls 1 fashion again
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>>158118309
Can't wait.
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>>158118115
That will happen if you aren't attacking but you'll always win trades because you can 2-hit them.
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>>158118187
ME! ME!

It's fun.
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>>158118123
if ur gud you can still do just DSSS or DSS, without shields.

Have to be good at your footwork, though.
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>>158117153
>didn't give her dragon eyes
>>158112627
>>
newbie here

are there any stats like ADP from ds2 that are absolutely essential despite not giving you any clue what they do?
>>
So are scythes good now that they changed their weapon art or what?
>>
Anyone want to come do Anor Londo with me and Aldrich cuck of the deep? would do it alone but the place spooks the shit out of me.
>>
>>158118187
What's the poise minmax fashion in 3 anyway?
>>
>>158118621
probably a mix of havel's and armor of favor
>>
>>158118526

Nope. Same as dark souls 1.
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>>158118568
I'm on PC btw.
>>
help me understand

>have 50 poise (full havel)
>using a greatsword 2 handed
>hyper through a ugs no problem
>cant hyper through a hammer
>randomly get staggered against a css

what am i doing wrong here

is it just random?
>>
>>158118526
No.
If you know what the stat does, you should know when to level it up, if you don't understand it, don't touch it
>>
What's a good name for a meta shitter build?
>>
>>158118774
MetaShitter
>>
>>158118759
Hammers have high poise damage. CCS is so fast it hits you when you're not in ha frame?

I just poised through yhorms great axe one handed and I can't poise through greatswords two handed.
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>>158118728
pass and bonfire
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>>158118774
e-sport athlete
>>
Thank you to mugenmonkey and its armor optimizer for this atrocity of fashion.
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>>158118961
Anor Londo and pass is: " helpme "
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>>158118759
>Hammers actually doing their job

Good. They are anti-armor basically.

Now my backup mace can actually do its job when my longsword can't.
>>
What kind of look would go best with crow quills?
an edgy assassin-y look?
>>
Sooo.... how much poise should I get for greatswords?
>>
>>158118759
hammers are dedicated "fuck your HA and fuck you" weapons now
they also dominate trading against majority of light weapons
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>>158118774
Streamer
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>>158119160
50
>>
>>158118491

You really can't. I literally main spears as they're my favorite weapon class and everyone and their mother will immediately unzip the parry tool and parry fish forever. This is much worse in invasion situations where they can take a few hits and then chug if they need to, the host especially.

You can basically run at them with your guard up and if they try to parry expecting a running R1, you just keep going until you're behind them and backstab punish for usually around 900+ damage depending on what armor they're wearing. I think I got like 850 against someone wearing full onionbro armor recently.

You really want a havel's when doing invasions. I mean in duels sure I can just 2H a GF Spear and beat pretty much anyone, but we're talking invasions here with ganks and chugging.

With this I can even take on 2 people, 3 people I've gotta run away until backup arrives but the shield and the ability to backstab helps a lot in getting away and surviving.
>>
>>158117405
So she is firstly an npc?
>>
>>158119186
What counters hammers? I've been using spears and whips to abuse their lack of range and it works nicely
>>
>>158119098
anything that has strike dmg should be anti-armor anyway
>>
>>158119227
i guess i'm just better than you
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>>158119259
anything that has range, yes
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>>158117709

Is 30 poise the magic number? Is there any difference for GS's or Warpick or whatever between 30, 40, 50 poise?

Like do we legit know the numbers now or what? Also is hollowslayer the best GS or what about claymore, BK sword, etc?
>>
>>158119346
30 poise is shit.

Need over 40
>>
>>158119160
Kek. I wonder if memehackzor knows how much 'tough love' his player base harbors for him
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>>158119259
>to abuse their lack of range
Yes.
I found the easiest way to off people that rely on passive HA is simply outrange them by either using a literal range option or use the bare tip of a long weapon. Worked for me against pre-patch glaive and has yet to fail me, shields may be a hard counter but they better come with high stability+end.
>>
I just got back into Souls after a ~5 month hiatus playing mostly WWE games and holy fuck I suck. It took me like 7 tries to kill Iudex with an assassin.

/end blog
>>
>>158119306
Yes, but weakened strike defence on heavy armor wasn't significant enough. Now the hammers has additional properties that can be used against heavy armor.
>>
>>158119501
fuck off you pc scum and bamco doesn't deserve his works
>>
>>158119525
>shields may be a hard counter
i will just swap to warpick
>>
>>158119525
>simply outrange them by either using a literal range option or use the bare tip of a long weapon

This. Halberd users get wrecked by my offhand crossbow.
>>
>>158119312

Nah ur bad, kid.
>>
when should I stop using prisoner's chain?
>>
>>158119657
>opponent using a mace
>I swap to gfs +crossbow
>he pulls a shield + WP
>I pull my own shield with an estoc
>he gets his carthus out
>now I use a mace myself
>>
>>158119754
once it's less than a 10% increase or so
>>
>>158119754
Around 70-80 or NG+.
>>
>>158119594
memehack pls go
>>
Hey, DLC bros

Is there any relation between the farron followers and the farron watchdogs?

Is there any relation to the wolf boss and the old wolf of farron?
>>
>>158119754
never
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I didn't even play long to experience the cancer and I'm already off to work before I get the chance. RIP newborn cancer.
>>
been pvping for days
always lose because host ends up using estus while I don't

how the fuck do I get over this mental block that prevents me from using this shitty fucking OP estus
I miss das 1 healing
fuck
>>
>>158118526
adp wasn't essential if you played a turtle
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>>158109326
He's not wrong
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>>158119776
this game Pvp is a joke
>>
just purchased the season pass

ds3 still won't download the new patch

what am I doing wrong?
>>
That new scythe isn't even that shitty desu, the WA should just not be used too much
>>
So are ultras better or worse now?
>>
>>158120037
>Ignorant players using all those body buffs in pvp
>tryhards
>>
>>158119987
>Modification of the bug that endurance value damage of magic "injection of acid" exceeds the set value
what the fuck am I reading
>>
>>158120142
better when stacking poise
hyper armor seems worse than before if you use no pise
>>
>>158120214
Surge is stronger than it should be
>>
>>158120232
Did they extend HA frames on UGS, Greataxes, etc?
>>
>>158120056
Because you have things that counter other things?
>>
>>158120078
Nothing. Early release was a mistake, microsoft corrected it this morning.
>>
>>158120274
yes, (with poise) hyper armor on ultras seems more lenient, getting hit early in the animation is less likely to stun you
>>
>>158120214
Acid Surge's getting nerfed because it's not suppose to be that strong. Which is understandable since a gank squad can rape your equipment if they stack 3 clouds on you.
>>
What are the best weapons to make deep/fire/raw? Is there any point in using them or do you find that refined is stronger in most cases?
>>
>>158120274
I think people don't know yet, but it won't break as long as you have the poise necessary to withstand the attack because it's not about an invisible poise health bar.
>>
>>
>started doing PVP (never done it before)
>doing invasions
>die
>don't lose ember

literally what is the risk? they should make you hollow if you die whilst invading
>>
>>158120383
no, it's just that it resets every attack
>>
>>158120451
from would hire you
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>>158120232
>better when completely going full DS11 tier stacking poise
>worse than before on any reasonable amount of poise
ftfy
>>
>>158120298
kinda,
so much similar weapons to use that in the end it becomes a rock-paper-scissors game
>>
>>158120451
You lose your souls if you invade and die as anything except Watchdogs/Faithful. So you gotta go grab 'em. The risk to invading is losing because it's usually 2-4v1.
>>
I will trade anything for vertebra shackles, name your price.
SL 75 PC
>>
>>158120431

Oh my
>>
>>158120562
>invade with no souls
>risk gone
>>
How much attunement should I build on a class that doesn't use magic but just commonly using weapon arts. And which weapon arts are great for PvE?
>>
>>158120451
You lose souls, wastes your time finding the host and may suffer butthurt. The main problem is in most situations if you're not running cancer, you normally invade a world with it.
>>
>>158120605
there's never been tangible loss from invasions in souls

do you also think you should lose your ember if you die as a co-op phantom?
>>
>>158120543
yeah but it isn't a 100 hp bar that keeps decreasing until it breaks in the middle of an attack.
>>
>>158120031
>not pressing the "literally become invincible" button on your controller
dodging is way more fun than blocking anyways
plus shields in pvp a shit
>>
>>158120579

You can't drop upgrade materials or covenant rewards. How the fuck do people who post here of all places still not know this.

Also shackles are one of the easiest rewards to farm. Go earn them
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMp-l01HW3Y


LIMIT BREAKERS ON ACID SURGE
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>>158120562
who gives a fuck about dropping bloodstain when invading since you get so little souls from killing phantoms anyway
>>
>>158120647
>And which weapon arts are great for PvE?
war cry
it now lasts 30 seconds too
>>
>>158120660
well in ds2 there was the tangible loss of having to grind for more cracked orb drops if you wanted to play a low-soul-memory agape character
>>
>>158120660
I think whites and faithfuls/dogs should lose their bloodstain too, it'd actually be pretty funny.
>>
>>158113249
They can hear you.
>>
>>158120317
thanks
>>
>>158113513
Most fun? Probably the Scythe. But making a build for that, you could also do a Dex build w/int for requs and hit up the Crow weapons too, which seem super fun from what I've tested.
>>
>>158120579

>not knowing they can't be traded
>wanting to trade non-auto summon covenant items to begin with

remove yourself from this world
>>
>>158120795
war car and war cry only? lol
>>
>>158120823
I guess that's true

that's because there wasn't a full eye orb though

>>158120875
>host can't constantly resummon the same phantoms because they need to pick up their bloodstain
sign me up.
>>
>>158112828
>Someone got to touch the fluffy tail
>Priscilla still rejected us
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>158121005
>>158121005
>>158121005

D-did I do a good job?
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>>158121171
sorry anon you did but >>158120954
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>>158120954
O-ok
>>
>>158120976
>host can't constantly resummon the same phantoms because they need to pick up their bloodstain
Funny, that's exactly what I thought, most gankers acutally care about their souls and them getting salty would be great
>>
>>158120719
>>158120959
Made me check this, they can be dropped you faggots.
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>>158121321
You can "drop" but they cannot be seen by the other player
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>>158112330
Honestly, I don't find this to be morally wrong if you invade into someone with two phantoms doing the work for them. You give them a challenge that's greater than what they've encountered and will encounter.
>>
Wait a minute. Acid surge is getting nerfed?

LOL

gg From. I enjoyed the fun while it lasted.
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