/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

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>>157940748
I will post bote until toady adds bote and we can have real fishing in the game

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>>157941279
RIP bote

>>157941279
>not "reel" fishing

>>157942356
DELET

>>157941279
FISHING SHARKS, AND SEA MONSTERS, I AM WITH YOU BOTEANON

FPS death fixed yet or toady still treating it like an after school project?

I can't believe people actually donate money to him.

So is that bug where things born in your fortress never actually grow while growing up fixed yet?

>>157942679
Why should i care about some abstract "new players" and assume what they want and how they ?
I care about myself and my convenience. I enjoyed getting into the game as it is now.

And you know, there is no limit to human stupidity, i've seen people ask dumbest questions about simple and basic things in very "newb-friendly" games.

> and it certainly didn't grow even half as much as it should have.
Who the hell are you to decide how much it "should" grow?

>>157943283
Yeah it fixed but you gotta contribute at least $100 to get the FPS fix patch, chop chop!

>>157943512
nah, rather just play rimworld. It will have far more features that actually work. Sure DF has dark fortresses and kings and stuff, but you will never experience it because 2-3 fps is unplayable.

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>>157943996
>All craftstrollship is of the highest quality.

>>157943996
Well, I will, but I don't deal with 2~3 FPS since adventure mode performance is much better than you would think, even in 10k pop towns/fortresses/etc.

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>>157941279
>I will post bote until toady adds bote and we can have real fishing in the game
What's your age and what's the average life expectancy in your country?

>>157941279
first post best post
bote-anon-kun, my birthday was the last week, could you draw a boat for me? If you do I'll print it, frame it, and hang it in my room

Its good that illumination will be handled eventually. This could also be a way to expand on temperature and flammability. I would like to make boiling oil traps or combustible items and then be able to ignite the area.

Also, Spreading fire or unsafe behaviors around fire should become one of the biggest threats to a fortress. Much like they were in medieval times. Could you imagine a dwarven sprinkler system set in an above floor and able to do controlled or compartmentalized flooding in case of fire

>>157943446
Exactly. Quality vs quantity is always a good rule, and when talking about people in forums, its doubled
>>157943283
2,5/10 bait desu senpai
>>157943046
>>157941279
ENSLAVE THE DEEP BLUE OR DIE IN IT
>>157946580
I was the anon that you were spoking to before
Yeah, I have felt for some time that, in all its precise detail, all materials lack any chemical property such us flamability, acidity, and many more I can't list without looking at a text book
Man, only for having fire and more temperature-oriented stuff, you'll have to add burning energy outputs for each material(Wood liberates less energy than coal, for example)
The main two reasons I want realistic fire anyway are for burning people/fortresses down

>>157946580
>Spreading fire or unsafe behaviors around fire should become one of the biggest threats to a fortress
Maybe if you're doing wooden aboveground fortresses. Stone forts, which is probably most forts, shouldn't be at any particular risk to death by fire. Losing a booze stockpile or a cloth stockpile maybe, if someone were juggling torches near your silk farm or something like that. Outside of beds, though, most of the structure and furniture of a stone fort isn't flammable.

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>>157946431
I've lost my tablet
>>157945413
Longer than toadys who eats only hamburgers and never drink water :^)

>>157947532
Fucking amazing, thanks dude
I love as it is, but could you add a little more detail, like a fishing rode from the boat, and some spoopy sea creatures? It doesn't matter if you don't do it great

>>157947807
There are fishing rods and anything you want there anon, it's just that the bote is far awayJust like the release dates

>>157947881
Fair enough, thank you anyway

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>>157948158
>>157947881
Well that was kinda sad.

>>157947153
>what is smoke inhalation

>>157950750
Sounds like some sort of media conspiracy to me.

>>157950750
woah, hadn't thought of that
You could burn straw at the end of your fortress, close it, and everybody up to the lower levels would die

cutebolds

>>157950750
Not something that's going to be a significant threat to a fort. Somewhere between the threat level of goblin snatcher and a flock of keas.

>>157954276
It would definately cause an unhappy thought. And n number of ticks spent in a smoky tile would cause unconciousness and asphyxiation shortly after. Can't be argued

Does someone have that comic where a dorf is told he can't drink while doing a job and he asks for a different job?

>>157943446
>Who the hell are you to decide how much it "should" grow?

A player? What kind of retarded question is that?

>>157941279
If you keep spamming this you're gonna have your boatmurdered

>>157957025
*botemurdered

>>157949084
nah man, gonna hang the drawing anyway, its ok

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Tell me /dfg/
What kind of un-planned feature by Toady would you want added to the game?
Something only you have thought about

>>157959119
>Something only you have thought about
I can't answer that as I don't pretend to be a unique snowflake.

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>>157959713
Just answer the question princess.

>>157959119
I've suggested some in the general:

>have some animal people form entities which become affiliated to elven civs
>improved climbing mechanics and making walking up hills more challenging, in order to make mountaineering more fun


One I haven't mentioned is the following
>make all map tiles init-definable
Or better yet:
>make every single tile in the game init-definable
This would make tileset making much more rewarding, and totally eliminate the need for shit like TWBT.

>>157960252
Silly anon, I have already screencaped all of those ideas. I was actually two of the people You talked to
Im talking about Ideas you have never thought about

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>>157960480
If we've never thought about them how can we tell you about them?

>>157960809
>If we've never thought about them how can we tell you about them?
until now anon

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>>157960480
>Im talking about Ideas you have never thought about
Anon, are you okay?

>>157960252
Full graphic support is a planned feature, and will probably be done through text files the way creature graphics already are.

>>157962363
>Full graphic support is a planned feature
source pls

>>157943996
>rimworld
lmao i hope this is bait. Even Gnomoria is better

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>>157959119
>europa universalis
>hard

>>157943996
Is Rimshit 3d yet?

>>157963450
No and it will never be according to the dev. If you want to talk about meme games, do it in the proper general.

ded gaem

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>>157963934
go way

>>157959894
What is your glare1 anon?

Can you glare1 at me pls

>>157963934
as long as people keep donating to Toady this game will never die

>>157964427
just joking no ded no ded

>>157963152
That chart looks old, it's probably referencing EU3

>>157964481
What about when Toady dies?

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>>157964478
That was glare1, until I wanted to post it again in the same thread. I renamed it glare2 and never bothered to change it back.

If it's any consolation, have the real glare2.

>>157964764
then the code gets released and the game goes open-source

>>157964764
The it goes open source, gets split into many different projects because no one can agree on what direction it should go in, and slowly fades away as those projects die one by one.

how hard would a fortress with no farming be?

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>>157964834
Thanks anon

>>157964840
>>157964970
Is there a source on this? He's always kinda stepped around what happens when he dies

>>157964834
I still remember back in high school when i waited for months for the translation of that anime to continue. When it finally did, I had already lost interest in it.

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>>157943362
Quite a while ago

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I <3 you guys :D

>>157965441
Why did the fucker put the plump helmet back into the hat after it almost killed him the first time?

Is this some ebin Slav sense of humour? I mean, I like Likot and all, but FUCK do the russians make him do weird things.

>>157965026
You could use turkeys or other egg-layers for the majority of your food production, supplement that with some livestock or puppy-mills, throw in some hunting and fishing and you'll have plenty of food.

Booze production would be more difficult but you could get by with buying all the booze you can from caravans and brewing any plants / fruits you gather.

You should be able to buy plenty of cloth off the caravans and, along with a meat/leather industry and gathering spiderwebs for silk, keep your dwarves properly clothed.

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Now in tec color.

>>157965167
I watched like 6 episodes of it nearly a year ago and never got back to it.

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>>157965936
I try my absolute best to theme my forts on romanesque or gothic builds.

how long till the caravan goes away?

>>157966460
I enjoy your work, do you have a blog or an archive or anything?

>>157966460
I love the authentic mediterranean look on the plaster. The spot where it's flaking off is a nice touch.

Related: my captcha turned up a pic of a romanesque church. Google is DEFINITLY reading our posts.

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>>157966751
Thank you! though forgive me I do not have a place I post constantly, I did have a page, but I forgot about its existence for the last year or so. I am planning on doing something when I am better at art.

>>157967581
Thank you! that is what I had in mind!

>>157966693
it went away.

NIGGAS IN PARIS

What's one df feature you haven't used much, if at all?

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I want to identify as a dwarf fortress player. Which df t shirt design should I get? Im leaning towards pic related

>>157971536
bote

>>157971210
Minecarts. I haven't played Adventure mode in a couple of years either, lots of new features there that I haven't messed with.

>>157971536
Hello my name is Urist

>>157971536
>>157972273
or some kind of weird rock thats actually common in the game.

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>>157971536
This or the icon alone.

>>157972437
thats pretty shitty design

>>157971536
i always wanted a cool assci design of maybe some kind of "map" that people who dont know about the game can find it interesting and the autismo lads get it and recognize it.

>>157972273
>>157972376
I was also considering a wall of text like a dwarfs thoughts and preferences where every body part is bruised or mangled beyond recognition

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>>157971536
You have two choices. Either this or

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>>157971536
>>157972849
...or this. This is actually decent at hiding your powerlevel.

Anything more is just plain old faggotry.

>>157972849
this is autismo
>>157973013
this is not so easy to recognize out of context and can be confused with a purple dildo pixelated.

>>157973013
Looks like a purple buttplug.

>>157972810
that actually sounds interesting, could you show me how would it look?

>>157973210
If you don't immediately recognize a plump helmet anywhere you're a faggot.

>already talking about purple dildos
Yeah, you're a faggot.

>>157973328
Yeah let me get home to my desktop in a few mins. Ill show you my idea

>>157973331
you know what? i actually thought of an idea of how it owuld look good or at least to me. That oversized picture of the hemp plumpet looks like shit, but like farm patchs with grown plumpets woudl look really cool in a black shirt. and a dwarf in the farm. but small sized like the actual thing.

>>157968928
>I am planning on doing something when I am better at art
You should do something now! I've seen your work on here for a while, and I think you're improving consistently :)

>>157973331
If you wear a shirt with a big purple plump helmet on it then everyone who doesn't play DF (99.99999% of people you'll come in contact with) will think you're wearing a shirt with a purple dildo / buttplug.

>>157971536
"Microcline is my favourite mineral"

>>157973864
this
>>157973858
and this is true, really stop being autistic, we know what it is but show that fucking oversized plump and everyone its gonna see a sextoy

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>>157973858
Yes, and? Why should you care about those faggots?

>>157974043
confirmed fedoraman

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>>157974191
Are you saying you are some kind of normie trying to infiltrate our comfy general?

>>157974043
Because I have a job and bills to pay and shit like that requires me to not be a social outcast. I also like having sex with real women occasionally.

>>157974458
Yes, what are you gonna do about it?

>>157974458
yes im a normie but that doesnt change the comfy status in here.

how's it even possible to make a "glass throne"? wouldnt that break inmediatly as the dorf sits on it and rip his ass?

>>157974881
Does your toilet break as soon as you sit on it?

>>157974929
that's not glass it's ceramic. Are you mentally challenged?

>>157974978
Glass isnt ceramic?

>>157974978
same premise

>>157974929
You have a glass toilet?

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>>157973826
Thanks!
I should throw something together sometime, I guess.

>>157975061
...? porcelain is more tough than fucking glass.
>>157975060
do you have a glass toilet? send a picture

>>157975243
>porcelin is more tough than fucking glass

glass is pretty fucking tough, especially at the thicknesses used in toilets

Now I'd really like to see a glass toilet made with 14th century glassblowing technology.

>>157966460
>>157965936
>>157968928
>>157975143
I had been wondering why I hadn't seen much of you lately.

>>157974881
Just make it thick enough. I'm thinking of something which is maybe two or three inches thick at its thinnest.

>>157975243
>>157975063
Yeah, I too think that a glass toilet could actually be kind of interesting, though keeping it clean enough to remain interesting would be problematic.

Anyone having problem uploading images? Some specific images get stuck while loading.

>>157974881
Considering the level of technology dem dorfs have, it should be impossible.

But dorves find a way.

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>>157975773
>two or three inches thick at its thinnest.

Nah, 1" thick for the seat and back would be more than enough. Maybe 2"-3" for the legs.

>>157976118
is that even comfy?

>>157975985
Just pour a bunch of molten glass into a big, blocky mold. I definitely wouldn't want to sit in something like >>157976118 but I don't think it would be a problem to use or make something that looks from a distance like someone's preparing to make an ice sculpture.

>>157976603
Tempering is important if you're going to be sitting your ass and balls on it.

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>>157973328
Okay, I spent minimal effort on this. But the real deal would be a wall of random injuries, both minor and life-threatening. Near the bottom of the shirt, the text would start to fade to black, giving the impression that the list of injuries goes on and on.

pls no profit off my idea.

>>157977585
too late nigguh im already sellin dem shirts.
but seriously it can be a fun one, maybe with those weird moods texts

>>157959119
>MOBAs
>hard
>EU
>hard
>UFO Defense
>balanced
Is this a troll?

I want an animated video of dwarfs on the mine mining and dancing to Do it again - the chemical brothers.

>>157981571
Hard fun, anon, hard fun. That means it's hard to have fun with it, you have to work for the fun. That's definitely true for assfaggots.

ded

Are the material values for wool the same as the material values for hair in material_template_default?
The wiki is remarkably unhelpful in my efforts to determine whether various wool clothes or various pig tail/rope reed clothes would be more protective. I know it's a marginal benefit either way, but I don't have a lot of better options right now and I need to make a bunch of new clothes for my dwarves anyway, so I might as well take the option which is slightly better.

>>157981887
What about Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger?

>>157988075
could do the trick too, is just that for some reason i just pictured so hilariously with do it again.

>>157982290
The only hard part of assfaggots is trying to keep yourself from getting salty about your teammates.

>>157989587
you're not contradicting what I said

>>157968783
If that picture is supposed to be about Dwarf Fortress it really should have something going on underground.

>>157992430
>he lives in the soil layers

>>157973858
>spade symbol
>dildo / buttplug
Sigmund go to bed

>>157992823
Soil layers are good for growing underground crops. There also could have been a cistern connected to that stream. But instead it's all just featureless brown, not even any stratification. The artist could have drawn the top 1/8th or so of a hallway or something at the bottom of the picture to indicate that there's more of the fortress underground that isn't being shown. Or just thrown a few gems or something in there, just SOMETHING to show that there's stuff of interest underground.

>play elf adventurer
>super elven strength
>expert swordself
>>>>>shaped alder sword
>worse at killing people than biting them as a novice
Help

>>157996657
if you're dumb enough to try elf then there is no helping you

>>157959119
>MOO and Civ not fun

>>157997568
I had hoped to bring them back from the brink of extinction, by making one that was worthwhile.
It's
Been an effort.

>>157944778
Please upgrade from Intel atom netbook
I'm running 50 stable fps in a fort with over 200 inhabitants

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>>157997568
>le elf hate meme
haha eppikk mann

let me screencap this shit haha

>>157998414
rude

even my atom netbook gets way more than 2-3 fps

>>157998508
Prove me wrong.

>>157998414
>t. guy who never build anything interesting
how many stone do you have? don't talk back unless it's more than 10 000.

>>157998808
>collecting tons of unutilized junk
You're a stupid and sad person.

Atomcrash excess stone if your megaproject involves mostly excavating. If you have a megaproject that involves both building and excavating, synchronize them so you don't have huge stacks of excess at any point. And use quantum dumps if necessary, they pretty much nullify the detrimental effect huge itemcounts have on FPS.

>>157998808
>don't talk back unless it's more than 10 000
I like this meme, I hope it catches on.

>>157975143
>>157968928
>>157966460
>>157965936
Why are they all dressed so feminine?

Begone, Page 10

I was horrified by seeing a stray mule die.

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MATERIALS MOD ANON WHERE

>>158002881
>dix off for harambe

>>157999736
Open some history books my young whippersnapper. Tunics and tights were common dress.

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What is a Dwarf?

>>158004965
A miserable pile of secrets.

>>158004965
>>158005424
A short creature fond of drink and industry.

Anyone else having stability issues? I've had two corrupted savefiles in .43.05.

>>158006581
meybe its because ur gay

>>158006581
I also had stability issues with DF x64. No save corruption but occasional crashes.

It apparently took one werebeast to destroy my fortress of 8 master craftsmen and 50 militia meat shields armed with wood.

It was like a zombie plague except it turned dwarves into werezebras

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>>158008909
Hey bote-anon, how about posting a few more historical boats? Like, various stages of boat development across various cultures.

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>>158009091
>meat shields armed with wood
Well, what did you expect?

>>158009461
For the Emperor! It is the sacred duty of all migrants to die for the original crew, except those who are useful enough to be accepted into the elite

>>158009857
Look how well that turned out for you.

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boompa loompa

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ded game
ded general
ded community

>>158014003
any cool cemetary designs?

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>>158015087
this wasn't really a cemetary, but a tomb for a noble

I built it back in the early 0.42 versions. it would be a lot cooler now that I could just commission a batch of statues of soldiers

>>158009385
4chins is bugging out on me and I can't post png or some random images because nukemoot hates me

>>158015584
nice
anyone know what to do with a leopard? is it agressive, or will it just fuck off?
I just began this embark so I only have 5 dorfs, none of them trained in warfare

>>158002881
New shitposter?
Bote-anon, you have a competitor

>>158017893
Pretty sure leapords are stealth predators. My experience is: They will only attack solo dwarves after stalking them for quite some time. And they will usually run scared if you ruin their ambush setup

>>158018007
Is realistic properties for all materials too much to ask?

he deserted us /dfg/

Is the Lazy Newb Pack known to cause crashes? I've got a few crashes since I started playing the game even with the auto save on it's starting to be really annoying

>>158017893
Leopards follow the same AI as most other wildlife. They enter the map, meander about in a general direction, and eventually try to leave the map, usually on the opposite map edge as the one they entered on. Like most other animals they'll usually run when they see a dwarf, though you'll occasionally get a brave one that will attack lone dwarves. They don't stalk, stealth or ambush dwarves or any other creatures, no wild animals do, >>158019493 is full of it.

>>158019952
Wow you just rewrote everything i said and then called me full of shit. Go to hell

>>158019715
Was just kidding senpai, I actually want the same thing as you
Our ideas might diverge, what do you mean by realistic properties

>>158020079
>stealth predators
>stalking them for some time
>ambush setup
No, I described their actual behavior, which you made no mention of, and dispelled your bullshit, which occupied the bulk of your post. The only correct thing you said was the bit about attacking solo dwarves.

>10/20/2016 Toady One Continuing the player adventurer artifact rumors/witnesses/conversations etc. The game needs to understand what's going on when you, say, bring an artifact into view, place it on a pedestal, pick it back up, and then hand it to somebody. If there are people around, they'll create witness reports (which later turn into rumors) for each of those, but the final artifact location is the most important, so I have to make sure the right old reports get cancelled and so forth, even if some of the events last longer or are missed by certain people and not others, and so on. For instance, if one of the witnesses only sees the part in that sequence where you pick the artifact up, they might think you are stealing it, which is sort of reasonable, but not if you just brought it back yourself moments earlier -- they could afford to be a bit more circumspect, maybe just say something and you can be like, "nah, it's cool, I just brought this back and want to give it to somebody". But that's hard to get working, especially as the overall situation becomes murky and complicated. We'll do what we can!

>I've done lots of tests of slightly different situations in the same room over and over. I have a little teleporter debug command that causes the last artifact mentioned in a conversation to appear in my hands, which really speeds things up.
The Toad is working

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>>158015584
I want to make me some terracotta warriors.

>>157940748
Reminder that Dwarf Therapist HAS been updated:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=122968.msg7214413#msg7214413
only works with 32bit SDL version though

>>157971536
check this
>>158015584 that would look cool as fuck

>>158020754
I wonder If something like this could exist in dwarf fortress, and how would that happen ?
Would it have a mythological origin?( A whole civ turned in statues by a curse)
Maybe it could be a mood-like decision from some king to achieve it (like irl)
I dont know, there are just so many things that the next updates could bring, changing the game so vastly, that I block before the idea

>>157971536
You can pick
>3x3 stairs
>an 'e' in a red background in a black shirt
>A big blue U, as you are a human, it fits
>A real pic of microcline, with a ''adamantine, praise the miners'' under it
I have more

>>158020952
32bit DF is, essentially, a deprecated version now. It's reasonable to assume that most of the player base is going to be using 64bit, and Toady has even expressed reluctance to continue keeping 32bit up to date. I think it would be misleading to remove the "(Out of Date)" from the DT link.

>>158020464
I described their observed behavior. They do stalk their prey, edging towards their taget until within pouncing distance. If you charge them during this long "stalking" period, they will run scared. The animal may even back off if the prey is too dangerous. They dont have ambush skill but their method of attacking is stalking followed by ambushing. Now fuck off

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>>158021673
All wildlife behaviour is raw-defined, and as far as I know, there is no raw token for making predators stalk prey. It's most likely that you over-analysed their behaviour.

Also, please refrain from telling more experienced players to "fuck off", as if the general belonged to people who spread misinfo.

>>158021673
>until within pouncing distance
OwO

>>158022552
You only decided to reply about leapords in order to be a dick towards me. Take your fake benevolence and shove it up your ass

>>158023163
>believeing individualist concepts such as "you" and "me" bear any meaning on a fucking anonymous image board
What the fuck will I gain from being a dick towards you? I don't even know you.

I simply don't want more misinfo to spread among the DF community. There is enough of it already.

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>>158023163
Yeah. Sure. That was the reason for his post. Yes. Not to extrapolate on information + inform you and other posters, he just hates *you* explicitly.
I can't begin to imagine the mental gymnastics you're pulling to get to that place in your mind.

Hey guys whats happening in the world of dee eff gee right now :D

>>158023163
That's not even the same anon. He is right, though.
I responded to your post about leopards because you're wrong. Now you're being aggressively wrong.

>>158023447
>>158023450
Do you think people on the internet cant antagonize eachother?
Just because you enjoy replying like anonymous slobs doesnt mean I have to.

>>158023812
You're honestly annoying the shit out of me at the moment. Who the fuck complains about tone when someone gives you actual advice?

Are you baiting?

>>158024060
Youre not giving me advice. I know what im talking about. I SEEN LEAPORDS AND OTHER FELINES STALK

People are being angry on /dfg/ D':

>>158024307
Anything you've seen that looked like stalking was entirely coincidental. Animal behavior is very poorly modelled right now. Predators don't do anything particularly predatory. They don't seek creatures to kill, they're only a little more willing to engage in combat with creatures that enter their LoS. When they do decide to fight they do the same thing as any other creature that has willingly joined a conflict: they run in a straight line toward their target. This applies to leopards and every other large feline, and their giant- and -man variants.

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>>158024970
>tfw this general's "angry" would be "normal" for most generals

>>158026282
Well but cats have an interaction that allows them to prey on vermin. That same interaction could have the ratio tuned down to be unable to attack until spending n number of ticks within x amount of tiles of a fleshy humanoid or beast.

>>157959119
> hearthstone
> balanced
Weird to see this two words together.

>>157976118
That's probably banned in the US

>>158029340
so is kinder surprise
americans have weird safety standards

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>>158029623
We have a lot of stupid fat children, a little kid choking to death on candy is gonna fall right through a glass chair, and then who do you blame?

The parents and school obviously.

>Captcha: Danger CEDAR

>>158027315
The vermin hunting tag is hard coded to do one specific thing. I suppose it's true that Toady could theoretically use it as a base to create a new tag that controls hunting behavior for larger creatures. It's not a thing that's in the game now, if that's what you're saying. It's not even moddable to do that, except maybe with some kind of dfhack wizardry.

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After digging out the first two floors, I now have 4000 stone. Time to start carving out some of the actual buildings. First comes the flast and culture tower(the food stockpile and dorms are on the roof of the latter).

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>>158029623
>americans have weird safety standards

Yes, a lot of it stems from people not wanting to take responsibility for their own actions / failures and pushing all the blame onto someone else (as well as the courts allowing people to sue basically whoever they want to).

It's really getting out of hand... A lot of people are pushing to ban shit like Tide Pods (pic related) because thousands of irresponsible parents are leaving them out where young children can get to them and of course the children are ingesting the pods and getting sick. The parents blame the pods for being brightly colored and visually appealing to children instead of blaming themselves for not storing toxic shit out of reach of their children.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/25/health/laundry-detergent-packets-dangers/

Will Toady ever program possibly the in feelings go want dwarf was gay?

>>158035193
>The parents blame the pods for being brightly colored and visually appealing to children instead of blaming themselves for not storing toxic shit out of reach of their children.
Oh for fuck sakes

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>>158035510

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>>157941279
You build a port city.
Receive fishing and trading boats, develop marine industry.
Send out your own merchant ships to other fortresses down the river, or on the sea/lake shore.
Send out dwarven raiding parties to nearby elf retreats.

A man can dream... ;_;

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>>158035762

>>158035510
>>158035762
If you're gonna samefag to try to force your dumb meme at least wait longer between posts. And try to make your nonsense a little more plausibly nonsensical.

>>158035596
Welcome to america

>>158035886
>once you build a port you can start receiving merchant ships from civilizations on other continents and islands
>migrants and visitors will periodically arrive by sea
>you will be raided by pirates, fend off fleets of ghost ships led by seafaring necromancers, and besieged by distant civilizations bent on conquest
>ships out at sea have the possibility to run into sea monsters or be led astray by sirens or merfolk

Boats when?

>>158036328
I didn't samefag. Judging from the filename, that post is made by tileset-anon.

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>>157971536
Do it.

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>>158037080
>mfw 3x3 stairs

>>158036717
Assuming you mean clappingken, that wasn't one of the posts I linked.

>>158037185
Ah, I see. Sorry.

Still not me. I AM an ESL, so occationally my posts might look a bit off, but I'd never write something like that.

>>158036717
Wut, I wish I could be so nonsensical without it looking deliberate.

>>158037149
fuck off
>>158037080
retarded idea, not even DF players would get it just by looking at it. that shit needs context and its beyond autistic having to explain your t-shirt.

>>157971536
I say smiling dwarf icon. Bearded dwarf is a little to obvious, smiling is iconic and more subtle

>>158037080
Somebody really likes hardcore porn

>>158038414
Both are good.

>>158037917
What about the ascii @ symbol?

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I've dug out another two z-levels, and I now have 8000 stone.

The top of the flats and culture tower(which I has already turned into a temple) are now complete, although I still have to make windows and smooth them.

I've also reached the roofs of my industrial buildings and my castle, so now it's time to dig those out, too.

>>158041967
@ is used everywhere. It has to be more iconic like *cotton t shirt*

Man I'm on fire with these ideas! pls no profit

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>>157959119
why the fuck is transport tycoon not 10000% hype

how do i learn this gam....
how do i have fun in this gam...
how do i play this gam..

>>158043310
by playing
by playing
by guides and trial and error

>>158043310
Be brave, learn by attempting. Disasters are enjoyable in their own way. Take advantage of this general to answer questions that the wiki cant.

>>158042980
because most people are plebs who only know about muh rollercoasters

>>158043310
Everything I learned about Dwarf Fortress I learned from the OP.

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>>158035886
YOU FORGOT THE FUCKING BOAT FORTRESS MODE. INSTEAD OF A FORTRESS YOU OVERSEER A BOAT. REEEEEEEEEEEE TOADY

>>158021484
True but it should be at least noted that there is a way to use it, some people really do not want to play without DT

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>>158044886
This is your home now.

>>158045750
As I was floating down unconcerned Rivers
I no longer felt myself steered by the haulers:
Gaudy Redskins had taken them for targets
Nailing them naked to coloured stakes.

I cared nothing for all my crews,
Carrying Flemish wheat or English cottons.
When, along with my haulers those uproars were done with
The Rivers let me sail downstream where I pleased.

Into the ferocious tide-rips
Last winter, more absorbed than the minds of children,
I ran! And the unmoored Peninsulas
Never endured more triumphant clamourings

The storm made bliss of my sea-borne awakenings.
Lighter than a cork, I danced on the waves
Which men call eternal rollers of victims,
For ten nights, without once missing the foolish eye of the harbor lights!

>>158046130
Sweeter than the flesh of sour apples to children,
The green water penetrated my pinewood hull
And washed me clean of the bluish wine-stains and the splashes of vomit,
Carrying away both rudder and anchor.

And from that time on I bathed in the Poem
Of the Sea, star-infused and churned into milk,
Devouring the green azures; where, entranced in pallid flotsam,
A dreaming drowned man sometimes goes down;

Where, suddenly dyeing the bluenesses, deliriums
And slow rhythms under the gleams of the daylight,
Stronger than alcohol, vaster than music
Ferment the bitter rednesses of love!

I have come to know the skies splitting with lightnings, and the waterspouts
And the breakers and currents; I know the evening,
And Dawn rising up like a flock of doves,
And sometimes I have seen what men have imagined they saw!

Is there a better way to train striker other than going to a hamlet and punching everybody to death

>>158046130
>>158046404
sauce?
>>158047302
wait a couple bloat updates and build straw/mud people, and train atacking them

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>>158043929
sad days

>>158019952
>They don't stalk, stealth or ambush dwarves or any other creatures, no wild animals do

this is literally what the LARGE_PREDATOR token does though

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>>158048415

>>158043310
Do you want to play fortress mode or adventure mode

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>>158049060

>>158048415
Thank Toady above I was right the whole time. I knew I saw leapords, jaguars, and cheetahs clearly stalking my herbalists

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What is this small creature?

>>158049757
c

>>157959119
Rape.

>>158050170
>there are no porn mods for DF
Damn

>>158047541
I have seen the low-hanging sun speckled with mystic horrors.
Lighting up long violet coagulations,
Like the performers in very-antique dramas
Waves rolling back into the distances their shiverings of venetian blinds!

I have dreamed of the green night of the dazzled snows
The kiss rising slowly to the eyes of the seas,
The circulation of undreamed-of saps,
And the yellow-blue awakenings of singing phosphorus!

I have followed, for whole months on end, the swells
Battering the reefs like hysterical herds of cows,
Never dreaming that the luminous feet of the Marys
Could force back the muzzles of snorting Oceans!

I have struck, do you realize, incredible Floridas
Where mingle with flowers the eyes of panthers
In human skins! Rainbows stretched like bridles
Under the seas' horizon, to glaucous herds!

I have seen the enormous swamps seething, traps
Where a whole leviathan rots in the reeds!
Downfalls of waters in the midst of the calm
And distances cataracting down into abysses!

Glaciers, suns of silver, waves of pearl, skies of red-hot coals!
Hideous wrecks at the bottom of brown gulfs
Where the giant snakes devoured by vermin
Fall from the twisted trees with black odours!

I should have liked to show to children those dolphins
Of the blue wave, those golden, those singing fishes.
- Foam of flowers rocked my driftings
And at times ineffable winds would lend me wings.

Sometimes, a martyr weary of poles and zones,
The sea whose sobs sweetened my rollings
Lifted its shadow-flowers with their yellow sucking disks toward me
And I hung there like a kneeling woman...

Almost an island, tossing on my beaches the brawls
And droppings of pale-eyed, clamouring birds,
And I was scudding along when across my frayed cordage
Drowned men sank backwards into sleep!


Le bateu ivre

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>>158050346
Goblin Fortress exists.

>>158050424
But now I, a boat lost under the hair of coves,
Hurled by the hurricane into the birdless ether,
I, whose wreck, dead-drunk and sodden with water,
neither Monitor nor Hanse ships would have fished up;

Free, smoking, risen from violet fogs,
I who bored through the wall of the reddening sky
Which bears a sweetmeat good poets find delicious,
Lichens of sunlight [mixed] with azure snot,

Who ran, speckled with lunula of electricity,
A crazy plank, with black sea-horses for escort,
When Julys were crushing with cudgel blows
Skies of ultramarine into burning funnels;

I who trembled, to feel at fifty leagues' distance
The groans of Behemoth's rutting, and of the dense Maelstroms
Eternal spinner of blue immobilities
I long for Europe with it's aged old parapets!

I have seen archipelagos of stars! and islands
Whose delirious skies are open to sailor:
- Do you sleep, are you exiled in those bottomless nights,
Million golden birds, O Life Force of the future? -

But, truly, I have wept too much! The Dawns are heartbreaking.
Every moon is atrocious and every sun bitter:
Sharp love has swollen me up with heady langours.
O let my keel split! O let me sink to the bottom!

If there is one water in Europe I want, it is the
Black cold pool where into the scented twilight
A child squatting full of sadness, launches
A boat as fragile as a butterfly in May.

I can no more, bathed in your langours, O waves,
Sail in the wake of the carriers of cottons,
Nor undergo the pride of the flags and pennants,
Nor pull past the horrible eyes of the hulks.

Guys

What about masterwork

>>158049647
He said they had intended for it to be a thing they do but didn't know if it worked when I asked him if he knew that stuff like cheetahs chasing down ibexes happens.

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>>158051158

>>158048415
That is literally not what it does.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Creature_token#LARGE_PREDATOR

Further, you even specifically asked Toady about the event in that screenshot, and he told you as much.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140544.msg6700479#msg6700479

is it possible for night trolls to pop up in fortress mode?

>>158051830
Oops, that second link is the wrong one...
I'll try to find the one I was referencing.

>>158052716
Was gonna say, if you're talking about me asking him about the ibex, I'm not the one talking about leopards stalking.

>>158049919
What does it do?

>>158053124
kills hamster i food pile

keep away from dorf or will get attach

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Peekaboo

>>158053330
Also works as bait for megabeasts and zombies, makes a decent roast if you have enough of them, and with a couple you can make a floodgate if you get the right inspiration.

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>>158054147
Embarrassing, desu

>>158052993
Yeah, I was. I know you aren't the one I was talking to before, I just remembered you posting about the cheetah/ibex here when it happened and asking about it in FotF. I found it, and it was indeed an ambiguous answer as you said. I guess I was conflating Toady's "just lucky" response in that other link with the answer in this one.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140544.msg6528473#msg6528473

Regardless, chasing after willingly entering a conflict is something that every creature does. Dwarves will chase down a cheetah if they decide to fight it (though it only rarely goes the other way). A large_predator attacking a smaller creature that it happens across is not the same thing as predators stalking and hunting prey, an intentional seeking behavior. That's what anon was claiming for leopards, but it's not what LARGE_PREDATOR does.

>>158054304
>that "will work for bandwidth" shirt

>>158054729
Yeah, still a neat thing to see.

>>158051158
Bloat: The Bloatening

I mean, the idea of introducing magic and alchemy and shit to your fortress is neat, but in the end it's just endless production chains and shit you need to look up and build in a convoluted manner.

It's technically well done from what I can tell, but it's just everything and the kitchen sink.

>>158051158
I use Masterwork so I can play a cute incubus. in adventure mode.

>>158051158
fag combined ALL df mods and made a simple GUI for browsing them

he got the permission from the original modders, but while they mod for free, mastershit guy actually expect donations for combining them

as if that's not enough, he has the nerve to ask players of mastershit to pay for his perpertual luxury vacations

>>158057178
Just fucking make your fagubus boi yourself.

>>158057814
I just don't donate money for it and use his stuff anyway. More people should do that.

>>158057976
But then I'd miss out on all the other civs the mod adds. I only play adventure mode so I'm not really exposed to the bloaty side of masterwork anyhow.

And like >>158057997 said I just don't donate and its all good.

Is there a way for me to drop injured dwarves down a hole?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS39J7FTIjc

Japa is dat nigga

>>158058567
Minecarts, as always, are the answer.

>>158058952
"Here Urist, we created this "ambulance" that will take you straight to the "hospital"."

>>158056742
>still a neat thing to see
Agreed. I love all the little emergent features that aren't explicitly intended. Indeed, in a case like the one that was under contention it's easy to see how one could infer an explicit mechanic from a happy accident. The LARGE_PREDATOR tag will result in cases where your fisherdwarves get run down by a pride of lions, or grizzly bear corners and kills an elk, etc. The missing piece of intent on the part of the predator is easy to find in that scenario even when it's not there. It's part of the charm of the game.
That said, I do look forward to more robust animal behavior. It would be nice to need to put a guard on my pastures when a jaguar enters the map because I KNOW it's looking for a meal, instead of just thinking "if I'm unlucky that jaguar is going to wander into my pastures, I better keep an eye on it". Even better if they do start using stealth and tracking to find prey, though I don't want to think about what that might do to my fps.

>>158058952
Hmm, I've never used minecarts before, but I suppose it's time to learn.
I've got a werebeast dwarf stuck in that hole, and I don't have anybody worth appointing as the High Lord of all things medical,
so you can probably see why I'd like to get rid of this useless injured scum.

>>158050346
That's funny, because whenever I play Dwarf Fortress, I feel like I've been fucked

>>158060254
Just build the wall around him.
After he transforms into werebeast and back, you can temporarily release him, just to assign to burrow and then imprison him again in dedicated place.

>>158058952
Heyyy. That explains the black streak down the front of my cliff in one of the AV screenshots I posted in the last thread. I had marker designations in the front where the entry "gate" will be.

>>158061792
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.
I suppose the word "stuck" was the wrong one to use since I already purposefully walled him in.
My plan is to somehow drop food injured dwarves into the room for the werebeast to feast on.

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>>158061808
Ah ha, detective armok!

>>158041967
man you people suck at design. You need something that can be interpreted out of context. a fucking @ its more relevant in twitter. If its gonna be a lonely symbol it has to be the smiley or the plump helmet. No other weird shit.

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>>158062573
This @ isn't the same as the text one though.

>>158058567
You can station them on a retracting bridge over the hole you want them to fall in and then pull the lever. You could also do the same with burrows instead of a station order, but it's less reliable.
I can see a couple of ways to use minecarts to do it, but it's probably more trouble than it's worth.

>>158063252
Hatch, bridges fling them, hatches drop.

>>158063153
just because its a bit pixelated doesnt mean anything. its not recognizable by the player base if you show it out of context

>>158041967
Maybe if you want to identify as roguelike fan.

>>158063372
Yeah, but you can make a bridge that covers the entire radius that a station order can send a dwarf. You can't do that with hatches. And you can make a bridge take the entire floorspace of a room so there's nowhere to be flung that isn't down your hole.

>>158051158
Does each race have actual sites now

>>158064505
Except kobolds.

>>158064256
>rogue-o-sexual

>>158064337
Look into the shaft of enlightenment methods, they're still very useful for getting someone dropped down a hatch controllably.

>>158063252
I'm trying minecart right now. I've already built the minecart and a track that goes into the hole.
Now I only have to figure out a hundred other things, fuck

>>158065062
Not even kobold caves?

>>158065440
They're listed but abstracted, not actually at the site.

>>158067487
So no kobolds in adventure mode

Well it's not that bad

Masterwork seems fun for adventure mode

>>158068247
Masterwork has actual kobold civs if I recall. They either live in fortresses or towns by default, but I modded them to live in forest retreats like the lil vermins they are.

>>158068247
Camps have them, and dungeons, but caves don't have the populations present.

>>158071559
Oh, cool.

>>158021164
Yeah thats pretty dope.

I was looking at that omega dwarf symbol though for another idea. I was thinking a small circular-ish different shades of silver mountain like you see on worldgen with silver omega symbols surrounding it

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>>158075207
nerd stylish? Y/N

>>158077336
Ok yeah that's pretty cool actually.

Begone

>>158035762
so this is going in the op rotation right?

>>158083791
Stop trying to force your retarded meme you sperg.

/dfg/ shudders and begins to move!

When will the rapist be ready for the latest version? I'd like to gen a custom world without crashing.

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>>158077336

>>157972763
Boatmurdered?

>>158088856
You forgot
>The human shitposter necromancer gestures!

>>158089248
Them two things don't have nothing to do with each other.

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>>158085281
>s-stop having fun

>>158092758
>/dfg/ cancels Make Post: interrupted by Giant BotePoster Corpse

>>158050346
>Create adventurer
>Superior Endurance
>Superior Recuperation
>Grand Master Wrestler
>Mission: FUCK EVERYTHING

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>>158092758

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Yes?

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>>158096796

>>158096263
Recuperation?

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>>158092758
>the thread shudders and writhes

>>158096796
That is actually a good idea for a shirt

>>158096796
Awful.

>>158096796
>No thin blonde human wife
why live

>>158099257
For the short brunettes with a booty?

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Why do so many of my nobles have titles? Are they all war heroes or what? Pls no vamp.

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Getting better. I've now dug out the top floor of the houses in the gated community. I found out that there were some misalignments in the castle and gated community, but I managed to come up with solutions.

My biggest problem now is getting sand for the windows. Hopefully there's sand in the caverns.

There's only three z-levels to go before I reach the main floor, and I've got aprox 10 000 stone so far(although I don't have a bookie yet, so you might want to add a few k's to that).

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Every time I have a (I think) decent fort going, I get nothing but non-military dwarves. Are these guys even able to train at all, considering they have no one to teach them how to use weapons, wear armor, etc?

>>158101118
danger room those cunts

>>158101118
They will train just a little slower, but still become legendary in year or two.

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>>158101118
>there are still people on this board who don't take proficient military dwarves on their embarks

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>>158101715
If it makes you feel better I usually end up wiping 2 or 3 years in due to werebeasts. I'm trying to get the feel of good base design in the meantime.

>>158101798

I was attacked by a Were lama at first year

>The lone fort dog teared it apart

>>158101917
I wish I was that lucky. The first werebeast I got was a mammoth, the second was a gila monster. The third was a badger or something else that doesn't take shit from no dwarf.

>>158101963
you call that unlucky? come back when you have to deal with a weregamecrash arriving just before the seasonal save

>>158102113
Ugh, that is the worst kind of night creature. Did your fort survive?

>>158102113
>weregamecrash
It would be really cool if some new mythology dangers/curses were expressed as something the player must actually be afraid from
Im thinking about some MGS game were the final boss could fumble with your controls and even delete your saves
Dwarves are just that, but If we really wanted to, we could make gods something really powerful, commanding the player even to do things in a certain fashion for fear of the god fucking up his saves, or opening demon portals in the fortress, something like that

Does Were Giant Elephants exist?

>>158102450
Fuck, if those exist, I don't know what will we be calling a god in the next updates