/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

someone PLEASE tell me how to beat justicar/elise control warriors

PLEASE

EVERY FAGGOT ON LADDER IS PLAYING THIS BORING STUPID SHIT

>>157094192
control priest

>>157093978
More like dead game edition
One Night is having even worse of an effect than Grand Tourney did

>>157094192
Hunter

>>157094192
Control Priest
Control Paladin
Hunter
Miracle Rogue
Reno Lock
Reno Mage

stop playing Shaman you cancerous cuck

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Losers from next standard

Neutral losses - Grim patron, emporer, Dragon decks in general. Justicar. Flame juggler, argent horse, silverhand, refresh vendor, frigid, mukla champ, grand crusader, kodo rider, nexus saraad, chillmaw, kragg, icehowl. Tinyfin, huge toad, scarab, tombspider, eerie statue, summon stone, wobble runts, naga o 5, sir fin, brann, elise, reno, arch thief

Hunter - Quick shot, king elek, powershot, bear trap, brave, ram wrangler, lock n load, dart trap, desert, that hat

Druid - Flamedrood, living roots, saberdrood, darnassus, savage, astral meme, mulch. Raven idol, rapter, memekin

Mage - dragon breath, flamewaker, spellslinger, dalaran, fallen, flame lance, effigy, boarmorphm arcane blast, rhonin. Flame torch, conjurer, anim armour

Paladin - Vigil, seal, warhorse train, murloc knight, compet, argent lance, tuskarr. MC, eadric, enter the meme. Sacred trial, uldaman, anyfin

Rogue - gang up, Dark skulker, buccaneer, burgle, pan rider, valient, shady dealer, beneath, anubrak, tomb pillager, raptor

Priest - Resurrect, flash heal, glory, champion, shadspawn, wrymrest, shadfiend, confessor, curator, entomb, excavate

Shaman - destroyer, lava shock, totem gol, ancest draw, tuskar, heal wave, draenai, thunder bluff, elem destruct, charged ham, memecaller, trogg.

Warlock - imp gang boss, demonwrath, wrathguard, tiny knight, fist, dreadsteed, curse, reliquary, peddler

Warrior - revenge, bash, alex champ, wrynn, sea reav, all the taunt synergy cards, fierce monkey, obsidian.

>>157094382
im not playing shaman

im playing nzoth rogue

>>157094382
>shaman
>losing to control warrior
How are you that bad at shaman?

>>157094192

CotW nerf didn't change the mid hunter matchup much. Should still be favored. Especially if you go the Barnes + Ragnaros route.

>>157094192

Don't just vomit out your entire hand or you'll get blown out by brawl.

Keep 2-3 midrange minions on board to keep up the pressure

Refill as they get removed

If he didn't draw the nuts, you should deplete his hand of removal and outvalue him

>>157094128
>I've been reading your shit the whole thread

Could you do me a favor and actually quote all of the posts you think I, specifically, did in this thread on an anonymous imageboard? I could use the laugh

>>157094542
Then you must be doing something wrong, my man, because N'zoth Rogue is heavily favored against Control Warrior. Fedora Shitters can't handle the constant stream of deathrattles and crumble under the might of N'zoth's burly tentacle cock.

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>>157094519
Dragon decks are dead
Control warrior is hit hard, wall warrior is dead, patron decks are dead.

Rogue is worse then it was in vanilla without expansion cards and flurry nerf.
With miracle taking much longer and mill being dead, nzoth taken huge hits too.

Priest gets worse with justicar and entomb and exav gone. Ress priest is weakened, silence priest weakened.

Warlock remains mostly unaffected

Hunter loses some good cards but again remains unaffected. Will have to aggro or secret now.

Paladin hit hard, secret is dead, anyfin is dead.

Drood hit hard will resort to beast meme or token combo

Shaman press f to pay respects will resort to totem.

Mage hit hard will go back to tony combo

More control cards hit then aggro
Combo decks much harder to suceed
A lot of healing cut off
Most discover is gone
Battlecry memes harder

A lot of classes will resort to cthun.
Freeze mage may come back
Hunter and warrior aggro will be back unless new cards stop it
Zoolock unaffected

>>157094556

Gorehowl and Revenge fucks midshammy pretty hard.

>>157094556
Control Warrior is literally one of Midrange Shaman's worst match up, even though it's only slightly in the Warrior's favor. You are playing against shitty Control Warriors.

I do not play Shaman.

>>157094695
>Zoolock unaffected
As I said, it doesn't matter what Blizzard does to zoolock. It will still exist.
If they lose a bunch of class cards they'll just pick up any decent neutrals. Power level between warlock class cards and neutrals isn't all that big.
Zoolock will literally always exist in one form or another because their hero power allows it to. It's just a bunch of cheaps minions and a finisher thrown into a deck. Literally nothing else. There will always be more cheap minions, and there will always be doomguard or leeroy.

>>157094192
Play around their individual removal and mass removal, be the beatdown

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What should I add to this dragon pally?

>>157095397
A gun so you can kill yourself

>>157095397
Justicar for the control matchups. And brann for the historians.
Trust me on this.

>>157095397
>argent squire
>2x of both dragon 3 drops
>no equality
>no wild pyro
just from looking at it for 2 seconds these are the mistakes I can see right away. Also, no lategame dragons, but netherspite historian may be able to fill that out for you so I'm unsure whether you should add any, maybe a chillmaw.

>>157095397
I don't play Dragons much because they are boring as hell, but this deck looks like it needs a bit more late game. I'm not sure that Lightlord and Tirion will be enough to go toe to toe with decks like Control Warrior.

Just my two pesos.

I think tournaments would be a lot more interesting if they let players bring 18 decks.

Currenly, by the time you get to finals, you've already seen every deck and already know how to approach the match up.

Let people bring wacky decks that only work once. That would be cool.

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>>157094695

>paladin dead
>meanwhile im on 69% winrate with this deck from rank 16 to rank 3 currently
>the only time im losing is vs *********midrange******** shaman or token druid when i can't draw my board clears

Just stop playing *****tier1**** netdecks and surprise those cucks on ladder already.

>>157096153
logistical nightmare
please no

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>>157094943
>literally one of midrange shaman's worst matchups
>not even a blip of pink anywhere in warrior's column from the latest VS Data report

>>157094743
A full board tends to fuck up control warrior pretty bad when they have to waste their removal on shitty totems in case they bloodlust/thunderbluff. Especially now that Execute is 2 mana. Garrosh has to spend brawl clearing totems at this point.

How come you guys haven't switched to wild?

It still gives you the same rewards.

>>157096557
Mouse over the box for Midrange Shaman vs Control Warrior, and it will say that its win rate is 47.8% which is, like I said, slightly less than even for the Shaman.

Midrange Shaman is such an oppressive deck that one of its worse match ups is still approximately even though slightly unfavored. The best counter to Shaman is Shaman at this point.

>>157096839
loatheb

>>157096891
>>>>literally one of midrange shaman's worst matchups
>>>even though it's only slightly in the Warrior's favor
>>47.8% which is, like I said, slightly less than even
>>"You are playing against shitty Control Warriors"

Do you not see the actual red boxes over by the mage column?
That's what a bad matchup looks like. That's probably what the worst matchup for midrange shaman actually looks like.

>lost 5 games in a row again to shitty card draw
epic

love this game

>>157097341
Are you actually too retarded to interpret the chart?

>Sjow trying to grind to rank 1 legend
>with Midrange
>still worse than 50% win rate

How can one man be so shameless and bad at the same time?

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>>157097376

>playing rouge

>>157097432
why are people grinding for rank 1 right now?

i watched dog play 2 games at rank 13 legend, he played a rank 3 and 1 NON legend player, won both games and didnt change rank

its pointless to grind rank 1 legend now when there arent even enough legend players for you to get ranks from

>>157097341
>vs CW 47.8%
>vs Freeze 43.2%
>vs Aggro Mage 44.9%

I said ONE of the worst match ups, not THE worst. You ARE playing shitty Control Warriors if they can't consistently win a match that is statistically favored for them.

Look you are clearly a Shaman player, I get that now, but you have been fortunate enough to be playing against bad Warriors. In the Legend ranks, which I don't know if you are or not, the match up is favored for Control Warrior. This is not up for debate. This is data.

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>>157097432
>shit up the game with muh tier 1 deck
>get cucked
sometimes there's justice in hearthstone

I'm gonna meme on ladder by playing Force of Nature, Savage Roar, Concede.

Wish me luck guys.

>>157097945

godspeed

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Is this game even worth playing until the next expansion? All the decks are so boring right now.

>>157096392
I didnt say they were dead, just secret and anyfin. Of course nzoth and cthun would still do well.

does anyone want to do a sealed deck battle?

>>157097705
>This is not up for debate. This is data.
what the fuck is wrong with you
the only thing you can possibly do with data is argue with it

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>Been playing slightly before gvg
>have never received a golden legendary
>my last two legendaries are nat the dark fisher
This brings my dark Nat total to 4

How are you doing with legos anon?

>>157099302
>do an arena run a couple of days ago
>do average, 6 wins
>open pack, it contains FUCKING GOLDEN N'ZOTH, second golden legendary since I started playing in beta
>hype
>open up a random pack yesterday
>motherFUCKING YOGG SARON, 1600 DUST BOYS

Pretty gooooooood.

>>157098228
can any one make paste Hillary on the mysterious challenger one?

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>Spirit Claws

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thoughts?

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Question: How good does a card generated by a card that puts it in your deck need to be?

Say a Legendary that puts minions you cannot normally play into your deck at the end of your turn. How good can I make those minions?

>>157100187
>alexstrasza with no burn
>4 secrets with no reliable way to draw them
>tony with no cheap spells to generate fireballs with (arcane blast doesn't count, you'll need those to not get absolutely shat on early game)
>elise for no reason whatsoever
probably fun, but unreliable as hell. At that point you might aswell play reno.

>>157100425
slightly below average

>>157100425
depends on the cost and stat distribution of the minion played
if cheap with low stat loss, then they have to be significantly below average
if expensive with high stat loss, then they have to be significantly above average (ysera)

>>157100425
They need to be good.
Just look at ysera. Her minions are undercosted as fuck she puts them right into your hand, and they still aren't the best cards she gives.
With a lego that puts cards into your deck they need to be good enough to justify the lego that does nothing to influence the board and other than the minion only gives an extra card against fatigue.

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>>157100509
>>157100686

So where would these cards land? What kind of minions would they generate since I had people suggest they should be higher then normal minions since they are shuffled into the deck. Though I am guessing it would be better if they were Neutral...

Should I dust soggoth?

>>157101276
fuck no

>>157101187
ehmm lets see 1mana understated yeti that only really works with beast deck, that SHUFFLES it into your deck, it would have to be roughly 1mana 10/10 to ever see play according to my calculations

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post overrated trash that makes you lose to everything on ladder

i'll start

>>157101187
It's really, really finnicky and hard balance these types of effects, especially if you don't have any idea what you want the token to do.

The minion itself is undercosted by a full mana, and the token is shuffled into your deck. There's a consistency problem, and an immediate tempo loss at a fairly integral part of the game. Therefore, the tokens generated would absolutely HAVE to be strong with a unique effect.

If they're literally just stats, they won't see play. The only types of decks that want pure stats are midrangey tempo decks, and midrangey tempo decks don't want understatted minions. This would go into a control deck (or if it's a combo piece, into a combo deck), so it would need to do something strong & unique that another card can't fill.

Good luck.

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>>157101514

These weren't reshuffled back in. I could come up with a different effect, But this was the idea I had for making a group of minions that could only be summoned by these two legendaries.

Others were a 7 9/9 plain card and a 2 2/4 "Inspire: Summon a Basic Totem"

>>157101717
(PS. For inspiration, look at Elise. Elise has an infinitely better body than your minion, and her effect is extremely unique and strong under the right conditions. Granted, she shuffles 2 cards into your deck and requires 2 extra mana spent at some point, so your card shouldn't be quite as strong as hers, but it should give you an idea of what you want.

Don't just make it a midrange minion. It would be fucking shit.)

>>157102008
here let me make this clear, if the card said when you summon this draw a card, and he put those in your hand, it still wouldnt be played. Compare it to freaking thunder bluff valiant for christ sake

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would a card like this see play?

>>157102008
Nevermind, you don't understand card design at all.
>yes I totally want to spend 5 mana for an undercosted shit minion to draw a shitty 2 mana minion later in the game instead of an actual lategame card that would help me win
>yes I totally want to spend 5 mana for an undercosted shit minion to eventually draw an unplayable 7 mana do nothing minion later in the game
The 3 mana minion might actually be okay, because you just cycle through it. But then you come upon the problem of it not helping the gameplan of any deck you would want to put this in. It is clearly a tempo minion, but why would a tempo deck play an understatted minion on turn 5? That's how you lose. That card can only see play in a control deck that doesn't care whether its minions are understatted, but a control deck doesn't care about having a plain 3 mana minion either, it wants lategame bombs/removal/unique effects.

>>157102553
>5 mana do nothing
maybe in a deck designed to tank your rank as low as possible? no seriously, that's an absolutely terrible card. it'll silence the enemy (and your) board, and then just die for free.

Like, maybe if deathrattles become super problematic again? But even then, you'd want a way to kill them, too. This doesn't achieve that, you'd have to wait until next turn to kill them, which you probably can't because you just silenced all your taunts and shit so you'll have a pain train going to your face.

No, terrible card.

>>157102464
>>157102573

I am only just getting it, I was just showing the old cards and thinking of how to improve them. I might scrap the token mechanic for something else that makes playing Ursoc and Ursol together worth it.

How would you guys go about it? Give them +1/+1 and 'Decrease the cost of (Ursoc/Ursol) by (3)' Just so you can 'Turn 8 5/6 6/5'

>>157103169
That would be much more viable and actually change them into cards that would align with the win condition of the deck they would go in.

You then run into the problem of consistency, though. It's like less consistent Thaddius, except you don't get a Thaddius in the end. But if played together it's much cheaper, and they have beast synergy. Maybe?

>>157103657

I'll throw another design of it out and see how it looks.

Though if you are good enough, You could get both of these played on turn 3

>>157104035
Yeah but consistency is the most important aspect of a Hearthstone deck. Doing that would require turn 2 coin+innervate+furbolg into turn 3 other furbolg. This would probably win almost every game it happens, but it's a 3-4 card combo (depending on whether you go second) that requires 2 1-ofs. It would be inconsistent, so not win you many games, yet feel incredibly unfair whenever it happens to you. If it were to be strong, it would be cancerous and be hailed as tuskarr totemic levels of bad design.

I'm not shitting on you btw, I just like to discuss card design.

>>157104517

Oh no, I am scrapping the Furbolg design unless I want to try again. I am working on a new 'brother' design that makes you want to run these together. Gonna post in a bit

>>157098228
Kind of. You need to play, otherwise you won't have enough gold to buy the next expansion.

>>157100425
Roaring torch is a decent example of a balanced card that generated in deck. The base card is a little more than 1 mana too expensive, and the card it generates is exactly 1 mana too cheep.

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?

Mage players should burn alive lol.

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>>157105390

I'll think on it later, I am gonna go with this and not make a whole web of cards randomly generated into a deck

>>157105518
That's a cool card. I don't know whether it would see play, because it encourages having lots of shit and the type of deck that would be able to play lots of cheap shit into it next turn generally doesn't care about taunt, but it is a cool card.

I like it. Might be viable.

why does EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SECRET HUNTER HAVE THE FUCKING CUNT 3/4 INTO FUCKING EAGLETHRON BOW WITH FUCKING CHRISTMASS TREE OF SECRETS IM SO FUCKING MAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>157105602
its still mightly shit, since even with hard mulligan ud have like 10% of having both when going 2nd on turn 3

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Post ID

Get shit

>>157106482
primal #1693 US

>>157106636
sent ;)

>>157106678
>Primal #1693
owcrap sorry its with capital P

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>>157106952
ACCEPT IT REEEEEE

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Suggestions? Will be keeping squid as Ive found him useful

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>>157107040
u sure u are US? i didnt get shit famalam

>>157107125
+1 golden brann, +2 golden unearthed raptor, +2 arcanosmith
you can guess what I suggest you cut

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Carniv #1249

PLEASE

I BEG YOU

>>157107309
Kek. Would if I could. I want to use blade flurry again but finding it difficult with what to replace .
Maybe il try to bring back pirate rogue for max meme potential

>>157107125
-2 squid +2 Tomb pillager -1 arcano +1 sylv

the game is really dying

how much is an account worth with most classic cards, expansion and all adventures?

>>157106482
DryBread#2141 (NA) if you still haven't done it yet

>>157107757
Ive been finding slyvannas terrible wierdly. Always too slow always gets transformed or countered.
And tomb pillager is not that effective without gadgetzan

>>157108175
It is. People are almost afraid to say sylvanas/dr boom sucks because they'll catch shit for it, but right now it does suck because shaman is roughly 1/4 of all decks and it always runs x2 hex and has several totems in play. That's why you don't run Flamewreathed or any other cute stuff instead of Fire Elemental, because they just get transformed and you payed whatever you did for them. You need cards that do something right away.

What expansion should i get?

>>157108175
Agree with the second, but the first is redundant. Especially in a N'zoth list, getting Sylv transformed is just a fact of life - but it's a transform / counter not used on a big Edwin, Auctioneer, or similar. The times you don't get buggered are so worth.

Do you guys cheat and use external software to help your arena drafts?

>>157108637
all of thrm

>>157108651
nope. If I get a pick I'm really unsure about, I'll go look at a list real quick to get an idea of somebody elses opinion of the cards, but that's about it

>>157108651
Yes but only because poorfag with 0 gold. Gotta make sure I get the most out of it. If I didn't have to worry about gold I like to imagine I wouldn't worry.

>>157108651
Yes because it keeps track of deck synergy for me.

What am I doing wrong? I just started today and suddenly I'm fighting people with C'Thun and a bunch of other bullshit cards I don't have access too.

What do?

>>157110246
... You get C'thun for free.

>>157110348
after you open a whispers pack lol
they're not giving those out automatically

>>157110348
You only get c'thun after purchasing or recieving one wotog pack.

>>157110519
well, they used to.
and just go open one pack, then. you should get free gold from unlocking all the classes/beating all the AI on expert and a bunch of other dumb shit

google hidden quests
also google trumps basic mage decks if you want a starting point

>>157108640
>>157108504
Used 1 sylvannas swapped out the burgles for thistle tea. Swapped one peddler for 1 skulker
Shits hilerious, having 3 extra sylvannas or eviscerates is too fun. The only bad roll with it in the deck is prep.

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How do I improve this?

This is probably the most fun viable deck right now. I really like fighting against Token Druid and getting 7 damage from Unleash the Hounds. lmao.

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What do I pick?

>>157111227
nobody is going to help u with your cancer shit hunter faggot

>>157111227
Solid as is, really. Only changes I would consider making would be:
-1 Bear Trap +1 Quick Shot
I would also consider either committing to a faster deck with a finisher (leeroy) instead of highmanes, or keeping the highmanes and add some more lategame like n'zoth/rag/cotw. right now you're kinda inbetween and the list looks really awkward.

>playing CWarrior Vs CWarrior
>My monkey gives me Varian, Greenskin, Millhouse, Brann and One of the lightbanes when I'm in fatigue
>Enemy Monkey gets Tiroin, Cairne, Rhonin, Sylv and some other shit
I love the Monkey some times but most of the time it fucks me over.

>>157111468
I can't see whether you have more expensive spells. If you do, then Medivh. If you don't, and you want to live the lightning bolt malygos finish dream, then Malygos. If you just want a decently statted dude then Halazeal.

>>157111468
Malygod

>>157110348
>>157110519
>>157110602

How do I get these packs? I feel like I'm far behind and being stupid. What are the AI battles? It says I need to unlock all classes first.

>>157111596
Horribly designed card with yogg-tier differences in outcomes for the RNG depending on matchup. It is so bad I almost suspect you already work for Team 5.

>>157111808
Well then do that you dumb shit
Just go fight the innkeeper under solo mode
beat all the classes to unlock them
then beat them all on expert mode to earn a bunch of free golds
complete quests to also earn golds
capische?

>>157110519
They actually are. You get one free for finishing the arena (even with an 0/3 record), and you get one arena playthrough free.

>>157111853
maybe i do mother fucker

>>157111853
the card is literally shit unless u are playing some god awful ctrl-vs ctrl matchup or some shit

Malchezaar in Control Warrior?

Pros:
>More cards so hard to fatigue
>Might grab something useful

Cons:
>Dilute cards actually wanted

>>157112306
worst card in the game

>>157112256
Yes, but a card that leaves one person mad regardless of outcome in a matchup is a badly designed card.
If it burns anyfin, you'll be happy and the other person will be cursing blizzard.
If it burns, I don't know, a humility or some dumb secret, then you will be cursing blizzard and the other person will be relieved.
No skill went into either outcome, and it left one player mad no matter what happens. Just like yogg, which you niggers love to bitch and moan about.

also it's a counter to combo decks, not control decks you retard. a badly designed counter.

>>157112306
Pros:
None

Cons:
Literally the worst card in the game

>>157112306
Malchezaar is a catch 22. More cards makes it easier to kill your opponent with fatigue damage, but 5 random minions tossed into your deck makes it much harder to actually stall your opponent to fatigue.

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Yes, I DO require your assistance.

>>157112812
>>157112368
Thats not poisoned blade or majordomo.

>>157112831
Correction: 5 random minions and a vanilla 5/6 for 5.

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Suggestions?

>>157113389
Put in the weapon that buffs your divine shield creatures and remove moroes and either barnes or 1 truesilver (i'm not entirely certain, but you NEED to have that weapon in this type of deck)

>>157113389
You should also probably try to put in blessing of kings but I'm not entirely sure what you would cut for it
actually
why do you have wild pyro, that shit will just kill your own board

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Pulled pic related, what do with it?

I run a pretty decent midrange totem shaman but I feel like WIIIIIINDSS doesn't fit in it, and I need haleazeal + elemental destruction for control shaman.

>>157113678
I kind of like Moroes and Barnes. What if I just cut both Truesilvers? Not like I need 4 weapons, right?

What's keeping you going in Shamanstone /hsg/? I can't even be bothered to finish my dailies now

>>157112460
its not even that, the only way it would be even remotely good is if it burnt anyfin or moonfire/living roots in maly deck, and even that would be very questionable

Hey guys, remember aggro Paladin with Divine Favor.

Man, that was so sick.

>>157113903
You're probably right. Truesilver is OP but so is the divine shield weapon in a divine shield deck, I would take the divine shield weapon over truesilver in it if you really want to keep moroes.

I'm just so annoyed by this game and losing to cards that are not even in peoples decks

>>157113961
You're right, but a card that can be randomly played at any point in the game and just RNG kill a combo deck on the spot with no real chance of counterplay does not belong in a card game.

It would be shit. It wouldn't see play. But the day it does, you're playing combolock and it burns your one PO out of all of your spells, you will feel very, very cheated. And nobody wants that in the game.

>>157113791
theres currently no place for alakir since rockbiter has been nerfed to the ground, sorry!

>>157106339
I really don't know what to remove in my decks to tech in a secret eater for this shit

>>157101606
BY FIRE BE TILTED

I want Divine Spirit/Inner Fire combo to be the focus of a Priest deck, but I'm having trouble deciding on core cards. Draw power/Deathrattle build (loot hoarders, controlling the board with tentacles of N'zoth and resing them or Doomsayers to curve into late game Nzoth line)? Spell Heavy Pyromancer / Priest of the Feast control? Just building a deck for a different class?

>>157113939
just play freeze mage fag

they only have a chance if they play rag

I have a decision I need help with /hsg/, I have 2900 dust, and a win 3 with Rogue daily I've had forever. I want to save as much as possible for the packs coming out and have already started saving gold, I can craft what I am missing for one of two decks.

Choice one: Malygos Druid. Pros: top tier 2 rn and pretty consistently top 5 decks last month, apparently pretty patrician. Cons being hella expensive and I'm horrified Malygos is a gigantic memecrafts and I already have Token


or Miracle Rogues Edwin and double Prep, which as we know is currently already a gigantic meme of a deck but I have everything else for it sans Xaril, even random tech leggos. I'd just be kind of hoping that Rogue doesn't stay in the gutter forever.

Is Yogg still good?

>tfw 6k dust
>tfw don't know what I want to craft with it
>tfw I don't want to regret whatever I do end up crafting
this is painful

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>>157115107

Golden Tirion

>>157115217
WELL MET

>>157114945
Toss him in a deck that's already slow and spell heavy like Malygos, and use him as a big red button if you're going to lose. He won't turn the game around as much as before, but even a 20-30% chance to win a game you would have otherwise lost is pretty good for a one-of.

>>157115217
WELL MET
and I would but I already have a normal Tirion and I already have golden paladin, so I don't really play paladin anymore

>>157114945
3 of the 4 past yoggs i've seen have won the game on the spot

they might as well just name it double flamestrike into dark bargain into call of the wild

>>157115107
You could be smart and save it for the next set. Or you could be cool and craft golden versions of every common and rare you use on a regular basis.

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>be playing mage as priest
>full control 4 minions about to win
>he drops MC tech
>steals my auchenai
>drops reno
>-26 heal
my fucking sides have transcended time and space lads

>>157115713
>You could be smart and save it for the next set.
Yeah looks like this is what I'll be doing. Maybe craft a Cabalists Tome or something.
>Or you could be cool and craft golden versions of every common and rare you use on a regular basis.
Nah, too jewish for that. Need muh dust for leggos and ebins and I don't have

One mana spellpower dude when?

>>157115217
WELL MET
I don't even run Tirion in my Anyfin anymore, and I think it's better off without him since the deck has no other hard removal targets anyways. People always mulligan against Nzothadin so they always have an answer to him

>>157114921
rogue

>>157116216
1 mana 1/0 spellpower would be perfectly fine.

>>157116634
1 mana 1/1

>>157116848

really made me think

>tfw should go to greece to buy a gf before they turn into new syria

>>157094695
>Zoolock unaffected
The loss of Imp Gang Boss will surely lead to Discozoolock taking a bigger piece of the pie, just as Renolock did from Handlock previously.

>>157118363

>tfw this is an indirect nerf to priest because it's the only class that can currently clear imp gang boss cleanly

>>157118478
Well Priest will still have low-attack targets in Zoolock, such as an >unbuffed Darkshire Councilman or Malcheezy's Imp if it ever takes off.

>>157118478
le book reading dragon

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Win
Lose
Win
Lose
Win
Lose
Win
"Heh greetings" - golden fedora warrior

I just want rank 15 with my meme deck dammit.

Can I disenchant one copy of Call of the wild or people still run two of those?

>>157118761
What's your meme, brother?

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Like with gally, the generated cards don't loop the effect.

Do you guys like it?

>>157118868
>card draw
>2 copies of win condition
pick one

>>157119094
The effect makes no sense. So you play the card, it does nothing, then you get a copy that costs 0 that you can play again for the actual effect? What is the point?

>>157116523
I'm just afraid Rogue will continually get worse. To be fair, Rogue is by far my least developed class aside from Priest and I think I even have more Priest core (heroics yo)

>>157119229

>What is the point
are you kidding, or do you really can't see how powerful it would be?

trying to climb through the lower ranks as control is hell but not for the reasons you would think, there's a shit load of fucking timmy decks like the resurrect priest I just went up against
>sylvannas
>cairne
>rag
>ysera
>Confessor
>Elise
>Double entomb
Like what the fuck are they doing, trying to target me the one guy playing control

>>157119094
FUN
AND
INTERACTIVE

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>play aggro freeze
>matched up against c'thun warrior
>brann into shieldbearer
>conceded
>requeue
>queue into the same goddamn c'thun warrior
>literal repeat of the last game

>>157119421
How powerful would it be? break it down for everyone.

>>157119094
I would be okay with this card if something like Loatheb existed.
As it is, it is broken as all hell.
Also breaks the game if you put it into Discolock.

>>157119421
It would literally make impossible for you to play cards.

>>157119472
>one guy playing control
lol

>>157119683
>play it
>play spells
>save up spells until you draw spellpower
>OTK with malygod or kobolds
wew that was hard

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>>157119683
I don't think I want to hear his reasoning anon, don't bait the OC fags to be retarded in the general. That's the same thing as being retarded.

>>157119595
>>play stupid shit
>>get fucked
yeah?

>>157119806
>beats midrange shaman to a pulp
>beats hunter
>beats rogue
>beats paladin
>beats all non-control decks
>can beat just about anything that isnt cthun control warrior
>stupid shit
so how's rank 20 treating you?

>>157119094
better sylvanas counter than majordomo

>>157119683

first example i thought of.

>It survives a turn
>Mage plays Antonio, and holds the zero mana copy.
>Plays it next turn and vomits a hand of low cost spells.

It allows you to dodge removal on key cards and make +10 mana turn at the cost of tempo on the previous ones.

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It's habbedig, boys

>>157119781
How many spells are you going to save up with it before it dies? What turns are you doing this with? What's going on with the board? Wouldn't you need to use a lot of the cards to help on the board on in pinches anyway? Isn't it an enormously telegraphed setup that would help the opponent play around it?

>>157119693

>Copies don't trigger the effect.

reading comprehension.

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>>157118874
Just reached it after curbstomping another fedora warrior with 3 sylvans followed by nzoth

>>157119909
>>It survives a turn
you're retarded because this is the worst example ever. a card that has to survive a turn to do anything is not good enough
that card is broken though
it's basically emperor except you get to choose the cards you discount and pay mana to do it
so just play it, then play frostbolt frostbolt icelance icelance the same turn. suddenly you have guaranteed lethal whenever you draw malygos. 8+8+9+9 = 34.

you can do the same thing with living roots, or swipe, or torches, or anything. actually it'd be extra silly in druid because of innervate.

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>>157119909
>It survives a turn

I think I found a problem, anon. That single step is the reason nobody plays bullshit like scaled nightmare or post nerf worgen.

>>157119854
You're the one getting shit on by the slowest deck in the meta. Get good you chicken rank shitter lmao

> 5 mana 5/5 bait removal at worse, win condition at best.

That is actually pretty good anon.

>>157120140
just realised you'd need the coin to do that full combo but you wouldn't need all of it anyway, you just need frostbolt frostbolt icelance, and then you use the last icelance for the floating mana when you play malygod.
>>157120005
have fun playing against 30+ damage without loatheb or armor. only class that could counter it would be warrior, all you'd need is stall. it's less setup than miracle rogue with way more OTK potential, and mage has stall for days.

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>>157120104

>thistle tea
>thistle tea x2

>>157120140
If you're going to do all that shit you may as well just play emperor. If you already have all your combo cards like that emperor does the same thing without showing your hand to the opponent.

>>157120176
>get good
>for losing a 90/10 favoured towards him matchup
are you retarded?

>>157119094
No, just another silly leeroy combo enabler

>>157120353
>90/10
>waaaaaahh it's never my fault
Yes, you are retarded.

>>157120164

>minions never survive beyond the turn they're played.

Nothing stops you from getting value on the same turn if you have remaining mana and can take the tempo loss.

>>157120336
You'd only need that card and 3 of the spells for the OTK, whilst with emperor, you need emperor and you need to hit all 5 combo pieces. You are retarded if you don't see how it would be stronger than emperor for this purpose. One of those situations is way more likely to happen than the other.

Even if that were the case, you could always play both for higher consistency.

>>157120104
Ethereal Peddler seems like an odd choice.

Wouldn't it be better N'zoth synergy to run Tomb Pillager?

>reynad saying on stream that shadowverse is better game than hearthstone again
What does he mean by this?

>>157120420
I see someone has never actually played freeze mage nor control warrior.

Good to know you're just an aggro or midrange shitter. have fun playing curvestone, I guess anything else would require too much brainpower for your feeble little mind. :^)

>>157120554

he means to convey the truth

>>157119991
>arcane golem
what the FUCK were the other two picks?
ancient watcher and angry chicken?

>>157120005
>play around 666 face damage from hand
how exactly
brann > loatheb?
loatheb > gang up?

>>157120554
That hearthstone is not a well designed game

>>157120579
Those are actually my two most played decks.

Keep the baseless accusations coming salty little bitch boy

>>157120493
You only need to hit frostbolt and 2 ice lances, anon. That's redickydonk damage to finish the opponent and still playable with malygos for 10 mana. Emperor does the exact job without showing the opponent your hand.

Who's retarded now?

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I realise this is 'too complex' for hearthstone but do you think this would be a good way to handle yogg I think it should still be a card that wins games

[Powers]
1.Destroy the board
2.Draw 5 cards
3.Deal 13 damage to the opponent
4.Heal/secrets

>>157120659

>play around 666 face damage from hand

Heh, greetings.

>>157120698
>26 damage is the same thing as 34

Still you, m8. You can also use that card for fireball + icelance, or torch + frostbolt, or torch + icelance + icelance. If you don't see the sheer combo potential, you are deluded.

I also did say you should play both emperor and that card in the same deck, but I guess you were too retarded to notice.

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>>157120739
BASED SPELL CATS

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>>157120659
Light Warden and some other piece of shit

>>157120554

I don't really care if SV was the world's greatest game. The weeb art style and mobile optimisation would make me never play it.

HS is childish but SV makes you look like a petulant manchild.

>>157119094

literally emperor replacement for new standard.

Mad autioneer value too

>>157120810
You were too retarded in general.

Ever.

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>>157120994
Pack was completely standard

>>157121003
not really you're projecting

>>157121098
>legendary

really famalam

>>157121003

>literally admiting to caring more about style than substance.

Sad really.

>>157121098
>whispers of the old gods pack
they really should let you fucking pick for 12 wins

>>157121215

I play dwarf fortress, I don't need good graphic but the anime is just too irritating.

It would be like driving a Ferrari painted in pink polka dots.

>But it's a Ferrari!

>>157121003

I hate HS aesthetics and art, yet I play it because it was a good game in the past, I'm sad to hear you can't see past the surface of a game anon

>>157121169
I meant the WotoG pack, not the rewards.
Aviana is p sweet, I'll probably meme with her for a few days and then give up.

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>>157120314
Its actually been the main reason i've been winning.
Having 2 extra of removal, taunt, healing or generators is great. Though 2 might be a stretch
>>157121003
You sound like a worse manchild than the weebs if you're too immature to handle fanservice and a different culture's animation styles.
However hs is more family friendly because of the lack of fanservice.
>>157120542
Tomb pillagers only great if youve got things that can abuse the coin (gadgetzan, teacher etc) which it isnt running. Since ive got at least 4 stolen cards (potentially more from tea or nzoth) peddler will give me more mana reduction in the long run.

>>157121338
>It would be like driving a Ferrari painted in pink polka dots

That would be baller as fuck

>>157121338
>It would be like driving a Ferrari painted in pink polka dots.
holyshit I want one

>>157121418

>Can't handle

You make it sound like a job. Why should I 'handle' something in my pleasure time? If it was blocks of text I'd be more likely to consider it. It's not even the women I find them pleasant enough. It's the general Japanese game art style. Can't stand it.

>>157121338

The analogy doesn't work because a big part of the value of a luxury car is status, and a bad paint job kills that.

>>157121656

>Status

Not really helping with the manchild comment anon.

>>157121563
Then simply say the art style is a turn off instead of projecting the idea that liking eastern art stylesor animation automatically makes you a manchild or weeaboo. Thats just as bad as the old perception of video gaming making you violent or the myth that tabletop games were somehow connected to witchcraft because normies couldent grasp the concept of lets pretend.

>>157121862
Pretending is for godless atheists.

>>157121418
Fair point. I admittedly didn't see the Funnel Cakes on the first glance, so my bad.

>>157121862

I said makes you look. That was a general comment. I forget that some of you don't see other people.

get the dream
>book
>historian
>intellect
>twilight drake

>he has execute
REEEE

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>tfw completing a quest, freeing up a slot by winning a game 1 minute before quests reset

>>157122147
Just don't tell people that you play it. Or get better friends who will care less about some weeb card game you play.

I'm sitting on 5k dust right now should I craft Freezecuck? All I really need is Thalnos + Alexstraza and one Ice Block. Is it a good investment if Thaurissan rotates out in half a year?

>>157122638
i mean youre crating 3 cards that dont rotate and can be put in multiple decks

>>157122638
Does the aggro freeze meme run Thaurissan?

>>157122702
>Thalnos
Actually used in multiple decks.
>Alex
I'll take it. Dragon and control. (like 5 decks in the whole game use alex, still multiple.)
>Ice block
Multiple decks?
It's not even used in reno mage.
No reason to craft it if Tharuissan rotates out so soon.

>>157122171
>Expecting fun when playing vs warrior

Dude, their whole job is to make sure no one is having fun.

>>157122894
is 400 dust really that big of a loss for you

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how do i make this deck even more aids

>>157123116
Deathwing for dank saves

>>157094695
control warrior will only get stronger

revenge is a weak card and bash is only ok

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I HAVE BEEN BLESSED!

>>157102843
opponent has to let this live if he wants his minions unsilenced though, i agree 0/5 is shit but it could be a good idea.

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Damn, I could have been anon from a few posts ago, too. And I already had a regular one.

the cheese prince is an arena top pick right?

>>157124995
Who? If you mean malch, yes.

>>157124995
he's no dr bum but yea

>>157125215
but he might be

>>157124995
No. He's a mid tier card below the likes of troggzor and illidan.

>>157120420
Are you fucking retarded?
There are bad matchups for every single deck and fedora warrior is exactly that for freeze mage. There's nothing you can do to burn past 20+ armour after alex unless you're playing the aggro variant and had an insane mana wyrm opening.

>>157120694
and how exactly do you manage to win consistently as freeze vs control warrior?

>>157125464
hit face with mana wyrm until he dies
>>157125356
>alex in current year
lmaooo

WHY DOES GNIMSH KEEP FINDING WORK DESPITE BEING SHIT AT EVERYTHING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>157125765
It's really weird how I can dislike someone because of their accent every time he talks it irks me

Is it down for anyone else?

>>157125859
Not for me

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>>157125765

>gnimsh and frodan will never, ever leave hs

>Coin Weblord T1
>Opponent looks confused and mouses over it for 5 seconds.

I love making moves like that when they clearly wanted to play a 2 mana battlecry.

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>lose every rng roll

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It never gets old.

This game needs a "Hurry up" emote

>>157126658
just threaten

>>157126658
>not multitasking

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Would it bee a waste to include ice barrier? I count on my board presence saving me health, often it's not enough

I want to bully Reynad

fuck shamans

>>157125859
works on my machine :-)

>>157125859
yeah can't get connected to bnet they said they are working on it

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>two friends quests
>no friends play hearthstone

H-help
First one who posts battletag gets 80g.

>>157126795
>implying I don't

It still gets annoying having to wait for the typical retarded c'thun warrior I'm up against figure out which of my minions he wants to hit

>>157124126
>control warrior will only get stronger
>when they lose justicar.
No. It will only ever get stronger by its opponents being weaker.

>>157127169
FrIkY#2960 @EU

>Pirate Warrior vs my Res Priest
>Pirate trades everytime he can instead of hitting my face
>I draw like shit and have to slowly make him go to fatigue.

I have no idea why this guy was still playing after turn 15 though.

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And he was so happy about his turn.

Watch and learn
SMOrc#21468
Americas
Please help.

>>157128117

rank 20 is pretty scary

>>157128380
Also have play a friend :)

are us servers down?

>>157129136
just you

>Priest vs Priest
>BLESSED BE THIS FUNNEL CAKE
>BLESSED BE THIS FUNNEL CAKE
>BLESSED BE THIS FUNNEL CAKE
>The game begins
>BLESSED BE THIS FUNNEL CAKE>BLESSED BE THIS FUNNEL CAKE
>BLESSED BE THIS FUNNEL CAKE
>BLESSED BE THIS FUNNEL CAKE
>BLESSED BE THIS FUNNEL CAKE>BLESSED BE THIS FUNNEL CAKE>BLESSED BE THIS FUNNEL CAKE

Fuck...

>>157129289
People should be happy you can't overheal in HS.

>>157129398

Heh Greetings

I have spectate quest, someone add me Kaiba1488#2995 EU.

Is there a list with infos about what cards are drawable from which pack?

>>157130897
Pretty much everywhere, but you can simply just use the client. At the bottom left corner, sort by set:

Classic packs - Classic cards
The Grand Tournament packs - The Grand Tournament cards
Whispers of the Old Gods packs - Old Gods cards
Blackrock Mountain, League of Explorers, and Karazhan - Adventures you can buy from the shop, possible with gold and money

wtf is wrong with twitch all the time, why does it always jsut load to a black screen

how can the site get worse?

>>157131224

>Twitch

Why would you even go there, it is as toxic as you can get.

>Half the stream covered with backslaps for subscribing
>Chat scrolls by too fast to read anything so people just spam meme faces.
>Adverts out the wazoo

Used to be better but it's just shit these days. They monetised it too much.

>>157131342
>Why would you even go there
shut up, dont even bother posting you contrarian hipster faggot

>>157131410

>Perfect demonstration of the target Twitch audience

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Does anyone have being getting only 40g quests lately?

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Am i surrounded by a bunch of 14 year old Eurofags right now?

>>157131443
>>157131342
>durr why would you go to a site about video games
>while posting on a site about video games
You are a retard

>nerf tuskarr
>midrange shaman is still the best deck in the game
Huh, really makes you question why they gave one deck the best weapons, removal, AoE, and minions in the game

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>>157131342
I fucking...what?

You do know that Twitch doesn't control the content right? That's like saying the TV manufacturer is at fault because of the shitty movie you just watched.

I agree that a lot of streamers are shitters - but there's plenty of comfy around. Lifecoach and Thijs are OK for a start, but there's plenty more, for everyone's taste.

You go to smaller streams if you're looking for a chat experience, although be prepared for a little cock sucking - small dudes / chicks want to get big on twitchbux ya feel?

>>157131224
>NA internet
works fine for me MEGALUL

>>157131592

This site is about video games yes. Twitch is about extracting as much money as possible. Gaming is secondary.

>Constantly have to dick suck subscribers.
>Have to give up half your screen to backslap subcribers.
>Paying money to ask questions...

>>157131629

By they I mean twitch streamers. I see why they do it, they need to live after all but compare Youtube to Twitch.

Youtube you have the usual 'comment, like and subscribe' meme and that's it. Twitch is far worse.

Streaming should be clear and use Patreon to get paid.

>>157131809
Australians truly are the greatest of shitposters

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>>157131856

>>157131553
Yep, school is out for 2 weeks in germany and probably some other countries currently.

>>157131856

>Australian...

U wot m8?

Somone redpill me on N'Zoth paladin please.

forsen1 forsen2
forsen3 forsen4

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>keep running into certain decks on ladder
>switch to a different deck to counter them
>suddenly stop queuing against the decks I'm countering
>continue to only get bad matchups
I'm 0-8 tonight and nothing I do is stopping it. Does Blizzard hate me?

>>157132036
it's like anyfin but with no burst

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T-thanks

>>157132120
No, you're insignificant to a multi-million dollar company. But I do hate you, if it's any condolence.

dead thread

>>157133309
ded game

>>157133309
dead game

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>>157133309
>>157133425
>>157133459
Post Zeriyah to save it!

>friends list completely fucking broken on both phone and PC

fuck this shit game mother fucker.

Literally nothing even shows up despite saying "6/21 online", even then it should show people that are offline, and looking at the bnet client on PC I can see people in game

>>157132120

Maybe you should.....................

git gud

Even when you are matched to a deck that counters yours you still have a 40% chance to win.

If you are going 0-8 then you are just a little piece of trash that has no idea how to play this game and probably can't even do basic math.

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Fun game

>>157134598
>pyromancer
>equality
>Dragon Paladin
Hmmmmmmmmmm

>>157134598
pyro concentration
rag next turn

>>157134940
weapon is at 6 attack, couldn't hover over it and take a screenshot the same turn

>>157134742
yes, what else are you supposed to do against aggro. Not like you're going to be ahead on board against zoo or shaman

>>157134940
>rag heals the book wyrm
assuming he doesn't die next turn

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>secret hunter vs secret murloc
>mysterious challenger turn 6
>dr boom turn 7
>tirion turn 8
>he ropes every turn
paladin is best

>>157135203
I'm sure you shouldn't run board nukes on a midrange deck

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>>157136048
>no turn 2 play
>midrange

maybe in a world where minibot and muster exist

>>157135943
>secret murloc
but why
murlocs are weak on curve and you never even get to turn 10

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Why this

Same thing if I launch it on PC too. I've tried logging out and closing/reopening

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>>157136210
It's been performing better than my other lists.
mirror'd a secret paladin and he added me after losing

>>157136358
I think you are getting banned and there was an error on blizzard side

>>157136358
All your friends unfriended you cause you suck

>>157136598
is that what happens when you get banned, you lose your friends list?

still works fine for overwatch

>>157137759
because bans are per game, not your entire account

did you do something worthy of getting banned
bot or threaten someone you played against