/hsg/

>shadowverse gaining numbers
>hearthstone losing numbers

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>>157185026
when will new content and nudes come out

>>157185227
december 7th

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Artfag looking to increase his portfolio here.
Gimme ideas for fanart so I can get popular thanks to the recognizable characters from somebody else's franchise.

pic ofc not related.

>>157185382
make nude valeera kissing nude jaina

>>157185382
slutty valeera art please

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WHAT IS THIS FUCKING MULLIGAN

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>People seriously talk shit about Shadowverse art direction when they have stuff like pic related in this game

>>157185516
that's pretty good

>>157185559
Aw this card used to give me boners before I saw the face close up.

>tfw no orc gf

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>>157185559
but there's also stuff like this

>>157185563

Not against Shaman it's not. Got rolled over.

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>>157185382
I want a pic of grom beating the shit out of illidian with bare hand.
If you actually make this one i'd love to see how it came out.

>>157185382
draw stuff like the Novice Engineer and Sorceress Apprentice art we got during beta from drawfriends

>>157185793
Fuck i meant gul'dan

>>157185689

That's not very impressive, honestly

But the major problem with HS its how they re-use assets from other games while not being consistent at all with quality. Stuff like Leeroy and Kill command still make me cringe

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>>157185989

Also, shit like this is just bad

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>>157185989
rhonin is great
and saboteur has one of my favorite arts and voice lines

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post cool cards that will never see play because Shaman.

>>157186162
Holy shit i thought saboteur was using helmet like a power ranger

>>157186237

I always hope to get one of these and a Nzoth whenever I golden monkey

inb4 someone posts the Kill Command and Leeroy artwork

>>157186237
It's not because of shaman you newfag.
If you've been around since TgT you'd know he didn't see play even when shaman was shit tier.

>>157186323
he didn't see play during Grand Tournament release because the meta was even more toxic.

piss off Thrall, we can't have nice things because of you and your kind.

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>>157185559

>anime
>a legitimate form of art

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>new expansion coming in a few months
>know that I shouldn't dust anything because of the meta change
>still wanna go on a dusting spree so I can play control shaman while it is minimally decent
Talk me out of it /hsg/

>>157186237
cucktrol cards are a disgrace to the best class

>>157186537
>implying i actually play anything but dragon paladin

>>157186618

How do you got that from what I said? Do you even reading comprehension?

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I just saved Priest

>Turn 1 Spirit Claws
>Turn 2 Spell Totem

>Taunt totem will make me lose the game
>Rolls taunt toem

This game isn't fun

>>157185382
Garrosh fucking Anduin while saying to Tyrande that she's next.

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>>157185989
>That's not very impressive, honestly
Infinitely more impressive than all the "art" of Shadowverse combined.

>>157186805

That wording doe

>>157187010
Got a shaman yesterday that roll nothing but taunt and spell damage, luckily I rolled good minions on evolve.

>>157186805
If by "Saved" you mean "Made it the next shaman",
So yes. You absolutley saved it.

>>157187208
Why is Golem so fucking pissed?

>>157187208
Totem golem looks like shit from far away but up close that's a beautiful card

>>157187483
I haves hoping that he would be a 8 mana lego with a great entrance animation and stats, so he posed properly.

>>157187208

In terms of composition and straight quality, Shadowverse art is really not behind HS, specially since HS is mostly badly done aside from a few examples, but that was not my point

>>157187623
>I haves hoping
He has*
I need some sleep.

>>157187625
Does Shadowvers have anything besides generic waifu #2234?

>>157187208
Shadowverse got hentai tiddies tho

>>157187483

His head is on fire bro

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>>157187756

It has a lot, cards that depict nature, beasts or dragons are specially well done

People just focus on the waifu shit because its easy to hate on

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>>157187518
Many HS cards have quite nice art, but you can't really see the details in the tiny card version in the game. Like the notCigar on this fella. Or the little toad next to it.

>>157188057
>easy to hate on waifu shit
>posts oversexualized homoerotic strongman instead
Shadowshitters need to go back to their own thread.

Oh, wait...

I need to fit an adequate answer to Thunderbluff Valiant into my midrange beast druid deck. Any suggestions?

>>157188057
I'm into manly tights, but that shit is just awful.

>>157188217
Mukla's champion or whatever it's called.

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>>157188193

I don't even play that game, but seeing people hate Shadowverse because of its art while they play HS triggers me

I kinda feel like I've outgrown HS. It's become too boring for me.

Should I move to MTG Online? The full version I mean no the steam f2p

>>157188307
>>157188217
>Mukla's champion or whatever it's called.
Wait, no. I misread your post.
Naturalize or the other card that kills the enemy minion unconditionally and gives him a random card, which is the card he needs 90% of the times.

>>157188404
That's Mulch. Naturalize draws your opponent 2 cards.

>>157188217
the answer is having boar control or aoe, so u are screwed

>>157188376

Play the physical version, MTGO is just for the hardest of cores and it takes a lot of time getting used to it

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>>157188327
>implying Hearthstone doesn't have top tier art
come on guy. there are some whiffs here and there but overall it's high quality. it's no Magic, but it's better than Shadowshit waifu pedophilia garbage.

>>157188404
You mean Mulch? Naturalize gives your opponent two card draws which is not a good thing to give a shaman.

>>157188459
No one plays MTG here

>>157186720
You probably play the shitty controlly cuck version with the little discover bitch instead of the glorious midrange variants.

>>157188542

A LOT of people in this general play MTG, last week we had a thread where it consisted mostly of mtg talk and a dude who wanted to become a trap

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>>157188327

>hating on perfectly fine art

What's your problem with this one? That it does not depict generic moeblob garbage?

Jesus, weebs really are a waste of life.

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>WHO AM I?

So in the end, who is this guy?

>>157188584
I do play midrange tho.

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>>157188739
I agree HS art is pretty garbage in general but that is a decent one.

>tfw HS will never have art as good as MTG

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>>157188739
>thigh gap

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>>157188492

It's easy getting attached to the good art and not realizing how much shit there is

>>157188739

Flames look like shit, proportions are all out of place, what the fuck are those hips, what is background, tentacles lack a lot of detail and the composition is really bad

Again, I do not play Shadowverse, nor do I like anime

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>go all in against a Rogue
>spends 6 mana to deal 2 damage to all my minions
>doesn't even kill them
>doesn't even follow up with a good weapon
hahahhaahhahaha

>"I hate shadowverse art because its full of female characters!!"
Can you get anymore retarded?

how many copies of holy nova, excavated evil and light bomb do i run in wild?
one of each one?

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post cards that only you own

>mirror match against druid
>he innervated out a teacher on turn 2
>stuck at 3 mana
>he proceeded to get a board of 4/6 and 6 2/2s on turn 3

Aside from Mulch, what could I ever do to stop that? Seriously, Innervate is a broken shit.

>>157186618
Meme on anime all you want m8. Guys like Shigenori Soejima put 90% of hearthstone's in the dumpster.

>>157189792

Fast mana/fast cheating out of creatures has been broken in every card game that existed since 1994, nice seeing that blizzard learned from other people mistakes

Why is shaman considered more cancer than druid?

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>some anon told me argus in n'zoth rogue was suspect

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW :^)

>>157188956
Considering a good chunk of the art is from the WoW tcg which wasn't even printed by Blizz it's not a surprise a lot of the art is shit. Upper Deck was notorious for paying like absolute shit( like 120 USD per card which is awful rate)

>>157190112
because it is more powerful and is 50% of the ladder

>>157189792
>>157189931

With the Ancient of Lore nerf, innervate isnt nearly as broken as it used to be.

>>157190291

innervate helps for going wide rather than tall in this meta. with no dr. boom, there's nothing sticky to innervate out.

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How how do you build a Renolock these days? Combo? N'Zoth?

>>157190112
basically this >>157190258.

>>157190291
innervate will always be broken and will limit design space as long as it exists
every time you design a druid or neutral card you have to think about how it interacts with innervate

>>157186237
>anub'arak
>never see play because shaman
more like never see play because of rogue
valeera is not suited to midrange or classic control
we will never be able to just drop a minion on turn 9 without getting killed
that said, he's glorious against warrior and priest

>>157191152
>will limit design space as long as it exists

This is why making classic evergreen is so fucking stupid

They will always need to create cards taking classic in consideration. They can't even depower creep the set, because anything that's weaker statted than classic will create a cryout

Scamming kids on reddit for 80 gold quests is so much fun.

>>157191152
>every time you design a druid or neutral card you have to think about how it interacts with innervate
no you don't

Need someone to watch for quest.

This game feels so rigged. I can see why shadowverse is getting more popular now

>>157190780

I didnt mean "tall" as you say; I meant without the card draw to back it, innervate becomes even more of a potential liability now than it used to be.

>>157191152

Well yeah. Mana ramping is basically what defines the Druid class in this game.

>>157191801
post battletag and region

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>>157192080
NA

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>>157191557
>t. ben brode

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Kinda feel guilty. Even if he had the clear I was ready with more insane shit.

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>>157188739
I don't play Shadowverse but just googling on the newest expansion already gives me art that are multitudes better than this.

>using generic moeblob garbage as an argument when there are also cool knight dudes and monsters.

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>drafted 4 firelands portals

how many wins?

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>stuck at rank 23 because of bad rng
AHHHHH

>>157192363
every card in the game interacts with innervate you fucking fool

"design space" is just a meme

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>>157192691
>because of bad rng

>>157192704
>"design space" is just a meme

Hahahahahahahahahaha, its specially funny since HS is already suffering from having small design space aside from RANDUM

>>157192691

>stuck at rank 23

I'm pretty sure it's not the RNG that's bad.

>>157192691
>rank 23
>bad rng

There's more issues than just that if you're only at 23.

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>>157192557

I wish I could get a good res of Mordecai, his art is awesome, but you know, apparently SV only has weeb art XDXD and people on this thread only play games with good and serious art like HS

>>157192062
Speaking of ramp..

Is it possible to build a Ramp Druid in the style of M:tG? With early stall cards along the lines of Doomsayer and Healing Touch then winning the late game or are aggressive strats just too dominant right now.

Alternatively, can armor warrior do something similar?

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>>157192704
>every card in the game interacts with innervate you fucking fool
guess what, dumbass
that's the point

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>>157193159

The only "good" ramp druid there is astral druid, and even then its a meme

Ramp works weirdly in this game since you are guaranteed increase in mana every turn unlike mtg

>>157193159
there is no point
but not because of aggro
because of malygos
>drop big minions
>insta-kill the opponent
which of these sounds better to you

>>157193254

This art is phenomenal.

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>reynad still complaining about losing to shaman
>while playing list shown in pic

Uhhhhhhh.....

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>>157188956

I still impressed by the new Emrakul art.

>>157193121
Not sure if Shadowverse give you a bigger look at the card art, is this any better? Click on the link below the picture for bigger images. http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/d/%8e%bd%8e%b9%8e%d9%8e%c4%8e%dd%8e%c3%8e%de%8e%ad%8e%b4%8e%d8%8e%bd%8e%c4%20%28SS%8e%da%8e%b1%29

>>157192691
Please get Shieldbearer rank at least before complaining about RNG my dude.

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>>157193958

Yeah, thanks for the effort anon, but I wish I could get at least stuff like 800 x 600. Its a shame, there's some great art in the game

>>157193798
Eldritch moon had some fucking top tier art

>>157193693
Can noodle go a day without complaining?

>>157193693
literally what
how is that playable
how do you win

i ran some arcane blood patron while it lasted but it's hopeless now
we just don't have any win conditions left

>>157193798
damn that makes c'thun look pretty gay

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>all these cards got either nerfed or rotated out
>you will never cuck warriors with mid pally again

>>157195053
>big edwin never dies anymore
feels great

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Arena is a joke.

>Fandral
>Thalnos
>Twin Emps
>Harrison Jones
>Barnes

>Literally some of the most irrelevant characters to feature in Warcraft (except arguably Fandral)
>Some of the most ubiquitous and powerful cards in all of Hearthstone

Care to explain this?

>>157195827
don't forget about the good doctor

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>>157195827

Lore powerlevels never translate well into card powerlevel

Just because a character is strong in the lore doesn't mean he will be powerful in the cardgame, and vice-versa

Just look at good ol' Nozdormu

>>157191152

This is the reason why journey below is good. There are a ton of situational deathrattles you can pull from it to suit the opponent. closest thing to a sideboard in this game.
warriors hate anub

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Hi there, /hsg/. Here's my Reno deck that I've been revising for a bit since Karazhan's release. It serves fairly well against both Aggro and Control matchups.

Equality Combos:
>Wild Pyromancer
>Consecration
>Avenging Wrath
>Corrupted Seer

Draw:
>Doomsayer + Solemn Vigil
>Equality Combo + Solemn Vigil
>Azure Drake
>*Ivory Knight
>The Curator
>Lay on Hands
>*Ysera

Sustain:
>Forbidden Healing
>Truesilver Champion
>Tuskarr Jouster
>Ivory Knight
>Lay on Hands
>RENO

The only duplicates are Equality. Reno is very simple to pull off.

Other Notable Combos:
>Finley + Justicar Trueheart: Go for Warrior or Priest hero power for late game.
>Corrupted Seer will not clear your Murlocs. This makes Murloc Knight effective for board control.
>Emperor Thaurissan to make playing your more expensive cards easier
>Play N'Zoth when both Sylvanas and Tirion have died.
>Brann

A good deck for those who want a reasonable winrate against most decks.

>>157195827
>fandral
yeah ill take that
>thalnos
only used in like 2 decks, and not even that strong
>twin emps
only used in one archtype, and not even a win condition
>harrison
barely even used these days by other deck than control warrior and some variants of midrange shaman.
>barnes
only used in hunter and some variants of midrange shaman

on the other hand
>alex, super important in lore
used in every control deck, and most dragon decks.
>antonidas, once again, super important for the lore
used in every single mage deck.
>cthun
has a whole archtype revolving around him.
>grom
used in every single warrior deck
>ragnaros
can be teched into every non-aggro deck
>sylvanas
same as rag

I do agree that there are some legendaries that are very unimportant characters in lore, and are super powerful in hearthstone and vice versa, but you just gave the wrong examples.

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Can a nigga get a rate?

If Justicar interaction with Warlock was draw 2 cards, pay 2hp, would it be used, or would it be just a slow win more card?

>>157196680
the barnes-y'shaarj combo is arguably the most ridiculous lore-wise

>>157196684

This may not be good against control decks, but its retardly powerful against aggro and zoo decks, like strong to the point to shutting them down for 4 turns, on a single card

Think about that for a second

>>157196680

Twin emps are as important in cthun decks as the fucking cthun.

Thalnos is only used in a couple decks, one of which is super popular.

Barnes is used in all decks with deathrattles, with are hunter and nzoths archtype.

>>157196684
Bit undercosted from my eyes but it's an interesting idea.

>>157195827
>>157196680
But Fandral is actually really strong in the lore, if not for Malfurion and Tyrande he probably would have been the Night Elf faction leader.

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Is Yogg bad or not?

Has anyone done the math yet?

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>>157196680
>>thalnos
>only used in like 2 decks, and not even that strong

>>157196898

Yeah, this is terribly unbalanced.

Better print it as a 5 mana card for warriors.

>>157196925
>if not for Malfurion and Tyrande he probably would have been the Night Elf faction leader.

kek he couldn't even lead his son into not dying to some bugs

>>157196684
>doesn't go face

into the trash it goes.webm

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>>157196986

Nah, its great

>>157196986

It is terrible now.

>>157196986

I've only seen one bad yogg so far since nerf

>>157197026
Thalnos is shit and extremely situational compared to most core cards

>>157197225

Not that other guy, but you're an idiot, for what should be obvious reasons.

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>>157197225

>>157197328
>>157197335
>2 mana 1/1
>DUR SO GUD I C PRO STRIMMER USE IT

K.

>>157197441

Anon, Thalnos is one of the most overstated cards in the game, being a 1/1 doesn't change that

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>>157197225
>None shall pass

>>157197543
Most overstated card in the game? More like overRATED card in the game.

>>157197441
if only this 2 mana 1/1 had other abilities

>>157197619
that would be sylvanas

>>157197619

Sure anon, I'm sorry, I didn't noticed you were one of THOSE kind of people. Yeah yeah, sure, its extremely overrated, you're right

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>>157197769
hehe

>>157197441
topkek shieldbearers

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I hit Legend with this ONE SIMPLE little trick!

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5 firelands 2 fireball. Is this 12-0 material????

should I craft nzoth or yogg

>>157199126
nothing is 12-0 material unless you get a sufficiently good bracket
anything is 12-0 material if you get a sufficiently good bracket

>Play games in casual
>don't have to worry that losing will fuck up my rank
>finally enjoy game without needing to win every match
>last match got two reliquaries at 9/9 which made enemy rogue concede

Feels good man

Make murlocs great again

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>>157199616
with this

>Got 320 gold today

Wew lad.

>>157199710

>0 mana drawing
>Potentially drawing 2~3 for 0

I never critique OC stuff, but holy shit that's retarded

>>157200147
for a murloc deck without murkeyes? wouldnt even see play

>>157201636
shifter faggot.

>>157201636
1 mana 1/1 become 400 dust

>>157200275

Meh, standard is shit.

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>>157201636

What deck beats freeze mage?

>>157202165
control warrior vs freeze mage is the most one sided matchup in the game
the mage simply can't win without antonidas or malygos which most of them don't run and even with them the warrior is still massively favored

>>157202165
face hunter with flare

>>157202165
combo druid
wait....

>>157200147
The catch is that you have to play a bunch of shitty murlocs first, and you'll be drawing more shitty murlocs.

I really hate how blizz added everyfin without actually testing it.
Murloc shaman isn't remotely playable unless you can finley into life tap on turn 1.
Which sucks because it's one of the only fun aggro decks.

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>>157202679
>play a bunch of shitty card to gain OP effect

Isn't that what the streamer said as they disses "WHO AM I!?"

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>>157201727
I've had the worst pulls from whispers, dude. The only legends I've pulled are 2 shifter zerus, 2 yoggs, cho'gall and huhuran

At least yogg was nerfed, so I appreciate the dust. Still pretty shit overall.

>>157203397
>shifter zerus
I actually laughed when I pulled that. I'm not even mad at all. Maybe I would have been if I pulled a dupe though.

>>157203295
The secrets are powerful when you get 5 of them at once for free with one card. The murlocs are still shitty after you've drawn the cards and their shittiness makes the setup to drawing cards harder.

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>>157203295

I love that every time blizz tries to push an archetype they are very subtle about it, just like with Totemic and Thing from Below

>>157203532
Believe it or not, Zerus is actually not that bad. It's just not that great either, mostly because it's absolutely worthless when you're counting on a topdeck. I think if it still transformed every turn while it was in your deck it might actually see some fringe play.

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>>157203781

>Put Shifter in the deck for the memes
>It becomes Tirion on your turn 7
>Proceeds to turn into wisp and low drops on subsequent turns

Every time

>>157203781
The only decks that can survive long enough to get good value out of him are too reactive to take advantage of him.

I've tried, I still play him in my janky reno warlock decks, but I won't pretend that he's not one of the worst cards in my deck.

He's not the worst because holy fuck are Warlock spells abysmal.

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That's it fuck shaman no one's running earth shock or flame juggler so I'm going to fucking try this as the only counter to fucking totem golem(which is not even a counter), the only problem is that now they have spirit claws Oh well fuck my life looks like even though i'm not a control deck i'm running fucking doomsayer good fucking game brode :))))

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>>157203892

this happens way too often

>>157204227
There's absolutely no cards in Shamans that can kill that, all your other minions, and summon a random 1 drop.

You should definitely do it.

Why don't you guys play MTG using XMage?

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>>157204227
>>157204227
boy do i have a card for you, it not only counters totem golem but also prevents them from playing a minion on turn 3

>>157202436
this

>>157203295
This one isn't absurd: murlocs have to be drawn and played first, no body, and no immediate impact
think more cloaked huntress than mysterious challenger
and "neptulon's favor" is a reference to divine favor after all

>>157204028
But the reason he's the worst is because he's a shit topdeck, right? Like, if he could come off the top of your deck as a corrupted seer he'd at least stand a chance of being clutch.

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>>157204408
really well read.

>>157204591
I agree, but also he could be any of the good bombs that I cut to put him in and the only thing I'd often miss out on is the ability to pull from other classes.

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>>157204404

But I do play mtg, printed mtg. I only come here after I do daily quests every 3 days then start complaining about how shitty HS

HS needs a lower mana curve

>>157204935

HS needs to depowercreep a little, but first they need to get rid of the fucking classic set being evergreen

Why is freeze mage so cancerous? I literally get this out early and its been nothing but build up because freeze, freeze, life can't be dropped below 0 freeze, life can't be dropped below zero, ice shard to the face for 3 then finish me off with3 fucking fireballs.

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secret cancer had a way of thinning their deck to draw their late game on curve, cancer hunter has no card draw and has call of the skill everytime, how is this possible?

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>>157205094
Forgot my board picture.

>>157205094
run anti secret tech and go face

>>157205210
>secret hunter has all of his secrets in hand every time they drop that fucking secrets cost 0 card
I just surrender at that point.

>>157205212
There's no excuse not to run kezan mystic in your deck

>>157205224
>>157205212
What should I throw in my miracle rogue deck then? Should I take out a from below for something else? I only use it for an extra creature as a fail safe, that and it costs 1 mama

>>157205036
They'd probably have to give some sort of dust refund or something since they've already told people it will be forever.

It's not happening, even though it should, because Blizz is actually the most Jewish dev in existence.

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>life has many possibilities on the toad to gold

>>157205310
>>157205378
Appreciate it, forgot that card exists. I was using discover a deathrattle card as a placeholder.

>>157205378
From below helps for other tech, and is a spell that nets a cantrip with auctioneer to use to draw Kezan Mystic (or eater of secrets if you see lots of hunters too), so it might be worth keeping

I would chuck one of your less important minions since they just get blasted anyway

>>157205715
I'll probably take out an si agent since I run Barnes. I rarely use them with all the zoo and secret decks recently. Only creatures I run are auctioneers, barnes, Edward, adventurers, drakes, pillagers and agents. Made it to rank 9 last season with this deck but I can't even get out of 15 this season.

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you guys wanna guess?

>>157205948

Thrillhaus

>>157205948
Milhouse get

>>157205948
WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDS

>>157205981
>>157205984
>>157205948

my first dupe. turning her into harrison or thanos. don't know yet

>>157205981
>>157205984

This reminds me that when I started playing my first leggo was Nozdormu, than a Cho and then a Nat Pagle

>>157206113
My first was jaraxxus and I didn't pull another for like two years

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damn, forgot pic

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>Scrounge up 150 coins
>Do arena
>Alright, this deck should do pretty good!
>Go 2-3

>just unpacked malygos
>he's cancer again
feelsbadman

>>157206271
Im tempted to just disenchant mine but I feel like I might regret it later.

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>>157206021

Alakir is a good card, but only when golden. Here is my rank for proof.

>>157206405
That feel when alakir into fury totem.
Shame rock biter got a slight Nerf. He's just overall a gr8 card for a class legendary. Maybe one mana less. Considering paladin gets a fucking taunt, divine shield 6 6 that gives them a weapon for 6 mana

>>157206647
>>157206692
Well I was wrong about the cost oh well
Forget what I said.

What's the most broken card in the game?

>>157206405
Is shaman dominating wild too?

>>157206768

No

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>>157206647

You mean this feeling? Yes. Yes it is a good feeling.

>flametongue

>>157206742
But anon, that wasn't my pic's purpose

>>157193254

This is pretty much better than any art in HS or SV

Man, Shaman's a lot of fun when you don't play aggro or midrange. It sucks that any other deck you make is like 1000x worse than those.

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>>157207036
Watch your back.

>>157206768

If by "dominating" you mean "the hero/deck that gets played the most" then no. I've no stats or anything but thats probably going to be Paladin for Wild.

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I've got to take it right? I have 9 warlock card...

>>157207823
i didnt do it

>>157207365

OK...I will.

>Have flamestrike ready
>Still want him to trade with huffer because jesus fuck why would they let a card push face damage and build board presence at the same time

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NEW EXPANSION WHEN

>>157205094
i hate that mid shaman has single-handedly brought freeze mage back into the meta
slogging through a ladder full of VERSUS THRALL is bad enough
now i gotta sit through freeze solitaire games that make shaman look downright fun
like some other anon said, aggro freeze is a control deck because it controls my patience for this fucking game

>>157206405
wait, wild? Post dick

>>157207337
i know that fucking feel, man. they had to over-buff the most goddamn boring builds when shaman has so much wombo shit available
ancestral spirit, windfury, bloodlust, etc, you can do so much with it

>only tempo mages for 6 games fucking straight
>they all have flame waker, coin, and wyrm in their opening hand

wtf. i switch to hunter with a deck to counter shaman fags and this is what i get. not to mention i didn't get those opening hands when i played tempo mage. WOW, my 7th is another mage

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This card is pretty.

>>157209084
The midrangey Shaman stuff is so broken that you can make janky builds of it and still win against everything but Shaman and Freeze.

I went 14-8 with Reno Dragon Shaman today around rank 5, with 7 of my losses and 5 of my wins against standard midrange shaman.

I was just trying to find more Reno decks besides Mage and Warlock that work since I want to have some fun before the best set they'll ever make rotates out, even if the meta is so utter shit right now.

>>157209474

But anon, shadowverse only has weeby art and waifu pandering, it only has shitty art!

>>157209474
Pretty shit

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>>157209594
also tried that, but it's hard to find a real win condition in the endgame
winds aside, the class cards top out at 6
and there's just not enough synergy for nzoth
or enough spells for giants
had some luck with malygos but just not enough
i miss this card so bad

>>157209651
Exception doesn't prove the rule.

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>>157209702

Yeah, I forgot, the cold strict rule that Shadowverse only has weeby art, sorry

What makes this even more fun is that I don't even play the fucking game, but being devil's advocate is fun against narrow minded people

>kripp getting giggly with thijs

CUTE

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>>157210210
>>157209865

Even replied to the wrong post, this general man

On the other hand, here at HS we only have the most serious and avant-garde pieces of art!

Man, look at those brushes, so well put together

>>157210210
That's nice, but for every non-fapbait art you post, I can post 10 that are.

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Name literally 1 early game option I can include that's not doomsayer

>>157210490
I swear /hsg/ is stricter about lewd stuff than most Catholic monasteries.

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>>157210490

The discussion started with people stating that HS had all around superior executed art than shadowverse, being more impressive, while SV consists only of moeblobs

>>157210623
There are a half dozen, and you're not running any of them. Are you sure you know what you want your deck to be?

>>157210724
They both suck. Hearthstones is generic doesn't really try while SV is designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator for sales. Pick your poison.

>>157210327
lewd

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>>157210794

This is what I been getting at

If you can recognize HS sucks, thats, its ok, but shitting on Shadowverse while saying HS has amazing art is pure lunacy

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Why do people pronounce "Y'Shaarj as "yah-sha-raj? From the spelling it clearly should be "ee-sharge" or "yeh-sharge"

>>157210994
because It rolls off the tongue easier

>>157210994
I pronounce it as "shit".

>>157211102
So that's just how players pronounce it? Not the pronunciation they use in the games?

>>157210994
>>157211203
Because that's how blizzard says it's pronounced
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20079873/whispers-of-the-old-gods-the-entourage-of-yshaarj-3-31-2016

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3 weeks until Blizzcon and we get to see what meme shit Blizzard has cooked up next

>>157211274
Graveyard mechanics inc

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I found out how to make Amazon believe that I have an US card and I got my Tyrande code.

Can someone help me to cancel my Amazon prime in order to renew it and start handling out codes for the general?

Not matter how many times I cancel it I get returned to the prime screen and everything is normal

>>157211292

sauce?

>>157211337
His ass.

There better be a new key word though

So, how exactly does a druid tech against midrange shaman?

>>157211292
we already have graveyard mechanics

>>157211401
Spell damage for swipe or the meme option starfall.

>>157211442

No we don't

Mechanics that interact with minions that died is not having a graveyard mechanic. Ressurect, anyfin and other cards are worded specifically in a way to not knowledge the existence of a graveyard

>>157210623
1. Another blackwing. Midrange decks must curve out. No one-ofs in your curve, dammit.
2. Faerie dragons.
3. Thalnos. Rarely a bad idea in mage.
4. Try fallen hero if you're using coldarra anyway. I've seen a few mages running with it lately. 2 drop in a pinch, combo later on.

And let's be honest here. Frostbolt or coin>frostbolt are going to be your turn 1/2 a lot of the time.

>>157211562
I think he was talking about doomcaller and C'thun.

"wherever it is" has to mean it's somewhere, and that somewhere has to be a graveyard, even if they don't specifically spell it out.

New adventure is rumored to be Pandaria based given the half-hill card back for November.

In all likelihood we'll probably see some sort of "seed" card or effect.

>>157211562
Showing the graveyard, or even calling it a graveyard are not necessary to have graveyard mechanics, which you indeed managed to name.

I doubt they'd pass on the chance to bring in Chen, Li Li and some random Beer Elemental too

>>157211909
>promoting alcohol in a children's card game
Disgusting, actually.

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>>157211745

The "wherever it is" its a clause for the buffing, specially since its in all c'thun minions and not only on Doomcaller.

Doomcaller says "If its dead" to work, and minions dying is in the game, a graveyard is not

>>157211841

Dude, resurrecting a minion isn't having a graveyard focused mechanic

Now, if hearthstone had something like threshold from magic for example, where it counted cards in your graveyard, or cards with flashback for example, now THOSE are graveyard mechanics

Imagine if we had something like a weapon that got stronger with the more weapons you had in your graveyard, or a spell that would trigger again from the graveyard next turn.

>>157212045
imagine a minion that cast a random spell for every spell in your graveyard
or a minion that summoned copies of deathrattle minions from your graveyard

now those would be graveyard mechanics
fact is, hearthstone already has graveyard mechanics and what you're saying is a classic no true scotsman fallacy.

>go from 19 to 12 with a couple of losses on dragon warrior
>lose successively to discolock twice, pirate, secrethunt, priest and fucking mage, last 2 because shitty curve
>fall back to 13
it's like blizzard wants me to switch deck, but I don't fucking want to play control
absolutely ugly

>>157212045
>anyfin
>have to keep track of how many and which murlocs are in both player's graveyards
>no graveyard mechanic

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>>157212045
Hearthstone has threshold. Namely yogg and nzoth, as they care about how many times you did X

>>157212045
hearthstone has full-on graveyard mechanics
when i tactically blow my hex/poly early on a priest's minion, i'm interacting with their graveyard
when i avoid killing a pally's murlocs on a late turn i'm trying to keep their graveyard empty
and when i discover cards with a nzoth deck i'm weighing how each would look in my graveyard

it's really goddamn stupid that we can't see our graveyards yet when entire archetypes are built around summoning cards from it

>>157212215
>>157212271

I think you guys are right and wrong, but no matter how many times I try to explain what is having a truly focused graveyard mechanic is you guys will just say "But this card!"

HS will always fall short because of Team 5 trying to avoid making the game complicated

>>157212417
or maybe it is you who is wrong, and not everyone else. fucking retarded yuro mtg moron cunt

>>157212512

Always nice when you try to have an argument going on and people start to swear, but sure anon, if that makes you feel smart go ahead and think that's how things are

What most of you are mistaking for graveyard mechanics are mechanics that interact with cards dying or being cast, but hey, I already decided that I can't convince you guys

i hate mtg cunts so much

what is it about that game that makes everyone who plays it a fucking moron

>>157212739

They are literally devil spawns anon, don't trust them and their elusive words!

>>157212645
>s-sure it w-works like a graveyard
>B-BUT THE WORD "GRAVEYARD" IS NOT USED S-SO IT'S NOT A G-G-GRAVEYARD
end yourself subhuman moron

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>>157212645
tbf I completely understand where you are coming from anon. Cards in this game are simply played and disappear, or die and disappear but the fact that they were played, can die, or can be interacted with if they die does not make a graveyard/discard pile exist in the game. I do think it is a trope of physical card games however but how hard would it be to have a running simplified icon list of cards that have been played?

However I think it may be unneeded and mostly cosmetic unless they introduce some sort of banish zone/ keyword which is starting to get into the too confusing territory for people who can't into card games.

>>157212645
How about we just agree that we have cards that interact with graveyards in some way, but it could be more in number or complexity.

But that would require us to somehow check what's in our graveyard without third party programs, and we all know that's not going to happen.

>>157212842
*cards that have been played and died for each player instead of the nonscrollable shit list?

2high

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>turn 2 10/10
I guess that's what i get for playing shaman.

>>157212836

Damn, you got me man, you're right

I'm going to kill myself. Gonna go to /b/ and livestream it, I hope you watch it!

kill all yuros

and mtg babbs

>>157212417
>HS will always fall short because of Team 5 trying to avoid making the game complicated
yes, that's right
that's why we won't have instant spells, discards and real control
(however what they did with secrets is better than nothing compared to often mentioned shadowverse)
but your example of Team 5 oversimplifying the game is wrong, at least since WoTG

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>>157212842
>unless they introduce some sort of banish zone/ keyword
One of the few good things about Hearthstone is we don't have to deal with this type of shit.
Yet.

>>157212914

Epic!

imagine a world with no yurop

thankfully in a hundred or so years they will all be bred out of existence by the sandniggers they love so much

>>157211274
3 more weeks until a glimmer of hope that this shit Wotog meta will change

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>>157212970
>>157212914
>>157212512

when did this turn into /pol/ diet?

>implying it's not just one retarded person

>>157212956
Yeah, but I could definitely go for a way to get around deathrattle taunt/annoying minions efficiently. Especially since Silence died.

weebverse on pc when

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>>157212896

>turn 3 Hex

>start game with coin and renounce darkness

The light has spoken

>tfw you're drunk at 9am before class and have a really fun freeze vs renomage match and you win and add the guy afterwards and he doesn't accept
ArhRafaam that was fun. I promise I won't shittalk, it was brutal that your Reno was in bottom 10.

>rank 10
>literally everyone has legend cardback

Is it time for a new one? it's literally more common than most of the older seasonal cardbacks

>>157213547
if you don't use the pandaria back you might as well uninstall

>>157213547

The bigger problem for me is that its really dull. There are so many cool cardbacks that don't see a lot of light

>>157213179
It runs perfectly on an emulator. Even better than on my phone.

>>157213547
Only autists still play, and autists have made legend at some point. Blizz should remove legend cardback for everyone that did it with Undertaker hunter or Secret pala though. I made legend in 8 hours from rank 7 with secret pala because I wanted legend that season. Easiest climb of my life, and from what I hear undertaker hunter was even worse.

>>157213047
jews are not actually lizards

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>>157212645
See >>157212383. There are a bunch of cards that interact with the set of all cards that have been destroyed while on the respective player's side of the field.
We use the term "graveyard" for that set so we don't have to type that shit out every time we talk about it.

>>157212417
>>157212842
>>157212947
the stupid part is that they fucked this up too
if you're a casual player or a dumbass, which would you rather have:
>click "show graveyard" button
or
>keep track of both player's graveyards in your head for the entire game
brode picked the LESS idiot-friendly option in this case

>start arena
>warlock, hunter or priest
Fuck

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you guys ever play WoW?

look who i found.

>>157213758
I used to take priest or warlock a lot in arena up until BRM. I averaged about 6.5 with both of them. Now arena is mage or lose from the little I've played of it since LoE.

>>157213797
>not having vivid memories of rogues murdering you on your way to kill this jackass while trying to level
Did you even play during TBC? Also TBC raids were amazing, WotLK really let me down with TotC.

>>157213883
i only started play recently. the movie got me into it.

>>157214015
>i only started play recently. the movie got me into it

That's a first

>>157213689
less idiot friendly but also less confusing

>>157214015
I think you are the only person on the planet that feels that way. If they aren't all dead you should really play private server for vanilla tbc and wotlk (depending on how autistic you are and how much time you have). It's a different world, although I might be projecting my feelings of wonder as a kid playing it onto you. Anyway enjoy the game so long as you're not a DK or a monk or whatever new bullshit they'e created.

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Need a rogue deck for quests. Only have enough dust for either thalnos or cleef. (I have most other classic leggos) What do?

>>157214308
>needing legendary to win

>>157214308
Play Burgle Rogue and fuck around in wild casual while having fun.

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>tfw all my arena mage decks this expansion had at least 2 firelands portals

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>>157214394
but that list still needs those 2 right? I mean every rogue list does, but which one is more essential? I would think thalnos but I dunno

>>157213758
>Not picking Warlock every time it's offered.

Pleb.

>>157214308
Ive just used Deathrattle Rogue recipe with some card swaps and shredder in wild w/o Edwin or Xaril and done fine, I actually climbed to 17 with it desu before I got bored of Wild

I would recommend Thalia I however, much better lego than Cleef

>>157214308
While you need neither really to win, I'd suggest thalnos out of these two. While VanCleef might be slightly better for any tempo rogue, thalnos can be used in a lot of other decks.

>>157214608
Go with Edwin, he's essential in EVERY Rogue deck. You can survive without Thalnos, but it would be cool if you had him as well.

>>157214672
*Thalnos damn mobile

>>157213547
Only insecure faggots use legend card back.

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Are any of top decks actually fun to play?