Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

Chronomancers are made for handholding!

>implying Doppelfags wont get bored of their class since all r8 adds to them is more fucking hits and no class expansion at all lmao
>LOOK AT ME GUYS MORE HITS
>what else can you do?
>shock ;)

Umm why aren't there any potions in Klaipeda?

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/Nice people/ when?

>>157031239
What's the sudden retard trying to do?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/sjo6ldfo2a/

or

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/387qj71zbd/

Wich one is better for more DPS?

>>157031418
>faggotbase
all aids

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>>157031336
Shut your whore mouth.

>>157031239
Doppel don't have multi hits
They hit a single time with every attack but kills FPS and eyes with thousands on numbers when in truth it's just one
Why fake multi hits are a thing?

>>157031239
Hey shut the fuck up and change my gender faggot!

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>>157031495
that is not very nice. its even rude...

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>>157031418
>tosbase

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>>157031621
Deal with it, nerd.

>>157031515

>the doppel fake multihit meme

lol

cyclone alone does 2000 hits

>muh rodel and shit fake multihit

look, anon. those skills are strong on their on, when you add the "fake multihit" they gain a % damage mod. sure, seism is one big hit instead of 3, but it's actually a 170% damage skill, earth wave 200% and doppel 2 skills with the fake multihits are higher than 200% for sure

>this general still shits on swordsmen and wants them to quit the game despite how few still even play

lmao you faggots never learn to shut your whore mouth

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anyone on klaipedo have

eagle feather
harl spear
sauga motor core X2
loxodon ivory

would make my month if youd sell me them, not even discounted. ill pay full price.
still kicking myself for not buying these during founders month

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>>157031982
thanks missinfo

>>157031624
tos neet doesn't have rank 8

>>157032038
is there any reason to own that many crappy hats?

>>157031672
I am not shitting on Doppel skills being strong
I am shitting on the existence on fake multi hits, there is no reason to make skills outputing thousands of numbers when it's just one single hit

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with proper tweaks do you think this druid mind control device could work on sluts?

>>157032874
Why do you even need to alter it?
Sluts are stupid animals

>>157032251
>the developers are retards
>better call this one classes players shit
>I-I was only p-pretending

look no one fucking likes fake multi-hits, they are retarded design to begin with

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>>157032874

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miss ju guis

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>>157032874
>implyning you need mind control devices

what lvl are GBL mobs?

>>157032218
>buy them 25k ea during first month of founders pack beta
>sell them for 200k ea 8 months later

Haven't played since CBT2, has it improved any?

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>>157034027

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>>157034136
I'm guessing that's a no.

Please help, our guild is haunted.

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>>157034183
Well you can be in an official guild now and do arena and GvG for TP.

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>>157033918
>thinks there's going to be people playing after 8 months

>>157034362
>has no idea what hes talking about
8 months ago is NOW buddy boy, i bought these crappy hats 8 months ago. already sold over 20 of them

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God, majority of people that try to talk to me on this game are so boring. They just....only talk about the game and it is mostly gloating about how much damage they can do.

>>157034628
You haven't talked to me yet. I'd make you want to be my friend.

>druid awoo is weak, don't do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjfANdlkEHk

ok

>>157034687
Are you from Orsha? I may not be in the mood to talk sometimes but I do enjoy chatter every now and then.

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>>157034628
I talk more about cooking to my guild than the game
Shame that I think it's more of a bother than anyone enjoying it

>>157032251

this is just aesthetics

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There is so much cancer in this place

Solo Fencer C3 killing a world boss lvl 200 and getting a cube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cZtZrIBrI0

>>157035251
>that many people
nothing noteworthy here.

>>157035251
The point of this video is?
Ellaganos is a lv 200 boss
You can solo already it easy with lots of class and get cubes without party
In the video there is nothing solo
Are you by chance a guy who still believe if you don't do WB without Fletcher+chrono+meme DEX Linker= no chance of cubes?

>>157035226
t. threejane
fuck off already and go join some reddit clan

>>157035251
Kinda surprising they aren't using the wb addon.

>>157035528
calm down nerd, did the debuff make you so anally devastated you're still crying about it? get over it lmao

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"Beneath this Templar there is more than talt. Beneath this Templar there is an pizza, Mr. Kim, and pizzas are futureproof."

>>157035530
Never met this threehane guy you are mentioning

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>>157035619

>>157034782
Literally no one has said druid3 is weak

revive the general!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaIZvv17-QI

R8 this week!

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>>157037330

would the stats on my nesting egg be deleted if i use it in the nesting chick recipe?
is very important

>>157035251

>50k each stabbing on the best possible scenario (leather, dark, spear lunge)

kek, doppel is the king, they do this damage with skyliner and a +10 venier twin blade only

if we consider 315 weapons (that fencer has none, kek)

>>157038175
a doppel would also die from getting its balls kicked in as well though

>>157038285

not on a geared wb hunting group

>>157037937
please help, got a nesting egg with good stats but its ugly af
if i craft it into a nesting chick would the stats reset?

is going 50 con full dex good for SR? or can i go no con?

Are the 330 Demon Lords shit as the actual Demon Lords loot wise?
Absurd high chance of talt and not even that worth over blue, white,170 recipes or just gimmick stuff like power staff/cripple or they have something good like Ellaganos for Sissel or Canceril for Memerunners?

>>157039034
If you have enough money for full top gears, going CON on almost any build is pointless.

>>157039142
>high chance of talt
yes

>gimmick stuff
-72 con 1k base 500 dark prop 2h sword

>>157038175
Any list anywhere that shows 330 weapons? 2H that is. I'm interested in seeing them. All the 280, R7 2H weapons were a fucking joke.

>>157039172
Full top gears matters only for PvP minigames and there you need CON anyways
For PvE you can do WBs and ET with half the gear upgrades you need to compete in PvP

>>157039474
Don't know what PvP you were doing mate, but CON doesn't help there much, unless you're a swordie.

>>157039776
???

Literally all cleric builds are full CON in pvp.

HOLY SHITT
HOLY SSHIT
HOLYYYYYYYYYY SHIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=677
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=677
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=677
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=677

>>157031515
>Doppel don't have multi hits
Every slash skill Doppel has but Zornhau is a multihit

I don't get why you people get so anally deviated about fake multi hits, in this case it's valid since it's an attribute to make those skills stronger

>>157039895
IT'S HAPPENING


KIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMCCCCCCCCCCCC

>>157039895
HAPPENING

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=677

GUYS
GUYS
GUYS

KIM SAVED US

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>Only 16 millions silvers ready for tomorrow
KILL ME

>>157039895
HAPPENING

aAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>157031007
Where can I find the new costumes?

>>157039895
>No class resets

Thank fuck.

>- Dropped items will now glow with a pillar of light when they are ready to be picked up for better visibility (inspired by addon creator Mie's addon).
New leaf guys?

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Ok it's my birthday today and all
But i am not ready for rank 8 tomorrow

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Who else /stockedup/ here?

A pity the xp stacking changes didn't push through yet, but this is still sooner than expected.

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>wasted all my money buying attributes
>now I can't buy the r8 attributes I wanted
Being poor is suffering.

>>157040398
jokes on you, the r8 weapons were changed last week to no longer require any of the crystal mine ore's

>>157040504
Of course they'll do something like that.
Surely I'll find a use for them right?

>>157040453
Jokes on you, my R8 are pure trash and I don't need to save any money for them hahaha ;_;

>>157040393
Happy bday Capy!

I really hope Alleli to draw more lewds of you.

>>157040393
happy birthday capy from a certain lurker too :3

>>157037387

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?

>Asurine buffed
>Bloodletting buffed
>Restrain buffed
>Rush buffed

We know what classes the balance guy plays.

>>157040393
Go fuck yourself you piece of shit
Just kidding, happy birthday, my favourite rodent

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>>157040398
maybe I shouldnt have made those rhevisan stuff

>didel tower shield has two (2) gem slots

lmao, so much critical rate you can get from it, too bad my class has a 15% extra damage attribute if I don't wear a shield

>>157041012
Stay mad sword cuck

>>157040398
If i put together all my minerals between two characters i reach almost 30 ores of everything but Portium around 20

>there are people that will go kabba2 and oracle3 tomorrow

ayyy

>>157040504
What do they use now?

>>157041174
Whats the problem with Kabba2?

I like and I'm going for it.

So no miko?

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>>157041012
Cata train has no breaks guys feels good

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>Rank 8 patch Oct 10-11
>tfw it's our Final Exams week and next week is the deadline for our projects
>it would be last week of October before I can play again
>tfw engineering

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Wonderful news! Do you guys know what cards cannot be traded? Or are all cards for the most part allowed to be traded now.

>>157041537
same shit, mate. Just not on a dead-end career that's being injected with way too many fresh meat, thinking they'll become rich the moment they get their degree.

>look up all the new 315 weapons
>nothing replaces mana-mana

why tho

>tfw grinding will be in high demand tomorrow
>tfw only like 2 channels to grind in

>still no paladin +2 skill level mace

what did worst korea kim mean by this?

"If the Doppelsoeldner is like a raging blender, the Fencer is more akin to an unstoppable sowing machine."

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=541&vp=4

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Can someone tell me what it would be like if I came back after leaving since June? Many of my characters are stuck in 250 range and a few I'd want to reroll due to meta changes.

This means that when I played the quests stopped at Maven and I hear a lot of new ones were added. My point being how far do these new cards take you?

Also I'd have 0 boss cards. 0 ET gear. 0 Saalus transcendence stuff. 0 silver (apart a few million).

I had about 6 or 7 tokens in my character so I am not worried about Token time. What I'm worried about is coming back and instantly realizing I'm stuck at some level range with no grind groups.

Is there an updated leveling map and how far can you go now until you get to 280 (or soon to be 330)?

If I came back and rerolled, how hard would it be to start from level 1, provided I know most if not all quests up until Maven Abbey by hand. I want to reroll as a Doppel with 3 Barbarian levels. The cookie cutter.

How hard is it to get yourself new shit like the Mole Glass cards? Can they drop in mercenery missions or can I trade people for them?

>Rank 8 added just days after I get ready for rank 8
>Got 230 cards saved up

GOOD BOY KIM!

>>157041864
This is what you get for "quitting till R8" instead of preparing for it.

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Who else /notreadyandnotthatgreatprepared/?

>>157042110

I'm ready but not prepared. No money, no items for good gear, just barely class level 15 at rank 7.

Doesn't matter, I'm off Enchanter then abandoning the character to make a new one.

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>>157041901
I still have several kill counts and mappings to do on the lvl10 and lvl11 cards areas!

Too sad my class is shit on R8 and I'm not hyped at all.

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>>157042110
Guilty, I still need to do the last batch of added quests, I put them off and worked on alts instead.

IMC ARE FUCKING WITH US

>32 NEW QUESTS ADDED
>New quests have been added to the following maps: Zima Suecourt, Alembique Cave and Mishekan Forest.

Literally only added quests from levels 274 to 282.

Enjoy grinding from 282 to 330.

>>157042109
Thanks for the advice.

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>>157042293

>>157042110

How dead is Fedimian today?

>>157042293
I have got all the 230-274 quests saved up. I'm good to go.

>That feel when shit build
>Can't even do level 265 quests without struggling like mad
>Wont be able to do rank 8 content

Who wants to let me leech? I'll feed you dumplings.

got a nesting egg with good stats but its ugly af
if i craft it into a nesting chick would the stats reset?

>>157042704
Pretty sure it'll lose the stats.

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>>157042110
I have so many exp cards the calculator is bugged out!

>>157042704

It'll lose the stats since it counts as a new item.

Only thing you can do is equip it but hide it if you think it looks that ugly.

>>157042704
You can turn the egg into a chicken? Since all it does is consume the material item to make a new item I don't see how it can keep the stats.

>>157042592
Everyone struggles with the high level quests alone. Even with good builds its so much more efficient to do it as a group. But I really don't see any /tosg/ guild doing any of that outside their circle-jerking cliques.

>>157042293
Card up to 290 and do the dungeon for exp.

Do you lose ALL your cards whe you rip in 4 star maps?

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>>157042938
>do the dungeon for exp
>the dungeon for exp
>dungeon for exp
>dungeon exp

>>157039895
The following items can now be lost in new maps with 4 or more stars ():
>Boss Monster Cards
Does this include equipped ones?

>>157042938

all did all the quests alone as a swordsman, lol. only had to use barrier scrolls in that one maven quest

>>157043008

Pretty sure it's all the ones you are holding but not using. Same as how you'll lose all your gems for dying in a dungeon.

>>157043194
Yeah but
yeah but

will they fall out of the necronomicon or sorc's card book?

>>157043313

Probably not since they don't count as being in your inventory.

How fast do you think the new skill meta will come?

>>157043194
That's hilarious. I won't have enough storage space even if I made mule alts.

>>157043356
you fucking idiot, it's already made in stone in ktos

the try hard already have their shit together

>>157043354
in what what way? I've never been aware of any sort of checks that would prevent you feeding book equipped cards to other cards or upgrading them or putting them in storage or anything.

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>Zalciai: This skill will no longer reduce the critical resistance of enemies down to negative values.

...

Really now.

>>157043356

Already there in Korea.

Wizard is shit.
Kabbalist is still king of Clerics.
Schwarz Reiter is best Hunter class.
Doppleganger is king of DPS.

>>157043464
>Doppleganger is king of DPS.

As it should be. Eat shit wiz cucks

fucking cross dressing dress wearing backstage homos shooting ur magic missles

>>157043531

Until rank 9 is added and every class gets 99999999999999 base damage dealing abilities except swordsmen classes who only get a vendor and crafter class.

>Guild info window UI has been improved, with the inclusion of the One Line Message Board.
Shitposting intensifies

Can't we just delay R8 for 2 months and get minimal chat fixed?
I prefer that than multibugged R8, I can't stand that fucking bubble chat anymore. ;_;

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>>157043578


>rank 9
>implying the game is alive till then

>>157043715
You said the same about r8, stupid cat.

>>157043440
I wonder if it's worth buying the scrolls anymore.

>>157043925
when did this game release? April? It's October now. It's been 5 to 6 months since """release""" and they were caved to give us new ranks and classes.

If this follows suit the next patch you faggots will see will be in 5 to 6 months from now.

With 2000 players online.

Do you really fucking think 32 quests is going to get anyone to level 330? No, they want us to grind again. You'll be lucky if you started grinding since Alameth when the game wasn't as fucking dead as it was now and saved up cards while grinding forever and ever.

Who cares though? You use cards and jump to a crazy level and so what? You still only get 32 quests like the rest of us and then you're sitting there, alone, waiting for other people to catch up to your stupid ass.

Save cards or not it makes fuck all real difference anyway.

>>157044184
I'd rather have some good-oldfashioned corean grind MMO than yet another solo-quest to level cap WoW clone.

>>157044716
me too

just not this one

>>157044728

You can't bully me! I'm the best bully!

I'll give you a chinese burn!

Is elememe still good for pve?

>Maint starts at 11 pm EST

Earlier meme up i guess.
>implying anyone will be able to go when everyone is rushing for rank 8

>>157044886
Yes.

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>>157044728

>>157044886
Yes and no
No because their DPS can't just compete with Swordman and SR3 have better AoE
Yes because IMC gave us the middle finger and we have on rank8 release a lot less quests than qhat kToS got so we are need to grind a lot and nothing beats Elememe for AoE grinding
So yes, Elememes are needed for levelling but once we hit 330 they can be trashed

>>157045172
>So yes, Elememes are needed for levelling

t. misinfo or theoryshitter
maybe both

>>157045232
just wait, he's gonna say that doppels can't do aoe at all

just wait

>>157045172
>SR3 have better AoE
>Nothing beats Elememe for AoE grinding

????

Also not Doppelmadara?

>>157045232

Look at the patch notes anon. IMC is only adding 32 new quests to 3 areas. That'll be 45 new cards (plus whatever for exploration and kill counts).

Not saying he's correct about how good elememes are. But you will have to grind if you want to get to 330 because IMC just didn't add all the quests Korea has.

>>157045350
45 level 12 cards sounds good

>>157045436
Yeah have fun at 292 unless you saved all your lvl 11 cards and all the cards before them

>>157045436

It's 108 million exp or so.

Wont even get you from 280 to 300.

>>157045350
>>157045471

Why are you people like this? is this r8 patch the last patch that will ever be released? whos to fucking say theyll add more quests next week? and I dont think you get the point of this patch at all, this is not about reaching 330 the fastest its about having more things to do than just dailies, i dont fucking care if I get stuck to 292, I can fuckign reroll in a whim and would be more motivated to reach rank 8 to see how the skills mesh well together

I fucking bet youre the kind to rush cap level the fastest then whine that theres nothing left to do

>>157045172
>your average elememe
>killing anything in r8
Lmaoo

Did we confirm that the EXP reset is at 286?

>>157045523

Because it took Koreans like 2-3 days to hit 330. There isn't much content from 280 to 330. And we're getting drip fed it.

>>157045590

It's at 281.

>>157045108
When will pedopanther make an actual pvp character?

> You will now be able to repurchase items sold to NPC shops. To repurchase a sold item, right-click it, then click 'Re-buy'.

>>157045603
>Because it took Koreans like 2-3 days to hit 330

Who the fuck cares about fucking koreans? Why do you have to fucking beat them anon? I swear to god you min-maxing faggots are cancer, again the content is about r8, people want to experience r8, not go to 330 the fastest, and its only recently that they added quests from 230-262, before we had to grind from 230-280 so I dont see the problem here at all, if you want to reach 330 the fastest then go ahead and grind, all of us other anons will instead reach r8 with our alts and experiment until new quests comes in.

jesus fuck why in the fuckign world would you want to reach level cap in 3 days? this fucking screams neet all over it

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I heard that R8 is coming out tomorrow.

Should I?

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WHEN WILL THEY GIVE US ALL THE TP THEY OWE US?

>>157045787

You're literally missing the point.

There is no content from 280 to 330. It's so devoid of content it takes people a few days to do it. We're not even getting all of that content. We're getting a tiny fraction of it, and being slowly given the rest of it over coming months.

I'm not bitching about not being able to hit max level. I'm bitching about THERE BEING NOTHING TO DO DUE TO LACK OF NEW CONTENT. ENJOY DOING THOSE DAILIES ONCE YOU HIT 290, WHICH WONT EVEN TAKE AN HOUR.

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>>157045787
>You fucking minmax faggots
>How fare you to expect players to grind
>In a grindy korean MMO
>We'll just be making more alts and achieving nothing in the meantime

Dont fret, 290 dungeon gives decent exp like 190

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>>157045872
I ave 0 hope to see the TP that we didn't get, I doubt they even keep track of the rankings that got erased because of it.

>>157045897
>>157045936
>argues that there is nothing to do at 290-330
>gets triggered when people say that they will instead roll alts to r8 when IT is the only thing to do until new quests

>>157044184
Not sure you can call the time when the game was completely barred to new players because it was literally too broken "release".

>>157046145

The fuck are you even trying to say now? Are you on drugs?

Consider properly stating your point the next time you post. We're not psychics and cannot read your mind.

>>157044728
I like you lolipan. You might be shit player and leader, but I like you.

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>>157046145
If farming the new items and grinding another 50 levels is nothing, then I can only wonder what "content" means for you?

Do you need some more instance "features" such as Saalus, Uphill, and Dungeons to become a slave off? Having to some some 10+ instance runs everyday on multiple characters not enough for you?

Swaaz, if dumplings are extended by tent, does it work for EXP Tomes too?

>>157040393
Happy birthday boss!

>can't even get to rank 8 with cards

Why

Where the fuck is Miko?

>>157046423

We're still going to be months behind Korea. We are only getting rank 8 in the same state Korea got it (except we're getting no quests), which means no Miko.

We might get Miko sometime beginning of next year.

>>157046310
They don't.
t. another squire3.

>>157046509
>main doesn't benefit from R8 classes
>Just taking pardoner for m.def buff and increased debuff time
>no miko for alt
>can't progress the alt

Yeah... good thing I wasn't ready for update, more time to dick around still.

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So since Alchemist C3 is a waste, what if I went Enchanter instead. I hear the shop isn't half bad and you can make scrolls out of your earlier circle skills.

I took a circle in Linker and Thauma, so I could scroll out Joint Penalty scrolls and Swell Arm. Who wouldn't want 250 phys/mag attack on their alt when leveling?

I have 2 alchemist circles, but since the fucking Homonculi only can use skills that YOU know it literally doesn't matter. You guys hyped these shitty things that die in 12 days to no end, but all they do is spam 1 or two shitty skills. And I took 2 circles in fucking pyro. I'm full int build, but who the fuck would want to buy Fire Pillar Homonculi even if Fire Pillar completely disables monsters for a long time?

Tbh I have no idea how homonculi work or r8 alchemist/enchanter, pls help

>>157047392
>Alchemist C3 is a waste
>level 15 potions
That's the only reason why you go alchemist

>>157047608
potions don't make any silver though, we all know that

>>157047631
Retard. You make potions for yourself, which saves you tons of moneys.

>>157047392

Enchanter is probably the worst new class being added.

It's basically a class for people who fucked their build up so badly they can't take anything else so they've got to resort to being a vendor while they reroll as something more useful.

Judging by your build, you can probably go Alchemist 3. You have a level in Linker and Thaumaturge, so your homunculuses can use Joint Penalty which is the only reason anyone wants a homunculus anyway.

Going Enchanter will let you make a few scrolls. Joint Penalty will be the only useful one you can make (cannot turn swell arm into a scroll and scrolls don't get bonuses from attributes anyway).

If I were you, I'd avoid Enchanter and hope you can get rich by selling level 15 potions and homunculus while you reroll. Enchanter offers nothing to no one in it's current state except a few more scrolls to sell.

>>157047631
I didn't go alch to make silver, I did so I don't have to buy potions from jews.

>>157047631
So won't scrolls.
Retards will keep undercutting each other like they did for potions.

>>157047689
Linker C1 though. Doubt anyone would buy that.

>>157047732

Enchanter scrolls are really expensive to make. If you count cost of making them + market fees, selling them for less than 20k will actually cause you to lose money (that is with a token active).

And given how much of a pain it is to get to rank 8, there is going to be a lot less Enchanters. Eventually the price of scrolls will go to shit, but in the first week or so, someone with Joint Penalty scrolls could make a killing and become very rich.

Outside of Joint Penalty scrolls, there is no real reason to become an Enchanter though.

>>157047824
The question is: who will be so retarded to buy JP scrolls?

>>157047824
Do you really think many people will buy such expensive scrolls?

>>157047815

Maybe not in the future. But once this shit is new you'll be able to sell them anyway. People wont care when the supply is so small.

>>157047874
>>157047887

Joint Penalty is fucking broken strong. It's expensive as fuck to buy scrolls to use it, but a lot of classes but a lot of classes will go from being amazing to being absolutely fucking godlike with it.
Rich people will buy the scrolls.

>>157047945
There's not content that require the use of such expensive scrolls.
I really doubt many people will buy them.

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>Sadhu
>Vashita Siddhi SP per second from 3% to 2%

these fucking devs

>- Guild events can now be properly cleared even without the guild master.

>>157047945

A homonculus can have 4 skills from the wizard. My homonculus would have:

>Fire Pillar (AoE stunlock)
>Join Penalty (C1 though)
>Swell Body (2x Drop / EXP, good for farming mats)
>Enchant Fire

Would you buy my Homonculus over that of a Linker C3 that just had Enchant Fire, Sleep and Joint Penalty from C3?

Both last 12 days and cost the same to make.

>>157047945
Joint Penatly is strong when used by a Linker not when used through a shitty scroll so at best you would have a shitty Joint Penalty lv5 and without attributes

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>>157048185
>Joint Penatly is strong when used by a Linker not when used through a shitty scroll
What are you smoking?

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>>157048154
>tfw Wiz1Cryo1Linkk2Sorc1Alchemist
Would you buy my loli fairy senpai ?
I work hard for her

>>157048185
Doesn't the alchemist homonculus get the attributes to them? It can cast Joint Penalty for you for days.

>>157048359
>link2
>freeze cc
You'll be fine.

>>157048185

Joint Penalty has no good attributes... And it's scaling past level 5 drops off.

It is literally the perfect skill to make into a scroll.

>>157048154

Swell Body is bad at higher levels. Mobs at level 290+ tend to have 150k to 500k hp. Doubling that much Hp makes them impossible to kill.
Likewise, Enchant Fire is bad because even an extra damage line is useless against mobs with that much health.

>>157048018

Level 290+ content is hard as balls. I can see a lot of people wanting scrolls to make it easier.

>>157048359
>Homunculus Skills
>Wizard
Sleep
Lethargy
Magic Missle

>Pyromancer
Fireball
Enchant Fire
Fire Pillar

>Cryomancer
Ice Bolt
Ice Wall
Ice Pike
Subzero Shield
Gust

>Linker
Joint Penalty
Physical Link

>Psychokino
Swap
Teleportation
Raise
Magnetic Force

>Elementalist
Stone Curse
Rain

>Chronomancer
Quicken
Slow
Stop

>Thaumaturge
Shrink Body
Swell Body

That's it. Only C3 linkers (literally a slave character, you won't level at all solo being LInker C3 / Cryo C1 / Alchemist C3) will make homonculus that sell. Who wouldn't want a Joint Penalty level 15 spamming loli spirit following them around?

Rest of the skills are pretty shit as you can see. Raise is nice perhaps for some lonely archers and the Cryo CC for some lonely swordies. Rest is garbage no one wants.

>>157048569
>Lethargy
Will it maintain the homunculus' creator attributes? That would be great for a good deal of builds

>>157048569

Shrink Body with the attributes can be pretty useful in PVE.

75% reduction to damage is great at levels where a mage mob can 1-2 shot most people.

>>157048678
>Will it maintain the homunculus' creator attributes?
Most likely not.

>>157048704

Apparently they do.

>>157048793
Oh, that would make having a circle in thaum way better then.

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>Wake up
>Rank 8 coming tomorrow
>Have my Archer and Alch ready

>>157048894
No, it means being Linker C3 is vastly superior.

FUCK WHAT DO I PICK FOR R8? HAKKA OR MERGEN?

>>157048959
both 280 with 246 million silver for attributes and with all cards saved since level 210?

>>157049138

Schwarz Reiter 3 of go reroll.

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>No relevant buffs
>No relevant nerfs

Welp.

I'll just go Kabba 2 and be stale.

>>157049006
>Physical Link
Lightning damage is pretty much taoist only, don't think anything outside Earth Wave and Earthquake do Earth damage and pretty much only wugushi benefits from Poison, so I don't get how atts benefit Linker much more than thau

>>157048510
>Swell Body is bad at higher levels.
Can't you just use it when the monster has low health? You don't have to only farm higher level mobs, assuming the lower level ones give great rewards (battle bracelet, for instance)

>>157049206
Ah yes, we can only play one class on the archer tree, the Korean overlords have told us to do so

So the new meta in order is

Doppel>Dragoon>Fencer

and

Doppel=Fencer>Dragoon once Fencer gets a new rapier?

>>157031007
>GUYSSSS RANK 8 IS HERE OMG
>THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER NOW LOL
>...
>w-what do you mean, restrictions that doesnt do shit against bots!SURE THING IT DOES
>NOOO THE GAME IS WELL OPTIMIZED AND IT RUNS SILK SMOOTH IN MY PENTIUM 4 PC LOL
>NOOO SHUT UP
>SHUUUUTTT UPPPPPP ITS NOT SHIT
>SHUT UPPPPP

>>157049378
>Swell body bad
Exactly. You only use it to farm materials at lower levels. Swell body is excellent for that. It's amazing because it's like having 2x drop rate.

The whole thing is though how smart are homonculus pets. My guess is they are retarded and will randomly cast these skills so most likely even if a linker C3 makes a homonculus it will cast the fucking links when there's 2 mobs on the screen and never when there's 8. We just don't know. There's no videos on them online.

>>157049690
No one cares. Doppels die to a single touch anyway because they walk around with 0 armor.

>>157049734
autism

>>157049749
>No one cares. Doppels die to a single touch anyway because they walk around with 0 armor.

I have never seen a doppel die in a single touch lmao, show me a video of it anon, really, show me.

also

>all doppels are full str

>>157049749
>Doppels die to a single touch anyway because they walk around with 0 armor
I see you have never played the class.

>>157049749
>No one cares. Doppels die to a single touch anyway because they walk around with 0 armor.

They take what, 500 more damage on a 30k hp class? lmao

>pelt is not meta for swordsman anymore
w-what
why
what happened with the "muh 25% more hp" meta

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>>157049263
Just wondering /tosg/, max level of Merkabah is 5, but can you get LV6 with Divine Might?

Else I'll just leave it at 4.

Also should I bother with number skills? I'm fine with +110% HP Ein Sof, Merkabah and RSF, but maybe there is something that I am not seeing? IIRC you don't even get drops when you kill duplicated monsters.

Please respond

>>157046423
It's a hidden class. Even if we got it, it wouldn't be in the patch notes.

>>157049901
That is not how def works, at zero def you're getting hit by at least 1000 if 500 patk was what made that monster's attack become 1

>>157050025
lol

>>157049904
Pelt isn't meta for Doppel, any fag who had it in their builds should ask themselves why they have a shield class in a Zweihänder build in the first place

>>157049690
>Doppel > anything
LUL

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How do you even build a Doppel C3?

The new attributes to Redel, Zornhau and Zucken need you to level the skills to 6 which means if you max out Deeds you can't max out Cyclone anymore nor even have points for the new skills.

Someone post a good Doppel build. I feel like the fucking new attributes are great but fuck me, seriously, need the skills to be level 6? Also when it comes to Barbarian skills I am inclined to put 1's into Giant Swing, Stomp and the Pierce attack for variety.

How the fuck do you even allocate points? There isn't enough. How good / bad are the new Doppel abilities anyway? I hear the one that gives a debuff is a must but the other 2?

>>157050126
It was an old meta. Don't think you understand. No one in the past took one circle of Barbarian, there was no point.

>>157050149
>The new attributes to Redel, Zornhau and Zucken need you to level the skills to 6 which means if you max out Deeds you can't max out Cyclone anymore nor even have points for the new skills.

Get both to 6, skill reset, max cyclone and Dov.

thats literally what everyone will do

>Also when it comes to Barbarian skills I am inclined to put 1's into Giant Swing, Stomp and the Pierce attack for variety.

Those are shit skills I guarantee you.

>How good / bad are the new Doppel abilities anyway?

Max Cyclone 15 can crit 80k per tic if youre well funded

>>157048569
Homunculi are loli?
Tell me more.

>>157050240
>skill reset
This works? Are you fucking with me?

>>157050321
Cash shop advantage, son.

>>157049171
>All attributes are useful and worth getting 100 levels on it

I love this meme

>>157050295
They are little flying kupoles

>>157050226
>Don't think you understand.
I do, because I had a doppel back then. Still didn't put pelt on my two handed sword build, like you min maxed autistas did.

I had to reroll anyway

>good goys have 5% movement speed over freeloaders
k, im uninstalling

So what do Alchemists need in order to make homunculus?

>>157050401
>any attribute
>worth getting 100 levels on

>>157049749
>Doppels die to a single touch anyway because they walk around with 0 armor.
Good thing clerics have a gorillion skills that make you immortal.

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>>157050449
bye

>>157050371
Sounds like a glitch that will be fixed soon. Soon lol

I guess that means you can get level 3 on wagon wheel, buy the attribute and later in the line leave it at level 1. Same with Gung-Ho.

I guess this is why archers are so OP and can have all the skills they want with all the attributes they want.

>>157050401
>100% more damage in a certain skill/spell
>bad

>played doppel since EA
>had fun
>"oh shit barb buffs"
>rerolled
>everyone still thought doppel was trash
>r8 released in korea
>"lol dragoon and Fencer are much better"
>suddenly, people start to think Doppel actually has great dps
>everyone has a doppel now

I don't get it, not much has changed considering Cyclone is the only skill people here talk about and it remained unchanged

>>157050847
>implying you actually get 1% damage per invested level
>what are exponential costd

>>157051080
>I don't get it, not much has changed considering Cyclone is the only skill people here talk about and it remained unchanged

>Cyclone 15
>Dov 15
>100% slash damage with 2 debuffs
>item transcendence
>2h sword with 800-1000 base damage
>people are rerolling dex now

>>157050817
>will be fixed soon

It ltierally cant be fixed as fixing it would mean you would have to fix attributes % roll backs too, this means that if you use skill resets, your purchased level 90 attributes will go back to 0, and if it means that using that skill reset youd lose 20-70m invested silver, then nobody would buy your stupid skill reset potions

>>157051080
I like Dragoon weebness more and i prefer spears over swords in general so i have a Dragoon slut for my Doppel overlords while i can still be a great DPS
But still i will be more usefull as that bitch who have to keep serpentine up and burst down on CD

>>157051175
>being poor
LOL

>>157051341
>It ltierally cant be fixed
Don't be a retard now.
You can only buy those attributes at the needed skill level, which means there is a restriction already.
They'd just need to put it on activating said attributes too and done.
Of course they won't bother though.

>>157051190
>800 base damage

Fuck off retard. The new 315 weapon has 400 to 900 damage.

Imaging upgrading and repairing that beast on a daily basis? You'll spend the next 6 months getting that amount of silver.

>>157051080
Someone posted a single video of doppels being good and everyone fell for it.
Goes to show the sheepish personality of /tosg/.

>>157051549

They have the potential to be really fucking good if you invest a shit load of money into them.

>>157051595
>just get the weapon to +15
>and attributes to 100%
Wow, so do Fencers and Dragoons.

>>157051653

But not as good as dopplegonker.

>>157051653
Dragoons cant literally compete with a Doppel in the same room

>>157051720
>>157051742
Keep believing that. Don't forget to vote for Clinton too!

>>157051190
If people are memeing about 80k Cyclone crit ticks being a lot, I don't think it'd be entirely impossible to deal half that damage with the equipment available at r7 assuming the person is well funded.

Your post still doesn't answer how the "ktos meta followers" here thought doppel was shit, but now everyone seems to think it's the best class in the game

>unironically playing as doppelnigger because of "muh 80k crits"
>what is crit res
Enjoy dealing 0 crits to a "real" swordsman in a 1v1, nerds.
>tosg in charge of theorycrafting

>>157051771
Serpentine buff also buffs Cyclone anon

>>157048569
Can Homonculi be used in PvP? GvG with 15 Magnetic force Homonculi on both sides sounds like a hilarious clusterfuck.

>>157051859
You tell them Swaaz!
>inb4 b-b-b-b-but PvP is a meme
>only my boring 8 hour world bosses and unbalanced meme tower are "true" endgame

>a Doppel, a Dragoon, a Fencer walks into a WB
>neither did the fencer nor did the dragoon knew that they were giving the Doppel 150% increased damage wth short cooldown thanks to Serpentine and Lunge

THANKS LADS

>>157051859
>minigames

>>157051878
>wait until Doppelnigger pops his Cyclones
>use Serpentine
>recast it freely until Cyclone CD is up
>repeat until boss dies
>get #1 while the Doppel rages at you
Whoops, teehee.

>>157051918
>Hah fucking nerds fighting end game monsters for gear
>The real endgame is pvp with -100 levels and dodge the exploiters GvG

>>157052025
>he thinks Dethrone outdamages Redel+Zucken

>>157052025
>see a dragoon
>wait for him to cast serpentine
>cast cyclone

This is why you guys arent number 1, cuz you dumb

>>157052103
>he thinks Dragoon only has Dragoon skills for damage
Bravo, theorycrafter-san.

>>157052114
Show me a video where that happens.
Protip: You can't.

>people constantly arguing what's best DPS
>people constantly re-rolling their DD chars
>play only supports
>0 fucks given about nerfs and boosts towards DD
>never have to worry about rerolling
>never have to worry about being useless with a full-invested char
>when bored just roll another support build
>DDs still pretend they matter when there's a dozen a talt of them everywhere.
>fucking PD/Druid/Krivis still outDPS'es "muh DD" on world bosses and is always more useful and welcome to the group than any DD
>archers and swordies at each other throats
>In reality clerics and wizards carry their asses and keep them alive throughout entire game

ZWEIHANDER LADS, ZERIHANDER IS GUD.

>>157052025
>doesnt cast serpentine
>Doppel is still doing better damage thanks to 250% increased damage

>>157052241
Fucking this. Can't wait for those swordcucks with their 600% threat generation to still lose aggro on every single boss and then cry on forums about hackers.

>doppelnigger casts cyclone
>shit damage because 0 crits
>doppelnigger gets mad because spoiler related
>I kill him with my low yet constant/persistent damage
>doppelnigger gets even more mad because "muh crits"
LOLOLOLOLO

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Can you guys stop fighting please?

>>157052241
>dissing support characters in Tree of Clerics
It'd take a special kind of retard to do that

>>157052025
>he thinks we need his serpentine to do damage

as soon as I see a serpentine debuff I do Cleave and the new Doppel skill that gives 50% more slash plus even if cyclone is on CD there's Pounce, Redel, Zucken, Zornhau (which is a multihit now) which are all slash skills

doesn't matter when you use it, I can always capitalize on it

>>157052401
or better yet
>doppelnigger casts cyclone
>activate block
>blockblockblockblockblockblock
HAHAHAHAH
jesus what a bunch of shitters

>>157052401
Oh, don't forget.
>he went full DEX
>BLOCK
>BLOCK
>1
Feels good being full CON with 1k pdef.

@157052435
Fuck outta here, attentionwhore.

>>157052481
>claims he doesn't need serpentine
>goes on a tirade about how he loves serpentine
HAAHAHAHA

>>157052435
show butt

>>157052435
No, I've said countless times how much I despise every single one of you faggots who post in this thread, you're a bunch of cancer meta followers elitist that should go the fuck back to /a/, /jp/ or whatever shithole you came from.

Except for you, you're fine.

>>157052401

It's pretty much meta now to go full dex on doppel because transcending + very high damage weapons from the new 315 combined with upgrades are all you need, not to mention Warcry and Frenzy are there. Investing in STR is not the current meta, it's DEX for survavability and criticals.

Cleave, 50% slash and free crit rating
DoV, 150% damage
Zern, 50% slash
Mole, 80% physical

No matter how you slice it kek a Doppel will always come on top against any wizard or archer or dragoon, not to mention Serpentine just buffs us further.

>>157052709
>this hardcore theorycrafting
>he unironically believes it
Keep going, I'm having a great time.
But I'll have an even better time tomorrow, after you see the truth for yourself. Make sure to hide all the dangerous tools like knives, to not harm yourself.

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>>157052814

>R8 is being released tomorrow
>my highest character lvl is 251 which is a pain to level up because Sadhu C2
>next higher is lvl 200 Fencer

I-I'll get there eventually anons!

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>>157052574
Fine

>Fencers
>Dragoons

Lol
two of the three new worldbosses are slash weak (cloth)

Doppel automatically wins on those

>>157052841
Well then mr theorycrafter, are you able to point out what's wrong with that item?

Whatever, you nerds won't be able to do shit against my Templar.

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>>157052895

>>157053001
Oh sorry, you're an ESL it seems. Carry on.

>>157052814
>>157052895
>>157053038
I'm fucking loving your bitch tears, carry on anon lmao

>>157052709
>DEX for survavability and criticals.
>DEX
>criticals
HAHAHAHA OH MY FUCKING GOD
J U S T
have fun rerolling LOL

>>157053092
As I see, you're unable to form a cohesive argument.
Are you ready to admit you've lost yet?

>>157052861
Keep your hands off Fencers! They're only arguing about doppel vs dragoon.

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>>157051453
>I waste millions to get a 0.5% damage increase from 99 to 100% on a single skill

>>157053216
And you did? I love how you did nothing but shitpost.
Carry on crying.

>>157052841
wait would that actually make you degen hp?

>>157053306

What else is there to use it on?

Can't buy the best gear in the game, money has no real use outside of attributes and upgrading gear.

Or are you just a jew who enjoys sitting on 99999 million silver but never uses it?

>>157053337
Proving theorycrafters wrong is now "shitposting"?
Has it ever crossed your mind that you might be detrimental to quality of /tosg/? Not on the level of attentionwhores, of course, as you still sparkle a discussion, but a discussion requires you to actually respond in a reasonable manner.

>>157053515
>Proving
Where are the proofs, though?

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>That feel when you don't get bullied today because everyone is too busy grinding for rank 8

>>157053515
Proving? You proved nothing. Just nay saying which is the same as shitposting.
Carry on autist. I'm enjoying your self deprecating shit show honestly.

>>157052241
>Swordcucks thinking they have damage
>Just waiting for my 20 hits Zaibas with 60k dmg(chapparition+melstis) each hit + carnivory to melt bosses while swordcucks cry

This will be so fun. Specially for Doppels, fucking cancer userbase, Fencers at least don't try to shit the thread.

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>>157053773
>Zaibas
>damage

even my fencer out damages you with their eyes closed faggot, next you'll be telling me about how amazing lycantrope is

>>157053656
Well, what do you want proven?
As a kToS player, I tried to help my fellow /tosg/ers, but it seems hivemind is too strong. If there is anything you'd like clarified, I'll do my best to clarify it.

>>157053747
You could learn a thing or two from the other guy who responded to me. You're overly offensive, nobody takes you seriously because of that.

>>157053890
I'd like you to stop posting if you haven't experienced R8 first-hand.

>>157053890
>He's never heard of Taoist

>>157053890
>next you'll be telling me about how amazing lycantrope is

for what its worth dex clerics will have a 0cd 200% + 5k(5.6k) base damage skill

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>>157053890
This post shows the intelligence of Doppel user base.

>>157053948
>self proclaims he has won the argument
>without proving anything
>"you have to beg me for information"
>"I'm a superior ktos player"
>provides no images of his rank 8 ktos character
>provides nothing
>calls others theorycrafters

It'd be easy to just call you full of shit but it's so apparent there's no need.

>>157053948
>Well, what do you want proven?
Your argument? I'm lost in all of this shitflinging, but I don't recall seeing one up there.

>>157054165
You appear extremely upset and should get off 4chan before you cause some form of self-damage, but let me ease the anger by clarifying.

As you've started directly attacking me, I had no choice but to put an end to the argument, as to not derail the thread with pointless exchange of insults.
If asking a simple question is a form of begging for you, then remember I'm not forcing you to anything. You're participating in this discussion out of your own volition.
I will not post any screen of my rank 8 kToS character, because I'm not an attention whore, and posting screens with my name cropped out will obviously be met with barrage of "fake, not yours" etc.
And I can not prove something without knowing what you guys want proven in the first place.
On the other hand, you've not taken a single step to dismantle the accusation of being nothing more than a theorycrafter, believing claims of other theorycrafters. If possible, I'd like to break this vicious cycle, but you're making it hard to do so by spreading misinformation.

>>157054434
Which one in particular, my friend?

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Any good lewds yet?

>>157054589
>what do you want proven!
>makes excuses why he cant prove it lmao

All you have to do without showing your char name is time stamp the fucking chat, say 'hello tosg +current time and date'

but no, youre full of shit

>>157054589
>I will not post any screen of my rank 8
>I won the argument

You just can't make this shit up. These are the autists who shit up the thread.

>>157053890
>He doubts the mighty bokorwolf

Away! Away!